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Should we assume that men are disgusted by women then? Because there are barely any pictures without touch ups and make up basically serves the same function?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:37 PM
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If he can’t take no the first time, when else he will also ignore her no?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:53 PM
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So basically he is in her league? That advice that men give women how to vet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:53 PM
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This. But i want to add that it’s not about cowardice as much as it is about indifference about his girlfriend. It’s okay if they both left the situation, but it looks shitty when he left her alone. And it’s not gendered, i would say same about a woman. Now i don’t know about this situation, so i’m not willing to make a solid judgement. And there could be tens of things that i don’t take into account. What i can judge is OP. If he thinks that protection is only about gender roles then he never c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:17 AM
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Because of calendar shift
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:03 AM
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Red pill isn’t about traditionalism. You all don’t want to date to marry, you want to sleep around, not pay for a date and complain that women don’t fall at your feet. Not really traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 05:44 AM
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Of course, just nowhere near a national league.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:52 AM
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How are you shifting that. It’s not a sixth sense but how are you jumping that it’s not about personality at all, that’s exactly all or nothing. And i think i rebutted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:03 PM
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That’s same all or nothing thinking that she points out. You might not know how good of a mother a woman will be after first meeting, but you definitely will notice that she is cold and resentful. Same thing here. Some personality flaws are just obvious, some will become obvious after some time, and some will show when you least expect. It’s like if a man got cheated on and you’re saying that he can’t then make any judgement about women. That road leads to nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:43 AM
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Woman: exist. You: can’t let her ragebait me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:10 PM
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That’s valid. I think women mostly argue that if they have sex quickly that doesn’t mean that you’re desirable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:09 PM
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Men like to point out gender differences a lot. With how women "view" sex (meaning it's okay for a man to be slut because he biologically wired to be but not woman), how they are horny, how they are logical etc. If we're talking about conversations about how men are mercifully let women keep their rights then also how men are stronger. Also there some men who think that only men built the world. So all in all we're different. Yet when there is a talk about conscription suddenly there is no talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 11:01 AM
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I would say 70/30 in favor of direct communication. I strongly believe that all problems have to be spelled out and no mind games here, we should be a team against issue not me vs her. And if there is a specific need then it's also better to communicate. Boundaries, limits, all those stuff too. But i've seen this thing being used as excuse for shitty behavior and neglect. And i think that you should communicate with your actions that you care about another person. It's one thing if shу believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 09:07 AM
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That’s so funny. So women don’t want a guy. You come here moralising “women are not choosing the guy they NEEEED, only the guy they WANT”. And when i ask you what do they need you don’t know. So your phrase is bs. Because you don’t know what guys women NEEEED, and therefore you don’t know if they choosing them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:17 PM
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Who decides what man do they NEEED?? And what man do they need and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:57 PM
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They also say things like "what does she brings to the table" meaning they want women to give sex (no matter what) and domestic labor (because he works), but god forbid she will take something in the divorce. Unpaid labor in it's finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:48 PM
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Yes, birth rate increased on a short term. And then fell lower than before abortion ban (with restriction still intact) with increased women's death rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:23 PM
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"This debate is about women." - this debate about women because you made it so, which is why i said pointlessly gendered "Its also "typical" for a woman to clean and cook, but I would bet cash you would hate it if a man expected that. Again, different rules for different genders." - i mean for sahm it's kind of still expected? what is your point here? "Male partners may not appreciate their female partners labour but at least society acknowledges its existence." - and society acknowledge make la…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:13 PM
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I don't see how. I do acknowledge that there are gold diggers. I also see men who throw a tantrum over coffee. So...if you want me to pity all of them i won't. If a man was taken advantage of then i will sympathize, and will think how he can avoid it in the future without being bitter asshole to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:07 AM
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Happier than what? All women i know want romantic relationship, men etc. So all of them would choose to have one. The thing is not all will find those who they like. Majority in relationship and happy. Some are divorced and happier than they were in marriage, even tho when they started relationship they were happy than single. Some don't want to date because they don't like men near them. I see this mostly as a statement about bad relationship because for so long there was a stigma that woman wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 11:00 AM
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My take is that men see women "taking advantage of them" even when they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:52 AM
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That is easily solved. Date women in your financial league. I'm not okay with men going into red pill but there is nothing i can do, being victim will always be more attractive than taking responsibility. I can only argue to some point and talk to my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:07 AM
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If forbidding abortion would help with birth rates it would be already forbidden. Just studies show that it doesn't matter. The only thing that happens is that women start to die (from criminal abortions) and babies start to die. And crime rate in about 30 years starts to climb up. But rates in general are still dropping. Governments trying to do something that would work, and if force would work they would do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:58 AM
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Oh, i have no illusion why men are red pill even tho it doesn't lead to success, red pill doesn't sell success, it sells explanation why you're unsuccessful without making you feel lacking. About gold digging it depends. Some women are gold diggers, but they would go for men with gold. If a man calls a woman gold digger because she wanted for him to pay for her coffee (or more like expected because he asked her out) then i'm sorry but no sane person would validate that. "The first bit is mislead…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:53 AM
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Of course they do. All countries do, it's one of the major social issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:45 AM
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Honestly, i'm kind of feel like people use Ukraine in a bad faith. Because Ukraine is still not egalitarian society with only one issue that only men are conscripted. They are more traditional and basically men are seeing conscription and start arguing how unfair it is, but will they argue to make Ukraine more fair in general? It's like i don't know, if a war happened in Pakistan and they start to say how unfair it is that only men are conscripted. That's exactly the price of traditional society…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:42 AM
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"there's not many other large scale wars going on in liberal countries" - yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:37 AM
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"Its the problem with this sub, and much of this debate in general, women often absolutely refusing to debate this in good faith." - pointlessly gendered. Like men here all debate in good faith. "leaving the workforce to look after children, pray tell, who exactly is paying the bills in this arrangement???" - well i assume a man, because it's typical for sahm arrangement. "and often this same role goes unappreciated." - what appreciation would look like? And then again, like it's news that men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:22 AM
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It might've worked on your wife, not on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:49 AM
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Wait, wasn't it you who tried to use "see Trump" in argument? and how men are taking women rights away? What are you arguing now again?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:35 AM
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Well yes, but nobody want’s to start a family this early. The difference is that before i had to have chaperoned walks in park so to speak, and now i can have sex, cuddles and a woman in my house and combined income
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:15 AM
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Well they try
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:57 AM
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Really? Because i’m not expected to woo anyone for months, nobody expects me to commit my life if i decide to move in with someone, nobody will bat an eye if i’m not sole provider or even a primary breadwinner. I see this thing about army but i can counter that women are still giving birth. “Not all women” well guess what, not all men are in the army also.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:37 AM
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there are literally no woman complaining. Only men say how they hate them or willing to overlook if she does something.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:41 PM
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i'll believe there is an issue when high n count women will complain. not a man who can't attract them tell revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:35 PM
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Women: having as much sex as they want, and having relationship when they want, living their life and obviously have no deficit of men wanting them Men (who probably can't attract them): "We don't want you! We!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:31 PM
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Yeah. and family can be toxic as hell also. I understand why most women choose B. I just really want sex and relationship *also*. So that was my try to wiggle out impossible choice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:50 PM
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but they don't "admit" what you want. They say what they choose, which is not what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:35 PM
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But they say b. If you already "know" the answer what's the point of question?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:32 PM
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Both sound horrible to be honest. But if i have to choose i would choose being part of really big family and then A.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:53 PM
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that's actually a good point. My girlfriend described her desire to me and a lot of times there is a situation, something going on, even if she looks at the picture she needs something to imagine. Unlike men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:45 PM
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That's probably true. They see everything transactional and sometimes i think they don't understand that you can actually care about someone. And actually choose them to be with you and actively care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:43 PM
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Honestly i'm infuriated by proxy. That's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:41 PM
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No, the requirement to be finding a mentally stable woman, not being toxic asshole. But you do you, there is women who want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:40 PM
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Some do. If you want a healthy one tho...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:14 PM
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I still don’t see win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:57 PM
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Yeah, most men fake their incompetence and actually having wives at all for that reason. What is a win for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:40 PM
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What is win there for her? What is in my comment win win?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:38 PM
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That’s acknowledgement of public treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:37 PM
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You just said you fucked one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:29 PM
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Oh, we have a more serious situation that i thought. Simple analogies won’t work!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:09 PM
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So they are fine and desirable. Can you say same for incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:57 PM
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I see men being upset. I have yet to see any slut here writing "no man want me"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:54 PM
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Because they don't despise those men they stay in relationship with. You should read a book about it, it's been explained already. Those men hook them up on emotional roller coaster and with times when he is really sweet and caring, that's who they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:51 PM
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actually i thought about analogy that would explain that for dense men. Imagine you're working in the office in a small team on a project. There is this woman, who decides that you're a man, it's your job to work, she'll just be there, she is tired after taking care of kids, she is sick, whatever. So you (and maybe other team members) have to do her share of work because all of you depend on project and you can't fire her. Now the question is, how fast do you want to marry her? No? How so? What …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:48 PM
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And isn't it hard to understand? They want a medal for something that was their job by default. It's like i'll demand sex for walking. Or going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:44 PM
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She kind of didn't want to perform chores for her husband either. Most women i know don't dream of doing chores for a man. They want to share that burden with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:42 PM
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Because they need to like a person to want to have sex with him, and when that person is neglecting his duties and she has to pick up after him, when he makes her life harder she starts to resent him and that means she doesn't like him anymore. There is a missing puzzle piece for attraction. This man just exploits her and she starts to low key hate him. And i know that some men don't care about who they fuck but most women don't want to fuck someone they resent. The stranger didn't do anything w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:41 PM
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seems only one of them are beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:24 PM
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i never said that i didn't. My point isn't about it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:23 PM
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I don't think they will want each other. Well incels might want sluts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:54 PM
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I was almost certain you'll not answer the question (just by the way you began your message) but you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:13 PM
