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It's not within his power to not care....about what? the marriage? I'm not following you here...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:29 AM
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Maybe, but I believe you should get what you give. I didn't see your link until now, you must have added it after I responded. I wouldn't call 6% a "dramatic" increase. It also appears that the cause of the increase is due less to the fact that the wife earns more, and more due to the husband's reaction to that fact. He is more likely to cheat and less likely to perform his share of household duties if she earns more. So, it appears it is a situation that is completely within the power of the hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 10:33 PM
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It was meant to be. I find it unnecessarily rude to make up "facts" about women like: you have to make more money than her to ensure she doesn't grow restless with the concept of "supporting" a man financially And the hubris it took to make this ridiculous statement: This dynamic is known to dramatically increase the risk of divorce as a woman's income rises and exceeds that of her husband And then refuse to source the claim. Rude. Very rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 09:17 PM
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Wrong. I am certain his assertions are erroneous and based solely on his hysterical, emotional need to feel superior to women. His unsubstantiated comments have no basis in logic or fact, both of which are inherent, fundamental qualities of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 08:42 PM
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You're projecting you own sense of moral inferiority. I don't personally feel morally superior for simply asking for a study. And yes, if one can't support their assertions with a link to the "studies" they're basing those assertions on, then one shouldn't make those assertions to begin with. See my example above to that other guy. We aren't here to just have conversations. It is a debate sub. It's in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 08:07 PM
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I'm not trying to change your view, either. I made a good faith request for you to back up your assertions. You couldn't; so I provided you with some insight on how that makes your contribution worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 07:45 PM
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Backing up your assertions with objective data is the whole point of a debate sub. Otherwise, it just becomes a back and forth tit for tat of unsubstantiated opinion. All redpill dudes are fat, ugly, acne-ridden, bitter, nerdy pubescent virgins who are just angry not a single woman on the planet wants to touch their peepee. It's true. I've read it in studies. Attractive, socially adept men don't need an internet cult to tell them how to approach women. See how it works, kiddo? No one is open to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 07:20 PM
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Studies I have read So cite them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:32 PM
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Women initiating divorces isn't proof of hypergamy. Divorcing a man for emotional/physical abuse, drug/alcohol addiction, infidelity, etc., are not instances where a woman is just looking to trade up. You're right, the paper didn't address infidelity. We weren't talking about infidelity. We were talking about hypergamy. The paper indicates hypergamy (i.e. Non-assortative mating) has been on the decline for decades. Assortative mating is now the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:17 AM
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You're not particularly observant are you? Here's what Pembay said: Women are attracted to good looking, tall, fit, masculine men who have their shit together and who are badasses at work and in their personal lives I simply responded in the same order he put them in; except I left out tall. Because I'm only 5'7"-- so not particularly tall. 99.9% of the population Yes, the world. You insecure little boys are an infinitesimally small percent of the population. The rest of us figure out the whole …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:08 AM
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Lol. K.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:34 PM
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I read it. What didn't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:33 PM
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No argument there. But I'm also good-looking, fit, feminine, a total professional and personal badass, and have my shit together. So wanting those traits in a partner isn't "hypergamy" it's assortive mating (like attracts like). All those things aren't exclusive to redpill, either. Redpill didn't invent style, personal hygiene, or confidence; 99.9% of the population knows these things without seeking out advice from the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:28 PM
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Bullshit. Pure unadulterated bullshit. You don't have a clue want women are attracted to, or you wouldn't be on red pill. Source: real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:12 PM
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You keep citing the same study. I've seen it. Many times. She used NCIC arrest codes instead of offense level computations to "compare" the sentence lengths. Messy. Doesn't change the fact that if you're (general "you") white, you've benefitted from judicial leniency. Are you out there protesting that? Are you out there bravely arguing on Reddit how unfair it is that white males have an advantage over minority males in the judicial system? I mean, if you think the courts are biased, then it shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 05:09 PM
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If you're a white male convict, you've benefitted from the same judicial disparity (benevolent racism??lol), because you have received a shorter sentence for the same crime committed by a man of color. Don't let internalized misandry skew your perspective; try to remain open minded. This is not something women have "done" to you. It is perpetuated by men onto other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:23 PM
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Lol. No. A bunch of woman-hating little boys on Reddit aren't a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:06 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't equate potty training with societal tropes about the inherent morality of women. society bends over backwards to excuse women's bad behavior Source that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 02:41 PM
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women are NOT the saints I once thought they were See, I just don't get this. It seems to be a common talking point from TRP, but I sincerely don't understand how they came to this "understanding." Growing up, I was never indoctrinated into some "women are saints" trope (though I did get the whole "men are horndogs--don't trust them" thing, just as you did). Being a woman, I saw firsthand how shitty women could be (young girls can be brutal, even vicious), so it honestly never occurred to me to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:34 PM
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A couple of things: Firstly, there is undeniable statistical evidence in support of your first point. Men are responsible for most of the violence in this world. It is an immutable fact. Secondly, there is no statical proof of your second point. It's just a case of "feels over reals." In fact, this paper indicates the opposite. Assortive mating (i.e., mating between educational/social equals--NOT "marrying up") has been on the rise for decades and is now the norm. Also, if you want to argue that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 12:17 PM
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Finally! A rational, adult response from someone in this thread. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:39 AM
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What's so hard about this question? I don't get it?? It's yes/no...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:23 AM
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Jeez. Why can't I get a man in this thread to just answer my question? I honestly want to know: if your ex was a really shitty person/mother, would you be comfortable with this? Would you be ok with sharing 50/50 custody while you wait for your case to be placed on the docket? While you wait for an officer of the court (or CPS) to do an investigation? It's just a yes/no question....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:20 AM
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The starting point, right. The non-negotiable, mandated-by-statute starting point. Would you be comfortable with this starting point if your ex was an abusive drunk who neglected the kid? Honest question...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:08 AM
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Dude. Answer the question I asked you or don't bother replying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:30 AM
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They protested mandated (legislated) custody splits that remove judicial discretion. If you had a child and the mother was an abusive drunk, would you want the court to be mandated to allow her 50% custody of your child? Or would you prefer the court exercise discretion in your specific circumstance?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:22 AM
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Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:16 AM
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If you had a child and the mother was an abusive drunk, would you want the courts to mandate 50/50 custody? Or would you prefer the courts to have discretion and perhaps take the specifics of your situation into account?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 02:46 AM
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Boden will be out eventually What are you talking about? Out from where? He got zero jail time. Zero. He got probation and will NOT be required to register. He'll spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder That's a nice little revenge fantasy. I propose that the woman in this case will do the same. She will never get a good nights sleep, trying to live with what she did. Yes! Making shit up IS fun! You know she was convicted, right? Did you read the article? Parental deceit and fraud. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:59 PM
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I never said I wasn't on his side. What this woman did was unconscionable, but it's being presented (in typical TRP fashion) that all women are like this. And that is my primary objection. BP doesn't post things like in my examples and then expect RP to defend the man, or the court decision. I have countless examples wherein I could argue "all men are like that," but, unlike red pillers, I don't believe that to be true so I can't argue it in good faith. It's silly, in my opinion, to post one exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:44 PM
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As part of the deal, Boden will not be required to register as a sex offender. Didn't read them all, did you? The justice system failed the victims in these cases. No jail time for brutalizing children; that is a miscarriage of justice. A few years of child support payments absolutely pales in comparison. My point was, no one is making posts expecting men to explain and defend the actions of these monsters. No one is expecting RP to explain the gross judicial leniency in these cases. Expecting B…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:29 PM
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And my examples prove men get away with vicious sexual assaults on a pretty regular basis. The law favors men. Rapists. Child molesters. The judge in the case of the DuPont heir refused to put the guy in jail for raping his 3 year old daughter because he felt the defendant "wouldn't fare well in prison." It proves that little girl had no recourse against the piece of shit that did that to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:11 PM
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alimony for the child That's...that doesn't exist. Is your expertise in family law limited to perusal of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:02 PM
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Right!? BP should start posting stories of men raping/murdering/molesting and demand that all red pillers explain and defend their actions, because, you know, all men are like that. Like this guy who got home confinement and probation for raping his 3 year old toddler. Or this guy, with three rape convictions, was only sentenced to probation. Or this guy who got 45 days jail and 5 years deferred adjudication for raping a 14 year old girl. Or this piece of shit who sexually assaulted a two year o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:58 PM
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No one with a triple digit IQ or an education past primary school would have to "grasp" for those examples, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 03:19 PM
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Moon landings, splitting the atom, computers Surely you know one of the pioneers of nuclear fission (and the first to correctly theorize it) was a woman? And of course you also know that the first person to write a computer program was a woman? And the person who was pivotal in helping create NASA was also....a woman. You should maybe crack open a book more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:09 PM
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"you people" - are so consistently keen on protecting yourself from the scourge of dissenting opinions Surely you realize the irony of a red piller saying this? TRP insta-bans anyone who dares post a dissenting opinion on that sub. Not the case for TBP, as far as I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 10:41 PM
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So you didn't try to digest the information (the study), you just had an emotional, knee jerk reaction to the OP itself. Even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:24 PM
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blue pilled dementia you blue pill idiots destroying people's lives Next, the original post. I didn't read it cause I'm too lazy I can't debate an emotional, irrational person who didn't even bother reading the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 06:59 PM
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Also that more masculine men are actually nicer to women (the study in his edit). This makes sense. It kind of bolsters a theory (opinion, really) that I have--that all the anger and misogyny really just stems from insecurity in their own masculinity and sense of inferiority. I mean, if you believe on some subconscious level that women are superior to you, you have to knock them down somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 06:42 PM
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I would argue that "not being happy" or "desperation" cannot be used as justification for hating on half of the world's population. I don't think TRP is the worst phenomenon to be worried about, either. There are much bigger things going on in the world. But, we are in a forum pertaining to it. It is just the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:11 PM
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Did you read the linked article? ...young males are so vulnerable to environmental influences, such as the prevailing culture in which they happen to live, and why they are so easily attracted by charismatic leaders or lifestyles that promise membership of restricted groups with sharply defined objectives and values
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:52 PM
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Yes, the linked article is. But he is speaking from a foundation on his work (and findings) as a neuroscientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:50 PM
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Yes, I realize that. Professor Herbert even says that exact thing in the linked article. Society has benefitted from the undeveloped frontal lobes of many thousands upon thousands of young men. I never said there was anything wrong with the inherent trait. It's the situations wherein this trait is exploited that Herbert is saying are cause for concern. I think TRP exploits this trait in angry, disenfranchised young dudes. Magnifying and bolstering all that impotent rage cannot be conducive to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:47 PM
