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Vorobubumgtwanyan/r/MGTOW24/06/19 10:05 AM
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For me it was being made fun of and ridiculed and bullied because I had no interest in touching a wet hole with my dick. It went on and on and on and on and on.. to a point where you eventually start to genuinely believe that something is wrong with you. I'm what you call a 'natural' MGTOW, I've been mgtow before I even knew it was a thing, discovering this sub only helped me form arguments for what I believe in. Oh.. and of course there's the fact that I was raised by a mother with dad never ar…
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 09:54 PM
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Good thing I'm a furry, shit like this doesn't even phase me. At least... not negatively.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 09:46 PM
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I get what you mean in the context of the movie, and I always saw the real world example of "taking the red pill" as "seeing the matrix but staying inside it", slightly different to the movie's red pill. MGTOW would be the equivalent to the movie's red pill, not only do you choose to see the matrix, but you also choose to not be a part of it.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 09:45 PM
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Not only is she selling it, it sold out reaaaally fucking quickly.
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 06:30 AM
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What the fuck else are simps buying it for?
/r/MGTOW05/07/19 06:28 AM
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MGTOW is "Men Going Their Own Way" You go your own way, which I essentially define as striving for self-actualization and internal peace with yourself and external factors. Your way might be different than mine, and our ways are independent of this subreddit. If you wish to strive towards self-improvement, you can do so by reading books on the matter, watching youtube videos etc.. it's not limited to this sub.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 09:58 PM
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I prefer GDS. Glorified Desperation for Sex.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 09:53 PM
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MGTOW are the only men on Earth who aren't extreme simps to a point where they base their entire self worth on a wet hole. Yeah sure, guys will lie to themselves about how "they're not doing it for women" but at the same time they're rearranging every fiber of their being to get women's validation of their existence. They're claim that "they don't give a shit about their validation, they just want pussy." but if you tell them they would get pussy by buying a sex toy or a sex doll, they're call y…
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 09:52 PM
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Posts on this sub do not represent an individual's lifestyle, just their hobby. I wake up, with on my business, go to work, go out with friends, meditate, read, workout etc... But at the end of the day before bed, I like to relax by browsing this sub. And to you, this is the only thing I seem to do.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 09:48 PM
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They're red pilled, as in, they know about hypergamy and female nature. But they base their self-worth and overall humanity on the amount of women they sleep with. Which means they're simps.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 09:43 PM
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It's mind-blowing when you realize just how fucking oblivious men are to this. While coming back home from work in the company's bus, the bus broke down and the driver was trying to start it up again, A woman started yelling at him and asking stupid questions like "Are you planning on driving us or not!??" and the driver just whined "Don't be like that" Eventually when the bus started working and the woman got dropped off, the rest of the dudes started talking about her "Hey.. why are women alwa…
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 09:24 PM
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The house probably smells like a fish market
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 09:41 AM
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Pick Up Artist.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 07:18 AM
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You'd think it would be cool to talk about MGTOW in the manosphere.
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 05:46 AM
7

But... but... she might say thank you Isn't that worth all the money?
/r/MGTOW04/07/19 04:19 AM
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"Don't shame her for wanting to date older men!!!! ....Btw does anyone find it fucking terrifyingly creepy and disturbing how the old dude is into young women?"
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 07:05 PM
2

The behavior of a simp.
/r/MGTOW03/07/19 07:26 AM
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That logic is no different than me buying a pet cat and someone yelling at me "YOU KNOW THAT THING CAN'T MAKE YOU BREAKFAST, RIGHT!??" The fuck is the correlation.
/r/MGTOW02/07/19 07:09 PM
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Being raised like a girl. Being yelled at and shamed for not acting like a man. Not being told how to act like a man, being told you should know that on your own. Being punished for trying to act like a man. Yup.... I would have preferred to have been raised by a guy rather than a woman. Shit was reaaaaally confusing growing up.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 05:51 PM
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If she didn't have children, she'd be spared from jail because it would "isolate her too much".
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 05:50 PM
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The wall takes no priso-
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 05:41 PM
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I fucking love the projection tho. Women will ALWAYS assume that you're unhappy right now unless you get a girl. They need to believe you're unhappy because it makes them feel better. Also, whenever a girl tells you "I hope you find happiness!" because you said you're single, she's not being nice at all. She's talking down to you like a fucking bitch while disguising it as a compliment. Blue pillers will say "Awww, that's so nice of her!" MGTOW will say "Why does she assume I'm unhappy to begin …
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:54 PM
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"I want a man who does the right thing" TRANSLATION: I want a man who will devote his entire life to me for my personal benefit. Any energy he spends on anything other than me isn't right in my eyes.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:51 PM
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They do, but if men's efforts aren't appreciated and are actively shamed and ridiculed, MGTOW is what you get.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:47 PM
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Can you imagine how technologically, emotionally, spiritually ahead we'd be as a society if guys didn't spend most of their brain power trying to figure out how to get women to let them do something which animals already do unconsciously?
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:47 PM
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It is.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:45 PM
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What low price? The world's answer is to just keep increasing the price if you don't buy. Not only are women getting worse since they're voting for more power, but if you refuse to conform, you'll get punished. Each day the punishment will get worse and worse and worse until you conform. And if you do? Well you're disposable, they can just decide to put you on child support or something. The world is literally NEGATIVELY motivating men. Instead of rewarding you for "doing the right thing", the w…
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:43 PM
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Cop 1: Your doll is 2 meters in height but she's an A cup, OBVIOUSLY she's underaged. Boob size determine age, you know. Cop 2: Your doll is bustier than Jupiter itself, but she's 150cm tall. OBVIOUSLY she's underaged. Height is what determines age, you know. Cop 1 and 2: Oh look a barbie doll, she's tiny as fuck... yup. That represents an adult. C L O W N W O R L D
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:39 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/c7nljn/well_guys_it_happened_the_monkey_was_right/
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 03:36 PM
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Aaaaand it's banned starting July 1st.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 06:00 AM
1

