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I understand why a man would sleep with an attractive women, given the chance. I'm not seeing why his partner would, or should, be accepting of that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:44 PM
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That's how jobs win. They tire you out so much, you lose all energy to do the things you love. Do something fun after work tomorrow just so they haven't beaten you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:01 PM
1

You know many people with a permanently open anus? Do you live somewhere where this is a common issue? I wouldn't tell my best friend if I had this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:43 PM
1

Nowhere in it will you find entries claiming that only hugging, kissing, and PIV sex are allowed in marriage. That's a relief!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:31 PM
1

Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:02 PM
1

But science isn't wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:50 PM
2

That's very clearly an opinion piece Edit: although upon further reading, it looks as if formernPopes have agreed with this, so you do have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:50 PM
3

Foreplay is not banned in Catholicism! Lol. Where do you hear these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:39 PM
1

Might as well what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:39 PM
1

Firstly, it was never a sin not to give a woman an organised, and secondly, we now know it's not necessary for conception. It should still be encouraged though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:13 PM
1

Just let go of the bag. Ffs, people are really willing to get shot over a few posessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:20 PM
-1

Alleged
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:15 AM
-1

Because there are exceptions to every trend. Some smokers live til 100. Doesn't mean it's not bad for your health. Some ugly poor men get hot wives. Doesn't mean those things don't matter. Some people drive carefully, and still doe in crashes. Also, why are the Paul brothers being mentioned in this list of horrible people?? I've never been a fan, but they're not exactly evil. Just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:00 AM
2

Prostitution is never illegal with the intention of sexually frustrating men. It is usually illegal due to a culture wanting to promote sexual conservatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:22 PM

Don't stay a virgin to impress future partners, but the benefit, for a woman, is that you won't get pregnant, and don't have to pump your body full of unnecessary hormones to avoid getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:58 AM
1

Everyone should do 50/50 overall. That doesn't mean 50/50 on every individual task. One person might do more cooking or cleaning. One person might work more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:56 AM
1

“We need to use more revenue from our oil refineries to boost cap ex in our renewables department. After all we are an energy company, not necessarily an oil company” But even whilst focusing on these two issues, there are countless other ones O could ask about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:43 PM
6

Not if he's a teacher! Lol. There's a difference between working with children, and just standing near a park in a trenchcoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:34 PM
3

“Not my problem, and if it is then it’s not my fault, and if it is then it’s not that big of a deal, and if it is it’s still not my responsibility to fix it because it doesn’t affect me” Well that's not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:27 PM
5

Mostly because they walled off those professions from men. How do you mean? What's stopping a man from becoming a nurse, teacher, or carer?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:26 PM
1

Well you just told me a positive right there. A pretty significant one which every society is completely reliant on. That's the only one that ONLY women can do, but there are plenty which women predominantly do. Nursing, teaching, every caring profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:51 PM
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Hopefully most people are capable of more nuanced thinking than this. Do we need to mention the positives of women, every time we criticise them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:43 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:01 PM
1

Fair enough. When too many people become focused on certain issues, at the expense of others, it becomes an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:14 PM
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1: yes, married. 2: no. Never felt the need to learn how to be a man online.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:53 PM
27

But why do we expect feminism to be pointing out the positives of masculinity? That's not what the movement was ever about. It's important, but can be a job for someone else. It's a widespread problem, that whenever anyone takes a stance on anything, there are always people saying, "well why do you care about that, and not other equally valid issues?". Because people have finite time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:53 PM
2

You think don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:01 PM
11

If we want to just expand the definition of terms until they become meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:28 PM
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I just don't think having one sexual partner is enough, by itself, to consider a person to be a success at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:19 PM

Yeah. That's pretty weak though, not approaching in person but messaging online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:09 AM

Have you told her this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:08 AM
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Right. There are individual anecdotes for anything. Your example is a narrower age gap than in the post. Didn't mean to edit after you replied
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:06 PM
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I don't think many people would argue that it never happens. It's just that a lot of people seem to argue that it is the norm, and that young men should expect to.be getting more attractive with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:55 PM
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I guess like the money, it's a case of, "yeah I'll have it if it's no effort, but I don't want to put in the effort it would entail".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:46 AM
2

Saying yes is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:27 AM
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No. The people I am referring to, such as OP, do not take accountability for the direct results of their actions. OP si claiming that an person's actions can be blamed on the person that sleeps with them, and that if they do something to make themselves more attractive, it stops being their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:26 AM
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Good for you. You're not one of the people i'm referring to then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:08 PM
101

I know this is controversial, but men also decide which women we date. Meaning that every bad thing a woman does is the fault of men... except of course it's not. People are responsible for their own actions. I know, accountability is unpopular here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 08:18 AM
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Means not buying into pill ideology. Having mixed beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:32 PM
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We can make this argument for anyone though, with an equal amount of "evidence". Men that constantly say they don't want to date a single mother, former prostitute, or obese 45 year old must be doing so.becuse they are secretly attracted to them. The fact is, a large majority of women date close to their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:09 PM
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Yes, both should be illegal, but will always be difficult to prove. Imo, stealthily is worse though, because it exposes someone to diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:14 AM
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Benevolent sexism isn't the same as simpimg.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:38 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167218781000
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:37 PM
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"Should" is irrelevant. The fact is, men prefer a woman that is not a single mum. It decreases her desirability. It doesn't make her a bad person, but the quality of man she can get, will be lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:49 PM
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The evidence seems to suggest that men that display benevolent sexism, seem to have the most relationship success. This seems a good enough incentive for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:47 PM

This is actually a very rare time, where young men are more keen on marriage than young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:09 PM
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Because there's more to life than being a bad partner. If that was my only purpose, i wouldn't bother continuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:45 AM
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If they want children, lead them on, waste their fertile years. What if you also want children? You're also wasting years of your own life. I do appreciate the mental gymnastics that it took to claim that cheating on your girlfriend is similar to the plot of Schindler's list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:22 PM
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Yes. For reasons I have already clearly explained, I would continue living in the house that I am paying for. I'm not destroying my finances, or my relationship with my children, just to avoid some awkwardness with my ex. That would be short sighted, and selfish.l, which is why I used the word "idiot".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:27 AM
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How much more clearly can I explain it. He should not have moved out of his own house just because someone told him to. The whole point in buying a house is that you then get to live in that house.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:56 AM
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"The great replacement theory" is the idea that people in power (Jews) are deliberately suppressing the white birth rates. Have you never heard this theory? It's picking up steam.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:41 PM
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Ok. I can't really argue with what you personally have, or haven't heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:37 PM
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It's an argument used by both sides. The left use it to explain why certain races are more likely to be imprisoned. The right use it to explain why certain races have higher birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:27 PM
2

Some men don't what? Want paternity leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:26 PM
2

I wouldn't call op progressive necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:57 PM
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I have never, in my life, met a man that did not want paternity leave when his child was born. This just seems to be going on the argument that differing outcomes can only be due to discrimination. I'd give an analogy, but I don't think that would be possible without breaking the rules of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:20 PM
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I think if women just refuse to have babies with men they're not married to, ensuring some more financial safety for themselves, they'd be more likely to get the ring. Refusing to cook seems excessive, petty, and impractical. He'd just end up refusing to open a jar, or unlock a pipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:14 PM
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He's ended up with less custody because he can't afford a place with enough bedrooms while he still pays the mortgage for the house his wife lives in. He has to now pay rent on another place, which is not deducted from his child support. Everything you've said about giving her the house, giving him leverage, you've just made up. If that doesn't make him an idiot, I don't know what would. If you don't want to live with her, tell her she's moving out without the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:22 PM
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Do you believe they're owed more custody b/c they make more money? No. It should be based on what's best for the child. I'm just pointing out that custody is one on the main factors considered. Is it that women are award custody more or that men compete less for more custody? The default always seems to be that they stay with the mother, for whatever reason. I think because the man is more likely to move out. I know one man who's wife wanted tot split so told him he had to move out, and the idio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:24 AM
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I think they can also both be justified as being necessary to the good of the nation. We need secure borders. We need a next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:32 PM
1

We all have skin in the game. People that have never served still follow laws, use public services, and pay taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:28 PM
1

When we look at gender equality, we have to either look at it globally, or nationally. I assume the vast majority of us are not Ukrainian, so if we're going to talk about existing laws in Ukraine, it's equally appropriate to talk about existing laws in Saudi Arabia. Most of us would agree that the second option is ridiculous for us to do in the west, but still act as if Ukraine is relevant to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:27 PM
1

Surely that depends how attractive the man is
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:00 PM
2

Men are overrepresented in child support because they make more money. And end up with less custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:57 PM
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How much stigma do you think there is on men that end marriages? Seems pretty equal to me, I.e. nowhere near enough stigma or either sex. BTW, no-one is "triggered". You posted in a debate sub, with a debate flair, and people are disagreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:55 PM

Depends how fat we're talking. Some women get pretty chubby and it all goes to their bum/tit's. Others just get a massive beer belly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:53 AM
1

I think most people are quite open about the fact that it is about preserving a certain culture, rather than absolute numbers of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 06:33 PM
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You mean "men don't talk about.birthrates in real life". The men that care about it online, also care about it in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:12 PM
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How are they getting good at sex without getting decent at relationships? It's not as if focusing on one detracts energy from rhe other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:19 PM

No because there has to be an age where, although people find it a bit weird, we're on imprisoning men for dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:29 PM

That's just what your body wants to be like. It just didn't have the strength or energy for it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:28 PM

It doesn't have multiple definitions. The use in the post is just more a metaphorical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:58 PM

You use the word "likely" a lot, in order to make a guess sound more substantial. But yes, he should retire if he wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:57 PM
7

Maybe. I'd choose that over stress though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:20 PM
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Peace. The drama gets old pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:53 PM
2

No-one selects based on how good a housewife they would be. They have no way of knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:53 PM

Condoms are harmless, other than making sex less enjoyable. Hormonal birth control, however, has a long list of harmful side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:52 PM
2

SAHM is a kind of work, so you're selected for your ability to do this job. Right. Same as any other job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:14 PM
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They're not though. If a man marries a woman with a job, you wouldn't assume he chose her based on her ability to do that job, rather than who she is as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:50 PM
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The difference is seeing your partner as a real person VS seeing them as their social role in relation to you. So who's seeing them as a person, and who isn't In a society where you see women as their own persons, you will want them to have real people quality outside of what they can do for your household. Are you not saying SAHMs are not seen as their own person's? but you're kind of reducing their humanity to how good they are at their tradwife role I haven't described women with jobs as not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:06 PM
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What did being a trad boyfriend entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:40 PM
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You can see someone as a person, even if you don't expect them to have a paying job. Humanity isn't defined by earning an income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:38 PM
1

Plenty of mothers work, therefore wanting a wife that works is just as much wanting a, "mom they can stick their dick into"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:37 PM
5

It's like how French women started fucking the Nazis the moment they got taken over Dating a nazi is like talking about your office job? You're reaching a bit here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:13 PM
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Then what type of personality does she really have other cook, clean and watch the children. Where do you think people get their personalities from? The average job doesn't make someone any more interesting than staying home. Like it just seems so lifeless for the woman and just like you want a slave disguised as a wife that loves you. Again, you're making the false assumption that most jobs are better than staying home. The appeal is not having to both come home from your full time job, to spen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:12 PM
1

What's the alternative? Get with the hot guy, or the nice guy, somehow she's made him a bad guy either way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:09 PM
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Yes I understand that. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:00 AM
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What would you do if you seriously ill? Like cancer or diabetes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:14 PM
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I think the idea of this one is that it's not a long term decision, because they can unblock the tube whenever you decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:10 PM
0

Not wanting to have it tested on them is not the same as not wanting to take it after it's proven to be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:09 PM
1

A physical block like this? Yes. A hormonal one? No. They've been talking about thing for well over a decade now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:07 PM
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The woman will feel obligated to make it work in order to show the world that she was right to divorce her ex and therefore will make more compromises. Not true. If she divorced her ex husband, she is statistically much more likely to divorce her current one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:52 PM
2

Well if it was a different word, with a different meaning, as you seem to agree that it was, why are you bringing it up in the same sentence as chastity?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:33 PM
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I'm using the word "chastity" by it's only definition. The word probably didn't exist before Jesus's. It's probably much newer, so there is no old testament, or caveman use of the word. Just the one definition we use now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:13 PM
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Yes but if you were to complain that someone many women were becoming pro wrestlers, I think you would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:40 PM
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What I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:40 PM
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It's just not clear why your comment that I responded to was about grandmother's, as if grandfather's had no part in raising the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:51 AM
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You're not that subtle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:50 AM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:49 AM
0

Many societies have had prostitution side by side with marital chastity. No they didn't. If you think about it, it's actually not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:46 AM
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Yup. Could you get to whatever point you're trying to make a bit more directly?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:56 PM
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If they do their job properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:34 PM
4

Everyone's father was once a single man that was trying to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:27 PM
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You think men were objecting to it at the time? No. The men back then thought relaxing sexual morality would lead to them getting laid more often so supported it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:19 PM
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It's not your grandmother's fault if you're watching gangbang porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:16 PM
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Women are already pushing the meme that it’s hypocritical to watch porn but not be okay with dating a pornstar. We can't be surprised thatbporn becoming normalised coincides with other forms of sexual degeneracy. Women aren't going to behave how their grandmother's did, if we're regularly beating our meat to gangbangs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 02:34 PM
1

A problem for who? You? Why should other men, collectively, care about reducing their own dating success for your benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:04 PM

So how far into adulthood can I continue blaming my mum for my personality defects? You can learn these things as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:49 PM

Because being in good shape and well groomed is very different to following existing podcasters. It's clearly not hypocritical to dislike sexism, whilst liking physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 09:46 PM
4

Given that 70%-90% of divorces are initiated by women 67%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:38 PM
1

I believe there is a lot of debate amongst professionals as to whether or not it qualifies as an addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:19 PM
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If we're talking about addiction, it's a health issues, which shouldn't be limited to pill ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:18 PM
1

You keep saying that. Might have been worth clarifying what this means in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:14 PM
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It's not supposed to BRING benefits. It's supposed to BE the benefit. It's beneficial if it's the lifestyle you aspire to have. If you want a high paying career, obviously, it's not for you. Let's be clear though, not all husbands are equal, so that fact that someone can find one, doesn't say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:13 PM
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Hopefully your parents will teach you how to form relationships though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:54 PM
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I'd rather sleep with someone that I know is attracted to me. Even if they're the less physically attractive option (within reason)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:37 PM
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What's there to debate? I'd personally disagree, but it's a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:23 PM

He didn't "dodge" anything. The bullet swerved around him. But yes, he is probably better off not dating someone that drives whilst drunk. She could end up crashing his car, crashing with him in the car, or being irresponsible in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:38 PM
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Tou can't just take three examples that make a certain point and assume that's what everyone else really wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:36 PM
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I can make a long list of similarities between sheep and horses, that doesn't make them "exactly the same".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:17 PM
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Is this surprising though? Something being irritating does not mean going to the opposite extreme is ideal. Most people aren't attracted to anorexic, or obese, people. Someone can talk constantly and be annoying, or never speak and be boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:15 PM
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Most men talk about leagues, lik your rating outnof ten, as a vague way of stating how attractive someone is. It's only a few people on here that believe in a strict scoring system. No-one believes that everyone is equally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:34 PM
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In what world are men expected to not ask for sex?? Who are all these men that are grudgingly leading a life of celibacy, whilst handing out cash to random women? Men can, and do, ask for sex. That's how they end up having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 07:08 AM
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This is like the post a few days ago about how redpill influences don't actually love by what they advise. In both cases, they say what sells, not what they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:39 PM
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So you have to be an attractive man to be a betabux?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:06 PM

It's not about physical attraction, it's about new relationship energy, and it fading after time. The man has generally not become less physically attractive, and they usually had a lot of sex in the beginning, which is why he's surprised by the change. The reason women often blame his lack of chores could be deliberately manipulation. I'm sure it is in a lot of cases. It could also be that she is finding things annoying that had always been the case, but could be overlooked when there was const…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:53 PM

How does your question relate to what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:19 PM

I'm not saying it's true or not. I'm just saying that if it were true, that would not stop there being autistic women, or autistic uncircumcised men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:17 PM

They said that circumcision increases the risk. I don't know what you're confused about. Smoking increases the risk of lung cancer, but you'll still find examples of non smokers getting it, or smokers not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:59 PM

That's not what any of them said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 04:55 PM
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Why are you only quoting young men in the statistics? Do men stop mattering after 30? No. They just don't support your argument if you include them. Dishonest cherry picking of data.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:58 PM
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There has to be a comparison though. If a woman likes large penises, it's relative to medium or small ones. If a woman said she liked average ones because she'd never had a big one, that would seem meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:04 AM
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At the same time, small penises, or even average-sized penises, aren't nearly as sexualized. I think it's because no-one appreciates comments, even positive ones, about small of average penises. A woman talking about how much she loves her boyfriend's huge dick, would be seen as a great compliment by everyone. A woman talking about how much she loves the fact her partner is average, and therefore doesn't hurt like her ex did, would be seen as a humiliating insult, even if true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:55 AM

