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Please don't do this. Wasted years trying to do this but then gave up. Meeting girls in person is way better
/r/seduction17/03/26 07:25 PM
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I'm in the fashion industry and am friends with / work with models. They're not really THAT picky, they tend to go for guys in their social circle more so than randoms who cold approach them. They're just regular girls and you'd be surprised how different many of them look without makeup and editing.
/r/seduction30/09/25 04:29 AM
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I think this is true for NY, LA and Miami but not true for certain cities like Chicago. I worked in fashion in Chicago and there's definitely a relatively limited number of 10's there compared to other big cities, and they're mostly in a small-ish social circle where reputation matters a lot. Depends on your preferences though
/r/seduction14/05/25 02:53 PM
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As someone in the model industry a lot of female models I know don’t use the apps. They usually meet guys on Instagram or through social circle.
/r/seduction06/02/25 03:03 AM
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Fashion / modeling undoubtedly. Because it puts you around hot girls all the time, so you learn they’re just human beings and you don’t pedestalize any girl anymore.
/r/seduction10/12/24 08:50 PM
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1000% agree w this
/r/seduction03/12/24 07:22 PM
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For me, getting attractive female friends was key to having better interactions with women. Also helps a lot with social proof as well
/r/seduction22/10/24 02:14 PM
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Yes. I DJed a fashion event yesterday and was surrounded by models. I ended up IG closing some of them.
/r/seduction24/09/24 05:06 PM
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It always does. And always has
/r/seduction23/08/24 02:17 AM
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In a social circle situation it’s better to be friends (but slightly flirty) with the hottest girls so you can work your way up the status ladder, thus generating attraction. But cold approach you can be direct and be more assertive with flirting.
/r/seduction02/08/24 02:05 AM
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Yes absolutely, it’s a status game. Sorry if I confused you. I think that getting into these circles has a lot of benefits outside of dating. But I’ll def close these girls at some point, I think so far everything is good and the girls seem tight with me!
/r/seduction28/07/24 04:42 PM
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Well you don’t make it entirely platonic. There are subtle ways to flirt and show interest with someone under the radar without being fully direct. And social proof does most of the work as well, which can take time to build Remember these girls are the HOTTEST girls. Different ballgame you have to play with them than say your average girl next door.
/r/seduction28/07/24 03:56 PM
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Bro there’s a difference between getting friend zoned and having women as genuine friends. No I haven’t fucked any girls yet but that’ll happen at my parties. Quite a few of them are definitely interested. Are you expecting me to pull them after 5 mins or something? It’s not the same thing as nightgame.
/r/seduction28/07/24 03:48 PM
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Basically start out with smaller events and work your way up. You’ll likely have to start with the ones that are ticketed as I did. Network with anyone and everyone there, especially industry people. You continue this process and work your way up until you get to the top.
/r/seduction28/07/24 03:44 PM
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Michael Sartain is the king when it comes to this so he’s your man. RSD Luke has some pretty good advice about social circle as well.
/r/seduction28/07/24 03:40 PM
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Yeah it’s pretty much all the same thing. I’m planning on doing a similar thing where I merge the dubstep / EDM scene with the fashion industry and creating an EDM themed fashion show or something like that.
/r/seduction28/07/24 03:38 PM
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Honestly it’s better to be friends with models than go straight into gaming them. Remember they get asked out ALL the time. So if you can be friends with them you’ll have a better chance of something happening later down the road.
/r/seduction28/07/24 03:36 PM
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Hey! I am in Chicago. I just started with a small event but worked my way up through networking.
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:52 AM
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So just because I’m in the fashion industry it somehow makes me gay?
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:01 PM
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From my experience, talking to the models is like talking to anyone else. Just literally treat them like normal people, don’t be impress when they mention they’re models. The industry is a lot less glamorous than you think and just knowing this alone will separate you from 99% of guys tryna to rizz them up.
/r/seduction27/07/24 10:46 PM
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Yes I’ve scored dates with a few of them. I’m more focused on befriending models though as they get asked out all the time, plus it’s better to have them as friends so you can do cool shit with them and leverage access.
/r/seduction27/07/24 07:36 PM
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Are you kidding? Ford is literally top 3 biggest agencies in the world, up there with Elite and Wilhelmina. And not everyone signed to those agencies are top models. I know a couple models signed to Wilhelmina and they are definitely not supermodel status. But it could also be because I am in Chicago’s scene and here it is a much easier industry to break into than say NY or LA. Mainly because Chicago isn’t known for that scene and it’s the Midwest which makes for nicer people than the coastal ci…
/r/seduction27/07/24 03:54 PM
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Not even close lol. Good looking yeah but rich no. Plus a lot of the models come for free, and once I start doing more photoshoots I’ll start getting paid for them. Not to mention I’m gonna start charging for tickets to events as well. I think it’s also easier for me to make that lifestyle happen because I am in Chicago which has a much easier scene to break into compared to other cities, since it isn’t particularly known for that scene. The whole point of this post was that social circle game i…
/r/seduction27/07/24 03:13 PM
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Def not. They are all legit signed models, some to very big agencies like Ford
/r/seduction27/07/24 03:08 PM
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I do have a genuine interest in fashion, especially photography. But some other reasons why I did this was to learn about the industry more, host events, DJ at events, and become friends with models.
/r/seduction27/07/24 04:01 AM
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I changed my mind, I made that post before I actually got into the industry. The more I’ve seen models in real life the more I can tell them apart from each other
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:40 PM
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Could be because you’re not in the industry or you don’t know a lot of models. Trust me bro I’ve partied with these girls, met these girls at fashion events and have also cold approached them during the day when they don’t have makeup on. Some are DEFINITELY hot, others just have desirable features that modeling agencies find interesting. But yeah we have different tastes I guess so I’ll respect it.
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:16 PM