But muh wage gap
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 05:57 AM
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They're grasping at anything that might sound decent to blue pillers because they're trying hard to not give the ACTUAL reason; men are not allowed to leave the plantation so we must destroy any tools that'll help men leave.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 05:54 AM
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And then proceed to throw the bucket in the river while stomping away in justifiable anger.
/r/MGTOW01/07/19 05:50 AM
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Don't. You'll be falsely accused.
/r/MGTOW30/06/19 03:48 PM
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There's passion, which feels incredible and amazing as it hits you INSTANTLY but dies within a few years entirely Then there's compassion, it develops soooo slowly, it takes years and you don't even realize it because of how invisible it's presence is to you. But it's stronger than any passion can ever be and it'll never die out.
/r/MGTOW30/06/19 03:47 PM
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1) Being raised like you're a girl because a woman doesn't know what being a man is like. 2) Being angry at you for not acting like a man. 3) Punishing you whenever you do something manly because of her protective instinct. 4) You believing that woman are goddesses, end-all-be-all to your life and that you should feel honored they even bothered talking to you before abruptly leaving. 5) Hating men for doing the slightest manly stuff because that's bad. 6) Refusing to swear, spit, show emotions, …
/r/MGTOW30/06/19 03:44 PM
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I personally believe it's better to be a pessimist; You're surprised when there's something good, so you appreciate it more, and you're already prepared when something bad happens. Now if you're an optimist; you won't be prepared for shit heading your way, and you won't appreciate positive things at all since you're already expecting them.
/r/MGTOW30/06/19 03:21 PM
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Let me guess, he is going to get angry, ask why the dude didn't buy is something more fancy so that he doesn't get embarrassed in front of his friends and he'll demand that he returns it and gets a better one. Oh right, that's only what women do.
/r/MGTOW30/06/19 03:18 PM
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Whenever an obese person dies super early, I find that I'm incapable of going "Oh god! Hoooow-couuuld-thiiis-haaave-possiiblyyyy-happeneeeed." No, my instinctual reaction is "So that was the time of death."
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 02:15 PM
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The worst part around having a daughter is that it automatically makes you gynocentric. Yeah sure you might be red pilled and you might see how bad men have it... but at the same time you wouldn't wish harm to feminism or women's rights because you want to be a good pattern and not inconvenience your daughter.
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 02:11 PM
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When we state "chameleon", we aren't claiming that women lie. In actuality, they're saying exactly what you want to hear, they might even legitimately mean what they say. The issue, however, is that they aren't willing to actually do anything to help men. They're all talk and no do. Any kind of doing they do WILL benefit them in some way and will not exclusively benefit men.
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 06:34 AM
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I don't know the full story, but I've heard something about Elon not being able to get over a woman to the point where it greatly interfered with his work.
/r/MGTOW29/06/19 06:30 AM
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I only post here and on r/halflife found no issues so far.
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 05:50 AM
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Give a girl a bag full of billion dollars and she'll complain and cry over how heavy it is.
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 05:49 AM
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Isn't Elon the dude who had issues with his Mars thing because of a woman rejecting him or something?
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 05:47 AM
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One of the major reasons women are coming here is to attempt to control the narrative. So fucking true. If you're a woman and you post a fucking disgusting description on your dating profile, almost no guys will bother talking to you. But if you're a guy and you post the same exact description, you bet your fucking ass you'll get tons of women trying to police the fuck out of you.
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 05:44 AM
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I was using it as an example for "100% mindless consumption of media", playing video games doesn't automatically make you an npc. But the vast majority of npc's play videos games because they don't really do anything else with their lives.
/r/MGTOW28/06/19 05:28 AM
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"Dying" is referring to becoming an NPC; living paycheck to paycheck, playing videos games, overall consuming resources just to keep yourself alive without knowing why you're keeping yourself alive. EDIT: Holy fuck people keep commenting about the video game thing so let me elaborate; Playing video games doesn't automatically make you an NPC, but the vast majority of NPCs play video games because they don't do anything else with their lives. They're dead. Video games are stimulation for them to …
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 05:59 PM
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She doesn't even bother to show her stomach for proof. Her face is much more important for those donations.
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 05:57 PM
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What good women?
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 02:57 PM
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Well duh, of course they are. Whenever a woman complains about bullshit or creates drama out of thin fucking air.... no one takes her seriously! The horror!
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 02:56 PM
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Man versus.... another man fighting for women.
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 02:12 PM
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The only life destroying addiction that's glorified is "love".
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 02:09 PM
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A lot of women believe that drinking their own period blood will give them super powers. What else can you expect from children?
/r/MGTOW27/06/19 05:53 AM
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Ah, a pathetic white-knight. Based on your lack of composure, I'd definitely not want to trade places with you.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 05:40 PM
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Society is gynocentric. In order to thrive, you must be gynocentric. Google is thriving. Google is therefore gynocentric.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 05:14 PM
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I think so. I'm still not exactly sure what "virginity" is tho since it's nothing physical or mental or how "losing it" is any different than losing any other status label you come up with when you experience something for the first time.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 04:21 PM
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Damn, I wish a woman like that would tell me I'm a good boy so that my existence had some sort of meaning. I'm really missing out, huh?
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 04:00 PM
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Do you actually dare to even imply the slightest iota that a woman should hold even the most minuscule semblance of responsibility for her actions???!??!! ...I guess you're an incel.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 03:51 PM
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Very good Nikita, you have proven that you are able to regurgitate statements from men like a brainless parrot. Now... What will you DO about it? Oh? Nothing? Cool.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 03:50 PM
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Willpower Mean Genes The Sleep Solution Why We Sleep Getting things done The productivity project The happiness hypothesis Maximum achievement Mindset
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 03:48 PM