Well where else are you going to be discussing it? I'm not going to talk about my breast preferences at work. I wouldn't expect women to talk about which kicks they like unless they're with their female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:24 PM

I'd assume so. I don't think penis size is near the top of the list of traits women select based on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:16 PM

Does it? I've never heard that men aren't supposed to like big boobs. Who's shaming men for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:10 PM

But would you say that size matters for men? Most would argue no, even if they like bigger. "Matters" is a pretty vague term. Like you said, most men probably prefer bigger ones, but it's not as if most men wouldn't date a woman with small ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:05 PM

The studies available suggest preference is slightly larger than average. Of course, there is variance though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:56 PM

Saw the trailer for this. Really didn't expect it to be the sort of show where anyone gets their cock out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:53 PM

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:22 PM

Right, so the individual states make their own laws on murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:11 PM

Murder was an example in response to OP saying abortion should be federal controlled, because of how serious it is. That makes no sense if murder is not. There are other examples. Are you arguing that it should be federally banned? Or are you not arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:11 PM

They said they wanted it to be a states’ issue. No you don’t, that’s a lie and you know it. You said it was baby murder. You’re okay with baby murder as long as it happens in a different state? All murder is a states issue. Why wouldn't abortion be?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:20 PM

Then why did you post one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:37 PM

I'd be interested to see how they came to this conclusion. There is a study where they gave women disposable to choose from and they seemed to prefer about 6.5" x 4.8". Bigger than average, but nowhere near this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:07 PM

So if I like the look of young attractive women with big tits, I have to allow my children to be eaten by wolves, or die by their first infection? No. Obviously not. We don't have to go to either extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:04 PM

The rest are probably in dead bedroom betabucks relationships which means de facto single. This is the problem. 100% of men could be in relationships. The pill crowd would still make up crap like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:01 PM
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Right. So it's nowhere near as simple as "fish vs fisherman". As you've said, sometimes men will give honest advice, sometimes they will be the one lying. Same with women. Basically, ask yourself whether the person you are taking advice from stands to gain anything g by lying to you. Are they trying to have sex with you? Are they selling an online course?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:27 PM
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So in this case, asking a fish is a good tactic then? Everyone already knows women like attractive men. What's the point in lying for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:46 PM
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So would you agree that men are unable to express what we find attractive in a woman? You think you'd get a more accurate picture of what men find attractive by asking women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:39 PM
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Which dick size study are you talking about? What, and who were they asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:36 PM
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The most common objections to it are that fish don't want to be caught, and that it implies a predatory relationship between fisherman and fish. This is the real issue with it though. If a fish could speak, it would obviously not want to help you to catch it, because it is painful and/or deadly for them to be caught. There is no such incentive for women to lie. Imagine how ridiculous it would sound if someone said, "if you want to know what men are attracted to, don't ask men, they don't know. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:34 PM
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It would be better if men stopped doing the bad stuff and did more good stuff. The holocaust is not a reason to sit around playing games video games and watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 07:08 PM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:33 PM
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Right but selecting for it would require being able to tell in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:54 PM
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Well you don't always know who will be a good or bad father until they are one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:06 PM
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It's impossible to argue with a post that is purely based on your personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:41 PM
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In addition, struggling men can take individual actions to ensure life stays unfair for others on a day to day basis, such as not helping/defending women physically or verbally Is that something you had previously been doing daily?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:50 PM
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I'm not surprised women love him. He's good looking and seems nice, which everyone likes. Also a SJW for women that like that, and a cold blooded killer, for women that like those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:49 PM
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I love that after reading many studies, you've come to reddit, specifically PPD, for a final verdict.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:02 PM

Ok. That might have seemed profound in your head, but we can really say that about every group or individual. Poor people only have rights because rich people allow it. Physically weak men only have thumbs, testicle, and their anal virginity because physically strong men allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:34 AM
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Because the whole concept is based on the idea that she prefers the alpha. If she's satisfied with the beta, all that's happened is her tastes have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:59 AM
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Surely this is the opposite to afbb. She's not mentioned being unhappy or resentful of him. Or that she would prefer to be with one of the alpha men from her youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 08:42 PM
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1: Biology. Us men organised pretty easily from having our dicks stroked, so the least skilled woman can still bring us to orgasm. Women require a bit more time and technique. 2: men should put in more effort. Women should stop having sex with men that don't satisfy them. 3: Both, equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:22 PM

Military veterans don't seek to kill anyone to alleviate their PTSD. Pregnant women should have access to therapy if needed. Of course I support children. The Curch has historically been a big provider of support for the poor. Would have always been easier to just say, "kill them, then they won't be poor", but that violates the sanctity of life. He said "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone." Lol have you read that story?? It wasn't a metaphors. There were people literally about to cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:45 PM

You can't willingly allow someone into your home, then shoot them as if they are a home invader, so that's where the first analogy fails in 97% of cases. Also deals with that Exodus example. The New Testament elevates the value of our bodies to something sacred. Yes, but other people's bodies are also sacred. This is why all forms of murder are illegal. Most people agree that in the incredibly small amount of cases where the woman's life is in danger, abortion is justified. Is a woman whose spir…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:29 PM
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So you wanted rose to walk into the dining hall like Tony Montanna? Good thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:14 PM
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I think it's the combined weight that was questionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:13 PM
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Really curious as to what got said here that reddit removed. Did you just respond by calling him a cunt or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 10:00 AM
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it further proves Movies don't prove anything. They're fictional. Worth noting though, that if she'd just stayed on the lifeboat, rather than taking a space then jumping off, he could have sat on the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:11 AM

Anytime men say anything shitty, it's very serious and reflective of what all men think. Why would you assume that? Do you not think men are individuals too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:55 PM

Pretty much every sort of content exists. I think you're overestimating it's prevalence though, if it's shaping your view of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:04 PM

You can do what you want. No-one really cares. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:42 PM

Appropriate respect can be just keeping quiet. The difference between appropriate respect and being expected to cry, is an huge as the difference between necessary evil and unfortunate side effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:33 PM

Got to pick your battles. No woman is going to be impressed by seeing you get battered over queue jumping.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:29 PM

so school shootings are a necessary evil for gun rights No-one said they're a necessary evil. They said they're an unfortunate side effect. No-one has ever said they are necessary. Just like no-one has asked you to cry about Charlie Kirk's death. Nor everything is about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:28 PM

Scroll through social media and it’s unavoidable: women celebrating male suicide rates, laughing at male infant deaths, spreading hashtags like #killallmen This is the problem (or success) with social media. They deliberately put stuff know your feed that they know will rile you up to get you coming back. I've never seen any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:24 PM
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Should be an easy question to answer by providing a time where people pretended that women did not like attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 09:05 PM
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Don't we all do things at work that we wouldn't do for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:20 PM
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What do you mean by no such thing? There are qualities, some can be describes as alpha or beta. There's no official definition though. To some, alpha means being the playground bully. To some it means being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:09 PM
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No. What are these men's alternatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:34 PM
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Most of these responses i'm receiving g seem to be something along the lines of, "women won't want to date foreign members because women don't date homeless men or men from slums". You are aware that there are plenty of men outside your country with decent incomes, don't you? The world isn't split into USA/hunter gatherers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 07:32 PM
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Ah I see the issue. You think everyone outside America lolives in a mud hut. That's actually not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:20 PM
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There are certainly not. Worldwide, there are enough men that this would not tilt the dating market in your favour. You can dream, but it would not do what you are hoping it would. If the option to leave involves deportation, that is not really a consensual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:55 PM
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There are enough that would be desirable. This is just another plan that would end up backfiring. Men thought if we loosened up serial morality, it would lead to us all having loads of casual sex. That backfired spectacularly. This would be the same. Plus, like I said, the human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:44 PM
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30% of African men believe it's acceptable to beat your wife. So 70% believe it's unacceptable. That's a lot of men. But they won't date the guy who makes $15 an hour. They will if he comes from a country with the largest average penis size of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:29 PM
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Would you still approve when American women start mass importing men from the Congo? This is also essentially human trafficking. The partner will get deported if you break up, I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:55 PM
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Right, but do you know how much each of them is selling? It's a pretty competitive market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 05:22 PM
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What are you basing that on?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:53 PM
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How much do you think the average drug dealer makes? I think you're focusing on the very top ones, which to be fair, is probably what schoolchildren are drawn in by.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:02 AM
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Sounds crazy, but my wife's friend has a new boyfriend that's pretty much said this. That he always wanted children but will be happy helping with her three. She even said she'd be open to having more in a few years, but he's said no, he's happy with the ones she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:56 PM
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I quite like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:00 PM
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You're not going to like this, but the ones saying women are, and aren't a monolith, are different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:51 PM
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Pretty expensive if you want hookers that don't look homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:01 PM
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It's sad, but I hear variants of this, "it must be true because a lot of people believe it" argument in a lot of circles. It's never a good argument though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:55 PM
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I had only heard of the first one. Does make sense though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:33 PM
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Turns out recent mass shooters have been trannies. Shooters? As in plural?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:03 PM
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Why would anyone feel bad for him? We've all had our feelings hurt in the past. This is how a toddler responds. Edit: also, it wasn't an MMA incident. Had nothing to do with MMA.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:23 PM
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No-one every gets to the point where they think, "I've had enough fun for a lifetime. None will be required from now on".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:24 PM
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I don't think anyone would want this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:09 PM

1: in theory, you can report these for "response not relevant to post" 2: you can't just accept all studies. That would be completely illogical, when there are so many conflicting ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:57 PM
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Loads of people care about those groups. "Anti-semite" is one of the most popular smears for people to use these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:29 PM
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Example?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:08 PM
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I think it's the generalisations. You make negative generalisations against any group, people will dislike that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:03 PM
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This we why people oppose the assisted dying laws. This is the end goal of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:38 AM
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People have already been saying that about Natives Who's saying that? Not the natives themselves. No other culture celebrates their own disappearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:55 AM
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The aim would be keeping the population consistent, or a gradually reduction. We don't have to go to one extreme or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:53 AM
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That's certainly a solution. We can call that plan b if we can't figure out how to increase births.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:18 PM
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They generally don't do so this willingly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:10 PM
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They're currently working on that. Just because a solution doesn't exist, doesn't mean anyone wants to enslave anyone for breeding purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:07 PM
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Communism isn't the only economic model. The one we currently have was new once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:05 PM
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People don't just exist to pay taxes. They care for the elderly. They maintain the infrastructure. There's also the cultural shift. Which is a good or bad thing, depending on your personal opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:04 PM
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To be fair, there's nothing wrong with using personal experiences and anecdotes. It's only an issue when people start claiming that they're statistics, or proven facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:41 AM
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I understood it fine. What I don't understand is why people keep making posts about ridiculous claims with no evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:46 PM
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Your whole post is about women leaving if you treat them well. Why are you now waffling about well paid vs poorly paid? I'll ask you a third time, and if you can't, I'll assume you're just making it up. Which statistics show that many women leave men because they treat them well?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:42 PM
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Ok but that doesn't actually address either of the points I made. Which statistics show that women leave men for being nice to them? This is the point in your post, so it seems strange that you're avoiding showing any evidence. It.being a question of economics, does not change the fact that it is clearly something most men care about. Caring about something for economic reasons, is still caring about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:32 PM
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Due to marriage statistics Are you able to quote that statistics showing that large numbers of women are divorcing due to their husbands being nice to them? We marry the same because at large women your age demand to be above or at least on par That doesn't explain why most men are not marrying women far below them in terms of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:00 PM
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Men do not care if your taller,make more, or if your social class is the same. Of course men aren't concerned with women being taller, but we all tend to marry withing our own class/economic level. After a while, after being treated very well, many women believe they can do better and leave with many excuses. What are you basing this on? I notice you use the vague term "many" rather than the "most" used in the title. How common do you think this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 09:32 PM

Getting into a long term relationship in your early 20s prevents you from doing self exploration and experiencing being young and single and having fun What fun does it prevent? Casual sex? Short term flings? A good partner is better than those things. If you get into a serious relationship with a guy too early you dont know if hes just with you for your looks. Theres no way to differientiate if hes just obsessed with your youthful looks or you as a person. So attractive people shouldn't get int…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:26 PM
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Not really sure that qualifies. You didn't physically protect them. Also, unless you still live with your sisters, you're going to struggle to persuade them to come cook for you. Worth a try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:37 PM
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If you have actually saved a woman from being murdered by home intruders, I agree that she should cook for you every day. If not, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:32 PM
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Yeah but if the situation never happens, which it probably won't, it doesn't matter how much time you spent preparing for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 02:30 PM
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You live about 20k days in your adult life. You’re bound to reach a conflict at some point. There is not logic in this. The fact you live a certain amount of days does not mean you will rescue a woman from a violent situation. It's ridiculous to suggest a woman should cook your meals, a situation which happens three times a day, in exchange for you fighting a robber, I situation which will probably never happen in your life. That's not an equal exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:21 PM
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That kind of incident isn't the exception, but the norm. It is certainly not the norm, it's a situation very few men have ever been in. I've only done it once, and just someone else being present calmed the situation down. Most men threatening to stop protecting women, is similar to threatening to stop curing diseases if I don't get my way. They were never going to anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:24 AM
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I've been downstairs to check noises a few times in our marriage, if we're counting that as protecting. Will probably continue to do so despite certain gender roles not being as rigid as in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:53 PM
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Boycotting and striking are common tools of activism. What you don't do can be just as impactful as what you do do. these feminists are not signing up for military service en masse, nor are they advocating for conscription be outlawed Why would they do either of those things? When advocating for your own group, you don't have to solve the problems of a different group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:48 PM
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Is this actually about gender equality, or is it more a case of sulking and therefore refusing to protect women out of spite? Because a huge majority of men will never be in the situation to protect a woman, and would be unable if they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:19 PM
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I think people just generally don't like it when someone's desperate situation is used to extract sex from them. No-one's concerned with how it affects the dating market, because desirable men aren't partaking. No-one cares that they are getting their sexual needs met, as we can see from the whole sex robots debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:08 PM

Yeah I've had similar experiences. Gone to an independent café to support them, and seen a black coffee cost £3.50. Just go to Gregg's now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:38 PM

Yeah good point. No way a married person could leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:02 PM

If most men could just get women have kids and leave they would they don’t because they cant That's clearly not true. All men with kids have the option of leaving, yet most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:47 AM

More likely that stupidnpeople are just unaware what taxes they pay. Unless you somehow don't live somewhere with property taxes, never go to a shop, and have never used a petrol vehicle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:13 AM
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Having Christ as a central figure is a pretty vague definition. Some would say he's God. Some say an angel. Some say a man that became God. There is a lot of debate as to what beliefs a person can hold and still call themselves Christian, and there is always the risk of falling into a no true Scotsmen fallacy when doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:44 AM
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If you want to spread your genes, the best way is to get married. That is statistically how most babies are made. The men with the most children have done so with one long term partner. I am yet to meet a man with more that one child through casual sex. This, aside from being immoral, is just numerically wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:40 AM
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Well there have been centuries of war over what constitutes true Christianity, so obviously it's not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:56 PM
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It's more like saying there isn't a universal definition of Christianity. There are over 40,000 denominations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:43 PM
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I know it wasn't, but that's the story they tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:42 PM
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The entire story told by TRP is that it was all common knowledge before feminist misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:39 PM
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Right but it has no authority. It's just the opinion of one writer. As you will see, plenty disagree on what is and isn't RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:38 PM
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You could day the opposite though. If the redpill gave good advice, there would be no market for any other advice. Obviously that is not the case though, because as with any good advice, there is always still a market for bad advice which attracts plenty of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:34 PM
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People need good advice, which works. The label redpill is useless because there is no strict definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:32 PM
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Heart attacks and cancer are things we need to adapt to now. As well as the chemicals that cause infertility. Life's safer now, but until everyone is reproducing equally, we're adapting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:13 AM
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I think sexual selection would still qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:08 AM
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Sexual selection is a form of natural selection. How are you defining what is natural and what is not? True natural selection rewards traits that ensure survival strength, intelligence, resourcefulness not just raw physical appearance Did peacocks develop their feathers through something other than natural selection?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:55 AM

I don't claim to know the personal details about people I've never met.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:40 AM

Yeah that sounds like a good deal. Not sure why anyone wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 09:10 PM
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Of course it has to be said. Otherwise you can just make up anything and use it as an "example" of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:08 PM
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Doesn't say that anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 06:29 PM
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Nothing in the post suggests that the kids are the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:34 PM
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I think most of the hate, comes fr9m conflating them with sex tourists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:04 PM
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Can we have a few examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:00 PM
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Not sure how old you are, but in the UK, I believe women in general outearn men under 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:00 PM
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The kids aren't the issues here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:59 PM

Making it profitable seems to be the difficult part, (I assume from watching Gordon Ramsey's show). As you say, most people can make a half decent meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:51 PM

