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Outer Game VorpalPaperclip/r/seduction08/02/21 04:44 AM
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LogisticsVorpalPaperclip/r/seduction31/03/22 04:02 PM
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Could.
/r/seduction26/06/22 11:18 PM
-1

Its weird and could fuck you up emotionally with all future partners. But, it could be fun!
/r/seduction26/06/22 10:03 PM
1

It really is an amazing guide to dating for men. It isn’t sold as that but once you look at it from that perspective, its like he wrote it to help men.
/r/seduction26/06/22 04:03 PM
40

I had the same realization watching Seinfeld. My favorite was when he walks up to a woman and says, “Do you like these pants?” Seinfeld’s attitude is perfect. He just doesn’t give a shit if the woman isn’t interested, but he’s really happy if she is. Perfect!
/r/seduction24/06/22 03:09 AM
2

As others say, go for a kiss, that sorts that out immediately.
/r/seduction24/06/22 02:54 AM
3

Pound sand, find someone that doesn’t lead with drama.
/r/seduction24/06/22 02:39 AM
4

Don’t tell her how you feel until she starts that stuff or you will be watching her from a distance and obsessed with getting her back. People aren’t attracted to another person becAuse the other person really likes them. Your job is to be attractive, not falling all over yourself to let them know you are crazy about them.
/r/seduction14/06/22 06:43 PM
3

Nope! Too messy. Keep clean, especially if you like the line of work you are in. Fuck this up and career—-over.
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:27 PM
1

Don’t worry about the “relationship “ title. Just enjoy it, and let her feel absolutely free by not pressuring her. You don’t have to tell her “your free sweetheart “ or whatever but if you can let your needy desire to coral her into a named relationship go, she will probably just fall for you over time. If not, you can keep having a good time and look for a chic that likes a title to go along with all the nice dating activities.
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:22 PM
8

If you left it open for her to contact you and she hasn’t, move on. Please don’t do #1. That’s so weak! Ugh. If she contacts you, ask her out otherwise you really wont ever know what happened and just be ok with that.
/r/seduction13/06/22 07:04 PM
2

Sorry man, but you can’t buy what they are selling. You can’t buy experience or skill. That’s where this idiom comes from though: “A fool and his money are soon parted.”
/r/seduction12/06/22 02:23 AM
2

Masculinity in in the eye of the beholder, just like femininity, beauty. No matter who you are or try to be, someone out there will love it and someone out there will hate it.
/r/seduction11/06/22 07:22 PM
4

Keep things mysterious without being mean? Smile and withhold some things but give freely when its fun. Maintain your boundaries and respect your needs first.
/r/seduction10/06/22 12:51 PM
1

Ok, just as an experiment, ask her to go out and help you find some new women to date. Ask her to help you choose some better clothes and new hair style and cologne. See what she does.
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:36 PM
3

Women do this all the time! My current gf says that about a bunch of dudes but she despises them. They either want their validation or don’t want to hurt their feelings. Its totally natural and its fine, but really they don’t want to touch you but they want you to want to be with her. It makes them feel desirable or prevents assholes from getting angry. Just be nice and say good bye.
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:31 PM
3

They are just trying not to hurt your feelings. Tell them you want to move on and wish them a safe life and find people that want to be your friend (or more!)
/r/seduction09/06/22 02:21 PM
1

Maybe its the same guy that complains about how much he likes penises.
/r/seduction07/06/22 10:19 PM
3

You came to a place that is fixated on getting laid by mostly young dudes to ask this question?
/r/seduction07/06/22 09:58 PM
3

I think investing time into reading tea leaves and tarot cards is the first order of business. You can’t rely on zodiac stuff any more, that’s been taken over by computers.
/r/seduction06/06/22 06:24 PM
2

Your parents really want to find out their kid is being molested by an adult. What could go wrong?
/r/seduction06/06/22 03:09 AM
1

You can be kind, you can be honest, just don’t fear emotional difficulties. Think of dating like a sport. You win some you lose some but you play because you aren’t afraid of losing.
/r/seduction03/06/22 11:52 PM
3

I don’t think actively trying to modify your mind is all that helpful. Just observing it while it does its thing exposes your conscious, observing self to its behaviors. Attempting to change it like you are could be part of the same self sabotage because that in and of itself is a defensive act. Your brain is trying to stay safe, but you are safe. Our minds react to emotional and physical pain exactly the same way, your brain thinks you are in physical danger so it’s reactive… If you do nothing …
/r/seduction03/06/22 03:38 PM
7

Get your heart broken enough to where that trauma outweighs the childhood trauma? Actually I think its better to just let yourself feel that but don’t do anything. Watch your brain spin around in circles and don’t try to stop it. Eventually you will/may be able to separate the unconscious mind that is trying to attach to someone that you want to push away because you need to repeat your trauma so that your brain recognizes the pain which is also your brain’s love chemical trigger…that’s how your…
/r/seduction03/06/22 03:13 PM
1

Some women like flirting and enjoy your attention and just think it’s funny that you texted. Some will be so intimidates that they wont answer because they just know it will never work. I would stop trying to figure out what other people are thinking and respond to actions. -she did not respond, therefore you move on. Easy! Any other reaction is chasing your tail.
/r/seduction01/06/22 08:29 PM
2

Move on, its just like online dating. They will often give numbers or say pleasant things because they don’t want to hurt your feelings. Its not personal, they just aren’t into you. You did you job, you found out what you wanted to know.
/r/seduction01/06/22 04:16 PM
6

Because they don’t want your baby? Even with birth control there is a chance they could be stuck with a baby from someone they do not want to look at every day.
/r/seduction30/05/22 01:38 PM
6

I detect sardonic attitude and see a lean towards incel… good luck with that.
/r/seduction30/05/22 01:37 PM
2

“Anything you wanna ask me?”
/r/seduction28/05/22 08:53 PM
1

You should have asked her for her info pretty quick, its a great way to find out if she is attracted to you. If she isn’t she’ll make up BS excuses and then you can stop wasting your time trying to find out from her random signals and what other people think. Be direct, “Hey, I have busy night but I’d like to talk later, what’s your number?” Get the number and move on with your night. If she is really in to you, she will follow you around casually or even intentionally. Call in a couple days, se…
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:54 PM
1

You are thinking way too hard about this. Your mindset seems needy and desperate for her attention. Women think of men as a catch if they are attracted to them not, “that guy likes me, I am so lucky…” If you want a woman’s number, ask her, not her friends. That is rude to them and shows zero self confidence.
/r/seduction27/05/22 03:48 PM
29

Confidence. You can’t fake that. Achievements can build confidence…maybe do that?
/r/seduction27/05/22 12:55 PM
1

You need to build your self confidence. Its going to take work like therapy and exposure and some positive partners. You’re better off talking about this till you meet a girl that is willing to help you through it, knowing some will leave or see you as weak, but once you find one that can relate to your insecurities and help work through it, then you will be able to laugh at your current state and enjoy your life. Otherwise your just going to make it worse.
/r/seduction27/05/22 11:58 AM
1

Just get your therapy. Ffs man, its ok to like whatever you like!
/r/seduction26/05/22 01:31 AM
1

This is the opposite and related effect if people being more attractive when they have a partner. They seem less needy and that is attractive to you.
/r/seduction25/05/22 09:28 PM
-6

If asking someone what they are doing is sexual assault to you, yes. I am sure you can find a lawyer that will help you sue someone for asking you what you are doing twice in one evening.
/r/seduction24/05/22 07:24 PM
18

Walk up and say “hi, what are you doing in the next half hour?” If he looks alarmed and wants to run away, then you wait till he is drunk and try again.
/r/seduction24/05/22 04:45 PM
3

Might = “I don’t want to hurt your feelings but actually I am done with you. We can drag this out if you want but it would be sooo much easier if you took the hint and left me alone. But go ahead and leave the door open by not being angry… I might come back if you are really cool about me blowing you off.” Your response where you put it on her to let you know if she was interested was fine. Just don’t contact her anymore…
/r/seduction24/05/22 01:47 PM
1

She could be thinking the same thing.
/r/seduction23/05/22 06:42 PM
1

Call your HR department and ask them?
/r/seduction23/05/22 05:36 PM
31

Read the book! Its pivotal for many. Its not a rule book, its a mindset modifier.
/r/seduction23/05/22 12:01 AM
7

She’s married. And failing…do you want the husband visiting you with a baseball bat and some scissors?
/r/seduction21/05/22 10:02 PM
0

“Hey Sarah, I am ready to end our dating relationship, I have enjoyed getting to know you but I don’t want to continue seeing you.”
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:36 PM
1

Yes, huge improvement. I am a different person, I like myself and 90% of my neg thoughts don’t even occur. The one’s that do, I can shut down or start working on changing that issue without feeling bad about the realization.
/r/seduction19/05/22 01:32 PM
6

Somewhat…BBW dating sites are there far a reason. Your attractiveness can be stronger to larger or smaller groups of people and the smaller the group, the more difficult to find people that are attracted to you. But all you really need is one or two every once in a while unless you have an unhealthy obsession with people adoring you.
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:27 PM
15

You don’t do anything about what you “lost”. Treat her like a bratty sister, with underlying kindness and affection but outwardly a little bit dismissive like you are enjoying teasing her. If she is rude in person, shrug it off, and smile like you know she wants in your pants. Whatever you do not show fear, anger or sadness. All the other chicks will see this as you being unsafe and immature.
/r/seduction18/05/22 02:54 PM
33

Its a joke. Ratings are ridiculous. Nobody has a line up that they choose from. Its really a yes or a no that matters.
/r/seduction18/05/22 12:28 PM
99

That varies based on the guy. A 10 to a fake tanned gym rat will be very different to a vegan, goth kid. Stop worrying about it because thinking about it knocks you down 3 points. Also rating people like that is dumb, the rating should be 1-6. That makes way more sense…
/r/seduction18/05/22 11:06 AM
2

Late 20s? Sure! It’ll happen, just put yourself out there and have you boundaries and be clear about them. Allow yourself to change your mind and just be safe. It should be fun, don’t take yourself too seriously or it might build unnecessary frustration.
/r/seduction18/05/22 04:27 AM
1

Learning that what other people think about me is not my responsibility. Also, and maybe more importantly, that people are more concerned with how I feel about them and really don’t care how I feel about me. Not letting women know that you like them actually hurts their feelings. Hiding positive appropriate feelings can actually make people feel bad and doesn’t help me feel safer.
/r/seduction17/05/22 07:57 PM
1

Again, nothing to do with seduction. Go see a sex therapist so you can figure out who you are and embrace that. Trying to figure out what other people are doing and why is just not your responsibility. Your posts seem like the kind of thing the police investigate after a terrible incident where something upsets someone so much they hurt people. Please find a helpful accepting community that you can feel ok in that doesn’t hurt people they don’t understand.
/r/seduction17/05/22 02:34 PM
1

Or you could learn to be less affected by rejection. I assume your aversion to this is driven by fear or you wouldn’t care about it all. If that’s true, you can work on why, and how to move past it. Or you can head to the incel sub reddit (is there one?) and hang out with them. Manning up is a stupid phrase. Perhaps, become more centered would be a better three word phrase to carry around.
/r/seduction17/05/22 04:16 AM
12