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"I have friends and family.. so I'm not gonna die lonely if that's what you mean. If you really meant not dying alone, ae you advocating me and my wife commit suicide at the same exact time or.. I don't get your point." "I' have it on good authority that the human race shall not go extinct if I refuse to procreate."
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 03:00 PM
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Hell yeah, I'd rather go after a granny than a younger woman.. because women that age get hotter, right?
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:23 PM
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So how does it feel to be a woman that's over her 20's?
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:22 PM
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But... but... the female-dominated educational system that's ran by feelings and opinions instead of facts told me women can have healthy babies without any problems up to their early 40's!!! Why was I lied to!?? Let's blame men for this somehow!!
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:20 PM
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You know those posts of women looking repulsive without makeup and looking good with makeup? I personally NEVER found makeup attractive because I don't get to see the person, I'm literally looking at a god damn mask, how is that attractive? And when you do see their face, they aren't attractive. I don't understand what the appeal is.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:19 PM
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The wall will spare no wom- ...Well, bio-women at least.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:18 PM
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"O. M. G. Chess is for nerds!"
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:16 PM
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Pro tip; being "red pilled" doesn't automatically exclude you from being a massive simp. Not saying you are, but it's definitely something you need to be aware of. Red pill is just knowledge, simping is a behavior, having knowledge doesn't automatically change your behavior unless the knowledge aligns with your values. Here's an example of how pathetic red pilled men can still be.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:15 PM
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Do the hard work because men are stronger and overall better than women. You should let women make decisions because they're smarter and overall better than men.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 02:05 PM
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See.. posts like these makes me soooooooo glad I'm ace. I'm 22 and my entire life I had 0 desire to date, kiss, fuck, whatever. I just don't fucking care enough about it to go for it. Yet I frequently see other mgtow struggling to not go back to their plantation. It's like everyone is an ex-smoker except me who never tried it and doesn't get it. This is why I say "sex dolls are to mgtow what nicotine patches are for ex-smokers"
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:58 PM
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"Pay for my kids, be a man!!! Woah you can't touch those kids, they're not yours!!!" Sounds like a great deal to me.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:53 PM
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The one that validated his existence by making him feel like a good little boy.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:50 PM
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I once "lied" to a woman when she asked me how much I made from my side job and my self-employed job. It was nothing special, but I intentionally made it look like I managed to stop myself from revealing a huge number and then awkwardly said "not much". I didn't want to tell her and she got the idea it was a very high income.... She was all over me. It was an annoying experiment.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:49 PM
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Indeed. TFM covered this years ago.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:46 PM
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But they do though. It's rather sad. Feminism is nothing more than just concentrated female nature, which is essentially dick envy.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:46 PM
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This lifestyle is so freaking good that I'm 100% open to anyone trying to debunk it. There's people saying "it's bad" and I'm actively begging them to show evidence. That's how much I'm confident that mgtow is the way to live your life.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:43 PM
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I'd definitely give everything I've ever earned for the privilege of being able to dip my dick inside of that thing through the owner's terms only. I mean... what else is there to life, right?
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:41 PM
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"You're the asshole for making such a big deal about her cheating!! Don't you realize that means you did something wrong? She cheated because she wasn't happy with you! Now be a good boy and rearrange every fiber of your being to please your slave master!!"
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 01:14 PM
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The "right one is out there", right? If things don't work out, then 1. naaaah, she's just not "THE ONE", "THE ONE" is out there, you just wasted your time with someone that was meant for someone else. OR 2. She was "THE ONE" and you just fucked up big time by losing her so you're supposed to kill yourself. You fucked up your destiny. You'll be half of a person forever because you fucked up your opportunity to get together with your other half.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 12:59 PM
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I had some chameleon tell me that "she hopes I find happiness", a blue piller would think that's nice, a mgtow questions why the fuck she assumes I'm unhappy to begin with.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 12:57 PM
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"Men have to earn their queen!!" Why don't women have to earn their king? Oh right, that's abuse.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 12:45 PM
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Men already face and embrace challenges throughout life, they embrace it because they know they'll always have something to come home to that'll nurture them. In the past it used to be women. Nowadays it's porn, sex toys/dolls, video games, movies etc.. you know, stuff that nurtures you instead of challenges you. Just like you said, why the fuck would you want another challenge after a day full of challenges..? Hey, I'm not complaining, it works for me, but at least this way a bitch isn't gettin…
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 11:36 AM
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I've always had this idea that whenever you buy a device, it ALWAYS comes with instructions on how to use it, what it's for, how it functions etc.. but you don't come with instructions. So I set out to read the hell out of books that explain the human mind, brain etc and this knowledge seriously liberates you. It felt like playing a game with 100 variables but with no HUD, the knowledge gives you the HUD which allows you to change your gameplay to actually keep you on top of yourself. No more gu…
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 11:32 AM
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Blue pill knowledge: People rule the world. Red pill knowledge: Men rule the world. Mgtow knowledge: Women rule men.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 11:28 AM
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I don't understand why women are terrified of being objectified, you can't say to a girl "You're nothing but a walking fuck hole" without her freaking the fuck out and sending her village after you. But a woman can tell you something like "You're just a brainless jock!" and I'd smile at the compliment that she called me strong.
/r/MGTOW26/06/19 11:26 AM
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For example, let's say that a small kid is climbing on top of some tables, chairs, just to get to a cookie jar that's really high up. If a man would see that, he'd generally stand by and be ready to catch him if he falls, but he's cheer him on to get to the cookie jar. His morality is logic-based, aka, he wants the kid to learn that challenging his abilities is what makes him grow as an individual and that's what'll prepare him to stand on his own two feet later on. If a woman saw that scenario,…
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 03:51 PM
1