Is it confusing that someone could care about other people's children?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:14 PM

Does that surprise you? I'd assume starting any business would be hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:13 PM
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She doesn’t respect or love you in the first place Who are you talking about? Seems like you're talking about someone specific. Leaving is when you stop being with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:57 PM
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The man that she's statistically less likely to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:56 PM
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Maybe. That would contradict the idea that women that have their fun whilst young struggle with a more stable man later on. Really, what you're saying would suggest that the more she's slept around, the better her odds of a lasting marriage, which doesn't seem likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 11:02 AM
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The average age for a woman to get married for the first time is 27, so they're settling down pretty young. Settling down later seems to reduce divorce rates on average though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:40 PM
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The first two require self control on his part, which can really counteract those negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:49 AM
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What is there to disagree on? Only point of contention I see is that I wouldn’t say “all you’re good for”. Would you not agree though, that if a woman is only ever persued for sex, or a man is only ever persued for his resources, then they probably don't have other attractive qualities? Surely if they did, those qualities would also attract someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:46 PM
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Classic. Just start repeating yourself when you run out of points. Didn't take long.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:04 PM
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I think it's usually the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:21 PM
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This is a dumb response. You've gone from, "anything other than this is very rare", to "it exists". What I'm doing is the opposite to simping. You're suggesting the best way to attract women is by leading with your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:11 PM
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Very few men are rich enough to justify this paranoia.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:03 PM

But there's no physical benefit to running at 2am vs during the daytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:10 PM

I'm just not seeing the relevance of 2am.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:02 PM

There is a reason I run 5 miles at 2 AM around the neighborhood & it ain’t to get with a single Mom that weighs more than me. Lol what is the reason then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:32 PM

What are we debating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:25 PM
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When people say "toxic masculinity". They are not criticising masculinity. Otherwise, they wouldn't bother including the word "toxic" every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:54 PM
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The "two different women" statement wouldn't be relevant here. That's for when someone takes two contradictory quotes, and acts as of they're am example of hypocrisy, when in reality they are just two separate people that disagree with each other. You can make generalisations. Just don't act as if everyone else is obligated to conform to your generalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:41 PM
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You can't avoid them 100%, but if you don't rape anyone, the risk is barely worth worrying about. Plenty of more pressing issues like checking your testicle for lumps, making sure your brakes are working properly, and ensuring your get enough fibre in your diet. All statistically much more dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:26 PM

Kind of like how you're ignoring all the women in healthy relationships to concentrate on the ones that get cheated on. Then use that to bash all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 02:09 PM
1

There's a middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:20 AM
1

In what world are feminists not accused of being lesbians??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:19 AM

Not everyone can have looks, charisma, or status either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:13 AM
1

So because t didn't achieve anything for women, it's a good idea for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:12 AM

Having a decent job seems as easy as the others
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:56 AM

Sounds even worse than older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:19 AM

Good deeds don't stop being good because they were done based on someone's advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:06 AM

Don't red pillers also expect a man to have a decent job?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:04 AM

Because some men cheat, just like how some women cheat. Any more questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:55 AM
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There's nothing stopping a woman falsely accusing a man that she has never spoken to. This achieves nothing. No-one is going to live as a hermit just to avoid something that was never likely to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:53 AM
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How can they not afford to get married? 99% of people that say that, actually can't afford a big party, which is more important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 09:02 PM
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On top of that, the men who meet the 3 E's are the men who are NOT interested in marriage Where are you getting this from? Of course for the most desirable of anything, demand will outstrip supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:19 PM
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This is pure ugly man propaganda. They want to convince women that there is a benefit to dating ugly men, as if there has to be a trade off. It's obviously not true. Life is not that fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:42 PM
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"Women say they want one thing, but pill people on reddit say they want something else. How can this be true?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:26 PM

Well with the ascension, we don't have anything to examine to know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 02:11 PM
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It's pretty much the opposite. There are plenty of female pastors in evangelical churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:29 AM

To be fair, he probably didn't look much like that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:48 AM
1

As you should. You have to do provide ID to buy cigarettes or beer. Should be the same with other age restricted things. Otherwise ust don't bother with the age restriction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:46 AM
1

The post isn't about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:42 AM
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Because that’s what women like. This is what I mean. Most women are clearly not dating abusive men, but you only pay attention to the women that are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:41 AM
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Fair enough. Maybe "reward" is the wrong word. But it's a positive situation to get into. Meaning that something that makes it more likely to happen, will be encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:43 PM
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Validation, but also men just like dating women. Why would women date toxic men for validation? Does a man have to be toxic to provide validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:30 PM
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How many? Could you please share one of these studies? My point is, just go for the other women rather than complaining about the ones that like these particular men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:25 PM
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I think the real question is, "why are so many men attracted to the small minority of women that like abusive men?". It's such a small minority, yet so many men on here act like these are the only women worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:44 PM
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How would it not be seen as a reward? Men like to date women. Recieving something you like, is a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:42 PM
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Firstly, what do you mean by, "so many"? It's pretty simple though. Some women are voluntarily celibate, or some men are having a higher than average amount of six.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:56 PM
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Are we talking about fucking up in the same way? What fuck ups do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:51 PM
1

Last? Three's the magic number! Congratulations though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:39 AM
1

Tbh, I'm uncircumcised, and a bit of hand cream can be a positive addition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:35 AM
1

I read somewhere that drinking a bit before bed reduces your risk of heart attacks in the night, so could be worth having a small one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:21 AM
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Because it's anonymous. People don't have to worry about any repercussions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:20 AM
2

I think they always need a lubricant. Hand cream or similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:18 AM
2

Deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 05:16 PM
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That's where the goalposts have been for this entire conversation. Wherlther or not they are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:24 PM
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There's no evidence of your claim? My claim is that there is no evidence. This is like those memes when someone gets asked to prove their delivery didn't arrive so sends a photo of their empty hand. Google the evidence and you'll find it to not be there. It's not my job to prove your argument. And I didn't ask you to. You wanted to talk to me about this, not the other way round. Anyway, of we don't have any evidence either way, maybe just don't be performing any medical procedures on anyone. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:19 PM
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The claim I made was that there is no evidence. What are you expecting me to do? Show you every book ever published to prove none of them provide evidence? That's the only way to prove something doesn't exist. Whereas you could easily prove me wrong, of I am wrong, by providing a single piece of evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:12 PM
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Sane. Autocorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:10 PM
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It really doesn't. Show me something that brings there suicide rates down to somewhere near those of same people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:09 PM
2

So a tiny fraction. That's what "few" means. Well there isn't really a numerical definition for "few" or "tiny", so I don't know what point you think you just made. My point was that it's a rapidly growing number. Lol, what do you mean "source"? Source of there not being evidence? The fact you can't provide a source is my source.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:06 PM
1

Yes. Mentally ill people of all types are vunerable to discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 04:04 PM
0

It helps slightly, but does not lowers the suicide rate to that of mentally healthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:46 PM
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Not sure about that. That is a lot of history. In Africa and Asia, there are plenty of examples of kings that love in a palace full of their harem, and loyal eunuchs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:32 PM
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The trans community makes up such a tiny fraction of the population why even care. That's not really true anymore though. In the UK, every school seems to have a few kids in each year that are trans. There's no evidence that that was the case 10/20 years ago, and the kids were just repressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 08:34 AM
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If your answer is "it's a disease" then how do you explain trans people being happy after transition? We can explain that by pointing out they still have an enormous suicide rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 08:28 AM
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I think we just have to accept the fact that being hit on when you don't want to be is always going to be annoying. Women don't want it to happen, and men have to try to gauge when it will be well received. Men also have to accept a slight element of risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:05 PM
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Firstly, I don't see what's blue pilled about self improving. Secondly, no, of course loving yourself doesn't contradict the idea of self improvement. I want my children to learn, grow, and improve as people. Do you think that means I don't love them? If I don't value a car, I run it into the ground then scrap it. If I do value it, I maintain it, and improve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:03 PM
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But the market has determined that product 1 has higher value, because people are willing to pay more for it. More being owned does not mean the product is higher value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:51 PM
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Most men want those things anyway though, and consider doing at least some of them, to be worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:12 PM
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Yes I agree it is probably too much effort, if you are only doing it all to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:47 PM
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I guess it depends what hoops you mean. Stuff like getting fitter, or improving looks or financial situation bring benefits other than women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:29 PM
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I think we swapped women with neighbouring tribes for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:55 PM
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Even then though, what's the punishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:37 PM
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Do you know of any examples of a man being punished for proposing in the wrong position? At worst, she might say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:36 PM
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I'm sure some women do engage in hypocrisy. I was pointing out they way in which OP was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:24 PM
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Well they'd be punished for not doing so, so it's not comparable. They still can if they want to. Men can propose in a seated, or upright position.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:23 PM
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Right. That's my point really. The person I responded to saying men are leaders, yet should wait to be proposed to when we want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:44 PM
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If it causes harm, tradition is not a reason to continue doing something. If it's inconcequential, we tend to just continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:42 PM
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Then he wouldn't be the leader would he. He'd be the one waiting for her to lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:11 AM
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It makes more sense for women to kneel than for the man. How would that work? "Hey, kneel down so I can ask you something.". He's the one asking the question, so he has to be the one changing his body position. You're right though, there's no objective reason he needs to be kneeling, it's just tradition. There's no reason he has to be offering a ring either. In cultures, these symbolic things matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:04 AM
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Most things said during sex would be considered inappropriate to say on a bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:16 AM

Think he'll out-deport Obama?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:22 AM
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I'd always like it every day or two. She can sometimes go a couple of weeks without, but will sometimes have a week where she wants it multiple times a day. I struggle with that by the second day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:38 AM
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I have done when I wasn't completely in the mood. Our problem is that my wife's sex drive is so variable, whilst mine is pretty consistent. I try to make her happy in any way I can though. EDIT: I guess "duty sex" was the wrong word. Damn. I meant with strangers not your partner obviously. Well then no, of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:16 PM

Neither can you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:11 PM

Sometimes I guess they want to see a specific woman naked. It seems to be women that are famous from something else that are raking in the big money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:09 PM
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Most people are conformists. That's how it works. If only 10% of people were doing it, it wouldn't be conformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:52 PM
1

How easily you learn is a good indicator of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:51 PM
1

You're 19. No-one's judging a nineteen year old on his wealth!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:54 PM
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Yes. There are many potential examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:34 PM
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AF/BB is an extremely crude way to say "People want different things at different stages in their lives. Young people like exciting partners, then they prefer stability later on in life. No it doesn't. It means the exact opposite to that. The idea is that women prefer alphas, or the men they hooked up with whilst young. The idea is that they prefer those men at every stage of life, ond if they marry a different type of man later, the beta, it's grudgingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:21 PM
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Well it's clearly not who's saying it, seeing as it's the same person both times. I don't know whether or not they agree. That would depend on what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:19 PM
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The title of the post they detest the label and who is declaring them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:07 PM
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So I assume you would disagree with the post, if it is the ideas that people dislike, rather than the labels?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:00 PM
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When you say something red pilled, or when you use the label?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:44 PM
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No. OP is saying that they don't like who is saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:43 PM
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I would bet that almost every single man here would find exactly the same kind of women attractive 20 years ago as they do now. Why would you assume that! You can see from actresses/models/porn that the most attractive women are different in different decades. Why would you think that you're immune to any societal influence?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:36 PM
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Which red pill ideas are you talking about though? There are plenty that most people would disagree with. When you bring the word hypergamy on the table they will object and say it doesn’t exist, but if you say women will date a man at least on their level minimum they will nod along So it's not that they disagree with who said it, it's the wording. Because in both examples it's you saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:33 PM
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It's weird to call this a "popular opinion", as if it's something new that's gaining traction. This is just what 99.99% of people throughout history have known. They still know it, there's just a minor, temporary push to shut down these obvious statement s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:46 AM

You sure they're not reaching out for rebound sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:45 AM
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Yes but one is much more extreme than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:22 AM

Not that I want to, but someone could probably dox you by zooming in on this medals and checking who won them. Well done though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:54 AM

Bit of a stretch to watch two people smoking weed for an hour, and assume they have a happy marriage!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:33 AM

Haha good one! But no, I dkn't think it's cheating, as the same rules apply to everyone. I do think it's unnecessarily dangerous though. I believe more fighters have died weight cutting, than fighting. UFC should use a system like One FC.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:31 AM
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There's nothing wrong with it, when it happens and works. There is something very wrong about lying to me in their 20s about how common this is, and that they will become attractive once they hit middle age. This causes them to make bad relationship decisions when they are young.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:14 AM

Something doesn't have to be lethal to be a problem, and pointing out a problem doesn't not automatically mean enslaving people to solve that problem. If something negatively impacts certain people, it is a problem, at least for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 08:10 AM

Why are you assuming that their jobs are the reason they struggle?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:05 AM
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Sounds like a deal. She can come stay in my mansion from the money the wealthy Nigerian banker sent me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:24 PM
1

On average, probably not a lot, but if start a big enough church, you can become a multimillionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:42 PM
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Anyone can become a pastor. There's no governing body. You can call yourself a pastor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:01 PM
1

Any sexual history outside of marriage What about within marriage? Would being divorced not be a deal-breaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:01 PM
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None of those things are disappearing any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:18 PM
1

I assume you're joking, but really missing the point of your decision is based on who the Pope is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:12 PM
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Having tons of lonely single men (incels) is actually very dangerous for society/the government as they could revolt or commit crime. I think this is a myth. They've been threatening a revolt for over a decade now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:07 PM

That’s what detransitioners are. People who tried out being trans and then realized they weren’t. But while they were thing out being trans, they were identifying as the sex they transitioned to. If they weren't trans then, what makes someone trans?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 10:32 AM
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In what way we're they not trans?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:20 AM
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Because medical professionals shouldn't be performing procedures that are harmful. Experts have a duty of care to vulnerable people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:17 AM
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Might as well just get cosmetic surgery and stay male, than get yourself castrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 06:53 AM

Yes but there is no suggestion of good deeds leading to good luck in this life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 08:27 PM

Which religions would lead to this belief? Maybe Hinduism, with their sense of karma, but not really any that are common in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:25 PM

I don't even think it's about parenthood, because the liberal view is that unmarried couples do just as well at raising children. Go even more liberal, and a single woman can do just as good a job as a married couple. The modern liberal view, is that you get married because you love each other. That, by itself, makes no sense. There is no reason to marry someone just because you live them. Which is why many people just don't bother. It's certainly not seen as a permanent commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 04:21 PM
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I mean if they want to date a Chad they need to pretend for avg men most of the time it depends . Why would they have to pretend for the average man? Do you mean in order to date the average man? Why would you want to date someone that you have to pretend to like? I mean if women have it it is only fair that men should too. Well everyone has it. We just don't use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:01 AM
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If you can hold a conversation and pretend to have interest in someone for 5 minutes, But why would they want to pretend to have interest in someone? How's it an advantage to be able to attract someone you're not interested in? And even if u want a 9 women have makeups , hair extenders I'm pretty glad men don't have this, and would prefer not to be with a woman that did this too much. You end up dating someone that's ugly when you're home with her, and stunning whenever you leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:47 AM
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Also had Pokémon cards, but the Gameboy games I used to play have also got pretty expensive recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:34 PM
1

Some men prefer chubby women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:33 PM
0

What's the difference between you liking something, and your biology liking it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:42 PM
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There are stories about pretty much anything. Hopefully, most people have kids believing them to be worth the effort involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:41 PM
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The problem is how it's used. I think most people would accept someone saying "all women" if it was something that 98% of women do, but it's regularly used for things that can only be backed up with the occasional annecdote, like "all women cheat with Chad", or, "all women are gold-diggers". There's at least got to be evidence for a high majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:34 PM

Bit of a weird picture to go with the caption. I wouldn't know from his expression that he was disapproving of something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:31 PM
1

I think red pillers are generally saying these women are less appealing for a relationship. Not that no-one will rub one out to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:31 PM

I don't think it will be lower than millennials. A lot of us bought into the idea of waiting til you're 30 before settling down. Hopefully the younger generation will see the effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:42 PM

If you love in the first world, you have first world problems. Are people in developed nations supposed to just never complain about anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:04 PM

If he didn't care enough to buy it, there's no chance he'll wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:03 PM

Why would men lie about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:02 PM

So what's the debate? We can use a different word for it if you want? Or is this just to wind people up/brag to the pill crowd?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:59 PM

He can do something about it. He can't outright stop her, but if they have a reasonable relationship, she'll seriously consider his advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:29 AM

Peaked in every physical sense. Well they're probably not having kids right away. There's a god chance he'll be around 50. Just being alive isn't really good enough for parenting. He'd be in his mid 60's parenting teenagers. It can be done, but much better to just date your own age, and have a man in his 40's when tour have teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:28 AM

What's unhinged about it? There's really nothing weird about not wanting your child dating someone decades older than them. She's wasting her best, most attractive years, with a man that peaked a long time ago. Not to mention that, statistically, if she decides to have kids with him, he likely won't be there til they reach adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:41 AM
1

