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Only thing I can add is to break (and continue to break) the touch barrier at 4, if not earlier. Breaking that barrier doesn't have to be sexual. It can be a hug when first meeting. Taking her hand through a crowd. Touching her back when she walks through the door you're holding, etc. Wait to kiss her until you're back at your place.
/r/seduction09/08/25 10:23 PM
7

Why are you posting about this ? First Rule of Fight Club, bro.
/r/seduction22/07/25 12:44 AM
2

I read a post quite a while back that fits this situation perfectly. You're basically going to call them out for a few things. Number One, it's a given that they care about her, and don't want to see her hurt. Number Two, what is it you think you're going to do, if we break up, because I'm not her first boyfriend, and you're not in prison for any crimes related to that. Which leads us to Number Three, you're simply trying to exert some sort of control over me... which not only isn't happening, b…
/r/seduction08/06/25 12:58 AM
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Solid post all the way through. Quoted the following as it reminded me of a story and reinforces your take: Being kind just means you treat people well just because it’s a core value. You do it because you care about other people. Not to please them into liking you. Waiting in line at the grocery store with a girlfriend. We each had two items. The woman in front of us had a handful of 9-10 things and was struggling to keep everything from dropping. I stepped out of line and grabbed the woman a h…
/r/seduction29/03/25 10:41 AM
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"Your cats look like they need a father figure in their lives" I didn't need to read the commentary to know how GOLD this one is. I've been using a variation of that ("... make sure you're not some crazy cat lady"), but I'm upgrading to that 'father figure' line.
/r/seduction14/03/25 04:46 PM
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a bitchy look and be short in their response If it's a "no thank you" kind of reply, I wouldn't look much into it, and simply keep moving.
/r/seduction23/02/25 12:54 AM
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situational opener works best (weather, atmosphere, people and such). +1 for situational. Got a number, date, and second date bang after chatting with a woman using a throwaway situational opener at a bar entrance. Short version, we're waiting in line (with about 15 to 20 people in front of us) to get into the bar. There's one guy at the door checking IDs and taking the cover charge. The (eventual) bang and her two friends are in front of us. I fired off my line to my buddy, not loud, normal voi…
/r/seduction08/02/25 03:49 PM
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👍
/r/seduction29/01/25 08:20 PM
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Have you ever had an experience that, once you know that something is/isn't happening, you can relax and enjoy the rest of the day or night ? Using that same logic... Apologize/ say 'sorry' for something trivial early on in the date. Get it out of the way. It'll pay off later that night. It'll be situational. Say you told her to turn left at the end of the hallway at the bar instead of the right for the bathroom. Or you said you were at the end of the bar when you were ten feet away at the raili…
/r/seduction06/01/25 02:16 AM
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⁠Whenever I have to open a door for her, I always place one hand on her lower back to guide her through. Solid one for any first date. This is a great way to break that touch barrier if you haven't had the opportunity already. Or if you're new to the game and think "she might be creeped out if I touch her". What's nice about this move is, it's an innocent enough touch that you're not 'overstepping'. But the lower back touch is almost like a free peek in Poker. Now I greet with a hug and break th…
/r/seduction06/01/25 01:40 AM
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If it's a potential that just didn't manifest into a date/hookup ? My canned response is "No worries, hope all is well." For some reason, she doesn't want to get together. I'm not wasting my energy chasing down that reason. If it's a woman I've been with already, it's situation specific... 'in the moment', as ok_hedgehog said.
/r/seduction20/11/24 06:36 PM
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Reminds me of the meme. My dick has taken me places I wouldn’t go with a gun.
/r/seduction08/11/24 08:08 PM
5

"Hello, 911 ? I'd like to report a murder."