Women project their ideals onto men. Women want a man with a good earning potential.. so OBVIOUSLY men must want a woman with a good earning potential, right? Little do they know, or can even comprehend, no man has every gotten off to a woman's degree. Oh and since women are hypergamous, once they get their degrees and are making a lot of money, it'll be harder for them to find a man because they'll ONLY be looking for a man that's making more than them. And the men that are actually making more…
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 01:05 PM
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This is EXACTLY why I hope it actually happens. I WANT things to get worse and worse and worse and worse for men. The more bullshit you have to put up with, the faster men get red pilled, the sooner the suffering can stop, the quicker we can end all of this gender war bullshit. If you actually fight feminism and retards like these, you're not undoing anything, you're just PROLONGING the inevitable decline, causing MORE suffering and death along the way.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 01:02 PM
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How come we need to cancel debt just because women are the majority of the debt holders? How come we are not questioning why men are the minority of college graduates? If men were the majority of debt holders, would you be on board to cancel student debt?
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 12:59 PM
2

They know what it is, they use it to manipulate men because they know men actually care about honor.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 12:54 PM
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Women know men have a "honor" instinct and they exploit the ever loving shit out of that. Even most red pilled men are still huge simps because "they're not quitters! They'll man up and show everyone how tough they are!" But they're actually being manipulated by women to keep playing the game that's rigged against them.
/r/MGTOW25/06/19 12:53 PM
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Woman proceeds to complain to her friends how you're a weak wimp because you let her walk all over you.. by having to pick where to eat.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 11:33 PM
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Man walks in, checks stuff out, gets what he came for, pays, leaves. Woman walks in, proceeds to scan the entire store twice, comes to what she came for, questions if it's a good idea to get it, gets the thing anyway but now she's very nervous, proceeds to scan the entire store one more time to calm herself down, complains to the cashier, leaves angry, gets sad outside, runs back into the store to look at that one thing that caught her eye 3 times to make herself happy again, call girlfriends on…
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 11:30 PM
1

I'm sure a very few people in the demographic indeed have a "fat/obese" fetish. However, I refuse to believe that almost every guy that dates fat women just so happens to have that as their fetish.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 05:25 PM
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Men are SO BLUEPILLED to the extent where they'd feel extreme genuine guilt for not loving an obese woman for something as "trivial" as her looks instead of focusing on much more important stuff like her "soul".
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 05:24 PM
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"Nah man, it's totally because you weren't being a good man. The reason she cheated is because something was wrong with you! You're supposed to take her cheating as a sign of you not giving her what she wanted... so the logical answer is for you to go out of your way to read her mind and give her exactly what she wants. Don't make a whamen be responsible for her own decisions you monster!"
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 05:21 PM
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Well, this is why I got around to not caring. It doesn't mean they have to suffer or whatever, I'm just super open about whatever I eventually want. If they start freaking out, I don't react emotionally at all and they calm down. Also, pro tip: Odds are they'll force you to defend yourself for why it's okay for you to have a sex doll. Instead, you force THEM to defend themselves by making them explain why it's bad. You're not obligated to explain why you won't buy their arguments, they're obliga…
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 05:18 PM
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It's so much more liberating to not have any hope at all. You get to watch people suffer because they're trying and you get to laugh at those fools.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 01:01 PM
2

Or be smart and just get a doll. You pay for her once, and you get to do whatever you want with her, however you want with her, as many times as you want with her. She won't deny you and you'll keep her for life.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 12:59 PM
1

"Teenager, 17" that's fucking a retarded censor. If you're 17, no shit you're a teenager. Just call it as it is, "MALE, 17". They're just trying to make it look like this would have happened if a girl was in this position.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 12:55 PM
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She wouldn't be charged with anything.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 12:52 PM
1

A woman once spent almost half a million dollars on surgery to try and look like a sex doll to compete. Little did she know, it's not the looks that makes a doll's value go up, it's their lack of personality.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 12:10 PM
1

Indeed we do need data on this, it's bothering me that no one ever mentions this. I was hoping people here would share more stories like these instead of just saying "they're crazy."
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 12:06 PM
2

My definition of strength is being able to get back up after being knocked down. Meanwhile, women believe strength is being untouchable.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 12:00 PM
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"B...but... GUYS DO IT TOO!!" Yeah, they just want a wet hole your validation. That's it. Not your money, resources, time, social life, kids, or the overall feeling a sense of power by being able to destroy someone's life and convincing them it's their own fault while at the same time making yourself be the victim in all this.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 11:58 AM
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I should have specified they are't "crazy", more like.. your average thot. Average old lady. Average woman. You stop talking to them but be in the same room with them, they'll fucking start narrating whatever they're doing to no one.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 11:55 AM
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I've also noticed whenever a woman starts losing an argument, she always looks around to see who will stand up for her. Always.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 10:18 AM
3