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 08:58 AM
2

If all testosterone did was make us put things in the place we found them, we'd have evolved to stop producing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:50 AM
1

Men's one job in life is to pick up heavy things and put them down in the same place?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 07:23 AM
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Well by the definition of the word, it is settling. Really depends on what we're counting in these percentages. We should all have non negotioables, which a partner has tk hit 100% of. We all also have less important preferences, that are more of a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:22 PM

No, his choice was taken away as soon he came inside. He chose to come inside and I fully him for that. His choice wasn't "taken away". He made his choice. After you make a choice, it's made. Same with anything. Would you agree that he could choose not to impregnate a woman by not ejaculating inside her? Is so, he has a choice. If not, you're ignorant of basic biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:52 PM

He also chose to have a child with her. It's sad how poor the education system seems to be in some places, where people genuinely don't know how babies are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:57 PM

You stayed that 80% of the time women leave. So can you provide a source for that? Seeing as you're claiming it as a fact. Every source I've seen says 67%. Show me your source, and I'll show you mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:31 PM

Difference is we grew out of thay at age 11 Well the comments here provide plenty of counter examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:28 PM

Really not interested in explaining how babies are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:05 PM

Loser mentality. You make your own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:01 PM

The fact is that 80% of the time women leave. Untrue statistics. Kind of frustrating, because at this point, everyone repeating it is knowingly lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:59 PM

Why are you asking for concrete proof, whilst only providing, "from what I've heard..."?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:54 PM

You can just not get her pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:51 PM

So just don't get her pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:50 PM

Most aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:49 PM

Most people don't fit into these cartoonist stereotypes. Bad partners, and bad parents, generally appear normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:46 PM

The woman should choose not to have a child with the deadbeat. But he's responsible for the fact he is one. She should be accountable for her decisions. He should be accountable for his.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:44 PM

Great example of refusal to take accountability. A man can choose who to be impregnate, and who not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:42 PM

How's this blue pill? A pretty important part of TRP is, in theory, personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:09 PM

But he could choose not to be one. Expecting someone else to prevent a person's poor behaviour is textbook lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:06 PM
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Can you tell me exactly which time period existed when this was not known? I'll provide you with some nedua examples demonstrating that it was open, common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 08:38 AM
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Aren't you supposed to put a trigger warning before you talk about rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:03 PM
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You don't get to just pick and choose which ones you get to keep. Why not? We generally do all try to hold onto traditions that we like, or think are good. Whilst rejecting other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:59 PM
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None of these points can be claimed as red pill. They didn't invent self improvement, or money making, or the concept of height being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:50 PM
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But would be fine making people change infront of other people of the same sex. Its not about decency, its about sexism. It's not sexism. It goes both ways. Not discriminating over one sex. Do you understand the difference between, "I don't want men reading to kids" and "I don't want THESE men reading to kids"? Do you think they'd be protesting of some men wearing jeans and t-shirts were reading to kids? If not, them being male is not the issue Edit: you're right, I misread your original as "all…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:26 PM
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<Its not decency to force anyone to strip in front of any one. Only caring when its the opposite gender is sexism. Call it what you want. Most people don't want mixed sex changing rooms. That only became controversial recently when a tiny number of blokes decided theybdinldn't want to get changed with the other men. As we both no, the issue in thelat video is not them being male. Try again. Find someone that thinks men shouldn't read to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:02 PM
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<Also conservatives: “We cant let men in dress in women’s space! Nor can we let them read to kids! It leaves women and children vulnerable to predators.” The first half is pretty reasonable to anyone with common sense. It's not even about whether or not he will assault her. Just basic decency to not be stripping off in front of members of the opposite sex. The second part has never been said by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:22 PM
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That's not what a sex worker is. It's a classic tactic from people that, for some reason, feel they're not getting enough attention in life. Say something obviously incorrect, then when people point out that it's incorrect, say, "well it is correct if I just redefine all the words involved" I'm not a chef if I cook for my wife. Or a gardener, or cleaner. I don't do any of those things professionally. Misusing English isn't deep, or profound, although it is a good way of seeming those things to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:49 PM
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I don't think this is true. I think the reason we as men care so much, is because it's linked to ego and masculinity. Imagine hearing your partner tell you, "I prefer your penis, my ex's was way too big". If it was all about women caring, this statement should make us happy. Noman is going to be happy hearing this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:01 AM
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Like you said, RP is the strategy, the pill can't be there result. Like an actual pill, you can't say, "you didn't take our pill unless you recovered". The pill just didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:54 AM

My sister had an ex that said we made him feel like a third wheel. My wife also felt my younger sister always tried to get in the way when we tried to spend time together. Also, vaguely related, had an ex that seemed jealous that I got on with her younger brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:07 PM

I'd say getting above 800 is not about strategy. It's about avoiding unforced errors
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:04 PM
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Lol I don’t know why you’re trying to argue this with me Entire point in this sub. Also trying to understand the mentality. Also just find it hard to believe that any man would have never been curious enough to measure his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:01 PM
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Yeah, but you probably have a decent idea how I telligent you are, based on your time at school/work. Or just through conversations, getting a feeling for how many people feel way smarter/dumber than you. I can't imagine not being interested in whether I had a monster/micro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:26 PM
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You don't think you'd ever measure yours , if you had one? Surely you want to know what you have compared to average?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:52 AM

What's the motive for this lie? I like a good conspiracy theory, but there needs to be a motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:12 AM
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They're two completely different conversations. The first example is usually in a conversation about whether or not eighteen year old fantasise about men in their fifties. The second is referring to ages gaps of a few years, which can skew the results when you're looking at people within a specific, ten year, age range
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:02 PM
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There's some common, and good, advice we often give to women. "If men are only interested in your pussy, maybe it's because that's all you have to offer." This is also relevant of women are only interested in your resources. A poor, good looking man, will tell you that women are more interested in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:19 PM
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Thanks mate. I know how babies are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:41 PM
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That's not really relevant though. No-one thinks abortion should or shouldn't be allowed, depending on whether or not the woman is married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:27 AM
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But is there any reason for you believing that to be their reasons? It's easy to just make stuff up about people you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:15 AM
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Who are "they"? There are plenty of people that don't. Although it is mainly only religious people that opposed IVF for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:13 AM
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I think most people that are against abortion, are so because they believe the foetus is a human. Whether or not they are religious, that opinion does not change, based on how it was conceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:09 PM
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How are you pro choice, if you don't care whether women can get abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:00 PM
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Of course, in the case of "Grape," no one is against getting an abortion Yes they are. Loads of people aren't. If you think abortion is wrong, the pregnancy being caused by rape is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:59 PM

With 80 percent of the people initiating divorce being women I believed that this was an honest mistake the first few times I saw people say this. I now realise that's not the case, and it's just a deliberate lie. Look it up, it's about 67%. If for some reason you have to round to the nearest ten, say 70. It's just annoying how few people want to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:43 AM

Depends who you marry
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:15 AM

It's a case of risk Vs reward. Of course if you look at failed marriages, it's not worth it, although most don't end up losing much financially that they wouldn't have had they not been married. When you take into account the majority of cases where it last long term, it looks a lot more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:14 AM
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Something being highlighted doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:57 PM
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I think Jeff Bezos could still afford the surrogacy thing you described. I don't think he was "bankrupted" by the divorce. The problem that a lot of people miss, is that it takes more than just money to raise healthy children. If all it took was money, the richest man in the world's son wouldn't be on TV, dancing in a dress. Poor people, within reason, do a much better job of raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:47 PM
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I think the baby boom was more down to the fact that people had not had children for the war years. It was mainly the people who would have done so during that period.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:40 PM
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It's not a conspiracy. It's also not irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:54 PM
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Well I don't know about your personal life, so that may or may not be true. Assuming it is, that suggests that someone's past is extremely important.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:19 PM
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It's pretty normal for all people. Men and women. Your past is what makes you who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:10 PM
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Yeah, men also have insecurities. It's a valid reason to have a preference. Women also don't want a partner that makes them feel less secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:46 PM
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Different people want different things. RP is pretty meaningless when you speak to enough of them. You realise they all believe, and want, different things. Same with BP, seeing as that's just the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:18 PM
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It's ok to enjoy life. What are these goals you have to be working towards 24/7?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:29 PM
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He'd need to have above average intelligence to be able to successfully lie to average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:27 PM

I think the RP argument is that we stayed BP by not facing the difficulty that they did. Also that we' re not angry due to blissful ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 12:11 AM

It would make you more productive, but at a cost. Used to work with guys that took speed to improve output, but can't be good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:10 PM

I would assume it's harder to learn the older you are, so first attempt is still pretty good!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:07 PM

I think a lot of people assume he was innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:05 PM

What's wrong with dinner at 6 pm?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 11:47 PM

You should have been a violent felon, instead of choosing genetic ugliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:30 PM
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Because women talk to each other about these things. (I know you probably don't, but many other women do.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:29 PM

What's the point in the comparison though? It's not like we're all wondering whether we should be violent criminals, or become autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:32 AM
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Because the technology has only recently become available. People would have been doing it twenty years ago if they could. They just couldn't be bothered to actually draw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:44 AM

Someone doesn't have to be being actively oppressed by someone else to be experiencing an "issue". Loneliness is an issue for a lot of young people, even though no-one is physically forcing them to isolate (anymore).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:59 PM
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It's a combination. Struggling men are given simple explanations. A man that didn't struggle with dating couldn't be radicalised by this content, so if I had to choose one, it would be the datinf experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:57 PM
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It's just meaningless. Obviously, there's nothing wrong with knowing that people break up, it's just cringey and cultish to have these meaningless slogans
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:53 PM
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So you want higher than average amounts of sex for a LTR. No different than a woman wanting a man tjat's taller than average, or better than average in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:27 AM
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The problem is, when a women is with a hot, unemotional man, people here say, "look, this proves us right". There are plenty of examples of the opposite, they just get explained away with,"settling/AFBB...". No evidence would convince you otherwise, because any examples gets twisted to fit the pill narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:56 AM
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If everyone's a simp, then the word loses it's meaning. What would it take to not be a simp to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:37 AM

It's pretty open to interpretation. I see a lot of, "you probably think..."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:07 PM

I think this is the deleted scene
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:05 PM

You can make laws about begging for money, without making laws about standing around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:02 PM

No. Why would standing be illegal? Definitely wouldn't call a country "land of the free" if you can't just stand and chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:01 PM

3 men?? Three average men couldn't take on deontay wilder!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:00 PM

No but that's a good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:56 PM
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This seems like a form of the halo effect. I see no reason to assume that men with big dicks are any less likely to be rude about women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:19 PM
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Are you saying it can't happen, or that it's not happening right now? Because obviously society can ban one gender from driving, opening a bank account, going out without a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:23 PM

How would this make them appear in a better light? No-one's thinking, "wow, what a great person, she likes muscular looking men with a healthy amount of body fat" They could be lying, there's just no reason to believe they are. Without reason, we shouldn't just make stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:21 PM
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<Uh, yeah, sure. I have something close to that physique and an "overweight" BMI. Which picture? There's no way the one on the right has an overweight BMI. Both picture looks like they have the same amount of muscle. The right has just lost a lot of fat. Edit: tbh, he's not as skinny as I first though in the right picture. Think his chest threw me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:59 PM
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I would certainly not describe the picture on the right as "jacked". I'd say jacked implies a bit more bulk. I've never seen women show much interest in guys that skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:35 PM
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Right, and most women are dating a bloke without visible abs (watch what they do?). It's not as if there's a shortage of skinny men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:34 PM
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Seen this pic a lot and never realised it was Olly murs. Looks more athletic in the left. On the right, he looks like a fighter stepping onto the scales.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:29 PM
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I doubt that. Without a shirt you can see muscle. With one one, he'd look like a scrawny crack head.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:27 PM
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I've heard a lot of women say they find a man more attractive with a bit of fat, some people just assume they're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:26 PM
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22% is within the first five years. Scroll down and you'll see the actual figure is much higher. For a small number to be pulling the overall number up to 50%, each divorcee would have to get divorced three times on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:21 PM
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What Disney girl has ever gone for a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:16 PM
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I think it's about 42%. Significantly below half, but way more than a fifth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:12 PM
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What's your argument, that it happens? I think we all agree on that. How common are you saying it is? More common than we think? Surely some people are overestimating, and some of us have guessed bang on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:11 PM

But surely you can just start pushing them if you get tired. Strategic, trained ten year olds could probably pull you to the ground if they worked together, but random ones, just charging aimlessly...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:48 PM

Maybe I'm overestimating the average man's fitness
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:06 PM

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/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:03 PM

They pose a threat though. If the lion slows down, or goes for one, the rest will bite chunks out his back end. What are we going to do if a gorilla faces away from us? Punches aren't going to do anything. He'll just slap our heads off out shoulders as soon as one of us gets close.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:01 PM

Immediately, if the first date does well. I don't get this culture of just dating casually for months before becoming official. In the meantime time, both dating other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:58 PM

You just need one to distract it, on to Steve Irwin it's mouth shut, then another three or four to keep switching with the mouth guy until it gets tired. Then just hold it under for however long it takes. I'll say seven, if the water is shallow enough for them to stand. If not, fifteen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:56 PM

How do you think that would work? I'm pretty confident that I could beat 100 ten year olds in a fight, and the man Vs gorilla seems like a similar size difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:51 PM
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I think it's pretty natural to worry about everything that can go wrong with your children. Whether it's getting run over, or being abducted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:49 PM
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Are these problems with premature boys, or do you mean you just worried about problems they could potentially experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:45 PM
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I think because it's harder for women to have an orgasm, so there's the noticeable skill difference between men that can and cannot provide them. Almost any woman can provide a man with one by lying down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:40 PM
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They can both be true. Most men don't want them, and in the case of the ones that do, they'd rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:32 AM
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Yes. According to those religions. Not being a Priest/Iman/Rabbi does not make you not human any more than not being a nun makes someone not a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:55 PM
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Well they're not objects. They're people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:42 PM
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Some of the positions are male only. None of the religions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:12 PM
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Did they have to, or was it a choice the organisation made for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:42 PM
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None of them are male only though. Edit: Although you do have monasteries and the clergy in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:38 PM
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Freemasons? Pretty sure they're male only.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:02 PM
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I think the reason is that it's just not seen as trendy at the moment to have a lot of children. Even withing long term relationships, birth rates are lower. Most people see career and travel as a more admirable achievement than children. In Japan, and a lot of Asia, your worth as a human is defined by your income and career success. I say this as someone with a Chinese half of my family. Children hinder both of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:06 PM
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I think this a bias from when you only see these conversations happening on Reddit. People are generally only bringing up disfunctional relationships on here. In everyday life,people generally don't comment on them unless it's a ridiculous one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:08 PM
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We you're still dating her, so the statement about a man dating a woman that works in McDonalds seems correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:05 PM
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Yup that would be a crazy thing for me to say if I'd said it. Would be a crazy thing for you to say if you'd said it. Lucky neither of us did though isn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:52 PM
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"Stop virtue signaling to men that will never have a chance that they somehow have any amount of control over the situation. Just be blackpilled. Stop telling the 5’4 ugly guy that if he only gets a good job and is a cool person to be around that he has a chance." Didn't say any of that. I've explained my point so if you want to respond to that, feel free. I'm not engaging with anything you make up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:40 PM
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That's completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed. The point is, they are both things that we know employers are looking for, so The fact that it is not explicitly stated in every job description is not dishonest of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:20 PM
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No it's not. Being attracted to your partner is not something outrageous. It's the equivalent to turning up on time and not stealing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:06 PM
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Right. Like or doesn't matter that you have a degree of you show up drunk and late. Not gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:50 PM
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That's not gaslighting though. That's just giving some information. If a job is advertised as saying they want tomeone with a degree, are they gaslighting? They don't mention that you also have to show up sober and on time, they just expect everyone to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:41 PM
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Tinder and cold approaching are not the only options. Fifty years ago, hitting on strangers was not the main way of meeting a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:13 PM
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Because if any other woman said it, people would assume she was lying for his sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:12 PM
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They're different organs, but in any case, it's ridiculous to claim a prosthetic is a body part.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:30 PM
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So is the issue now settled?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:54 PM
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Picking arse over tits is not the same as not caring about tits. It doesn't matter how they look, they're fake. A strap on may feel amazing, but wearing one is not the same as having a huge dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:53 PM
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I think the issue is that women, on average, prefer a penis only slightly above average. This can be true, and will lead to women being disappointed that a man is too small being far more common than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:17 PM
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Men don't give a shit about tits?? I've never heard that opinion before. Fake tits are like a strap on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:15 PM
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That's not what the post is about though. It's about institutions lying to men to try to reduce our dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:59 AM
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That's why I hate tipping. I don't want the UK to end up with a system like that. If I was in the US, I'd try to avoid those places. I would tip if I was in one of them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:57 AM
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I don't check how much the staff get paid before I go to places. I'm on the UK, so I know they're all getting at least minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:20 PM
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Can we have some specifics on "society" telling us this though? Are there popular movies which suggest women don't care about attraction? Popular songs?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:36 PM
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That's not RP though. Those are just facts. Except the third one, which is a weird thing to make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:34 PM
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You did not fail because you were caring. That's another comforting lie. What your second paragraph describes is some basic confidence.society is not telling young men not to do any of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:11 PM
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What specific advice caused you to fail? What specific advice from TRP caused you to succeed? Because what I hear from people that claim to have been set up by society, is abnormally bad advice. These people either grew up in an unfortunate bubble, or decided to gravitate towards to worst possible advisers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:50 PM
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I think TRP succeeds by offering exactly what it claims to oppose. A comforting lie. "You failure is not your fault, society had lied to you. You've been deliberately and systematically set up for failure since childhood". It's always easier to blame others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:24 PM
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There's nothing more natural than doing illogical things in the pursuit of sex. What do you mean by "chase" though? Women don't just come to you because you look interested in them. It takes some effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:31 AM
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"not tipping isn’t going to make the employers pay their servers more." It will in the long term. Employers at the moment get all the benefits of well paid staff without having to pay their staff well. If their only income came from the employer, there would be a minimum they'd be willing to work for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:38 PM