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sure, small-pp man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 12:01 PM
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Virgin men are even less attractive than sluts, just judging by reality, sluts don't go on the internet and complain that they can't have relationship. And usually if you say high n count men just short circuit and start say "slut, low value, trash" no matter the context. Why are you against virgin shaming then? Isn't it double standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:29 AM
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Some men here write that they might overlook a woman's past if she.....out any demand here. The question is, what can you offer at all that you'll attract that woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:21 AM
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When i heard that i always thought, and what would he do? Like for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:17 AM
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You're talking like men don't go around here blaming women for that. Why is this your response for matched energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 10:12 AM
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Seems like a guys fault to be honest. He either sucks at sex, or he convinces women to get into relationship without liking him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:47 AM
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That’s it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:42 AM
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You can't claim something is evolutionary based on observation of culture that repressed female sexuality for centuries and thoroughly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:23 AM
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That not access to options. You're talking about something else and i'm tired of repeating my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:19 AM
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and?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:52 AM
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what effort are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:46 AM
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Yes, it's easier, and that doesn't change anything. The result is the same. A man and a woman decide that they don't want to date because they don't like their options and odds to find someone they like. In one case we say that it's out of guys control. In the other we say that that woman is single by choice. Like she has control over who she is attracted to. I feel like i'm repeating myself. Why who can easier get a date with a person they don't like is a factor relevant to my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:34 AM
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not about my point, but okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:14 AM
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You know the guy on tiktok who researches women's health last couple of weeks? i would want to know all he learns now in sex ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:13 AM
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Why when a man swear off dating because he doesn't like his "options" to the point of thinking the juice is not worth the squeeze we say that he is single, or it's not his choice there just no women for him. But when a woman in the same situation we say it's "single by choice" like she can just decide to like different men anytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:59 AM
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Nice try, but they are not fishing for women here, they virtue signal here just because they like to think good about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:20 PM
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Oh, just men lying and virtue signaling, nothing important. and being hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:01 PM
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Are you stuck in 1600? women are not considered property anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:27 PM
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Fair point. But to be fair they are also not really open to migration, so we don't know if it would be a trend to migrate there is they allow it. But well Japan that allows foreigners (en masse) is not Japan we know, so who knows what would be then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:55 PM
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I think reddit doesnt care about truth, but it doesn't censor thing just because. He censors hate speech which i assume you want to spew.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:52 PM
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Yeah, it's kind of part of safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:51 PM
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fwb is an arrangement for some time, if it's not it's just one or couple night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:34 PM
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All fwb are keepers in fwb sense, it's in definition there. Well if you define relationship like meet couple times a week and fuck then sure, just like one. Mine are more complex than this, but no judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:25 PM
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Omg, this is so funny....my? And how he influenced anything about abortion? because it was a decision of one judge, and probably some politicians that created this situation. And i might say something blasphemous, but him being rapist doesn't matter on political scale (if he is a rapist at all). So stop waving it like it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:21 PM
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Then it doesn't seem like the truth really.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:20 PM
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I know a woman who does. She doesn't want to date, doesn't see the appeal, and yet likes to have sex. Finding a partner who will be on a same page as her and good in sex and not finding strangers seems like a good solution tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:12 PM
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Oh, i take dinner breaks, don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:03 PM
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Then you explain. Since you already disagree before i've said anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:50 PM
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it is valid. It's not true for drag addict because his message actually "drugs are wrong, but actually better than anything else, so i choose them". And that's who you choose to listen to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:34 PM
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Oooo, you like women......so funny. Yeah, i like women, i'm married, and i actually like to spend time with them. Call it what you will (the horror)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:33 PM
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Do you want me to go into cultural analysis or are you asking are they safe than others? if 1 i'll not bother seeing your reaction on another info i typed out, if 2 then google crime rate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:19 PM
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This is really funny to read men here. Men: women so bad, they lie and virtue signal, unlike us. Also men: men are logical, they love unconditionally, they choose something without social pressure, only what they will like.....I could continue for a while...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:13 PM
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money. safety (for now)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:11 PM
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That's not the answer to my question. But i'll play. For example in England during Henry the 8, and then Mary, and then Elizabeth, there were religious wars so much so that punished were everyone and even if you didn't care much (which wasn't applied to most people because they cared) and wanted to just appeal to government and church you still don't know what to do. So people left. Or for example in Ireland in 1840-1850 there was famine, people left to survive. Some wanted to have their land, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:09 PM
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And who is going to do something about it? You? Do you have any power at all? Do you decide where your taxes go? Why pathetic couch men think they have a "mercy" and "decision power" towards anything??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:04 PM
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and before they like didn't come to america??? it was flooded with immigrants whenever. There was indentured servitude for a right to move there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:02 PM
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Yeah, dude, no. Unconditional love isn't a thing between adults, and men are not exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:59 AM
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It can be tricky but it's okay to ask for guidance. What works on one woman may not work on the other. But no, i haven't met a woman who will look down on you (metaphorically speaking lol) if you eat her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:57 AM
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Where are those men? Are they on the same planet as us?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:51 AM
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That's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 10:51 AM
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wanting is okay. manipulating, lying is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:20 AM
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They want pity and succumb to their demands. Lets call it as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:25 AM
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Exactly, so she shouldn’t have sex casually. Or she loses value. And that means you can’t blame women for not doing it or thinking you’re offering something bad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:01 AM
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This. But i think most men are blind to it because they think it’s the only way and this is how it’s done, so it’s equal to desire for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:49 AM
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If you say so. To me people who’re saying something is wrong but doing that are liars. They could’ve stopped. But it’s not “wrong” enough to stop. No. They like it, they think it’s something “fun” and something they should do. That’s why it’s important to listen to someone who practice what they preach. Otherwise it’s like listening to fat priest about fasting. Or smokers about how “smoking is bad”. But apparently better than not smoking? If you listen to “truth” no matter from whom it’s sounds …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:32 AM
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Honestly it’s funny. Do they know Leo? They know shit. For all we know Leo chases women. Or buys them. Or whatever. We don’t know. Neither are they. I can also sell my weight loss courses, saying that that’s how bts keep themselves in shape. As much truth in it as with Leo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:26 AM
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Yeah, but it isn’t wrong for that drug addict, and he lies. So if you’re going to listen to him that’s kind of still shows your choice. You could’ve chosen someone who does believe in what they say. But somehow you want to follow drug addict that says drugs is wrong. How is that your defence again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:23 AM
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Yeah, but it isn’t wrong for that serial killer, and he lies. So if you’re going to listen to him that’s kind of still shows your choice. You could’ve chosen someone who does believe in what they say. But somehow you want to follow serial killer that says killing is wrong. How is that your defence again?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:21 AM
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Good for you (even tho i think you lie). You’re not the representative of all men tho. And thank god for that because while there is a culture that promotes being like that, needing social approval is still necessary for survival (or normal life).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:12 AM
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So they dating out of charity or what? They have better options but decided to date down? Of course not. That's the best they've got and that means it's by definition is selfish. Edit. Also interesting how it's specified that he dates *economically* down, but not necessarily looks wise or otherwise, like it matters if it's not down down. But also interesting how it's coexist with all notion in this sub that if a woman dates up she's going to be treated horribly (so that mean the man is selfish a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:46 PM
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pointlessly gendered, men also want approval of their friends. we're social creatures. all want approval
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:16 PM
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I tried to use this lamp to pull nails out and it didn't work. Must be nail's fault! stupid nails. Not my choice of tool, nooo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:39 PM
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Okay, so in 77% women bring income, and what happens in 46% of relationship where a man is not a primary breadwinner? 46% is almost half by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:37 PM
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Money is what my massage therapist wanted. that's so crazy to imply that i freely give it to him. And then say that i used him for a service. Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:31 PM
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I have no idea what does it have to do with my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:13 PM
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It's a conclusion based on what he said which is shown in her comment. What are you basing yours on? Revenge. Is it so hard to admit? apparently it is. If you disagreed on that you could've argued that her conclusion is wrong and based on what he said you can make another one, but you just want to bite back. Is it productive? not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:50 PM
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But that's the thing, she didn't state what she wanted. We all read what this man wanted but you reverse just as revenge. You have no idea what this woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:34 PM
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"Women are selfish in nature. They take from their partner and leave when they can't benefit more from them." - pointlessly gendered. All people are selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:11 PM
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no advice posts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:02 PM
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You can reverse based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:56 PM
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Then why date at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:35 PM
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How often women approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:23 AM
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Where those women are? Are they in the room with us? Because men who struggle to find women for relationship and/or sex are in the room with us. I have yet to coma across women who complain how they can't get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:11 AM
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What part of "debate" you didn't understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:29 AM
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This is also ridiculous. Men want to meet women, ask where they can do it etc. Also men don't want women in their "spaces" which is everything they like. One might think that they don't really like women, don't make them feel welcomed and not reap what they saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:28 AM
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Still i don't understand. What if a man had only girls??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:30 AM
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How many of those "same guys" are we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:14 AM
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that didn't explain it to me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:49 AM
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I have one advice for you. Be coherent. If you think you tried to explain your point- you failed. Unless of course it was just a diversion of topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:48 AM
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And why do you talking about it in reply to my comment that have nothing to do with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:45 AM
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Are we talking about those men who can find women? Nice try to shift the topic. I don't care what's some men's interests are, i care that they do this shit. And men who want sex are not different from men who want relationship here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:42 AM
