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7

Or maybe there's no reason to ban you...
/r/MensRights25/10/22 06:19 AM
10

I was not familiar with the subreddit, but if the goal is to make friends, not relationships, why does every post have the gender+age in the subject?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:38 PM
18

I saw some interview on youtube the other day, asking 3 girls who is better at improving themselves, men or women. They all answered that women are better at self improvement. Then they were asked to rate themselves, and they all claimed to be 10/10.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 07:07 AM
1

You present your argument first.
/r/MensRights22/10/22 03:52 AM
1

No, it's not naive to understand the differences in biology between men and women. Did you have an actual argument?
/r/MensRights22/10/22 03:21 AM
41

More importantly, we need a change in police and justice system where people don't get their lives ruined based on unverified accusations.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 04:26 PM
3

Must be their bad technique.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 06:06 AM
6

It's well meant, but you don't need to apologize on behalf of others.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:27 AM
8

"What guy wouldn't want it? Male victimization experiences with female-perpetrated stranger sexual harassment" What an absurd title.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 09:11 PM
25

I avoid everything, except the occasional thing that is recommended by people whose opinion I trust. There's more than enough good quality 20th century entertainment.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 01:48 PM
2

Our dress code is 'whatever you want', so I'm just wearing some old jeans and 2nd hand t-shirts with random prints.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 11:20 AM
1

Is she a bricklayer or a tiktok star making videos of her laying bricks in cute outfits ? That part was not clear to me.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 06:43 AM
2

if Me Too was re-educating men on how to and how not to treat women Did it work ? Are there now fewer cases of harassment ?
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:09 PM
5

Patriarchy is a social system in which positions of dominance and privilege are primarily held by men We don't have that.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:07 AM
8

Explain crime, then.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 05:31 AM
11

What's the point of crying if people are only going to kick you down harder?
/r/MensRights12/10/22 04:18 PM
1

Due to biological differences, there will never be complete equality.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 12:20 PM
1

It's easy to post a bad quote. If you add up all the quotes, and see how many agreements (positive replies, upvotes, awards) you get, the feminist groups are all much worse.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 05:22 AM
1

Why is it different for sex?
/r/MensRights11/10/22 11:09 AM
1

What if you're drunk, and your friend asks you to drive. Is the friend at fault, or you ?
/r/MensRights11/10/22 10:58 AM
1

If you decide to drink, and you make stupid choices, you are responsible for the consequences.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 10:23 AM
1

No, having sex can be a consequence of women's action of drinking.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 10:17 AM
5

It starts out with blatant lie that "[women are] still making 81.8 percent of what mean[sic] earn for the same work performed by men", so I'll just ignore the rest as equally poorly researched.
/r/MensRights10/10/22 03:43 AM
1

Depends. If you scare people away by crying, you may end up in worse problems. You have to decide if it's worth taking the risk.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 12:47 PM
1

Maybe explain what is this about?
/r/MensRights09/10/22 03:46 AM
1

The article is hopelessly vague. I would have loved to see a few examples of men coming in with a relatable problem ("I'm working 12 hours, and can barely keep my family alive"), and going out with a solution. ("be a better man?")
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:55 AM
8

Psychological research strongly suggests that a big part of all of these problems is that young boys, in elementary school and even earlier, are made to feel that conforming to masculine norms is obligatory I wonder how this "research" was conducted. Before we had all these problems, did we not enforce masculine norms on boys?
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:27 AM
1

If you're not funny, charming, socially fluent or rich, it's not "easily" changed.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 11:40 AM
18

OP isn't crying, just trying to solve his problem.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 11:30 AM
27

If you have a small rock in your shoe that hurts your foot when walking, do you leave it in because homelessness hasn't been solved yet?
/r/MensRights05/10/22 11:11 AM
91

Also, testing medications on women can be very risky if the woman happens to be pregnant, or may accidentally get pregnant during the trial. The biggest factor in male survival chances is simply the fact that the male body is stronger. Even if all crash test dummies were designed as women, men would still have an advantage.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 04:58 PM
4

Simply ignore everything that's written on the page by Redstate, and watch the video.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 04:16 AM
1

There's a video.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 04:05 AM
2

We should also encourage more men to go into tech.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 10:16 AM
31

Feel free to leave.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 05:20 AM
4

If they don't get enough people, the pay is not sufficient.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 05:14 AM
2

If they get enough people, the pay is sufficient.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 05:06 AM
7

First part is more true than the second part. Men have always been interested in higher learning, but lately women have been more encouraged.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 05:05 AM
5

Out of all the women interested/qualified to get a tech job, how many succeed ? How does that compare to men ?
/r/MensRights28/09/22 04:57 AM
28

we need women more than men No, women just don't want to die, and ask men to die for them instead.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 12:22 PM
4

Women need men like a fish needs a bicycle. Help is not appreciated.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 11:46 AM
1

Your kids won't be bullied, because everybody's mom will have an OF page. It will be the other way around... "yo mom's so ugly, she doesn't even have onlyfans!"
/r/MensRights26/09/22 04:49 AM
2

Girls/women are trying to pick the best candidate to be a mate that can provide for them. If a man cries because he can't handle his life, it's less likely he can handle hers as well as a child's.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 07:18 PM
3

Laundry or loading the dishwasher are like 15 minute jobs at best.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 07:16 PM
3

I have two kids, and it was never a big deal. Most of the time they were either asleep, at school, or playing with friends/siblings/by themselves.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 07:14 PM
2

I think you forgot that you were an idiot.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 07:09 PM
1

Outdated facts are apparently perfectly okay for the BBC to create a refresher article about. The question is whether modern feminist have come to their senses, and also realize these old complaints are "outdated".
/r/MensRights25/09/22 04:40 PM
2

So we're just giving everybody free money, paid by a tax on big companies, who get their money from consumers buying their products. In the end, we'll end up paying it ourselves, like I said.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 03:18 PM
1

So everybody gets the same amount, even if they don't do shit ?
/r/MensRights25/09/22 03:08 PM
2

The article was just posted on the BBC website, and not in the 'funny' section.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 02:57 PM
1

They are compensated by having children. If that's not enough reward, don't have children.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 02:54 PM
3

Who would pay it, and who would be in charge of determining the appropriate amount? In the end, we'll end up paying ourselves, but with a lot of extra bureaucracy.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 02:53 PM
3

Raising children and doing housework are both easy and take much less than 8 hours per day. In addition, there are few consequences for doing it wrong.
/r/MensRights25/09/22 02:51 PM
1

Car crashes aren't common either, but we still have seatbelts and airbags.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 05:22 PM
3

My voice is my ... passport... please verify me.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 05:20 PM
1

The question is why you would not expect resistance in trying to get to the 0.01% top of society. There's not much room there. Just because men succeed more often, doesn't mean that they are getting favors. It can also mean they have more dedication and skills.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 04:40 AM
2

Assuming toxic gender roles weren't pushed on us as young boys is kidding ourselves Even if that's true (it isn't), pushing toxic gender roles is not "patriarchy".
/r/MensRights24/09/22 04:36 AM
3

So writing a post in here, and getting advice from people is a start.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 05:03 AM
10

They wouldn't be groping randomly, but only the most attractive men.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 04:58 AM
14

it's a fucking fictional character So the next film could be about the mermaid getting old, and the character would be played by Danny deVito.
/r/MensRights23/09/22 04:54 AM
0

Of course, all governments are the same. Moron.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 12:06 PM
1

Nobody owes their life for anything, but the problem is that when everybody is free to leave, the country may fall to Russia, and then where are all these Ukrainians going to live? No other country owes them a place.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 04:31 AM
1

No, there are plenty of involuntary celibates who are not horrible misogynist
/r/MensRights22/09/22 03:40 AM
1

So when I say incel I mean horrible misogynist men Those are two different groups.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 03:29 AM
2

But the old meaning is still in there too, right ? You're not trying to make any distinction. You're taking the effort to only blame "horrible misandrist" women, but then you're picking the much broader group of "incels" out of all men. I assume that's with a purpose, when the much more straightforward "horrible misogynist men" was also available.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 04:17 PM
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It asks why this got worse in the last couple of decades, and the answers include "socialization of young boys", "men share their feeling less than women", "traditional gender norms" Are they claiming that modern men suffer more from traditional gender norms than they did in the '90s ?
/r/MensRights21/09/22 01:05 PM
15

So, if you found some area where men's rights are lacking, and you post about this on a feminist forum, you would expect to get support, upvotes and maybe even awards, right?
/r/MensRights21/09/22 10:45 AM
12

If you want, you can fairly quickly shag 700 dudes as well.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 07:28 AM
20

Just because someone can't get a relationship he's a pathetic little snowflake that deserves no empathy ?
/r/MensRights21/09/22 05:08 AM
1

On the other hand, there's a higher tolerance for women stripping completely naked in public than men.
/r/MensRights20/09/22 06:48 PM
1

Yes, if you're lecture room happens to have 1/3 free space, you can add more students without cost. But on average, you cannot assume that this is the case. Also, grading the work is often done manually, and internships require supervisors.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 12:58 PM
3

Even if you compensate with more doctors, it means that we now need to spend extra resources on education and training for the same result.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 11:50 AM
2

Block everybody you don't know.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 02:42 AM
5

Unless in the past it just happened by pure coincidence that all the best people for the job were white men It was not a pure coincidence, no, but it was also not a deliberate choice based on color and sex.
/r/MensRights08/09/22 02:55 AM
19

random dude chimes in ‘HEY ITS NOT ALL MEN’ If people wouldn't generalize in the first place, random dudes wouldn't have to say it.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 05:06 AM
1

It is both political as well as boring.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:30 AM
1

Hey, Elon gave you gold.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:28 AM
3

If you're a man, you call a flight attendant instead. Never wake a woman.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 03:49 AM
-2

How do you know she was making a false accusation ? Looks like there was simply no evidence for either case.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 03:47 AM
12

Why did they even have a trial, if there was no evidence ?
/r/MensRights06/09/22 03:45 AM
2

Getting dumped because you show emotions is also unhealthy.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 06:51 PM
0

that means fan theory about the MCU aren’t theories either. Ok. No problem.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 07:37 AM
3

Money is part of a good look, yes. A nice suit looks better than dirty jeans, because it implies money. A girl with wide hips and big breasts indicate better chances of childbearing and feeding, as well as being a sign of good health.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:31 PM
15

Men are also evaluated by their looks. It's not a gendered thing.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:34 PM
236

Anger is the only emotion that men can have without losing respect.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 11:43 AM
0

No need to be a smartass. You could get perks simply for the fact that the draft exists, and that you might get called up.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 10:58 AM
1

I agree they could cover other roles, but then there would still remain inequality that the men will do more heavy and dangerous work in the frontline, while the women sit in a bunker controlling drones or organizing logistics, or watching somebody else's children.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 08:21 AM
1

Men are just better fighters. It's biology. It would be nice to get some perks in return, though.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 06:48 AM
5

It doesn't quite work that way. Some people may care deeply about their country, and may be willing to fight if necessary, but prefer other people make the sacrifice for it. In order to stop men from running away, it makes sense for men to vote on a draft so that everybody suffers equally.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 06:45 AM
1

Mine stick to my leg on hot days You're not shaving them, are you ? I tried that once, and it made the skin terribly sticky. Never again.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 03:26 PM
2

My balls are smaller, closer to my body and they don't bang around like that. Most of the time I don't even notice them, even if I sit with my knees together.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:50 PM
4

The sociologists that write about this subject don’t use this false definition Maybe the sociologists should use the definition that's in the dictionary ? You're talking about gender stereotypes, not patriarchy.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:08 PM
6

Why is she putting on mascara ? Do her cats like that ?
/r/MensRights29/08/22 11:33 AM
2

google "dating bad boys"
/r/MensRights28/08/22 04:52 AM
2

womansplaining But nobody ever says that unironically.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 06:22 AM
2

Different example: you are drunk in a bar, find some biker dude, and call him a pussy, and challenge him for a fight. He punches you. Who's at fault here ?
/r/MensRights26/08/22 05:29 PM
1

So is that a yes or no ? Should we allow arbitrary levels of ambiguous body language and then dole out prison sentences for misunderstanding ? Also realize that none of this is recorded, so nobody knows exactly how uncomfortable the look was a few weeks later, during the trial.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 01:04 PM
2

So you agree with what I said above. In the hypothetical case that you do withdraw consent, it's your obligation to tell the other person.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:32 PM
1

If you exhibit traits that you no longer want to proceed like looking uncomfortable What if someone is not very good at reading body language, maybe because they're on the autism spectrum. Would it be fair to accuse them of rape because the victim never spoke up ?
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:31 PM
3

What if you're not incapacitated, but halfway the tattoo you decide you no longer want it, maybe because it hurts more than expected. Instead of saying "please stop", you are just silently watching the tattoo artist, and when they're finished, then you complain that they continued after you no longer wanted it.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:01 PM
2

Imagine you have just obtained informed consent 10 seconds ago, and then the other person silently withdraws it. Now it's rape.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 11:57 AM
1

Withdrawing consent should be possible, but the person who withdraws consent should be responsible for clearly communicating that to the people they are with.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 10:25 AM
15

It's bad for several reasons. The biggest one is that it's simply impossible to require asking for consent and getting a "yes" answer while at the same time allowing girls to withdraw their consent in silence. Boy: "do you want to have sex?" Girl: "yes" Boy inserts penis Girl feels uncomfortable, and no longer wants it, but doesn't say anything. Now it's rape.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 04:12 AM
10

What if she no longer consents, but is "too afraid" to push you away or say something ? If you don't ask, you're guilty.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 04:05 AM
41

He could try, but we all know nobody's going to believe that he just let it happen, or that the "froze in fear".
/r/MensRights25/08/22 06:35 PM
274

The whole deal with affirmative consent is just designed to get more false allegations. They can both be totally into having sex, but she regrets it the next morning, and can then claim he never asked for her verbal affirmative consent. Of course, everybody will conveniently ignore that she never asked for his consent either.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 05:13 PM
144

What is even the point of clearly spoken consent if there's no record of it ?
/r/MensRights25/08/22 05:02 PM
22

but "any engagement MUST begin with verbal consent" How do you ask for consent if you're not allowed to approach anyone ?
/r/MensRights25/08/22 01:43 PM
39

I enjoyed the first couple of seasons of GoT mostly because of its original content showing raw realism and good story telling. The last seasons have totally ruined everything, and I have lost all interest in anything related to it. Even if the production team wants to recreate the originality of those first seasons, I fully expect them to fuck it up, like they do with every other sequel/prequel/spin off.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 06:58 AM
11

What is your mom saying about all of this?
/r/MensRights25/08/22 05:03 AM
20

Most cases where someone jumps out of a bush is to rob people, not rape them, and this happens to men and women. Even women do that sometimes. https://www.fox5ny.com/news/3-bronx-women-robbed-men-of-their-clothes-at-knifepoint-nypd
/r/MensRights24/08/22 07:41 AM
101

I wouldn't even be so sure that it would be suddenly "safe to walk outside while listening to headphones". Without protection from men, other women may see a chance to rob you.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 05:21 AM
11

Is this because protecting and venerating women is hard-coded into male DNA For a large part, yes. It's also still hard-coded in female DNA to demand it.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 05:15 AM
3

Everything has changed. Men used to wear hats and suits for example, and long beach wear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgVl6Yk4itw There's not someone behind a desk coming up with the new trends, it's just the combined result of millions of different people with their own preferences.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 11:10 AM
10

Each man defines it for himself.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 11:00 AM
8

Men are not telling women what they should look like. Men are simply more attracted to pretty women. These women get more attention, and then they get a bigger group of men to pick from.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 10:57 AM
103

the person raping you is more privileged, has more power, terrifies the shit out of you, and can make your life harder. So.... women ?
/r/MensRights23/08/22 03:15 AM
6

Wrong, I hate astrology because I'm Aquarius.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 11:15 AM
7

Some people think that ALL Psychologists are smart. Ha, we all know that only Capricorn ascendants are smart.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 11:11 AM
6

I didn't express my opinion on the subject. I just said these are two different things. Your attempt to have a 'gotcha' moment failed.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 04:15 PM
8

Telling someone will regret not having kids is a totally different subject than telling them to have kids.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 03:46 PM
1

Plenty of women want children, not cats.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 06:11 AM
8

not able to accept a no whether given rude or not I have seen lots of moms grocery shopping with a little boy in tow, and then the boy will be throwing a tantrum because the mom wouldn't let him have candy/toy. After trying to say "no" for a dozen times, the mom will give in just to get some peace. I'm watching that, and I'm thinking: "congrats, now you have taught your boy not to take no for an answer".
/r/MensRights21/08/22 05:27 AM
1

Can they, and will they do the work ? Or will they fight about it, and fall back to a lower standard of living ? I don't think that question is settled.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 04:25 AM
63

There's nothing to worry about. Just give him a normal bath. As he gets older, tell him to gently pull the foreskin back and carefully wash underneath.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 05:35 PM
5

No one is legitimately wanting mandatory vasectomies Then she should pretend that's her opinion.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:41 PM
20

I want us to bring each other up, instead of focusing on negative agendas and here you are, posting a rant.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 07:55 AM
3

they only need a man for love and reproduction Right. You don't need a man to get water, when you can just open the tap and get it yourself. But you overlook the fact that you need men to build and maintain the water treatment and distribution system.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 05:55 AM
1

In a situation like the Titanic, if you do women (and children) first, the men will be more likely to cooperate with each other. If you do every equal, the men will start fighting for a spot, resulting in fewer people saved overall.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 05:43 AM
2

Men risk getting into a lot of trouble if they use excessive force, so many have learned to control their violence. I've seen many fights where a dude will throw one punch, and then step back to see if their opponent will retreat.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 06:09 PM
20

The trick is to become a president first. Children hate this trick!
/r/MensRights19/08/22 06:04 PM
243

She was suffering, she wrote, for the same reason that many of the men she met were suffering: Their assigned gender roles, she found, were suffocating them and alienating them from themselves. I thought her book was interesting and sometimes eye-opening, but I never agreed with this part. She was looking at the men's world with the emotions of a woman. That's harder than having grown up as a man and having your brain wired correctly to act and feel like a man. It's not the assigned gender roles…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 03:12 PM
9

Women face genital mutilation as well In plenty of countries in the world, it's only legal for men. And men dont HAVE to get circumcised. That's not helpful if your foreskin is already gone when you realize there was another option. thats a very small part of life nowadays. Go ask in Ukraine how small that is.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 03:02 PM
4

That's not how relationships work. You made vows or other agreements, and that means giving up unlimited freedoms. If that's unacceptable, I suggest breaking up.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 03:00 PM
9

Theres no right that a woman has that a man doesnt. Genital mutilation and forced military service.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 02:45 PM
2

I as a man just went and got a vasectomy 4 days ago It depends on where you live and what doctor you have and what age you are. Getting your spouse to formally agree isn't such a bad thing. If they agree, it's no big deal to put a signature on a paper. If they disagree, you have bigger problems.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 02:44 PM
5

Well, it's not "simply talking", it would be striking up a conversation with the goal to get sex, or at least it would be perceived that way.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 10:50 AM
40

No mentally healty and intelligent women would get mad at a man for approaching and striking up a conversation with her. You want to take bets on that ?
/r/MensRights19/08/22 07:49 AM
136

she always has to be the one to ask them if she wants to go on a date. Why is it okay for her to be harassing guys ?
/r/MensRights19/08/22 07:46 AM
35

I notice when my wife drives that she's very bad at anticipating. We'll be driving in the right hand lane, coming up on a truck in the distance, and she'll wait until we're right up close to the truck before looking for an empty slot to pass. When I'm driving I usually already have a plan where/when to start the overtake.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 10:53 AM
26

She saw her toddler son snatch a toy from his twin sister Gender issues aside, as a parent you shouldn't immediately jump to the rescue. Kids need to learn how to navigate these conflicts and solve their own problem. Only step in when it's getting out of hand, and focus on teaching how they can compromise with each other, not punishment (except for violence).
/r/MensRights17/08/22 07:41 AM
0

