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This is the natural consequence of intersectionality becoming the standard for the progressive ethos. You end up with a hierarchy where people compare groups and see the groups low on the totem pole as “not suffering as much” as the other, more marginalized groups. Or in simple words, you get the suffering Olympics. As if someone can’t be from a privileged group and still suffer. No, if you’re a white straight male then no problem you have is serious. It’s bullshit pretending to be some serious …
/r/EverydayMisandry18/11/25 03:36 AM
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When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To feminists, the big bad patriarchy is the answer to pretty much everything.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/10/25 06:27 PM
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I bet these same people see nothing wrong with the Man vs Bear discourse and would laugh at the idea of someone calling it misandric. It’s easy to say that misandry isn’t real if you simply say that instances of it aren’t really misandry. Just like racists can say racism doesn’t exist or transphobes saying transphobia doesn’t exist. Funny how that works.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/05/25 11:26 AM
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In the intersectionalism-addled brain of these people, they can’t ever accept the idea of hatred against men (or white people, or straight people) being as bad as hatred against their counterparts. To them, every social interaction exists within the context of an oppressor-oppressed dichotomy. And if an individual belongs to the group of oppressors (even if they’re not actual oppressors), they can’t ever be “true victims” on the same level that an individual who belongs to the group of oppressed…
/r/EverydayMisandry24/01/25 04:46 AM
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"Women don't want boy children, women most affected." Misandrists are walking memes.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/01/25 05:22 AM
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Not mostly, but the meme isn’t supposed to reflect most cases, just a specific one in which the guy is romantic and dreaming of some pure maiden from what I understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 04:34 PM
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It's just a meme making fun of a specific situation, namely, the guy being very romantic and never having sex while the woman is sleeping around with multiple guys. It's a meme, not a peer-reviewed scientific article trying to accurately portray all possibilities, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:03 AM
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It doesn’t necessarily mean that, no, but it’s safer to just go for a virgin in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:15 AM
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Of course not, but if a guy is like I said and is a virgin, he should probably prefer dating a virgin, that was my point. You should go for people with similar attitudes towards sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:11 AM
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I mean, if you’re a guy who is hyper romantic who only has sex with women you date, and who spends long periods of time not dating anyone… And then you end up dating a girl who slept around, then that’s effectively what happened, lol. That’s why guys like that should go for women with similar values.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:07 AM
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“It’s not comparable, men being more violent for biological reasons is a fact supported by data, but if you’re speaking of minorities like black men then any negative thing is for socioeconomic reasons” This is the actual argument that I’ve seen misandrists use when I’ve confronted them like that. They genuinely think their hatred for men is okay because of some weird biological determinism. At the end of the day, hatred for any group will always be irrational IMO. But it’s always wild to see ho…
/r/EverydayMisandry01/01/25 11:28 PM
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Have you ever noticed how feminists harp about “the patriarchy” as something that everyone has to fix… But men’s problems are always something that “men should fix themselves instead of expecting women to fix them”? There are a few decent feminists who recognize that women are responsible for men’s issues too, but in general what I see is this dismissive attitude of “you go fix your own shit, males”. But if you have that attitude towards women’s issues you get called an incel lol
/r/EverydayMisandry26/12/24 02:51 AM
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This reminds me of that story of the guy who saw a crazy lunatic trashing the street and cursing out everything and still chose to not avoid him, walking with his gf directly towards the guy. He then got stabbed to death while his GF watched. The BF is one hundred percent in the right. You never know what a random person acting erratically might do. Play the hero if you want, but don’t expect others to follow you. OOP is a dumbass who thinks men are supposed to put their lives on the line for st…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/12/24 01:13 PM
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Oh, you should've see the posts when Roe v. Wade was overturned. There was one with tons of upvotes of a woman saying that she'd go around her city forcefully castrating men. It just stayed up. As long as you're part of the Anointed Ones here on Reddit, you can say whatever the fuck you want.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/11/24 03:29 AM
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No, IRL I talk with men much more easily. I'm polite to women, but rarely ever am I friendly. Mainly because I want to avoid giving off the wrong impression that I'm flirting with them or whatever. I remember one time in the gym when a girl came up to me asking for help with the treadmill because she didn't know how to start it, I just went there, turned it on for her and said goodbye very quickly. I remember that she was actually trying to thank me as I just got up and left, she probably though…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:11 PM
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Bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:08 PM
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That's the same as a 25 year old who started at 20 and has one encounter every month LMAO. Even though that's an exaggeration, the "spread out the number over a number of years to make it seem like the number isn't that high" is an accurate depiction of what many women do. I saw one here who mentioned that she'd been with something like 17 guys, but since she had been sexually active for 8 years (I think?), that'd be kinda like having "only" 2 partners a year, which is obviously not much! I then…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 09:04 PM
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I'm entitled to having access to anything publicly accessible. It's what "publicly accessible" means, lol. I have nothing to take ownership over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:14 AM
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Lol, what a non-stupid analogy. No, there's nothing hypocritical about it. I think doing porn is gross, I wouldn't do it, I would be okay with living in a world with no porn. Simultaneously, I do not think it's immoral. If you want to make a shitty life decision and do porn, go ahead. So, no, no hypocrisy here. But keep telling that to yourself, I guess, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:45 AM
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That's such a ridiculous (and sadly common) statement. No, if you watch porn, you're not a hypocrite for not being interested in dating a porn star. The hypocrisy would exist if I were also a porn star, but refused to date another porn star because she does porn. Or fapping to porn and not wanting to date a woman who has also masturbated to porn. Hypocrisy requires symmetry in what's being judged. It's completely okay and not at all hypocritical to fap to porn and still refuse to date a porn sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:26 AM
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The future is now, mate. AI tools like that will be very common, lol. Sadly, deep fakes will also be very common, so maybe these tools will not be very useful. And no, you don't someone's consent to do it if it's all publicly available data.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:23 AM
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This sub is mainly a bunch of Americans. American dating culture revolves around the idea of fucking people before you're dating them. Would it be wiser for a woman who wants a LTR not to fuck before commitment? Yes. And that works in other cultures. Will that happen in the West? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:19 AM
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Nice, have you lived there? And yeah, Brazil is basically "samba + football + carnival" for them, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:40 PM
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I intend to go live in Japan soon. I've already lived there, it was fun, very safe country (especially when compared to Brazil, lol). However, I do wonder how difficult dating there will be. First, there's a lot of weirdness surrounding foreigners there. Some women fetishize them, others are afraid of them. Brazilians apparently are infamous there for being sluts, something that I'm definitely not. It seems like dating as a foreigner there won't be easy. I'm also not a super tall white guy, whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:36 PM
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Subbed for sure. I do have an intermediate understanding of Japanese though, so that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:20 PM
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What? It's shameful because I think it's shameful, lol. It's called a judgement. I do it because I can do it. Just like you probably don't, but judge other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:44 PM
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It all depends on the type of sex work you're talking about. There are plenty of sugar babies who do it because they just want more money. They're not in desperate need of money otherwise they'll starve to death. It's just the most accessible way for them to make that much money. Same with high-end escorts. They make much more money being whores than they would make any other way. However, cheap prostitutes and unknown porn actresses are pretty much always women who didn't have much of a choice.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:49 PM
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10 partners at 21 is very high. If they were casual, this is obviously someone who sees sex as something banal. If they were all committed relationships, this is obviously someone who doesn't take relationships seriously (if she's willing to have 10 boyfriends in 7 years). The comparison to drinking alcohol is just silly, so I won't even talk about it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:35 PM
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I think the implication is that those men would see a woman who isn't a virgin as not "mother of my kids" material?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 02:26 AM
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Cuz I was a hyper-romantic virgin who dreamed of finding a virgin girl and of taking each other's virginities and being together forever. I only lost my virginity when I was 23, almost 24 y/o, lol. And well, I don't care that much about virginity nowadays (I'm 29). It'd definitely be a plus, but not a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:00 AM
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Just suck it up? What else can you do? lol If the guy cares more about being with a virgin than he cares about having a loved one, then he'll probably die single. However, he can eventually relax his standards, e.g. become okay with dating a woman who is not a virgin, as long as she hasn't slept around. That makes the likelihood of him finding a girl much higher than only wanting virgins. When I was younger I could only see myself dating a virgin. Nowadays, as long as the woman hasn't had multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:22 PM
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Oof. I'm Brazilian, and Brazilian women also go through stuff like this. Plenty of foreigners think that Brazilian women are easy, so they come here expecting some random woman they meet to be interested in their dick because it's not Brazilian, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:32 PM
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I am friends with a religious couple in which the woman is very submissive. It kinda looks like a father/daughter relationship. He provides for her. But he's also the authority. If she wants to buy something, she has to convince him to buy it. He's the one who ultimately decides what they will do and where they will go. Obviously, he takes into account what she wants as well, but he's the ultimate authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:30 PM
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Oh, sure, a friend of a friend is one of those. Pansexual and absurdly promiscuous. He'd probably find it hotter if the woman is more promiscuous. I was just trying to understand if you were disagreeing with something in my post or just adding onto what I said, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:31 AM
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Sorry, I don't get your point. Are you simply pointing out that even progressive people usually do care about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:23 AM
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A pet peeve of mine, when it comes to n-count discussions, is when some progressive person starts asking me for justification for why I care about it. "But what rational reason do you have to justify why you prefer a chaster woman?" "But have you thought deeply about why you care about it? What if the woman has slept with <arbitrary-number> guys when she was young and dumb, but now she's with you and only wants you? Why would you not want to date her!?" "But what if she was this perfect woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:55 AM
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I already do that. My n-count is 1, hopefully the second woman I sleep with will end up being my future wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:40 AM
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Unrelated concepts. A person doesn't have to have sex with multiple people to enjoy sex, and a person who enjoys sex can avoid having sex with multiple people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:38 AM
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Probably, but since I have no interest in doing so, it's not really a viable solution for me. I just have to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:20 PM
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Finally, leave some concession for women who tried the casual sex for brief amount of time, found it's not their jam and left that scene because that lifestyle is heavily encouraged and someone coaxed into it but noping out of it soon after is not the same as someone partaking in it for extended period of time because they enjoyed that lifestyle. I see no need to leave such concession. A more extreme example to illustrate why: say a woman prostituted herself only once, to some old rich man. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:44 AM
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I care a lot about body count, but sometimes I wish I didn't. I know a guy (friend of a friend) who is a pansexual medical doctor who fucks everything under the sun. He probably gives no fuck about the body count of his partners, he just enjoys the relationship and carries on. I kinda envy that. Meanwhile, I'm perpetually anxious about ending up getting married to a woman who used to be a turboslut and hid that from me. Just the thought of discovering that after I'm already married and with kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:40 AM
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Probably. Look at Logan Paul, trying to wife up a woman who has been passed around by multiple celebrities. I think that once a man has slept with dozens of women, he tends not to care that much about a woman's body count. But those men are obviously a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:26 AM
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Seems like everyone is a pansexual slut in this world, judging from the dialogue options we get. But I do agree that out of those three, Shadowheart seems to be the least slutty. Karlach did mention being in a 10 year dry spell due to being in hell, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:06 AM
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Anyone playing Baldur's Gate 3? I'm wondering who has the lowest body count: Shadowheart, Karlach or Lae'zel. Gotta pick my partner properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:51 AM
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Eh, you're entitled to thinking that, but that is diametrically opposed to how I feel. I despise the idea of the State telling individuals what they're allowed to do with their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:43 PM
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My main takes about sex work are: It should be legal, the State has no business telling what someone should with their own bodies; It's not immoral, if it's consensual then to each their own; It's gross and I'd be ashamed of having any close relative who does it. I'd also never date a woman who's done it. So yeah. I'm most definitely not bitter about it, I find it disgusting and I doubt I'd even want to be friends with a sex worker. But at the end of the day it's your body and you should be allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:36 AM
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I know I'm definitely not bitter about it, lol. Even if I could make a million dollars a month by getting fucked in front of a camera I wouldn't do it. It's mostly disgust to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:32 AM
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Most people who judge women for their sexual past (like I do) do it in regards to casual sex. I think the amount of men who care about the fact that a woman had sex with, let's say, three serious boyfriends in the past is pretty small. Most men who care, care about the fact that the woman had a hoe phase in which she fucked multiple guys for fun. My point being that this idea of "sex making you dirtier" isn't quite right for most men IMO, it's more about "being a slut making you dirtier". How ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:25 AM
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Lolno. Modern civilization is objectively better. Unless you think that a much higher child mortality rate, no access to medicines, no access to basic sanitation, and a life expectancy of 40 to 50 years is "better" because "muh nature".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:43 AM
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Yes, it's the correct spelling. I looked it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:35 PM
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Jesus, I wonder how common it is for men who are living with their wives/GFs to be slobs like that, lol. I'd hope that it's not that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:03 AM
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Yeah, I find the triple journey very unreasonable as well. The same way I think it's silly when a non-traditional woman wants men to play the traditional male role, I also find it stupid when men who are not fulfilling the traditional male role of a provider expect women to fulfill the traditional female role of a housewife. So, yeah, I agree. At the end of the day it all comes down to communication and both sides not being lazy with what they can offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:59 AM
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It certainly means that less is expected in that regard from the person who is providing financially. Otherwise you're just flipping the script and making the provider suffer through the triple-journey issue. It wouldn't make much sense to split house chores+child rearing 50/50 while the man is working 40+ hours a week while the woman stays at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:15 AM
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Nope. The question was: Who cares about someone's sexual past? And a sex worker being rejected for having done sex work is being rejected because of her sexual past. And most men would do it. I also noticed how you dodged the other point: you think that most men would be okay with dating the aforementioned hypothetical turboslut who's been with 300 men, but has never done sex work? Cuz if you do, I'm afraid to say that you might suffer from acute progressive syndrome and don't understand how mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 01:09 AM
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Yes, they do. Or do you honestly think that most men would be ok with dating an ex pornstar or ex prostitute? lol And if you think that the problem there is just the fact that it's sex work: do you think that most men would be okay dating some turboslut who fucked 300 guys from Tinder and was on gangbangs? Cuz I'm pretty sure that anyone reasonable knows that, apart from some hyper-progressive men, most men would not be interested in dating a woman like that. So yes, most men do care to some deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:31 PM
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Quite recently, Character.ai has received a 150 million dollar investment. They are a platform for you to create and talk to AI characters that can simulate any personality you want. What I believe will happen quite soon is that they will invest in making the experience more and more realistic. Give the characters voices. Make them able to understand your voice. Make them respond quickly to your words. And then the next step. Make an avatar. Talk to the avatar that will emulate the character per…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 11:06 PM
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It's about leveling the playing field. Women always know that they're the mothers of the kids that come out of their wombs. Men can be deceived. So even if a man trusts a woman, in order to allow the man to have the same certainty that the woman has, mandatory DNA tests would be a good idea. That's the logic behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:08 PM
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Mate, my point is quite simple: "demisexuality" is like "blondesexuality" or "gingersexuality". You could argue that those exist as well, that there are people out there that "only feel really turned on by blonde or ginger people", but that would be silly. You feeling a strong preference for something doesn't make it a sexuality. And that's the end of it for me. You can keep believing in made-up sexualities. All sexualities are made-up in some way, so whatever, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:01 PM
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It's made up because it's not a sexuality, just a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:31 PM
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Look up the sociological concept of "sociosexuality". No, it's not a made-up sexuality like demisexual. It means how an individual sees the relation between sex and commitment. Sociosexually restricted people only want sex within committed relationships. Sociosexually unrestricted people are willing to have sex outside of committed relationships. So yeah, it is absolutely possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:01 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:58 AM
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Lol, I thought you were being ironic, but you are actually making the "women are victims no matter the circumstances" argument, huh? Man goes to poor countries looking for poor women: men are predators using the poor women. Woman goes to poor countries looking for poor men: men are predators using the poor women. Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:51 AM
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Oh, no I've been single for years now, lol. I did learn how to c0pe with it better, though. And it's far better being single than with a woman I'm not compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:39 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:31 PM
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All women's SOs have the ideal penis size. They suddenly become small-dicked if they break up, though. Schrodinger's Penis Perfection Law clearly states that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:05 PM
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Yeah, my ex. Most relationships end. Didn't end because of that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:01 PM
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I'm very sexually conservative, so I find most sex work degenerate. And yes, I'm very judgmental about the sexual practices of women. Of men as well, but I don't really care since I don't want to date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:00 PM
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My ex was actually very understanding when she saw me cry or be vulnerable. She comforted me, sometimes also cried with me, etc. I really don't relate with the whole "If you show emotions to a woman, she'll despise you" thing. But that seems to unfortunately be a fairly common experience, which is a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:30 PM
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So you think that if you jerk off to someone, but are not willing to date her... You're contradicting yourself? Just how?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:50 PM
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Depends on the circle. Within more progressive circles? For sure. I've actually talked to a guy here on Reddit who said that he found it unreasonable for a guy to not want to date an ex-prostitute who has fucked thousands of men. "It's in the past, why care?". Now, will shaming men for that become as normalized as, say, shaming men who say that men shouldn't feel obligated to pay the bill when he goes out with a woman? It all depends on how the culture will be like in the future. If it becomes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:49 PM
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Jerking off to porn doesn't make one promiscuous, if that's what you're trying to say. Promiscuity is related to having sex. A virgin coomer isn't promiscuous. As for the initial question, masturbating to a sex scene has no relation to whether or not I'm okay with dating the person in it. That's just such a non sequitur. No, I wouldn't date a porn star, even though I do watch porn. No, there's no contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:42 PM
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The main problem with that in the modern world is that it is, in my own opinion, pretty hard to socialize in certain groups. For example, I really like Japanese culture. I've lived there, I speak Japanese, I want to work there in the future, etc. There are probably a considerable number of people who would like being friends with me just because of that, and whose friendships I'd also enjoy. But I've tried finding people like that and I wasn't very successful. Maybe I'm just too anti-social or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:32 PM
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or needed fast money Thank you. That's my point. It's not really about a lack of options for many. Just the easiest way they found to get quick money. Again: had they been born male, what would they do? Just die? No, they'd find another way. Many sex workers simply see sex as another service you can offer for money. Again, "sex work is real work". Many choose it when they could have chosen another path.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:08 PM
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Interesting. Yeah, that's a common answer from people who have a more consequentialist view on morality. "She'll die either way, so...". Thanks for the response btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:14 AM
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Here's an Ethics thought experiment I once read about in a book ("The pig that wants to be eaten" is the title). Just to see how are the morals of the people here. You're a soldier currently on some military excursion in another country. Your captain, whose orders you must obey, is piece of shit who doesn't give a fuck about war crimes. He then tells you to rape and murder a female prisoner of war, who hasn't really committed any crimes. He just feels like doing it. If you don't do it, you'll be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:54 AM
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The slut/stud double standard doesn't even matter that much IRL. Guys who have it, as long as they're attractive enough, can still date women who haven't slept around. And there are plenty of sluts who end up finding some guy to marry them, so the idea of "sluts will end up single and lonely" isn't really true for most sluts, methinks. Just look at the women here on PPD who claim to have been turbosluts in their pasts, how common it is for them to talk about their husbands or whatever. The only …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:46 AM
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That's another issue entirely though. You're talking (I think) about how women who choose sex work usually have something wrong with them, like having a trauma or something like it. And yeah, it's probably true. I'd wager that very few women have normal lives and then decide to get fucked by random men for money. That has nothing to do with choice, though. I maintain my position: plenty of women choose to do sex work when they had other choices. You also didn't answer my question about the ratio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:59 AM
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I'll see if I like it, thanks for the recommendation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:47 AM
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Because a lot of OF girls are not desperate women from fucked up backgrounds, just women who want to make a quick buck. And many sugar babies do it because they want a way to get more money than they can reasonably get with what they have of marketable skills. I've actually seen you holding this exact same stance in the past lol. I don't know why you're so adamant in defending the idea that almost all sex workers are poor victims. A lot of them just think it's a way to make more money than they …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:29 PM
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My first GF had slept around a bit and I found out that I couldn't really deal with it. It was the main reason why we broke up. As for why I care about it so much, probably because I was raised by a very romantic and conservative mother, so I ended up seeing sex as something very special.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:25 PM
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I've lost count already. But men and women are different, you see. Men are the key, women are the lock. Just kidding. Only one. I had a casual relationship with her initially, didn't really enjoy it, eventually dated her seriously, but we weren't really compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:17 PM
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If she's into casual sex, or has had a phase in which she used to be, then that's already enough for me to define her as incompatible with me. And there are other dealbreakers, like having had one night stands or fuck buddies. As for the definition of "promiscuous", probably any woman who is into having multiple partners casually. But the actual definition of the word is more like "indiscriminate about who she has sex with", which most women are not, obviously. But anyway, my point was simply th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:11 PM
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In the modern world? For sure I will. A lot lot. OF and sugar babies are proof of that. It's becoming more and more common with the whole "sex work is real work" crowd. The ones who genuinely did not have other choices are women like the one my mother helped. The ones thrown into prostitution, victims of sex trafficking, etc. If a woman thinks "I can go be a cashier or suck dick, I guess I'll suck dick", she actively chose it. Had she been born a male, what would she do? Just lie down and die?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:07 PM
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I'm judgmental when it comes to that. I judge promiscuous women as women who are not compatible with me and am turned off by their promiscuity. I actually dated a woman who had slept around considerably before me, and it was pretty shitty. My ex thinking it's a good idea to talk about an ex-FWB who had a giant dick, among other TMI moment she had with me, didn't help either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:02 PM
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Oh, for sure. I actually thought that exact thing when I wrote "I'd probably still want to date a woman who values sex like I do", lol. But there are other aspects to be considered that would still make me unhappy. At the end of the day, I want someone who's led a life similar to mine. It's not only about values. Which I realize is very shitty cuz the women I'm talking about are victims of the circumstances, but oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:00 PM
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Not really about compassion, the conversation was about dating and marrying them. One can have compassion about someone's position in life and not want to get involved with them romantically. The prostitutes that I have in mind are typically women who had other choices, and who actively chose to be prostitutes. I remain finding those gross. But the ones forced into it, yeah, my mother's point made me question some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:56 PM
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What? I talk about a lot of shit with my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:45 PM
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Some weeks ago, I was talking with my mother, who is fairly conservative when it comes to how she sees relationships, and she told me something that I still can't really say how I'd feel about if I ever had to deal with a situation like this. The context was that I was telling her how disgusting I think sex work is, and how pathetic I think men who date ex-prostitutes are. She then told me about stories from when she was a kid/teen, that involved men she knew about from the small city where she …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:35 PM
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Sure, each person is different. My point is simply that if you see sex as something to be had with multiple men "because it is fun and feels good", then the act of sex itself isn't inherently valuable. It's like getting a massage or playing a videogame with someone. Therefore it would be easier for you to justify that a sexual act is no big deal, when compared to a woman who lead a chaste life and always saw sex as something that should be reserved for her future husband. I'm just generalizing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:00 PM
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Yeah, I also think so. I personally care about a woman's past for other, non-pragmatic reasons. But if a guy is more worried about the practical things that the past can indicate, I agree that there are other factors that are more reliable to be used when judging a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:10 AM
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Sure, there's certainly that aspect when it comes to the difference between high and low n-count folks. But personally, I believe that the fact that high n-count people tend to trivialize sex as "just a fun thing you can do with strangers" makes it more likely for that person to rationalize cheating. But obviously, it's not 100%. I'm sure that there are ex-sex workers out there who are faithful. But yeah, if I had to guess, I'd guess that chaste people tend to cheat less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:07 AM
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Ehh, the average promiscuous person will have something like friends with benefits and situationships, and most times people will know about it. It's not like women with high n-counts get that count by sleeping exclusively with random men they never see again. And as I said, people talk. There'll be comments. Again, I'm talking about my personal experience and what I think is the usual. Yes, there are cases of women who will sleep around and literally no one will know. But in the current world o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:04 AM
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Do you guys think that there's any statistically significant correlation between a person's promiscuity and how likely they are to cheat? I'm pretty sure that people who care a lot about sex as something special are less likely to cheat than people to whom sex is just another activity. But when you compare an average person who sleeps around a bit with some folks, to the one who considers it just another activity, I dunno, the odds are probably pretty similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:23 AM
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People talk. It's highly unlikely that a woman sleeps with a considerable amount of men and everyone in her social circle thinks that she's some prim and proper maiden. Mind you, I didn't say impossible, just highly unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:21 AM
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There's no foolproof way, naturally, but there are certainly things that a man can do to increase his odds of knowing whether a woman has slept around. Since I care about the sexual past of any woman I may date, I have to know those ways. My go-to method, other than simply asking it, is analyzing her friendships. Sluts tend to congregate with each other. But at the end of the day, yes, you can't look at a woman and know if she's slept around or not. There are girls who act all shy and cute with …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:16 AM
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I don't doubt it. No reasonable person is arguing that promiscuous women can't find a man. There are women out there who literally get fucked by random men in front of their husbands. There'll always be a guy interested. The main thing that I'd argue is that sleeping around considerably shrinks an woman's dating pool. Unless you're gonna argue with me that a hypothetical woman with a body count of 5, and the same woman with a body count of 50 would have the same amount of men interested in marry…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:42 AM
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I mainly agree with you, but I believe that it all depends on the place the people we're talking about are living in. If a guy wants to date a woman with a low n-count and most of the ones who are like that are either taken or unattractive, then to him the world will seem like there are only sluts available. If a slut wants to date someone but all the men she's interested in end up rejecting her after she tells them that she used to slut around, then she'll think that all men judge body counts a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:54 AM
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Lol, no, Canada is not more sexually liberal than the sex tourism paradise that is Brazil, sorry. And you're one person, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about people in general in certain groups. The statistics you're talking about are usually about the entire population of women in certain countries. My point is simply that the median body count is higher depending on the group you're analyzing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:49 AM
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Oh, and another point: high doesn't mean "above the average" or "above the median". It is an inherently subjective concept. If a man lives in a culture known for its debauchery like I do (Brazil), it'll be different from what a person who was raised in a culture of puritan values will think. The same way that if I ask you what a "high salary" is, you won't think about the average salary and then add like 10k yearly dollars. You'll think of something like 300, 400k USD/year (assuming you're Ameri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:31 AM
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Meh, depends on location and age range. Those stats are generalized. I'm sure that there are certain places where the median is considerably higher than that. You'd be frankly delusional if you tried to argue that the average 35 y/o woman who went to some hyper-progressive college in a very liberal city in the USA will have around 4-5 bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:26 AM
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Of course "men don't agree on what's high", men aren't a monolith, lol. I don't really know what you're laughing at tbh. The person asked what I consider a "considerably high n-count". To me personally, more than 10 is already high, but since I said "considerably", I increased it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:24 AM
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/u/HimNeutron Mate, I lost my virginity when I was 23. It was also the first time I had an adult kiss (before that, I had only had that "touch-the-lips" kiss when I was a kid, lol). The reality is that it all depends on how much the woman is into you. I find it highly unlikely that a woman who is genuinely interested in you will simply lose interest because they find out you're inexperienced. The woman I lost my virginity to was actually pretty experienced, and she was actually excited by the id…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:02 AM
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Oh, I agree, I think that hating sluts is silly. Just don't date them. Mind you, I am grossed out by female promiscuity, but to go around trying to denigrate women who sleep around is pretty pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:57 PM
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The madonna/whore complex implies that all sexuality is within the whore archetype, i.e. the man pretty much can't see the madonna (wife/loved one) as a sexual being, but as an untouchable angel. Those men I'm talking about are probably very much into the wife material women they eventually manage to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:54 PM
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I understood some of those words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:52 PM
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I doubt there are many men sleeping around with multiple women and then raging at the fact that there are no women with low body counts around tbh. That seems like a strawman to me. What typically happens is either: Men sleep around with multiple women because they are decently attractive, and they don't really care if a woman has slept around a little bit as long as it was not as much as they themselves have. Men can't manage to sleep around because they're unattractive or awkward or whatever, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:50 PM
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I don't know, 50? Depends on the social bubble you're currently located in, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:46 PM
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Pretty sure that the vast majority of monogamous-relationships-turned-non-monogamous fail. You either start off accepting that you're both degenerates who are okay with that, or you remain monogamous. The change is bound to fail for most, methinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:43 PM
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Men who think that simply segregate women into two main categories: the ones who only serve for sex, and the wife material women. So they see no problem in that, they'll fool around with the sluts and then date the ones that other guys did not manage to turn into sluts. Yes, it is hypocritical, and also selfish since he's making it harder for other men, but oh well. There's the argument that the sluts would be sluts either way and they're not ruining those women, just taking advantage of what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:42 PM
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There probably are some, but having a high n-count and being trashy are somewhat correlated. You don't become hypersexual enough to have a considerably high n-count without being somewhat, well, weird in certain ways. Especially if you're a woman, since there's a particular bad stigma related to hypersexual women, so if a woman knows that and still chooses to walk that path, she probably is very different from the norm. But thinking about it, that Japanese streamer Kaho Shibuya has done literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:28 PM
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Irrelevant to my point. You can have that mindset and not be an obnoxious person who blames The Patriarchy ™ for everything bad. Sometimes, progressive policies can have bad effects. Sometimes even — gasp — Feminism is why some bad things happen in society. My criticism was aimed at people who treat every advantage that either men or women have in society as because of The Patriarchy ™. If you're not like that, good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:27 AM
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Many times shitty people do, in fact, happen in a vacuum. Some human beings suck despite having decent parents and friends. Some people simply suck. And my problem isn't with acknowledging The Patriarchy ™. It's with treating women as perma-victims. A woman is being a shitty human being? Somehow, it circles back to her being a victim of the big bad men and The Patriarchy ™. And please spare me from the "the patriarchy isn't about men being bad" talking point. It's in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:32 AM
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Man, if there is one thing that annoys me in modern feminism is how hard it tries to make every bad thing that happens to men and women be related to The Patriarchy ™ . Like this shit on an AskReddit thread about what gives men the ick. A guy says "women who denigrate men for having feelings" and somehow the person makes it about women upholding patriarchal values. No, it's just that some women are shitty people and have a negative reaction when they see a man being emotional. Not everything has…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 01:09 AM
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Not an exception though. Just go out and you'll see plenty of couples like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:16 AM
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He was meh. Would probably be above 5/10 if he slimmed down a bit and hit the gym. The girl was considerably more attractive than him, though. And there are plenty of inkwells who are absolutely average. There are in fact very few inc3ls who are legitimately as ugly as sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:48 PM
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Well, obviously I can't know what happened after. But I can have an assumption that it had a good result, since it seemed to be going well. But that's because I disagree with your "the way the date goes in itself is in zero ways a reliable indication of interest with woman" sentence. I think it isn't 100% reliable, but it's also not 100% unreliable. And if it seems to be going well, the chances of it ending up well are better than otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:46 PM
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I was just now in a café and next to my table there was a girl and a boy who seemed to be around 18 y/o. They seemed to be on their first date. The girl was very cute, in good shape, well dressed, feminine, yada yada. Overall very attractive. The guy was a bit chubby, not really that well dressed, beard not groomed very well. But still, the guy was apparently a very decent conversationalist. The girl appeared to be having fun talking to him and seemed interest in him. Why am I saying this? I dun…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:29 PM
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I was mainly raised by a hyper-romantic mother who instilled in me a lot of idealistic thoughts about love. I also grew up reading a ton of romantic fiction, particularly romance manga, which just made it worse, lol. So yeah, I believe in it, but whether I'll have it or not is something that I'm not quite so sure about. I'm almost 30 y/o and single. Thankfully I've at least had one GF, but I feel like the tendency is for me to struggle a lot finding a partner whose values and experiences are sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:15 PM
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I start the date asking if she has a rape kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:00 PM
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4 what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:12 PM
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Yeah, and that sucks to me. I'm just not suited for this way of dating, I guess, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:10 PM
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Of course - she had me as backup, so it wasn't so tough turning down casual sex from these men while she was looking for someone serious. I don't have much to say about the subject matter of the thread, but I'd just like to express my disgust towards this. Modern dating truly sucks. Imagine you go on some dates with a girl and eventually make her your GF, only to find out later that she was fucking a random dude while you were going out with her on your first dates, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:02 PM
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Call it what you want. A spade remains a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:58 PM
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Some women are sluts and some men are mansluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:55 PM
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Yes, really. I can understand calling the double standard regressive, but to say that a man who doesn't want to date sluts is regressive is pure silliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:36 PM
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Yeah, the only thing missing is saying that men who care about a woman's sexual past have small dicks. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:29 PM
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Calling it regressive is just a way to make you seem more enlightened. It's like anti-natalists saying that people who have multiple kids have regressive views. I dislike casual sex because I find it disgusting. But I'm not disgusted by a woman's sexual past in general, so don't conflate "having had sex within loving relationships" with "having had sex with random dudes from Tinder", those are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:27 PM
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I'm overly fixated on the sexual life of any woman I'm interested in dating, but I do not have double standards. I also care about my own sexual life and do not pursue casual relationships. Your post is confusing to me because its title indicates that you're talking about all men who care about a woman's sexual life. But then you talk about how they "play into double standards". But then, you comment that "My view is that no one should be overly fixated on the consensual sex lives of other adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:16 PM
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A female cousin of mine makes me feel like that with pretty much every relationship that she starts. She's like 30 years old and: Graduated from Law school but gave up on pursuing a job related to it. Tried to pass the bar exam but gave up. Spoiled, depends on her rich father for everything. "Earns money" by re-selling some shit. However, her father is the one who drives her to the clients. Is incredibly childish and self-centered because of how she was raised. Broke up with a boyfriend because …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:50 PM
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Ehhh... Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:04 PM
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Women got the short end of the stick biologically, no question. Physically weaker, periods, pregnancy, less likely to be geniuses (although also less likely to be very dumb, so not necessarily bad?), etc. On the other hand, most men are, at least to some degree, controlled by their libido, which gives women a lot of power over them. But still, I wouldn't want to be a woman. But that's just how life works. Only male feminist types would want to "level the playing field" when it comes to that, lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 02:50 AM
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Which is why I said rude, not indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:49 AM
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Lol, of course you shouldn't make a joke that offends the person you're talking to. But if you make a generic joke that can be potentially offensive towards some group and the person starts acting all high and mighty as if the joke was a crime against humanity, then yeah, that's silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:34 PM
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Chameleon. My ex was like that. Basically, women who adapt themselves to the guy they're currently dating or trying to date. Will act like a pure maiden if the guy has conservative values, and will act like a 100+ body count slut if the guy likes that. Thinks she can choose what should matter to me, in terms of personal values. Particularly bad if she lies about something she knows I care about. Like women who are all like "Why do you care about body count?? It's irrelevant! yada yada yada". Ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:32 PM
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That doesn't make any sense, lol. Offensiveness has nothing to do with being funny or unfunny. They're completely orthogonal concepts. Unless you believe in that "Comedy is about punching up!" shit, which is absurd: even in its Greek origins comedy wasn't about "punching up". It was always about making fun of stuff indiscriminately to make people laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 11:18 PM