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I'm not specialist but how looking at Y chromosome will help if when man reproduces it's not necessary boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:39 AM
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Oh, i thought marriage was relationship, how silly of me. Apparently anything less than how many years? 10? Isn't a relationship? Then there a lot of single people, men and women. Still for women to have relationship they need to have it with someone. And no, still monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:19 AM
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You want 20yo to be partnered already?? Do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:14 AM
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Dude, not that i agree with you, it's looks like a painful imagination. But you're saying that most women have divorces, which means they were married. i assume to men, so you kind of contradict yourself. And polygamy is still illegal so don't spin all "chads have all women" here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:09 AM
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Yes! I feel like RP guys like to claim that's it's just a tool to get success in dating, but where? Where is that success and why it's all about posting a lot how women are bad? Is this supposed to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:04 AM
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Can i upvote it second time? I'm tired of men treating men like babies, i don't want to be infantilized. I don't want men calling women "unempathetic" because they don't go around kissing "boo boos" and cooing for not getting pussy. Literally men stomp around "this girl doesn't like me" and expect "mommies" to come and say they are the prettiest boy in the world and it's her fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:00 AM
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Well i don't know. Last couple thousands of years it was in a men's hands and look where it lead us, a lot of not manly men who cry that women don't like them. I would say it's not that impressive of result.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:57 AM
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Gen Z (1997-2012). If you were born in 2012 you're what? 13 now? I'm not crying about dating dynamic because some 15 yo boy isn't getting any (dating...just to be clear)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:52 AM
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Mhm, you keep repeating that like i just see this phrase and will agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:49 AM
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Gen Z are too young to use their stats as some holy grail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:47 AM
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what stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:43 AM
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hhoray. most women want monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:36 AM
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What a weird thing to say. But also people with too much money regularly donate to charity. Why does it have to be so negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:33 AM
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Honestly this is stupid i don't even know what to comment. You say about caveman and then about harems.....harems were in some cultures way after cavemen. Your whole post is just some paranoia and forcing women to be something they are not based on....nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:25 AM
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most men and women are in relationship, seems like there is a fault in your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:23 AM
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Honestly i feel like this question was asked about 100 times already. Is it so hard to comprehend? Oh wait, it is, because "Women fuck with intention to lock Chad down"....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:07 AM
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Well i don't know, to me it sounds like a man a woman should choose for complicated task like having a baby (and also actually selecting to reproduce) that would be a top specimen and also a confident, provider and protector and someone who is rational, caring, someone who can be her partner in raising a child one way or the other. Sounds more masculine to me. But with all men's cries how they don't want to be men anymore i understand that it's hard to grasp and you want to shift the narrative t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:27 PM
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For you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:14 PM
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I agree with your point, the only thing i want to point out that "white" are minority already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:19 PM
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for real, like it's not happening with men. Like they don't want to have fun in their 20th and then have a family in their 30th.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:37 PM
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and why is that equal analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:18 PM
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Is this the only way to bring people together? I suggest make them interesting. Which is not hard to do really
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:55 PM
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Find what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:54 PM
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I think the obvious solution is to create more communal spaces to make meeting people easier. women aren't interested in men like men interested in women no matter the age, but there are younger men who go for older women and there are older women who want younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:44 PM
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Why does it seem weirdly personal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:41 PM
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"Just some ideas would be reducing work hours / career pressure, I feel like many young people sacrifice youth in order to achive well paying jobs instead of learning how to date and socializing," - that's actually not so bad. There is a world trend in shortening working hours that shows that people are more productive this way, but when it'll happen we don't know. But without it it'll just make hiring new people seem more expensive for companies which will result in screwing careers. "while wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:19 PM
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They also want babies (as long as women care for them)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:08 PM
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So no one. Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:06 PM
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How do you think it'll help? You think they will swipe on someone they don't like then? Or maybe more likely to just stop using apps at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:03 PM
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I don't understand that. To be called empathetic women should agree with something they do not? Or for example this commenter brought examples that she is afraid of men, also that she was poor and had to work harder than those who weren't poor to begin with, and she sucked it up and when another man comes with "women don't approach me" she shouldn't say "suck it up" like she does to herself? She should deal with whatever she deals with and alsoo "poor baby" men? I don't want that. I want people …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:02 PM
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But that was my first thought too. What is the proposed solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:57 PM
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Do tell. How many men do you know who married hoes? Not from internet too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:52 PM
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have you tried?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:19 PM
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"And we are not obligated to give them that. You forget something important - men want things too. " Never said men are obligated. You're arguing with something i didn't say. "That's cool, good luck. Your competition is women who are younger, hotter, and far less headache." My? So you know me? Anyway those women probably don't want commitment, so i think women are fine. "What man who spent his 20s building himself up to be the kind of man women want to marry choose a woman who spent her 20s bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 01:40 PM
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Seems like men don't mind much about women's past since majority are in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 01:04 PM
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What will that be? I mean respinsibility and consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:52 AM
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Let me help you. When people grow old their priorities change, they start to want different things, start liking different things, or finally have possibility to do something they wanted. So those women finally have a stable career and finally in a place where they want a child and feel ready. And of course to raise a child you need to find someone who'd be good, not just some random man from club, so they start dating seriously for different purpose with more criteria. It happens later in life …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:51 AM
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I asked you about commitment to women who partied or whatever. You gave me research about men wanting children. And now you’re asking proof that it’s not relevant? Well i don’t know man. Usually women after they party still have their womb and ability to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:05 AM
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You can add the research about do men like pineapple on pizza or not with same relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:03 AM
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Yeah, it seems like that to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:30 AM
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I don't know what to say here. They are humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:30 AM
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proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:27 AM
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not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:24 AM
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To me it's not what he said. And i completely understand the word consequences. It's not personal, but if women know that this lifestyle will limit the pool of their options then it's the consequence, there will be less options. How precious they are to women is another question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:22 AM
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Sometimes this sub is just funny. Like men's responses here "well then we won't marry" but then in any other threads they are saying how desperate they are, how all women need to do is just not be fat. And then they say that "men are logical, and all men say is backed up by logic". You can't make this shit up. At least women not virtue signaling that they are always rational and logical lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 09:17 AM
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That's one way to look at it. If you don't see why incels have reputation they have any rebranding or trying to differentiate yourself is just pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 08:25 AM
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You think the issue is people react too harshly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:20 AM
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you do realize that you commented it right below a comment that says that for men it's the only way to increase attractiveness? I assume for women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:00 AM
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Just a question, how quickly do you think this new term would be corrupted by others and would basically equal what incels now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:57 AM
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Honestly such an odd question. Women asked to not be approached in gym, guys listened. Then a woman says how great, okay, so it's positive feedback. And your question is "do you think it'll solve your loneliness epidemic?????" Like what? What are you proposing? Start approaching again? When women said they don't want to???
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:37 AM
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Usually i would agree with that, but just by your description she literally says that. She literally says don't approach me unless i like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:34 AM
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I think the truth is that nobody knows. I for example just heard about that from peers, porn etc, and just learned that it's like that. I'm not talking about what women like, i'm talking about how people talk about it, what's getting praised etc. And who is responsible for it? Women? Men? Who knows. It's just a culture by this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:30 AM
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debate them. Weird choice to bring your complains here where a woman already agreed with you. One might think there is nothing will ever be enough for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:08 PM
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I wasn't arguing are women entitled now or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:07 PM
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If you don't like women's company - don't date. If you want a sure deal might i introduce you to the concept of prostitution? Anyway, this complains are falling flat. Just don't date women who don't want to split the check - problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:06 PM
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Of course, nobody argues with that. The thing is there will be pregnancy and breastfeed time. And in that time a man should earn as much as he can, or better yes create a fund for this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:04 PM
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Even too much attention could also put her into too vulnerable position. Remember Pride and Prejudice? The tragedy of Jane when Mr. Bingley left wasn't just broken heart but also that he courted her and left without anything meaning he deemed her lacking, she was talk of the town. So without a propose....she had to keep a distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 04:41 PM
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Why stop there. the perfect time was 1500
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 03:16 PM
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Well she did, see what she got. Kind of not really something another want's to repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:54 PM
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And? One just did, asked what's to debate and what's to debate here???
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:50 PM
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I'm not attacking you, just stating what you're doing. If calling a spade a spade is offensive maybe the issue isn't in the one who saying this. I hope you'll have another answer that wouldn't be along the lines of "women wronged me".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:41 PM
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This is really embarrassing, right. when you insert yourself in conversation and speak out of topic and then when people point it out you say "it's not me who's wrong, you talk about wrong topic". Kind of childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:09 PM
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Good point, absolutely irrelevant to what i was talking about. Maybe you should read the conversation before making an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:57 PM
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Another speech with absolutely same message. What's the point for women to say something if you just ignore it and go on a rant how women wronged you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:53 PM
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Nice speech. Question. A woman just said that looks are important, you weren't satisfied, i've asked you what's more to debate and you got this interesting speech about "stop lying". Why aren't you satisfied when a woman says that looks are important? I tell you why, because your whole identity is about victimhood and how it's women fault for lying. It was never about women agreeing with you, it's about where you can shift blame for your lack of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:34 PM
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Still not answering my question. What you've listed is just to equal her effort with caring for a baby when it's there. Or making parents life a bit easier. But it's not equal to pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:29 AM
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What's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:06 AM
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The food is the issue. No, seriously. In US there is just unnecessary amount of sugar everywhere, you can't even suspect that it is there and it is. Then over processed food. Then vegetables that doesn't taste good. Then antibiotics that influence gut's microbiom that influences what we eat and also how fate we are. Then what mother does during pregnancy is also important. Then how people barely move anymore. In those poor countries people eat way more vegetables and less processed food, they mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:04 AM
