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Ever read the Declaration of Sentiments (1848)? Here's a quote by its author: http://izquotes.com/quote/269051
/r/MensRights10/11/15 07:02 PM
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Feminism is many things, but built on a pile of lies is not one of them. Ignoring the obvious lie this article demonstrates about the feminist narrative on domestic violence, the way that feminism consistently misleads is not always by outright falsehood, but through lying by omission. For example: 100 years ago women really didn't have the right to vote Universal suffrage has never been a right that men have had and women have not. Men enjoyed certain rights and privileges of citizenship grante…
/r/MensRights01/12/14 01:32 AM
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A man held out his hand == this man thinks he owns the world and me in particular This level of projection is astonishing.
/r/MensRights30/11/14 09:17 AM
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Posting here too so you'll get the notification.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 09:04 PM
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Agreed. Karen, stop making excuses and start publishing more content in places where people can actually see it. Your wit and insight are among the most astute that the MRM have. A lot of us only know about these issues because of you. As an added incentive, I'm pledging $7.50 p/m to your patreon. (P.S. Any word on if/when your KSUM talk will be made available online?)
/r/MensRights05/11/14 08:57 PM
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"Guys guys, we have to always believe women in cases like this" - Anita Sarkeesian
/r/MensRights19/09/14 08:24 PM
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Thanks Karen. I was unwittingly revising history after all, just not in the direction AlphaWookie accused me of. P.S. Please continue being awesome.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 08:59 AM
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Certainly a lot more blunt than "misandry".
/r/MensRights11/09/14 07:33 AM
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This is definitely my hope. However I am not sure that men will ever receive the full compassion that women do. Most people would agree that treating black individuals more harshly is racism yet we are still quick to see a black man as the aggressor in an altercation with a white man. Instinct dies much more slowly than socialisation.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 05:38 AM
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Beyond, you know, being a morally just society. Nice joke, I know. Maybe we need to create that incentive.
/r/MensRights11/09/14 02:38 AM
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*you're Would you care to explain what you mean a little better or are you just going to continue with single sentence retorts and baseless accusations? It isn't revisionism. It's true that women were barred from education. It's also true that men had to take on more responsibilities as a result. Both are shitty but we like to gloss over the disadvantages that men face, hence I brought attention to it. The questions I asked that you seem incapable of comprehending are: What parts of my evolution…
/r/MensRights11/09/14 12:15 AM
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Or not being required to because they do not have the same responsibilities as their male counterparts. A sentence-length non-sequitur is not an explanation.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 11:45 PM
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*their That still doesn't answer which parts of my evolutionary story above were incorrect. Also yes, slave men were elevated to the status of free men. But even slave women were treated more gently than slave men. When in history have we ever cared about men to the degree that we currently do women?
/r/MensRights10/09/14 11:28 PM
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I understand there is a social push against empathy toward men, however the assumption is that this is borne of a biological basis rather than a purely sociological one. I.e "men are disposable therefore we don't care about them" rather than "we don't care about men therefore they are disposable". My question is whether it's even possible to remedy the situation (not to say we shouldn't try).
/r/MensRights10/09/14 11:13 PM
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My apologies. This was based on my own understanding as a layperson grappling with these issues. Can you point to where my conclusions were "shitty"? Also *their
/r/MensRights10/09/14 11:07 PM
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Further to this, men are not necessarily descended from survivors so much as those men who were able to reproduce. Once the seed is planted however, there's no survival necessary for the next generation. The ability to defend one's progeny from physical harm may have helped, however this probably would have involved a great deal of self-sacrifice as well. Basically, men are not so much descended from survivors as self-sacrificers. If anything, women are more predisposed to survival, given that t…
/r/MensRights10/09/14 09:42 PM
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But the whole world is a safe place for men to talk about their issues, right? I thought that was what the patriarchy was supposed to be doing for them? /s
/r/MensRights03/09/14 08:31 PM
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For sure. There are many who had nothing to do with the MRM as well. What can be said is that many female MRAs are jumping on the hashtag as well, since it obviously applies to them.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 07:06 AM
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Note the "many". You're free to choose whatever label you want.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 07:15 PM
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My point exactly
/r/MensRights30/07/14 07:55 AM
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To be fair, many #WomenAgainstFeminism are probably MRAs...
/r/MensRights30/07/14 07:19 AM
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How about the very behaviour in the comic?
/r/MensRights19/07/14 07:57 PM
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This should be among the top comments. Most people are focusing on the hysteria caused by letting a child roam free rather than the fact that men have been implicated as the de facto child-harming monsters. It's not very different to "woman punished for letting child play in a crowded area where a brown person could kidnap her, you know, like boko haram".