The men had no information to make a decision either way. But your example wasn't relevant in the context of our discussion, which is centered around the following statement: there are many cases where people weren’t aware that they were raping someone because they didn’t give explicit consent If someone forces another person to have sex with a knife on their throat, they are very much aware that they didn't get consent. They just don't care.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 07:20 AM
1

It's a silly question, because the normal rules of consent no longer apply under threat of a deadly weapon. Everybody knows this.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 05:32 AM
11

Big reveal : the real father of the child is the sales guy from Crown Paints.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:53 PM
13

Men cannot lie about the baby being theirs.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:43 PM
3

Yes, for most people it would kill the mood if you ask for every little step. Here's an experiment: ask a girl what her favorite romantic movie is. Now watch that movie, and see how many times the guy asked for consent. The answer is most likely zero.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:03 PM
3

I hope that's not a serious question.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 12:44 PM
5

If you have to ask for each little thing, yes, it is too much. People don't want to have their mood ruined by talking and asking the whole time. Besides, people could still claim to be "pressured" into answering "yes", and then later claim they didn't really want to do some things, but felt too unsafe to say no.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 12:40 PM
13

I had already given him a hundred second chances That's 99 too many. If you see someone is abusive, get out early before you're fully emotionally invested.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:47 AM
8

It's rape because someone has to strip you and insert the object against your will. Imagine the difference between someone stroking your hair, and the hood of your coat rubbing your hair. Even though it may feel the same, the first is much worse because it invokes the fear of being out of control of your own body.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:43 AM
8

A lot of people freeze up and can’t speak Then we should teach people to speak. That's the only reasonable solution to that problem. The answer is not to make the rules more and more unclear.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:27 AM
12

if you had the choice between getting raped by penetration or raped by having unwanted envelopment of your penis The bad part about rape is not the physical sensation, it's the forced intimacy. That's the same in both cases.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:24 AM
3

Women were the caregivers because they were the ones with the biggest stake in the baby's health, plus they physically provided the milk, and the pregnancy made it much harder to provide for themselves.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 11:37 AM
1

No, biology set up gender roles, and any patriarchal structure followed from that.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 11:35 AM
12

They attack her because she's moaning about her hard her life is, while belonging to the 0.1% people with the easiest life.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:32 AM
44

The men's games get more views because they are played at higher level. People want to see competition between the very best in the world, not a competition between players #200 and #201.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:29 AM
9

Still, someone trying to balance elite sports and parenting is in a much better position than a random person down the street who can't play elite sports and is trying to balance a low paying job with parenting.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:26 AM
11

What exactly is tough ? Playing tennis, raising a child, or making a choice between the two ?
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:09 AM
69

the men have to play the best of 5 sets; while the women only have to play the best of 3 sets A bigger difference is that the men have to play top level tennis, otherwise they get kicked out in the preliminary rounds.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:03 AM
11

Choosing to focus on career or family is a tough decision for many women Maybe she should ask her husband to make the choice for her, then.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:02 AM
430

Why is she blaming her personal situation on "expectations in society" ? If she wants to continue to play tennis, the father can stay home and take care of the child, or they can even hire a full time nanny. Are we supposed to believe that this arrangement would be impossible because society expects her to stay at home ? Really ?
/r/MensRights15/08/22 07:04 AM
10

I'll call her Marge in charge That doesn't sound like a smart plan. Your best bet is to learn to ignore. Nothing good comes from engaging her.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:32 AM
9

That's never going to work due to simple game theory. Even if you manage to convince 99% of men, the remaining 1% will be rewarded with large amounts of female attention.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 06:41 AM
4

They don't dominate computing though The problem is the assumption that in perfect world without discrimination, that men and women would make up 50% of each profession. The reality is that men and women have different interests and different skill levels, and we should expect to see gender differences in jobs.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:36 AM
1

He participated in the escalation. He had every opportunity to lower his voice, take a step back, and call for assistance. There was no need for him to keep shouting in her face.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:05 AM
3

No, that's not what I meant. I wanted to measure the bias of OP. If OP is unbiased, the number in the other groups should be higher. If OP claims there's less sexism in the feminist groups, we know they are just trolling here.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 12:49 PM
5

To measure the bias.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:41 AM
32

Using your same methodology, what percentage of posts in feminist subs are blatantly sexist?
/r/MensRights12/08/22 05:21 PM
2

it’s a statement that men can identify with whatever label they want That's not what the sign says.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 09:29 AM
4

Stoicism doesn't mean you can't pick your own path in life. You don't have to endure hardship if you can find a better option. It just means that when you do have a hard time on your chosen path that you don't get distracted by non-productive emotions.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 07:11 AM
4

He started shaming men for being men.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 05:55 AM
1

Until today I had never heard of Andrew Tate.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 07:12 PM
5

So somebody can change from "man" to "woman" simply by moving to a different social environment.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 05:46 PM
3

And even if some families have unequal division of labor, that's something that the people should figure out for themselves. If you're unhappy doing most of the work, talk about it, and fix it. If they're unwilling to move, then leave and find somebody better.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 08:50 AM
3

Both moms and dads have to provide for the family. What this cartoon does is expand the definition of "provide for" into many little bullet points where it concerns the woman, but doesn't expand it for men.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 05:33 AM
22

children from young age are not always taught respect boundaries Agreed, but that applies equally to girls and boys.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 02:26 PM
2

Dating preferences go back millions of years. Not in the exact same form, of course, but in one way or the other. Even female birds require the male to do funny dances, or build a good nest for them.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 09:49 AM
2

evolution doesn't "say" anything, evolution just happens, very very slowly over time Which means that this genetic drive to date up is still present, even in modern women with a good career.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:14 AM
6

It's also self enforcing, just like male birds with excessive colorful plumage. The female picks a male with bright colors, not just because she prefers it, but also because she wants to pass those genes on to her own male offspring, so they will be attractive to other females. This phenomenon even persists to the point where the unwieldy colorful displays are a detriment to the survival of the males. A peacock is an easy prey for a fox because of these big tail feathers. The female doesn't care…
/r/MensRights09/08/22 03:06 PM
1

Most jobs are paid by market supply and demand.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 05:13 AM
2

Where I live, doctors and dentists are mostly female now.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 05:12 AM
1

Reading the source would have been a good place to start.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 04:29 AM
-13

Please, get a grip on yourself.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 04:24 AM
2

Your pathetic attempt isn't working.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 02:56 PM
8

I guarantee that "being drafted" isn't in your top 100 things you're actually worried about. In that case, there's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't apply the draft to women.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 05:14 AM
9

Can you definitely rule out another Vietnam-style war?
/r/MensRights08/08/22 05:12 AM
12

Affirmative action will still only be available for women, even if they outnumber the men.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 03:30 PM
3

It's the genes that make us care about passing them on. which would be diluted within a few generations. Not diluted, but rearranged together with other gene successful gene combinations.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 05:56 AM
3

If you're getting to enjoy the results of your labor, it's not unpaid.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:47 AM
1

She should play at such a high level that an NBA team will hire her.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:01 AM
2

Just like everybody else playing for the NBA.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 04:22 AM
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If she's not good enough to play in the NBA, then she doesn't deserve that level of pay. Most people aren't, and that's okay.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:57 PM
2

Doesn't matter if they were false for this particular case.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 08:39 AM
335

If she wants NBA income, she should play in the NBA. Problem solved.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:02 AM
5

Revoking consent is possible of course, but should be done in a clear way, and only applies to whatever happens afterwards. You can't revoke consent the next morning when you wake up. If somebody honestly misunderstands what you mean by "no", say it again, but more forcefully. It's not that hard.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 03:37 AM
4

Women should get training how they should not falsely accuse men of rape.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 03:31 AM
2

You're hung up on the words without actually looking at how people lived their lives. You look at the modern world with all its comforts and safety nets, and you figure that it would be great to do whatever you want. The reason that it's great is because there's very little consequences of making mistakes. Somebody, left or right, will bail you out of trouble. If you're a single mom, the government will give you money, or force the dad to pay up. In the old times, if you weren't able to take car…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:14 PM
3

Lol no argument.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 03:54 PM
2

Society's beauty standards are horrible for both men and women You'll never convince people that they should not care about other people's beauty. It's a waste of energy.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:49 PM
7

You didn't answer the question.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:11 PM
6

But what does that mean, concretely?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:08 PM
13

they need you and me. To do what? Invade their country and dictate our moral standards?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:06 PM
18

Can't blame the victim for screwed up police response.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:04 PM
1

From the other side it sounds glorious to exist freely knowing that nobody is watching for me It's great if you want to live alone and don't fancy having children.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 08:58 AM
5

this is at the age where “merit” isn’t even developed My merit started when I was even younger. I would ask my parents for old broken electronics equipment, and then I would take it apart and look at what was inside. We would even take bike rides around the neighborhood on garbage days, and look for old radios to take home. I would get a hammer and nails, and then "mount" the parts on scrap wood, and then pretend to "build" stuff. Nowadays, it's even easier to get started. There's free informati…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:16 AM
3

Then we should identify and fix the root cause of that discrimination, not try to compensate through the back door with programs that are fundamentally discriminating against men.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:05 AM
4

It can mean different things, including quota, preferential hiring, women-only scholarships, etc.. For instance, we have "women in STEM" programs at schools, but why not change that into "kids in STEM", and invite boys and girls alike? As soon as you create a program just for girls, it means that the budget no longer goes to talented young boys who would also want a chance for a good career in a STEM field.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 07:00 AM
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The disagreement is about affirmative action programs that prefer to hire women over men, just because of their sex, and not because of qualifications. Just because a certain field is dominated by 90% men does not mean that there's discrimination, or that there is a problem that needs to be fixed. It could simply be that there are much fewer women interested in pursuing this field, which is fine. Of course, it is possible that there is genuine discrimination in some fields, in which case we shou…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:50 AM
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If they are better qualified, then we don't need affirmative action programs. Y’all still crying “the women are taking our jobs” No, because if they were hired on merit, they would be helping to create more jobs because they would help to grow the company, or maybe even start their own.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:43 AM
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In the past, life was harder for everyone, not just women. The "oppression" of women came with privileges for women. For each woman who was not allowed to work, there was a man with a duty to protect and take care of her, and if that required doing dirty or dangerous jobs, he would have to do that.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:37 AM
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Women and men tend to have different strengths, so what? It's very popular in the woke crowd to deny that there are biological differences, that everybody is born as a blank slate, and we are just programmed by our social environment. That viewpoint causes a lot of trouble, because it can only explain differences in outcomes as a function of systemic inequality in the environment.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:26 AM
7

hiring a female is not putting any man at a disadvantage. It is when the man was better qualified than her.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:19 AM
15

I did 20 bike arounds of my city’s center, counting mask wearers and non-mask wearers There was never any point to wearing masks outside in open air.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:28 PM
3

I picture you ignoring the argument and going for a cheap personal attack.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:37 AM
16

It really isn’t that hard to get laid if you make an effort and are attractive. Fixed that for you.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:03 PM
6

easy to find https://www.topresume.com/career-advice/top-10-professions-dominated-by-women
/r/MensRights02/08/22 10:21 AM
1

Also, it is genetically advantageous for a woman to live with a dependable but boring man, while getting impregnated by the bad boy down the street.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 05:04 AM
7

If she generalizes a problem to "all men", she deserves to have her emotions invalidated.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 03:49 AM
3

No, that's not fixing the root cause. That's just adding racism in an attempt to change the results.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 11:32 AM
8

Asian-Americans can more often pass as white Depends. Some Asians, like those from India, are dark skinned, and still quite successful as a group.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:26 AM
8

First of all, the individual experience is what matters here. The bad part of racism is exactly that individuals get judged not based on their merit, but based on group identity. Secondly, just because white people overall hold more power is not a sign of racism. Asian Americans are much more successful than African Americans, and that's clearly not due to racism.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:11 AM
15

Most ivy league colleges are still prominently white male You mean white female.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:04 AM
14

If there's racism that prevents black people from getting chosen on merit, then point out where that racism is, and try to fix it.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:59 AM
2

you can’t be both a tyrant and an anarchist In practice, anarchism will lead straight to tyranny, because there's no mechanism to prevent it.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:22 AM
8

If your original post was about comparing men and women, you should not just look at women working in sweatshops. The men who are not working in sweatshops, what are they doing? Sitting at home with a beer?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:16 AM
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woman as a class make less than men as a class Yes, they do. But it's not clear that there's an underlying problem that needs to be solved. social pressure claiming women are better for domestic work Not just social pressure, but also a direct consequence of having the care taking role for babies and infants making it more logical that women who are already staying at home do the domestic work while they are there. from beliefs like “girls bad at math” “girls don’t play video games” Those aren't…
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:56 AM
12

The least you could do is summarize the report in a few paragraphs so that people know whether it's even worth spending a few hours on.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:04 AM
17

What do men get in return for "protecting women" ?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 07:11 AM
3

In a perfect world there would be no labels and people would be free from gender binary forced on them Why is that perfect? they could do sexual activity with whoever Not if they want to have babies.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 05:13 AM
2

So a transgender man was always a man What does that mean? How do you define "man" ?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 05:08 AM
14

do you accept this man into your movement? Men's rights is not a movement. There's no membership, and there are no gatekeepers.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 05:05 AM
1

at 55:20 minute Pass. People ranting for an hour is never good.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 04:27 AM
10

yeah, they don't have perfect hair and skin being in the water all the time.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 02:57 PM
3

the more we will do Why would people choose to do more than is required? It goes against our nature. I see people waiting in line for the escalator down, instead of taking the wide open stairs right next to it. People are lazy, and they get even more lazy when they see they are working harder than the next guy.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:46 AM
2

We need both. We need some fairness so that people don't get desperate. We need some selfishness as incentive to do useful stuff.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:19 AM
3

No, left wing goes against people's selfish nature, so it needs more authority.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:12 AM
3

Historically yes, but what are they being told now?
/r/MensRights29/07/22 04:34 AM
4

They're at the bottom 80% of attractiveness.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 04:20 AM
4

Invisible.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 03:47 AM
17

and if she's not sure which man did it, we'll just arrest the lot.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 03:45 AM
9

If men had the babies they would be called "women"
/r/MensRights28/07/22 03:56 PM
11

You're right, and why were they being raised by women? Where were the men? At work.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:38 AM
5

A man who does the laundry and other housework isn't nearly as attractive as the man with a good job and his own house. Even for the non-traditional women.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:37 AM
2

If the man earns more, but uses his money to pay the rent, that money is gone. In return for his labor, the whole family gets a place to live. If the wife then cleans the house, in return for her labor, the whole family gets a clean place to live. The fact that one of these transactions had an intermediate step in the form of money is completely irrelevant. Both are doing work, and in the end, they both get to share the fruits of their labor with each other and the children. It's only unfair if …
/r/MensRights27/07/22 08:30 AM
1

It doesn't have to pay the bills if somebody else already takes care of that.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 04:34 AM
2

You get the enjoy the results of your work, so you are getting paid, just not in cash.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 05:31 PM
1

Genes are responsible for about 60%-70%, upbringing for the rest.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 03:03 PM
0

Overall, men are probably a bit more aggressive, and overconfident, but women are more easily distracted and more hesitant. When you hesitate too much, another car could cause an accident because you're sending the wrong signals.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 12:06 PM
2

You want capable people. And this is getting only more true with the advance of modern weaponry. We need more trained experts, and fewer bodies.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 08:43 AM
3

"Fixing the problem" means that you directly engage with the person who's doing the "mansplaining" and make them stop, not crying about it in a video that the same guy isn't going to watch.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 08:33 AM
25

Go post an article on TwoX titled "I am done with men", and then count your awards and upvotes.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 08:06 AM
8

It literally is bare minimum to look out for each other You mean "it is bare minimum for a man to look out for a woman". Because it's never ever the other way around.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 07:02 AM
2

upbringing and education are the main factors. No, the genes are the biggest determining factor, as shown by studies on twins.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:11 AM
7

Here's an example. 3 year old boy working as a chimney sweep, sacrificing his health, and maybe even his life to help provide for his family. https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/u5q3a8/footage_of_a_3_year_old_chimney_sweep_from_the/
/r/MensRights25/07/22 05:18 AM
14

discrimination against men has only started to mostly show in this last decades. That's not because it didn't happen, but because nobody cared.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 05:15 AM
3

It happens more to women than to men, therefore they make these videos No, women are just more prone to cry for help instead of fixing the problem themselves.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:34 AM
5

homeless people set up shop in public restrooms If homelessness was a female problem, it would have been solved already
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:30 AM
3

I’d rather not have to be rude and interrupt someone Interrupt with "yes, yes, yes" and some nodding. That's not rude.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:28 AM
1

Much simpler is to quickly interrupt the person explaining something, acknowledge you understand in a friendly manner, and add something smart to prove that you know what you're talking about. They will usually quickly pick up on your level of expertise, without causing friction.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:25 AM
3

"Shell is evil for selling us the petroleum products we need to go to the beach"
/r/MensRights25/07/22 03:55 AM
5

Is it women? I doubt it. It is women who spend more resources for useless stuff. New clothes and purses, bigger houses, bigger cars, another new kitchen or shiny bathroom. A man can be happy with an old sofa and a beer.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 03:54 AM
7

The "patriarchy" is such an elusive concept that you have to reach out to professors just to understand what it means? How many feminists have done that?
/r/MensRights25/07/22 03:50 AM
4

If you can't afford kids, you shouldn't have them.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:03 PM
3

Maternity leave is fine, but it's not fair to let the employer pay for it.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 08:31 AM
10

Instead of paying taxes, I would rather pay the mother of my children directly.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 08:26 AM
2

Some men refuse to wear them, or will stealthily remove them during sex Pick different men to have sex with.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 03:55 AM
5

Condoms break pretty frequently and men can whip them off in a second. They can have holes in them from manufacturing. I've used them all my life, and not a single one broke during use. I've torn one putting it on, but that's easily replaced. They're also the best defense against STDs, which is probably a good idea if you're having sex with men you can't trust.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 03:52 AM
11

rhythm method That's thrusting on the beat of Staying Alive, right ?
/r/MensRights24/07/22 03:45 AM
5

Why not educate all your children equally?
/r/MensRights23/07/22 03:54 AM
5

If the majority is against, they should vote for people who are against. You can be a woman and vote for a male or female candidate who is against the draft. Any female voter has the same power as a male voter. The gender of the politician is not relevant, just their policies.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 07:18 PM
14

Even within a relatively small category like lawyers you have large difference in pay, depending on what they specialize in, and how good they are at their jobs.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 05:01 AM
1

Can you give specific examples of what you said?
/r/MensRights21/07/22 04:51 AM
2

No, the programs exist because people don't look at rights, they look at outcomes. They see fewer women in STEM or politics, and they take that as a sign that there's some hidden barrier stopping women. In reality, women are just less interested in choosing such careers, either because the subject doesn't appeal to them, or they don't want to dedicate their entire life to pursuing it.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:24 PM
4

men are disproportionately hired for higher paying jobs When I was a young boy, around 15 years old, I spent many weekends playing with electronics and computers to the point that I was losing weight because I simply forgot to eat from all the excitement. Now I'm getting hired to design electronics and write software, not because I'm a man, but because I'm very good at what I'm doing. How many 15 year old girls would be interested in doing that kind of nerdy stuff in their free time?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:19 PM
4

100% equal rights would benefit men more at this point. It means the end of all the special women's programs.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:11 PM
6

devaluation of traditionally feminine jobs Feminine jobs are not devalued, but women have a higher preference for working with people, and people-oriented jobs don't scale well. any guaranteed pay from the US government. Governments just redistribute money, so that pay would be coming from male net tax payers.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:09 PM
3

The reason people prefer to watch male competition because it's done at higher levels.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:06 PM
4

Instead of using words like "toxic masculinity/femininity" about traditional gender roles like splitting the bill, we can just say "traditional gender roles", because these roles are often upheld by both genders, and often applied to both genders. we don't compare just empathize and support The word "equality" means you have to compare. We have special programs for women in STEM, because feminists compared the number of men & women, and demanded these special programs. When men ask for help in b…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:13 AM
5

