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Huh?
/r/MensRights17/02/23 11:00 PM
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Your high school gym class was co-ed?
/r/MensRights16/02/23 01:18 PM
1

It is a study of all teenagers. Read the report.
/r/MensRights14/02/23 12:19 PM
1

I didn’t realize being gay is a choice.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 02:39 PM
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If people had a problem with admitting a high body count, then why do 13% of women and 28% of women self-report a body count of 15 or more?
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:22 PM
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You literally referenced TikTok, Instagram, and dating apps. Did you even read the link? 13% of women self-report a body count of 15 or more. 28% of men self-report a body county of 15 or more. Your anecdotes don’t align with data.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:15 PM
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My issue is with you lying and saying women’s bodies are “ran through” with “a hundred bodies.” Men and women from 2019, who on average slept with 4-6 people in their entire lifetime didnt all suddenly become sluts who want to sleep with anyone and everyone. Also, you appear to not understand how the CDC gets data. You don’t just tell the CDC “I’ve slept with X number of people.” Rather, it’s reported to your doctor who anonymously submits data to government reporting agencies. Honestly, it soun…
/r/MensRights09/02/23 10:09 PM
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The data was collected from 2015-2019. And you have the burden of proof. You’re saying people are having sex with hundreds of people. Prove it.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 09:53 PM
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Between the ages 15-49, women have, on average, 4.3 sexual partners while men have 6.3 sexual partners. Calm down.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 07:42 PM
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Can you explain?
/r/MensRights07/02/23 12:24 PM
0

You posted 11 days ago that you think you got your girlfriend pregnant.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:04 PM
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I mean, I can explain how they do it. I’m not trying to justify any of this, I’m just explaining why child support isn’t a “fine”
/r/MensRights05/02/23 01:30 PM
1

But it’s exactly why the 8th amendment doesn’t apply. The 8th amendment applies to criminal law issues, and child support/contempt issues are civil law issues.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 06:06 AM
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Failing to pay monetary child support is not, by itself, a criminal offense. Some may be prosecuted under a more general “support” statute, but it’s rare and can be applied in many more ways than just monetary child support. (Here’s an example example) It’s rare to send someone to jail for contempt. The court usually just fines people. Another common remedy is to issue a wage garnishment against someone who doesn’t pay child support. All of that being said, they’re not being punished for failing…
/r/MensRights05/02/23 03:55 AM
-4

You can be imprisoned for contempt of court. If you don’t follow court orders, that’s contempt, but it’s still civil.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 03:31 AM
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No. The 8th amendment protects you from actions of the state (criminal law). Child support is between parents (civil), so it’s not covered by the 8th amendment.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 12:12 AM
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You’re off topic. This issue is child support and not abortion. He’s arguing for financial abortion because of child support. Maybe you’re from a place where abortion isn’t restricted. That’s not the case for all women. The best interests of the child doesn’t apply to men or women. It applies exclusively to children. That’s why a noncustodial parent pays child support regardless of whether they’re a man or woman. It’s just that woman tend to be the custodial parent, but I agree it’s problematic …
/r/MensRights01/02/23 05:48 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 05:24 PM
1

I’m pretty sure some states do that. Iowa does random child support audits.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 08:05 PM
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Not always.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 07:51 PM
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The guiding star for decision-making should always be the the best interests of the child.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 07:43 PM
1

Yes, there is. Child support is supposed to be assigned in the best interests of the child. If child support is being inappropriately spent, then bring the other parent to court and hold them in contempt.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 07:26 PM
1

And that’s not in the best interests of the child. Everyone should generally agree with that.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 07:18 PM
1

What about the best interests of the child?
/r/MensRights31/01/23 04:37 PM
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I’m pretty sure the issue is when the parents are separated. Like even if someone is married but going through divorce proceedings they will have to pay temporary child support until the divorce is final.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 04:36 PM
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What does this have to do with men’s right and/or “progress”?
/r/MensRights31/01/23 03:37 PM
1

So you’re specifically adding these women on Snapchat? Of course you’re going to think gyms are basically Hooters if 1. you don’t go to a gym and 2. you specifically surround yourself with the limited number of women who post those kinds of photos. You’re warping your own perception.
/r/MensRights29/01/23 05:14 PM
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You said “makes me afraid to start going.” If you have never been to a gym, why are you saying they look like hooters?
/r/MensRights29/01/23 02:02 PM
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You’re claiming circumcisions cause mass shootings. That’s a provable claim, and it’s your burden to prove it. It’s impossible to prove an infinitive.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 11:36 PM
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So you’re still not gonna tell people what you said?
/r/MensRights27/01/23 11:24 PM
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You’re asking people to prove an infinitive. In the menslib subreddit, it looks like you said 100% of mass shooters are circumcised. Is that what you said? If so, you have the burden of proof.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 11:24 PM
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Thanks for responding! What are the other solutions? I mean, our economic system is predicated on increasing our population. Until we change our economic structures then we have to create incentives for people to become parents and to have more children.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 05:25 PM
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I disagree. We have to incentivize people to have children. Plus, parents performing the actual care of their children helps that child develop. We need maternity and paternity leave, and that’s part of the cost of doing business.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 05:19 PM
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Interesting! Do you agree with paid maternity leave?
/r/MensRights24/01/23 02:10 PM
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I don’t think the US has paid maternity leave.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 02:05 PM
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I believe Tate when he said: "I like Eastern Europe as a whole because corruption is far more accessible. I find it offensive that a police officer in England will stop me and refuse to take a bribe." - Andrew Tate "I'm all over the place, so I end up with all these chicks just stuck in the house, sitting there, bored, completely in love with me. And of course they don't go out. They're not allowed out." - Andrew Tate “It is easier to get off rape charges in Romania. It’s 40 percent of the reaso…
/r/MensRights21/01/23 04:04 PM
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"I like Eastern Europe as a whole because corruption is far more accessible. I find it offensive that a police officer in England will stop me and refuse to take a bribe." - Andrew Tate "I'm all over the place, so I end up with all these chicks just stuck in the house, sitting there, bored, completely in love with me. And of course they don't go out. They're not allowed out." - Andrew Tate “It is easier to get off rape charges in Romania. It’s 40 percent of the reason I moved to Romania.” - Andr…
/r/MensRights20/01/23 06:51 PM
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All you need to do is stop at #9 to know there are unenumerated rights not directly specified in the constitution. Edit: that said, the opinion is weak. I support the right to an abortion, but Roe was too much too fast.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 06:57 PM
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How is this about mens rights? I thought MRAs support equality, not supremacy.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 01:09 AM
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u/sound5music, can you elaborate?
/r/MensRights16/01/23 01:47 PM
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Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights15/01/23 04:15 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights15/01/23 03:56 PM
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Hey! I have a couple reservations: 1 - it costs roughly $280k to raise a child using 2022 numbers, but it will cost more and more each year. Therefore, that ~$42 will have to change as time goes on. 2 - I think your plan is forgetting that child support is supposed to be individualized. Children aren’t the same and they have different needs. First and foremost, costs vary based on age. As a child ages, they get into more programs and activities. It costs more to feed an older child than a younge…
/r/MensRights14/01/23 04:02 PM
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Hey! Was Chris Hemsworth uncomfortable with his nude scene? https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a40444682/thor-love-thunder-chris-hemsworth-butt-nude-scene/
/r/MensRights11/01/23 01:17 PM
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“This is how it used to be” is never a good reason for anything. Why is any of this better than using the best-interest-of-the-child standard? The reasons you’ve stated for your proposal seem more about punishing women than actually helping the children who are caught in the middle. Also, your proposal only affects heterosexual relationships. How should custody be decided if a gay or lesbian couple separate?
/r/MensRights09/01/23 01:42 AM
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No. After it passes Congress, it has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states, but that isn’t a referendum. “Amendments may be proposed either by the Congress, through a joint resolution passed by a two-thirds vote, or by a convention called by Congress in response to applications from two-thirds of the state legislatures.”
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:01 PM
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Well Congress and the states can change the constitution through the amendment process
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:28 PM
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I didn’t realize the federal courts hear family law cases.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 03:01 PM
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It’s disgusting, but this is common. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2022/09/20/frank-alan-davidson-earlham-sentenced-2-years-probation-fatal-hit-and-run-stephanie-waddell/10433563002/ https://www.dailycitizen.news/news/local_news/tennessee-man-gets-probation-for-vehicular-homicide-in-crash-that-killed-dalton-resident/article_e3cafed6-0f70-53ba-bb90-b14612f7aa39.html https://starherald.com/news/state-and-regional/crime-and-courts/la-vista-man-gets-probation-for-caus…
/r/MensRights05/01/23 12:36 PM
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Why?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:29 AM
1