/r/MensRights15/07/14 08:05 PM
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If you look at the source cited for that figure it's not even 73% of women, it's 73% of rape victims.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 03:30 PM
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Oh my god you are so right! A male government was in power therefore the feminists supporting its decisions harboured no anti-male sentiment at all and it was simply men hurting other men and as all men are a gestalt entity with shared thoughts and intentions they clearly wanted to be subject to the horrors of war! I have never once stated that feminism alone forced boys to be soldiers, only that a sizeable amount of female members either tacitly or directly supported it whilst they stayed safe …
/r/MensRights19/05/14 07:33 PM
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Really? Darn, and here I thought the White Feather movement was about trying to shame men into risking their lives and sanity as well as destroying the lives of other men in a way that no woman was historically obliged to do. But I guess they were trying to be good citizens so that makes it okay, right? And interesting how you see the actions of both both pro-war and anti-war feminists as being equally justified, despite holding mutually contradictory positions. It's almost as if you want to des…
/r/MensRights19/05/14 06:54 PM
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I thought of putting a "/s" in there but figured it was over-the-top enough to be unnecessary. :P
/r/MensRights18/05/14 11:48 PM
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The tender years doctrine, white feather girls, the SCUM manifesto, the Duluth model of domestic abuse, the suffragette movement pushing for obligation-free voting when men and boys had to pay the price of community and military service... This all happened before the 90s.
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:48 PM
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Hey c'mon, I hear it hurts men too-but that doesn't mean men aren't privileged okay! And when it benefits women it's benevolent sexism, which means women are still being oppressed. What's that? Do something to get rid of the benevolent sexism? Uh...umm....RAPE CULTURE! MALE PRIVILEGE! VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN!
/r/MensRights18/05/14 06:37 PM
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They're downvoting, not removing your posts and banning you from the subreddit as /r/feminism would. Here's my 2c: the "patriarchy" is a model of gender roles that is woefully incomplete at best and wildly discriminatory at worst. It describes a world where men have systemic power over women, whilst either ignoring the existence of the many ways men are disadvantaged by gender roles (or painting them as something that "men do to other men") and the ways women are benefitted. When it does acknowl…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 07:33 PM
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Of course he "enjoyed" it. He was in a class full of his peers. He had to enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikd0ZYQoDko
/r/MensRights26/04/14 07:47 PM
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That too.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 09:24 PM
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Their value was only as strong as their ability to maintain allies with strong men. Wrong. Their value was as strong as their fertility, something most women are born with. They were an inherent asset to their tribe because they were necessary to carry future generations. The males had to prove their worth in other ways as one man can get 100 women pregnant, but not the other way around.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 08:59 PM
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He was likely downvoted because at a glance his comment looks like it's saying "men have every right and privilege". I disagree with renaming the movement for 3 reasons: Calling it the "Men's Issues Movement" implies that the issues somehow belong to men and are therefore their responsibility. It also downplays the severity of the mistreatment men face in society. Society may believe men already have "all the rights". By boldly proclaiming we want rights for men, we actively contradict this noti…
/r/MensRights19/04/14 07:57 PM
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On the flip side, if girls' safety was often guaranteed, as it tends to be due to their perceived inherent value, wouldn't a young boy be more anxious for his own security and try harder to make up for the fact?
/r/MensRights19/04/14 07:39 PM
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Biology. Females fall pregnant, males do not; creating a reproductive bottleneck that eventuated through millions of years of evolution in social rules such as male disposability and biological adaptations such a female neoteny. Biology AND social context. Not one or the other. Both.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 07:28 PM
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It probably depends how they're raised among other factors. We treat boys and girls differently from infanthood, even cuddling them differently (we're more likely to bounce a baby boy roughly and gently stroke a baby girl). Whether this has an impact on how they then attach to their parents and therefore the rest of society I'm not sure, but it would be interesting to study.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 07:09 PM
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Verbal skills are less likely to get you a high paying career. EDIT: If you're going to disagree, reply, don't just downvote.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 07:01 PM
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And boys more often get disillusioned from the process, leading to more underachievers as well.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 07:00 PM
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I disagree. It's been shown that young boys seek emotional comfort more than young girls. I think a lot of what drives young and adolescent boys to work so hard is approval-seeking behaviour.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 06:52 PM
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I think the idea is that it's because of girls' social context that they do not believe in their own ability and/or less often feel the need to put in the effort. I for one, think there is some truth to this. As the study says, even when performing at the same level, the girls felt less confident in themselves. Something something confirmation bias.
/r/MensRights19/04/14 10:45 AM
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I'm sure God was helping her? What the hell has this got to do with society giving women milder punishment?
