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Who are you arguing against? I don't know anyone disagreeing with you lmao. Men are overall obviously way more sex driven for both biological and cultural reasons. I actually think I had high levels of T as a teenager because I was insatiable, thought about sex every day, had multiple wanks every day, big porn consumption, slept with lots of people of any gender, but it fizzled out completely by the time I was 18. But also men change with age, my partner definitely doesn't have the libido he did…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:39 AM
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- Stability. I am a grounded person and my partner is a bit airy-fairy, so I give him a sense of home and security. I come from a more comfortable financial background so he knows he has a safety net. - Support. I provide consistent emotional support, we talk about everything, if he's going through grief or pain or illness I will rarely falter to offer strong support to him. I am way more organised than him so I also help organise his life. - Affection. We cuddle every evening and most mornings.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:03 PM
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Do you not understand what a key worker is 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:47 PM
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If you actually believe this you are exposing yourself as someone who has never been in a relationship. Men and women are both capable of being horrible in relationships. Many people find happy loving partnerships. Some don't. It's not "all relationships are awful and women are especially shallow nasty meanies" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:56 PM
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Guys can easily get vasectomies. People have autonomy over their own bodies. But a living child is created by two people and there's no way around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:50 PM
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If its casual sex women absolutely love men who can't get them pregnant. I know loads of guys who go to sex clubs etc who have vasectomies for that reason. I think men who genuinely don't want kids should just get the snip. Especially if they plan on sleeping around. You can always freeze sperm if your worried you'll change your mind. Besides, successful reversals are totally possible. Sex is something two people do, I think a decent human being cares about the person they're fucking enough to u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 02:28 PM
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Personally I don't auto hate age gaps. I was 19 dating 32, then 21 dating 45. I wasn't groomed or preyed upon. I preferred older men back then because I liked the maturity, the worship (of me haha), the comfort etc They were both lovely guys. The second one is my life long friend and ally, I still love him to pieces. BUT lots of older men are creepy about younger women, and lots of younger women are vulnerable. I am still vigilant of age gaps. I'm very suspicious of men who exclusively date youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:30 PM
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How is abortion "distressingly easy" when it's illegal in many states?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:25 PM
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My mum got pregnant twice on IUD, one of my close friends also. My best friend at school got pregnant on the pill. 1 in 100 people isn't actually great odds when you fuck a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:23 PM
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And vasectomies are the man's job 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 05:19 PM
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Question 1: In general, if you are hanging out with a guy alone in your, or his house, and he’s openly shown interest in you, are you waiting for him to make a move on you, and do you want to have sex? No. What's the context? Is he a friend? In that case I assume we're hanging out. A stranger? Definitely not. Post date? I would be flirting if I was hoping more would happen, or make a gesture. I never wait. Question 2: if you’ve been on 3+ dates with a guy, and you haven’t had sex with him yet, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 04:11 PM
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No haha I earn more, better job prospects, MY family is the wealthier one and my job has better benefits. I love him and he absolutely adores me ❤️ We make each other happy. We're very compatible. We've been together eight years, had s commitment ceremony and are about to have our first child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 09:02 PM
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Where I'm from it's actually less expensive IF it involves no skin contact. Like my friend is a dom but doesn't touch her subs without gloves. I'm sure dommes that are more skin to skin charge more. Same with the girl I know who works massage parlours, she isn't charging a crazy amount but it's HJ only.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:05 AM
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I don't escort, I'm only quoting people I knows rates, and tbf some of them only do handjobs or domming so that probably pays less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:28 PM
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It's paid better because it's more of a sexualized role as well as being irregular work. I charge only £20 per hour for fashion. Higher rates are for lingerie and artist nude. You literally get paid more for less clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 03:24 PM
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I predict it will result in a sharp increase in unhappy single men, less children and families and a greater division between genders. Women don't like it. Andrew Tate is literally a violent criminal who abuses women and we won't easily forgive his followers. I'm so lucky I have my partner, let's just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:35 PM
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Men sexualize women in every culture even where porn is banned. It's part of human nature. The problem is men hold a lot of power - especially financially. Women are just profiting where they can. I make minimum wage working as a mental health support worker. I make between £20-50 a hour as a model. If I had the inclination I could make £100-180 a hour as an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:29 PM
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"crucial" is a stretch. There are plenty of women who don't seek these qualities. I like my men soft and supple personally haha. But yeah many women dig masculinity. I think you're kinda confusing things a bit though. Women who like masculinity want a man with those traits in moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:57 PM
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The vast majority of people are not farmers though. Producing food isn't the only important skill. And women can be farmers 🤔 There are no unique special skills men have that prop society up that women don't also do. Besides, society would collapse if women stopped having babies, and that's something men definitely can't do 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:19 PM
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You're literally referring to how men offer help like "removing an animal" or basic tasks. Are they only unique skills if they are mens skills?? You're contradicting yourself hard. Even most dumbass RP men on here don't argue women have "no unique skills" compared to men. It's a stupid sentence that means nothing. Those aren't self reliance, violin is a skill of pleasure and entertainment, as is art and writing. If you don't see the importance and fundamental need for music and art in society th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 01:25 PM
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Women... Have no unique skills? My dude I am a mental health support worker and I've counselled and supported countless male friends into getting the help they need. I also am an artist, crafter, muscian, writer, cook to a semi pro level, am a skilled games master and proficient in basic DIY, wood chopping, fire making, gardening and spider catching lol. Are you from the 1950s?? Consider returning 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:46 AM
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This doesn't prove betabux because it is unanimous for most relationships. It seems to be ingrained in women's sex drives to be less excited by people they've been with long term. Maybe if anything it proves we're not naturally monogamous. My partner and I had an incredible sex life first few months to two years, because we both found each other new and exciting. We're eight years in, now we need to bring in novelty to keep the fire going. Our bedroom isn't dead, but we're both committed to keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:31 AM
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That's fair but you can't make a knowing choice and complain. I don't mean if it's a one off, cause obviously it sucks when someone manipulates or decieves you, but if you aren't learning you're making crap choices. Applies to everyone, you know. One or two mistakes, fair. Mistakes when you're young n dumb even. But there's a limit where the idiot is the common denominater and if it's you it's time to reflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:27 AM
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Only if I feel genuinely threatened. Smiling can be a "signal" of flirting, and if I am not in a safe comfortable situation I don't want to give the wrong signal. However mostly I don't feel threatened and I love sharing a smile. Often smiling with a man is mistaken as an invitation. Many times has lead to unwanted conversation or touch but normally its a risk I'm ok with. It's usually only if the man is being intimidating or I'm alone at night time that I shy away.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:48 PM
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🤨 I'm sorry you've been short changed in partners so often you are questioning if women make men cum... I don't know why anyone wants sex where their partner isn't having fun and getting off. What's the actual point. Yes I expect my partners to put effort in just like I expect of myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:39 PM
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Most women I know split bills on first dates. Maybe don't blame all women for your crappy dating/fwb choices? Like it's obviously bullshit when women for no reason expect the man to pay. I don't think in my current ltr of 8 years he paid for a single date for like... The first year?? He didn't even start getting me expensive gifts until we were at least two or three years in. My previous boyfriends have all paid for everything and spoilt me with gifts. I liked it, but my current partner didn't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:13 AM
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I mean honestly I think OLD sucks. I have never gotten lucky on there looking for other women. I find it very rarely moves to a real life date, and the real life dates never have a spark. I genuinely think it's better to meet through shared hobbies or a cool event. Buuuut I personally think if you do do OLD it's super fucking worth it to get some high quality photos, having a medium length bio that feels very honest and not contrived but isn't boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:28 AM
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If there is prolonged lack of attraction/sex coupled with no attempts to fix. We're a couple, not room mates. If communication breaks down and he is totally unwilling to try to rebuild. If his mental health is nose diving and he's refusing any help, and it lasts more than a few months. If he became unemployed and refused to look for work. I'm not a sole provider. If he didn't want children. If he expected me to do the lions share of cleaning, cooking, childcare etc unless he's doing more employe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:09 PM
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Ngl, I'm bisexual and I think women look better on OLD. Better at taking flattering photos. Better at writing bios. Usually lool like they put some effort into appearing interesting or attractive. Men are just terrible at selling themselves online. I almost wanna run a help service to sort these poor fellas out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:04 PM
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Chronic shyness is massively underrated as a huge blockage to dating. It's also really fucking hard to overcome. It's a perpetual cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 10:47 AM
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It's really unfair how genetics and appearance take such precedence in dating, when loyalty integrity honesty etc are the highest value qualities to me. I really hope you do meet someone who is single and is accepting of your past illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:49 PM
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I don't think society would care that much. Reddit would though lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:25 PM
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I use it when a man clearly hates/strongly dislikes and has no respect for women. People do throw it around inappropriately but it definitely is applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:17 PM
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Q1: If a man displays high levels of confidence would you feel romantic-sexual interest towards him even if his morals are deplorable? No, gross. If anything it's more disgusting. Q2: If a man has any desirable traits (height, good looks, muscles, money, leadership...) would you feel romantic-sexual interest towards him even if he is a bad person? If he's a fantasy character, yes. If it's real life, no. Q4: How to explain that many men do not mask their evil at all and still have romantic-sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:15 PM
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I am so sorry, unfortunately ablism is a big problem in dating. I can understand it too though, I am with a partner with autism/adhd that actually disables him in many contexts and sometimes I v. frustrated that I have extra roles in our relationship providing support and care. But it's worth it for love and a strong relationship. Don't give up though, you mind find as you get older you meet maturer women who can see past illness. Also, consider dating women with chronic illness/disability as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:59 PM
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So yeah, I have two friends that come to mind, both different. Neither are short actually, which is the main thing blackpill people seem to ham on about. One is actually good looking imo, strong build and talented musician but chronic shyness. SO SHY. Like, he is definitely hot enough to hook up but he's incapable of talking to women and he's just soooo shy. One has maybe average looks and is overweight, but he's also very shy and doesn't have the charisma for making stuff happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:54 PM
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But not all of us are looking for casual sex with anyone? It's a massive compliment from me. I wouldn't consider someone husband material unless they were hot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:49 PM
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Are they the same women though? Like my mum's first husband was a bad choice (my dad is a classic crap absent father) but she was only 18 and naive and definitely not worldly-wise. Her second husband is a great man who adores her and has been a brilliant father to me. People are capable of making a shitty choice without being a stupid person. I agree when people make the same choice repeatedly it's kinda painful to watch. But from my experience, women who repeatedly choose bad men aren't usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:47 PM
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Thank you for giving me hope! Pregnant with my first at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:49 PM
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Nah I had to change to attract relationships, like getting fit and healthy, learning to mask autistic traits, etc. It's easier for women but problems still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:44 PM
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I get what you're saying but realistically they fuck a lot of sluts to get there. Otherwise it's still time consuming. I guess we're getting pretty hypothetical here, more studies needed lmao. I have nothing agaisnt people being studs or sluts as long as they're having a good time. Unfortunately it often seems to come from a bad place but that isn't my business. Sex is great, enjoy it if you can. I was saying darling in a flamboyant gay voice, to give it context. I don't mind pet names if it's m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 05:02 PM
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Wait, what is your definition of stud? I don't think of a stud as being a moderate n count but high. Women who are low n count/reserved don't put out. That's how they keep it low. They wait for serious dating or relationships. A stud wouldn't be very successful there - he'd have to do serial monogamy. So yeah imo a stud sleeps mainly with sluts. It's not fantasy darling I've lived experience of being a slut 😂 I'm not ashamed. My past is messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:33 PM
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My granny my mum or me? 😂 My granny absolutely, my mum maybe, me not unless he's ill. My love knows I'm the one who gets tea in the morning hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:29 PM
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Serious cope. I am more than happy fucking women if men want to go off with robots. I definitely have zero interest in the kind of men who genuinely want to only fuck robots haha. Nothing agaisnt robots, I'd probably try it for a laugh. But if you think it's gonna replace the real deal you're pretty insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:23 PM
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That's not a real scenario though is it. I didn't realise we could just pull fantasy out of our butt holes to support statements, I'll do that more often 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:17 PM
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It's definitely worse for women but most men don't realise time degrades their fertility too. Babies born from old men have more health complications, lower iq, more learning disabilities etc even with young mums. I'm 30 and got pregnant twice within 5 months so it's clearly not a huge drama :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:33 PM
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Oh noooes people age! What a crisis 😂 I better warn my poor abused partner that now I'm 30 he needs to dump me for a 20 year old because I look like an adult woman now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:10 PM
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I don't agree that reveals loyalty though. I'd need more data - why is divorce initiated? Did he cheat or have an affair? Was he cruel? Was he distant and emotionally unavailable? I strongly believe relationships are the responsibility of both parties. A failed relationship is rarely just one person at fault. Of course it happens where the woman is divorcing for money or a new hot man, but I highly doubt its the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:17 PM
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I agree women will drop short term relationships very quickly in modern dating, for good or bad, but I don't see that is true long term if the relationship is successful. Like most married women with kids I know are loyal. I think it's too easy to get carried away and think the worst examples are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:08 PM
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Well I'm modern and not even tradcon but I am in a LTR with a disabled partner so... Yeah doesn't check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:54 PM
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You're right, RP is horrible to men too. That's dark. I'm really sorry for what you've had to go through and it's really unfair. Everybody deserves connection. I'm also autistic and I am with an autistic man. I'm not gonna dump gross platitudes on you but my partner probably didn't dream our life was possible either. Unfortunately if you're autistic that person who matches you is way harder to find and especially for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:00 PM
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I think RP has some common sense tennets but the people peddling it are scammers and they have no empathy for women. Feminism needs to become more inclusive of men to reach gender egalitarianism. I actually have a lot of sympathy for what men go through, I have three brothers all with problems and my partner too. I honestly see the truth of how fucking hard it is. But the ultimate pill is that its fucking hard for everyone. Its a weird cope that women somehow have it better or vice versa even. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:44 AM
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Unfortunately PPD does make you think all men hate all women. The genuine misogyny on here is terrifying. Luckily I actually live in the real world and I know it isn't everyone. But yeah unfortunately some women see this and think it's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:07 AM
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I agree. I'm a feminist and I actually am so glad I'm a woman. I think life sucks for both genders and I really wish we could walk in each others shoes. I honestly don't think the guys on PPD would be so hateful or disrespectful of women if they understood. And vice versa. I think in some countries women do have it much worse, and historically women have been treated awfully and worse too, but tbh we've all had it bad in the lower classes. And in modern society... I'd definitely rather be a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:40 AM
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Cringey revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:29 AM
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Tf you on about, this is backed by nightmare fantasy not evidence or statistics. My grandmother was at my grandpa's side as he died. My mum would never leave my dad. My partner will always have me. You a poor jaded fucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:28 AM
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I accidentally broke my own hymen, they're fragile things. It's a really fucking dumb concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:26 AM
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Judging by purge week this definitely isn't true. I'm glad PPD isn't reflective of society because otherwise I'd be thinking men really do simply hate women and have no empathy towards us at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:24 AM
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Same for men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:00 AM
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Sperm also rapidly degrades. The time bomb applies to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:53 AM
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My parents were married dude and my dad still fucked off when I was a baby. My mum has only been with three men and two she married. Being chaste doesn't stop men being terrible dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:45 AM
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What about single fathers? Memes like this are so illogical. It takes two to tango and at least the woman stayed. My mum raised me alone for the first few years because my dad ran away with another woman after I was born. She remarried and I had an amazing new father and a very high standard of living. I'm proud of her for overcoming the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:42 AM
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I love getting compliments, I just don't like creepy ones lmao. Is that actually hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:36 AM
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It's unfair because sex is enjoyable and nobody deserves to be punished for enjoying it. And, no studs without sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:58 AM
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I'm not really sure if it's about "being rejected consistently" due to juggernaut effect - because the possibility for sex always exists for you - it's why women across the board derive far less value from sex to begin with (I don't buy any of that evopsych bullshit, I think sex is cheapened for women because its on instant tap). Before you go on the deep end for it to be formative, you'll simply feed on validation from even bigger losers than you are, even if you're kinda disgusted by the prosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:11 PM
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Sure you are probably seeing a real phenomenon. But not all men are incels, not all women are that immature. I've been rejected twice as an adult and both guys are lifelong friends, they both were at my wedding. I just accepted it. But I was rejected consistently as a teenager for being fat and autistic so rejection feels normal for me. I may no longer be fat (still autistic but I mask well) but I still don't get the big deal if someone isn't into me. Sure I get a bit butt hurt and self esteem t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:59 PM
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A baby is fully formed before they even come out, and definitely conscious! They are conscious in the womb too. Thus, there is an age limit on abortions. But agree to disagree, and thank you I wish you a happy one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:54 PM
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You're saying AWALT so you are speaking about all women... I mean, I'm including my life experience with this. I have lots of women friends and they're all mature reasonable people. Idk maybe I'm crazy lucky or have great taste but I think you're talking about a minority of women. But yeah I don't disagree that there is an innate fear of bigger stronger people in a vulnerable context. I don't walk alone at night for a reason. I'm actually pretty careful yet still been assaulted and harassed. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:52 AM
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So as a woman I think you slightly misunderstand. It's not that we generally think all men are predators or sex crazed but that a small portion of men are. Those men are scary and repeat offend. I do get some odd requests/comments in my DMs but only occasionally and rarely threatening. However l have been SA'd (a guy stuck his finger up there and I screamed and slapped him) and harassed (violently groped in public on a few occasions, mostly at bars but once in broad daylight walking with my part…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:38 AM
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Yes men do cheat more, though I'd argue that monogamy is hard and men have higher sex drives. We're not monogamous so no cheating, no problem. I think it's fine for men to have standards and preferences, I might find them a bit weird or immature but that's not my business really, I was just disagreeing that most men are that focused on age. But I'm not a man, I only have that view because of my own life experiences. Maybe I just know a disproportionate amount of loyal and mature guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:48 AM