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Add to nice boys: "why should we care about women's rights if they don't fuck us when we want? lets bring 1800 back"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 10:52 AM
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Are you human? Because last time i checked the pregnancy takes about 9 month, then there is postpartum with breastfeeding that takes up to two years. Of course a woman can still work during majority of that time, but not as productively as she was and will be later. That not to account any health damage she might have after and healing that she'll need. Anyway, what are you arguing about really? A man who wants to have a child with a woman shouldn't provide financial security? Shouldn't strive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 10:35 AM
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If you're pro equality how do you propose a man measure up for pregnancy and childbirth and breastfeed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 10:00 AM
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I have no idea what you just said. Women are free to choose a man who earns less, yes. But as a man, he should try to earn more if they will have a child. And if a woman wants a man who will support a family while she is being vulnerable - can you blame her? Wouldn't you make that choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:54 AM
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Men blaming women for not vetting. Women vetting men. "No. Not like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:43 AM
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Leaving out the initiating thing for now, why shouldn't man earn more? First there is no equivalent of what he can go through to match pregnancy and then breastfeed. Then it's also puts a woman in vulnerable position, she isn't as productive as before, pregnancy could be with complications, she might need more rest time etc. If a man wants a child he should definitely plan for it and be a safety net. It's not some equality game, if you're not in it 100% you shouldn't have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:42 AM
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I don't know about that. I think during courting men were expected to spend money and show that they are serious. And during courting there was nothing in return for it. So i'm not sure what do you mean. The only thing that woman should've done is to not accept courting from a man she isn't interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:38 AM
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"Modern day women definitely feel more entitled to men's money from the beginning even though theyre complete strangers." - what do you mean? I'm asking about "more" part. Because the way i see it across all cultures to court a woman men had to spend money, buy gifts etc. Like traditionally when a man dates a woman he pays for a date, no question asked. And it's not even considered a gift, it's just is. So what do you mean women are "more" entitled?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:06 AM
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And what do you want to debate here? You basically said that women only go for attractive men, only in phrasing that make is sounds like it's something bad and not at all what men do (yes men also do same thing, you can't tell me "but men find more women attractive" so what?). So what are you trying to debate? "women please don't go for attractive dudes, go for dudes you're not attracted to but with attitude that you're attracted to them"? Do you want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:33 AM
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Not only. They say they care. Men reading it like “oh, you have another criteria, means you don’t care about looks”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:44 PM
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Again it's women who are usually perpetuating this idea that all women are asexual or demisexual. Not that i agree that all women like that, you can be demisexual AND enjoy sex, what's confusing you? Or women saying they get depressed when thinking about how men sexualize them. thinking not that men sexualize them, but HOW they do it. It's all like with approaches, if all done respectful most people just flattered or uninterested and move on, it's the ones that are "hey babe, you need to sit tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:37 PM
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Well yes, a lot of people still won't do it, but my question is different. Do you think that illegality isn't a factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:25 PM
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If you're not willing to leave to enforce a standard - it's not a standard
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:56 PM
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do you think illegality isn't a factor for both men and workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:50 PM
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Then why did Bonnie Blue do it with 1057 men in 1 day? - A lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:37 PM
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They want to know they attracted that girl. Not bought. Sex is secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:25 PM
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You do realize that she didn't do it because that's what she likes and she did do it because that's something controversial that brought attention and money and a lot of money. I just googled and the rumor is she earns 2mil a month. So you can't really make an argument out of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:24 PM
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The whole debate is about people doing something not because "it's the right thing to do" but actually because they were forced or benefited from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:39 AM
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Having strikes when all factories depend on you was another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:32 AM
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I think men can jump onte another dick easily. Have you tried grindr?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:31 AM
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You mean like it is right now? There are people who are okay and more "progressive" and people who more "traditional" and conservative? Which means both ways are expressed in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:07 AM
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What are you talking about? Women got rights because they had men by the balls, because they literally were the workforce they needed to support their countries while men fought the war. Physical dominance also wasn't "decided" especially because "it was right thing to do", it changed with new weapons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:05 AM
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When men did that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:46 AM
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Yes, it is validating. Also i want to know that i have dating options if i choose to date again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:40 AM
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I don't know, but seeing men here trowing tantrums about paying for coffee and not getting anything in return if i were to date a man i would test him like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:08 AM
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Classic. "if you disagree with me you're emotional". Did i hurt your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:22 AM
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Interesting. So basically you always date in your league, and you define it as people you attract
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 06:30 AM
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So you believe men and dildos, okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:22 PM
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Some people are like that, sure. Some people aren’t, you just have to find compatible with you. You’re saying that apps make it harder, compared to what? Because i feel like there is some romanisation of the past, and then older people actually come and say that it was still hard and probably harder then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:15 PM
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So let me get this straight. Women (who have actually access to information about their orgasms and the ones dealing with dicks) say that it doesn’t work like that. Scientists say it doesn’t work like that. Men, who don’t have any knowledge about what women feel, and also not really like to talk about sex, pretty closed off i would say and take status from penis size, say that it is how it works, and you choose to believe them. They wouldn’t lie, unlike women who are interested in their orgasms.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:54 PM
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Studies and women say different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:23 PM
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Hate to break it to you but majority of women still need foreplay and will not come from your magic coch no matter the size.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:16 PM
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If by truth nuke you mean you destroyed the truth then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:04 PM
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Honestly they should be. Historically it always happened. When colonies were decolonized a lot of times former oppressors were massacred. It's a bit different with gender was since people are deeply intertwined, but we already see issues. I would want to stay on good side and deescalate situation, not do that kind of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 01:10 PM
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You mean the majority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:16 PM
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And that's all the demonstration needed for "men being logical". I don't see women doing shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:46 AM
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Why not separate those two?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:45 AM
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That's an issue, yes. What's the harm in approaching someone out of his league?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:30 AM
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I have to point out that you've started with an important issue (men didn't know when they are rejected) and continued with something not as important of men (and women) overestimating their attractiveness. Lets say ugly dude hits on a woman "out of his league". She says no, he moves on, no harm no foul. You never know when you'll get lucky, and why not? As long as it's respectful why do we need to block someone. It's another person's job to reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:26 AM
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and you're doubling down. Please do tell why fat people (and especially women) don't have eyes and brains so their opinion is invalid?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:04 AM
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you can add there bold and fat and over 45, or incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:02 AM
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I've talked to Americans women about arranged marriages and most are admittedly against (which i can respect),so I asked them why, they say it is misogynistic and rooted in time were men had control over who women could date, i said understand, I then asked what have your dating experiences been like, they've all been negative they replied, I asked why might that be because the quality of men are terrible they said. How can men be responsible for your own dating life choices if you have the free…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:26 AM
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It's so funny to see that especially on a contrast with post about men being logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:47 AM
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poly is open, cheating is not poly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:43 AM
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then it's not poly at all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 07:35 AM
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I'm pretty sure women already got the idea why and not wondering. What i usually see is that guy goes for too low percentage of fat for women's taste. And that brings questions, because guys claim they do it for women but ignore what women actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 06:59 AM
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No it's not. Cuckoldry need an element of a husband getting off on that. With poly he can be just indifferent or happy for wife but without sexual feelings tied to that. Anyway, you get this wrong way around. Cuckoldry is a part of poly relationship, but being poly doesn't mean cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:48 AM
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Having one weird post agreeing with you is not "proving you right"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 05:43 AM
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If that's how you introduce accountability i'm not surprised it's not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:58 PM
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Nice try, i'll ask again. Specifics please. Related to post. If that's how you introduce accountability i'm not surprised it's not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:39 PM
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I asked about specific examples. answering me "indirectly" with mere definition that i've already said is not answering at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:32 PM
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Give me specifics related to the post. What do you want women to be accountable for and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:30 PM
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What do you mean? What would be ideal for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:11 PM
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I don't know. You gave me definition i didn't ask for. That didn't even contradict what i've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:04 PM
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Tell me you've never lived in small cities without telling me. People in that small of community will know really soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:57 PM
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Why don't you answer my first question. Accountability for what and in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:56 PM
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I'm suspecting that people who talk about accountability in truth mean "punishment". Because being accountable is just facing natural consequences and not blaming anyone for your choices. What i've usually seen is "they should admit that they are bitches because they are not attracted to incels" and that's not a natural consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:36 PM
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Most people have less than 20 partners? What a shocker!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:18 PM
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For what and how would it look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 02:05 PM
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I assume that too when i see something like that. I mean if you're happy with your principles you just living your life and minding your business instead of judging someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 01:02 PM
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You can mean no malice but still support an idea of women giving obligatory sex to "help a man out". This man can buy an escort if he needs sex. And basically in the context of conversation is "if women admit that they have it easier than men...they should help out men by sleeping with them or setting up them with someone who would". That's what you think should happen. And if you think it's okay....I have no words. It's like women would say "if men admit that deadbeat dads are wrong then they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:18 PM
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TL;DR: "I want to scold women, but i want women to do it for me". Maybe mind your business, women don't owe you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:14 PM
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I'm sorry but WHAT? The question is about what would you do if women admit that it's easier for them, that's it. No strings attached. But if you think that if women admit that they have it easier makes them obligated to help you in a way of sleeping with you then i'm not surprised they won't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:06 PM
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We need volunteers!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:04 PM
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Please quote me where did i say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:03 PM
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Sadly that will be removed because no questions from women to women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 12:02 PM
2

