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They just feel that it has no consequence whatsoever. Birth control is there. Getting sex is easy. Sex is fun. And there are no perceived consequences. Then why not have as much as they want? Thats the argument they’ve raised. None of them even think about the emotional aspect. Or just straight up deny that argument by saying thats its some misogynistic projection that women can get emotionally wrecked if they engage in this hookup/FWB culture. Yes. Thats what they say. And thats why i made this…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:55 PM
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Meeting each other in person and knowing each other first. Thats what they call conventional dating. There’s a buffer period in between which these ladies think is enough for a guy to manipulate a girl into a bad relationship. Casual sex is liability free. And they can develop more raw emotions and bonding etc. Without ever getting cheated on. Thats their logic. Thats what the girls in my class tell me every time. And my gf also had a similar experience with her peers. I am a guy so i can’t real…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:34 PM
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Its the new normal in the hookup world. But i am sure that its not in the LTR section. Its only gonna get worse later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:26 PM
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Agreed on your first part. What? I don’t really think so. But i hope thats the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:11 PM
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This. Idk why so many women think otherwise and try to downplay the situation and project it onto other women as if jumping around men giving them free sex and nothing in return is something special.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:40 AM
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Then what about hookups basically?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:39 AM
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Most men think that way. And what are women basically doing against it? Assuming that casual sex is fun without no consequences. When in fact men just pump and dump them. Don’t tell me that women feel nothing about that. There’s data to prove that most ladies feel depressed. Just because some women don’t feel depressed or ‘used up’ doesn’t mean the situation should be downplayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:38 AM
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Your comment was about women. And its a guy sharing it around. Idk why it’d have hit his nerve lol. He’s just asking opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:35 AM
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Feminism also gave men the ability to fuck women for free. And leave without any liabilities. Just pump and dump. I don’t really think the argument ‘women can also do it now’ makes any sense in this context. Its not some marvelous thing anyways. I don’t really understand why some women willingly engage in Hookups and then feel regretful. And men are thotting around more now? It hasn’t gone down a bit. Its just made it easier for men to manipulate women for their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:34 AM
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Thats a bit of an exaggeration. But alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:31 AM
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Exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:30 AM
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It is. And thats exactly what most women do. Right in my college class i can pin point at least 10 girls who think hooking up is empowering and would let them land a good LTR. Meanwhile the conventional way to seek relationships are manipulative according to them. Always is. Men manipulate women into thinking that hookups are fine and fun. Some feminists say more sex means empowerment and there are no consequences. And ofc its deemed cool and progressive to hookup and engage in casual sex. Lots …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:28 AM
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Both parties should go for someone at their level. And not follow the herd in their younger days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:22 AM
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Uhm. No. Thats the idea my gf got from her feminist peers. Sex = Empowerment according to them. And we had a pretty nasty relation with those ladies as they kept insisting that she was being submissive and letting me posses her and shit. Plus they even claimed that she should think more independently before committing and seek other options sexually. When we both genuinely love each other. THEY were projecting their views on us. And this idea is ofc not something stemming from true feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:20 AM
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Thats anecdotal. I’ve talked to my gf about her friends. And this feeling of being ‘used up’ doesn’t kick in after one ONS or something. Majority of them are in the 30-50 n count region and still haven’t landed a proper LTR. Thats when most women feel used up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:16 AM
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Most end up getting harmed though. Physically, mentally, emotionally or socially. It hits in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:15 AM
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This. Exactly this. I totally agree with your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:13 AM
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Oh god....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:09 AM
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Exactly. What i believe. There’s nothing wrong in expecting a girl of your same standards. But then i’ve seen people arguing about that too. Basically claiming about n counts and virginity being social constructs. True. But why do these people really care? It almost feels like projecting one’s thoughts on others. A guy who’s low count can choose a low count women. Nothing sexist in that. The problem is when they have all the fun and then start going after low count women. Which is were society h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 03:02 PM
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Agreed. I was talking about high n count men who reject high n count women. They do exist. And ofc low n count men who also have issues with high n count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:50 PM
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Wait, what? Double standards. No, it's not talking about N count, but instead that it's empowering to recognize yourself as a sexual being rather than a libido-less human as "proper" women were considered during certain parts of history. Its about being able to openly say you enjoy having sex and masturbating. I'm not even a feminist and I know this is what they mean. This should be the real reason. But by far most of the female friends i’ve had basically believe in the opposite. Sleeping around…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:48 PM
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Agreed. No rewards for being a good girl. But there’s still a lot of negative stigma around being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:33 PM
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Why not get the best you can? Most women who settle are effectively downgrading. If she’s a HBC women she may ver well look for a HBC guy. It doesn’t make sense if she chooses an LBC guy and later complains about him being bad at sex or him judging her past. But you admitted they have no choices, its why women SETTLED for their lbc man. No? I said that its their choice to have as much sex as they want when they can. And its their choice to be with an LBC guy too. Then why can’t he have choices a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 05:05 PM