/r/PussyPass11/04/14 09:11 PM
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Men act, women are acted upon. "He did it" versus "it was done to her" Same old same old.
/r/MensRights06/04/14 06:54 PM
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I'm not convinced it's a western phenomenon. Variations of this attitude seem to exist everywhere
/r/MensRights06/04/14 01:21 AM
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Everything that happens to a man was his intention, caused by him and his fault/responsibility. Everything that happens to a woman was done by others to her. This is the basic belief of our society, most just don't realise it.
/r/MensRights06/04/14 01:10 AM
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when a woman has an abortion there isn't a child who grows up hating her for what she did to him/her... A man who chooses not to be a parent, if his partner chooses to bring the child to term, is more akin to a woman who engages in legal parental surrender, rather than abortion. In the already existant cases of surrender, the child may very well one day resent their parents. The situation of men refusing parenthood is different in that a bitter mother has the ability to affect the child's judgem…
/r/MensRights05/04/14 04:21 AM
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Except the part where it doesn't matter the woman's age. Society as a whole never takes kindly to someone actually punishing a woman for her behaviour. The universal sentencing disparity demonstrates this beautifully.
/r/MensRights27/03/14 07:17 PM
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It's true they probably would, but later in life they would demand he "man up" in other ways, especially when women are involved. Involuntarily became a parent? Man up and pay alimony. Accused of rape by a woman? Man up and take responsibility, only the accuser's opinion matters. Have a complaint about anything pertaining to being a man? Man up, privileged bastard. Your male tears are irrelevant to us. Let's not pretend feminism really cares about deconstructing masculinity, it only wants to dec…
/r/MensRights15/03/14 07:33 PM
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Remember folks, a man is not a victim. Ever. Clearly this is just his fault for not living up to her expectations. Practically did it to himself. /s
/r/PussyPass11/03/14 07:04 AM
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Fair point and on reflection one that bears further thought: Labelling an act as one of misandry emphasises the fact that it hurts men as a group, but can imply that the perpetrator of said act was motivated by outright hatred or simple disregard towards a group, which may be untrue. Calling the act sexism, in my opinion, does not do enough to emphasise the damage the act causes, nor does it specify that the group being victimised is men. These two factors considered, the phrasing "this act is m…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 02:38 AM
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Whether it is intentional or not does not change the fact it negatively impacts a given gender in a discriminatory fashion. How many times do you hear "I'm not racist but <completely racist comment>"? It's pretty much the same. Whether the intent to be misandric is there or not does not change the fact that the act itself is misandric in nature. It is misandric, therefore it is a part of systematic misandry even if the perpetrator is unaware of the fact. It's "unconscious misandry" if you'd pref…
/r/MensRights11/03/14 01:52 AM
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Misandry, as a catch-all term referring to the global range of all discrimination towards men as a gender, includes all things that are misandric. There is no difference. The terms are synonymous in this regard.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 11:09 PM
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Because the hatred, prejudice or unfair treatment towards a given sex is not all synonymous with sexism now? I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here.
/r/MensRights10/03/14 10:38 PM
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Misandry [n]: sexism directed toward men
/r/MensRights10/03/14 10:19 PM
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Actually those were spelling mistakes. You made a grammar mistake.
/r/MensRights03/02/14 06:47 PM
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But don't you understand? Putting women first IS championing equality because it works against that patriarchy that gives men so many invisible benefits. They just trying to balance the scale. /s Seriously though that's the crux of the argument.
/r/PussyPass02/02/14 08:12 PM
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The thing being of course that feminism completely erases the negative impact that this has on those "privileged" men. Well, except for that lovely little one-liner: "patriarchy hurts men too". But don't try to talk about men's issues ever because "the whole world is your safe space".
/r/MensRights27/01/14 07:41 PM
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I went for fingertips including nails because it would include a loss of sensation. Last I checked, there are not any nerve endings in fingernails themselves.
