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look again I've changed the message.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 08:35 PM
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They are discriminating against Trans-women, because they think they are Men. And they think that not having special "Women's only" leagues oppresses Women, which justifies discrimination against male athletes competing with Women.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 08:10 PM
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and if you don't think chromosomes matter then theres no point. Well you have ruled out everything apart from chromosomes and genitalia so it has to be one or the other. Just thank your lucky stars you weren't born with an extra copy of chromosome 13, or a piece missing from chromosome 5. You seem to think that chromosomes determine capabilities but that it refuted by not all Men or All Women having the same capabilities. Even though they have the exact same chromosomes...
/r/MensRights05/02/19 07:48 PM
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Do high school girls ever defeat Olympic women? That's my point... Correct, because one set of disparities is far more pronounced. So a Woman who is 6ft Tall and a bodybuilder will get beaten in anything by a Woman who doesn't have them advantages? What planet are you on? Which part of "men are much bigger, stronger, and all-around better suited to athletic competition than women" is giving you trouble The part in which a penis or a y chromosome gives someone an advantage all else being equal(st…
/r/MensRights04/02/19 06:47 PM
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Genetics is just one factor in which woman is the best. Other factors such as training, experience, and coaching can overcome it. But there's no way to overcome the massive physical advantages a man has over a woman. How on earth does that make sense? coaching can overcome strength disparities between Women, but not between a Woman and a Man! When women compete against men, the men not only invariably win, but they dominate. same as between Women with wildly different capabilities...
/r/MensRights04/02/19 03:36 PM
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1: This has always been mainly a "tradcon" movement. I has to be for the simple reason that the "progressives" are the ones giving it a reason to exist. Some of the things that are talked about here are pushed far more by tradcons (like conscription, MGM and pushing for more stringent prison sentences for Men.) Men didn't set up male disposability but feminists won't discuss the matter because they know this and by talking about it they would be acknowledging that the concept is real. here here …
/r/MensRights04/02/19 07:44 AM
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And some women are better than others at athletics because of genetics. Whats your point?
/r/MensRights04/02/19 06:50 AM
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Trans women who compete as women are either insanely deluded or major assholes. What about really strong Cis Women, are they arseholes too? Forcing cis women to compete against trans women is just massively unfair. What about Trans Women who have similar hormone levels and physical characteristics as Cis Women though? Surely if its an even playing ground in terms of physical characteristics, It shouldn't matter.
/r/MensRights04/02/19 12:09 AM
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You, along with everyone else, needs to start taking things at face value... It is face value. I have read your post out and commented on it. don’t try to find meaning where there is none or twist words until you see what you want. I have just extrapolated what you wrote and pointed out the flaws with it. I don't see how that is "twisting words". I have even quoted you directly as to not misrepresent you. Don’t expand upon something and say “See, this is the BIG picture!”... you draw a false equ…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 05:46 PM
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I haven't said you did. I said. Should Women use sex as a way to pressure Men into things? If not how could a Woman ever turn down a Man for sex? if she does isn't she pressuring him into changing himself into pleasing her? Meaning, I am criticizing your position that expecting others to reciprocate favours is oppressive because it would make having any dating requirements whatsoever basically impossible. If you want to ban dating then fair enough, but you would need to ban dating (and ever othe…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 01:09 PM
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the casting couch is a symbol of the moral degradation of our society. Is the casting couch any better or worse than any other form of corruption? Sex is treated as a transaction and when someone doesn’t follow through with their perceived obligation, the other party feels wronged, even though there was mutual consent. Sex has ALWAYS been a transaction, like any other behaviour if the participants didn't get something out of it, they wouldn't participate. Like anything else. We shouldn’t use our…
/r/MensRights09/01/19 08:33 AM
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But having more partners will increase that likelihood. if having more partners will increase the likelihood of leaving, then obviously, monogamy wasn't very appealing in the first place. That shows the inherently unstable nature of monogamy more than anything.
/r/MensRights27/12/18 10:05 AM
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You are terminally stupid, my friend. This conversation is over. Don't have an answer then, okay never mind.
