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| 1 | Looking for advice on how to build comfort over text.Women build comfort through talking about shared experiences. Ask her about her day. Don't build to much comfort without building the appropriate Seduction and Kino though. That is a good way to get into the FRIEND ZONE. | /r/seduction | 05/02/14 08:47 AM |
| 0 | Girls who have trouble holding a convo?I see two things with this, depending on the situation, which I can't judge based on your preface. Either she is running a AFC test to see if you will DLV, or she is just genuinely bad at holding conversation, but this shouldn't be a problem because if you are attracted to her, in anyway, then chances are she is not socially challenged, because she would have encountered this before. The test is simple, She initiates, this makes you think that she is interested. You start to run game, or just ta… | /r/seduction | 05/02/14 08:21 AM |
| 1 | Tried to put what I've learned to work and blew it.Dude, we have all been there. How I broke my Approach Anxiety, was (a few things really) playing the rejection game. You approach a set, wither it's one or many, with the full on intention of getting rejected, but still trying to pull a number. I felt comfortable because I was more in control of the situation, than previous similar experiences, and I got to know exactly what goes down when I approached. Another thing that helped was just striking up random conversations with people in the halls … | /r/seduction | 05/02/14 07:48 AM |
| 1 | 30 Day Challenge, Days 1-7It's only stupid if you feel like it is. Get her involved and get her to DLV so you can tease her. | /r/seduction | 29/01/14 06:51 AM |
| 1 | Is being called cute or sweet ever a good thing?The opposite of a DHV, Google it. | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Set up date, texting in the mean time?Demonstrating Higher Value. You should google it | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Is being called cute or sweet ever a good thing?If you are commonly refereed to as a nice guy, then this is a DLV and a trap. It is a DLV because she is basically saying you are the traditional nice guy, and by you not saying anything about it, it acts as a DLV. It's a trap because you have an open opportunity to refute but because you don't know how to respond, it only reenforces you being a nice guy, even more. Don't get me wrong, being an ass to women is wrong, but you also don't want to be their pet dog, licking their face when ever they … | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 09:00 AM |
| 14 | 30 Day Challenge, Days 1-7Dude, this video helped me keep a conversation going, used it today and pulled easy. | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 08:39 AM |
| 4 | No responseTo be honest, name calling just shows a weak argument, because the other person is trying to rely on getting an emotional rise out of you to manipulate you. Same with cussing...But no fucks are givin there. | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 08:00 AM |
| 2 | No responseA frame is the current subject in a conversation. Frame shift is moving the subject from one thing to another, it takes awhile to get good at doing this with a natural feel but once you do, it can be one of your most powerful tools. When I say frame shift, I am saying that you should have a "friend frame" established by the time you are talking to a girl, and then by frame shifting, or flirting and in general making her think about relationship. That would be your first step, and then the next w… | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Chickened out on girl at the gym. What should I have done?I'm doing both, while I do understand that girls don't go to the gym to socialize, on a cold approach girls are normally just living life and not really trying to get picked up. It's all about your vibe that will determine is she likes your attention or not regardless of what she is doing. And obviously I was making a joke up there XD | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 07:52 AM |
| 2 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?Nice | /r/seduction | 28/01/14 07:48 AM |
| 1 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?Lol I don't see how I'm being a contrarian, but I'll let you justify that before judging. You were talking about how girls will either say yes or no to a proposed interaction based on factors, and that you should move on after receiving a no? correct? I was just following up by saying that her reaction has reasons, and then explained my thoughts on those reasons. Lol I don't see why your attacking me XD | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:26 PM |
| 1 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?I basically laid out why her response will be what it is, based on the time you just flat out ask her if she is interested. It's not obvious how it's connected? | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:33 PM |
| 2 | No responseJust because she was giving him some "negative signs" doesn't mean that he couldn't win her over. It's a test to see how he will react. Edit: Among other things like telling him that he has the ability to DHV more, and that she will listen. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:29 PM |
| 2 | What are your goals if you approach girls in the daytime?Yeah, I picked it up from him. I don't want to take credit, just didn't know who to give to. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 09:53 AM |
| 1 | How to recover from calling a girl by the wrong nameLol, This better be a joke XD because otherwise i'm laughing really hard for no reason XD Not generally applicable man | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 09:32 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Fucked up big time, but salvageable? Hard to get a read.Lol I do it all the fucking time. Not that I mean to be malicious, but I might have girl texting me and get some ego boost from her because of the availability. It's natural for humans in general to do that when it's so easy to get, we are selfish creatures afterall man | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 09:25 AM |