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Lol, what? I'm not butthurt, I just find it funny, that's all. There are plenty of women who do not do that. There are no "rules" here that women "made". Some women are borderline prostitutes like the ones I mentioned, and I find it risible how they act like they're not. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:24 AM
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So I was having a conversation with a Chad-ish friend of mine some time ago that I wanted to share here. Basically, it's about how the behavior that some (SOME!) women display, when they act like a man has to pay for the date if they want it to "go somewhere", are basically prostitutes in disguise. This was related to a female friend of his who once told him that she was going out with a guy who she saw no future with, but when questioned about why she was still going on dates with him she said …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:12 AM
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By society, not by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:35 AM
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Just a disclaimer before I answer: I've only had sex with one woman in my life, a woman that I then dated for around one year. So not a fuckboi. Do you think it's morally wrong for date women and have sex with them if they have no intention of having a long term relationship with them? It's not morally wrong to do that, no. If someone wants a serious relationship and doesn't want just sex, they should be upfront about what they want. Because it's reasonable to assume that the guy might just want…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:16 PM
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What do you mean by "relationship"? There's already a relationship in the case I'm talking about. The people are dating, they're just not officially BF and GF. So you think the reasonable thing to do is to go on multiple dates with the guy, wait for him to ask the girl to be his GF, and then once they're officially BF and GF the woman says "Oh, btw, I've done 9 porn movies in my life, many of which had gangbang scenes. Thought you should know now that we're in a relationship, teehee". That is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:09 PM
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Okay, but that's you specifically. When talking about what is morally wrong in general, we have to think about all people. Not all people date folks that are like that. Many people date foreigners for example, who come from a very different country, and their past is a mystery. In those cases, is it not reasonable to expect that a person has a moral obligation to say certain things that they know are probably important to the other person? I mean, come on, we both know that every woman who does …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:57 PM
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Don't you think that there's a level of reasonable assumptions that are made during the dating stage? Men don't commonly ask women if they've done porn, because that's very crass and strange. Most just assume that the woman hasn't done it and that if the woman had done it, she'd tell him. That's what I'm trying to get at with my post. There are some things that are reasonable to assume that "if it's important to you, then ask", but that that does not apply to every single thing that you care abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:47 PM
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You... Think only virgins wouldn't want to date a woman who has done porn? Or who prostituted herself? Surely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:39 PM
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I see. Do you have a moral rule against lying though? Cuz from a practical standpoint, a person could lie about their past because they believe that it's highly unlikely that they'd be caught. For example, a woman who has prostituted herself in another country and who, when asked about "how she feels about sex work", pretends to be disgusted by it and says that she could never see herself doing it. Because she knows that the guy she wants has more conservative values and hates sex work. From a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:29 PM
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Okay, then say that he raped someone from his home country and went to jail for it, now he's free and living in your country. It's highly unlikely that you'd ever find that out because he has a new life in your country. He doesn't have social media or anything that can make his past come back to bite him in the ass. I assume that most women would want to know that, and that omitting it would be wrong. So, does practicality reign supreme still here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:10 PM
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By that do you mean that it would be a dealbreaker if the woman had done those things? Or if she omitted having done those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:56 PM
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So what about a man who has a history of rape and sexual assault, but that's in the past and he doesn't disclose it? Practicality reigns supreme, so I assume you'd be okay with the guy omitting that? Assuming that he went to jail for it and didn't reoffend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:55 PM
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Good point. I'd also be very interested in knowing all of those things. It's just that I'd see it as mea culpa if I were to find out that she was a divorcee later, I wouldn't feel like she deceived me by not telling me that. But if she had done porn and never mentioned it, then yeah, to the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:51 PM
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So your rationale is to only mention things that can backfire on the woman if she doesn't say it? That seems less about morality and more about practicality. Don't you think that most men assume that a woman they're dating hasn't prostituted herself? And that omitting such a thing would be wrong? Imagine that the guy marries and has children with this woman and only then he discovers that part of her past. Wouldn't that be a wrong thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:12 PM
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Hey all, long time no post. Q4M (for all tbh, but mainly for men): which of the following things do you think have to be mentioned by a woman who has done them to a man she's starting to go out with? As in, in your opinion the woman has a moral obligation to tell the man regardless of whether or not the man asked. Imagine that this is during the dating stage already, not the first date, but also not officially BF and GF. Porn. Prostitution. Sugaring (a.k.a. prostitution lite). Orgies. Promiscuit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:52 PM
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Seethe all you want, PDS-haver, the guy is definitely not all bad and there are many good things that he's said that have helped more people than you probably ever will in your entire life. Is he also a grifter? Probably, yeah. He's confessed to writing that "12 rules for life" book because he thought that he'd lose his fame and he wanted to make a few bucks before that happened. Doesn't change what I said. Plenty of good came from his work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:11 PM
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Destiny is an interesting character because he's a great example of how one needs to separate someone's private issues from their public persona. His private life is absolutely pathetic to me because of the whole "Yeah I'm a cuck, so what, my wife loves me and always comes back to me after getting fucked by another man" thing. I hope they never have kids. But his public persona is a great one IMO. I have political views pretty different from his (I'm more center-right while he's a leftist AFAIK)…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:04 PM
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why no one should listen to Jordan Peterson. Lol. Every public figure who talks a lot will eventually say multiple things that are stupid. That's normal. Doesn't mean that every thing he's publicly said is bad/stupid. He seems to me like he's genuinely interested in helping disenfranchised young men. The main problem that I see in JP is what happens with almost all public intellectuals: they start thinking that because they know a lot about a subject (in the case of JP, psychology), that they th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 04:51 PM
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No, because those people are not being forced to be trad, lol. What I meant, and I admit it was my bad, was that it only hurts people who are forced into being traditional when they do not want to do that. Most people in the modern world are free to do as they please when it comes to relationships. So no, the idea of being traditional isn't hurting 80-90% of the people, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 03:38 AM
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It hurts people who don't want to be trad. If someone wants to live that life, and are adults, then that's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 06:20 PM
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I really like femininity, although I find it pretty hard to define it (just like masculinity). But there's something very enticing about a woman who I see as very feminine. Which is kind of a danger, since I have to take care not to end up simping for them. I sometimes joke with a good friend of mine that "I am one 9/10 cute asian girl away from financial ruin" or something similar. But yeah, I like women, at least the ones I see as feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:54 PM
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Least bitter feminist. Funny how hateful feminists are whenever a woman who doesn't feel and act like they're "supposed to feel/act" appears. So much for sorority.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:50 PM
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She's pretty great from my point of view. But yes, it is controversial among brainlets who feel like everyone on their side is inherently good and everyone on the other side is inherently evil. It's why you end up with people who claim that Elon Musk, Trump or Ben Shapiro (on one side), or Bernie, AOC and Chomsky (on the other side) are all dumb, bad public speakers, and just over all incompetent, and all good things that people see in them stem from ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:42 PM
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Pretty funny thread. It's about J.K. Rowling, TERF-Empress of Mankind, doing things that are objectively good. It's funny to see some people still seething at her and finding ways to say that being mean on Twister obfuscates her being a good person and in the end she's still evil. lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 09:34 PM
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Then I agree with you, I don't think that mere communication is a shit test. Shit test AFAIK requires manipulation. If you just directly ask something without any games being played, then it's not shit testing IMO, it's just normal human communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 07:51 PM
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>CMV post >All top-level responses I saw were agreeing with the OP Lol. I'll disagree with one thing: that isn't "why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rare". It's an aspect, definitely, but it's not the reason. I don't think there's such a thing as "the main reason why traditional women are rarer". But I do believe that another aspect that is just as important as the one mentioned ITT is the idea that it is more empowering for women to not be traditional. Just see the response …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 03:37 PM
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Both the Thai women and the Swedish women would be doing that, lol. The thing is that progressive women are hyper-feminists, while the SEA women tend to be more traditional. That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 10:11 PM
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Yeah, if someone is saying that, they're probably crazy. Thank God I'm not saying it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 09:36 PM
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Lol, okay, whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:56 PM
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No, I mean progressive in terms of being a misandrist who feels like most men are shitty people and women are angels. And you're kidding yourself if you think that shaming tactics aren't being employed here. There are many instances of women trying to shame the so-called "passport bros" who want to have nothing to do with them. Regardless, it's one instance of one study in one country involving a very specific nationality. Something that has to be taken with a big ol' grain of salt. As for abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:46 PM
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There were 40 interviewees, 18 reported abuse. But regardless, I expect to see many things like this study grasping at straws to shame men who don't want to date/marry more progressive women. "Oh, you want to date a woman from another culture? Here's a study, you're probably a creep who likes abusing women".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:37 PM
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A similar thing to what you're saying is what some men have recommended to me when I ask how I can know if a woman has been promiscuous in the past (because I am not interested in dating women with a promiscuous past). What they propose is for me to pretend to be a hyper-progressive man who is all-around very liberal. Who would date sex workers, who thinks women being promiscuous is empowering, things like that. And then I can ask about her past and if she's been promiscuous she'll admit it beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 05:29 PM
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I haven't dated in a long time now because I don't mind staying celibate for long periods of time. However, I personally think that the best way to maximize your chances of meeting women is to engage in as many social activities as you can. Preferably ones you are interested in. Be it some hobby, sport, voluntary work or whatever. Just do things that will have new women for you to meet. As long as you are at least average in terms of looks and a decent enough person in the other aspects of life,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 02:01 AM
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I've only recently found out about the r/MensLib sub and found it hilarious. It looks like a sub with a bunch of women talking about men's issues (the conversation is very much not male-coded). I then went to a recent highly upvoted post and decided to search for the word "patriarchy" or similar words, and there were a lot of matches, which I found funny. I guess that's what happens when male feminists want to "reclaim masculinity"? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 01:46 AM
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Sex isn't the end all be all of life. Objectively false, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:28 PM
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In the dating world, women are the ones who generally have more leverage over men, not the inverse. So if a man has preferences that are strong enough that he ends up rejecting women who don't satisfy them, then yeah, those women are losing leverage. The same wouldn't apply to, for example, saying that "women wanting taller men decreases short men's leverage", because men generally just don't really have leverage over women when it comes to dating. The scale is usually tipped in favor of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:21 PM
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Men wanting a tradwife decreases non-traditional women's leverage. Men wanting younger women decreases older women's leverage. That's how I understood it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:47 PM
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I've always found this question to be sorta silly, because it implies that the entire reason that men get into relationships with women is to ensure that they can "get the milk". If there was anything other than that that women could offer those men, the question wouldn't be asked, since it wouldn't matter how other men "got the milk". Frankly, if a man thinks like that, then obviously it isn't worth it to buy the cow. But then again, why even get in relationships if you only do it to get sex? J…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:39 PM
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Who said anything about guarantee? It's funny how many arguments in this sub end up being about "Not all cases are like that!!!". No shit. But it is more likely for an younger woman to be less promiscuous than an older woman. Source: common sense, a woman who has lived more has more experience and had more opportunities to engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 07:33 PM
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because they are more naïve That'd be creepy, I agree. less socially/sexually experienced Nothing wrong with that. I myself intend to date a woman at least 5 years younger than me, possibly more, once I decide to get back to dating. And the main reason is that I dislike promiscuity, and many men do as well. You can think that all men like that are predatory pigs who just want to defile virgin women, but I doubt that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:37 PM
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She broke up with me, thankfully. I wasn't able to do it, first GF, I was too immature etc. But it got very toxic with time because I couldn't really be happy with her and she knew it was because of her past, so eventually she got the courage to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:11 PM
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Definitely B, not even close. I've already been in situation A, it was hell. Absolute hell. I knew some of the guys she'd been with. She told me about one FWB in particular having a massive cock (and then, noticing my reaction, tried to damage control saying that it was horrible, which I later found out was a lie). She told me that a friend of mine who had been with her "didn't like condoms" (she later told me that that didn't mean that he had unprotected sex with her, just that he wanted to) Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 10:10 PM
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I have a strong feeling no woman would sleep with me if I told them I paid for pussy or even I subscribe to a woman’s onlyfans and I see why tbh I get the ick just thinking abt it Which is funny if you think about it. Call me a cynical fuck, but IMO plenty of non-sex worker women charge men for sex indirectly, e.g. women who expect men to pay for dates, who "don't date no broke guys", who treat their boyfriends/husbands as walking wallets, who punish men with not having sex with them if they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 08:15 PM
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How do you guys think "number of women who wouldn't date/marry a man who's slept with a prostitute" compares to "number of men who wouldn't date/marry a promiscuous woman"? As in, do you think that there are more guys like that than women like that? The opposite? Or about the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:30 PM
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The only thing that comes to mind was when I heard about a woman on whom I had a crush for years who slept casually with some dude I knew. She used to act like those "prim and proper religious marriage material girls", which was part of why I found her attractive, but then I learned about that and was like "huh". Since I dislike the idea of casual sex, and live in a country where casual sex is so common (Brazil), I can probably get ruined infatuations quite easily, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:03 PM
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There are different things being conflated here IMO: Women have lower libido than men. This is true as far as the studies I've seen mentioned. On average, women have both lower and more inconsistent libido levels than men. Women just have "low libido" in general. This is just absurd, there are obviously women who have high libido and want to fuck multiple times every day. A woman not feeling very horny for her partner has low libido. Obviously wrong, she probably doesn't feel that attracted to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:10 PM
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> sleazy, low cognitive, low socioeconomic women get men to pay them for sex Because that's all prostitutes have to offer. Why else? > beautiful, intelligent, successful, classy women get rejected In what universe? If a woman is all of that, she'll probably only get rejected if she is aiming wayyyy too fucking high. Like only wanting to date famous billionaires or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 09:03 PM
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Playing Devil's Advocate here, but most guys who believe that "It's fine for me to sleep around, it's not fine for my future wife to be sleeping around" quite clearly differentiate women who are wife material from women who are "for recreational purposes only", as I've seen that retard from Fresh&Fit say one day. So to those men, no, it isn't bad that they're sleeping around, because the wife material women aren't gonna start sleeping around just because there are sluts doing it. The sluts will …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 04:10 AM
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There are mainly two kinds of submissiveness from what I can see: Religious, "hardcore" submissiveness: women are seen as inherently made to be housewives. They should defer the choices related to everything family-related to the head of the family, i.e. the man. The man will take her input, but he makes the final decision always. A submissive wife is one who wants to live like that. Modern submissiveness: women who are more soft-spoken and deferential towards their men. They want to be with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:59 AM
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If by "right" you mean "morally right", then naturally no biological argument can be used to justify that something is morally right. Biology can only tell us what is natural for humans to do (and knowing where nature ends and nurture begins is something that pretty much no one can know for a fact in most instances), but it can never tell us what is the right/proper/moral way to do things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:44 AM
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What the fuck are you on about? lol It's a body-shaming insult. It is based on the idea that a man feels ashamed of having a small dick. If you wanted to insult a man, you wouldn't call him "handsome well-endowed womanizer", you'd call him "ugly small-dick incel". Because there is a negative societal connotation in each of those words. My point, again, is that it's hypocritical how some progs pretend to be all about fighting toxic masculinity, but who then defend the use of an insult that is com…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:09 PM
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On the scale of human wrongs, clapping back is hardly enough to merit thinking an entire person is 'unprincipled'. Lol. If you "clap back" against a black person calling them a n-word, while also claiming to be anti-racist, then you are unprincipled. If you claim to be a progressive person who fights toxic masculinity and then attack a man by calling him small-dicked, you are unprincipled. Simple as that. Also small dick energy is about someone acting insecure more than it is about body shaming.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:02 AM
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What's your point? It's still an insult that relies on body-shaming. Which was the entirety of my point. Tate is a dumbass grifter in my opinion, I am simply pointing out how unprincipled these progressives who yap about toxic masculinity are. They say they hate it, but then they get all giddy when they have the chance to say/do something that perpetuates the thing that they claim to detest. See also: progs making fun of Jordan Peterson when he cries, and then claiming that men shouldn't be afra…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:39 PM
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Man, the Greta vs Tate thing is a great example of how retarded most progressives are when it comes to being principled. They talk about "toxic masculinity" all day every day, and then defend the use of a body-shaming insult like "small dick energy". 23h59: "Men should be open about their emotions! It's okay to feel insecure and to open up to your loved ones! Your gf isn't going to leave you if you show your vulnerable side!" 00:00: "HAHAHAH WHAT A FUCKING SMALL-DICK LOSER THIS GUY IS, RIGHT? RI…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:11 PM
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I'm glad he didn't tbh, it's better to just break up than cheat and then break up. But it is very likely that he'll deeply regret this choice he made, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:24 AM
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I don't think so, he makes way more money than her. Most of their expenses were probably covered by him, I believe. At least when it came to luxuries like eating at expensive restaurants or traveling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:23 AM
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Like 5/10. Kinda short, I'd say 5'7? They were looksmatched IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:16 AM
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A very close female friend of mine recently got dumped by her long time bf. They'd been together for like 10 years, the guy is younger than her by like 3 years and they started dating when he was still a teenager. The supposed cause is that he "wanted to live new experiences". The guy is earning very good money and, according to my hypothesis, realized that he could be sleeping with multiple 20 y/o and decided to dump his almost 30 y/o gf. She's devastated, got completely blindsided by it. What …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:08 AM
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What can I say, I can deal with dating a dumb woman better than I can deal with dating an ugly or shitty woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:20 PM
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Go on dates, have conversations, say that you're not interested in casual sex and that you only have sex when in a committed relationship. Once you're actually in a committed relationship, have sex. If the guy doesn't want to commit before sex, then good for you, you got rid of a guy like that without adding one more body to your past. Naturally, this works better if you don't have a promiscuous past. Cuz if you do, and the guy knows, he'll probably be like "Why the fuck is she telling me that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:53 PM
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I'm a guy who stays celibate when not in a relationship, but I don't see that as conter-intuitive tbh. Guys like that see sluts as women who are "for recreational purpose only", as they themselves say. But they also want to eventually be in a LTR, and so it is good for them that society sees promiscuous women as disgusting, because that will make it so not every single woman goes around fucking every guy she can. A slut will keep being a slut regardless of slut-shaming. If anything, slut-shaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:41 PM
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Here's a question for men: considering the three characteristics of "intelligence", "beauty" and "character/morals", if you had to allocate three levels (above average, average, below average) for each one of them for a hypothetical woman, supposing you'd get into a LTR with her, how would you do it? For example: I'd choose a woman with above average morals, average beauty and below average intelligence. I thought that that was what everyone would pick, but a friend of mine once picked beauty as…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 08:31 PM
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Are you not a prostitute? I've seen you gloat about being paid to get fucked, which is prostitution where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:28 PM
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What? She is a prostitute. That isn't an offense. The term "prostitute" is a factual one, unlike "whore", "hooker" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 01:27 PM
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You're a 50 year old prostitute, are you not? Just being one of those things is enough for most men to not be interested in seriously dating you, so adding up both of those... I'm sure you can find guys at the end of the day. Riley Reid got married (though she's young and hot). So did Mia Khalifa (though she did get divorced). But I'm pretty sure that you cannot attract the same men for LTR being a 50 y/o prostitute that an average 25 y/o woman can.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 10:01 PM
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I am as well. Also, thanks for letting me know that the proper word is "indiscreet", I had no idea, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:15 PM
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Interesting perspective, but I think my ex-gf was simply too indiscreet. Before dating me, there was a story about her telling people that a guy she hooked up with was a bad lay. She just talked too much for her own good, and didn't understand what was appropriate to mention to a BF. Especially a BF that had lost his virginity to her, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:45 PM
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The woman's sexual past being important to a man doesn't mean that he only cares about that. A man can care about that as just one of many standards he holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:12 PM
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Sure you can, but it's more special when it's also the first time that that person is doing something. Sex can feel great with your 100th partner, but it obviously won't be as noteworthy as it would have been if your first partner had been the love of your life. At least IMO. But yes, if someone is actively pursuing barely legal women to date, that is indeed weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:53 PM
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I agree, if that's the only way a guy can feel special, that'd indeed be unhealthy. Thankfully most guys who want chaster women probably have other ways they can feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:17 AM
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So they want her because she lacks experience in certain areas and that will make them feel super special? Gotcha. Yeah, that's a fair assessment. I don't know why you apparently feel like that's a gotcha though, lol. People like feeling special.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:59 AM
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Sorry, but that's just some weird projection that PPD women have. Men wanting to date chaster women aren't usually doing it because they want to manipulate women or because they are insecure about themselves. Sure, those men do exist, but I think that it's unfair to assume that that's the way the average man thinks about that. As weird as thinking that the average woman who wants a man who can provide for them slept around with dozens of Chad and now wants a beta bucks. I believe that usually me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:02 AM
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It's logical that in general a younger person will have less baggage. Outliers will exist, naturally, but the more experience one has, the more baggage tends to exist. Also, baggage isn't only about trauma. It's about what a person has lived through. Many times, when men talk about baggage they're talking about the woman's sexual past. A woman can have a very healthy mind and still have tons of baggage from a promiscuous past that the guy doesn't want to deal with. As an example: my first GF, wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:56 AM
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She's a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:48 PM
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Here's some bizarre news from Brazil: a video of an adult woman proudly admitting on a podcast that she's had sex with a 13 y/o singer. It's in Portuguese, naturally. That's a crime in Brazil btw, the age of consent is 14. Truly weird how comfortable some women are with that sort of thing. A man would be crucified for admitting that, but a woman doesn't see a problem in talking about it in a fucking podcast. And then you go read the comments and it's a bunch of horny men talking about how awesom…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:56 PM
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From a physical standpoint, I really like the female body, especially when they're thin. That's one thing. From a personality standpoint, well, if they're traditionally feminine, enjoys taking care of the people she loves etc, I also find that very attractive. I'm not really a believer of the whole "female nature bad" part of TRP. Some women suck, some women are awesome, such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:56 AM
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Which is quite weird, given the name. I actually expected the sub to be more on the TERF side because of its name, but there is a lot of trans pandering there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:47 AM
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Out of random curiosity, I searched for the Twitter profile of a Japanese porn star (just search for "sakura aida twitter" and you can find it). Then I read her profile and it states that she's not only an ex-porn star, but also an ex-stripper and a single mother of FOUR CHILDREN. Hard to imagine a less desirable woman than that, especially in a conservative country like Japan. Poor soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 02:43 AM
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A Brazilian friend of mine lived in Boston for some time, and he told me something interesting once about his experience there, which was that American women apparently didn't kiss people in clubs. He hooked up with some women, but there was no kiss while they were in public. Which is strange to us because in Brazil it's very common for people to kiss strangers they meet in certain situations, e.g. street parties like Carnival, or in clubs/bars. Is that actually true, or was that just his experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:27 AM
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Eh, I doubt most people would feel happier in non-monogamy than in monogamy. But who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:49 AM
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I'm glad you're embracing your truth. I strongly disagree, but live and let live.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:37 PM
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I'm obviously implying that X and Y and mutually exclusive in that example. Jesus Christ, you're so intentionally obtuse that it actually annoys me, LOL. Look, believe whatever you want. The studies that do exist go against what you believe, but don't let that stop you. There are flat-earthers and people who deny Evolution, things with way more evidence than the (real) evidence that promiscuous people cheat more. So knock yourself out believing that a prostitute is no more likely to cheat on her…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:25 PM
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“it hasn’t been studied so it must not exist.” What? I never said that. I said that there are studies that show X, and no studies that I know of that show Y. So I believe X is more likely to be true than Y. The only way you can disagree with that is because you're emotionally involved in the discourse and feel attacked. And that's very silly: I'm a man, men cheat more than women. I accept that, because "men cheat more" doesn't mean "all men cheat", so I don't feel attacked. I am right. Promiscuo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:18 PM
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What "narrative"? There's no narrative. There are studies showing something, and no studies (that I know of), controlled or not, that show the opposite. So the more sensible thing to believe in is, you know, the one that the multiple studies show. To be honest, I was just trying to tell you that a person can be not interested in dating promiscuous people, not because of insecurity/immaturity or whatever, but simply because of a mismatch in personal values. But eh, keep thinking whatever you do, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:09 PM
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Lol, I see you're a member of "social sciences aren't real science" crew. You do you, mate. But the multiple studies made on the subject still show that correlation happening. Also, sociosexuality is an actual thing. In sociology. It isn't a made-up term, it's a real concept that describes a difference in how people treat sex. So, what now? Do you think that sociosexuality is fake? Or are people with restricted sociosexuality intrinsically insecure and immature? Sounds very bigoted if that's the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:34 PM
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We can both invent many "maybes" here, it's pointless. My point was simply that there is a reason to believe that being promiscuous and being unfaithful have a relation. But I said in my original comment that even if you disregard that, there's still the concept of sociosexuality. So it doesn't even matter if there is a causal relationship between promiscuity and unfaithfulness, I can still reject promiscuous women without there being any sort of "insecurity" or "immaturity", much less because "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:08 PM
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Ah, yes, the typical response when someone doesn't like the fact that a correlation exists. That doesn't mean what you think it does. A correlation is at the very least a reason to see that there might be something there. "Correlation isn't causation" isn't a gotcha, it just means that we can't be sure that one causes the other. But at the end of the day, people who sleep around divorce and cheat more than people who don't. Why that is, that's anyone's guess. But the fact remains true, causal or…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:53 PM
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I agree that that's the most likely reason. My ex was like that, she'd fuck popular hot guys and then act all surprised when the guys just wanted sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:25 PM
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Lolno. The thread is the one "with the woman who got butthurt". Sorry for the confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:23 PM
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Maybe, but I do think that some of them would indeed prefer to find a serious relationship but just end up in FWB situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:57 AM
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Yeah, personally, since I myself have a restricted sociosexuality, I wouldn't be interested in dating either of those types. But I do feel sympathy for the women who just wanted a loving relationship but only found casual ones. My ex was like that. In that same thread, I talked to a girl who said that during her teens she had very low self-esteem, wanted to befriend men but they always ended up wanting to sleep with her. So she ended up having a high body count when that wasn't even what she wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:44 AM
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Actually, both are sociosexually unrestricted. Since both are willing to have casual sex. The thing is that one is actively pursuing casual relationships and enjoying them, while the other wants serious relationships but always fails to get them to be successful. But yeah, both are bad options to me either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:40 AM
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I had a brief convo on that r/TikTokCringe with the woman who got butthurt about the lock-and-key analogy, which made me realize something obvious that I had never thought about: A person having a high body count can sometimes be not because they were actively pursuing that, but simply because they failed at getting into a serious relationship. If the person in question also has an unrestricted sociosexuality, they can end up racking up a very high body count, even though that wasn't their initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:49 AM
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Lol, it's amusing how condescending you are when talking to men while being this wrong. Being attracted to a man because he has a high body count would be something like "Wow, that guy sleeps with so many women, that's so hot, I wanna fuck him!". What I said was that it is common for women to not care about a man's body count. The former, which you implied with your post that I responded, is seeing a high body count as something good. The latter is seeing it as a neutral thing. But sure, you tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:34 AM
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Do men here say that women are attracted to men because of their high body counts? That'd be silly. I've never seen it. What I have seen is people telling women that despite what they might say about how women care about men not being whores, many wife material women still end up wanting those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 02:09 AM
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I've actually always thought that that's a weird thing that certain Red Pill content creators say. There's this YouTube channel called "Better Bachelor", the guy is like 50 something years old. I've seen him say multiple times that (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Men just don't care about how much you make, ladies! We just don't! You being a girl boss who can pay for everything isn't feminine yada yada". Now, I would understand it if were a mere observation that most men don't place much value into…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:54 AM
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Great comment. I agree. I've had to deal with Americans here on PPD telling me how my country (Brazil) is conservative, despite me living here and knowing that it isn't. And then they insisted that I was wrong about my own country! I've also had to deal with multiple American women here on PPD telling me that I should find an arranged marriage if I care about a woman's past, as if only the so-called "shit-hole countries" would have men like me, lol. I'm not gonna be unfair and say that every Ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:42 AM
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That's a shame, she was very pleasant to talk to and very respectful. Weirdoes gonna weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:02 PM
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I've no clue, but as I said, I haven't seen her in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:55 PM
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What? "You guys"? I usually saw people being respectful towards her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:36 PM
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Where is that PPD poster who had a flair like "egalitarian autistic demisexual 34F" or something like that? I enjoyed talking to her, haven't seen her in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:17 PM
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One interesting thing about that thread is to notice how insular people's view points can be. I think that anyone sensible understands that the majority of men around the world care about a woman's sexual past. To claim otherwise is delusional. Just like it's delusional to say that every man wants a virgin, or that every man despises the idea of dating a woman with a high body count, etc. And yet, in that thread there are multiple highly upvoted comments about how they don't know any man who car…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:10 PM
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It's not hypocritical to criticise a behaviour that you don't partake in but is somehow magically the same as one you did because of your gender. Could you rephrase that? I honestly don't get what you're trying to say with this sentence. I assume you're not simply saying that it's fine for women to criticize men for caring about a woman's sexual past, while simultaneously thinking that that woman caring about a man's sexual past is beyond reproach, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:00 PM
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Women actually tend to have a more restricted sociosexuality than men, i.e. they tend to require commitment in order to have sex with a guy, more than men do. Reference: Are men really more ‘oriented’ toward short-term mating than women? That's actually quite obvious if you think about it. In real life, the majority of women aren't turbosluts who have slept with 20+ guys by the time they were 25 years old. Despite what some redpillers and actual turbosluts on PPD may say. Now, obviously culture …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:42 PM
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I dunno about that, there are plenty of women who also dislike men who sleep around. Just stay around this sub for some time and you'll meet a lot of them. Those women wouldn't have an issue with men dismissing other women for their sexual past, since they are dismissing men for their sexual past as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:22 PM
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I've only had 1. I'm not really interested in casual sex, so I prefer to stay celibate while looking for a relationship. I don't really have a fixation on the woman being a virgin tbh, but it'd definitely be a plus. But realistically, as long as the woman doesn't have a past involving multiple casual partners like FWBs, ONSs etc, like a woman who only has sex within committed relationships, then it's fine to me. In fact, I don't mind her count being higher than mine, like 3 or 4, if they were al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:47 PM
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I haven't gone on dates for some time, but my previous relationship ended primarily because my ex had a considerably high body count for her age, while she was my first. I couldn't be happy knowing about her past, especially because I learned more and more things about her past during our relationship. So nowadays, if I were to go on a date with a woman, I'd make it clear to her that that's something I care about. If she got mad or overly defensive, then that's enough for me to understand that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:37 PM
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Regardless of personal experience, the argument is generally that most men around the world care about a woman's sexual past. And that's undeniably true. When you exclude the very progressive sub-cultures and areas of the world (whose populations summed up would probably not account for 10% of the world population), the vast majority of men wouldn't date ex-strippers, ex-pornstars, ex-prostitutes et al. Exceptions will always exist. But keep in mind that the median body count for men is like 9. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:51 AM
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As long as everyone is having safe sex, getting tested regularly there is zero concrete evidence to suggest a higher number of sexual partners mean anything for your romantic future. There is actually statistical evidence that shows a correlation between promiscuity and unfaithfulness. But even if we were to ignore that, there's still the concept of sociosexuality. If a man doesn't like the idea of having casual sex and sees sex as something special, then that's a valid reason for him to not wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:32 AM
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Pretty sure that most women who call men who care about body count insecure, are insecure themselves. Projection is a helluva drug. Sluts who genuinely have no hang-ups about their own promiscuity will generally just shrug when a guy doesn't want to date them because of their sexual past. If a woman starts screeching and calling a man a misogynist because he politely rejected her for her past, then that's some deep-seated insecurity right there. Now, of course, if the man actually insults her an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:25 AM
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I've no clue what you're trying to imply. Where did I mention being surprised? I mentioned that I think it's funny how obvious it is when a woman is an attention whore, like that OP. Some men also do that, sure, so? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:12 AM
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I mentioned elective precisely to exclude the necessary ones, like the ones you've mentioned. Some women defend the right for women to abort in any circumstance. As long as it's inside of their womb, they see killing the fetus as a right. I've even talked to a woman like that in this sub. I find that particular stance to be morally repulsive, because it basically shows that that person sees morals as completely circumstantial. Killing a baby laying on a cradle is immoral, but if you had killed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:09 AM
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That poster has literally said in the past that no woman becomes a sex worker when she has plenty of other options. Not one. Zero. She refused to accept that there are plenty of sugar babies who fuck older men just to get more money than they could get otherwise, not simply out of desperation. She seems to think that women are fundamentally victims in all situations. So keep that in mind and her future posts will make more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:26 AM
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It isn't, both are desperate for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:23 AM
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As long as it's a religion that doesn't have proselytism and whose followers don't care about me joining them, like Buddhism, then it's all fine to me. Dating a Christian who takes their faith seriously would be almost impossible, though. Especially if I were to have kids with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:17 AM
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Princess Teegra from Fire and Ice was the first one who came to mind, together with Jessica Rabbit. But someone else mentioned Chel and, yeah, that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:15 AM
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Lol, I was going to post this in this thread right now. I love how even the normiest normies can recognize when a woman is simply an attention hoe craving for male validation. There were a few comments calling people who pointed out the obvious "incels" or whatever else, but in general everyone knows what that OP wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:11 AM
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Truth is, if we stop to micro-analyze what we consider to be dealbreakers and red flags, most people will end up with long lists. But in reality, we tend to relax if a person isn't overtly bad as a potential partner. For example, I find women who defend elective third trimester abortions to be morally repulsive. Right now, writing this, I consider that to be a very bad red flag. But what if I met a woman who is almost my ideal partner in multiple points, but who happens to believe in that? I dou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:07 AM
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Sure, many women will still lie. Shitty people will always be shitty and do shitty things. But that's the thing: they are shitty. Try to justify it all you want, if you lie to a person about something that matters to them, you are a bad person. It doesn't matter whether you personally feel like they are right or wrong for caring about that thing. If you deceive them, you are morally wrong. It all comes down to respecting other people's right to have their own values. I'm not entitled to knowing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 01:21 AM
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My guess would be that older women who are single and wish that they were in a relationship probably are jealous of young women, and resentful towards men their age who prefer to date younger women. It's a fairly common thing to see, I'd say. But older women who are in happy relationships, or who are okay with being single, probably don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:29 AM
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There's no "thinking you're personally wrong" when one is talking about material reality, dear. You can disagree with me about the Earth being flat, or that, I dunno, the Moon landing did not happen. That is irrelevant, reality remains the same. And reality is, most men care. This isn't my opinion. This isn't about your personal feelings. This is reality. Delude yourself all you want. Screech into the void. Reality will remain the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:46 PM
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Lol, so you not only want a research, you want a research whose methodology is exactly the way you want it, otherwise it's worthless? Ain't that some shit? There are countless studies that have been shared here on PPD about both male and female promiscuity. Studies showing that promiscuous people have a higher probability of cheating, for example. I'm sure you can find them on your own. As for studies about number of sexual partners, again, easy to find those studies, Google is your friend. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:42 PM