/r/MensRights27/12/18 09:44 AM
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"disposable peasants on the frontlines" don't quite work anymore. No, but people still are involved in wars, and them wars still lead to people dying. You argued that Fuck that, women are worthless as soldiers. And I responded with in that case why wouldn't you put them on the frontline? like medieval peasants, they are disposable right? Meaning if they are worthless then there isn't a reason not to send them into war because they are the least likely to be missed according to you.
/r/MensRights26/12/18 07:40 PM
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Conscripting women? Fuck that, women are worthless as soldiers. in that case why wouldn't you put them on the frontline? like medieval peasants, they are disposable right?
/r/MensRights26/12/18 07:20 PM
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A traditional functional society would never have the need for conversation about men's rights - they are, likewise, one of the founding blocks of such society. What? so "traditional morality" which cuts off parts of young boys genitals, disregards the physical capabilities of Women who abuse and conscript Men to die in order to protect supposedly feeble Women, will somehow do the exact opposite?
/r/MensRights26/12/18 03:27 PM
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will only lead to more broken families and single mothers. We need to encourage monogamy. yep, because no monogamous relationships lead to single motherhood... /s
/r/MensRights26/12/18 03:23 PM
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Slut culture has nothing to do with men. why doesn't anyone call Women who have sex with other Women sluts then? It is specific to women and female behavior only. Yes Women who have sex with Men are treated in the same way someone who interacted with a leper was! Obviously has nothing to do with the treatment of men...
/r/MensRights26/12/18 11:09 AM
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Slut culture: Meaning Women are degraded by Men's sexuality. Women being degraded assumes that Women have more value. More value assumes it's more justifiable to sacrifice Men than Women If you think that's OK why are you here?
/r/MensRights25/12/18 11:14 PM
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Well it isn't surprising that both r/GenderCritical and r/GenderCynical hate Men, considering the only difference between the regulars on both subs is that GenderCritical's regulars are more consistent with patriarchy theory. Patriarchy theory's insistence on Men being evil requires tying Men's supposed evilness into either a mass delusion (which doesn't make much sense) or Men are just biologically driven to be evil. And since Trans-Women share the Y chromosome they inherit that supposed evilne…
/r/MensRights16/12/18 05:49 PM
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“Thus, having no recent sex while holding neutral sexual attitudes was associated with fairly low sexual well-being, while — in a similar pattern of dissonance — having casual sex while holding non-permissive sexual attitudes was also associated with low sexual well-being. However, those with the lowest well-being scores were the women who held permissive sexual attitudes but had not engaged in recent sex,” the researchers explained in their study. What? the study says here that Women's well-bei…
/r/MensRights16/12/18 04:17 PM
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Is that why they have highest rate of suicides? What is the rate of suicide among trans people who do not transition?
/r/MensRights18/11/18 05:19 PM
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Probably the biggest reason we have allowed feminism to take hold is because, deep down inside, we don't actually feel all that threatened by women. If push ever comes to shove we have that instinctual understanding that we could knock them right back down again. Meh, I think that many Men's hatred of other Men and inability to see Women as anything other than damsels to be saved played a much bigger role than that.
/r/MensRights12/10/18 01:58 PM
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As long as your not empathizing with them. I understand the position I suppose, but it is very inconsistent to say both "gender is a social construct" and "All men want to rape women because they are biologically driven to find them sexy" Not all feminist feel this way either. Yes, not all feminists feel that way but that is consistent with patriarchy theory. Typically it's the extreme feminists that fail to do research to back up their claim "all men want to rape women er go a sex doll is a "sa…
/r/MensRights10/10/18 07:48 AM
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You can't have a discussion about anything with Democrats without hearings words like 'mansplaining' and terms like 'rape culture' and 'male privilege'. How many times have you heard Republicans, or otherwise Conservatives talk about "Western Women aren't oppressed unlike those women in the middle east." and then go on about how the middle east is a "patriarchy"? The left does everything it possibly can to demonize men, particularly white men, as part of a reverse southern strategy. The right do…
/r/MensRights24/09/18 06:57 PM
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That's nice. That's actually more accurate. was it "feminism"? Yes, actually it was. You can keep reaching though, So says the guy who thinks Betty Friedan created Feminism. Which is the equivalent of saying Nintendo invented videogames. remember that reality does not bend to your desires, Again you think Feminism was invented in the 60s. That is about as "reality-distorting" as you can get. remember that reality does not bend to your desires, You are re-writing history...