/r/seduction11/10/24 11:11 AM
4

Reminds me of a Bill Burr bit on the subject. Bill Burr - No Means No
/r/seduction02/10/24 03:14 AM
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If you're worried about the Metoo-ers freaking out for approaching them, it just comes down to pre-selection. Feminine, long hair, height/weight proportionate, no face piercings, no garish and/or offensive tattoos, looks like she takes pride in her appearance, the worst thing you're likely to hear is "no thank you" with a possible "I have a boyfriend" after it. Accept it and move on to the next one. Dressed asexually, short neon colored hair, overweight, pierced nose and eyebrows, clothes that a…
/r/seduction28/09/24 03:02 PM
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Same. I entertain other options but will keep stirring this pot. Matched a woman on Tinder back shortly after the Covid insanity started. Made plans for the next day, she messaged me that morning that she tested positive for Covid... two week quarantine. From there I kept text exchanges light but flirty, texted maybe 12 days out of the 14. She'd chat about a movie she was watching, "(so and so) is a great actor", etc, while sprinkling in the occasional 'how are you feeling' message. 14 days late…
/r/seduction21/08/24 05:59 PM
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Oh ok 👍🏻
/r/seduction08/08/24 01:14 PM
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Meh, I think you're reaching. What I said was that I can respect if they got right to the point as to what they were on the site for. You're automatically assuming that I condone them being on the site in the first place. Saying I hate ice cream doesn't mean I like cookies.
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:57 AM
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Thats not what I said.
/r/seduction08/08/24 02:23 AM
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I'd actually respect it if they came out with that in the first couple of messages... instead of wasting my time trading barbs and 'establishing some sort of connection' before dropping the trademark "how are you going to help me out" line.
/r/seduction07/08/24 10:56 PM
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The biggest key is to make open ended STATEMENTS. Just as examples: "Great profile pics, I have to know where the one was taken." (She'll tell you. They all have one pic that's in a vacation spot). "Oh wow, that's awesome, I've always wanted to go there." ............. "It's nice to find someone normal on here. I've had my share of crazy matches, I bet you've had a few as well." (She has. And she'll tell you. If she doesn't get the hint, ask her what her craziest match was like. She'll tell you)…
/r/seduction05/08/24 08:44 PM
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That "good day" example is a great analogy.
/r/seduction05/08/24 12:03 PM
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I used to think that the majority of men were exaggerating about not only their body count but the ease in how they got the girl... that overhearing a guy talking to his buddy about smashing a chick the same night was full of crap. No way. Women aren't like that... Post divorce I jumped on a few dating sites with a rather direct profile. And noted that I was fresh out of a divorce (I had a script that basically explained that she got all the friends in the divorce, but it wasn't worded "whiny").…
/r/seduction05/08/24 12:57 AM
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RIP Patrice O'Neal
/r/seduction15/07/24 07:44 PM
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Patrice O'Neal had a great take on this. This is an oldie from the O&A show, Patrice and the gang are discussing Tiger Woods and the conversation travels into 'losing your swagger'. The next few minutes switches back and forth between Tiger and not forcing your swagger to come back (riding it out). The swagger talk starts at 1:32, but it's worth listening to from the start to see how he leads into it. https://youtu.be/d0bwOFWEv6g?si=HWmbUhtinCWgxFMZ
/r/seduction01/05/24 09:55 AM
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Logistics can make or break the night. While it doesn't automatically mean you're smashing, once you're riding in the same vehicle it's pretty much "don't fuck up" game. But getting there can be a hurdle. Well done, sir.
/r/seduction14/04/24 12:26 AM
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OP speaking truth. Eddie Murphy breaks it down here: https://youtu.be/hVNEp6hZE3g
/r/seduction04/07/23 04:35 PM
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This is what I was thinking
/r/seduction04/07/23 12:31 AM
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Do ice cream for a first date. Any sort of sit down meal will be followed with either bloating or a need to sit in the bathroom (or both). And can also get expensive pretty quick. And that's if everything goes smoothly. If the meal gives either of you an upset stomach and/or the liquid squirts, then you'll remember nothing else other than the time that calamari made her throw up or when you had to cut the date short and pass on the bang because you were afraid you were going to shit your pants. …
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:21 PM
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6 feet 6 inches. Take note, ladies, that's two measurements.
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:15 AM
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Some of that falls on men pedestalizing women. There are women that think that their pussy has the same value as your entire existence. What they don't realize (more like they do and don't care) is that every woman has a pussy. If there were such a thing as fairness between the sexes, they would need to be BETTER than just their pussy. The men that these women lock down consider her pussy as equal to their entire existence. But her pussy is not as important as my dick.
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:51 PM
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^ this x1000 Wait until you're in the bang location to kiss her, not only because of what's Hyaku has said, but it also gives her the plausible deniability that it 'just happened'. Kiss her too early, or at the end in public, and she KNOWS what's supposed to happen if you go to your or her place. Pro Tip: Her place whenever possible, she'll be able to relax in a familiar setting and increases the odds of her being a better fuck. And you can dip out after, versus trying to kick her out.