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I’m involved in the fashion industry too and I actually agree with Snoo on this. Could be that I’m also involved in the Chicago industry which is smaller and less clout obsessed than bigger markets (due to Chicago not being a traditional “go to” city for modeling and “midwest nice” ofc), but so far I’ve found 9s and 10s to have better attitudes than most average girls. They’re more likely to actually have a friendly conversation with you and if they reject you they’re still nice about it. Defini…
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:14 PM
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There is a LOT more diversity in the industry nowadays as even the bigger agencies are more focused on features more than beauty. Still plenty of hot models that have the classic skinny tall look.
/r/seduction25/07/24 04:49 PM
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You really just need to know people. I’m really good friends with a guy who knows tons of high profile people in the fashion industry in my city. Because of this I’ve gotten into VIP areas and partied with models. Also I’d highly recommend going the fashion industry route. I did that originally as a way to meet models but eventually it turned into much more than that. I got to learn about the industry, developed a new appreciation for fashion, and got to learn about how the top 1% of society liv…
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:23 PM
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Even then they’re VERY difficult to find on the street. I can meet more models at fashion events than on the street
/r/seduction25/07/24 03:41 AM
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I’ve been getting heavily involved in the modeling industry lately and this is partially true and also partially not true. very few of those girls are actually attracted to guys constantly throwing money at them. The guys who have game and personality usually end up fucking those girls.
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:03 AM
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This is definitely true especially when it comes to getting access to the hottest girls. They’re mostly at exclusive events, high end clubs etc. You need to spend money to get into these clubs and events and it’s likely gonna be a lot.
/r/seduction15/07/24 05:38 PM
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I’m trying to make money by having girls at events hahah
/r/seduction29/06/24 01:26 AM
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This just sounds like a massive cope post. You can literally do anything and be anything you want and if you want to improve your success with women you can do that. There’s more options to meet women these days than ever before and cold approach is easier than it’s ever been because of guys like you who pussy out
/r/seduction27/06/24 01:56 PM
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Once you interact with tons of models you realize they they are just human like anyone else
/r/seduction10/06/24 06:11 AM
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So don’t be creepy? Just be friends w them, don’t hit on them. Also easiest way to not become an industry creep Plus the attraction will come when you starting hanging out with them on a regular basis
/r/seduction06/06/24 11:10 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. Cold approach is amazing for becoming mentally strong, stoic, immune to rejection and of course getting leads. However I’ve found social events are the best if you want to meet tons of women who are already receptive to you, especially exclusive events. It’s also really difficult to meet and pull 9’s and 10’s through cold approach, whereas at fashion events and the like you’re in an entire sea of them and they’re receptive AF. I highly recommend both methods (an…
/r/seduction06/06/24 07:13 PM
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I literally had a model ask me to do a shoot for her this past weekend at an event. So yeah agree w this 100%
/r/seduction06/06/24 04:38 PM
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Agree w this. Getting involved in the fashion industry changed my social life.
/r/seduction06/06/24 04:26 AM
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I have a friend that would do the same thing and I got annoyed for similar reasons. However I ended up taking his advice and I started to improve for the better. You’re grateful to have a friend like him, take advice from him and improve yourself. don’t be such a dick about it
/r/seduction26/05/24 05:37 PM
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As someone who’s been getting involved in the modeling industry I’ve noticed this too, but the girls are usually not the female models and more so average looking girls trying to prove themselves. Female models usually go for promoters, DJ’s / artists & photographers, as well as guys who are in their social circle
/r/seduction08/05/24 08:23 PM
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It depends. Some are flaky, some aren't
/r/seduction30/04/24 07:19 PM
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Bro used Chat GPT 😭
/r/seduction29/04/24 09:57 PM
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And how many models have you dated exactly to know this? Most models have self esteem issues like any other girl. They're often lonely and don't have many friends. Very few guys hit on them in a confident manner, only creeps or sleazy guys do. Based off my experience anyways
/r/seduction29/04/24 09:01 PM
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One, most guys don't even have the balls to approach models. Two, don't pedestalize them like every other guy and you'll likely see more success. They really are just people like everyone else My advice anyways
/r/seduction29/04/24 08:52 PM
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A lot of models are actually really friendly and approachable from my experience. But keep simping lol
/r/seduction29/04/24 08:29 PM
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Yeah absolutely. The tickets were relatively cheap given it was held at a super exclusive venue (we're talking velvet ropes and shit haha). Just look up any person who hosts networking events and watch out for the fashion ones, or follow anyone in your local fashion scene for info on events and shows.
/r/seduction29/04/24 02:17 PM
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Talking to everyone at the event and just letting loose were my two big ones
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:37 AM
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Yeah no prob man! Miami has a much bigger fashion industry than Chicago (where I’m based) so they’ll def be opportunities there. Just be on the lookout!
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:36 AM
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Yeah man I was afraid of putting myself out there for years and just recently gained the confidence to get myself out there again
/r/seduction29/04/24 05:34 AM
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I’d still do cold approach just for the sake of practicing your social muscles & getting over rejection but yeah events are amazing for socializing and people are likely going to be more comfortable being approached
/r/seduction28/04/24 07:39 PM
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I met a few fashion photogs at the event so that’ll be me in a month or two hahaha
/r/seduction28/04/24 07:34 PM
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Yeah kinda. I also produce music and do a bit of photography as well (landscape but I want to get into fashion / portrait) and I’ve been told I’d make a good model so I’m sort of a multi creative. But yeah just be a cool guy and talk to people normally.
/r/seduction28/04/24 07:30 PM
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Some are, some aren’t. Though the more you network with people at the ticketed events the higher the possibility you can get invited to the exclusive events, provided you give value to people. Kind of a work your way up deal.