To be fair, not all trials in the US are by a jury. Sometimes it’s a bench trial which is when the judge is basically the jury.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 01:29 AM
1

I’m sorry but is half the world accused of sex trafficking?
/r/MensRights30/12/22 12:37 AM
1

You’re conflating too many things. Lots of people vote but are ineligible for the draft. If I was a man but I weighed 600 pounds, I couldn’t be drafted either but that doesn’t mean we have fat supremacy. Also, the feminists at the ACLU are specifically trying to get rid of the male-only registration requirement. https://www.aclu.org/news/womens-rights/requiring-men-but-not-women-to-register-for-the-draft-is-sex-discrimination
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:12 PM
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Was it misandry to push for the right to vote? Was it misandry to push for girls to get an education?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:03 PM
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Thank you for your answer! I think that’s a good description of MRA’s goals, but it’s not really a description of what the MRA movement has done.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:58 PM
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You’re not proving what MRAs have done, you’re just saying what feminists got wrong.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:49 PM
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Feminists say the exact same thing about MRAs. Aside from a few extreme feminists and a few extreme MRAs, it’s categorically wrong to say they’re about supremacy of either sex.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:48 PM
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Prove it. Feminists will claim they did all of that.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:44 PM
1

What are things MRAs have done for the betterment of society as a whole? I’m talking like things that helped WOMEN and men for the better and not just men. Have they every accomplished any achievements, goals, and or solutions to make society better or just by making life easier in general for society?
/r/MensRights29/12/22 06:21 PM
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This isn’t how consent works
/r/MensRights27/12/22 08:30 PM
-1

I’m confused why you’re asking the question. Did you not read the comments above?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 03:57 PM
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Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 03:56 PM
1

Okay. Well, in context I’m more likely to be raped in any given year than to be killed in a car crash. In context, I’m going to keep wearing my seatbelt anyway.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:40 PM
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So I’m a woman. I’m neither a feminist nor an MRA. Nutrition is what I understand best, and I plan on being a dietitian after college. If I’m in the cafeteria and a man, unprompted, tells me something I know is objectively wrong about the food we’re eating, are you saying I should listen, learn, thank him, and smile?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:33 PM
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Does this include unprompted explanations that are wrong?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:23 PM
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And 46,000 Americans die from car crashes each year but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have air bags.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 11:50 AM
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Alrighty. Merry Christmas!
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:37 AM
2

My dad has two guns. One is for hunting, but the other is a pistol in case someone breaks into the house. Is his fear someone may break in more justified than my fear someone may sexually assault me? Or does he still need to conquer his fears?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 12:01 AM
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“No one has every thought that society would benefit from ratifying such a right into law.” You’re conflating positive rights and negative rights. Just because something isn’t written down doesn’t mean it’s not a right. That’s literally what the 10th amendment says. And I’m pretty sure the 1st amendment gives me the right to feel how I feel. It’d be oxymoronic if I have the right to free speech and free expression but not a right to think for myself.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 11:38 PM
0

I’m confused. Are you saying people have no right to feel how they feel?
/r/MensRights23/12/22 11:25 PM
1

I am neither a feminist nor an MRA. But to pretend women have no right to fear being assaulted is just plain wrong.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 11:14 PM
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It’s awful. Fines should be based on income. I’m 17. If I get pulled over for speeding, it’s going to affect me way more than if a rich person like Jeff Bezos gets pulled over. It will deter me, but it does nothing to deter a rich person if we’re still paying the same fines. https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21120476/jeff-bezos-washington-dc-renovate-apartment-home-parking-tickets
/r/MensRights23/12/22 07:10 PM
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It is reasonable to take precautions that reduce your likelihood of dying from a stroke. It’s also similar to be aware that rape is a possibility and to take steps that mitigate that risk as well. What do you mean by the social safety nets in Europe?
/r/MensRights23/12/22 06:24 PM
3

Fair enough. Someone spanking me or catcalling me is not rape. Regretting sex isn’t rape, either.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 05:41 PM
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No, and no it’s not. If you include the more general sexual assaults, then the total is a little over 400,000 per year in the US.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 04:28 PM
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I’m confused. Are you relying on self-reported data from incarcerated people to say false accusations are more common than actual rape cases?
/r/MensRights23/12/22 02:06 PM
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Okay. There were 144,000 reports of rape last year alone. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:36 PM
1

Interesting. How about a 10 year old versus a 30 year old?
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:19 PM
2

So, in your kind, a 13 year old child is as morally culpable as a 30 year old adult?
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:29 AM
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It’s disgusting to think sex abusers and even rapists can be spared prison time, but it happens. It needs to change. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/judge-sentences-admitted-rapist-probation-prison-time/story?id=81264495
/r/MensRights22/12/22 12:43 PM
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Here’s a good white paper that discusses cognitive abilities of late teenagers compared to full-grown adults. https://clbb.mgh.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/CLBB-White-Paper-on-the-Science-of-Late-Adolescence-3.pdf One of the biggest contributors to criminal behavior is poverty. If people are secure in their housing and have regular access to food, they are less likely to commit crimes.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 01:56 AM
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Where did I say they should “get off scott free”?
/r/MensRights22/12/22 01:52 AM
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I mean, gangs use coercion and intimidation to make kids into criminals so I think that would be mitigation factor. It’s all about malice and intent, and I just find it hard to believe 13 year olds could have the same level of intent as an adult. There’s a lot of research distinguishing children from adults and why teenagers and young adults are more likely to commit crimes. Increasing penalties and charging 13 year olds as adults isn’t going to deter crime.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 11:39 PM
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I guess that’s why I’m confused. These girls were aged 13-16. The 13 year olds are still children. Do you think the story would be different if they were 13 year old boys?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 11:35 PM
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Yes and no. I mean, the justice system needs to be predictable. If it’s going to change, it needs to do change slowly. Charging and sentencing 13 year olds as adults is a huge change, and I’m not sure it’s a correct one.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 09:58 PM
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16 year olds are of higher moral culpability and are regularly charged as adults.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 09:51 PM
1