/r/MensRights20/09/18 07:43 PM
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"Hate" is an abstract notion, but if you want to go by that "metric"... feminism was a "hate movement" from the very beginning. It began in the late 1960s/early 1970s through the work of 4 incredibly misandric women. Friedrich Engels? John Stuart Mill? the idea of patriarchy theory goes back a lot longer than the 1960s
/r/MensRights20/09/18 03:36 AM
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Porn itself has corrupted many people. Not just with categories like femdom, but also "barely legal" teen, schoolgirl, BDSM(bondage and sadomasochism), incest, sex with 'step-relatives', and diaper(which people wears those im real life?) categories. But all of it is evil regardless. Porn has led to many sex crimes that are committed. You have that the wrong way round. Media is influenced by society, Media doesn't cause people to do things. Somebody who watches porn, or plays GTA and rapes and ki…
/r/MensRights19/09/18 02:52 PM
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They don't think of any porn, as having all of those corosive effects. Yes they do. [–]letsgotothetrail 9 points 9 days ago Exactly. Just like men who watch porn will then insist on BDSM or anal etc. Their argument regarding sex dolls is exactly the same as their argument on porn, Men who partake will become evil, while Women who do so will not. But they aren't consistent enough to admit they think Men are physically superior to Women & Women are more virtuous, inherently.
/r/MensRights19/09/18 02:50 PM
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It genuinely makes me think their biggest concern is not being able to turn them down. Like, I don't want guys to hit on me but I want to be their only option. Yeah, it seems they want to deny lonely Men as a source of power, but have used Women's safety as a justification for it.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 08:44 PM
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Unfortunately that viewpoint seems very common with Feminist circles, including many (but not all) of the less puritanical variants.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 07:57 PM
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Yep, it DOES show what we want from modern women: nothing to do with them That's absurd, Women are a large group with lots of different people which includes many diverse viewpoints within. Some Women doesn't represent all.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 07:56 PM
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It's interesting that they don't think that Femdom porn has all of these corrosive effects. Apparently Women are incapable of being corrupted by this supposed 'evil' of dominant behaviour. It's almost like Feminism is just rebranded traditionalism.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 07:54 PM
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Apparently, Sex dolls are oppressive to Women because they are too Human-like. But they also think fleshlights are oppressive because they aren't human enough, and will encourage Men into viewing Women as objects, supposedly. So yep, I think you may be right.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 07:48 PM
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It's not even about the supremacy of Women though, to believe that they would have to believe Women were more capable than Men. When they talk about "the Patriarchy", it signals to every reasonable person they think Women are so weak and stupid that they have been oppressed by Men for all of civilization.
/r/MensRights18/09/18 07:42 PM
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as it should be destroying privilege and promoting men's actual rights to things like bodily autonomy and fatherhood. why do you think Father's rights aren't respected? It's (partially) because people like you view Men as predatory and out to oppress Women (by having sex with them, apparently) and therefore could possibly endanger Children. Assuming Male sexuality is predatory feeds into the assumption that Women are inherently caring and nurturing which is the basis of anti-father rhetoric.
/r/MensRights17/09/18 05:23 PM
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I was not implying that one gender will harm the other and it makes no difference to me if men and women were housed together or at least seperated in the same building. But if they were housed together, then surely things would go wrong. Why would that be the case, any more than all-Male or all-Female prisons? If you aren't implying that one gender will hurt the other?
/r/MensRights16/09/18 08:25 PM
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You seem to think that "being creepy" is some sort of moral standard & I don't understand how something subjective can be a universal standard.
/r/MensRights16/09/18 07:48 PM
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Some women don't want to be approached at all. If you're approaching them out of the blue you can't know if they are in that camp or not. And why would anyone make a big deal out of that, if not for some threat? If I made a big fuss everytime someone irritated me I wouldn't have time for anything else! I have been approached by people I had no interest in but in a way that was respectful and even modestly flattering, but those people generally gave me a socially graceful way out and took rejecti…
/r/MensRights16/09/18 03:40 PM
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I was implying that American men and women, not, in their hypocrisy and dishonesty, pretend as if the transwoman is a woman and have the person go to where women are locked up. and why have gender-segregated prisons if you aren't implying one gender will not harm the other? It makes no difference! A 'transman' would never have been put in where the men are. And why is that? do people think Transmen will attack Cismen? or the other way around...