/r/seduction24/08/22 12:45 PM
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OLD, makes sense now lol
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:35 PM
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Good stuff. As I reflect back on potential bangs, I can see where the breakfast date would have worked. Just writing this, there's three that immediately come to mind that I'm confident I would have been able to close mid-day. Question, what's OLD an acronym for ?
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:29 PM
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Texaspete's logic is sound, but I wouldn't outright tell her that you have other women to smash. If you've made moves that indicate you're interested in her on a sexual level, and she's not indicating the same, then tell her "I'm not in the mood to be dick teased, so where can I drop you off ?" You'll either get some action (for being bold), get a seminar (why she wants to take her time and/or doesn't want to have sex with you), or get told to fuck off (in which case she'll get herself home). An…
/r/seduction20/08/22 05:02 PM
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Assuming you just want to smash... "I had an unpleasant experience the last time I was at (trendy pricey place). But I'll let you buy the first round at (bar close to OP's place) instead". "I have an ex that's on the waitstaff at (trendy pricey place). But I'll let you buy the first round at (bar close to OP's place) instead". bar close to your place helps your odds of smashing
/r/seduction06/08/22 01:36 PM
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And drop in the earlier conversation. "Hey, the conversation from the other day... I'm gonna go see (obscure band) Saturday, you in ?"
/r/seduction26/07/22 03:22 AM
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What Monkey said. Ask her about any available female friends, let us know what she says and does
/r/seduction25/07/22 04:41 PM
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Ok, yeah, you didn't do anything 'wrong', per se. Maybe a faux pau, or an implied obligation, or assumed reciprocation (on her part), but nothing wrong. It's customary to tip the bartender or the waitress, but you don't always have to. Curiosity (and it may partly explain her current behavior), did she get you to completion, and if so where did you finish (ie is she a spitter or swallower) ?
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:38 AM
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Can't speak to the other two, but if POF were a 'brick and mortar' type of store, I always thought it would be one of those places that sell closeout or deeply discounted products that no one else was buying.
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:47 AM
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"... at some point I convinced her to lick my tip..." I'm assuming you didn't outright threaten her, but I also figure it wasn't as easy as just asking please. So I'm not piling on the "OP is a dirt bag" bandwagon (yet ?). How exactly did you 'convince' her to do this ? The answer affects my response.
/r/seduction25/07/22 03:23 AM
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"I've got a couple of things to get done tomorrow afternoon, how's 2:00 work on your end ?"
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:37 AM
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What time are you supposed to meet ? Send her a message tomorrow about an hour before that you're adding 10-15 minutes to YOUR time. If you're meeting at 6:00, around 4:45 send a quick text, "Got a late jump leaving work, if you beat me there, wait, first round is on me." Unless she's an outright cunt, she'll either approve and agree or "Sorry, I completely forgot to tell you that I can't make it today." You respond, "No worries" and move her to the back of the shelf. If she offers up an alterna…
/r/seduction24/07/22 02:26 AM
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A lot gets lost over texts. Check out the "Key and Peele Texting" video on YT for extreme (and humorous) examples. That said, I could see where you were going with the retort, but I also had the benefit of knowing beforehand that it may have landed wrong. If I were just reading it with no prep, I might have unmatched. My instinct tells me she read as far as "Their work is not a joke. What's a joke is how you seem to have...", without reading until the end, and said to herself, "fuck this guy and…
/r/seduction23/07/22 09:32 PM
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As far as what ? What do YOU want to do ?
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:46 PM
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In that instance, I think a lot had to do with the couple we knew, the common denominator. Oz chick knows that her friend's husband doesn't hang with sketchy men, I know that my buddy's wife doesn't have hoes hanging around (I should say, when he knows the hoes, he tells me and then I's knows). Not to be braggadocious, but that's not my best time from first meet to balls deep. On average, and when I've primed the online conversation properly, it's usually about twenty minutes from "Hello" to her…
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:47 PM
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Instead of talking exclusively to girls you want to pick up, make small talk with EVERYONE. That will help build both comfort and confidence. It's not an immediate solution, but after time it will become second nature and the confidence will be there. You can't force your swagger to come back, sometimes you just have to ride it out.
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:00 PM
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She's got a boyfriend but wants to hook up with you.