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Well, no, I'm not assuming that. In the article, Professor Herbert states young men are drawn to these groups often because they lack status elsewhere. Once a part of a group, his standing in the new group becomes paramount. It is his shared lack of status (in the out-group') that cements his identification with the new 'in-group.'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:19 PM
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Good save.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:16 PM
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I don't think of being "a sheep" as being a conformist. I think of it more as being easily led. As a shepherd might lead sheep, one might say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:15 PM
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Men tend to be tribal I guess you can "soften" the language this way; but the reality is (and what Professor Herbert is saying), is that young men are easily led and manipulated by strong personalities. They're prone to an emotional attachment to an ideology and are often willing to defend that ideology at all costs (even with their lives, in some historical cases). It is my opinion that this is why TRP is harmful to young, impressionable, angry boys. The ideology becomes their identity. All tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:08 PM
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Yes, a perfect example of Professor Herbert's theory; thank you. A vehement defense of the group to which you belong, even at the risks of being shunned by the dominant majority group. That is, RP is .0000001% of the population; and it's irrational talking points must be defended, even insulted, in an effort to retain standing or status within RP. That was beautiful, Archwinger, I thank you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 03:54 PM
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But you just can't generalize people. Kind of like how TRP generalizes all women? You can't do that, huh? Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 01:32 AM
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Never go full retard, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 02:56 AM
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Bullshit. You're not very knowledgeable about parental rights are you? Now that I've read the rest of this thread, I see that several people have patiently explained this to you time and time again. You can continue to live in angry ignorance. No skin off my back. Cya
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:53 PM
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Jesus Christ dude. Calm down. It was just an example to show where one parent (the father) would have sole custody. If that example offends your delicate sensibilities, pretend the mother gave birth, didn't want it, and turned it over to the father. In either case, he would have the right to drop the kid off at a safe haven.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:43 PM
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You're still confusing the rights of the mother (and father) with the rights of the child. Safe haven laws aren't for the mother, they're for the child. A child, having already been born, has a right to life just like any other human. Also, safe haven laws don't just apply to women. Here's a scenario: you get your gf pregnant and she dies in childbirth; you have sole custody. Don't want the kid? Drop it off at a fire station.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 07:04 PM
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Don't want to pay child support? Don't impregnate a woman. Your choice. Wear a condom 100% of the time; get a vasectomy; be celibate. It's your own fucking choice and don't whine about the possible consequences of your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 05:06 PM
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You're confusing the rights of the woman with the rights of the child. It's a false equivalency. The woman has a right to bodily autonomy. If she chooses to have the child (which you have no right or authority over, just as she has no rights over your body) then there is a third party involved. The child. And the child has a right to your financial support. Don't like it, don't have unprotected sex. Easy peezy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 05:03 PM
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It's not "little" and it's certainly not "pesky." At least, not in my relationship. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 12:00 AM
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Oh, I'm sure there are women like that. Probably more prevalent in young girls. But it's not my experience (which I qualified); or the experience of my specific peer group. So I can't say, with any intellectual honesty, that it's a 'woman thing.'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 11:59 PM
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Sooo... you're essentially a shell of a person just waiting around for a woman to define you as a human being. That's actually pretty typical of men, in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 08:07 PM
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No source. No discussion. I sourced my point and your refusal to speak about the facts only tells me you're one of the hysterical, overly emotional terps. No time for that. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:02 PM
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I meant why aren't single men buying homes, which is a big factor in investing for the future? The stats say almost twice as many single women as single men are doing it. And my point is there are plenty of women saying the same thing: "well why the fuck should I bother getting married?" Women can have the same things (materially/financially) now as men traditionally have had in the past and don't need to get married to accomplish it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 03:59 PM
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Unmarried men over 40 are generally much happier than unmarried women over 40, who have much higher rates of depression. Source that. but generally women want to get married far more than men do Verifiably false. 55% of never-married men and 50% of never-married women say they would like to be married The idea of a woman in her late-thirties and forties living like some kind of bachelor, 'managing her portfolio, travelling whenever she wants, and getting laid whenever she wants' and finding fulf…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 03:29 PM
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Its the ultimate validation and social status for women to be married. No it isn't. If it were, we wouldn't have women opting out of marriage in record numbers (historically speaking).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:38 PM
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Actually not true. Just as many never-married men (and even slightly more than never-married women) say they want to be married someday. Never-married men and women have similar views on this question: 55% of men and 50% of women say they would like to get married someday. (The difference is not statistically significant.) Source
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:35 PM
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Huh? Men under 33 don't suck (I mean, red pillers suck, but MEN don't). I think it's just that now that women have choices about what to do with their lives, it turns out they want to live a life fulfilled by other things than just marriage and kids. Women are the more pragmatic sex. Afforded the opportunity, they buy a home, advance in their career, and invest their money. Just a few generations ago, they couldn't do that. Now they can. And they do. The question is, why aren't single men doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:20 PM
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I agree with you, in theory. But I don't think it's a result of "unrealistic standards" and more of an issue of attaining financial independence and just general disinterest. Single women under 33 years old are buying their first homes at almost twice the rate of single men (16% vs 9%). Let's just be honest here, if a woman can make mad money, own a home, have a nice car (or two), manage her portfolio, travel wherever she wants, and get laid whenever she wants, why get married? There's just no p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:25 AM
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frat stars athletes ripped players You are so close to the answer....women are attracted to physically attractive men. I know, it's shocking, right!? Forget all that ridiculous "status" crap TRP sells you. It's just their way of rationalizing their failure with women, because, hey, who wants to admit they're ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:13 PM
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This is mostly to do with the West. Ok. So one single point is nullified (sex-selective abortions)? In the West, women are still much more likely to be murdered by their partners or be a victim of sex trafficking than men. Treated as property; less than human; disposable. I just don't buy the whole 'only men are treated as disposable' argument. At all. Are they void of value? I'm sorry you're wrestling with this. I don't know your story, but doesn't it kinda depend on what you find valuable in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 06:17 PM
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Why does anyone's value have to be based on their gender? How are women 'secure from disposability' when they are six times more likely to be murdered by their partners than men are; far more likely to be denied a right to life with sex-selective abortions in many countries; and are overwhelmingly (76%) the victims of sex trafficking? Globally, women are treated equally disposable, or even more disposable than men. What about women who choose not to have children (a statistic on the rise)? Are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:35 PM
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TRP doesn't have a fucking clue what women want in men. How on earth could they "teach" it? TRP is just telling each other what they want in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:10 PM
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Not young and have not "failed to analyze egalitarian relationships." I know it's hard for you, but try not to make this about me, mmmkay? You have failed to address my comments completely. RP and RPW are outliers. They are not the norm. That's why they have Internet forums wherein they commiserate with each other on how to behave in society. The rest of us, 99.999% of the population, manage to have healthy, satisfying sex lives. Go figure. I'm done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:15 AM
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My experience and observations are exactly the opposite. Most women want a man who is intelligent and mature enough to handle an egalitarian relationship. And since RP and RPW are a minuscule, infinitesimally small, portion of the population, 99.99999% of society agrees with me. RPWs don't "lack feminist programming," they just have a 1950s housewife fetish. And they're free to live that way if they choose. But they are NOT most women. Because, like I said, if they were, red pill dudes wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 02:28 AM
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Yes. They are outliers. Which does nothing to support your position. TrollY is full of men who'd be happy to buy me dinner. Big deal. If a majority of the female population wanted what RPW want, this sub (and red pill) wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:54 AM
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I've never, ever seen a RPer post numerous published studies, with footnotes. The only thing I've seen from them is that OKCupid study. Consistently. But I don't spend a lot of time here, so ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:32 AM
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Never said they weren't. Outliers don't prove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:21 AM
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I wasn't talking about some niche sexual fetish, which a minority of women participate in. Women in general are not attracted to dominant men as RP defines it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:16 AM
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Because they don't exist. Not in the way you're defining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 12:13 AM
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Define "cocky." Then define "dominant." Merriam-Webster defines dominant as "overlooking and commanding from a superior position." Quality women will not tolerate that superiority bullshit. Did you even read the OP? That's the entire gist of it. And I didn't say dominant men were abusive. I said they were jerks. No one likes a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 10:50 PM
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Nice post, OP. Cue all the RPers comments of "this isn't REAL science!" or "the studies were poisoned by feminist controlled academia!" The only "science" RPers accept as legitimate are OKCupid surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 10:37 PM
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That's because they don't exist. Quality women abhor a cocky, aggressive, "dominant" jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 10:29 PM
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I'm all for TRPers posting pictures. It should be a requirement. Women face body-shaming on a pervasive scale. You guys should do it to each other, too. Equality!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 02:53 PM
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That's why I said context is important. I was responding to an OP about a dude who essentially just walks up and starts touching. It's gross and women don't like it (see this thread for evidence). And I know plenty of people (men and women) who don't like to be touched by strangers. It's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:54 PM
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Well, exactly. That's why I told the OP I'd give him a fake number, smile politely, say nice to meet you, then forgot he even existed. Some dude I just met putting his hands on me is a no-go. I wouldn't give a shit what rationale he used, it would just be an instant turn-off. Next. No biggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:39 PM
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So yeah. You are. Intellectually, anyway. Gotcha. Disengage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:05 PM
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OP doesnt want to change his view. Despite every single woman (and some men) on this thread bluntly telling him that his fictional terper is an obvious tool, prime for ridicule, he will hold fast to the idea that this guy would be getting action from the ladies all night. Because he saw it work in a movie once.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:47 PM
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Are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:39 PM
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Context is everything, dude. My husband is welcome to put his hand on my back anytime...but some stranger who I've just met? Hells no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:34 PM
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Let's be honest. You're that impotently angry little boy who has to resort to personal insults on the internet to feel better about your life. So alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:31 PM
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Thing is, the behaviors that might garner them a small measure of initial success don't really have anything to do with redpill. Lose weight, dress well, get a hobby, don't be a simpering doormat....all these things are common-sense advice that have been around forever. And no matter how much they deny it ("we've been LIED to our WHOLE lives!! Boohoo!!") everyone but redpillers knows these simple things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 08:26 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Guys who are successful with women are NOT terpers. That's a fantasy. TRP is DEFINED as "losers who can't get laid." Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 03:40 PM
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You're making a lot of assumptions in the little piece of fiction that clearly show you don't know a goddamn thing about how women think. I'll school you, grasshoppa. A man who walks up cold and "teases." My reaction? A derisive snort and a walk away. I'm not in junior high; you don't have to pull my pigtails to get my attention anymore. A man who "takes over the conversation." Fucking yawn. Boring. If I want to know anything about you, I'll ask the questions. I refuse to stand and listen to som…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 03:33 PM
2