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Okay, you're being intentionally obtuse. I couldn't have made my point clearer that this is about factual stuff, and not about personal feelings about sex. So, just keep deluding yourself that I'm wrong and most men do not in fact care about the sexual past of women at all. Most guys would marry ex-whores and ex-pornstars. The few men who care about the sexual past of women are usually insecure and pathetic. If that's what makes you happy, then you do you, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:34 PM
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You're going off on a tangent here. I'm not defending judging promiscuous people as lesser people. I'm telling a factual thing, which is that the majority of men will not be interested in dating promiscuous women. I don't think it's right to see those women as below them. I don't know if you're being intentionally obtuse or what, but it's really hard to have a conversation like this. Here's the reality: most guys will have slept with at most ~8 women in their entire lives. Most women will have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:03 PM
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Look, more than 50% of men care. This is based on common sense and on actual studies. There are billions of men out there in the world. The fact that you live in some hyper-progressive bubble doesn't change the reality of men around the world. Good for you that the men you meet don't apparently care, but I assure you that around the world, most (>50%) men will care about a woman having a 30+ body count. Also, isn't it interesting that the one man who showed how he cared about you having slept ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:55 PM
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Believing that people should be reintegrated into society doesn't mean that you think that a person should date them. You're beating a straw man. I don't think that that woman should be killed, but I'd also not date her, nor would I recommend that anyone dates her. And I'm responding this old ass comment because I was digging through an old notification lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:25 PM
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There's a dentist facility here where I live (São Paulo, Brazil) called Oral Sin. That's all. Just wanted to share this with English speaking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:11 PM
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I agree, as long as she's a virgin. Can't have only the men filling their trad shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:10 PM
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Right, and it's not like the woman only has two choices (tell the body count or lie). She can simply refuse to talk about it and say that she's not comfortable talking about that, the past doesn't matter, whatever. Just don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:41 PM
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Lol, that's 99% of the conversations here. Even the evidence-based stuff will usually be cherry-picked, since social studies aren't really set in stone and their results can vary wildly from culture to culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:34 PM
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Good, we agree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:27 PM
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I've just read a reply to a comment of mine here on PPD from a woman telling me that "morality is used by people that want to control other people", in response to me saying that women who lie about their body count are doing something immoral. That's probably the worst logic I've ever seen being used to justify being a liar. "You're only asking me to do the moral thing to control me!". Truly bizarre. People will invent all kinds of twisted arguments to avoid confronting their own shittiness. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:24 PM
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that anyone can be a good lover and if she doesn't enjoy it, it's her fault for being a slut Yeah, that's totally what I said and you're definitely not beating a strawman. lol You do you, dear. But my point remains: a woman doesn't have to fuck multiple guys until she randomly finds a man who satisfies her. And thank God that most women understand that, otherwise I'd be fucked trying to find a non-promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:14 PM
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It is most, though. In reality. Some men don't care, most do. Most == more than 50%. Now, obviously the level of how much a guy cares varies. Some guys only want virgins. Others, like myself, aren't interested in women who have had casual sex with multiple people. Others are fine with it, as long as it's not too many. But I can assure you: most men care in some way about a woman's sexual past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:12 PM
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Jesus Christ, what kind of absurd twisted logic is that? I'm not using morality to control people. I'm stating that lying is wrong. It is. You don't get to choose for me what matters to me in a relationship. If I say I want a woman who hasn't slept around, you've slept around, and you tell me that you haven't, you are wrong. Like, holy shit, that's legitimately the worst argument I've ever seen. You're trying to twist a person wanting honesty from someone else as a way to control their sexuality…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:09 PM
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What vitriol? Calling them "sluts"? lol People can lie all they want. They're wrong for doing so, though. Having a reason to lie doesn't make it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:05 PM
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Sure, it's good to have sex before marriage, never disagreed with that. I'm just saying that casual sex with multiple people isn't a must in order to find someone you're compatible with. And you seem to agree with that, so we can leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:45 PM
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I am not in fact as loose as a hallway. Oh, pardon me, that is not what I implied by ironically saying that they won't feel anything. I meant more in the psychological sense, since most men care about a woman's sexual past. Just wanted to make this clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:41 PM
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I've always found the idea of the past not mattering so silly. We literally are our past. There is not "present self" that is disconnected from the past. We are the culmination of our decisions up until this point. In the case of promiscuity: if a woman has slept around from when she was 16 y/o up until when she was 23, then that's who she is. Sure, she may choose not to be like that from then on, but: The past is the best predictor of the future. A woman who has displayed that kind of behavior …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:29 PM
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Women remain financially and socially hypergamous, although there are studies showing that female academic hypogamy is on the rise due to the fact that there are so many women more academically successful than their partners. It's why hyper-successful women keep complaining about not finding a man to date. Because they want guys who are at least or even more successful than they are. She can engage in sex as she pleases, but men won't suddenly stop having preferences for non-promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:23 PM
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That is a good argument against the idea that women who have slept around are intrinsically bad for relationships and all men should avoid them. It is not, however, a good argument against specific men having personal preferences that exclude those women. I'm all for the idea that people shouldn't be seen as forever "not-relationship-material" to every man because of their past. But there are definitely a lot of things in a woman's past that make them be "not-relationship-material" to me. A lot,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:19 PM
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I guess you're not familiar with hyperbole, aye? But keep slaying, queen. I'm sure that the guys you meet won't feel anything knowing that they're number 30 something, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:13 PM
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You stated that you've slept with 30+ men. That is like 4 standard deviations above the average. Compared to the average woman, you are "fucking everyone".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:10 PM
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No, you don't need to care about someone to make them cum And who said that? I said that a person who cares and communicates properly with you will most likely be able to make you cum. Supposing that you are physically attracted to him, of course. Also, of course you can be with only one person and be good. Be good for that person, which is all that matters. Anyway, my point is that promiscuity isn't a must for a person to find someone they're compatible with. But you can keep fucking whoever yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:04 PM
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communication doesn't mean shit if your partner isn't willing to listen and try I agree. Men who care about you are willing to listen and try, though, so you can simply pick a decent guy who cares about getting you off. Or you can keep fucking everyone under the sun until the stars align and you find a guy that gets you off. Whatever floats your boat, sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:57 PM
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People don't need to fuck multiple different people in order to make you cum. They need to communicate with and fuck you multiple times (supposing that they care about you) to find out what you like. This idea that a person is only "good at sex" when they have a high n-count is so absurd it's kinda laughable. A guy can be very good at fucking women hard, and the women who like that cum easily with him. Then he starts dating a woman who likes romantic sex and she hates having sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:54 PM
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Then maybe you have a condition that makes it harder for you to orgasm, I don't know you. My point is simply that you don't need to be promiscuous in order to find someone who satisfies your needs. You don't need to sleep around, you can find what you like with a person, explore it with that person, and if that relationship ends, you can communicate with words with people in the future. The idea that promiscuity is a must for women who want to have a satisfying sexual life is absurd IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:51 PM
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I don't disagree with the fact that you shouldn't marry before having sex with your to-be-spouse. But I don't think that having sex with multiple people is important in order for a person to be a good lover. At the end of the day, what matters is how compatible you and your partner are. Having had sex with multiple people who had different levels of compatibility with you wouldn't change anything from what I can see. Also, you can get become a good lover while in a relationship. What I want is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:47 PM
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What? Communication would work for both of you to discover what each one wants. That's my point. You can tell a person what you like and the person can tell you what he likes before having sex. The alternative proposed is to have sex with countless people until you meet someone who fits what you look for. Which can work for some, but it certainly isn't "the right way" for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:42 PM
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I'm not advocating for saving your virginity for marriage here. I'm saying that you don't need to be promiscuous in order to find a person you enjoy having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:40 PM
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That's a leading question. The importance of sex, and whether it's about bonding or just about having fun, depends on the person. Look into sociosexuality if you want to learn more. As for my personal experience: I lost my V card when I was about 23 y/o. I had lived my entire life up to that point as a hopeless romantic getting rejected by girls I fell in love with, always daydreaming about finding a woman I'd spend the rest of my life with etc. Then I realized that I might die without ever havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:45 AM
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You can communicate with words. You don't need to fuck multiple people until you find someone who matches your libido. Thankfully, most people understand this, otherwise all women would have a 20+ body count and I'd die single, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:25 AM
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A man who cares about you and has a healthy libido will obviously try to make you have an orgasm. For most women, orgasm isn't this magical thing that requires one being a sex god in order to be able to make a woman reach it. As much as women like to pretend that men are retarded, truth is that if the men you fuck don't give a shit about your orgasm, it is more likely than not that you're picking shitty guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:23 AM
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I think she's one of those people who when they hear a man say "I wouldn't date a woman with a high n-count", what they hear is "Women with high n-count are gross and any man who dates them is a cuck". Which, you know, are slightly different, but for some reason some women tend to think that they're equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:17 AM
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The equating is between lying about one's body count and lying about one's faithfulness. Of course being a single promiscuous woman isn't immoral, while cheating is. But lying about those things are equally immoral, because you don't get to choose what should matter to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:07 AM
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Women who lie about their body count are doing something immoral. It's not up to you to decide what is and what isn't a valid dealbreaker of other people. This is akin (and yeah, I know that that's already been said to you) to people who think it's justifiable to lie about cheating because "It won't happen again, no problem". At the end of the day, men are entitled to not want to date sluts. If a slut feels attacked because of that, then she can just not date that kind of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:58 PM
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👼 <= This is you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:42 PM
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Okay, Saint Ririsbaby. I'll strive to follow on your footsteps and become a virtuous human who doesn't write paragraphs, only sentences about people I'm shit talking. One sentence per shit talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:24 PM
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What the actual fuck are you on about? This is what I wrote: Isn't it amusing when a turboslut visits PPD and starts calling any man who cares about body count an incel? I can't be the only one who enjoys following these trainwreck comments. There's nothing being made up. She has said herself that she has lost count of how many people she's slept with, so she's a turboslut. She called men who care about body count incels. And I said I enjoy reading that. But I'm sure you are a paragon of virtue …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:11 PM
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LMAO! Oh, the sorority! I've responded directly to her comments. If I want to share a post/comment someone made here, there's no need to tag them, because my intention is to talk about the comment with other people. If I wanted her input, I'd respond to her directly, which I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 08:05 PM
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From what I've endured reading of what she wrote, she probably has a 30+ body count, is married, but is still insecure about the fact that men judge women who sleep around. It's such a curious thing. I'd expect women with large body counts to have made peace with the fact that by choosing to sleep around, many men will not see them as wife material. And she's also married, why the fuck would she care about what men think? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:42 PM
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Both sides (hyper-promiscuous people and virgins/people with low n-count) are constantly overdosing on copium. Promiscuous women, for example, want to believe that anyone who wouldn't date them for having a high n-count is an incel, insecure, secretly gay, has a small dick etc. Virgins/people with low n-count will try to rationalize the yuck factor, i.e. the feeling of "gross" that they have when thinking about dating someone promiscuous. So they'll say that it's because people with high n-count…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:34 PM
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What the fuck, I've seen you on two different threads screeching about how men who prefer women with low body counts are incels and sexist. You are the poster girl for insecurity about body count. And no, the fact that you're married and have a baby doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:26 PM
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Isn't it amusing when a turboslut visits PPD and starts calling any man who cares about body count an incel? I can't be the only one who enjoys following these trainwreck comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:21 PM
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So predictable, Jesus Christ. Some men have a restricted sociosexuality and are not interested in dating women who have an unrestricted sociosexuality. It's that simple. You don't care about body count? Cool. But you're not the arbiter of what is acceptable or not. Also, I've talked to many women here who care about the body count of their partners. Are they incels and sexist too? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:18 PM
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Q4M: what's your opinion on the key and lock analogy? You know, the one that compares a male slut to a master key, and a female slut to a lock that gets opened by any key, so it's a shitty lock. I've always found it silly if it's used to justify why it's okay for men to sleep around and at the same time only want to date women who don't. Since difficulty in doing something isn't something that implies any advantage IMO. For example, if a woman is naturally kind and it doesn't take her any effort…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:47 PM
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Guy outside of your house: "STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME A PRISONER OF YOUR HOUSE!!!" You: "Erm... You are not. You're not even inside my house" Guy outside of your house: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:39 PM
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Some guys being actually insecure doesn't change anything, though. If a woman gets offended when she hears that a guy wouldn't date her because she's slept around, she is insecure. That's not up for debate. If a woman is okay with the choices she's made, she doesn't care if a guy wouldn't date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:19 PM
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It's a thought experiment. I'm obviously assuming that I've been a good parent who raised her right and she still chose to do that. There are plenty of people like that. Johnny Sins was raised by conservative parents and ended up being, well, Johnny Sins.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:41 PM
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Yesterday I had a "conversation" here on PPD with someone who was pro elective abortions on the third trimester. She said that regardless of whether a woman wants to abort because it's a risk to her life or whether she just wants to look good in a bikini, it should always be a right. That's so insane to me. These people think women are literal goddesses who bestow the right of life unto a kid because it's in their womb, regardless of how old the kid is, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:39 PM
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Lol, what? Women have agency. You can do everything right and end up with a daughter on OnlyFans. I'd disown them in a heartbeat. I'd feel more like a pussy if I just accepted passing my inheritance onto someone who disregarded everything I've taught her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:48 PM
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Did I say that? Or did I say that there are women who do it because they find it easier? Seriously, stop being disingenuous. You originally said that no one with plenty of choices prostitutes themselves. That is objectively false, you know that. There are university students who don't need to, but still choose to be sugar babies because they want luxuries. Women aren't always the poor victims you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:43 PM
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It's non sequitur because your initial response didn't address my point, you basically started arguing that judging women for their sexual past is wrong, which isn't related to what I had originally said, which is that people project their insecurities. Interesting how you assume I must be a slut and projecting though because I’m female and don’t agree with you lmao. I’m drowning in the irony over here! I'd be right most of the time for assuming that, though. Most people who get butthurt at men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:46 AM
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Really? You actually believe that? You actually believe that all sugar babies do it because they're desperate? No sugar baby decided to do it because she sees it as an easier way to get money? That top OnlyFans creators who make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year are doing it out of desperation? You must be trolling me. Please be trolling me. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:19 AM
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So couldn’t you just turn that around and say the same thing about the man demanding a virgin. He’s just angry all these “sluts who fuck everyone won’t fuck him” No, that is not at all related with what I've said, just a non sequitur. What I said is that people who get angry at other people having standards that exclude them are usually insecure. Men who aren't interested in dating sluts aren't angry at sluts not wanting to fuck them, they legitimately don't want to date sluts, lol. Some actual …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:03 AM
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If the guys you end up dating are men to whom you feel as attracted as the random hook-ups, then yeah, no "participation trophy" there. But if it's more a case of "he's not that hot, but he is husband material", then I'm pretty sure most men would see it as getting a participation trophy. The whole idea of not feeling like you were the "winner" is that you end up dating a woman who was more attracted to other men, but either couldn't get them to commit, or the guys were bums/not serious and she …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:37 AM
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Lol, you can't genuinely believe that in the age of OnlyFans and sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:31 AM
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Hm, but what about an elective abortion on the 8th month? The baby could live outside of the womb. Do you support an abortion in this case? Do you not see it as murder in this case? Or is it murder, but you just find it okay for women to murder under those circumstances?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:30 AM
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Do people find it unacceptable for someone to disown a daughter who chose to become a sex worker (of her own volition, when she had plenty of other choices)? Cuz I'm pretty sure I'd do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:05 AM
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Are you pro elective abortions on the third trimester?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:00 AM
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The average man could sleep with women he wants if he just treated women like human beings and not like prey to be caught and won Do you actually believe that? If so, you really have no clue what it's like for an average man, lol. The average man just wants an average woman who meets his needs and the same goes for average women. I disagree. There are multiple reasons to believe that the average woman has a higher standard than the average man. Women tend to consider the truly average man ugly. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:22 AM
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Only if you believe that women are sleeping around and rejecting the romantic advances of the men they sleep with, eventually selecting a man that they're attracted to and also thinks would be a good life partner. Which I guess does happen, but in a lot of cases, these women are sleeping with men out of their league (for relationships), and eventually settle for a guy that is good enough. In that case, it would be a participation trophy to be with that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:05 AM
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Didn't you know it's in our biology to mate with the best males? That's not what "best males" mean from a biological standpoint, lol. It's not about fucking loads of men and selecting who's best in bed. I hope you're joking. I know men do this so why is it a problem when women do it A minority of men do that. The average man doesn't have the option to just sleep with lots of women because he feels like it. Especially nowadays, with male sexlessness on the rise. How can you truly know you are sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:03 AM
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Lol, why the fuck would a man need to deconstruct his preferences? He finds it gross. That should be enough reason. He doesn't have to go to therapy or meditate to try to be interested in dating a slut. And I say this because I have been a guy who tried to "learn that it's not that big of a deal to date a woman who slept around", and it was hell. Definitely not recommended.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:58 AM
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Based username, fellow Brazilian (I assume?).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:55 AM
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I've found that most people who call others insecure when it comes to relationship stuff are indeed just projecting. Like promiscuous women who start seething and calling a man insecure, immature, small-dicked etc when they hear the guy say that he wouldn't date a woman with a high n-count. They're insecure themselves about being rejected for being sluts, so they start hurling insults at men. People who have no insecurity about themselves when it comes to dating don't care if other people exclud…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:53 AM
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But there is a reason for that disgust, though. It's not about anything physical like thinking that a promiscuous woman's vagina is loose or anything like that (although there are some idiots who do think that). The revulsion is in regards to the things that she has done with other men. Knowing that she is the kind of woman who did things like that. For example, most men would find it revolting to imagine the women they love fucking some fat old man for money. Or getting spitroasted by two frat …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:27 AM
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I think your BF just has the default point of view of most men. In that they find it okay for they themselves to have casual sex, but find the idea of marrying a slut gross. I'd wager that he's just rationalizing this feeling that he has post hoc. As in, he feels grossed out when he thinks about marrying you if you had a high body count, and then he conjures up reasons as to why that is. But in the end, he just finds it gross, because he sees women with high body counts as "not relationship mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:54 AM
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Adult women are way too infantilized nowadays, even by people who claim to be feminists. It isn't uncommon to see people treating women as if they have less capability to make choices, or less agency in general, than men. The cliché example of this is: "A man and a woman get drunk and fuck, the woman later says that she felt like he took advantage of her, and even the people who saw that both of them were drunk will be on her side". I'd wager that a considerable portion of promiscuous women even…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:37 AM
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You're assuming that those guys are talking about the same women. Plenty of guys see sluts as not relationship material while still hooking up with them. Not a nice way of thinking IMO, but it is common. I don't think it's common for a man to say that women should fuck them on their first date. What is common, however, is that if a woman makes you wait when she has been a woman who slept quickly with other guys before you, you should probably not want to date her. The ideal for many men is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:29 PM
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I mean, he did say it was an "ideal woman". It's not supposed to be realistic. If I were to think about an "ideal woman" to me, I'd probably end up describing someone who is almost impossible to exist. And even if she existed, it'd be certain that she'd be in a relationship already with some gigachad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:24 PM
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Question to Americans: is this "exclusivity talk" thing really that common over there? It's a very common point raised by Americans in subs like r/relationship_advice. For example: a guy gets mad that his GF fulfilled a rape fantasy with a stranger while she "wanted to take things slow" with him, and then lots of people say that she did nothing wrong, that he should get over it, that they "weren't exclusive yet", etc. That sounds very weird to me. If you're talking to me and saying that you want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:09 PM
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Or you can, you know, understand that you don't need to know 100% of everything in order to deduce something. Which every human does every day of his life. A woman dumps a broke man. The broke man becomes rich. The woman who dumped him runs after him. Is it a guarantee that she only came back to him because of his money? No. Is it reasonable to assume that that influenced her decision? Yes. But if you want to keep acting like that's totally unfair and unreasonable, then go ahead, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:13 PM
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Sure, you can be ultra charitable and say that we don't know for sure what were her reasons. But I prefer to say that if a woman dumps a broke guy and then run after him once he's rich and successful, then it is very likely that him becoming rich and successful influenced her decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:55 PM
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Lol, reconnecting isn't a crazy concept to me. The main thing here is that she dumped him when he wasn't rich nor successful and magically found her way back to him when he was now rich and successful. The fact that she got pregnant from another dude is just the cherry on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:59 PM
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The most apt analogy to me is rich people telling poor people that money doesn't buy happiness. It's just silly. If you're in a privileged position, unless you properly study "the other side" to empathize with them, don't spew empty platitudes that don't apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:54 PM
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Sure. All kinds of people exist. I do find it pathetic, but I don't do anything other than laugh at it. Some guys do seethe about it, which is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:00 PM
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VERY TELLING that you take the suggestion of being gay as an insult. i don’t think it’s an insult but good to know you do. classic homophobia. LMAO. I wouldn't be able to be as dishonest as you even if I tried. Nice try, though, try to make it seem like me understanding your homophobia is actually homophobia. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:53 PM
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Cuz it's fun to them. I'm sure you find some things fun while others find stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:51 PM
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I'd just like to share what I posted in a thread but that'll probably be buried and not read by many people. I think it's an interesting story: There's a guy who is famous in the bodybuilding scene here in Brazil. His name is Paulo Muzy. He's an incredibly successful medical doctor, has an amazing shape, very smart, well spoken, handsome, 6'1 tall, a multi-millionaire, famous, etc. He is also a pathetic beta in the eyes of many men. He is married, but he used to date his current wife before gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:22 PM
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I don't know what you mean, finding a person less attractive doesn't imply any sort of moral judgement. It can be for moral reasons, sure, but moral reasons aren't the only ones that can exist. Attraction and morality are orthogonal concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:14 PM
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I'm merely presenting a case of what I think is the fantasy of many women. A guy who is an "alpha" in the eyes of many, who could have any woman that he wants, and who chose a woman who had dumped him when he wasn't rich nor successful, who had a baby from another man and then came back to him, when he was conveniently rich and successful. If you don't see how that can be seen as a bad choice by the man, then you're simply incapable of empathizing with men. Also: and some men are more worried ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:11 PM
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Sure, show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:01 PM
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So if a high body count man doesn't want to date a high body count woman, but not for moral reasons, is it fine in your opinion? Say he simply isn't attracted to the idea of dating a woman who sleeps around, but he makes no moral judgements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:20 PM
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Interesting answer. But I wonder: are you comparing the same things here? Does that Asian guy really struggle to get casual relationships, or does he complain about not being able to find good LTRs? I ask this because a woman having many options on Tinder simply means that she can fuck a lot of guys. That Kevin Krieder probably doesn't struggle to get hook-ups, I think. Regardless, yeah, that is indeed a common thing in general. Indian men, for example, have it insanely hard when it comes to dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:06 AM
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Good answer, thanks, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:01 AM
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There's a guy who is famous in the bodybuilding scene here in Brazil. His name is Paulo Muzy. He's an incredibly successful medical doctor, has an amazing shape, very smart, well spoken, handsome, 6'1 tall, a multi-millionaire, famous, etc. He is also a pathetic beta in the eyes of many men. He is married, but he used to date his current wife before getting married. She broke up with him when they were just dating (when he wasn't rich and successful), had a baby from another man, and around a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:18 AM
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Lol, have you ever seen a woman say something like that, or is that hyperbole? Cuz the explanation that I've seen some women give for that is that they want to ensure that the relationship guy isn't secretly a jerk. Which to me is stupid, because they don't do that to a guy who is clearly a jerk, but do to a guy who might be decent. Basically rewarding a POS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:10 AM
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After reading some of the responses ITT, I understand a bit more why being raised by a single mother can suck as a guy, LOL. But that's life, it's highly unlikely that women can understand the experiences of men, and vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:42 PM
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Kinda old news apparently, but did you guys see this case in LinkedIn? Basically, a whore being proud to be a whore and acting as if it's like any other work. Funny how I've seen people argue that the push to treat sex work like any other work is only from terminally on-line Twitter folks, and then there's this post on LinkedIn of all places. I predict that in one decade people will treat "not interested in dating prostitutes" like it's a horrible dating standard for men to have, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:03 AM
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That is literally racist in its self not liking how someone’s eyes are shaped is just racist This is what I was addressing. Regardless of what you wrote in your original comment, which I did read, this is something that I disagree with, hence my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:22 PM
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But... It's attraction. You don't control what you're attracted to. Just like a gay man can't control that he isn't attracted to women, a man can just not be attracted to the eyes of Japanese women, or to the skin color of white or black people. I think you're conflating anything related to race with racism, which is quite nonsensical to me. A person can think that a race is more aesthetically pleasing than another without passing any judgement onto that race. Racism is about seeing a race as in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:00 PM
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Please elaborate, what would be an example of that? I'd agree if it was a systematic thing, like the entire society saying that that preference is the correct one. But I fail to see how a personal standard/dealbreaker is immoral, except for obvious ones like wanting to date children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:51 PM
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Saying "I'll never date people from X race" does indeed sound weird to me, but still, people can simply not be attracted to a characteristic that most people from that race share. For example, a person can be not attracted to how the eyes of Japanese women generally look. Sure, not all Japanese women will have the typical Japanese eyes, but the vast majority will. At the end of the day, I think it depends way more on the motivation behind a person's words. If it's just about attraction, I see no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 02:33 PM
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All around the world most men care about body count. You are probably the one with a skewed sense of reality, my guess is you live in a very progressive city and think the entire world is like that. I I had to guess, when you consider men from around the globe, less than 10% genuinely "are not so hung up on it". Those men tend to be from very progressive places, and also be sexually successful. But the average man in almost every single country isn't interested in dating promiscuous women. Obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:26 AM
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Lol, there will always be people who complain about the preferences of others. I've had a lot of people REEEEE at me because I say that a woman's sexual past can be a dealbreaker to me. I just ignore it. As we say over here in my country, "the dogs bark and the caravan passes by".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:16 AM
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In a sense the concept of standards itself could be construed as immoral as it puts people into boxes, sometimes being used to disqualify people for factors outside of their control. The natural process of love and romance can become tainted and artificial. But dating isn't supposed to be fair, is it? Dating is probably the thing in which we are most discriminatory. A tall handsome guy with a happy personality just got lucky with his genetics. A short ugly guy with depression got unlucky. The fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:14 AM
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Do you mean that almost everyone you meet tends to not want to date people from your race? That sounds kinda weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:12 AM
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Religious men usually want submissive women, since religions tend to be patriarchal. Do you think that then it's always bad for men like that to want to date a religious woman who also subscribes to the belief that women should be submissive in a relationship? Assuming that they're not forced by society to be like that, mind you. Not talking about a theocracy, just a usual democratic western country. It'd obviously be immoral if women didn't have the option to not be submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:11 AM
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Really? I think it can be for racist reasons, sure, but not necessarily. You can just think that people from a certain race are more physically attractive. Not much different from preferring thin women over fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:07 AM
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Unless you think that Redditors are also "loud Twitter people", it seems like it's not really a fringe way of thinking. There are plenty of threads about that here on Reddit, and many trans people seem to express it like this: it's fine if you don't want to date a specific trans person, but it's transphobic to say that you would not date any trans woman, because you are acting like all trans women are the same. Which is a BS argument, obviously. Saying that you don't want to date fat people does…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:04 AM
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I guess your point is that fetishization is bad, not the racial preferences per se. Which I think most people would agree with, I've never seen someone say that fetishization is cool, lol. But yeah, plenty of people sadly still fetishize groups. Asian women are the one group that I think suffers the most from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:56 AM
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However, I find that possibly the worst standard to be men or women who won’t date someone because that person is a rape victim. There are sadly too many people who have this disgusting “standard”. I wouldn't call it a standard, but I can certainly see an amoral reason for that: the person doesn't want to deal with the trauma. Same logic applies to people who don't want to date someone who has mental issues. Again, calling it a "standard" is quite disgusting to me, but it doesn't seem like an in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:54 AM
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What, how is that my goal? Lol. Thinking that something is shameful and expressing it doesn't imply that you want the world to stop being like that. I respect people's right to live their lives however they see fit. That doesn't mean that I respect people's choices, though. Choosing to be a sex worker when you have other options is shameful from my POV, but I wouldn't impose that onto other people. Frankly, I've had some conversations with you here and you always come off as someone who has the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:23 PM
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> Land whale Body shaming, indeed a shitty thing, but happens everywhere and won't stop. Women talk about a man having a small dick when they want to shame him, or make fun of his height, etc. > town bicycle, ran through Yeah, it's pejorative. Men who say that look down on promiscuous women. > for the streets Not necessarily related to promiscuity, may be related to a woman's immoral attitude, like cheating. At the end of the day, most men have some sort of disgust towards the idea of committing…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:17 PM
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Absolutely untrue. Many women get mad when they see random men they don't even know saying that they wouldn't date sluts. Even women who aren't sluts get annoyed at that sometimes. Men also care about things that are said about men even if it's said by women they don't want to date. It's a normal human behavior to care about what people say about your group. Women are not these stoic beings that are unaffected by what other people think. Quite the opposite, I'd argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:02 PM
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I mean, things like the "cock carousel", "alpha fucks beta bucks", "alpha widow" etc are generalizations of things that in real life aren't so cut and dry to explain. I'd say that in general, when a guy says something like "the woman was riding the cock carousel during her twenties and now wants a serious relationship", he's imagining a woman who had a period in her life during which she focused on having sex as something just for fun, with no actual commitment or care about her future with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:39 PM
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Lol! Yeah, you also can't convince me that the Earth is flat or that the moon landing was fake. But I guess I'm just a silly stubborn horse who doesn't accept "the truth", huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:24 PM
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Thanks, mate! I also hope so, but I'm not really holding my breath, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:22 PM
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Yeah, mate, but that's not attraction. It's admiration. It's pure delusion to think that women in general feel genuinely attracted to fat, bald and ugly men as long as the men are rich and successful. Mind you, I'm not saying that that can't play a role in a woman's attraction. That'd be stupid of me. I'm saying that physical attraction is just as important to women as it is to men. Most women would much rather fuck a hot broke guy than a fat ugly rich guy, assuming that sex is the only thing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:27 AM
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I've watched too much romance anime and read too much romance manga, and ended up becoming a hyper-romantic guy. My mother used to tell me that even when I was a little kid, like 8 y/o, she would tell me random stories to make me sleep about heroes and monsters, and I'd always shoehorn a love interest in the story so that I could enjoy it more, lol. It's very common for me to daydream about romantic situations, about how nice it'd be to build a family with a woman I love, things like that. Kinda…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:48 AM
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Lol, sorry, but you can't convince me that you can look at a fat ugly man and feel wet because you know he's rich. Unless you have some weird psychological condition. Physical attraction is important to women's sexual attraction. The fact that you're willing to sacrifice that attraction in order to get access to a man's resources doesn't change that you don't feel attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:32 AM
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Americans being stupid and fat, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:09 AM
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But is it actually attraction though? I don't think women feel genuinely attracted to fat ugly rich men. They just tolerate them, but I doubt they get wet or have orgasms thinking about how thick his wallet is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:08 AM
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That's because they can get hot cock for free. Which is why older women pay for it. Also, my point is that women don't get attracted to a guy cuz he's rich. They just want the resources, but the attraction doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:02 AM
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That makes sense. Another reason for me to avoid dating promiscuous women if that's the case, lol. I wouldn't want to be with someone who would actually prefer it if they could go around fucking other people while dating me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:59 AM
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Sure, but that's a sacrifice they're making. Women don't become attracted to a fat ugly old man because he's rich, some of them are simply willing to fuck that guy to get access to his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:55 AM
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I think you're talking about something entirely different. The point of that thread isn't that people give up on having sex with multiple people. It's that many people treat sex as something entirely banal, enter a relationship and suddenly sex is something special that should be cherished and saved for their SOs. And then if they break up, it's back to Tinder and to fucking randos. It's about how sex has some conditional value, which is the weird part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:54 AM
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Man, I saw some RP video about how women care about money more than about looks, that typical stuff. It basically showed an ultra-hot woman and some fat rich fuck (it's in Portuguese, but here's the video in case someone wants to see the couple in question, timestamp 00:10). The woman is insane even for Brazilian standards, lol. But anyway, the bizarre thing to me was that in the comments, many guys were saying retarded stuff about how women's libido works differently than men's. How they care l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:50 AM
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The idea that it's a compromise kinda makes sense. Way more sense than sex suddenly becoming sacred when you enter a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:38 AM
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Lol, not all women are into fucking randos.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:37 AM
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So you think it's a compromise? That'd make more sense then what most people are proposing, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:37 AM
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Sure, but that's not the point of the OP. The point isn't that sex can feel better with someone you love. The point is that if sex is something banal that you can have with strangers, then what's the logic of making it exclusive when you enter a relationship? Just get in an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:36 AM
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...what? Lol. That literally addresses nothing. Yeah, people can do what they want, but their actions can be logically inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:35 AM
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The point of the OP is that monogamy itself, i.e. sexual exclusivity, doesn't make much sense if a person sees sex as something entirely banal that they can have with strangers. Why be monogamous then? Just have open relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 01:34 AM
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This thread here on PPD, which I sadly missed, touched upon a subject that I had always thought about, which is that promiscuous people who are monogamous when entering a relationship make no sense to me. And from what I could see, there was no proper argument against it. It seems to me like it's just cognitive dissonance. People want to both enjoy sex as something banal and to enjoy sex as something special when in a relationship. Which is fine, to each their own, but I'd personally never be in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:58 PM
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Oh, man, I missed this thread. This is something that I had always thought about. Promiscuous people who also happen to be monogamous make no sense to me. It'd be one thing if a person had been promiscuous in the past and then regretted it, changed and decided to be strictly monogamous from then on, never ever hooking up again. But what we see is people fucking strangers from Tinder left and right, starting a relationship, wanting monogamy, breaking up, going back to fucking strangers, ad nausea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:47 PM
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It is degenerate, yeah, and I do watch it, but I do know that it is a shitty habit. But obviously watching it isn't nearly as serious a thing as actually doing it. Not many women would see having watched porn as a deal breaker, many men would see having done porn as a deal breaker, though. As for having sex with prostitutes, yeah, they should be be honest with women about having done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:34 PM
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Was she upfront about having done that? Though tbh, I'm more interested in knowing the experiences of sex workers who have actual sex with people for money. There are probably way more guys who are willing to wife up strippers or OF models than pornstars or prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 09:28 PM
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That's so disgusting, man. Women like that are actual scum. I despise people who think that they can choose for other people what should matter in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 09:24 PM