| 1 | [FR] Fucked up big time, but salvageable? Hard to get a read.This guy up here #recyclablebantha give good advice man. Don't drink that much man, you should be drinking to the point where you feel at ease to communicate, you took it to far there. You could have salvaged it at several points through out the interaction though, by DHV but it wasn't really on your mind, which I understand. And lastly your kiss failed because either she wasn't in the right frame, or you hadn't kinoed properly, or both. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 09:23 AM |
| 1 | I become an inhibited unexpressive version of myself, how do I stop this?Self-fulfilling prophecy, look it up! Use it to your advantage. To help with the insecurities, let her know that you need more assurance from her, more often, but gauge her reaction because some people will consider that needy, and then it just comes down to a compatibility issue. Get, and hang out with friends who will build you up the reason why you have trouble talking to her(asumming you don't have trouble talking to others) is because you are wearing a filter over your thoughts, you don't w… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 09:11 AM |
| 1 | "girl asked me to do her a favor"?Lol a couple of things. Decide wither or not you care about this girls opinion of you. You can't be on the fence about stuff like that. And objectively look at your money stating conundrum. How much effect will this demonstration of your money have and is it the effect you want? is it the effect you don't want? | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 09:04 AM |
| 2 | Advice possibly?The reason why your having trouble deciding is because you are asking the wrong question. This goes a lot deeper than this girl. You need to sit down with yourself and decide on what you want? Do you want to be a seductionist, or will this girl do it for you? Weight the options because I know there is alot of glamor with being able to pick up women, there are also it's bad sides like the lonely nights when you wish you had someone more steady to talk to. Lol there is nothing wrong with being wit… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:57 AM |
| 2 | No responseI suggest leaving things more open ended. A lot of good advice around this post, just think about her ability to answer back. On the same token it sounds like you wouldn't get very far behaving like this to begin with, shes interested. That much is fact, but she is testing you by her response. Don't be a kiss ass, but don't be afraid to compliment when deserved. If she does something dumb let her know, but don't it to far because that will make her less comfortable with you, its all about balanc… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:48 AM |
| 2 | No responseTo harsh, Your head is in the right place, but you don't understand the true concepts at play and are misjudging his situation as much more drastic because of this. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:41 AM |
| 2 | Young guy with different circumstances here looking for some guidance.When they are talking about your age, it is a test to see if you will DLV. By accepting what they are saying, you are basically saying that "yeah, I am too young, I agree". You need to blow them off and let them know that what they are saying is stupid, because( and this is the important part) it shouldn't matter. Practice your DHVs and your IOD/IOIs and you will be fine man. The reason why your already in most of the time is because being in a band basically shows that you have higher value tha… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:37 AM |
| 1 | [FR] When to hang up the phoneLol I'm sure you can apologize to her, and pick up. But I would say dwelling on it, especially letting her know that you are dwelling on it is a bad idea, because the longer you do the more you are showing your insecurity about it. Lol good moral though, I don't do much drunk game but I could totally see myself doing this, and I know this would help out a lot. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Set up date, texting in the mean time?Don't text her is playing it safe, but if you feel good then go ahead and make the conversation fun, ask alot of questions that are open ended and pry at some person stuff if it comes up. Make sure to do lots of teasing or more abstractly DHV, so she doesn't change her mind about you, although if you don't have anything to say then just don't XD it's not like she will hate you if you don't talk to her for alittle bit, and tbh it could be a DHV if you play it right. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Can't close once in the bedroom.Lol hard to tell exactly what the problem is when you leave out the details regarding the actual shut down, but it sounds like your not Frame shifting properly. You need to take the frame of mind for her and mover her through the stages to sex instead of just jumping to it. You can do this through routines like the tickle game, but in an impromptu moment it helps to understand that girls need to get their mind in the sex mood first. Lol talk to her, gauge where she is then move to the romantic f… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:25 AM |
| 4 | How do I attract higher-value women?Demonstrate even higher value than them. You can do this through a NEG or IOD but what you have to do is basically IOD( Indicator of disinterest) because all the time they are getting bombarded by AFCs and they have gotten good at throwing them off, with tests and flat out saying no. Use some IODs to show that you are not a AFC and that your higher value than them. Then when they notice that you are not sucking their dick for attention they will try to find out why. and then your in. It's a subt… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Being called uglyLol your attractiveness isn't about looks, I would say that is only like 3 or 4 points out of the entire 10, and if you have a good build then you are doing fine. It might be about your personality and the DLVs your putting off, instead of telling her she was gorgeous, you should have "negged" or at least IOD'ed her ass with a look who is talking. It all comes down to this: "Only AFCs let other people opinions of them, bother them" More concrete advice: Laugh that shit off and move on. Who cares… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:09 AM |