/r/seduction28/04/24 07:27 PM
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I follow a guy on Instagram who hosts networking events, so I got it through his page. If you live in a major city you can simply research networking events or fashion industry events on Instagram and look up the ticket page.
/r/seduction28/04/24 04:20 PM
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It’s kind of common sense but so many people here try and push cold approach like it’s the only way to meet women (it’s great for starting off and developing confidence and I’m not saying you shouldn’t do it), but I think people will go further in developing social skills through attending events and talking to people. Plus if you want 9’s and 10’s events like this easily have the highest concentration of them.
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:22 PM
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I actually bought a ticket for the event haha. But it was worth it
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:18 PM
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I’m gonna be inviting some models to a party next week so that’ll give me opportunities to pull them 👍
/r/seduction28/04/24 02:18 PM
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Absolutely! I think it's so important and healthy to be social with people. Meeting people is an adventure, not a difficult task.
/r/seduction28/04/24 03:07 AM
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My advice? Do everything you can to interact with women. Daygame, nightgame, events, parties, etc.
/r/seduction11/04/24 06:00 PM
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Go to fashion shows and talk to the models there, you’ll instantly be desensitized to beauty since you’re surrounded by it
/r/seduction10/04/24 11:54 PM
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No woman is too good for you. That’s a beta mindset and it’ll affect your interactions with her. Just treat her like she’s on the same level as you, like a normal human. Get to know her as a person but have fun with her.
/r/seduction10/04/24 11:42 PM
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I'm in Chicago, and I should clarify I'm also a music producer and currently getting into photography. So I don't just only DJ
/r/seduction09/04/24 02:51 PM
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DJ
/r/seduction08/04/24 05:40 PM
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Well, to add context I tell them what venues I perform at. And my Instagram page has pics and vids of me DJing so there’s social proof in that. If you tell girls you’re a DJ when you’re really not they prob won’t be interested
/r/seduction08/04/24 05:17 PM
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You must not be a DJ or know any DJ’s then. Almost every girl I talk to lights up when I tell them I’m a DJ. They start making more eye contact, asking me more questions, even flat out asking me for my number on occasion. There’s an implied status in being a DJ, similar to being a club promoter or bartender. And a lot of models date DJ’s and musicians? I’m 22 fyi
/r/seduction08/04/24 05:12 PM
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For sure! Not only that but once you tell girls you’re a DJ she oftentimes starts gaming you. Happened at a fashion show recently, one of the runway models pretty much did all the work for me lol
/r/seduction08/04/24 03:55 PM
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Also being a DJ. DJing is a magnet for hot women and especially models, bartenders etc.
/r/seduction08/04/24 03:17 PM
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That’s kind of the whole point of self improvement lol
/r/seduction02/04/24 07:39 PM
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Exactly. Nothing beats the excitement of knowing that models want to come to your dubstep show lol
/r/seduction02/04/24 07:38 PM
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Chicago
/r/seduction01/04/24 04:16 PM
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That’s amazing dude!! Now I want to go to every single fashion event in my city bc of that. Thanks for sharing your experience!
/r/seduction01/04/24 02:26 PM
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Wow I’m surprised you were able to pull that off! At the show I went to the other night I was able to talk to the models right after the show. It was a smaller show though but still fun nonetheless.
/r/seduction01/04/24 02:02 PM
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I’m a DJ so my industry is related to the fashion industry. I also wanted to go for the sake of meeting industry ppl (including models ofc). It was a life changing experience for me.
/r/seduction01/04/24 05:30 AM
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I went to a fashion event last night and pretty much all the models there were insanely receptive. The hottest one even number closed me. Also got a ton of social proof just by being there. I'd say industry events are amazing for meeting women and especially hot models. But yeah I agree that you can meet women anywhere. There's no "best" place to meet girls
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:56 PM
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Pls don’t do this strategy. Yes it works but it doesn’t show any balls. So take those balls and go meet women IRL
/r/seduction04/03/24 05:01 PM
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Yeah bro I saw a model the other day and I hate to break it to ya but they ain’t that hot. She was tall, had interesting facial features, but she was very average. They’re not 10’s, they’re humans.
/r/seduction29/02/24 03:07 PM
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Probably
/r/seduction28/02/24 02:41 PM
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We don’t speak of John Anthony
/r/seduction27/02/24 10:18 PM
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Gotcha thanks!
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:07 PM
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Accurate 😂
/r/seduction17/02/24 10:49 PM
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Is cold approach really more competitive now? I always thought that most guys didn’t have the balls to cold approach in a confident way, at least with daygame. Thus you stood out.
/r/seduction17/02/24 06:10 AM
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Adriana Lima is also Brazilian and they tend to have very good genetics. But yeah she never really had any surgery work done so she prob is an exception
/r/seduction15/02/24 09:02 PM
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I agree. A couple weeks ago I saw a model on the train. She was tall, slender, definitely cute, but I wasn’t like “Oh my god she must be a supermodel!!”. Just looked like a normal girl.
/r/seduction15/02/24 06:28 PM
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IG models are not runway models (some are don’t get me wrong). A runway model is a girl who walks on a runway for fashion shows (high fashion models are the most known). I live in Chicago, which doesn’t have the biggest modeling industry (compared to NY/LA/Miami) but there are a few agencies here so it’s mostly smaller models. I DJ’ed at the fashion week here and even seeing the models backstage and the actual show I wasn’t impressed by their looks. Maybe Chicago has a more “inclusive” industry …
/r/seduction15/02/24 06:25 PM
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I mean some do respond differently and some don’t. Don’t lap them all into one group
/r/seduction15/02/24 03:06 PM
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Absolutely. Whenever I got a reply from a model on Instagram my ego would skyrocket and I’d feel like the greatest human being on earth, in not a good way. It’s a very unhealthy ego boost.
/r/seduction15/02/24 01:05 AM
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I am talking about actual agency models fyi, not just girls who use tons of filters and call themselves “models”
/r/seduction14/02/24 11:58 PM
