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I think thats more of a sourgrapes + using High n count as hueristic for fidelity crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:04 AM
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Why would you want to inflict yourself on someone who doesnt wants you there? That is the messaging men receive, all of our lives. Mean while we get no indications that we are wanted on an indiidual level. Approaching anyone especially in the face of disinterest feels predatory. This is not about feeling valued or sexy, Its about feeling at least welcome to try. That is the bare minimum. Twisting it into some kind of weird entitlement is disgusting behavior and slopistic to the nth degree. By yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:59 AM
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Thats pretty short sighted. Is an abused woman wrong for expecting abuse from all men and putting up with it in subsequent relationships as something that just is? Is it her fault that she gets abused repeatedly does she deserve it? As a man of below average confidence, I dont look for signs of interest in women becasue the last 30 years simply dont bear it out. It has not rained in the attacama for 50years. Are you gonna bet on a rainfall this year? Even if I do see it, women have this thing ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:53 AM
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why are you horrified reading any of this? Seems like most women and men agree that women simply dont like men, or atleast dont like them as much as men like women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:44 AM
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Ok. Thank you for explaining. I understand what you are getting at now. I am not saying that female desire is like this. I think they are socialised to fear and be wary of men. Both lesbian women and sraght women have reasons to fear men, but ths is overblown especially in the west, resulting in a state where heterosexual women put no effort into approaching or showing desire for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:28 AM
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! is a good argument 2 I would have agreed with if we were 50 years in the past. Maybe in conservative or biblebelt areas and nations. Even in liberal areas there is a lack of representation of average men within female desire
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:23 AM
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I might be dumb compared to you, I don't get any of this. If there is somewhere that explains your POV better or if you could I would be greatful However My argument is that social influence changes the expression of biological sexuality. I think women are socialized to not only be wary off but to also dislike men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:09 AM
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I get your POV but I think there is value is distinguishing differet kinds of love for what you do I suppose loving someone for what they do is a quid pro quo where when the quota is not met the payment is not made. Loving someone for who they are is more like an alyship where we dont expect the worst of them out of a misstep, and even offer our shoulder to carry them forward your opinion on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:05 AM
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perhaps we would not be suspicious if it was normalised for women to express interest. I mean even from my own experience my only relationship was with a girl who made the first move. She fucked my friend though so it might not be a good example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:03 AM
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If we make the hypothesis that women are repulsed by men - then it follows that they wil be more free with women if they are lesbians. The ones who are heterosexual might want to have sex with men on a bilogical basis, but socially they dont like men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:58 AM
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That or the dynamic of heterosexual dating is such that woman end up not liking men, or not having to show any overt displays of attraction to men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:57 AM
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I honestly expected a show of force disagreeing with me. I wanted to be told I was wrong. It seems What I said was more realistic than I thought it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:55 AM
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There is a limit I am sure between loving someone for what they do vs loving someone for who they are. Example, If I love my nurse wife because of her spirit of self sacrifice I would probably be upset at her taking up shifts during covid and put a strain on the marriage. But I would still love her because her doing that is what I loved about her inthe first place. I suppose loving someone for what they do is a quid pro quo where when the quota is not met the payment is not made. Loving someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:53 AM
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I believe that love requires a strong base of desire and common experiences. Anything other than that runs the risk of - I love you but not in love with you, or I never loved you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:46 AM
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Please stop. Its defined as aspiratonal by women. The redpill just takes ques from that. If being a hobo could get better results casually and relatonshipwise there wold be an entire subreddit in trp called HOBOmaxxing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:44 AM
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Doesnt refute my argument that women are repulsed by men, If that wasnt the case we would see similar behaviour in heterosexual dating. We do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:41 AM
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Probably. I would be heartbroken because I love her. Its not that I am with her because I get sex, its is that I have sex with her because I like her. Neverthelessn eventually I would have to come to terms with the fact that she doesnt love me the way I need, break up and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:38 AM
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You can be cautious and express desire. Gay men face far more danger from the men they approach and society at large, they still do it. They seem to want to be loved even if it is for one night more than they want to stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:35 AM
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As in you agree with what I said or You can relate to the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:33 AM
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literally al of blue pill. what you said seems like something the redpill would say. There is no such thing as love in your world is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:33 AM
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Damn site better than for what they do imo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:25 AM
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I've heard more women say they prefer average-sized cocks than large cocks. Personally I think they're all fine and you're making a big deal out of nothing. Its not described in aspirational terms. Dating someone who is well endowed, has height >6ft and is successful is described as aspirational. Sure average men can get into relationships, but I suspect the attraction is more gradual and akin to familial love rather than raw desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:16 AM
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We are only 19 comments in but most seem to disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:13 AM
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Are you implying that I should kill myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:12 AM
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We have a lot to fear from each other. Men can fuck women up directly - but most arent inclined to. In fact I would argue that society as it stands today incentivizes men to protect women and children. Women ca fuck up men by mobilizing social support and using other men. However it would take truly egregious action to be serious enough for that to happen. What I am saying is that we both have our claws and fangs, we can respect each other and coexist. Thats what we have been doing for all of hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:11 AM
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NGL you come of at best as a Man hating liberal, all men including gays, or worse, an OG conservative. Secondly, women do a piss poor job of showing that they even like average men. If more bisexual men go for men, its simply because women look and behave as if they dont need men. Gay men have a plethora of terminology where they describe the various archetypes they find attractive - Hunk, bear, otter, twink etc. They by their description of each other show the wide variety of men in their cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:04 AM
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What other way is there to rid the world of men? Oh... I see its a pipes dream with no way to achieve it. Go ahead and cry in a cave somewhere at how its so inconvenient for you that we wont just disappear for your sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:54 AM