Okay, and what now? Lets assume women admitted that. What will you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 11:51 AM
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Okay, you have it now, what next? You keep avoiding my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 10:55 AM
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okay, now you have it. what now? Edit. seems like nothing. because that was never the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 07:33 AM
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Lets imagine this happens. They say they have in easy. How does it change your life? What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 07:15 AM
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How do you define leagues?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:58 AM
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How the idea that i deserve better will help is there is no offer and companies disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:42 AM
3

And still those women were in his league because they found him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:38 AM
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Not that i encourage leading someone on, but relationship is pretty different for men than their behavior with their friends. Anyway interesting picture of reading out loud in the gym. Do you do that often? Poetry?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:37 AM
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You lost me here man. I replied on "people who have casual sex are disgusting". I asked why. Your analogy is flawed which is why i showed that it's not working there. You can not like casual, but if you think about people who have that as disgusting - something wrong with you. As was the point made in the comment i replied to. Have no idea about conversion and where did it come from. Does someone force this woman to have casual sex or like it? She didn't mention it so i'm operating on assumption…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:32 AM
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I'm just laughing at the notion that it was easy all along, just those "desperate" men who claimed they can't get any woman wanted to get an attractive woman. Same men who complain here about "women not staying in their lane and dating up" didn't stay in theirs. If the only women you're attracting are below average isn't that your league? Anyway, interesting post with all that myth destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:29 AM
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You can think that pineapple on pizza is disgusting but if I become disgusting because I like it there is something wrong with you. And here is more question about values. There are people who care about climate change. I don't. I'm focused on other things. Those people are not disgusting, and neither am i. In short mind your own business and life your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:18 AM
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I've had a friend and she was in abusive relationship. She wouldn't have ever realize that if she didn't share just some stories to us. One story was about sex, she completely thought it was okay and guy was low key assaulted her. I don't know, i was always pro sharing with friends. A lot of bad stuff could happen behind closed doors if people thought nobody would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:59 AM
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You see it as "easy for you to say". Why don't you shift perspective into "those people have that experience and that's their judgement"? I disagree that relationship and sex doesn't matter, but not many would claim so. But that doesn't mean that all your life should revolve around it. I have a tendency to think that something that i don't have will solve everything in my life if i start to have it, and in reality that never happened. I just started to have that. I think men really put a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:52 AM
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Why disgust? They just value different things than you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 05:47 AM
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I guess it all depends on who you want to attract
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 01:14 PM
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Interesting manipulation, either i think like you or i’m stupid….i can assure you there are couple more reasonable explanations
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:38 AM
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Then it’s risk and possibility to win, there is no point in complaining. Not all of us can be hot and over the top attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:51 AM
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I’ll take it as you don’t actually think about them, and know much about them, but virtue signalling that you care and you’ll be remembered.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:13 AM
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Depends on what you want. If you only want sex, then why jump through this hoops at all and not just buy it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:12 AM
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Interesting how there was a post about women liking nerdy guys, and reaction of men was “they don’t like nerdy, they like Henry Cavill, they just like tall hot guys”, and then there is a post when “women don’t like assholes” and somehow reaction isn’t the same, i mean shouldn’t it be “but they are tall and hot, women just like tall and hot, not assholes”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:23 AM
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Well yes, you work with the cards you have. Which means you might not have all those options hot guy has no matter what, and that means you might need to be nice to attract someone. If your wish is to be top 1% of guys with many options and you’re asking to achieve that, then it’s just unreal and you’re to blame, not the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:21 AM
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I have a question, does this apply to women? Should women be like that? I mean almost all of them have options, men are expendable, so it’s natural they should treat men like shit? And men shouldn’t complain because they do the same, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:17 AM
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This is ridiculous. How often do you think about people who lived 1000 years ago and their decisions? I’m sure without google you can’t even name their turning points let alone consequences for you. It’s the main hero syndrome, everything about you, your choices and people will remember it, you’re making history. Guess what? People don’t give a shit, you don’t know what will be considered important later, and i bet in 1000 years there maximum will be 1 page in history book about something happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:09 AM
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And men like for a plethora of reasons? Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:58 AM
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Anecdotes are examples
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:09 PM
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It’s not the reverse. Men don’t downplay their sexual desires to get relationship. And women don’t pretend to want relationship to get sex. In general, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:19 PM
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It’s like there are some generalisations that would work on most women are some that wouldn’t? How is that hard? I know that if I approach a woman she might like it, be open to it or not. But i also know that if i skip shower for two weeks and wear dirty clothes and approach no women would like that. Same thing with rizz and game. Some would like my jokes, some not, but if i skip on basic human decency they won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:58 PM
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Women are interested in sex. But generally they don’t lie that they are interested in relationships to get into man’s pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:50 PM
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"it's treated as an obligation"....oh wait, I think that's the case with women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:31 PM
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Then it should apply to 1. Only a small percentage of men actually work in the police, firefighters etc. 2. Working there is a choice 3. And it’s very hypocritical to say that men are more than just muscles to protect people and then say that they should get privileges for protecting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:22 PM
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It is happens often enough to show that monogamy isn’t in human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:07 PM
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If we were monogamous there wouldn’t be cheating. It would go against nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:45 AM
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You forgot all those cries about gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:20 AM
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In real life data. It’s official statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:20 PM
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Easy. Sex workers really care about safety, so they have safe sex also do regular checkups and cure anything problematic so they could legally work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:30 PM
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More than paying for dates for a chance to get sex? I mean you have to have multiple dates with different women and maybe multiple with the same to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:17 PM
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It's highly unlikely to get std from a sex worker, chances are less than with non sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:16 PM
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The point is "if he has money". With a woman he basically has it for free and with her paying half the rent and get to fuck her brain about "what does she brings to the table". Someone counted how much will it be to actually pay for what a woman does and it's expensive, most men can't afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:19 PM
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What accountability are you talking about? Low how would it look? If you don't want to chase that only means that you're either out of the dating pool or only have options of approaching women. So the result would be that accountability for women would be to deal with less options because some men would stop putting effort or put effort themselves. And that is already happening. If a woman is attracted she will approach or lose the opportunity. So what accountability are you talking about? What …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:42 AM
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I thought like OP that certain questions should be asked of men/women and didn’t understand why someone would ask question that should be asked of men in askwomen sub. But then i thought about it more and i think both perspectives are needed. For example let’s have OP’s question about “do men befriend women without romantic interest”. We can ask this in askmen, and they will say for example yes. This “yes” could be because they like to think that they would, not that they actually do. Or they wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:38 AM
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Interesting how calling shit out and being generally a good person is handicapping myself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:23 PM
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Well if that is the only reason for you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:23 PM
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That is a position. I too will put way less effort with strangers on the internet, but still if i’m pert of conversation i will call things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:22 PM
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Well I don’t know, apparently not. For me it is, because i just don’t want to support hate from any side and become one of those butthurt people. I also want to live according to my principles. It just feels good. I also want to connect to other people who are not hateful, who take responsibility for themselves and to do it i have to be one of them. So those are benefits for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:03 PM
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Different people have diff definition. But in this case being not okay with attacks or hateful lies about women will suffice. Calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:58 PM
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I mean you either call put things or not. Women controlling anything doesn’t have to do anything with your reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:57 PM
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So basically it’s still a transaction, and if you’ll not get a reward you’re okay people saying/doing whatever. That’s the point, that’s what speaks of character. Basically you are okay will all of this, but you are willing to do something for reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:56 PM
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Yes, and it’s exactly my point. It means they were not good people to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:54 PM
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I don’t know man, if you can’t find any motivation to call out shit, then don’t but it does speak of character. If you need me to pat your head and women to fuck you to admit that saying “women have no logic” is wrong, then you actually might as well agree with this and be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:24 PM
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Still dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:13 PM
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Considering that around 80% of men are in relationship or dating, can i think of as an admission of men being terrible? (Not that i agree, just checking for logic)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 09:31 PM
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Mhm, and plenty of women wouldn’t. If it’s easier fot you it doesn’t mean that it’s objective and women’s complains aren’t valid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:23 PM
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“Often”. But you still can
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:10 PM
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Can i introduce you to fine and old profession that provides an exchange of money for great service of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:40 AM
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Thanks for proving my point about complete lack of empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:39 AM
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I propose men develop compassion to each other, apparently a concept so foreign to you that you can’t even stay on topic and use excuses like “we need adventure” or something like that. What does that have to do with anything. Are you saying that men are just incapable or compassion unless they fucking a woman, and even then not so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 06:39 AM