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I wouldn't sleep with a sex worker but that basically weeds out the majority of attractive women since it's seriously the vast majority of them that have done it. Wait, do you actually believe that? That the majority of attractive women have done sex work? Cuz I don't see how that can be true, lol. Unless you're talking about a very specific group of people from some hyper-progressive city. That being said, I don't really see much difference between sex work and simple promiscuity. A slut who sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 08:55 PM
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Oh, absolutely, I don't buy into the delusion that sex workers can't find LTRs. But it is undeniable that a woman who is a sex worker shrinks her dating pool considerably. The vast majority of men would not take a (former) sex worker seriously, especially if the sex work involved actual sex with multiple guys. So my question is more related to how they see their future. As I said, I don't think that they can genuinely expect being sex workers to not affect their dating life, but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 08:21 PM
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Does anyone here have friendships with sex workers? I've always been curious about how they see themselves in the future, particularly when it comes to romantic relationships. Do most of them simply think "I don't care about staying single for the rest of my life"? Or is the majority simply willing to lie about and hide their past degeneracy so that they can have normal dating lives? I've heard that that's fairly common. I refuse to believe that most sex workers are so naive that they genuinely …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 08:05 PM
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Some Red Pill content is on a front page post, and a lot of comments are agreeing with it. Very curious. Seems like even normies agree with the wall to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:32 PM
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In all the discussions of men vs women, the stupidest trope is the fact that both men and women want to make the other seem worse with some generalization. "Men cheat more!", "No, women lie about cheating more, so they can actually be cheating more than men!", "But women only cheat if there's something missing", "Men only cheat because of their libido and still love their wives!" etc. "Women don't know true loneliness", "Men are pigs for thinking that just because a woman can have access to sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:20 PM
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Enjoying something doesn't mean that you want to do it for an entire weekend, lol, what an absurd exaggeration. I was simply stating that some people do enjoy cleaning, I know a woman who has told me that out of all the house chores that exist, washing clothes is her favorite one. And no, not using a washing machine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:13 PM
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Eh, some people do. It takes their mind off of other things. But it is much rarer than enjoying cooking, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:06 PM
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harmless Lol. A man who gets involved with one of them will certainly have a lot of examples to counter that. They are misandrists pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:02 PM
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As far as I know, there are no scientific studies that prove that any of that "pair bonding due to sex" thing applies to humans. It's like telegony (females passing onto their offspring genes from previous partners): something that exists in other animals, and disingenuous (or just ignorant) people contort it in a way that makes it seem like it also applies to humans. Mind you, I think it's fine to be repulsed by female promiscuity. I myself do feel disgusted at promiscuous women, especially hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:08 AM
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First of all, not all parasocial relationships are created equal, nor are they something that only started with the internet. I recommend anyone interested in parasocial relationships to read the original article of the guy who invented the term, it's pretty easy to read, and you can find it here. Anyway, one thing I really dislike about streamer culture is how they get rich off of lonely fucks and then complain about those same lonely fucks creating parasocial relationships with the streamers. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:45 AM
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Is r/WitchesVsPatriarchy the worst sub on Reddit? Rhetorical question, we all know that it is. I pity any man who dates a frequent visitor of that sub, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:33 AM
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Well, obviously everyone has something in their past, but I'd much rather know if a person has done something that I consider to be a dealbreaker instead of being blissfully ignorant about it. Case in point, I care about whether a woman has been promiscuous in her past or not. I'd rather know that than end up dating a former slut thinking that she didn't sleep around. But of course, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:27 AM
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I'd rather know serious shit like this than not know it tbh. I don't really believe in "Ignorance is bliss" when it comes to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:54 PM
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...what? What are you even saying? I said that there are tons of people who are telling OP to drop her. I'm pointing out the fact that a lot of people seem to find it acceptable to say that "she was just a kid" is a reasonable thing to say about a serial rapist who is a woman. But that I highly doubt that those people would feel the same about a male serial rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:25 PM
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Did you guys see this thread on TIFU? Basically, guy is gonna marry a woman who raped multiple younger boys when she was younger. The interesting part about the thread is how there are so many people being supportive of the woman, that what she did when she was young isn't determinant of who she is now etc. Not gonna be disingenuous, there are tons of people who are telling OP to drop her. But there are also comments with dozens of upvotes telling him to offer her support and keep dating her. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:03 PM
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Yup. Tell a feminist who thinks that men should pay for dates that you think that that's fine "as long as the woman is a virgin" and watch the world collapse. Obviously, I don't think that. I'm just pointing out the ridiculous double standards that so many so-called feminists like to hold. Keep the advantages of being a woman and throw away anything that doesn't suit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 10:19 PM
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So here in Brazil, a famous actor went viral for simply stating that he doesn't like the idea of being supposed to pay for a date just because he's a man, during a podcast. He also said "You're not my daughter, why should I provide for you?" and some women got very butthurt at that sentence. It's funny to see how blue-pilled most people are. He said such a normal thing IMO. He even made it clear that he usually pays for the women he goes out with, he just hates the idea of a man being supposed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:30 PM
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That is indeed another option. I personally don't really trust people about body counts because I know that a lot of people lie about such things, because "it doesn't matter" (lol). But there are women who don't hook up. It's just difficult to be sure if a woman you're into is one of those, or is just faking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:33 AM
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Interesting point. I'd never thought about that, but yeah. Sociosexuality is more about values than about what a person actually does. There are plenty of guys who, if they had the opportunity, would have insanely high body counts. Imagine guys having the option to fuck a different pornstar every day. Most would take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:31 AM
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What I mean is that people can do whatever they want regardless of what I personally think is best for them. Of course people can't literally do whatever they want, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:01 AM
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A concept that exists in sociology is that of sociosexuality. Sociosexuality refers to the willingness that an individual has to engage in uncommitted sexual relationships. Someone with an unrestricted sociosexuality is willing to have sex with no commitment with no problem. ONSs, Tinder randos etc. Someone with restricted sociosexuality is only interested in having sex within committed relationships. I'm saying this because I think this recognized distinction in how people see sex is very impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:23 AM
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It’s borderline predatory for people in their 40s to be dating college-aged kids (18-20) Sure. Not what I talked about though. 25 year old men and women are full-fledged adults. And it’s kind of shitty to ghost people Not if it was a random hook-up, like I said. There's nothing immoral about not responding to someone you didn't know 2 days ago. And I say this being someone who doesn't do hook-ups. My point being, the infantilization of women is very common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:09 AM
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When I talk about infantilizing women (I can only speak for myself), I'm usually talking about treating women like they have no autonomy, decisional capacity, etc That's something very noticeable everywhere. Even people who call themselves feminists sometimes love to act like women don't have agency. If a man decides to hook up with a random woman and she ghosts him, no one bats an eye (including the guy). If the genders are reversed, the guy is an asshole who used her etc etc. If a 25 goddamn y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:11 AM
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Lots of times the women DOES have feelings for the guy Not what I was talking about though. I was directly referring to the part of the comment that said "Because if you didn't like them and they used you for sex, it's "that fucking asshole, (whine whine whine), but forgotten in 2ish weeks.". Keywords in bold. You're talking about something completely different. Of course, if a guy pretends to want to date a woman, pretends that he likes her, she falls in love with him, and his only intentions a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:58 AM
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Oh, okay, so when a woman says she was "used" by a man and says that he's an asshole for it, she isn't at all victimizing herself, right? Lol, please. You really like your hamstering.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:05 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that feeling hurt is victimizing yourself, sorry if it came off like that. My snarky remark was because she was talking about "being used for sex", which is to me some clear victimization. If you want sex, a guy wants sex, you don't have feelings for each other, both have sex and then the man dips, you can feel hurt, sure, but he used you as much as you used him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 11:01 PM
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And yes, the guy isn't an asshole for not wanting to see her again Good, then we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:29 PM
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No, not really. If the woman has no feelings for the guy and chose to have sex with him, she made a conscious decision as an adult. There are not feelings involved. No one is at fault. Women aren't children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:27 PM
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My first GF tried to do that to me. I knew that she had had sex with some fuckboys easily before me, and then with me it was all "let's take it slow" etc. I didn't really accept that and just said that we should stop seeing each other (this was before we had actually become BF/GF). She ended up backtracking her actions and we hooked up and I lost my virginity. Her logic was basically that she wanted to ensure that I was actually interested in dating her. Makes sense tbh, it's just shitty from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:12 PM
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It's Schrödinger's feminism. Women are simultaneously empowered and victims, and what collapses the wave function is the consequence of their actions. They fuck a guy they don't like just for fun (empowerment), but if the guy ends up being someone who just saw her as a fleshlight she was used by an asshole who disregarded her feelings (victimization). Truth is, both used each other, there were no feelings involved, and neither are assholes if they don't want to se the other ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:05 PM
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Men who are in terrible economic position participate in work that destroys their body and mental health. Women don’t have access to those physical labour jobs. Most women have other options. I am talking about women who choose to do sex work when they could have chosen other paths in life. And you keep trying to make it seem like I'm saying that women with no other options, raped women and victims of sex trafficking are the ones I'm talking about. Talk about engaging a subject in bad faith, Jes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:54 PM
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Wow, it's interesting that she'd say that. What was her rationale for thinking that? That she would have been less experienced in that case? That she'd have chosen a different path in life if she had started dating you young?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:07 AM
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Yup, he was nice to her. He knew it was easy to pump and dump her, but he liked her as a person and decided to just be friends. He even told me that she is one of the most marriage material women he knows, he only doesn't date her because of her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:54 AM
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If you don’t have the same economic situation as the women you’re disparaging you really are in no position to have such judgment towards them. Please. Men who are in terrible economic situations don't end up being sex workers most of the time, they find other jobs and do what they can. Don't act like some pampered sugar baby who fucks old men in order to buy a car is some victim of society. Again: the sex workers who willingly choose to be sex workers disgust me. If a woman is forced or has no …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:47 AM
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It’s mostly the men that have extreme disgust for sex workers who are their main clients and who regularly abuse them. Youll see this disgust manifest more in how the murder of sex workers is rarely seen as significant. Lol, why do you keep trying to attack me like that? No, I don't use the services of sex workers. And the murdering of innocent women is obviously not something I condone. Ignoring the fact that calling sex work a “choice” is being wilfully ignorant to how global sex trafficking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:33 AM
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A friend of mine (29) who I'd consider a Chadlite had an interesting experience tangentially related to the red pill. He met this woman that was very attractive, successful etc who was totally into him. It was either through Tinder or mutual friends, I don't recall. But anyway, she was throwing herself at him, hinting that they'd be sleeping with each other soon etc. This after just 2 or 3 dates or something like that. He parried her attacks, though. Rejected her advances and just stayed as frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:24 AM
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Cheating is probably the most hated non-criminal thing a person can do, lol. But yeah, stories about cheating end up being showered with angry responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:12 AM
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Having consensual sex with another adult is morally neutral, you are not better or worse than someone in any way of form for having consensual sex, believing otherwise is disturbing. That's just your opinion, though. We can have different views on sex. I find promiscuous women repulsive, regardless of how consensual the sex they have is. Sex workers, for example, disgust me completely. And yes, I'd think the same about a man, if I were interested in dating men. As for the rest, suffice it to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:09 AM
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Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:01 AM
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When I read a story about a guy forgiving a woman who's cheated on him, I get very angry. It's really weird, cuz it shouldn't matter to me, but it just annoys me a lot when I imagine a woman cheating on her bf/husband and then not facing the proper consequences for her actions. When I read a story about a woman forgiving a guy who's cheated on her, I feel pity, not really anger. I wonder if that's common? During childhood I saw my mother suffer for being cheated on by my father, and it was alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:14 AM
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That's a very uncharitable interpretation of what people mean when they talk about purity, tbh. Sure, it can mean naiveté and gullibility. But those aren't really choices. A person who is naive didn't choose to be naive, life just hasn't thrown at their faces something to force them to not be naive. I don't see purity like that, I see it more as a personal choice. A sex worker, for example, willingly sacrifices her sexual purity for monetary gain. But many people keep their sexual purity because…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:08 AM
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That's... a pretty good argument, actually. I'd never thought about it, but it's true: many people go on and on about how detrimental porn is to men, but they celebrate women being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:02 AM
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I find the word purity completely acceptable. I have lost that purity, it's not like it's something that I only apply to women, mind you. It's no different from the idealistic purity that teenagers have when it comes to certain aspects of life, and most of them end up losing that purity as they experience the harsh aspects of existence. Of course, sexual purity is not the end-all-be-all of romantic relationships. But it's still something that is understandably valued by many people, men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:11 PM
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What it implies is that many men like the idea of being a woman's first. "Sexual purity" is simply a word to describe the idea that a person hasn't had sexual experiences before. Everything will be brand new, and many men value that. I've lost my virginity to a woman who was very sexually experienced. It was frustrating to me that everything was so special to me while to her it was just Tuesday. Different strokes for different folks, obviously. But there's nothing wrong with men (or women) valui…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:14 PM
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Mate choice cares about fertility and youth, and that’s it. Says who, exactly? There are plenty of factors that come into play when it comes to mate choices. And my argument is that the mate choices of men and women differ significantly, and that that wouldn't change much in a completely fair world. Also, I obviously don't mean that women "lust after credit scores", don't be disingenuous. I mean that from an evolutionary standpoint, women had a reason to select for stability. It's evident even n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:39 PM
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Lol, I don't venerate male sluts. I wouldn't date a promiscuous man, if I were interested in dating men. My point is that there's no logic in expecting a man interested in dating women to have the same disgust for male sluts as they do for female sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:29 PM
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Is your argument that men would value youthfulness less in a completely equal society? Or that women would start being able to also select for youthfulness in such a society? I assume it's the latter, because the former frankly makes no sense to me. Men feel more interested in young women because they're the most attractive women, in general. So, assuming it's the latter, let's imagine this perfectly equal society. A 40 year old woman can choose between a 20 year old handsome but broke young man…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:48 AM
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Do you think most women cheat, then? Since most women are bombarded with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:37 AM
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As with all things in the manosphere, people tend to look at the extremes as the only possibilities. The Wall™ is either something completely real and all women end up hitting it, or it's a revenge fantasy and it's absolutely made-up incel bullshit. IMHO, it's a real thing that gets blown out of proportion. It is obvious that most women will get more positive male attention when they are 21 years old than when they are 40 years old. Assuming that the woman is single and wants that kind of attent…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:34 AM
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That's the question that women who make complaints like that never stop to think about, lol. "Oh, you care about women's sexual past but don't care if a man has been promiscuous? That's misogynistic!" Duh, if the guy isn't interested in dating men, he has no reason to give a shit about male promiscuity. I understand not liking guys who are hypocrites and look down on women who are promiscuous while being promiscuous themselves. But this isn't that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:22 AM
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Q4All: do you guys think most people cheat at least once in their lives? Or are most people faithful throughout their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:17 AM
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Like baristas, waitresses etc? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:47 PM
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Q4M: Other than sex work, are there any professions that make you think twice before getting romantically involved with a woman who has them? Like nurses, lawyers etc. I feel like that regarding lawyers. Dunno, just can't trust them. People from the entertainment industry, like singers and actresses, too. But those are rarer to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:25 PM
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I'll preface this with me saying that I think Andrew Tate is very much a loser and the personification of the retarded "alpha male". But holy shit is it entertaining to watch him interact with normal people. Have you guys seen that Grilling episode with him? Basically a Youtube series with a woman going on dates with guys and "grilling" them. He spews so much toxic retardation and the woman just stays there, flabbergasted, LMAO. I'd pay good money to see the reaction of r/WitchesVsPatriarchy pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:05 PM
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Oh, lol. Yeah, doesn't make much sense in the West. Maybe in some countries that would apply. Like countries where hook-up culture is almost non-existent and the usual way things go is something like: multiple dates with nothing physical => asks to be official => sex. Pretty sure that that's the norm in Japan, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:06 AM
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The kind of guy who should probably just be in an open relationship or stay single and fuck whoever he can. Why a man would marry a non-nympho when he has that kind of insane libido, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:04 AM
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Honestly, the only prediction I can make with some certainty is that sociosexuality will become increasingly more unrestricted, i.e. people will become more comfortable with casual sex. Which may also make certain fringe things like open relationships more normalized. That's about it. I don't think that there's any dating apocalypse happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:57 AM
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I find it entertaining. It's like the women who say that they'll start only having sex with a guy if she's sure that he'll take care of a kid if she ends up pregnant, preferably if they're in a committed relationship. Like, jeez, Becky, fascinating concept you've come up with right there. You've sure owned those loser conservatives with your responsible way of having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:51 AM
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What the fuck does that sentence even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:47 AM
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I'm pretty sure that birth rates will keep declining. No idea what the future will be like, though. Maybe something like Brave New World? Lab-made kids. No clue, really. Will be fun to watch it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:46 AM
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Oh, so what you actually intended to say wasn't "Nobody thinks this", it's "I don't think that this will ever happen". Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:42 AM
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How can you say that nobody thinks something? Lol. Pray tell: what do you think is the natural result of an absolute normalization of sex work? Isn't it that sex work would be considered a common work like any other? Wouldn't that, then, imply that a sex-worker should indeed never feel like she's morally obligated to divulge her past with a partner? I find it very reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:28 AM
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Or I can, you know, laugh at the whores together with people who also find it funny when a whore thinks she's high-value. Which is what I'm doing. My comment isn't me starting a crusade against sex workers. It isn't me claiming that they wil never find a partner. It is simply me laughing at delusional people. If you don't find them delusional, then okay, ignore me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:26 AM
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I think that it's delusional to imply that prostitutes are making a choice there. They aren't. They aren't thinking "Yeah, I'd rather marry a criminal who may kill me and dump my body in some river instead of that accountant I went to high school with". There are plenty of sex workers who end up marrying normal men and lying about their past to them. Or are you going to now imply that sex workers don't have the habit of hiding their past whoreness? That they're usually very open about it? Cuz th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:22 AM
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What? I've talked to a prostitute on here who said that lying about their past is something very common amongst her colleagues. I've heard stories about ex-prostitutes marrying naive men who had no idea about their past. I've seen multiple people acting like sex work is just like any other work. You're not the arbiter of truth when it comes to what prostitutes think and do, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:18 AM
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The apex fallacy is that you're taking women who are very successful and sex workers as example of sex workers. It's the definition of an apex fallacy. You're taking outlier women (a first lady, and a Kardashian) and using them as examples of how sex workers can actually be desirable. By definition an apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:17 AM
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Sure thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:09 AM
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Apex fallacy. Most sex workers are run-of-the-mill, not-very-attractive women. Once they decide to be sex workers, their value as a potential romantic partner plummets in the eyes of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:08 AM
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Well, a promiscuous woman to me is a woman who has had sex without commitment with multiple guys. The women I'm interested in do not have sex outside of committed relationships. Maybe once, but not multiple times with multiple dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:05 AM
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My point is simply that the delusion is in thinking that they're high-value when they aren't. Being able to find a partner easily is a moot argument. If I decide to fuck guys I can also find partners very easily. So what? I don't want to find male romantic partners. Deciding to fuck men wouldn't make me high-value. Again, the point is that sex workers delude themselves into thinking that they aren't sacrificing anything by being whores. Which they are, they are drastically reducing their chances…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:04 AM
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The shittiest thing about the whole "normalize sex work" thing IMO is how apparently sex workers use that as an excuse for not mentioning their past as sex workers to future partners. I've actually read a sex worker unironically say that just like there is no moral obligation for someone who has worked at McDonalds in the past to share that part of her professional past with a partner, a sex worker should also not have that moral obligation. Cuz you know, sucking dick for money and flipping burg…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:58 AM
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See, that's the thing. That's like saying a broke guy who ends up dating an overweight single mom didn't really want to date a hot woman with no kids. Sex workers have almost no options other than the very few guys with some very out-of-the-norm preferences. The delusion is precisely implying that they don't really want to date the hot rich guy who has multiple options and is probably not picking the whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:54 AM
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I feel like we're arguing in circles here lol Men who pump and dump willingly do not want relationships. I think that's a reasonable assumption, don't you? Do you think that the guys who are sleeping with 2~3 women every week are actively looking for a relationship? Cuz I think it's pretty obvious that they're not. Those guys are indeed the winners in their POV. Because they're getting what they want. They're using the women and going on to the next. If a woman is being pumped and dumped willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:33 AM
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Schrödinger's Man. He's both a loser incel who can't get his (tiny) dick wet, and also a jerk fuckboi who manipulates women with his gigantic schlong. What collapses the wave function in this case is a woman's feelings regarding the man as she observes him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:28 AM
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Riley Reid is married. Mia Khalifa married and later divorced. There's a pr0n star who holds the record of frequency of sex. She fucked 919 guys in the span of 12 hours. She is married. My point isn't that sex workers can't find men. It's just that many are delusional and seem to think that being sex workers doesn't really decrease their chances of finding a partner they'd want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:26 AM
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Yeah, it's also what I think. But it should be noted that there is also the aspect of older women being wiser/more interesting/less shallow. Some guys would probably be willing to "sacrifice" the lack of chastity in those women, if they could have women who look young and hot but who can also offer very intellectually stimulating conversations. It's interesting because this will probably actually happen in the not-so-distant future.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:21 AM
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Sure, I didn't disagree with that. Each case is different, and I certainly find it suspicious when men pursue women who are much younger. Like 40 y/o guys wanting to date 20 y/o women, it's bizarre IMO. What I'm saying is more related to, for example, men who are 32 y/o and who are interested in dating women who are like 25 y/o. Most guys in those situations are probably looking for the good things, and not simply looking for naive little girls. Because let's be honest, a 25 y/o woman is a grown…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:16 AM
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I know that. I agree. I don't get where that is coming from, though. Do you think that I subscribe to the idea that if a woman doesn't fuck a guy within three dates, he should just drop her? Cuz I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:09 AM
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A funny interaction I've had today made me think this: are sex workers the most delusional people in the dating world? I find it curious how I've seen more than one instance of a sex worker acting like she's extremely high-value, wife material and that lots of guys want to marry her. This is worse than single mothers saying that guys are all childish and that they're looking for men and not boys, and that "fun time is over". Maybe it's just cultural shock for me? Are there countries where it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:04 AM
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That's such a great point. People tend to act as if the the implication of "age gap => older person is the one manipulating" applies to all relationships with age gaps. Truth is, that logic only applies to 100% of the cases when we're talking about the relationships between a teenager and an adult. If a woman is like 25 years old and dating a 35 years old, it is very possible that she's the one manipulating the guy. People like to infantillize women too much, it's really annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:53 PM
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The hell are you talking about? What is "my system"? Lol I'm not proposing any system here, mate. I'm just saying that most men don't feel like winners if they end up marrying women with highly promiscuous pasts. There's no "I propose that things should be like this" coming from me. I think that people with similar levels of sociosexuality restrictiveness should just stay together. Men who sleep around date women who sleep around. Men who don't sleep around date women who don't. If there's any "…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:47 PM
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Men want relationships. Most men do not want relationships with highly promiscuous women. Those statements are not contradictory. The guy who gets a relationship with a very promiscuous woman when he wants that won. I'm not arguing against that. I'm arguing against the idea that just because a guy got in a relationship, he's a "winner". He's only a "winner" if the woman that he got with is the kind of woman he wanted to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:30 PM
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You think that making money makes a person not a loser? Oh, my, you really are naive. But I guess that sex workers do tend to associate a man's value with how much money he makes, so I shouldn't be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:27 PM
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LMAO, has that ever worked, I wonder? You think I'm 12 or something? "Hmph, I'll show that girl how rich I am, brb, let me get a photo of my investments". You don't know shit. You're a young woman who thinks knows how "rich men" operate because you've found some losers willing to give you money in exchange of nothing. Frankly? From the brief interaction we've had here, my impression is that you have some weird mental issues. Good luck with the treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:25 PM
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True, which I guess could also be written as "younger people are purer/more innocent than they will eventually be as they get older". So it's understandable why guys prefer women like that instead of a woman with more emotional baggage, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:20 PM
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First, you can stop with the downvotes because you don't like my posts. Read the rules of the sub. Second, you can stop posting multiple comments, just write one answer with what you want to say, or open a chat with me if you want to send multiple different messages. Third, you don't know anything about me, so I've no clue why you're trying to imply what I know or don't know, lol. And it's according to common sense. If you think that rich men are out there paying women for the opportunity of dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:17 PM
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Well, don't say that you did sugaring, then, lol. Sugar babies are sex workers. Just say that you dated rich guys and never fucked them, which is obviously not the norm amongst women who are into dating rich older dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:12 PM
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It's this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:10 PM
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But you were a prostitute. What is your point? That high-value men will often have sex with prostitutes? Yeah, that's common knowledge. Very successful men have a myriad of options. If they are also physically attractive, then those options will also involve genuine attraction instead of negotiated attraction. I don't know, are you implying that the guys who used your services were interested in dating you seriously and marrying you? Cuz AFAIK sugaring is simply prostitution with extra steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:08 PM
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That thread about the hypothetical world in which aging isn't an issue anymore was pretty interesting. For the ones who didn't see it, it was basically proposing a scenario in which people don't age anymore, and asking if men would be less interested in younger women than they are nowadays. Reading some responses to it, I noticed that it seems to be a common belief amongst women that men who prefer younger women tend to be looking for women who are easily manipulated. My personal belief is that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:02 PM
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You can't make assumptions, now can you? Who knows, as long as you haven't seen the sex actually happen, who's to say that any cheating happened there? Maybe she's secretly Canadian and was just being polite. Anyway, I made my point very clear. Your virtue-signalling is just that: you trying to pretend that you're "above" making assumptions, which we both know isn't true. No one never makes assumptions. But go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:42 PM
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Well, it's still up, and I did report it and received an automated message that they didn't find any reason to delete it for hate, so there you have it. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:42 PM
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Jesus Christ, can you be more intellectually dishonest? lol I know what is more reasonable in my country, yes. No, it's not 100%. Some other things are possible. But what I've said is what is most probable based on the reality that I know more than you will ever do, since I was born and raised here. And I'm done here, you're too overly invested on a silly argument that is basically "You can't be sure". No, I can't be sure of many things. I can't be sure that you're not a figment of my imaginatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:12 AM
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By the way, your entire argument seems to be "But the reality might not be what you've said". Yes, that's true. I'm simply pointing out what is more likely. I don't know the reality, nor do I want to know. It's none of my business. I was just sharing something that is likely based on the info I know, because if I had to be 100% sure about everything I post on Reddit, I probably wouldn't even use Reddit. So yeah, you can stop repeating that I'm not absolutely sure that things are exactly as I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:07 AM
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Look, if you're honestly trying to imply that a considerable amount of men have the option to spin plates, let's just agree to disagree. Has no bearing on an individual situation I imagine you're American, if you honestly think that cultural differences aren't relevant when talking about such subjects. America number one, right? lol No, it does have a lot of bearing. You could try accepting that I know more about what is usual in my country, and so my assumptions are more likely to be right than…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:04 AM
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He works for a foreign company, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:57 AM
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Are you actually trying to imply that you know what's more usual in my country than I do? If so: lol Most people are having sex, not a small amount of men. Strawman. My argument is that the vast majority of men don't have multiple options in order for them to "spin plates". And also, "most people are having sex" because people in relationships fuck a lot. When you consider the single men (and the single women too, of course), they are having very little sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:56 AM
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Yes, again, I'm making assumptions based on what's most common in my country. Which I know more than you. He might be a cuckold who asked her to fuck my friend and then tell him the details of the sex. He might be a fuckboy who fucked her best friend behind her back while she was fucking my friend. Many things might happen, but I wrote about what's more likely based on the reality that surrounds me. But go ahead and imply that you never make assumptions in your life, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:48 AM
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The winner is the one who got what they wanted. If a guy wants to be with a woman who was pumped and dumped by multiple dudes (something that most guys do not want), then sure, I guess he won. In most cases, though, I'd argue that the guys who pumped and dumped got what they wanted, while the guy who married the woman thinks he got what he wanted, but not quite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:45 AM
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We get it, bro. Your perfect, virtuous heart never assumes anything from anyone. Lol. I'm making assumptions based on what's most common in my country. But I guess you're the kind of person who catches their partner naked on your bed with another person and is like "Let's not jump to conclusions, maybe he/she was having a workout". Anyway, it is very likely that my assumptions are right. They may be wrong, of course, but making reasonable assumptions are the basis of being a normal human being. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:40 AM
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I would think the same, if my friend was in a serious, almost BF/GF relationship with a girl and fucked another woman. And no, "plenty of guys" do not do it too. The average guy barely gets attention from one woman, much less from multiple women that he can "spin plates" with. That's absurd. You're conflating men with options (a rarity) with men in general. Anyway, the bottom line is that fucking someone when you're almost dating another person is disgusting to most people around the world. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:37 AM
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It is pretty shocking, yes. Try dating a guy and telling him that last week you were fucking another dude. Most guys would not like that at all. Maybe you're from a very sexually liberal place and think that most people are like that, and so you think that that's normal. But no, most people are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:30 AM
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What's even better is being a person with someone who did not objectify herself. Which is what most men I know want in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:26 AM
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He's in IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:23 AM
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What ifs are just what ifs. What if I were a 10/10 Chad with perfect genetics? I don't know, and it doesn't really matter because I'm not and I'll never be one. And this case doesn't even have to do with "women sleeping around" being a problem. The problem is more related to a person fucking someone while they were almost officially dating another person. If I were way more attractive than I am, but still had the same morals, I'd definitely not fuck some random hottie when I was already getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:54 PM
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Are you relaxed? Commenting on my thread? Then you're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:35 PM
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That's most definitely not how I live my life, fellow stranger. If I start dating a girl and then learn that she was fucking another dude before we were official, I'll cut her off in a heartbeat. But you do you. We are just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:34 PM
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I don't know about how things are in your country, but it's not normal over here for adults to start dating and talking about loving their BF/GF publicly in such a short span of time. What I mean is, it is very, very unlikely that she's had sex with my friend, and then met her to-be-BF and started dating him within 1~2 weeks and professing her true love for him. What is more likely, based on how things generally work here, is that they were in a "seriously together but not officially dating" sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:33 PM
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Never said that it was surprising. It's just a weird observation to make, that you can know a specific, relevant thing about a random woman's past, while her BF/husband may have no clue about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:28 PM
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You wasted time writing that comment. You seem oddly invested on my being invested on this subject. No. Truth is, I remembered this out of nowhere and thought that it was a funny thing to share with strangers here on PPD, and wasted a little bit of time writing it instead of playing a video game or jerking off. But thanks for the armchair analysis, buddy. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:25 PM
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I meant nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:23 PM
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In the post I did say that most guys over here would be disgusted at their GF if they knew that she had slept with another man some days before they had started dating. That was the problem. So if you don't think it's a problem for that to happen, then you just don't see a problem with that. To each their own. But as I said, I'm pretty sure most men over here in my country would have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:17 PM
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If you don't see a problem, then you don't see a problem. It's pretty evident what the problem is, for people who see a problem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:11 PM
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The boyfriend. My friend would probably not touch her with a 10 foot pole, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:08 PM
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The sad thing is, there are women who genuinely think that the guy who gets the relationship in this situation is the winner, lol. "All those guys that tossed me around like a piece of meat were just losers, the one guy I ended up settling down with and who waited 3 months to have sex with me, now that was the real winner!". Burger men would be disgusted too Maybe it's just the Americans on Reddit, then. But I've seen a lot of comments on subs here that shame men who care about what their GFs di…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:07 PM
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I've no clue tbh, but she was the one who pursued my friend. She was all over him and he was the one who wasn't that interested initially, but then he wanted to have sex and was like "Oh well, guess I'll fuck that girl who's been after me for some time now". My feeling is that she was horny for my friend and was like "Guess I'll fuck him now while I'm officially still single, no cheating involved, teehee". My friend had zero interest in dating her, though. He did tell me that she mentioned that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:03 PM
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My friend is pretty handsome. He makes like 100k USD/year while living in Brazil, which is insane (90% of Brazilians make less than like 8k USD/year, LOL), is athletic, is like 6'1 and has something like a 7/10 face IMO. I don't really know the boyfriend. But from the photos that I've seen, he seems like he's also attractive. No idea who's taller tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:56 PM
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A friend of mine slept with a girl one day, and one or two weeks later she started dating a guy and posting on IG about how much she loves him etc. I can say with a pretty good degree of certainty that she was already involved with the guy when she slept with my friend, although it was probably not "official" yet. I doubt she's told the guy that she had slept with my friend some days before they started dating, lol. Although this idea of "fucking other people while we're not official" seems to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 08:41 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "young women" and "old men". Most relationships with an age gap have the man older than the woman. That isn't really disputable. Sure, most 21 y/o women aren't interested in 40 y/o guys. But I assure you that there are more 25 y/o women dating 30+ y/o guys than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:52 PM
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Lol, imagine speaking for all "younger women" unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:49 PM
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Also caring about how many sexual partners someone’s had is extreme immaturity and childishness Are you new to this sub? Lol. No, caring about how many sexual partners someone's had just means that you value sex a certain way and want your partner to be similar to you. The immaturity and childness being displayed here is by people like you who can't accept that people can have preferences that differ from yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:47 PM
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Jesus Christ, there are people complaining about how house elves are portrayed, LMAO. If there's one thing about modern leftists that I despise, it's that self-righteousness that makes all of them so cynical. It's like they can't read a fantasy novel as a fantasy novel: everything has to be read through modern political lenses. An authoritarian villain? It's a reference to fascism, and the main characters are Antifa. A stupid bad guy? It's a reference to Donald Trump. Etc etc. It must be exhaust…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:32 PM
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Men who don't want kids are forced to pay child support even if they tell the woman that he doesn't want kids while there could still be an abortion. He has no say in it. Do you have that same "Wow, how absurd" reaction to that kind of scenario?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:08 PM
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It's hard to find exceptional engineers in IT regardless of gender, depending on the level of skills you're looking for. Most jobs have people begging the companies for jobs, while in IT the companies are the ones begging for employees. So the very good ones can pick the companies they want to go to. Also, in certain areas like Security, Infrastructure etc, there are very few women. Now imagine that the company thinks "We should have a female infrastructure engineer!". From the things that I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:50 PM
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Lol, I have no counter for that bizarre argument. "Rich countries are doing this, so it's good". Suit yourself then, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:51 PM
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You can send me a thousand articles about how diversity is good. This isn't addressing my point, which is that I think it's stupid to sacrifice competence for diversity. I'm not against diversity. If I had to choose between a man and a woman of similar skills, and my team needed more diversity, I'd probably choose the woman. What I am against is diversity in detriment of technical skills. No, I will not think that it's a good idea to hire a black lesbian of subpar skills instead of hiring a whit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:34 PM
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So why don’t you look for a woman with acceptable skills instead of subpar ones? Cuz it's not my choice, I'm just an engineer. I interview people. I interviewed said woman who showed very poor technical skills, recommended that we don't hire her, but management pushed her onto the next levels of the hiring process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:25 PM
