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Well I would argue it is fair considering that women do far more of the work and effort of maintaining a relationship than men. The disparity in women's workload when in a relationship definitely offsets any work a man does in approaching a woman. I don't accept your premise that women do most of the work in a relationship. Of the relationships around me, there isn't an obvious bias one way or other who is putting in the most effort. And of the most successful marriages amongst old couples I tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 08:26 AM
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Ok so why should men complain if they don't do the work? The men aren't complaining about having to do their fair share of the work. They are complaining that women don't do their fair share of the work. The reality is that women have adapted and started becoming more proactive in approaching men. Men now have it better than any other male society where women are doing more effort than previously done on any point in history. Men can decry the unfairness but the reality is it is better than it h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:23 AM
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They do not do the approaching at anywhere near the rate of the men. If it were somewhat approaching equal we would not have the current situation where basically every man is romantically lonely if they do not approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:07 AM
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It is rejection to look hopefully at a man, flirt with him in non verbal ways and him to sneer at you and walk off. If men don't think that happens then they just want to be a victim in all this. No one claims this doesn't happen, but it is not an experience unique to women. Approach rejection is almost universally a man's experience. My male friends have never ever been approached romantically or sexually. Women also initiate. It may not be as great as men, but currently women actually initiate…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:36 AM
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It is clear he is talking about approach rejection which is the prerequisite to all these other forms of rejection you listed - all of which men additionally experience. Not getting approached by men at all This is not rejection. Or do you count men who don't approach as being rejected as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 05:23 AM
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But you claim it is low risk strategy because if you get rejected then you can just try again. Being a lower risk is an incentive so either it is not a lower risk strategy or women believe they have more to gain with a higher risk strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:39 AM
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Oh women aren't allowed to approach men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:46 AM
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This is a non-sequitur. Men don't lose potential mates when they spend too much time on the wrong woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:32 AM
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No, it was the expectation that providing for women would make them sexually attracted. That never happen. This is patriarchal fever dream. Women lied to get their shit, simple as. (emphasis mine) So you agree then, the delusion is caused by women lying to inexperienced men who accept what women say at face value. When men reach a certain level of cognitive dissonance it's impossible to ignore the delusion brought on by women lying. You call that unrealistic???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:31 PM
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The alternative is directing the rage at oneself which leads to suicide. Hopelessness leads to suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:11 PM
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No, I'm talking about sexual standards, as in "who do women choose to fuck?". It's the expectation of enthusiastic sexual attraction that makes modern men delusional. No, it was the expectation that providing for women would make them sexually attracted. So if what they are doing (providing) is not attractive to the women, a pragmatic response is to no longer do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:20 AM
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women don't pick based on these anymore Except they do, when they realize that they no longer can get sexually attractive men to pick them and their own attractiveness starts declining and uses the beta as a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:05 AM
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Women's standards didn't change. Men just can't beat them or put them in insane asylums anymore when they speak out. But they did change. The standards went from "good provider" to "sexy physique". Most sexless men do not wish to beat women or put them into insane asylums. You aren't arguing in good faith anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:49 PM
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No chance of that lol. I refuse to be a beta incel provider and contribute to the current dumpster fire that is dating, relationships, and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:09 PM
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No one claimed they didn't change. They are changed in response to women's standards changing. The question you posed is whether they are realistic or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:01 PM
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Nah I think it is you who have missed the point. I didn't claim these guys were MGTOW. They could be "Omega" losers sitting in their mom's basement working at fast food restaurants and playing video games. Or they could be men who are working to be "Alpha" and fuck tons of chicks but will never commit their resources to provide. Either way, no one wants to be a beta because no one wants to be used like a workhorse with nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:49 PM
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I don't see how this is unrealistic. It's highly pragmatic for betas to say "nah, fuck that, I don't want to provide, I'm out" in response to their observation of women who only pick men based on sexual attraction instead of provisioning ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:48 PM
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Thanks, I'm cured. Get the fuck out there, go on dates. It's not that difficult. I love how you just invalidate their position with "it's not that difficult". Spoken like a privileged person who can actually get people to accept dates. Do you think these people have not tried to go out there and failed many times and that's why they ended up in the state they are in now? It's like telling a person with a broken leg they just need to go out there and walk it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:37 PM
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Having a stable job, being a person with a decent moral compass or at least not being an asshole, and having your life together are kind of bare minimums in todays world. There are so many people who I see who don't have a "decent" moral compass nor do they have their life together and they get laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 05:30 PM
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Motherfucker Jerk Gay Faggot Prick Pansy Coward Sissy Bastard Broke ass Cad Soy boy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:18 AM