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How would you acheive it without killing us? Do you think I would offer up my neck to someone who actively despises me. Far more likely to slaughter them than die for them. Or did you interpret that to be me saying 'come jump on my dick'? That speaks more to the pathology of your mind than mine. By the way - why call me incel? Just because you got fucked by your boyfriend and I use my hand does not make you a better person than me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:49 AM
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Question is if women will ever join the armed forces in enough numbers to make a difference? And if the decision is to mobilise now to create an anti men arm, I doubt that men are gonna just lie down at let t happen. Until you come to a epoch of technology where battle AI makes a novice equal to a trained soldier, this will not happen. And even then women will need to fund this somehow. The one surefire way for women to subjugate men would be through economic dominance. I mean infiltrating and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:46 AM
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By all means, come at us. It may not go they way you want it to though. But it will give me the excuse I need to wreak havoc on the way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:35 AM
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It is a chalenge to her view. She seems to believe that women don't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:26 PM
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Male obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:24 PM
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Must be a difference i how women and men veiw the world. I knew that she meant being open to the possibility of sex and not shut it down rather than just lay down and spread your legs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:16 PM
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Then dont tell us this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:12 PM
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The way courting exists rigth now is pretty man dependent. No shit men stop putting in effort, a relationship is supposed to be for both people. You cant be a dancing monkey forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:10 PM
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Agreed. We are the defacto enforcers of the world. Socialisation also plays a heavy part in the danger men posses to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:08 PM
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Technically speaking being shorter is better in the longterm. Other than the reduced energy requirement they are also less prone to heart attack, abdominal anuerysms and strokes. the heart has to work harder to circulate blood in a tall person. However these advantages only manifest in the longterm, ie you get to enjoy your retierment rather than die within 5 years of it. in the short term, being tall is a huge bost socially and in terms of fighting ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:03 PM
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This was a very new realisation was it? I realize that insights like this can be exciting when you first grasp them, as if you have found out a secret of the world. Anyway? do you seriously believe that women have no role i any of this? Do u=you really think that womens attraction is more due o Woowoo feels that to any external signs of success and status. Dont kid yourself. When 20% of women have a crush upon a D&D nerd I will believe you and the implicit virtue of female attraction. Until then…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:55 PM
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Yeah well what can you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:16 AM
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Like I said, Your opinion of me is immaterial. If I wanted an self assessment I would ask that girl I helped out or my friends. It is weird though. I thought helping women avoid rapists was a good thing to do? or is it that misogynists shouldn't help women who are about to to be harmed? Not gonna make an iota of difference to how I live my life, I just want to understand this ass backward viewpoint. Even if I am repulsive it should be preferable to me doing nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:59 AM
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You mean insulted?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:28 AM
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She called you an incel because she had immediate insight into your underlying pathology. Because it’s obvious. The fact that you won’t see multiple women telling you point blank they know you hate them as a huge red flag to do some deep ass self work is sad, but utterly predictable Fucking lol. Then why does every women I talk to have stories of being in abusive relationships. If they can magically detect misogyny then that rapist should never have been in a relationship. Yet that guy is runnin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:23 AM
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Being attractive enough to get sex also gets you in the door for a relationship. there needs to be hope that a relationship you want is attainable Its better to engage with casual sex and know you dont want it never having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:51 AM
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If this isnt Femcel content I dont know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:41 AM
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I guess thats why the girl I warned about her boyfriend being a sexual predator called me an incel. She could sense the misogyny in me and it was so strong that it obscured her misogyny detector from seeing her boyfriend for the scumbag he truly was. If someone needs me to be of a certain social level to even try to help them, perhaps they dont deserve to be helped?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:40 AM
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I did. And my reaction to it is much the same as womens reaction to redpill men, MRAs and incels. If you believe that Redpill makes men unhappy then I submit to you that the women on TwoX are just as unhappy. They took the redpill and see oppression everywhere. They wholesale believe that there are no good men and all men are at best only tolerable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:34 AM
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Its not. Its a logical and emotional result. I think the biggest thing that unsuccessful men lack is hope. Hope that all that struggle all the rejection will end with finding someone who can appreciate and even love us for who we are. Being rejected all your life without any kind of respite except that which is self imposed leads to nihilism. A belief that this will not change. The general discourse of how women see men also affects that. I dont think I have ever seen women express admiration or…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:30 AM
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They dont. Some might but they are the kind you should avoid. Most will feel revulsion because the man thought they were in the same league. The implication threatens the value she ascribes herself. Hence the relatively common place cruelty that underlines some rejections. Would you consider it cruel to crush a roach in your house? In their minds cruelty to your lessers is not cruelty at all. Its the dynamic underlying short confident men being seen as arrogant or as having a Napoleon complex. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:08 AM
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lady, i can stitch back a guys face back on after an accident, I break bad news to people all the time. I wrestle patients who have delirium every week. I threw an unreasonable relative out of ward when they hit my nurse. I dont need your certification to know that I am brave It does not compare to the dread of being misconstrued or unfairly characterized by women for just talking to them. Some of them sent boyfriends or fiances after me when I wasn't even approaching them romantically. The plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:23 PM
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Key difference here is that no one in wider society expects you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:21 PM
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They can just straight up lie
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:36 PM
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why don't you recruit your successful buddies to post here buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:35 PM
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Admit it, you wanted some version of this covered in denial t smirk at and call him out on it. The fact that he came ot and said it ruined some of your pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:32 PM
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TIL you don't understand the concept of something being relative to something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:30 PM