Well, you complimented her on something she had on social media..don’t do that, it puts you in the “fanbase” then you sounded needy by asking what’s wrong… this is subtle, but the fact that you are here, posting a lot of frustration about one chick tells me you come off as thirsty and desperate. Chicks have so many options online with dating and if you show a little weakness or neediness, they will turn to the guy that is more entertaining. Just move on, women don’t function based on our needs o…
/r/seduction16/05/22 11:39 PM
24

Maybe stop sending her texts. Let her think this about you. Match her interest level, stop chasing.
/r/seduction16/05/22 05:10 PM
1

None. Go expecting to learn, figure out if she is good for you and not be so desperate that you need a crutch to be ok. Have a few with her maybe…but you don’t them!
/r/seduction16/05/22 03:11 PM
2

Same problem(?) here mate, I’m late 40s and look mid 30s. People always jaw drop when I tell them my age. I can barely grow a beard, just not a hairy guy… This become useful when you are older because women in their 20s want guys that are in their 30s. When you’re 45 and your mates look 65, this will be a good thing! Just keep eating healthy and stay out if the sun!
/r/seduction16/05/22 02:19 PM
4

What has this got to do with seduction? Also…who cares what anyone thinks about sexually. That’s their prerogative.
/r/seduction16/05/22 01:58 PM
2

You shouldn’t be talking shit about anyone. That just tells people that you will badmouth them behind their back later on. It says, “You can’t trust me.” When I meet people like that, I do not engage and try to bail out of conversations with them. Saying negative things about other people is purely expressing your own insecurity and the reason aggressively machismo men do this. They feel insecure and need to make themselves feel more powerful by crapping on others. (This has broad social implica…
/r/seduction15/05/22 01:13 PM
1

She moved? Why do you care? Also, not your job. Also, can barely understand your lingo.
/r/seduction14/05/22 11:51 PM
2

You just didn’t know that you were afraid to let her go and held onto some hope of not being lonely. When a woman asks for friendship, she sees you as a person that gives attention and serves a purpose in her life, but you aren’t getting what you want and its hard to reject her because you feel like its mean to say no. But really, saying no to being friendzoned is being kind to yourself, and if you aren’t supportive to yourself, you wont seem reliable to anyone else.
/r/seduction14/05/22 03:17 AM
12

Pass! I am having an awesome time with someone and our first in person meeting was in a park. She came with dirty clothes after having been out horseback riding. Her interest was high and that’s what you want.
/r/seduction13/05/22 02:23 PM
1

I went on a walk in a park and that worked. If she is attracted to you it isn’t a big deal what you do. If she is looking for something special and expensive…well, that’s up to you how you feel about that.
/r/seduction13/05/22 11:15 AM
0

Maybe it was rubbing your boner on her. Kinda cringy.
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:47 PM
19

“Not interested in being friends but if you change your mind, look me up!” Don’t reach out again, if she does, ask her out, if she avoids it then just pleasantly tell her you are in the middle of something and have to go. No need to express anger or frustration. This is the woman’s department in almost every situation.
/r/seduction11/05/22 10:52 PM
4

You have time. Use it. To be successful, you’ll want to intentionally dedicate a period of time, at least a couple years , maybe 3 to work on this issue in, yes, therapy, but also reading books, attempting things you never have. Accept failure but not as an end but a square on a giant spreadsheet of experiences. I had time. I didn’t figure out my issues until my mid 40s. I stopped accepting my existence as I had always accepted it. I had always thought, “I can’t change, this is who I am.” But, l…
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:12 AM
1

Its fine, but also its wonderful to leave them alone if they don’t respond positively. Sometimes they will pretend and wishful thinking makes it hard to tell in the moment. Try it but only to see if you can read their body language, experimentally not with any desire to achieve a goal. “Hey, what’s up, do you like these shoes?” Or some inane question that requires a response…If she looks scared or annoyed, “that bad huh?” Smile and walk away. If she engages in any way that shows that she is glad…
/r/seduction10/05/22 10:02 PM
1

Stop texting her. Say something that shows you need to get to something important and to catch up later. In a couple weeks reach out. If she blows you off leave her alone.
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:28 PM
7

I wouldn’t get locked down in college. The desire to replace you familiar family unit is strong if you have that history, but you can land that later. You want to be free to move when you graduate for that awesome job instead of waiting for your underclass girlfriend to graduate.
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:23 PM
1

I don’t think those will fit me but its really sweet! Thanks!
/r/seduction10/05/22 09:20 PM
5

“Hi, James, Ask me out.” Done.
/r/seduction09/05/22 04:45 AM
1

I suppose that can be true as well, but its always a risk with anyone no matter what they say or how they have acted in the past. Once your boundaries are established, you have to stick with them. If they cheat, its over…if that’s a boundary.
/r/seduction07/05/22 06:16 PM
15

This is none of your business really. If she likes you and you are meeting each others’ needs. Who cares? If she starts talking to you about exclusivity, then it starts to matter. If you want someone that is totally loyal, you need to find someone that is extremely attracted to you. It doesn’t matter how you feel about her…that wont cause anyone to be loyal.
/r/seduction07/05/22 03:46 PM
1

Mysterious even.
/r/seduction06/05/22 11:10 AM
2

A gentleman does not…you know the rest.
/r/seduction06/05/22 03:52 AM
2

Not there yet…and still is the wrong word.
/r/seduction06/05/22 03:42 AM
3

Not any more. I was for 17 years.
/r/seduction05/05/22 10:01 PM
19

Dude…I am almost 50, I am having a great time. Live now, not in your past.
/r/seduction05/05/22 08:05 PM
2

I think what’s missing here is that you’ll be way better off with a woman that is attracted TO you, not that YOU are attracted to. Women are attracted to confidence. Being physically attractive is a good lead in but if you’re an attractive doormat, you will be treated as one. If you base your actions in attracting women, your mindset is more doormattish than if you are trying to accomplish and succeed at something (beside getting laid) because doing that activity is attractive to women.
/r/seduction05/05/22 06:08 PM
1

Call her? “Hey what’s up, sorry I was a jackass..”
/r/seduction05/05/22 02:58 PM
3

You blocked for a reason… have some self respect.
/r/seduction05/05/22 02:56 PM
1

No. Be a great student, bust your ass accomplishing difficult things so you feel good about yourself. When you feel better about yourself you wont be so desperate about women and wont need to lie. You can just be someone that is happy in their life and women will be attracted to your positive confidence.
/r/seduction05/05/22 11:16 AM
5

They would almost never say that to someone they don’t want to have sex with. Doesn’t mean they will have sex with someone they say that to, it just means, in that moment, they are open to having sex at some point in the future. I had one woman say, I am not having sex with you tonight…out of the blue, I wasn’t even thinking about sex much less discussing it. well, she didn’t but I could have taken it there if I hadn’t been such a chicken shit. A lot of women get emotionally attached once they h…
/r/seduction04/05/22 07:56 PM
1

I wouldn’t assume you would want to meet her again. She might be a nutcase. This is a meet and greet and maybe find out she is worth your time. Call her after the first meeting and ask her out, if you are at all interested. Don’t mess with next dates in person, especially with the chappy. If she initiates, certainly make the date though. I’d try and kiss her with the chaperone there if I liked her. If she turns cheek or avoids, don’t worry about it and let it go with a smile! She will contact yo…
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:36 AM
1

Women are afraid (as in fear not just irritated by) of abusive assholes, I’d give her a chance if you are into her, it would be good practice to see how you handle yourself in a weird situation.
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:30 AM
2

Should be fine to meet in person at a busy cafe or a busy public park as a first meet without a chaperone unless she is 16 yrs old or something like that.
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:19 AM
1

I could skip it all together. But very light amount is OK.
/r/seduction04/05/22 02:17 AM
1

Older women probably look at you and think you are 14 or some kid that has mommy issues or wants someone to take care of them. Women, especially in their 30s typically want secure, confident men that are in charge of their own destiny. If they don’t have a family, its very common that they are wanting to make one… You’re hitting up the wrong age group.
/r/seduction04/05/22 01:05 AM
11

Achieve a difficult task in your life. Make progress in something that has always held you back (besides women) and you will feel so good about yourself that you wont care about how they treat you. Then, you wont feel needy.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:22 PM
16

Primarily, you should quote Barry White songs.
/r/seduction03/05/22 12:30 PM
18

Or, predictable… The one time you weren’t making a “real” approach and the woman was willing to talk to you…huh! Wow!
/r/seduction02/05/22 04:10 AM
4

She could possibly read your interest level and defensibly just cut you off because she isn’t in to you and is terrified of having to reject you. This could be possible with a very avoidant person that has been hurt several times by parents, friends, etc., especially if she is beautiful…the beautiful ones have been rejecting people everyday since they were visibly women.
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:48 PM
48

Don’t drink, and get comfortable with her. Its not going to hurt to discuss this with her if she really likes you and it will help you relax. This happens to many of us and it’s totally normal if you are nervous and anxious. You will be fine.
/r/seduction29/04/22 07:33 PM
1

No, online is all fantasy. You might enjoy it though.
/r/seduction28/04/22 08:50 AM
167

Because you aren’t desperate and that equates to their safety. Confidence is #1 with women and not giving a shit is a way to display confidence.
/r/seduction27/04/22 06:06 PM
1

You don’t have to choose either of them! You have a long time ahead to find someone that is awesome and treats you better! You are basing this decision on what? Believing there are only 2 men in the world? Oh no… Say goodbye to both people and get some emotional strength for yourself so you never, ever feel like you need to put up with lying or “subspark” relationships. Nobody is perfect but at least find yourself attracted to someone that treats you with respect. Its ok to be alone for a while …
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:53 PM
5

Just roll with it and keep making moves on her and crack a big smile when she resists. Try touching her, kissing her, etc. if she resists, tell her you can’t resist her and if she wants to hang out, you’re gonna keep wanting to kiss her. She will get tired of it or give into her own desires and reciprocate. She’s young and doesn’t know what she wants. Its OK if you let her find her way with you or finds out that guys think she is hot and want to sleep with her. Maybe she figures out she is bi- o…
/r/seduction26/04/22 08:10 PM
1

Hope the money is good!
/r/seduction20/04/22 11:23 PM
2

The girl I am seeing, and she is showing me she likes me, being a gentleman here, in every way! She had a couple of dudes she talked to all the time that she had friend zoned because she liked the attention and wasn’t really aware that they were into her until she told them about me…Doh! They learned as you are learning…phone calls and texts are not dating…you are just a man buddy that they fill their space with until someone that really does it for them comes along. Its not really their fault a…
/r/seduction20/04/22 09:18 PM
2

Solidify immediately and if tour schedule matches up. Then, stop chit chat and say you will see her then. If she wants to keep texting that’s fine but overdoing can waste great in person conversation. I say, “That sounds like a great in person conversation to have!” Or something like that so she can tell I am interested but busy. She might have had another dude lined up and is seeing where that goes…this may have nothing to do with you, just hang tight and wait for a while.
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:43 PM
2

Its about achieving something and that builds self esteem and self worth. Every time you grow or conquer something, even something small, you feel valuable and that makes you more confident and that….makes you attractive!
/r/seduction19/04/22 01:55 PM
1