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Maybe, but men in PPD say its the women who push for divorce etc. Which tbf I often find to be true, men seem more likely to want to stay even if the relationship isn't working. I think most men value love and commitment more than youth. That's my experience of life and relationships. I don't fear my partner leaving me for a younger women anymore than my mum or grandma does. I wouldn't date a man that was that shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:36 AM
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But that doesn't make sense, if women much prefer older men wouldn't they initially marry one? && if men have such an overwhelming preference for younger women why do they stay in relationships with women their own age rather than divorcing them for being old?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:20 AM
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I'm not dismissing it, it just doesn't match reality. If women genuinely preferred older men, why do only 8% of heterosexual relationships in the US have a ten year + age gap? Also applicable to older men exclusively pursuing younger women. I would argue only some men exclusively pursue younger women, and only some women prefer older men. Thus that would explain why only 8% of relationships have an extensive age gap, and why the average gap is only 2.3 years. I feel like you are actually dismiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:14 AM
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Yeah I can see what you mean, I guess from when I've heard people talking about it they've specifically been talking about guys acting horrible to over compensate without insulting the small dick itself. But yeah has a similar energy. As I said I wouldn't use those words myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:15 AM
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Unsuccessful to me would be if one party is deeply unhappy or there was a prolonged period of bad feelings. I agree a relationship ending isn't automatically unsuccessful. But a ten year marriage involving kids? I do agree men find younger women more attractive overall btw just not necessarily that they only want relationships with younger women. I think most people regardless of sex want a happy, successful relationship with someone they love and desire. Also going out with a younger woman is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:07 AM
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Yes but those men are divorced. That doesn't refute my hypothesis that men who are unsuccessful in relationships date younger. While men in successful relationships are happy to continue dating the woman they love of equal age. Otherwise men in successful relationships would just dump their wife when she's old. Only 8% of relationships have a 10 year age gap so it's not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:01 AM
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But statistically it isn't, as the vast majority of people are with someone of a similar age in Western countries. I think rich and famous people, despite being real, are less likely to have successful relationships. Thus the constant divorcing. Probably due to pressures and stress. My hypothesis was that men from unsuccessful relationships date down. Everyone I know in happy committed ltr are same age ish. But you are right, the older single guys date lower. I've dated two older guys and both w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:49 AM
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I've been there too for the same reasons and it sucks but there are always other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:29 AM
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I don't compare myself or people around me to the rich and famous, different planets. I look at the people who exist in my actual life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:29 AM
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No, just work on yourself rather than giving up cause you're short. I thought I was doomed to a hell of being disgusting and undateable, it's definitely possible to escape it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:28 AM
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Well, it doesn't to me because I have never said or thought that in my whole life. I don't care what size dick a guy has, I mean I fuck women and they don't have one so size is irrelevant to me. I do personally think it's distasteful but I also don't think people mean it like that. But yeah I wouldn't say it or think it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:19 AM
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I think it depends on the guy. I wonder if men from unsuccessful relationships are more likely to date down because they are jaded? Like attraction is important to everyone but my parents have a really passionate relationship yet they're in their 50s. They are still clearly in love and attracted to each other. I don't think men only consider age and looks. Maybe that's a default if you don't find love. My partner for example prefers me in a grubby tshirt with no makeup, even though I love dressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:16 AM
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Sure dude I hallucinated a guy I've been friends with for years 😂 all those photos, memories, all a fiction. I don't need to lie on the Internet lmao. No benefit to me. Guys just can't handle the truth that it's actually their personality, hobbies and lifestyle that isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:12 AM
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Most guys with small dicks aren't like this. Just like most short guys don't have "short man syndrome" - it's a trope that some guys act arrogant and tough because they are over compensating. Nobody is saying all guys with small dicks are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:10 AM
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This is true for some women but not all. I was undateable but fuckable in my teen years. I worked really hard to become more dateable - worked on social skills, lost weight and got fit, learned hobbies, taught myself good make up skills, acquired a decent wardrobe. Women do work to be hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:07 AM
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Most couples I know are within the 10 year range of each other with the man being slightly older, like 3 - 5 years on average. My partner is a year older than me. Maybe it depends on age you meet then, like guys generally go for similar age until they are older and if it didn't work out date lower. The average age gap in US couples is 2.3 years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:02 AM
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Small dick energy is referring to someone with a small dick trying to over compensate. It's not about the dick, it's about the attitude. However while I did find it funny I do think it could come across as shaming guys with small dicks. So personally wouldn't use that phrase. But you're also not taking it into context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:55 AM
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Incels are a particular group and being virgin isn't necessary to be part of it. Plenty of incels aren't virgin. You can have sex or even a relationship than afterwards be an incel. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:50 AM
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Do women really care that much? I have never actually heard a woman take the piss out of a male virgin. I have lots of women friends. I've been mocked for being a slut at college but never since. Either is just childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:47 AM
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Is it actually true though? Mostly the Internet is supportive. You definitely live in a manosphere bubble if you think this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:46 AM
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I thought the evidence was actually that while men find younger women attractive overrall they still often pursue their own age range for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:08 AM
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The photos on my profile save one in orange were taken the year before, when I was in my 20s 😂 you are just being facitious. I believe irl people over Internet dudes anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:06 AM
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Why would I make shit up to random strangers on the Internet? It would be pointless. I get plenty of attention irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:03 AM
1

You probably didn't realise, I once dated a guy who said he'd never fancied a woman over 30 and I had to point out laughing that the woman he'd been crushing on the week before at a party we'd been at was 34. He just assumed she was younger because she was hot. I think looks wise things always change at 40s but you can still be classy, elegant and gorgeous. Personality vibrancy can remain untarnished.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:19 PM
1

Abortion in my country is only allowed up until a certain point. I don't think new borns or fully formed conscious beings should be killed, and that they deserve rights. I feel differently about unformed non conscious clumps of cells and embryos. I genuinely don't consider embryos human life. They don't even look human - they equally resemble dolphin or pig embryos. I also didn't say life was sacred. I absolutely do believe children are amazing and deserve to be loved, and never used as punishme…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:58 PM
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Why though? Every sperm and egg contains the DNA necessary for life. Why is lump of cells more life then them? I can understand if you're referring to heart n brain development but then surely early abortion is therefore fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:40 PM
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It's the correct response. Our bodies don't care about distant human morals. It knows the baby won't survive and is a waste of resources. I also think the correct response to "I cannot love, support or financially raise a child" is to have an abortion. Again, unless you think wanking and contraception are equally morally wrong your viewpoint doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:37 PM
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Non-existence is neutral, it cannot be bad. Every time you spunk or ovulate a life is unexisted. Every egg and sperm is potentially life. My body does choose - it miscarries intentionally. If there is something wrong, it won't proceed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:31 PM
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Thanks for informing someone who has actually had one what it's like 🥴 Forcing women to birth is also a tragedy. My Unborn baby is extremely wanted and will be loved and fully financially supported. Why anyone would be ok with anything less is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:25 PM
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My body chooses to miscarry because the baby isn't viable. A good friend of mine had an abortion she didn't want because the baby was unviable (would be extremely disabled) and did what her body should have. Most women have abortions because they are unable to financially or emotionally provide for a child. It's an intelligent decision to make sure the children being born are wanted and have a higher standard of living. Why are you insisting on children being used as tools of punishment when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:24 PM
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Are miscarriages, the bodies natural abortion, also murder? It makes no sense to force people to become parents. Your existence isn't justification. Of course once a person is born they have a right to life despite circumstances. But its cruel to force parenthood on people. Children deserve to be loved. Surely you agree a world full of loved children is vastly superior to one full of unloved, unwanted ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:17 PM
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Cool bro 😎 Can't see why you're bothering with a debate reddit if you're just here to be a little bitch though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:58 PM
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Nah I get way more attention from actually attractive men now. Like significantly more. I noticed a surge when I hit 28. I get way less attention from creeps though! I hardly ever get catcalled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:57 PM
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Opposite actually, because my mum desperately wanted me and loved me I know how important that is. I carry a baby right now and they are also very much wanted. The idea of using children as punishment is vile to me. They are a gift. I can't personally imagine having an abortion but I know I am going to be a good mother. Making awful or unwilling mothers is beyond evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:56 PM
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That doesn't make any sense. Abortion is a horrible proceedure, it's still a consequence. Inflicting an unloving parent on a child is awful, children should be a joy not a tool for punishing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:50 PM
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Yes, a screenshot of the Internet is science 😂 ffs. I think all people should aspire to consistently better themselves, but there is no mountain top. Its a lifes work. I don't see perfection anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:47 PM
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Yes, but she wasn't actually young. I also think personality youthfulness is super important. I think there is sexyness and merit to age but a youthful attitude is always a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:38 PM
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I've seen that study before, it's a fantastic one. I guess it's important to take a variety of views and evidence to fuel our own world view. I do think people in unhappy relationships are worse off than single people but a happy relationship would be the best for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:36 PM
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I never fully trust a pop science vibe study, so I can see that makes sense. I think really it's probably a difficult subject to really study. I know so many unhappy ltr and happy singles, unhappy mums and happy childfree... But probably just as many in reverse. People are rarely truly honest in either camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:17 PM
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I was 28 dating a 20 yr old girl and tbh the emotional immaturity does come to bite you. She was super mature too but it's not the same as actual life experience. I definitely got better looking with age, proven by the amount of attention recieved. Maybe that'll stop now I'm 30 and pregnant but my mum was found very attractive throughout her 30s and 40s so I think it's genetic. We have great collagen so our skin stays youthful. People still often think I'm 25 ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:15 PM
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When I was 19 I dated a 32 year old guy, at 20 I dated a 45 year old guy, I have no issue with age gaps. I've dated two younger women, both around 7-8 years younger than me. I do however find it weird and creepy when men only pursue young women. I find younger women hot, naturally. Many are. But honestly most seem immature and too young in the 18 - 23 range. I can't fathom why anyone would be exclusively attracted to that age range. I definitely am at my hottest and sexiest at 26-30 (30 now) bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:00 PM
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I'm 30 and I still have people thinking I'm in my 20s, and full of life sparkle. I don't have wrinkles. I still model. I think it's more about the individual. Some people turn into old farts when they hit 30 but it's not inevitable. I still do the same shit I've always done - creative hobbies, exercize, video games, dnd, world travel. Keeping the magic is a conscious active choice. I do think lots of people lose it in their 30s but I've met others who've aged fantastically. Some women look so cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:54 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202102/why-many-single-women-without-children-are-so-happy Research shows the opposite though. I say this as a partnered woman expecting a baby and very happy with both! I can definitely see how being single and childless could be incredibly rewarding though. But, I love my regular cuddles and family too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:44 PM
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I really like this analogy. I can see its truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:39 PM
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I would say A but it's not just face. Attraction for most women is a combo of looks, charisma/charm, style/presentation & intrigue/how interesting you are. Like my partner did not win me by looks. It was definitely intrigue (good sense of humour, clear emotional availablity, talented artist and muscian) that led to being charmed and then I found him physically attractive. It can be the other way round but really I think men assume women think like men and prize immediate physical attraction supe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 04:03 PM
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Thought so. Evidence doesn't exist. You guys love to make women out to be generally awful people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:02 AM
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I think it's kind of complicated, because I agree that it's weird to imply unattractive or lonely people just aren't being good enough. I'm sure sometimes the person really is a creep or an asshole but I believe more often its just inexperience, shyness, not being conventionally attractive or charismatic. I do think black pill over inflates the importance of height and appearance in general. Anecdotally, I know a very short dude like 5ft 4 who is always in relationships with hot girls. But he's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:01 AM
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Evidence that most women prefer r*pists and sex traffickers as partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:51 AM
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He's a role model for wanna be r*pists and traffickers you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:50 AM
2

Can you provide an actual decent source for evidence that women orgasm more from men they find attractive? It's anatomy and technique dude. Also women in lesbian relationships orgasm the most. I generally struggle to orgasm PIV, even with the hottest guys I've fucked it didn't happen. With my current long term partner it occurs once in a blue moon. I can barely orgasm with anyone through any means. It's genuinely quite hard to get some women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:00 PM
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This. Tbh when I'm getting with a woman I find attractive I'm so excited I enjoy basically anything she likes 😂 Posts like this make me feel like the person is either incredibly inexperienced or genuinely doesn't actually find women hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:51 PM
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My bare minimum... Shares cooking & cleaning responsibilities 50/50 Earns roughly equal pay to me (but unemployed and searching is fine) Buys/makes Christmas and birthday presents Strives for equality in the bedroom around pleasure Makes an effort with friends and family Looks after their health as best they can Affectionate and kind as a default Good communication skills Anything below this is definitely not acceptable for a partnership for me. I also wouldn't praise those beyond the expected e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:26 PM
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😂 Are you sure you're heterosexual dude? Sounds like you don't like pussy. Most guys I've been with absolutely loved giving head. They found it sexy. If you like pussy, why wouldn't you enjoy it? My current partner has a big dick and still is good at oral lmao. Because a big dick doesn't equal orgasm. I mean fair if you genuinely don't enjoy it, but don't start judging guys that love it. But sure, it's "narcissistic" for women to also want an orgasm 😂😂 and not narcissistic of men at all to think…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:32 PM
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I don't think there's any magic silver bullet for dating... If you're "conventionally unattractive" you do just have to put extra in, like getting fit and, imo, getting a unique style. Peacock a bit. Confidence carries a lot. I'm always instantly drawn to people who stand out and seem individual in style. Try exploring appearance in a fun way - it doesn't have to be serious. Try tinted moisturizer. And for God's sake for OLD take better photos. Most mens profiles are terrible and off putting. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 09:33 AM
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Yup, my ex is like your cousin. There's something about someone getting everything in life that kinda makes them a bit dysfunctional 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:49 PM
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Believe is a strong word. But I think society is incredibly complex and shaped by many different forces. Absolutely including self interest. However society, even micro communities and tribes, utterly fail without morals. Humans are creatures of cooperation, bonding, empathy and kindness. Self interest is a part of us but not the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:47 PM
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I do care about men's struggles, I work in mental health and I'm completely aware how awful life can be for men. I don't believe in western society women automatically have it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:44 PM
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You can think that all you like hun, if it makes you feel safer about your choices. Reality is that you never know how relationships or life will go. Trauma and abuse can happen at any point. You can keep your preferences and I'll keep mine :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:26 AM
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Sure dude, I hope you enjoy your dystopian world full of murder, rape and pedophiles 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:05 AM
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Nah, I want someone who has put in the work and continues to put in the work. I don't want a partner who has never put in the work whether from good or backgrounds. I've dated a girl from an absolute dream background - mum is a doctor, dad runs a business, both great loving parents, went to an amazing private school, perfect grades. She had plenty of crappy qualities eg shallow, judgemental, lack of empathy or self awareness. She also recently started having mental breakdowns cause her adult lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:04 AM
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You don't think moral principles are real? You don't think moral effects behaviour? I think you need to step outside friend. Morals shape society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:54 AM
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Ethics aren't real? Do you understand what ethics are? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:23 AM
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We are in control with how we act. Also I often pay over half and I don't care. My partner makes less money then me. What does bother me is if he slacks off housework or sex or generally isn't contributing to other life stuff. & we're non monogamous so he gets sexual variety. I actually think all humans experience partner boredom. I definitely do if he's my only sexual partner for a long time. He's not a super thirsty guy so our drives are weirdly matched which suits me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:15 AM
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It's why I said semi... I don't think hookup culture is that good for anyone but also not everyone needs to always be in serious relationships. Like there is a middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:10 AM
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How is that blue pill? Its just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:59 AM
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Ironically I would be hesitant to date someone from a perfect life. I find people from ultra good backgrounds are often a bit overly judgemental and lack empathy, and empathy is my most highly regarded trait in a partner. I also don't know how resilient they are - will they cope with trauma? What if they get sick? They've not dealt with mental health before - what if they get depression at some point? Someone with a muddy past who has broken through it to be an incredible person is more reliable…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:57 AM
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That makes no sense dude, I know single mums with plenty of kids. It's very easy for any fertile woman to reproduce. I think semi casual sex is great for society. With contraception or women being more aware of their cycles. Unwanted babies with absent parents are always bad for society. Luckily society isn't static and things are changing. It's unfortunate that there is a crisis of male loneliness but I personally think its good that we have effective contraception and sex outside of marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:47 AM
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30 f bi, and my n count is... I don't know. Definitely high. Not over 50 but I stopped counting when I was young. I don't care about n count. I'm in a non monogamous long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:44 PM
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Definitely works, I know short guys with smoking hot taller girlfriends but they're all charismatic and peacocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:39 PM
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The nerd because I love DnD!! But my partner does horticulture and isn't that kind of nerd so 😭 just a chilli nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:21 PM
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*most people Fixed it for you. You guys can't bitch that men have worse mental health and higher suicide rates AND claim women are crazier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:49 PM
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First of all this study is in the US, its not a reflection of the entire world. Secondly its sample was only of young adults - it's not even representative of the population of the US. Third - it still states that men cause 95% of injuries so I'd like to see a detailed analysis of what they were considering violent. All violence is wrong of course but how can 70% of non reciprocal violence be perpetrated by women yet 95% of injuries be caused by men unless very minor acts were included? A slap i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:56 AM
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You're just making up statistics. The 70% is referring to only violence agaisnt men. It's not even including women. Statistically the world over women suffer more DV then men, and far more extremely (women by far more likely to be hospitalised or killed) - and re: child abuse that isn't breaking it down into the different forms of abuse for example men are far, far more likely to commit sexual abuse. Warping statistics doesn't make you right. It's also just frickin common sense. Outside of the W…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 11:51 AM