For the 13 year olds, yes. I would increase the punishment for 16 year olds regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 09:48 PM
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Well it’s hard to say exactly because we don’t have a lot of facts. For the 13 year olds, I think I’d treat them as juveniles. They’d need to go to a juvenile detention center and maybe be institutionalized until they’re like 21 or 25. They would also need therapy and they need class work on impulse control while they’re incarcerated.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 09:42 PM
0

Hey! Can you explain?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 09:30 PM
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Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 08:07 PM
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Fair enough, but the goals of punishment aren’t just about how the victim feels. I attended sentencing with a judge a couple weeks ago where a victim asked the judge to sentence a young man to be thrown in prison for life for just stealing his car. That’s not rational. I’m just going add this list to show it’s uncommon to sentence 13 year olds as adults even for murder. I’m not saying they shouldn’t be punished, but if you charge them like their adults then you’re going to charge them with first…
/r/MensRights21/12/22 04:14 PM
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It’s actually very rare for 13 year olds, at least in the US and Canada, to be charged as adults even for murder regardless of gender. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_killers
/r/MensRights21/12/22 03:39 PM
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Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 03:34 PM
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Should a 13 year old be prosecuted like an adult?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 02:33 PM
-2

Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:46 PM
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I guess that question turns on whether prison and aging is effective at deterring juvenile offenders from reoffending. Based on that list of kids not charged as adult, very few of them are EVER rearrested for anything. And maybe I’m missing it, but I don’t see anyone who was convicted of committing another murder after getting released.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:41 PM
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Looking at this list of child murders, it would be a pretty unusual step to make a per se rule that 13 year olds should be charged as adults. In this case, do you think the 13 year olds are just as morally guilty as the 16 year olds who also committed this crime?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:28 PM
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Why? Edit: I don’t want to detract from the seriousness of the situation. Criminal justice is just interesting for me, and I’m wondering if the goals of punishment are served by charging 13 year olds as adults.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:20 PM
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Sure, but how is that related to what happened here? 13 year olds murdering adults is not normal, but it’s not unheard of. Canada “dismantling” masculinity and this incident having happened in Canada doesn’t automatically mean there’s a correlation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_killers
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:18 PM
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Not really. Your answer has a lot of vague, conclusory statements which makes it hard to understand. How do you distinguish between “covering their arse” as opposed to genuinely trying to improve the movement?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:15 PM
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Even the 13 year olds?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 11:20 AM
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Why do you think that? What do you think of their ages?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 11:18 AM
-8

Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights21/12/22 11:16 AM
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I don’t get it. What did she do?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 04:57 PM
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https://www.mic.com/articles/141781/here-are-9-times-clothing-was-blamed-for-sexual-assault-rather-than-the-obvious
/r/MensRights20/12/22 02:52 PM
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But does that that imply all men are rapists? I don’t think so. At most, it implies men aren’t raped which is categorically wrong.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 01:13 PM
-4

Where does it say that?
/r/MensRights20/12/22 01:01 PM
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You’re right— you’re not a lawyer.
/r/MensRights17/12/22 11:38 AM
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It’s why I am neither a feminist nor an MRA. It’s one thing to push for equality and it’s a separate thing to just bash on the other gender. Neither should be a space to just hate the other gender.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 04:15 PM
0

Hey! Can you explain your second paragraph in a little more detail?
/r/MensRights16/12/22 01:54 PM
0

Hey! This lady definitely needs help. Anyone who acts that way isn’t right. Can you find any cases where a man with possession of a gun in an airport was killed? I can’t. https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2022/10/11/man-arrested-police-after-tsa-catches-him-gun-laguardia-airport https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2022/07/19/man-arrested-police-after-tsa-detects-loaded-gun-new-york-stewart https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2022/11/17/police-arrest-man-after-tsa-detects-disassembl…
/r/MensRights15/12/22 01:15 PM
1

Hey! Maybe I’m unlucky since I help my parents with all six of those things. Do you really think things like ‘getting the Christmas tree’ and ‘getting decorations’ are intense physical activities? Allow me to describe your mom’s tasks the way you describe your dad’s: 1 - thrust my arm into a spiny tree, walk around the tree a couple hundred times, stand on top wrung of step stool on tip toes so I can put on the star, and physically manipulate the tree so the best side faces our despite my small …
/r/MensRights14/12/22 01:21 PM
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Hey! I think your reply is interesting. Personally, I’m neither an MRA nor a feminist. I’m more of a subscriber to gender difference theory which means I recognize there are evolutionary differences between men and women and that these should dictate, in part, how our society ought to be shaped. Anyway, I think your comment is curious because it’s highlighting a fallacy in a hyperbole. I agree if there was one man and a few women then society likely won’t live on. But that’s not realistic. Rathe…
/r/MensRights13/12/22 01:15 PM
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I’m just saying it’s interesting to post on r/womenarethings given the content of your post here.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 10:27 PM
1

Strange post history.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 10:19 PM
1

I’m sorry, but what was the content of your message before you removed it?
/r/MensRights10/12/22 07:13 PM
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When I do this search, the same link for the National Domestic Violence Hotline appears at the top.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 12:39 AM
6

Balwani was found guilty of 12 counts of defrauding investors and patients. Elizabeth Holmes was found guilty of 4 counts of defrauding investors. It’s not right, and they both should have convicted for a lot more.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 01:22 PM
0

As a general principle, it’s ridiculous when anyone gets incarcerated for simple possession of marijuana. Are there any similarly situated people in Idaho who had roughly a gram of thc oil get sentenced to 9 years in a penal colony?
/r/MensRights09/12/22 12:56 PM
4

Whelp, that’s what you get when you’re a celebrity. But also if I’m Russia, I’m going to have a harder time releasing a spy than someone caught with cannabis oil. This isn’t a one-way street where the US gets to act unilaterally to recover any prisoners of our choosing. Also, do you really think people who use cannabis oil are “druggies”? Recreational marijuana is legal in half of the US, and medical marijuana (which is usually thc oil) is legal in a few others.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 12:41 PM
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I’m not a feminist nor am I a MRA. That said, I don’t think it’s fair to analogize Paul Whelan to Brittany Griner. Griner was convicted of having THC oil. Whelan was convicted of spying. What I find frustrating is that there have been other American men and women over the years incarcerated in Russia after being convicted of simple possession of marijuana. Griner got so much attention in large part because she’s a celebrity.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 03:02 AM
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I’m not sure it’s fair to say women have been the gatekeepers of sex since the “dawn of man.” Hell, male penises are umbrella-shaped due to evolution basically with the intent of essentially scooping out the sperm of another. For millennia, sexual violence was the norm, and it’s only recently that we’ve been making waves to end it. Please let me know if you think I’m wrong!
/r/MensRights08/12/22 04:48 AM
2

Don’t forget the difference in sentencing based on the gender and race of the victim. https://dc.etsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3922&context=etd
/r/MensRights07/12/22 01:08 PM
1