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Nah, men aren't savages nor do we need women to keep us in check, that's an absurdly sexist way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:21 PM
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What man is saying that you shouldn't be selective? Most men in the the red pill community look down on sluts who sleep around and consider them low value. What men in these spaces criticize is when women have high standards and bring nothing to the table. If you have a lot to offer in a relationship, then by all means, have high standards. Other than that, what you're saying is basically what conservatives want. Women being selective and only having sex with men that they are willing to raise a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:32 AM
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I'm in IT. Most people who work in IT are men, especially in certain areas like Security, Infrastructure, Networking etc. So it's not a statistical anomaly if I end up only hiring men. Just like it's normal for companies in Japan to be composed of mainly Japanese people, because almost everyone there is Japanese. Your arguments are all good arguments in favor of having a blind hiring process. Which I'm all for. Only actually sexist bigots would defend the idea that it's better to hire a white ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:58 AM
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So as long as you get paid you don't care how you got it? Lol. Might give sex work a try if you don't care about how money is acquired then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:54 AM
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Mate, most startups will never topple the giants, period, lol. If your point is that if I have to choose between two equally competent candidates, one a man and another a woman, maybe preferring the woman is a good idea to increase diversity, then I guess I'll agree. But if you honestly think that it's more important to have mediocre engineers in your diverse team, than to have a team composed only of exceptional white cishet guys, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'd take a team of 20 white guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:34 AM
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you’ll see the different reality of what it’s like to have 10x more options than you do now 10x zero options, let's gooooo! Jk. This is indeed a good option for men who want to looksmax. A guy who's never gotten to a low bf percentage in his life can't say that he is indeed unattractive. There are lots of fat guys who become genuinely attractive after getting thinner. But if you get to 10% bf and are still ugly, rip.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:07 AM
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Again, that's your experience. I'm not even American, I'm just talking about how I've been experiencing things working for companies with woke policies. You can believe that it's just me making up scenarios or being a mediocre engineer, sure. But it is how things have been happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:56 AM
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Well, that'd be a great way to make people hate minorities more, lol. Jokes aside, I guess some things are already like that. There are programs that companies do to which only women are invited, and then the best ones are selected. So they basically only compete against other women, making it way easier for them to be hired.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:50 AM
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I've seen extremely racist posts in some weird subs that no one visits. That's irrelevant. I'm pointing out that a thread full of misandric hate got to the front page with thousands of upvotes, awards, and wasn't deleted. That's all. You don't have any counter-argument here, not even whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:47 AM
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Maybe over there where you live. I'm surrounded by woke companies that are constantly going on and on about diversity quotas. Not that I do anything to fight it, I'm just a lowly peasant. Gotta accept m'lord's orders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:43 AM
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A "jarring political joke" that would get me banned if I made it about women in some big subreddit. Almost like there's a double standard that I'm pointing out in my previous post, hmm? you're just being inflammatory here instead of there Amazing deductive skills, Sherlock. Now try to deduce why I'm doing that here instead of in a subreddit that shuts down any wrongthink that goes against the feminist drivel that they spout daily in that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:40 AM
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How is it not affirmative action? She is getting a job because she's a woman and the company wants more women. The company can simply say that she's qualified for the specific role that they have conjured out of thin air that is only for women, lol. I'm not American, btw. And no, she isn't qualified IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:32 AM
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Nah, it's a Junior role. But I personally advised the company not to hire her because she performed very, very poorly. But she'll probably be hired anyway, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:30 AM
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I don't see how anonymous interviews have anything to do with it. Do you mean that you're against affirmative action like that? Cuz even if the process is anonymous, if a woman will get approved because the company wants more women, nothing really changes right, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:29 AM
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What is "my end"? Lol. You've no idea how I feel regarding abortion, dear. But go nuts, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:21 AM
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Q4W: how do you feel about affirmative action to hire women? I've recently had to deal with the interview process of a female IT engineer who had very subpar skills, but management wants to hire more women even if that means my team will have to be less productive to accommodate her. I feel like if I were a woman in that situation, I'd feel insulted that I'm being hired for being a woman and not for being competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:19 AM
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You're either arguing in bad-faith, or are simply too ignorant to realize how "forced vasectomy" is absolutely not equivalent to "abortion being prohibited". In either case, I've seen your other posts here and I know you're an uber-feminist who thinks sex is equivalent to a massage and that sex with a loved one feels no different than sex with a stranger, so I doubt we'd ever see eye to eye on most subjects, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:12 AM
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Yes, I'm sure you have seen highly upvoted and awarded posts of people calling for the mass neutering of women. Extremists exist on both sides. But only one side is applauded and accepted on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:04 AM
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Man, this thread is wild. r/TwoXChromosomes really is full of crazy women. Trap, neuter, and release cis men. Lol. Definitely not hate speech and a completely acceptable thread by Reddit's standards, guys. But yeah, good luck, Americans. Things seem to be getting a bit too crazy over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:15 AM
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What about trans men who also identify as mothers? REEE
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:34 AM
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Never heard of cases of little girls selling their virginities, but Brazil is a pretty poor country, especially when compared to the USA. I earn more than like 99% of Brazilians, and still earn less than the average salary of Americans, lol. But that sounds more like something that happens in the poorer areas of Brazil, definitely not the norm. Overall, it's a great country in many ways, but the crime + the poverty + the corruption kinda ruins the country IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:14 AM
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That's... My point, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:15 AM
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The new controversy in my country (Brazil) is a case of an 11 year old girl who was raped, got pregnant, and a female judge tried to convince her to not abort (even though abortions in case of rape are legal in Brazil). Her reason being that the girl was already 22 weeks pregnant when she found out her pregnancy, so "it wouldn't be abortion anymore". Pretty absurd IMO, since it's legal to abort in that case, and it's a fucking child who was raped, but yeah. How about you guys, what's the hot new…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:14 AM
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"All men are X" Yess queen, slay! "All black men are X" What a bigot, send him to the gulag! You can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:10 AM
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>men are still the problem What a shitty take. Women commit 100% of paternity fraud cases. But "women" aren't the problem. Shitty women with no morals are the problem. Rule of thumb: when saying anything about men, substitute "men" with "black/asian/hispanic men". If the phrase is suddenly racist, you're a misandrist. Same rule of thumb applies to saying stupid shit about women, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:09 AM
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A successful monogamous relationship, in the classic sense, is lifelong. That's the point of "until death do us part". A divorce is a failure. Which was my point with the comment about how marriage seems archaic nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:29 PM
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Yeah, that's definitely a big one. Not only values, but also personality I feel like. If people are too different I think they end up having too many disagreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:13 PM
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What do you guys think are the common aspects of successful monogamous relationships? Like marriages that actually last for the rest of life, no cheating ever happening. I sometimes feel like the concept of marriage is becoming more and more archaic in Western societies. Rising divorce rates, declining number of marriages, rising acceptance of non-monogamous relationships, etc etc. Maybe the classic "until death do us part" has no place in the modern world?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:48 PM
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Just virtue signalling. Regardless of how old a man is, most men will find a 21 year old woman attractive. This isn't just a matter of opinion, it's a well-established fact. Maybe OP is an outlier and genuinely finds 21 year old women unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:33 PM
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Lol @ the guys saying that "they were never turned down because of their height". Of course most women won't outright reject you and mention your height as the reason. But you can be sure that if you're 5'4, many women will reject you for your height, regardless of whether they will tell you that it was because of it or not. Other than that, it's just virtue signaling and echo chambering. Two very common things here on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:28 PM
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Shit on his cereal? Sure, not cool. But snicker while I observe his shitty decision making? I sure as hell will. And yeah, sex workers have to constantly delude themselves into thinking that they haven't made horrible choices in their lives. And it's particularly shitty because it was a choice, unlike being born as a short asian man, so they have no one to blame but themselves. Which just makes the self-delusion more entertaining to watch as an observer, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:26 AM
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Holy shit, you're not joking, LOL. Well, just goes to show how PPD attracts all types of posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:22 AM
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Yeah, some people exaggerate when reacting to something online. I think men who date sex workers are pathetic, but death threats are obviously going too far, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:20 AM
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Lol. The sad thing is, there's always some loser who ends up married to women like that, like the woman who commented down that comment thread. And then the women who get losers like that as husbands go around telling other sex workers that it's all fine and that men are okay with it. But oh well, at the end of the day I'm pretty sure most of these women end up either lying to their future partners about their past or alone. So all's well that ends well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:09 AM
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Yeah, it's basically the bubble thing. Same thing happens with trans women. They surround themselves with people who are similar to them and many end up thinking that only bigots wouldn't date a trans woman. When in reality, I'm pretty sure that 90% of straight men wouldn't date trans women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:40 AM
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Frankly, if the guy isn't a legitimate turbocuck who thinks it's hot that their GF is whoring herself out for money, I can't see any man being actually happy in a relationship with a sex worker. The sad thing is, many sex workers end up lying to future partners about their past. "I wouldn't need to mention that I worked on McDonalds when I was 16, why would I mention that I sucked dick for money when I was 21!?" being the rationale offered by some of them, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:39 AM
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Apparently, sex workers overdose on copium and seethe when they see that most men wouldn't date them. Just thought that it was funny and wanted to share it. It's funny to me how the people who are at the bottom of the barrel of the dating world still seem to think that they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:11 AM
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Things like being too touchy/flirty with another man would already probably make me want to break up. Being friends with a guy she's had a relationship with in the past is a no-no for me tbh. I remember feeling very disrespected by my ex, who was friends with guys she'd hooked up with in the past. In general, I have zero tolerance to anything even tangentially related to cheating. I despise cheaters and I pity people who forgive them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:07 AM
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Yes, men in general find women around that age range to be very attractive. Some men may not. The OP of that thread seems to be the case. Youthfulness is one of the single most attractive features that women can have in a heterosexual relationship. This is both proven by having common sense and looking around you, and by actual studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:59 AM
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I guess a more common phenomenon with men is when a guy looks like he's angry/aggressive/anti-social, but that's just how he looks normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:57 AM
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I just deal with the lack of intimacy, I guess. I like romantic manga, though. Maybe I use that as a way to fill the void of not having real love? I guess so. But in general, I've just always been very lonely, so I'm used to not having a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:51 AM
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Would I like to have a loving relationship with a good woman? Sure. But I'm surrounded by promiscuity and people acting like having sex with strangers is like getting a massage (Brazilian here), while I'm repulsed by casual sex. So in general I'm not very hopeful of finding a woman whose values align with mine, so I don't even try tbh. I just acquire currency, work out and play videogames. Not really living the dream, but living the reality, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:19 AM
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As a man I grew up enjoying romance in media particularly in cartoons, fiction books, and some movies. Mind you I wasn't obsessed with Hollywood or Disney but rather stuff like Studio Ghibli. I want something like that for myself. Lol, that describes me to a tee. Sadly, I think romance like that is usually about luck more than about anything else. I don't think there is a proper method to find a pure love like the love that is presented in stories like that. You're either lucky and meet a very d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:15 AM
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As I said, I'm pretty monogamous, so I'm not really attracted to the idea of fucking multiple bishes. I'd probably feel sad if my GF/wife didn't care about me fucking other women. I know, pretty gay, but it's how I am. But I get that most men would probably see that as heaven, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:54 AM
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I was thinking about creating a thread about this, but I'll just make this comment: Why do you guys think that hyper-successful men cheat so much? Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Brad Pitt, and I'm sure you can think of others. It's almost a challenge to find a man who is very successful and happy in a monogamous relationship. Are men with too many options just more likely to not be monogamous? Is monogamy generally more about a lack of options than anything else for men? I really wonder about this, cuz …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:29 AM
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People talk. Meeting your friends and asking you questions adjacent to the subject (e.g. a guy acting like he's very sexually liberal to see what you tell him) will generally allow one to learn things like that. Sure, there's no absolute way to know for sure. But it's naive to think that there's no way to have an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:16 AM
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Just be honest and upfront. That's enough. But some people will still think you're a jerk. I remember seeing a thread, I think it was on r/relationship_advice, in which the OP was a guy who wanted to have a FWB relationship but every woman ended up catching feelings. People piled on OP, saying he was a piece of shit because he was sweet and nice to his FWBs, cuddled with them etc. Truth is, some people will always villainize men when it comes to this subject. Because some people love infantilizi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:08 AM
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I've read some responses here and I think people are trying to give answers that encompass all people, which doesn't get anyone anywhere IMO. Let's imagine an average woman and an average man in a first world country, and ignore outliers. AFAIK, women are going to universities more. There are studies showing that in first world countries, female academic hypogamy is already happening, i.e. highly educated women are marrying guys who aren't as formally educated as they are. From a professional an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 06:50 PM
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Personally, I don't like casual sex and don't think that "it's fine for men to sleep around". If I were looking to date a man, I'd care about his body count. That being said, double standards are very common in the dating world. There are plenty of broke women out there who don't want to date broke men, for example. In this particular case of promiscuity being okay for men, most people who complain about it aren't doing so from the POV of "it isn't okay for either of them", but instead are usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:06 PM
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Not really, a young man can always date a young woman on his level. Which is what happens in most relationships between young people, lol. Also, I wouldn't say that "women are solely attracted to high status". Just that it's an important factor to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:32 AM
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Well, a successful 20-25 year old in my opinion is an outlier. Most people at that age range are just starting to find employment. So the successful men at that age range would probably be the ones who got good jobs, e.g. software engineering jobs that pay well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:23 AM
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I'm not a woman, so I can't really say for sure. But what I think most women consider as losers are men who aren't very successful and also are lazy/not driven. There are definitely good women out there who are willing to stick with a man during hard times, when he's not successful. But I think most women will abandon a man if he starts getting lazy and becomes a slob who doesn't try to better himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:13 AM
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Loser low status men aren't desirable to pretty much any woman. I think most women, even single women who want a relationship, would rather stay single than date a guy they perceive as a loser. There's that study that shows that single women are happier than single men. So there's that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:07 AM
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so this is generalized for ALL men and women? Obviously not. But it applies to most people. why can't a younger man have status? I didn't say they can't. I said that they're probably broke. Which they are. Because most young people are broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:05 AM
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One of the things that most attract men is youth. One of the things that most attract women is financial stability/status etc. You're proposing that women who lack youth should get together with young (and therefore probably broke) men. Might as well ask men to become gay and women to become lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:56 AM
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To be fair, that's pretty much all of Reddit. All of humanity, even. The biases thing, I mean. I've had people bring up this "argument" when I showed them studies that show women having libido levels both lower and less consistent than men's. Something that is common sense, but there are still women who seem to believe that women crave sex as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:49 AM
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Q4All: would you say that highly attractive women (8+) are more or less likely to be promiscuous? Or no correlation? I personally think that they're less promiscuous judging from the women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:12 AM
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Do you know Lean Beef Patty? She has a pretty amazing body.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:32 AM
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Probably the misogyny. TRP has helped me in many ways, but I think it's disingenuous to pretend that there isn't misogyny in those circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:29 AM
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I always assume that a woman who says this is a woman who has a high body-count. Women who don't sleep around should have no reason to care about that. Just avoid mansluts and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:26 AM
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I believe the reason why female birth control was so impactful was that it allowed women to be promiscuous with much lower risk of getting pregnant. Women, in almost all societies, have been the "pursued sex", while men were the pursuers. So with the advent of birth control pills, women could now have sex without marriage without having to worry about becoming single mothers. Even the ones who pretended to be Christians/Conservatives could now sleep around and then pretend that they're still vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:24 AM
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I guess I'd only think something if the difference in attractiveness is large. If the guy is like a 3 and the woman is an 8, I'll naturally assume that there's some mischief at play, i.e. the guy is probably rich as fuck, or powerful in some way or something like that. If the levels of attractiveness are similar I wouldn't really think much about it. Most couples are somewhat ugly or average people dating each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:57 AM
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Although I personally am not interested in sugaring or prostitution (I'm actually disgusted by sex workers tbh), I do think that men who only want sex or shallow relationships are better off paying a whore. It's no wonder why highly successful men very commonly hire high-end escorts. You don't usually see a CEO of a big company in a bar trying to find a woman to hook up with, since people like that are too busy, and paying a whore is a much more time-efficient way of having sex. But as others ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:51 AM
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People on this sub have this idea that pointing out that a study is self-reported is somehow a counter. How the fuck would a study about sexlessness be done if not self-reported? Lol. It's such a pointless thing to point out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:39 AM
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Yeah, good point. The age is just a generalization that makes things easier, but at the end of the day each case is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:52 PM
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For the following ages, please tell me the maximum age of someone who could date the person of that age without being seen as a creep in your opinion: 16, 18, 20, 25, 30. To me, it would be something like this: Age Max age of partner 16 18 18 22 20 26 25 35 30 ∞ Just curious because it's common to see people freaking out here on Reddit about age gaps. Also, does the gender of who is older and who is younger matter? I personally don't think it does. (I've just realized that what I find reasonable…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:09 PM
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I've dated a girl like that. She was my first and one day shared with me, completely out of the blue, that she had had a FWB with a giant cock, lol. Some people grow older but don't learn what is and what isn't appropriate to do or say when they're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:54 PM
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The key point is consistency. These "lovely women" you speak of aren't so lovely if they put out easily to some guys and then make other guys wait. That's what makes many men mad. Personally, I'm not interested in having casual sex, and I'm much more interested in women who want to wait for sex. But only if that's a consistent behavior. If she's been a Tinder slut in the past, but with me suddenly sex is something special and we need to wait, lol, nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:02 PM
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Ding ding ding. It makes zero sense. Sex is either something you see as special, or it's not really that special. Acting like sex can be situationally special is a weird behavior that some women display, that just comes down to physical attraction. They fuck the hot guy fast, and then pretend like sex is something special when they meet a guy they want to date. The only exception IMO would be a woman who's had casual sex and regretted it, deciding to not ever do it again. But this inconsistent b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:59 PM
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I've experienced it first-hand. She was the woman I lost my virginity to, pretty late in life (23-ish). I knew of at least two guys that she had hooked up with, one of whom was a close friend of mine who was the typical fuckboi who fucks a new girl every week, and the other had a gf and this girl was basically an affair partner of his. When we started talking, I thought that she only wanted something casual, which was great for me back then because I had given up on "saving my virginity to someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:48 PM
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First of all, to me context is the most important thing of all when it comes to n-count. If a woman has had 5 fuck buddies, to me that makes her much less relationship material than another woman of the same age who's had 5 serious boyfriends she's loved, and no fuck buddies. That being said, for the women who are aged from 20 to 25 years old, a hard limit would probably be 5. I find it hard to imagine a woman who is 23 years old, doesn't like casual sex, but who's had sex with more than 5 guys.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:34 PM
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There's a lot to unpack there, and I'm not really interested in doing so. But my main point was simply that there's nothing inherently bad about a man telling a woman that he wants a paternity test. I plan to do that with any child I have in the future, regardless of how much I trust and love the mother of my children. Again, it's not about not trusting the women, it's about leveling the playing field to make things fairer for men, in this case. Whataboutism doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:59 AM
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The last relationship I've had was like 3 years ago. Since I'm not really interested in hook-ups, dating has been nonexistent. I'm enjoying the life of a single man with not many worries. But it does get lonely at times. And I'm pretty sure that when I do decide to get back into dating it'll be pretty hard, since after my last relationship I discovered that the sexual past of a woman is a dealbreaker to me if it involved multiple casual partners. Since talking about that topic with a woman you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:43 AM
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Do you guys know that r/WitchesVsPatriarchy subreddit? Basically a hyper-feminist echo chamber. I wonder: what kind of man are women like that attracted to? They usually sound so bitter and misandric. Do very feminist women tend to not date men? In my mind they're either lesbians, asexual or date male feminists who ask for forgiveness for being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:16 AM
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It's not only about trust. The relationship between men and women is inherently unbalanced when it comes to pregnancy: women always know that a child is theirs without having to trust the man, men can't be sure and have to believe the woman. It's about leveling the playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:49 PM
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I really don't get your insistence on this point, sorry. What exactly is wrong with the idea that a woman looking for a man to build a family with isn't interested in dating a guy who is a "broke unemployed guy living with his parents who doesn't do anything to change his situation"? Do you think a guy like that is in any way in a position to start a family? The guy doesn't even sustain himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:50 AM
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If he's content with his situation, then nothing, I guess. He's just not a good suitor for a woman who wants to build a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:36 AM
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Particularly if you're in a similar position Sure, in that case most people would probably find the person hypocritical. I'm imagining a woman who has her shit together and is looking for a man to build a family with. And that woman wanting a man who also has his shit together and not a loser who doesn't do anything to change things for him would be completely justified to most people, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:35 AM
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Yeah, I personally am not interested in such things either. But I guess that if a man sees women as only having their pussy to offer him, then I suppose that being a sugar daddy or finding a shallow woman is enough to satisfy his needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 03:38 AM
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I mean, is it really that surprising to you? Money isn't something inherent to a person, it's completely extrinsic. Even beauty/hotness is less superficial than money. Taking into account the financial stability of a man, especially if your intention is to become a housewife, is obviously acceptable. I don't think many people would shun you for not wanting to date a broke unemployed dude who lives with his parents and makes no effort to change his situation. What people criticize (rightfully, IM…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 06:25 PM
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Oh, definitely. I've been there, lost my virginity to a girl that I later dated for about one year, she had been with something between 10 and 20 dudes by the time she was 22. I'll probably always remember the ironic smile that a guy I knew once gave me when he greeted me after I had started dating this girl. She vehemently denied ever having had sex with the guy, but you can already guess that that was a lie. As you've said, people talk. Many men love to boast about their sexual conquests. I hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 11:39 PM
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Personally, I doubt the sexual lives of people in prudish societies is better. I think it's both more likely that men will enjoy sex, and more likely that they will want to make an effort to make their partner also enjoy sex, in more sexually liberated cultures. In prudish societies, I believe the average man won't give a shit about foreplay and will just stick his dick in his wife until he cums. I'm from Brazil, a pretty sexually liberated country, and I think most women here would probably dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:03 AM
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So much hamstering in that thread, Jesus Christ. It's always hilarious when women complain about "double standards" as if the world is supposed to be absolutely fair and there are no differences between men and women. Even more ridiculous because instead of thinking "Maybe I, as a woman, should just not want to be with a manslut", many think "Men are wrong for not wanting to date sluts!!!", lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 09:33 PM
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There is a common misconception by many people, especially women in my opinion, which is that just because they've never/rarely had anyone directly ask them their n-count, then men don't really care about it and it's just incels from Reddit. I think anyone sensible knows that most men do in fact care about a woman's sexual past, to different degrees. The vast majority of men interested in having monogamous relationships wouldn't wife up an ex-escort or ex-pornstar, for example. However, asking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 07:48 PM
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Huh, I'll be damned. So you didn't have any sort of negative feeling towards the promiscuity of the woman in question? It was totally a rational decision? That is indeed the first time I've heard of that, if that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 04:22 PM
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Lol, dunno if that's really the case, but I'm pretty sure that Camus would despise incels. The point of Absurdism isn't that "It's over", it's quite the opposite really. It's a call to action against the absurd reality of the human existence. A school of thought that is much more incel-like is Nihilism, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:51 PM
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No, there isn't. You are projecting onto men who care about the past what you think is their reasons. Just like people who assume that men who care about it are insecure, immature or whatever. Here's the bottom line: telling you (and I didn't even tell you directly, I just said that to explain how I feel) that I feel grossed out about promiscuous women isn't a judgement. Wild, I know. But it's not. I'm explaining what I feel and why I don't get involved with promiscuous women. I'm not saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:51 PM
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It's an interesting thing to think about. I think people in general would indeed be better if they pursued the Aristotelian virtues. But at the same time, I feel like there are things that are more desirable in men than in women and vice-versa, so I'd enjoy reading about what a female philosopher would consider to be the female virtues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:05 PM
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I haven't really read much Philosophy lately tbh, sadly. But if you want to get into it, the "easy" classics I recommend would be some of the dialogues from Plato. I particularly recommend Euthyphro, Apology of Socrates, Crito and Phaedo. They detail Socrates's way to the tribunal, Socrates defending himself from his accusers, his condemnation and death. If you want something more modern, I really like Albert Camus. His main point is basically that life is meaningless and that you should "rebel"…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:49 PM
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Mate, I think you've misread me. Read it again. I never said that the n-count of a woman doesn't matter. It matters a lot to me. My entire point was that I don't think people who care about it do it for practical reasons. I think most just don't feel good about the idea of dating a slut, and so they try to rationalize it by finding practical reasons why dating a slut would be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:55 PM
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Lol, not particularly, no. I've just always enjoyed Philosophy, so I've read a bit about it here and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:46 PM
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Not the point. Presenting an exception against an absolute generalization makes sense. If people go AWALT, it's reasonable to present an exception. But again, not what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:45 PM
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What? How did you ever arrive at that from what I said? The only thing I said about my personal preference there was "I don't care if a woman has had sex with 100 Chads or 100 losers, I'd still not be interested in her." I care about a woman's sexual past. I'm just saying that I personally don't care because of practical reasons, but because I feel "yucky" about it, and that I doubt that men who care about a woman's past typically care about it from a practical standpoint like "She's more likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:44 PM
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People can care about it for many different reasons. There is no overarching philosophy that people who care about a person's past share. But this discussion is pointless. Think it's a philosophy if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:40 PM
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Lol, we just have a fundamentally different view on sex, I think. I'm not into casual sex, and I'm not into women who are. I've dated a promiscuous girl, and it was very bad for me and, consequentially, it was very bad for her as well. But it all boils down to the yuck factor, yes. I'm disgusted by the idea of committing to a woman who slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:13 AM
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Lol. It's a philosophical concept that comes from the cartesian idea of nothing existing outside of the self. Mind you, Descartes didn't actually believe that, but he did start off from that premise in his Meditations when he wanted to cast doubt onto everything. "Male solipsism" may mean something in the feminist spheres, I wouldn't know. But no, what I did was projection, not solipsism. You remain wrong, regardless of how much you want to believe that you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:48 AM
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Again with the silly arguments. Okay then, disregard any study, you're a special individual, no societal rules apply to you nor to your partners. And why is it every time I try to tell guys to give themselves more credit they seem determined not to? Never get slapped down harder than when I try to tell a guy to believe someone could desire him for himself. Lol, you really like misrepresenting people's points, don't you? Practically a professional strawman builder, you are. No one is slapping you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:45 AM
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First point: men are not insecure if they don't want to be with a promiscuous woman. That's all I wanted to say. That poster wanted to imply that men who care about the past are just insecure or incapable of trusting their partners, and that's silly, so I spoke up against it. Second point: you're ascribing a set of values to a person due to a very specific thing. People may have a varied set of values/beliefs and still think that the past matters. There's no philosophy all men who care about the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:25 AM
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That's projection. I mean, you just pasted the definition of solipsism up there. Thinking that women think like men isn't solipsistic in any way, shape or form. And, mind you, I never assumed that, I asked a question about whether women feel like that. If I assumed that women feel just like men because "only men's feelings matter", then you'd have a better argument for that being solipsistic. If I ask a question based on my personal experience because I want to understand how women feel, that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:19 AM
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Matters for what? Fidelity, correct? Does that not lead into 2 and 3 on that list? Fidelity is what's mainly studied and proven, yes. But if you want to reduce your chances of getting cheated on, it doesn't follow that you're doing those two things. As I said, it's a misrepresentation of the actual reason why certain men avoid promiscuous women. The commenter wants to imply that men who care about a partner's past are insecure or incapable of trusting their partners, which is silly. There are pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:56 PM
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What "philosophy" are you talking about it? Caring about a person's past? Cuz: It's not a philosophy. It's not about thinking that they're fantasizing about sex with someone else. It's not about thinking they're always ready to cheat. A silly misrepresentation of the point you're trying to argue against helps no one. There is factual evidence that the sexual past of a partner matters. Regardless of how sexually secure you are or how much you trust your partner, [REDACTED] don't care about your […
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:37 PM
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I actually had an issue with your use of "male solipsism" as a way to make fun of that sentence, but I didn't raise it because I found caring about it silly. But honestly, you're talking about projection. I didn't assume that women don't have real feelings, or thoughts, or anything like that. But you could argue that I projected onto women the idea that they might fear being seen as "only good as mothers" because some men fear the male equivalent of that. But it's definitely not solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:32 PM
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I just take public transportation or Uber. But I do take care of my body, working out etc. I'm just too much of a couch potato, it wouldn't make sense for me to have a car, lol. Ye. I wouldn't want to be that person broken down on the side of the road because I wasn't paying attention to something that I should have known about. That's the worst. My mother has had a car for years but she still doesn't pay much attention to it and kind of depends on my father telling her things about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:27 PM
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I think the mere act of showing interest in a man and being assertive about it isn't inherently low (nor high) value. It's dependent on the circumstances. Is she doing that to random guys she wants to fuck, or to a guy she's been acquaintances with for some time and whom she thinks might be a decent guy to pursue a relationship with? I'd find the latter more high-value than the former. So, yeah, it depends, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:22 PM
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I barely leave my house, mate. I'll most likely never have a car, lol. But yeah, people who drive almost every day would probably benefit from understanding more about cars in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:15 PM
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Oh, I see. Reading the rule about BP, I would think it's just forbidden to respond with only "cope", which is indeed stupid. But the idea of some arguments being cope makes sense to me. But I'll call it ego-defensive-argument from now on, then, lol. Thank you for responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:13 PM
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Pair bonding in humans being affected by n-count is pseudo-scientific at best AFAIK, so it's pretty irrelevant. I don't care if a woman has had sex with 100 Chads or 100 losers, I'd still not be interested in her. To be honest, I think most guys don't really have practical reasons to dislike promiscuous women. Those practical reasons are retroactively thought of to justify the "yuck factor" that men who dislike sluts feel. Pair bonding, likeliness to cheat, things like that aren't really the mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:49 PM
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Stating personal preferences and experiences isn't the problem, mate. What's the difficulty in understanding what I'm talking about? I'm talking about people who bring up the fact that they are exceptions when the subject is a generalization that already admits exceptions. And, as I said initially, it applies to both men and women. You're the one trying to make this a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:35 PM
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Don't really need to care about the subject to find this sort of interjection annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:33 PM
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I just told you that if the generalization is something absolute like "All men are X" or "All women are Y", then I see no problem with presenting an exception. My rant is about generalizations that are real and that implicitly recognize the existence of exceptions. If I show you a lake and tell you "It's pretty dangerous, 10 people have drowned here in the last 6 months", why would I care if someone says "But I dive there every week and I'm alive!"? It's irrelevant to the main point, which is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:13 PM
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What? No. People can disagree with the generalization without the disagreement being "But not me!". Exceptions don't add anything to the discussion, unless the discussion is an absolute generalization like "All swans are white". You can have a lot of healthy discussion with people without being an annoying special snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:09 PM
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Yeah, that is indeed something that needs to be proven. Not one of us is an individual who understands that, so it's good that we have a solipsist with us. We really need you telling us all about it, so keep it coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:07 PM
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I've only had sex with one girl, silly, and she had a considerable n-count (that was actually the main reason why it didn't work out). It's been years since I've been single, and I fucked zero women, cuz I'm not interested in sex outside of a committed relationship. So yeah, your point doesn't apply to me. You seem to believe that anyone who isn't married after 18 is hooking up, not really the case, lol. Regardless, the initial argument has zero to do with this. The initial point that was raised…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 10:05 PM
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Lol, I had never realized that, but it's true. It's the Schrodinger Double Standard, in a superposition of "existing and being detrimental to women" and "not existing at all and being a coping mechanism by insecure men".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:59 PM
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I find it annoying because it's irrelevant to the conversations and, more often than not, it's basically a person trying to make it about themselves. When people are discussing generalities, they're probably not asking for people who are exceptions to speak up, they want to understand the generalization. Obviously, as the other person has said, you're allowed to do what you want. If you want to proclaim how much of an exceptional snowflake you are, go ahead. I'm just complaining here because I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:56 PM
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Sure, but that's another issue. If a person includes a moral judgement on people who do X, then it's normal for people to get defensive. What I find annoying is when people treat them being exceptions as something relevant. If I have a study showing that highly promiscuous people are more likely to cheat, no one cares that you've fucked 100 people and never cheated. It doesn't add anything to the conversation, it's just a defensive way to say that you're special. And I'm just saying "you" as a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:44 PM
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And I never implied that there aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:41 PM
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Nah, not really. People just want to feel special. Congrats that you don't fall in the generalization, then the post/comment isn't about you. Ignore it and carry on. Mind you, I'm not talking about people who say "ALL MEN ARE X" or "ALL WOMEN ARE Y". Those are evidently stupid, speak against them all you want. What I am complaining about is people who can't see anyone say, for example: "It's best to avoid fucking a guy on the first date if what you're looking for is a LTR", and then having someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:39 PM
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Yeah, the main point of Stoicism is that Virtue is the way to Eudaimonia and Ataraxia, the two main objectives in life according to ancient ethics. Eudaimonia meaning "being your true self/plenitude/happiness" and Ataraxia meaning "not feeling disturbed". It can definitely help most people who feel a lack of purpose in their lives. I wonder what virtues would be female if a modern female Aristotle were to think about it. Would they at all be different from the male ones, you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:30 PM
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The bane of all relationships/advice subs (in which I include this one) is "B-but that doesn't apply to me!". It's like some people don't understand the purpose of generalizations. Congrats, Becky, you had sex with 100 guys, fucked every one on the first date and then found a guy who wanted to marry you. It doesn't change the fact that generally, doing what you did will make you less attractive for relationships to most men. Same thing applies to men who feel attacked by generalizations, obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:24 PM
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Lolno. I just don't engage in casual sex, and I'm not interested in dating women who are into it. You probably have a biased view on women who don't have casual sex, but I assure you: there are plenty of women out there who only fuck boyfriends. And no, they aren't sex-repulsed prudes or any BS like that, they just don't like being passed around by men who don't respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:04 PM
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Imagine if the girl wanted just sex. Is she then as wrong as the guy for not stating from the start that that's all she wanted? Somehow I feel like people wouldn't think so, lol. But they'd probably say that they think it, of course. Can't be outed as hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:44 PM
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You think you're being sly, but I assure you, you're not. The main problem with this change in behavior is quite simple: most guys don't want to feel like they're the consolation prize. It's the same thing that happens when a former slut realizes that the fuckbois she'd been fucking don't want to commit to her, and then she decides that she should look for a "stable provider", "husband material" or some shit like that, if she wants to marry. The idea that a woman was giving out something for fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:29 PM
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Good analogy with the friendzoning thing. If a guy is friendzoned like that, no one is gonna call the girl an asshole for not stating upfront that she wouldn't fuck the guy, lol. But I meant more in the sense that some guys actually pretend to want a relationship only to PnD. In that case, I blame the guy, naturally. But if they're just two people having consensual sex, then it's on the person who wants something serious to state that and avoid sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:14 PM