Yeah I suppose Americans pronounce their Rs a bit more clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:01 AM

Do they sound different when Americans say them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:49 AM
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20% isn't super rare, but it's certainly not the norm. Very few men have anywhere near enough money that a woman is going to feel obligated to have unwanted sex just to maintain access to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:21 PM
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Sexless relationships certainly happen, but I've not seen any evidence that they're common. How's it not feeling obligated when you do something for a paycheck? She could also leave a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:46 PM
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"Which is if we look at current situation even in being in relationships rarely brings sex." I don't think it's rare to be having sex in a relationship. "Or even might the worst she might think in order the keep the man she have the force herself to give in." That wouldn't be any worse than with a hooker though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:28 PM
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Seems unlikely that there are so few good men, that she chose the best out of 51, and he was still no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:24 PM
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The relationship may not work, but you'll have probably had sex quite a bit by the time you break up. Even if you're having sex once a week, that's going to cost a fortune if you want half decent looking prostitutes. A partner might be less skilled, But I'd say the satisfaction of knowing she actually wants to sleep with you makes it more enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:28 PM
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Why not just date a woman that's more traditional, if that's what you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:00 PM
2

"Paying for a relationship is high risk and generally low reward action." What's the high risk? Even if you consider sex to be the reward, your return on investment will be much higher with a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:00 PM
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"Paying for a relationship is high risk and generally low reward action." What's the high risk? Even if you consider sex to be the reward, your return on investment will be much higher with a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:00 PM
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It's about being clear to your partner that you're not cheating on them. If you accept that they can hang out one on one with a member of the opposite sex, even drinking with them, you can never really catch someone cheating without actually catching them in the act. That obviously Would make an affair very easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:51 AM
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For those who say the OF prostitute is the victim. There aren't really OF pimps or human trafficking. Most women are doing this as an immoral shortcut in life because they heard debasing society can be very profitable, and it feeds their narcissism So they are not victims because they have complete free choice in the matter? I agree, but that goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:52 PM

No. There's really no reason you have to be financially stable to date. It's not that expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:50 PM
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Most all women will pick the intense penetration, still knowing they might not come. Would they? I generally hear more complaints about that than I hear anyone expressing deaire for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:00 PM
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All Women Act Like What? You've not said what you're asking for exceptions of?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:53 PM
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Yes. Some people disagree with me. You should ask them for their reasons, rather than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:19 AM
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Even vague numbers would be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:00 PM
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Yes. I understand that it's difficult to quantify happiness, but just becaise something's difficult, doesn't justify pulling numbers out of thin air. Thanks for confirming that those numbers, which the majority of the post is based on, are from your imagination though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:36 PM
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Can you provide some sort of source for those statistics? I can make up statistics about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:57 PM
1

No. Most car crashes are unwanted. That's not a compelling reason that you shouldn't be held responsible for any damage caused if you are responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:35 PM
2

I would LOVE tp see an example of someone getting a reduced sentance because they like chubby women!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:02 PM
3

Really depends where she carries it. Two women could have the same bmi, but one curvy and the other spherical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:38 PM
4

What can I buy woth this social credit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:35 PM
1

What are the odds that someone becomes a drug addict as an adult?? I assumed ot was like smokong, where of you don't start as a teenager, you almost certainly won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:35 PM
1

Pretty fair. Bad drivers, as a group, are probably one of the biggest killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:33 PM
0

No. The most common argument is that when you choose to have a child, you becime responsible for that child. I'm yet to hear a compelling refutation to that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:30 PM
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It's both. Marriage brings stability to both people, but you choose the person based on love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:04 PM
1

But no-one suggested those two things were the same. Why are you mentioning it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:07 PM
0

No. Of course i wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 05:02 PM
-1

I would call it rape if a woman was told to have sex with a man or lose her career.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:41 PM
5

All OBGYN have training in it. Exception of those who learn in religious colleges So surely they would not be forced to provide abortions then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:11 AM
-2

Being legally prevented from doing your job is a form of force. I'm pretty sure you would agree if it was someone doing something you agreed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:08 AM
1

It never changes. If someone robs me. I'll always be a victim of a robbery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:05 AM
0

many women are choosing abstinence in response to this. Brilliant. Sex leads to pregnancy. Pregnancy leads to babies/children. Would be great if everyone acted with that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:55 PM
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Absolutely, and she gets the final choices on what happens with her own body. Women know this. Men know this. Right, but she shouldn't. She chose to get pregnant, so no-one else should suffer, especially die, for that decision. Banning abortion shouldn't contraversial, because as we've just agreed, she could just choose to never require one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:49 PM
1

He doesn’t HAVE to participate in making the baby. Neither does she. Men know that sex makes babies. So do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:08 PM
1

I think it’s because the pro choice position is that you’re preventing a person from existing (person typically being defined as a being with consciousness), so no harm is being done to a person. This is what the argument boils down to really. No-one would have an issue if it was preventing a person. The issues arise of we believe it to be fully, or even partially, human.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:07 PM
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Look at the debate when ever it’s raised here Yes, i would agree that here it is about controllong women. I hward it described as "allpwong women to sleep arpund woth no concequences". I just don't think that's the motivation in general society. When no fault divorce was instituted, women’s suicide dropped. Any proven connection? I'm sure a lot of things happened that year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:00 PM
1

What's that got to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:37 PM
2

Is victimhood a feeling? I'm pretty sure you're a victim if you've been on the recieving end of a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:19 PM
4

Fair enough. You can probably fond any opinion if you look hard enough, but it's certainly nowhere near as common as being against aboution, which it would be seeing as that would be way more controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:17 PM
1

Any reason? It's that that is the main poimt that he's making, and you've not addressed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:14 PM
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I've only seen people trying to control birth control that takes effect after conception, unless due to religious grounds. Notnseen anyone suggest all contraception be banned legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:13 PM
2

I've only seen people trying to control birth control that takes effect after conception, unless due to religious grounds. Notnseen anyone suggest all contraception be banned legally. No fault divorce bans would go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:13 PM
3

democrats are building a campaign centered around women being able to fuck without consequences. Oh, so I was mistaken when I said it wasn't about trying to control women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:11 PM
2

But do you disagree woth the point that he's making? That if she can kill it, he can abandon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:04 PM
5

Are there any other aspects of a woman's body they are trying to control? If it's about controlling women, there will be plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:59 PM
5

Bad analogy because this was done to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:42 PM
5

Not if they are doing more of the jobs at home than the working parent. Something being a job doesn't automatically make it more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:40 PM
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Either can be harder, depending on the situation. If you have several children, all of which add to the chores, being home full time will be hard. Althoigh there are examples of the SAHP not wanting to switch and go back to work, there are also plenty of parents who do choose to go back to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:32 PM
5

Surely depends what the other person's job is. I've had jobs which barely involved any work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:29 PM
3

She asked the podcast host, "Don't you want to wait for that girl (who is now ready to settle down)? Or do you want to be the douchebag that girls will hook up with on their way to find the nice guy?" Well by my understanding of time, the nice guy finished last in this story. Not that this is the typical story.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 05:41 PM
1

Good. So the fact that someone will suffer in the future is not a reason to kill them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:00 PM
1

So killing anyone is fine by you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:42 PM
2

I wouldn't calk it jealousy. More just upset about being rejecfed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:43 PM
2

Ok, but most can't. Meaning women with large vaginas will never face the same lack of options that men with small penises do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:40 PM
1

Well it is, becuase the person will not necessarily suffer if not killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:39 PM
1

So should infanticide be legal, seeing as This is no different. Seeing as they're the same, either both shoupd be legal, or neither shoupd be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:47 PM
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The problem is, most men are not in anynposition to reject women based on vagina size, whereas women can easily reject men for having small penises. For this reason, the sgaming cannot just be reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:06 PM
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People have different life experiences, it's not always a conspiricy. People in happu relationships tend to hang out with other pwoplw in relationships, giving the impression that that is attainable for everyone. Miserable single people hang out together too, givin the impression that dating is impossible. No-one's deliberately trying to decieve each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:05 PM
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How's he defining a ritual?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:09 AM
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No. If we're counting anything done for convenience as a sacrifice, onlone shopping would be a religious ritual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:08 AM
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Ok but i'm talkong about the ones that do require strength. Of course there are jobs that don't require lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:05 AM
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Ok but no-one's going to pay someone to do the same job in a longer amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 06:04 AM
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Less physical strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 05:13 PM
4

As long as you're not asking/sending nudes, then it's OK. If nudes are cheating, then porn is cheating. If porn is not cheating, then porn made by a friend is not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:17 PM
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That female sex workers make more than male sex workers? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:10 PM
0

Last time I checked women could just as easily do manual labour. Check again then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:10 PM
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And men have the advantage that we are able to do manual labour, which is an actuap advantage that most of us can use.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:30 PM
0

It's a simple question. What contradiction, and what evidence. Glad you entertain yourself though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:41 PM
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Yes, I am out her manifesting the gestalt consciousness of the entire human male population. Problem? Any time someone actually gets questioned on their ridiculous claim, they either stop responding, or deflect with one of these poor attempts at humour. I'm glad you see how silly the claim was now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:47 PM
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Out here livin it right now lmao You're out here living most men witnessing a certain contradiction? The English doesn't even make sense. Are you almost all men? Or are you, as I strongly suspect, one man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:39 PM
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Where is the evidence that nearly every man has witnessed this contradiction? What, specifically, is the contradiction that you're claiming almost every man has witnessed? Seems like a strong example of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:19 PM
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Do you have any proof that 98-99% of women aren't like that, or not? Wouldn't a statement about a group require proof, rather than making a random claim and expecting it to be disproven?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:34 PM
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It's a nice idea in theory. The problem is, what everyone has personally seen is such a small amount of behaviour, that they can't really generalise a sex based on it. Like i've never actually witness the courtship proccess of another person. When people say it, it's almost always followed by an example that they did not watch anyone do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:32 PM
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I think an individual should sort for their own physical weaknesses and try to compensate. Doesn't really work though. The more weaknesses you have, the more strengths your partner would need. Who said anything about 5 women? Monogamy benefits women. So only 20% of men and women would reproduce? What's the incentive for the bottom 80% of women to agree to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 07:45 PM
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You can make up stories of why people get choose their partnerz, but seeing as the only evidence is in your head, we can assume none of that is true. You didn't say women are only into the top 20%. You said women are already onpy reproducong woth the top 20%. If you want to retract that, or rephrase what you actually meant, then ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:16 PM
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Well they clearly are attracted to men not in the top 20%, otherwise why would they be with them? It's not for their money. Both of which i never claimed. Comprehension problems much? Well you did, when you claimed women were already only reproducing with the top 20%. "Chad's bastard" would mean biological dad is Chad. Try to keep up with your own statements, you seem to be confusing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 05:01 PM
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Reproducing with a woman who failed to secure commitment from chad. Yes. Reproducing with the woman that they're with. That's what reproducing means. A significant number is unknowingly raising chad's bastard The number is not high enoigh to bring reproducing men down anywhere near 20%. Also there's no evidence the biological fathers are all chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:53 PM
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Well they're not, becaise more than 20% of men are reproducing. The top 20%, financially, are reproducing the least out of anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:40 PM
0

Where was "state mandated" mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:39 PM
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Healthy is a good trait to select fro, but there's no benifit to breeding a taller population every generation. The top 20% financially don't necessarily have the resources to support 5 women and their children each, which is what they'd need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:39 PM
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Lol what? It's a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:35 PM
5

Of the older men that are set on only dating younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:41 PM
1

Yes, i suppose there will be a higher old man/young woman ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:59 PM
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Yes, but there will be less young men with whom you have to compete in order to date these young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 04:56 PM
1

I'd believe her. Why would I refuse to believe her unless he confessed?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 03:53 PM
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I'm not splitting hairs here. There's a significant difference between "non issue" and "plenty of issues". I don't even know what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:10 PM
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You said "non issue". It's not something I made up. Of there was some sex trafficking, it wasn't, and isn't, a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:33 AM
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But you said for centuries. Do you believe there were no issues for centuries?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:18 AM
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What do you mean by "non issue"? Was there no exploitation or disease spread during those centuries?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:14 AM
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It's the oldest profession for a reason. It's everywhere, in every culture, in every century. That's not a moral argument. Murder, theft, rape, andkidnapping are old and exist everywhere. That doesn't make them moral. Computer programmer is a relitively new proffession, that doesn't make ot immoral. There's also the illusion that legalisong it, will mean there is no longer a black market, which is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:59 AM

That's not what men are saying at all It gets said on here. If you don't believe that, there's no argument to be had here. I assumed your comment was relevant to the cpost. What was the settling you were talkong about if not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:00 PM
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You're making this seem way more black and white than the reality. Men rating younger women as hotter based on photos does not mean attraction to any older woman is nonexistant. So many people misunderstand these stidies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:57 PM
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I think the go bag is incase you have to leave in an emergency. Although emational abuse is bad, I can't imagine it constituting such an emergency that you don't have time to pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:54 PM
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No one was talking about only "serial killers", you're completely straw manning the argument Title of the post. a lot more women would fuck literal serial killers than a random shy nice guy Comment i was responding to. "No-one" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:07 AM

Why do we need a fully developed frontal lobe to consent to a relationship? It doesn't suddenly develop on your 25th birthday. It's developed enough from 18
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:24 AM

I'm purely speculating. Straight men are attracted to the femaly body, but intimidated by female genitalia as it seems diffocult to pleasure. A chick with a dick has the mostly feminine body, whilst most men would know exactly how to bring it to orgasm. This, i believe, is the appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:53 PM
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These are them men that are most likely to marry younger, to younger women, and most likely to reproduce. Sounds like this is an advert for being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:51 PM
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"Women love serial killers. We can see this because some say they do, and most say they don't. Let's just assume all the ones that say they don't are lying and settling for their non murdurer partners".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:51 PM
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2 girls one cup went pretty viral. I wouldn't assume it reflects the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:03 PM
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Couldn't tell you, just enough to notice it Well enough women have eaten shit out of a cup for most of us to have noticed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:37 PM
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"Firstly, It's just so inprecise that it's oretty worthless. Somewhere between pretty rare, and over a third." Referring to your original "statistic", not paternity fraud. Pretty sure you already knew that and are being deliberately illiterate. Funny, someone only saw the first table. Shows bias here doesn't it? Should I send screenshots to inbox to make you read better? Nope. Looked at all three tables. They showed overall rates to be well below 40%. When trying to avoid bias, you look at overa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:36 PM
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Or maybe it's your selection bias when you push the idea that it's worthless and rare. I didn't say it was worthless and rare. I'm not interessted in opinion based descriptions, i'm interrested in numbers. You're confirming what I said though. No-where in any of those charts suggests anywhere near 40% paternity fraud. I was just trying to sweeten the deal bcz truth is hard for you to bear. Pretty hilarious statement from the guy that can't handle the genuine data so makes up numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:19 PM
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Firstly, It's just so inprecise that it's oretty worthless. Somewhere between pretty rare, and over a third. Secondly, it's completely untrue. No statistic has ever suggested that it is anywhere near 40%. Some have shown that at a certain clinic, the people tested came back with 40% paternity fraud. But that is very dofferent, and reliant of selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:00 PM
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3-40% isn't stats. That's just a wild guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:52 PM
0

A lot of women settle Bring out old faithful when evidence contradicts what i want it to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:51 PM
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Those women are attractive because they’re pretty, There are pretty non-criminals to gush over if the criminalitu was not a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:49 PM
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I have to hard disagree. The amount of women that romanticize them is insane This is always the argument, so what is the amount? Even roughly? I believe it's a small percentage, but some people read a few carefully selected tweets and conclude that 50%+ what to sleep with murdurers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:37 PM