This standards that force men to act in certain ways is what feminist call toxic masculinity [...] I had to get rid of so much toxic masculinity So what is it? Toxic masculinity is either a set of standards imposed by society, or it is something that you can get rid of in yourself. It can't be both. We don't want to argue Too bad. You can't just declare truth by fiat and expect people to follow you uncritically.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:59 AM
13

In situations like this, you will never convince the other person, but it's often an opportunity to refine your own arguments for yourself, which is useful.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:19 PM
5

What has being "terrified" got to do with anything? You said you don't want anybody touching you without permission if they want to grab your attention, and they should talk instead. The question is simply whether "talk instead" is indeed always a valid option. The answer is a simple "yes, it's always allowed to approach someone by talking", or "no, sometimes talking is not allowed". If talking is only allowed in certain situations, and you have to "read the room" first, then people could also "…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:59 PM
1

What women don't want is to be to constantly annoyed by people who think they owe them their time. The problem is that if 20 different people try to start a conversation on a day, that counts as "constantly annoyed", even though each guy only tried once.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:29 PM
3

The murder of Sarah Everard was just one woman, but it led to national debates, candlelight vigils by thousands and increased irrational fear of men.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:47 AM
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When you put an obese model on the cover of a glossy magazine, it's a message that obesity is beautiful and okay.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 08:23 AM
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Our brains are wired for general cases. In the history of mankind, most men & women wanted children. In the last century this has been changing a bit, but our brains are still mostly wired the same.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:42 AM
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You ignored the second bit. Can we safely assume it's okay to talk to strangers if we want to get their attention?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:39 AM
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Women want/need to be taken care of, because it's very hard to take care of yourself when you're pregnant or caring for a child, especially when the child is still small and fairly helpless.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:35 AM
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Women were oppressed for a lot of human history, which would explain that. No, there are more male geniuses because a man's value is judged by how well he can provide for a woman.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:19 AM
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who gets to decide if something is “intimate”? Social norms. Isn’t it just easier to talk to someone So it's okay to start talking to strangers? Isn't it just better to assume people don't want to be approached at all? Who gets to decide when it's okay to talk to someone?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:12 AM
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Obviously, if there are better ways to grab someone's attention, you do that first. They might be in a conversation without other people. Do you find it socially acceptable to interrupt them in the middle of a conversation to tell them something? Is it even socially acceptable to start talking to strangers without their permission?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:38 AM
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Touching someone's hair is a much more intimate gesture than tapping someone on the shoulder or elbow to get their attention. You can't equate the two without devaluing the first.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:30 AM
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I've tapped strangers on their shoulder in the train, for instance, if they've dropped their train pass, or their bag is open. Half the time, people on the train are wearing headsets, and there's too many other people around, making words not very effective to figure out who's being addressed. But OP wasn't talking about strangers.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:51 AM
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That's something completely different.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:48 AM
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Also: don't be too attractive.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:47 AM
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The 0.01% of men that are in positions of power did not get there because of special privileges (i.e. "patriarchy"), but because of their ruthless dedication and motivation to be successful, plus a bunch of luck. 99.99% of men and 99.997% of women do not possess the necessary motivation and qualifications to make it to the top. Of course, when you look at the bottom layer of the pyramid, you see mostly men doing all the shitty jobs, more male work related deaths, more male war victims, more male…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 02:41 PM
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Only boys are doing things wrong, and girls are naturally perfect?
/r/MensRights18/07/22 11:19 AM
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teach kids about toxic traits? You missed the point, probably on purpose. It's perfectly fine to teach kids about toxic traits. It's not fine to single out boys and talk about toxic masculinity. Edit: nice job editing your post.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 05:11 AM
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Not sure why they assume stuff like this only happens to right wing people.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 03:24 AM
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this entire sub does that all the time If people constantly confuse the term, it means it's not a good term. Especially when used in front of young boys. some parts of masculinity is toxic Which parts are toxic, and which parts are good?
/r/MensRights18/07/22 03:07 AM
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Why are you perpetuating this obviously harmful standard Because that's reality. Best to prepare young men for the ugly truth. If you want to improve things, you'd have to change society first, instead of teaching men to be vulnerable and opening up for abuse. men shouldn’t be involved in the family / children because that’s an emotional endeavour I never said that. Men have an important role in raising the children. It doesn't require getting all emotional, though.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:54 PM
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men are taught to chase success from birth and tie that to their sense of value is what's CAUSING most of men's problems today? And do you know WHY men are chasing success from birth? It's because women select the best. In the history of humanity, but also in animals, most males die without producing offspring. It's a constant competition to be in the top group that manages to get a mate. If you're not attractive,not successful, or too short, women will mercilessly mock you. Call you a pathetic …
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:21 PM
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In those situations crying doesn't solve your problems. No Then what's the fucking point of showing your weakness to society, if that society doesn't care about you? You think they ALL are the soul providers for their family and are failing to do so? No, I gave two quick examples, not an exhaustive list of all problems that men face in their lives. There are hundreds if not thousands of other problems. Implying that mental health isn't a " real" issue I'm not saying it's not a real issue. I'm sa…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:52 AM
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The mental health crisis is largely due to real problems that men are facing which they don't know how to solve. If you're having problems, say a custody battle or you can't make enough money to feed your family, how does crying help? What you're doing is applying feminine standards and solutions to male problems. That doesn't work. If you teach young boys to show their emotions, without changing society to show empathy to these boys, it will only make their life worse.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:38 AM
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we're talking about men As feminists like to stress, "toxic masculinity" refers to societal expectations of gender roles. Half of that society is women, and they are pushing the hardest for these male gender expectations.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:14 AM
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This is what it feels like for men and boys. If you truly want to help men, you'd push for a better, and gender neutral, term such as "toxic gender expectations", and spend equal time on educating girls and boys. ETA: Even then, you'd have to show that some of these gender expectations are truly toxic. A common one is the idea that "boys don't cry". Is that toxic? Or is it just a smart way for boys to navigate the world where showing emotions gets them mocked and discarded?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:01 AM
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toxic masculinity is one of the factors that sets men back the most in society. No. Masculinity is just a set of behaviors associated with men. These behaviors have evolved over time to give men the best chance of survival and creating offspring. Even behaviors called toxic, like aggression, violence, stoicism, competitiveness, self sacrifice all have a purpose in the life of a man. Feminists think that if only boys behaved more like girls, their problems would be solved. In reality, their probl…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:57 AM
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Shouldn't "toxic waste" mean that societal expectations of waste is toxic, if we follow the same logic you've used for masculinity? See how the term is confusing?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:00 AM
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Warning boys about societal expectations is a good thing, but only if it's done in the correct way. In most cases, that means that the explanation is done by the boy's father older brothers, and other male role models. A good father will tell a boy that he shouldn't cry, because the father knows that crying will make 99% of men's problems worse, not better.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:16 AM
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It's not just about sex, it's about relationships.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:44 AM
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Why aren't more people mad about this? I use an ad blocker.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:31 AM
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feminists don't want to make it a gender neutral term as that would be them accepting / admitting that women also suffer from the same toxic norms It would also mean they have to admit being part of society that enforces those gender roles.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:29 AM
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the phrase toxic masculinity isn't saying men are toxic. Apparently you don't understand the grammar rule of putting an adjective in front of a noun. The society definition of masculinity (working to the point that you hurt yourself) is what's toxic. Not the men. Masculinity is a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles associated with men and boys. So when you're saying "toxic masculinity", then you're talking about male behaviors, not societal expectations. If you want to make it clear you're t…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:27 AM
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The problem is that the word "toxic" is an adjective for "masculinity". Nothing in the expression "toxic masculinity" suggests it is about societal pressure, and indeed, many people use the term to complain about men. Even the Oxford dictionary uses the words "associated with", so it's not just about societal expectations. When young boys hear someone say "toxic masculinity", they will assume it's something they are doing wrong, not society. Obviously, if society is asking the wrong things of bo…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:20 AM
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Getting the facts straight is helpful.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:37 PM
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Of course, this guy judges the entire group of mgtow on its most vocal and extreme members, such as some people ranting on youtube videos. He's not talking about the large group of men who are just silently going their own way, because he doesn't know who they are and what they do.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 02:51 PM
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Go ask in /r/askfeminists what they think about equal rights in family courts, domestic abuse, male circumcision, draft, false allegations, and so on. You'll be lucky if you don't get banned.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 02:46 PM
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You could do it the other way. Take texts written by Hitler and replace Jews with men, and then publish them on feminist forums for sweet karma.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 01:05 PM
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It's very easy to get fired if you do that.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 12:32 PM
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That's exactly why they want to ban this subreddit and its members. Not because it's incel misogynist, but because people here raise too many valid points that would undermine their power.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:25 AM
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If the symptoms are really debilitating, that's what sick leave is for. I think those a fairly rare, though. I've never noticed women where I work to be regularly absent for this reason. If it's a matter of mild discomfort, an option could be to have a day off in return for working an extra day at a later time.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:35 AM
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Breathing inert gas like nitrogen.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:31 AM
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I thought FTM men were considered part of the fold here. Your rhetoric indicates otherwise If we support equality for everyone, then FTM men are not excluded. Not even cis women are excluded. The distinction between sex and gender isn't worth the big argument.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:26 AM
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They don't mean sorry as an apology for admitted wrongdoing. Women do say sorry more as a way to sound more agreeable, like "sorry for asking, but ...." They know they are not really doing anything wrong, but are just not confident enough to ask straight.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:28 AM
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I don't think there's been a slide to the right, but people have become more polarized.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:22 AM
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The rationale is that the person who brings in the money and acts like the provider must have the power to allocate and plan the resources in a way to make sure that these resources are also available in the future. Because there is no woman that would be a better breadwinner It's harder to be the breadwinner if you have to interrupt your career every time you get pregnant and lose your only source of income. Also, traditionally, there weren't many well paying jobs that didn't involve a lot of p…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 05:00 PM
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What does that mean in practice?
/r/MensRights15/07/22 03:24 PM
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Men who feel this is the ONLY way it should be are misogynistic, full stop Not even then. You can have the opinion that this traditional arrangement benefits everybody involved, and that the provider role by the male is done out of love and care, not hatred. it is anti ENFORCED traditional roles. But that's not happening.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 03:21 PM
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Of course. But power and control don't equal misogyny.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 02:33 PM
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1% is close enough to zero that it's statistically insignificant. There are too many factors that cannot be controlled with enough precision. Two people could be doing the same job, even in the same team, working same hours behind identical desks, and one of them could be 10 times more productive than the other, without getting accounted for in the research. If that person then gets paid 10% more, it would seem like an unfair advantage.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 03:25 AM
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I've known too many adults that had to get it done I've spent years in statistical data analysis and that 'I've known too many' is a huge indication that the data doesn't support the answer they want
/r/MensRights15/07/22 03:13 AM
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men should be the breadwinner How is that misogyny? Men don't pay the rent, clothes and food because they hate women.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:17 PM
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What kind of root problems do we all have? Don't say "patriarchy".
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:01 PM
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Yes, and there's also another group of men who are genuinely nice, but put the girl on a pedestal and want to treat her like a queen. These men can appear desperate, clingy and spineless. Women are generally not attracted to that kind of personality. Over time, when faced with disappointing results in dating, these men can turn bitter and even abusive as you described. It's okay to be nice and considerate, but never ignore your own desires and don't let people step over your boundaries. Treat pe…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 02:32 PM
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people upvote comments calling women objects 10 upvotes out of 333k members. Is that "rampant misogyny" ?
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:28 PM
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Total cost of living possibly, if you include nice clothes & shoes, accessories, beauty products and nails & hair. I wouldn't count those, because they're voluntary.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 08:22 AM
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In 1972, just prior to Title IX, women held 90% of the head coaching positions for women’s college teams and Now, according to the 2021 report from The Institute For Diversity And Ethics In Sport (TIDES) women hold a mere 41.1% of all coaching positions That's an improvement, right? We're much closer to 50% now. Suddenly, with higher pay on the table, men were interested in these coaching jobs previously held by women. The higher pay is also offered to women coaches. Like so many laws aimed at h…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 05:55 AM
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Democracy won't work if not everybody has the same dress code.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 04:01 AM
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They're getting paid to provide entertainment, so the players who get more people to watch them and pay tickets should get more money. That's why female pornstars get paid more than men.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:55 PM
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I'll let you know I'm doing my part by not having sex with the Supreme Court justices.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:14 PM
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They want to abolish women's prize money. If they want to be equal with men, they should play the men.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:01 PM
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Shouldn't have married that cute kindergarten teacher.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 05:44 PM
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Men require more food, which easily costs more than hygiene products.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 05:38 PM
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It's harassment if it didn't happen at work. It's not the employer's business to police what their employees do in their spare time.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 05:15 PM
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It makes sense if he's sure he never wants kids, not because of RvW.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 04:18 PM
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"we've already established what you are, we are now haggling over the price"
/r/MensRights13/07/22 12:56 PM
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Avoiding other available machines and picking one right next to somebody else is weird and creepy, for any combination of genders.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 12:41 PM
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Small differences could be explained by men negotiating harder, or asking for a pay raise after doing a good job.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 12:27 PM
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Try short men and tall men.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 12:25 PM
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being born a woman makes it harder for you to earn as much money as being a man Unless, of course, you have a career on OnlyFans.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 12:24 PM
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Open up to emotions and share your hearts. Silence is not maniless. Why?
/r/MensRights13/07/22 10:15 AM
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I don't think it's smart to blindly trust people you meet, no matter what gender. You don't have to be paranoid or rude, but it's wise to be careful. For example, I wouldn't go on a first date where I'm paying for an expensive dinner, and then risk getting rejected after the bill has been paid. No trust, no stake.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 10:08 AM
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Let's start by defining the terms. What exactly do you mean by "patriarchy", and in what form does it currently exist in Western countries?
/r/MensRights13/07/22 09:15 AM
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Men naturally show less emotions than women. Why is that toxic? Is there any particular reason why the female level of emotion would be the leading norm? If men showed more emotions, would that improve their lives? Why?
/r/MensRights13/07/22 09:14 AM
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I don't think he's too cautious, because there are plenty of gold diggers out there. He could have been a lot more tactful about it. Bluntly refusing to tell his job makes him look needlessly confrontational, which is not attractive. There are much better ways to find out if your date just wants your money. For example, instead of going on a dinner, he could suggest a walk in the park, feed the ducks, and maybe share a sandwich at a picnic table. If things are going well, it could always be exte…
/r/MensRights13/07/22 05:45 AM
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That's the whole point, right? I began to wonder if he even had a job or if I was going to be left paying for our entire meal! She was afraid she would have to provide for him. She may not have been fishing for a rich guy, but she still wants to avoid a poor one who could make a great house husband.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 04:23 AM
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Maybe he has a job where somebody would immediately know the ballpark salary he gets. he’s suggesting that I’m a gold digger which is very insulting No, he would be suggesting that some women are gold diggers, and he doesn't know you well enough to determine. Both are factually true. But I agree he could have handled it better. If he has a poor job, just tell her, and if she's a gold digger, she'll end it. If he's got a good job, and she's a gold digger, that will become obvious soon enough.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 03:41 AM
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Basically calling me a gold digger to my face No he didn't. He just didn't want to take the chance. Imagine you have a bowl of M&M's, and 3 of them are poisoned. Would you take one?
/r/MensRights13/07/22 03:29 AM
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I'm perfectly capable of having long term relationships and I'm super excited to hopefully be starting a new one this weekend I also like to start all my long term relationships in the weekend.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:43 PM
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It's easier for a woman to get a position as bank manager than a man, but only if she's reasonably qualified for the job. So, if you ask a woman whether she would be interested in getting an appropriate college degree to get the qualifications for a bank manager, or if she just wants to go ahead and clean stuff, there's a good chance she'll pick the latter.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 11:17 AM
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You misspelled ex-girlfriend.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:37 AM
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I can pretty much guarantee that all top desirable men on dating apps will end up on the list. I can also guarantee that plenty of women will be extra attracted to verified bad boys (tm).
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:33 AM
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lack of equal representation on C-suite and Board level roles Men and women are different. They have different goals in life, and different talents to achieve those goals. The question is why would you expect equal representation in board level roles, when there's no equal representation in many other jobs? For instance, many small startups are created and led by men. Why don't you start at the bottom, and urge women to take more risks and start their own small business? Successful CEOs of small…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:29 AM
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People are free to say "I offer proper skills to teach a child. My rates are higher than some half-ass babysitter", and try to sell their expert services. Maybe somebody can set up a special agency for skilled childcare with appropriate quality control measure to guarantee customers they are getting what they are paying for.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:51 AM
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Which comment specifically should I look at? It's a very low effort post to send people to a list of 169 comments, and claim "there are some bad ones in there", especially since we already know that this happens all the time. You may be right about the 'blatant true purpose', but it's bad debating to attack people on arguments they never made explicitly. They can simply deny, and make you look like a fool.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:36 AM
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Equal pay is about making sure that stereotypically woman work gets paid similarly to stereotypically man work That's not going to happen. Work is valued by supply & demand on the market. Somebody designing a software system to make hotel bookings on-line is more valuable than someone answering the phone and doing it all by hand.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:33 AM
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But they're not saying that. The statistics merely point out that men, on average, are more violent than women. This makes sense from an evolutionary biology standpoint, as the males have to compete with each other to be chosen by the female. Of course, as soon as you turn that into a curfew for men, it enters the domain of misandry and sexism. But let's judge people for what they're doing and saying, and not for the hidden agenda that you think there is.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:18 AM
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why can’t it be the woman who gets that responsibility Because men were bringing in the money. Their job and responsibility was to provide for their wife (and children). If you take that (big) responsibility, it requires a large level of control. If the woman wants to splurge a bunch of money on frivolous stuff today, but that wouldn't leave enough for rent next month, somebody needs to say "no". That doesn't mean the man is "above" the woman. The privilege checklist is funny. "I do not get to m…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:54 AM
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How much income does he have anyway?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:32 PM
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Or, if somebody starts explaining something you already know, just stop them, tell you already know x,y,z, and ask about a,b,c. Problem solved.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 09:40 AM
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Instead of making men responsible for giving up sex, why not just tell women to keep their legs together?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:28 AM
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Updated article with more information. https://nypost.com/2022/07/10/person-of-interest-15-in-custody-over-fatal-nyc-stabbing/
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:00 AM
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There are not enough "good feminists" to make a difference. If there were, they could start a subreddit /r/TrueFeminism, with fair moderation.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:52 AM
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Every cult has a strict policy of shunning outsider viewpoints. Cult members who are exposed to outside views might leave the cult, diminishing its power. That's why they must have censorship.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:48 AM
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No, it's a bad idea. The list will be completely unreliable, because too many girls will be adding fake accusations if something didn't work out. The most desirable guys on these apps will get a bunch of bad reviews, simply because they go on frequent dates. But the girls will never want to stop dating them. Bad boys are attractive and exciting.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:36 AM
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It's never going to work, because there's no consequence for ignoring the criteria. The list will be unreliable, because too many girls will add fake accusations. All the hot popular guys will end up on the list, and then what?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:31 AM
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Individual human should be their own entity regardless of gender That doesn't work in a marriage where all the income is marital property. People are no longer their own entity. it’s like treating women as children which isn’t any privilege Children certainly have privileges. If they need anything, the parents provide it. If they get sick, their parents make them better. If they do something dumb and get into trouble, their parents fix it for them.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:31 AM
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the woman loses rights She loses the right to go into debt, because she gained the privilege of not being responsible for debt. Rights and responsibilities must match, otherwise you open yourself for abuse.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:35 PM
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Not just allowing it to exist, it's actually promoted in the top bar.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:51 PM
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If the genders were reversed I still wouldn't accept a one-sided story on face value.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:18 PM
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Most reports of this particular story don't even mention 'girls' in the headline. A bunch don't even mention girls in the text.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:09 PM
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Source?
/r/MensRights10/07/22 02:44 PM
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I wouldn't trust anybody in AITA to post the full truth.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 02:03 PM
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What is even the target audience of this ad, and what do they think to achieve with that target audience?
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:01 AM
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But if men don't want to hear negative comments about their bodies, you call those men "weak and sad" ?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 09:13 PM
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Nothing really. She said she would be happy to die alone. She doesn't need a man. She's getting a good job, and will take care of herself. It's a beautiful time to be alive.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 09:08 PM
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Women have also made fun of men's bodies for ever. This is not a new thing. The problem is the double standards you're showing.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 07:27 PM
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My guess is that the woman there is not complaining because she's still young and attractive, getting attention from men, and is not thinking about building a family and having children. When she's getting older, she may very well change her mind about wanting those things. Does she truly desire a life where she's alone at 30 or 40, and getting ignored by men who are all looking for younger women, while her female friends are getting married?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 07:17 PM
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Your facetious reply doesn't meet my standards for good conversation.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 07:08 PM
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No, working together with other people on men's rights, even if they have a different political conviction does not make one a libertarian. You can promote men's rights and be comfortable with a state that interferes in individual liberties.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:58 PM
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Having standards is not a problem. Having unreasonable standards and then complaining about not being able to find a good man is.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:41 PM
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Yes, plenty of other countries also have men. Some even have guns.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 11:14 AM
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Just because it's easy for you doesn't mean that everybody can do it.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 08:04 AM
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Not just feminists. There are plenty of non-feminists women that don't understand what it is like to be a man. We can argue if it's "most", but that would depend on the level of understanding we're talking about.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 07:59 AM
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It originates in biology. The males want offspring, but the females are selective, trying to the get the best male. This creates a fierce competition between males, and that results in a tendency for higher risk taking, and more violence. Of course, that analysis is not helpful at all for coming up with solutions., since we can't change biology. It would be more helpful to ask "why is it always Americans?", or "what made it worse in the recent decade?"
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:46 AM
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If you include gang shootings in the definition of mass shootings (as the FBI does), it's not just white men.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:40 AM
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Not getting attention from people.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 04:15 AM
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Men should be allowed to cry without fear of being judged. And, more importantly, men should be allowed to be silent about their emotions without being judged.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 04:14 AM
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Just looking at the post ruins my mood.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:35 PM
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Of course, in the same sentence, they have no problem using the word "men" instead of "people that impregnate".
/r/MensRights08/07/22 08:49 AM
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Would you defend the same kind of reasoning if you replace male/female with white/black?
/r/MensRights08/07/22 03:25 AM
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Two tips: First of all, under no circumstance validate when the other person is yelling or slamming or getting violent in any way. If she yells at you, ignore whatever she says, but just ask her to repeat in a normal voice. If she can't do that, walk away to give her a time-out, and try again later. Obviously, you should never yell yourself. Take your time to collect your thoughts and speak calmly. Secondly, to minimize defensive/emotional response, do not linger on her past mistakes. Tell her y…
/r/MensRights07/07/22 07:48 AM
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Typical dictionary defines "sexism" as: Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on one's sex or gender. It says nothing about a "system". Ironically enough, sexism on a systemic level is mostly directed towards men.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 06:00 AM
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Everybody can have an opinion, and they are free to express it, and act upon their opinion in the confines of the law.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:13 AM
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No, the other groups don't have a singular set of standards. Plenty of feminists are extremists. Some even want to kill all/most men.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:05 AM
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This is pathetic. They're apologizing for something that they can't even explain what it is.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 04:55 AM
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What do you mean by "patriarchy"?
/r/MensRights07/07/22 03:23 AM
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Man hating never stopped feminism. In fact, it thrives on it.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 03:17 AM
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Even if you make an assumption, and it turns out that the other person made a different assumption, that's no reason to get mad. Instead, just wipe the slate clean, have a talk, and make sure everybody is on the same page from now on.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:50 PM
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Patient regret following the procedure is the most common long-term complication of sterilization, with rates reported anywhere from 0.9% to 26% for female sterilization and less than 5% for male sterilization. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2492586/ But in figure 5, you can see that regret rates go up to 40% when performed on young women between 18-24. Also keep in mind that transcervical sterilization, which is the least invasive procedure has zero possibility of reversal. M…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:05 PM
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Not according to the CREST study. Keep in mind that the numbers strongly depend on the age when the procedure was done, and how long the wait time is. A number like 20-25% is just the average. you believe women can't be trusted to make their own decisions I believe what I see. It has nothing to do with "infantilizing". Even with current restrictions, we still have many people electing for irreversible sterilization and then regretting it later. Are you saying that regret is a problem that should…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:00 PM
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a lower risk of foreskin infections I'm working on a great idea to reduce nose, ear, and eye infections.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:40 PM
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"Men should open up" "Not like that!"
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:19 PM
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Even if not formally legal, public nudity is treated with smiles when women do it, and with panic when men do it.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 07:26 AM
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You're saying we don't have equality yet, and then give a bunch of examples where men are behind in their rights. But feminism does nothing to help those men. Feminists actively deny men more rights.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 07:24 AM
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Young women who get sterilized have a very high level of regret later in life, up to 40% of cases. The regret for men is much lower. women are treated as if they can't be trusted to make their own decisions If the regret rate is 40%, can they be trusted to make their own decisions?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 07:21 AM
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So what non-legal rights do men have that women don't, and vice versa?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 07:17 AM
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"Not as important" is not an excuse. There are thousands of things not as important as abortion that get proper attention every day. We can do more than one thing, you know.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:41 PM
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Nah, they're just mad at women. Obviously, when you're mad at someone, you're seeing them as inferior. It's not a political system.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:34 PM
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right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism" Some frustrated loner shooting up random people is not respecting authority, hierarchy, order, duty or tradition, and has very little to do with nationalism. So where is the overlap?
/r/MensRights05/07/22 06:49 PM
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Being frustrated about sex doesn't make a person "far right".
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:10 PM
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more male teachers—which may actually reinforce masculine hegemony Male teachers are the minority in most schools. There is no masculine hegemony to reinforce. The primary school that my kids went to only had one male teacher, and he ended up leaving/kicked out as well.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 02:08 PM