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Absolutely. I think it’s just lame to only be attracted to models when so many other women look just as good
/r/seduction14/02/24 11:31 PM
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Yeah that makes sense. I think a lot of models rely too much on modeling because they think it’s gonna be a great long term career when it really isn’t. So they don’t have another career to fall back on when they can’t model anymore
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:50 PM
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Absolutely
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:42 PM
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Yeah you live in NYC so I guess it’s understandable. I live in Chicago so the fashion scene here doesn’t attract world famous supermodels
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:42 PM
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Because IMO, it's not. Models tend to be high maintenance and they often don't have the best personalities. I'm sure not all of them are like that but many are. Dating average girls is better in my opinion.
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:33 PM
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Because I’ve realized the truth about models? How is that “cope” by any means? You could say the same thing about a Ferrari. They may look good, but at the end of the day they’re just normal cars that you drive just like any other car, they just come with a higher price tag and more maintenance.
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:23 PM
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Have you ever met Willow and Vlada in real life? How can you tell?
/r/seduction14/02/24 08:07 PM
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I’m only 22 so it ain’t too late yet
/r/seduction14/02/24 07:32 PM
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When did I ever say models are unattractive? They are. Just not INSANELY attractive as in photos. And tons of women look just as good or even better than them IRL. Read the post pls
/r/seduction14/02/24 07:19 PM
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Ever heard of this thing called Photoshop?
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:57 PM
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Never said they were unattractive, just not as attractive as in photos
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:39 PM
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It took me a long time to realize that vision and honestly I didn’t really know what they looked like IRL until I actually saw them in person. They look like pretty much any relatively attractive girl that isn’t a model. That was my point.
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:39 PM
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Agree. They are really just normal girls without the makeup and cosmetics, except taller
/r/seduction14/02/24 04:46 PM
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Exactly. And no offense to my friend, but they also tend to not give the best dating advice because they’ve been attracting women without having to approach their entire lives so they’ll give you advice from the perspective of someone who’s always had dating on easy mode (ex: “just be good looking like me!” or “don’t do cold approach bro that’s creepy” or “just go for girls who like you for who you are!”). And yet they think they’re the “dating expert” lol. I’m not a dating expert by any means b…
/r/seduction13/02/24 03:49 PM
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From what I’ve noticed women who approach good looking guys are oftentimes not the best looking women, nor women I’d consider “quality”. Have a friend that’s never had to approach, he gets approached all the time bc of his looks but the girls are always mentally crazy and not that hot IMO.
/r/seduction08/02/24 06:07 PM
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You’re hot no homo. Stop making excuses and talk to some girls
/r/seduction21/12/23 12:17 AM
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Ahh no matter why so many Russian models blow up my phone lol
/r/seduction19/09/23 08:58 PM
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You mean models? You don't have to be good looking to pull them, just gotta have tight game and preferably money.
/r/seduction15/08/23 03:27 AM
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As long as few men do it consistently that’s all that matters. Keep the competition low in daygame lol
/r/seduction01/06/23 04:33 PM
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Models replying to my DM's when I'm not expecting them to lol
/r/seduction23/05/23 05:51 PM
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Music production and DJing. I have a geniune passion for making music and that makes me interesting to people around me. Also DJing events has gotten me more attention
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:48 PM
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Absolutely. Visited NYC about a month ago for my birthday. It has this energy than no other city can match and the culture is amazing. The women are miles more attractive than Chicago with NYC being the model capital of the US, especially around Soho. I lost count of the amount of tall hot girls walking around there. I also felt safer in NYC. It’s just a better city in general.
/r/seduction24/10/22 07:26 PM
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Sorry misread your comment. I think Chicago is good for dating, but because there isn’t much of a clout culture here you won’t find women as hot as those in NYC or LA. I actually like living here even though I’ve been through a few scary situations (including witnessing a shooting on the red line, I was safe thank god). Still planning on staying in NYC next summer and getting in on the action there.
/r/seduction24/10/22 06:21 PM
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Chicago has the best dating scene in the US? 😂😂 I’m dying lol. I live in Chicago and IMO it’s good but nowhere near on the level of NYC or LA, or even Miami. The hottest girls here would be 7’s in NYC lol.
/r/seduction24/10/22 03:34 AM
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Models don’t make you happy. Oftentimes they make you more miserable. Find a girl you can actually connect with and get along with.
/r/seduction20/10/22 04:58 AM
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Relatable lol
/r/seduction20/10/22 04:57 AM
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Not necessarily, at least with IG you can message any kind of girl you want and get a response if you message enough. Then take things from there
/r/seduction08/10/22 04:03 AM
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And I’ve seen fashion models with guys who don’t have any of those things. Except social skills. They know how to make women feel emotions. That’s what matters the most in attracting women.
/r/seduction14/09/22 04:27 AM
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I also found Instagram as an effective strategy to get fashion models and 9’s.
/r/seduction08/08/22 11:39 PM
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Dude you’ve literally posted the same thing over and over again. “I’m dating a model and I’m worried she’ll cheat”. Look dude, you need to stop giving a fuck. Thinking she’ll cheat will ironically cause her to cheat on you. It’s a self-fufilling prophecy. Treat this girl like any other, have fun with her and flirt with her.
/r/seduction31/07/22 11:10 PM
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Reply to her story by cold reading her. Send this to 10 girls and usually 1 or 2 will respond. This usually works better on models but should work on normal girls too.
/r/seduction26/07/22 02:59 PM
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What I’ve found works is commenting on a girl’s story without mentioning her looks. I usually “cold read” girls by making assumptions about their personality. This has been the most successful IG method for me.
/r/seduction23/07/22 09:41 PM
1