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Wow, they should move to the UK. Unless you're very conventionally unattractive, or an immigrant/working in a brothel, most escorts charge over £100. Tbh I've known many escorts and £160 was the lowest I'd heard of. I took the liberty of researching it and apparently high end escorts are the same price in Germany as UK but due to it being legal the market is flooded with cheaper immigrant sex workers. Kinda similar to here then. Apparently Germany has some of the worse escort rates due to legali…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:00 PM
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Well, I decided not to because I really don't enjoy sex with people I don't like, to the point where it kills my sex drive, so I'd essentially make myself asexual I want to be a therapist and heal people, and I've always been afraid SW would compromise a professional career I want to have children I can always be transparent with about my past I have a LTR where it wouldn't work In all honesty if I hadn't met my partner I'd probably have considered it. But being in a safe stable relationship is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:27 PM
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My friend is an escort and makes £180 a hour, I work in mental health and earn £10.35 a hour. That's why some people choose sex work. It's extremely lucrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:31 PM
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If you think this is a strawman argument you haven't haunted this sub for long enough. There are always debates around women's n-count and simultaneously women not putting out quickly enough. Dates ARE vetting. I go on a first date to vet. I almost never agree to a second - a second date means I feel serious. I haven't been used for sex since becoming a proper adult because I prioritise as a quality "high interest/enthusiasm" and stopped falling for game players. However I've seriously seen many…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:24 PM
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In the UK heterosexual people have official surpassed gay folks in having more cases of HIV. Bisexual doesn't mean slut. Bisexual doesn't mean experienced. Bisexual people also have access to screening - you can ask for STI test proof if you're worried. It's a dirty stereotype and massively homophobic. Nobody is obligated to sleep with anyone else, but that doesn't mean it's not homophobic to meet your absolute dream boyfriend then nope him due to him shagging a guy once upon a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:07 PM
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How do you know the sample was liberal? It literally says nothing about that. The sample size is also small. You're also using a women's mag website as evidence... I don't doubt you're right when referring to the general population btw. I just don't think it's true of woke lefty circles. Or generally the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:43 AM
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It's sexist and homophobic. I have and will always call out any woman who says this - had to do it at work recently. I don't think your point makes sense. Neither are acceptable imo. I don't think generally most woke women think either is ok. It's not socially acceptable to do either in any of my circles. I'm a bi gal dating a bi guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:44 AM
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Nah, but it'll help imo. It'll take the edge off of loneliness. Ultimately most men wanting loving emotional relationships, not only sex. Women also. I can imaging it will take portion of men off of the dating market. Maybe more women will explore lesbian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:42 AM
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We've been together for 8 years, we're doing okay 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:38 PM
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So all women are inferior to all men and there are no powerful women in the whole of human history?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:06 PM
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Lol I'll let him know 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:05 PM
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That wasn't what I said dude, I literally have no issues with guys going abroad to find consensual sex with adults! Better than me is pretty hilarious though I'm not available 😂 I'm in a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:57 PM
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So I used to be in that position when I was younger... I guess E because tbh for me it was largely being naive and overly trusting. I heard nice words and believed them. I often wasn't even that attracted to them or horny tbh rarely actually feeling turned on. I wanted a boyfriend. I just didn't have the social skills or social awareness to know what I was doing. Only so many times you get burned though... So now I wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:17 PM
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Not really tbh. I don't enjoy fucking around with no emotions. I also have a different preference to most women maybe being quite into women myself - I like gentle sensitive guys and I find masculinity a huge turn off. Even my BDSM partners have been gentle soft guys that know how to switch in the bedroom. I have and would do FwB... But yeah the friend part is important. I'd want to feel like we could date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:55 AM
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You think women being powerful or equal to men is just gaslighting? I feel sad for the women in your life dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:40 AM
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I fully agree. My only advice is date other autistics. I'm autistic and so is my long term partner. I find it way too hard trying to date neurotypical folks generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:52 PM
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I mean, I'm not all women but when I do date if I'm genuinely interested I put in lots of effort. I dress up nicely, do pretty make up, I often will pick the activity and I will usually initiate flirting. I expect to pay half unless they earn a lot more than me and offer - if they offer but earn similar or less I'll refuse cause it seems rude to me. I also date women. I think if she's not putting in effort... I'd say she isn't interested enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:45 PM
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I pay because the quality is better, I have friends in the industry so want to support ethical porn, and there is more of a guarantee that the people involved are being treated well. I have limited resources but I actively prefer to pay more for as-ethical-as-possible for example, I buy albums off of small artists despite having spotify, I buy clothes from independent sellers and second hand rather than new but cheap etc etc I earn minimum wage. I don't like porn hub and its a really shitty comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:25 PM
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I pay for higher quality porn from ethical companies, to me that seems more reasonable than free porn. I feel grossed out by the mainstream porn industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:58 PM
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Wow this really hit home. I definitely relate. I don't view men as past oppressors - I don't like playing the blame game. But there is no denying in my heart the intergenerational gender pain of recent history. It was still legal to rape your wife only 30 years ago here in the UK. We couldn't vote 100 years ago. Further back we couldn't go to university, have a career, own property, etc. I don't blame men, it's not your fault our history is so dark and cruel. It was cruel and dark for men too. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:59 PM
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So you think men are forced to kneel down so women have equality - that they don't deserve? 🤔 How can people write comments like this and be confused why woman complain about redpill/incel content.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 12:52 PM
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Those are platforms for people to mainly do stuff in their spare time not many people become paid content creators. Creators aren't often victims of slavery abuse coercion either. Obviously that's only a portion of the porn industry but it's bigger than people realise and it's enough to put me off. Porn is a full time job. Ethical companies charge. Amateurs charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:56 AM
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It shouldn't be free. Is food free? Clothes? Films? Fuel? No. I find it really "insane" people think something should be free in this current society. Those are real human beings, they deserve to be paid properly and have safe working conditions. Ethical porn costs money. Free porn is devaluing. I would 100% rather he paid. At least I know there's a much lesser chance the women are being abused or underpaid. The parasocial side I understand, but that isn't about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:20 AM
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Sure, though I'd want him to be very forward about it and explain why. However, not comfortable if it happens again while dating. Unless it's me he's paying and it's role play 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:03 AM
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I definitely don't. My current partner had a 5 year dry period once. A close relative had about the same. It's just normal. Especially for young introverts. I fucking hate both purity culture and this bizarre obsession with men having to be studs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:02 AM
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Paying for porn is insane? People gotta make money. It's not really fair to say something should be free. I would 100% prefer my partner pays so I know the models are making better money and much less likely to be essentially slaves or deeply unhappy low paid actors. I've got friends in porn and it's a fucked up industry. The places that charge are usually run by the best people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:52 AM
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I have no problem at all unless it became obsessive or he stopped paying equally for shit. Tbh I'd rather he was paying for porn, more ethical. I used to have a subscription to Four Chambered Hearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 07:48 AM
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So you think there is no such thing as emotional connection or love it's all just leverage??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:58 PM
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So are romantic relationships only about fucking? I'm confused. I am not very visually stimulated, I was attracted to his weird sense of humour. I've dated guys that are less attractive than me. Obviously there is a limit but it's not as important as personality and charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:53 PM
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Well I'm glad it works for you, but my relationship isn't based on value. We met at a party and instantly clicked. I had no idea about his life and we started dating straight away. We're both equal in looks. I make slightly more money but by a tiny margin. He's gentle and emotional and sweet. We just, you know, enjoy each others company and fell in love. I personally prefer having an emotional based connection to thinking its based on leverages lol Are you like this about your friends and family…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:34 PM
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I don't know any men who use the above sexual strategy. I'm not mad about anything, I'm not dating an asshole 😂 I find it creepy you think men should hold leverage over women to fuck them rather than forming relationships and connections with any meaning. As you are married yourself, that seems particularly alien. Do you not love and respect your wife? Or do you only have leverage over her?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:27 PM
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Why do you have to leverage something over women to fuck them? Just date women you find attractive, and fall in love. If you're struggling, try and change your situation. You don't need to find ways to abuse and hurt women just to aquire sex. If you want an empty fuck, hire an escort. Power games hurt everyone. Geez I feel sorry for your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:15 PM
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You don't know me or the people involved. It's pointless talking because you're very stuck on what you think happened and who you think I should be. I know what happened, I know there is accountability. But it's pointless arguing about it because you think you know better. I'm happy with who I am and how I am. I live a rich fulfilling life which I obviously cannot prove over reddit so accepting that means giving me the benefit of the doubt. People can go through trauma and go on to lead a good l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:45 AM
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You clearly don't understand how human brains work. If I experienced being used and badly treated by men, I will obviously have less trust in them. It would be a flaw in evolution and nature for that to not be a consequence. I don't distrust them to the point I think they're all rapists, jesus, I just don't automatically assume they have good intentions. Tbh I think it's served me better than not. It means I vet more heavily. You are literally soooo on your high horse about how really its my res…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:55 PM
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Deflection again. Address the issue that sex tourism involving children and sex slaves is perpetrated by men. I don't care about men or women who pay for sex. I don't have a moral objection to sex work. I'm specifically talking about the dark side of the sex tourism industry involving minors and slaves. Most people who hire sex workers are men. Most child abusers are men. It's not an accusation at all men, most men don't use sex workers and most men aren't abusers. But pretending women are "just…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:00 PM
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You opened so well, why did it devolve into genuine hatred of women?? I apologise for pooping, having periods, sometimes wearing comfortable clothes and not wearing makeup every day, but unfortunately women are actually human beings 😂😂 You have clearly never been in an actual relationship before. I love my partner, he's one of my best friends and my ally in life. If that sounds too cheesy and gross and weird, maybe.. You're actually gay?? I don't mean this homophobicly, I'm bisexual myself, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 08:53 PM
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Yeah its a nuanced issue. I also think it's hard for a single parent to be as great... It must be really hard doing it alone. But like with any big challenge you get those who rock it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:53 PM
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My partner is sexy enough that he gets attention. He's definitely on the soft side, but he's very charming. I think it depends on the single parent tbh.. If they're a strong role model that's great. You can have two crappy role model parents too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:19 PM
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I'm sorry but it's ignorant to the point of stupidity to compare women going travelling to fuck around with the serious issue of rich Western men going to impoverished countries to fuck sex slaves, many underaged or actual children. The only argument anyone has come up with to respond to that has been pure deflection. Address the actual problem. It's so immature. Men cannot both be the hornier, sex-is-a-need gender, and not be responsible for the lions share of sex crimes. Just show a shred of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:15 PM
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I'm sorry but it's ignorant to the point of stupidity to compare women going travelling to fuck around with the serious issue of rich Western men going to impoverished countries to fuck sex slaves, many underaged or actual children. The only argument anyone has come up with to respond to that has been pure deflection. Address the actual problem. It's so immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:15 PM
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I've been with my partner for 8 years and we're expecting our first child. We met aged 22 (me) and him 23 - we've had ups and downs but we communicate everything. No secrets, no hidden resentment. We have very similar taste. He's happy to let me take charge in terms of life direction and that really works for me. But he's strong and firm in his needs too, so not like a wet blanket with no boundaries. I think our relationship success is really down to both choosing commitment, while giving a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:57 PM
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My partner of 8 years was raised by a single mother and he's the best human I know 🤷 why make really horrible generalisations? What about young men whose fathers died?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 05:47 PM
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Yeah I think among those who've been losers we've waaaay more in common then we realise. That's it, it can become a game of who has it worse... The answer is just more complicated than that especially in Western society. Obviously you can look at really oppressive regimes like Iran and get a more lop sided picture. But for most of us it's not like that. Don't give up hope and keep working it out - I know the world can be so cruel and lonely, but it can get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:43 AM
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Oh I totally agree, I think being forced into being an incel is horribly traumatic. I have a lot of empathy for young men that are excluded from love and touch. I think it needs to be a bigger conversation. I also put myself in those awful situations. I was too young and naive to be responsible but the truth is I was autistic and so badly bullied I put myself in horrifically risky situations. I was a problem drinker at age 14. Not even my parents fault, I was such a good liar back then. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:19 AM
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I think you misunderstood me, I'm not jealous if you or unhappy with my situation. I'm not trying to judge you for paying for childcare, I was simply saying that not everyone can afford childcare and in those situations mothers do a lot more work, as raising small children is a big job. You've created a lot of strawman arguments. You're not actually arguing with me. But I understand why. I don't want an easy life. I'm already very priveleged. Maybe more than you? I can't say. I don't know you. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:11 AM
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"I would consider that a very different problem, but I understand what you're saying." It really isn't that different. If someone is looking exclusively for a meaningful emotional connection and only recieve hollow, awkward and physically uncomfortable sex that is worse than not having sex. " I would point out, though, that you would (understandably, in my opinion) certainly get some pushback from many men in my position by stating that you slept around chasing relationships, because that can so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:00 AM
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Yeah I agree. I've been there myself. I slept around as a teenager while chasing relationships. Such a hollow life experience, and I don't think it's just because of my biological sex. I didn't become hateful though, just had some trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:06 AM
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Yeah I've got a couple friends who've used it (women looking for clients) - it's always a fall back option. It seems many men struggle to accept they don't actually just want to use women for sex but want a real relationship... Otherwise the escort industry would be even bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:46 AM
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But they could pay for sex. You missed the point. Sex can be paid for. It's clearly not just sex people want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:26 AM
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There is a huge escort site in the UK - it's very easy to find a local escort in any city or major town. Many of them are clearly independent and educated, and only use full protection. Getting sex IS easy. It's love that's hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:22 AM
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I personally prioritised having a family but so many of my friends that are women are genuinely so happy childfree and single. It's becoming a lifestyle choice. Tbf better off single then miserable in a couple. I think this is a less common thought for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:52 AM
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"People ARE sexual with eachother to initiate a process though? But you have to be honest and upfront about what tyoure looking for. If these men you slept with and you never talked about any of it, then sorry but not trusting men because of this is bs and it ultimately goes on you." They mostly weren't men, they were usually the same age as I was and this was between the ages of 14 - 18 during school and college. I personally think they were responsible for their own communication and actions r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 11:39 PM
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I didn't say I hate standards. Everyone has standards, that would be a dumb thing to hate. I'm not interested in a "top man" because I'm in a happy relationship. I'm not looking to upgrade. I've had opportunities. I value different things over money or looks. I prefer commitment and integrity, thanks. But yes, I think there's a point where standards become ridiculous and counter productive to that person's happiness. Unless they genuinely aren't bothered about relationships of course. I can't co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:56 PM
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Dating isn't fair but I think it makes sense to not be so picky you assume someone being a bit reserved and not instantly trusting is a man hater. I mean you do you obviously. I personally would be wary of having particular high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:38 PM
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But it's not a smooth process. It can take time to heal and become stronger. People don't fit into neat categories of damaged and undamaged. I don't consider people inherently worthless. Everybody is capable of healing and making something of their life. I work in mental health and we don't give up on people even when they're at rock bottom. I wouldn't date anyone who "hated" a whole gender. It's just toxic to be hateful towards people. Thus why I think it's ridiculous to call a loss of trust ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:24 PM
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Most men here complain about not having options. You think they're wrong? If you think you have magic trauma goggles you should come work in mental health, that's talent. You just said you wouldn't take a damaged woman... Now you're saying it's how she reacts to it?? Which is it? I'm not justifying my value, I'm saying anyone who considers me devalued due to trust issues isn't worth my time. I have plenty of good qualities, I don't think my past actually haunts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:09 PM
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If there's plenty of "non-damaged" women why are men always complaining about how difficult it is to find a girlfriend or a "good woman"? I'm a soft person, nobody is going to think I'm hateful. It's just a bit weird and presumptuous of you to think you can even tell who is damaged or not. Obviously some people wear trauma on their sleeves but many hide it. I come across as soft but confident, you'd have no inkling as to my past from meeting me. Further more, you will struggle to find partners w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 06:53 PM
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No unfortunately not hyperbolic, I was really really unlucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:07 PM
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That's incredibly dramatic of you. A loss of trust is a feeling of uncertainty or insecurity in feeling safe and like you can believe someone. You can love someone and lose trust for them. You can like someone you never trusted. Hatred is an incredibly intense feeling of dislike and loathing. A hated person feels like an enemy. I don't trust everyone - I don't hate everyone. I feel very sad for you if you experience hatred so easily or you feel trust issues and hatred as the same feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:06 PM
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I don't even mind men just wanting sex tbh, they should just be honest about it. I would've learned to say no way earlier. Actually when I was 18 I did hook up with an honest guy who was very clear about his intentions and it was the only good one night stand I ever had. Figures. I don't really get valuing bodies that much. I don't do hook ups and I'm slow when dating. I don't get why a guy would care more about a body then a good personality, loyalty, chemistry, connection, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:35 PM
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To me... If their mental health is too difficult to cope with. However my partner has autism adhd and ptsd so my threshold is high. If they're too lazy to work when they could be. I ent being the only earner without good reason. If they don't put any effort into themselves. I'm physically fit and take care of myself. I need an equal. If they have no distinct hobbies or interests. Or if we just don't have enough in common. My partner and I are so similar it's crazy. We've got a really similar aes…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:30 PM
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I don't really like the whole LVM vs HVM thing but I've had three long term relationships with men. One was rich (like proper fancy car and constant holidays rich) - one had his own business and provided me with a comfortable life - one only works in low income jobs and hasn't got a rich family. That last one is still my partner. I'm lucky that I'm not money driven. I want to be comfortable and content but I don't need much. Not bothered by latest fashion or tech, don't need constant holidays, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:25 PM
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I've literally never once told my friends my partners height 🤣🤣 odd take. I have no problem dating a short king. I'm only 5ft 2 so. I would be kinda intrigued to be the tall one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:17 PM
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I mean it's definitely hurting and using women to only value their bodies. I'm lucky I'm in a loving stable relationship where my value is in my companionship. My partner never humped and dumped anyone and him being so emotionally mature and loyal is what makes him a good family man and dream partner. I think much better experience would come to guys by actually dating rather than empty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 03:07 PM