Dude. You didn't know? Forty year old fat, balding men with penises that don't work are trying to hook up with 18 year old girls. Do you even redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 12:33 AM
8

Change nothing about your appearance. Just work into the conversation that you have had sex > 20 men and black guys are the best lays. Doesn't matter that neither comment may be true, those insecure little fucks will run for the hills. Mission accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 01:45 PM
5

Wrong. By age 40, 40% of men are affected by erectile disfunction. By age 70, 70% are affected. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 01:13 PM
3

Must be: Fit, 6' or over, broad shouldered. I prefer dark hair & eyes (blue eyes just look watery and weak to me). I also prefer a hairy chest, tight ass, and big, strong hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 04:23 PM
2

Don't take things so seriously. The juvenile and vacuous idea that "all women like bad boys" deserves to be pissed on. As does the idea that women can't love you for who you are (but that's how TRP views women, so I guess it fits in their world view of how relationships work). And that dude is ok. Not my type. I probably wouldn't even notice him out in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 06:59 PM
1

No fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:11 PM
3

I'll let you in on something, dude. Women don't like bad boys because they're bad. Have you ever seen a "bad boy" who was pasty white, short, fat, bespectacled, and pimple ridden? No. You haven't. Women like physically attractive men. Sorry to break that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 12:21 PM
0

If he's ugly, I'd tell him: "just be yourself, looks don't matter!" 99.9% of the worlds population knows that is code for: "you lost the genetic lottery, honey, just do your best." If he's average looking and there is room for improvement, I'd help him with his style. Total makeover.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:38 AM
7

This. When your entire self-worth is predicated on what the opposite sex thinks of you, you've become a slave to their whims. Redpillers think they've knocked women "off the pedestal," but they've actually put women on a freaking mountaintop.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:25 AM
2

So...yes? Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 01:29 AM
1

What do you mean exactly by "being a cunt"? That they won't fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 12:46 AM
3