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Statistics by Witte published by Riley. Pg 44 https://books.google.com/books?id=7O8lAQAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=average Strictly speaking, an average can refer to mode, median or mean You are the one who needs to pick up a book on college-level intro to statistics. Anyone who has an undergraduate treatment of statistics already know what I'm talking about. I'm done arguing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:18 PM
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Because Khan Academy on a 6th grade math course and the Center for Real Estate is the definitive source of what statistics is right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average In ordinary language, an average is a single number taken as representative of a list of numbers, usually the sum of the numbers divided by how many numbers are in the list (the arithmetic mean). For example, the average of the numbers 2, 3, 4, 7, and 9 (summing to 25) is 5. Depending on the context, an average might be another…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:56 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/average Definition of average (Entry 1 of 3) : a single value (such as a mean, mode, or median) that summarizes or represents the general significance of a set of unequal values
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:24 PM
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In your example, the mean number of times that a single man has sex with a woman is indeed 1, but the median (aka middle man) had sex with a woman 0 times. Mean and median are both sometimes what people mean when they say average, but the average man is the median while the mean represents the average number of sex partners a random man has. Men's on PPD contention of sex is that it is unfairly distributed, which using the mean as the measure of average will tend to hide.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:20 PM
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I think this is a bit conspiratorial. It might ensure repeat business, but if you don't find someone you aren't going to recommend the service to anyone else either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:16 PM
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Down in the comments not that far from the top someone does. If you read the update she came clean about it on her own volition and he forgave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:36 PM
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So are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:29 PM
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Whether or not it is "whining" is in the interpretation of the reader. I think you are whining and it is equally as valid a claim as the one you are making that it is not whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:28 PM
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instead of complaining about women making men with whom they want relationships wait for sex, men should just date women that don’t make them wait. Why shouldn't we do both? We are warning other men that women do this. We are angry at women denying that they are using duplicitous manipulative technique. You don't get to tell men what to do. Just as we accept your whining about our whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:02 PM
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Is today backwards day? why some men have this dichotomy stuck in their heads that women who sleep with you right away and women they date long term are two separate sets of people. This is literally women's modus operandus. They bang the "hot" guy within hours of meeting him but withholding sex for weeks from the "relationship" guy. Men overwhelmingly will fuck someone who looks good, and then if she's still pleasant outside of the sack, will allow it to turn into a relationship. That is women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:13 PM
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Absolutely, if your work makes you do all the work and then conditions your pay on whether or not it still likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:21 PM
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Well when they do, they have to put in the work first to end up getting played.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:16 PM
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Bro, forget trying to mind-read. Do what you want. Your boundary to withhold commitment/relationship status because you feel that she isn't valuing you enough is just as valid as her boundary to withhold sex. If you are happy with the current situation why make it worse by forcing the issue? She can drop her arbitrary standard if she wants it bad enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:50 PM
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Do you even know the meaning of schadenfreude? It is pleasure at the misfortune of others. I laugh when my opponents do something stupid when I play video games and take advantage of it to further my own benefit, doesn't mean I'm "punishing" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 03:29 AM
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I'm gender flipping YOUR question. Not the OP's question. Nowhere in OP's post is he proposing punishing women. He's asking why give women a chance? You claim it is punishment. I ask you to consider the gender-flipped question when it comes to sex which women claim is not punishment, but men view it as such. You come up with a set of reasonable answers, but fail to consider men also have reasonable answers for not wanting to chase women their own age. I am merely attempting to prove your claim t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:27 AM
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Women withhold sex for lots of reasons. Not wanting to be slut shamed, not wanting to be pregnant, not wanting to waste time with someone who's going to dump them in a week or two, wanting to see if a man really likes her, wanting to see his reaction to being told no, etc etc. Some of those things are more reasonable than others, but none of them are punishments. Do you see the difference? Men withhold from chasing those women for lots of reasons. Not wanting STDs and a jaded experience when it …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:14 AM
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Just gender flip this question and we've got the question of why women "withhold" sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:30 PM
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Maybe you missed the part that you claim that the reasons are "about them" (the woman) but you say it is "to ensure the man has some feelings"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:48 PM
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WOMAN are waiting for sex, for their reasons, about them ... literally further up ... are NOT having sex ... in an attempt to ensure the man has some feelings going in and doesnt dump them right after sex I would highly recommend that men do not commit to women who dangle things for sex. This is how it becomes transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:25 PM
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That seems like a made up story. (The stealing, not your comment) Why would you create a digitally traceable transaction of yourself stealing something? Also you need to enter your PIN to send any cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:02 AM
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Madoff didn't invent pyramid schemes dafuq? Pyramid schemes have been around for at least a century. And yeah a scheme that promises high returns consistently is mathematically impossible, so yeah you wouldn't want to enter any kind of financial relationship with people who were greedy enough to be duped by such a ploy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:11 AM