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Of course. Some generations ago many cultures demonized female orgasms, nowadays many guys are (rightfully) shamed if they don't care about their partners' pleasure in bed. Not only that, but when it comes to what attracts men and women, things are way more out in the open nowadays. Especially because what attracted women didn't matter some generations ago, they were just properties of their families. So, yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that we know far more about the other gender. Which doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:12 PM
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It's interesting to think about what "male virtues" are. The idea of a "virtuous man" is very ancient. Aristotle wrote a lot about what he saw as the main moral virtues in the Nicomachean Ethics. And since this was done in an era of absolute patriarchy, then virtues = male virtues. I think Aristotle would probably laugh if you asked him "What would the female virtues be?", lol. But anyway, I personally would (will?) raise a hypothetical son teaching him about these virtues. Honesty, Courage, Mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:06 PM
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I was actually going to post this one here, lol. It's really ridiculous how people infantilize women. As if they're incapable of acting according to what they want. "Oh, the poor girl probably only had sex with you because she wanted a relationship!". Yeah, women are incapable of stating what they want, huh? It'd be one thing if the guy already planned to pump-n-dump her and manipulated her, but that's not what happened, so I really don't get the seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:53 PM
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I mean, most guys understand that. Alexander Grace, a famous red pill youtuber, has many videos about that kind of subject. My point is that I don't need objective facts to make me not want to date sluts. I'm just not interested in doing it. Also, evolutionary psychology is considered by many a non-science, since it's unfalsifiable. So there's that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:59 AM
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Well, you learn a lot of things, but they're only special if sex is also special to you. If you see sex like the average person sees massages, then yeah, of course it's not gonna have much difference if it's with someone you love or not. Which, as OP said, is a main reason why many people are put off by promiscuous men/women. If I had to guess, I'd say that most people don't see sex like they see massages, so they don't want to be with someone who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:37 AM
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Black swans. They exist, of course, but they're very rare. I don't think I've ever met one personally. Notice how many women in this thread don't even understand what a conservative, non-religious woman would be, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:10 AM
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Honestly, even if it was scientifically proven by a peer-reviewed study with a very objective methodology that sluts are the best mothers, the most faithful wives and the most honest women out there, I'd still not want to have a relationship with one. I quite frankly don't care if promiscuous women are a good catch or not. I just care that sex is something special to me and I don't want to be with someone who shared it with random dudes. It's not a value judgement or me thinking that she's inher…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:01 AM
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15 or 20 partners is still low by modern standards Who is telling you that? The average number of partners during a man's entire life is probably like 8 or 9, and for a woman it's like 7. At least that's what I've seen when studies about it are mentioned. Unless you believe the studies are all wrong, or men have started having more than twice the sex they were having when these studies were done (which doesn't make sense, since male sexlessness is actually on the rise)... Then, no, 15~20 is very…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:50 AM
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feels just as good when it's someone you love as when it's someone you don't Not to me, to be honest. Even a 30+ n-count friend I have has told me that sex is much better when it's with someone he loves. So, yeah, no, I don't agree, and I think most people wouldn't agree with you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:38 AM
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It's not as bad as having no options, though. Being a lonely fuck who doesn't get any validation from anyone in their lives is much worse than being showered with attention from guys you're not interested in. You trying to argue what you're arguing is just another evidence that certain women truly have this twisted mentality that having dozens of guys interested in you, but in whom you're not interested, is just as bad as being a lonely guy no one wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:56 PM
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Then you haven't lurked enough. There are plenty of people who argue that women who have too many options to choose from have it just as bad as men who never have any woman showing interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:37 PM
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God, the average redditor on relationship subs is so fucking bluepilled it hurts. Look at those top comments saying that it was a compliment, that she "matured" etc. So pathetic. Good luck to the future betabux OP there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:22 PM
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Only a very pathetic man would be willing to commit to a woman who has "rotations". So you'll either be dishonest with him and not tell him that he was one of three; or you'll end up dating a man with no backbone; or you'll be dumped like you deserve. Great advice. lol And no, I don't think it's okay for men to get in relationships with "plates".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:16 PM
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Not nearly on the same level. So, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:11 PM
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>easily Lol. So why is male sexlesness rising, pray tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:08 PM
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Men want young women because they are easier to manipulate Lol. The typical sour grapes argument. It's really pathetic to see older women acting like that. It's so obvious that women in their twenties are more universally desired than older ones, but it's hard to find a woman who accepts that without seething or calling men pedos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:34 PM
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A 10 s just a person who is a 9 who is your type. That's my definition of it, at least. But these higher levels are entirely subjective: the woman I said was a 10 to me is apparently a 4.5 to another guy who replied to my comment, LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:32 PM
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Disgusting. Thank you, Jesus, for making me be born from a woman who didn't broadcast her sexual relations to the world. Imagine how much shame a kid like that feels as they grow up. Poor kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:29 PM
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In certain groups, cheating is pretty normalized, so being faithful is a plus. Even though, as you said, it's the bare minimum. Just like women being able to cook or "having their shit together" when they're adults. That's what's expected of every adult, but since it's so rare for women nowadays to have more "traditional" interests like being able to cook, then they broadcast that as if it makes them a catch, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:27 PM
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Dunno, mate. He's very handsome in my opinion. Maybe in a video it's better? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reznfS89oIU Pretty much the definition of a Chad Thundercock to me. What's a 10 male to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 07:23 PM
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I feel that. Every time I think of making a Bumble profile to see how it goes, I start thinking "Man, I'll have to take some new pictures since I don't have social media, that's so boring..." and end up not doing it, lol. I'll probably keep being a volcel for years to come. But good luck with the date, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:05 PM
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You're basically having the worst interpretation of every single point and acting as if your POV is reasonable, lol. Green flag presented: having a kind personality You: "WHAT IF SHE'S A SOCIOPATHIC SNAKE WHO FAKES BEING KIND!?" Green flag presented: she has less experience with casual sex You: "YOU MEAN SEX REPULSED PRUDES OR WOMEN WITH LOW SEX DRIVE!?" Jesus Christ, mate. Try to be more charitable when arguing instead of interpreting every point as the worst possible version of what you're rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:36 PM
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Seems reasonable to me. People get their panties in a bunch because they think "OMG, I DON'T FIT THIS ONE SO IS IT SAYING I'M A BAD CHOICE!?!?" FUCK YOU!. The whole point of these "flags" is that they suggest something. They're not supposed to be the end all be all of who a person is. Each person is different. A person can have a functional family life and become a serial killer. Another person can come from a broken home and be the kindest soul you'll ever meet. But in general, these things do …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:31 PM
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As I said, entirely subjective, LOL. To me, she's a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:15 PM
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It's not really a matter of opinion. Just read studies on the differences between men and women when it comes to what they look for in a partner. The things women look for can still be found in older men. One of the important things for men is literally youth. Example of study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8074860/ And the average 40+ woman is fat and wrinkled, so I don't get your point. I'm not saying that 40+ men are attractive to every woman, just that they're attractive to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 08:01 PM
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Sure, that may be true. But it doesn't change the fact that 40 year old women have far less potential partners than a 40 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:52 PM
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Entirely subjective list from me: Men: 10 - Nick Bateman 9 - Christopher Bumstead (10 to women who like muscleheads) 8 - Jake Gyllenhaal 7 - Ryan Gosling 5s and 6s are average guys we see every day, who aren't really "handsome" but also not really "ugly". Women: 10 - Shirosaki Aoi (I won't put a photo here, LOL, but she is a Japanese pr0n actress) 9 - Angelina Jolie in her prime 8 - StPeach, a streamer Somehow I couldn't really think of a 7, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 05:27 PM
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it’s usually men on here who say that men are the more easily pleased gender and are less shallow about looks etc Lol. You've gotta be kidding me. Only a delusional man would say that. No, the men here aren't usually saying that. What men do say, however, is that men are more transparent about how important looks are, while women like to pretend that they don't care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:59 PM
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Makes sense. Anyone who says that sluts are universally undesired is obviously wrong: there are men willing to wife up prostitutes and porn stars. Mia Khalifa and Riley Reid got married. That being said, what I think is more typically said is that promiscuous women have a much harder time finding a serious partner than promiscuous men. And I think that's true. Most people aren't promiscuous. Most women will have like 6~7 partners through life, and most men will have like 8. So a woman who spent …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:20 PM
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Women will always have more options than men at any age and at any point in life solely because of mens lower standards. Only for sex. A 40 year old man who is successful is attractive to more women he would be willing to marry than a 40 year old woman in the same situation is attractive to men she would marry. The reason being both hypergamy and female fertility. A 40 year old successful woman will want a man who is either richer or as rich as her. But guys in that position who want to have a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:52 AM
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Then substitute "wife-material" with "HVW". My point is simply that I don't think red-pillers in general want women who both aren't sluts but who also sleep with them quickly. That rule applies to women they want to sleep with, but not the ones they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:37 AM
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As with all things, TRP comes in a spectrum. However, I'd argue that those contradictions you've mentioned are mainly because the women being talked about in each case are not from the same group. For example, the "sluts" are a group of women that the red pill community says that you shouldn't consider for a serious, committed relationship. But they see no issue in having sex with them. So the rule of "Gotta have sex fast" mainly applies to women you want to fuck, not women you want to date. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:31 PM
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Personally, I don't have casual sex, and have only had sex with one woman in my life. But quite frankly, I don't see a problem with double standards in dating. At the end of the day, it's on the women to reject mansluts. If a guy sleeps around but is still pursued for relationships by multiple HVW and doesn't want to date women who have slept around, then I don't see a problem there. It's like a woman who isn't really professionally successful but who wants a man who will be able to provide for …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:09 PM
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Certain RP concepts have certainly helped me out. To name a few: Abundance mindset: When I was a teenager/young adult I suffered from severe oneitis and would become romantically interested in some specific women for years. Realizing that, even with my pretty high standards, there are probably tens of thousands of women I could date around the world, has certainly helped me stop being like that. AF/BB: Made me realize that I'd much rather stay alone for years and years than be with a woman who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:10 PM
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What a confusing post. In the original post, you seem to imply that a person should just disregard details from a person's past because they supposedly don't matter. Like what you said here: Honestly, if you’re getting ridiculous sex from your wife, do you really care what she did before you? That is already something I disagree with: the past matters to most men. Most men don't want to seriously date a woman who has been a sex worker, for example. So, if the OP is trying to argue that the past …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:58 PM
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Lolno. No matter your genetics, you're not going to go from fat/stickman physique to a shredded one in some months. Yes, genetics plays an important role in it, and some people have it harder than others, but it's not the main thing. Mostly anyone can get a very good physique if they do everything right (diet, working out, resting).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:53 PM
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Nah, that's just you coping, darling. Average women get showered with compliments all the time. If the only men complimenting you are older men, then, yeah... But I'm not saying that you're not physically attractive. Maybe you are. But judging from your hatred towards men that you apparently have, I'd wager that your personality is so intolerable for men that most stay away, as they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:00 AM
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It all depends on what "a good physique" is. Some people have unrealistic expectations, so the "good physique" for them is 8~10% bf and a good amount of muscles. And that should take some years even if you're on gear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:52 AM
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Beta Bux is just what noncommittal men call relationships. No, it isn't, wtf? Beta bux is a very specific kind of relationship, in which a guy accepted to be a provider for a woman who doesn't feel genuine attraction for him. There are lots of healthy relationships that do not involve betabuxxing. If he can't do better, what's the problem? Lol, do you also ask that question when talking about women in abusive relationships? It's not a matter of "not being able to do better". Many times, these gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:44 AM
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Women in general are the gatekeepers of sex. High value people are the gatekeepers of relationships. Women considered "wife material" have a lot of guys who want to date them, so she's gatekeeping relationships as well as sex. Granted, the traditional "wife material" woman isn't really common nowadays, but my point stands: being the gatekeeper of relationships isn't really a male thing IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 11:25 PM
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Cheating is pretty much always shitty. That being said, I don't understand what's your point with this defense of betabuxxing, and I'm a guy who's very far from being a "noncommittal man". Let's make the definitions clear so we can be sure we're talking about the same thing: betabux is the guy who spends most of his life being ignored by women, gets a decent job and accumulates wealth, studies and becomes more knowledgeable etc, and then a former CC rider decides to settle down with him because …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 04:22 PM
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All men are "at risk" of being sexually assaulted or murdered too. I'm not talking about risks, but about the usual, actual experience. I'm not unempathetic to the struggles of women, but you're talking about something else entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:40 AM
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My point was that the usual problem that average men face (finding it hard to be noticed by women) is worse than the usual problem that average women face, in the dating world. Unwanted pregnancies are at your control (celibacy), sexual abuse isn't an exclusively female experience, ticking biological clock has nothing to do with my point, being used for your bodies is at your control (celibacy), emotional abuse isn't an exclusively female experience. So, yeah, nice strawman, but not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 06:38 AM
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Doesn't FDS look down on guys with high n-counts? I thought it was a rule there that you didn't date guys who slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:12 AM
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The best part is when women try to argue that somehow women's problems in the dating world are just as bad as men's, "they're just different problems". They basically argue the following: "Just having sexual interest from guys doesn't help at all! It's just as bad as being a guy ignored by every woman he meets!" And they say that with a straight face. As if a guy who has an endless supply of McDonald's is doing just as bad as someone starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:10 AM
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That's some teenager-tier interpersonal skill, though. Speaking about an abusive ex when you're not even in a relationship with the person. Very dumb of her. It's one of the no-nos of dating, isn't it? Don't speak about exes in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:07 AM
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Not really. "Degeneracy" is too harsh a word, in my opinion. I think it's a shitty choice, but I see no reason why I'd fight against it. I just won't date women who have anything to do with it, and will do my best to educate my children (if I ever have them) to not choose that path. It's comparable to using drugs. I don't use them (other than alcohol very rarely), and I wouldn't want a child of mine or a significant other to be an addict. But I still defend people's right to choose that path, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 02:04 AM
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Sorry, what am I perpetuating? The stigma on sex work? I think you've misunderstood me: I don't have a problem with sex work having a stigma. I think sex work is very gross and, personally, I look down on sex workers who choose that path just because they want it (no, I don't look down on the ones who choose it because it's the only choice they had). My point was simply that the stigma on sex work will not cease to exist as long as society sees sex as something intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:55 AM
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Nah, sex work will always be seen as gross by most people, because most people see sex as something very intimate that shouldn't be broadcast to the world. The only way that stigma will ever be removed is if we live in a society so utterly promiscuous that most women are thotting around and sleeping with dozens of dudes. Maybe you'd like to live in that kind of society, but I certainly wouldn't, nor would most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:20 AM
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My understanding is that MGTOW is a reactionary movement. If relationships/marriages were a great thing to have for most men (like in the past, when women didn't have much of a choice other than to submit to men), there wouldn't exist a single MGTOW. Mind you, I'm not saying that the old times were better, it's certainly much better to be a woman nowadays than 100 years ago. My point is simply that MGTOWs appeared as a response to the multiple events related to female empowerment: divorces, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:08 AM
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I've honestly no clue what you're trying to get at. I like his content in general, I don't necessarily agree with every little thing he's ever said or done.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 07:05 PM
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Well, personally I am not interested in "attracting a large amount of women", I'm more interested in "attracting at least one woman I perceive as high quality". For that specific kind of woman I want to attract, I'd summarize her preferences like this: A man who is at least moderately attractive, who loves her and who values intellectual, physical and moral prowess, striving to be the most virtuous person he can be. But if I were to actually define the preferences of women in general, I'd use wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:23 PM
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The weird thing to me is that some people feel attacked by someone they are not interested in stating a preference that excludes them. I've experienced this a lot here on Reddit when talking about how the past of a woman matters to me, and I wouldn't want to date a woman who has had things like ONSs, multiple FWBs etc. Some even try to convince me that I should stop caring about it, lol. I don't know, I guess people don't like knowing they'd be instantly rejected by someone, even if that someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:19 AM
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Some, I guess. Some might have been humiliated by some girls they liked, while others were dumped for another, richer dude, and some others got cheated on. There are some pretty shitty women out there. I wouldn't generalize that most guys get mad at women just for being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:06 AM
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I like some RP content, like Alexander Grace, but Jesus Christ are those Fresh and Fit guys obnoxious. They basically pick the thottiest OnlyFans women they can find and parade them on their podcast as if they represent the "average woman", while regurgitating stupid things like "a woman can't be high value by herself, but only when judged by men" and seeing how the girls will react lol I agree with you that many RP men (not only influencers) have probably had some particularly negative experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:44 AM
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I honestly have no idea. I'm not "sexually liberal". Most people that I talk to seem to think that 1-2 new sexual partners a month is normal or standard these days. It's not. If the statistics are to be believed, the lifetime average for the number of sexual partners for women is like 5~7, and for men it's slightly higher, but still below 10, I believe. 1~2 new sexual partners a month in a year will already make a person more promiscuous than the average. Promiscuity is just one of those things …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 10:15 PM
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Women in general are the gatekeepers of sex. For relationships it's more complicated: high value people are the ones in high demand, so they are the gatekeepers of relationships. Women perceived as wife material (a dying breed, but they still exist) have lots of men wanting relationships with them. Same thing with HVMs. So yeah, I don't think men in general are gatekeeping relationships. Just high value people, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:56 AM
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Lol. Should probably automod please all comments then, since almost no one is actually trying to change OP's views.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:49 AM
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Not only that, but the women who complain about men like OP in general are women that OP wouldn't want to date anyway. I'm very similar to OP, and I don't give a flying fuck if a woman tells me that they wouldn't date me because they think it's misogynistic for me to care about a woman's sexual past. If they think that, chances are that it's because they're too self-conscious about their own promiscuous past, so why care about their opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:27 AM
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Mate, the point is very simple: saying that men have selected women for intelligence isn't proven by the fact that women have similar levels of intelligence to men. That's all. If intelligence is inherited equally by men and by women, then who knows how things could be different if men had selected partners for their intelligence? Maybe men didn't select for intelligence and people would be far more intelligent nowadays if they had, but we can't really know if that's the case. That's the only th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:59 PM
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No, that's not how genetics work. You have to prove that "male intelligence" differs from "female intelligence" genetically. As in, you have to prove that women inherit intelligence from their parents' genes differently than men. Otherwise, one could simply say that human beings in general (men and women) have similar levels of intelligence on average. Height is a good example. Men are generally taller than women, so it is likely that women inherit height differently than men. Now prove that it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:13 PM
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The fact that modern women are equally comparable to men in intellect shows it was a trait selected for. That doesn't make any sense, sorry. Both men and women are born from women. The fact that men and women have similar levels of intelligence (although there are differences, e.g. there tends to be more men on both extremes than women, hence why there are far more male geniuses than female geniuses) doesn't prove anything. My point being that that argument would only make sense if you could pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:53 PM
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Just world fallacy + People who can't really empathize with folks who are just too unattractive. To most people, it's hard to accept that life isn't really fair. It must be something that you're doing wrong. Cuz I know a 5'2 indian janitor who slays, so everyone can slay, brah! But jokes aside, another thing that happens is that many times, people who have given up just wallow in self-pity, so it gets annoying. If you've given up, then you should just stop talking about it to anyone, otherwise y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:35 AM
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I have no issue with having a partner for life, I just dislike the idea of losing assets that are mine because I've signed a contract that forces me to give it to her if she cheats on me. You are the one who seems to be under the impression that anyone who dislikes that should stay single, which is wrong. Unless by single, you mean unmarried, in which case I agree. What I'll probably look for is a woman who wants a monogamous relationship but doesn't want our assets to merge. The age of women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:17 AM
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So there's no way I can simply have a prenup to completely separate my assets from my spouse's? Why the fuck do people get married? Lol. I'm understanding MGTOWs more now. The divorce rate is too high for it to be sensible to marry when I can't even divorce keeping the things I bought with my own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:43 AM
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But isn't the point of a prenup to protect one's assets? What if I put in the prenup that I want everything that was bought by me to be mine, shouldn't that be upheld?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:33 AM
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Has anyone here ever seen a case of a prenup being considered invalid by a judge? I only see redpillers talking about that, but never heard of it actually happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:09 AM
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Guys who say that aren't the same guys who only want women who don't sleep around. That'd be an oxymoron, a woman who sleeps on the first date is obviously a woman who sleeps around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 01:30 AM
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I'd never date a woman who wants to sleep with me on the first date. The difference is that I'd also reject her proposition of having sex, while most guys would probably pump and dump. Most guys who actually care about a woman's past probably don't care about waiting as long as the woman is genuinely traditional. Not the "I've fucked dozens of guys before you but now I'm traditional" way of life, nor the "I'm making you wait while I fuck a FWB" way of life. Genuinely traditional, low n-count, fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:55 PM
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That's a good analogy, but men who are thirsty on social media aren't just signaling their horniness IMO. They have a direct line of contact with the woman in question, so they hope that somehow, some way, the woman might give him some attention. But anyways, my main point is that hoping that men will stop validating women's egos online is being too optimistic. Men will keep simping and there's no "we men should act like X" proclamation that will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:07 PM
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Should men? Probably, yeah. Will men? No. Men who are desperate for sex will always exist. If a sufficiently popular movement of men who don't validate women's egos were to emerge, that'd just make another movement of mega simps emerge as well, because they'd be like "Wow, less competition means I'm more likely to get a girl by calling her pretty!". Pussy is like Bitcoin (lol). If people start dumping Bitcoin with rumors of it being worthless, that wouldn't really make Bitcoin tank, because ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:49 PM
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But then the eternal sex war would cease to exist and we'd have a peaceful life where men and women actually try to empathize with and help each other. Why would you want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:20 AM
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That's the Reddit way of life. "Hummmmm, excuse me, women want sex as much as men do!" "Actually, the studies have consistently demonstrated that male libido is both stronger and more consistent than female libido, so that statement isn't really..." "LOL, self-reported data? How useless! All the boyfriends I've had had less libido than me, so you're wrong!" You just can't win when you're discussing with someone who wants to be right, regardless of how much you study it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:19 AM
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Well, what I consider "value" in terms like HVM/HVW is "being wanted". A HVM is a man that has a lot of value in the dating "market", i.e. many women pursue him. So a HVM can still be a guy who never commits, but who has tons of women after him dying for him to commit to them. But you can disagree, it's a matter of definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:14 PM
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That is indeed a very bizarre post. But the OP there is basically a complete outlier who for some reason thinks his view is common. Most men would neither want to date a whore nor a Tinder slut, but I'm pretty sure that if one were forced to choose, most would pick the Tinder slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:48 PM
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I'm not American, so I don't really understand that. Is Halloween a day when women are particularly more promiscuous in the US? Why is that? Parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:46 PM
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Alright, then keep believing that men would prefer dating a whore, I don't really have a horse in this race. It's just one of those things that are so obvious to most people that I found it fascinating how you actually think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:52 PM
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Marriage is a shitty deal for most people, men or women, I agree. But I don't see how that has anything with the subject at hand. Do you mean that the women aren't worth marrying because they're sleeping around?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:28 PM
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From the responses I've seen, most men aren't really agreeing with you, though, even the ones here. And outside of PPD, it's even more obvious that most men would prefer the Tinder girl. Again, I think you have a very rare way of looking at the sexual past of a woman. From what I've seen and experienced in life, men who care about the past don't care about whether the women have fucked up or down, just that they have fucked multiple men. IMO, the men who do care about the past would reject both …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:26 PM
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What's even more disgusting is how many people apparently find that kind of behavior acceptable. "You're not entitled to sex!!!!", they scream, as if that's what's happening. I think this American mindset of "You can fuck whoever you want if you haven't had an exclusivity talk yet" has fucked up the way many young people see relationships nowadays. I remember seeing a post about a guy who was going out with a girl like 3 days every week, taking things slow etc, they eventually started dating and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:22 PM
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You take up little space to add nothing to anything, so, I guess we're even? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:12 PM
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Lol, how condescending. So I "haven't figured out how the world works" because I wouldn't date a whore? That's funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 02:11 PM
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I don't think you're understanding the idea of a HVM who has a harem. There's no cheating involved. The guy is a rich, handsome man who doesn't commit. He isn't deceiving anyone. The bottom line is: would women prefer to be the fuck buddy of a HVM, or the girlfriend of a LVM, or even a medium value man? That's what OP wanted to know from what I could see, and my example is about that. Your example is: would women rather date a man who isn't that great but is loyal, of date a man who is great in …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:48 PM
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Lol, what? I've never in my life seen a guy who would rather date a whore than a woman who has slept around on Tinder. Personally, I wouldn't date either. But that seems like an absurd idea, OP. The men who care about past promiscuity, IMO, wouldn't want to date escorts at all. Caring about the sexual past of a woman isn't about whether the dicks that were inside her were high or low quality. It's about whether she has treated sex like something special only shared with people she loves, or if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:42 PM
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The difference is that in your example, the man who is supposed to be a HVM is a cheater, which is an oxymoron. OP's intention isn't to see if a woman prefers to date X or Y. It's to see if a woman would rather have an actual relationship with a loser, or be a member of the harem of a winner. And when we talk about the value of a man, money is part of it. Just like youth is part of the value of a woman. Speaking in terms of the dating world, of course. Hence why in my example the HVM is wealthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:27 PM
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But I don't think OP's question is about whether women like to get cheated on or not. It's about if women would rather share a high value man or have a serious relationship with a low value man. The gold digger who picks the rich guy says a lot about her, since she prefers being another fuck to a HVM than a real girlfriend to a LVM. Your hypothetical scenario is an interesting one, but it's different from what OP wanted to know, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:14 PM
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Exactly what I thought. Both are too bad. It's like asking women "would you prefer dating a guy who is kind but sucks in bed and will never get better, or a guy who makes you cum like crazy but cheats on you and is emotionally abusive?". Both suck. IMO, I'd change OP's men to "Handsome guy who is great in bed and is an ethical slut who will never commit to you, but is rich and will pay for dates, trips etc" vs. "Guy who is poor and not very attractive, but who genuinely likes you and will commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:04 PM
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Exes? Like ex-boyfriends? I don't see a problem with a woman with exes calling herself traditional, though. I'm talking about hook-ups. Women who have ONSs and FWBs and then act like they're "traditional". Or do you call people you've fucked your exes, even though you didn't officially date? If that's the case, then yeah, the same applies. My point is simply that having a certain past is a part of being traditional. Distance doesn't change that, especially in the age of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:49 PM
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I've even seen a woman here on PPD try to argue that "not having a promiscuous past" isn't a feature of traditional women. Apparently, in her opinion a woman could just ride the cock carousel during her early twenties and then become a traditional wife once she's married. I find that just absurd. The whole idea of being "traditional" or assuming a "traditional role" requires a person to have certain characteristics about his or her life as a whole. It doesn't just start counting once you're marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:13 AM
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One thing of note whenever this subject is brought up is how certain women (self-conscious high n-count women, I assume) like to proclaim "Then date a virgin!" as a counter to the fact that there's a clear correlation between past promiscuity and unfaithfulness. Do these people realize that a person can be something other than a "virgin" and a "slut"? For example, a woman who only has sex with boyfriends, which is a large amount of women in certain countries (maybe not in the USA, dunno). It's j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 10:16 PM
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It means no in regards to what you've asked me. I never felt annoyed at my GF for crying from what I can recall. The rest is just me rambling about what I'd consider annoying when it comes to crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:21 PM
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Not really. The only way I can see that being annoying is if it's too common. If someone is constantly crying I'd be worried that that's a sign of not being emotionally stable. But I'm obviously talking about crying because of things in daily life, like crying because she's stressed or crying because she's jealous etc. If those occurrences are too commonplace, I could see it becoming annoying. But if a woman always cries watching sad movies/animations, for example, that's fine by me. I also do l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 03:51 PM
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I do tend to empathize when people cry and feel sad, but I don't always cry myself unless I feel some connection to the person/story. For example, this video (https://youtu.be/UenRigbXLH4) always makes me cry like a little kid, and I've watched it more than 10 times by now. Probably because it touches on a subject that I had to experience (infidelity of a parent). But unlike most guys, I don't really care about crying in front of a partner. Yeah, some women see it as weakness if a guy is too emp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:35 PM
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Worried, I guess. I just comforted my ex when she started crying. Sometimes I'd start crying too because I'm a pussy who cries a lot, so we'd be just two crying people hugging each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 02:19 PM
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Lol, I understand it pretty well, mate. I see MGTOWs complaining about women "not being worth it" all the fucking time online. Sure, you can "no true MGTOW" me and say that the real MGTOWs don't complain about women, but that's a moot point when almost all famous MGTOWs online are whining about women. I myself have many common things with the MGTOW folks. I'm just saying that people who complain about the rules of the game tend to not be red pillers IMO, and yeah, MGTOWs and black pillers compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:49 AM
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Sure, but my point is simply that if you don't flirt, don't hit on the guy, don't show any clear indication that you're into him, you're not being rejected if the guy doesn't ask you out. If the guy doesn't know that you're interested, he can't be rejecting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:37 PM
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As I said, "average everything else". The question is about comparing those people assuming everything else , like intelligence, is average. And yeah, IQ helps with being successful, but some people would rather have high attractiveness and average IQ, than high IQ and average looks. I was just interested in seeing what people think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:10 PM
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I rank attractive men above attractive women because men are more respected than women in most societies. Using Twitter lingo that I despise, I believe that there is "male privilege", and so I'd much rather be an attractive man than an attractive woman. But yeah, if you only consider the aspect of making easy money, then an attractive woman has it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:39 PM
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I dunno, man. I'd rather be an ugly man than an ugly woman. Society really expects women to be beautiful, being an ugly woman must suck. But at the end of the day, both must suck majorly. People either pity you or avoid you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:31 PM
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But we're talking about rejection. If I'm not interested in a woman who's not interested in me, then I'm not rejecting her, nor is she rejecting me. And, since we're talking about rejection, my point stands: if you don't make it clear that you're interested in a man, then you can't say you've been rejected when he doesn't show interest in you. The bottom line being that sure, there are other kinds of rejection other than being shot down with a "no". But all of them require the rejected to have m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:26 PM
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If you're not flirting with the guy, as the poster you're responding to mentioned, then yeah, it's worthy of mockery. You're not being rejected if a man doesn't pursue you when you've shown no interest for him. Men can't read your mind. However, if the woman makes it very clear that she's into him, and the guy doesn't show any interest, then yeah, it's a rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:11 PM
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Sure, if you have those values you can just be a high-end escort or sugar baby and make a lot of money in a few years. But since we are assuming "average everything else", the average mindset is that sex work is a bad idea. So I'm considering more how easy daily life is, how happy they are, that kinda thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:04 PM
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Please rank the following people in terms of "how easy life is", assuming they're all middle class, 25 years old, average everything else: Attractive man, attractive woman, average looking man, average looking woman, ugly man, ugly woman. My opinion: Attractive man > attractive woman >>> average woman >>> average man >> ugly man > ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:47 PM
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The point of the video isn't men wanting a virgin, though. It's about women shaming men who don't want to date women with an extensive sexual past. There's a vast difference between wanting a virgin and not wanting a woman who has slept around. And no, it isn't controlling to have that preference. Women do what they want with their lives, but no man should feel forced or shamed into being okay with dating a woman who has made certain choices in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:29 PM
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He's great, the only red piller I actually enjoy watching. Especially the videos in which he presents some scientific studies about dating. One of my favorite videos from him is a recent one in which he talks about "the top 10 worst female behaviours". He presents what he considers to be "toxic femininity", and I found it pretty interesting, and even wondered what an open minded woman would think about that video. That most recent video from him is also pretty good. I've personally had to deal w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:26 PM
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Playing devil's advocate, I'd say that a red piller would say that even the women below him don't want him if he's average. As in, even lower class women want the "Chads". Also, there's the whole "working out and getting rich" in order to be able to attract women, and spinning plates. That's also them using hypergamy to their advantages. In my opinion, red pillers aren't really the ones complaining about not finding decent women to date. It's more the black pillers or the MGTOWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:19 PM
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Some people here actually do engage in productive conversations, and I personally like talking to women who are open-minded about men's dating struggles, but yeah, most of the time it's just men and women having mutual soliloquies lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:14 PM
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It all boils down to a lack of purpose, IMO. I like the ancient philosophers' concepts of eudaimonia and ataraxia, which were the main objectives in life to them. Eudaimonia being something like "becoming your true self", and ataraxia being something like having an "undisturbable self". If you apply concepts like those in our lives, at least for me it's pretty hard to see how the modern person can have either. We're contantly bombarded with how life should be with things like social media, so ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:31 PM
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Betabuxxing is such a pathetic thing for a man to do. Imagine going through life striving to become a stable provider only for you to end up in a relationship with some woman who was riding the CC all through her twenties, while ignoring guys like her future husband lol. Sadly, I believe that that will never stop. Some guys seem to genuinely see betabuxxing as a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:20 PM
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Oh, I see. So you'd be okay with being a guy's first if you're also his GF?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:53 PM
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Do you feel that it's contradictory for men to prefer younger women, when man's youth isn't really valued that much? Or for women to prefer men who make more money than them, when men don't really care about a woman making a good amount of money? I see no contradiction. Each sex has different expectations. Men care more about chastity than women. Also, I think your POV made more sense many decades ago, when female virginity was seen as this necessary thing for a woman to be valuable. That is far…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:51 PM
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Huh, I'm curious, why do you think you may not be able to deal with it? Do you fear that he'd just suck in bed? Being a woman's first would be something that I'd find pretty special, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:39 PM
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I believe it was this one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704921998333 And here is a simplified article explaining it: https://www.verywellmind.com/one-night-stand-regrets-5121045 It's even more interesting than what I said in the first post: men, more than women, regret not having casual sex when they had the opportunity, while women, more than men, regretted having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:30 PM
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I've always thought that that's a stupid thing that red pillers do. Acting as if that's a strictly female behavior, I mean. Saying something and doing the opposite is very common in people in general, not just women. "Do as I say, not as I do" is a pretty famous saying here where I live, not sure if it's famous in America too though. Hypocrites have always existed, and it's far easier to proclaim you espouse a certain ideal than to act according to it. It's far easier to say "I'm vegan" than to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:02 PM
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Not to mention the thousands and thousands of dollars that the man might spend to raise another man's kid. It's one of the worst things a woman can do to a male partner, excluding the obvious things like murder/rape etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:03 PM
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Here's a (literal) shower thought I just had: the reason why there's the stereotype that feeling "entitled to sex" is some predominantly male thing is that most men simply don't turn down sex, so we rarely ever see women acting entitled because a man doesn't want to fuck her. IMO, there's no one who feels more entitled to sex than an attractive woman who got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:58 PM
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Aren't most American men more interested in breasts than in asses? That has always been my impression. I'm Brazilian and most guys here prefer asses AFAIK, but the "ideal Brazilian woman" has both on the bigger side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 06:56 PM
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https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/155788v1.full I quote: In conclusion, our analyses of a much larger dataset than those used in previous studies showed strong support for the proposal that changes in hormone levels, and progesterone in particular, are related to changes in women’s general sexual desire (Roney & Simmons, 2016). https://majorityrights.com/images/uploads/sex\_differences\_BBC.pdf I quote: I computed a reliable (a = .82) multi-item self-report measure of sex drive, and in a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:32 AM
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No, women don't desire sex as much as men do. Women's libido is less consistent, and lower than men's. Plenty of studies showing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:07 PM
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If I had to guess, the "average man" wants to sleep around for a bit, but eventually have a serious monogamous relationship. As for me, I don't enjoy the idea of hookups and find the idea of having one single woman for the rest of my life very beautiful and desirable. I grew up seeing my mother getting cheated on by my father repeatedly, so I guess that had a severe impact on me. In the sense that I ended up despising the idea of being a guy who doesn't respect monogamy like my father didn't. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:03 PM