/r/MensRights16/09/18 03:37 PM
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"Would I want to be approached this way?" and then err on the side of caution, then. So assume that Men are inherently predatory then? Or another way of stating it for some straight men is, "If a gay guy hit on me how would I want him to do that in a way that didn't make me uncomfortable?" Well, straight Men aren't bi. And some straight Men are uncomfortable with gay Men(and with Male sexuality itself really.)So never? but not because it is inappropriate, but because they are uncomfortable with …
/r/MensRights15/09/18 07:52 PM
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It is! Because "creepy" is entirely subjective. Creepy could be anything from "he looked at me funny" (what is looking at you funny, how do you objectively define that?) to "I think he is strange and so he is a threat" to someone who actually is a threat. The moral weight behind the term "creepy" applies equally to all of them. "Would I want to be approached in this way?" Yes/No. There is lots of things I wouldn't want done to me that others would and vice-versa. So I don't think that applies in…
/r/MensRights15/09/18 04:24 PM
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Also, as a biological male a transwoman should not go where the women are, that's common sense So transwomen as "biological males" are (apparently) rapey, therefore males are inherently rapists? Is that what you are saying? Because that is what you are implying...
/r/MensRights14/09/18 05:04 PM
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I bring up context because if we're going to talk about the way feminists look at equality and chivalry they're total hypocrites and posers. Feminists tend to think both "Men have oppressed women for millennia" and "women are just as capable as men" are consistent with each other, when they contradict. Either Women are as capable as Men, and so cannot be under their 'tyrannical rule' or Women are weak and/or stupid and so have been oppressed by men, therefore aren't as capable.
/r/MensRights12/09/18 05:59 PM
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Well, working marriages as opposed to single motherhood. If men and women were equal partners in a marriage, having 2 parents is better for kids. Yes, and if so-called "working marriages" really worked you wouldn't have single motherhood. Yeah, that's the problem, men and women are not equal in a marriage (marital rape is something only the husband can do), and divorce is normally a total life threatening disaster for men And also marriage is based around an exchange of men's resources for women…
/r/MensRights31/08/18 09:19 PM
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Yes and the person I was responding to said that marriage would somehow alleviate the problem. As if the problems that exist aren't caused by marriage and are part of some Feminist conspiracy or something.
/r/MensRights31/08/18 08:52 PM
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I've talked to feminists asking this very question: Does it hurt to be transmuted into an object via stare-beams? No? What's the harm being done, then? If I look at a person and think a certain salacious thought what harm is being done to that person?? What injury is being inflicted? There isn't one. Sometimes I think that "objectification" is just some insecure people's way of projecting their own view of sex onto others. Unless "objectification" is just the feminist way of saying "you have dir…
/r/MensRights31/08/18 03:40 PM
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Sadly, equal rights under the law isn't a liberal position right now. Yes, it is! “Men being, as has been said, by nature, all free, equal and independent, no one can be put out of this estate, and subjected to the political power of another, without his own consent.” ― John Locke, Second Treatise of Government Who wants to see more men in working marriages, instead of single motherhood and the damage that does? Men/conservatives/the religious. TIL that the MRM doesn't need to exist. To hell wit…
/r/MensRights31/08/18 07:40 AM
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Yeah that's the point! it's absurd! by definition people aren't objects. So how can you turn someone into an object?
/r/MensRights31/08/18 07:17 AM
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Of course objectification is a thing, How? People aren't objects!