The article says the limit is .035. Im not sure what you mean by “pink justice.” I’m just saying that if we’re concerned about sentencing disparities then this is a bad example. She got an adequate sentence.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 10:53 PM
3

Thanks for correcting me! I missed the zero in her BAC. A BAC of nearly 1% would mean she’s dead.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 04:54 PM
1

The cause of the problem doesn’t matter as much as the willingness to fix the problem. Even if men cause some problems, it is still a societal problem and requires societal solutions.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 03:56 PM
15

I’m confused, OP. This women got what sounds like a OWI after crashing into a parking post. Her BAC was a .86 which is illegal and I guess is 2.5 times the legal limit in the UK, but it’s only .06 higher than the legal limit here in the US. She has a perfect driving record, complied with the cops, apologized to the McDonalds the next day and offered to pay for the damages. I get that her only punishment is a fine, lost her license for over a year, and a requirement that she pay into the victim r…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 03:53 PM
8

Hey! First things first, I agree that nobody is owed marriage and that nobody is owed sex. In counter arguments 3-1 and 3-2, you say women should be the ones who make their intentions clear. I agree, but this needs to be true for everyone regardless of gender. I’m not sure I understand argument 4, so I don’t think I should respond to the counter arguments. Dating doesn’t need to lead to marriage. It’s about finding the right fit.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 02:38 PM
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Are you even reading what you’re citing to or are you just a troll? You reference OPs original article that states 30% of false rape cases are due to the refusal to marry. You’re misinterpreting the data. That means 30% of the 8% of cases the NRCB says are false. It doesn’t mean 30% of all cases. The same is true for the 40% statistic. You included a link to Lawyers Club India, but it doesn’t help you at all. You’re misreading what it means. A claim for “false marriage promise” doesn’t mean the …
/r/MensRights03/12/22 11:45 AM
0

Correct. And the NRCB says a little less than 8% of accusations are false.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:46 AM
2

So your “sources” are (1) a twitter post that cites OPs article that misinterprets the NRCB data, (2) the article OP cited that misinterprets the NRCB data, and (3) an article about a documentary? Look, I’m not saying false accusations aren’t a hug deal, but if you want to be taken seriously you have to look at the data. You said my link doesn’t provide any sources. That’s wrong. It cites the NRCB data that confirms a little less than 8% of rape accusations are false. You cited an article in whi…
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:12 AM
2

You’re making leaps by not providing any evidence to support anything you’re saying. The link I provided citing the NRCB says less than 8% of false. If you’re saying the NRCB of India is wrong, then the least you can do is prove your point. Instead, you’re relying on assumptions and anecdotes.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 10:58 PM
4

It’s becoming clear to me you don’t know what the criminal process looks like and you don’t know what it means for a case to be dropped or to end in an acquittal. You’re making some pretty big leaps in logic.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 10:10 PM
-1

So you’re just coming up with explanations for why it’s okay to misread the data? Look, the provable data is bad enough. Nearly 10% of rape allegations are false. Don’t ruin the totally valid point by misreading the data.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 09:34 PM
-14

Whose saying all rape convictions are real rape cases? False accusations happen as do wrongful convictions. But OP cited to an article that incorrectly claims the NRCB says 74% of rape cases are fake. That’s wrong. If you read the citation in the article, the NRCB actually says 74% of cases end in acquittals or get dropped. As I cited, the NRCB says less than 8% are fake.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 08:57 PM
-37

False accusations can and have led to convictions. But 74% of rape cases getting dropped or ending in an acquittal does not mean those cases stem from false accusations. False accusations are a big deal, but let’s not misread statistics
/r/MensRights02/12/22 08:23 PM
-81

Acquittals don’t mean they’re fake. In reality, the National Crime Records Bureau says less than 8% of rape investigations in India are found to be “fake.”
/r/MensRights02/12/22 07:42 PM
-1

The legal field is also filled with people who refuse to retire. It’s not uncommon to find lawyers who graduated in the 60s who are still practicing law. One of my dad’s mentors is still technically practicing, though in a more limited capacity, and he graduated in 1959.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 01:13 PM
3

Hey! How do you know it costs $500k? I didn’t realize your learn how much it costs to prosecute.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 01:07 PM
2

My dad is a partner at a medium-sized law firm. As a partner, he is obliged to mentor new associates. He also mentors lawyers in a more limited capacity in the county bar association, but I don’t think that’s required.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 01:03 PM
4

It’s not right when feminists do this either. If you want to say you’re better than feminists then you need to act better.
/r/MensRights24/11/22 01:19 PM
28

Planted evidence?
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:22 PM
3

But is it possible to know that forever? Like, my grandparents loved each other a lot when they got married and my dad will tell you he had a great childhood. Once they became empty nesters, though, everything fell apart. The things that once bonded them together no longer existed, so they separated. They both found other spouses and both are friendly to each other, but they just couldn’t stick together any longer. Would you say they separated for a “bad reason”?
/r/MensRights20/11/22 07:45 PM
2

What about people who grow apart?
/r/MensRights20/11/22 07:19 PM
10

I know this is a little different, but I’ve already been contacted to become a “recruiter” at my d-1 university even though I’m in high school. I’m a woman. Some colleges specifically reach out to athletic/attractive women to essentially be intensive tour guides for high level recruits like athletes. This has nothing to do with diversity and inclusion. Rather, it’s a ploy to appeal to male sensibilities.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 01:09 PM
1

I’m not sure I’m understanding your point. If anything, WW1 destroyed the aristocracy. It created a political vacuum which is what led to so much social change in the 20s and 30s. If the goal was to protect the monarchies, then why was the gentleman-class in the front lines of every major part of the war? Hell, there were so many casualties among the aristocracy that the military structures created “temporary gentleman” of the lower-class makes just to fill the officer corps.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 06:06 PM
1

I’m not sure I’m understanding your point. If anything, WW1 destroyed the aristocracy. It created a political vacuum which is what led to so much social change in the 20s and 30s. If the goal was to protect the monarchies, then why was the gentleman-class in the front lines of every major part of the war? Hell, there were so many casualties among the aristocracy that the military structures created “temporary gentleman” of the lower-class makes just to fill the officer corps.
/r/MensRights14/11/22 01:10 AM
4

Hey! While I agree it’s a mischaracterization to blame men for putting the onus on women to take birth control, it is still sort of a half-truth. Here’s why. Women who take birth control pills or get implants have to put up with a lot of side effects. The reason for it is because pregnancy itself carries its own side effects. For example, birth control pills increase a woman’s chance of developing blood clots, but pregnancy increases her chances of getting blood clots ten-fold! So, when weighing…
/r/MensRights11/11/22 02:54 PM
2

Some pompous rich asshole: “Someone should farm.” @74TEu: “You’re the MAN” Some farmer: “I actually work.” @74TEu: “People produce mainly with ideas not manual labor”
/r/MensRights11/11/22 11:39 AM
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Hey! Can you please please please provide specific example or sources for your questions? You’re not giving us a lot to work from unless we’ve magically only read the same books as you. As for Sparta, I’ve never heard that it was a women-led society. Rather, Sparta was a place where men and women generally had more equality (setting aside the issue of slavery which affected both men and women). For instance, Spartan women were allowed to own land and even receive formal educations. You’re right …
/r/MensRights09/11/22 12:59 PM
2