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I personally think they would have probably learned a lot more from actually having a relationship or even a friend-with-benefits situation. I don't think one night stands are that informative. I kind of think for most people that kind of sex isn't really that special. I don't think it was worth the pain and trauma it caused - I am still working through it now, many years later. I learned you can't fully trust a man until you know him really well. I learned to find mens bodies a turn off until I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:51 AM
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Because I was too young/socially inept to understand sex/the dating game. I assumed people were sexual with eachother to initiate a process. I couldn't understand why someone would just want to use me for sex and not follow through. Not one of those guys communicated with me. They had ample opportunity. I would make it clear my intentions and they went along with it. I get it though. Its a cruel world and I was an easy target. Imo just wanting sex means you say "I'm only looking for a hookup" or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:42 AM
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I personally don't think average guys can become fuck boys. I think hurting and using women is actually damaging for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:37 AM
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Fair, none of my LTR moved quite that fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:33 AM
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I think you missed the bit where I mentioned I was ugly and a social outcast. I was one of the LEAST popular kids at school. They might have genuinely liked me but it was social suicide to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 08:32 AM
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Yeah but only a small percentage of guys sleep around like that... So how does it actually benefit men??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:08 PM
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I didn't say hate anywhere in my post, I talked about a loss of trust. I'm a potential loving partner, why risk ruining it? I don't get the value of a brief sexual encounter over a life time of affection and love. I don't think a minority of men fucking around benefits the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:08 PM
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Does this really benefit men though? It benefits a minority of attractive charismatic assholes. If anything it harms most men by making women less trusting and loving towards men. I had a slut phase when I was young. I didn't want to get with loads of guys, I was just very insecure, felt ugly, was autistic and didn't understand social norms. The guys I slept with were in two camps - "nice guys" usually nerdy or stones or emos, or they were older creeps preying on me while I was drunk. In each sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:54 PM
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I definitely do this for all my friends, I love helping people hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 09:43 PM
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In this context you may as well be asking why I don't believe in God - because I have never been presented with sufficient evidence. I've watched and read countless RedPill posts and videos, they have never convinced me or provided, for me, an intelligent or rational debate. I find the language and ideology incredibly emotionally driven. Shockingly I don't have the time or inclination to try to convince you of my opinion; that would be a painful and long process of deconstructing your entire wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:54 PM
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😂😂 Dude by your logic all words are meaningless. Look, any ideology or side is going to have good points and bad ones. If you start getting sucked in you won't be thinking critically. This applies to anything. You're viewing my words as buzzwords/meaningless because they don't align with your ideology. I can say the exact same for you - eg snowflake When I watch people like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate I'm overwhelmed by the sheer volume of buzzwords and empty phrases. I'm sure you feel the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:41 PM
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Any regurgitated ideology is wrong. Life is far more nuanced than the vile trash that falls out of the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:17 PM
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It's still a privilege, I also have worked hard for a decade and I can't afford consistent childcare. Earned wealth, status and power still equates privilege. You can earn privileges. I decided to not pick a capitalist life style (my career is poorly paid but one of passion and personal meaning) and thus I don't have the same options. I'm not complaining, I'm intelligent enough I could have chosen otherwise. However, when my baby is born I will be raising them without assistance outside of my pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:15 PM
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I prefer being the dominant one, it makes me happier :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 03:00 PM
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I'm the dominant one in my relationship. I prefer it because I like to be in complete control of my life. I run a tight ship. I'm the more direct, fierce, active, rational and organised one. My partner is softer, gentle, intuitive, sensitive and creative. We've been together eight years and it works for us!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 02:59 PM
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Best comment 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:12 AM
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That's exactly how I feel about redpill/black pill. Full of buzzwords and regurgitated nonsense. Just because you picked Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson to recycle ideas from, doesn't make you superior to those who pick a feminist or whatever. Everyone creates their worldview from the ideas and thoughts of others. Only the truly ignorant think they are particularly intelligent, special, unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 11:11 AM
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I think one of the core imbalances though are women are only deemed an attractive age to many men between 18 (or younger let's face it) to 29. You hit 30 and suddenly you're a niche market - getting into milf territory. Yes, actually mature men with integrity don't think this, but unfortunately lots of men do. Regardless of whether they want children. I'm an alternative model and my bookings drastically dropped the moment I hit 30. I will probably get more bookings in my 40s because then I'll be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 10:03 AM
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I'm not deflecting or assuming your situation, I think there are many things that are easier for women than men. I do think it's seriously underestimated how difficult raising children is. You do realise single dads also exist? It isn't even a gender based issue! I'm currently pregnant and I'm constantly exhausted. I was active, fit, loved cooking and stayed on top of the housework. I've been struggling with working while maintaining even basic life needs. I think it's very weird and speaks of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:25 PM
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Do you have children? Have you ever raised a baby or toddler with minimum help?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:12 PM
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How was she sitting around doing nothing all day when she was bringing up babies and toddlers??? That sounds like you had either miracle children or a live in nanny. All the SAHMs I know are all perpetually exhausted. The one SAHW I know however is what you described!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:47 AM
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What does nice even mean? Like... All my partners have been nice. But being nice isn't an attractive quality - it's an expectation of all people, imo. We should all be kind to eachother. We should all aim to be pleasant to be around. I find it really odd the whole "but I'm a nice guy!!" crap... Like, good for you? You're meeting the bare minimum standard? I think younger people of any gender are more prone to poor relationship choices - more taken by appearance and charm. As you get older you le…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:43 AM
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Thank you 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:18 PM
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What? Did you even read what I said? Clearly not lol. I said in what hypothetical situation would someone be unable to work FOREVER and be otherwise UNCHANGED. Sorry but it doesn't take even half a brain cell to realise severe illness and accident do not only affect someone's income! I have been a carer for years for people who've been in horrific accidents or suffered devastating illness. I'm not some weird sheltered middle class dumbo. Ffs dude. Next time before rambling pointlessly to yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:00 PM
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I love being seen as beautiful, I love dressing up and makeup. I love compliments and admiration. I don't love being creeped on, shockingly. I don't love my personal space being violated. I don't love the enormous pressure to be constantly attractive - pressure that has lead to eating disorders and self loathing. I don't love feeling that my main worth is in my face and body - both of which will fade and change with age. Is it really that hard to understand its a double edged sword?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:38 PM
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This is a weird hypothetical question. What situation would lead to someone being completely unchanged yet never able to work again? I can't think of even one. I'm 30 and been with my partner for 8 years through thick and thin, I make more money than him anyway. As long as he contributed more to childcare and domestic life, if he couldn't work then I'd support him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:29 PM
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All the poly hate 😂 so much jealousy that some people are having fun fucking while you're... Not. It's baffling how many guys on here slate women for being overweight... Like why do you care?? Why spend mental energy feeling nasty towards people you don't even know? It's just so stupid. Other people's appearances don't affect you in any way. It's not your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:55 AM
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Women also can be neurodiverse. I think you often need to find someone who matches you. Both me & my partner are autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:40 AM
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I didn't actually say that, read again please. I said as long as he works - even if for some reason only a little - and contributes (ie childcare, cooking, cleaning) equally-ish. I'm not sure what big step back you're imagining? If he lost his job, I'd support him to get another. I don't care if his income is low as long as it exists. If he becomes ill I will support him until he is well again. If he becomes disabled we live in a country where he'd recieve income support and he could work from h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 10:33 AM
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You do realise with many long term relationships we've been with our partners while they've been struggling/"losers"? My partner of 8 years had no job and was homeless when we got together. He's still not the main breadwinner - I make slightly more on average. As long as he works and contributes equally-ish I'm happy. Statistically it's actually men who are more likely to divorce due to their spouse becoming ill (eg cancer) or disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:40 AM
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You don't sound very open minded about it not being a red flag but good luck on your date maybe you should ask her 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:13 PM
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I have no idea what that means but ooook lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:49 AM
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Yes I'm clearly not getting any 😂 I'll let my partner know I'm the Virgin Mary and our child will be the next jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:18 AM
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Nah I don't like too much muscle. I'm not crazy into fat either but I like a lil chub. I'm bisexual and prefer women overall which probably effects my taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:07 PM
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Dude, if you seriously think the point of dating apps isn't to find a relationship I've lost the battle, you are a lost cause 😂 Most people using them are not just looking for a ONS. I've said everything I can say. I think there are perfectly rational reasons to say "no ONS" and you're choosing to ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:21 AM
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Okiii dude if you think scrawny teenagers are chads you've got some very odd standards. Literally the idea that me fucking a bunch of dweeby teens is somehow me hooking up with a bunch of chads is hilarious, flattering but also bullshit. You're just wrong but w/e - for sure some girls only go for hot guys, but others are trying to find love and connection and getting burned. Many women don't realise its going to be a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:52 AM
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Dude when I was young and naive I had butt load of ONS, each time being stupid enough to think they were going to turn into relationships, and they were all with nerds, goth kids, stoners and one older woman. I did sleep with one guy who you might consider a chad (tall, good looking, charismatic) but the rest were dweebs. And a woman twice my age lmao. And yes, I'm very happy, I've got a great friendship group, close family, a long term partner and lots of beautiful life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:27 AM
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That isn't reversing it, that would be "Why assume the best in people?" to which my answer is that it will make you feel happier and more positive about the world. Why sit in misery and bitterness? And to answer you - they're on a freaking dating app, it should be painfully obvious that anyone on a dating app is looking for dates. You don't need to state the obvious. When I've used dating apps I've never added "looking for a relationship" because that is literally the point of a dating app. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:20 AM
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I have a promiscuous past and have never struggled with finding relationships. Truth is, most guys aren't as bothered as this reddit would have you believe. Most guys don't even ask until they're already infatuated and dating and by then they don't care. My current partner of 8 years did actually flinch and we had to have a long talk about it, but by the end of it they were really supportive and understanding, and admitted their reaction was simply insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:44 AM
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It might be because she had one once and it was really awful? Or she's genuinely wanting a ltr? ONS are not only with chads lmao. Why assume the worst in people? Surely you're just making yourself unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:38 AM
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You do realise this is a debate reddit? Why bother sharing your opinion if you have no interest in debating it? Surely the only purpose on being on a reddit for discussion and debate is to expand your own perspective? I would never dream of acting surprised or confused when someone replies to my "opinion" (which you stated as fact fyi) with a different view when posting on a debate forum. Maybe relationships aren't black and white and different things work for different people. And you have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 07:32 PM
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Alpha men : idk why people even use this term but it seems to describe assholes. I do not find arrogance or narcissism attractive. Buff men : if you look like you work out a lot, nope nope. I prefer the lean look or the dad bod. But if I really liked the guy it's not a deal breaker. Neurotypical : I prefer my humans to be autistic or otherwise ND because I'm autistic and I just really struggle to relate Heterosexual : I much prefer bisexual of either gender for dating Clean shaven OR big beard :…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:30 PM
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Why does your experiential evidence matter more than mine? I'm in a happy fulfilling equal partnership. My parents are also in a happy and fulfilling equal partnership. My grandparents are traditional and definitely less happy overall, like happy enough but definitely way more issues and don't feel that romantic or affectionate. I feel really sorry for you if you think me saying my parents still have a genuine attraction and desire for eachother is somehow weird or hard to understand. I feel sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:10 PM
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Haha no but they're open enough that my mum will wink and laugh when they "are going to a hotel for a couple nights" and I once accidentally found a box of erm "stuff" under their bed that I thought was my mums shoe stash 😂 lesson learned, do not snoop in parents bedroom thinking you can borrow some nice boots. You can just tell in their energy. The way they cuddle and flirt reminds me of lovers, not just old fuddy parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:08 AM
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Why are they superior? What evidence have you found for this? Because it really doesn't match up to my experience of relationships. My parents (equal partnership) relationship is vastly superior (they are extremely happy, clearly best friends, still have a crazy sex life bless them, personal and financial success) to any set of my grandparents. Grandparents all had traditional, religious relationships. They all were companionable but I certainly wouldn't call superior... Not particularly affecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:16 AM
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Honestly bud, that doesn't change the fact its completely normal to be attracted to other people. It's backed by science. Humans are generally not capable of only being attracted to one person, it's an unrealistic and unfair expectation and frankly makes it obvious you've never been in a long term relationship. I didn't think or look or dream of anyone else for the first couple of years. Those brain chemicals that make you hyper fixate run out at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:48 AM
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Ermm what... If you're uncomfortable with the idea of your partner having sexual fantasies about other people, definitely don't ever have a relationship. Or marry someone asexual or very low libido. Having sexual fantasies is a completely normal part of hunan sexual psychology. Most people, men and women, will have them. Me and my partner just share ours, it's a healthy integrated part of our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:39 AM
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I didn't start out knowing what I was doing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:08 AM
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Maybe, I'm more interested in someone's eagerness to please and willingness to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:06 AM
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People are just more different than we like to believe. Yeah there are vague generalisations but in reality people are weird and have their own shit going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:49 PM
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I don't think it's that exceptional for a man to prefer stable relationships and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:24 PM
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Ermm... OK 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 08:22 PM
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I've been with my partner for nearly 8 years, I personally think I'm lucky. Most of my friends haven't managed to find someone. I dunno if it's even just match. People don't really want to commit. Even when they seem to match so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:04 PM
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I have a long term partner, try again dude 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:33 PM
2

I feel even more sorry for your wife! The only reason you aren't cheating is because you aren't hot or rich enough?? Does she know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:17 PM
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I feel bad for your wife ngl 😳
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:38 PM
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But a woman might just cheat with one man. Don't get the relevance of this comment tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:26 PM
1

What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:24 PM
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But why does this mean its less bad if a guy cheats? That's what I didn't understand. Surely it's just shitty to lie and manipulate the person you love regardless of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:22 PM
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Yeah that's fair. I do think on point one though, that if a woman found out her partner secretly got a woman pregnant she'd also be utterly devastated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:20 PM
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I mean, lots of guys here are also agreeing with so I don't get what you're not believing 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:15 PM
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That's just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:11 PM
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That's it, I get men have high drives but surely its just shit regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:08 PM
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That doesn't really make sense... I'm a very sexual person and I am the one who requested an open relationship, my partner was actually dubious about it because he doesn't enjoy sleeping around. Seven years later and he still prefers focusing on me on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:06 PM
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Cheating is proof of an inability to commit and lack of honesty and integrity regardless of gender. If I was cheated on, I would definitely break up with the person. I would never be able to trust them again, it would be a hollow relationship. Life is too short to let someone be that dishonest. I'm a loyal honest partner who shares my soul with my partner. To not be given that in return is unforgivable. I have more sympathy with people who cheat when their spouse totally closes off and becomes d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:02 PM
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Yeah but surely ultimately cheating is just bad. I understand why men are afraid of it but actually most women would be pretty damn devastated if their partner got another woman pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:54 PM
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What do you think then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:48 PM
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I definitely think so. I find it weird and shallow when people expect anyone to be "good at sex" rather than that it's a shared mutual sexual journey of discovering each other. Maybe that comes partly from being a queer person, who has been a lot of women's first ever fem experience. I don't expect a woman's first time to be all smooth and suave. Usually a bit better than inexperienced men for obvious reasons, but not by much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:33 PM
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Feeling like anywhere is safe with them, like they are home. Initially lust and high chemistry, but when those feels fade off they are replaced by commitment To sexual adventure and finding mutual pleasure. Knowing I can talk about anything, even if if means arguments. Feeling listened to and acknowledged. Respect and trust. Knowing they'll be there for me. Given trust and loyalty while also being free and loved for who I am without clipping my wings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 01:27 PM
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What's the point in eye for an eye? All you do is prove to good women that you are a horrible person and not worthy of a relationship. Lying and manipulating anyone is clearly wrong. If you don't see that, you are a sociopath or worse. Obviously it's not wrong if the woman knows. But as someone who had to learn the hard way to be conservative around dating and sex, I know how it's not forgettable - it's really damaging and painful and has caused me long term trauma. Genuinely believing a man is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:18 AM
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I've always found it really weird that some women genuinely have preferences. I was shocked the other day when a friend confided in me her bfs was too small. I just don't really get it. But maybe because I am queer so I fuck women? So I'm used to zero dick? Any size works. If I like a finger I'm def gonna like any size lol. I find it kinda shallow and to me it proves the couple Involved don't know how to have good nonPIV sex. If anything, too big is a problem. My partner is borderline too big an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 07:30 AM
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Might have made more sense to reply to the topic rather than my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:15 PM
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But you replied to my post, so I assumed you were talking about me 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:21 PM
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Because you're making it out like those friendships are fake. Yes, most of my male friends probably would be happy to fuck me if they were single or I was interested. It's not a big revelation. It's how guys are wired. It doesn't invalidate those friendships. You can find a friend attractive. You can even fuck a friend while still remaining friends. I fancy many female friends, some of them I've slept with. It hasn't made any impact on our friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:10 PM
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It's only a harsh truth to someone whose had shit luck with friends or relationships. It's not any kind of truth if you have lots of friends. My entire friendship group is mixed gender. We mostly met at music festivals or D&D/board game nights. There was no friend zoning because we have shared interests and hobbies, we have an actual basis for friendship. Most of my guy mates are in relationships already so it would be pretty odd if their main motivation was seeking sex. And I'm bisexual, so by …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:34 PM