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Being used is being used. Having no empathy is having no empathy. Seems they are more similar than you think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:26 PM
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Of course you benefit. Unless you are a virgin. Before you could have sex only after marriage. Or with a risk that you’ll be forced to marry. Now it’s not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:11 PM
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I agree with last statement, everyone has to learn how not to judge and shame people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:14 PM
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Jerk off, cum and then think. And develop compassion. Helps in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:43 PM
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I’m sick of this “biologically this and that”. We developed prefrontal cortex, we can also use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:34 PM
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What do you want them to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:03 PM
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And that is based on what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:08 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:00 PM
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Mhm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:17 PM
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Is this hard to understand that you will experience different things not necessarily equal pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:55 PM
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Okay, you recommended a movie, but what’s to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:50 PM
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You can hold money, it’s tangible. You can’t hold sex that you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:48 PM
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If time is not mutual exchange then sex isn’t either. It’s all depends on what a person gets out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:39 PM
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That’s exactly what i wanted to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:38 PM
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We all hear men that they will fuck women even if they don’t like them, not really attracted to them and so on. So i would argue it doesn’t really mean that it’s more “you” if the only thing matters is a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 02:00 PM
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You kind of contradicted yourself. You’re saying that only losers are complaining, and then you say that successful men, who “learned to keep leaches away…” meaning it is a concern for them, meaning they have to vet people around them. So what did i get wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:59 PM
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Both parties enjoy relationship, men can’t be used
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:57 PM
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You can’t measure impact really, it is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:56 PM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:25 PM
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Hm, yes, i can see your point in people afraid to admit something is reasonable out of fear of losing, and judging by other’s behaviour i can’t say it’s without a reason. But it does make situation worse. About “have your cake and eat it too” could be said about men also. They want sex early and they benefiting from sexually liberated society, but they don’t want give anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:15 PM
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How will you measure this? Because i could argue that using for sex is attack on bodily autonomy, or i could argue that sex is valuable to some people and giving that you can’t get it back, while money can be earned or paid back. For some people it will also decrease value of a woman, i’ll leave out what i think about them, but there are people like that, including that women. Using a guy for money will not make him any less valuable in anyone’s eyes. I don’t want to argue those points, just wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:10 PM
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So again, using men is bad, but using woman completely fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:04 PM
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Sure. But there is lots of conversations from men how they want sex pretty soon because they want to be wanted and they try to reach across to women that they don’t want to jump through hoops for scraps of desire. I’ll leave out some controversial thing they say out, because i wanted to talk about intent. Same thing with women about being used. And seems like neither side understands each other, and that they actually in the same boat here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:03 PM
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Expected=/=want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:00 PM
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Not dating them is not the same as them not existing and not encountering them at all. You can say that to women too, don’t date men who’ll use you for sex, and you’ll be right, but it doesn’t erase a concern and need to vet people based on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:49 PM
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Of course, i didn’t say all women are gold diggers. But some totally are. And it is a valid concern for a man to choose someone who isn’t. That was all i said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:47 PM
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You can ask for sex under false pretences. How can you do financial fraud if a person has a final say of transferring money?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:46 PM
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That is true. Maybe if men had sympathy for each other many problems would resolve themselves quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:45 PM
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Of course not. I never implied that women can’t be used for resources too. Or that relationships with them bear no benefits. It’s just not a common voiced concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:15 PM
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So it’s not okay to use men, but completely fine to use women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:28 AM
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I guess if you choose to read it like that my explanations are pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:27 AM
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Of course blaming an entire gender is unhealthy. My point was not to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:12 AM
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I mean even if we’re not talking about gold diggers that go for rich men, it’s hard to deny that living in two income household is easier than on one. Also due to pay gap and things like that finding a man who earn more than a woman might be easy, not by a lot, and depends on where they live. But still, it could be a valid reason for wanting a relationship if there is an okay option. And if a man doesn’t want to be settled for that is a lie and using him. It’s not at all about fairness. Same cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:11 AM
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Yes, i disagree that only “chads” do that, but that’s basically the thing i wanted to point out. When men are more likely to be used for what he can provide, women are more likely to be used for sex, and time would be wasted if they want relationship based on emotional attachment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:04 AM
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Some might. Some might settle for different reasons, like peer pressure and need to become a family for some reason. It is a valid concern if you want a relationship where another person will like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:01 AM
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But when a woman will want commitment and loyalty, will there not be men who will lie for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:48 AM
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And how is this relevant to what i was saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:46 AM
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Well yes, but imo they are not gold diggers just because they benefit from relationship. Intent matters, why they are in relationship matters
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:27 AM
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In a way. But in some places people marry just to have bigger tax benefits, so it’s not like in this economy it’s rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:25 AM
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That is true, men have to have standards. But again, is this definitive that if a woman earns less she will be a gold digger?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:12 AM
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Not sure i get the analogy. There is no mark on people who want to use you. They look and talk the same as those who are genuine, at least at first. You have to vet them with some strategy. They will lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:11 AM
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I don’t know about most modern women, but there are some that will do that. I don’t think most women would, just acknowledging the phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:53 AM
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How it is weaponizing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:41 PM
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You think before was better? Okay, my case is rested.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:19 AM
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Pur resources into raising a kid, usually in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:00 AM
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Same way? Because women are known for complaining about lack of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:31 AM
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Sure, i hope those men stop screaming about how scared they are not to have kids and so on. Because guess what do they need to do for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:12 AM
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How do you know? It sounds like you never pass the threshold anyway, how do you know that after is all sunshine and rainbows? Also how do you know that you didn't pass the threshold but not like you passed it but personality took your chance away?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:34 AM
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These ideas of sex strike are frequently there, and I usually roll my eyes because "we want sex, lots of it. What is the solution? We will have even less sex than now, all of us, unite!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:31 AM
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Okay. And why do you think it means that other stuff is less important? It’s easy to think that “if personality doesn’t give me a chance, if i don’t have looks, that means it’s optional”, but having bad personality could just take away your new found chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:13 AM
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Maybe because those men are obviously bitter and blue pillers don’t know if the looks as much of an issue as he claims but his personality would definitely will not help?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:09 AM
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That could be said for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:47 PM
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As far as i’ve seen people do not claim looks don’t matter, they claim they don’t matter as much as rp claims and that personality matters more than rp claims. I’ve seen a lot of complaints about advice “be nice and you’ll get dates” and yet i’ve never seen this advice, which makes me think that it is either given by small minority and reaction is blown out of proportion, or that it is crooked interpretation of a real advice or put out of context of real situation. I’ve seen attractive men losin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:20 PM
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Society can be mad, the question will you find a woman 10 years younger (also having kids is not about age). Being bad for breaking up is kind of common thing for both genders, you probably will have to deal with that anyway. If a guy is coerced it is his responsibility to leave anyway. That’s just how it works, you make a decision and face consequences. And it’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:56 PM
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Their responsibility, just as their choice and responsibility to stay or leave when they realise “the truth”, and discover the truth too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:36 PM
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There is no point denying all of that mixed together. Even if i disagree what am i supposed to argue? All 10 tropes? With all nuance? At the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:32 PM
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I will not question the data, lets assume it’s right. But number one question i have is who forces men to be step fathers if they don’t want to? If it’s so bad as you’ve said, then why are they dating single moms, and why are they becoming step fathers if it is awful? Second question i have is what is the alternative? Blended families exist for a reason, mainly i assume because parents don’t want to be alone and caring for children easier with another adult to help and another income to share. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:30 PM
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You put so many tropes in your post that it’s just impossible to argue. Basically someone hurt you on the internet and you decided to make a post about. It was funny to read when you said “i won’t name names” like it’s official hr meeting about issues in company
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:24 PM
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I do get that, women do make poor choices for different reasons, a lot of times they are obvious to anyone with eyes. The thing is that a lot of times those bad men are not obvious, and when a woman complains a lot of men are quick to jump to the conclusion that it was obvious and she just chose it no matter what, and it might just not be so. And then it comes down to fight when women try to say that men don’t understand, and men say that it’s women’s fault for choosing wrong. Which is why “choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:17 AM
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I don’t know why are you putting “i’ll be fine on my own” vs basic reproductive instinct. What does it have to do with anything? A woman can be physically attracted to someone and still be fine on her own. I just don’t understand your point. Cameras will not make women safe. Lights will not make women safe. Don’t get me wrong it is safety measures, because some men would think about do they want to be seen, but eventually is there is no one who will physically stop men it’s just decreasing a ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:02 AM
1