Ridicule is amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 03:03 PM
2

I guess gavinok doesn't know that soldiers (other than MPs) are not allowed to carry sidearms while not on maneuvers. Nidal Hasan knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 01:14 AM
24

Men are the majority of homicide victims. Of the 12,996 murder victims in 2010 for which supplemental data were received, most (77.4 percent) were male. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 1.) Men are obviously overconfident in their ability to avoid murder. They should never leave the house without having their gun/OC spray, and they should all be black belts in some form of martial arts. Men have been socialized to minimize or ignore their risks, leading to a heavily inflated sense of physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 07:43 PM
3

Because I don't date women. I don't care what they're doing. Because I don't feel a lot of sympathy for the situation. Men are now being subjected to what they've been doing to women for decades (and are still doing at a higher rate). Oh well. One gender shouldn't be held to a standard the other gender refuses to meet. Before you go off on some "but empathy!" rant--I agree no one should cheat. It's wrong. But it happens. One can only try to mitigate risk and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 01:36 PM
3

I didn't say anything about divorces. I was citing infidelity stats. Men cheat more. Why are you all up in arms about women doing it too? And, you think feminists are "murking" the data on all the studies--literally pages of them--that come up with a search? Seriously? Lol. Kbyethx.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:56 AM
3

Excuses for what? And what 'crap' do I believe? That men cheat more? Well, according to very simple Google searches for the stats, they do. Women are cheating more than ever in history and STILL haven't surpassed the men in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:42 AM
5

Men still cheat more than women (according to Google). So what does that say about marriage, divorce, relationships and society?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:28 AM
4

It's a red pill mantra to never get married; so why would you guys care about 'pair bonding'? You're doing a lot of hysterical pearl-clutching over something that shouldn't matter to you (if you're RP).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 12:20 AM
1

Can I ask if you called into question the humanity of the redpillers who posted such gems as: 99.9% of all single mothers are subhuman scum all women want to be raped by a high SMV man all women are children Just curious. Did you call them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 04:00 PM
2

I'll address the biggest issue with her 'scientific method.' In describing her findings based on women's self reports, she interjected her own beliefs to the exclusion of other explanations. Chivers concluded women "don't know" when they are aroused; when in fact, it could be that women know very well when they're aroused but will not admit it due to fear of social stigma, embarrassment, etc. It's the same logic at play when women down-play their partner count. You've seen the viscious slut-sham…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 03:39 PM
2

many crave leadership and a dominant man Not really. Some. A minority. And yes, if you want to be dominant, search for a partner that wants to submit (for both genders, btw). I've already said more power to you-go forth and be happy. My point, again, is that most women find it off-putting. It can be found, but it's not the norm nor is it the ideal partnership in most women's eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 03:02 PM
1

And more power to you and yours if it works. But that's not how it is in mine. That's not how it is in any of the other married couples I know. And it isn't what I hear single friends saying they want in a marriage. The majority of women do not want to be 'dominated.' The arbitrary assignment of genitalia at birth does not qualify anyone to be dominant or superior to anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 02:33 PM
1

Oh no! Are you offended by swearing? Well, fuck. Apologies, I suppose. Do you feel dehumanized? By which comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 02:23 PM
2

Right. And sometimes the woman is the CEO and the man gets delegated tasks. And she makes the decisions. That's real life. In my marriage, we joke that I am CFO and he is the COO. We take turns being CEO, depending on what skills are needed to reach a specific goal. This isn't "dominance;" it's teamwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 01:46 PM
2

That study is a load of horseshit. But nice little insult you got in there, dude. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 10:53 AM
3

Why wouldn't I be able to consciously answer that? I am an adult, you know. And to answer the question: Hell, no. He's hot whether he's following or leading.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 04:32 AM
5

Nope. Still not "benevolent leadership." At least, not as I think you're interpreting it. A man that can assert himself situationally is seen as a competent leader. It's not a relationship constant, though and it's not gender specific. For example, there are situations where my SO takes the lead because he has the skill set necessary to accomplish the goal (like welding). There are other times where I take the lead because my skill set is needed. It is not a situation where one person is ever co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 04:02 AM
4

Women want competence in a man (not dominance--that's ridiculous). A man who is decisive about his own life (not my life, I got that covered) and has his shit together. A man that is mentally and emotionally mature enough to handle the real world without throwing tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants. That dominance bullshit is just a RP/RPW fetish. The overwhelming majority of women would laugh in your face if you tried to "dominate" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 03:44 AM
1

Stopped reading at #4. Pure, unadulterated, absolute and complete bullshit. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/15 03:26 AM
11

Men need women more, or TRP wouldn't exist. Every metric they use to define themselves as "men" revolves around their relation to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 12:52 PM
3

No. Dude. It doesn't. But feel free to luxuriate in your illusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 08:17 PM
9

women care more about your aura Lol! This is an ugly-man fantasy. Wishful thinking. Women can't fuck an "aura."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 03:33 PM
1

I would do the same for a man that earnestly and respectfully asked for advice. But, let's be honest, both you and I know that's NOT how redpillers approach the issue. "All women are evil, manipulative, conniving sluts" (or mentally inferior, irresponsible children--depending on the day) is not valuable dating advice, nor is it indicative of a healthy, realistic worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 11:35 PM
5

blatant mischaracterization Not really. It's just a logical extrapolation. I'll explain it to you.... Hot-as-fuck, socially adept dudes don't need an Internet "theory" to get laid. Only fat, ugly, short, socially awkward men do. Their participation in red pill is predicated on the fact that they're sexual failures. Hence, it makes perfect sense to make a generalization about their alleged attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 10:56 PM
4

I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Rational, well-adjusted people don't want to date redpillers. It's horrifying to think about. Just like redpillers don't want to date single moms and sluts. Does that help you sort it out in your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 02:22 PM
1

And you would be correct. The root cause of insecurity is fear. Fear of rejection, fear of being laughed at, fear of hurt feelings...these often manifest as insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 04:42 PM
0

TRP is scared of cuckolding TRP is scared of women. We terrify them. They've had to concoct an entire ideology on how to talk to us, for chissakes. They are terrified that we might cheat on them, so they rage about cuckolding. They are terrified they will pale in comparison to our past sexual partners, so they slut-shame mercilessly. They are terrified we'll walk all over them, so they rage about "maintaining frame." They are terrified we'll dump them, so they play dread game. Etc etc etc Every …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 02:24 PM
3

Wow. You took the time to read my comment history, A. Asshole. I'm flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:46 PM
2

Wasn't feeling bad...(?) I was just pointing out that people that don't like people tend to not be liked by people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:39 PM
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Everything they post is a circle jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:37 PM
1

I'm a woman, ya idiot. But your obsession with dick is duly noted, bro. Let your freak flag fly, honey! Be proud!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:35 PM
2

I'm sure the feeling is mutual, hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:25 PM
1

Yes. Yes you are. Give mommy her phone back, sweetie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 08:24 PM
4

Right!? If a man is MGTOW, it's a foregone conclusion that he's already been shunned & rejected by women. Why, then, would women care that he's "going his own way"? But he seems to think they do. I would say true reclusives are probably more misanthropic than MGTOW; rather than writing off just women, they cut off connection with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:06 PM
1

Jesus H. Christ. Are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 06:00 PM
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Because they're not really going their own way. Even their little "movement" is centered around getting women's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:15 PM
1

Typical juvenile, impotent-rage filled response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 05:13 PM
5

You're totally right. Women are unsuitable for marriage. You should totally go MGTOW. It's really the only solution for you redpiller losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 09:42 PM
0

Provide the links you were told to, or stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 09:36 PM
0

Provide the links you were told to, or stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 04:12 PM
1

You guys need to get with the times!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:10 PM
1