I assume because it's a stressful time for both of them. It's probably the time that most couple will argue more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 06:53 PM
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"Anything" is open to a lot of interpertation, but i'd say leaving is pretty acceptable. I don't really know what else you mean though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 06:48 PM
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A robot is not a being though. Otherwise i'd be a slave owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:19 PM
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It's another another being. Your issue was that sex should be between two humans. It's either a human, therefore fine, or not, therefore masturbation. Clearly it's the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 06:36 AM

The first two are illegal, and the fourth are illegal. A simple google search...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:54 PM
1

You tell me. You keep saying he needs to make a lot of money to still be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:24 PM
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Right. Because having money is differrent for men and women. Having kids is a negayive for both and can be offset with positives. What those positives are is the difference. What you're saying is no different to saying, "being short, ugly, or having a small dick doesn't matter becaise women will overlook it if you're rich enough". They will, but the fact they need to shows that it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:51 PM
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Being nice isn't sipposed to bring benefits. It's done for the sake of it, otherwise it's not niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:04 PM

1: yes, we can deduce that that women can't do the job of a mother and father as well as a mother and father can. 2: we can agree that the precence of the father if extremely important. He can still be present after divorce though, so although not ideal, divorce doesn't cause the issue of fatherlessness. 3: no. There is npthing to suggest that a man's precence can never be a net negative. That's not what the results show.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:56 PM
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That's true with pretty much any negative trait. Almost anything can be offset with enough positives. Same with women with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:12 AM
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Well your own example suggests that it negatively impacts men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:26 PM

Before you tell me no one denies this, literally every last time it gets brought up people rush to remind you how not only are women “just as horny” but many even suggest they are “way hornier.” This isn't true, and i pointed the fact out the last couple of times you made this post. Every time, you say, "well every other time, people are arguing". They're not! Ws're supposed to be debating, not just sucking each other off in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:36 PM

Seems like a classic example of the red car theory once you start believing pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:46 PM

Because it's a pretty fundamental belief of it. Surely you're aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 06:43 PM
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This came from somewhere else on reddit.. I hope before that, it came from somewhere other than reddit. Can we tell whether more intelligent people find dati g harder, or just tend to want to less due to more demanding careers/lifestyles? I've never done an IQ test, but am the least accademic of my siblings, and the only one married or with children. That trend seems to be consistent woth my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:16 PM
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But TRP isn't about building a better world, it's the opposite. "Enjoy the decline" is the motto. Nothing about preventing or reversing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:59 AM
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There are similarities, but the difference is that it's based on how many children you have and their age. Also, it can't really have replaced alimony when alimony still exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:09 PM
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If he makes more, somehow he has to pay more, because apparently it costs more for a wealthy child to be raised than middle class kid That's always been how it works. Rich people spend more on their children than poor people. That's not a new invention, or exclusive to divorced people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:54 PM
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Yoi don't care about enabling more fasion bloggers or photographers??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:49 PM
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Lol the percentage gets higher every time i see it quoted! Never seen a source that says it's even as high as 70%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:48 PM
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Was he patrolling the street asking randomly though, or was he asking people he had reason to believe would be interrested?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 10:17 AM
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I think people generally want paternity tests to avoid raising a child that's not theirs. Not to avoid being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:30 PM
2

Well that article says it's less than 1 in 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 07:07 PM
1

Ok. But even if you're married with children, she can still have sex with another man without getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:52 PM
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That doesn't prove anything. All your kids can be biologically yours, that doesn't mean your wife has never cheated on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 06:40 PM
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Well she can't prove she's not a cheating piece of shit, can she? That's why trust is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:28 PM
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Well i suppose this story also teaches us that if you have love, you don't need a house or a job either. Of course you don't need marriage if you have no money or assets.if they break up, they each just keep the clothes they're wearing. Also, I don't wear a ring and neither does my wife. Lack of a ring doesn't mean someone's not married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:14 PM
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They should definitely be shamed for it. Fatherhood is a demanding role. You can't be pushing 70 and still raising a teenager as well as a normal aged parent. Now you can say birth defects increase with age, but men have a trick up their sleeve, the "fittest" sperm impregnate the woman so even if sperm quality is lower in general, you are always getting the best sperm, natural selection is a wonderful thing. That doesn't change the fact that defects become more likely. The fittest sperm are stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:07 PM
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How would checkong his phone confirm that he's not abusing the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:54 PM
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I hope not, now that you've added in, "thought about cheating".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:30 PM

It says "warmer feelings towards the candidate". Not a change in their politocal opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:31 PM

That's not really cucking. The whole idea of cuckolding is that she get's pregnant by someone else. Can't happen with another woman. But no, i wouldn't be ok with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:25 PM

Obviously no-one's reading all of that, especially when you onvlude all of the links, but there's nothing unreasonable about wanting some right wing, and some left wing traits. Very few people fit into one catagory completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:22 PM

Who's telling men to wait until women are older? The advice is generally date withing your age range. Not that all men should be aiming for old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:48 PM
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It's not the only reason a woman would ghost after sex, but when a man says something like, "I've had loads of sex, and about 80% of women ghosted after the first time", there's a pattern there that suggests she didn't enjoy it. If it was understood by both to be a ONS, i wouldn't call that ghosting though. If a woman is constantly getting ghosted by men after their first date, it's safe to say the men are not having a great time with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:53 AM
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Wouldn't it be lovely it that were true. No wives or children would ever be abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 06:31 PM

And do you agree that the police should be allowed to say that? Because if not, it's a stupid thing to bring up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:10 PM

I explained that in my first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:08 PM

The difference is that one is being performed on someone dying and suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:04 PM

That's not a threat to your life. That's an inconvenience. A major one, but still not a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:59 PM

If the medication causes it's death, then it has killed the foetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:52 PM

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:51 PM

I think most people would agree if it can be shown that the pregnancy is, as you say, a direct threat to your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:51 PM

You seem to be changing the rules as you go along to justify something. Not really surprising. Crime rates would drop if we killed poor people. Childhood trauma would drop if we killed abused children. You don't kill a sentient person just to improve productivity. We'd cull the disabled by that logic. By the way, this is not a utilitarian stance. It's not utilitarian if you ignore the harm done to the foetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:42 PM

Well it's sentient well before birth. Would you oppose abortion when it becomes sentient?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:25 PM

How are you determining value?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:18 PM

No. You can't freeze a person indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:17 PM

But they do kill the foetus. That's part of the procedure, they kill it before taking it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:55 PM

Not being allowed to kill someone is not the same as being obligated to save someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:32 PM
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Becauss most men aren't capable of endless casual sex. This is a fact agreed upon regardless of pill affiliation. If someone asks for unachievable advice, people sometimes try to redirect them to somethinf more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 04:07 PM
6

Well clearly not, because paternity testing is pretty rare, whereas cheating is not. If every man that had cheated on his wife got one, they'd have been completely normalised.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:06 AM
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He cheats so he knows that others are capable of cheating. Like I already explaine, he knows either way that others are capable of cheating. There's not a singke person in the world that is not aware that cheating exists. I'm not a burgular. I still remember to lock my doors because I still know it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:44 AM
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But men who trust their wives are not cheaters Like I said though, that's not true. There's no logical reason that a man cheating on his wife makes him assume she's cheating on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:40 AM
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Loads of people that cheat are still shocked that their partners cheat. People that cheat often do so because thwy feel they're better than their partner. People that don't cheat are still aware that cheating exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:31 AM
3

Yes. Better late than never.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:42 PM
1

If you agree to a rule, early on, that impacts your mental health, that's your own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:45 PM

Correct. Older men can betabuxx more effectively. As we all know, that's not the same as attracting young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:41 PM
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Using the excuse that "its a boundry i have set" is just a lighter way of saying "i am controlling you deal with it" You can rephrase it, bit it's reasonable to set boundries. Cheating is just whatever breaks the specific boundries in the relationship. It's perfectly fine to watch porn as long as you don't let it impact you financially by engaging with random sellers. How can the same action be vheating or not, depending on whether money is involved? It's as ridiculous as the idea that wanking o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:33 PM

But I’m talking about 18 too - it’s the limit but by being the limit, it’s still understood as a red flag for most. The proof that this is not true, is that in countries where tje age of cpnsent os lower, such as the UK, ot is still umcommon for older men to date/marry 18yos.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:13 PM

But like I asked, specifically, which law? If all men wanted to do something, we wouldn't shame people for doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:09 PM
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How many rich, famous men are marrying, or even dating, 18 year olds? Even Leonardo DiCaprio dates women in their early 20's generally, and that's considered unusually young. Also, what legal intervention is stopping this happening now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:12 AM
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Yes. If he decides to blirt it oir right before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 03:34 PM
4

Getting caught lying about tour sexual conquests is embarassing as a teenager. An adult's reputation is finished if he get's caught. I think women not being attracted to adult virgins is a very small part of their issue. The main problem is that they are virgins because women aren't attracted to them, so they continue being virgins because women aren't attractes to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:59 PM
2

I think there is still the idea that you're less of a man if you don't have any.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:04 AM
6

Men, on average, want slightly more children. But i don't think most men want a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 10:17 PM
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The situation should never come up, because no-one should ever marry someone withoit discussing children beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 04:52 PM
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No we don’t. I’ve filed three times. Instantly going from average trwnds to a personal anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 02:54 PM
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You really can't think of any rwasons tp npt have kids?? The inconvenoence? The stress? The money? The career setback? I have three but can still see why you wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:35 AM
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It's not ambiguous at all. No one openly says "i fired her for refusing to blow me".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:42 AM
11

Most contracts say something loke, "and other tasks nececcary to the business needs". Not just and random task. Otherwise every manager would just use company employees as home cleaners/personal chefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 06:08 AM
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Well in our first example, it's not a free choice, because surely he is going to have to make up a lie to fire her. He's not going to openly state he fired her for not sucking his dick. It's the equivalent of a woman tellong a man, "give me money or i'll tell everyone you raped me". Not really a free choice there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 05:58 AM
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The problem is, you can't observe what anyone prefers, which is a handy part of these posts. Any observation that contradicts these weird pill statements is brushed of with, "she's settling for him". The escape hatch for any pill argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:42 PM
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Bad boys, yes. Most women have shown very little interest in gangsters and abusers though. The problem is this false dichotomy, where people on reddit think that every man is either an absolute wimp, or a serial killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 05:40 PM
0

You can't opt out of society You're part of it as long as you live in it. You can contribute more or less, but you're still involved. I think the suggestion is that we actually improve society. I don't think he suggested you just continue being exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:07 PM
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The reverse of this is when a woman decides she can tell a man is not fine, so keeps pressing him on it until he finally becomes in a bad mood. That's horrendously irritating, so of I ask someone how they are, i'm accepting the first answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:07 PM

Why would a relogious wife be idea if you're not religious yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:05 PM

It's insane the two men would have different opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:02 PM
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Granted, there are 1.2 -2 million onlyfan accounts and only 560 active NBA players. So what was the point in comparing the two? McDonalys workerd probably earn more than premier league footballers. There have always been rich sex workera. As you've said in your post, it's a minority. Not enough to affect the dating/marriage market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:18 PM

Top right and bottom left often go hand in hand, which seems ideal. If i had to choose, i suppose bottom left.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:13 PM
1

I don't know how much more you want me to talk about the principles. I've said, there are boundries when it comes to the sex your partner is attractes to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:45 PM
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Well forstly, to set boundries and rules in my heterosexual relationship, I don't have to consider gay or bisexual people. But if I was gay, i'd be suspicious of any relationship my partner had with another gay man that became too close. My wife can have male friends, but she's not going for a sleepovee with him like she could with a female friend. If she started sleeping with the female friend, that would be cheating. I'm not concerned about that because it's very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:37 PM
1

It's based on the idea that people cheat with people they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:27 PM
2

You have to finish the month woth a rolling contract lease. There's no way you're getting divorced in less than a month. Unemplpyment is nothing to do with the contract. That comes from the government. Most contracts have terms that are enforceable or have consequences for breaking them. Except for marriage contracts. Because you're not breakong the terms of the marriage contract when you get divorced. There is a difference between first and second marriage. There's no legal difference, but i've…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:26 PM
2

Because who they are attracted to is different, so who is a threat to the relationship is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:59 PM
3

It's like a rental, or employment contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:59 PM
3

Of coirse theu do, but the rules on their relationships will be different to those in heterosexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:14 PM
0

But when it's a man liking a woman's Instagram post at the beach, or even a workout pic. Then, it becomes a huge issue. I don't think the sexes is the main difference here. The difference is how deliberately sexual the picture is. A man liking a post where a woman talks about fitness, where she lifts weights or jogs in joggers (sweatpants i think?) And a hoodie would be no issue in most cases. Compared to a gym selfie where she's showing off her bum in leggings or super short shorts. Same woth b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:10 PM
2

It's an agreement, requiring both people's consent. That doesn't make it meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:00 PM
1

How do abortions fuck the government's agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:12 PM
3

4 years after the first delivery 29% of women struggle with urinary incontinence 29%? I assumed it was somethong almost all mpthers struggled with to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:11 PM
0

Well there's never no risk to the mother. Do you mean additional health risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:09 PM
0

What aboit when it's not fully dependant on her? As in after the poin in which it could be born and survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:03 PM
2

Well if we valie second marriages as equal, we're acknowledging that marriage is meaningless really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:57 PM
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Women file 80 percent of the divorces and divorce rate is 50 percent. Women file under 70% of rhe divorces and the divorce rate for first marriages, which are the only ones that matter, are about 42%. These are still noteworthy statistics, so why tweak them to make them more dramatic? Just because someone has a legal right to do something, doesn't mean no-one can ever complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 06:41 AM
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No. Like how insuring your car doesn't increase your chances of crashing, marriage doesn't oncrease your chances of splitting up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 06:29 AM
1

Of course. Like how a legal contracy exists in case one person breaks the agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:38 AM
1

The concequence is the work they do at home. Like the concequence of a job is the work you do. Nothing's free.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:12 PM
1

This is called a false dichotomy, because they are not the only options. SAHP, for example, is another option, not the only pther option though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:57 PM
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Whether or not someone recieves a paycheck does not determine whether or not they are an adult. You're memtally a child if you spend 40 hours a week doing something pointless, when you can afford not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:13 PM
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It's not leeching of you're doing something more useful. There are more meaningful things in life than collecting a paycheck. Better to do those things if you can afford to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:34 PM

Scary stuff. I think rape is generally going to be more prevelant in these cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:24 PM
5

Most people if your backup plans are the ones listed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:17 PM
6

There's more to a family than just obtaining the maximum amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:15 PM
1

Isn't this the point in marriage? Legal insurance in these cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:14 PM

How did they not know? Surely you'd realose you kept passing out and, i assume, waking up with vaginal injuries, even mild ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:58 PM
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I pay a lot less for a used car. What's tge equivalent to the money saving? Do I give less effort to a woman that's settling? Spend less on dates? That doesn't work long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:56 PM
1

So nothing to do with putting in effort sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:49 PM
2

What's the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:33 PM
2

But the effoet being discussed is in a sexual context. Putting effort during sex does nothing to stop you meeting any other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:07 PM
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That doesn't make sense though. Even kf we accept that attractive men don't put in effort, an unattractive man not putting in effort would not become attractive, so there is no benifit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:32 PM
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I mean Ive seen women on this subreddit on similar threads say they absolutely desire their husband. And I dont think its fair to say theyre lying (they get nothing by lying on an anonymous forum). But is there any reason to assume they waited longer with their husbands than they did with other men? Not every relationship fits perfectly in the two catagories.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:50 PM
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Yes. I think that's the reason most men openly state about it. Few people are arguing that it is immoral for a woman to have sex more enthusiastically with attractive men, just that no-one wants to be the one they are less enthusiastic about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:44 PM
1

Hopefully my son's self esteem isn't tied to whether or no they've banged a hooker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:35 PM
1

It probably happens, but not often enough to incorporate it into your dating strategy. And never from a woman worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:37 PM
1

No. Where did this idea that yoi just get your fist time out of the way and then become siccessful even come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:34 PM
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The food, yes, but not being pampered generally. Like opening doors, and general pampering.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:05 PM
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I don't think most men would enjoy this type of treatmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:43 AM
1

Shouldn't a country have a healthy dating culture before we call it an anything paradise? These are the two countries we use as a warning of the worst case our countries could end up as.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:40 PM
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Whether or not it's as important. A man getting good at oral is more achievable than growing his penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:45 AM
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Kind of like saying, " if you hate marmalade, why don't you stop other people eating it?". They only hate the objectification when it's directed at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:43 AM
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I don't believe that women to tru to conceal their interest in a man. If they do, then yes, yoi just have to guess blindly. My point was really based on the assumptions made in the post, rather than my beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:41 AM
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I agree, but i don't think that is what was siggested on the post. Maybe i'm wrong 8n which case it's good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:54 AM
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Whats the phrase about books and judging them by the cover? I ferget but the gist was, you're supposed to fuckin' read it. Sounds great, but in reality, i'm not just going to read every book to see of it's any good. I have to make a judgement to see of it's worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:42 AM
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If she's not going to even pyt subtle signals out, any interraction will be very one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:56 PM
5