What’s with hinting about going out? Be definitive and say, “I would love to meet you, when’s a good time to get a drink?” Or whatever…”I like what I see so far let’s get together, in person, I wanna see for myself!” She probably got bored.
/r/seduction19/04/22 01:51 PM
4

You sound hurt. Women are testing you and if you get emotional about rejection, they did their job, weeding you out. You make them feel unsafe when you get angry. It shows you are thin skinned and easily upset. This is not what they want. They want a man who is confident no matter what BS they throw at them. Your job is to weed out the ones that throw unnecessary negativity in your direction. Be happy they showed you they are jerks and leave them for the guys that have no center and believe that…
/r/seduction16/04/22 03:06 PM
2

Just remember that women can read body language like a book. They learned to do this early because while you were learning about pokemon, they were growing breasts and weird old men and teen age boys were leering at them. They are years ahead of you and can tell from your body language when you walk in the door of the club. If they are interested, they will be receptive but this has been an hourly occurrence for them since 12 yrs old…You just started…its not personal, just be a kind person and m…
/r/seduction16/04/22 01:18 PM
1

Just go straight for what you want. Ask for her number. If she says no or rejects you later, what difference does it make? Hi, your hot, number in phone please! Call her later, she blows you off and you move on. You lose NOTHING. Or she blows you, you win! She’s not going to hit you right there in yhe club. And even then, smile and bow out!
/r/seduction15/04/22 06:42 PM
1

It all depends on if they are into you. If they are, you don’t have to think about it that much.
/r/seduction15/04/22 06:26 PM
5

Slow your roll on the marry her shit. That will chase ANY woman away. Next time tell her she’s cool as shit or whatever and give her your phone and tell her to put address in. Don’t text, call her and ask her out.
/r/seduction15/04/22 06:18 PM
26

Sex makes strong brain chemistry. It will change things.
/r/seduction14/04/22 03:11 PM
1

There are other men. Why suffer through this? He isn’t a puzzle you have to solve and you aren’t married. Get out while the getting is good!
/r/seduction14/04/22 11:10 AM
1

Stop, if it works her life is ruined.
/r/seduction14/04/22 04:41 AM
1

Its your decision. Get help, therapist, self help books, life coach… whatever man.
/r/seduction14/04/22 03:24 AM
1

Dont use us for a suicide note, please get help. Call a hotline, please, respectfully. If you want to improve, get after it, work through it, its hard but you can do it.
/r/seduction14/04/22 02:21 AM
5

Now its your turn to do the opposite. Focus on beating that shame and make yourself into who you want. Don’t wait till you are 50. You can get there by age 30! That sounds harsh but it takes a lot of work to totally change yourself. You will start feeling way better in a few months and peel off layers and see more… so worth it…I started at 46. I am almost 50 and I made it!
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:43 AM
1

Its all they hear from men everywhere… its boring and a simp thing to do. To them, you’ve pedestalized them but they want you to be the prize because that way they feel like they caught the better guy that has real self worth! They want you to be attracted to them, shown by asking them out and being confident in that self worth.
/r/seduction14/04/22 01:38 AM
3

Nervousness of first time with her maybe.
/r/seduction14/04/22 12:00 AM
1

Totally doable. Confidence comes from actually doing things you believed you couldn’t. Do something that has always been hard for you in your life…actually making the effort to do that can give you the confidence to date sober because you believe you can.
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:30 AM
1

You can make sparks, if you want to. You have to test quietly if there is any interest…does she move towards you when you move away? Does she linger at all when you are close and facing her? Does she kiss you back? If you don’t know the answer to any of these, make sure you find out with your next date, whomever it is with.
/r/seduction13/04/22 04:20 AM
2

Oh, I interpreted the shared flat as to your future with her, not having a car, not that you shared a flat now. I think that’s fine, saying you have that. If she runs, it saves a lot of time.
/r/seduction12/04/22 10:15 PM
9

You jumped from loving where you live to moving in with someone very quickly. I would just be yourself and if she asks about a trip that requires a car, rent one together? If that turns her off, tell her you love your life, and ask if a car is very important? She can leave if it doesn’t suit her.
/r/seduction12/04/22 09:46 PM
1

Nah, that’s all good stuff but one thing you might be missing is that you are trying to control emotions related to attraction. I think its better to let them (emotions) do whatever they want and be ok with any outcome… Otherwise you are doing the covert contract thing. Put all you got into being who you wanna be and accept no responsibility for what anyone thinks about your choices. If a chick digs you for you, its so easy that you don’t have to do anything but what you are doing anyway. If you…
/r/seduction12/04/22 03:50 PM
1

But then it wouldn’t be exciting…if flying on a zip line wasn’t scary, it wouldn’t be thrilling. I think the problem is being afraid of rejection. The thrill of being interested in someone is not the same thing.
/r/seduction12/04/22 03:10 PM
3

It wouldn’t be fun if it didn’t.
/r/seduction12/04/22 11:14 AM
13

It is misidentified as confidence.
/r/seduction12/04/22 11:11 AM
2

I think you need to address why, and deal with that with a lot if introspection and maybe even therapy. Also accomplish things that are hard, that are somewhat risky and you will fail at.. basically persevere over difficult things to gain confidence. If you don’t deal with it, you are just covering it up and it will return.
/r/seduction09/04/22 01:49 AM
1

Other people’s feelings about you are not your responsibility.
/r/seduction05/04/22 01:01 PM
1

Don’t ask a girl how she feels about you…cringe! Either make a move, or don’t…you can do this without caring what the answer is but yeah, don’t shit where you eat… If she goes hard for you, and it’s obvious, that’s a better situation. Otherwise do the James Bond money penny thing and leave it there.
/r/seduction04/04/22 03:21 PM
2

Lick the ice cream like you are sucking him off? Guys are pretty easy to seduce… Try this line: ”Hey lets go see if your sheets are clean.”
/r/seduction04/04/22 03:12 AM
0

Send her a pick of Nixon in black and white?
/r/seduction01/04/22 03:45 PM
6

Run away. Change your PSN password.
/r/seduction01/04/22 03:43 PM
1

No more Mr Nice guy! Its a book, read it!
/r/seduction29/03/22 10:38 PM
0

Do you have plenty of shit to do that means you only stay at home alone because you really just need some solo time? Friends, hobbies, extra work that you love? I found that once I had all that, caring how well I am received by women…or anyone for that matter became irrelevant. I can now see women being interested in me where I couldn’t see it before…all I could see was my insecurity reflected back and making up reasons why I was not attractive to them. Most people really want your attention and…
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:56 AM
5

You appear to be attempting to describe confidence.
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:18 AM
2

I feel this, but ignore her. If she makes a serious move, that’s your opportunity, but remember it is very risky, probably not worth it!
/r/seduction24/03/22 06:22 PM
3

Consider: Option 1: “I would like to have a physical relationship with you, please kiss me.” Option 2: Go for a kiss once and take rejection respectfully and with dignity. Which is more attractive?
/r/seduction24/03/22 05:20 PM
14

You are emotionally invested in someone that is fucking other guys and you haven’t met her in person… Have you spoken on the phone, or video chatted? You are right, she hasn’t cheated on you but she is just soaking up your attention, and will keep doing it, making excuses as to why she wont meet you. This behavior is very unattractive. It says, I have no self respect, I will listen to you tell me anything just so you will pay attention to me. You are a groupie to her, like an instagram follower …
/r/seduction18/03/22 11:02 PM
41

You haven’t met her? Dude, move on, you are just an orbiting male therapist that validates her actions and keeps taking it. Stop being a doormat.
/r/seduction18/03/22 10:29 PM
3

With your attitude, you would hate anywhere. I really think you must have gotten a raw deal with your childhood and would benefit from therapy, and coaching to regulate your mind a bit. Your clearest and best thinking is not sounding like its coming from a healthy place. AN escort would probably reject you because you are scary, just because you are willing to pay it doesn't mean they are required to do what you want. ​ You gotta love yourself before anyone will love you and you sound like you h…
/r/seduction10/03/22 06:08 AM
7

You gotta do some work on yourself. Whining about your situation is the opposite of seductive. Sorry man, your gonna have to stop caring about this to get there and the best way is to focus on something else. ​ Women are going to lie to you because your attitude it going to be scary to them. They can sense your emotional state from your body language. ​ Good luck and hope you find some peace.
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:36 AM
3

To my 16 yr old self: Nobody gives a shit about what you are thinking, they can’t hear your thoughts and nobody is watching your every move. (Why I thought that at 16??? Santa??🤷🏻‍♂️) You are not responsible for how anyone feels as long as you aren’t hurting them. Being afraid to share your affection with girls you like that like you can feel like rejection to them. So, my 16 yr old self needed therapy, your 16 yr old self may not.
/r/seduction09/03/22 06:09 AM
4

Bring condoms.
/r/seduction08/03/22 12:03 PM
1

So, part of your problem is that you are taking on responsibilities for other people’s feelings about you. This is not your job. Your job is to try and meet your needs. Short of hurting other people on purpose or even by accident, you can’t really go wrong talking to people; saying something reasonable and kind and asking to get their contact info will hurt no one! If it makes them mad, its not your fault, they are just upset about something unrelated. If you go smack some chick on the ass and s…
/r/seduction08/03/22 03:36 AM
3

Probably buy stuff that makes you happy, there will be people that don’t like what you have now and people that won’t like what you buy. Buying stuff to impress others will only work on people that are impressed by “those” things.
/r/seduction05/03/22 10:38 PM
2

Hey, hope you are still here, see you are young and in the UK. Get some mental health help immediately, just call and tell them you are in a bad place and need emergency assistance. Don’t be ashamed of this! Also, since you are UK based and young, look into mountain biking or skating. There are cool people in these areas and great biking there. Believe it or not, a sport can push a lot of the negative thoughts away and bring huge endorphin rushes. Good luck man, save yourself by asking for help!
/r/seduction01/03/22 08:01 AM
4

And that made everyone have a better day. 😇
/r/seduction01/03/22 03:41 AM
2

Ya got yerself some serious one-itis there kiddo! The purpose of dating is to eliminate those that aren’t attracted to you. Congratulations! You have removed one more candidate. Your fantasy that she was super awesome turned out wrong and now you are fixated on that. But you don’t actually know her well enough to know how well you would get along. There are so, so many other girls out there, don’t fret! You’re gonna be fine!
/r/seduction28/02/22 03:23 AM
1

However you are asking what you did wrong and in reality, you were probably too stable for her to maintain an attachment to you. So, perhaps, you did nothing wrong, you just don't have compatible instabilities. You can't fix that or act some way that fixes this. When someone doesnt fit with you, let it go, there are more out there.
/r/seduction27/02/22 08:29 PM
2

No, I mean what about your history makes you attracted to someone that treats you like that. Pretty, and similar interests can come and go but when someone shows up and has a history of being attracted to toxic people, what is it about you that makes you think that is someone you should get involved with. Are you drawn to that unconsciously?
/r/seduction27/02/22 07:19 PM
1