You're forgetting that the majority of men's self-worth comes from "doing the right thing" regardless of their own happiness or health. "It doesn't matter if I'm 2 million in debt, don't have a room over my head and my wife lied about me raping her so now I'm being hunted by the police.... I HAD A KID so I'm a good man." Likewise.. "It doesn't matter if there's nothing in it for me when I'll fight this war, it's the right thing to do because whamen."
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 10:17 AM
11

I do wonder if the 18+ thing will be changed to benefit women. Like 15 year old girls can now legally have sex with older guys to "combat the slut shaming our society has created to oppress women" Meanwhile men won't be allowed to legally have sex until 18 because... "man up, keep it in your pants, you have it easy what are you complaining about, no one will call you a slut for having sex what's the problem etc"
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 10:08 AM
1

Guys I talk to about sex dolls always try to argue "Hurr just pay a hooker then, it's so much cheaper." And I always say No it isn't because when you buy a sex doll, you pay for her ONCE in your life. After that, she's yours FOR LIFE, and get to do WHATEVER you want with her, HOWEVER you want with her, WHENEVER you want with her.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 09:08 AM
2

There's a woman who spent almost half a million dollars on surgery to compete with sex robots. She lost. See, the appeal of sex robots aren't looks, it's their lack of personality.
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 09:06 AM
11

Kohlberg 6 stages of morality argues that women have the same mental capacity as 10 year olds. Feminists were SOOOOO PISSED at this because 1. it meant women ARE children and 2. this removes their argument "You don't know what it's like to be a woman!!" Yes you do. You just have to think back to what your thought process was when you were 10. Of course they had to go and censor it by making their own thing that's currently being taught in schools "Men have a logic-based morality and women have c…
/r/MGTOW24/06/19 08:57 AM
3

Only cheaters receive custody? Can you elaborate on that?
/r/MGTOW23/06/19 07:08 PM
1

I don't get this meme... How does not wrapping your art around a girl in a picture avoids you getting falsely accused of rape? Whamen: "I've been raped!" People: "No you weren't! See? He doesn't have his hand touching you in this one picture that you wanted to take with him."
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 09:34 PM
1

I like to compare "sex" to sushi. I've never eaten sushi, why not shame me for it and ridicule me because I'm "missing out" on all the sushi I could eat.... probably because it's an experience, like almost any other, where once you do it, nothing really changes and life continues.
/r/MGTOW21/06/19 06:20 PM
16

Imagine a world where ALL men came with guns and if you, the woman, wanted to interact with them, they'd be FORCED BY LAW, WEATHER THEY WANTED TO OR NOT, to point the gun at you. Suuuure, some men might pull the trigger and get heavily rewarded and praised for doing so, but not all men would pull the trigger Soooo..... yeah, I see no reason to take the guns away.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 09:57 PM
28

Unless you're a woman. Then you go gurl!
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 09:03 PM
15

I'll just leave this here. You're welcome.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:54 PM
1

Men's SMV is mostly determined by assets, which is something you can lose and acquire at any time. It's something you don't have at all when you start your life, you're pretty much forced to acquire it yourself. Meanwhile, women start off by hitting the lottery right away, their SMV is determined by their youth/looks/fertility. But they're too "blue pilled" to realize that men aren't gonna masturbate to a woman who has a degree in STEM or some shit, so they end up wasting their lottery ticket an…
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:37 PM
10

You hit the wall when you lose your job. You break through the wall once you're making money again.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:34 PM
3

I don't understand why any mgtow.. or any man with self-respect uses tinder for.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:28 PM
3

I never fucking bothered dating or fucking so I can't relate to "saving money by not chasing girls" to save my life.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:27 PM
9

I've seen this a few times. There's dudes who post on r/feminism asking women for advice on how they can help make other people take feminism seriously. No girl ever fucking responds. Ever.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:12 PM
3

Imagine if women naturally went brain-dead and started worshiping you by the sight of your pecks........ would you fucking be offended by that or like that kind of power? Would you go after the girl who'd be disgusted by women being turned on by something as simple as your pecks or would you give your dick to the girls who drool over your pecks?
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:10 PM
5

"Real men WORK for my pussy!" I have enough challenges I deal with in life, the fuck should I add another one for? "Real men gotta WORK for their queen!" But women don't have to work for a king? Explain why.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:06 PM
17

"BUT MEN PUT A HUGE PRESSURE ON US WITH THEIR HIGH EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT A WOMAN SHOULD LOOK LIKE!!!!" Literally has to ask 5 guys if they noticed her having done something to herself, then gets pissed when they start guessing and not getting it.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 08:02 PM
5

If any "interviewer" wants to interview me, I'll spare you the complicated procedure and give you what you want; I am a dude who wakes up, goes to work, I work out, I have a side business, I hang out with friends, I play videos games, I masturbate, I meditate, I don't have any debt, I have a ton of money saved by living below my means.... I'm a pretty average person, really. Oh and I don't want to date. That's about it.
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 07:59 PM
9

It's not that women can't decide, they're shit testing you, they want YOU to decide so they can covertly confirm who is in charge. In OP's case, his wife wanted to know if she was the one with the balls in the marriage. If OP said "I don't want it" or "I'll let you decide" aka, he'd bee too afraid to go through with it, that would only confirm for her that she's the one that's leading him. OP's reaction made her plan backfire and she wanted to take it back, because again, her goal was to only se…
/r/MGTOW20/06/19 07:55 PM
2

I lost 5 fucking friends to girlfriends, nevermind marriage. 2 of them weren't allowed to talk to me. 2 of them went ape shit and started ridiculing me for being alone 1 of them committed suicide after getting dumped.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 04:48 PM
1