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:29 PM
4

"Is this your brother ?" You should never find out about a boyfriend when he appears. You should know she has a boyfriend before he gets close enough for you to say that. You should know because she should have made it clear before he got to you.
/r/seduction23/07/22 01:12 PM
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"at a certain point do you turn from being flirty to direct and sexual or do you keep the same approach going all the way?" Yes. Both. A lot depends on the situation and setting. This particular woman I'd kind of known (but really didn't know much more than her name) from previous gatherings put on my buddy and his wife, she's a friend of the wife. This day was a birthday dinner for the wife, total group was ten women and four men. She was inviting enough and laughed at the Oz joke. But, she als…
/r/seduction23/07/22 12:02 PM
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Fugazzi and Helpmeout make good points. The best lines, the solid lines, the lines that work because they land, are the ones that happen in the moment. That kind of talent comes with time, it can't really be taught, it's a lot of trial and error. Sure, you can pick up a few great lines here and there from TV shows or movies, but most times the line isn't practical in another situation, because it just doesn't fit. That said, when possible, some of the best lines in the moment should also tie in …
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:39 PM
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A woman that has the audacity to say to a man "Prove yourself" usually doesn't get pushback. Don't get me wrong, I see what you mean about cringeworthy. But if a woman says that to a man that approaches her, she has likely never been called out on her bullshit. She's probably a pretty girl, one of those women that guys stumble over to do shit for her, so she's never really had to deal with any contrary response. Heck, I'd bet the two guys that intervened before OP got to her picked up on her hor…
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:56 PM
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Ha I like that. A lot depends on your mojo at that moment. If I was having a shit night already, "You don't deserve me" would have rolled right off my tongue. If my mojo is firing on all cylinders, "I'll let you buy me a drink, and then that'll give you a chance to meet MY standards." Biggest thing to keep in mind is that YOU are the prize. Everything else falls into place with that mindset.
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:08 PM
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Her: (Puts hand on his thigh/knee) Him: (Puts his hand on top of hers) Her: (Pulls her hand away) "Eww omg that's so creepy". bro, she made the move, she knew what she was doing. So don't let her play that game. Hold her accountable. Him: "Bitch, why was your hand on my thigh in the first place ? Were you feeling around for my dick ?"
/r/seduction21/07/22 01:30 PM
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If she'd have playfully said something a little more inviting ("How do I know you're worthy", etc), then I might have played into it. "Prove yourself" just has that arrogance about it. I would have leaned in to her said something like, "You don't deserve me." Never forget that YOU are the prize.
/r/seduction21/07/22 12:24 PM
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I'll use the chocolate example. If you don't eat chocolate then don't buy chocolate. If you do eat chocolate, even if you weren't at the store to buy chocolate, go ahead and be prepared to buy chocolate. Stroll up and look at the chocolate, and (while looking at the shelves of chocolate), "Is it me, or has the quality of some of this stuff gone downhill over the last couple of years ?" She'll either just agree and ignore or walk away, or she'll engage in conversation. Depending on the direction …
/r/seduction20/07/22 05:36 PM
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Humor, always. If you're going to get a girl to generate an emotion, make it a positive one.
/r/seduction20/07/22 02:53 PM
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Hell would be if I didn't have a mustache.
/r/seduction19/07/22 11:11 PM
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I've seen stranger things happen, wouldn't surprise me in the least
/r/seduction19/07/22 06:14 PM
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Beegreen, I'll be honest, I read the first sentence and felt cringy. Read the rest of your post, and then it made a lot more sense. Texting "I miss you" puts everything on Front Street. Her response sets the barometer for where SHE is in the relationship. I like it 👍
/r/seduction19/07/22 04:29 PM
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The one that didn't want her to go with you... I'll bet that was the ugly one and/or fat one, and probably the bitchy one, too.
/r/seduction19/07/22 03:15 PM
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I appreciate that. On a side note, and not to be braggadocious, while my current is a little more than 10 years younger than me, I have regularly been able to pull women half my age. While I've never outright asked them why they chose me, or what attracted them to me, more than a few of them have articulated in not so many words that I always look like I have my shit together, versus men around their age that remind them of, as one girl in her mid 20's put it, "one of (her) brother's creepy frie…
/r/seduction19/07/22 03:13 PM
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Pro Tip for the future: Never make out unless you're in the bang location. Here's what basically happened... you and her made out, I'm going to assume that she knows that you're only in Prague for a couple more days. At this point Make Out Girl already knows that your intentions are to smash, and now that it's the next morning her mental hamster has come to the realization that she will probably never see you again once you leave Prague. There's also a chance that the making out got her off, and…
/r/seduction19/07/22 02:56 PM
1

Ever see something that you were disgusted at but at the same time amazed at ? Your mom took two at a time like a champ. I'd never seen anything like it.