Well, get to know them ‘with’ the vibe first! Some dudes can’t perform without really liking the woman they are with. Not saying that’s you but it can be part of ‘your’ dating and seduction process. Just make sure she knows you think about her that way, even if its not explicitly described.
/r/seduction27/02/22 06:00 PM
1

You must be giving women buddy vibes or she would never have felt like this was what you were after in the first place. Its ok to like a woman as a friend and have “randy” thoughts about her too, you just gotta make that obvious up front so she can move on if she doesn’t share this desired outcome.
/r/seduction27/02/22 05:56 PM
1

So, going forward, this is the question you need to ask yourself…why are you attracted to her?
/r/seduction27/02/22 05:24 PM
2

Her ex’s were attractive to her because they were abusing her. No doubt this reflects the family dynamic she grew up with. You can’t do anything about that and she wont get that “loving feeling” without that dynamic unless she changes her psychology through active therapeutic methods.
/r/seduction27/02/22 04:29 PM
1

Sounds like she enjoys attention.
/r/seduction26/02/22 07:50 PM
1

Is she matching your level of interest, bringing you gifts, etc?
/r/seduction26/02/22 07:09 PM
5

Ok. Please don’t advocate for sex trafficking. Pimping = prostitution.
/r/seduction26/02/22 04:57 PM
2

He could be married, gay, whatever. You could also try walking up and say “hi, what’s your phone number?”
/r/seduction26/02/22 05:53 AM
1

I bet there is, but you’d have to be that guy for as long as you want her to stay in love and learn to grow with her as she changes in life. 100% chance of failure holding onto a fake personality.
/r/seduction25/02/22 01:07 PM
3

i cant understand what this post is saying because there are no punctuation pauses in the sentences that make grammatical sense so maybe you could edit it it to make it more easy for us to understand and get some help with your topic but otherwise make sure you wear a condom. :-)
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:56 AM
5

No problem there. If I am just objectifying women, the gut has to be narrower than the butt. Anything else is pretty much variable for me to be visually interested.
/r/seduction25/02/22 07:50 AM
2

In case they get legal with you. She accuses you of of sending a message saying something inappropriate. Oh, you deleted your texts huh?
/r/seduction24/02/22 09:08 PM
2

My rule for work situations: The woman must make the big move! Flirt all you want as long as it is completely safe and not outright sexual. Think about how the British people insult one another; its always wholesome but the way you say it indicates the intent. When talking to coworker buddies: “She seems healthy” = She is not or she has a larger body type that makes me feel small and weak, maybe a bit scary. It could also mean she is fit and really hot! You can’t get in trouble for saying health…
/r/seduction24/02/22 09:06 PM
3

Stopped using shampoo and switched to conditioner only.
/r/seduction24/02/22 12:20 PM
9

Same thing happened with me sorta, it just took a few dates. If its fun, and you aren’t hung up on sex, keep going, maybe she will give you a 🤚
/r/seduction24/02/22 12:06 PM
0

He’s trolling you.
/r/seduction24/02/22 12:05 PM
1

Maybe she’s bribing you for sex?
/r/seduction24/02/22 11:58 AM
46

You don’t really need reddit seduction approval do you?
/r/seduction24/02/22 06:36 AM
1

Confidence.
/r/seduction24/02/22 02:26 AM
2

Fucking up his emotional responses. I knew some stoners at one point and they were kinda numb about everything.
/r/seduction20/02/22 01:11 PM
1

I think you brain is affected by all that weed your smokin.
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:23 AM
1

I would never put my hand on a woman’s leg without knowing that she wanted that. If she is doing that to you, she’s completely comfortable with you. Kiss her before she gives up on you and if she recoils, just hang back a bit till it seems obvious she actually does want you to kiss her.
/r/seduction16/02/22 11:16 PM
34

Some women are afraid of physical violence and will pretend to go along with whatever you say in person to avoid offending you.
/r/seduction16/02/22 04:03 AM
53

I think she was trying to shut you down in the most cruel way possible.
/r/seduction16/02/22 03:48 AM
5

Well, yeah….
/r/seduction13/02/22 06:59 PM
2

I dated a smoking hot woman… hold up lemme explain how hot…I showed dudes pictures and they literally just dropped their jaws, if she looked at you, you felt like she was fucking you, hot… She was like you in some ways. She was down on herself because her breasts were not as large as she wanted. She was smallish but they were stunningly firm and perky at 40. If she saw a chick with bigger boobs, she would point her out and say that I could have her if I wanted to because I am attractive… The wom…
/r/seduction13/02/22 05:43 PM
2

I don’t think that will help you.
/r/seduction13/02/22 01:23 PM
4

I agree with TidaLion. Finding people you match with in a mental way like that is rare. Them being available is not anywhere close to a guarantee and then they also need to be sexually attracted to you. That might require holding some things back to maintain some sexual tension. People like mystery, as well as comfort. Knowing how to keep them interested without pretending to be someone else can be tricky.
/r/seduction12/02/22 09:51 PM
1

Interesting but also kinda Peggy analytical.
/r/seduction12/02/22 02:10 PM
1

Maybe don’t spend so much energy in writing. Just be face to face when you communicate.
/r/seduction12/02/22 02:00 PM
2

This is weird to read, unless you are disfigured as in cleft pallet, I would think you could get past this. You may not be all that attractive but the #1 thing for women is confidence and you are excreting the lack of it. If I was your dad, I’d say no, and then you can earn enough money and develop your own self ti where if you still want it, its your life .
/r/seduction11/02/22 08:41 PM
2

One can be highly attracted to someone that has nothing in common with them and still want to have a physical connection. One can also become mentally connected to someone because they are on a similar emotional and intellectual wavelengths. This can be very stimulating in ways that make their appearance irrelevant. Perhaps a blind person experiences this more easily than sighted?
/r/seduction11/02/22 03:38 PM
11

No idea why the font is so big.
/r/seduction11/02/22 10:08 AM
10

1 if you are following her insta, stop. 2 Adopt the 0-1 scale. I got that from Mark Manson, btw. 0 = no, 1 = yes. 3 Make an effort to find someone that does this to you because of their personality, even if its just an experience.
/r/seduction11/02/22 10:07 AM
6

The heart wants what it wants. If you drop her, the whoring wont be anything but wondering why you left and feel even more hollow. Why are you arguing with yourself?
/r/seduction10/02/22 02:13 AM
2

Reading any self help book will give you tools and help you see yourself in a new way. It takes time to change how you react to situations in real life though because that has to come from within. So in this situation, after you’ve read it and how ever many other books, you’ll need some serious time to develop the ideas and modify your mind to adapt them. Whatever voice in your head that you have followed will still be there, messing with you until you drown it out with the person you want to be…
/r/seduction09/02/22 01:07 PM
5

Do whatever you need to do to improve your self esteem and confidence. Seduction requires this as a prerequisite. Do the therapy or literally whatever you think will help. You need to do this for yourself, for your life. Getting partners will feel exactly like you do now unless you do the work to heal or modify these issues and improve your mindset.
/r/seduction09/02/22 02:11 AM
1

Entertain yourself by watchJerry Seinfeld episodes where he introduces himself. Then realize relaxing about it will help.
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:40 AM
36

Two weeks is enough time to dump her now ex for you. You never know, just have fun!
/r/seduction07/02/22 12:15 AM
2

Wave?
/r/seduction06/02/22 05:33 PM
5

There is one comma and three periods in that whole thing.
/r/seduction06/02/22 02:23 AM
12

How many women actually tell you the truth about stuff like this? How many are lying to themselves about it? This question is as useful as the answers.
/r/seduction06/02/22 12:58 AM
2

Try meetup… take a class at a community college, go to a climbing gym, get a night job as a bar tender…
/r/seduction05/02/22 04:23 AM
1

There are ways to do this that are not cringy and gross. It requires being a very confident person that prefers being with someone that is very interested in them and happy to find out they aren’t. You can approach in a way that makes people feel good about themselves and enjoy the process of saying no because the interaction is fun. You can’t just decide to be like this if you have no self confidence or self esteem. It takes being in a strong place emotionally.
/r/seduction05/02/22 04:13 AM
1

You seem great, I’d like to meet up in person, when can you meet me in town?
/r/seduction04/02/22 10:03 PM
1

Hey, what’s your name? If she answers, “Mike” you messed up. Ok, no just ask her to go for a beer or something. If she interested it wont matter what you say.
/r/seduction04/02/22 05:35 AM
2

Godess? Your values are all messed up.
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:57 AM
1

Its not hard (yet)! Unzip his pants.
/r/seduction02/02/22 01:49 AM
2

Did you ask her out? Looking at stories is not getting closer to someone, messages online is fine for a buddy that you aren’t geographically close to but that’s about it.
/r/seduction01/02/22 05:41 AM
11

You are probably putting too much energy into your online profile interactions. Meet in person and build from there. Online chats have limited usefulness.
/r/seduction01/02/22 05:12 AM
40

Dudes in their 50s can do this, you’re still young! Live!!!! You have Reddit’s permission.
/r/seduction01/02/22 03:00 AM
7

You have friend that that wont let you date. You have a mistress that doesn’t care about you. Get some boundaries, find someone that fits within them.
/r/seduction01/02/22 02:52 AM
1

There is no reason not to get therapy. A good one can save you years of running around in circles trying to deal with whatever your problems are. By all means do some work in yourself but getting that stuff out in the open with another non judgmental person is very helpful.
/r/seduction31/01/22 02:36 PM
6

It sounds like you are not confident in who you are and maybe have some self esteem issues . You need to process the trauma from the bullying and therapy may be the answer.
/r/seduction31/01/22 12:13 PM
1

Cock blocked I guess, next! Move on man, if she contacts you again, go out alone with her.
/r/seduction31/01/22 12:26 AM
3

Start looking for her interest level. If she leans toward you touches you at all on purpose, or is staring at your lips, just lean in and kiss her. This is after she it is obvious she is into touching you. I met a woman and she started the date by wanting a hug; physical barrier broken immediately. This means kiss me as soon as you can in my book!
/r/seduction31/01/22 12:09 AM
12

Its not worth spending your energy trying to guess.
/r/seduction30/01/22 11:25 PM
2

Some of us are in our 50s. Stop making excuses and get some therapy so uou can build self esteem. Had my first kid at 41, didn’t meet my wife till my 30s. You have time to get married multiple times and have kids with several women, 27 is a perfect time to get started on figuring yhis shit out.!!! You have time! Enjoy it!
/r/seduction30/01/22 02:12 PM
5

This has Seinfeld episode written all over it. If she’d given you a phone number or something, yeah, otherwise she wants a repeat customer.
/r/seduction30/01/22 12:44 AM
5

You need to read “no more mr nice guy”. “They only want her for her body” You don’t say she’s hot, but you don’t know her at all and say she is smart, kind, whatever. You’re not going to win her over by being the nice guy that’s different. You need to be be straight up with yourself before any attractive woman will go for you. They can see your bs from 100yards away and can see that you aren’t to be trusted. You sure as hell don’t need to practice this nice guy crap on us. Use the opportunity to…
/r/seduction30/01/22 12:36 AM
1