Please link me to sites/blogs that spewed vitriol and hate about all men that pre-date the redpill/Manosphere. I don't think that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:09 PM
0

Can you not read??? From 1921 to 2012; males could not be raped by law. It was impossible. Thanks to feminist, males can now be viewed as victims of rape. Now provide the links you were told to, or stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:05 PM
5

Deflection. Typical cop-out from a Terper. So fucking....beta. Provide the links or concede the point that men have done nothing except cry behind their keyboards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:47 AM
5

You just go right ahead and link proof of all the hard work men, and men's rights activists, have done to rectify that. Go ahead, I'll be waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 11:36 PM
5

Wrong. It was feminists who lobbied the FBI to change its definition of rape to include male victims. From 1921 until 2012, the FBI's definition of rape (which controlled how rape stats are reported on the UCR) was "carnal knowledge of a female, forcibly and against her will." From 2013 to present, the definition includes the penetration of mouth, vagina, or anus of any person against their will or without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:11 PM
3

So, you found a website/blog where women treat (or think of) men as something less than human. How dare they!! It's not like there are any sites/blogs where MEN treat (or think of) WOMEN as less than human! oh, wait.....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 02:37 PM
0

someone who doesn't have children because they can't...doesn't count as childless by choice. Yes it does. As I stated, she chooses to stay with her infertile spouse and thus chooses childlessness over finding another mate or artificial insemination. I think you're making a lot of assumptions based on your biases. It is indisputable fact that more women than ever are childless. With the options available to women today, how can this not be by other than their own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:08 AM
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There are more childless women than at any other time in recorded history (of the Census Bureau). That is an undeniable fact, no matter how you break down the age range. It was disingenuous of you to say the data set didn't include women over the age of 35, when it most definitely does. Furthermore, you need to understand that infertility (according to your CDC link) is almost as likely due to MALE infertility as female (approximately 6% to 7.5% respectively). Regardless, it is a very small perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 11:46 PM
2

I don't have contempt for men. Men have added love, laughter, and meaning to my life. I only have contempt for TRP dudes. I don't (and don't know any women who does) "look down" on low SMV men. I may not want to fuck them, but I don't "look down" on them as people. Many average/below average guys have my esteem and friendship because they're awesome human beings. Ah you're back You spend way too much time here, X
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 01:55 AM
2

It said the data set was women aged 15-44. What is the number of infertile women? Where are you getting that number?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 08:41 PM
2

Dude. YOU did. YOU got owned. Majestically, painfully obviously owned.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 07:18 PM
2

According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey, in 2014, 47.6 percent of women between age 15 and 44 had never had children, up from 46.5 percent in 2012. This represents the highest percentage of childless women since the bureau started tracking that data in 1976. Here is the info summarized in a Time article.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:59 PM
3

Are YOU going to pick up an AR-15 Do YOU even know what an AR-15 is Will YOU fly fighter jets Will YOU manufacture bombs, cars YOU made it about me. YOU were rapid firing all these smug fucking assumptions at me. And YOU got owned.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:40 PM
1

Sure, it's still a small fraction; but it's growing. Exponentially. Just 2 generations ago, people (women specifically) didn't even really have the choice. You got married and had kids. That's just "what you did." It was expected. But not so much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:35 PM
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More and more women are shunning kids. This trend has been growing over the last couple of decades and, I anticipate, will continue to grow in future generations. I've seen this happen too many times to count SOLIPSISM!! This isn't about YOU, dude. How dare you share a personal observation. I hope these ladies enjoy their strings of attractive men Oh, they will. They will. You know, it's just sex. It's not a big deal when you get it on the regular. But I guess you wouldn't know about that. Recov…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:31 PM
3

My, my aren't you a smug little boy. I do know what an AR-15 is. I have a limited edition Colt AR-15 (5.56/.223) with Magpul rails and collapsible stock. I also have a Remington .22LR, a Remington 1100 12 gauge (an inheritance from my dad), a Ruger LCP .380, and a Glock 22 4thGen .40 (traded in my 3rdGen for it last year). Not only could I take up arms for my country, I'd probably out shoot you, my little keyboard warrior. And there are female jet pilots, you know. There are women in manufacturi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 06:23 PM
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You're already rejecting the men who would otherwise be there to finance it I make damn good money. I finance things myself, and a growing number of women do, too. change the oil, fix the toilet, do the heavy lifting Don't need a live-in man for these things. Drop the car off at Jiffy Lube, call a plumber, hire a contractor, whatever. It's one of the benefits of making damn good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:43 PM
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She speaks for a LOT of women. More and more of us are shunning marriage and kids. We outnumber men in college now and are probably on pace to start out-earning them in the next couple of decades, too. So you're wrong when you say we "aren't suited to it." The dynamics are changing. Being a breadwinner isn't that much of an attractant anymore. When a women can buy her own home (happening in record numbers), work a satisfying job, have a very healthy bank account, and have sex anytime she wants i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 02:31 PM
3

I just wanted to say I'm enjoying your posts. Your (patient) tenacity and sense of humor really shines through. However, I'm sad to report that you're probably engaging in an monumental exercise in futility. I don't think these redpill/MGTOW guys will ever "get" what is just normal human interaction to the rest of us. And they will never believe it's really just as simple as 'you get what you give.'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 12:01 AM
0

Dude. You got REKT! LMMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 11:44 PM
12

Lose weight, be as attractive as genetically possible, get a hobby, actually talk to real live women. It's not rocket science. TRP just repackages and regurgitates age-old, well-established advice then 'claims' it as their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 02:16 AM
3

Artificial wombs are what I was referencing. I don't think they'll have to be 'implanted' on a man, though; they'll most likely be installed in controlled environments, like a lab. Then the only hurdle is an easy, pain-free way to harvest human eggs. It's a win-win for both genders as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:34 PM
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The only people who would say this are people who obviously haven't seen many (read: 'any') vaginas. It's ridiculously juvenile.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 06:16 PM
3

Not really true. Any woman, no matter how unattractive, can choose to have a child by going to a sperm bank. It's only obese or hideously unattractiive men who will be "pruned" until technology allows otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 05:28 PM
1

IDK, I wouldn't have any problem at all with a virgin. And I've never heard any other woman say they'd have a problem with it. The person you replied to (regardless of her history) made the statement that she didn't care about a guys partner count and in my experience, that holds true for many women. It seems to be only you TRP guys that make an issue out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 04:04 PM
2

Let me get this straight, you believe he was overestimating his ability to get casual sex (presumably because he wasn't applying TRP tactics); yet, the defining attribute of TRP is that it is comprised of men who cannot get casual sex? That is to say, men who are successful with women don't need TRP. You're taking dating/relationship advice from men who are part of a group that is defined by their failure with women; it's the reason TRP exists. How does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:36 PM
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Why is that? I've never had a guy ask me about past partners, and never had any girl friends who told me a guy they were dating asked about past partners. This is only something I hear/see on this subreddit. I guess my point is, how can you logically and rationally believe you know what "most people's experiences" are?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 03:25 PM
1

No, it's all good. I knew you didn't have any proof, I just wanted everyone else in this thread to know it too. Enjoy your evening!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:24 PM
2

That wasn't your claim. You're hamstering. You claimed TRP had made the front page of Reddit. Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 11:02 PM
0

TRP has never made the front page. In fact, RPers are consistently mocked, ridiculed, and downvoted into oblivion when they venture out onto Reddit spewing their ideology. You know this; and that's why you have no links to post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 10:24 PM
3

You made the claim that TRP has made the front page of Reddit. Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:58 PM
0

Please link these front page TRP posts. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:06 PM
1

Are you 12? For the love of God, shhhh...the grown ups are talking, hon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 04:55 PM
0

Do all women a favor then. Get sterilized. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 04:55 PM
0