/r/seduction18/07/22 10:22 PM
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Name and address for the airline, and you can be here any time you want. Ticket's on me.
/r/seduction18/07/22 10:17 PM
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Tell ya what, champ, gimme your name and address and I'll book you a ticket to Buffalo International Airport. Any day this month, you let me know when, and I'll be waiting for you at the gate 😁
/r/seduction18/07/22 10:05 PM
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24 and still a virgin... Jesus, stop playing with yourself, get off the computer, and go talk to a girl.
/r/seduction18/07/22 09:53 PM
1

Step up or shut up, Portland. Does your mom know you're online right now ?
/r/seduction18/07/22 09:37 PM
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Age plays a huge factor here as well. When I was in my late 20s and early 30s, jeans and a t-shirt were my go to outfit. Now I'm in my early 50s, slacks and a sport coat at a minimum, usually with a golf shirt (thinks Gibbs on NCIS). In some cases I'll wear a suit and dress shirt without a tie (but keep it in my jacket pocket). And as you mentioned, it also depends on the venue. I wouldn't wear a suit to a dive bar, but I'd wear at least a sport coat. General Rule of Thumb: Be dressed one level …
/r/seduction18/07/22 09:23 PM
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Break the touch barrier. Based on 'initial kiss', I'm writing this with the assumption that this is the first time hanging out. So invite her in, show her around a little bit (not the bedroom, not yet), and do something in the kitchen. As an example, do something where you're both standing. Squeeze behind her to get something out of a cupboard, gently touching her hips from behind while saying, "Stay there" or "Don't move" or "You're ok". Hold your hand up to hers, see who's hand is bigger. Stan…
/r/seduction18/07/22 06:25 PM
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I said what I said. If you've got an issue with it, then ignore the thread. Good luck to you.
/r/seduction18/07/22 03:29 PM
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I'm not defending myself, I have no need to defend myself, because I didn't write anything wrong. What I've done is clarify the point that you think you're trying to make. You've taken one line out of my post and gone off on a tangent. AND you tried to turn it into a soapbox for yourself with the "no is no" line of thinking. I'm guessing you're one of those "teach men not to r a p e" women that think that women always tell the truth. Change your attitude and realize that every woman isn't the de…
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:14 PM
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Again, that's not anything close to what I wrote, ma'am. I as well as most men understand that forcing sex with someone that doesn't want to have sex is considered r a p e. If a woman truly doesn't want to have sex on her period, that's perfectly fine. Headache, long day, stomachache, exhausted, just had her nails done, pissed off at her mother, or whatever other reason she comes up with. If you're honest with yourself, sweetie, you either have, or know someone that has, used the "I'm on my peri…
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:00 PM
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Read it again, that's not anything close to what I wrote.
/r/seduction18/07/22 12:33 PM
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Not nasty at all, brother. I do the same. Women like to weaponize 'that time of the month'. While plowing during the red tide isn't my first choice, I don't let it phase me and by smashing during her period I effectively take her potential weapon off the table right from the jump. side note, I cement my status as 'different from the other guys', as most of the other guys she's been with have never banged her during her period because they think it's gross and/or nasty.
/r/seduction18/07/22 02:09 AM
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This right here. If she's talking about it out loud, she's already been thinking about it a while. She just doesn't want you to think she's a slut. Whenever they use that line, I change gears and from that point on it's "Don't Fuck Up" game.
/r/seduction18/07/22 01:59 AM
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Agreed. Women are more comfortable in their own place for the first sexual encounter with a new man. She's already nervous, her place is familiar and calming to her. And on some level it's a weird kind of control thing. She knows her own place, she doesn't know yours. She knows her roommate or kid or anyone isn't going to show up while she's getting some. She knows she doesn't have a hidden camera anywhere, she knows you don't have a buddy or three hiding in the her closet to take advantage of h…
/r/seduction14/07/22 10:13 PM
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"I like my women attractive, but here we are."
/r/seduction27/05/22 08:11 PM
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