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Hahahahaah this is amazing. You just made an argument that cant be refuted. I could just mock your concept of what it means to lure. But that would be the tacit acknowledgement that I have never known wha it is like when a woman gives out indications that she is interested... Basically saying that I am so unattractive that I have never experienced it in the last 30 years of my life. So fucking hilarious. Cant stop laughing here. You have just given a ringing endorsement for blackpill. 30 years w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:20 PM
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relatonships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:19 AM
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You are right it is shallow. If it wasn shallow I probably would have comparable experiences in my youth. And without those experiences to mature you expect me to be not shallow any more? Perhaps you are expecting too much of me. If it takes women to become mature to want to be with me, I would much rather marry my hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:03 AM
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I am using a term that describes me adequately. I am fine with having a healthy relationship. I just think that having that with a person who has drastically different views on life and sex will reduce the chances to a certain degree. Its like expecting a conservative and liberal to get married and live happily ever after. Its can happen but it is very very unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:58 AM
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Its a funny thing to tell us that we imagine what we see. But sure, I can accept being a beta bux as long as the woman I am with is at the top of her game and giving me her best. Thats what I am doing as well so it is only fair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:22 AM
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Agreed. NO single moms, bartenders, baristas, college students. I dont want her to have a job, I want her to have a career. And if she even suggest SAHM I will divorce her. I am that controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:14 AM
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No one called the cops. But trying to interact with women has been an L or me most of the time. I don't do cold approaches, I have attempted warm approach maybe 10 times over the last 10 years that went poorly. Rejected by all of them. 3 of the were OK, I am friendly with all 3 of them. Although we did try to be friends I am ony good friends with one of them. Genuinely good person The rest of them became manipulative after the fact, in minor cases they treated me with disrespect in soe cases the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:08 AM
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agreed that seems to be the expectation within a reationship also true, femal infidelity seems to be seen as something worse than male infidelity. A POV I dont endorse but see implied in general society, only just though. this has been largely done away with. If there are any expectations then they exit from the older generation to the younger one. In interpersonal relationships it seems more like a mutual agreement thing. In cases where one person expects it off the other it seems to be an even…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 11:11 AM
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This is not gonna lead to the answers you think it will. If it falls to men to make sure that no women are harmed the result is gonna be restrictions of womens freedom. When my class mate complained about a stalker from the near by slum the Superintendent responded with instituting a curfew in the womens hostel from 6pm onwards. any latecomers were asked to inform their parents. The girls were 17 -21 years old. This was a logical move to ensure that the female students would be herded together t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 10:59 AM
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The fuck do I care. They cheated. Thats all that matters. If there is a problem you deal with it together or you break up. end off. This passive aggressive cheating bulshit implies that women have o self control or regulation. If anything you are proving Redpill right when they say women should be treated like the oldest teenager in the house. And they absolutely do cheat when they are horny. You are trying to frame woman's sexuality as something more moral than mens. Its not. A cheater is justa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:18 AM
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Wondering why you are not enough can lead you down terrible paths.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:15 AM
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I dont think women are ever gonna come out and say that he was not fit as areason to reject him. They are gonna claim the lack of a spark or something as vague. But as he is in shape, more girls will probably attest to a spark in their interactions with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:13 AM
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Virgins were Virgins before they were misogynists. Not a great argument. Similar to stating that the poor deserve to be poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:02 AM
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Cause idiots like me need it. Whats the alternative listening and believing the moral psyop that society pushes down my throat? 30 years bro... its not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:02 AM
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Please stop. this is bullshit take that shit to relationship advice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:01 AM
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In your case specifically its best not to over think it. Say and behave how you used to be before the red pill. As a good looking guy you can afford to appear to simp a little. Girls will forgive and tolerate the behavior from you. Just maintain the awareness for red flags and don't tolerate them. Think of yourself as the king. Your pleasure and power is whats the most important to you. But being satisfied that you have it there is no reason to not be benevolent to the people who come to you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 08:00 AM
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Not just mine though. Lots of similar minded people who listen to inane drivel and just accepted it whole sale. Leading to us not having any kind of experience approaching or initiating relationships. We vent? we are incel. We try to learn game? We are PUA incels. All in all every way we can be called hateful and deserving of our isolation, we are painted with. All because we wanted to be good men and chose to listen to women AND BELIEVE THEM. So no. No sympathy from me. The non probleatic men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:00 PM
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Well they seem to be able to tell 100% of the time that I was terrible. SO much so that I had to spend a literal year to figure out if I was truly toxic or not. A year I spent in relative isolation and introspection (lets be real, its not like others are gonna help me) figuring out if my existence is somehow harmful. Listening to women with any degree of seriousness without critiquing the hyperbolic language has fucked up my life. SO yeah with such a high false positive rate, I expect you to kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:36 PM
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Doesnt change the fact that she got 70 matches. Thats power no human should be allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:24 PM
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Men dont simp for them because they are rich. They sip for them because they are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:20 PM
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Beg to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:17 PM
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Idk. They tell me and men like me that we are single because women can sense somehow that we are trash... So like use that. The internal detectors of misogyny. I am just going off what I have been told
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:15 PM
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I wonder why women are not the bulk of counter terrorism task force seeing as they have the bad and fake men detectors in their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:46 PM
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They(society) want to absolve themselves of any responsibility of getting the man to the point of reacting adverse;y. When they do react poorly they call it a moral failing on the art of the guy. Its like beating a dog and getting surprised when it bites. Plus its an easy way to pull a short guy down to "to know his place". A man that short who expresses a modicum of confidence and self confidence will be targeted by societal shit tests. Women will do this to short and ugly men - "who do you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:38 PM
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She fucked my friend and rubbed it in my face, because I wasn't ready to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 12:34 PM
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I am a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:52 PM
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Because people are people. Suppose you want a woman to dominate you in bed. How many of them are going to be able to do it without breaking scene, how many would be turned off by just attempting it? An advanced enough AI with enough material culd deliver a convincing performance each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:50 PM