I was describing a hypothetical man in response to your query about why 'just being yourself' is good (or bad advice) depending on what kind of person you really are. I don't know exactly why you're getting so angry. Just kidding, yes I do. Its pretty obvious. And yeah, dude, if you literally cannot think of a woman as a human being or a friend, you deserve to die a virgin. Best of luck. I'm done with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:52 AM
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Depends. Is he "good, decent, empathetic person" who is just really fucking pissed off that no matter how nice he is, women won't fuck him? Because that means he is not, in essence, a "good, decent, empathetic person". He's an asshole. And yeah, 'just be yourself' is not going to work for him either. Is he a "good, decent, empathetic person" capable of creating and maintaining meaningful friendships with women (men, too, I suppose) but he's perhaps socially awkward, or maybe less attractive than…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:24 AM
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He has no options except those she gives him. You're missing my entire point...your premise is based on the idea that the man has NO AGENCY. I'm telling you he has ALL the agency. It's HIS penis. He can wear a condom--no matter what the girl tells him. Unless, you're honestly saying that a man is incapable of making his own decisions and MUST do what the woman tells him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 01:03 AM
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It's called an analogy. We are not, in essence, discussing birth control methods. We are discussing deception. Try to stay with me. So, your position is that a man being lied to by a woman is just a poor hapless victim without any agency or control over himself. Even though he has complete and total control over whether or not he wears a condom. But a woman who is lied to is still the only party to blame. She made a poor choice, it's all her fault. That is TRP's stance on the subject, is it your…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 11:59 PM
2

were likely fucked up before they ever heard of red pill This is something I agree with. Many RPers say they were "blue pill" before they got dumped/cheated on/whatever, but I personally believe they weren't what most of us would think of as "blue pill." They were just "Pre-red pill." An overwhelming majority of human beings face heartbreak and adversity without turning to a sexual strategy or toxic life philosophy. Many RPers have expressed disgust with the "blue pill" advice to 'just be yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 05:14 PM
3

Lol, terper. It truly needs to be more...sophisticated and subtle. But, hey, good try!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:55 PM
5

There's a push to ban it? Where? I've seen no such thing.....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:49 PM
0

Dude. Calm down. Stop yelling...your stoicism is slipping and you've totally lost frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:43 PM
0

So, no. You have no evidence in support of your statements. Men are not in any shape, form, or fashion shamed for being "divorce-raped" by TRP. Only single moms. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:30 PM
1

I'm not talking about women. I'm talking about men. You have not once stated that men have any blame. You've said they're "crappy people" or the TRP "doesn't like that." Not that they have any blame, or should be shamed for it as TRP does single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:27 PM
0

You're not responsible because she lied? So, men don't have autonomy or agency over their own penises? That's a cop-out. I bet you're willing to blame the women if she believed the man when he said, "Don't worry, baby, I'll pull out. You'll be safe."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 04:22 PM
7

Of course they think that. All these single mothers, driving caddys, dripping in gold & diamonds, buying yachts; all while their children go without food, shelter or clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:41 AM
7

Can you please link me one (just one little link) wherein TRP is calling "divorce-raped" men subhuman scum? hint: I won't be holding my breath
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:37 AM
6