Very true, though I have been approaching a little bit recently and have found that women respond better to indirect approaches. It makes it seem like a more natural “it just happened” kinda scenario than coming off as the weird daygame pickup guy trying to make moves.
/r/seduction23/07/22 09:38 PM
1

I’ve def found it improves my life for sure. Makes me more confident and overall more empowered. But it’s easy to get distracted from cold approach when you’re getting all this attention from models on IG.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:33 PM
2

True. Online game when done right is a great way to meet models and 10’s. I think of social circle game as college style where you get a positive reputation and women are drawn to you because of that. It might be worth looking into though. But yeah, I don’t think anything beats cold approach.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:31 PM
1

Yep exactly, but not sending them messages like every other guy trying to DM them and actually getting them to respond
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:30 PM
1

Nope, I have just under 1k but send them certain messages that make them respond.
/r/seduction23/07/22 05:29 PM
-1

I do, have had success getting dates through daygame in the past. Models are my type and I’ve had more success with them on Instagram than cold approach. I’d like to get back into cold approach just for the fun of it though
/r/seduction22/07/22 11:55 PM
0

That’s true and that’s what I’ve been doing for the last 4 months. I’ve been virtually “approaching” and seducing fashion models on Instagram. It doesn’t feel the same as cold approaching models IRL, though I’ve had more success with models on IG than cold approach IRL. I think you’re more likely to meet certain types of women on IG, whereas cold approach is mostly average / cute girls. Maybe if I did both cold approach and IG my results would be maximized.
/r/seduction22/07/22 11:49 PM
3

I’m probably a 6 at best and I do very well in person and on IG, but not on dating apps. Women don’t care about looks like you think.
/r/seduction21/07/22 06:05 PM
1

I have very high self esteem, which is why I get tons of models.
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:55 PM
2

Most Wilhelmina girls apparently have 10 boobs while Ford girls have 15
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:33 AM
1

Facts
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:11 AM
5

Most female models prefer not to date male models, they prefer to be with a guy who doesn't make them feel so uptight. It's like sorority girls dating frat boys, they could date them if they wanted but prefer not to as they tend to be douchebags.
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:06 AM
7

Dated a girl signed to Elite. Didn't really notice a difference other than her being a normal girl, and maybe hot I guess
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:05 AM
4

Guys who are fun, charismatic, and can make a girl feel emotions. I've seen models with guys who aren't good looking, rich, famous, or don't have anything going on for them. Also guys who know how to do Instagram game.
/r/seduction21/07/22 05:04 AM
1

Reply to her story by commenting on anything other than her looks, usually 2 out of 10 women you message will respond. Once she replies, continue the conversation in a fun and flirty way and when the conversation is at a high note, invite her out. Don’t listen to the people saying Instagram doesn’t work, I specialize in DMing models and have had great success. You don’t need a lot of money or followers.
/r/seduction20/07/22 07:40 PM
1

I’m just saying models are normal human beings like us and that there’s no need to put them on a pedestal. They’re basically the same as all people, only difference is they’re attractive
/r/seduction19/07/22 01:12 AM
1

I dated a runway model who did international work for major brands. Easily one of the hottest girls I’ve dated IMO. The industry doesn’t look specifically for beauty in runway models since the point of them is to be walking mannequins basically, but I find most tall and thin women hot.
/r/seduction18/07/22 10:53 PM
2

I like the look of runway models and most commercial models, not so called “instagram models” whose entire look is completely photoshopped.
/r/seduction11/07/22 05:44 AM
1

Exactly, the whole point of getting good at game is to date the women you want. If I wasn’t good at game I would have never gotten opportunities with models, let alone date them
/r/seduction11/07/22 03:18 AM
2

Ikr? It sounds like he dated a couple of models that happened to be ditzy and came to the conclusion that all models are dumb bitches. Which is not true from my experience and presumably yours.
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:32 PM
1

Real models are much better than Instagram models.
/r/seduction10/07/22 03:55 PM
1

“Models are a lot looser than you think. It’s way easier to screw a model than a regular girl. That’s what they do all the time. It’s the way regular people are when they’re on vacation. They’re away, so they do things they wouldn’t normally do. But these girls are away all the time because they travel from place to place. So that’s what they’re like all the time.” - Sex And The City
/r/seduction10/07/22 06:52 AM
2

I do it by treating them like normal people, by having game and flirting with them, and not putting them on a pedestal like most guys. Those are the secrets of being a modelizer.
/r/seduction10/07/22 02:52 AM
3

I’m not saying all models are perfect goddesses sent down from heaven. Everyone has flaws and there are some who are materialistic and some who have tons of substance and things going on for them. A girl I’ve been talking with recently is a model as well as a professional dancer and snowboarder. She is also a student studying law at a prestigious university. I’ve also met and dated models who are very intelligent and have degrees or are studying Law, Neuroscience, Medical etc in school. One mode…
/r/seduction09/07/22 04:34 PM
0

Have you dated models?
/r/seduction09/07/22 04:06 PM
8

There are many models who are genuinely amazing people and also many regular women who happen to be vapid. Maybe the models you dated happened to be vapid and shallow? You can’t generalize a certain subset of people to be shallow based off of just a few bad experiences. Everyone is different.
/r/seduction09/07/22 03:55 PM
1