Most of human interaction is based on vague signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:59 PM
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If you're suggesting that this is bad advice because most men will never recieve these signals of attraction, why would approaching help? Approaching women that don't find you attractive will be a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:53 PM
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I wouldn't call it abuse, but if done deliberately, I'd call it an immoral form of deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:20 PM

Why would having a job prevent people being here? Until recently , I only came her while i was at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 06:49 PM
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I assume they're like evangelical preachers. Every one except the one I like is an evil heretic. Who that one is depends on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:42 PM

That's not really what it means. The women are wonderful effect is people making favourable assumptions about women. Not loving them for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:17 PM

No reason? You just picked her at random? Maybe. There are individual examples of women married to men that seemingly have nothing going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:15 PM

Straight men are the only group of people who don't deserve love for simply existing. No-one get's love just for existing except babies. It's so irritating how people keep quoting a fifteen year old Chris Rock joke as if it's some deep wisdon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:36 PM
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For cooking they will have a cook. The cook can come only once a week and have the food for the whole week. You can also order food. For cleaning there's a cleaning person, once a week is fine. And for child care, there's a nanny who provides the service. You're either taking the piss, or you're just pretty rich and inaware that not everyone is rich. There's no doubt that you've no idea how much a nanny costs. I would prefer a wife who wants to do threesomes with me and other women over one who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:09 PM

But even in your ficticnal story, you've not got any information from the guy, so you'ee not a good interrogator.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:10 PM
1

By merely being neurotic you can not be neurotypical. I don't think that's true. Neuroticism is a personality trait, rather than a neurological condition. The process of natural selection doesn't happen over night. Surely if we've had enough time for women to evolve not to find it attractive, we've had time for it to be bred out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:17 PM
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A neurotic can also be neurotipical. I assume that's not what you mean? Anything that's strongly genetic mist not be a universal disadvantage, otherwise it would have been bred out of existence by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:54 PM
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What? Are the kids going to eat his genetics?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:51 PM
2

We evolved to find people we would successfully breed with attractive. That's not just based on genetics. A man that's a skilled hunter, or a rich man is more likely to raise children onto adulthood than a man with good genetics but no ability to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:56 PM
2

Or he could just ask her out and get it over with. If he gets led on whilst not making any direct moves, that's his fault. Do not accept the dinner invitations, do not accept invitations to get drinks, do not accept gifts, do not ask for favors, etc... simply reject him so he can move on If you knew a woman was interrssted in you romantically, would you reject all sexual favours to spare her feelings? I don't think most men would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:39 AM
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Women have made it clear that men aren't entitled to female support, so men should make it clear as well. Have they? Have the majority of the care proffessionals quit? Have the majority of voulenteers quit? Or have women just said they're not dating you, just because you're lonely and horny? It's a common issue on this sub where people think you have to pick one ridiculous extreme or the other. Any reasonable person knows that whilst you're not entitled to a stranger servicing your every desire,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:26 PM
13

You can't really tell someone outright that you're not interrested, if they've not told you that they are interrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:22 PM
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Subtle signs of interest are usually met with sibtle signs of rejection or reciprocation. I doubt she will flirt back if she's not interested. When playing the subtle sign game, everyone needs to be good at reading them, which is never reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:15 PM

Yeah that wouldn't be an issue, if she didn't have a relationship with her ex. You'll lokely run into exes in passing in life. This suggests she'd make a good parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:38 PM
2

Always were. And yet Atheism is increasing, whilst Christianity is declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:23 AM
1

Well that explains what you're not saying. If you fancy telling me what you are saying, it would be less of a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:33 AM
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Sure some christians will lose their faith, but some non christians may gain the faith through conversion. So this is a poor argument But one of those things is currently happening a lot more than the other. Like I explained, Christians are not having many more kids than everyone else, so with the people leavong the faith, it is declining. If an ideology is declining, eventually, there is the risk it disappears. What the Bible says does nothing to stop what is actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:25 AM
1

Ok well i'm not guessing anymore so if you feel like telling me...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:46 PM
2

Are you suggesting that the entire west has converted to Islam?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:24 PM
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All of them before about 1950.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:26 PM
1

then provide an example of a group like this currently considered masculine I just did. our current (toxic) conception of masculinity no longer includes theologians and philosophers Who's conception? You're making a bit of a circular argument though. "It's mainly female because it's considered feminine. It's considered feminine because it's mainly female..."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:26 PM
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okay then you would be able to name something like christianity that is "masculine" Christianity. There's a long history of male priests, monks, missionaries, popes... but the fact is that theology/prayer/do-gooderism, etc are all things that are not considered masculine That's not a fact though is it. It's just your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:12 PM
1

Well if food's cheaper than it was when birth rates were higher, the price of food can't be the cause of the lower birth rates. Unless the food being too cheap is what makes people not want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:10 PM
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Mainly, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:39 PM
0

So it's that the girls are more receptive to it. So indoctrination is not the cause of the gender ratio. It's considered feminine becauss of the ratio. For most of history is's been more male dominated. Even now it's considered a patriacal religion. Of course this wil hugely vary between denominations thoigh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:27 PM
1

Food's cheaper than it's been for most of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:24 PM
1

Because they believe the core values of Christianity, which is helping others. Could it not be that this is responsible to Christianity's success, if it's the core value. However one of the main factors of Christianity is a woman being submissive to her father Wouldn't you expect this to appeal to men more than it appeals to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:17 PM
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I just don't think most people are educated in economic predictions to base their family size on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:13 PM
1

They don't indoctrinate their sons?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:11 PM
1

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2016/03/22/the-gender-gap-in-religion-around-the-world/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:26 PM
0

Yes. By quite a large number.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:56 PM
0

The reason why Christianity snd every other religion was ‘successful’ was due to the oppression of woman. Then why are most Christians women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:40 PM
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That's a big "if" though. Even children of Christians often don't retain the faith. And, at least in the UK, Christians barely have more children that average. Even most of the Catholics don't have many.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:31 PM
2

Is the national debt the caise of population decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:29 PM
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What woukd you define as "standing the test of time"? Surely the fact that Christianity being replaced in the west means it is not standing the test of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:42 PM

Paying your pension is just not a giod enough reason for anyone that's on the fence about kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:32 PM

If a man pointed to his grandfather's plights as a justification for why he is a shitty person, society would, justifiably, laugh at him for being ridiculous. How many mem complain about the draft, of workplace deaths? Barely any have ever been to war, and none have died in the workplacw.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:59 PM

He obviously isn't oblogated to. Part of loving in a society is helping people in need though. Obviously don't do it if you're expecting a huge reward for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:51 PM
1

Well there is no mention of the Christian God ever raping a child, so I don't know why you made that story up. Mohammed is respected by people who think he's a prophet, not for having sex with a child, but for being a prophet. The vast majority of child rapists are actially not respectes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:48 PM
2

So is his money from youtube and the courses he sells legitimate? Cos that's probably still a decent amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:43 PM
1

Fame is an extreme amount of money and status. I agree it's a huge help. It's like discussing whether or not height matters, whilst not countong very tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:42 PM
0

What means would be legitimate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:45 AM
4

Child rapists have been traditionally respected by society?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:44 AM
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It's not that he's successful. It's that he convinces other men they can emulate his success. Somehow people think his opinions are the reason he's successful with women, rather than the fact he's rich and famous. Every famous person gets sex. I read Frank Skinner's autobiography where he talks about banging fans (google him to see how alpha he is). Andrew Tate is very sexually successful having multiple girlfriends Aren't most of those women hookers? He doesn't seem to get the women most men he…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:03 AM
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Whu are we excluding celebrity examples from this? All that seems to do is remove the ability to provide contrary examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:34 AM
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Right. The whole point in being virtuous is that your behaviour is not exclisively decided by achieving maximum reward. I expect people I know not to steal from me, even though stealing fr9m me is profitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:39 PM
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Probably better to respond to fewer people but put some thought into the responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:35 PM
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It is a sign of sociopathy when a society outright dismisses minority cases. Who's dismissing minority cases? Plus society ignores homeless men We don't do a great job of helping them, but there are plenty of homeless charities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:16 AM
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You're not making an argument. You're just saying what you want to happen with no reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:14 AM

Isn't this what every generation of young people in history have said? That their parents and anyone else doesn't have anything of value to offer. If you believe in TRP though, you are still takong the advice of older people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:28 PM

No there isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:20 PM

It should never end a marriage. It should never even cause a minor argument, because the forst time it is brought up should not be when she is pregnant. There are some conversations you have early in a relationship. This would be like finding out your partner doesn't want kids after you're married. Or finding out they plan on raising them strictly hindu.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:01 PM
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The bluepillers generally mean that they are married. That's not what I think OP is aiming for.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:55 PM
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It’s no different than adopting a pet you can’t feed or take to the vet and relying on someone else to pay you to do it. We call those people shitty pet owners It's hugely different becaise i can adopt a pet by myself, whereas I can never bring a human into the world by myself. The pet equivalent would be adopting a pet jointly. Completely reasonable to split costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:53 PM
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Yeah makes sense. India has a massive rape problem. The behaviour of the men there has nothing to do woth the civilised west.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:03 AM
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It's a legitimate question when judging advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:53 AM
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Do you think it would be more intelligent to not consider likelihood when deciding polivy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:46 AM
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I wouldn't go that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:44 AM
1

Yes. He should stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:44 AM
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So why would you assume it's a good solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:35 AM
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How's that worked out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:33 AM
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Men's solution is to lie, which means disregarding what women say and want. Firstly, that's not what lying means. Lyong is saying things that are untrue. Secondly, I was asking a specifoc person why he valued certain advice which has brought no results.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:32 AM
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Have any of the men on this sibe given a solution? I assume not based on the forst sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:25 AM
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Providing an heir is simply having sex with your husband , thats not work . Lol. Re-read this statement when you've raised a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:19 AM
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Children, maybe. Even they would generally be expected to pull their weight after a few years. Women have had expectations around the house, and been expected to provide an heir. Dogs have never been lpved unconditionally until recently. Every dog would have had a job of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:00 AM
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Based on the discourse here It can be fun to argue on reddit, but don't actually love your life based on advice you get on a forum where most people openly admit to having no success with dating. Women in the US are not interested in nuisance Nuance? How does not wanting a man with no friends suggest you should become a sociopath?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:52 AM

I feel bad for Americans where it's illegal. Always talking about freedom except for that I guess Prostitution is not the only thong that is illegal in america.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:54 PM

Probably the second. I did very few presentations at school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:52 PM

No-one tells you how to become alpha for free. Becoming an alpha always requires purchasing a course.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:51 PM

Yeah, in the dating stage you should probably treat any partner as if they're temporary, and be open to an upgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:50 PM
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Yeah probably under certain circumstances. Under the right conditions, 99% of us would have complied with the nazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:47 PM
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Yes. Numbers affect every policy decision. Of course we're all more likely to test for more likely problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:01 PM
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Which is a very small amou t of men. I'm completely on the side of any man havong the right to ask for and get a test, but why wouod the government be forcing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:01 PM
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no. I think it should be optional. It's not the government's responsibility to help anyond avoid an awkward conversation, which is generally the logic i see for makong it mandatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:55 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:45 AM
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The majority of women are never raped and never abused by husbands. I am so glad that in two generous swoops, we have solved all of society's issues. Not solved, but the women that haven't been raped by their husbands should not complain about being raped by their husbands. Would you disagree? No, it's not just rich people. Rich people's taxes is what pays for the military. N9t really how taxes work. The money all goes onto the same pot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:28 PM
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Taken into account with what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:10 PM
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No. I'll pay the minumum amount. I'm mot tipping either.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:10 PM
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I just pay the price when i buy things
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 03:09 PM
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Yeah comleetely fair to add whatever optional extra they want. I wouldn't be paying it, but they can give me the option if they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:18 PM
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How? We don't know what percentage of babies that don't get tested would end up being the product on an affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:52 PM
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If you're basing this on who pays the taxes, you're not talkong about mem, you're talking about a small minority of high earning men. The men that are not in this small minority should stop whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:01 PM
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Right but he didn't choose to parent a child that wasn't his, which is the subject of the conversation. He chose other, unrelated things, but that's not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:12 PM
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No becauss we're specifically talkong about cases where he didn't choose to raise a child that's not his. Did you not read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:39 PM
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Ok, we seem to be in agreement then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:32 PM
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Not the father's fault either so he shouldn't be the one to suffer the concequences. If that's the only reason you can think of, you're agreeing with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:31 PM
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The people disagreeing are the ones that generally just troll for a reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:28 PM
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Why? Adults also matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:26 PM
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I think most men would choose to remain in the child's life. The question is whether he should legally forced to though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:26 PM
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I feel like this topic is being done to death despite very little disagreememt aboit it. I'd understand if every time there were a lot of peopke saying he shoukd be forced to parent the child, i'm just not seeing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:22 PM

That response is only made when someone claims female hypergamy is leading to societal collapse. No-one is claiming there are no problems in society. Feel free to prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:54 PM

Are blue pillers claiming there are no issues in the world, or are you just makong things up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:30 PM
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How's women surpassing men in certain degrees men supporting women? Or single sex schools no longer recieving government money? I'm not reading the whole list, but it doesn't start well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:31 PM
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So in context to financially supporting a child, you’d agree that bringing a child into poverty, is more reasonable, than not bringing a child into poverty? I take the attitude that we don't kill people to alleviate poverty. Yeah of he was raped, he had no say in creating the child, so shouldn't be on the hook for child support. That's nothing to do with morality not being a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:44 AM
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Could you demostrate it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 07:06 AM
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If rape is the cause of conception? Is Morality a factor then? Why would morality stop being a factor in certain situations? Say two fairly young, poor individuals have sex. Accidentally fall pregnant. The father to be says “Hey, we can’t afford this baby. The right thing to do is take Plan B.” Raise the child together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:57 AM
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Again if you literally think aborting an unborn fetus is the same thing as tossing your infant child over a balcony then I don't know what to tell you. You're being intellectually dishonest at best. You can believe two things are murder, whilst seeing the difference between the situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:25 PM
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A man's role and a woman's role in physically creating a child are completely different. A man's role ends at conception, a woman's at birth. Even if we accept that a woman can abort up to birth (wich I don't), we can still accept that you have up until your part is finished to change your mind. When it comes to creating a child, there is no possible equality between mem and women, so we should concentrate on what is moral whilst accepting it will never be fair between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:23 PM
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Couldn't we just tighten up the loopholes around child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:20 AM
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Surely the difference would be whether or not the accuser gets convicted of filing a false accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 08:31 AM

In the first situation, he's in the same position having wasted much less time. Alsp he has a better chance of it being reciprocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:34 PM

Depends why he's a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:33 PM

Well "dad bod" often means an athletic man with enough fat to not be shredded, which os really the most functionally fit body, so that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:30 PM
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Whenever this subject comes up, we see that everyone is defining a "bad boy" differently. Can mean a man that argues back, can mean a murderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:16 PM
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Not liking toxic masculinity, or effeminate men is not contradictory. If rhey said they want to combat masculinity, you'd have a point, but i've not heard any women say that. If they have, whilst liking masculone men, they are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:42 PM
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That's not really relevant to the points listed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:31 AM
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STD's have only been mentioned in relation to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:44 PM
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Some would be able to stay on topic. Especially when it's their own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:31 PM
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Getting women to spend more time in education is also not mentioned in the post. One of OP's points in his list was "Making more resources for children and families". Schools are a resource for children and families. Yes. But schools already exist, and are available to all children, so we can assume that schools are not the resource OP is suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:05 PM
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Empowering women is not mentioned in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:53 PM
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They should. And it should be a clearly, and widely known law on those countries. Then he can't claim to not have made the choice, and agreed to be paying child support. Western governments should hound these men for the money to send to the children. Not only is ot morally right for the child, but it also discourages sex tourism which brings STD's back to their home countries. These are a burden on the healthcare system so should be harshly dischouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:44 PM
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It was high until then if you exclude the world wars. Any evidence that the suggestions in the post are what caused it to decline? Seeing as yoi referred to it as "what got us here".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:37 PM
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yes. That demostratess what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:32 PM
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Those solutions sound good but the issue is that it goes against liberal beliefs though. They don't though. Liberals often talk about wanting to help people financially. Their methods are often questionable, but their belieft align prettu well with these suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:28 PM
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(a list of things that we tried for centuries and that got us here) Birth rates were pretty high for most of that timeframe. They've only dropped in the last 50/60 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:26 PM
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Most men don't. You've sought out the minority that like to slag off women past their 20's and used it to upset yourself. Obviously most men are still attracted to women over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:34 PM

Because you've provided information that you wouldn't have had when you decided whether to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:56 AM
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She's like "looks matter", "leagues exist", "if you're a 400 lb guy then an OF model won't be into you". WHo didn't or doesn't know that? lol. 90% of people on this sub did not know that looks mattered until a youtuber told them. They had never heard it! It might not seem goundbreaking to most of us, but to some people, it apparently is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:13 PM