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it looks better When I pull my foreskin all the way back, it looks identical to a circumcised penis.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 08:32 AM
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It also means that circumcised men are less likely to want to use a condom, negating all the claimed STI prevention benefits.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:10 AM
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Does anyone even read the experience people have when they get it done in adulthood? If you choose to have it done, the likelihood of being happy with the outcome goes up. If you grab a random sample of 100 men, and circumcise them, most of them will not be happy about it.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:09 AM
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Nah, they're just totally clueless.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 05:26 PM
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If they genuinely want to help men, you would think they'd start by listening to what men have to say, instead of telling men to shut up.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 04:37 PM
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You give them too much credit if you think they saw this coming.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 03:10 PM
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people like Clarence Thomas had their black card pulled a long time ago. So in their mind, black people are expected to perform according to stereotypes. How racist.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 12:16 PM
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"When I was young, people were laughing when I said I wanted to be a comedian. Well, nobody's laughing now!"
/r/MensRights04/07/22 05:58 AM
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How about 3rd trimester abortions? Same argument?
/r/MensRights04/07/22 05:37 AM
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I notice the same kind of snide comments in woke male comedians. They think that simply insulting someone they disagree with is humor.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 04:40 AM
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You can look at a certain property, like math skills, and then create bell curves for men and women. For many properties, you will see two overlapping bell curves, with a small offset. Based on that, you could say that "in general, men have more or less of a certain characteristic than women". The effects of small offsets in bell curves is most noticeable at the extreme ends. The average man has a bit higher tendency to violence than the average woman, but extreme violence is a lot more common i…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 03:30 AM
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Men cannot teach women how to be women But they can still teach them a lot. For example, as a dad, I've always encouraged my daughter to take more risk than her mom is comfortable with. When she has questions, I give her a different kind of advice. When she has an argument with her mom, I help to advocate for her position if I think she's right. I've also told her things about what it is like to be man, and how to recognize good and bad things about men, and I've tried to show by example how a g…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 03:20 AM
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I don't feel like my mom has been a role model for me personally, but she has been a role model for my expectations about other women.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 03:11 AM
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Use google scholar for studies of adults circumcised in Africa that proved that. I guess that's good news for adult men choosing to be circumcised. That's not a good reason to routinely perform it on infants.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:56 AM
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If my foreskin is pulled up while wearing underwear, it's so sensitive it hurts. I assume that doesn't happen when circumcised.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:52 AM
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So a white man doesn't know what it's like to be a woman, but a black man does? How did they get the sacred knowledge?
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:45 AM
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Nowadays feminists want men to provide for their family but they dont want men to be leaders in a relationship. This is not a very good deal for men or for relationships in the long term Long term, it's not even a good deal for women, because such an arrangement creates instability. There's too much temptation for the woman to treat herself better. It's like having a family where the kids are in charge. It may seem great for the kids at first, but they'll destroy the family with poor decision ma…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:42 AM
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The biological differences exist, and they exist to give our genes the best chance of survival. In itself, that's neither good or harmful. It's just what's been the most successful for the majority of people.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:41 AM
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It’s funny you used construction as the example Not really, since it was the topic of this entire thread. Writing management software is not quite the same as walking around on a construction site and giving orders to people.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:37 AM
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Your job qualifications have very little overlap with being the boss on a construction site.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:18 AM
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I am familiar with the dictionary definitions.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:11 AM
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It's also interesting to see how just taking testosterone supplements changes their personality and behavior. It clearly shows that there are inherent biological differences between men and women, not just social conditioning.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:52 AM
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Imagine a manager on a construction site gets along perfectly fine with a crew of 50 men, and then a single woman joins who demands a different way of communication. Imagine that this different way of communicating makes the workers less efficient. If the manager refuses to change, is he a shitty manager, or is she a shitty employee?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:48 AM
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You're not making sense. If you're in a monogamous relationship with someone, and they have friends that are crossing the line between a simple friendship and a romantic relationship, you have a valid reason to object to that.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:40 AM
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toxic masculinity harbored by males and females That term is very unhelpful, because it implies the blame lies with men. If a woman is unwilling to help a man with emotional issues, nobody will accuse her of "toxic masculinity". The word "toxic" by itself is also wrong. Men and women are naturally different, and men are generally less emotional. That's just normal. The word "toxic" implies that the female behavior is somehow more superior, and that male behavior is deviant and needs to be fixed.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:25 AM
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You need people for a street protest, and a cause that can be summarized in simple slogans. Both require creating widespread awareness first.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:12 AM
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How many feminists are happy to give up rights in areas where men have it worse?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:41 AM
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A good manager needs to understand how to adjust their social skills, demeanor, and ways of communicating regardless of gender It's not going to be "regardless of gender" if the style has to be adapted specifically for women. I was also not just talking about the manager, but also how the regular workers talk to each other. There's probably no guys in a construction crew that finished college, and if there was, he would probably get the nickname "professor", especially if he made any kind of req…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 03:41 AM
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There's a HUGE difference between the words friends and a monogamous relationship. That depends on the nature of this "friendship". It can be huge, but it can also be small. It is up to individuals to judge and then behave accordingly.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 03:28 AM
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women are significantly more likely to be killed by an acquaintance. The question is, are they more likely to be killed by an ugly man or a handsome one?
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:34 PM
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He finished him alright.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:32 PM
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The gender disparity in primary education is an interesting case, because in the recent decades, it has only gotten worse. Men are being chased away from primary education, mostly by the female teachers/administration and the parents who don't feel comfortable with male teachers, and also overall lack of discipline/structure that goes with a more masculine way of teaching. traditionally feminine characteristics of ‘caring and nurturing’ I can see where that would influence preschool/kindergarten…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:28 PM
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Obviously some of the women with serious careers who earn good money are going to marry men who earn less than them. I don't know why that's "obvious". The women with (serious) careers could also be marrying men with even better careers. The only thing preventing this in some cases is the lingering "patriarchal" belief No, the woman could simply have a personal preference to have a man that makes more than her. Note that the code word that modern women use is "ambitious", like in this article: A…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:13 PM
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I suppose you could read the article first.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:45 PM
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That's obviously nonsense, and if you can't see that I don't know how else to explain it to you It's not a matter of "explaining". We all understand the concept. What you have to do is find some research to show that these behaviors are indeed shifting.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:43 PM
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To be honest, playing "toilet tag" does sound a bit weird when adults and children are involved.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:40 PM
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Men often earn more than women because of how society traditionally assigns gender roles I think you overestimate the influence of "society" on individual choices. How exactly is that influence exerted? Almost all popular culture & media in the last 50 years has been pushing for feminism and liberation.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:31 PM
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we will get away from women refusing to marry a man who earns less than her Can you show that this is indeed happening?
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:25 PM
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‘Grown’ is a disingenuous way to phrase it No, it's just a word that describes the first derivative of the number of people who report feelings of gender dysphoria. This isn’t because people are seeing homosexuality as ‘cool’ or ‘trendy’ Has there been a similarly significant rise in the number of people coming out as gay/lesbian in the last decade ?
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:19 PM
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Another typical example is one person yelling something to the other, when something important requires immediate attention, such as catching an object that's about to fall. When there's a good reason for a certain way of communication, and it wasn't meant to be rude, it shouldn't be interpreted as rude.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:50 PM
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But that's not the same. If a feminist said: "all the men I met have been unreasonable and indecent, so I don't expect the next one to be better", that would be fine.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:28 PM
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I assume he gave up reasonableness and decency on all genders he's trying to date.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 03:53 PM
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You can give something up without hate. If you have a bunch of bad experiences, you give up, because you expect future encounters not to be any better, and it's just taking too much effort or causing too much grief.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 03:37 PM
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What's the point of monogamy if either one or both of you are unhappy with the arrangement? Of course, if monogamy makes her unhappy, then she's free to leave. But just because she wanted to have guy friends doesn't mean she would be unhappy in a monogamous relationship. It is quite possible she would have more respect for a guy with standards, and that's she's happy to stay.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 03:31 PM
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She isn't property, but you can still have standards like demanding a monogamous relationship, and that doesn't mean you're insecure. If she doesn't want to meet those standards, she's free to leave.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 02:42 PM
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Most MRAs are egalitarians.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:49 AM
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you may end up doing a normal share of the fishing plus an abnormal share of the cooking Having seen some of the insanely hard physical work the deck crew does, I would be surprised to see women matching the men in output. But in the case that she really does, I don't think she would need any advice on how to handle herself with the guys.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:47 AM
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Exactly. There is already a working justice system, so it doesn't make sense that universities are making their own internal version. If they are making it the same, it's just a wasteful duplication of effort. If they are making a "light" version, it's probably not fair and unbiased.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:17 AM
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They are always complaining about doctors refusing to perform the procedure on women, but according to the CREST study, there's a significant amount of patients with regret, especially when it's done young women (under 25). About 40% of these women have regrets within 15 years. Regret of male vasectomy is much lower.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 07:05 AM
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And "doing the job well" also means getting along with co-workers, and the established way of working. Men and women can have different ways of communicating, and the men shouldn't have to walk on eggshells just because there's a woman in the team. That doesn't excuse outright misogyny or bullying, of course, but it does mean that the men should be allowed to be direct and short when giving instructions, for example.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:28 AM
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People can report their accusations to the police or to HR, and an investigation can be conducted quietly if the accusation is credible enough. Unfounded accusations should not be spread over public media.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 03:21 AM
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It's because the gender studies are mostly done by women, so they see themselves as the norm.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 02:47 AM
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The guy would be accused of sexual assault, not get any custody/visitation, and still be on the hook for child support.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 04:58 PM
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Men internalise this, don’t know what to do with big feelings and it ends horrifically. No, in most cases that's completely wrong. Things end horrifically when men are dealing with unsolvable problems, such as financial ruin, terrible loneliness, or custody battles they have no chance of winning. Your advice that men in those positions should "cry" is useless. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, and nobody will be rushing in to help. On the contrary, a crying man is seen as a loser, and tha…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 03:01 PM
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I am using this term as a systemic social structure, not in reference to men Why? A patriarch is a male leader, so why would you use a word that clearly refers to men in a way that doesn't reference men? It's also a lie, because when feminists are talking about the patriarchy, as you just did, it always involves blaming men.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 02:47 PM
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Not relevant to this sub.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 02:37 PM
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No, if she hadn't done it, somebody else would have, for whatever reason. What matters is the end result, and the arguments presented by the Supreme Court decision(s).
/r/MensRights01/07/22 02:30 PM
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‘Jane Roe’ confesses on her deathbed that she was paid to say and play the part. Even if true, it's not really relevant to the discussion.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 01:50 PM
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They don't need men.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 01:25 PM
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If we can identify who is more likely to commit these crimes and what precedes them All of that can be done in a gender neutral way. then we can provide them with support Like, go to incel forums, and show your empathy? And if your analysis was correct, then men would be murdering others over some competition for women most frequently. Evolution doesn't work that way. Our traits are not that specific. Men have a lower threshold for violence and higher competitiveness, because for the expected ro…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 01:24 PM
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Also that comments reeks of such misogyny, I won’t even address it You should address it so that people can correct your misunderstanding.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 12:47 PM
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You are misrepresenting the results of the study. It just shows that both men and women believe in gender stereotypes. It also doesn't say anywhere that men are forcing women into stereotypes, so it's not a matter of oppression.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 12:37 PM
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According to feminist theory, men are oppressing women. That implies that they are evil.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 12:03 PM
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Some kinds of flaws are more common in one gender, others more common in the other.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 11:18 AM
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Just point the thing up. Not really a problem.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 11:12 AM
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Agreed, but that also means that there need to be guarantees that no doctor will ever get sued for performing the operation and somebody gets regrets a few years later.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 10:28 AM
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Just that this is clearly an issue with gendered component, and that we need to acknowledge that component before any solution can be identified Why? In what sense are we getting closer to a solution if we acknowledge that men are more violent? Something about the way men are socialized make them more likely to murder The fundamental reason is the desire for men to have children. Women are selective who they pick as a man. A man who isn't chosen, and doesn't get to have any children is an evolut…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 07:41 AM
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Something like 90% of all homicides in the world are committed by men And if you build a woman-only world, then 100% of all homicides will be committed by women. Then what?
/r/MensRights01/07/22 07:35 AM
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Not just the infrastructure, but also the social order. Women will start to fight each other.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 06:53 AM
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If the woman wants to avoid getting pregnant, it also not obvious that the man should be the one to get a vasectomy. There's no guarantee that her current partner is the only man she will have sex with for the rest of her life. If she never wants to have children again, she should be getting her tubes tied instead.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 06:17 AM
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the built-in reward for most people is having income, shelter, food, a functioning society, and security. Yes, but you can get the exact same rewards by sitting in the sun, while somebody else does the backbreaking work. That means that the reward must be personal, otherwise people would fight over who has to do the dirty work. You need more than engineers who sit behind a desk, creating the pipe network on a computer. You need "blue collar engineers". Those are the people that actually dig up t…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:17 AM
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But then the simple Kenyan village cannot be used as proof that it would work.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:08 AM
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Everybody can walk to a river to get drinking water. Not everybody can design, build, and maintain a running water system. I'm not saying that women are fundamentally incapable of doing that. The problem is that not enough women are interested in doing those kinds of jobs, compared to the needs of society. There is also no built-in reward for doing backbreaking work. Men are motivated to do shitty jobs in return for spending some time with wife and kids in the weekend. It will be much harder to …
/r/MensRights01/07/22 04:59 AM
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For starters, I doubt that American women would be happy to walk to a nearby river to obtain drinking water.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 04:45 AM
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because some problems are more or less intrinsically insoluble. Other problems might be solvable, but not in a straightforward way. Like poverty, for instance. The solution to poverty is not giving money to poor people, but to have a society where everybody can find a job to take care of themselves. But there are no buttons to push to transform an entire society in something that works better.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 04:38 AM
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And why the ones that are still attending college will avoid contact with girls, and then they will call this 'toxic'.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 04:19 AM
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But we're not talking about 'a confession under duress'. We're just talking about the sequence of events that led to the couple of having sex, and her claiming she was raped. The exact sequence of events is important for a jury to establish the evidence. If the guy forced himself into her apartment, a video from the doorbell would be evidence. If he was invited, the exact same video would not be evidence.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 03:50 AM
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I grew up in the deep south away from internet and my upbringing was ultra conservative. Then you're an exception, and this isn't about you.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 03:42 AM
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you’re using that unscientific claim to invalidate trans people No, it doesn't invalidate them. Their feelings are still real. What do you gain from lying and saying gender dysphoria is a trend It's not about me gaining anything. And it's not a "lie", because that would imply that we know the truth. It is a fact that gender dysphoria has grown a lot in recent decades. How do you explain that?
/r/MensRights01/07/22 03:39 AM
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2 guys 14 years ago is not promiscuity by today's standards.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:10 PM
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How would the truth make it harder to judge impartially than a lie?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:08 PM
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You could also ask why anyone would choose to get a life threatening eating disorder, but anorexia by peer pressure is a real thing. Obviously no one is going to ‘choose’ to become an immensely marginalised If you pick the right social group, you will be celebrated, not marginalized.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:48 PM
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More men going to jail is not a good thing if there are innocent men among them.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:26 PM
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A woman sleeping with 2 guys 14 years ago in college shouldn't be paraded on display to discredit her In that case, it will be very unlikely that this is brought up as defense.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:25 PM
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Why not? Shouldn't the judge/jury know the full story?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:24 PM
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What are they waiting for? I'd say, go ahead and build one.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:45 PM
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unless I find you hot Or unless I need something from you.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:42 PM
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There is not scientific consensus about when an embryo is sentient. Then how does a society decide at what time it's still allowed to terminate the life of the fetus? Some people say until the day it is born. Others say 25 weeks. Can we all decide for ourselves?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:25 PM
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And especially teaching, where the kids would actually benefit from having more male role models, and male-style teaching. That's a place where quotas would actually make sense.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:04 PM
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How do you know?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:11 PM
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Outright bans on abortion are not within reason. They are within dogmatic religious authoritarianism. Isn't that just a matter of different reason? The reason you find 3rd trimester abortions "immoral" is also just an arbitrary choice. I mean, you probably have some reasoning for it, but there's nothing about it that you could claim with absolute conviction to be true. if someone has a terminal illness and is suffering to their death, their informed consent should permit them to check out with s…
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:06 PM
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Women, like myself, prefer emotional men who are in tune with a healthy expression of their inner thoughts Go on /r/askmen, and ask what happened the last time they opened up about an emotional problem with their girlfriend/wife. I dare you. Feminists advocate AGAINST a draft entirely. Then show a few links to feminist subreddits where they have advocated such.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 01:24 PM
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Men who think the patriarchy doesn’t exist while complaining about the result of the patriarchy Patriarchy is a social system in which men dominate over others. We don't have that. Women have more power than men. Literally use the internet and you will find feminist advocates for a plethora of male issues We were talking about the draft and MGM specifically. You made the claim that feminists are helping men in that fight, so I'm asking you for evidence. Men can't be emotional, because women are …
/r/MensRights30/06/22 01:09 PM
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How in the fuck does that mean you get to force others to conform to your lifestyle? We do that all the time. Even in permissive states, abortion is limited to the first part of the pregnancy. Euthanasia is illegal in all 50 states.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:59 PM
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a direct result of the patriarchy lol The patriarchy is a myth. What we have is gynocentrism. Men protect women with their lives, and women expect no less. The other day we had a viral video of a woman getting attacked in a NY subway, and various feminists were complaining that no men in the train lifted a finger to help. feminism actually fights against both of these issues Show me where they do. Any feminist group posts here on reddit that you can link?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:38 PM
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He's not bitching, just making observations.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 10:11 AM
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The government should have no say on what a mother wants to do with her body medically. If you accept that the fetus has its own body, then it's not so obvious that the government should not do anything to protect it. In fact, even with the original Roe v Wade ruling, the government was allowed to put restrictions on abortion based on the progress of the pregnancy.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 09:08 AM
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Genital mutilation of non-consenting infant boys is one. The draft is another.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:24 AM
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The foundations of feminist theory (including the claim that men are the oppressors) are hateful. If you in favor of equal rights for women, but you denounce feminist theory, you're not a feminist, but an egalitarian.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:23 AM
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That's okay. Somebody else might read it, and see the bad faith exposed for what it is.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:19 AM
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labelling the aboriginals as violent reinforces the 'savages' myth. What if people are not 'labeling' but are just collecting statistics? Is that allowed?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:01 AM
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You don't know what it means for people to be working below minimum wage? What word do you have trouble with?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:46 AM
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So is there some law or policy you'd like changed or enacted I want you to agree that we don't live in a patriarchy, and that men are not privileged. Can you do that? The policy will follow naturally from there.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:34 AM
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If you believe that everyone has a right to their own beliefs, why would you say "the reason is fucking irrelevant" ? Do people not have a right to believe that the reason is relevant?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:30 AM
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I've never seen anyone here post about rallies to attend, laws to back I've seen numerous posts drawing attention to the 'bloodstained men', protesting on the streets against MGM.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:26 AM
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In this sub, I’ve never actually seen any calls to action You can't have a successful call to action without first getting enough support, and that requires spreading information, which is what this sub is doing.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:24 AM
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You said: the reason is fucking irrelevant, it is straight up their life and their choice When people disagree to their core with that statement, you can't just ignore it. The reasons are relevant. the focus has to be dragged off of it back to a woman's issue? No, it's not a woman's issue. The issue is whether (or when) the fetus has human rights. Even if you don't believe so, you have to recognize that others hold this belief, and their opinions count just as much.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:01 AM
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It's not things that "annoy me". By claiming that women are systematically oppressed by men, men's rights are affected.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:55 AM
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What do you want? I'm not the person you were talking to, but I want people to stop saying we live in a patriarchy. I accept that women get more privileges than men. All I ask is that women are honest about that.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:43 AM
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the lowest wage jobs are actually occupied by women I don't think so. There may be more women doing jobs for minimum wage, but more men doing jobs below minimum wage.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:39 AM
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You're not willing to debate the issue whether a fetus has human rights, which is okay, but that means that you can not make the claim that a woman's right to abortion is uncontested and obvious.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:35 AM
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The ironic thing is that political corruption is indeed a much bigger problem, but the abortion debate is powerful enough to capture the minds of the people so that they will fight each other and distract from the corruption problems. I wouldn't just blame the Republicans. Both parties are corrupt, and they are working together to keep it that way.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:27 AM
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It hurts the woman more than the man. The weapon of withholding sex is quite formidable, but can only be used once. In this case, it is blunted, because the man that is targeted has no power to overrule the SC decision. If the man knows that sex is off the table for the next couple of years, the threat of withholding sex for smaller things no longer has any impact.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:19 AM
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If they're not constitutionally protected, they should be That would involve writing an amendment to the constitution, which could have been tried in the last decades. Failing that, the right to abortion could have been codified in regular law.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:11 AM
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I would also put the blame on the married one (man or woman). They are the ones that made their vows. Other people can do whatever they want.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:01 AM
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First of all, supreme court rulings are not supposed to be a display of democracy. The justices are not elected by the people. Secondly, most people have no clue what they're talking about. When people say they support Roe v Wade, they mean they support abortion rights. But RvW was not about whether you're in favor of abortion rights, but whether these rights are constitutionally protected. Most people are not familiar enough with the precise texts of the constitution to make that claim one way …
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:58 AM
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If the minority opinion is able to dictate the laws, then there are more fundamental problems with democracy. People should be protesting those instead.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:45 AM
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In other words, people can choose to grant human rights to an unborn child, and then protect these rights.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:35 AM
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If the majority of the people in my country disagree with my definition of murder In other words, it's a good thing that voters in each state can choose a representative according to their own definitions. clearly I need to stop massively oversimplifying complex situations Yes, you do.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:39 PM
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If you feel that someone is committing murder, should you impose your opinion on them, or just let them enjoy their freedoms ?
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:53 PM
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If science doesn't have a good definition, then people have a right to disagree.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:10 PM
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Some people believe the fetus should also be able to control their body.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 01:59 PM
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If a man can't pay child support, the government controls his body by locking it in a jail cell. I would like Meghan Markle to be more vocal about that.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 01:57 PM
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I would think that a woman strong and motivated enough to become leader of Russia is not going to be same as your friendly neighborhood lady.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 10:15 AM
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All the men would be slaves, with 80% working in labor camps and the other 20% would have sex & entertainment duties. Ok, ok, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit here, maybe only 10% instead of 20%.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 06:00 AM
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Really only the top 10-20% or so of men have benefited from the sexual liberation. They get to sleep around and get all the action, while a lot of men are not getting anything.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 05:20 AM
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If they're willing to debate honestly, they can come over here. They'll get downvoted, but the same will happen in a new sub.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:35 AM
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Very close to zero rapes and murders happen because someone forgot to tell the perpetrator.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:32 AM
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If you hate being uncircumcised, go ask a doctor to perform the procedure. That's what bodily autonomy means.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:27 AM
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Gossip makes up about two-thirds of the naturally occurring conversations of adult men and women https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/growing-friendships/201401/why-do-girls-gossip
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:43 PM
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I don't find it a healthy attitude to be expecting returns in matters of personal relationships I don't. My genes do. My genes have programmed my brain to just enjoy company of friends without thinking in expecting returns. The reason that genes do this programming, is because there's an expected return. It's complicated, I know. Many people have problem understanding multi layer abstractions.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:40 PM
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It's the same argument, it's just viewed from a different abstraction.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:37 PM
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If we do friendships purely for love, how come you can have a group of girls, all have great fun as friends, until one leaves, and then the others start gossiping about her? Why would you hurt your friend with gossip?
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:36 PM
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There aren't many things that people in general enjoy doing that does not have some deep evolutionary advantage.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:34 PM
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Do you believe relationships and friendships are always simply transactional, or whether they can transcend? It's not "or", but "and". Both things usually happen at the same time.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:31 PM
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I just explained that this not the case.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:20 PM
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Don't worry, she'll blame men for this.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:15 PM
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Are your other friendships also based on simple transactional value over the more normative notion of 'liking to be with each other' Our ultimate goal is to spread our genes. In order to do that, we have many smaller goals and accomplishments, which often make us feel good as a reward. We enjoy the sensation of eating ice cream, because it is full of energy that we need to survive. But when we eat ice cream, we do it because we enjoy the sensation, not because it has so many calories. Our genes …
/r/MensRights28/06/22 06:13 PM
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So when providing for your partner, you aren't doing it out of love Correct. Men provide for women because men want children. It's the same for many animals. Love is just a tool that our genes use to control the brain.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 05:52 PM
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I thought that it's rather obvious that "provide for them" is not the same as "buying a drink in return for a pregnancy" If you're failing to understand that, I'm afraid the problem is at your end. Also, I just gave a couple of quick examples, not a comprehensive list of all the things that men do for women. For instance, men are also still expected to buy expensive engagement rings, and fancy wedding parties. I figured that once I showed a few examples, you would be able to come up with many mo…
/r/MensRights28/06/22 05:21 PM
1