/r/MensRights25/01/14 12:25 AM
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Imagine it was different, like they removed all of your hair as a baby and made it so it never grows back. You go your whole life as a hairless fuck because doctors unanimously agreed that hair was a hazard because if you don't clean it, you get lice. It's more like having your fingertips removed so you won't get dirt under your nails.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 07:55 PM
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A seven-year study by Dallas’s Timberlawn Psychiatric Institute found the one factor that was the most important in helping children become healthy, happy adults, was the quality of the relationship between their parents. This one factor was more important than giving kids hugs, providing good discipline, building their self esteem, or any other aspect of what is traditionally considered ‘good parenting’.” Well then the answer is obvious isn't it? The mother should be more accomodating towards t…
/r/MensRights29/12/13 05:02 AM
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The thing that always gets me is that feminism has the concept of 'internalised misogyny' for scenarios when a woman acts in a way that works against women (or feminism itself as is often the case). Surely men who will only perform violence on other men suffer from their own internalised misandry in that they only consider men to deserve physical violence? Likewise in the case of suicide, surely it could be argued that men are more likely to hate themselves enough to take their own lives. As for…
/r/MensRights27/12/13 03:42 AM
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Except that all other factors accounted for, a man is far more likely to be imprisoned for the same crime as a woman, or imprisoned for a longer sentence. You would not find this in a patriarchy that exists to advance men's interests at the expense of women's. You can argue that this is because we believe women to be less capable and therefore more innocent, but why is this called "privilege" when applied to white people, but only "benevolent sexism" when applied to women? There is a system of g…
/r/MensRights21/12/13 09:36 PM
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Unbelievable. Censorship at its finest.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 08:51 PM
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Thought I'd share with you guys. Seems like a false flag smear campaign to me.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 08:20 AM
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I was pressured during my first time as well. It was my then-girlfriend's birthday and we'd rented a hotel room. However when the time came I got nervous at the last minute and wanted to stop. When I tried to explain this I was met with an attitude of "just shut up and get on with it!" Since it was the first time for both of us I swallowed my fear and went with it; after all, if this was her first time too and she was so confident about it, why shouldn't I be? I later found out it wasn't her fir…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:51 PM
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One would expect that feminists would be vehemently opposed to a law that so thoroughly infantilizes women, but it was first enacted in 1999 under pressure from state feminists; its radical feminist supporters in Sweden and other countries seem wholly oblivious to its insulting and demeaning assumptions about women’s agency. Welcome to the core principles of feminism. Spoiler: it's not just the radical component.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:15 PM
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men are more likely to physically assault women than vice versa Citation needed.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 03:12 PM
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Then perhaps you should object to the fact that they give no recognition to female-on-female domestic violence? Do you really not see how their advocacy erases all forms of DV/IPV that do not correspond to the blindly socially accepted male-perpetrator-female-victim model? Do you not recognise that by holding men solely responsible you blame all men for all intimate partner abuse? Do you not see how insidious it is to veil this under the guise of a "good cause"?
/r/MensRights23/11/13 05:23 AM
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Sure, so long as they're acknowledging that these stereotypes are actually harmful to men, that the fact that they're harmful to men actually matters, and that it's those who hold such a stereotype in mind who should change their view, not men who should prove themselves non-violent. Instead, what this campaign fosters is a culture where men have to be held socially responsible for other people's fears about them, which is garbage.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 03:46 AM
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Because it is implicitly asking for an apology from a group who have been falsely stereotyped by a society that fears them? Let me put it another way: "The Tangerine Ribbon Campaign fosters and encourages black leadership in the prevention of violence against white people, based on the understanding that most black people are not violent. The Campaign is a means for black people to speak out against violence against white people, and to safely and effectively challenge the attitudes and behaviou…
/r/MensRights23/11/13 03:30 AM
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Only women and girls are legitimate victims. No vagina, no crime. /s
/r/MensRights23/11/13 03:23 AM
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What's bullshit is the idea that violence against women solely is a problem. What is also bullshit is the false idea that only men perpetrate intimate partner violence, or that men are violent by nature, stereotypes that are perpetuated by this organisation. Women are, statistically speaking, less likely to receive violence than men across the board. If you want to focus on reducing violence against humans, you should ensure our resources are being spent appropriately to prevent violence against…
/r/MensRights23/11/13 03:14 AM
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Which is why it's up to the MRM to show people why it's wrong. We need to bring public attention to: The stupidly higher levels of violence perpetrated against men and boys The fact that domestic and sexual abuse are not gendered crimes, occurring at near equal rates to both men and women (outside of prison, if you include rates of rape inside prisons, men suffer even more) The higher number of homeless men compared to women, with near non-existent access to the shelters and special assistance a…
/r/MensRights16/11/13 06:12 AM
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Registered sex offender in 3...2...1...
/r/MensRights16/11/13 05:44 AM
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Except for the strong possibility that this man has been horrifically psychologically abused? For sure, there's something wrong with someone who just sits there and takes that kind of abuse, but that's why we should be asking: why does he feel he deserves this kind of treatment? Assuming he's whipped reinforces the idea that men will put up with anything just for sex and that women cannot be outright abusers, since any "real man" would just walk away.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 10:35 PM
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This man has clearly been psychologically as well as physically abused, yet if you look at the comments in the /r/HongKong thread there's an awful lot of victim blaming in there. Most seem to think that both parties are equally at fault or that the guy is most at fault. Also I love how the most upvoted comment is a castration joke. We have a lot of work to do, gentlemen.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 10:19 PM
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