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So your point is what, exactly? Everyone should never speak up against that kind of retarded double standard that some women have because "Oh nooo, that's so effeminate!"? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:28 PM
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Men being intimidated by women who are successful. In my opinion, that's just a cope that 30+ yo women use to justify their choices of not marrying while they were younger, and now they have to compete with 20 yo cuties and it's easier to say that men are insecure/immature/pedos than to say that they've done goofed. Women rejecting men who have slept around specifically for that reason. I've had a discussion with a girl here who insisted that women are as disgusted at men who are sluts as men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 08:08 PM
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I don't think you've understood what I said. I didn't call the woman in question loose. I asked her if she thought it's fine to call women loose like she thinks it's fine calling men small-dicked, as a way to insult their femininity. Yes, if a guy lowers himself to the same level of the women they're criticizing, that's stupid. But it isn't what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:59 PM
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What? What's retarded about pointing out a double standard, mate? That's the "hobby" I mentioned. I point out the hypocrisy of people who complain about "toxic masculinity" while partaking in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:49 PM
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Good point. Not only is it more acceptable, but men themselves seem to enjoy propagating that in many circumstances, e.g. using expressions like "big/small dick energy", or feeling like they're more manly than their peers if their dicks are bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:47 PM
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Her implication was actually the opposite: she seemed to think it was acceptable for her to use "tiny dick" as a way to make fun of a man's masculinity, but saying a woman's loose is bad women's anatomy. As if, you know, it's not bad men's anatomy to imply that dick size has anything to do with character lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:43 PM
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What? Some women are tighter than other women, you know that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:39 PM
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Q4W: do you see any difference between insulting a man by saying he has a tiny dick, and insulting a woman by saying she's loose? I've recently had a discussion with a woman on another sub. She had said that a man had "fragile masculinity and a tiny dick". I told her that's body-shaming (one of my hobbies here on Reddit is saying that in those situations) and asked her how she'd feel if I called a woman loose or said that a woman had an Arby's sandwich between her legs, and she seemed to imply t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:36 PM
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What's an intellectual? A person whose career is thinking about something? Then 50/50, probably? But if you mean geniuses, then definitely men. There's that whole thing about how the normal distribution for IQ in men has more outliers on both sides than the distribution in women, so men have more idiots and more geniuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:19 PM
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Some guys are gonna be like that regardless of how you reject them. Some guys keep hitting on girls knowing they're in a relationship with another dude. Creeps gonna creep. Just be direct and respectful. "Sorry, I'm not interested". Anyone who doesn't understand that and lashes out on you has some issues they have to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 07:06 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:39 AM
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Personally, I see most things in these "pill" communities as caricatures of ideas. Like the black pill community and their memes about how "it's over" if you aren't over 6 feet, or if you're bald, or if you aren't particularly handsome, etc. Or the red pill community and their view about how almost all women are sluts who are constantly manipulating men to do their bidding. It's just an exaggeration of true experiences. Most men who are MGTOW, for example, have been burnt by some past experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 03:42 AM
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But peer is more when talking about someone in the third person, no? You can't come up to someone and say "Hello, my peer!", right? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:13 AM
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Is there a unisex word like "mate", to be used with any random person whose age is around yours? I'm not a native English speaker, but my impression is that calling a woman "mate" is weird, right? If there isn't a unisex word like that, what's the equivalent of "mate" to be used with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:08 AM
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I feel the same, OP. Casual sex is pretty prevalent in today's society, regardless of what some people are telling you ITT. I even saw someone say that they think there isn't much evidence that things haven't always been like this? Wtf? Lol. 100 years ago, a woman having a random fuck buddy would disgrace her and no man would want to marry her. How the fuck can someone think that things have always been like today is beyond me. Anyway. The "why" for your question is mainly because of women's sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 11:05 PM
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Seems like someone is too self-conscious about having been passed around by the homies. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:54 PM
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But I'm curious, what do you mean with "how women truly think we feel"? Don't you think that women, like men, might have been with a guy that she was more sexually attracted to than she is with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:51 PM
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Well, that's certainly how it works for you, but not really to me. Regardless of how women truly think and what they're really attracted to, the past still matters to me. No way would I feel comfortable dating a woman who's had a one night stand. I know this because I've dated a promiscuous woman and it was hell for me. Does It have to do with insecurity? Yeah, to a degree. But at the end of the day, I don't really want to date a woman who's been in bed with random fuckboys, regardless of how mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 10:28 PM
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Some guys care about the number itself. They say things like "If she's had more than 3 I wouldn't be comfortable with dating her". Other guys care about the nature of the relationships. They say things like "As long as it was sex in a commited relationship, I don't really care that she's had multiple partners in the past". I'm personally a mix or both. I mainly care about the nature of the relationships, so having things like FWBs, ONSs, and the like are deal breakers to me, even if it was years…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:44 PM
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Even the most liberal men would be turnoffed by more than 10. That's cap. The "most liberal men" don't really care, unless it's some ultra-fucked-up past like "she was my father's sugar baby" or something like that. Keep in mind that the "most liberal men" are out there in open relationships with porn actresses or prostitutes, lol. But the average man does care considerably about the past. And many women consider that to be a shallow reason to reject a woman. I know that because I care a lot abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:26 PM
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I'm personally disgusted by slutty women. But I have absolutely no clue how you mean that that implies an obsession with teens. I'm 27, the youngest I'd date would probably be like 20, not a teenager. Most guys who care about n-count like me don't want a virgin, mind you. They just don't want to commit to a woman who's fucked multiple guys with no commitment. ONSs, things like that. In no way is that the same thing as wanting a virgin. My impression is that some women seem to think that a man ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:49 AM
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Maybe. Regardless, life would be better for both men and for high-value women if men valued themselves more instead of simping for every girl and fucking whoever finds him mildly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:31 AM
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I'd argue that the ones interested in dating eventually would. That's assuming that no simps existed and that men stopped debasing themselves for female attention, of course, which will never happen. I'm just saying that if such a significant change were to happen, women would either become more willing to show interest in the men they want, or they'd risk being single for life. Now, of course, one must also note that saying "men should see themselves as the prize" does not mean "men should stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:40 PM
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Maybe those women don't want attention and only allow close friends to follow them. Maybe they get it via DMs and don't tell you. Maybe they get it via likes. Who knows really. But just being a woman on Instagram, in my opinion, is already enough for her to attract simps. She doesn't have to post bikini pics or photos doing sexy poses. Men are thirsty, and if they know a woman is single, many will be all over them. About your case: I don't think you should comment, no. That'll just feed her ego,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:00 PM
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A fake personality put on for show in many cases. At least the ones in Hololive. They have to fake being precious little princesses who never date, never have sex etc. Just a manifestation of idol culture in Japan. But I agree that simping for the likes of Alinity and Amouranth is like simping for a literal prostitute. By the way, Sasha Grey and Kaho Shibuya, both ex-porn stars and probably ex-escorts are also streamers who have simps. It's just an endless supply of low value men willing to give…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:39 AM
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They have to deal with it more when compared to men. It's okay to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 01:04 AM
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Everything everywhere is up for discussion. I'm just saying that if you discuss things with people that didn't ask for your opinion on something, you'll probably, and rightly, be ignored. I personally entertain people's screeching about my preferences for fun, but it's worthless and unproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:34 PM
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I agree if the person mentioned it asking for a discussion on it. What happens, however, is that sometimes a person will mention a preference to explain something, and people will screech at that person's preferences, when that wasn't even the point. It's pointless to give out your opinion on something when the person is asking for your opinion on something else. e.g. a woman says she wants to know where she can find men who are Asian because she's more into them, and some guy comes in calling h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:08 PM
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Simping is the inevitable result of social media becoming more and more ubiquitous in the life of young people, IMO. An average woman who wants attention from men can get a whole lot of it if she has an Instagram account. And yeah, I know, not the girls who are on PPD. We are all special snowflakes here. But I'm talking about general trends that I believe exist. So, yeah, if a man is an average Joe schmo, he might feel like he has no woman with average looks who's available for him to pursue. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 07:55 PM
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Yeah, I feel like people get their panties in a bunch when they see someone having dating preferences that exclude them, and I've personally never understood that. As you've said, dating is always an exclusionary process. No one is like "give me literally anyone and I'll date them". Well, maybe some incels are, but most normal people will have certain standards that will exclude a lot of people. Can people criticize my preferences? Sure, but I don't see the point. Do I find it ridiculous when a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:54 PM
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Eh, I think it's clear that I'm talking about appearances, phenotypes, and not about cultural characteristics. I just don't like using the term "race" by itself, since I've seen people get annoyed at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:48 PM
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How do you all feel about racial preferences when it comes to dating? Is it racist to say "I'm only interested in dating people from this specific ethnicity"? What about saying "I'm not interested in dating people from this specific ethnicity"? How would you feel if you had started dating someone and eventually found out that your ethnicity was one of the things that made your BF/GF initially interested in you? EDIT: to be clear, I'm talking about appearances, not about the cultural aspect of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:37 PM
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I only saw the responses of the "would you date a bisexual woman?" thread, I even answered it by saying that I would as long as she had values similar to mine and wasn't promiscuous. From what I could see, most guys who said they wouldn't said that bisexual women were probably going to want to date women eventually. Which I personally find ridiculous, a straight woman doesn't suddenly decide to date other men, so no clue how bisexual women would feel differently. Btw, my comment there spawned a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:09 PM
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Who people sleep with tells me a lot about who they are. I don't think the average person would disagree with this sentiment, since the average person doesn't really sleep with many people. Regarding the supposed double standard you believe exists, it's probably because: Women typically don't see men sleeping around as a dealbreaker, so they don't tend to think that a man's choices when it comes to sexual partners tells them a lot about who the men are other than that they are desired. Men typic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:52 PM
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Way to miss the point, huh? OP was comparing women with men, not attractive women with unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:22 PM
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The men at the top, sure. But the idea isn't that all men are at the bottom, just that the people at the bottom tend to be men, as OP explained. And that idea is something I found interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 09:33 AM
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I agree with you that men should start seeing themselves as the prize. These men are out here going to the gym everyday, dieting, working their asses off to become rich, etc etc etc. Only for them to end up chasing women whose main special characteristic is "I'm pretty tee-hee". It's stupid. If men started valuing themselves more, things would be much better for all men. But let's be honest, that'll never happen. The simp is the natural state of an average male in the modern times. Social media …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:58 AM
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Very interesting point in that last paragraph. Historically, men have been the ones "guiding" humanity, but at what cost? The patriarchal constructs ended up ensuring that women had on average more guarantees of not being at the bottom than men. Fascinating thought, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:52 AM
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But it does change things, regardless of how much. Now please leave the poor strawman alone, he's been beaten enough already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 07:20 PM
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Labels are useful when talking about trends, but not when talking about individuals in my opinion. Labels generally make people have a cult-like obsession with what's "the true way to think". If you're in the black pill community and say that anything other than beauty and height matter, you're a coper. If you're in the MGTOW community and say that some women are high value women who would make great wives, you're a blue pilled loser. So I maintain what I've said, I wouldn't want to identify mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:23 PM
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You're splitting hairs here. No, it's not going to make the woman have thousands of women wanting to fuck her. But there will still be more people who she's willing to fuck than if she were straight. Which is the entirety of my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 06:19 PM
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That's 5% more people available than straight people have. Which, in terms of absolute numbers, is actually quite a lot. And since, from my limited experience, promiscuity is considered fairly commonplace within the gay community, my point stands: a bisexual woman is more likely to be promiscuous. But it's obviously not a certainty, so I wouldn't see a problem in dating one if she hasn't slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:28 PM
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You can be, but promiscuity does have a correlation with infidelity, so, yeah. Agree on the other point about sexuality and n-count, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:18 PM
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If she's strictly monogamous and our values are aligned, I don't see why not. The only potential problem I see is that bisexuals have a higher chance of being more promiscuous than straight people (since, you know, they have the other half of the population as potential partners), so I'd have to ask her about that. But if she hasn't slept around (with men nor women), then I'd see no problem in dating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:17 PM
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Yeah, labels like this are generally cringe and stupid, IMO. For example, I'm a guy who has been single for a long time, just focusing on my career, avoiding relationships etc, but calling myself a MGTOW would attach a lot of other, undesired negative things to me. I also understand the "pretty privilege" and how men who are more handsome than me will have a much better experience with dating than me, but I'd never call myself a "black piller" because that's retarded (and associated with the inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:12 PM
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Good point, though in the case of it being the "equivalent of makeup", I'd change it to "flaunting his wealth". Since makeup is about looking better than what you naturally are, so the equivalent for a man would be using money to show off and seem more interesting than he is, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 04:07 PM
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Trauma? Sure. But that's different from what the other guy was talking about. That guy's argument was basically that female libido is lower because many men don't care about the woman orgasming. That's not traumatic. So for this case, yeah, I think it's a reach to say that it would affect libido. Regardless, it's a speculation with no good evidence, so while anyone can believe in whatever they want, I personally don't see a reason to believe in it. Btw, another good counter evidence is the exist…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:31 PM
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Sorry to hear about your experience. What you describe as the ideal is pretty much the archetype of the male hero that has existed since forever, IMO. The masculine figure that is a protector, kind and loyal, willing to sacrifice himself etc. I guess archetypes exist for a reason, since my ideal is pretty much the "motherly feminine archetype" lol But yeah, I don't envy being a woman who wants LTRs tbh. Sure, it's easy for you to have sex, but a woman who wants a man to commit has to deal with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 11:06 PM
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Both are disgusting and the person belongs to the streets. I'd feel angrier at the "drunken ONS", probably, since that'd make me feel disappointed with my bad choice of a partner. But both suck tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:52 PM
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How would you define this ideal version of men? I'm curious. I also have an "ideal version of women" that I got from growing up reading romantic manga, lol. The "ultra-pure, ultra loyal" kind of deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:49 PM
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Duly noted, but my feelings are my feelings and I will act as I see fit with my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:18 PM
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Lol, think what you will. I was just sharing my experience. It's not like I'll "saddle" anyone, I'll just avoid a very specific subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 10:05 PM
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Absolutely. But my point is that I won't really believe a woman about it anymore, since I had the experience I mentioned. So I'd rather just not talk about it with a woman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 09:55 PM
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I've lived in Japan for about one year. My impression regarding this subject is that, while being a multifaceted issue, one thing that strikes me as particularly relevant is how "introvert-oriented" japanese culture is. Talk to any foreigner living in Japan and most will agree with this statement: "it's hard to befriend Japanese people". My experience there was that it was both very hard to start a friendship there, and also very hard to maintain it. You can think that someone is your friend, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 02:06 PM
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Not in the sense of the drive changing, I think. If you're talking about the experience affecting how much sex the person will want, sure, I agree. But the studies are about sex drive, i.e. feeling horny. I don't believe people will feel less horny because of past bad sexual experiences. Otherwise, incels wouldn't have a sex drive since their experience with sex is negative/non-existent. But their libido doesn't change just because they're incapable of getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 01:08 PM
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Another nerve was hit with the white knight comment, huh? Keep going, mate. You'll find your damsel in distress one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:53 PM
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That's a lot of unfounded, unsubstantiated claims you've got there. Go write an article showing that that's a significant reason for female libido to be lower than male libido. Until then, I'll keep "seeing things the way I do", i.e. trusting the research done on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:28 PM
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It's just that your claim is a non sequitur. Sex drive doesn't have anything to do with enjoying sex, it has everything to do with wanting sex. A person with a high sex drive will masturbate a lot, for example. It's not a matter of simply "they don't want sex because men suck", that's just plain stupid, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:22 PM
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Wow, you're the first white knight I've seen in a long time. I thought your kind had died out. I'm sure milady is waiting for you in the next thread, mate. Gotta protect her feelings, can't allow them to see that some men will find her boring, right? LOL But keep seething. It's honestly hilarious seeing a man being this angry at the fact that another man thinks some women are boring for having boring hobbies. I can only imagine how much you'd shit your pants if I told you how I look down on sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:20 PM
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Congrats...? No idea how that has any relation to what I'm saying, which is that the studies on libido show that male libido is higher than female libido. Unless you're implying that your personal experience somehow invalidates the academic studies on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:11 PM
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They're boring to me. I get to call them boring. You shitting your pants and getting annoyed at me for stating my preference: Doesn't change how I feel. Is hilarious. You're not "correcting" (lol) anyone, mate. You know what happens when someone thinks I'm unattractive, boring, uninteresting? Nothing. I don't "correct" them, because they have the right to think so. By the way, you are also boring as fuck, holy shit what a pointless conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:08 PM
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What? Do you understand what a double standard is? What is the double standard that you think I have? I have something that I value more than another thing. That's not a double standard. And yeah, you're certainly not offended. Your reaction is certainly that of a person completely unfazed by my comments. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 07:42 PM
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Apparently they do. I've recently had a discussion here with a woman who insisted that women reject men for their sexual past as much as men reject women for the same reason. Which sounds delusional to me, but yeah, apparently some women really care about a man's past. Which is fine by me, I also care about a woman's past, so it's only fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:34 PM
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Ehh, I don't know about that, chief. Men in general don't want to marry a slut, so why do sluts exist? Because there are men willing to fuck women they wouldn't date/marry. Do you not think that the same logic applies to men who are sluts? They exist because there are women willing to sleep around with them, plain and simple. But I do agree with you that a man slut has a much easier time finding a LTR than a slutty woman, if that's what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:27 PM
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You missed my point. People who get angry at men who don't want sluts are generally sluts themselves, with some occasional exception here or there. So why do men who are sluts not get offended when a woman says that he's automatically disqualified from dating her for having a high n-count? That's my point. Slutty women get angry when a man says he wouldn't date her for her past, but I've never seen a man having this kind of emotional response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:24 PM
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Makes sense. Weird in both cases when people get angry at other people having different standards from them, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:20 PM
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Has anyone ever seen a woman saying that they don't date promiscuous men, and having men REEE at her for saying that, calling her insecure and things like that? I've just realized that I've seen the opposite happen a whole lot, but never the case I mentioned. And I have seen a lot of women here saying that they're disgusted by mansluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:07 PM
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Lol, imagine women existing. There's only one gender, women are just weak men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 03:35 PM
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What I think happens is that apparently some women seem to believe that a man should be happy that they see them as "a man to marry" even though she wouldn't have seen him as "a man to fuck" in her earlier years. I can only speak for myself, and my problem with the term in question is simply that I'd feel emasculated knowing that a partner doesn't describe me as "hot" whilst she described past partners of hers like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:46 PM
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Who said anything about a dad? Did I hit a nerve with some comment of mine? Why are you so angry? You should try therapy, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:38 PM
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Lol. "Untrue because I said so, also, your study is invalid because I said so, try again". Carry on with your coping. Male sluts will keep being chased and female sluts will keep being shunned as "Just good for a quick fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:37 PM
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Based on common sense. Do you get off on being a contrarian, mate? On disagreeing with things that are obviously true? Okay. There are as many young women who are into knitting than there are women who watch Netflix as a hobby. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:32 PM
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Not to the same degree. If you honestly think that there are as many men interested in dating a promiscuous woman, as there are women interested in dating a promiscuous man, then quite frankly you're delusional. Ask literally anywhere. It's obvious that the sexual past of a woman matters way more to a man, than the sexual past of a man matters to a woman. And if you don't think anecdotes are worth anything, then just read studies on romantic love. Like this one: https://www.frontiersin.org/artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:30 PM
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This isn't really a matter of opinion, although women on Reddit like to delude themselves into thinking that female sex drive is on the same level as male sex drive. Here are two studies on it: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/155788v1.full I quote: In conclusion, our analyses of a much larger dataset than those used in previous studies showed strong support for the proposal that changes in hormone levels, and progesterone in particular, are related to changes in women’s general sexual de…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:26 PM
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Maybe there are, but there are probably far more young women who don't and who watch Netflix and listen to music. Hence my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:32 PM
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Not really anti-snobbery. I just think your attitude of trying to convince yourself that "ackshually, this guy doesn't really understand about classics" is ridiculous. But frankly, keep seething. It's funny to see how triggered you are at one single mention of a book. Next time I'll pick a more obscure classic like, eh, I don't know, The Metamorphoses from Ovid? Hopefully that'll meet your requirements for being "classic enough". LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:57 PM
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No, I meant generic hobbies that everyone has, like listening to music or watching Netflix. Very few young women are into the things you're mentioning, so it doesn't really apply to what I said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:47 PM
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Lol. You presume to know that from one single book I've mentioned? Would you have preferred it if I had mentioned Hesse? Ishiguro? Camus? Fuck off with your "my snobbery>your snobbery", mate. Also, downvoting is against the rules here, you should learn that if you want the community to keep being decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:32 PM
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Yeah, hobbies that are basically things almost everyone does, especially those that can be done with absolutely no effort, are hobbies I find pretty boring. Apparently, this opinion of mine is triggering to some people. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:18 PM
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Mate, me saying that I find some women boring isn't saying that "they're lesser". I'll never understand people like you, who get offended at some people having different preferences than you. I, the person writing this comment, feel like this. I value reading literature and philosophy more than binging Netflix. It does have more value, to me Not to you? Okay, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:11 PM
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Sure, I don't know how that's in any way related to what I said, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:08 PM
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Jesus, you really got triggered by this comment, huh? I've read plenty of classics in my life, but I don't have anything to prove to a random redditor, so if you want to believe that I'm just faking that that's a hobby mine, eh, I honestly don't care. Btw, a classic being popular doesn't make it less of a classic. What a stupid take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 12:07 PM
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Yeah, I find them boring. You find me snob. Who cares what random redditors think about other random redditors? And yeah, you're sure showing me that you don't care with your messages calling me a "fake intellectual", "you ain't fancy" etc. Completely unaffected. Lol. Lastly, nice hypocrisy saying that "art is art" just after you tried to make fun of me reading manga. I guess intellectual activity isn't your forte? Would explain your defensive response to my posts. Relax. I find you boring and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:12 AM
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Perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension. I didn't bash on anyone. I said that women who only (AKA solely, exclusively) have those kind of hobbies are boring. And they are. As are the men who only have generic hobbies. And yeah, I enjoy reading manga, and also enjoy reading high literature. Ever read "One hundred years of solitude"? It's pretty good, I recommend it. But it seems like I've hit a nerve, huh? If "I ain't fancy" why do you care what I think? Lol. It's always amusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:03 AM
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Yeah, if a woman fakes having intellectual interests that'd be bad, but what's your point? Do you presume I'm a "fake intellectual" for having these preferences? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:55 AM
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Lol, what sort of projection is this? All hobbies I've mentioned are ones I have. This isn't s gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:54 AM
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Don't have sex with a man who has not committed to you. Still not 100% guaranteed because some guys are psychopaths and are willing to become a woman's boyfriend just to get in her pants. But at least the chances of being played get significantly reduced, since most guys who only want sex will just get bored and go on to the next woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:23 AM
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It isn't. When I was in University I enjoyed reading books that were not about the degree I was getting. There are all sorts of people out there, some women are in college and also have hobbies that I find interesting. Also, we always make time for what we find important. I'm not saying that all men should have the same standards as me, that'd be ridiculous. I'm just saying that any woman that only has generic hobbies is boring. The same obviously applies to men. But the bottom line is that if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:18 AM
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Who said I expect anything of you? I'm 27 years old. Btw, did you... Downvote my comment? For stating my preferences? In a sub that has a rule against downvoting? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:13 AM
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Of course. If a woman's hobbies are the generic "travelling, watching Netflix, listening to music" and things like that, I can assume that she's as boring as a rock. Personally, some hobbies I'd find enticing in women would be: reading classic literature and philosophy, learning new languages, knowing about investments, enjoying Manga/Anime, to name a few. I think most men probably care (or at least should care) about a woman's hobbies if they're interested in having a LTR. Focusing only on attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:01 AM
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Is the "quiet part" there the sexual details about a spouse/BF? I don't know, I personally would feel happy if I overheard a girlfriend telling a friend of hers I'm amazing in bed. I've actually always found it weird how women apparently think it's fine to share those details regarding random fucks, but not when it's regarding a loving partner. But maybe that's just been my personal experience and most women don't do that? Who knows? Certainly not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:32 PM
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Oh, you're a woman. I actually thought you were a man, since you said "we think most all women are wife material because...", lol. Anyway. I agree with your point that men have less incentive to be loyal husbands than women, since the belief that men can sleep with other people and it wouldn't be cheating, but women can't do it, is sadly commonplace. But I personally feel like in the modern world, especially in richer countries, both men and women don't have much incentive to want to marry. We l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:27 PM
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Thank you for proving my point, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:30 PM
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Lol, maybe you think like that, but no, I certainly don't think that "most women are wife material". There are plenty of things to take into consideration for me to think of a woman as marriage material, the idea that marriage is good just because it allows me to have a companion is, quite frankly, absurd. But whatever floats your boat, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:30 PM
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Lying because they'd be judged is still shitty. Two wrongs don't make a right. And it's better to be alone than to be with a guy who wouldn't want to be with you if they knew about your past. Sorry about your traumatic experience. Hope they rot in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:22 AM
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Because that's not really why guys are against being called "husband material". The thing is, if you ask a guy if he'd rather be called "hot as fuck man who makes me cum like crazy" or "sweet and lovable husband material guy I can trust", I'm pretty sure most would pick the first. But in real life, it's not like a man is either one or the other. A guy can be a lovable husband and still be hot and make the woman have multiple orgasms. The problem, IMO, comes more with the fact that people typical…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:58 AM
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Some men don't care. Most do. So it's the moral responsibility of the woman to be honest and tell him about her past as a sex worker. Otherwise, yes, she's deceiving him by omission. Same thing obviously applies to men's past. At the end of the day, you and your colleagues do what you want. I'm just telling you that hiding the fact that you were a sex worker in the past is deceitful. Otherwise, why not tell him if there's nothing wrong with your past? If men are more liberal minded and wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:39 AM
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Of course, deceit has no place in a decent relationship. It's not a gendered issue. And it is deceiving. If you know that most people care about something and you omit it, you're deceiving him. Deceit by omission is still deceit. Holding on to the idea that "He didn't ask me, so I have no obligation to tell him" is disingenuous and I'm sure you know that. And yeah, you're not obligated to say it. But a decent person would say it because, again, a decent person understands that deceit has no plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:22 AM
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Was Trump a good president? I'm not American, but looking from the outside it seems like the USA is so polarized that it's hard to get a rational response to the above question from an American. But since PPD has the cream of the intellectual crop of Americans, I'm sure it'll be different here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:49 AM
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Not trying to be one of those "ackshualy" commenters, but it depends too much on the kind of women a guy likes. I personally think cute Asian women are more attractive than any American sex symbol like Scarlett Johansson or Angelina Jolie (in her prime). Just saying this because you said "universally desirable", and I don't think there really is such a thing. Speaking in terms of the "attractiveness scale", I don't believe there are universal 10s. The most attractive women are at most universal …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:43 AM
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Saying that someone who is not willing to date an ex-prostitute should marry a virgin (LOL) just shows how absurdly unusual your point of view is. Hopefully you're just being facetious and you understand that many women are not virgins but would also never prostitute themselves. But anyway, if you want to keep believing that there's nothing wrong with deceiving a man about your past, you're free to do so. But that does make you, and all your colleagues doing it, a very shitty person. Just ask mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:28 AM
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Judging by the amount of women I see on Reddit saying that they are considerably attractive (because their female friends said so), and adding to that the amount of retarded simps willing to debase themselves for a crumb of attention from women, I'd definitely say that they overestimate their attractiveness. Also, most women I see think that they are worthy of a HVM. Which makes me think that they think of themselves as HVW. Even if they're sleeping around with randos from Tinder, they still thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:22 AM
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No because cheating is someone's behaviour in a relationship that actually affects the relationship, it's not even comparable FGS 😂 Yet another example of how it's unlikely we can see eye to eye. A past of prostituting yourself can most certainly affect the relationship. Do you actually not know about the multiple studies showing a correlation between past promiscuity and infidelity? A person most definitely has practical reasons not to want to date/marry a person who used to be a prostitute, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:01 AM
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Eh, it's not about living a sheltered life. Most men, even old men, would find that situation disturbing. Finding out that the woman you love used to prostitute herself is something that most men would feel disgusted at, pretty sure. Lol, sorry but I laughed at the "It's irrelevant". That's not up for the woman to decide. Everyone knows that it's a dealbreaker to most men, they have the moral obligation, if they have any shred of decency, to mention it to them. But most want to have their cake a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:43 AM
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although not sure how he would know really.. You would mention it... No? Having a past as a sex worker is a dealbreaker to most men, omitting that from a potential partner is a horrible thing to do IMO. I've heard a horror story about a woman who used to be a prostitute and then married a guy and never told him about it. She eventually met an old client of hers who came up to her while she was together with her husband, saying something like "Hey, I didn't know you were working around these part…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:17 AM
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Hopefully you don't think that simply stopping to be a prostitute makes most men suddenly be okay with the fact that you were a prostitute. What I'm saying applies to being an ex-prostitute as well. I don't think you're naive enough to think that guys would be okay with marrying you as long as you stopped being a prostitute, right? The past matters, to some degree, to most men. Personally, I think you're too optimistic with your dating prospects. There are very decent women out there with good c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:22 PM
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Sure, I don't deny that you'll have some guys willing to date you. Doesn't change the fact that being a whore significantly shrinks the dating pool of a person. Your argument seems to be "there are some guys who'd date me, debunked!", but I never said that no man is interested in dating a sex worker. What I said was: "Most men wouldn't wife up a woman like that". Which is true. Some are willing to date to have lots of quality sex. But most probably wouldn't even date a whore, much less marry one…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:10 PM
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Are you genuinely trying to provide the fact that a drug dealer was interested in dating you... As an example that men are interested in dating a sex worker? Lol. I can assure you that the vast majority of men are not willing to date a whore. This isn't a matter of perspective or opinion, just common sense. Btw, hopefully you didn't downvote that comment of mine, but if you did, I recommend reading the sub's rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:01 PM
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But we do. I'm entitled to feel how I feel about sex workers and you are entitled to feel how tou feel. Our feelings are different, but we agree that we both should accept the right of the other person to feel how they feel. So we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:53 PM
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Glad we agree with each other, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:42 PM
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This is a pointless thing to talk about. The woman who is whoring herself out on OnlyFans can believe that she's not selling her dignity or her body. Of course, who's arguing that it's objectively true? It's all a matter of opinion. So you want to believe that there's nothing disgusting about sex work? Knock yourself out. It won't change the fact that many men will think that she's selling her body/dignity/decency or whatever else. But yes, it's not "the objective truth". It can't be, because a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:51 PM
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Again, no. The study is not about menopause, but about how female libido varies according to the phase of her menstrual cycle. Why would they pose the same questions to the same women in each test session? To see if their responses change depending on their current hormonal levels. That's why I said female libido is more inconsistent, because it varies according to the time of the month, while male libido is pretty much always the same, starting to decay only after he's getting considerably olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:38 PM
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No, it is not incorrect to say it's lower. It's factual. I'm talking about actual studies, not TED Talks. Here are two studies on it: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/155788v1.full I quote: In conclusion, our analyses of a much larger dataset than those used in previous studies showed strong support for the proposal that changes in hormone levels, and progesterone in particular, are related to changes in women’s general sexual desire (Roney & Simmons, 2016). https://majorityrights.com/ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:18 PM
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Sure, just like it's a feeling to be repulsed by prostitutes, sugar babies and porn actresses. Most men wouldn't wife up a woman like that. So what if it's a matter of feelings? It has practical consequences in the lives of those women. Reputation matters, you liking it or not liking it doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:54 PM
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Women do have lower libido on average, that's not a matter of opinion. Just Google it, plenty of research has been done about it, most of it ends up with the conclusion that female libido is both significantly lower and more inconsistent than male libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:45 PM
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For sure. She even lied to me about not having had sex with certain guys she was friendly with, because she knew I wasn't comfortable with it. Overall a very shitty experience, do not recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:58 AM
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Probably both. But I agree with you that girth is better to have, and probably better for the woman too. The insistence on length being important is mainly due to porn, methinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:25 AM
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Only people insecure about their past have any problem with people judging otherr by their past. It's absolutely ridiculous, as if the past is some sacred aspect of life that shouldn't ever be addressed. Rejecting a guy because he is not tall enough? Not handsome enough? Too fat? All fine. Rejecting a woman because she's had ONSs with multiple men? How dare you, that has nothing to do with you! You're just insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:55 PM
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Ehhh, that'd be way too much wishful thinking if I wanted to believe that that wasn't how she really felt. "Locker room talk" when it comes to positive experiences, when talking about another person, is very unlikely to be embellished in my opinion. Men will typically embellish their own performance, how he made her cum like crazy etc. Women, no clue what sort of lies they'd tell in that situation. Maybe saying that the guy sucked in bed because he dumped her? Dunno. But saying that the guy's di…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:38 PM
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Here's a terrible anecdote I have from my own experience: My ex-gf once told me nonchalantly that she had had a FWB with a very big dick. Completely out of the blue (we were talking about porn, I believe, but not about personal experiences). Probably because she noticed that that wasn't a wise thing to mention, she immediately started to tell me about how terrible it was, that she could only feel pain etc etc etc. I could only think "If it was so bad, why did she keep having sex with him?", but …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:42 PM
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Here's a question for red pillers: is there any factual evidence that women are affected more negatively by casual sex than men? I've seen too many guys talk about "damaged pair bonding", but it just seems to me like that's just cope from guys wanting to justify why they feel disgusted by promiscuous women. Instead of saying that it's just that they feel disgust, they try to find some practical reason for it. But I've seen that promiscuity increases the likelihood of infidelity, so maybe there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:14 PM
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Christian women have the idea that they must be submissive to their husbands. But not that they are less than them, I think. Just that that's how God expects them to be, each spouse with certain responsibilities and obligations. I'm not a Christian, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:09 PM
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Well, that arrangement of yours is more like a boyfriend/girlfriend thing than a FWB relationship IMO. If you're both sexually monogamous, I mean. What's missing there that makes you consider him a FWB and not a boyfriend? If you have an expectation of fidelity from him and he has the same from you, then you're pretty much dating in my book. Would you not feel heartbroken if he decided that he wanted to date another woman? Wouldn't he feel heartbroken if you did the same? I dunno, I think your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:27 PM
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I'd define it pretty much as you've defined it. But having a FWB in my opinion is having casual sex. To me, if I'm not in a loving relationship with a person and there's no commitment, then it is casual sex. I know I feel like this because my one and only ex-gf had had some fuck buddies that were good friends with her and I was very turned off by that. One reason I've just realized is that I've had too many guy friends who were players and saw how they speak about them even when they're friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:04 PM
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Well, I'm speaking as a man who's had many male friends who sleep around. Maybe you and your female friends are different, but I can assure you that there's no shortage of women willing to date promiscuous men. The opposite, however, is not quite true. You saying "no" to what I said doesn't really change that reality. At the end of the day, there's an asymmetry in what men and women look for in a partner. A man can be 30 yo and not want to date women his age. Double standard. A woman may be a St…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:25 PM