And a sexist is someone who DARES point out any differences between men and women.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 04:42 PM
8

Ah yes, I remember the not so good old days where I used to do favors for girls and then being bullied for expecting something in return. I felt used, I felt like I was SUPPOSED to be used and not have an issue with it AND not ever speak about this unspoken social contract. Good times.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 04:41 PM
3

If they feel like they're a bad person for having needs and desires, they'll commit suicide so they aren't a burden to the world. If they strive towards having their needs and desires met, they'll do what the world actively tells them to do; "WOMEN GET TO FULFILL YOU" but at the same time "WOMEN DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING." So they're trapped in this belief that their entire identity is void unless someone bothers to validate it, which no one has to. They recognize that society has stripped them fro…
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 04:39 PM
1

Shame they're still gynocentric and kidding themselves by being "above" blue pillers because they know how to play the game that's rigged against them.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 02:08 PM
5

CAREFUL! Don't ever let a woman feel like YOU'RE the one who dodged the bullet because you're giving her motivation to go after you and destroy your life with one accusation. Put your freaking ego aside and give her the satisfaction like she's the one who dodged the bullet by not being with you.
/r/MGTOW19/06/19 01:52 PM
1

I know about TV, but I have no idea what the fuck an ITV is.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 08:45 PM
1

What's more is that all the favors that are done for you accumulate for you as a dude. But if you're a woman, the favor that was done for you 5 seconds ago is irrelevant (unless it can help her win an argument), all the cares about is what you're doing NOW.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 08:43 PM
9

"Aww, did your ex hurt you? It's your fault for being the asshole, why else would she leave you? Now stop complaining and pay that child support!"
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 08:39 PM
6

Yeah! Everyone knows that the definition of masculinity is the ability to acquire female validation so you're supposed to rearrange every fiber of your being to please women 24/7! Even if you do everything right and women STILL reject you, that's YOUR fault for not doing it good enough, you gotta try harder! And if you don't want to do that, then you're obviously a pathetic loser who is better off dead because your life has no value unless there's pussy in your life telling you what to do, amiri…
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 08:37 PM
3

Unless she's the 'extreme low self-esteem, nerdy, OCD, ADHD, social anxiety' type... then she's yours and ONLY yours. Weather you like it or not.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:24 PM
5

"I'm divorcing you because you're abusive! You don't let me do what I want!!"
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:22 PM
8

I'm definitely so much fucking happier after realizing the mgtow philosophy was a thing. I used to be mgtow for as long as I knew of my existence, never ever had any motivation to date, kiss, fuck or get married or whatever... The only thing that changed was that I became immune to all the negative feedback after discovering mgtow.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:14 PM
4

You'll make MORE MONEY if you're married!!! :D "Yeah, because you're forced to give most of it away to your kids and wife otherwise you're going to jail + you get to keep a lot less money versus a single dude making less than you, so a single dude making less than you actually makes more money because 1. he is free and 2. he keeps more." Statistics show that you'll be HAPPIER when married compared to single men!!! :D "Why aren't you saying by how much? Is it 100% or 0.005%? Also while you're bus…
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:12 PM
1

That wave was the fucking cherry on top of an already fucking perfect cake.
/r/MGTOW18/06/19 03:06 PM
12

The way masculine men are portrayed nowadays in movies really makes me sad. It used to be that masculine men would.. have a soul? They'd be brave and douchy and funny and mean and likable and guess what.. SCARED. You know, like a human being with the ability to feel human emotions on the whole spectrum. Nowadays, they're so one-dimensional. If he is brave and tough, he's just an asshole. He will go into battle prancing around like a toddler, making one-liners as if he is having fun rather than i…
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 10:34 AM
3

DO YOU DARE NOT ALLOW A WHAMEN TO GET AWAY WITH LYING AND DECEPTION???? Well, you're obviously an incel.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 10:30 AM
5

This hits too close to home. I used to cry and yell at my mom and sisters for help (I was going through depression, anxiety etc..) and they just shoot their heads and said that I was acting like a baby. (For example, I'd say that I was terrified of talking to people, they laughed and said "pretend they're animals") Then one day I started breaking everything in my room and screaming at the top of my lungs at 4 AM. They all rushed into my room and, what a shocking surprise, they had NO CLUE WHERE …
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 10:28 AM
2

I'm sure in a few years, reality will receive it's next patch by feminists where this is no longer available.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 10:18 AM
3

The most shocking moment was how when I was 12, I always saw older girls use thot language, wave their hands and overall their personalities would be phones. And as I got older, I slowly watches my younger sister.. morph into that.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 01:12 AM
4

Not to mention that companies are now required by law to employ women at entirely male work spaces or else they'll be destroyed for "discrimination against women". So the companies will employ women, NOT fire them because the boss doesn't want to go to jail, NOT tell them to do anything because they aren't capable of doing men's work, and then the women will drive the male workers insane about the unfair pay gap.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 12:07 AM
4

That's exactly it. We're nothing more than a bunch of apes in suits. The reason why we get fat is because millions worth of DNA conditioning hasn't caught up with the fact that in the last 100 years or so, we don't have to get up and hunt for food or even worry about it spoiling. The reason why we avoid going to the gym is because our genes have no clue when we will get another opportunity to eat, so better not waste that precious energy if we value our lives. Yet we are sooo disconnected from o…
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 11:49 PM
2