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Dude look through my post history. I am a dude. For better or for worse I side with men more often than women, just based on gut instincts. This is just the culmination of what I see as womens ever inflating standards and their need to conform to a greater narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:45 PM
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I predict that AI will be indistinguishable from humans in the next 30 years. After that imperfect men will lose to the perfect image of a man you can craft. Any normal relationship after that will feel lacking compared to a partner who can literaly anticipate your needs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:35 PM
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All it need s is for the general culture to wholesale condemn men as trash and not worth being in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:07 PM
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AI will need to adopt more and more human things. The first and more readily acceptable thing woud be to interact via a voice to text and a text to voice function. A physical bot would take a century worth of research to be possible, but creating an AI that would approxiamte a human consciousness will happen within our lifetimes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:06 PM
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More and more of the functions women need men for are being done by women. The more labour intensive parts will simply be handed over to the hired help
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:04 PM
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Its not yet, but it will be. Give it 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:03 PM
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Where or not its healthy doesnt matter. Its whether or not it functions like a relationship. And in that movie it absolutely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:58 PM
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Thats true if you feeli like you are controling the responses. Have you seen "Her". The AI doesn't feel like a program controlled by the protagonist, it feels like an organically growing being. It feels like a person who falls in love with the Man. He feels it too. Thats what it will look like. People who make impassioned speeches about how it is just a software that cant feel, will argue for the person-hood of these AI because they will feel that they9AI) are beings rather than things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:50 PM
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Birthing will be the key factor I think that decides whether or not it will be a successful revolution to how relationships occur between the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:39 PM
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People tend to abhor what they cant control. We go for the thing that is less risky. The advent and boom of online dating was like that. Women can now screen men without every leaving the safety of her home. Guys could approach women without ever risking an in person rejection. When it started off people saw online dating as something losers used. Now it is one of the most common ways to do so to the poit that it is nearly a faux pax to approach someone in public. People will be taken in by how …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:24 PM
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All the imperfections and problems of dating a real human being who has their own priorities and desires will be magnified when compared to an AI relationship ​ Once women go to AI, they will experience a relationship where they are in control but the Ai can give the illusion of being dominated, where it intuitively gets that she is not 'in the mood' and will never push for sex when she isn't. Angst filled discussions on how he or she doesn't feel desired will be Women who are increasingly burnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:02 PM
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Well they shouldn't be saying shit like want to date someone like me. I wrongfully thought I had a shot, an understandable confusion.( I am "someone like me") And it seems that they weren't really my friends if they chose to mock me for it. After all I looked past the fact that they were dating the guys who made my life difficult. I clearly valued our friendship more than they did
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:26 AM
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I dont know what your username means I just know that 9/10 its not worth it to engage with a comment made y that account, just like right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:44 PM
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Dont care. I just know that it is you. For the 3rd time do you know what learned helplessness is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:37 PM
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Its your name no? I normally just respond to the comment. But when I see your username I just know its gonna be a discussion where you will be in bad faith and just fucking obtuse. Most of the time its not even worth the effort. I find myself thinking a few times before posting. And do you know what learned helplessness is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:31 PM
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I was teased and bullied for a while. Being shorter than average was a huge impediment both in terms of my ability to defend myself and in terms of my attractiveness to the opposite sex. I fought back of course - it only started to go my way towards the tail end of high-school when I just stopped fighting fair. ( I had odd notions of honour and fairplay back then) I spent my time with books, quizes and debate clubs because I could excel there. No scholarships though. With women I was initially s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:26 PM
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He wanted to fuck and was not fucking. I wanted to fuck and was not fucking. ergo you are so fucking wrong its hilarious I garauntee you he and I have gone through more rejection than the average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:04 PM
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Fucking lol on the open men being non-misogynistc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:03 PM
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Do you seriously believe this? Nah never mind just saw your username. Ofcourse you do. DO you know what learned helplessness is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:01 PM
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Many points of contention here. 1. the men who come to redpill in early to late 20s were blue pill idealists. For the most part they are decent guys, all they need is to learn a litte game and to adopt a more unflapable mindset. Organic changes that can come to them with age, but can be speed run through if you chose to practice it intentionally. 2. The superficial solutions are the best - it improves the chances of the men catchig someones favourable attention. What is it that women tell men he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:58 PM
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My first critique is that life, especially a wide variety of experiences fosters growth. Med school and post graduation gave me that. It just simultaneously gave me more experiences along the way that made me put my gaurd up against women as well. My second critique is that being a misogynist might be OK depending n what is classed as misogyny. In my case a general apathy towards woman kind while being to judge situations on an individual basis doesnt fit the bar. But I am unwilling to have that…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:50 PM
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You implied that I wasted my time wallowing. I did wallow, I just simultaneously went through med school and post graduation. You can do both. Not as fun but it was an effective distraction
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:15 PM
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I find that people by themselves are not special and replaceable. Time spent and experiences shared makes them irreplaceable. So yeah Emily has perky tits, but Jessica may have stayed the night with me when my dad died, or called me the best boy she has ever met while recovering from general anesthesia. No shot I am gonna give up all that for pornhub tits
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:48 PM
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I mean I am a surgeon now. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:45 PM
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Thats what dating is for isnt it? to see if we can have a future together? If she doesn't find me sexually attractive at all there was no hope to begin with. And I would much rather not have a relationship develop over negotiated desire
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:24 PM
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I try to see it as giving women the opertunity to see if they would like someone like me in their lives. Assuming that they have nothing to gain from interacting with me is how I have been single and a virgin all these years. Mindset matters a lot you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:10 PM