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You accuse them of not having empathy but you are the same. An empathic person can disagree with their position but still understand how they came to that position and certainly not jump to baseless attacks that they are feckless or prone to criminal acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:57 AM
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How about instead having some empathy yourself and realize they are just a normal person struggling with success and not immediately jumping to conclusions that they are "spineless" and insinuating that they are "a crazy stalker just waiting to happen"? Attitudes like this is why we have such anger and bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:42 AM
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Ok, but that's not what this post, thread, or my comment is about. Being nice or interesting is putting the cart before the horse. You have to attract the girl first, and then you can work on making it last.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:09 AM
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No, you don't have to be nice or interesting, just attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:39 AM
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But this is useless advice for "nice guys" who are not having success with women. The answer isn't write an interesting profile instead of describing your qualities, it's "go lift" and "dress nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:18 AM
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Good for you. Point is that it doesn't move your success rate in any significant manner. Looking good is about 1000x more important than a good profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:08 AM
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Nobody gives a fuck about 1 or 2. If you look hot enough you get swiped right. Otherwise left.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:05 AM
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When you ask a girl what the best way to attract a girl and she replies with some form of "you must be nice". But then guys who are actually nice notice they are being gaslit and then when they point out the fallacy politely (I'm nice, but girls aren't attracted to me), they get called "not actually nice" because girls don't want to seem shallow instead of giving them helpful advice like "lift more". It's enough to turn most unsuccessful men angry and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:02 AM
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No, specifically in the context of demonstrating romantic interest, I've had more than one woman answer that smiling or standing near you is an IOI. If you don't believe that, there's nothing further to add to this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:55 PM
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To clarify. It is obvious when they are actually trying. When they are indicating. Otherwise they are not indicating and probably not trying to indicate either. Many women say that they are "indicating" is something like smiling or standing near you. So is the cashier at the checkout line at my grocery store. They might be indicating in their minds, but it is totally ineffective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:18 PM
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usually obvious when it's obvious. Dafuq? The challenge here is that "it is not obvious" and your response is that it is "obvious when it's obvious". Argumentum ad circular.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:05 PM
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Some women expect you to do all the work to successfully woo them with no feedback on their end, that's why she said "never anything happened between us". Ain't nobody got time for those people. Sorry you had to waste 13 dates to figure that out. My rule is that by the 2nd date if you don't get the good vibes it's time to cut the fish loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:51 PM
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Just as many women are lazy bums. You just hear less of it because men whine less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:33 PM
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"manchild" is just shaming language used by women because they can't get a man who has sufficient resources for her ideal future so they think the problem is that there aren't enough of those "good men". They don't stop to consider that they might not be the "good women" who those "good men" want. Of course adding onto this effect is that boys are seeing that the "good men" aren't actually having success with women so they do what any rational actor would do when actions don't produce results, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:54 PM
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No one is excluding an entire race of women when they say that women have an easier time to date then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:59 PM
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If you read this poster's history they inevitably work in "I'm a black female" into every post because they're the least privileged race for dating as a female.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:25 PM
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I don't think this is a problem of ONLY black women being treated as sex objects. All women are treated as sex objects, some other races are just treated as more in other ways. Yeah racism is a thing in dating and relationships in the US. Asian men feel basically the same way you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:17 AM
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You can't substitute human life for animal life precisely because human life is held in higher regards with more value and protections in our moral and legal systems. Or do you think it is immoral for jaguars to eat deer too?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:04 AM
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I agree with you and I would like to point out the circular argument. The "unstable" men are derided as "fuckbois" and then sour-graped reasoned to herself and the beta as "not desirable" when he finds out about her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:48 AM
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I also see a rising percentage that stay unmarried but have a lot of cats. Financial Disclaimer: I have stocks in cat food.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:30 AM
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The moral argument is based on the right to life being the most important right that we have codified into the laws of our society. It's incredibly hard to deprive someone of their right to life in our legal system. Less so of bodily autonomy (incarceration being the most prominent example that comes to mind). That's why arguing about meat-eaters and chickens don't make sense. They aren't depriving a person of rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:14 AM
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The US constitution protects the rights of people, not animals. And in any case the Supreme Court isn't protecting the rights of fetuses, it's saying it has no standing to protect them and that the organization with the right to protect the fetuses is the state. So complain about why your state constitution and/or legislature doesn't protect your right to bodily autonomy over the rights to the fetuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:46 AM
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Fix yourself first Thanks, I'm cured.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:25 AM
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