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No, I've only slept with one woman, whom I've dated. That being said... I've started to think that the whole "You have to be chaste to expect chastity" thing isn't really true. Double standards in relationships are a normal thing. For example, women are hypergamous when it comes to professional success or wealth. Most people accept that a woman can want to date a guy who is more successful than she is, and I've never seen someone say "But are you yourself also a CEO!?" to a girl who is trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:49 PM
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I'm just not interested in dating women who have a view on sex that differs from mine. I wouldn't have a FWB, so I don't want to date women who are into having that kind of relationship. Same with ONSs, actually worse with ONSs because I'm very put off by women who have it, romantically speaking. But as I've said, I know that my standards are too much for most people to find reasonable. I've had some long discussions here on Reddit because of them, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:41 PM
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I'm a 27M, most decent dudes I know have a pretty high bar for relationships. They'll sleep with any attractive girl who's into them, of course. But for relationships, I notice that they typically prefer girls who have a more motherly vibe. Maybe it's because I'm at an age in which people have to consider their girlfriends as soon-to-be wives. I have a friend who's a major player, 30+ n-count, but his last gf was one of those forever-girlfriends who had just gotten out of a very long relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:43 PM
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Sounds like you're the one needing to understand analogies. No clue how you interpreted that post literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 11:54 PM
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Lol, objectively 40% isn't "the majority", that's not a matter of perspective. It's still a large percentage. I doubt you'd take a chance with something that would have 40% chance to kill you. I'm actually quite surprised with that number. 40% of women having had one-night stands is quite a lot IMO, I though one-night stands were much rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:59 PM
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40% of women in western countries having "had" a one night stand isn't significant. Pretty significant from my POV. I wouldn't want to date a woman who's had one. If it is this common, then I'd argue that it is clear indication that there is such a thing as hook-up culture. Also, about this quote of yours: People can't be having less sex on average while simultaneously participating in hookup culture and having less sex over all. That makes no sense. People are having less sex on average in comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:27 PM
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To me, the solution is quite simple, but pretty much impossible to make true: men must start seeing themselves as the reward. The idea that I should strive to better myself in multiple different areas just to be "worthy" of the attention of some girl whose main special trait is being pretty is, quite frankly, laughable. I've recently talked about this here. Imagine having to work out, diet, train what to say in what circumstances, become professionally successful, invest, become rich... And the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:09 PM
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And yet, there are still countless reports from times of yore about women who had "disgraced themselves" by sleeping with a man out of wedlock. But I do understand your point. Women didn't have much of a choice. But my point stands that they understood the value of not giving out sex to men who didn't want to commit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:36 PM
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Yeah, I'm a strong advocate of the idea that men should see themselves as the prize as much as women. Some women think of themselves as trophies when all they bring to the table is "I'm pretty". Very lackluster IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:06 PM
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there's too many women who desire commitment and will only sleep with someone they're officially with What? In what planet are you? Plenty of women nowadays are sleeping around with men they desire, but who are not willing to have a LTR with them. I think the poster you've responded to is correct. Women can get commitment if that's what they want, they just can't get it from the top guys who they pursue because, well, those guys have too many options, and most of them prefer to just sleep around…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 09:38 PM
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No it’s not Do you mean that doing all of those things with the main purpose of being attractive to women isn't stupid? Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Everyone wants love and a relationship Massive generalization that is obviously not applicable to everyone. Men especially have better lives when in a loving relationship. Keyword being "loving". A guy who jumps through hoops to be attractive to women may very well end up dating the first chick who gives him a crumb of attention, and the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:22 PM
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Skin care, sure. Make-up? Nah. Many guys actually prefer basic or no make-up. And I thought you did that for yourselves and not for filthy men? Eat healthy? Eh, that's not really a sacrifice. Dieting? Sure, men do prefer thinner women generally, I'll give you that. Work out? Nah, many women are very attractive without working out. It's far more expected of men to have a muscular body than of women. Haircuts are also things I thought you did for yourselves and not for manpigs, so no idea why you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:37 PM
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I disagree. The idea of hypergamy is looking for people who are above you on a certain aspect, regardless of how good you are. Successful and rich women are still hypergamous and struggle dating because they want men who are even more successful and rich than they are. Pretty sure that there have been articles about it. Meanwhile, how many handsome men do you know that struggle finding a partner because they want women who are even more attractive than they are? I'd guess that not many. But yes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:48 PM
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Right? I've seen someone ITT saying something like "I've learned that as long as I snuggle with my GF and try to be a loving affectionate partner etc etc etc, then she's down to fuck me whenever I want". How is that an argument to support that the GF in question has the same level of libido as the guy? If a guy wants to fuck all the time regardless of circumstances, while a girl only wants to fuck if she has an emotional bond or feels happy with the guy... Then they don't really have the same le…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:37 PM
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One of two things happens when you post studies like that: Crickets. "B-b-but social science isn't real science, the data aren't reliable, self-reported libido isn't a good metric, blablabla". Science is only ever worth something when it agrees with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:33 PM
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It is very common for people on Reddit (particularly women) to say that men and women have the same level of libido. I've even seen a woman say that the idea that male libido is higher is a sexist idea that comes from a patriarchal view on women, lol. Meanwhile, the actual studies made on the subject show that that is not really the case. Not only are men's sex drive generally higher, the female libido is much more inconsistent than the male one, i.e. men don't really fluctuate much when it come…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:25 PM
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That kind of shaming is very common, indeed. I've personally dealt with it countless times here on Reddit when mentioning that I judge a woman's past when it comes to dating her, and I wouldn't date a woman who has had one night stands, FWBs, or any of those kinds of casual relationships. I can only imagine how people would react IRL if I were to talk about it. I'd never do it, cuz I'm pretty sure people would just assume I'm a misogynist and distance themselves from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:27 PM
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Imagine being 19 years old, jumping on gear the moment you start lifting, and thinking that you are in a position where you can tell men older than you that they're not trying hard enough. Lol. But this thread was interesting to see other people's POV. I'd never thought about how it is true that most men try way harder than women when it comes to dating, and that that may make them just think that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Imagine having to work out, go to a dermatologist to improve you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:15 PM
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You're really projecting with the whole insecurity thing, I think. I've had long talks with people about this subject, and my impression is that people like you, who can't accept the idea that someone cares about the past of their partners, are usually people insecure about what they've done in the past, and who are afraid that they'll be deemed as not relationship material for it. I'm pretty secure in who I am and in what I look for in a partner. And the past is just one of many things I care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 02:21 PM
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Feelings are a choice? How? So if my mother dies and I get sad, it was a choice? If I get angry at a cheating partner, also a choice? No, it's not a choice. It's normal for people to feel differently about different things. You don't care about the past of a person? Okay. But saying that I'm "allowing frivolous emotions to limit my life" comes off as extremely condescending, as if I should force myself to change how I feel. And you keep saying that they don't matter. They don't matter to you. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:06 AM
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Good for you that you'd be okay with it, though I'd say that just because you're in a LTR and you aren't the hottest the guy has been with doesn't really mean that you bring more to the table. Maybe he was dumped by an ex who was the hottest, who knows? Regardless, again, I never said that you "shouldn't get the right to exercise your new preferences" or that "people can only change preferences if they benefit me". Let's have an honest discussion here. What I did say was that I wouldn't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:41 AM
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Well, if I'm dating someone who doesn't find me as attractive as some guy from her past, then yeah, I see that as decent grounds for dumping her. But you do you. And good for you that you don't care about the past. Many people do. I certainly do. You thinking that I'm "not worth my salt" doesn't really matter to me tbh, I just avoid dating women who think that their past has no bearing on their present, so people like you and me just naturally avoid each other in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 04:15 AM
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Not sure what you mean about the husband "not bringing the same physical qualities". Most guys in that situation would get sad/angry/annoyed at the fact that their wives were much more into sex with randos from her past than with the men they supposedly love. Go ahead and think that all men are stupid for caring about it, but I'm pretty sure that most women would also feel annoyed if they were in that kind of situation But anyway, I'm not really shaming women. I'm simply stating that I, personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:49 AM
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Oh, it definitely does exist. I've personally never experienced it, but there are plenty of stories like this on subs like /r/relationship_advice. I remember one that was about a guy who was married to a woman who he had always thought was a prude, who only ever wanted sex in missionary and nothing spicy... Until he discovered a tape showing her having group sex with multiple men. She was basically a massive slut during college, but once she got married she assumed that she should become a "prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 03:34 AM
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Personally, I'd find it weird to hear something like "Yeah, I did this with other dudes, but I actually didn't really like any of it and now that I'm with you I feel comfortable saying that I don't like it". I'd rather just not date someone like that. Don't get me wrong, I agree that it is possible for a person to be in a situation like that. And if it something that she did literally once and didn't want it anymore, I'd probably be okay with it. But if it was more like something she's done with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:29 PM
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Yeah, that's also what I thought when reading it. She's either the most naive woman alive, thinking that a guy who's assaulted her is a nice guy who wants to apologize 1 on 1... Or she's just a cheater trickle truthing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 03:25 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/dating_advice/comments/q2bsd8/is_this_considering_cheating_and_what_should_i_do/ What does PPD think of this one? TL;DR: girl says she has been forcefully kissed by a coworker and has reported him. Later calls BF crying saying that she wasn't being entirely truthful and that after that first kiss happened she had been called by the man, telling her he wanted to "apologize", she entered his car alone with him and he kissed her again. IMO it's a ridiculous idea that someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:58 PM
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Redditors love telling men that they're not "entitled" to X, X being whatever it is that a specific man is complaining about. Truth is, we can always turn this same argument against the people using it. The woman who is withholding sex isn't entitled to having a relationship with me, nor is she entitled to being loved by me. It's not about entitlement, it's about compatibility and good morals. If someone purposefully withholds sex from a partner as a form of manipulation, that's 100% a decent re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 02:54 PM
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Massive generalization. I'd agree with you if you had said that most relationships in the western world start with casual sex, but definitely not all. Regardless, I'm not interested in casual sex, and also not interested in dating women who have it. And saying that I'm doomed to only meet frigid women is just cope from people who think you have to sleep around to be normal. My dating life, my rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:35 PM
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What's cope? You think all women around the world with a high sex drive have casual sex, then? That's a pretty absurd generalization. I think you're the one coping here, wanting to believe that a man has to either settle for a dead bedroom or a promiscuous woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:44 PM
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27M. No interest in casual sex. This thread gives me hope, though. Even though it's Reddit, where people are usually more sex-positive, I'm still seeing lots of responses from women with a low n-count. Maybe it won't be so difficult to find a partner like me. Hopefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:48 AM
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It's purge weekend. The OP is trolling. Don't take it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:47 AM
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Sociosexuality isn't about wanting or not wanting to be with someone who has slept around. The term, again, is about how willing a person is in engaging in sexual activities with someone outside of a committed relationship. Most people in Western societies have unrestricted sociosexuality, since most people engage in casual sex. And most people in Western society are okay with dating and marrying people with unrestricted sexuality, since that's what most people are. I think you're confusing "hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:37 AM
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I... Don't understand what you're trying to say, lol. My initial comment was that I wonder what FDS posters think of people with restricted sociosexuality who want to date women who also have it restricted. To put it simply: men who are not mansluts and who do not want to date sluts. I have a restricted sociosexuality btw, and I refuse to date women with a promiscuous past. So that's why I wonder what women who post on FDS think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:27 AM
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The problem with this sort of argument is the conflation of "not being promiscuous" with "not liking sex". I'm sure that libido has a relationship with how likely it is for a person to be into casual sex, but it isn't a determining factor. As in, some women may have a high sex drive but only engage in sex when in committed relationships. I have been in one (and only) relationship with a woman with a high n-count, and I actually had a libido higher than hers. So I'm sure that there are women out …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:20 AM
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What? Sociosexuality isn't a made-up thing. It's a well defined term in academia. It's how willing a person is to engage in sexual relationships with people outside of a committed relationship. Restricted sociosexuality = people who want to have sex only in committed relationships. Unrestricted sociosexuality = people who are into hook-ups, ONSs and relationships like that Just Google it, plenty of resources talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:13 AM
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I was actually being ironic, lol. Telegony in humans, as far as I know, isn't proven at all. Since it's purge weekend, I'm just being as retarded as I can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 01:10 AM
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Since the psychologist was probably pumped and dumped by countless Chads who came deep into her uterus, and since it is a well-established, totally proven and not made up scientific fact that women absorb the DNA of the men who come inside of them, then, in a way... Yes. He is in the room right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:43 AM
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I wonder what FDS posters would think of men who are sociosexually restricted and don't want to date women who have had casual sex in the past. Do you have any idea? I can't ask them because I'd be banned and called a scrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:40 AM
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It's a common theme on subs like /r/relationship_advice for people to call men predators for being in consensual relationships with a considerable age gap, like a 30 yo man with a 20 yo woman. The joke being that the people complaining are just salty women that are jealous of the fact that they aren't pursued by men their age, since men their age can be with women younger and hotter than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:37 AM
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I see. I'm not American, I just assumed. Bad example for what I was trying to say, but I think the other ones are good enough to illustrate my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:56 PM
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Of course homicide is a crime, lol. When I mentioned Femicide, I wanted to illustrate my point that the Law is adjusted in accordance to the circumstances, and that saying "It sucks but it is what it is" is a bad argument. What, did you think I was arguing that killing men is fine and killing women is not? Of course not, my point was just that when you have people being killed just for being women, legislators can adjust the Law to make Femicide a specific crime, and make the sentences harsher. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:00 PM
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Then we don't really disagree in regards to paper abortion. As it stands, men have no say on whether they will or will not have to support the child, I'd just like to see some way for men to not be forced to pay for a kid they did not want from the start. Your slippery slope argument is something that I don't agree with though. We don't stop people from having certain rights because we "KNOW" that they will end up asking for more. Homicide is just murder. It's not the equivalent of femicide, no …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:47 PM
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People who get mad about folks who don't want to date women with a promiscuous past are, almost always, people who are insecure about being judged for their own past and who don't want to have real consequences for having an extensive sexual past. They project this insecurity onto those sociosexually restricted men who have those standards, thinking that the only reason a man wouldn't want to date a woman who's been around the block is because they're insecure, immature, have bad dick game or wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:56 PM
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The man in this situation consented to sex, not to being a father. If you honestly don't see the issue with conflating "you accepted fucking her" with "you should deal with the financial burden of supporting the kid for the next 18 years", I honestly don't see how anyone could have a productive conversation with you on the subject. To show how absurd that kind of conflation can be, just think about how idiotic it would be to say that a man who fucks a blacked out drunk woman was in his right bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:34 PM
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>pro-FDS man HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:15 PM
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Except the law doesn't (or shouldn't) work like that. "It sucks, but that's the way it is" is a horrible argument for anything when it comes to Law. Women aren't on average as strong and fit as men. The Army's Fitness Test is different for women because they take into account that. If we used your argument, we'd just forbid most women to join the Army. Specifically about the Law, we can talk about Femicide being a thing and Androcide not being a thing in modern countries. Because gender violence…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:10 PM
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The problem is with calling certain men "hot as fuuuck" and another "husband material". I remember that in the past I did something I'm not proud of, which was reading texts an ex of mine wrote to a friend about an ex-FWB (the texts were from before we were together), in which she described the guy as so very attractive and said something like "the shitty thing is that after being fucked by him, all other guys are boring". Meanwhile, I was the guy who was lovely to her, sweet etc etc. Knowing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:29 PM
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Yeah, this. I know a sketch from a comedy group from my country (Brazil) that makes fun of this, it's basically about a guy hitting on women grossly like this, talking about how he'd like her to suck his cock etc, and then the girl comes up to him and says things like "Whip it out. Come on. I want to see it. Let me suck it", and then the guy starts crying and feeling objectified. Sadly it's in Portuguese, so the humor would not be really understood by most, but the video (it has English subtitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:34 AM
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Let's make one thing clear: we live in a modern world where women have tons of options. Most women in the western countries are into having casual flings before finding a guy to marry, and most guys are like that as well. At the end of the day, it is very likely that your girlfriend will have slept with a guy hotter than you who only wanted to fuck her, whom she would have dated if he wanted to. Don't like the way things are? Then be selective. Find a woman who won't make you feel like you're th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:10 PM
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I'm a guy who dislikes the idea of women calling a guy "husband material" while they go around fucking random men, and I doubt that I'd feel differently if I had been more desired. It's the same thing as guys who sleep with women and say that they're only good for sex and are not wife material, it's just gross IMO. I think it's much more a matter of what you expect in a relationship, values etc. Sure, it's worse for men who never got laid ever, but that plays a smaller role in it than your value…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:38 PM
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I don't see it as losing my chances at a good partner. A good partner's characteristics vary from person to person. And to me, chastity is an important one, so I'm not really losing on anything if women who hook up with men she's not in a relationship with don't want to date me, cuz I also wouldn't want to date them. Regarding your other point, I think most people in Western countries have at least a period of casual sex in their lives. Not many people only sleep with boyfriends/girlfriends nowa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:50 PM
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Of course it is because I'm a man, lol. The point is that I, as a man, don't want to be the guy that's seen as a safe partner after the woman has had her fun with random hot guys who offered her nothing but sex. I wouldn't marry a woman who spent years sleeping with randos and then came to me when she's ready to have a serious relationship. Is it really that hard for women to empathize with this point of view that many men have? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:31 PM
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Judging from what I've seen here, I'd be offended if I got called "husband material" by the average modern woman. Since it gives off the vibe of "guy I'd settle down with after having fun with other, non-marriage material guys". Everyone wants to be the person their partner lusts for, not the "safe choice".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:11 PM
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Yes, I wouldn't want to date that hypothetical woman. As I said, I want someone who shares my values. You thinking it's sad just means you don't share my values, it's not really relevant to this conversation. I may think your standards are sad, but why would you care? Mind you, my problem with your hypothetical isn't that "she slept with other men in the past". I don't care if the woman has previous sexual experience, as long as she loved and was loved by the men involved. But if it was casual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:25 AM
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Because it's assumed that many women lie about it. My personal opinion is that the more interested in a guy she is, the more likely it is for her to lie about her past. I mean, if it's a promiscuous past. If it's not, well, many men told me that it's common for women who have a low n-count to flaunt it because they know men care. But since the guy can't know in advance, and he cares about it, the better strategy is to assume that it's high and try to find out by using those tactics I mentioned. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:28 PM
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If you read the other answers in this post, you'll see that most men say that I shouldn't ask the woman directly, but use other strategies to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:01 PM
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It's an issue to me because I want to be with someone who shares my values. Let me give you an example to counter what you've mentioned about how people can change. A woman can have slept around with 100+ men and then decide that she wants to get married and wait for marriage before having sex with her future husband. Right? Of course, she's entitled to do whatever she wants to. But what man in his right mind would want that? Men who are willing to wait for marriage want virgins, not women with …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:59 PM
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A study that I found interesting was this one (didn't read it all tho): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8074860/ The title is "Proximate and Ultimate Perspectives on Romantic Love". In it, the authors mention: "Women, more than men, show a strong preference for resource potential, social status, a slightly older age, ambition and industriousness, dependability and stability, intelligence, compatibility, certain physical indicators, signs of good health, symmetry, masculinity, love, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:43 PM
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I've recently made a post about this subject in this sub (you can find it easily in my history), and reading the replies there you can easily see that most men who care about it (which I believe is, well, most men) don't straight up ask women about it. Most men either: Look for specific traits that they believe are more common in promiscuous women (which, granted, can be very error-prone and biased), or Ask for things somewhat related to it, like "So what kind of dating are you into? More seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:30 PM
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People have already given you practical reasons why it matters (like the correlation between promiscuity and infidelity), but I'd also like to mention my personal reason: because I want someone who shares my values. If I value sex as something special, I want to be with someone who feels the same about it. Simple as that. Also, the whole "Body count doesn't matter" thing is something that only the most progressive people agree with. The vast majority of men care to some degree about it. Maybe yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 10:17 PM
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Yeah, there are some fundamental differences apparently between the sexes, but speaking about it in most subreddits will just earn you a lot of downvotes because "men and women are the same!!!", lol. Your point of developing attraction is an interesting one too. Because maybe the initial attraction you've felt towards a random fuck buddy was higher than the initial attraction you've felt towards your boyfriend, and if the boyfriend learns of it, he'll probably be heartbroken. Even if over time y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 02:00 PM
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What are "people like me" exactly? Do you presume to know who I am as a person just because you know I'm sociosexually restricted? That's like saying you know who a person is just from knowing they're gay/bisexual/etc. Suddenly it doesn't sound that good, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:45 PM
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I've already explained it in a lot of other responses. I simply don't feel good being with someone I know has had sex with guys that were just having fun with her. It doesn't have any practical reason, I'm well aware that she can be a great partner, but I'd still be unhappy. And regarding your hypothetical situation, well, I'd choose neither. I'd rather be single than with either of those. But thankfully there are many women in the world, so I'm sure there are women who are also sociosexually re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:41 PM
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To me, and to many other men I reckon, yes, it'd be a loss. Because I want to be the person she's very attracted to, not simply the "kind provider". This kind of disagreement between men and women is what makes me feel that we have a fundamental difference is how we see sex. Women seem to really think it's okay to have been more attracted to fuckboys she didn't intend to marry than to the guy she wants to marry, and she actually thinks that the guy she wants to marry is the winner there. Meanwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:23 PM
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A virgin by choice (instead of someone with some issues that prevent her from dating) would be very good for me. But I'd be perfectly happy with a low-n woman too. One thing I'd like to point out is that the number itself isn't the main thing for me. As I've already given as an example in other threads, I'd rather be with a woman who's had 5 boyfriends she loved than with a woman who's had 2 guys she hooked up with occasionally, and even had threesomes with, and another permanent fuck buddy. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:06 PM
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But men and women are different. Many men don't care that their GFs/wives make less money than them. Many women don't care that their BFs/husbands are considerably older than them. I'd understand it if you said that you'd be personally not interested in a man like that, but it seems like you judge people having standards in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:01 PM
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Yeah, the community can be very toxic. Not going to argue with you on that. Although what you've mentioned doesn't really go against what many red pillers say. AFAIK red pillers aren't saying that average men can't have relationships, but more that these same women happily married probably have chased and sleeped with other guys who were "higher up" on their made-up sexual hierarchy, but those men only wanted to fuck those women, and then dumped them. And then the women settled for the more aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 03:09 PM
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I'm of the opinion that men should see themselves as the prize as much as women. The idea that women are a "prize to be conquered" is very outdated to me. So no one should really "chase" imo. Just be the best you can be and mutually interested people should signal to each other their interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:32 PM
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Eh, I'd be happy getting dumped by someone for having these values, since in general that'll mean that they don't fit the criteria I'm looking for in a woman. The main problem about being straightforward is that if a woman is already interested in me, she might simply lie. But anyway, thank you for the response.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:56 AM
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I'm sure some women wouldn't mind sharing their past. Especially if they think like me. So, yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:54 AM
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It's not about the present. I know that they can change, and I also know that they can be good partners. But the past would still bother me. I don't feel happy dating someone who has had sex in casual contexts (maybe once and regretted it). It's just how I am, can't really give you a "reason", it just makes me feel bad. Again, I'll mention the concept of sociosexuality in case you want to know more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:52 AM
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Lol, thanks for the response, it was quite entertaining. I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but I couldn't help but laugh while reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:46 AM
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Lol, what? Why'd you assume I'm trolling? Do you honestly think that my point of view is that rare? I've seen a lot of men who care about a woman's past. The main difference for me is that I don't hook up, while many men will hook up but not commit to women with a promiscuous past.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 02:42 AM
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Thank you for the very thoughtful response, mate. Sad to hear about your ex-wife, but glad that you could at least experience that kind of pure love that I dream of having.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:51 AM
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Yeah, I suppose some men give reasons like "damaged pair-bonding" (pseudo-science AFAIK), "more likely to cheat" (true, but not really a certainty), or whatever else. But to me it really isn't about how it affects the woman now, it's about how it affects me. Which I guess is an alien concept to many women. The idea that their past can affect a man they're dating. But it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:02 AM
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Good to know. Reddit is famous for having more progressive-minded people, so I suppose it's to be expected that I'd be met with hostility here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:42 PM
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It matters to me because it matters to me. I don't have a "functional" response to give you. It's not about the present. I'm well aware that a person can be a good partner regardless of how many sexual partners they've had. I just have this revulsion towards the concept of casual sex. I don't like it, and I don't like being with someone who has enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:41 PM
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...what? I'm not catholic. I live in a Western country whose culture is very hook-up oriented. Stop reaching, some people will dislike casual relationships regardless of what the people around them think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:35 PM
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Funny you say that cuz I do intend to eventually move to another country (Japan) whose culture I do believe values chastity more than mine (Brazil). Of course, I don't plan to live there specifically for this, but maybe it'll help me? Who knows, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:34 PM
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People use downvoting as a "I disagree" button. It's ridiculous. I've decided to never downvote anymore because I realized I was having that exact same toxic mindset of "People I disagree with must be downvoted REEEE".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:28 PM
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I don't have much to add to the conversation, just want to say that "hambeast buttergolems marshmallow shaped women" was a phrase that made me laugh for some long minutes, and I tried to read it multiple times without laughing just for fun and goddamn it was it hard. Thanks, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:25 PM
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Lol, flair checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:07 PM
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Look up sociosexuality, it's an interesting concept that I actually learned about here on Reddit. Basically, I only want to have sex with women I'm in a serious relationship with, and I want to do it with women who are like me. And yes, I have refrained from casual sex. Lastly, yes, I would not want to be with the hypothetical person you've mentioned. My ex was like that in a way. Very nice to me, but with a past that made me feel very unhappy. If you don't see why it matters, well, that's just …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:06 PM
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Wow, thank you, very thoughtful response! I think the "forever girlfriends" are probably the best bet for someone like me. That, or another group that came to my mind that you didn't mention: women who focused on their careers and decided to put off dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 11:02 PM
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Oh, no, I don't think that a person who's had casual sex has poor values and morals. And even if she has had poor values and moral, she might change. This isn't about what she is now. I just am not comfortable dating someone who has enjoyed having casual relationships. I have dated a girl like that, and it was overall very bad for my mental health. It also ended up sucking for her, since she felt guilty for having lived her life, and she shouldn't have had to go through that. So, yeah, regardles…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:59 PM
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I suppose so. The thing is, though, that "being kind" is something that no normal human can justify that it isn't important. A man who lies about that is probably a psycho. But many women can justify lying about their past because "it doesn't matter". As in, they choose for me what should and shouldn't matter to me. That's the main problem for me. But I agree with you that at the end of the day, I'll have to make a leap of faith and trust my future partner. I'd just prefer to do that with as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:56 PM
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Huh, that's... Quite an interesting suggestion, actually. I've seen plenty of progressive people use this term. People who are sexually attracted only to people they have feelings for, right? It doesn't really apply to me, though, since it's not that I don't feel sexually attracted to multiple women. The term that best describes these feelings of mine is "sociosexually restricted", but very few people know about sociosexuality. But I suppose your suggestion might help for me to approach the subj…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:54 PM
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Since you're insisting so much on this one: no, I'm Brazilian. Brazil's hook-up culture is actually stronger than the USA's, I believe. People aren't the countries they were born in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:39 PM
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Well, I do reserve the same judgement. But I'm not looking to date a guy, so if a man sleeps with multiple women I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:05 PM
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And I'd appreciate it if every woman who's had multiple casual relationships in the past would act like you instead of lying about it, which sadly is what many do. Although I wouldn't really approach this subject in terms of n-count. More in terms of what kind of relationship the person has enjoyed having.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:01 PM
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But that's you assuming that any woman with a non-zero libido will be interested in having a random hookup. I don't think that's true, libido isn't the only variable that determines whether a person will want to hook up or not. And I could probably be hooking up if I wanted to. I have rejected more than one woman who wanted to have something casual with me. Again, it's about values, not only about wanting to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:52 PM
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My ex lied to me more than once about her past experiences. And that was someone who loved me and more than once had told me that "she couldn't lie to me". Other than her, well, maybe some female friends of mine have lied to me about it, but how would I know that they lied? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:50 PM
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A lot of women lie about it. That's why I made the post, to see if men who think like me have interesting insights about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:13 PM
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That kind of arrangement is one I'm particularly put off by. The whole "sleeping with a guy 4fun while going out with other men looking for a BF". Some bonus points if she makes the guy she wants to date wait a long time to have sex. Extreme amount of bonus points if she keeps sleeping with the FWB while going on the fourth/fifth date with a guy who wants to date her, because "we haven't had the exclusivity talk yet!", lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:11 PM
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That's... Curious. I'm quite new to PPD (though I've been familiar with RP concepts for a long time), but I just assumed that women who visit this subreddit are more conservative. I thought the more "sexually liberated" women would be in subreddits like FDS, relationships_advice etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:05 PM
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That may be true, but to be honest if I mention my values and a woman gets defensive about it, I'll just assume that that means that she has had casual sex and end it there. Maybe I'll lose out on some women who I'd have enjoyed dating, but oh well. Why do you believe women are dishonest about their sexual history? Well, the women who are dishonest about it probably do it because they assume that men will not want to date them because of it, right? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:44 PM
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Is that really true, though? Ever since my first (and only) relationship ended, I have had no casual partners, even though I do have a pretty strong libido. Don't people here say that men and women have very similar sex drives? If that's true, then if I as a man can go for years without sex even though I have a strong libido, then a woman should be able to do the same, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:39 PM
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Thanks for the thoughtful response. I'm not really looking for a virgin, though. I wouldn't reject one, of course, but it's not a dealbreaker for me if the woman has had multiple sexual partners before me, as long as she loved them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:37 PM
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As I've already explained elsewhere, I can't simply force myself to do things I don't enjoy. I mean, I can, but why should I? I don't want to date women who have had casual sex not because of some deep-seated insecurity or whatever else, but because I see sex and romantic relationships as intertwined concepts. So your advice is basically telling me to force myself to be someone I am not, to do things I don't want to do, to become someone I don't want to become. But I appreciate your perspective …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:34 PM
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Funnily enough, our brief conversation on the Daily Community Chat Megathread was what inspired me to create this post. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:32 PM
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No, I have had sex with one woman, who was my first GF. But I do deeply value the emotional aspect of sex. Although I'm doubtful that like-minded people will usually find each other naturally, lol. I think it's not that simple and it will require some effort on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:30 PM
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Yeah, I'm genuinely confused. I'm facing more hostility here than in the /r/dating_advice post I mentioned in the OP. I thought PPD was for people who are open-minded about these kinds of things? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:27 PM
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Thank you, that's an insightful answer actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:24 PM
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I'm Brazilian, but there is no such a thing as an arranged marriage in Brazilian culture nowadays. I'd also not be interested in having one even if it were possible, mind you. Brazil's dating scene is also even more hook-up oriented than USA's, so, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:20 PM
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Why are you so hostile towards me? Me not being interested in women who enjoy casual sex isn't a value judgement. I am just not happy dating someone like that, and I don't want to make them unhappy either. Or do you honestly believe that a sociosexually restricted person has to either have arranged marriages or be single for life? That seems awfully close-minded of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:18 PM
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That's harsh, I wouldn't use that language to describe women who enjoy casual sex. Just not my cup of tea. >the caveat is you'll likely fall for her first and start making excuses on why you should abandon your principles Not very likely nowadays. I did it with my first GF and the relationship was torture to me. Definitely not something that I'm gonna do with my next potential GF. I have to be very sure that she fits the criteria I have before I become attached. But thank you for your response.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:12 PM
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Thanks! As you said, there's no way to be sure, but I suppose that some of those traits indeed are less likely in promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:08 PM
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I'm 27. No, it's one of many. But it's a criterion that is particularly hard to know how to screen out women who don't fit it, hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:04 PM
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No idea how you can assume you know me from this post. But nice reach, I suppose. You're wrong, btw. I'm very picky when it comes to relationships, it's just that this one thing is particularly hard to deal with. It's easy to screen out women I don't feel physically attracted to, or who aren't kind, or who are not financially responsible, or who aren't professionally successful etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:03 PM
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Not insecurity. Look into the concept of sociosexuality if you actually want to understand it. If not, well, all I can say is that there is a myriad of levels of "sexual freedom" between being an immaculate virgin and a woman who enjoys having ONSs, FWBs etc. I don't care if the woman has had 5 ex boyfriends and has had sex with all of them, as long as she loved them and they loved her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:00 PM
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I'm not looking for a "dream virgin unicorn". I'm just not interested in women who enjoy casual sex. It's a spectrum, I find it very doubtful that all women are either virgins or sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:54 PM
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Yeah, the pair-bonding thing doesn't have much evidence for it, I believe. Although there are studies that show a correlation between past promiscuity and unfaithfulness. Regardless, as I said in the original post, I'm what people cal "sociosexually restricted", i.e. I see sex and romantic relationships as intertwined concepts, hence why I'm not interested in dating women who do not share my views. Saying that I should just start sleeping around doesn't really help me, because the bottom line is…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:52 PM
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I know you're being sarcastic, but you're actually right that I would not be able to give off that vibe. Mainly because I wouldn't want to manipulate a woman into being honest with me, I'd rather do it in another way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:46 PM
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Lol, if I were to do that, I'd just go full Monk Mode and never date anyone. Which, to be honest, is what I've been doing for the past couple of years. But I do intend to get back to dating eventually. It'll be hard to find someone who fits my criteria since hook-up culture is so prevalent nowadays. But I guess I'll just have to screen out women who have promiscuity-related red flags and do my best to find someone who is honest. But I know what you mean. At the end of the day, the woman I decide…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:49 PM
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Trust me, it's much better to stay alone if a person doesn't pass a dealbreaker. They're called dealbreakers for a reason. My first gf had had multiple casual sex partners, while I lost my virginity with her. I cared about sex, but thought that I could get over it. But oh boy, did that not work out well at all. It was a horrible relationship because I couldn't take intrusive thoughts about her past out of my mind. Ever since then, I've realized that it's better to stay alone for years than to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:34 PM
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Truth is, if you decide to date a woman who has enjoyed casual relationships in the past, chances are that she has done things with randos that she will make you wait to do. People rush to do things when it's casual because, well, why wait? Meanwhile, with a boyfriend they can feel more comfortable with the idea of making him wait since he'll stay around. One of the many reasons why I'm not willing to date women who have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:27 PM
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Men should never demonize women for their past, of course. My criticism is more towards the women who want to pretend that they can have a myriad of casual partners and then act as if that had absolutely no impact in their lives. Can't say much about this, what I said was purely anecdotal. But maybe with things like open relationships and casual hookups becoming more and more commonplace, women will indeed change in this regard. Whether that would actually be a good thing for society as a whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:55 AM
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"What I did in the past doesn't define me". It does. You'll always be someone who did the things you did, even if you never do them again. The idea of separating sex from feelings. From my experience, I've seen far more women being heartbroken after having casual sex and being dumped than a man in the same situation. Obviously a generalization and some women can do it, but I do think those are the exceptions, not the rule. The idea that men are not dating her because she's successful/rich/indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 08:38 PM
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