saying you paid for dinner is equal to having your genitals split open Well, that's not what I said. Clearly, you're not trying to have an honest debate.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 03:37 PM
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Unless the guy was drunk or a minor, or she lied about being on birth control.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 03:12 PM
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I'm saying that society already compensates women for all the extra risk and effort they do. That's why men provide for them, buy drinks and dinners, and do most of the courtship. Even a woman alone will get government money paid by men. A man has to prove his worth by accomplishing something. A woman can survive by offering the services of her womb.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 03:10 PM
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No, they are not simple and easy. I already acknowledged that.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 01:47 PM
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That depends on what you mean by 'men'. What definition are you using?
/r/MensRights28/06/22 01:45 PM
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If, out of a 100 men, there are 90 men who take the effort of walking at a greater distance, then they will be even more afraid of the 10 that don't, because those are 10 times more likely to be rapists or harassers.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 12:18 PM
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If the dad didn't consent, then the mom should pay everything. It's a civil conflict between the two.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 12:14 PM
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The giant medical trauma + childcare is exactly the reason for our gynocentric society, and why women already get more privileges as compensation.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:56 AM
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Child support should be based on the child's needs only, should be related to custody percentage, and only be enforced if the dad consented to having a child.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:54 AM
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Clarence Thomas only looks black. Most blacks cannot relate to Clarence Thomas and I would say that he is more white than black, if that is a thing. Yes, that "thing" is called racism. You're enforcing the notion that black people must act in a way that's stereotypical for their race.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:46 AM
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the point they are making is not that controlling women is bad but that who is characterized as controlling women is incorrect. This is an extremest view. Complaining about old white men is the extremist (racist, sexist, and ageist) view. Correcting that mischaracterization with facts is not extremist.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:42 AM
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They’re typically voting in contests with two male candidates. And none of these male candidates are in favor of permissive abortion laws?
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:34 AM
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On the contrary. The original claim is the racist one. Showing a map with factual data is not racist. All that we need to conclude from the map is that stricter abortion laws do not correlate with dominance of old white men, and are therefore not causally related. Most likely, skin color, as an independent variable, has no effect at all on abortion policies. It certainly does not have the effect that OP claimed.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:32 AM
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Generally speaking, women have smaller and less muscular bodies, with different sex hormones which make their ligaments more lax, leaving them more prone to certain injuries. It means, say scientists, that men are better protected than women when it comes to road safety. In other words, it has nothing to do with "male" crash test dummies. If we did all the test with a female body type crash test dummy, then male bodies would still survive the accidents better. With respect to medicine trials, a …
/r/MensRights28/06/22 10:30 AM
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It's misleading if you assume it's the cause, rather than just a correlation.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 02:59 AM
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The original post was suggesting that especially old white men were interesting in controlling women. The map shows that this is nonsense.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 07:48 PM
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The reality is different. Countries with black populations have more restrictive abortion laws. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/what-are-abortion-laws-in-other-countries-map-shows-how-they-compare/3751123/
/r/MensRights27/06/22 07:23 PM
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no one is agreeing to get pregnant when they have sex unless that is specifically the outcome of the session You're agreeing to take a risk. If you're not comfortable with that risk, you won't be forced to have sex. Mandatory vasectomy is forced.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 07:16 PM
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This must be the famous "bodily autonomy" they like to talk about.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:05 PM
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You're worried about precious bodily fluids?
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:41 PM
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We're trying to have a safe space here. Please stop with your hurtful language.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:37 PM
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Wealthier yes, but not taller or better looking. Also, the 30-40 year old tall rich guys are going to be looking for 20-25 year old women.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:33 PM
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Even with 99% effectiveness, there won't be "huge economic implications" There's also plan B. Also, as a man, there was no guarantee that the girl you got pregnant was going to get an abortion.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 02:57 PM
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That depends on what people are going to do now. If they make sure to use good contraceptives, then nothing changes.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:42 PM
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Even if men wanted to help, they have very little social power. I'll get some popcorn instead, and just watch the fight from a distance.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 11:11 AM
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A typical surrogate mother in the US is paid around $40,000 so that's what the market thinks this is worth.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 08:38 AM
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Correct. Childbirth is not gender inclusive, but that's just how biology works. Men and women have different responsibilities. Nature isn't fair. lmao when the child is born the parents don’t give up their organs wtf I didn't say they "give up" their organs, but they will be forced to use their body to make money so they can feed their child. You're not allowed to let your child starve in a corner.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 07:34 AM
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lmao a human doesn’t decide for conception to occur. that is outside of a human’s free will. Free will can keep your legs closed. No human during this time has rights to use someone else’s organ to survive After the child is born, the parents are required by law to use their organs to provide for the child, so what's the difference?
/r/MensRights27/06/22 06:59 AM
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the vast majority of people who are against abortion are very religious That does not negate what I said. They are less concerned with the consequences of the mother, because they hold her responsible for the choices she made.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 05:46 AM
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a person with a uterus is forced for go through pregnancy Only after they decide to get pregnant. Since equal rights for all humans are valued Some people value the rights of the unborn human, even if the child isn't theirs. You insist on ignoring that.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 05:18 AM
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I was not in support of the original Supreme Court decision in Roe v Wade, because such an important matter should be decided by elected representatives, not 7 men in robes.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:56 AM
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If abortion is outlawed, that means more men paying child support. Only true if nothing else changes. When abortion is not available, more women will take extra precautions not to get pregnant.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:51 AM
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The mother is paying child support by donating nutrients through the umbilical cord, so your argument goes two ways.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:42 AM
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As a communist, do you really want a group of 7 justices to dictate the law?
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:40 AM
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People who are against abortion mostly do so because they grant these human rights to the unborn child. You can disagree with that, but you can't just dismiss their argument as if it doesn't exist at all.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:38 AM
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Hence people with a uterus value the choice to have an abortion. No, a significant portion of women value the life of the unborn child over the mother's choice, even when it's not their own uterus.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:25 AM
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If they wait until 30 to pick out a man to have a committed relationship with, the available pool of hot rich tall guys is even smaller, and the ones that are still not taken most likely have some kind of personality problem. Either they will have to settle for a "lesser" man, or stay single. If they are going to settle, then it would have been better to do so at an earlier age, before everybody gets bitter and jaded.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:23 AM
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The huge protests are not a fair representation of all women. The ones that are not agreeing with the protests are quietly at home.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:17 AM
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Everybody is allowed to have their own preferences, but there are two issues: First of all, it women are allowed to express their preferences for certain men, then men should not be shamed for expressing similar preferences regarding women's body shapes. Secondly, there are not enough hot tall rich guys for every woman who wants one. If we can convince more women to look outside that demographic, more women (and men) will end up happier in their lives.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:49 AM
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If people with a uterus ran societies, abortion would be a very easily accessible thing Citation required.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:39 AM
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Bodily autonomy is not equal to financial autonomy How does bodily autonomy work when you're locked in a prison cell?
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:33 AM
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It would be nice if child support payments were based on the actual needs of the child.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:33 AM
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Being the gender that gives birth has the advantage that you can be 100% sure you are the parent.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 03:30 AM
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People who say that the patriarchy doesn't exist will also deny that male problems are fundamentally caused by the patriarchy. So, yes, us guys can say that. It's perfectly logically consistent.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 02:58 PM
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Not really. We can condemn all kinds of acts by others without taking any responsibility to fix their problems.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 02:55 PM
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Yes, powerful positions are majority held by men, both in public and private sector, but that's not a common definition of "patriarchy" What does it mean that men dominate these positions? They are not giving special favors to other men, and they didn't get special favors because they were men.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 02:32 PM
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What definition of patriarchy are we using?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 02:23 PM
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men are more than welcome in the community How welcome was Johnny Depp?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 11:59 AM
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Sometimes taking away rights is the quickest way to change. If you ask women to support abolishing the draft for men, it will be hard to motivate them to help. If you included women in the draft, they will quickly change their minds.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 11:43 AM
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And publicly embarrass your son for years to come.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 11:39 AM
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The notion of "it's not bothering me" should not be the prime consideration for an irreversible surgical procedure on infants.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:37 AM
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No, the primary mode of protection is for the reproduction rate of the virus to go below 1, so that infections will die down. You can achieve that with a partially effective vaccine, provided that it is taken by a sufficiently large percentage of the population.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:30 AM
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And how do you think a "pro-life" woman would respond to that argument?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:27 AM
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Do they mean a biological women or someone who underwent sex change? That is the question. A proper definition should give the answer.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:13 AM
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Yeah, I was young and naive, and automatically assumed that our marriage would last 'until death do us part', just like the marriages of our parents did. If you're going to stay together forever, it makes perfect sense to share everything, because you're a team, not two different people. It's now > 25 years later, and we are still a team, and everything worked out, but now that I'm older I realize that not everybody is so lucky. It's hard to say whether I would do things differently, knowing wha…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 05:30 AM
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Modern feminists don't even understand our own culture. Specifically, they don't understand men. It would be hubris to assume they understand other cultures, and the underlying reasons why some things are the way they are. It's best not to interfere in systems you don't understand.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 05:18 AM
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What worked well for us is that all money goes into a common household account for common expenses, and then both of us get a monthly allowance for personal use. The household money is for bills and groceries, and for anything that we agree on.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 05:06 AM
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Workplace deaths because a man had to take a dangerous job to pay for his child support are not counted. In many cases, we say that men don't face any of those things, simply because we don't care enough to count them.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 04:11 AM
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And, for comparison, how many abortion clinics in the same area?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:58 AM
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men made the system You may remember a recent video on a NY subway where a woman was pulled by her hair by some guy, and he forced her to sit next to him. Here's a copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5urVtkaOA In a situation like this, do you want other men to step up and help her, or not?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:46 AM
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a product of patriarchy; that’s the system that decided men have to be protectors, have to be strong, aggressive, fearless, That system is the product of female selection. Just look around to see how people date. Women are very selective, and then expect men to do most of the work in courting her. This already filters out the shy, introverted and weak men.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:40 AM
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I've read bell hooks. Here's a random quote from one of her books: Before women's liberation all females young and old were socialized by sexist thinking to believe that our value rested solely on appearance and whether or not we were perceived to be good looking, especially by men Here she is blaming men for the fact that women are walking around the office in uncomfortable high heels. In reality, when a woman comes to the office in a decent pair of flat soled shoes, no man is going to complain…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:29 AM
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if you come with good faith questions there’s no reason you should be banned What I see as a good faith question will simply be called 'trolling', and banned, or it will get a short non-answer by one or two people, and ignored by the rest. Any attempt at further discussion will be stopped. For instance, the concept of 'patriarchy' doesn't currently exist if you use one definition (the one from the dictionary), or if you use the feminist definition of a set of social expectations for gender roles…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:01 AM
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Millions of other women disagree. Either way, I'm not going to march with people who tell me to shut up when it's time to discuss my problems.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:56 PM
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It's not even a matter of trust. The assurance is just a statement of her own feelings at the time, not a promise to respect his wishes no matter what. the implication that women are less trustworthy is definitely misogyny Not necessarily. It could be factual and backed up by science, or it could be an honest mistake thinking it was factual. Also, at no point was implied that a man in a similar position would be any different. If you would tweak a man's hormones, his feelings could also dramatic…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:49 PM
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It's not misogyny to point out that people can change their feelings. The hormones provide an important biological function to create a deep bond with the growing child.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:29 PM
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High risk pregnancies with even a remotely small chance of survival are banned Where?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:24 PM
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Let me check.... no sorry, no uterus. If not for men, [...], we would have none of the inequality in terms of gender rights Stop blaming men for everything, and only then I might consider supporting you.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:19 PM
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In what state are they planning to ban life saving abortions?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:18 PM
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Not that I've seen, no.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:05 PM
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Correct, that is not hysteria, but that's not what you said.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:02 PM
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Hysteria is not helpful.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 04:52 PM
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Or maybe you are not considering the fact that it's not the same for all men.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:24 PM
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Maybe not in your case, but I'm pretty sure out of the 100 cases, some will flip. At least now you get clarity.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:13 AM
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Good idea. Calling people offensive names will convince them to join your side.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:09 AM
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Forget it. Even if you burn the whole country down, the supreme court is not going to reverse the decision. If you want to have abortion rights, then lobby for new laws.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:07 AM
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Two brothers were having a fight about how to divide a cake. One brother wanted to keep the whole thing for himself. The other wanted to cut it in 2 halves. The mom offers a compromise between the two. The first brother gets 3/4 of the cake, the other gets 1/4.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:06 AM
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she assured me that That assurance may flip around if the hormones start building up.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:04 AM
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There was no guarantee that the girl would have wanted to go ahead with abortion, even if she claimed that she would get one. At least now there is no more uncertainty about that.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:02 AM
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It's better to be dead than suffering. But yet, euthanasia is illegal in all 50 states, and nobody is marching in the streets.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:20 AM
1