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I agree with your points. Pretty much my case too. I’ve always felt something special about the third point you mentioned. And my gf also shares the same perspective as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:56 PM
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Thats a rather different POV. If i like anal and she doesn’t , then i’d explore her interests to please her first, i’m not gonna force her to what i like, as my gf matters to me as a person, not a sex object. Then i’d move onto mine. I like kissing, vaginal sex or oral. There are endless options. So if anal is out, i’d try something else. I’m not gonna leave her just cuz she doesn’t satisfy me? Thats not why i love her at first place. I loved her as a person not for the sex we have. So if she fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:33 PM
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Well pretty much the case. Societal standards being imposed on everyone for the perceived righteousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:26 PM
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Thats more of an anecdotal experience. I can say the same way, i haven’t really encountered lot of couples in their 20-30s who say they don’t miss their exes in one or the other way. Either its sex or something else. They do miss them. This doesn’t prove or disprove anything . Just plain ol’ anecdotal reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:21 PM
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What you’re talking about isn’t bad sex. Its called bad communication. Period. If my gf doesn’t like the stuff i like to do, she should tell me straight up, i can adjust, i’d be willing to experiment what she likes. Thats just mutual communication. Not bad sex. I don’t expect people to even have a good LTR without communicating. Technically most experienced guys also prefer inexperienced girls. So effectively they themselves have had good sex before and want a partner who hasn’t. Its still a win…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:19 PM
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Thats all fine. But the point is whether she’s ready to be judged or not. As it was her choice to do all of that, so she can’t basically say her spouse shouldn’t have some choice of having an inexperienced partner. It goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:14 PM
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Pretty much what i wanted to say. Its never consequence free, so making oneself a victim out of his/her own choices and then complaining about the significant other being obsessed about their past makes no sense. Its your choice to have sex mindlessly. Deal with all the consequences. People need to learn this first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:11 PM
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Thats a fetish. Not conventional sex. Most women would be disgusted at fetishes. I know lots of such cases where feet fetishists were rejected by their partners regardless of their n count. And there’s nothing like ‘bad sex’. Sexual skill is acquired not innate. People aren’t born with sexual talent apart from ofc physical features which are an advantage. Even a high n count person need not be good at sex. And there are countless examples of it. People get good at sex by having more sex and expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:06 PM
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What i don’t get is that, if this is the reality, then why do women even have so many sexual partners? Like there isn’t any obligation that you must sleep around as much as possible. In fact most women i’ve talked care less about sex than men. The double standards are almost crystal clear , so it makes no sense to me when a woman still chooses to have a lot of sex rendering a high n count and eventually making herself some sort of a victim when LTR comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:58 PM
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Solution to that? People should Stop complaining. And find someone with a similar past. I won’t call it inferior but a woman who’s slept with a lot of guys ain’t superior either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 12:30 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 02:43 PM
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You agree that it's normal and acceptable to need more than a month to decide an LTR, and that sex can happen in that time frame, yet you can't comprehend how this could lead to a high N? That's an interesting lack of deduction I hadn't seen before. Hookups/FWB lead to high count more than anything else. Including LTR. Having casual sex is easier than waiting 1-2 months for different LTRs. And if a person has a count of over 30-50 , i’d assume that they’ve just hooked up a lot. I simply can’t th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:06 PM
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Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation! I appreciate it. And a lot of points you made make sense too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:56 AM
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I’m speaking from observation. But then it’d be anecdotal. Majority of couples who i know, with high count eventually broke up in search of a better partner. Meanwhile low count/virgin partners are enjoying their life and in fact have a better sex life too. I have an issue being with a woman whose n count is related to hookups. And well, 90% of the ladies i’ve talked to, had a hookup background related high body count. And hookups are becoming the norm nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 09:15 AM
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Thats a better perspective for me. Thanks for the explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:59 AM
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Nice perspective to hear. I appreciate it. But what i think is that. With experience comes preference. So if a girl tends to know what she needs in her man its good. But on the negative side. There’s no one perfect guy. Which translates to dating forever until that right person clicks in. LTRs are based on commitments and compromises based on what i can say. So won’t this lifestyle be less effective? Idk just asking. If someone is "high N" because they were relationship hunting and haven't found…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:03 AM
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So you’re implying that people who had lots of sexual partners before are better relationship material? And the whole point you’ve made about relationships are about sex. People who suck at bed don’t make better partners? I don’t seem to understand this unless its from a hedonistic POV. There’s no general point in it. Someone who considers sex to be an integral part of relationships but not exclusively limited to it , would disagree with your perspective. Its just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 06:45 AM
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Your last three paragraphs are spot on. Like there’s so many judgements going on in between men that it renders someone insecure. I can speak of my peers too. A guy recently got a gf who genuinely loves him. But she’s not his looksmatch. She looks like what people would call a ‘downgrade’. And almost all guys used to talk trash behind his back like : ‘He has low SMV prolly’ ‘Low standards’ ‘Couldn’t get any better pussy’ ‘Poor lad had to settle with someone like her’ Everything oozes out of sexi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 04:06 AM