/r/MensRights30/08/18 08:28 PM
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Long ago I watched the movie Man on the Moon. Andy Kaufman was an odd character, and he had apparently been wrestling women from the audience at his shows, so they hired a professional female wrestler, Wasn't that Pro Wrestling? And scripted? Yes really, I've seen it on video when they invaded an MRA talk and were triggered when the speaker mentioned that men on average were taller than women on average. Yes but not only that! They don't actually say this. What do you think Patriarchy theory is?…
/r/MensRights30/08/18 07:48 PM
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These do nothing to widen the gap. At best science will measure the gap. I'm talking about public perception. Feminism is already claiming that men and women are physically equal, to the extent that they consider stating that on average, men are taller than women to be blasphemy. Not really, Feminists are talking about multiple contradictory things. Firstly, yes Feminists assert Men and Women are equal. But secondly, Feminists assert Men are physically and intellectually superior to women so muc…
/r/MensRights30/08/18 06:59 PM
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There are many ways you could widen the gap between the strength of Men and Women. Everything from (obviously) scientific evidence showing differences, to assertions of differences. That all could whether rightly or wrongly, get people to believe the differences in strength are substantial or not. Everyone can contribute to changing a social narrative.
/r/MensRights30/08/18 06:31 PM
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It doesn't, but it makes Men less likely to need to kill defensively(because they can overpower their assailant). And more likely for women to need to kill defensively. Anyway, My point is widening the gap between Men and Women in physical strength doesn't help and actually hinders taking Female perpetrated violence seriously.
/r/MensRights30/08/18 06:12 PM
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Sorry I had made multiple edits to that sentence and should have been a bit more careful. It should read "Yes but if Men are substantially stronger then they have the ability to do all of them things and have physical strength."
/r/MensRights30/08/18 05:10 PM
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Only if you can outrun a bullet, poison, or a sneak attack with a baseball bat. Yep weapons negate that. But weapons aren't always available. This does not follow, you are making a general statement and assuming the woman the victim Yes it does. If someone is weaker then they are less likely to physically dominate others, less likely to be able to escape from an attacker(because they aren't going to be able to overpower them), and more likely to be vulnerable to an attack. It's just biology. The…
/r/MensRights30/08/18 07:29 AM
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Why complain at different treatment then?
/r/MensRights30/08/18 07:20 AM
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Yes it does if someone has the ability to use strength to escape an attacker, the likelihood of needing to kill to defend oneself goes down. If someone doesn't have that ability the likelihood of needing to kill to escape goes up.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 07:10 AM
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Examine: Case #1 A man kills somebody in one punch. Case #2 A woman kills somebody in 15 punches. The number of punches is irrelevant - the outcome is murder. Both must be treated as guilty of murder and sentenced equally for committing the same crime. Yes, but the thinking is Men are stronger than Women so Men will have a much higher chance of fending off an attacker. Which makes it more likely that Women will kill defensively. So differences in Ability leads to different outcomes(more likely t…
/r/MensRights28/08/18 07:42 PM
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Well yes, for example. If an average Man is capable of killing a Woman in one punch whereas an average woman is only capable of scratching a Man's face with her hardest punch, surely it's unjust to treat Women who are less likely of inflicting significant damage (because they don't have the same capability) the same as Men who are more likely to inflict damage. Because you are treating different outcomes (a scratch versus death) as if they cause the same harm.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 06:55 PM
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Sure, but you cannot treat things as equal that are different. Differences in ability inherently are going to lead to differences in value.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 06:35 PM
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It's surprising the difficulty many people have accepting the fact the men and women are different. Probably because "Men and Women are different" doesn't mean Men generally like Ice Cream and Women generally like Cake. It generally means Men should have more responsibility and Women should have less freedom.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 06:28 PM
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Different entities experiencing the same stimuli does not suddenly make the entities the same. No, but different groups having the same abilities means they have the capability being held to the same standards. If the groups are different, they aren't equal and cannot be held to the same standard.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 06:16 PM
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No, you're conflating legal equality with physical/ psychological/ social equality. Because they are related, if men and women are the same in capability, they are capable of having the same effect on the world and therefore, have the same rights and responsibilities. You wouldn't hold say, a dog to the same standard as a person would you? Because they don't have the same mental and physical capabilities. Men should have the legal right to not be mutilated as children That assumes (rightly) that…
/r/MensRights28/08/18 04:56 PM
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Do we want to be equal in the eyes of the law? Yes. Men need to be men again, and take back our male spaces. Men and women are different, and deal with issues differently. Pick one, they are not compatible. Equality is entirely about same/similar groups being treated how they are.