| 1 | 4 reasons why having a safety net of buddies is a bad ideaWhat context is all this for? Because I could see this situation at a club totally not fitting with what your saying :P | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:05 AM |
| 0 | [FR] girl went from being interested in a date to blocking my number and deleting me off facebook, how should I have handled this?Edit: don't catch "onitious" but i'm sure you could find one of her friends and explain it to her, get you back in with the group | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:03 AM |
| 2 | [FR] girl went from being interested in a date to blocking my number and deleting me off facebook, how should I have handled this?Lol just forget her. I like your balls, but you went over board. She was setting a trap for you to see if you would DLV and when you DHV she told you, you passed the test by saying your funny. Your mistake was thinking that you had shifted the frame. While in reality you had used your sexuality to DHV, not necessarily shifting the frame to sexual because she didn't follow. Then when you kept up that frame she knew you weren't getting the picture and IOD'ed your ass because you hadn't picked up o… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 08:01 AM |
| -4 | How Being A "Nice Guy" Can Get You LaidIt doesn't. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:51 AM |
| -2 | I study Psychology and girls often ask 'Are you analysing me, What am I thinking' etc. What are some good responses to these types of questions?Lol it's a trap man. It's the same concept as "Entertain me!" Shes trying to gain control of the frame lol. So what I would do is probably fuck around with them like say something random, then when they tell you your wrong, you point out to them how it was dumb for them to expect you to know what they were thinking. Your not a fucking psychic. Lol this will do wonders for your game because you'll pass one of their tests to see if your really the shit or just AFC. Lol I guess the abstract advice … | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:49 AM |
| 0 | What do you do when the girl you're talking to becomes disengaged?Pull back aswell. find out why shes is that way, probably because your not DHV enough. Give her some time so she doesn't think your insecure or desperate because those are both DLVs and you are already in a Low Value hole. Then after about a week run some NEGs or IODs on her till she breaks, but not to harsh otherwise she will lose comfort(aka thinking your an asshole), you can cushin your IODs by either following up with a less effective IOI to make sure your not hammering her, or you can give … | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:43 AM |
| 1 | What do you do when the girl you're talking to becomes disengaged?I did indeed rofl at this | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:35 AM |
| 0 | Chickened out on girl at the gym. What should I have done?Edit: Think about what headphones mean next time you wear them. Generally you don't wear them so people don't bother you. this does not conflict with your goal so there for there is no point worrying about her headphones. Lol I guess that's why I have no problem telling a girl to hang up and telling her to take her head phones out. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:33 AM |
| -4 | Chickened out on girl at the gym. What should I have done?That is no excuse! Shes eating a bagel, don't bother her? Dude, you go approach bagel girl, run your kino and later on that night fuck her! Point is: If you start making excuses about why you can't then you will continue to do it. You should own the space and make her give you a valid reason why it's not a good time before you stop. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:31 AM |
| 0 | Chickened out on girl at the gym. What should I have done?For the concrete situation, I would have called her over, or walked over to her and mimed her taking her headphones out. Then done my cold approach. But for the more abstract advice: I gotta say I think you need to play the rejection game a little bit more man, cause it sounds to me like your letting that stop your approach, I don't know if that is a consistent thing for you man, but if not then isolate the issue that is preventing you from doing this and tackle it head on. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:28 AM |
| 2 | How to approach alone at the beach?Lol same as any approach really, just balls out, and chat her up. once you build your kino, attraction and comfort up enough, start making moves. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:17 AM |
| 1 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?You got this partially down man, at least from my perspective. All the dancing and being hit on and hanging with the girls is all apart of the over all event called "going out" and the fucking is too, but it's not anymore important than the rest of it. That's why, for me, it's so much easier to get a girl later on in the night, because shes already done the other stuff and is ready to get to the next stage of the night. If shes just got there with her friends and you suggesting to f-close then s… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:10 AM |
| 2 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?Lol you need to learn how to build kino bro, its a step ladder with fingering kinda high up there, you gotta climb it before you get to that step | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:01 AM |