I have a better idea. How about not doing that?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:08 AM
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"getting old" is not the same as "getting invalid" Complaining about the tone is also useless. If you have better ideas, then show the way.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 08:22 AM
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How does that number follow from your reasoning?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:52 AM
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What's the difference between a struggling baby with my DNA, or somebody else's DNA? Our DNA is 99.9% the same anyway.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:45 AM
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It serves the agenda of the powerful elite. For them, abortion is a non issue that's a perfect tool to keep the population and media occupied. It's the modern variant of bread and circuses.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:42 AM
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point out to me any example of the pro-choice crowd forcing abortions onto someone who did not want one.. They would argue that the fetus wouldn't want one.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:40 AM
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Yes, that's a problem, and I think it's a much, much bigger problem than the abortion debate, and it's something that most people would be interested in fixing. I can't shake the impression that the people in power don't really care all that much about abortion, but love to have the debate control the public attention so that they can work on more important stuff such as increasing the gerrymandered districts while nobody is paying attention.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:39 AM
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I was always told "no uterus, no opinion"
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:10 AM
1

If the condom breaks, and they have plan B available to them, or can perform an abortion within 6 weeks, would that solve your problem?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:09 AM
-1

or is it people making a decision based upon their own religious convictions That doesn't make their position invalid, you know.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:07 AM
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But you pro-life nutters want to conflate ALL abortion as late term, chopping up the fetus kind of abortion..Do you not see how fucking intellectually dishonest this is? You're being intellectually dishonest by not responding to actual points that are made, but attacking straw men instead.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:06 AM
4

Even in Alabama, an abortion is allowed when the health of the mother is in danger.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:05 AM
3

Using your reasoning, what should be the cut off date for legal abortion?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 05:04 AM
1

We don't need more categories. The goal of sport is competition to see who is the (absolute) best. If you're going to create a million different categories, then winning your category becomes meaningless. The biggest events in sports are the Olympic games, and that's only for the elite. Since women make up 50% of the population and they want to compete too, they get their own category. If you're going to split that up any other way, people will lose interest in watching. Nobody wants to see the …
/r/MensRights25/06/22 04:59 AM
3

We're now down to cheap insults?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 04:52 AM
1

wth sports we can create systems of different categories like weight, height, testosterone level, lactic acid level, performance etc The problem is that you'll always have a level that's open at the top, where everybody will be allowed to participate. That level will be dominated by men, and then women will want a category of their own. If you make extra levels with lower testosterone in an attempt to accommodate these women, then some women will be excluded because their natural testosterone le…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:58 AM
3

There is no realistic way that the 2 party system can be fixed by voting, because neither of the 2 parties will ever agree to this.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:49 AM
0

In what definition of the word "man", though? Childbirth is the most womanly thing I can imagine. It's also not recommended to get pregnant while using testosterone.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:45 AM
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And you care enough to argue about someone else caring.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:34 AM
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Nobody voted for anyone on the Supreme Court The point is not to vote for the supreme court, but to vote in local state elections to have abortion rights codified in law. The courts shouldn't be writing law in the first place.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:32 AM
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I bet that most of these people live in states with the most pro-abortion laws.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:30 AM
1

You can vote at state level, right?
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:05 AM
0

This would make both men and women who are raped suffer by forcing them to keep pregnancies to completion In how many states would abortion for rape be declared illegal?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 07:00 PM
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If peaceful revolution is impossible, violent revolution is inevitable A peaceful answer is possible. Just have a majority vote to allow for abortion.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:57 PM
8

They are basically admitting that the foundations of their cult are so shaky that they wouldn't survive contact with forbidden knowledge from outsiders.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:52 PM
2

Given the sky high tuition in the US, studying abroad could be cheaper.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:45 PM
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Personally, I am in favor of permissive abortion laws, but I recognize that this is based on personal preferences, and not any kind of rational logic. There's a big grey area with conflicting rights between the mother, the fetus, the father, extended family, and even society at large. I can fully understand why someone would disagree with abortion, and I don't consider my arguments any more valid than theirs.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:38 PM
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people who thought only 2 genders exist Believing only 2 gender exists also doesn't deny trans people. But if you don’t think gender is a social construct; then you don’t believe in trans people No, that doesn't follow. Gender dysphoria happens when there's a conflict between innate feelings and social conditioning.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:29 PM
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Well, gender as a social construct is insane, but that doesn't deny trans people.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:01 PM
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Don't be ridiculous. People in this sub have different views on transgenderism, just like society at large.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:46 PM
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Euthanasia is currently illegal in all 50 states. That's a much clearer violation of bodily autonomy, because there's no fetus involved.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:42 PM
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The child exists from the moment it forms sentience. Sentience is not a on/off kind of thing. It's a gradual development, starting prenatally, and continuing well into childhood.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:17 PM
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A pretty good one. The job of the supreme court is to interpret the law, not write it. RvW leveraged a woman's "right to privacy", which was never written with the intention to have it apply to abortion.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:12 PM
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No, Roe v Wade was intellectually dishonest. This is just rectifying it.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:03 PM
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Women aren’t the ones drafting you They are voting for the legislation.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:02 PM
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Men's movements are trying to get more support for men's mental health, but the general public doesn't care enough.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:36 PM
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What is your suggestion for "look up personhood" that will provide a more useful definition? You do realise that Wikipedia is edited by paid feminist authors, don't you? In this case, the piece that I quoted from wikipedia does not support the feminist position, so I consider that objection irrelevant. You need to find a better guide for your moral position than a source like that! I did not express my moral position. My argument is that the moment of personhood is not agreed upon, so it leaves …
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:31 PM
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You use a lot of words to say "no".
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:11 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, yes.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:07 PM
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Religion should NEVER be involved in political decision making I have not read the full statement, but I really doubt religious reasoning was used.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:02 PM
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I know biology, but that has nothing to do with consent.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:55 PM
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Abortion rights are men's reproduction rights too. Not really, as men have no say in the decision to abort. They can only advise the mother.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:42 PM
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Plenty of US states will allow abortion. I think it was a huge mistake to repeal that law Roe v Wade was never a "law". The SCOTUS does not write laws, and should not abuse their power to create a substitute for a law.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:36 PM
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If the child is your biological child. You should be responsible for it, as you helped create it Except if the mother got pregnant without your consent.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:33 PM
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According to wikipedia: Defining personhood is a controversial topic in philosophy and law [...] Personhood continues to be a topic of international debate and has been questioned critically during the abolition of human and nonhuman slavery, in debates about abortion and in fetal rights and/or reproductive rights, in animal rights activism, in theology and ontology, in ethical theory, and in debates about corporate personhood and the beginning of human personhood.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:27 PM
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It's not so simple if you believe the fetus also has human rights.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 02:26 PM
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I think you've already dumbed it down way too far.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:58 PM
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Why does it matter if the woman changes her mind in the future? That’s her problem not the doctor She could sue the doctor later, and then it would be the doctor's problem. Even if she signs a paper taking full responsibility, she could argue that she wasn't properly informed of the consequences.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:14 PM
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That's not sexism, that's biology.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:10 PM
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There's no reason for the scare quotes around "side effects".
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:08 PM
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Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on one's sex If both sexes are treated the same, it's not sexism.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:07 PM
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Outdated gender norms are the reason why male are discriminated in nursing and teaching We used to have a lot more male teachers, so you can't blame outdated gender norms for that one.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 12:06 PM
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I'm pretty sure there are more than two different options.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 12:04 PM
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The bad guys are not going to do anything if there's a guy on the other side of the road anyway. I wouldn't be so sure. If you're walking down the street, and some guy walks next to you making sexual propositions, he's not going to be intimidated if I'm walking on the other side of the road where I can't see/hear exactly what's going on. I would assume you two know each other, and are just walking together.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 11:03 AM
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I'm not trying to argue. I'm just asking a question. Would you prefer that all the good men walk on the other side of the road, so that only the bad guys remain on your side?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 10:53 AM
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So if there's a 100 men, 99 of whom are decent and would not think about hurting you and might even protect you, and there's 1 bad guy. Do you want those 99 good men to stay far away so you can feel safer?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 10:41 AM
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No, it's not the dr's problem, and it's not my problem, and I'm not saying they are regretting it. You're misunderstanding my comment.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 09:30 AM
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It wouldn’t be the doctors problem even if they did regret it That's what a rational person would say, yes. But I'm not convinced that they would be so rational. Would you be okay... This has nothing to do with me.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 09:22 AM
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Gender/sex based differences in society exist, and many exist for a reason. Gendered sports exist because of biological differences between males and females. It's not a relic from the past. None of these things have anything to do with a "patriarchy".
/r/MensRights24/06/22 09:17 AM
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The alternative is simply ignore the feelings of others. They are not yours to control. Obviously, that doesn't mean doing anything on purpose to make them feel in danger. It just means that you ignore them, and focus on your own business.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 08:08 AM
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If we let all young women have their tubes tied, will they promise never to blame a doctor for not doing anything to stop them, when they get regrets at 30?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 07:35 AM
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Not our problem. No, but I meant it as an example to show the conflict between fear and actual risk. By telling honest and decent men to walk on the other side of the street, their fear may go down, but actual risk could go up. Is that what they want?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 07:01 AM
1

And how do you get consent?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:59 AM
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some variety of unwanted male agressive sexual behavior It's not very helpful to lump in catcalling or unwanted approach with violent rape at gunpoint. If you want to make a valid argument, you would have to split those up and provide proper statistical data for each. Also, it's not clear what you propose we do about it. How can we stop a violent guy with a gun from kidnapping someone? A self defense course isn't going to help. Asking strangers to risk their life without reward isn't going to he…
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:31 AM
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You'll get scorn and blame. Is that not enough reward for you?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:24 AM
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Honestly, if you see a guy getting beaten by a woman, will you really call the police to help him?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:23 AM
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The thing is that women have always demanded that men provided for them. This makes perfect sense of course, if the woman is responsible for childbirth, which makes it almost impossible for her to take care of herself. Men have taken that role of provider, but if you have two people where one provides for the other, you need stability, and that stability is best achieved if the provider is also in charge of the household. Somebody willing to provide is also more likely to provide in a good way, …
/r/MensRights24/06/22 05:16 AM
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You never fail to twist things so that men can be blamed.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 04:28 AM
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You risk that they'll forget about their own conflicts, and they'll both attack you.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:51 AM
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They are trying to cleverly play on words. They say that men's problems are caused by social norms and expectations, which is true for a large extend. But then the words they use for that set of social norms are 'patriarchy' and 'toxic masculinity', which cleverly contain an implicit blame of men, even though in reality, most of these social norms are enforced by women. If you try to argue that women need to help men with changes, they will then bounce the blame back to men, because, you see, it…
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:45 AM
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There's a difference between feeling safe and being safe. A man, who wasn't going to do anything, is not going to improve the lady's actual safety by walking on the other side of the road. In fact, he may make it worse by having her walk alone. So, the question is, do women want be be safer, or do they want to feel safer?
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:34 AM
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they were dependent on men, financially as well as in other ways. They were also relatively powerless and couldn't make a lot of decisions affecting their lives. You could be describing children, but we don't think children have it so bad.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 03:18 AM
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Even simpler is to use the 'Web Archives' extension for Chrome. Then you can just right click on a link, and get archive versions (or create one).
/r/MensRights23/06/22 06:07 PM
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https://archive.ph/20220617101451/https://nyti.ms/3xrhefu
/r/MensRights23/06/22 03:37 PM
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If that's all you can say, we're not impressed.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 10:52 AM
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I could easily make a post titled "Men have no humanity" on TwoX The only problem you would have is trying to keep track of all the awards you'd get.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 08:05 AM
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If you don't want to go through the pain and discomfort of pregnancy, and you don't want to take care of your own children, then don't have children. It's as simple as that.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 08:04 AM
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Men deserve to live whole hearted lives and not be rejected for being who they are You can live your life as you want, but you can't stop other people from judging or even rejecting you.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 07:05 AM
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Think of the recording device as a seatbelt.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 07:03 AM
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I don’t think there’s a difference between men and women mentally We disagree on that then. On average, men are more competitive and aggressive, women are more agreeable. Men are more interested in objects, women are more interested in people. This all comes from the fact that women carry the babies, and men don't. These differences (and there are many more) can be shown in scientific testing, and they even show up in newborn babies, as well as other animals like apes. Another thing to consider …
/r/MensRights23/06/22 05:23 AM
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Or it was a troll, trying to put this sub in bad light.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 05:12 AM
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Do you truly believe that men don't have any advantages over women in society? No, I don't think men have any significant unearned advantages. There are a lot of biased assumptions, based on general stereotypes. For instance, most people would put more trust in a male mechanic to fix their car, even if they don't know them. But they would also put more trust in a female stranger to look after their toddler for a moment. Many of those stereotypes are based on differences that do exist, and these …
/r/MensRights23/06/22 05:10 AM
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Equality means treating people equally. Agreed. But it is very common to look at outcomes, such as the number of male/female CEOs, and use that as evidence that people were not treated equally. Looking at outcomes is only valid if you assume men and women are equal.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 04:45 AM
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A minor lying about their age is not necessarily enough to get out of trouble. It all depends on the jurisdiction, and the details of exactly what happened.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 04:36 AM
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Maybe that's a good defense, yes. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know what kind of evidence can still be presented so many years later.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:31 PM
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It's pretty easy to figure out she was really 16 when their daughter was conceived, so it does legally count as statutory rape. We can argue whether that is sufficient grounds to reverse custody ruling.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 04:31 PM
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Even if that's true today, the male/female brain has evolved according to thousands of years prior arrangements. Most women today still benefit from male support, even if partially, even more when they are in a position where they would be struggling.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 11:39 AM
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Not ignorant. Maybe a bit exaggerated. Generally, women have much more options to find somebody that will take care of them. For men, it's very rare that a woman with a good job will pay for them to stay at home. The balance has shifted in modern times, but if you look at few generations ago, it was very common for the husband to be the sole breadwinner.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 10:38 AM
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So the woman is doing something in public? Yup could walk away. And she can follow you, while yelling & screaming and trying to hit you. Maybe you'll try running? She can scream "he tried to rape me". The fact that you're running away is a sign of guilt. Why would a strong man run away if he wasn't guilty?
/r/MensRights22/06/22 07:02 AM
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Maybe you could ask r/AskFeminists for a more complete/accurate feminist answer? No, the question and following debate would be removed. I guess that's also patriarchy? According to AskFeminists: the patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.", but women are not "largely excluded". Women are welcome to join the men in the rat race to the top. Most men don't make it, but you're welcome to try your luck. But then they claim:…
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:41 AM
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That's why we get banned from feminist subreddits simply for participating here. All facts counter to their cult must be suppressed with all force.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 05:39 AM
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Men have to take care of themselves, and need to take risks to stand out above other men. Most women don't have that struggle because they can find someone to take care of them. As a result of that struggle, some men do really well and up rich and powerful. If women want to have an equal share at the top, they should not get a free ride. They can join the rat race like all men. Start a business, and make it successful (or go bankrupt and end up homeless or hanging from a tree)
/r/MensRights22/06/22 04:46 AM
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It doesn't have to be new when the old issues are still valid.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 04:38 AM
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If you were worried a woman was going to hurt you, you could stop her It's not so straightforward. You can grab her hands, but then she can still kick and bite, and scream "let me go", and then people would still assume the guy is the attacker, and give him a good ass kicking. men have been taught to take more responsibility because of the strength advantage Then we should teach women to take more responsibility because of the social strength advantage.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 04:29 AM
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https://archive.ph/20220621124053/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feature/crossing-the-divide-do-men-really-have-it-easier-these-transgender-guys-found-the-truth-was-more-complex/
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:57 PM
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Yes, you can always find anecdotes, and when people tell those anecdotes, you always only hear one side of the story.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:14 PM
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Physical strength doesn't account for much when you get mugged by a guy with a gun.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:32 PM
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I don't think twice about walking home at night in the dark But that's not because it's safer for men to walk alone at night.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 03:34 PM
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I agree that we should not have hate speech laws, but if we're going to have them, we shouldn't make exceptions based on sex.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 02:53 PM
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I don't know if they are the general thoughts of trans men, but I'm sure they resonate with a lot of cis men. It's not cherry picked. This is pretty much everyday life of a man.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 02:51 PM
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Crippling financial problems, prison sentence, loss of child custody/visitation. It also depends on how much enjoyment you get out of life on a normal basis. If every day is just a miserable fight for survival, and you have nothing to look forward to, then why bother? There's nothing intrinsically valuable about life.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 11:17 AM
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the only problem suicide does solve is having a terminal illness that causes suffering Why just a terminal illness? Why not any other kind of suffering for which you don't see a solution?
/r/MensRights21/06/22 10:01 AM
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No. As a man, you cannot punch a woman, unless you want to get beaten up by a bunch of white knights. You can also not punch a random man, because he might be stronger, better trained, or carry a weapon, and they will not hesitate to strike back with full force with could easily be lethal. If a man complains about being touched inappropriately, he will often be ignored, or even mocked. As a woman, you can get away with punching men a lot of times. Often, men will be fearful to reciprocate, or th…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 09:22 AM
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Also, as a woman you can be rude to a big strong man without repercussions. As an average man, being rude to a big strong man will get your ass kicked.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 09:17 AM
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That's totally wrong. You have no idea what it's like to be a man. Men are constantly judged and are in constant competition with other men. The difference is that men, on the whole, don't complain about their problems. As a man, showing signs of weakness or struggle has big negative effects. For instance, in a meeting, men interrupt each other all the time, but a man would almost never say "stop interrupting me", because that's admitting defeat, and would only make it worse. Instead, you find o…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 06:54 AM
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If men were truly an oppressing class, we wouldn't even be talking about a law against misogyny, and she wouldn't be able to get her insane drivel published. Abuse of current laws is mostly done by women. Even if you believe that false allegations are relatively rare, they are still overwhelmingly done by women. No man would be able to get a woman convicted of domestic abuse or sexual assault without irrefutable evidence. We would certainly not believe his word against hers.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 06:03 AM
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There's no oppressing class. It's also unlikely that it would be abused, since the court and public opinion are already heavily biased towards women. Look how much trouble Johnny Depp went through before he could make a successful case against Amber Heard, and even now there are still feminists that support her.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:49 AM
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I'm sure you've been around long enough in this subreddit to see long lists of privileges that women have. A few basic ones are that men's problems are simply getting ignored, or blamed on men, whereas women's problems get highlighted. That even happens when men's problems are objectively worse. Why don't you name a male privilege?
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:45 AM
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She is literally claiming that hate speech against men should be allowed by law because they are the evil oppressor.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:41 AM
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The biggest example is the claim that gender is a hierarchy with men on top as the oppressor. Women already get more privileges than men.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:37 AM
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It's impressive that someone can string together so much drivel and have it published.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:16 AM
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It's not a dog whistle. If there's some kind of observed gender difference, part of it could be biological, and part could be discrimination. It's important to understand the difference. If someone claims that a gender difference is due to discrimination, we should examine their claims, and fix any real issues they can show. The wrong solution is to assume discrimination, and then come with sweeping "solutions" such as mandatory gender quota.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:50 AM
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Women just have less interest in STEM, that's all. People don't want to admit that, so they blame on the way they are treated. Sure, you can find anecdotes of women with real issues at the work place, but you can always find anecdotes to support your case if you look hard enough.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:43 AM
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I’d hope that a professional wouldn’t kick a man while he’s down. They do when they blame men for their own problems, which is not uncommon.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 03:35 AM
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You can commit suicide without a mental health problem if you think it is a logical solution to your problems.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 03:32 AM
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due mostly to nurture rather than nature It's mostly due to nature. Success in nature means creating offspring. Because the female carries the child, she has a much larger investment. She doesn't want the male to impregnate her and then run away leaving her with all the work. So the female is very selective to pick a good male who can provide for her and the child. This means that men are more competitive with each other, and more caring for the women. A crying woman gets help, because the men w…
/r/MensRights21/06/22 03:27 AM
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If you sign up to be used as cheap entertainment, don't complain when you're used as cheap entertainment. This applies equally to men and women.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 03:26 PM
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Because a man needs to prove that he can provide better than other men, so there's a drive to do something extraordinary.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 03:25 PM
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There is no single answer that will be right in all circumstances, so just ignore, don't make eye contact, and walk straight to your car.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 03:15 PM
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Then agree to call it "sexual abuse that's just as bad as rape"
/r/MensRights20/06/22 01:23 PM
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The Gold Logie is an award given to the "most popular personality on Australian television", not the "hardest working personality". Deal with it.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 07:58 AM
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Women definitely get more positive attention. When women don't get positive attention, we respect them when they create drama about it.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 07:18 AM
14