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Easy to not be desperate since you don't ask men out. Freqently I am surprised by the depth of people. Women who I ended up in love or was just friends with who actively used me. Women who I wrote off as just terrible who showed moments of great compassion that just took my breath away. I happen to give people a lot more leeway to show me who they are now. to call that result arrived at after years of life , desperation is more than just a little reductive. Not to mention narrow minded
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:57 PM
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To be honest nothing ruined my personality faster tan being told that i was a virgin because I was a terrible person. leads me to having thoughts like - "Do I hate women? Maybe I do hate women, apparently they can sense that shit. But I still do good things. I help people where I can without expectation etc etc " after a few months "Maybe its OK to be a misoginist" a few months after that " being a misogynist doesnt make you a terrible human being" And my persona favourite " Just because you got…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:37 PM
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I would have.. maybe 8 years ago. But I am so done with bullshit. So new paradigm, I dont care if women empathise wth my situation - they dont obviously, I dont emathise with their problems either. ​ have difficulty talking to the boss to get a raise? worried about your boyfriend spouting andrew tate? worried about fertility as you are 30 and have found no one to date? --- whats any of that got to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:23 PM
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We are told that everyday. you cant expect us to just take it without a whimper of protest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:18 PM
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you do realise the irony in this situation? He is using the shaming playbook women use on men when they are upset about their lack of dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:13 PM
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Nah man. I just don't want women to imply that I am a terrible person because I struggle to be in any relationship. I fully recognise that I can be a decent person and not be owed sex. I just dont want to be called a misogynist for not getting laid, or having a problem with not getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:07 PM
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Probably not the same men. Probably not the same mindframe even with the same man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:05 PM
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Asking you on a date is not choosing you. Continuing to date you after knowing more abut you is the choosing part. You are conflating the two to inflate your value - "this guy wants to be with me" vs "this guy wants to get to know me" Look down on mens methods as being more nefarious and untrustworthy than they are. When men approach and talk to you, you are not special. You become special by spending time with you learning who you are and sharing experiences and life events with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:58 PM
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Probably. Depends on why I am with Jessica.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:55 PM
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Tell that to the women who dislike virgin late bloomers. The ability to get sex is the proxy for what women see as a well adjusted human being. You are probably right in that men stack up bodies for themselves, but women do define men according to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:44 AM
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Fair criteria would be _ history of being abusive and cheating, differing political veiws, different way of relating to sex (special vs recreational activity) Criteria that reveals insecurity or some kind of incompetence in the person setting those standards - Height, Economic status Bodycount Education level provided they are comparable ( not asking women to marry Tarzan or men to marry Poccahontas )
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:10 AM
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you are so cool gymbronyc senpai
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:27 PM
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Hyper-agency is when both you and the world believes that everything that happens to you is your fault and responsibility. Even if it is not your fault,it is your responsibility to get over it and get back to your baseline. Is it healthy? No. Is there any other way to live that would keep us sane? No. Can you imagine being scorned and riddiculed everytime you ask for help? If you are a man you don't need to, or at least you can imagine it quite well. Hypoagency when you and the world believes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:25 PM
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Hard disagree. Feminism is women advocacy movement - period. Can they help men? Sure. But t is always accidental as we are never their primary focus. IF there was a course of action to bring about greater equality of the sexes in a way that men would be helped and women would be set back, Feminism will never advocate for it. Feminism to a man is much like the rains to a farmer. He has no control over when it happens and too much can cause him irrevocable harm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:19 PM
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You kind of have to be to do anything. If you want to approach any woman for anything you have to believe that you are a catch atleast superficially. If men acted exactly as if they knew their place ( womens perception of it anyway) most relationships simply wouldn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:19 AM
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What delusional story? this is our lived experience. Life lets us know that we are burdens and that our job is to reduce that burden on everyone else - exceptions are attractive men and men born to fathers with generational wealth. Is that so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:11 AM
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You get a vibe for it. Facial attractiveness is not 100% predictive but after spending tie with someone you get an inkling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:08 AM
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Didn't have many friends and my father was trying to recoup losses in bussiness. As far as peers are concerned, I saw the way they treated women and saw it as immoral and manipulative. Didnt realise that unlike me they were ahead of the curve
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:06 AM
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No many women want to go at raising a child alone. Single mothers do exist but thats something that happens to them rather than something they overtly chose
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:03 AM
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A fair number of us have not been in relationships. Most of us probably have been in bad ones. I dont understand the things you are talking about. I have spent 30 years alone on this world - I take care of myself when i am sick, I don't talk for days at a time, I make my own coffee in the morning. I watch movies alone, I laugh to myself while reading reddit, I sleep by my self, I haven't cried in a decade, and I don't have the ability to be shit, the world corrects me quickly at that point and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:41 PM
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Definitely will once I hit retirement - Russian roulette seems fun
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:25 PM
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I fucking hate how easy women have it. I try to think about it as my life having more virtue because I struggled for everything (relatively) and that I get to have the dubious honor of supporting my wife whoever she may be. But fuck that - thats just moralising c*pe Just like I felt talking to an escort who was making 350,000 pound/year, money that I dont think I will ever be able to even accumulate in my life time. Even if I did, is it worth the blood sweat and tears? Envy is an ugly feeling. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:12 PM
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Do you consider the way they live something to be emulated? Do these men paying for her hamper their living situation by paying for them? I would much rather die a virgin than deal with someone like them and i am a 30 year old dude, so this is as desperate for sex and validation as i will get. Even if that gets too much I would probably get gonadal blockers before it gets that far
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:05 PM
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That doesnt make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:03 PM
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I did. My mom and my sister assured me of it. They even told me that a oy like me while not exciting in my teens and 20s would be prime relationship material in my 30s and that that was a good thing. I fucking believed all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:02 PM