Ew. I’d research the place and make sure its not some messed up place that judges people for being themselves and all that unpleasant behavior. There are church places that aren’t horrible but there are some awful, creepy, MLM cults out there doing horrible things to people to justify their own hatred. I hear women go to these places so yeah, you’ll prolly meet some! Maybe try a local college class in something you are interested in, lots of women go to school! You might get something valuable o…
/r/seduction27/01/22 07:00 AM
4

If there is any correlation to attractiveness and behavioral psychology its because people like that can be put on pedestals starting at age 12. Women or men (mostly men) who act like Bill and Ted..”We’re not worthy” and guys that are too afraid to be honest with themselves create fearful behavior responses. Or for many women, they were assaulted or raped by men that believe they are owed something for whatever reason. Anyone with this as their environment in adolescence would be negatively affe…
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:51 AM
1

She may have a tendency to keep men circling around her even when she is in a relationship. The validation is pleasant to anyone that can maintain a bunch of groupies. That’s why so many people want insta followers or whatever. Could be you were just one of her validation team and you caught feelings.
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:44 PM
5

Stop trying to label yourself as a beta or high value man and then applying that label on yourself for others. Just knock that crap off. Your a human being, not a character in some distopaDisney world of made up dating terms. You liked someone, took that risk and got hurt. Its embarrassing. That's fine. Get yourself through your grief and laugh at yourself and just smile when you see her and be professional.
/r/seduction26/01/22 04:43 AM
1

I would change the subject unless you wanna play therapist. If she wants to talk, maybe suggest that once she is broken up with that guy, you are available to hang. Otherwise you are a validation token giving her strength to get what she wants from him.
/r/seduction26/01/22 01:54 AM
3

If you had a good time, that is your answer. Maybe your friend that was being mean wants in your pants. The reality is, try and let your (not hers or ours ) feelings guide you. Screwing random people may be something that makes half the people on this sub reddit feel good but you get to be in charge of what you do.
/r/seduction25/01/22 01:55 PM
2

Be prepared with a place to go at that moment and for a later time when you are both free. Don’t leave that up to chance and asking to hang out in a car is pretty cringy unless she is sticking her hands in your pants when you are walking somewhere. Seriously, make a little effort to be prepared to go to a bar or cafe or something.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:24 AM
1

You have to look at your life right now as rejection. You are miserable, you can alter that. Your brain thinks its going to die when you feel rejected. This is normal for babies, because if they aren’t fed or held, they literally die. Your mind has associated the fear chemical reaction to fear of death as a baby and you need to retrain it. It doesn’t know you have grown up and can take care of yourself. You may need to prove this to yourself. There is only one way to retrain your brain… give it …
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:15 AM
2

You need a reset! Get a personal coach or a therapist. Your attitude from your other responses needs work. You have to decide to do the work. Your life is not going to change because times passes. You have grown used to this, your brain is comfortable in its misery. You will not enjoy changing yourself until you see results. You’re one of these dudes that has no bottom to hit and realize you have to work your way out of it. If you want better, make it better, otherwise admit that you like living…
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:04 AM
2

Are you out of shape? That is worth doing for your health. Start there.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:24 AM
1

Learn to recognize the clues a woman gives if she is interested and capitalize on those situations unless you are into a pure numbers game cold approach thing.
/r/seduction25/01/22 01:32 AM
1

Try and make yourself happy for you, that confidence will drive the ladies wild! 👰🏽‍♀️ 👍🏻😀
/r/seduction25/01/22 01:19 AM
1

It could be that she has been hurt by someone or several that have left her and she wants to see how much you will put up with. It could be an attachment style response as well.
/r/seduction24/01/22 05:12 PM
-1

It seems fine except that you put a label on things on your first date/kiss. That can look like trying to lock her down or being controlling or insecurity which is unattractive. If you are 15 to 17 yrs old, it makes more sense.
/r/seduction22/01/22 06:24 PM
1

Just ask the girl out!
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:56 AM
8

Really? Dude, just be your own man and do your own thing. If you flip these switches and think it will be your ticket to seduce the ladies, its just gonna be painful.
/r/seduction22/01/22 04:46 AM
1

It may help to know that they are trying just as hard to understand why they do this themselves. If you think about how our brains learned to generate the chemical cocktails that are produced when we feel safety, love and affection as infants and young children and we are trying to get our heads to keep making that cocktail, you can get a glimpse into why we do what we do. Everyone was programmed by these experiences and constantly adding more data to try and decode the tricks to feel good. The …
/r/seduction21/01/22 05:06 AM
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Do you feel better after posting this? It looks like your ego is challenging your self esteem to a fight in your head or something. I know, I will be called names (simp, beta, bi7ch, etc.) for posting a reply, which is fine, have at it. It seems someone comes here and posts what reads like self bullying as attempt to sound coach like. Maybe its a misguided attempt at self affirmations or something, or maybe a test bed to see if they have caught the wave and are surfing the alpha wave and ready t…
/r/seduction21/01/22 04:47 AM
1

I think its a read the room situation then and its going to depend on the girl and how she feels that day. Also, if she is really into you or if she is afraid and doesn’t want to embarrass you can come into play.
/r/seduction19/01/22 12:04 PM
1

How many times do ywant to say to her through your action, “I just want to be friends.”
/r/seduction19/01/22 05:03 AM
3

People in general appreciate confidence and honesty. If you don’t mind if she says, “No, F off!” and laughs at you, then you wont mind if she doesn’t mind and she won’t care if you don’t. Just enjoy the reaction, whatever it is, and be kind and move forward. Make a big deal out of it and now its a problem.
/r/seduction19/01/22 04:37 AM
2

Women can read your emotional state at a distance. The pretty ones are more skilled than any of them. They have been developing this skill since they turned 12 or whenever they started growing breasts. They have to, because they need to be able to judge men’s intentions for their own safety. When guys are into them and hide it, that makes women totally uncomfortable and actually afraid. That is why being direct and confident works better, they feel your honesty. I’m a dude and I could read you p…
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:47 PM
1

He is asking how to do this exact thing though. Waiting to be approached isn't exactly “game” is it?
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:38 PM
0

I don’t know, that sounds wishy washy. Its still fear of rejection or something like it, you are jist hiding from it. Focussing on the gym and then talking about yourself physically sounds kinda cringe. Overall you sound a bit desperate and needy which will be unattractive and can be detected by women from 100 yards. I don’t mean thi to be insulting, but you don’t sound like you are being genuine in who you are, like you are putting on a mask. You may just need to read some books or join a men’s…
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:29 PM
1

There are several approaches. Some guys practice pickup skills, some practice being so awesome women come to them because they can’t figure out why the guy isn’t approaching them. The other the straight confidence approach: “Hey, your awesome, what’s your name, can I get your number?” Whatever approach you take, you have to let go of fear of rejection.
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:01 PM
4

You need to pay someone to watch you and give you objective feedback. Find a matchmaker, or a coach or something that makes you commit to this. You haven’t done it on your own in 13 years as an adult so anti up and make a commitment. Otherwise go full tilt George Costanza and do everything differently. Season 5 Episode 22 of Seinfeld. A buddy of mine signed up for everything he could find that he had never done for 4 months. He met a lot of new people and had a blast. Not sure if that would work…
/r/seduction18/01/22 04:53 AM
9

Have you kissed this woman?
/r/seduction18/01/22 04:35 AM
1

This one maybe not, but get in the habit of talking to all women the same way. Once that’s just how you are, you will have better luck with the ones on pedestals. Its also fine to just be uncomfortable and mess it up. Be ok with knowing it might not go great, she might have a crush on you but is engaged or something.. No answer from her is wrong and there are billions of other women.
/r/seduction18/01/22 04:18 AM
4

Relax, some women your age have not spent much time down there either. Maybe less common now with the whole internet porn thing, but when I was your age....(eyeroll at myself for saying that) I had more of an idea what was down there than some of the women I dated. The is a book, She Comes First by Ian Kerner that will give you some info. Its available through Hoopla from my library so you dont even have to buy it,
/r/seduction17/01/22 02:58 AM
3

yeah... I thought this girl that walked out of my kids school was a teacher, she did not look 12. I didn't talk to her or anything, I don't do that around my kids, but I found out she was a bit...young.
/r/seduction15/01/22 11:59 AM
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Nah, go back and smile.. It'll be fine. She was flattered and your return will be funny! ​ Just think of it like Seinfeld episode.
/r/seduction15/01/22 11:56 AM
3

When he said 10/10m and plastic surgery, I thought, "We have a different idea of a 10/10" Nobody is perfect but she sounds overdone.
/r/seduction15/01/22 11:30 AM
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I wouldn't have bothered with the final call to defend yourself, but the story is interesting.
/r/seduction15/01/22 11:26 AM
2

You never have to do it again. Time to leave her alone, laugh at yourself and know that we have all done this.
/r/seduction14/01/22 12:46 PM
8

Telling a woman your feelings is going to make them run away! How would you feel if a woman you barely knew started explaining what she liked about you and why and that she can’t stop thinking about you and your really cute… If you weren’t expecting it, it’d probably freak you out. Its hard to learn this but don’t put them on pedestals or fantasize about women. Find out if they are into you and then decide if you are into them.
/r/seduction14/01/22 12:12 PM
3

Yeah, you aren’t going to get to know her texting.
/r/seduction12/01/22 10:07 PM
5

Ease up on the texting. Be patient and let anticipation build.
/r/seduction12/01/22 09:45 PM
2

Sure but being super thirsty is not a great way to succeed. Being 100% focussed on pulling and screwing makes you look needy and unattractive. Faking attractive behavior only works for a while but will leave you feeling shallow and eventually kill your self worth leading to no sex.
/r/seduction11/01/22 10:00 PM
1

The situation is vague, at best you’ll get vague answers. Ask her out, get her number or just move on. She decided 4 seconds into seeing you if she wants to go out with you.
/r/seduction11/01/22 09:08 PM
3

Is this a contest? I makes it seem that getting laid is your primary interest in life. That may be affecting your self image and creating the anxiety. Maybe pull back a bit and get a real grip on who you when you are alone for a bit? You may even get to a point when girls leave the group they are in to find you.
/r/seduction11/01/22 08:01 PM
1

At the end of transaction : “Can I get your number?” Your phone is already open and on new contact. You hold it out for them. You have a big smile, visible in your eyes through your mask. If she says no, or whatever, just say, “Have a great day!” And leave.
/r/seduction11/01/22 03:36 PM
5

Seems good to me as long as you are doing stuff you actually like and not pretending so you can be available for the ladies.
/r/seduction10/01/22 04:14 AM
4

I wouldn’t try manipulating someone like this, I wouldn’t be able to keep it up long. I’d rather be with someone who likes me for who I am.
/r/seduction08/01/22 01:15 PM
2

It doesn’t really matter why, if she’s keen, you could say, “Wanna go see my lug wrench collection?” With a big stupid smile on your face and she’ll go. If she’s handsy or telling you she like’s what you’re doing with yours, she might be ready. If she isn’t just back off for a few minutes and slowly get her excited…just control your eagerness and keep your attention (quietly) on her receptivness.
/r/seduction07/01/22 07:30 PM
1

