Vaporwatac Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
67	Why men shouldn't be considered as the "warmonger gender"	Social Issues	Vaporwatac	/r/MensRights	12/12/23 11:43 AM

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2	Do you think men and women will eventually be able to have healthy normal relationships again? and bitch men need to step up. Can you elaborate on what you're thinking about when saying this?	/r/MensRights	19/12/23 04:19 PM
1	Do you think men and women will eventually be able to have healthy normal relationships again? Get a passport. To go where? To a place where laws are slightly less messed up? This may help and be better than nothing, but do not expect miracles.	/r/MensRights	19/12/23 03:32 PM
14	So I wanted to talk about an old case and see what other's view was of it You cannot prove with certainty that he knew her age or could know it, that's the problem. You are basically telling "just look at her age with her face, how can you miss it, lolz", if it were that simple, she wouldn't have been able to fool the guards at the club either. If the man was "stupid for not noticing it by just looking at her face", then he is clearly not the only one who could struggle with it. Throwing in jail would mean not caring about "innocent until proven guilty", and it would …	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 02:46 PM
23	So I wanted to talk about an old case and see what other's view was of it It's tough to blame someone for committing a crime that they couldn't know. It's the same reason as to why selling a hammer to someone who will use it to smash windows is not criminal, it's expected that you cannot know their intent and what they will do with what you sell them. Here, in this case, the poor man can't reliably know the age of the girl, he has no crystal ball. Good judgment.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 02:29 PM
1	Where are you politically? Improving jails would seem to be more productive, making them safer, more humane and more comfortable for prisoners would be a better step. We could devise a system where prisoners not only have to pay restitution and compensation to their victims, but they should be funding their own inprisonment imo. The problem isn't the concept of prisons, the problem is that the state is free of accountability when they don't do their job correctly of managing prisons and they have no incentive to change or…	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 12:54 PM
-7	Are my testosterone levels too low? It's possible that the animal products you are consuming are nuking your T levels, especially if you're overconsuming them. If you're consuming animals who have been fed with drugs or soy, it's even worse. Processed food is not great. Consuming more fruits could prove to be helpful.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 12:30 PM
0	Are my testosterone levels too low? No, you shouldn't get on testosterone supplements. What do you eat?	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 12:22 PM
3	Quick debate: Regardless of the bystanders', the victim's and the aggressor's sex. I agree with what you are saying, but it's worth noting that in some states you are more liable for legal action if you are helping a woman than a man	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 12:21 PM
2	How fertility clinics are profiting on the demise of marriage and modern feminists It's statistically likely that the women OP is talking about are not pro-life.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 11:33 AM
1	How fertility clinics are profiting on the demise of marriage and modern feminists I understand his concerns: it's true that career women who want to have children can end up being "jack of all trades, master of none". Juggling multiple roles in this way can be challenging.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 11:30 AM
6	Quick debate: I definitely agree that the bystander effect is terrible and should be combated as much as possible. Everyone should step in whenever possible. This includes men AND women. However, in a situation where someone doesn't feel confident in their victory, it's difficult to blame them for not physically intervening. If someone is assaulted by 10 people with machetes is it really unreasonable for someone to not intervene out of fear?	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 11:19 AM
2	How fertility clinics are profiting on the demise of marriage and modern feminists Working with a reproductive specialist or fertility doctor who shares their pro-life beliefs and is committed to preserving all embryos is a possibility. Another option could be exploring at-home egg freezing kits or methods, although it is important to remember that these options may have limitations and may not provide the same level of success or support as a fertility clinic. Exploring alternative options and letting go their needs to freeze eggs with options such as adoption is a possibilit…	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 11:16 AM
49	Quick debate: You could argue whether they had an ethical duty to at least call the police (who will only come after the crime is already done), or alert other passengers, but I don't think that you can expect them to put themselves in harm's way. You cannot be expected to go into a fight that you are not likely to win. Furthermore, putting the responsibility solely on male bystanders is wrong, both male and female bystanders are equally responsible in how they react to the crime.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 11:08 AM