That’s not even close the same analogy. Let’s use the one you’ve been saying. You said sexual harassment is more common from people who know the victim. You said the woman in this story has “more reason to be genuinely afraid of” of the friend. You’re assigning values to fear, and you were trying to make her fear of the strange man seem invalid by using a red herring fallacy. That’s what I mean by “invalid.” It’s what you tried to do, and now you’re doing everything you can to avoid answering th…
/r/MensRights05/11/22 12:08 PM
2

That’s not an answer. If the friend was never attacked, would his feelings and observations have been invalid?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 11:58 AM
3

Her: “a strange guy keeps floating around the bus stop. He is always there when I’m there. It’s dark, and he never actually boards the bus.” Friend: “I’ll walk with you and make sure you board the bus safely.” sees the strange man several days and after several nights he is assaulted by the strange man @Same-Machine12: her feelings are invalid. She should have been more afraid of you!
/r/MensRights05/11/22 11:45 AM
3

I’m confused. If you’re a man, then you’re more likely to be physically assaulted. If someone makes you feel uncomfortable, are your feelings invalid until you’ve been attacked?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 11:39 AM
1

RBG argued in Duren that a male defendant was entitled to a jury comprised of his peers. She argued in Goldfarb that a law prohibiting a male widower from receiving his wife’s SS was unconstitutional. She did that again in Wiesenfield. In Shevin, RBG argued a Florida statute that gave a tax exemption to widows but not widowers was unconstitutional. In Frontiero, RBG argued it was unconstitutional for the military to pay an allowance for female dependents but not male dependents. https://libguide…
/r/MensRights02/11/22 06:22 PM
0

Thank you for your reply, but you didn’t answer my question. Who are your allies?
/r/MensRights02/11/22 12:45 PM
1

RBG argued in Duren that a male defendant was entitled to a jury comprised of his peers. She argued in Goldfarb that a law prohibiting a male widower from receiving his wife’s SS was unconstitutional. She did that again in Wiesenfield. In Shevin, RBG argued a Florida statute that gave a tax exemption to widows but not widowers was unconstitutional. In Frontiero, RBG argued it was unconstitutional for the military to pay an allowance for female dependents but not male dependents. https://libguide…
/r/MensRights02/11/22 12:17 PM
1

Are you sure about that? When it comes to the draft, it tends to be only conservatives that support it being male-only. Even recently when the Supreme Court decided not to take it up, only Justice Sotomayor, Justice Breyer, and Justice Kavanaugh questioned its constitutionality. And it was Justice Marshall who dissented from the 1981 opinion upholding the discrimination. https://constitutioncenter.org/amp/blog/what-would-rbg-think
/r/MensRights02/11/22 12:06 PM
0

I don’t think this means what you guys are saying it means. I think the idea is if the Supreme Court was just men (which was true for almost 200 years), you wouldn’t question their credentials just because they’re men. The same should be true for women, too. If we’ve reached true equality, then there may very well be disproportionate representation but that wouldn’t mean the justices are less qualified. But if we have quotas in line with composition of genders based in our population, then we’d …
/r/MensRights01/11/22 11:04 PM
3

What?
/r/MensRights01/11/22 01:01 PM
1

I’m sorry but if your right to a speedy trial has been violated then why haven’t you moved to dismiss your case?
/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:23 PM
2

I’m not sure history started in the 1950s.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 12:20 PM
4

Lol bud calm down. You’re saying there’s systemic bias, but you haven’t proved there’s actual bias regarding this issue at all. All you’ve done is cited a conclusory fact and suggested that must be evidence of bias. That’s exactly what feminists do, and that’s bad faith.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 07:00 PM
4

If it affected women and not men but for the same reasons, then I’d be saying the same thing.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 06:30 PM
2

That’s not proof of systemic bias. Most laws require alimony be paid to a partner if they contributed to the marriage in an unquantifiable manner. So, if someone leaves work to have a child and they take time off to the raise the child, then they may qualify for alimony.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:54 PM
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Okay then, prove me wrong.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 04:54 PM
0

That’s such a good way of putting it!
/r/MensRights30/10/22 04:28 PM
4

I mean, if you want meaningful change then I think it is important to understand more about what causes what
/r/MensRights30/10/22 04:06 PM
0

Are you sure about that? I mean, the study I provided says 28% of men have 15 or more partners. Only 11% of men will only have 1 partner. Edit: It also says 17% of women will have only 1 partner while 13% of women will have 15 or more partners
/r/MensRights30/10/22 04:03 PM
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I have, yet I have never found one that explicitly says women should benefit based exclusively on gender. For kids, women do tend to win primary care. But if you look at the factors the court considers (ie who takes them to the doctor, takes them to school, spends the most time with the kids at home, etc), then of course custody will go to the child’s primary caretaker.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 03:50 PM
3

But is that a product of bias in the law itself? Most laws require alimony be paid to a partner if they contributed to the marriage in an unquantifiable manner. So, if someone leaves work to have a child and they take time off to the raise the child, then they may qualify for alimony.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 03:47 PM
2

What specific law is that? And does that law have a gender component?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 03:13 PM
0

Hey! I’m not saying I disagree, but men on average have 6.3 sexual partners while women have 4.3. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm How does this factor into your analysis?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 03:09 PM
-13

What divorce laws specifically benefit women?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 03:00 PM
-5

I’m confused. I know there are scholarships based on gender/race, but were you seriously told you can’t get ANY scholarships?
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:51 PM
2

Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights23/10/22 05:38 PM
-1

Hey! I do think it’s ridiculous she isn’t going to prison, but that isn’t uncommon in involuntary manslaughter cases. She will be on probation for 10 years which is very likely to lead to violations of that probation. She may very well end up incarcerated.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 01:57 PM
4

Here’s another example. https://theconversation.com/amp/encouraging-suicide-or-committing-manslaughter-106324
/r/MensRights23/10/22 01:49 PM
2

I’m confused. Do you think it’s wrong to punish someone for a double homicide if they kill a pregnant woman?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 01:39 PM
2

I mean, how much more input do you think he should have? OP said he “begged her.” He made his case, are you saying it should be his decision that overrides hers?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 01:26 PM
3

I mean, there are anecdotes on both sides of this coin. Tim Allen was convicted after being found with over one pound of cocaine before his acting career. Did that slow down his career? Thankfully no, but this is not common. To pare this down as a male/female issue is to ignore the real problems with criminal sentencing. Permanent records create problems for all people.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 04:47 PM
1

Do you have a proposed solution?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:24 PM
2

This. I’m genuinely confused by what OP wants that isn’t solved by criminal justice reform which is good for both men and women.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 12:12 PM
4

“Where was she when I was in middle school?” How do you even reason with people like this?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:49 AM
4

Thanks! But I am confused. Doesn’t that statistic show ~43 people of every 100,000 will be raped in any given year? So it’s not about a lifetime unless I’m reading it wrong. I’m sorry if I am!
/r/MensRights19/10/22 02:29 PM
2

Thanks!
/r/MensRights19/10/22 12:41 PM
3

Hey! I’m sorry if I missed it, but where does the fbi say it’s 1 in 50? I always heard it was 1 in 6.
/r/MensRights19/10/22 11:40 AM
-5