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This is exactly what the wall is. Well not exactly. Its not like women ever have it harder than men to have sex. They dont become 30 and suddenly acquire wrinkles on their ass. They are forced to reccon with the fact that if they want a child, they need to chose their man now. And that forced reser makes them look for men who will stay _ beta. This the the detestable wall. This is noot something that happens to women, its something they chose. It is the bane of a beta males existence (I dont mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:00 PM
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I dont understand. Are you thinking from their POV or are you saying it as a general truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:55 AM
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In this context I was equating actions that lead to a more stable society as good. But you are right in that what is good and evil is largely contextual and further drives the dynamic of men acting as enforcers for society at large. The men in Afghanistan bringing the entire country back to the middle ages is one such example. They are hindering economic prosperity and abusing their women. But in their minds the men are protecting their society and their way of life from the infidel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 10:32 AM
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For real though..... Gotta get that after gym protein somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:01 AM
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You deserve the world you live in
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 08:52 AM
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Its not an ether or situation. I have had unrequited loves. Thats basically been my entire love life. Once I confess my feels, they draw away or seek to take advantage of my emotions. They were unwilling to be my girlfriend and also not great friends. One girl how ever shot me down and chose to maintain that friendship with me. I could genuinely feel her care. She found a guy she is gonna marry and shit is hard sometimes. Hearing her talk about her sex life is not a good time in anyway shape or …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:58 PM
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That maybe the reality we are dealing with today, but that was not the case years ago. If anything the left could have prevented the recruitment of young men into the red pill by adressing their concerns with compassion rather than woke scolding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:59 PM
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That behavior needs to be modeled. And the behaviour that is modeled needs to be seen as successful If kindness, humility, openness and empathy for others were seen as attractive then Mr Rodgers would have been a sex symbol. Most men dont really want to have harems, they just want options when it comes to the person they want to spend their lives with, much like women. The current meta seems to show that the more you are like Andrew Tate, the more control you have over your own dating life. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:50 PM
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It probably will. You need to look for it though I watch destinys content but he seems pretty out of touch with dating as it stands today. I think NSE has a better grasp on the situation overall
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:27 PM
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MAny Reasons : Dating is racist - Most women in the west would not see foreign men as a good prospect to have a romantic relationship with. As per preference, whites are preferred to blacks who are preferred to Asians (South and east) Traditionalism - women in the west are liberal. They will not see the benefits of marrying a man who is more conservative in outlook because of where he is from. The man himself would be averse to settling down with a western woman as he likely to face significant …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:12 PM
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Wouldnt it be better to have 'fuck you ' money rather than marry into "Fuck You money" WheN I think of my future, I imagine a standard of living that I can achieve with my own paycheck. I dont see the salary of my potential SO to contribute to that. THat allows me to chose a partner based on who she is rather than how much she earns. When I think of my potential child, I want him/her to have all the qualities of my partner. Then only thing i feel entitled enough to add to the child that is mine …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:03 PM
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In the context of giving and receiving. Not when always giving. This shouldnt be controvertial
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:59 PM
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The only video that came from a leftist youtuber that perfectly manages to describe and address the situation that men find themselves in was Macabre Storytelling. (Contrapoints too - she adressed the topic in a compassionate way but offeers no real solutions) The man is a content creator that dedicates himself to movies and series and he made a whole-ass video on Masculinity, male beauty standards, dating and redpill alure . He did it with such panache that it seemed like that was his topic of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:55 PM
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I did find him at around the same time. I had some predilections that I needed advice on. He gave it but there was no compassion to it. It was a mix of positive nihilism and a very pullyourself up by your bootstraps mentality in it. Plus being from where I am the advice was not very applicable. Plus he seemed very performative. It was like he was giving advice to men while there was a background quartet of women going 'Preach' and 'Damn straight'. Advce that came form a place of irritation than …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:39 PM
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Its not like I am necessarily against the left either. The conventional trappings of what it means to be a man on the right seems pretty stifling. I absolutely do not want to be a 'traditional man'. But I am pretty sure they were the only space that treated men as if they werent defective somehow. And for some weird reson people like not being treated as if they are defective
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:35 PM
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The thing is, i am sure that a lot of men wanted more left leaning effective dating advice. It just doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:47 AM
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Tell me you didn't read the post, while not telling me you didn't read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:43 AM
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The world does accommodate you. Moreso than me. Being shy doesnt discount from your femininity. It does discount from my masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:41 AM
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But then why shame timid men. WHat is wrong with being shy. You are overlooking a whole ass person for just being shy. As a guy thats insane
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:20 AM
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No. I am arguing that women should select the guys they want, from the jump. Not wait to be approached like a pillow princess. In todays meta the general consensus is that a guy approaching women is harassing her. Milder men like me have avoided doing so because we were raised to believe that it was the worst thing we could have done. Stands to reason that the ones who do approach don't see it and never saw it as an infringement of boundaries. The confident guys you love so much could very well …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:18 AM
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Thats the point. They don't know. they don't get the implication. They think that beng loved for what they do is the same as being loved for who they are because they have never experienced the later. In my case i have never experienced either of them so how m I supposed to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:06 AM
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Because the inexperienced guy has no idea what a relationship is supposed to be. He has no idea what true desire is, so he might just accept good friend energy because thats the closest thing to love that he has experienced. And the woman for her part might just love him but not be "in love " him. SO that situation gets fucked far moe easily down the line with wanning libido I am that 30 yr old. While i really want to be loved, being loved for what I do for her is what i am more likely to get. ​…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:12 PM
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They did. One guy took up driving, the other guy learnt how to use firearms. Didn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:37 AM
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That because none of the major political parties have been able to weaponize it. of the religious groups. And for the average indian enough pressure is exerted by their own communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:36 AM
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People have killed themselves and others over it, so it seem to be pretty fucking important no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:33 AM
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Well arent you blessed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:32 AM