1	How fertility clinics are profiting on the demise of marriage and modern feminists Pro-life people don't see anything wrong with freezing eggs, they are against the discarding of surplus embryos. If someone froze eggs without discarding, they wouldn't see anything wrong with it.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 11:00 AM
2	Where are you politically? Pro-animal rights, we should respect their rights and not murder them. Murdering them for food, keeping them in cages or even stealing their property (e.g their honey) is morally wrong. I believe that individuals should be free to choose the political system they are under, without having to change countries or leave their own homes. If someone lives in Spain but wants to be governed by Trump, they should be able to. In this case, Trump's government is going to be the one providing them services…	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 09:39 AM
2	Where are you politically? Removing fingers is stupid and needlessly risky (hello false accusations). It's also stupid to remove the fingers of an idiot who stole 3 times $1 goods. why abolish minimum wage and what about social security/welfare in general? You have to understand what the minimum wage is: it's basically the government telling an employer: if you don't pay someone at least x, you're going to jail. The employee cannot legally agree to be paid under a certain amount. However, while the concept of a minimum wa…	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 09:21 AM
1	Where are you politically? Exactly, men tend to be the majority of targets of the death penalty. Even if you think that someone does deserve it in a situation where they were already incapacitated and unable to be a threat, you have to take into consideration that innocent people can be caught up in it. You can get someone out of jail, you can't get someone back from the dead. The procedure before the death penalty is also long, costly and inefficient. Life in prison is both cheaper, safer and more productive for everyone…	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 09:05 AM
3	How fertility clinics are profiting on the demise of marriage and modern feminists Pro-life people generally don't like discarding embryos which is something that is common in these clinics, so we can already assume that the people partaking in them probably don't see abortion as morally wrong, which is helpful for determining their other moral and political beliefs	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 09:00 AM
1	Men staying single, Rejecting women and why? Exactly. Few women desire a pure sexless romantic relationship where you just help yourselves out, as it should be on paper. They either want to stay passive in the home and expect you to bring everything or they get a job and expect you to make more than them + they expect sex. They don't like men who refuse sex because they can't control them as well.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 08:45 AM
1	Would you date a non-misandrist feminist? It's pretty much: would you associate with someone with hateful beliefs but who doesn't seem to act on them for now? It depends how extreme and how hateful their beliefs are. In general, I am more likely to tolerate this shit with distant friends, but I am way less likely to tolerate it for distant friends, let alone someone I am dating.	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 08:34 AM
1	Why men shouldn't be considered as the "warmonger gender" Good and evil is useful for judging individual actions, in the sense that it can help to know whether your actions are violating the rights of others. Stealing a book in a kids store violates the rights of others and is thus wrong. The problem is when they try to apply it to a collective where it often all break down and result in pack mentality: "my side is the good guy where not a single guy of our side could ever commit atrocities, the other side is evil". If country A invades country B, few …	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 08:29 AM
1	Why men shouldn't be considered as the "warmonger gender" Killing 50 men in a few minutes with your own hands in front of you is always going to be traumatic, even if it were 100% morally justified and they were truly the "true bad guys". Now, add in the fact that in practice it doesn't happen, that they aren't sure as to whether they are hitting innocent people or not and they can "accidentally" hit civilians in the process and it's a process that is pretty much guaranteed to lead to trauma. We weren't created to be killing machines, and to kill so ma…	/r/MensRights	13/12/23 08:06 AM
3	Why men shouldn't be considered as the "warmonger gender" I don't think that thousands of men in the country dying and being traumatized is particularly "economical". But it's true that oppressive governments trying to steal resources on foreign land, even at the cost of their civilians can be a factor. Governments trying to make a quick buck by selling weapons to other governments can be another justification. But the average man doesn't have a lot to gain from this.	/r/MensRights	12/12/23 02:55 PM
1	Imagine the uproar if this was done to women. True, but you cannot physically attack this person if they don't act on this belief.	/r/MensRights	12/12/23 02:16 PM
0	Imagine the uproar if this was done to women. Someone who has specific beliefs does not deserve death or violence because having some beliefs and ideas, as bad as they may be is not a crime. If you're attacking someone for their beliefs, then you're the bad guy, regardless of what they were. The use of force is only justified in direct self-defense that only harms your attackers and doesn't harm innocent civilians. Trying to dig into the past of someone who was brutalized after the fact in order to justify to crime is victim-blaming, irrele…	/r/MensRights	12/12/23 01:42 PM