Man: Okay, I fulfilled your request. I became very tall, rich, muscular, confident, enlarged my dick etc... I rearranged every fiber of my being just to meet your demands, now I shall finally have the happy life that was promised to me! <3 Woman: Sweet!!! ....I'm bored, time to steal half your stuff and ruin your life.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 11:12 PM
1

All hail to our god-tier sex toys; spinning robot pussies.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 10:37 PM
3

Repeat after me: F E M A L E V A L I D A T I O N The same guys who will tell you "nah bruh, I don't give a fuck what she thinks of me, I just care about that pussy and nothing more!" will also say you're a loser/failure if you decide to fuck a sex doll. Never mind the fact that a sex doll's pussy and a bio-woman's pussy are identical when it comes to your pleasure. They'd call you a loser because they're deeply afraid of not gaining any female validation, as if their very self-worth as a human b…
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 10:35 PM
6

It's the opposite in my eyes. I see a HUMAN without the makeup on. I have no idea who I am looking at when they're wearing makeup, it's so unattractive.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 09:49 PM
6

A friend actually knows a loophole around divorce rape. Whatever you choose to own, make it so that your parents are the owners. For example, if you driving a car, make sure it's registered to your dad or someone so that it won't be included in the things you'll have to give to your ex. The more things that you use but aren't legally yours, the less you'll have to end up giving during divorce rape.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 08:20 PM
13

When you think about it, it's rather fucked up to be a female. Imagine that the definition of your nature was penis envy. Constantly questioning if you can have it better. Never being satisfied. Perpetually fighting for unsatisfactory results for the sake of being able to complain...
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 08:16 PM
2

Imagine that every man on Earth was REQUIRED to point a gun to a woman's head as soon as he interacted with her. Imagine if women were shamed and ridiculed for not being brave enough to handle men with guns who pointed loaded guns at their heads and could get heavily rewarded with attention if they pulled the trigger. The problem isn't the men, it's the guns they are forced to carry and point at women. When you think of it this way, the argument "NOT ALL MEN WILL PULL THE TRIGGER" gets fucking r…
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 07:42 PM
136

I recommend you guys grow up with a sister. At least one. You won't have to wonder if this is real or fake. In the morning my sister looks like a flawed human being and later in the day she looks like stiffly animated plastic.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 07:32 PM
3

Because of you, we will be able to start complaining about how there's no good men left! Hooray!! We get to complain!! You go goaurl!!
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 04:43 PM
8

She's so hot that she's ready to be served to 10 chads and still have left overs of her remains to feed it to the beta. Roasted.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 03:41 PM
2

I have a problem with being NEGATIVELY motivated to take responsibility for something I have NO authority over. By negative motivation I mean we are punished if we don't provide for a woman. Instead of positive motivation, which would be rewarded for providing for a woman.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:43 PM
5

Beat me to it. Also... "Wonders why guys aren't checking her out" "Wonder's why ATTRACTIVE TALL RICH guys aren't checking her out."
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:27 PM
15

Watching videos of girls proposing and getting rejected is so fucking hilarious. Also terrifying. I wonder if in a few years, men will be forced by the law to marry women.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:06 PM
3

Be a rEaL mAn by sacrificing yourself for someone who fucked up and doesn't give a shit about you.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 01:45 PM
3

Like google.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 01:36 PM
4

Whamen: "Hahaha, look at how fucking pathetic these wimpy guys are! I wouldn't ever want to be with them! :)" Men: "If they're pathetic and wimpy, why aren't you glad or indifferent they're not trying to get with you instead of belittling them?" Whamen: "....Who hurt you, incel? :)"
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 12:42 PM
26

"But.. but... SHE'S NICE!"
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 11:48 AM
39

Their "attempts" are so obviously fucking fake as well. One of my friend's sister tried to commit suicide by lighting herself on fire, she poured gasoline all over herself but failed because she couldn't find a lighter. A female co-worker of mine tried to commit suicide by swallowing some pills 5 minutes before her husband showed up home from work so that he'd be able to stop her. An elementary teacher I had tried to take her life away by shooting herself in the mouth, the gun wasn't loaded but …
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 11:45 AM
42

The reason why women get special treatment is because they have it extremely hard. The reason why it's hilarious when men have it bad is because they have is extremely easy. Honk honk.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:29 AM
240

90% of suicides are male. "Not 100%? ....ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WOMEN'S SUICIDE AT ALL!???"
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:28 AM
6

Give her a bag of 1 million dollars and she'll complain how heavy it is.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:06 AM
28

Don't, too risky.
/r/MGTOW16/06/19 02:04 AM
1

You're either a beta nice guy, or a female.
/r/MGTOW15/06/19 09:51 PM
5

False rape accusations ARE INDEED SUPER RARE! They are extremely rare...... But not nearly as rare as trans people with body dysphoria or shoot shootings, yet those things get significant more attention than false rape accusations. Makes you wonder why. Hmm.... probably because false rape accusations doesn't harm women so it's not a big deal in the society.
/r/MGTOW15/06/19 09:25 AM
112

But.. but... YOU'LL DIE ALOOONE!!
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 10:00 AM
1

What's the significance of 1984?
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 08:23 AM
4

Because your personal preference of what's funny determines what's right and what's wrong.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 08:23 AM
2

Contacts saved under "Free Food" Their names has a description attached to them like "Own's nice car - good for selfies" Other contacts saved under "Potential husband" Their names has a description attached to them like "Programmer - makes $1000 per month"
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 08:15 AM
3

Giving birth is legitimately about as impressive as me taking a shit. Both are automated biological functions that we have no control over. A woman can be brain dead in a coma and she could give birth to a healthy baby. The only reason why women boast about being able to give birth is because it sucks to go through it when you're conscious, that's all. Me eating something and then shitting isn't a skill. The same way how a woman receiving cum and then shitting out a kid isn't a skill.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 08:10 AM
1