But you hate it… Who cares if there are girls there, they don’t want to leave with dudes, they want validation that they are hot. Its like instagram of real life. You can’t even fucking talk! You might as well put a glow in the dark sticker on your head that says “Desperate” Yes some people succeed at both clubbing and instagram, but you …hate being there… There are meetup groups for singles, in the day time where women go to meet men! There are gyms, art classes, martial arts, libraries, coffee…
/r/seduction05/01/22 03:25 AM
9

Focus on the neck, lots of kissing and touching there. You can always ask what she likes…
/r/seduction05/01/22 03:13 AM
5

Why the hell are you going to places that you don’t want to in order to pull a woman away from her friends? There is no way this is going to work. Your presence will read exactly the way you presented it… Cringy as hell. Be somewhere you enjoy, meet people like you.
/r/seduction05/01/22 03:10 AM
4

You don’t express this explicitly, you operate as an autonomous man that attracts everyone and you let the ones you want in. I don’t know exactly what you are saying about express your desire but if you are forcing something using words to try to communicate it you haven’t done the other part first which is to make them just want to be with you. Its not the same as cold approaches, thats just, “Hi, what’s your name and phone number.” Getting to this point requires not giving a crap about outcome…
/r/seduction05/01/22 02:51 AM
1

Find confidence such that you don’t care, at all, that you are with an woman or women. Be completely content doing what you want and find a genuine take it or leave it attitude. At the same time treat everyone in a way that makes them want to spend time with you…as in Dale Carnegie. Women will find you, you just let the ones you want in.
/r/seduction04/01/22 07:05 PM
2

How you come across reflects how you feel inside. Anxiety can’t be hidden. If a woman can see or hear you, she will know instantly. Its not a game, you have to work on making yourself content and if you aren’t sure about how you feel, it will show…If you are psyching yourself up, it will show… You have to be that guy to exude that kind of confidence.
/r/seduction04/01/22 05:55 PM
3

Nope, that’s manipulative and fearful. Just be confident and smile. If you feel any fear of the outcome, good or bad, she will sense it. Especially beautiful women that have been treated like this since they were 12. Women develop physically around 12 and deal with this every day from then on… They can smell fear before they can see it, they can tell you what your thoughts are before you say anything because have had to.
/r/seduction04/01/22 12:41 PM
5

Or just smile. Also don’t scare her!
/r/seduction04/01/22 12:17 PM
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Dude, try it! Just say, “Hi, I gotta go but don’t want to miss this chance, whats your name and number?” Report back!
/r/seduction04/01/22 05:54 AM
6

Focus on self, smile and say hello to everyone, build report with everyone and treat them all alike. Work on techniques that are “Win friends and Influence people” -like. That way, you are practicing communication in a way that keeps everyone wanting more of your time and you aren’t only going into try hard mode with hot women you’ve pedastalized. When a woman that you are interested in is there, just do the same, she will make it clear that she wants more time and you didnt seem distant and dis…
/r/seduction04/01/22 05:48 AM
1

Yes! I once walked up to a clutsy ass beautiful woman in a bar. I said, “ Hi, what’s your name? I like how klutzy you are, its really sexy, can I get your number?” We went out, went to her place and got busy! It was really fun! Don’t over think it! If you say something funny like that, they can laugh, you can laugh, smile and walk away and nobody feels bad about it.
/r/seduction04/01/22 05:42 AM
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Your attitude about your life being ruined is your problem. You are letting mistakes bother you and that shows your neediness and fear which is why she will run like hell. If you were confident and sure of yourself, expecting mistakes and random shit to happen to you in life, you’d be smooth and laugh it off every time. She was watching you squirm, you just couldn’t see it. Build yourself up, your life is gonna be great! Learn from your mistakes, they are more valuable than your successes becaus…
/r/seduction04/01/22 05:34 AM
1

Just don’t gush or barf your feelings about her. (Smile!) “Hey, good to see you again, lets get together. What is your schedule?” Then just listen and watch her behavior. If she stammers out with bs excuse, just say something like “you know where to find me, with smile, have somewhere to go and walk away. If she says yeah, just tell her when and where to meet you (have this in your head already) or get her phone number if that doesn’t work. Have somewhere to go unless she wants to hang out right…
/r/seduction02/01/22 03:15 PM
5

Going for what you want displays confidence. Taking a long time shows fear or perceived as indecision. She sees is as insecurity or disinterest. Neither are attractive and she can’t trust you if you are afraid or she doesn’t want to go out with someone that isn’t crazy about her.
/r/seduction01/01/22 11:45 PM
2

Its so hard to do this but take her down off the pedestal you’ve built. She’s just another person and you already have over invested in your thoughts about her. You flirt by smiling when you talk to her and you don’t break eye contact. The giving gifts thing is you looking for her approval. Don’t try to gain her approval, that is creepy and weird. The more you concentrate on trying to attract her the more she will see the behavior as inauthentic. Just enjoy the butterflies in your stomach and th…
/r/seduction30/12/21 08:10 PM
1

It became invalid because we were moving out, both packing our moving trucks, never to see each other again…
/r/seduction30/12/21 08:16 AM
2

Perfect: Flatmate that you can practice banter with! Since you see her as off limits (Yes, she is off limits: The Flatmate Rule) you can teach yourself how to treat women you like (this should be the same as those you don't want otherwise you are putting them on a pedestal) and be so charming and funny that she thinks about breaking The Flatmate Rule because she is attracted to you! I did this accidentally once. I had a couple of very hot flatmates and I kept my distance but gave them so much sh…
/r/seduction30/12/21 06:31 AM
1

No Gifts. Practice your banter with her, I just read you are 16. Your best strategy is to get her more and more crazy about you so that she starts pursuing you in the most obvious ways. It will get silly because you are both so young but if you can train yourself to keep calm about this it will help you in future dating. Just be kind and smile while you are doing the occasional teasing.
/r/seduction30/12/21 06:21 AM
1

Well don’t walk to her, wait till she finds herself in your near orbit. If she keeps her distance, she did her job. If she wanders into your space, then smile and say “Hi” without staring at her like you need something back. If in doubt, just leave her alone.
/r/seduction30/12/21 02:19 AM
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Or just say “Hi” till its boring…Then graduation to “How are you?” Then make up something else… Pissing your pants as a carrot and stick routine is pretty weird.
/r/seduction30/12/21 02:02 AM
1

“How are you?” Then just watch her behavior… that’s as harmless as you can get and if she seems attentive at all, ask her name… if she keeps engaging ask for her phone number… if she keeps talking just ser up a date.
/r/seduction30/12/21 02:00 AM
1

Do what you think looks right, everyone likes different things. Some chicks want hair, some don’t.
/r/seduction30/12/21 12:04 AM
1

The only one I met was 10-20% better looking.
/r/seduction29/12/21 05:36 AM
1

You just tell her you need to break up with her. If she asks, tell her you don’t want to be in a relationship with her. There are things that don’t work for you and you want to move on and you are done. She isnt going to like it, there is no way around it but if you don’t , you’ll end up with kids and make the it astronomically worse.
/r/seduction29/12/21 01:47 AM
2

Can you just not follow her on insta?
/r/seduction26/12/21 05:27 PM
3

Same
/r/seduction25/12/21 01:20 PM
3

The whole post is about lining up a series of events instead of developing a self respect and confidence that says, "I can handle anything that comes my way". Instead, we have a narrative based on the other persons reaction going certain way. Trying to predetermine your actions and predict the responses comes from a place of neediness and lack of self confidence. Anytime you worry about the future, you are in a state of fear, however mild. ​ Be your self, love who you are and that will seduce mo…
/r/seduction23/12/21 08:22 PM
4

Far too much cringy, fear based thinking in this.
/r/seduction23/12/21 01:57 AM
2

You want to go out, not find a pen pal...If she wants a pen pal, move on.
/r/seduction23/12/21 01:52 AM
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Next time you are together, kiss her no matter what. She wants you to, trust me, she wouldn't initiate seeing you otherwise. Make a date plan where you can be in contact. No woods or movies or super loud venues. Invite her and if she says yes, you know she wants you to kiss her.
/r/seduction23/12/21 01:15 AM
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You are outcome focused, and reading stuff that satisfies a belief that you can't be yourself and meet someone that you are compatible with. ​ You need confidence in yourself. You can't seduce (be attractive ) to anyone (mate, boss, client, friends) if you are suffering from low self esteem or any kind of self loathing. Look for seduction advice that isn't self destructive, disrespectful or dishonorable. You can absolutely be weird AF and find someone that you are into that really digs you. Bein…
/r/seduction23/12/21 01:09 AM
1

Then don’t. Why do you let thirsty guys on the internet try to influence you away from being true to yourself. How often do you read, “Be true to yourself?”
/r/seduction14/12/21 12:35 PM
1

The only thing you can do is embrace the feelings and accept that you are having them. They will fade if you look at them and just feel them. Your mind was excited and judgment impaired by your intoxicated attraction. I am not joking, your brain makes chemicals that affect your behavior when you are dating someone you like!
/r/seduction05/03/21 12:56 PM
0

Hi, how are you? What’s your name? (Guy reads response) and says, “have a good day” or “can I get your number?” based on her reaction and leaves scene. That is pickup simplified. What you experienced were sociopaths.
/r/seduction04/03/21 10:56 PM
1

Match and mirror the physical stuff and bust her balls, playfully. She can escalate with you and you can go a little further and back off a little more than her but never go into try hard mode.
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:03 PM
3

If you do, say “So far!” Or “F yes, lets get a _____ Saturday!” or “I don’t you very well, let’s find out, how about we get a drink later tonight.”
/r/seduction04/03/21 07:11 AM
6

Should have asked for her number, and her mom’s!
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:45 AM
1

Don’t go in with shame of your past or fear of your future, accept you failures as they come and back off when you lose form.
/r/seduction03/03/21 09:28 PM
1

It takes practice, theory and actions are very different things, especially if it’s deeply ingrained.
/r/seduction03/03/21 09:23 PM
10

Do you ask them for a phone number, or just ask them to meet you for a drink next Friday? How about, “lets get out of here and go for a (walk, shag, drink, smoke, or whatever) Don’t be too nice, just direct, functionally separate them from the group, move somewhere they can start touching you, then tell them to kiss you once they are getting slightly physical. There is more nuance to this but essentially these steps. Edit: the shag part is to be funny, not serious, but if your actually a funny p…
/r/seduction03/03/21 06:54 AM
2

Just ask her out, she can’t like you through text any more than you can know what she thinks. So, ask her on a date, if she does go out with you, learn about her so you can find out if YoU LiKe HeR.
/r/seduction27/02/21 01:35 PM
2

I think its not worth scrutinizing. She got tired of talking to someone that didn’t excite her more than something else did.
/r/seduction26/02/21 04:17 AM
1

You could try saying, “I don’t understand, tell me more about it,” or “how did that feel” or “has that happened to you before?”
/r/seduction24/02/21 11:11 AM
1

“...say “I understand “... “...you may not fully understand...” “...but you need to also understand congruency...” 😐
/r/seduction24/02/21 10:59 AM
3

Til she says, “what do you understand” or “how could you possibly understand?” This will happen!
/r/seduction24/02/21 02:47 AM
5

You gotta be patient. Remember women have 10x the matches and if you look desperate or needy, your an easy ghost.
/r/seduction23/02/21 04:52 AM
3