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I never stated I was a queen or an angel, but unlike most people on this forum I actually have a relationship and a life. Seeing guys like you bitch with envy is really annoying. It's obvious you don't have great friendships or you wouldn't say the dumb ass shit you say, as you'd know that friendships are meaningful and can exist between any gender or sexuality combination. I am sorry for slinging insults because it's not helpful but seriously you don't understand how annoying it is for someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 04:15 PM
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The fuck are you on about, how is it mental gymnastics, most guys fancy most women, it doesn't mean they also don't have real friendships with women. I fancy loads of my female friends and I don't only want to be their friend because of sex. You've got the problem dude. Says a lot about your kind of friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:57 PM
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What you've triggered is my pity and my sadness that some men, usually incels or manosphere men, genuinely don't believe in platonic friendships. Do all my heterosexual guy mates want to fuck me? Probably, why not. Does that make any difference to our friendship or is the sole reason? No and no Internet loner is going to convince me otherwise. I've had those kind of shallow friendships with men before, especially in my youth. They always blow up fast. My guy mates are long term buddies I bond wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:38 PM
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Dating has never been fair. Women used to be sold or traded for marriage. Your father would decide who you married. Even if that man was twice your age and repulsive to you, cruel and vicious. Women were also massively economically disempowered so had no choice but marriage. Now women have more power, and they wield it. Some definitely abuse it, but that always happens when one party has more power. Without curtailing women's rights how could you fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 03:12 PM
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You do realise autistic women exist, maybe try dating your own neurodiverse type. Me and my partner are both autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:08 AM
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Says the dude that evidently doesn't have friends 😂 people can bond over anything. My entire friendship group is mixed gender and includes asexual and gay guys, not everyone is as pathetically sex obsessed as lonely reddit incels like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 06:25 AM
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I'm glad you also think your hilarious 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:15 PM
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Sure thing dude. All men = exactly the same lol. You go on believing that :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:58 PM
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I'm not going to blame women for men being hypocritical. We're all responsible for our own selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:22 PM
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My bottom basic standards are for a man would be - is capable and willing to at least work a minimum wage job to support us, is moderately clean and groomed, helps 50/50 with house work, remembers my birthday and Christmas, is liked by my family, has some interests or hobbies in common with me, is willing to communicate about feelings and problems, has self control with addiction, doesn't get physical in arguments and makes an effort with my friends. Exactly what I expect of myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:14 AM
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This is so stupid. If we wait, we're manipulative bitches, if we put out, we're whores. Literally cannot win with you guys. Some women don't like rushing sex. Some are religious and waiting til marriage. Some women fuck on the first date. It doesn't have a big abstract meaning, it's not about you. It's a valid fucking choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:04 AM
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Yeah I think you should only be friends with someone if you actually want to be their friend. If you just want to fuck, definitely don't wait for an established friendship. I do occasionally find a FwB but they are usually established early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:48 PM
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Nobody owes anybody friendship or relationships or sex. It's got literally nothing to do with gender. It's a normal boundary everyone should have. I have many close male friends. I'm a gamer and nerdy, I run D&D games and attend them. I like doing activities that are considered more masculine. If one of them becomes so obsessed with me it destroys the friendship, w/e I don't need or want friends like that. Luckily my guy mates are awesome and not just after sex. They know they're barking up the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:03 AM
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Evidence that women's health is prioritised and recieves more funding, please. Considering more women die during surgery if their surgeon is male, and many of women's greatest health concerns have little made progress in recent years, I call bullshit. They didn't even know what the clitoris actually looked like until extremely recently and that isn't a joke. Women's bodies and health are only valued when it's reproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:03 AM
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😂 This is ridiculous. Sure sure, women hate the "manosphere" because they hate men 😂 Sorry but this is really clutching at straws. Women largely don't care what men do if it doesn't make them feel violated and frightened. Don't be so self absorbed. Most women haven't even heard of the manosphere. I do hate it, because I've seen the negative effects it's had on men in real life. I think it has some positives for men, but mixed in there it fuels hatred and toxic behaviour. I can't help but think o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:47 AM
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Don't be friends with women if you don't actually want to be friends. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:20 PM
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No, but the community that enjoys that mockery does share a pool of commonly shared ideologies and arguments. I mean yes it's stupid to actually unironically call yourself blue pill but let's face it it's also ridiculous to call yourself red pill. It's a Matrix reference and so many people don't know that and probably don't understand what it actually means. The Matrix creators were left wing leaning anyway so the entire situation is moronic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:09 PM
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It's a satire sub of The Red Pill, not a random comedy sub. It's purposefully mocking and opposing TRP. What's cringey is how uninformed most people in this sub are in the history of women's rights and marriage. I don't think the OP is super eloquent and obviously there's more nuance than the two being comparable so directly. But in reality many marital relationships are entirely transactional - and function very similar to a prostitute and client relationship. It's true the world over, especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 10:37 AM
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Never noticed that personally, if anything my amount of male friends grows but I am a gregarious nerd :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:35 PM
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Women here with that experience - my teenage years and very early adult I was considered totally undatable. Autistic, overweight (not by much even, but enough to get called fat) - chubby face, big nose, a bit greasy and bad at grooming. I sadly and stupidly used to offer sex or affection out to guys (nice guys, might I add) in hopes it would lead to love and relationships. Naive, yes. It didn't work, got me a reputation at college and made me miserable. I never even dared to approach hot guys, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:04 PM
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The world is full of relationships where the guy ain't a chad. I'm sure this would describe some relationships but it seems pretty odd to leap to the conclusion that most women are like this. Women have different sex drives to men. There are books written on this subject on how to rescue dead beds. Most guys don't seem to want to put effort in. And tbh in my relationship I'm the one who mostly initiates and the one who puts the effort into sexual maintenance and I doubt I'm some kind of holy gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:59 AM
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Dude women are not asexual just because they don't want to have sex with you. I'm really sorry about your situation, it sounds really fucking sad and you don't deserve the rejection and pain and loneliness. I can understand why you'd be bitter. But you also sound like you don't spend enough time around real people. Yes, most women want a partner they find attractive and is competent. Most men also want this. Its rare anyone wants to date somebody they find unappealing. That isn't the same as wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:22 PM
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Erm, I feel like it's stating the obvious saying that most women aren't attracted to all men. Women generally have a very different kind of sexuality. You're wrong about chemistry though. It's way more complex than just physical attraction. I've had serious chemistry with guys I didn't find initially attractive. Don't even get why - subtle things like body language, a certain kind of charisma and confidence, respectful cheekiness, it's just quite hard to break down into words. Also had dead hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 10:12 PM
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Lmao at the idea looks matter more than wealth 😂 I can seriously tell you don't know many rich guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:48 PM
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Haha sure whatever you wanna say dude, you can't slut shame someone who isn't ashamed of themselves 😉 & I'm in a long term relationship with a great partner, so clearly didn't fuck my life up 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:03 PM
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I've had three LTRs with men, and none of them cared about my body count. Most guys I know don't care as long as you have self respect and loyalty in the relationship. Can we please get over this double standard of hoes and players 🙄 If you have slept with a bunch of women but judge them for being sluts you are an asshole. If you're stupid enough to care deeply about someone's past without trusting who they are now, you don't deserve them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:45 PM
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Ain't that the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:48 AM
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I personally think it's a really philosophically difficult situation. It's great that women are really valuing themselves and aiming high. In literally no other area of life would anyone be criticised for aiming high - we're all encouraged to try our best at school, at careers, etc. I also think having good standards and expectations is a reasonable thing to aim for. But it's also really shit and depressing that so many men are lonely and less able to be happy single. It's sad that the average g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:11 PM
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At what point did I deny guys experiences? I totally get that dating is harder on men and that lots of guys are really struggling with loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:05 PM
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I can relate to a lot of this, though I'm lucky enough to have some really beautiful friendships now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:09 PM
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I don't understand the rejection men face beyond listening to men's stories. Just like men don't understand what it's like to be a woman - both men and women suffer and have different perspectives in life. It doesn't help to blame each other or foster hatred for each other. It's the shortest road to staying lonely. Nobody wants to date someone who is bitter and resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:05 AM
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I don't think saying women value everything is the insult you mean it to be. I can understand that it's difficult for some men to date as perhaps women now have high expectations and/or very different needs and tastes to previous generations... But also, perhaps this generation of men are not as attractive overall as previous. Blaming women as the sole cause will only make you unhappy and create even more division, and only make dating harder for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 08:02 AM
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Male only conscription is totally fucking wrong. Any male victim of statutory rape should never have to pay CS - or non biological fathers. And I think circumsision of babies is child abuse. ALL people deserve bodily autonomy, men and women equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:32 PM
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Yeah I get you. I think anyone who feels entitled over other people is wrong. I dunno how some women justify saying things like "if he was a real man" while claiming to be feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:02 AM
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It's wrong when anyone belittles anyone. I've also been told bullshit about how to be a real woman. It's just a shitty part of our culture - there are these ideals, and people shame you when you don't reach them. Women who do this are as bad as men who do this. I just don't think this issue is particularly related to gender. My brother was told to be a real man by his male dentist when he was 12 for being frightened. It's an older generation mindset imo. Sorry for suggesting you were whining, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:50 AM
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"get mad at laws that snatch away their bodily autonomy" Are you suggesting this is exclusive to women? I'm pretty sure most men would be pretty fucking mad if laws were created that told him what to do with his body. How would you feel about forced vasectomy? You all cool with that? This post just comes across as a bitter whine. I hear just as many men talk about a "real man" it's just a dumb ass facet of culture. I hear people talk about "real women" too. It'd all a load of bullshit. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:25 AM
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I definitely agree there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:49 PM
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I think emotional needs are incredibly important, but you need to take a look at yourself if you think it's equal to food or clean water. Or try going on a long hike with no supplies. I get your point for sure but needs fall in a hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:27 PM
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I think both is true! Depending on a mixture of luck and effort imo. Commitment can be a hard road.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:25 PM
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I've never seen or heard of it outside of Reddit, but fair enough. I won't pretend I understand or relate to the women who use it so maybe I just never meet them IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:13 PM
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Also it's harder to grow together if you're more established as a seperate person. I met my current partner 7 years ago and we were both 23... I think it'd be harder to meet a 30 year old and just mesh them into your life. But also I know lots of extremely happy couples who met later on. Like, my two favourite couples are both single mums who were in their thirties who met a really awesome guy to start afresh with. The chemistry is unreal and waaaay better than with eithers previous partners. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:11 PM
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FDS is a sub, it's not a big ideology. Women don't care enough about coming up with complex dating strategies or need to be pick up artists using pseudo science to back up shitty behaviour. There aren't butt loads of women pushing the FDS sub. It's not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:00 PM
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Those are just the male sides of the unhappy relationship coin. Women have equivalent complaints but don't turn to a shiny new idealogue to cope with it. I think there are lots of total honest fair bits of advice and opinion in the TRP but the obsession with it as a complete view on women and dating, with all the misogyny on top, just discredits it imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:43 PM
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Why is it your business? Just don't date women who use social media or post sexy pics. The fuck do you care what other couples do? I love dressing in sexy clothes, I find myself attractive, I enjoy positive attention. Why would I not post pictures I like on my social media? I'm in a non monogamous relationship so it's literally in the boundaries of our relationship to have sexual relationships with other people. What really disturbs me about this is how many of you guys seem to think that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 09:25 AM
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I mean, it's not a need for survival, but for most people it's a need for happiness. I definitely need sex in my relationships. It's a priorty for me. I know asexual people who actively don't ever want sex so obviously not a need for them. Casual sex... Not so much. When I had a phase of pursuing it, the sex was mostly horrible. The guys were selfish and unimaginative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 08:50 AM
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Agreed, it's the main thing I hate about this sub. People make sweeping judgements based on poor quality studies. Or even poorer anecdotal bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:23 PM
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Well, me and my partner have sex with other people so it'd be weird if he didn't like me posting sexy pictures 😂 We are both comfortable with me being sexy and free. I also do semi pro modelling so I kinda need to post sexy pictures on social media for work. Plus, we don't live in the Victorian era and even if we were monogamous we wouldn't consider it cheating to look sexy or look at sexy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:53 PM
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Aww I'm glad you're on a good track too! I feel super bad for guys struggling with loneliness and a lack of affection through dating being hard, but it really irks me that they are bitter about women finding it easy to find casual sex. Like, most women I know don't particularly enjoy casual sex with random guys! It's not a perk to most women. I actually found casual sex with these men to feel disgusting, violating and often very physically uncomfortable or painful, but stupidly i thought my body…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:11 PM
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Feel free to repost those "good points" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:41 AM
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I would call the police, what a dumb ass question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:33 AM
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Cool you enjoy your weird, sad and lonely misogynistic fantasy. And carry on pitying me, your unequal 😂 Feel free my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:20 AM
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Are you genuinely so ignorant that you can't see how you hate women and are projecting your hatred onto us? I don't expect anyone to take a bullet for anyone else. What kind of weird world have you built for yourself. You are warped and need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:13 AM
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When I was aged 16 to maybe 19 I had risky promiscuous phase that was born out of self loathing - being overweight, unattractive, a goth and geek so not appealing to most men. I was desperate for love and attention. I wanted a relationship deep down but that was simply unobtainable. In that phase I started off being kind of obsessed with guys and putting too much faith and need in them. Towards the end, I was wary and yes began to automatically fear men, not that all were bad but just aware that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:09 AM
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Also you are a dangerous and violent human being if you think laws preventing men from beating and raping women are denying them "an advantage" - how sick are you? Women are just as good at school as men. Get over it. There are plenty of reasons girls do slightly better and none of them are feminism. Try again. I've literally never seen someone here slander someone for saying "I want a girlfriend on my level" lmao evidence?? Anyone who says "every x" whether they are women saying all men or vice…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:56 AM
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Dude, your post is literally dripping with hatred for women. You are projecting so hard it's actually ridiculous. Women don't hate you. They don't even notice you most of the time. Hatred requires effort and thought. Women also aren't ubiquitous. Most women have men they deeply love and care for. Maybe you can't relate to this because you don't have loving family or friends, but that only shows that you also don't get out much. Go outside, meet real people. My partner is my best friend. I have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:49 AM
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Wtf are you on about? Men are limited by not being allowed to beat and rape women but it's entitled for women to want to wear shorts or vests in hot weather??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:06 AM
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In the UK, 50% of women at age 30 or younger don't have kids. Increasingly worldwide women are choosing not to by have children. Women are not incubators or mother martyrs. If society cannot produce decent opportunities for relationships and healthy environments for families, we will see a decrease in population. I am excited to have kids, I'm also glad I waited. I'm 30 and I'm in LTR - but most of my friends of equal age have no intention of reproducing. It's an individual choice. Women who wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:34 PM
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Thank you! 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:30 PM
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I'm lucky, I'm from a comfortable background so my parents will support me to be at home with my partner working for my dad. When we can afford a house I'm happy to work part time while child rearing and he can work full time and take less responsibility with childcare. I don't need him to earn a lot. I trust him to work out how to support us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:30 PM
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I think it's valid for women to want men to support the family as well as them. My partner earns less than me on average. We both earn around equivalent of 2k dollars a month each. But he will sometimes earn less as he doesn't have a solid contract. I don't expect a partner to earn more, but I do expect them to earn similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:20 PM
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Yes, I think it's a judgement. We all have judgement, that's normal. I wouldn't date a religious person, you wouldn't date a slut, that's all fine. You're looking for someone like you, so I don't think you're being an asshole. I would feel differently if you'd slept with 50 women but expected a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:11 PM
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It depends on your own history or standards. You don't have to listen to your church. But the Bible does repeatedly mention not judging others as above people mentioned... If you are a religious virgin looking for another religious virgin, fair. I don't judge someone's beliefs even if they are odd. If you've fucked a load of people but you're looking for a virgin, you have double standards and I will judge you as being an asshole. But I'm not religious and I'm a slut in most people's eyes so wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:52 AM
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Huh, I'm also 5ft 2.5 and around 110 - 125lbs and I thought that was pretty average 🤔 well we are quite short I guess 😂 I'm in the UK though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:48 AM
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You've got some odd misinformation going on there. Feel free to show evidence. Sexual assault isn't sexual harassment. You're confusing two terms. Assault requires physical contact. It doesn't include catcalling or lewd comments. The CDC is actually very clear that SV rates are high https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/sexual-violence/index.html Although I don't know why they have attempted rape in the same category, they should be separated. It inflates the statistics. Unfortunately in other cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:12 AM
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What are you calling rare? The rough estimate in my country is 1 in 20. Global estimates are around 1 in 10 but that is also due to some countries having obscenely high rates. Maybe you consider that rare? I personally don't but I guess it's perspective based. By SA I meant abuse not assault, sorry for the confusion. If we included sexual assault the rates are much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:50 AM
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We've been together for seven years and live together, it's not because we are poly. Neither of us slept with anyone else for the first two years and he wasn't more romantic then - he just isn't like that. He did give me a necklace when we first met but never took me on dates or did romantic gestures after that . If anything, his relationship with me and others has meant he has actually grown in that respect and puts more effort in. I felt a lot of pride when he got his girlfriend a really thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:40 AM
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Rape isn't super rare, I work in mental health services and an incredible number of service users have a history of SA. In my friendship group alone there are multiple victims including two guys. Mostly happens in childhood or teenage years. Rape of an adult by a stranger is rare. Rape itself isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:35 AM
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Why does there have to be a romantic gender?? I've never personally experienced it being about gender tbh. Some guys are romantic, some aren't, same with women. I'm always the more romantic one. I write love letters, poems, buy gifts, make cards, make breakfast in bed... My partner of seven years just about remembers my birthday 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:05 AM
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Most of my favourite modern musicians are women, for example Agnes Obel. I think women generally make better singers overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:43 AM