"How does it feel to be same gender as the people who fuck Donald Trump?"
/r/MensRights20/06/22 07:00 AM
2

It's not 1:1, because men are treated a lot worse than white people.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 06:54 AM
2

If you need a poor analogy to make a point, then you didn't have a good point.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 05:15 AM
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all ideological considerations must contribute to understanding the feminist perspective In other words, real criticism isn't welcome. it's clear that people from a subreddit about "Men's Rights" are going to violate that rule That's not clear at all. According to the publicly advertised feminist perspective, they want equality between the sexes, and equality is perfectly compatible with men's rights. They are carefully wrapping a lot of misandry in an "equality" package, and are afraid to be ex…
/r/MensRights20/06/22 04:32 AM
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If you don't want to argue, then it's simple enough to downvote, and the reaction will disappear from view. What they really want is to police their group, so that nobody else in their group gets convinced by logic and facts that go against the cult narrative.
/r/MensRights20/06/22 03:47 AM
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Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 07:58 PM
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What's really going on is that women are not attracted to weak or unsuccessful men, but they don't want to say that out loud.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:22 PM
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It's straight up child abuse.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:05 PM
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Like being touched by your boss and threatened with being fired if you said anything That happens to men too, but they don't say anything for fear of getting fired.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 10:24 AM
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every source on the internet says that over 90% of victims are women That's because harassment is only counted if the victim is female.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 10:22 AM
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Why don't you try to have a normal conversation without personal attacks and swear words? Just answer the question, and then take it from there.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 05:58 AM
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The new kind of society you want will suck harder for women. Men will just go their own way.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 05:51 AM
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I think the larger issue is that there's a growing group of single bitter women, and single bitter men, who could have been much happier together. Bringing those groups together is mostly a matter of young women picking different guys. Now, that doesn't mean they need to be less picky, but rather that they need to be picky in a different way. Go after the nerdy silent guy that will make a good husband in 10 years, and not the hot confident one that will dump you next week.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 04:52 AM
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Truth is, if you want a relationship, you can't be picky, at least not when looking for the same kind of qualifications that everybody else is looking for. If all women want a guy that's tall, good looking, intelligent, ambitious, confident, and owns a nice house & car, so that only the top 1% of men meet those criteria, then 99% of women should be prepared to never find such a guy.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 04:43 AM
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A real tradcon wouldn't say "they are terrible people"
/r/MensRights19/06/22 04:34 AM
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Maybe you don't understand. I'm talking proportions. If it used to be 10% creeps, 90% decent guys approaching women, and all the decent guys stop approaching, it's still the same 10% creeps. But from the woman's perspective, she's getting approached by 100% creeps.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 04:11 AM
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Doubling down on a failed solution, I see.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 03:59 PM
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Did I get drunk last night because of the patriarchy? Short answer: No Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
/r/MensRights18/06/22 01:19 PM
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Spelling rules are a tool of the oppressor.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 10:24 AM
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If you check out the 2X subreddit, which started as just a group for women, not feminists, you can see it's been taken over completely by extreme feminists. If you go there, and try to post something moderate that goes against the extremists, you get banned. The extremists may be a minority, they do have powerful control over the narrative.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 10:23 AM
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Because the decent men are trying hard not to be creepy. So, if he sees an attractive women, he isn't going to approach, because he was told that this is creepy behavior. The only men that do approach her, are those that don't care about being creepy.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 07:05 AM
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Some (decent) men are more conscious about how their actions might be perceived as creepy, so they hesitate to make contact. The less decent men continue their behavior as before. Women are now confronted with a higher percentage of indecent men, so they complain even more about creepy men. The decent men withdraw even more, and the spiral continues.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 06:46 AM
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Is nobody guiding these boys? They are being guided by success. They wouldn't do those kinds of nasty things if it didn't work on a regular basis.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 06:39 AM
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The people here said average pay. Not ridiculous 6 figures You should ask what exact amount they mean with "average pay". I wouldn't be shocked if the answer had 6 figures.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 04:43 AM
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I would want to have children with a man who makes more than me I fully respect that attitude. Makes a lot of sense. But then it also makes sense that the mother stays at home to take care of the child.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 04:41 AM
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Keep in mind that this is just what was publicly spoken. When dealing with a real life situation, I'm sure the standards will be raised a bit more.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 04:37 AM
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Would you be able to get a delicious, gourmet steak for cheap? I personally believe it's pretty standard to have a good dinner on a date. There are plenty of delicious meals that you can make without expensive steak. Cooking together is a great way to spend time with a date.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 04:36 AM
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want to have a child? gotta pay a lot of money for that Who's going to take care of the child if both parents are focused on their careers?
/r/MensRights18/06/22 04:27 AM
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It is sad seeing so many comments, but at the same time, it makes me realize that there's a lot of growing support and recognition for men's issues, which is the first step towards change.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 03:49 AM
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And even others that are to do with physical displays and beauty (which may just be another indicator of genetic fitness / desirability). A simple example is the male duck who gets colored feathers in the mating season and goes back to brown for the rest of the year. Having colored feathers is harmful for the duck ("toxic masculinity" ?), but they do it in order to attract a mate.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 03:47 AM
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This phenomenon parallels the workplace where women earn less than men, with a stable wage gap currently estimated at around 80 cents on the dollar I haven't read the rest of the study yet, but it's a bad sign when the researchers unironically propagate the myth of the wage gap.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 07:11 AM
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There's an evolutionary biological explanation. It starts with the fact that pregnancy and childcare takes a large toll on the female, especially in ancient times. The female strategy is then to pick a good male that will help to provide and share the load. Because the female wants to pick the best male, this creates a competition between males. This then leads to men becoming higher risk takers, and becoming less agreeable, and more competitive. Men taking higher risks means that some men hit t…
/r/MensRights17/06/22 05:24 AM
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Also, even if you consider a career more important, nobody forces you to have kids. When you do decide to have kids, and you still want to keep your career, you can make any kind of arrangement that you want to make that work. There's no law that forbids people from going against any kind of gender norm they don't like.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:53 AM
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It's even worse. When an individual woman is attacked for her personal wrongdoings, we'll hear claims of "misogyny".
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:32 AM
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Male writers are getting much more revenue than female writers. That fact alone doesn't say much. You have to demonstrate an unfair bias in the system. It could be that the male writers are writing more material that appeals to a bigger group of readers.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:30 AM
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"should be dismantled" contradicts " every man's and woman's destiny left to their own choices"
/r/MensRights17/06/22 04:19 AM
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When you leave people to their own choices, some will create monopolies and megacorps. Dismantling successful companies goes against libertarianism.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 03:52 AM
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if you think we need to be better than feminists, there's a lot of work to do Despite the misogyny and incel rhetoric, MRM is already better than feminists. The misandry among feminists is much worse. It is just generally accepted to hate men that you no longer notice.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 03:37 AM
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This feminist dogma that you can hate feminism but not women is just another feminist double standard, that's all... Most women are not feminists, and quite a few women hate feminism.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 03:34 AM
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There are various ways to deal with children, and if none of these work, then you have the option of not having children. Feminists like to pretend that women don't have agency, and that life is something that happens to them.
/r/MensRights17/06/22 03:27 AM
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There is a reason that the concept of the man-child or Peter Pan Syndrom exists. Overbearing helicopter moms?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 06:22 PM
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Sadly having children is still a dent in a woman’s career. The solution is simple. Find an unemployed man who will stay with the children while you pursue your career. Oh? You don't want that...
/r/MensRights16/06/22 05:28 PM
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I thought most of the covid deaths were men. Since when do they care about those?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 03:38 PM
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It's best not to post anything on those subreddits. It's a waste of time, and it only gives them ammunition to have the men's rights subreddits banned. Any feminist in the mood for an honest discussion can come over here.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 12:36 PM
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There's also no option for not saving anyone. The poll also don't describe the circumstances. In reality, people react differently than they claim in a poll. For instance, if several people are watching and capable of helping, people will wait for somebody else to do it.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 11:22 AM
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It's only a huge win for men if they don't rush to a guilty verdict.
/r/MensRights16/06/22 11:06 AM
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Women are more selective, so what you see is that 5 women are all chasing the 1 guy. That one guy then has sex with all 5 of them. He's having a great time, and is not settling down. The 5 women are getting easy sex, but no commitment. The other 4 men are largely ignored. They're not getting sex or a relationship. These men are getting bitter and uninstall the app. Some of them would have been good relationship material. After getting a bunch of sex with hot players, the women are getting bitter…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 08:59 AM
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More talks about mental health awareness should be done in schools because a bigger impact on the awareness can be created if men have been exposed to the idea that they can be open about their mental health issues from a young age Most of these articles imagine that the solution to improving men's mental health is the men opening up more. Very little thought is given to what happens afterwards. For example, the article talks about how economic downturn causes financial problems, and these cause…
/r/MensRights16/06/22 07:35 AM
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Who's complaining?
/r/MensRights16/06/22 04:58 AM
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Animals have similar preferences. Who teaches them? Why do we hear so many times that women are complaining about being attracted to "bad boys" they know are not good for them, but they still find hard to resist?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 06:24 PM
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Hiding emotions is unhealthy. That is well-documented. Even if we accept that as true, that's too 1-dimensional. The reason men hide their emotions is because it makes them more successful in life. Having success can fix the true cause of these emotions, which then improves health. use violence to get something he wants. How about if he slaps someone who has been bullying him for weeks, and complaining to adults only made it worse?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:33 PM
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What if he prefers to hide his emotions, or actually likes certain games or movies, or use physical domination? Will you try to 'correct' him? What happens if he gets older, and he discovers that what you call 'toxic' is actually a set of behaviors that help him to become more successful in life?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:20 PM
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That's not very helpful. There's no magic button that we can flip. So where do we start?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:11 PM
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Let's rephrase then. Who should be responsible for making the changes?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:09 PM
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That's not true. Most women have preference for masculine men, whether they admit or not. That's how we got here in the first place. Edit: I just saw this great example. https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/vcrbuh/tifu_when_i_invited_my_gf_to_adult_world/
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:08 PM
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So who do you blame?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:38 PM
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The solution of course, is to stop pushing gender roles on men. Something we all want. You'll first have to demonstrate that this is actually what we all want.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:38 PM
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Or it would reduce single motherhood by removing the incentive to have a child in a failing relationship.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:09 PM
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There's a wide range of possibilities between looking like a scruffy hermit and a simping slave to women. You can get a good haircut and shave, and dress nicely, without compromising your personality or your own desires. It just gives you more options.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 10:38 AM
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A lot of the female perspective is heavily distorted by the men they pick on dating apps based on superficial hotness.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 10:34 AM
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Basically act like human beings and not some hyper aggressive brute Are you saying that boys on average are less likely to act like human beings?
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:37 AM
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Depending on the quality of evidence required, it may even be the case that part of the "proven true" cases are in fact false allegations.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:33 AM
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That wasn't him, but his dog. The dog was upset because it stopped on a bee, and then shit the bed in a panic.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:26 AM
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But in Senate hearings, the Google representatives will declare under oath that their algorithms do not have human bias.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:23 AM
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Related: we have a bunch of Moroccan immigrant owned stores where I live, as well as a sizeable Moroccan population. I've noticed that the Moroccan-owned stores always have Moroccan men working there. Never a white person, but also never a girl. The Moroccan girls all work at the "white" stores, outnumbering every other demographic group. I've never heard any politician say that there's a problem.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 05:20 AM
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I don't blame anyone for a making this movie, but in return, I expect not to get blamed for not wanting to watch it.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:52 AM
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Some women call me misogynists because I said I love pretty women. Misogyny is hatred for women. You don't hate the ugly ones, you're just not attracted to them. Argument ends there.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:47 AM
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Feminists are contributing wholeheartedly to "toxic masculinity" by calling non-conforming men weak, incels, fragile. They proudly display MALE TEARS mugs.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:44 AM
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We can still have the men going into battle, and have the media write about them in a more positive way, and praise them for taking the hardest hit. The problem is the feminist dominated media wants to have men do the hardest work, but then praise the women for being so strong.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:38 AM
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It is the structure that favours men over women No, even if the structure puts men in leadership roles, that doesn't mean it favors men. That assumption is a very common mistake. You can be a leader that divides the tasks, but then give the hardest task to yourself. For many men, that's a perfectly normal thing to do, and it makes for better & more stable leadership. If you put the person in charge who's physically weaker, they have to assign the hardest jobs to somebody else, which leads to a m…
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:34 AM
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Still overwhelmed by approaching some guy about being against feminism I would try to put a positive spin on it. Find something to advocate for, instead of against. There's much less chance of hostility if you present a positive attitude.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:23 AM
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It isn’t “an individual man will be paid more than a woman for being a man” But that's the only thing that matters. If a deep-sea welder makes much more money than a hotel receptionist, that's perfectly fair, even if there's a gender difference between those jobs.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:50 AM
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Those are the hardest to notice. Something cannot simultaneously be hard to notice as well as being the source of all evil.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:48 AM
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The macho mentality is a requirement to be fully accepted as a man. No man wants to go into war to die, but at least there's a chance that you actually win, and come out alive as a hero. If you admit you're too afraid to fight, you're guaranteed to lose.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:46 AM
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More men in high power does not prove the existence of a "glass ceiling". In many cases, there's no ceiling, but women are just not into climbing the stairs to go up.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:43 AM
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the myth that men cannot be good parents. The other day I was thinking about different parenting styles between my wife and I. She's always been much more involved. I've been more distant. Does that mean she's a better parent? I don't think so. I give my kids room to do whatever they want, even if it's something that I think will fail, because I want to encourage them to try new things, as well as learn to deal with failures. I like to watch from a distance to make sure they don't do something r…
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:39 AM
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To be fair, OP could be a 2X poster himself. It's just a random anecdote made to enrage people, without sources or context, leaving out all the important details for us to judge what really happened.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:28 AM
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I don't see the problem if people improve their looks so they have more success at finding a date, if that's what they want. That doesn't mean they are insecure. women will find something else about your physical looks to whine about Not true. Plenty of ordinary looking men have found a partner.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:24 AM
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the person was asleep so could not possibly consent Some people give consent for non consensual sex. Also, plenty of people in a relationship have enough trust they allow their partners to choose for them.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:08 AM
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"trying to date up" does not contradict "willing to date down"
/r/MensRights14/06/22 05:13 PM
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Little boys are easier to control.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 05:10 PM
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Menslib thinks they can solve men's problems by blaming them.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 05:09 PM
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Men rarely get sympathy for ranting.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 05:08 PM
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I have two children, one boy and one girl, now both well adjusted young adults of 20 and 22 years. I worked full time, my wife did most of the household chores, but I helped with diaper changes, getting the kids dressed & fed, and cooking meals. Babies sleep a lot, and when they get older, they go to preschool/school. We both played with the kids, and they also played together. When they were young, they were breastfed, and slept in our bed, so it was very easy. When they got older, we supplemen…
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:43 PM
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It comes into trouble when it’s overanalysed and applied to unrealistic scenarios Just browsing r/sex, I see "unrealistic" scenarios all the time. If the consequence of a misstep is a prison sentence, I wouldn't call it "overanalyzing".
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:24 PM
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Regret has nothing to do with it Of course it does. You can be in one state of mind when you agree to have sex, maybe after a bit of convincing by your partner, and you can be in a different state of mind the next day. Everybody has these mood swings at least a little bit, and some people have them worse. If both are drunk, then obviously not unless again, one is pressuring or forcing the other If somebody loses some inhibitions while drunk, and does something they would never do when sober, why…
/r/MensRights14/06/22 12:48 PM
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An hour of chores seems reasonable. Of course they need constant attention, but that's not "work". Some adults need constant attention too, should we count that as well ?
/r/MensRights14/06/22 12:37 PM
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The same people calling the child a victim would be claiming that there's no problem with children raised by women who choose to be single moms.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 08:40 AM
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The word "victim" should only be used after the verdict, not while the investigation is still ongoing. Until then, the proper words are "accuser" and "accused"
/r/MensRights14/06/22 06:38 AM
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If you really want to find those sources it doesn’t suffice to click a link. So there's been no published articles calling out radical feminists from the inside?
/r/MensRights14/06/22 06:17 AM
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society has seemingly forgotten about recognizing the mental health of men Oh, they are not forgotten. Every day is blame-a-man-day.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 05:22 AM
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The beauty of the show is that the main characters are flawed in various ways.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 04:20 AM
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She should still have the millions that she had pledged to donate.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:20 AM
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How many people are still influenced by that difference today? Even if somebody's great-great-grandfather had property, there's no guarantee that this was managed correctly, and handed down the generations. Every generation, that difference gets more diffused, as people have their own opportunity to gain or to lose.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:19 AM
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without her consent- y'know, rape! If sex without consent is rape, then regret after drunken sex is also rape, because drunk people cannot consent.
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:07 AM
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How do you know they hate them just for being high achievers, and not because they are stuck up and arrogant?
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:05 AM
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I've raised two kids, and it didn't take 24 hours a day. We never iron the clothes. Plants need 1 minute per day. Children slept in bed with us when they were babies. At some point they could feed themselves without my wife waking up. Diaper change takes 5 minutes. All together, a reasonably behaved small child takes maybe 1 hour extra per day for chores. I am complaining for the women that have to do all the household chores and take care of the children. AND they also have to work outside of t…
/r/MensRights14/06/22 03:03 AM