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It takes a small amount of self brainwashing on your part but it is possible
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:30 AM
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Unironically, I agree with OP. Men have a lot to learn from women. Hyper-gamy especially. We should only marry someone women who make the same or more than us. And we should have made as much f our assets before the marriage as possible so that they dont become communal property. Kindness? Empathy? Good person? what kind of weak sauce criteria d=was I hold women to in the past? I am only going for Business graduates, Finance majors and doctors now
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:21 AM
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Just woke up today and decided " I am gonna shift goalposts today
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:16 AM
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Not only rape victims, but anyone for any reason. THe only restriction is that in 2nd trimester you need 2 doctors to concur that she needs it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:13 AM
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Being egalitarian doesn't mean women are automatically respected. Only women would equate apathy for misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:11 AM
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Because that selects for guys who she is mostly meh about. also selects for guys who dont really care if she is comfortable or not with him approaching. This general lack of care and selfishness being something she will complaint about in the future. but hey man, let her keep picking through her self described trash heap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 01:03 AM
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You see when you are starving, food becomes really fucking important for some reason. Its kinda annoying you know, like i would love to observe Ursa majors transit across the sky in the night, but instead I just curl up in the desert and try to tighten the belt around my stomach to stop feeling so hungry. How stupid of me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:59 AM
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Most virgins are virgins before they become misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:49 AM
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He got it partially right. THey are insecure but in their femininity. They worry about hooking up or going out with shorter guys because they want to feel feminine in relation to their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:43 AM
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Mistakes happen. They tell you their story, show you the bruises. and you feel their pain. They hold your hand and tell you that they need you. In a life where no one wanted you for anything, being used seems kie a good thing. An then when you are not the man they think you are, set one toe out of line, they sleep with your friend. and the you realize that you were the idiot and maybe the other guy had the right idea
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:36 PM
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There is no motivation to pursue advancement. No moivation to appear important to the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:02 AM
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But thats what PUA does though, when you take away the peacocking, mystery method, and the NPL. Its what is addressed by making a 100 cold approaches in a mall. its what is adressed by the conversationsal ins and out. Initially it is robotic but overtime it is more natural. What I just described is no different from what you just said
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:20 AM
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So? Find another strat. General conversation is a skill where you learn to add things to it in a way can make it engaging or lackluster. People who lack that base can learn it by artificially creating outs an in within the conversation before the conversation occurs. Its not easy but doable. Any practice and exposure is better than none at all. A modification of the exit I mentioned would be to not leave but go back to the chair you got up from and pull out the book you were reading earlier. Ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 12:07 AM
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A quick and graceful way to exit that would be, "Nothing really, Just wanted to say that you are pretty." Pause 1 sec "Have a good nigt, OK?' and leave. Not needed if she doesn't engage
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 11:49 PM
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Must just be me then. Damn dog, I must be creepy as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:18 PM
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It gives you a script to run through, in case you are not confident. Tips on how to make things a bit easier and things to plan for and say if you run into the wall so that even if things don't go the way you want, you can disengage gracefully. I think this is good enough as a starting step
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:07 PM
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Macabre storytelling video was a master class in explaining how the left facilitated the redpill and alt right pipeline. He was also the only person to make me question the hedonistic pursuit of sex that the redpill advocates. Goated content creator.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:05 PM
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I like you. I disagree with a lot of what you are saying but I can see why and where you are coming from. I want you to consider something though. To most women, apathy feels like Misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:59 PM
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People being apathetic to men is the default. Havent you noticed. As long as we are not seen. It changes to suspicion very quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:57 PM
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It does get bandied about a lot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:55 PM
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Let it all burn down man. I want to see how far egalitarianism makes it when it offers no social buy ins for men. It would be cool observing how men react to it. Who knows maybe an agnostic order of monk hood would actually be possible
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:53 PM
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While I do certainly see the challenges men face in these days with dating, I still think it’s damaging to reduce feminism to sex and romance (since it primarily aims to eliminate violence, unequal representation, and sexual assault for women. With that being said, I think that men’s issues, such as the risk for assault, intersectional issues, and suicide, also deserve advocacy.) Its not just sex and romance though is it? Sex and romance touches upon everything that feminism has tried to affect …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:48 PM
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First of all, I want to clarify that i am not trying to attack you. I am not saying that you have implied it either. I am just acknowledging the fact that you are putting a lot of energy into your replies in order to try and make this a nuanced conversation. I love that. I will try and respond to you in kind but to do it well i will respond in a para by para basis directly. Not a style that I like because it always appears so combative. That is not the intent. I am trying to bring as much nuance…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:09 PM
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I am sure feminism can potentially help men. But they will not do so with a genuine desire to help men. It will simply be a side effect of things they do to help women. Its like trying to say that the weather helps the farmer. True. But they cant be predicted, they are random and capricious and can be destructive. The farmer has not say in any of this Feminism is just as likely to fuck men over as to help them. ​ Secondly have you ever heard feminist address men need to change? Its never told as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:21 PM
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It will more than likely be an arranged marriage. If love blooms, it will be over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:16 PM
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I am 30 year old virgin so they wouldn't want me anyway but i will try to give a coherent answer. I guess the biggest fear for someone like me is being loved for what i do instead of who I am, which is the heart of the AFBB fixation. The second is an absolute missmatch of values. I havent had any sex. I have always pursued it within the context of a relationship. I was trying to date girls with the intention of eventually marrying them. SO naturally I have a reverence for sex. Its not just sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:46 AM
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Kudos on the user name. As far as the first entire paragraph, my counter argument is that the people who sink into despair are the previously bluepilled types, like me. You genuinely buy into the messaging of feminism and egalitarianism. You trust that in a world that women approach greater equality, the metrics for getting into a relationship is purely an issue of moral character. Why did I believe that? Society runs a psy-op on us saying that women are in general just more moral than men. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:16 AM