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Okay you can keep that weird warped homoerotic viewpoint if you want but honestly it sounds like you have some deep issues. I personally think both men and women are amazing and contribute to this world, and that nature is what makes the world beautiful. Enjoy your obsession with men though 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:40 AM
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Assuming you only like classical and historic art and music as that is what you posted... Sofonisba Anguissola Artemisa Gentileschi Judith Leyster Rosa Bonheur Frida Kahlo And that's just classical artists from a time era where women were discouraged from pursuing art careers. There are countless modern female artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:23 AM
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You didn't answer me, I asked if you genuinely don't know any female artists or musicians that you believe are as good as male ones, or any female waf heroes. I'm guessing your answer means you don't? Men can't exist without women. The world as we know it, would and cannot exist without women. Therefore it is an amazing place because of men and women. I am baffled by your lack of logic regarding this. It is impossible for men to exist without women, and most wouldn't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:17 AM
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Wow, do you really not know any musicians or artists that are women whom you'd consider as good as you're favorite men? And you don't know any women who are war heroes? I think you don't really want to acknowledge women even when they show outstanding bravery and passion. There are countless examples and you choose to see none of them. The world is an amazing place because of nature. Men cannot exist without women. None of this would exist, including you, without a woman birthing and raising eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:35 AM
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You can do as you want. It's your life. However, I definitely judge guys that do this to women who were friends for a long while before. I've had it happen to me a few times, even when it was the other way round (me being rejected) and it really hurts to feel like someone who was meant to be a friend, as in being friends was a prior connection, and just because of some romantic awkwardness that friendship is terminated. I'm a great friend - I'm almost always emotionally available, I love boardga…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:38 AM
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For dramatic effect? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:16 PM
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It doesn't sit well with you because you are a monogamous person in a monogamous relationship - It wouldn't be right for you. I do not want monogamy and never have, even when I was a very young teenager. I can fall in love and have strong feelings for multiple people, I don't experience much jealousy, I feel a lot of compersion (I experience joy when my partner is happy in another relationship) and I have a wide sexual appetite. Why be in a relationship? Because that also feels good and natural …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:05 PM
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Wow, you really hate women don't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:20 AM
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You might wanna reread what you wrote, you said more women then men cheat, not more women in a specific age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:11 AM
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If you don't want it, it's unhealthy because it's unwanted behaviour. If my partner did any form of mate guarding I would be appalled. But we have a very firm agreement that we are seperate entities and individuals, and neither of us accept any controlling behaviour. We aren't monogamous and it's a firm boundary in our relationship. I don't judge other people if it's in their relationship agreement to be like that. If it's consensual and non abusive it's none of my business. I guess the reason p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:09 AM
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Love how I was attacked for not replying with a yes or no but none of you guys can answer this simple question 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:47 AM
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I think you are just more attracted to men honey 😂 As a bisexual woman I assure you I much prefer women not dolled up. That homely look is sexy asf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:41 AM
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It can definitely be creepy, but I agree it's not inherent. If she's really immature and childish, and still looks like a young teen, it's definitely weird. If he only dates girls 18 - 19, it's definitely weird. But I dated a 32 year old when I was 19 and it wasn't abusive. I broke up with him six months in because the chemistry wasn't there. When I was 21 I dated a 45 year old who to this day is still basically my family. I've had a relationship with a younger woman too. The chemistry started b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:16 PM
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I agree it really sucks not getting to experience it. I would probably be a pretty angry and bitter if I had stayed trapped in that phase. But yeah, grass is always greener. I mean, if it wasn't for horrible predatory guys it would be a no brainer - ofc it's better getting to be seen as sexually attractive than not... But eventually the amount of abuse makes it seem less appealing. I will honestly admit I wouldn't trade my place with a man's. I think for all the bullshit that comes with being a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:08 PM
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Still are what? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:54 PM
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I don't need attention on reddit, I'm a semi pro model I get plenty on my actual work portfolio 😊 besides, I'm not adverse to positive attention. I literally said I don't want abuse or rape lmao you need to reread what I've written. I would sacrifice compliments to never get abuse ever again, yeah. I post my model pictures because I might find a photographer on reddit and it's convenient. And I'm proud of my work, just like someone posting paintings ✨ I'm also bisexual and I love attention from …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:11 PM
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Enjoy your lack of understanding nuance 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:10 PM
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It's a loaded question because you want woman to think they have so much privilege just because men both find them desirable and are willing to be threatening and abusive to express that desire. I don't want special treatment from men. I don't want abuse and rape. Why the fuck is this so hard to grasp. I like compliments from both genders. Would I sacrifice any form of attention to ensure I was always safe? Nope. But I'd happily never be hit on by a man ever again if it meant I'd never be sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:02 PM
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It doesn't make me more attracted to anyone. It's a huge bonus, don't get me wrong. I would love it if my partner was rich 😂 I don't care about status. I would actively prefer a partner that wasn't famous or in a leading role. I want a peaceful private life. I've had a wealthy boyfriend and I dumped him over lack of chemistry. He had a fancy car and plenty of cash but that isn't enough. Second boyfriend had a business, house, family money, and we had an amicable break up as our age gap was too b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:58 PM
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You know as well as I do that this question is not a random hypothetical question, it's based on incel ideas and experiences, and is written to seem as if it's "the average woman vs the average man" - it's a fully loaded question and it's written to lead an answer, not to gather knowledge nor to hear people's real opinions and experiences. I'm not going to grace a stupid question with a stupid answer. I'm always happy to have real discussions and debates, I'm not going to buy into bullshit. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:30 PM
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If all attention includes rape and violence, yes I'll take being invisible. Again, it's pretty sad that that is even a question. The fact you think this is a simple discussion speaks for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:19 PM
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It's not a real question, you can tell from the answers that he is not interested in actual discussion or discourse. Posing an opinion or a belief as a question is stupid. Lots of women would rather no attention then bad attention, yes. Some wouldn't. We're not a homogeneous group. I personally would rather no attention than to be assaulted. To me it's obvious and I find it sad that there are men who would genuinely rather suffer predatory behaviour than have to actually put in effort to attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:05 PM
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I was actually considered ugly and unattractive as a teenager. I grew out of it and worked hard on myself to be considered more attractive. I didn't actually realise I wouldn't get attention so much once I shaved my head, it was a surprise to me. I like attention. I liked it much more when I was young, immature and fresh out of being seen as ugly. I was almost hooked on it. But I did suffer a lot of weird harrasment in that time period. Now I'm older I get mostly positive attention and that's ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:52 AM
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When I shaved my head I almost immediately stopped getting male attention and it was great 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:42 AM
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Those are not comparable. You've ignored my point. You are basing your entire ability to commit to someone on a moral judgement - and yes, it is moral, because it's a blanket judgement based on some random shite you've read on the Internet rather than your lived experience. If you meet an incredible woman and you start dating, she is in every way perfect and clearly has good mental health and a stable life, but you break up with her because of her past sexual history - you are without a doubt ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:10 AM
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You posted an Internet article of a single study, that isn't science. We're also talking about a moral judgement, also not science. This is, in fact, not a science reddit, nor are we having a conversation about a scientific subject. It's not logical to base your choice of life partner on a moral judgement. You could perhaps say "I would be hesitant to date somebody with a high body count, as it feels like a potential red flag" and not sound illogical or like you have terrible judgement, but the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:51 AM
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You can find studies to prove anything, we all know it's bullshit. I'm in a seven year relationship with my partner who I'm about to start a family with, and I have a high body count 🤔 I have a career, hobbies, friends... Huh. Strange how this big red flag of yours didn't match up to our reality. But you do you, and remain both judgemental and lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:28 AM
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What is logical about it? It's a purely emotional judgement so I don't get in what reality you think it's logical. Body count is morality. It has no basis in rational thought. Women have a high body count because they choose, or have chosen, to be promiscuous. That is the only fact attached to high body count. Everything else is fantasy and assumption. It might be because, shock horror, she enjoys sex and hasn't been ready to settle down. It might be because when was she younger she had self est…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:15 AM
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That isn't your own judgement, it's a very traditional moral judgement based in assumption. Your own judgement would be meeting somebody, dating them and letting it unfold into a natural loving relationship without being attached to preconceptions of what she should be. If you find someone attractive, and they are conscientious, kind, loving and can provide a stable, happy life, that is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:00 AM
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So you're saying you have such little trust over your own judgement of how stable a partner is that you need to use a body count as a yard stick? Just be happy in a relationship that is fufilling with someone you love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:47 AM
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Why does that make sense to you? Do you ask every women you meet how many people she's slept with? How'd you know you haven't met incredibly stable, content women with a high body count? Would you genuinely break up with the love of your life who is otherwise perfect, due to a high body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:22 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:05 AM
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I won't deny that. Tbh most women I know have only had one proper bad relationship and then are ultra careful afterwards. There is a minority who fall into bad patterns. Yet most guys on this reddit seem to think its virtually all women 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 08:35 AM
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Do you genuinely think it's just based on poor choice alone and has nothing to do with abusive people being good at manipulating and controlling vulnerable people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:22 PM
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That lady is full of shit. Height preferences are just as cultural. We all used to be shorter. Shes just justifying her own shallowness. I think sexual preferences are a mixture of biological and cultural. I think it's very hard to fully understand what part comes from where even. Also, we're all very individual in our preferences. I don't think it makes sense to say body hair preference is biological as women naturally grow hair when they are no longer children. If anything men should find a bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:56 AM
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Not in my experience in the UK, I have loads of male friends and my long term partner is my best friend. I'm into nerdy gaming, reading, nature - hiking camping etc many art and music hobbies, circus, modelling, cooking, gardening... I'm unlikely to be boring company unless you hate extraverts. If you're only finding women you tolerate but don't actually like, probably looking in the wrong places.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:50 AM
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I've literally seen multiple friends have narcissistic boyfriends that love bombed, gaslit and abused them. In the past we would have just called them manipulative abusers, people are only using new lingo. Narcissists have always existed, that word always existed. First read about it in a psychology book fifteen years ago. It's not actually new. Is it over used? For sure, but don't invalidate people's actual abuse without knowing what you're talking about. Narcissists are often attractive and ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:30 AM
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I think being seen as a potential date is possible for most men, which is why I think the self improvement stuff is the way. You can't change other people, but you can change yourself. It's a brutal world if you don't know how to play the game (unless you were dealt lucky cards)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:04 AM
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Well yeah not many people are gonna want to date someone they don't imagine being good for a long term relationship are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:50 PM
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My real life experience of women just doesn't reflect that. Especially looks wise - I can't think of many couples I know where the woman isn't the more typically attractive one. I think women are more concerned with having a partner that will provide great companionship, great sex, a stable home life and love. And honestly? Lots of men aren't up to that standard. Which isn't their fault, definitely not blaming people for bad mental health, no career, lack of sexual experience or lack of social s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:29 PM
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A lot of women on this reddit say they aren't that bothered by looks or that they don't think they're important, which is true for some women/people but definitely not a general truth. I am even guilty of saying that when I know it's only a half truth. Tbh I find women discussing height and penis size kind of weird, I'm glad none of my friends are like that. I get not wanting to date a guy shorter/same height and wanting a penis you can feel, but I find it just as gross as guys preferring big bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 08:51 PM
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It shows that you don't understand the modern witch. I'm into herbalism and the psychological benefits of ritual, ceremony and intention in every day life. I'm agnostic as to whether I believe in magic, or God, or anything else intangible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:13 PM
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I didn't realise you knew what I believed in or any details of my life 😜
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:05 PM
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My point is that some women like it. And if you struggle to find them, you have to learn to develop other attractive qualities. What do you expect? You would be up for dating a girl you didn't find attractive or cute?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:10 PM
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My partner is the epitome of not socially acceptable 😂 But he's autistic and so cute he gets away with it. He's charismatic and attractive which I think does give more scope for being weird/authentic. The idea women mainly want chads is a bit silly imo. Maybe when they are young but I for one am not interested in guys like that because they're always arrogant and annoying and usually bad in bed anyway. But I know the dating world is weird and kind of cruel. I've seen it badly disadvantage male f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:42 PM
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Definitely, women put in so much effort to enhance looks and dress with style compared to men. Men and women are both potentially shallow. I think women are more likely to mature out of it - by the time I was 21 I was much less shallow, and I've always been capable of crushes on people that aren't typically hot. Looks still matter to me to an extent but nowhere near as important as personality, creativity, shared interests, moral values etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:24 PM
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I think dating does suck for men, and that many men don't understand how to appear attractive in a deeper sense. Charisma and interesting hobbies are so important, and I believe if you're not natural gifted in looks you can add a lot by being fit, stylish, etc but these are qualities often not encouraged or out of reach due to MH reasons for young men. And that is shit. I don't blame women for having standards, or men for struggling to fit them. I think "looks don't matter" actually applies to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:18 PM
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No I'm not. I have never thought to myself "she's a 10!" - I divide people into not my type, not attractive to me, neutral, attractive and very attractive. I never think of people as ugly and I never think in numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:35 PM
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No I'm trying to get pregnant 😂 I'm a woman. I also have a boyfriend. I'm not gay but I'm in a gay pairing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:36 PM
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Gay people do have kids, I had multiple friends at school with gay parents and I have a girlfriend and am trying to get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:29 PM
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Working out and being as fit as possible definitely helps. Being stylish - looking well groomed and like you actually think about the clothes and accessories you wear. Having a unique aspect to your style. I think developing charisma is more important though personally. I've got a male relative whose short but he's charming - he's 5ft 4 and still has dates. No he's not rich hah. It's not about being polite or nice or anything too fake, but learning how to express yourself in an attractive way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:17 PM
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Not at all. My partner i actually trust, so will always get the best side of me. Probably the worst too 😂 I can't even orgasm with new people. My partner knows my body so well. And we don't have sex all the time, so when we do it's still exciting and fresh despite 7 years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:58 PM
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Yeah it was mentioned earlier, but while the breakup rate is high lots of long term lesbian couples exist too 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:54 PM
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😂 Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:53 PM
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It's a real problem 😂 I find gay women do a lot of confused "is this a date? A friend? Is this a sexy situation? Is this just a cuddle??" I can't speak for all lesbians but I personally often make the first move nowadays. With my girlfriend though I often let her initiate as she is 8 years younger and it feels appropriate to our dynamic but sometimes I'll initiate if it feels particularly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:52 PM
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Fair answer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:31 PM
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I'll remember to tell my partners they are mostly bullshit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:30 PM
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Fair enough you feel you haven't been hypocritical in this regard, I just find it exasperating how many RP guys are happy to heavily Slate women without taking any heat back.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:01 AM
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Oooo I see. Yeah no you can't 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:56 PM
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No clue what this means 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:51 PM
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Why? Obviously these people only care about psychology and relationships as it pertains to their interests. That's not a whole lot of interest in the psychology or mating habits of giraffes either. That's not true, I've seen animals mating habits used as examples in doubtless debates. Jordan Peterson and his lobster did the rounds at one point. No I think most of redpill is about juggling multiple women at the same time, aka spinning plates. But of course there is content in red pill for relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:50 PM
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Oh I do understand, and I think it's incredibly sad. I wish I could offer some solace or help. The world feels very broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:38 PM
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I guess I just find it odd that a group that claims a strong interest in psychology and relationships would ignore queer dynamics. But I am a curious person and I like to understand people. I don't think so, I think red pill seeks to teach people about human nature and sexual strategy, and it is up to you what you do with it. Interesting, but isn't much of its premise based on people wanting monogamy? I guess because polyamory is so rare it's seen as an outlier so not of consequence. You really …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 11:24 PM
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I should tell my poor boyfriend of seven years that 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:54 PM
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Thanks, I think polite indifference is better than I expected and validation is a bonus. I say the same about other people's relationships eg RP style or whatever - if it works and people are content, great for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:21 PM
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I have a lot of dating privilege which I think allows me to play my cards as I want. I guess like an honest poker player with a good hand. I think dating is harder for non neurotypical men too, I am good at masking and people don't realise I'm autistic. I have only ever dated other autistic/neurodiverse people because I find it easier to understand and less games.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 09:18 PM
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Strange, I can't imagine having strong opinions and ideas about relationships/psychology without including lgbt ones but fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:37 PM
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Are like what? I mean if all lesbian relationships were awful they probably wouldn't happen as much. Personally as queer person I know loads of amazing gay woman couples. I've known a couple pretty abusive ones but still a minority just like with any coupling. My relationship with my current girlfriend is great. We've known each other for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:35 PM
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Yeah I'm autistic and that definitely effects how I view the world and humans. Outsider vibes haha. I think it also affects how I date. I'm very honest, don't play games, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:32 PM
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I can't flaw what you've said, thank you for the thoughtful response. I'm glad I'm an anomaly but I think it's important to understand how broader society works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:14 PM
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Good question, at least 5? Only one seriously though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:12 PM
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I am not "red pill," exactly because I don't see this as entirely one-directional, unjustified, or abnormal; absolutely, women in general, and bi/lesbian women in particular, have problems and face challenges, but this is not the Oppression Olympics, we don't have to pick a side and denigrate the opposition. 👏 Right on
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 06:06 PM
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Hunter gatherer residential groups average around 15 members in the most dispersed phases and 50 members in the most aggregated phases. I wouldn't call that a "big group". 50 is definitely big when you take into consideration infant mortality. I wasn't comparing them to agricultural societies. But your information is only partly correct, groups of 150 - 500 have been found too. When tribes started to form. And even though everyone pitches, children are still primarily the responsibility of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:54 PM