| 2 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?Lol I gotta say, this badass has some balls. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 07:00 AM |
| 0 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?Lol Don't fucking do this unless you've fucking gotten there with your kino XD lol you wouldn't want some random girl asking questions about your personal life only after just meeting you. It's kinda like that. I would have said grabbing on your junk, but we would all love that so | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 06:59 AM |
| 1 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?Lol might be, although out of 10 points for women rating me, I would say only about 2 or 3 are really about physical looks, so build up your game and you will 7, 8, or a 9 easy. Lol these numbers are obviously free floating though | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 06:57 AM |
| 1 | OK so girls grind on me a lot, we dance, have fun, but I have never pulled this way. How do you guys take things further?I get real close after awhile of grinding, and get the idea out there of taking it back to one of the two places, but only later into the night, if shes grinding on me still pretty early then I know shes still having fun and isn't ready for any 1 on 1. | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 06:55 AM |
| 2 | What are your goals if you approach girls in the daytime?Lol I try to go organic when ever I can, just keeping my end goals in mind, but this is my fall back game so I know exactly where to go incase I get lost | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 06:47 AM |
| 2 | What are your goals if you approach girls in the daytime?Edit: For all of my goals it would take a while to explain in such detail as up there, but to keep it short in sweet i'll try. Before this though, its not so much about the concrete goals as much as the abstract, I always go into an interaction with a goal and work my way to that, even though they way I may be doing it depends on the situation. Escalate kino Build comfort Build attraction Just know your stopping points so you can XD in a manner of speaking stop the movie and fuck | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 06:46 AM |
| 2 | What are your goals if you approach girls in the daytime?I see the whole game of pua sort of like a movie I guess, sex being at the very end. For guys, it's much easier to get the spoilers and sex without caring about the movie, but for women i've learned, this is not the case. While they do see sex as the end goal as well they would rather watch the whole movie and then enjoy sex as an equal portion of the fun to the rest of the game. It takes some time to get aligned with this, but they are the ones in control of they pussy so in a way they get to d… | /r/seduction | 27/01/14 06:39 AM |
| 2 | How do you guys get over a girl from the past?They had their hands amputated...Don't be jealous. XD | /r/seduction | 26/01/14 07:49 AM |
| 2 | How to recover from calling a girl by the wrong nameSaying "lol opps" and moving on, but I know I've lost points with her so I build rapport with her after that. The longer you dwell on something the more insecurity it shows and the more right you are giving her to hold it over you. | /r/seduction | 26/01/14 07:47 AM |
| 2 | Noticing a trend, great first date, K-close most of the time, then friend zoned next day. Which part of my game needs changing?It sounds to me like your not breaking enough rapport(nice guys) or you haven't demonstrated your social value well enough, and they aren't feeling the attraction to you that they were when you had control of the frame the night before. It's a tough situation to be in, but following the traditional date guide lines makes you seem like a nice guy. Also I try to avoid making excuses for a goal and instead being direct if I can, but only if the frame is right, excuses to me are just frame shifts in… | /r/seduction | 26/01/14 07:44 AM |
| 1 | [Inner Game] So the more "genuine" I become the more I realize I'm kind of cynical and bitter towards women. Any ideas?Lol take some quality time to think this out man. I was like this for alittle, I dated this alright girl who initally I didn't see anything with, after a feew months she convinced me to love her, and then broke up with me because she didn't know how she felt about me. She tried getting back together with me but I told her to "shove it up your vagina" because of the way she flipped on me. One day i'm happy fucking around and shes not, and the next shes not happy being steady and I am? I went thro… | /r/seduction | 26/01/14 07:33 AM |
| 9 | What are your goals if you approach girls in the daytime?For my day game, have goals in each stage of the approach. even before I talk to a girl, I want her to know that I'm confident so I walk with my shoulders out and normally taking up alot of space with my body position. When I first contact I like to establish a basic rapport, by telling her name, and this is where I start my kino as well, offering a hand shake. I've noticed women always know what your trying to do when you do a pick up(atleast for me) so I let them know that i'm attracted to the… | /r/seduction | 26/01/14 07:17 AM |
| 1 | 1st date - just drinks or do you mix it up?Don't set a limit on what the first date should be. do what ever sounds fun, so you don't come across as inorganic | /r/seduction | 26/01/14 07:02 AM |
| 1 | I'm successful at getting girls to go out with me and getting numbers and all that. It's that second date I have a hard time with. Suggestions?You should be controlling the frame when ever you talk to her. Start to change the frame from friends(open ended) to relationship material. Try to pick a spot like the movies for the second date, but make your kino is up to a cuddle level before that, otherwise things might get awkward. | /r/seduction | 26/01/14 07:01 AM |
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