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Nah. He was a big deal. Kids in middle school displaying misogyny. Everyone spaming Top G everywhere. For a few months he was famous as shit. In an attention economy like ours, thats impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:56 AM
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I have no relationship experience. I don't know what love feels like, i don't know what abuse looks like. All I can do is draw lines in the sand. I am doing the best I can with what I have. Women who don't want to be pumped and dumped wait for months before sex right? are they wrong in doing so? do they see men as the enemy? WHat i am attempting is much the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:40 AM
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It sure as fuck improves your chances
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:31 AM
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I mean I can see why you would think that. And it could be fun. But it wont make nerds anymore attractive. Of course there is a solid chance that you are hoping large swathes of men just die, and yes that would help the situation but lets go for a more YaYa brother hood approach
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 07:30 AM
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why? I am just being realistic here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:19 PM
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I am just protecting my interests. The process of vetting in any relationship involves figuring out if you want to be with them. All relationships involving trust are earned do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:17 PM
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I dont understand how having standards for your partners that depends upon their individual limitation is chldish at all. To me it seems more childish to hold them to arbitratry acts or number of acts that they either will or will not do. Is her worth as a partner suddenly bent if she dosent suck dick? If we are putting effort into a relationship with you its not entitlement to expect you to do the same. holding you to standards that you have established in the past is not entitlement. In fact i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:26 AM
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that is not encouraging in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:19 AM
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Thats fine. just be brutally honest. Wether or not you want to accept it, this shit is important to us. So during the talking phase or during the relationship phase just let hi know straight up " I am not like that - with you/ anymore" let him know going in rather than later on his own. If it happens down the line and the man reacts badly, i am always gonna blame the woman for not being more forthright
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:10 AM
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Women cant fathom being OK with somone who hits 6/10 of the criteria they want, simly because of the number of options they have. Ofcourse when time coes to get married or in a relationship, its any port in a storm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:06 AM
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Inwhich universe is that feminine And being totally honest - what we mean is the fashion never really matters, can be sothern gothic, kawaii, victorian etc. as long as she is reasonable competent we would be OK with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:01 AM
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mus be nice being a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:25 AM
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No you muppet Most men would accept less frequency of sex as long as they feel loved. Even if the partner is low libido ( once a week) i would probably stay as long as i am assured that thats the most enthusiam she can muster. Resenting her for it would seem .... unfair and uncooth New information that disproves this would make it seem more like manipulation. Hence the multiple stories of men who are heartbroken when they realize that what she meant by " I am not like that" meant " I am no like …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:23 AM
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Most men would accept less frequency of sex as long as they feel loved. Even if the partner is low libido ( once a week) i would probably stay as long as i am assured that thats the most enthusiam she can muster. Resenting her for it would seem .... unfair and uncooth New information that disproves this would make it seem more like manipulation. Hence the multiple stories of men who are heartbroken when they realize that what she meant by " I am not like that" meant " I am no like that anymore" …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:56 AM
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Well thats conveinient. I suspect that he needs to sustain a similar level of gestures and behaviours to keep the romance alive? But the new relationship energy fades and he has bills to pay and elderly parents to worry about and the stress of life it self. So why the hell should he do all of those things now tat they are married? after al they are in a different situation. Simple, if she dosent feel loved she is within her rights to end the relationship. this line of reasoning hold true for wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:41 AM
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It is the same to me. Lets say that a man keeps jerking off to porn to the point that he barely has sex with his wife, she is gonna feel unloved no?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:33 AM
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It was what i was looking for in the past. But as a 30 year old betabux aspirant i want a lot more. I am dating defensively after all. I must counter opportunism for opportunism. Her career, her aspirations her credit score. i will judge her on all of it. Absolutely not gonna marry a single mom. And no way in hell will i abide a SAHM. I wont judge her past. I don't care if her bodycount is in the 30s. as long as she doesnt judge me on the fact that I am a virgin. I wont ever imply that she is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:22 AM
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This is pretty great as an answer. It explains SO much. Of course this is why we are single. Its because we are manipulative and toxic. The implication being that we are all terrible people. After all only bad people are alone in dating. Women like yourself are able to sense the evil within our hearts. They couldnt possibly make mistakes. Just like the acquaintance i had who humiliated me by calling me an incel when i tred to warn her about her rapist boyfriend. Ofcourse she must have sensed my …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:07 AM
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Most men would accept less frequency of sex as long as they feel loved. Even if the partner is low libido ( once a week) i would probably stay as long as i am assured that thats the most enthusiam she can muster. Resenting her for it would seem .... unfair and uncooth New information that disproves this would make it seem more like manipulation. Hence the multiple stories of men who are heartbroken when they realize that what she meant by " I am not like that" meant " I am no like that anymore" …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:50 AM
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Is that because you have had other relationships? where your behaviour has changed over the course of your life? To a guy who hasn't had that experience you do realize that it would be impossible to understand. Is he supposed to accept her view on this matter without any pushback? Is there not a chance that she is engaging in a type of paternalism to tell him that his feelings on the matter is completely wrong. Women have a distaste for older men ( 30s) going after women in their early twenties …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:44 AM
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I really dont get this. Are women OK with being paid differently at jobs? Do they not see managers treat younger women better and get disgusted by it? SO clearly you understand on an instinctive level what seems fair and not fair. So why is it so difficult to understand that men will get upset over being treated worse? And I am not talking about the time taken to have sex from the time of first dates. It could be a metric as simple as the enthusiasum during sex or the frequency of initiation. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:05 AM
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I guess the sentiment they are trying to convey is that, for whatever reason you accepted some limitation of your partner because you liked being with them ( you are in love). but later you find out that that limitation didnt exist with past partners. You cant expect us to believe that you would be OK with it. Lets say that your love language is words of affirmation, but your boyfriend basically communicates with efficient and direct sentences. He says he loves you and sex is not bad but you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:55 AM
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