How's it a baby trap? They've been trying for one for three years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:15 AM

The friend he cheating with is a psycho. Deliberately held onto this information until she could use it to inflict maximum damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:15 AM
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1 and 2 could be achieved with a childless women, if he has children wih her. 3 is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:07 AM
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What's that got to do with my comment? Drinking doesn't exclusively happen in bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:57 AM

Human meat is supposed to taste very good, if we're following this logic, which maybe we should.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:32 PM
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All but the first link says "invalid response" when i clock on them. So it shows that the standard date rape drugs are rarely used. As it says in the first article, alchol can also be used for sexual assault. It's a well known tactic where people make drinks stronger than they tell the person to get them drunk. Would that not constitute "spiking"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:23 PM
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Right. Then we'd have to come up with some reason to believe that men that fit this description would be more likely to want to date a single mother. Does that exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:10 PM
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You'd have to give some sort of definition of "high value" before there would even be a subject to debate. All you jave here is a lazy, but successful, attempt at irritating pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:34 PM

Kind of, but some women will always have small boobs, no matter how fat they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:33 PM

I think it's because men talk about these things less. We don't tell our friends what our partner's labia looks like, so there's no shaming. Whereas women are much more likely to tell their friends about their partner's penis (obviously not all women, i'm sure none of you on here do that!).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:29 PM
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More time, yes. But not double the time. Which means you're much better off splitting jobs and each doing one fully, than splitting each job 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:23 PM
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If we're thinkong of the same post, she didn't say "husband material", she said" I'd amrry you". There is clearly an overlap between the men a woman would have casual sex with and the mem she would marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:21 PM
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If you're cooking or doing laundry, you might as well do everyone's, it's barely any extra effort. Responsibility should be shared or taken in tirns, bit it seems sillu to just do all these things seperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:18 AM
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"Not hookup material" was essentially an elaboration of "husband material." It wasn't though. They're seperate statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:13 AM
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Yes, all of modern media has collaborated to collectively gaslight human society. Isn't that the whole concept of the red pill? That the whole world is trying to delude you and only a few online forums tell the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:27 PM
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There isn't someone for everyone. It's just something people say to try to comfort tgeir friend that's just been cheated on or dumped. The whole idea of an "other half", or "soulmate" is based on old pagan surerstition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:22 PM
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Do most people find them between these ages, or is this just the average? What probably happens os that theu start looking for a lofe partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:56 PM
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"Marriage material" is a compliment. It's the "not hook up material" that's the insult. The fact she called him marriage material is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:19 PM
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I never mentioned immaculate conception. Do you have trouble reading? You're wasting your own time by responding without reading the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:13 PM
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There is no already listed historical evidence. As I've explained. Larger families do not mean more frequent sex. And dicking about with caps lock isn't a subsitute for logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:02 PM
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How do you know it didn't affect their sex drive? you can be having sex once or twice a month and have eight kids. It's not that what you said is hard to understand. It's just poor logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:35 AM
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Dead bedrooms wouldn't exist if men and womem only saw each other as sex objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:43 PM
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And people were probably stressed back then. What's your point? You don't have to be having sex that frequentoy to get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:40 AM
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Men as a whole repeatedly say That's your problem right there. Men as a whole have never said anything. Neither have women, midgets, or Latinos. Obviously the men that don't value anything else about a woman are exclusively focussed on sex. They would probably openly admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:42 PM
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I assume that's why they're the traditionally male tasks. More physical, but less time consuming, so can be done by the person working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:25 AM

Sounds like an pretty alpha pastry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:20 PM
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We don't have a natural biologocal desire for heroin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:18 PM
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Nothing in Catholisism suggests that men (or women) do mot like sex. There are rules, bit with the understanding that they take a lot of willpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:17 PM
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But we'd still get the validation. She's choosing to have sex with us. Only charging because she legally has to. She's not having sex woth me for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:13 PM

Unfortunately, targetted fat loss is impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:29 PM

Do women not want to be seen as someone their husband would have wanted to bang immediately? I'm 99% certain my wife would be equally insulted by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:05 PM

Like a hunger ganes sort of thing? How would this ritual work?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:04 PM

It's not great, but what's the better alternative? If we want laws that aren't up for the vote, they have to be based on some sort of moral authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:03 PM
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When war ends, draft Dodgers will we welcomed home to impregnate women so that country can live on Where's home? You seem to be assuming Ukraine will still exist without any troops defending it. You may never be a war hero or you may not get free drinks at a pub. But you will have all your limbs and a wife and few kids. Also assuming your wife and kids will survive the country being conquered. I'd say yes, of you're single and childless, run and build a lofe elsewhere, l but if you have a family…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:18 PM

I always give this challenge to people, I am completely open to self improvement with the caveat that the person provides me with specific and actionable. I will give them my photos, my profile and a list of things I have tried and done. That's pretty much the job of a life coach. Np-one's doing all that just so they can give rand9m redditors advice. That doesn't nean anyone's gaslighting you, it just means tgey have a life of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:17 AM
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I always give this challenge to people, I am completely open to self improvement with the caveat that the person provides me with specific and actionable. I will give them my photos, my profile and a list of things I have tried and done. It's not a "take", it's what the original post says. Maybe read it before commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:29 PM
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The fact that no-one wants to be your personal, unpaid life coach does not mean self improvement is ineffective or that anyone is gaslighting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:14 PM

I think what he is saying is that, personality does not matter more than attractiveness, Nothing in the post suggests that he is saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:12 PM

Is he a despicable human being, or did he do one bad thing when he was a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:25 AM
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That's not really a problem with the advice, but if you think becoming a rapper is the way forwards, go for it. Just don't pretend that's the advice other people are giving, when you're the only person suggesting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:33 PM
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Cool. This really demonstrates the problem with giving you people advice. We give you simpke advice which works for most normal people, such as "get some hobboes, develop a personality", or "look after your personal hygiene". Completely basic and achievable stuff. You guys then convert that in your heads to, "become a world famous rapper", or "take seven showers a day" (the seven showers gets repeated here so often it's pathetic. Maybe i'm wrong and for you, personally, becomming interresting ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:58 PM
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Not really the same though if you think about it is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:43 PM
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Yes. All bluepillers have multiple rap albums and oscars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:35 PM
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Before the concert, did you not know that famous people got laid quite a lot? That doesn't contradict the idea that being a good person is a positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:29 PM
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Because most people aren't rich and famous. What sort of idiot would go around to people strugglong with dating and tell them, "just become rich and famous. Become one of the top actors or rappers in the world"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:24 PM
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There's a post most days justifying age gap relationships. I've never seen one attacking them. Maybe there are people elsewhere complaining about them, but none of them are here to have a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:37 PM
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At what age will a 10/10 with a shit personality stop being appealing? We get less horny in our 30's, but still horny enough to give women that leverage. If anything, all it means is we masturbate less often.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:44 PM
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Really this sounds like a better system than the one I keep hearing aboit in the USA. A man being known and liked in his community is a mich better criteria to choose from than just choosing based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:42 PM
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Wel she wouldn't be perfect ic she just sat abouf all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 11:34 PM
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I can like someone, and still expect them ro contribute to the household.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:54 PM
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Ah so "better quality" means "willing to give her more money".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:41 PM
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Well "will they?" Isn't an idea. Where are you getting the idea that better quality men want a stay at home wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:40 PM
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It matters hugely in the long, short, and medium term. That's exactly what most people want to avoid in marriage. Sexless but lifelong is not successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 05:39 PM
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Will they? I don't think many men want a stay at home wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:07 AM
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it might not make women horny Well then it's not going to be a good marriage then is it. Not one i'd want to be in at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:56 AM

Yeah of course. Why wouldn't i mention that that i can actually use the item?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:41 PM
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Outcomes are relevant to ethics. Drink driving is the classic example. Nothing inherently wrong. No-one gets hurt. The risk is thw issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:15 PM
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Depends whether you're talking theoretically, or in terms or real life morality. In real life, we have to consider the effects of actions. Theoretically, we can assume every action is isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:39 PM
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No. But on a practical level, it is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:27 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:19 PM
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Frequency matters. The fact that abuse is more common makes a difference. Most common arguments i hear are that its corrosion Much more people are arguing that sex work is coercion. And thw coercion argument is usually that there are threats of violence, rather than the idea that paid work is coercion ( although that belief definitelt exists).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:10 PM
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Because sometimes women change their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:52 PM
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Right but incel and virgin are different insults
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:38 PM
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If they werent assholes, they wouldnt be shamed. True. But if the shaming is calling them a virgin, it's virgin shaming. If rhey weren't trying to shame them for being a virgin, why mention it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:18 PM
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I have never seen guys for insulted for being virgins unless they say something stupid or misogynistic. That's still virgin shaming though. The fact that it's used as an insult means that it's shameful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:07 PM
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I think most men are going to have those ideas whether or not you accept the date or let him buy dinner. That being said, even within friendships, i don't like to let someone pay for stuff for me, due to the weird dynamic it creates.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:07 PM
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No because rhen it becomes expected. We'd have to wear makeup just to keep up with average. Much better that we continue to ridicule any man wearing makeup, then none of us have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:58 AM
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She is an extreme example, but men being vulnerable cost them dearly with a lot of women. A lot of people exist. You can find a lot of stories about pretty much anything, if you go aroind reddit cherry picking them. You've never applied this reasoning to women's stories. Being a heterosexual man, i tend not to get involved with women talking about dating men, seeing as I have no experience and not much of an opinion on it. me not commenting on a reddit post doesn't meam I believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:53 PM
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Why would he do another one? That is just repetitive. I wasn't talking about Joe rogan specifically. There are so many other podcasts, including ones about dating, that could be used if someone said something similar more frequently. You believe all the awful stories by women, right? Why not the men? When did I say that? Let's not just make stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:40 PM
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Right. Out of all the podcasts in the five years since this one was uploaded, there has not been another example. That alone is extremely telling. Those stories are almost always him just guessing at the reason. That's assumong we can believe reddit stories to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:59 PM
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Exactly. We only know one does. It would be silly to make overall assunptions based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:48 PM
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Of course he shouldn't have just taken it. It's very important to protect your head in a fight. This was nothing to do with masculinity. She's just attracted to idiots. If this was common for women, this clip wouldn't still be being repeated all these years later. There would be recent examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:44 PM
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This wasn't 10% of women. This was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:41 PM
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You probably wouldn't know. That's where the fear comes from. There would be no need to fear something that could be easily avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:03 PM

I meant the alternative that helps the situation. I didn't think that needed to be specifically stated. How's that going for you anyway? They as miserable as you yet? Or are they just carrying on, unimpacted by your existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:00 PM

What's the alternative? If you can't find a partner you have to either be happy being single, or be miserable being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:45 AM
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to this day he still has hundreds of millions of women who pay upwards of thousands of dollars for pictures I know you're exaggerating for dramatic effect, but there's a significant difference between what you're saying and the truth. It compketely changes the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:38 AM
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Would providing two examples of women marryinf average men prove the opposite? We can find anecdotes "proving" anything we want about any group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:36 AM
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I’m Latina and my husband isn’t circumcised Is he Latino? I've heard Latinos are rarely circumcised.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:52 PM
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I don't think it causes major harm when it happens without complications. You get uncircumcised porn actors, it's just not that obvious when erect, also i've heard they often pull it back during filming. I think we can probably all agree it's fine when done for legal reasons, but otherwise, i think should be treated like any other form of cosmetic surgery. Fine if you want it done as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:50 PM

Probably destablising america more than any other country.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:47 PM
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I can they “evidence” for this What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:05 PM
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Where does OP say anything about legal regulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:03 PM
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but I’d argue they are more common today than they have ever been. But what would you base thay argument on? Without evidence it's just making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:01 PM
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Men create harems they just don’t show up in statistics because they aren’t getting married I'm not saying harems don't exist. I'm saying they're very rare. It’s also been shown rich men are far more likely to cheat. That's not rwally an issue with modern society. There has never been a time or place where that wasn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:33 PM
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I'm pretty sure the west has the fewest men with harems out of any cultures. Most cultures never had a point where it was even frowned upon. It's still very rare in the west though. Is there any reason to believe it is about to become common? But what is your solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:28 PM
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Of course if things play out this way, we have the top 1% creating massive harems of women. The only reason this isn’t happening is because our natural instincts and nature is suppressed. In what way is our sexuality surpressed? In the west, we have pretty much unlimited sexual freedom. Monogamous people do so completely through choice. it just means preventing the top % men from creating harems. The top % men get taken off the market quickly with the model tier women. Sounds grsat, but how are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:22 PM
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There's nothing morally wrong with it, it just doesn't seem like a fulfilling way to spend your 30's/40's. He's not really living out those lost years. It won't be anywhere near the experience some teenagers were having. If he really feels he missdd out, he shouod go for it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:21 PM
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So how do people off reddit respond when you use the phrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:59 PM
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That sounds like the description most people use for the black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:53 PM
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AWALT does not mean 100% Of course it does, that's what the A stands for. Otherwise the word "most" would be more appropriate. If you think it's just an Autistic redditor issue though, maybe try using the phrase with random people when you're out and about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:50 PM
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In what way is it reasonable to expect your date to pay for childcare and transport? The other two are reasonable, bun not paying for her random expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:34 PM
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IVF is crazy and they go crazy if they can't have children. Yes, but there are many more childfree women, than women doing IVF.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:50 PM
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I'd say most spend their 20's with some vague desire for children at some point, then get to their mid 30's and feel like it's the expected thing to do. I don't think most people have a strong desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:46 PM
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What do you mean by "bachelor lifestyle"? He's not going to be banging an endless stream of attractive women if that's what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:34 AM
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In the Penn and Teller episode about circumcision, half the intactivists were women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:29 PM
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It isn't the manosphere who writes articles about how their young sons are ticking time bombs of misogny who need to be constantly monitored for the sake of other women. It's not the manosphere talking about how women need to stop having as much freedom to prevent their hypergamy destroying society?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:52 PM
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Is there any evidence that mothers are the ones choosing to circumcise their sons agains the wishes of the father?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:40 PM

Is this just another case of two different people giving different advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 02:04 PM

Why would we count circumcision as rape? There's no logic to that. It's not even an equality issue, FGM isn't counted as rape. It's a seperate crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 09:48 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:29 PM
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The fact that women do the pregnancy and childbirth is a biological reason that they have invested more energy early on. Women really can't be the providers in the early stages inless she works a purely desk job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:29 PM
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Yeah you're right. That's not a productive attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:23 PM
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Yup. There are definitley people suggesting thay she should just have sex whenever he wants. My point is that both extremes are unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:21 PM
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IMO, empathy would be acknowleging the issue and trying to find a solution that works for both of them, like you would with any other relationship issue. It doesn't have to be as extreme as "just lie there and let him use you as a wank sock every time he has an erection", but it also shouldn't just be, "Not my problem. I can live withour it so he can too."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:39 AM
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Imagine a relationshio where neither person did anything for the other that they weren't entitled to though. That wouldn't be a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:57 AM
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Do they not? "Maintainance sex" is a pretty common, and well know thing within marriages. Obviously if you only focus on dead bedrooms, it will seem like all marriages have a partner that can't be bothered wirh sex, and won't make an effort for the other. This is a pretty biased sampke though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:48 AM
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Well it really depends what you mean by "a reasonable chance". Obviously a ten year age gap in not going to be that noticable for someone that's still dating in their 50's. It doesn't mention how old the people asked were. When it comes to marriage, your link says only 8% of marriages have a 10 year age gap. Although they happen, they are ckwarly a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:13 PM
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I think he should definitelt pay the child support, i'm just unsure whether what he did would constitute fraud in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:40 AM
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If he's actually friends with the mother, i think we can assume that he noticed her being pregnant then walking around with a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:39 AM
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I guess if he knew and deliberately avoided his financial responsibility, that could be a good case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:44 PM
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Why would he pay a fine? He's not lied or defrauded anyone. He may not have even known.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:35 PM
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Topics seem to go in waves like this. One week it was sex robots, one week it was financial abortions. Paternaty fraud is just this weeks topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:34 PM

There are mich cheaper ones in most places. In the uk probably £70/month for a really good one is standard. If not, there are much cheaper hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:53 PM
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Doesn't matter. It can be fun to discuss hypotheticals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:28 PM
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Like you said, restorative justice is probably unachievable. She would have to pay him back a rough estimate of how much money he's spent on the child, plus put a number on the time spent.altogether, that value would far exceed what she could pay. Outting her in prison would obviously cause huge suffering to the child, as well as being an enormous financial burden on the taxpayer. Best I can think of is a criminal conviction that goes on her criminal record. Also a debt that will be paid if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:24 PM
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Well done for taking my advice and making a seperate post. No, i'd keep contact. We have a relationship now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:17 PM
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Yes, and I asked you what your decision would be. Nope. Just trying to explain that thinking something doesn't make ot true. It's not relevant because a thirty year old requires no child support. Also, as hard as I may try, how I would act does not equal what is moral in 100% of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:50 PM
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