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But sociology and psychology are both soft sciences. They aren't based on hard fact. I studied both and it's not like physics or maths. You can make very educated theories but they are not facts. We're essentially all trying our best to work it out. I think the real truth is often a mixture of all these perspectives and opinions, nobody will ever get it perfectly right. I think both BP and RP have truths. I've really loved it, it's incredible. Lots of Europeans want to move here. I'm in Chiapas …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:43 PM
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ONS: I only did them when I was an unhappy, unloved teenager to avoid being involuntary celebate. I wouldn't do them again, they made me feel hollow and used. FwB: it's insanely rare I'd jump into bed quickly in this scenario but has happened. I expect being treated as a friend primarily, and I enjoy this dynamic as its less intense than a relationship and more focused on fun. Relationship: I'm actually way more likely to quickly become intimate if I think it's a solid one. My current partner of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:38 PM
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Your experience is common for a lot of men, it's a big problem society faces. I don't really feel like I even begin to understand the answer. Self improvement is the only option and it doesn't work for everyone. I'm in an insanely privileged position and I don't know how to make it better for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:08 PM
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Trans people and gay people do have children 😂 How did you not notice this. I'm planning on having a child this year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:01 PM
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I just don't think it's helpful because it divides people. I don't use that kind of language myself, because it feels inauthentic and incorrect. I am autistic though and can take things very literally. And some men here are being literal. I'm currently travelling in Mexico, I'm from the UK!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:59 PM
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Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:56 PM
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I relate. I think some of RP concepts are true for most of society. Definitely not all of them though, I see garbage too and pop science. But I do think the left is often in denial and is dismissive of mens suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:45 PM
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Haha well lesbians often at least try to put in equal work. Me and my girlfriend had the slowest courting in the world but that's also because she was only 18 when I started seeing her and I was 26. It feels pretty stable but it's weird that we're just making it up as we go along?? Like with a dude you basically know how it's expected to go. I love lesbian connections though for many reasons. I'm lucky I get to experience both. She fixes stuff, she's better at DIY then most men. She's a badass. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:43 PM
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If anything, the difference in societal treatment of lesbian couples as opposed to gay male couples only reinforces RP theory. How so? I've seen this in discussion before. There are some points I completely agree with, gay men have definitely struggled so much worse overall. But being a lesbian or bisexual woman has its own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:29 PM
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Very true. I am here for a reason, I think it's important to hear these fringe ideas. I wouldn't feel comfortable having a world view built solely by my peers. I wanted to understand more why or how men end up so lonely or resentful so I could be more compassionate and understanding rather than afraid of their hunger or rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:26 PM
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I think sex and hormones plays a huge role in gender, for sure. Culture and environment does too, however. Both are also so interwoven it's difficult to fully understand what comes from where. But I definitely agree that some people refuse to acknowledge the role of biology in who we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:21 PM
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Yes women are fickle, picky and harder to date. I won't deny some poly people are AF/BB acting, but many are based on love and mutual support. I wouldn't bother doing poly if I wanted to " upgrade" I would just dump my partner and pick someone else. I have a lot of dating privelege so it wouldn't be that hard. We aren't a triad, she isn't his girlfriend, but yeah I've seen some dodgy ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:19 PM
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Fair, I personally find both pervasive patterns and exceptions interesting and useful. I did study both psychology and sociology though so figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:15 PM
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That makes her a shitty person but that definitely isn't the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:11 PM
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So you only think about it to support claims or ideas and wouldn't take into consideration the situations where it contradicts your beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:04 PM
2

Thank you, I don't check TRP often so that's a great heads up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:54 PM
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Definitely true, I don't know why I am less like that. Too much romantic content growing up I guess 😂 all those studio ghibli films.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:54 PM
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Sure, I guess a lot of people here talk in generalisations and absolutes as if they are solid facts. It bugs me so bad even though I know it shouldn't. It makes me feel like most men resent or hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:52 PM
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I have literally never seen any RP guys talk about gay people or trans people which is why I'm asking. I'm also curious for other people's opinions too though, not just RP. And while I agree the dating strategy doesn't apply, surely the theories they are based on are inherently weakened by the existence of lgbt or are gay relationships seen as too exceptional to count? Haha I'm just curious. I find people fascinating and while much of this community is very sad to me, I also find it interesting …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:50 PM
2

There is plenty of evidence that hunter gatherers lived in big communal groups, not only small families.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:46 PM
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This reddit makes me sadly very aware. I live in a bubble apparently. I still naively believed people dated for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:43 PM
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I had to be vague because I am referring to most of the core discussions people seem to have. Eg women primarily want a man to provide money, shelter, baby Men want beauty, sex, clean house, food cooked Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:41 PM
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Are there never bisexual RP people? *that choose heterosexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:39 PM
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But a lot of RP is dynamics of opposites, which are obviously quite different in lgbt relationships. I guess not many people have tried applying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:38 PM
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I'm purple leaning blue, if you have time could you extrapolate? Some of them just don't translate well at all. Because it is so situated in polar gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:37 PM
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My partner cried a bit on our first date and that was me hooked. I'm a softie and I love openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:36 PM
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I don't think you understand my question but cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:36 PM
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Then say it. I don't say "men only want pussy" anymore than I'd say "women only want nice guys" why generalise. It's just divisive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:35 PM
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Okay that's fair if she's not reciprocating, it should always be somewhat equal or its out of balance with give-take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:18 PM
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Bodyguard is protection, I think you mean henchman if she's asking you to fight people. I expect my partner to protect me, yes. And absolutely, being in a relationship involves being each others confidante, someone you can talk to about anything and share your problems with. Me and my partner both help each other through crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:59 PM
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I like my men feminine, how else am I gonna keep them in the kitchen and doing all my cleaning 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:57 PM
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You sound like you've never been in love my poor dude. Or that you don't have much sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:56 PM
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*some women It's so unnecessary to lump all women together. I won't even go on a date unless I'm sure I actually like the person after lots of messaging. My current partner was dead broke when I met him and he didn't pay for a date in whole until my birthday this year 😂 we've been together seven years. We split 50/50 normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:47 PM
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The first one yes. The second one and the third one make you sound like a terrible boyfriend tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:44 PM
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Humans are social and cooperative mammals. We're not solitary. Yes, violence and war are an utterly important facet of our existence, but so is community, compassion, sharing, empathy and love. We would not have survived if we hated each other. Example - it's now well known that we looked after the sick, disabled and elderly, which literally makes no fucking sense at all if were just brainless violent savages. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/17/878896381/ancient-bones-offer-clu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:55 PM
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Actually many anthropologists now think it's more likely we raised children together in a tribe than in mating pairs. Keep up to date on this stuff. And always remember it's not fact, none of us were there to witness it 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:49 PM
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I'm an inbetweeny - I'm both feminine and masculine for sure. I'm very dominant, I often hide my feelings behind stoicism, I control my feelings to the point of sometimes coming across as a little cold - logical, I talk a lot and will talk over people/interupt if I'm over excited, I love building fires and chopping wood, etc My partner is my opposite in many ways. He is sensitive, easily moved by emotion, prone to worrying, he loves nurturing things (mainly plants haha) he can be quiet or withdr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:41 PM
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If I didn't say the phrase "women are better than men" don't extrapolate. You're not reading between the lines, you're making an assumption based on your own bias. I was saying I kinda get why so many women think this. A lot of women have been treated fairly badly by guys, and don't have positive examples of men. Same is true in reverse. Its never a good thing to start being hateful towards an entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:26 PM
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I'm in a long term relationship, I haven't been strung along for many years lmao not applicable to me. I just think this sounds pretty weird and it doesn't reflect my experiences at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:16 AM
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What do you mean by don't calculate because you don't have to? I thinking rating people is weird, it's not the same as saying "omg she's so beautiful" - giving people a number seems creepy and dehumanising to me. So much of attraction to me is based on non appearance qualities that I don't even know how I'd do it. Also, my attraction to someone is fluid and can change easily, nobody would have a static number anyway. I'm glad nobody has ever numbered me before, people don't do it really in my co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 05:13 AM
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I know it's hard to believe things can get better, and in a way I think it's best to learn to be happy single and just keep an open heart to the idea of relationship love. I really foster my friendships so I feel a strong support safety net if anything bad happened. Wishing you all the healing and happiness possible!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:41 PM
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I'm sorry for all your trauma, that's really awful. I definitely have been shaped for good and bad by relationships. When I was younger and naive I was used and abused, not full rape but sexual assault and coercion. I thought I was super ugly and fat so I was promiscuous to try and make up for it. Luckily as I became an adult I discovered my worth and self respect. I had a few guys I was dating turn out to be users, but I was quick to cut them free. I've been in relationship for seven years now …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:54 PM
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Such a gross concept, I hope the majority of people don't date like this. I know it's not normal in my friendship group but I don't have mainstream friends. I have never looked for dates in desperation. I like being single not that I've been single for many years now. I don't know how desirable I am to the average man, I'm semi-promiscous (I won't do one night stands but I'll consider a lover or fwb arrangement) I'm fairly attractive and tick a few boxes but I don't think I've ever dated a man o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:20 PM
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Ass holes and users exist in all genders. You'll obviously think women take more cause you date women, I presume. There are still good people out there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:14 PM
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That makes no sense, they could use a condom 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:13 PM
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And you have loads of experience? My experience has been that it depends on the individuals involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 08:02 PM
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All bisexual women are the same are they? 😂 I am literally always buying my partner gifts, I spoil him every birthday and Christmas. Also necessities like socks and food because he is awful at shopping. I also make all of our plans because he has adhd and has no organisational skills. You live under a literal rock if you're not aware that women genuinely buy boyfriends thoughtful gifts and make plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:48 PM
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Do you genuinely believe what you're saying? It sounds like you don't believe that people can be happy or in love when they have less desirable traits. Pretty sad and nihilistic but fair play if that's how you want to see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:41 PM
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In what way will it help the current crisis of so many men being lonely to tell them to reject women for having any "undesirable traits"? Sorry but you are actively encouraging people's unhappiness. Luckily most men don't think like you or we'd be in even darker times.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:32 PM
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If all men only considered having relationships with young, attractive, thin, non mums and prudes there'd be a lot of very lonely men. It's not a solution to the problems we face for all men to reject these groups of women except for sex. I also have two best friends who were briefly single mums after each one split up with their original partners and both within two years had new partners, both of which are attractive and have good careers, so your point doesn't even carry into real life. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:12 PM
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You've totally lost me, sorry 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:08 PM
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Yeah I see that it's probably not how real life goes. Or at least I hope not. Dating has become an increasingly confusing game.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:07 PM
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In what world is it hypocritical to say our standards should be based on the ones we apply to ourselves? That's literally the opposite of hypocracy. I think both men and women can have unrealistic standards and expectations. I see it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:58 PM
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I'm already with someone long term so I don't need to adjust my standards 😂 I just apply my own standards of myself to other people. Tbf I set the bar lower than my own, because my own standards for myself are extremely high. I am into fitness, appearances, diet, cooking, music, art, have many hobbies, travel, have a big social life, etc. I don't expect anyone I date to be as intensely into self improvement as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:51 PM
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Yes, I do think men should alter their standards if they are struggling to date. Is that really that unconventional? I was only sharing my personal life as an example. You can be happy and have a thriving love life, whether it's through self improvement or changing standards or re-evaluating what is attractive. I just don't think it makes sense to automatically reject huge groups of people if you're not getting dates. Within reason, like I definitely do vet people heavily, both my partners are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:46 PM
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You'll find someone if you keep it up. Self improvement is the only real answer. I've been with someone for 7 years now, it's a relationship of love and I'd always say letting your heart lead is best unless you have terrible judgement 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:29 PM
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Only if he's desperate. I've been turned down by men before, and I'm charismatic and attractive. Some guys don't enjoy sleeping around, like my partner - he genuinely doesn't like it, and yes he's attractive and he's tried it. Other guys are loyal and have a crush or interest they don't want to cloud up. Some guys find sex intimidating. Some are a sexual or gay. Some are mature enough to not want to fuck a woman they don't find hot. There are literally so many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:27 PM
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But you didn't just make a statement, you said they were my beliefs, which they aren't. I actually feel understanding towards people who cheat even if I think it's shitty. I have a huge circle of friends of equal gender split. I don't hate men. I actually really empathise with what a shit deal most men get. I don't believe women in western countries are loads worse off then men. Actually I think men have the shitty deal in lots of ways. I would always put responsibility on the cheater, abuser, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:20 PM
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Yeah I'm glad my partner doesn't care, he actually prefers no make up. I wouldn't really use it if I didn't model, I'm confident but not enough to go agaisnt industry standards anymore than I already am by being short and having big hips 😂 I love hearing success stories on here, thank you for giving me hope 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:14 PM
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I'm also discussing the general dating market. Of which I am part of. I don't care if you don't want to hear my personal life, my point is that I'm successfully and happily dating and I think if men are genuinely avoiding women for those reasons they are shooting themselves in the foot. If you don't care about one woman's opinion why are you on this reddit, it's purely for people's personal opinions 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:12 PM
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Maybe guys also need to adjust their standards then? There are loads of incredible single mums, fat girls, older women, etc and equally loads of horrible hot girls. Chemistry and attraction are important yes but why make your dating pool small for no real good reason? There's reasonable standards and silly ones imo. Surely the most important thing is that you're compatable...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:09 PM
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I don't get the fertility thing unless you want a family, but I find older women hot so maybe I just don't get it. The single mum thing is definitely a fair point, you should only do it if you want a family. I get not finding unhealthy people attractive too, but I do feel like guys can be overly picky about their "ideal body" on women. Your last paragraph is how I feel too. I have had lovers and relationships with less conventional attractive people and ended up finding them really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:05 PM
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Why isn't it about me? I'm a woman 😂 how is it not about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:41 PM
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Why are you arguing with me then? I agree that kids need a variety of good role models. I also think you can have good male role models without a male partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:22 PM
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Some of them are! Narcissistic men often have big friendship groups. Red flags are way more obvious once you've been fooled once. My mum raised me to spot red flags so I've never had a toxic relationship but I'm a rarity, most women learn the hard way. Your last paragraph is so true though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:18 PM
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Why does it matter particularly if a woman is a slut, older, fat or a single mum? I'm bisexual and none of those are disqualifiers for me. Unless by older you mean over 40 but I'm only 30 so that's reasonable. Around five to ten years either side of dating age seems fair. I'd only date people I'm attracted to but I think dad bods and curvy women are sexy. And I would have no issue dating a single mum cause I love children. My body count is high so no problems there either. Also the dating pool i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:15 PM
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I definitely think if I was a guy I would've been involuntarily celibate at school and college. I think as well for me, the biggest factors were being fit, no longer being a teenager and being so oily, and learning to play to my strengths. It doesn't matter so much if you have one or two traits most people consider unattractive if you highlight the best bits. I wish society was less appearance focused though. I know I'm guilty of vanity myself, obviously or I wouldn't do modelling. It's like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:04 PM
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There isn't just the truth. Everyone's truth is different. You're setting yourself up for a very narrow world view if you start believing opinions are the truth. I don't know the truth, which is why I'm on purple pill. I think red, blue and black all make valid points and I want to hear them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:53 PM
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Out of my close friends, the majority. We are in our late twenties to forties. The older ones are in much happier relationships than the young ones, often. But outside of my circle? Not many at all. 1 in 10 maybe. It's sad and I don't fully get why. I think maybe a lot of people don't want to compromise or have high expectations of what LTR are like? But I don't really know why. My mum and step dad have an incredible marriage of 20 years, it's the most beautiful relationship I know. Still have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:47 PM
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That's also stupid lmao I don't think women are perfect and blameless. Hating entire groups of people is always shitty for all involved. We're all people and need to be seen on an individual level. So many men here talk about women in blanket terms with so much hate and aggression. It's just childish, the world isn't that black and white. Same for women that hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:38 PM
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Interesting to read. Women are already on that train, thus make up, heels, sexy clothes, plastic surgery, lip filler, hair dye... I don't know what numbers I'd give myself but when I was a teenager I was overweight and not very hot, didn't know how to dress well, greasy hair, spots, nobody wanted to date me. If I'd been a dude I wouldn't have ever gotten attention but yes being a women means you get guys willing to pretend to like you (lucky us lol) - I'd guess I was a 4/10 to most people. My no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:27 PM
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You didn't even reply to what I said, you just said random vitriol. Why are you here if you can't be bothered to have a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:46 PM
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I'm not a male? I think a cheater is solely responsible for their own actions. I'm not man hating and have three brothers I'm very close to, as well as a male partner, so why would I be judgemental to men like that? If a woman cheats it is her fault, if a man cheats its his fault. I don't blame people for their partners deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:45 PM
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Men are also great at hiding abuse. Many men won't show any signs of abusive behaviour until a relationship is established. In fact some of the typical warming signs of a potentially abusive relationship include that "it feels too good to be true" - "he gives frequent gifts, affection, money, etc" aka love bombing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:18 PM
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So you're admitting that many men are struggling to get dates because they don't date women with a high body count, or older women, or fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:53 PM
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Dating is just hard. It's hard for different reasons for different people. I think it's worse for guys overall - but it sucks for lots of people. I personally don't have chemistry with many people and chemistry is important to me. I'm in a happy ltr but before then it was always difficult for me. I think men seriously overestimate women's value for looks. Unless you're super short (which is bullshit I agree) or obese, most women aren't as bothered as you think. However charisma, intelligence, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:51 PM