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Speaking facts. The best way to find true relationship is to sleep around. Applicable to both women and men. Lol. Thats what we call a hedonistic lifestyle. Its not better or some shit. Its just what you guys like. So feel free to follow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 03:33 AM
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Because sexual skill is acquired not innate. One doesn’t have to sleep around with everyone to get more ‘skilled’. Its equally possible with a single partner that you’re bonded with. In fact its better. Applicable to both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 02:48 AM
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Science says otherwise. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 02:38 AM
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Yeah i agree to your points, btw its a comment by a lady i found in the CMV sub. Not my views.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 02:31 AM
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Yeah its a hedonistic life. Different people different tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:25 PM
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And theory differs from practical life. Like in theory yeah its just X% chance that a girl who had multiple partners before, will cheat. But in practice, the probability of falling in that X% is the same for everyone. Like anyone can be cheated on , but on paper its just X% only.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:44 PM
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No my point was that. If a guy is a virgin he can expect to have a virgin partner too. Its a bilateral case. I’ve noticed that some people even shame such guys saying that its sexist. When he’s just expecting a girl with his same standards. And thats pretty much why i feel that the logic is wrong. Staying virgin is a choice for women, like it can’t be equated to some brutal immoral discrimination , if a guy says he doesn’t like non-virgins provided that he’s in the same boat, This is unlike the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:38 PM
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Another nice perspective to hear. But btw its not my analogy. Its just a comment i saw in CMV sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:35 PM
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Exactly this. Double Standards shouldn’t exist. But even interestingly i’ve seen people ridiculing men with low v count or just plain virgins from preferring women with low v count/virgins. If its bilateral there’s nothing wrong in it. I don’t get why some people even find that offensive. That sounds like they’re just forcing their POV onto others and passing it off as wrong if someone doesn’t accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 11:24 AM
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Nice perspective and i appreciate your explanation. Also thats not my viewpoint. Thats a comment written by a lady in the CMV sub and i wanted to know everyone’s thoughts in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 10:29 AM
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Very nice perspective and i appreciate how detailed your explanation is! And btw thats now my reasoning or what i think. Those paragraphs are merely a part of a comment i saw on CMV which i copy/pasted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:30 AM
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This is exactly what i think. Like whats even bad sex? Everyone can improve sex by having more sex. Which is possible in both contexts. Most people make it out like improvement is only when someone has sex with different/multiple partners and that inexperienced people are at a disadvantage. Like its not possible to improve sex with your gf/spouse in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 09:08 AM
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Really curious to know about why it is that like that? Because if we think about it, no partner is literally perfect. There’s always room for improvement , then why settle? There’s no legal obligation to commit to anyone, then why say stay loyal when someone can keep exploring for a better partner? Thats the whole music taste analogy mentioned in that comment. It would be like not allowing your partner to listen to good music so that they don't know that you're out of tune. It’d be like not allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:50 AM
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Yeah i agree. Its the whole n-count issue coming into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:36 PM
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The latter. I obviously prefer a trad non-western girl. But westernization and sexual revolution are taking place in historically trad countries at a fast pace. Western women aren’t in my list obviously. But all this stuff everywhere makes me skeptical if its the case in all countries too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:18 PM
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Its not a deal breaker for me. Even if she doesn’t i’m fine. Its just a preference that if she does, it’d be cool. Stuff like loyalty and transparency are a must for me. The rest of that stuff ain’t. I can adjust. And btw if i am with a virgin girl for a while, we’d prolly improve the game with each other. Then why not expect sexual aggressiveness from her later on in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:11 PM
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Thanks, I’d check that out. AskTrp is kinda giving off Incel vibes. I don’t think they’d give me a proper opinion. So is there any possibility i can rephrase my post to fit this sub? I really want to hear everyone’s perspective here too. I wasn’t asking for any advise per se. I just wanted to hear everyone’s thoughts. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:58 PM
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Any alternative sub to post this then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:56 PM
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Yeah. Not a westerner. I’m an Indian studying in US. Sexually Aggressive? Lowest priority for me, like i said sex doesn’t mean anything to me. If a girl is a virgin and she says she isn’t ready for sex yet. I’m fine. If she needs some emotional support. I’m in for that too. But yeah virginity matters for me a lot. Lol Feminine and Virginal? YES. Non-religious. I mentioned my flexibility, i’m irreligious so idrc about this. If she’s religious, fine. If she’s not. Fine again. So most of what you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:54 PM
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Virginity is a more reasonable preference. There are ladies out there who only want Tall 6’3+ Chads and stuff. Height is genetic. Virginity is voluntary. Nothing offensive when someone prefers a virgin. Its totally under everyone’s own control. I don’t have any issues being with a girl who lost virginity due to rape. She deserves support and it was an unfortunate event. I’d be happy to improve her life. But if we are talking about those who just couldn’t control their lust and just lost it by mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:49 PM
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Pretty much my case there. I’m not drooling for sex. I can support a girl for as long as she wants until she finds it comfortable. I just want her to stay loyal and not break apart in between for someone ‘better’ or something. But i guess its more common with experienced partners than virgins. I’m Irreligious but not an Atheist. So prolly won’t mind my partner talking about God. She can have her own preferences. Vaginismus? I guess it can be cured based on what i read. Or at least treated. And i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:42 PM
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