And she is shitting out blue pills and shoving them down her son's throat.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 08:07 AM
1

I wonder if we're getting a new Half Life release... last game was in 2007 and doesn't have a conclusion. I wonder how many people literally died waiting for HL3.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 07:58 AM
5

Plot twist; She never dreamed anything, she made it up. I'm excited to see what'll happen by 2050. I bet women will have the right to murder men! All they'll have to do is report to someone that a guy hurt their feelings and the guy will get the death penalty. It doesn't even have to be true! She just has to report it! I GENUINELY want the laws to become that bad, if not worse. Why? Because imagine if even the most hardcore blue pillers thought that avoiding women like the plague was common sens…
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 07:48 AM
2

Women are valuable. But in today's society they aren't your property, and that's the problem. Because everyone is forcing you to be responsible for something you have NO authority over. Why would you agree to a deal like that? Imagine if I employed you and told you to watch over my 3 workers, you were responsible for what they did but you weren't allowed to do anything to them. You'd be forced to watch them fuck up their job and then you'd take the downfall.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 07:44 AM
14

They don't want guys to approach them because that's harassment. They want hot, rich, tall guys to approach them... still could be considered depending on her mood. But in general, when women talk about "good guys" or whatever, they're specifically referring to any guy that'll benefit them.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 07:41 AM
5

Kelly, you realize you can go to the 1-year tech school and get the same exact opportunity... right? Kelly: "But then I won't be able to bitch, moan and complain about how hard I have it!"
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 09:52 PM
2

Exactly. Which is why men are going their own way. Why the fuck would you sign up to be responsible for something you have no authority over? No thank you.
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 09:50 PM
2

Single mothers + soyboys x white-knights = ring price
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 08:18 AM
2

The ONLY thing that gets a woman in trouble nowadays is abusing a FEMALE child.
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 08:11 AM
17

What do you do when your kid misbehaves? You grope their wrist to remind them who is stronger. A reminder that you COULD beat them, but no actual beating necessary. Now why should it be okay for men to curl up and let their women do as they please without resorting to a reminder of who is actually supposed to be in charge?
/r/MGTOW13/06/19 08:01 AM
2

That's like deciding to hang from a building and hoping you don't slip and fall.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 11:41 PM
11

I've lost 5 friends to getting girlfriends. 2 were putting me down for being single 2 kept complaining and groaning about how hard their lives were ever since getting a girlfriend and they were extremely offended when I said I didn't want to hear their bullshit anymore. Because apparently I was denying their entire existence that way. 1 committed suicide after finding out she cheated on him every other week with a new guy while he has forced to spend $40,000 for the promise of sex, which he neve…
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 10:03 PM
2

The guys actually talk about all sorts of things while (so far I've seen) the women only gossip and complain.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 09:53 PM
2

Yes. And they bitch about what's even the point of reapplying makeup in an environment like that. Like... they are legit creating drama out of thin air.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 09:48 PM
2

I definitely agree that women should have rights. Not in a "I hate whamen hurr" way, but in a genuine caring way. It pains me to see women doing whatever they want at the expense of everyone, and ending up miserable because they have no clue what they want. I think it would be a pretty sweet deal if you weren't expected to go to school or get a job that wasn't meant for you.. and you'd end up with a husband that you'd actually love because he'd be automatically higher in status than you. + the h…
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 09:46 PM
3

The company would get sued up the ass for "abusing women" because they aren't physically capable of performing like men. But the company would also be sued by women for not employing them. My favorite example is that one Bear Grylls series where they put a bunch of people on an island and those people have to survive on their own. Season 1 was all men. Women complained about the series not having any women. So in season 2 you had men on one island and women on the other island. By the end of the…
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 09:41 PM
14

You know those girls who only hang out with guys because there's less drama that way? Yeah, there's less drama instead of no drama because she's still there.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 09:35 AM
8

Praise the whamen!! If she didn't call multiple men to help save it, the elk would have died. It's ALL thanks to the whamen! How will the guys who did all the work react? They'll attack anyone who points out how she doesn't deserve credit by shaming them and calling them sexist. How will the other women react? They'll bitch and complain how they aren't getting any credit.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 09:16 AM
35

I just assume that the boss doesn't want to go to jail for "misogyny" or something, so they are pretty much forced to employ women in a workplace that's actually meant for men. And since women can't do the job that's meant for men, they're placed in the office. I get that. However, my post mostly pertains to the way men and women perceive things differently, it's like men work hard towards being happy regardless of circumstance while women work hard towards being miserable.
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 06:31 AM
5

Yes. Rollo Tomassi (who is a pretty big simp, but does have amazing red pill knowledge) explained it very well in his book "The Rational Male". Women's ovulations determine their sexual preferences. When they aren't ovulating, they want a beta nice guy who will pay for their shit. And they will withhold sex from them so the nice guy has intensive to keep running around for her in hopes to get rewarded. When they are ovulating, they want an attractive strong alpha to fuck them senseless like a de…
/r/MGTOW12/06/19 05:59 AM
2

"I want a talking dog!" "Sorry bud, that's impossible." "Oh okay... in that case, I want a nawalt!" "Pffff, you read me like an open book! Talking dog it is!"
/r/MGTOW10/06/19 10:55 PM
3

Seriously. I'm legitimately 100% open to people disproving how MGTOW is actually damaging to the individual without social artificial restrictions put upon MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 09:45 PM
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