You do realise that question was not about your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:43 PM
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Getting std from a sex worker is less likely than just from hookup. Usually they do check ups regularly and take care of safety. With other women it’s not a rule. She might think about safety or not, might do checkups or not. So generally sex workers are safer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:14 PM
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Good question, i have my answer, but you wouldn’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:18 AM
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But chinese society is different from european, they are way less individualistic. Eastern asian societies can’t be model for western european, just because they are too different in their core.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:16 AM
3

Well okay wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:57 AM
4

Why do you assume i know turkish and more than that we should switch to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:53 AM
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I don’t know man. I had a grandfather, he was 1,5m in height, maybe 1,55 and after he was widowed, which happened before i was born, he had loads of ladies. Literally changed them until found one he liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:09 AM
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That is true, but men hated women before too. I think important part is women have a choice now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:57 AM
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I’m sorry, if police stopping you from talking to women then you do something wrong. If a woman needs friends and family to stop you from having sex with her it doesn’t sound like sex. Especially next to sentence about men being a better warriors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:51 AM
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Is there anything to argue? This is just truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:21 PM
3

Do you like shallowness in people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:14 AM
3

It’s hypocritical when you say people shouldn’t drink tea and yet you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 10:54 AM
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It is hypocritical because you claim you don't like people who are approaching because of looks, and you describe it as shallow, yet when you give signals, meaning approaching in women's style, you do exactly that. Men might like it, but you shouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:19 AM
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I think it’s a bit hypocritical. You don’t like being approached because it is shallow, but how do you decide who to give signals to? You literally doing the same thing that you don’t like in others. Not trying to make you love approaches, just telling that either reason is actually different, or it is hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:06 AM
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“In what society” apparently in a crazy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:42 AM
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Values don’t really pass this way. Many feminists are from conservative families. Society has more to do with what people will believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:21 AM
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Em, what do you expect, that you be liked by anyone you want? Because it’s unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:14 PM
1

If the guy complains about women making a dent in his pocket do you think prostitutes are the solution? Or being a passport bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:57 PM
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By all means, don’t date, i was just saying that it’s not failing but more like you just stop doing it. Just by your last point it’s obvious that you don’t like women. In that case there is no point for you to date at all, just buy a flashlight, it would be cheaper. To comment on rest of things the difference is in perspective. It’s like ability to take couple punches in boxing. You can cry that it hurts and why are you being hit, but I realise that it’s just part of the game and just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:40 PM
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I don’t know man, because 1. It’s no bother, it’s experience and could be fun even if nothing grows out of it 2. I want to find someone i would like? But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:03 PM
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Why don’t you make them interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 05:00 PM
4

That’s not failing, that’s just not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:55 PM
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You are the prize according to whom? Your mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:30 PM
1

Are you sure you are interesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:29 PM
6

Yes they do. And in critical stages it’s incels. Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:11 PM
2

Starting as adult makes it harder. Well making any kind of friends as adult is harder. I was talking more about adolescents because that was the point of OP. If we’re talking about adults, i think men who are without social skills are at huge disadvantage. I can’t even recommend finding hobby group, because then what? He probably will be seen creepy or awkward without knowledge on how to normally interact with women. Can’t also forget that lonely men without social skills and understanding of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:04 PM
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Maybe. But making new friends is always an active effort. My point still stands, you need to create a dynamic when men would be friends with women to learn what social skills are needed. Also to gain a new perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:20 PM
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I guess it depends on people in your life. Nobody forces me. Need of intimacy is there, yes, but i doubt it will go away even if society will change. It’s natural to want someone close to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:43 PM
5

But everyone can already live comfortably without key social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:37 PM
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I don’t think the issue women are not viewed as people by men is in fact that they didn’t have enough sexual encounters, or romantic one. I think it’s socialisation, when men isolate themselves from female friendships, when they start to vies them as pussies to get to raise social status among other men. So different social dynamics probably will solve it, but not what you offered. Actually interesting how many men think all problems will disappear if women will just fuck them. Yeah, their probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:26 PM
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It does if women refuse all of them. Which was the point of my question, i asked about women who chose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:12 PM
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“Our product just too good so people don’t buy it”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:46 AM
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They are entitled to decide what women value is in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:33 PM
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Potato potato. If women don’t see value then there no value in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:28 PM
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So basically average guy can’t offer anything of value to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:08 PM
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So basically average men don’t give anything valuable to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:04 PM
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Same could be said about men. Previously they chose the prettiest girl in the village, now their standards are higher. Same thing about ugly bff. But that doesn't stop men wanting an average woman and many women don't want an average man anymore. So why?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 05:04 PM
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The question is why doesn’t she want average guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:07 PM
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Where did i stated that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:24 PM
3

And that’s the reason you’ll give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:09 PM
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Dating is not about who deserves what. And the question should be why “objectively average” woman doesn’t want “objectively average” guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:06 PM
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Well apparently that’s difficult to grasp for men. They have this weird ideas of leagues and that you should lower your standards, and zero reasoning why should you. Apparently because he wants it so. Med do like to control women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:04 PM
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Yes, that’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:57 PM
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This. People always have a choice and responsibility for it. Just choose what you want and stick with it, and stop blaming others for not doing what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:57 PM
5