I have a song on Spotify with over 130k views and have releases all over Soundcloud and other platforms. Also recently played a big show. I think it’s great that the song went viral, but I’m not trying to make music with the intention of making it that big. A lot of artists create art because they love creating art. It’s only a small minority of artists that have huge egos and only care about fame and clout.
/r/seduction09/07/22 03:43 PM
2

So is the fashion industry lol
/r/seduction09/07/22 08:40 AM
5

I know real models when I see them. Many instagram models just look completely fake and totally photoshopped on the other hand. If I had to choose between a runway model and an instagram model, I would absolutely choose a runway model. They usually look better in person and are much more down to earth
/r/seduction09/07/22 08:09 AM
2

Thank you so much! I only talk to models who are also awesome people. If you aren’t awesome, then you don’t deserve to be a part of my awesome life. I’ve met a ton of models that are beautiful on the inside and out. No one wants to be around negative people. Positivity is what lifts people up.
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:18 AM
12

Nope. I am broke as a joke and I still pull models
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:14 AM
10

Yes, you have to have a top tier personality ;)
/r/seduction09/07/22 06:06 AM
5

Models are just people like everyone in the world. They have their own flaws and perfections. They have their strengths and weaknesses. They are human.
/r/seduction09/07/22 05:47 AM
8

I disagree. I’m a musician and I make music because I genuinely love and have an intense passion for making music, not because I want clout. If a song of mine gets big, then that’s cool, but I don’t make music specifically because I want to get famous. Also not true for professional models. There are models who do work for high fashion and are super down to earth. Not every artist is stuck up.
/r/seduction09/07/22 03:26 AM
11

There’s a difference between an agency model and some girl who calls herself a “model” on IG. Agency models are usually much friendlier and down to earth on average than so called “models”
/r/seduction09/07/22 03:15 AM
28

I agree. I really do not care for “models” on Instagram who show off ass pics 24/7 and have pics that are so clearly photoshopped and with filters. Try dating an actual model who works in the fashion industry, they usually look exactly like they do in shoots and on the runway since actual modeling requires genuinely great genetics. They are usually more down to earth than IG models.
/r/seduction09/07/22 03:13 AM
1

Just because you have a lot of options on the surface doesn’t mean you feel like you have a lot of options. And many models actually have the worst options, many of which are either creeps, simps, or douchebags. They rarely meet a normal, confident guy who doesn’t put them on a pedestal that they can connect with like a normal human being. You’d be surprised how many models date average joes. The only models I’ve seen date rich, famous or handsome guys are the top 1% of successful models (Karlie…
/r/seduction08/07/22 10:55 PM
2

Hey babe yes I am real man you wanna go skateboards?
/r/seduction07/07/22 05:15 PM
1

A lot of models value connection and personality more than looks and money from my experience, even more so because they have one of the loneliest professions
/r/seduction06/07/22 01:13 AM
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I think most guys should have a “bachelor “ phase until they find one woman they really connect with. That way they’ll have gained skills to be good in bed (necessary for a relationship to prevent cheating) and also just gained skills with women in general. Most people cheat because they aren’t sexually satisfied in the relationship.
/r/seduction30/06/22 03:20 PM
1

Fix what you can fix and don’t worry about anything you can’t fix
/r/seduction26/06/22 12:30 AM
1

Haha jk - ok actual advice. You have to understand most models are insecure and broke. They don’t make a ton of money and often are worried about their future. A lot of them actually don’t prefer to date male models because they get bored of these men very easily and in some cases feel more insecure around them. Models respond best to guys who don’t put them on a pedestal and treat them like normal girls, and aren’t afraid of them. Most models date average looking guys because they care more abo…
/r/seduction25/06/22 05:13 AM
1

Congrats on getting yourself a model girlfriend. Now go get yourself a harem of models to ensure you don’t get oneitis for this one girl. You’ll be living the dream of pretty much every man on this subreddit.
/r/seduction25/06/22 05:02 AM
0

Women are far more emotional than men, and base most of their decisions on how they’re feeling, which is why we see them going for average or below average looking guys sometimes. Great post.
/r/seduction20/06/22 08:01 PM
10

Well become attractive then. Improve your game, personality, appearance etc and start meeting women.
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:46 PM
1

A lot of the girls I talk to live in different countries, so I’ve only met up with one who lives in my city. My city doesn’t have a great fashion / modeling scene and most models live in foreign countries or NYC.
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:35 PM
4

Me too, it’s like we’re attracted to different types. I’m attracted to tall and thin girls but have also been attracted to girls with vibrant personalities. Attraction isn’t so fixed I guess
/r/seduction20/06/22 07:29 PM
3

Yeah I guess I’m a bit biased towards Tinder since I never got success with it. I’ve had a lot more success meeting models and hot girls on IG. Plus you don’t have to pay anything to meet them on IG
/r/seduction19/06/22 12:02 AM
1

I made a post about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/uil3p9/how_to_date_beautiful_models_via_instagram/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb But basically I’ll reply to the girls story with a cold read or funny comment based on the story. I send this to 10 girls and I can get 2 to reply back. Convo goes on from there
/r/seduction18/06/22 11:57 PM
3

You’ll rarely meet models on Tinder lol. Instagram is much better for meeting models
/r/seduction18/06/22 11:55 PM
1

I don’t even use dating apps nowadays tbh, I primarily use Instagram as my OLD. The quality of women I meet on IG is far superior to women I’ve met on dating apps. Like actual models kind of superior. Also IG allows me to showcase my personality without being super rich or famous, which is very attractive to women.
/r/seduction18/06/22 03:28 PM
1

I consistently get models by DMing them on IG, I prob won’t stop doing IG game for a while tbh. It’s the best dating app in the world
/r/seduction17/06/22 04:50 PM
1