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Heterosexual women’s natural response to solid and good male leadership is positive Yes, that's true. I was talking about direct perks that you give yourself because you're the leader. Like a CEO giving himself a nice big corner office. A good leader in a household does not give himself something extra at the cost of other family members.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 05:23 PM
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We are intimidated by confident women I was just thinking about that earlier today. Male confidence comes in a large part about truly not giving a shit what other people are thinking. This is something that is more natural for men. Men are risk takers, often loners, and are less concerned about fitting in social groups. If you separate yourself from the group, you have a chance to stick out, and make a name for yourself. Male conflicts are often out in the open. If you win such conflict, your st…
/r/MensRights13/06/22 05:19 PM
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Very true. A lot of women do not realize that the hard power of leadership is not by itself a enviable job. Making difficult decisions can be hard work, and you're accountable for all mistakes, meaning that sometimes you have to work extra to correct them. If you wield the power fairly, not just for your personal benefit, but with a goal to provide the best for the entire family, there are no perks associated with that power.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:56 PM
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Theres an number of different currents of feminism. The radicals overshadow any well meaning feminist. If you don't believe, go to any feminist forum, and post something about wanting true equality for both women and men. Ask the feminists, as balanced and careful as you can, to be allies for some men's issue. See how many upvotes and awards you get.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:48 PM
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The answer is communication. If you're unhappy with the division of labor in your family, bring it up, and do something about it. Either way, household chores should only take 1-2 hours/day, depending on size of the house and family. If one person is working full time, the other one can do all the household duties, and still get the better end of the deal.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:36 PM
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There are quite literally laws that require you to verbally communicate whether you want to have sex or not. As long as a verbal or non verbal “yes” was initiated, there is no problem In the first sentence you say that verbal communication is required by law. In the second sentence, non verbal communication is good enough. So which is it? the woman gave no verbal or non-verbal consent. We don't know the history. There could have been talk about sex during sleep, and the guy could have gotten the…
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:10 PM
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The problem is using a single word "rape" for everything between a slight tinge of regret after a night of drunken sex, and somebody dragging you in an alley, and ripping your clothes off. Making a distinction between those things does not make one a "rape apologist".
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:02 PM
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But the guy in this post did not do it as a mistake Depends on how they've communicated beforehand. Some people are into that kind of stuff, and based on what she said before, he might have assumed she would want it. Either way, it's crazy to have a very fine line between "that was fun, let's do that again", and "you're going to prison for a year" If it's a fine line between actions, there should also be a fine line between consequences.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 03:54 PM
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How can someone reliably recognize "non verbal consent" ? If someone honestly misinterprets a sign of non verbal consent, is that rape?
/r/MensRights13/06/22 03:49 PM
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Image two people who mutually take small steps, touching and kissing, and taking off clothes, until they're both in bed having sex. Nobody ever said "yes". According to your definition that's rape?
/r/MensRights13/06/22 03:44 PM
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If I touch your shoulder in the street because you dropped your wallet, and I did not get consent for touching, is that rape?
/r/MensRights13/06/22 03:38 PM
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And invariably, when gender or race or some other factor is considered, it's not being done equally. I've noticed people are very hesitant to call out 'racism' when dealing with black people molesting asians or jews. When a wife kills her husband with a butcher knife, the assumption is that she was defending herself. When a man does the same to his wife, the assumption is that he's an abuser.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 03:33 PM
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Our biggest goal in life is to create offspring. Everything else is just a means to get to that goal. I've read that in the history of humanity, only about 25% of all men managed to get offspring (compared to nearly all fertile women). Men are told that they have no worth if they aren’t in some sexual relationship. If you view it from an evolutionary biology viewpoint, not being in a sexual relationship is the same as being dead.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 02:19 PM
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I think the biggest threat is that the woman can break off the relationship if she isn't happy. Even if there are no children or money involved, it will be harder for the man to find a new partner, or at least that is the perception that both have. Men are programmed to make their wives safe and comfortable.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 02:06 PM
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Also, the claim that "women are being assaulted, beaten,... murdered simply because they are women" is not true, just as it isn't true that men are being assaulted, beaten and murdered simply for being men. People are abused and murdered for a bunch of different reasons, often having little to do with their gender.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 01:45 PM
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Self improvement sounds nice, but it's very hard to improve things like confidence. Even diet is hard. But even if you magically improve yourself, it just means you're just swapping places with another guy. Are you going to tell the other guy to improve as well?
/r/MensRights13/06/22 12:08 PM
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There is plenty of work where you need to lift lighter loads all day long. Go try brick laying for 8 hours, or break down a wall with 15 kg pneumatic hammer. Or even try to swing a 3 kg axe. It's not just about being able to lift that one time. For each woman that can do that kind of work you can probably find 50 men.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 11:48 AM
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Not "weak" but "weaker". Sure, women can do physical work, but not the same intensity as men.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 10:55 AM
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We had a couple of lessons from our biology teacher, mostly about sexually transmitted diseases, various forms of birth control, and other useful stuff, mostly appropriate for our age group where some kinds were starting to be sexually active. I don't remember much about non-hetero sex. It probably got mentioned, but it didn't get overwhelming amount of attention.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 10:53 AM
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You're first saying this: we aren’t weaker than you And now this: I’m not saying women and men have equal physical strength These two things are contradicting.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 10:45 AM
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Child care and household chores are basically as hard as before Not true. We have more technology now. Dishwashers, washing machines, dryers, microwaves, roombas, pre-made foods, central heating & AC, better built homes, better quality detergents and other cleaning products, synthetic diapers. Household chores have become easier and easier.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 07:33 AM
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The example she used has stayed with me: he would, she said, “gladly” take the kids to a birthday party at the weekend, but it wouldn’t occur to him in a million years that they had to turn up with gifts, which needed buying and wrapping. Stuff like this is always framed as if the husband is too dumb or too incapable to arrange gifts. It is accepted as dogma that a birthday party needs exchanging of gifts, and men are failures for not following the rules. Reality is that men simply care less abo…
/r/MensRights13/06/22 05:49 AM
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Finally, I would encourage everyone who is subbed to MensRights to sub to TwoXChromosomes as well Can you talk to the 2X mods, please, and ask to let us in? After, as you say: feminism is about dismantling patriarchal structures, which as I discussed earlier, is the same goal as men's right's, and is something that benefits all genders There must be a simple misunderstanding why MRAs get banned from 2X, and it would be nice if you could fix that.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 05:02 AM
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Whenever they admit that women have a privilege, they say "but we deserve it".
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:52 AM
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The thread says there are 44 comments, but I only see 5, and none of these discuss the topic.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:39 AM
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You're delusional if you think men and women have equal physical strength. Just look at sports records. Women's world record for 800 meter is 1:53 set in 1983 (most likely with testosterone enhancement) The US boys high school record is 1:46
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:24 AM
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Should the descendants of slaves be punished for being descendants of slaves? What are you talking about? In what way are people being punished for being descendants of slaves?
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:08 AM
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The only time he washed up is when somebody knocked him out, threw him overboard, and he washed up on a small island. Of course he was drunk, because he only had rum.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:01 AM
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From bell hooks: Males as a group have and do benefit the most from patriarchy, from the assumption that they are superior to females and should rule over us. But those benefits have come with a price. In return for all the goodies men receive from patriarchy, they are required to dominate women, to exploit and oppress us, using violence if they must to keep patriarchy intact. Clearly, she's saying that men dominate, exploit and oppress women, using violence if needed. (as a side note, she never…
/r/MensRights13/06/22 03:53 AM
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I'm not an expert, but here they are talking about "decriminalizing". If the license is paid to the govt, it's no longer just a civil matter. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10555712/boris-johnson-decriminalise-bbc-lincene-fee-non-payment/
/r/MensRights13/06/22 03:31 AM
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If people only get a fine, then I don't see why it matters who opens the door. The fine goes to the family.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 03:08 PM
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Getting a criminal conviction because you didn't pay your license fee is crazy, of course, not just because women open the door more.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 02:51 PM
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Let's just assume both genders pollute at the same level No, let's just ignore the gender when it comes to pollution, and look at how we can improve things. The whole study is tiresome.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 01:46 PM
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Last Star Wars I watched was 'the force awakens', and it was a bad movie. I stopped watching at that point. Part (but not all) of the reason it was bad is because of the Rey character being too good. Is that because she was a woman, or because the story just sucked? I have no idea, but I don't know that Hollywood is ready for a flawed female lead.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 12:33 PM
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Most people are okay with minorities and women, provided that the movie is good. People are watching movies to be entertained, not lectured.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 12:13 PM
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Humans created society, so humans can't complain about society.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 10:12 AM
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It's a similar tactic with protesters who do stupid stuff like blocking traffic without a permit, and then cry when they get hurt.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 08:30 AM
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No, this is what the article says: "Women will be delayed in their entry into the workforce. The immediate effect will be an accentuated decline in the size of our local workforce, and a reduction of household incomes,” he said. But that reasoning applies equally to men. And like I said before, the decline of the local workforce and reduction of household income can be neutralized by freeing up an equal amount of men. This can be done by lottery, but also based on personal circumstances, or they…
/r/MensRights12/06/22 07:40 AM
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Sure, if we want to go with the argument that men make better soldiers, then a lot of people will agree. But then let's say that out loud, instead of blaming some BS economic unfairness reason. And let's also recognize that women are therefore privileged to not be expected to give their life as cannon fodder.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 07:29 AM
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The economic impact can be neutralized by reducing the amount of enlisted men.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 07:02 AM
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The flowers themselves may be a minor issue, but the fact that somebody went out of their way to skip the guy is a problem. Normalizing soft misandry is worth fighting against.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 04:00 AM
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None of the adults involved should ever have been responsible for taking care of a child. What a disaster.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 03:25 AM
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Thankfully there are still plenty of good old movies to watch. If Hollywood wants to continue to dig their own grave, I'll gladly hand them a shovel.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 03:17 AM
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when normalizing for household income and early exposure to violence. But is that valid? If fatherlessness contributes to lower household income, and more exposure to violence, then you can't just normalize those things away.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 03:12 AM
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they "choose" to date someone who is financially lower You mean: the women choose to date someone who is financially higher. It's the women who have options.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 06:21 PM
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Most women would rather stay home and do the childcare, and let their men go out and do the hard work. I wouldn't use the word 'lazy', but it's not a very hard job. I'm sure women can find an unemployed man willing to stay at home, play with the kids, and cook dinner, but hard working women often want an "ambitious" man.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:30 PM
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They don't do dangerous jobs because they love the danger. For many men, it's a necessity to survive.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:49 PM
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When women go to a women's march, or talk on social media, they only see other women agreeing with them. Maybe they don't realize that other women even exist.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:23 PM
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Exactly. Stop trying to please or impress anyone. Pick your own goals that focus on your own growth and happiness. Try not to get bitter about society, but instead just ignore anything that isn't helpful for you. Do the things you love. Maybe you'll run into other people with similar interest and make a connection with them, but if that doesn't happen, at least you were doing something you loved.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 10:24 AM
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It's about power, and the getting of power, and the exerting of power. They don't realize the power is only short term, and then it will backfire horribly as men will start to either become violent, or withdraw from society.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 08:19 AM
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Somehow, they think that women are not capable of false accusations for personal gain, even though from their own experience, most women realize that other women can be mean like that.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 08:00 AM
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No, it was a justification. Using the word "mansplaining" is misandrist. So, merely saying that "OP thinks his former friend is misandrist" instead of agreeing that this former friend is misandrist makes it a justification.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 07:38 AM
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A range of studies show approximately 5% of rape allegations are proven false A range of studies show that less than 5% of people are murdered, so why are we prosecuting people for murder anyway?
/r/MensRights11/06/22 07:32 AM
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A bit of anxiety here and there triggers behaviour change, it makes you feel a bit uncomfortable, and it makes you question your behaviour. Yes, it makes men question their behavior of trying to date women. Is that what they want?
/r/MensRights11/06/22 07:30 AM
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But does it affect your life in any way? Not my life personally, but it affects the lives of young men, contributing to the next generation becoming disenfranchised, and that does affect us all.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 07:27 AM
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This does: OP thinks his former friend is misandrist because his former friend calls him out for being patronizing and condescending when he doesn’t think he is. Choosing to use the word 'mansplaining' instead of perfectly good gender neutral alternatives is misandrist. When you say 'stop mansplaining', you're really saying "stop being patronizing and condescending, like men usually are"
/r/MensRights11/06/22 07:17 AM
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After all, the word “mansplain” is as you’ve described. No, it is meant to insult men.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 07:15 AM
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They're trying to manipulate men into being their servants, but then they dump him because he's a spineless servant. As a man, simply refuse that shit. If she leaves you for standing up for yourself, you've dodged a bullet.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 07:08 AM
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What if talking doesn't work? What if a boy goes to the teacher to complain he's bullied, but the teacher doesn't stop the bullying? What if a boy is sad and depressed because he gets ignored due to his clumsy social skills. Girls make fun of him for being a "weirdo creepy kid". What can he solve by talking, if nobody cares about him? Often, violence is a perfectly good solution. Many kids that got bullied have been able to put a stop to it by punching the bully in the face one time. Boys and gi…
/r/MensRights11/06/22 06:55 AM
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No, you need to stop and realize that doubling down on bad teaching methods is not the answer you're looking for. By constantly blaming boys from a young age, you're only making the problems worse. The solution is not to blame them even harder. We need to raise them up, teach them proper masculinity, treat them fairly and equally, and give them a sense of justice.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:51 AM
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Every sentence out of her mouth is sexist. Maybe she should start fixing that first.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:28 AM
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But he can work on that. He can explain to her that her comments were inappropriate and hurtful, and that she crossed a boundary that he doesn't want her to cross again. By saying that (and meaning it), he's showing that he's not disposable, and that she should be lucky to have him.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:26 AM
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But she never said that she thought she could get away with cheating. She said she thought he wouldn't cheat on her. If she trusts him not to cheat, even for the wrong reasons, that's pretty good for the guy. Much less drama.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 05:23 AM
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you don't want to know her true feelings and have respect for you Correct. I realize that I'm not perfect. I have good qualities and bad qualities, and I would much prefer that my wife hides her true feelings about my bad qualities. She very much respects me as a package deal, and that's good enough for me. I do the same to her. If she asks me about how her hair looks, I find something nice to say. I don't tell her the cold hard truth, because there's nothing to gain by doing so.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 04:02 AM
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I agree. In a normal relationship, you would have a private talk, and see if you can fix this. 50 years later, this could be her "most embarrassing moment" story.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:56 AM
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You wouldn't even talk to her to find out exactly what she was feeling? Maybe she just used a clumsy way to express herself. If you're going to break off a relationship every time somebody makes a mistake, you're going to be lonely. In one way, you could argue she was "settling" for him, but on the other hand, out of all the guys she could have "settled" with, she picked this one, so he must have some good qualities. Maybe she also thinks he's great in bed, but didn't want to say that in public.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:49 AM
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It showed a blatant lack of respect. Without this, you cannot build a relationship You can grow and learn. I've been married for 25 years, and I'm still embarrassed about some stupid shit I said in the beginning. The girl could have been well-meaning, but just socially clumsy. The guy can grow into confidence, and realize that he may be boring but he's still a catch.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:45 AM
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if you were at a party and your fiance left upset about something would you just stay at the party No. But, if I were the guy, I would not have run away either. Instead, wait for a quiet moment, and then have a private talk about what happened, and give her a chance to realize the comment was hurtful, and give her an opportunity to explain/apologize.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:40 AM
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Profits follow from peace and stability. Making the missus happy is part of that.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:18 AM
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Would be a good start to teach from a young age different conflict solving skills and respect for other people? We're already doing that. It won't help to do it harder. In fact, targeting men and boys specifically while letting girls getting away with same things, will only cause frustrations. Feminists moms, raising boys as if they were defective girls, do serious damage to boy brains.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 03:16 AM
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the common denominator to most killings/violent incidents are men Ok, let's say we all agree on that. And now what?
/r/MensRights10/06/22 05:15 PM
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In general, when the government gives extra monetary support to women, it means that in a traditional family, the father will have to pay more taxes so that the government can give his money to the mother. Instead, we can let the father keep the money, and spend it directly on the needs of the family. Non traditional families, e.g. single moms, will benefit more, but then it means we've provided an extra incentive for such situations, which I don't think is a good idea.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 02:00 PM
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do not ask anyone to open up They could be asking it as a shit test. Open up, and tell your secrets, so I can judge you better.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 12:40 PM
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In their mind "victim" is "woman accusing a man"
/r/MensRights10/06/22 12:33 PM
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But every time a man get emotional, it's about something specific. Crying when you lose a friend/family/pet is understood and accepted. Crying for joy when your team wins the championship or your daughter gets married is also accepted. Of course, your display of emotion is supposed to be brief. Crying because you can't handle the challenges you face in your life is totally different. It is seen as a sign of weakness, and makes a man unattractive.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 11:57 AM
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Good. Without even considering whether she was right or wrong, it's very unprofessional to use your online social media power to discredit and harass a colleague. Not only is it very hard for the colleague to defend themselves, it also reflects very poorly on the company you work for.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 09:42 AM
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im a woman and i will be the first female president! If she's implying that, as a woman, she will push for gender divisive laws, that's not exactly a positive.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 07:32 AM
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Most of the social standards imposed on men are done by women. Most men don't care much about other men, with the exception of fathers raising sons. And yes, a good father will tell his son not to cry, because he knows that's what necessary to be successful in life.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 07:29 AM
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What kind of emotions do you find attractive? Crying about a new puppy? Depression? Stress about financial problems? Feelings of loneliness? Crying in the corner when the house is threatened by a flood?
/r/MensRights10/06/22 07:21 AM
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Men can't show weakness, because women are interested in winners, not losers.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 07:09 AM
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They see men in charge, and then assume that these men will set up the system to favor other men, because that's what women would do. In reality, the men in charge set up the system much more balanced, with a lot of favors for women.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 07:05 AM
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And for serious issues, open up to a professional therapist, preferably male.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 07:03 AM
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It is well defined, and by definition is harming society Then show us your definition, show that it exists, and explain how it is harming society.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 07:02 AM
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