So...catfished or maybe you came off as needy? Why does anyone think that getting nudes sent is a good sign?
/r/seduction23/02/21 04:31 AM
1

This is the nature of emotion, she isnt a program in a game, she will do what feels good to her. You have no control, let her be, enjoy the unknown, it will always be like this.
/r/seduction22/02/21 04:47 AM
4

I can’t make any sense of this. Ask her out and stop monkeying around with guessing what she thinks about you.
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:59 AM
2

Seduction is direct for one exchange that requires inner game and outward action. After that its a cluster of inner/outer subtlety.
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:56 AM
2

Not sure about solving her problems, maybe if she asks but its a good way to get turned into a beta provider, or just piss her off.
/r/seduction19/02/21 05:07 PM
3

She wants someone that believes in himself, not someone that she has to build up, that was your mom’s job. If you think she’s out of your league all you will do is prove it to her. Don’t worry though, 99% of us learn through failure! The point is...growth! Your not gonna marry this girl! Relax about it.
/r/seduction16/02/21 03:39 AM
2

I would think so, women are not direct so if she was kind it doesn’t mean she was interested. I would just hold off, let her contact you. If she does, go s-l-o-w. Slower than you want. Give her time to come to you if she does at all. If she doesn’t, don’t chase her, it will only push her away.
/r/seduction15/02/21 01:08 AM
3

She’s not your girlfriend if you haven’t seen her for a year. What do you mean, “hit it off” and at the same time sound like you aren’t sure her preciousness has time for you? I can tell you must be very young but you appear to have this woman on a high pedestal.
/r/seduction15/02/21 12:49 AM
2

I am just saying don’t pout and act overly destroyed by it. Not some nutjob cheshire cat thing, the guy might want to go back to that cafe and if he’s not overly reactive they can still have a pleasant interaction as customer/retailer acquaintances.
/r/seduction14/02/21 04:56 PM
4

Does she hold your gaze when you look into her eyes? Have you said anything to her? Did she laugh at a really stupid joke? Has she asked you anything about you? I’m just suggesting you look for a decent set of signals, but either way just make it part of you order, I’l have that donut and your phone number. Or can I get an extra napkin with your phone number on it? Smile!!! If she says no, keep smiling, maintain eye contact and then walk away, like you know she’ll be fine and you will too.
/r/seduction14/02/21 03:33 AM
2

Wear whatever you want, if they say something about it that’s not fun, they might turn out to be high maintenance. Your question sounds a little insecure but hopefully its not really bothering you.
/r/seduction13/02/21 01:22 PM
1

A woman that was really interested in me did this trying to be overly casual in front of people. I could tell she really liked me but wasn’t so interested due to her age, less than half of mine. If you are interested, just go make an effort to ask her on a date.
/r/seduction13/02/21 01:10 AM
7

Well, your trying at least! Good luck man.
/r/seduction13/02/21 12:51 AM
2

I mean that she would go from being sweat and lightly touching my arm a little to grabbing me and talking about wanting to have sex, or going from sitting nearby to jumping in my lap and grinding on me while kissing me. This would happen just from sharing something emotional but not from a needy whining perspective. I am definitely off the market right now.
/r/seduction08/02/21 11:02 PM
2

You’re right and a lot of the other posters or responders have been right about needing to be vulnerable, not overly insecure or weak.
/r/seduction08/02/21 01:59 PM
3

Several over the last 2 years.
/r/seduction08/02/21 01:54 PM
2

Op here, thanks. I have been working on myself non stop for two years. Thanks for pointing out that I have had some success here. Posting my comment here has given me some great insight to work with.
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:34 PM
2

Op here, thanks for making this point, its true. She got visibly turned on with that approach in the beginning. Its when I was whining that she ran backwards.
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:30 PM
3

Op again, some of the emotional sharing resulted in her attacking in a good way, but reading some responses I realize just the insecurities and sympathy seeking type vulnerability was the issue.
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:19 PM
1

OP here, thanks for the clarity!
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:16 PM
1

Op here, its hard to tell, some emotional shit I shared made her physically aggressive in a good way, some immediately turned her off. There was definitely some lack of my emotional regulation at fault here.
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:15 PM
1

OP here, your right about this, the distinction is difficult to see. Emotional regulation is difficult for me, always has been. There were some sensitive thjngs I would say and she would jump up a level or two of attraction. This woman was an immediate litmus test in seduction and attraction.
/r/seduction08/02/21 12:11 PM
2

He just asked “Why not be myself?” I think most of us are here for improvement so we can get laid. If we were all kings of seduction we wouldn’t be here.
/r/seduction08/02/21 05:03 AM
9

Because myself was always needy, insecure and thinking women were my therapist. I don’t want to be alone the rest of my life or be anyone’s project. If your not here to learn game, why be in R seduction?
/r/seduction08/02/21 04:49 AM
1

Just say, “I’ve never really done this” and smile, “but I am really excited about it!” If the guy is a good guy he will love this and enjoy not feeling insecure himself!
/r/seduction05/02/21 12:27 PM
2

Accept that women will not solve this problem. If you were dating and said this to one, her sexual interest would dry up instantly. Your self esteem sounds like it is caught up in women’s approval of you. This is exactly the way to make them run! Women will give ugly dudes a chance now and then, but if they are unattractive in their minds, its over instantly. A super stud hot dude can meet women but the moment they say anything weak about their self worth, bang! Friends at best.
/r/seduction03/02/21 05:16 AM
1

He may be trying to keep your sexual interest in him. A lot of us were not raised to believe in our own sexual value. Many raised to think sex was just a bad thing and that women don’t want it. We have suppressed our ability to show it and because we are taught to be afraid of being sexual we have no F’ing clue what we are doing. We have to find guides because all of out male role models have no clue either. Women are similarly shamed about sexual desire so we have to learn how to break through …
/r/seduction31/01/21 10:51 PM
1

Just say “Hey, your (beautiful, gorgeous, hot, whatever) what’s you name?” Smile, don’t say anything, just wait for her response. Then you have a conversation and she knows what you’re up to. If she blows you off, move on!
/r/seduction31/01/21 09:52 PM
3

Confidence is what you need to develop. Your self talk here is not a reflection on confident self value. You need to learn to accept and stop feeling shame for your past. Especially, EsPECiALlY the part that wasnt your fault. You also need to learns to stop fearing your future. Learn to love what you are, see it as good in the moment and confidence will come.
/r/seduction30/01/21 02:16 AM
8

You could try just being honest, you never know. It sounds like you still have her on a pedestal and it will probably not go as you plan or are fantasizing it could.
/r/seduction23/01/21 11:16 PM
6

That’s just not helpful, this happens to straight men a lot. My exwife use to say shit like that to me in her abusive rants and it just made me so much more anxious.
/r/seduction11/01/21 10:43 PM
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Dude!!! I am just getting of a 15+ yr marriage and this exact thing just started happening to me. I’m attractive, tall and all there down under but the first chick I pull is so amazing to me and I can’t get things working without a lot of work on both our parts. She’s a fucking nympho and sent me on my way till I get myself sorted out. So, I am freaking out too, making it worse. Relaxing and not giving a shit is our path, but getting there may take a sex therapist. Thinking about sex as somethin…
/r/seduction11/01/21 10:37 PM
1

That is something you really need to do something about. Just throwing yourself at anything that sticks will probably result in a miserable situation. I’m nearly 50 and trying to get my head on straight, so take some time in your youth to become emotionally independent and stronger. Its Sssooooo much harder as you get older because the baggage you collect along the way gets so much heavier.
/r/seduction11/01/21 05:43 PM
1

How old are you? Also, not a seduction question, probably should be in R / relationships
/r/seduction11/01/21 04:21 AM
1

Nah, they get a shitload of attention, which makes them weary of needy and insecure people. They can spot them a mile away.
/r/seduction04/01/21 03:39 AM
1

Step by step instructions wont be the ticket here, you need to develop your skills through practice and learning to read women, fave to face. Its good to have your confidence and the background info but your not going to get there in a few weeks of memorizing instructions. How long did it take to get good at sales?
/r/seduction03/01/21 07:16 PM
1

Beano before you eat and gas-x after.
/r/seduction19/12/20 08:36 PM
0

Look at him with the moat exaggerated, flamboyant, queen look you can, say to your girl. “Oh look sis, our plaything for the night!” There is a small risk he is into incest threesomes, but it should be good for a laugh.
/r/seduction19/12/20 11:34 AM
5

Exactly! No worries just next time a woman compliments you, that’s an invitation! If she blows you off, no biggie!
/r/seduction18/12/20 03:12 AM
2

That was your opportunity to banter back and get her number. Did you take it?
/r/seduction18/12/20 02:32 AM
2

Hi, here’s my phone number, call me!
/r/seduction18/12/20 01:05 AM
6

Ask them for their number.
/r/seduction17/12/20 12:09 PM
6

Or just show up, if you call and confirm its like you expect people to flake on you, shows you don’t trust her and are anxious. Think about how the coolest personalities would act, James Bond, is often used for this concept...Does James Bond call his date a couple days before and say, “Hi, are you still going to go out with mee?” No, he’s not, if your date flakes, enjoy your evening without her and drop her from your life, you don’t have time for flakes!
/r/seduction17/12/20 12:06 PM
8

Well, basically, meet Saturday. If she flakes. Just move on.
/r/seduction17/12/20 05:31 AM
1

Nah! School is fine, as long as you are kind
/r/seduction16/12/20 08:47 PM
1

Well no, but when I was 38, I looked 26 easy, so it wouldn’t have been an issue. I can’t imagine why the men would want to though, the emotional places kids under 20 are is just bonkers due to the hormones and immaturity.
/r/seduction16/12/20 01:55 PM
1

I’m a dude, I have no idea on percentages.
/r/seduction16/12/20 01:50 PM
1

“You ShOuLd go out with whomever you like, whenever you like, I’ll be here when your done with them.”
/r/seduction16/12/20 12:59 PM
1

Perhaps your question should be: What percentage of boomer aged men are attractive to 18-20 year old women.
/r/seduction16/12/20 12:57 PM
1

Are you basing your happiness on what someone else gives you? If your life is good and a woman adds something for a few weeks, how does one not enjoy that moment for what it is?
/r/seduction15/12/20 11:56 AM
1

I’m an open minded older cis dude, your question sounds a little like you are hoping that I would rather be with a young trans woman with male genitalia than an old woman. For me, I would not. I would much rather remain alone than be with any woman I am not attracted to. I would never consider dating a trans person regardless of their genitalia because I am not attracted to that. I am not disgusted nor in anyway disturbed by it as an adult but I’m just not interested.
/r/seduction15/12/20 11:34 AM
1

She probably got hurt and doesnt trust you. You have to pull back slightly and see if she moves towards you. Repeat a while later if she moves forwards a bit. Keep doing that till she is back where you were. ​ If she doesn't try to catch up, just leave her alone.
/r/seduction13/12/20 09:47 PM
1

Just keep working on yourself for you, and never stop doing that, tall handsome guys get lazy, then get dumped.
/r/seduction13/12/20 07:42 PM
5