Perhaps men will start being a bit more careful about who they're impregnating? Why is it never the man's fault in the TRP world?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 01:33 AM
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What about OP's original question? Shouldn't "divorce-raped" men be equally as blamed for their poor choices? Are they to blame, just like these awful single moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 12:53 AM
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Uhhh... Men not paying child support for their own kids is the fuck up. Your tax dollars are subsidizing men who refuse to face their responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 12:46 AM
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Ummm...this is copy pasta. Taken directly from their currently stickied post spewing hate on single mothers. I just substituted "redpillers" for "single mothers." I was simply making a point about your belief that it's actually TBP that's full of hate speech. You're mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 02:28 AM
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Because redpillers are complete and utter mother fucking subhuman scum 99.9% of the time. The statistics for redpillers shows all manner of dysfunction (poverty, mental illness, crime, chronic virginity). But redpillers- they play the victim angle like a motherfucker and all the SJWs/politically correct bluepillers make the correct fucking assumption that it's the redpillers fault, revoking all agency or blame from the women who chose to shun them. But the redpillers don't see it like that, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 11:56 PM
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I could give you a few more words to look up, sweetie...but I've got shit to do. Buh-bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:09 PM
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BAAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, right. I TOTALLY believe that, "counselor." ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 10:08 PM
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So, you believe couverture was never taken literally? It's only a "legal fiction?" Let me guess, you also believe the Holocaust never happened and the U.S. moon landing was actually just recorded in a Hollywood movie studio. Ok. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:12 PM
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So, yes, you did have to look it up. And went with the first definition you found. Fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 09:03 PM
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It's the role he chose
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:03 PM
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Your intellectual fortitude is as good as an average asthmatic kid's ultra marathon times. This doesn't even make sense. Admit it, you had to look up fortitude, didn't you? Lol! In the context of my comment it means strength, not endurance. Yes, men were locked in their roles. As were women. It just so happens mens' roles included the legal ability to treat women as property. Women did not have that luxury in the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 07:02 PM
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Bluepill always gets the girl; just like in real life Of course I expect people to take me seriously. It's the truth. I mean, honestly, if redpillers got the girl, they wouldn't be on redpill, now, would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 06:55 PM
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Yes. And, if you buy into TRP, that's exactly where he belongs. The "disposability of men" and all that jazz. Thing is, Jack got to know the love, admiration, and respect of a beautiful woman. The redpill character never did. Life imitates art, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 06:53 PM
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You're missing the point. It "works" because it's nothing but a regurgitation of age-old, well-proven tactics that work. And women know exactly what they want. That's why men are sexually unsuccessful, they don't meet the criteria of what women want. Lose weight, have some self-respect...you will be more successful. That's how it is. And it has nothing to do with the hate spewing from redpill. It's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:15 PM
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been lied to his whole life Oh no! Did someone finally tell you there's no Santa Claus? Seriously, we are ALL (men and women) coddled and told half-truths as children. Most of us grow up, realize this, and manage to find loving partners without blaming the opposite sex for our own shortcomings. TRP advice, at its core, is nothing more than old, trite, and well accepted common-sense advice, with a twist of misogyny thrown in to soothe the egos of sexually unsuccessful men. That's it. That's liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:43 PM
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So, my initial presumption regarding your intellectual fortitude was correct. Therefore, my only response can be: you're right. Women have always been the dominant class. We have single-handedly sent only men to war; economically enslaved them and required them, by law, to be dependent upon only our wages; denied them the right to an education (can't have those men gettin' all uppity and learnin' to figger things out on their own); and systematically denied them their reproductive rights or sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 01:35 PM
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What blues say is profoundly mundane and rarely brings a new point of view to the table. What exactly does redpill bring to the table that's "new?" It's just a rage-induced parroting of old concepts: "be attractive" and "don't be a doormat." That is truly what it boils down to, and it's nothing "new."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:16 PM
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Surely you realize that "try to be more attractive" is advice you can find anywhere? It's advice that pre-dates the redpill by decades so it is NOT "redpill advice." And, yes, this advice works, that's why it's been around for centuries. But acting on this common-sense advice that's been around forever, having some success, then erroneously attributing that success to redpill is why, I suspect, redpill is still around. You're giving them credit where no credit is due.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 12:07 PM
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To be honest, seeing your response to the OP, I was under the impression I had to keep it simple. Your response to the OPs statement that women were viewed as an underclass was essentially "ummm...men were slaves, too!!" Which gives the impression of one perhaps 'less gifted' in the brains department. I apologize if my presumption was incorrect. For the purposes of this discussion 'class' is defined as a number of persons regarded as forming a group by reason of common attributes, characteristic…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 11:57 AM
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TRP thoughts come from somewhere Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:50 AM
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Women were unified as a 'class' by their gender alone. A man might have been a slave, or the property of another man, but he did not suffer that status just because he was a man. Women did. Their gender alone (separate from their socio-economic status) marked them as chattel in the eyes of men. Here's a brief history lesson: Women as chattel in English Common Law Women as property-as perpetuated by the Bible Women as property in Islam Women had limited autonomy while single in the early American…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/15 02:46 AM
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'50 Shades of Gray' is proof positive You realize that's fiction right? Escapist fantasy? Seriously, that's like me watching a guy get pegged in a porn movie, then loudly yelling from the rooftops "See, girls, it's TRUE!! All men are secretly butt-pirates!! Let's strap 'em on and get to pegging!! They all WANT it!" And I'm talking about slut-shaming specifically from TRP. The reason they do it is absolutely and unequivocally for the reasons I stated. You may try to hamster some rational for it (…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 01:45 PM
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TRP is irrelevant. It only exists, with any success, on the internet. Even the redpillers themselves have had posts about "don't talk about redpill IRL" because they know it has no legitimacy outside the echo chamber. Even on Reddit itself, just about any time a redpiller starts spewing his "philosophy" on a thread outside TRP, he gets mocked and ridiculed. And "slut-shaming" is just an attempt to control womens' sexuality. It only has power when women "allow" it to have power; and fewer and few…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 11:57 AM
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There is no opposition, only mockery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 08:58 PM
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My opinion probably is skewed, given my introduction to it. If I'd found it on my own, I'd probably just feel pity. The truth is what it is. And everyone's truth can be different. Thats why an all-encompassing 'instruction manual' seems ludicrous. But, you know, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 06:46 PM
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Meh. They were laughing at all the impotent rage and the childish idea that there's some sort of magical instruction manual to "getting" women. The overwhelming majority of men don't have a problem in that department. Edit: oh! And the ridiculously fictionalized "field reports." They thought those were fucking hysterical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:39 PM
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Lol, nice try. We were at a friend's BBQ. I was returning from the restroom and walked by the homeowner's office. A group of guys (having no idea I was there) were laughing loudly, standing around the computer. Being the nosy person I am, I asked what was so funny...and that's how I found out the redpill existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 03:39 PM
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Actually, IME So I was right. Damn, that's funny. I was just spit-balling...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 03:33 PM
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Yeah, well. You have no idea how many lives I've seen ruined by violent men who tried to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 09:12 PM
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1) The instruction manual exists; that's all that needs to be said. It's very flattering ;) 2) Yes, you provide dick. Which means, unless you're a rapist (of course you're not), that you gave a woman EXACTLY what she wanted. She wanted to get laid, and you obliged. I bet she really didn't have to put much thought or effort in getting you to comply, either. 3) Women greatly influence all men. Like I said, even you alphas over on the redpill have put forth volumes of information on how to obtain o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 07:32 PM
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You do realize racism and sexism go hand-in-hand, right? I mean, they have to feel superior to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 07:06 PM
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Oh, I'm sure plenty agree with it. I just happen to know, for a fact, that there are some subscribed only for the purposes I've stated; and I don't believe they're the only ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 06:42 PM
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Keep in mind that many of those subscribers are probably alt accounts that just log in to point and laugh at the idiocy. I don't, but I have several (male) friends who do. I would bet most redpillers are those guys that got laughed at and bullied in school; well the cool kids still laugh at them, just not to their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 06:03 PM
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But of course! You've made us (women) the most powerful creatures on the planet. You've created an Internet forum, written blogs, and created websites and instruction manuals about nothing more than how to get OUR attention. We OWN you. You must allow us to bask in all the glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 05:57 PM
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I don't care that they can't help being short. I don't date them. I don't make fun of them or vilify them, but I'm not attracted to them. And sluts probably don't care. Or they wouldn't be sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 01:41 PM
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I think you were trying to say BP gets all upset when redpillers obsess about partner count. I'd argue that that is not true. We really couldn't care less (contrary to what you say). blue pill making such a big fuss about men needing to ignore sexual partner count What we rail against is the slut shaming that goes hand in hand with their "preferences." It's perfectly fine to not want a partner with a high count (for both women and men). But don't vilify people who don't share your beliefs. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 01:19 AM
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I've had this conversation here before. No one cares if you don't want a slut. That's your prerogative. I don't date short or fat dudes. But I don't go around saying short fat dudes are the scum of the fucking earth or subhuman pieces of shit. That's the difference. Your free to have your preferences. And sluts are free to not give a damn about those preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 11:48 PM
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Your attempt to shut down a conversation simply by saying "that's not what redpill cares about" has no place here. This sub is for discussion about both sides. Don't like it; leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 05:15 PM
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Men experiencing indifference from women is kinda default Not really. Just redpill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:23 AM
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Yup. "Play hard to get" --men love it. And it pre-dates TRP by decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:04 AM
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You're not on TRP's sub. If you only want to discuss TRP, stay there and don't bother commenting on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/15 11:02 AM
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It's illogical and indicative of a myopic worldview. Men are generally just as turned on by indifference as women. It's not a hard generalization to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 11:57 PM
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But it's ok to generalize what women find attractive? Because Yea... but not to the same degree. Sounds like you're making a baseless assumption about what you think women are generally attracted to. Women are/aren't attracted to indifference any more/less than men are. That is the only fair generalization that can be logically made on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:56 PM
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How do you know it's not to the same degree? You can't possibly presume to say what what all men find attractive, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 09:17 PM