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Are you high? My first line literally says you don't need a male partner to have a male role model. Of course male role models are important. You think lesbian couples don't have brothers, dad's uncles, male friends? It's been studied at large and proven that gay couples produce happy, healthy children. You are bigoted and homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:22 PM
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I didn't say women are better overall? Dunno where you're getting that. I'm bisexual not gay. I find men attractive. I was saying women are better, generally, at some things. But I think the silly memes about the low bar are ignoring all the good qualities and things men offer. I didn't end up with a man, I have a girlfriend as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:17 PM
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Why are you saying women like we're a single homogenised group? Is that hard to say *some * women? I know literally so many people in happy relationships and families so clearly not all women are fake lying bitches like you describe. I only augment my appearance for modelling, I don't wear makeup to work or for my partner (his preference) - I'm not exactly a rarity. My partner has always known my body count and my sexuality. I get some women lie but honestly that's more to do with being afraid o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:14 PM
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I totally agree that dating is really shit for guys that aren't typically attractive if they also aren't rich or charismatic. I actually think it's pretty horrible that women judge men for height etc and I do think there is often a double standard around looks. I refuse to date anyone with a height preference in their online dating profile for that reason. I don't care about people loving something but guys online frequently go on about what they hate too and it can be really hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:10 PM
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That's such bullshit I can't believe you genuinely blame women when men cheat. I hope you don't have daughters. My mum met my biological dad when she was a teenager. She wasn't at fault just because she was young. My dad is at fault for being unfaithful. If it was my mums fault, why is she now in a 20 year marriage with the love of her life? Surely if its a character flaw to date a cheater it wouldn't just suddenly vanish?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:57 AM
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I kind of get it. Like, I date both genders and women give better presents on the whole, and women are often more giving in bed, women are better at making cute romantic plans... I love my partner and I do make a huge fuss when he gives a thoughtful gift or makes me dinner or remembers to help with house work 😂 Whereas my girlfriend those are just standards. But in reality I think it's just a meme and actually most women I know have high expectations. Tbh I think high expectations are good, why …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:31 AM
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But shoulds don't mean anything. People aren't flawless. They can be young and naive. My mum was only a teenager when she met my dad. They divorced when she was 20 and she learnt from it, her next marriage has been so amazing and ten times longer and counting. She raised me alone until my step dad and I had a great childhood. But I do agree that it's good to be suspicious of overly charming guys, I think that's something most people have to learn by doing though. Obviously some people don't lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:04 AM
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It's not simple at all. Do you genuinely think every woman whose picked a bad partner knew straight away? Sorry but that's such a ridiculous assumption. People not only hide parts of themselves - people change. Men get tempted to cheat and the weak ones will. That isn't womens fault. We all need to take responsibility for our own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:57 AM
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You don't need a male partner to have male role models. I know many lesbian couples with beautiful families and incredible kids. They don't seem broken or failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:52 AM
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You can be happily married for years and he still cheats. Why are you blaming women for an issue that is clearly equal on both sides? Women can be shit, so can men. It's not a competition. My mum fucked up picking my bio dad, he was a charming cheater, and her second husband is amazing and a partner of nearly 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:49 AM
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Where the fuck do you live?? In the UK 50% of women 30 and under are childless. Only 14% of families have a single parent. Are you just saying random nonsense or did you grow up somewhere incredibly broken? And FYI I was raised by a single mum. She was married to my dad. He was religious and had a good job. He was a charming, lovely seeming man. Then he cheated on her and she divorced him. Five years later she meets my step dad who is amazing and has been a great father to me. Don't be so assump…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:46 AM
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I think if they suit you, more power to you. I feel a good portion of people really like their gender roles and feel comfortable in them, and that's great. They don't fit everyone, and I love that in a modern world you can choose. I fit some traditional roles and not others. I'm happy with how I do things and see no need to force myself to conform. It isn't about one size fits all, its about what makes you happy. Growing up my dad earned more money and did the DIY but also most of the cleaning. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:00 AM
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Ethical non monogamy - when you consenually agree to not be monogamous and have boundaries or ideas of how to do it in a harmonious way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:42 AM
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Same, almost all cat calling was made to me between the ages of 12 to 19
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/03/22 08:20 PM
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I will enjoy the luxury of my leg hairs even more in light of this nonsense. I'm so glad my partner actually likes me being comfortable, and isn't fixated on how I look beyond encouragement and love.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/03/22 09:50 AM
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I honestly don't care if a random stranger believes or disbelieves me on the Internet. I find it pretty hilarious you think no woman would call a sexual partner feminine though, are you from the 1950s? I'm bisexual and I prefer women anyway, why would I feel weird about liking feminine men 😂 Also... No woman born of a woman? Wtf does that even mean? Everyone comes out a vagina ffs you're literally talking nonsense. Edit : you are totally proving my point dude, I looked through your comments and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:34 PM
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You are making so many stupid assumptions, please stop embarrassing yourself. My partner is DIAGNOSED as in by a medical professional. I already told you this. My brother got his diagnosis too, as have about four of my cousins. Medical, professional diagnosis. I work in mental health ffs. I actually can't believe your arrogance and ignorance. Autism is a spectrum, high functioning autistic people do exist. Feminine and masculine are considered polar opposites. All opposites are two sides of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 10:57 AM
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You said being autistic and having a feminine side are opposites, the opposite of feminine is masculine. Seriously though, please don't stereotype autistic people like that. Autism runs in my family and my partner is autistic, I work in mental health with many autistic men, I have met plenty of feminine autistic guys. Are you seriously telling me I can't use the word partner?? What is your problem dude. I actually have always preferred partner, I like the connotations, and it has nothing to do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 08:26 AM
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I mean, why do you care? Don't mean this insultingly I just don't really get why it bothers people. It ent our business.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 08:29 PM
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Then you're doing good in my book ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:52 PM
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Thank you for sharing, definitely relate ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:52 PM
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Yeah I'm slowly working through it. Long process. I've definitely ended up being fairly demi. I think it's a good protective measure tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:06 PM
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Preference is preference, I guess I just generally believe in being accepting of people if they ain't harming me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:05 PM
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You do realise fat can be genetic? Some people are way more prone to weight gain and find losing if super hard. It can also be a signifier of other health conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 12:31 PM
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People like me... Dude do you actually work with victims of sexual abuse? It's literally a major part of my job. If you think you have some moral highground over me you're a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:44 AM
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I don't mind, of course it is. Everyone who has suffered sexual violence deserves to be heard regardless of gender! I just mean from experience as someone who literally works in this field it's overwhelmingly male violence, but that doesn't excuse the female perpetrators at all. It's fucked up whatever way you look at it!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:52 AM
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Being an asshole is also a choice but many people fail to make it 😂 humans are just flawed and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:50 AM
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I mean, I've been sexually assaulted twice. It's definitely not black and white. Both sides commit errors. The first assault was a drunk dude trying to finger me while I kicked him, telling him to fuck off, but he overpowered me for a few seconds and got them in, luckily so drunk I managed to smack him away and go hide. He was my older brothers mate. Second time was a stranger, I was walking back from work in the daytime and he walked past me and aggressively grabbed my tits. Both men and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:48 AM
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True but some people are genuinely happy being fat and dating other fat people which is obviously fine. Just hold the standards you yourself adhere to, you know what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:44 AM
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❤️ We made it. It's definitely possible to grow and shed an old self. It's kinda why I both hate the word slut but also understand why we fear it... Because sex is powerful and so many of us are nearly destroyed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 07:43 AM
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Thank you ❤️ hard lessons. I have no shame for my past, I was only doing what I thought was best. But I'll never be that person again. You gotta be the kinda person you wanna attract...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:16 AM
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I think I honestly just didn't know the difference between good self esteem and arrogance. You learn the hard way!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 12:56 AM
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"No, I just have more experience with women. My experience is most guys who lash out at girls do it after they were insulted, or if they are emotionally weak to protect their egos. If I see a friend doing the latter, I call them out on it in private." That's a good point, unless you're bi or gay you will definitely have had more experience with women. I guess that's the issue with these big gendered debates, we are basing it off personal experience. Me and you are both gonna have valid observati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:51 PM
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Well, in some countries women are in incredibly oppressed positions and probably don't have as much freedom /to/ abuse as weird as that sounds. Meaning, I wonder if it's a more modern thing... I could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:39 PM
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Yes... Never again. For me, physical attraction doesn't often manifest until I get to know someone. I might be like "oh yeah they look pretty" or whatever but I don't like genuinely fancy them until some chemistry happens. So even if someone isn't conventional hot, I might end up still being crazy about them and finding them hot. And vice versa. But when I was younger, like between ages 14 - 19 I was very poor self-esteem, horrible bullying, nobody wanted to date me (I was too socially awkward a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:34 PM
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I actually think often women who prefer autistic men are usually autistic too, and it's comforting. I am speaking about myself too here! I am an atypical person... I'm not saying it's evidence, but I think it's important to remember that lots of people out there aren't typical too. Big sweeping stereotypes are harmful imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:47 PM
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You just seem to blame women more heavily then men, that's what I get from your posts. I could be wrong. I actually do feel for the guys that act out because of how difficult they feel. I don't think they are worthless or don't deserve love. But ultimately they have to be responsible for themselves, and change their unhealthy attitudes. I don't really judge people that harshly. I know life is unfair and cruel to a lot of people. But I find it difficult when people heavily blame one group over an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:45 PM
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This is true, I reckon some men aren't aware they are victims. I think these trends can be cultural as well. I think different countries must give very different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:40 PM
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Erm, that doesn't make sense - we literally know the gender of their perpetrator. I'm not talking about general society, I'm specifically talking about assault victims I work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:31 PM
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Ooookay, well personally I think experience isn't objective so I would never trust only my own experience on a matter. Why do you think people treat you badly? I must not be everyone then, as I don't think I'm better than everyone else and I think I deserve whatever it is I give out. I love my partner with all his flaws and I don't care what anyone thinks of that. I know what love feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:26 PM
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Wait a sec... Do you think women who prefer women do so because they struggle to attract men? I hate to break it you, it's because I generally find women more attractive. I always have been attracted to women. Sexuality isn't defined by you being rejected by the opposite sex haha. I've always attracted charismatic and masculine men because I am very feminine looking, I have very long hair, a slim waist, big hips/bum and I love looking beautiful in terms of clothing and make-up. Usually it's a fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:24 PM
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"Personalizing rather than answering the question. Weak rhetorical move." Erm, I did answer your question - that was my entire post. But you're right, I did phrase that question rudely. I didn't actually mean it in a horrible way, I was being frank - do you actually have female friends? That isn't a weird question, lots of my male friends don't have many female friends. "Because people are trolls. You just told me to go make a fake profile. How do you know the profiles responding to her are even…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:14 PM
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I guess we're getting into the complexity of definition here... I can't say I'm an expert. But I do work with victims, and all of the men I've known so far have had a male perpetrator - usually a relative. Both times I've heard of a female perpetrator, the victim was a woman, which I find surprising and weird, I don't really understand why that would be. It could be chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:07 PM
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Do you actually have women friends? Honestly bud, make a fake profile on a dating site of a fat girl, please try it yourself. It'd take two hours of your time to realise men are also assholes, not just women. Duuuude, these guys are matching her TO TELL HER SHE IS FAT. I'm not kidding. It's a weird mind game, I don't get it - why would you match someone and your message be "hey fatty" or "you'd be hot if you lost weight" Tbh she is bisexual and she said she even occassionally gets women doing it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:55 PM
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Yeah I mean some of my male friends also struggle to get dates. It's an issue. Some of my female friends do too though. They just complain about different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:49 PM
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I'm so sorry for what you've been through. You make really good points. I know a woman who was sexually abused by another woman as a kid, it's rare but it shouldn't be swept under the carpet just because it's rare. All sexual violence should be treated as unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:41 PM
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"Yes most women had male perpetrators and most men had female perpetrators." That's not actually true, most male victims also have male perpetrators. "Men are responsible for the vast majority of sexual violence in America. According to a 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, 90 percent of perpetrators of sexual violence against women are men. Moreover, when men are victims of sexual assault (an estimated one in 71 men, and one in six boys), 93 percent reported their abuser …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:39 PM
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I certainly think there is some truth in this - at least on the surface. I agree that charisma is actually a big sway for a lot of people with *initial dating* - I don't think it actually relates to relationships quite so much. Most of the women I know who've accidentally dated an asshole for a bit, did so because he was very smooth at first, but dumped his butt when he showed his true colours. I've got male friends that really fucking struggle with getting dates even though they are clever, cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:32 PM
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I think both is happening, Overall men are becoming less sexist, but sadly some men are becoming increasingly sexist as a backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:22 PM
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Do you really think women don't get this too? I've got a female friend who is fat and constantly gets rejected because of it, and they say horrible things too. Even when the guy is fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:21 PM
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Hm, that seems odd, how would you know what it's like to be unattractive then? Strange choice of topic to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:05 PM
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So you think your opinion and anecdotes are more important than sociology and scientific studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 06:04 PM
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Did you try matching with everyone and nothing happened? Maybe you didn't write a very grabbing profile, or used a good picture. I'm happy to help anyone try to make a better dating profile. If I'm honest, when I use dating apps I only pick profiles and pictures that look interesting. Like, a picture that has personality IN IT - for me, it would be a guy playing dnd or a girl surfing, you know? Something expressive. And I like a profile that feels personal, not a quick thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:54 PM
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What if I told you I just didn't believe your experiences? Don't you think the way to move forward with these big debates about gender is to listen to each other? "A growing number of girls and young women say they are unhappy with the way they look and more 16- to 18-year-olds feel less positive about life generally, a report by the charity Girlguiding has suggested. Sexual harassment is commonplace, while young women are judged harshly for sexual behaviour that is seen as acceptable in boys an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:51 PM
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Haha such a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:43 PM
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I honestly think you guys have been chasing a particular kind of woman... Like, are you only trying to date arrogant and conventionally hot women? Because I am dating a feminine guy, I exclusively date soft compassionate emotional men (I also love dating women too so there's that) - I find chads and bad boys extremely annoying and have no interest in them at all. Tbh I find most men too masculine for my tastes. Been there, done that, not for me. Especially bad boys, after one experience I'd had …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:38 PM
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Loads of women have self esteem issues. Most of my friends would struggle to even call themselves pretty. I've had friends get into horrible abusive relationships because they have no self-worth. Multiple friends and myself struggled with eating disorders due to feeling fat. I'm also 30 and I'm definitely way hotter than I was at 20 and any man who doesn't see that is both blind and stupid :P
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:33 PM
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Ah, so you're struggling to *get* a date? That is a different thing. I've been there, I know it's rough - men seem to think women don't get it, but we definitely can do. I was an ugly duckling, at school I was overweight and my features were mocked by other kids, I was also autistic and unable to mask properly, I got picked on so badly that nobody would date me. Not even consider it. Then I tried being gay and finding women is basically impossible haha. I'm bisexual and I definitely don't strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 05:29 PM
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I mean, people react strongly to it because it's an ideaology. Most people don't like ideologies they don't belong or adhere to. That's normal, you probably don't like feminist ideology, right? I am a feminist *and* I understand that some of the beliefs in RP are based in real lived experiences and social constructs. But honestly, a lot of what I read from RP believers is at least half personal experience turned into an actual sweeping opinion and I find that weird. I find some RP guys/gals resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:53 PM
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What do you mean by weak? I prefer my partners of either sex to be strong, yes, but strong can include showing and expressing vulnerability. It actually touches me and makes me feel closer to my partner when he cries sometimes. The kinds of weakness I find unattractive... Never admitting fear or mistakes. Never saying sorry. Never letting any real emotion out. Never showing vulnerability. Not doing your best to make things right, running away when it gets too tough. Never visiting or calling you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:37 PM
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Erm... Are you seriously angry that women generally seem like men for their personalities and not their looks??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:32 PM
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What are you expecting? If women you've tried to date haven't liked you, it's not their fault. You can't force someone to like you. It could be lots of things. Why are you saying it's inappropriate for a woman to reject someone because they didn't like his personality? That's completely rational and understandable. I wouldn't expect anyone to date me if they didn't /like/ me. I personally feel I can get a lot of somebodies personality in a single date. Within the first evening of meeting my part…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:20 PM
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Uh... What are you talking about 😂 you are just making shit up. My partner is diagnosed. So is my bro who is also not masculine. I'd say its actually quite common for men with autism to be less masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:18 AM
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I doubt it's coicindence but all my relationships have been with autistic people and I'm also autistic 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:32 PM
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Uh no I didn't, I know how to spell 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 06:28 PM
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My partner won me over because he talked about his emotions and cried a lil in the first eve we met. He was content to just hold hands and kiss. He didn't care about my weight or my looks (in fact, he actually judged me for being attractive and wearing makeup etc as he thought I'd be shallow) - he made it clear he was actually interested in what I was saying. He was gentle but a bit cheeky too. Didn't hesitate with jumping in the deep end of being trusting and open. Has obvious hobbies and inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:06 PM
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Er... What 😂 I've been on hormones, multiple kinds. It has never effected my taste in men. I've always gone for the same kind of guy. I've always preferred soft, emotionally mature men with an obvious feminine side. They're also always autistic and creative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:58 PM
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Great post. I loved being single, it meant I had so much time for friends, family & hobbies. I have a huge family and friendship network, and I am an artist, muscian, performer and nerd with passions for dnd and writing. I'm now in a 7 year relationship, and it's not because he's the perfect guy. We're financially equal. We share household chores. We are ENM and have been for the entire relationship. We have date night about once a week, only having sex when we are both in the mood. We share a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:46 PM
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