Yeah, you live in your own world. Maybe you should talk to women how SA happens
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:55 PM
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Sure, all valid issues (I disagree that paying on dates are not huge for men, because they sure whine about it a lot). But you agree that women face similar issues, and you just dismissed physical danger, and made it seem like men’s issues are bigger, so that’s exactly the point i was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:35 PM
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Thanks for the lecture that “perfect guy” has options, well duh. All this misses the point that many women chose to stay single with all this “rosters” which means those options are not options. So how it is easier for them if they don’t have options?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:22 PM
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Say this to all others who 1. Say they need anyone good looking 2. Those who flooding her dm’s. When it’ll stop i might believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:20 PM
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What makes you think so? I agree about killing, but it is still a risk. But raping? Wouldn’t be so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:10 PM
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Nobody makes choices that make it harder for them unless it’s a gamble. So staying single is easier. I’ve yet to see women complaining about that too. Also “not considered humans” is your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:08 PM
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Sure, so that means they don’t really have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:06 PM
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Oh yes, all because of pictures of “perfect couples” if you believe in that i just don’t see the point in arguing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:04 PM
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One of the proofs would be that many men still want them as is. They are might be entitled and lazy and so on, but if men want them they are good options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:01 PM
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It’s not his fault of course, it is just the reality that women don’t want him as he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:54 AM
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You just can’t understand that. 37% is a huge number, not a majority but who cares, it’s a huge. More than a one third of women withdrawing themselves from dating. They know they can lower standards, they are not willing to, for some reason. For some reason being alone is preferable than being with a man even tho a lot of them would like to date and tried to. Your answer “it is not hard because they can choose someone they don’t like” is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:54 AM
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I’m sorry but that sounds like your imagination. How a woman can be overwhelmed with likes on dating app, she just swiped as much as she wants and have full control of her matches. Also her effort has nothing to do with it, she can put as much as she wants. Still doesn’t explain why they giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:50 AM
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If it would be so many women wouldn’t choose to stay single. They don’t consider even settling for those guys, which means that you probably overestimate how many boxes this guys would check.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:37 AM
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Sure. But that means that average guy is not an option they like. So much so that many choosing to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:36 AM
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In your opinion and probably because you like political messages of liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:31 AM
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Okay, so those rosters are pointless, and women don’t have options or very few, which means they don’t have it easier?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:30 AM
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Yes, but why? Many women want a partner, but they choose not to have one. That’s the key.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:29 AM
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So they don’t have it easier, because they don’t have options, or very few, just like men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:28 AM
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Nah man, i’m not trying to win a war here. Men have their struggles of course, just usually they are presented in a way that they are the only struggles everyone needs to consider, and that’s just narcissistic. A lot of you need to touch the ground and look a bit further than your own bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:27 AM
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“Perfect guy” is free not to settle, i don’t know why you brought it in a first place. Sure, women have a rosters. And they still choose to stay single. Which means that those men are not an option for her. So exactly what i’ve said. So how is it easier to date then, if they don’t have options they like?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:25 AM
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This made me laugh. Women have it easier, with small difference of fear of rape and death, but it’s minor, man have their struggles too (which usually means not enough attention or need to pay for a date), so basically women ‘s struggles are less then men’s. I love this sub, no wonder lots of women want to be single with this amount of sympathy they receive
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:21 AM
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If it’s so easy for women, why are so many women chose to stay single?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:18 AM
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So basically what you’re saying that men can’t fulfil the needs of women, and women are staying single, but somehow dating is easy? How so if they have no options they like?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:17 AM
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Pointlessly politicised. That could be said about any group of people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:10 AM
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If it’s so easy for women why a lot of them want to stay single?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:08 AM
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Standard are not there to get me with other people, the are there to tell me what i’m not willing to tolerate. If no one reaches my standards i can stay alone or take a risk and compromise or broaden my search. If i’m not reaching anyone’s standards then i can try to find out why and improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:55 AM
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Thanks man, i’m happy i didn’t waste my time on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:42 PM
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Read another comments
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:49 PM
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Still proves my subjective point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:49 PM
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I’m fine with them being unrealistic, but i gave no one a right to tell me what i should accept, and what should be “reasonable” for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:19 PM
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Really? Say that to Chad. Anyway some people actually like to date, so to them dating is worth it and not much effort. If you hate women tho, of course anything you have to do for them is exhausting, especially to pretend you like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:17 PM
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Man, you either recognise that both genders choose, and that means “choose better” is advice for both, or give me arguments why not. Because what you say right now sounds like “women who complain about bad men should choose better, but men who complain about women can do nothing, but of course they are responsible” responsible how? All i see is victims mentality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:15 PM
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I didn’t sign any agreement about what my standards should be and didn’t receive the memo about what “objectively accepted” is. I’ll choose something that i’ll like, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:04 PM
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Yeah, yeah, men are forced to just take what’s given. The length some men go to just not take responsibility and not to put it on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:03 PM
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What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:45 PM
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They are free to have any standards they want. Just like you or me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:45 PM
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Empathy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:09 PM
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If we’re being serious (for those who didn’t recognise i answered just as some men answer to women’s issues), then you can have any standards you want, and really no one forces you to date, and if you feel like it’s too much work and reward is not enough then stop doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:47 PM
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It’s subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:45 PM
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Maybe you should lower your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:42 PM
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I mean if you choose women who force you to jump through hoops then choose better. Also by all means nobody forces you to date, it’s just the reality. Want to date of course you need to put some effort in it, women won’t fall at your feet just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:38 PM
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I didn’t see bumble in early stages, but concept of women first messaging feels a but stupid. They all mostly message hi or something just to open chat and it feels like extra step for chatting. But i don’t know, maybe the idea of app as it is no matter how many questions you’d ask is just won’t work. I agree about “vibe” that is usually seen in person, you can’t really show it on pic, it’s about how a person carries himself. Maybe something like on italki would work? There are teachers shoot sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:03 PM
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Not that i support format, but i had a friend who used dating site without that filter and you can only imagine how her inbox looked like, she showed me once. 200+ new messages in an hour. Hour!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:45 PM
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Honestly, i have no idea. I mean women are visual of course, but they talk about personality. While i’m not sold that they care about it much, but they have a point of needing to weed out assholes. Or since they usually looking for marriage they are focused on shared values. But the thing is even thinking about it now i’m trying to modify already existing model that is failing kind of, so maybe it should be something else entirely. I don’t know, maybe with possibility to leave a feedback? I real…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:42 PM
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You do you. But foetus is actually aggressive thing, and i kind of like my body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:38 PM
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I read the thought that dating app used male gaze to make them, and i can’t stop thinking about it. I mean on the dating apps the most important thing is your profile picture. That’s it. All about looks. And that’s why it seems that in person those who are failing in dating apps are doing good. Also the fact that women barely use them. It’s all actually telling that they were made by men for men with no idea of women in mind, and now it’s screwing men up. I have no idea what app for women should…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:37 PM
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Well yes, but there is still part that people should like to be around you. Even if you’re homebody you still have to be someone interesting and pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:32 PM
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Actually i’m not sure. There were studies where it was shown that foetus can grow basically anywhere, it just needs access to blood vessels, and win the fight with immune system, so in theory…. Studies were on mice (obviously).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:31 PM
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It’s not only about harvesting for medical purposes, production of eggs more costly than semen. And, well being incubator is way more costly than not being. In a hermaphrodite species, if we’re talking about those who can be both a female and male at the same time, they all try to inseminate but avoid insemination, just because of resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:29 PM
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Who do you think raised all those liberal women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:23 PM
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Something about male loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:24 PM
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That reminds me of something….what could it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:56 PM
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There are two types of guys, those who have relationships and like women, and those who are lonely and call them simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:42 PM
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That’s the leader! Where do i kneel?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:24 AM
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Also, lead her where?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:18 AM
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Is this what women want? Sure, statistically yes. Is this all women want? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:42 AM
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You do realise that this could be done without marriage only recently, only in western countries because of feminism and women who didn’t wanted to be led by men? There are two pints here. 1. You basically say marriage without marriage, because before like hell you’d live with a woman or having kids like that. So you want all benefits from marriage but don’t like any responsibility, figures. 2. It happened because women didn’t want to be led and tied to men, so your “all women blah blah” is just…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:19 AM
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Really, if marriage isn’t beneficial for men by all means let them stop marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:52 AM
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Nobody argues that Chad is attractive, but there is an argument that being a Chad will just get you through the door, it will not guarantee you stay. But that’s when women and men don’t understand each other. Women think that ultimate goal is relationship, while men think that ultimate goal is access to sex with as many women as possible. Two different goals, which makes sense, and why men are so reluctant to listen to women when they say about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:46 AM
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If we’re talking about personality- sure, people rarely change, no point in waiting, especially since the guy usually doesn’t want to change (not like women do, but since we’re talking about women’s perspective in dating i would talk about men). But if we’re talking about career, money, status, that’s debatable. Women can risk and find a guy who has all of those, but what chances are for that? For those guys there probably insane competition, and if a woman is not in his social circle i would sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:40 AM
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I've tried to tell that to men, I got only defensiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:56 AM
3

Yes, just yes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:43 AM
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He is just trans woman. You have nice hetero relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:35 PM
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Also what’s to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:45 PM
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Yes please. Would be also good if you consulted reality before too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:58 PM
1

That means that those babies were just stolen from places where stork are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:57 PM
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Well I don’t why would it matter, no idea really. Did you know that there is correlation between amount of stork’s nests and birth rate. That means that actually babies are brought from stork. Also did you know that there is correlation between length of women’s skirts and stock prices, obviously women dressing more frivolously to raise company value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:45 PM
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Well they feel that women are settled for this men, so they are wrong using your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:27 PM
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That’s the thing. Correlation doesn’t mean causation, and it’s dangerous to interpret this data (with questionable quality) like the undeniable truth. Women might’ve react on something that were’t in this research.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:25 PM
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You didn’t understand what i’ve said at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:23 PM
2

Me using your narrative against you is a problem? I don’t think so. That is the truth yes. Some men are settled for. And some are not, but this narrative spins it to the point that any man who isn’t 666 is settled for, and it’s just simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:22 PM
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Those guys will tell that this woman just settled when it will not fit their narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:40 PM
5

Yeah, i was expecting that. Took you two minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:39 PM
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Easy, it’s not “unique” but more like women are attracted to variety of things. So of course if you have more attractive qualities you’ll attract more women, less qualities less women, having repulsive qualities will do it’s job too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:35 PM
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Probably because to women it is better. And for men it isn’t. They have different interests there. Men want sex and willing to do relationship in order to get some or to get sex regularly. Women want relationships and sex, and if you can provide one but not the other you’re lesser in her eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:23 PM
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Because people are not vending machines that will give everyone everything? She might have been in a different place in life, she might have felt pressured, she might’ve been curious but not anymore. There are moods, vibes. Women are not programs that run checks and give you result like oh, you passed 7 out of 10 no anal for you. Please get a better job to increase your rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:41 PM
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Who decides what men are on their level? Because to me it sounds if she can get it they are on her level.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:35 PM
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Sounds right. They imagined something, then felt insecure, then lashed out on women, and women are not able to convince them otherwise, all they say are brought to grotesque. I would argue that the fact that men don’t think “i want to control women” doesn’t mean they don’t want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:43 PM
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Lots of words no essence. “Men don’t fully understand what it entails” and what exactly it entails? Why is it bad? Ignorance of what? Even if it’s just a dating strategy, what if it works for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:44 PM
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Dating is not about who deserves what, who even decides what qualities should be universally rewarded. There are different dating strategies with their success and failures. And it’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:53 PM
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Okay, and those men competing for Becky? When they have their pick? And probably Stacy too?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:50 PM
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Well i was arguing because example was extreme and unrealistic. If we put it your way then sure, competition is higher, because everybody has more options now and all competing for them at the same time. But also how do you observe this? How do you know that those men are very attractive to women? Women been telling a lot that they take into account diff things, and most of them men do not value/understand. So men’s opinion on who is “very attractive” is skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:40 PM
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In real life? Never
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:22 PM
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That also doesn’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:12 PM
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You’re delusional if you think NFL players and Millionaires compete for Becky. Maybe in romance books.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:08 PM
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People hide lots of things behind “jokes”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:00 PM
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What a rollercoaster of a post. We don’t know how culture shapes attractiveness but we know it does to some extent. There are trends so to speak and they influence people. Also there are social norms and they shape attractiveness too. We are not just born with an image of ideal man/woman. And what we find attractive changes with time too. That goes for looks more, but behaviour too. Also it is a slow process, i think it takes decades. I agree that you can’t just make cultural adjustments and mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:00 PM
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I smell jealousy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:35 AM
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Do you think anyone are here for dating advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:20 AM
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