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Women do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:58 PM
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Meh. Men are attracted to indifference, too. It's not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:56 PM
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You're right. Women are in control of everything. We rule it all and just point and laugh at all you fucking whiny ass children behind your backs. Good luck in your endeavors to find a woman to babysit..errr date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 08:54 PM
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No one was talking about 'you' personally. It's the general 'you' as in 'you men.' I have absolutely no desire to discuss your personal situation. Entitlement is thinking you deserve something when in actuality you don't. You deserve nothing, you've earned nothing, you're owed nothing. So stop whining when you don't get it (women's attention, time, or empathy). Again, 'you' as in redpillers, blackpillers, whatever pillers. I wasn't talking about PUA techniques, I was referring to the redpill for…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 02:24 PM
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You're perfect the way you are, don't change for anyone", "you're beautiful inside and out, never listen to anyone who can't appreciate you, and all kinds of comforting Sisterhood talk. See, this is where that juvenile sense of entitlement comes from. Why are women responsible for your sense of self-worth? Just because women are good at supporting each other doesn't mean they owe you support. We are NOT your mamas. And just curious--how many of these female-centric YouTube channels advocate for …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 11:27 PM
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Are you kidding me?? What if every woman who'd ever been abused, cheated on, raped, or abandoned started an Internet forum on strategies to chemically castrate every man they met? Would you be ok with that, or would it sicken and disgust you? Because, hey, they had bad experiences--their rage is justified. It doesn't matter why they feel like they do. Some people are shitty. Everyone gets fucked over at times in their life. EVERYONE. But these redpill boys think a few unfortunate experiences giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 10:58 PM
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I am getting really fucking sick of terpers going on and on how women are subhuman pieces shit only good for one thing.... And then having the the fucking gall --THE FUCKING GALL--to whine and cry about not getting getting sympathy from women. You want empathy and compassion? Grow the fuck up and treat women like godddamn human beings. Women aren't "out to get you" and we don't owe you a goddamn thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 01:19 PM
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It's the only one for you. Or you can just continue wallowing in the childish hatred born of your own self-loathing. Or whatevs...I don't really give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:24 PM
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How they treat him has nothing to do with it. He despises women but believes he's still deserving of "the pussy." That's childish, whiny entitlement. "You're a subhuman piece of meat, bitch, and you fucking disgust me.....why don't you loooove me?" I certainly hope MGTOW becomes immensely popular...as I said before, anything to keep them out of the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 06:20 PM
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You're absolutely right. ALL women are conniving, backstabbing whores. You should go MGTOW. That's the only solution. The more entitled, whiny haters we can keep out of the gene pool, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/15 10:44 AM
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I can't think of anything to refute your position you big meany poopyhead....landwhale!! Take that!! Dude. LMAO! That's precious. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 06:09 PM
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In fact, the law allows us to socially enforce gender roles if we want to. You're the one who said it. What law are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 06:05 PM
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Yes, you are insignificant. At least you should be and there's progress in that arena. Who cares if you don't want to commit to a slut? Don't. Here's the full quote. Reading comprehension is not you strong suit, I presume. I was saying you are irrelevant and as society progresses you most certainly will be. Fewer and fewer women care, or will care, about your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 05:59 PM
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Awww....how sweet. A twerp going off on a hysterical mangry little rant. All that seething, burning, impotent rage! Delicious! Such stoicism. Your amused mastery is slipping sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 05:49 PM
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This whole topic is about tearing down traditional gender roles. We can, and have, as a society enforced them in the past but they're dying away. It's old hat now. I'll repeat my question (because I'm honestly curious)...what law, specifically, allows us to enforce gender roles? I mean statute. Cite the statute to which you're referring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 05:30 PM
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Nope. Please copy & paste where I said that I, or anyone, should care about your opinion. I've repeatedly stated your free to have and express that opinion. I'm saying it shouldn't matter, and over the course of time, it won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 05:26 PM
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Oh, trust me, you've been fooled, alright. Very insightful. Isn't one of TRPs main tenets that women are freer now more than ever before to explore sexuality (I think your moronic jargon calls it the 'cock carousel') It's happening, you've noticed it, and even adorably coined a term for it. More and more women are denying men the power to dictate their sex lives. It's glorious. And there's not a single, solitary damn thing you can do about it! Well, except complain on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 05:18 PM
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You don't seem to want to accept what I'm saying. You can think she's a skank...who cares? Your opinion is, and should be, completely irrelevant. Women can, and do, have sex with whomever they choose and your thoughts (anybody' thoughts, really) on the matter are utterly inconsequential.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 05:07 PM
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No, I believe it's you who may be confused. The law guarantees us the right to make our own life choices. Statute can't legally force me (or you) to marry and have kids. You can't legally deny me the right to pursue a degree or a career. I (and you) get to choose. We may be subject to cultural expectations, but they shouldn't have the power to restrict our choices. What law, specifically, allows us to socially enforce gender roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:55 PM
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Lol. I don't think he was saying any of that but I'll bite. I don't think redefining cultural norms means an imminent descent into societal chaos. It may make those who benefit from the current power structure feel threatened and insecure about their place in society (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), but it's inevitable and necessary if progress is to occur.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:46 PM
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Wrong. I couldn't care less what your preferences are. You're free to have them. What I'm saying is your preferences don't get to define or dictate female sexuality. Your preferences are insignificant, irrelevant, and powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:35 PM
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.....ring a bell?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:24 PM
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You don't think people should have the right to make their own life choices? Geez, where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:09 PM
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which said sluts want to associate with, after their post-slut-reformation. Source? And no, neither anecdotal evidence nor anything in the redpill sidebar counts as a source. I'll be waiting for the data.....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:07 PM
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Again, I'll repeat the question...how EXACTLY are you not being allowed to live your life the way you want? I specifically told you--if you don't want a slut, don't sleep with one. That's your choice and you're absolutely free to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 04:02 PM
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That will never happen. There will always be rational, mentally stable, well adjusted men out there who don't let their own sexual insecurities dictate their choice in partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:53 PM
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Wtf is "restricting male choice to create more female opportunities"? A woman has the God-given right to be a slut. She also has the right to NOT be a slut. You don't have to choose the former as a partner (I doubt she'd want you anyway given your prejudices), so how are you not getting to "exercise your rights?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:47 PM
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Change takes time. Especially society-wide changes. There are FAR fewer women who care now than 50 years ago. It will hopefully keep progressing to the point where it's absolutely powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:39 PM
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Yes, you are insignificant. At least you should be and there's progress in that arena. Who cares if you don't want to commit to a slut? Don't. Feminism isn't trying to deny men the right (ha! the "right") to label women as sluts, they're just making it irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:31 PM
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Where does what come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:22 PM
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You're free to "judge" whomever you choose however you choose. You can "judge" a woman as a slut, but if she's got two brain cells to rub together, why the fuck should she care? You (the general 'you') are insignificant. That's what feminism is...women shouldnt give a damn what men (or other women) say about their own life choices. Wanna have sex with hundreds of dudes? Go for it if that makes you happy. Wanna save yourself for marriage? Do it! It's your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 03:21 PM
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Men that act dominant and object the moral values of society at large become ostracized. It's a form of natural selection. They become ostracized and will eventually be bred out of existence because they can't propogate their genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 11:49 AM
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That means I can do whatever I want, right? Yup. And so can everyone else. The whole point of eradicating socially enforced gender or cultural roles is that everyone has the right to choose how to live their own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 11:37 AM
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Comic relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/15 04:37 PM
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Meh. BP doesn't put a lot of effort into refuting RP here because it's akin to arguing with a flat-earther, a creationist, or someone who believes in wood fairies. For a theory to be refuted (or even rationally discussed) it has to have a basis in objective, quantifiable fact. RP is just a bunch of desperate, hysterical men who think their own anecdotal evidence "proves" something about the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 09:19 PM
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I'm not shallow! Well, maybe...a little. And rape is not a consensual hookup--so it's outside the boundaries of this discussion. The terpers are constantly crowing and harping how they just "speak the hard cold truth" without regard to the sensitivities of rational, well-adjusted people. I'm just returning the favor. They should thank me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:23 PM
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It only happens with any regularity in the movies and on TV. Not in real life; except in very, very rare (but highly publicized) instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 06:19 PM
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Boredom, maybe? I dunno, I've never seen a 3 hook up with anything higher. Of either gender. People usually hook up with partners that are equally attractive/unattractive as themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:47 PM
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You banged a nine... Yeah, uh huh. That happened. The above is a statement normally used to express disbelief. Did you miss that part?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:44 PM
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If you're a 9, you wouldn't have had to turn to redpill ideology to get laid. Hence, you're not a 9. What so confuse you make 'bout that? Very simple, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:33 PM
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Power and status all by themselves as a pussy magnet is male fantasy. You've bought into the Hollywood movie trope that ugly dudes can totally bang hot girls just by being popular/rich/whatever. It's a statistical anomaly if it happens, so not worth noting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:28 PM
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Yeah, uh huh. That happened. If you're a nine, you wouldn't need RP, dude. Luxuriate in your illusions...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:21 PM
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Truth hurts, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 05:07 PM
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That second pic...wow. Symmetrical features, pretty eyes, a gorgeous smile..and that jaw-line! Totally fuckable, even if he was dirt poor. I'm assuming he's smart...triple bonus for a wicked sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:49 PM
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Proof positive that status and achievement trumps all... Total bullshit. This is a male wish fulfillment fantasy akin to the Disney fairy princess fantasy for girls. That's why TRP is fucking delusional. If you're a 3; all you're gonna fuck is another 3 (or under). This dude has an attractive face and isn't a fucking fatty. Regardless of bank account, totally bangable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 04:43 PM
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No it's true. Undeniably, irrevocably true. That's why TRP is such a ridiculous farce. No matter how much you lift, how many pickup lines you memorize, or how much game you have, if you're short, have a small penis, or are butt fucking ugly, women don't want you. Ever. Deal with it. You boys want the cold, hard truth--there it is. TRP is just a bunch of snake oil salesmen cashing in on your insecurities and false hopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/15 11:00 PM
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