/r/MensRights28/08/18 04:02 PM
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"YEAH WELL WHAT ABOUT THE BERLIN WALL?" "You mean that wall that leftists, like you, built to split a nation in half?" "..... b-but muh communism!" 10/10 comeback. I can't remember saying that I am a leftist but okay, YOU are arguing for borders to separate people, not me. "Borders" are an aspect of nations. Nations have existed for several millenia. You are a trotskyist communist I see. You trotsky psychos never have any argument to present. So did slavery, what's your point? Something existing…
/r/MensRights26/08/18 08:05 PM
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Gee I wonder who built and maintained the Berlin wall, oh that's right /u/VantagePoint2018 , it was leftists, it was your type. How is that relevant? you are arguing for borders not me... It took a concerted effort from the right to eliminate the German blockade... also are you too dense to understand that Germany itself was split? yeah you probably are. And the right are the ones today supporting said borders, what's your point? I understand that you are a communist/socialist, but non commies a…
/r/MensRights26/08/18 06:53 PM
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All nations have both the right and the obligation to secure their borders. They must be sovereign within their own borders, which includes securing the border itself. Hey everyone! according to u/TheMythof_Feminism the Berlin Wall was the essence of liberty! because apparently, separating people by force is pro liberty... You are confusing liberty with subjugation, as leftists are so prone to doing. Your highest value, subjugation is the OPPOSITE of liberty. Yep, because not violently enforcing…
/r/MensRights26/08/18 06:33 PM
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Strawman argument. Not surprising coming from a leftist. Nope, you argued that right-wingers are defined by being pro-freedom. Being pro borders is anti freedom. You are confused, not me. Only the most hardcore leftists are against borders, aka; Commies. And you said the most pro freedom people are Conservatives? why on earth would pro liberty, anti government people be in favour of the government being able to decide who comes in and out? Projection. You do not know what "Strawmanning is". It i…
/r/MensRights26/08/18 05:27 PM
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Conversely, the right is highly compatible with men's rights because again by definition, ensuring that the rights of the citizenry are respected is an aspect of liberty which is a core value of the right. Um, how then do most Republicans, or UK Conservative Party members, or Australian Liberal Party members oppose free immigration? or drug legalization? or sex work legalization? If the right is defined by support for liberty, it seems strange that arresting people for opposing "family values" i…
/r/MensRights26/08/18 04:31 PM
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Well, at least Feminists are starting to recognize that women are capable of doing bad things now. She at least deserves praise for that!
/r/MensRights22/08/18 03:47 PM
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and I'm sure defense cases built around the idea that the murder suspect was an abuse victim carry more weight with judges and juries than they would the other way around. That's my point, people who make assumptions of court bias may be comparing apples and oranges regarding what crimes are committed. Maybe there are different sentences for different crimes?
/r/MensRights15/08/18 04:35 PM
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/r/MensRights14/08/18 10:00 PM
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western conservatives created the "alimony for life" slavery.... and the "all men are pedophiles" moral panic.... and the "every man is a sexual offender" and "all porn is evil" and "we must cut the boy's penises so they they don't touch themselves".... and much more Yep, conservatism relies on the assumption that men are never vulnerable and women are nothing but.
/r/MensRights13/08/18 06:08 PM
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Yet feminists up to now have embraced it because they've found it expedient. That's why she discards it now. Not because anything has changed, she sees it as a potential liability now. Not exactly, the whole ideology has always relied on an assumption of male responsibility for everything. Go back and read Dworkin and you'll find the same thing.
/r/MensRights12/08/18 02:37 PM
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One of the many myths about feminists is that we believe all men are potential rapists – that men are inherently dangerous, their sexuality naturally predatory. It’s an absurd stereotype that runs counter to decades of feminist activism. After all, if you believe men’s natural instinct is to harass or rape, what you are really arguing is that harassment and rape are normal. Well yes, that is EXACTLY what you are saying by arguing for an eternally existing patriarchy!
/r/MensRights11/08/18 06:28 PM
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. They all had their brains scrambled by a mass of nonstop social conditioning that made it impossible to create long-term attachments More to the point, there is a DIRECT relationship between the evil, technocratic (and Nietzschean) global corporate police state on the one hand, and sexual libertinism/anti-family attitudes on the other On an individual level, sure, it's fun to be on your own schedule, screwing lots of girls, not tied down, but when that becomes the norm, it's not good for anyon…
/r/MensRights11/08/18 02:34 PM
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Moreover, when Huxley was alive, there was no shortage of promiscuity, but there also wasn't wholesale persecution of people who didn't want to engage in it. There isn't. People who criticize others for having traditional relationships aren't "persecuting" any more than people who criticize those who are promiscuous are. This is a clue that there are bigger forces at work. What? the fact that other people will criticize your life choices in the same way you do to them?