She has a boyfriend. Unless you just like punishing yourself enjoy your crush (laugh at yourself a little, make that wheeew! Sound to yourself when you leave and enjoy her feminine qualities for what they are!) for what it is and find an available partner.
/r/seduction13/12/20 07:00 PM
2

Nsfw label... geez
/r/seduction11/12/20 11:46 PM
1

Help yourself, do the work, its out there!
/r/seduction11/12/20 04:17 PM
1

Someone will probably delete your post because this is basic research.
/r/seduction11/12/20 04:13 PM
1

Do not text her. Make the date and just show up. If she flakes, delete her from your contacts. Focus on your work and career goals! She may be an F-ing weirdo so invest nothing emotionally until you’ve met a few times!
/r/seduction10/12/20 05:53 PM
5

You should be focusing on your purpose in life, school, job, hobby, whatever. This is one of thousands of women you could meet, stop worrying. Stop texting all week, set up a time to see her and tell her you’ll be excited to see her then. Keep busy, ignore her online life, you’re stalking a fantasy.
/r/seduction09/12/20 12:36 AM
1

I am two years deep, added Glover’s Nice Guy, Dieda’s Superior Man, also Craig Kenneth on youtube for psychological issues. AMS on youtube for the entertainment but some useful info, and Manson’s Subtle Art. I am not going full seduction route, just trying not to be a total idiot with women. I had a divorce kick me in the ass. Safe journeys.
/r/seduction08/12/20 12:06 PM
2

His work and several others have really helped me. I don’t like everything but my understanding of this stuff better for sure. 10 to 15 reads...it really does help.
/r/seduction08/12/20 07:04 AM
2

The hug was fine! I am talking about her legs and arms, that to me is too much. If she contacts you, make a date! But you don’t need to call her or push her. Read the book again!
/r/seduction08/12/20 06:59 AM
2

Let her touch you first, if she does, a few times do it once or twice, then back off. Let her touch you more, wait a while and reciprocate and back off. She will let you know when its ok. Once she starts grabbing your arm or whatever, then you can touch her arm more freely. Don’t contact her, she may come back but you have to let her wonder why you’re leaving her alone, if she liked the attention, she will contact you. If she didn’t, move on.
/r/seduction08/12/20 06:56 AM
1

I don’t think anybody has success unless the other person is into you. Convincing someone through tricky manipulation might work for women with very low self esteem but it’s certainly not a great strategy. Maybe I don’t understand exactly.
/r/seduction08/12/20 01:24 AM
1

If a woman touches you, she feels at least safe with you and if you stay centered and reciprocate slowly watch for her to escalate a bit. It will become very clear, if she backs away, keep calm and let her come back, once she does slowly reciprocate. Keep doing that and you’ll know!
/r/seduction07/12/20 02:28 PM
1

Study hard. It is all direct once you decode it, just like traffic signals.
/r/seduction06/12/20 05:24 PM
1

As in being playful. She may have been teased into it by her friend, or she was bored and you were there. Either way, she wasn’t repulsed by you or she wouldn’t have given you the response. If she had no attraction at all she would have looked away or just apologized and turned away. You could have given her the come over here and sit with me look after the “sup” and if she shook her head no, shrug and ignore. Then she hits you again you keep going. think tennis. Ball was in your court after she…
/r/seduction06/12/20 05:13 PM
1

She was playing with you, certainly. Perfect opportunity.
/r/seduction06/12/20 05:04 PM
1

Stop complimenting her so much, and back off when she does. Give her some space to wonder about you.
/r/seduction06/12/20 01:21 PM
7

“I would like to go out on a date with you.” On the date: “Let’s go to my/your place” at residence: Remove his pants and proceed. Men are not complex.
/r/seduction05/12/20 02:40 PM
3

Charming! Everyone likes to be judged by the internet.
/r/seduction05/12/20 11:21 AM
1

Tell her you need to get your real estate license first, but you’ll get right on it. As a joke...
/r/seduction03/12/20 01:55 PM
2

Knowing that is ahead of where you were.
/r/seduction03/12/20 09:13 AM
1

“I gotta get to work, see you Saturday!”
/r/seduction01/12/20 12:04 PM
14

save some tension for the real deal, don’t overdo the texting or you’ll kill the mood.
/r/seduction01/12/20 01:18 AM
20

Or beer goggles!
/r/seduction01/12/20 01:12 AM
2

You’d know. 😁 Your body will be disabled with an overwhelming rush that will completely surprise you the first time. Tried vibrators? How about a sex therapist?
/r/seduction30/11/20 07:22 PM
1

I a woman wants this, she will start it and you can escalate.
/r/seduction30/11/20 03:10 PM
2

Just say, hi, what’s your name and smile? Or Holy crap, you’re beautiful, what’s your name? If she likes you back, which will be obvious, either way, get her number, then get lost. If she wants to talk a minute or whatever do that but have something to do, a book, or something to go back to. Don’t do this to multiple chicks in the car. This is numbers game stuff, so expect loads if rejection and enjoy that too. You can’t really say anything wrong, if a girl wants you, you could say just about an…
/r/seduction30/11/20 03:08 PM
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No, of course you can take a break, being a slave to the seduction game is just as bad as any other insecurity. Its like being a nice guy for the sake of impressing dudes with your score...f that!
/r/seduction29/11/20 07:01 PM
1

Silence builds tension and excitement and texting reduces stuff you can talk about in person because you’ve already covered it. Its like deflating a balloon.
/r/seduction28/11/20 04:40 PM
1

Nah, just wait and talk in person, getting to know someone over text is barely more valuable than your imagination.
/r/seduction28/11/20 03:51 PM
1

That’s my point, do that and watch her cringe. You do not need to do anything. Her attraction to you is not related to your attraction for her. You do not need to tell her your feelings unless she is telling you hers. If she says, “I really like you,” you should tell her you really like her to (if you do,) but gushing to her just looks like you are trying to convince her to do something in return. Saying “I like you this much” = “I really like you, please make me feel secure and say it back.”
/r/seduction25/11/20 05:57 PM
1

Tell her you are absolutely infatuated like a little kid, smile, laugh and watch her cringe. You don’t...there is no need to... at all.
/r/seduction25/11/20 04:44 PM
1

No one is making you do cold approach, if you don’t want to, don’t. I think its easier to approach women that show interest signals first, but I am not really playing numbers anyway.
/r/seduction25/11/20 11:56 AM
3

Try to stop thinking about anything but your exact moment in life. Use your eyes to see, feel through your nerves, listen with your ears and observe your thoughts. When you start thinking about the possible future, return to the present, same if you start thinking of the past. Your fears are self created, you can start to accept this and enjoy the moments with her or alone and then this confusion will cease!
/r/seduction24/11/20 12:31 AM
2

Tease her, challenge her in a funny way, ask her questions that get her talking about herself.
/r/seduction22/11/20 10:15 AM
1

Welcome to Darwinism at work? 😂 Maybe you should embrace the weird and go to festivals for weird people. There’s a weirdo or two out there for you!
/r/seduction21/11/20 08:14 PM
2

You can say whatever you want, if she wants to F you she wont care. You words do not convince a woman to hook up casually, they just have to know you want to and are strong enough in your personality to trust you. You could say, “I’d like to eat you right now.” And if she likes you and wants a casual hook up it could happen.
/r/seduction18/11/20 11:57 PM
3

Just accept that the first 10 or whatever times, you will act like goofball and fail. You’ll get better and stop worrying about the rejection. Once that fear is gone, it will flow like your normal flirting does. Once you have the actual confidence that girls will hook up with you, you’ll display the confidence you need.
/r/seduction18/11/20 11:47 PM
1

I got a lot out of reading The Power Of Now, it might take your mind off the need for validation. Good luck!
/r/seduction17/11/20 12:35 AM
2

Way too much mental drama. Seek therapy.
/r/seduction31/10/20 11:48 AM
1

Probably not, just give her a couple days. She’s either ghosting you or busy. more texting isn’t going to change her interest level
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:39 AM
2

Just ask her when she is available. If she gives you a time that works, set it up. If she backs off, or starts getting iffy, just give her space. forcing it wont be good but making it easy to date you will.
/r/seduction28/10/20 05:33 AM
2

I find myself thinking of what their dad, who is my age, would say, even if they are close to 30. Kinda takes the appeal away for me which is fine, the 20 year old women I meet are great looking but not attractive in that way anymore.
/r/seduction14/10/20 12:26 AM
1

Find a new partner.
/r/seduction10/10/20 09:37 PM
1

Probably just not understanding how unhelpful being mean is. Her behavior wasn’t helping her situation but insulting her doesn’t either.
/r/seduction10/10/20 05:26 AM
1

Kinda a shitty to throw a slut shame in there.
/r/seduction08/10/20 05:59 AM
1

Touch his arm, bite your lip while tilting your head. These are non verbal cues that might make him think about you differently. If he notices and draws back, you can drop it and it’s no biggy unless he is super avoidant and it scares him. But you want more, do you want to stay friends more than you want more?
/r/seduction08/10/20 05:47 AM
1

Married to one... working in my freedom!
/r/seduction26/09/20 05:14 AM
1

yep, just don’t spend a bunch of time fantasizing about it first, just do it and be done. Avoid worrying about a single person and what the outcome will be if you can.
/r/seduction25/09/20 03:19 AM
2

Your probably best to just give her space, just let her roll back in if she is interested. In this case, grabbing will just push her away.
/r/seduction20/09/20 09:23 AM
4

that title is extra cringy and great advice for learning seduction. Your not sounding all that seductive here.
/r/seduction20/09/20 08:59 AM
2

Does she smile? Does she put herself in close quarters so that you can interact when it’s unnecessary? Does she make conversation when it’s unneeded? Does she touch your arm? Does she ( doesn’t apply if you are in tight quarters where she could feel trapped) laugh at anything you say that could even remotely be a joke? Does she flip or play with her hair while you are sharing each other’s attention? If you smile at her, does she make herself scarce or does she look happier? Be honest with these …
/r/seduction19/09/20 08:53 PM
2

I think the stereotype is that women don’t care as much about how men look, not how they themselves look. They know men focus on the visuals of the women they want and therefore women try to garner as much adulation as possible for themselves. Sure, getting hot dudes interested is appealing but once that attractive man starts showing up lacking confidence and appearing needy, women often lose attraction. Fargly men with genuine confidence can carry some serious attraction among the ladies where …
/r/seduction19/09/20 08:44 PM
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Honestly I was just trolling the OP because all her posts are hate speech, broad strokes saying “all men are (insert insult here)” I have never, nor would I enter a strip club. I am morally opposed to Hooters restaurant. I turned down a job where I would get paid to eat there as a secret shopper. Everyone is different and some men are horrible and some are ok and some are amazing. Nobody is perfect. The reality is we make good fathers and often we take care of our families, making sacrifices to …
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/19 09:05 PM
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Ok, I’ll bite: Someone to pay them for dancing in the nude.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/19 08:19 PM
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Do you want a romantic partner? The way you talk on this dating sub is that it is impossible for men to be anything but depraved scum. I am curious about your reason for what has become hate speech and what you expect to gain from all this.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy10/12/19 08:18 PM
2

I’ve been married 16 years, I’m over twice your age and still trying to figure out relationships. Relax!
/r/seduction30/11/19 02:04 PM
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