This ain’t math, it doesn’t have to lol
/r/seduction15/06/22 06:55 PM
1

Same here! I think that society (especially the fashion industry) promotes this idea that hot girls are always ditsy, which I find to not be true at all. Many models are actually cool people outside of their looks. They enjoy life, have degrees, and are interested and wise.
/r/seduction15/06/22 04:40 AM
2

Women still prefer to date men in real life than on IG. And I am currently talking to a gorgeous Brazilian model who has 10k followers on IG. I slid into her DM’s. And I have barely 1k followers and am physically a 6. I find that the hotter the girl is, the shittier her options tend to be. They may have more options than an average girl but most of those guys are creeps, douchebags, and beta males who are intimidated by her looks and can’t even approach her. Hotter women want to be seen as peopl…
/r/seduction15/06/22 03:15 AM
0

Or get rich and move to NYC.
/r/seduction14/06/22 08:33 PM
0

If your not that good looking but your game is really good women will find you more physically attractive. They’ll often backwards rationalize that they are physically attracted to you even if they didn’t feel that way initially.
/r/seduction14/06/22 04:35 PM
6

A hot girl getting tons of DM’s on IG doesn’t mean she isn’t lonely and even on IG it’s super easy to stand out because most guys send messages such as “Babe will you fly out to have sex with me?”, etc. Women may have tons of options on the surface, but most of these guys are creeps / douchebags and beta males who try to be friends with her only to try and fuck her. Women (hot women / models included) go for their readily available options, not their best options. So that means it could be a guy…
/r/seduction14/06/22 04:26 PM
9

I did an experiment recently where I messaged 10 normal girls on IG. None responded. Then I messaged 10 models on IG and got 2 to respond. Hotter women respond more to social value (game) than most other women.
/r/seduction14/06/22 04:20 PM
20

I agree with this. Fashion models are even more lonely than most regular hot girls due to them traveling all over the world and constantly being objectified by not just men, but also by their agency and photographers. Because of this they are some of the easiest women to pick up, provided you have game. The whole “models only date millionaires” thing is just not true from my experience and many models actually PREFER average looking guys.
/r/seduction14/06/22 04:18 PM
1

True lol
/r/seduction13/06/22 04:57 PM
1

Facts. Getting rejected a lot is so much fun.
/r/seduction12/06/22 12:24 AM
3

Get yoself a harem of models
/r/seduction06/06/22 04:13 AM
1

Supermodels won’t make you happy lol. When I finally started attracting models I felt on top of the world (and honestly I still kinda do tbh) but I realize that I just want women for clout and not because I genuinely want women. I’m trying to get over this.
/r/seduction04/06/22 01:31 AM
1

Oh absolutely lol. Though being attractive is one thing, literally doing runways of Milan and Paris and being on the cover of Vogue is another. It’s also the fact that these girls are high status as well.
/r/seduction30/05/22 04:47 PM
1

Unless you're a celebrity / CEO / Louis Vuitton runway model, fashion matters very little in seduction. I have been very well dressed since middle school and didn't get a single date untill college when I learned game. I have also seen models (who are supposed to be experts in this area since they work in that industry) with guys who are not well-dressed. Yes, fashion matters... a bit. Just wear a basic T-shirt, cheap white sneakers from Amazon, and jeans / shorts. What matters is being confiden…
/r/seduction29/05/22 02:50 AM
1

Yeah, I’ve heard that LA is mostly social circle reliant, especially with the higher status people there. I agree, maybe I should get to know people through the models I’m talking to. Funny thing actually, a girl I was talking to on IG (a runway model who has done shows for top brands) actually did shows with Bella Hadid and Gigi Hadid. Imagine gaming them both 😶 So I def have a lot of potential in terms of social circle game in LA.
/r/seduction28/05/22 12:21 AM
1

“Hey look at that guy, he’s on a date with a model. I could never get a model! Models are out of my league bro!”
/r/seduction25/05/22 06:13 PM
1

Yeah I’ve heard that too. Public transit is not as widespread and convenient in LA as in Chicago or NYC so I’ll prob either take an uber or cab to places. I’ll check out the promenade!
/r/seduction25/05/22 06:12 PM
1

I’m decently handsome but my confidence is above average
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:07 PM
1

Thank you man!! I’m hella excited! I’m also stoked to finally go out with models. There’s so many in LA I could literally go out with a new model every day lol
/r/seduction25/05/22 05:52 AM
1

Models often look different from each other. Look at Gigi and Bella Hadid, it's not like both of them are blonde lol
/r/seduction25/05/22 03:11 AM
6

No, dating tons of models. Leo is one of the world’s infamous “modelizers”.
/r/seduction24/05/22 09:56 PM
14

Leo Dicaprio is my idol lol
/r/seduction24/05/22 05:39 PM
1

Wow I’m surprised you met an IG model that was actually hot in person. A lot of times agency models usually look just as good in person as they do in photos and on the runway (since you have to have great genetics to be a professional model) and most IG models aren’t that attractive in person because they use makeup and filters. But I don’t have a lot of experience with IG or Onlyfans models so I may be biased. But congrats on the success though!
/r/seduction21/05/22 06:49 PM
1

I’m an EDM producer and can agree lol
/r/seduction20/05/22 11:49 PM
1

Why not date who you’re attracted to? Not every model is shallow and vapid like the media and society makes them out to be. Some girls have a lot of stuff going on and are really nice people and just happen to model. Being a model doesn’t make you a bad person lol
/r/seduction20/05/22 11:46 PM
1

Thank you man! I appreciate it. For IG game you don’t have to have perfect pictures or thousands of followers, just make sure you’re pics are decent, limit selfies and pics of random stuff. Showcase cool things in your life, show that you at least have friends, make sure your follower count is at least 200. Then start DMing girls through stories with a cold read or funny comment. Not every girl will respond to DM’s but for me I can get 2 out of 10 to respond pretty consistently.
/r/seduction20/05/22 07:47 PM
3