/r/MensRights10/08/18 07:49 PM
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Just interesting as to how this is just "toxic masculinity" from a different angle.
/r/MensRights10/08/18 05:27 PM
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I don't like Ben either, I'm not a fan, but your acting like a childish doche bag going after his religious hat. By all mean critize his politics, but calling his yumica a magic hat, How is that any worse than calling people snowflakes?
/r/MensRights10/08/18 12:22 PM
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Having said that: the very concept of "good person" is by definition a metaphysical, religious and conservative concept. The very concept of "good person" being defined by arbitrarily following someone else's orders is incompatible with the idea of an objective "good". If something is good because someone else orders it, then it isn't good. It's just desirable. More to the point, there is a DIRECT relationship between the evil, technocratic (and Nietzschean) global corporate police state on the …
/r/MensRights10/08/18 11:45 AM
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As a more conservative person myself, i can understand where you are coming from, but i dislike that you are quick to dismiss these as qualities men should have and we shouldnt teach boys to have them (& not everything from prager is horseshit, i think youd agree with everything in this video.) In the same way you would probably agree with most things said in this video. People are generally fine with supporting things that don't contradict their narrative. Are you arguing that conservative valu…
/r/MensRights07/08/18 11:09 AM
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How do you know he's guilty?
/r/MensRights06/08/18 07:17 PM
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Because they can. People don't always do what's in their own best interests, especially when they are given incentives in the opposite direction. On the contrary people often do what feels right in the moment. Eating a candy bar instead of a carrot. Getting drunk instead of staying sober. Getting divorced and ruining the lives of your children by denying them access to their father etc. You are confusing happiness with health. Somebody could be completely happy eating a bunch of chocolates and y…
/r/MensRights03/08/18 09:29 PM
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So just to be clear: feminists waged war against the "patriarchal" family, which they claimed was oppressive to women. If there wan't a problem with the traditional family why would many women follow them? They succeeded in their efforts by brazenly lying about the nature of domestic violence, portraying fathers as abusers and denying the importance of fathers in child-rearing (well, except for their wallets). It's not as if supporters of the traditional family had already defined men's contribu…
/r/MensRights01/08/18 01:31 PM
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So, if eastern men see the bodies of women they will die like if a mortal human sees the body of Yahweh? That's so patriarchal...
/r/MensRights30/07/18 08:01 PM
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This mostly comes from his study of what happened in the 20th century when religious orthodoxy was suddenly overthrown by centralised secular structures like communism that lacked those ethical structures. It wasn't great. To be fair, Communists were just repeating what "religious orthodoxies" had done to establish their dominance, killing anyone who disagreed. That is necessary when you have a form of organization which requires everyone to believe in the same thing and yet only appeals to spec…
/r/MensRights29/07/18 09:22 AM
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This part is particularly interesting since feminists like Jensen consider women's autonomy and safety as both sacred. I think almost everywhere in the world, but particularly in the US, from my experience. Especially the Feminist critique of pornography and prostitution, which is a critique on the way men buy and sell women’s bodies. I think that’s central to challenging male dominance. Woman hires plumber: "he's providing a service" Man hires prostitute: "he's buying her body" Interesting...
/r/MensRights28/07/18 07:51 PM
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Generally, people look at the motives and background of female criminals whereas they just assume male criminals are uniquely evil.
/r/MensRights18/07/18 07:05 PM
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To be fair, the claim isn't just "she's a woman" they are claiming abuse and mental illness nullify any ulterior motive. "Karia’s young adult son from a previous marriage, Denys, wrote a letter to the court alleging that his father was abusive to Karia over many years since he met her and married her through a Ukrainian agency. He wrote that he would “menace” her with a gun and commit other acts of physical abuse" At least according to her son and his audio recordings in this Star Tribune articl…
/r/MensRights17/07/18 08:30 PM
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