I don’t believe we have laws about “feminicide” in the US and I’m not sure what you mean about “women’s ministry.” Edit: I see that u/pappo4ever edited his comment but didn’t mention it which is why my comment doesn’t make much sense now.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 03:31 PM
1

Hi! Can you point these laws out for me? I’ve tried looking for laws that explicitly help women win custody, but I couldn’t find any. I’m still learning how to look up statutes. I’m in Iowa so that may be affecting me
/r/MensRights18/10/22 12:14 PM
3

Hey! I asked my dad who is a lawyer. For starters, keep calling the lawyer everyday until he calls you back. You can also try to email him. Depending on your state, you can check the court filings online to see if there is movement going on in the case. Check that. If there are things happening in the case that you’re not being updated about, then that is clearly a problem. It’s normal for it to take time for your lawyer to get back to you, but four months is outrageous. If he keeps avoiding you…
/r/MensRights03/10/22 10:41 PM
1

Would you rather it have said “women” or should all articles just say “people” instead?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 12:04 PM
2

It’s the woman who was raped who initiated the lawsuit against the prison. As the article notes, “a senior deputy attorney general wrote that the [clerk] “acted in a manner which in whole or in part contributed to the events” in his response to her lawsuit.” They were fighting the lawsuit by saying the clerk basically did it to herself by continuing the work there despite the fact that the “victim had complained twice to her boss – about a week before the attack – that she felt uncomfortable and…
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:23 PM
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But the OP’s question is about victim-blaming, not just about shaming. You wouldn’t blame the Lamborghini owner for the car being stolen, and you shouldn’t blame a woman for being raped just because she was out at 2 am. But that doesn’t always happen. Lawyer in Rape Trial Links Thong With Consent, and Ireland Erupts "What Were You Wearing?" - Confronting Victim-Blaming for Sexual Assault Pennsylvania woman blamed for her own rape in state response to lawsuit
/r/MensRights15/09/22 12:13 PM
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“Isn’t violence already justified in some instances?” I think that’s what this author is saying should be promoted. Like there are exceptions for self-defense for battered spouses and victims of violence. Instead of relying on the police, a victim should stick up for themselves because these cases aren’t always prosecuted. And because women are disproportionately likely to be victims, they should be encourage to engage in this self-help more. I’m not sure how I feel about the article. Like yes, …
/r/MensRights11/09/22 01:02 PM
-36

Lol
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:40 PM
-29

Why?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:33 PM
-24

Where?
/r/MensRights10/09/22 11:01 AM
2

Here’s one such case: https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Yovino-sentenced-to-1-year-in-false-rape-case-13177363.php I don’t believe false rape accusations should go unpunished, but I don’t think we need new laws to do it.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 05:04 PM
2

I mean, it’s a crime to file a false police report. And on a civil level, you can sue for defamation or libel
/r/MensRights09/09/22 04:24 PM
0

What’s the most man-hating country?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 12:59 PM
0

I mean, the crime is actually perjury because it’s lying to public officials. Every state has criminalized perjury, and a brief search on Google looks like perjury is punished by 5 to 25 years depending on the jurisdiction.
/r/MensRights09/09/22 12:55 PM
1

Where are you from?
/r/MensRights09/09/22 12:52 PM
1

What does that mean?
/r/MensRights02/09/22 01:45 AM
22

Pfft. If you aren’t 6’2”, then hit the gym fat ass /s
/r/MensRights01/09/22 10:45 PM
3

💯
/r/MensRights01/09/22 12:25 PM
20

Of course there’s the added complexity of not knowing when you’re pregnant. Unless they’re trying for a baby, most women don’t know until about a month in if not longer. So that creates a problem regardless of whether it’s intentional. I didn’t really think of that!
/r/MensRights01/09/22 12:21 PM
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I agree with the second comment for sure! I think the timing requirement necessarily needs to be more onerous on men, though, just because their decision may affect a woman’s decision to have an abortion which has rigid timing requirements.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 12:15 PM
2

It’s so hard being an MRA ally when I see comments like this. I don’t like the way modern feminism puts all men in a box, but it’s so hypocritical to do the same to women and does very little to advance men’s rights.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 11:31 AM
-1

Why do you think that?
/r/MensRights01/09/22 11:27 AM
3

Everyone seems to think the military is all running and gunning. One of my buddies does payroll for the marine corp. Another friend of mine is a legal assistant in the army. Should they get a pension even though it’s as easy as a civilian job with the same title and responsibilities? Also, I thought all government employees get a pension based on their time of service. Like even school janitors get a pension in Iowa if they work for the state for like 20 or 25 years.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 11:22 AM
1

It’s in the American constitution, so you may be unfamiliar if you’re not American and I’m sorry for assuming! I think other countries have something similar, though. Anyway, it’s the right for a defendant to confront the witnesses against you. And, importantly, it enables a jury to visibly see a witness since it is important when measuring credibility. Even if a young child is testifying and is terrified of the courtroom, the jury still has to visibly see the child. Here’s a better explanation:…
/r/MensRights31/08/22 10:13 AM
1

That violates the confrontation clause
/r/MensRights31/08/22 10:04 AM
1

I mean, I think laws that prosecute false accusers would be worse for men. Men who face physical or sexual abuse already have a tough time proving the abuse was real. And I’m not sure I understand what you mean when you say you think I don’t believe in rape laws. Of course we need laws against rape.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:52 PM
1

Hey! This is an interesting point! Wouldn’t punishment people who admit they were lying disincentivize them from ever admitting they lied? Like, at least if they admit they were lying then someone who is innocent has a chance to go free. I guess it’s a balancing thing.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:16 PM
1

Hey! https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/justice-for-all-deterring-the-crime-of-perjury/amp
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:12 PM
-1

I agree generally. I see it often on here how men and boys are frequently not believed when they report sexual assaults and rapes. It stands to reason that if it’s too easy to charge someone for being a false accuser, then it may lead to more men and boys being wrongly charged.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:08 PM
-1

My thinking is that if it’s too easy to prosecute someone, then it may deter real victims who think there may not be enough evidence to convict. Does that help it make sense?
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:06 PM
1

Literally yes. I’m more of an ally and not a full-fledged MRA and I still got banned from a couple subs.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 12:15 PM
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Unbelievably fucked. Ohio legislators need to fix that law so it can’t happen again.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 10:01 PM
1

I mean, the law uses the reasonable person standard. You can say the same thing about everything else in the law.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:46 PM
1

Thanks! It’s easy for laws to be misinterpreted, so I’m glad actual scholars are trying to help
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:18 PM
1

I do!
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:11 PM
-1

Then that’s not enough to say the tattoo artist should have stopped because passively doing nothing why the tattoo artist is literally the safest way to get a tattoo. If you exhibit traits that you no longer want to proceed like looking uncomfortable and upset but don’t say no, then yes, the tattoo artist ought to stop until you’re ready to proceed.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:10 PM
2

Can you cite me a link, then? Because I’ve read several articles on this and the actual law adopted in Spain. And with full offense to the media, just because a talking head says it doesn’t means it’s true.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 11:58 AM
2

Where in the law does it say rape is presumed? Where in the law does it say you need a piece of paper? We have affirmative consent laws in several states in the US, but it’s not correlated with an increase in false rape accusations.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 11:51 AM
-2