Well I will tell you that models are not perfect. Most are insecure and don’t make a lot of money from their job unless they’re Gisele or Gigi or something. Many actually hate modeling after 1 or 2 years and are often very lonely. They don’t get to meet guys that are genuinely interested in them and treat them as people very often. Many of them have no interest in dating male models and many even prefer an average looking guy. You’d be surprised to see many models with broke guys or guys with da…
/r/seduction20/05/22 07:23 PM
1

Yeah that’s definitely true. I’ve talked to a lot of models who are genuinely great and interesting people. One girl had a hobby for fixing motorcycles in addition to modeling which is pretty damn cool. I’m not sure when my “model phase” will end, but I don’t think it will last long. I’m kinda starting to get tired of it tbh
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:08 PM
3

Depends on if you want instagram models or traditional models (runway, print etc) because traditional models tend to care less about looks, money and status than IG models. Also the chance of matching with a model on Tinder is 1/10000. Most girls on Tinder are average looking. It’s much easier to get models on Instagram than Tinder where there’s a higher male ratio than female (that is if you do IG game right). I’ve seen models go out with guys who are not attractive, rich, or famous. It’s all b…
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:03 PM
1

Models are great at expressing themselves
/r/seduction18/05/22 02:37 AM
2

Women don’t care about looks as much as men do, especially very hot women. I’ve seen fashion models date guys who are skinny or have dad bods, short, whatever. It’s about the emotions you make a girl feel. Just because a bunch of incels on Reddit say that all women want chad doesn’t make it true. This has literally been scientifically proven throughout history time after time again.
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:38 PM
1

Yeah fs!
/r/seduction12/05/22 05:27 AM
1

I only date models for a reason
/r/seduction11/05/22 01:36 AM
3

BIG CONGRATS. I try to tell these reddit incels that hot women don’t care about looks as much as you think and are more attracted to personality (coming from a normal dude who attracts fashion models) but here we have actual proof of it. Congrats again, have fun!
/r/seduction10/05/22 11:32 PM
1

The women in Chicago are super friendly and down to earth (that’s the Midwest for ya) and it’s a big city with a lot of density and neighborhoods which puts it on par with NYC and LA. It has a large downtown area with many places to approach (Michigan Ave, Navy Pier, Millennium Park, Gold Coast etc)
/r/seduction10/05/22 07:05 PM
1

I’ve been talking to tons of fashion models during the past few months. It’s made my life better for sure, but I still have my struggles I’m dealing with in my life.
/r/seduction10/05/22 01:23 AM
-5

There was a 5’3 indian PUA named Ramesh who supposedly pulled Maxim models in Vegas. Also Cupid Schmupid, a 5’2 guy who picked up tons of attractive women. Don’t let your height hold you back, it doesn’t matter to women as much as you think
/r/seduction08/05/22 12:48 AM
3

Instagram is honestly way better than most dating apps in the sense that you can showcase more than just looks. Girls can see your cool life, your personality, etc, and I’ve met models and beyond on there. IG should be the number one dating app in the world
/r/seduction08/05/22 12:45 AM
2

Chicago is one of the best cities for single men
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:14 AM
3

I’m meeting them through Instagram mostly
/r/seduction29/04/22 10:17 PM
1

Absolutely. Abundance feels 10 times better when the girls you talk to on a regular basis are models though lol
/r/seduction29/04/22 08:32 PM
1

Nope. Browsed the guy’s profile and he doesn’t have a particularly high paying career
/r/seduction18/04/22 03:24 PM
2

I agree. Also talking to women you find attractive definitely helps with that confidence. I had the same beliefs, I thought I didn’t deserve hot models. i thought I was never going to get a girlfriend. But as I started talking to women more often I realized that women actually are interested in me and I eventually started having confidence.
/r/seduction15/04/22 06:58 PM
1

Hahaha agreed lol This aforementioned model did a show for fucking Versace, you’d think she’d get more male attention. But she doesn’t. Most men are scared of the top women, except for me.
/r/seduction15/04/22 06:16 PM
6

I agree 100%. A well-established runway model told me she is incredibly lonely and she doesn’t talk to a lot of guys that often because she thinks every guy is scared of her. Models really are the loneliest women on the planet.
/r/seduction15/04/22 06:11 PM
4

Watch James Tusk’s rejection compilations. He is a model looking dude who gets rejected by women.
/r/seduction15/04/22 01:32 AM
3

This is exactly why daygame is such a superpower. Most guys don't want to approach, which makes the few who do stand out. Women have told me I've made their day, I don't get approached like this often, etc. It's an amazing feeling.
/r/seduction14/04/22 07:31 PM
2

I’m not selling anything? I just figured out a way to DM girls on Instagram and posted this in case other people need help. I’m not trying to be some PUA sales wackjob, just legitimately trying to help.
/r/seduction09/04/22 07:07 PM
6

Well I am handsome but not model status. And I do have a good Instagram, which I think matters more than being handsome.
/r/seduction09/04/22 07:05 PM
2

Yep. I thought it wouldn't, but it does.
/r/seduction09/04/22 04:40 AM
2

I actually use the same method for DMing girls on Instagram, except I DM random models and usually get 2 out of 10 to respond. I think Instagram is the best dating app in the world, because it isn’t a dating app.
/r/seduction08/04/22 06:09 PM
1

When I visit NYC this summer I’m going to meet up with every single model I’m talking to that lives there. I call NYC “model heaven” because there’s just so many models there.
/r/seduction07/04/22 04:59 AM
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