But how does this law change that? If I consent to a tattoo but want to stop halfway through, then the tattoo artist stops. That’s analogous to “no means no.” If I consent to a tattoo but pass out halfway through, then the tattoo artist stops. I can’t consent to things for which I’m incapacitated. That’s analogous to this “yes means yes.” The law states “Consent can only be considered consent when it has been freely manifested through actions that, in accordance with the circumstances, clearly e…
/r/MensRights26/08/22 10:26 AM
0

According to the article, the law says “Consent can only be considered consent when it has been freely manifested through actions that, in accordance with the circumstances, clearly express the person’s wishes.” Where in the article does it say women are excluded?
/r/MensRights26/08/22 10:16 AM
-1

I am not trying to be inflammatory, but I’m confused. Why is affirmative consent controversial? I mean, it’s required for almost every other type of physical contact, so why is it somehow bad that affirmative consent is required for sex?
/r/MensRights26/08/22 01:12 AM
3

Hey! I’m not great at knitting, but I learned from my mom. Learning from an actual person may help you! Some yarn shops have clubs or usually someone available who can help you along. One of our shops literally has a room filled with comfy chairs and tables for people to commingle and knit. Also, better yarn might help. I don’t think I’ve seen yarn at the dollar store before, but I bet it’s acrylic which is harder to use. Stores like hobby lobby sell yarn specific for babies which has fire retar…
/r/RedPillWomen30/07/22 12:10 PM
2

Fair enough! The dating pool is a little different when you’re in high school
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 05:14 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 03:21 PM
2

Thanks for the advice!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 01:51 PM
1

Hey! I really appreciate your feedback! It means a lot that you are willing to talk about your personal experience. No matter what we do, someone will always have a rude comment. A few months ago, my friends and I were running through a park and an old man told us we needed more meat on our bones! ☠️ Thanks!!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 01:50 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 01:45 PM
2

He’s definitely just a different kind of athlete. Like, the kind who drinks mass gainer every day! I appreciate the advice!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 01:45 PM
1

I’m definitely not trying to bulk everywhere. The main thing I want when strength training is to improve for endurance with each muscle, and bulking isn’t necessary for that.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 01:42 PM
2

That’s good advice! Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/22 01:40 PM
2

I really appreciate your description! I’m still trying to figure out what it means to be red pilled and how it may or may not fit into my life. I definitely share a lot of the same values! I think I’m not going to talk to him about it unless he brings it up again.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 09:04 PM
2

Ouch! That’s good info to know!
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 08:51 PM
3

Oh definitely! It’s better to hear it upfront
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 08:51 PM
6

I’d say disturbed and confused, I guess.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 08:26 PM
3

Definitely. I don’t know if that’s just what he thought I meant or what
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 08:03 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 07:38 PM
4

He’s okay! He’s smart and athletic, but not the most charismatic person. I haven’t had a ton of interactions with him since we’ve barely spent any alone time together other than the first date
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 07:33 PM
3

That’s what I’m thinking. It’s not like I’m bulking to make cuts in the same degree as him.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 07:22 PM
1

I’m just struggling with the end goal of feminism. Like, I want everyone to have equal rights, but I also think that there are innate differences between men and women, and some of these differences are good things.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 07:17 PM
3

Thanks, u/kombuchaenema! Love the name 🤣
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 06:59 PM
9

Thanks! Yeah, I think he just kind of misunderstands that I’m not doing strength training like him. It’s not like I’m drinking mass gainer to seriously bulk up for a cut like he’s used to
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 06:58 PM
5

Definitely! It’s really cool that you’re a figure skater!
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 06:56 PM
6

Definitely! I think I may just need to explain it better. Like, my version of strength training is certainly not to gain a like the bulking and cutting that he’s used to.
/r/RedPillWomen22/07/22 06:46 PM
1

I’d generally support paper abortions. As established repeatedly on this subreddit, men are victims of unwanted pregnancies, too. And it’s unreasonable for people to say abortions as a result of rape are insignificant since it literally affects thousands of people. That’s not an insignificant number.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 12:20 PM
1

I’m confused. Your article says that the test for medical necessity should be applied to abortions, not that abortions are never medically necessary.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 12:18 PM
1

So you’re using anecdotes that I have no way to verify versus what an actual organization says?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:59 AM
2

No. With the many circumstances that can lead to a rape, it’s unreasonable to expect everyone (men, women, boys, or girls) to report a rape in 48 hours.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:58 AM
2

Abortions are sometimes needed. We shouldn’t let legislators be arm-chair doctors. https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2019/09/abortion-can-be-medically-necessary
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:35 AM
-1

It’s not zero. Even if it’s slightly less than 1%, it’s still between 5,000-8,000 a year according to the Gutmacher Institute.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:33 AM
-3

But it’s not zero.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:10 AM
2

Like if there’s a realistic chance she may die?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:03 AM
1

What if the woman’s life is at risk?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:00 AM
5

That’s a good point! I didn’t realize doctors were sometimes hesitant to do vasectomies since there’s literally a billboard here in Iowa that offers them for like $800 (although I’d rule any medical procedures promoted via billboard are suspect).
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:20 PM
2

That’s really frustrating. Can’t vasectomies be reversed? Doctors shouldn’t be doing that.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:07 PM
3

I see this argument a lot, and I agree that women should exercise their agency over conception. That said, the reality is far from easy. To get my IUD, it took four doctor’s visits with three different doctors. I needed my mom’s signature and presence at the appointment per hospital and insurance procedures even though it’s not required by law. They couldn’t get the IUD in the first time they tried, so I was opened up with a speculum and prodded for 20 minutes to no effect. Thankfully, I got the…
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:43 PM
1

I see why this is really important to you, and I appreciate the thoroughness in all of your replies. Thank you!
/r/MensRights23/06/22 07:18 PM
1

Hey! I’m just going to apologize for yesterday. I should have learned way more about the case as you clearly have. I’m still not going to pick a side until more facts come out, but I should have done more to clearly express my opinion and to ask more thoughtful questions. Im still learning about men’s rights, and I was definitely condescending at times. That’s not cool, and I’m sorry.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 06:50 PM
1

I fail to see how I’m “bragging.” It’s a fact. As I said, one of the bars even has a playground for children. I guess it’s different where you’re from, but you don’t have to be a legal adult to enter a bar here.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 10:24 AM
1

It’s not against the law in Iowa, but thanks for that. It’s not like I have a fake ID. They just don’t ask for your ID until you order alcohol
/r/MensRights23/06/22 03:28 AM
-4

Isn’t that illegal? https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/felony-offense/can-i-record-a-conversation-between-myself-anothe
/r/MensRights22/06/22 11:43 PM
8

People should be allowed to generally have whatever preferences they want. It’s only controlling when they unfairly coerce or manipulate someone into abiding by those preferences.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 08:18 PM
1

Non-verbal conduct can be hearsay. It’s literally written into the rule. So, witnessing someone drinking is not hearsay, but using it as assertive conduct that they are at least 21 would be hearsay. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_801
/r/MensRights22/06/22 08:09 PM
0

One thing I should have made clear from the beginning is that I’m not trying to defend her. But I’m not going to believe him just on his word. It doesn’t make sense to be to believe one person but not the other without something actually concrete to substantiate their claims. They do all serve food in some capacity which I guess is why we’re all allowed in. I don’t know all the laws.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 08:03 PM
0

I’m 17 and there’s only two bars I know of that check for IDs at the door. I’m from Iowa in a college town, so maybe that has something to do with it. Even the bars that check for IDs will just stamp your hand before letting you in. That said, most bars have no issue with people my age or way younger coming inside. One of the bars even has playground equipment for children. So I’m sure that’s coloring my experience with bars, but it seems patently unreasonable to assume age.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 07:40 PM
-1

A few things. You’re still forgetting the larger point that I initially took issue with. You said “there needs to be a criminal charge is a girl falsely claims she is 18.” I asked about the standard of proof for that broadly. Her mere presence at a bar doesn’t mean she’s of age. You challenged my knowledge of hearsay. Admittedly, I’m not an expert, but I did mock trial for a while and my dad is a lawyer, so I could ask him questions about the rule of evidence. Hearsay includes even non-verbal co…
/r/MensRights22/06/22 07:18 PM
1

Lol yeah? Maybe it’s an Iowa thing. They ID you if you try to buy an alcoholic drink, but we can definitely get in no problem. One of the bars even has playground equipment for children
/r/MensRights22/06/22 06:53 PM
-1

And I’m sorry if I’m being confusing. I’m genuinely trying to grapple with this and I don’t have a lot of experience with the law
/r/MensRights22/06/22 06:43 PM
-11

But all the information about how he thought she was 18 is just hearsay, right? Hearsay is technically evidence, but it’s not reliable. Like, that’s the problem that gets so many men wrongly accused and even convicted of rape in the first place.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 06:41 PM
-6

Where did you read that she clearly told him she was an adult?
/r/MensRights22/06/22 06:25 PM
-6

Where did you read that she clearly told him she was an adult?
/r/MensRights22/06/22 06:16 PM
2

Innnnnteresting. Thanks!
/r/MensRights22/06/22 06:09 PM
3

What is/was MGTOW? I only really see conclusory statements that is was bad.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 06:03 PM
0

Fair point!
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:57 PM
-13

That’s different from what you said. You said there needs to be a criminal charge for girls who false claim they are over 18. Further, I’m 17, yet I can get into lots of bars and breweries. One of our bars near me even has a playground for children, so that seems like an insufficient basis
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:40 PM
-1

I don’t think you’re right. What happened was that there was a different civil case against Bill Cosby many years ago. A deposition was requested, and Cosby only gave the deposition because a prosecutor told Cosby they were not pursuing criminal charges. Cosby then gave the deposition which contained incriminating statements, and the prosecutor went ahead and prosecuted Cosby despite the agreement. So, it was a criminal conviction that was overturned. What happened here was a completely differen…
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:14 PM
-14

I’m not saying I disagree, but what would be the legal standard for proving a girl lied about her age? It just seems really hard to prove, but I’d be worried that making it easy to prove would also make it harder to convict actual rapists. And maybe this is because I am 17, but age doesn’t really come up before doing anything like that.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:09 PM
1

It doesn’t seem unreasonable considering other cases. Just a Google search yields dozens of cases with multi-million dollar cases despite the defendants not being famous or wealthy.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 04:23 PM
9

Just to add, the standard of proof for a criminal conviction is beyond a reasonable doubt. For a civil case, it is usually by a preponderance of the evidence which means more likely than not.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 04:15 PM
-4

I think I’ve heard this only twice at my school. Once was a girl, but the other time was a guy.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:43 PM
1

I’m not a man, but I am 16. I got stopped last Saturday by TSA because of a pocket on my leggings. They explained what they were doing, but nobody questioned my age or anything. They ran their hands up and down my legs several times before waving me through. Edit: it has me and my parents thinking about getting TSA pre check. You might want to do the same.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 02:56 PM
1

Gender aside, why is he in there at all? Is there really not a better way?
/r/AntiFeminists07/06/22 01:57 PM
4

Thank you! It’s not uncommon for me to hear men blame men (as a class) for many problems. What do you think I can do in that situation?
/r/MensRights06/06/22 01:13 AM
2

I don’t think I know enough to do that yet. But I am sympathetic to many positions of this group!
/r/MensRights06/06/22 01:09 AM
1

I said this to one guy at school, but I just didn’t want to offend him since he was creeping me out. He kept offering me rides, tried carrying my bag several times, and would send me answers to homework in one of our classes among other things. I routinely told him “no,” but be just kept it up. He asked me out on a date, and I told him “no” and that he was very nice but kind of smothering. What’s a better way to handle this situation going forward?
/r/MensRights05/06/22 10:21 PM
1

Many feminists definitely miss the mark. To cast blame on either sex exclusively as the cause of all problems is completely dishonest. Can you explain what you mean in your last sentence?
/r/MensRights02/06/22 09:02 PM
11

That’s crazy. I got banned from r/offmychest the instant I asked a question on someone’s post on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 08:53 PM
2

The lack of paternity leave is absolutely ridiculous.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 08:48 PM
1

That’s a really interesting counterargument! I don’t know enough about marriage and statistics related to age of partnerships at the moment. I’ll need to think a little harder about this. Thanks!
/r/MensRights02/06/22 08:47 PM
-1

I’m not saying a man’s years of life are less valuable that a woman’s. Rather, I’m saying men and women are different biologically, and it’s important to be reminded of those differences and to account for them in our decision-making.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 08:44 PM
-7

Because judges are supposed to sentence based on the individual characteristics of the defendant. I’m just saying it’s a factor, and it’s why certain punishments may be harsher depending on a defendant’s sex.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 08:25 PM
-1

Hey! Can you explain what you mean?
/r/MensRights02/06/22 05:55 PM
-14

Thanks for replying! To push back, I’d say that any 50 year old committing a crime is more culpable of the crime than a 20 year old, regardless of gender. Further, I don’t think a 50 year old man is analogous to a 20 year old woman. Biologically speaking, a woman’s window of opportunity to have children is much smaller than a man’s. In your example, the man had 30+ years of time to have children yet he didn’t. Therefore, I don’t think he should get the benefit. That is an interesting point, and …
/r/MensRights02/06/22 03:38 PM
-25

Hey! In response to the issue of men getting sentenced to more prison time than women for the same crime, I want to first say that I agree it’s a fact. Women, on average, do receive less prison time than men for the same crime. That said, I don’t know if that’s a fair comparison. I think it’s worse for a 20 year old women sentenced to 20 year imprisonment versus a 20 year old man with the same sentence. There are biological differences between men and women, and one of the key differences is the…
/r/MensRights02/06/22 02:48 PM
4

Good point!
/r/MensRights02/06/22 02:01 PM
2

😂
/r/MensRights02/06/22 12:57 PM
-4

Hey! I’m still learning about a lot of this (so someone correct me if I’m wrong or refute me), but don’t women lose money during pregnancy and generally never recover those lost wages independently? Like, a women who has three kids with her husband may lose an entire cumulative year in work experience which will make it harder to attain employment, raises, or promotions. If they divorce, isn’t alimony supposed to help fill that gap? Edit: I think it’s call the “child penalty”. Again, please corr…
/r/MensRights02/06/22 12:51 PM
3

What?
/r/MensRights02/06/22 12:42 PM
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