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1	The two Delaware women charged with stealing a MAGA hat from a child have had their charges upgraded to hate crimes Please point out where i said that. Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech at birth, how they choose to use it is their CHOICE. Not yours Well yeah but I can also say I don't respect or tolerate what they are saying. I can also pressure them to stop saying something by for example organizing protests and be well within my rights to do so. I dont really understand what you disagree with me on excactly. Like how are you going to force somebody to respect or tolerate an opinion But it is your ch…	/r/PussyPassDenied	09/09/20 12:23 AM
1	The two Delaware women charged with stealing a MAGA hat from a child have had their charges upgraded to hate crimes You then go on to say “I agree everyone has the right to freedom of speech to be tolerated and respected despite whether you disagree” I never said that last part lol i said i think everyone has a right to freedom of speech Just because I don't respect or tolerate your opinion does not mean I don't think you should have the right to say it	/r/PussyPassDenied	09/09/20 12:07 AM
1	The two Delaware women charged with stealing a MAGA hat from a child have had their charges upgraded to hate crimes No, if you re read my reply I simply said that those are not limiting categories, They are not limiting categories, therefore they can be charged with hate crime? Is that not what you were trying to say? But read my other reply turns out I was wrong there is legal basis for charging them with hate crimes because they limited the freedom of speech of another person, which can be a hate crime in Delaware. Do you agree that each individual person has the right to freedom of speech I agree everyone …	/r/PussyPassDenied	08/09/20 11:54 PM
1	The two Delaware women charged with stealing a MAGA hat from a child have had their charges upgraded to hate crimes Turns out I was wrong, there is legal basis for charging them with a hate crime in Delaware: "(a) Any person who commits, or attempts to commit, any crime as defined by the laws of this State, and who intentionally: (1) Commits said crime for the purpose of interfering with the victim's free exercise or enjoyment of any right, privilege or immunity protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, or commits said crime because the victim has exercised or enjoyed said rights; or…	/r/PussyPassDenied	08/09/20 11:47 PM
1	The two Delaware women charged with stealing a MAGA hat from a child have had their charges upgraded to hate crimes Fine, but earlier you were arguing that there were legal basis for charging them with a hate crime	/r/PussyPassDenied	08/09/20 11:44 PM
2	The two Delaware women charged with stealing a MAGA hat from a child have had their charges upgraded to hate crimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime_laws_in_the_United_States Federal laws on hate crime cover: race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, and disability. Not political affiliation or ideology. The crime has to be specifically motivated by one of those factors to be charged as a hate crime. On state level however, it varies: "Each of these statutes covers bias on the basis of race, religion, and ethnicity; 34 states cover disability; 34 of them cove…	/r/PussyPassDenied	08/09/20 11:35 PM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself But it's the very thing that we're arguing about! nooo because equality is so much more than just being 50% of the workforce. I have no idea what you're talking about. When did you ever mention social science? dude we are talking social science right now saying that you want to aim for 50% outcome. i never said that i said us moving closer to it can be a sign with the right fucking context that we are getting more equality of opportunity. this is important to me as i think we live in an unequal …	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 06:17 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Okay i give up. you just keep getting hung on these little numbers and things i say which are insignificant to my bigger point. Like i only answered the 47-50% cus you asked me. i even specifically said i dont care about it much cus its such a small issue and here you are trying to use that against me. You actually tried to use that to disprove that distribution of jobs are being discussed in social science what the fuck. earlier you try to spin me into absolute equality of outcome even though i…	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 06:04 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Yes. But I don't agree that getting closer to 50% today is a sign that we are getting closer to equality of opportunity. Right, so you agree that equality of outcome can be a sign of equality of opportunity in a certain context. However we fundamentally disagree on how much equality there is today. You seem to think we are closer to it than myself. Do you think going from 47% to 50% is a sign that we are getting closer to equality of opportunity? Sure why not, it's a minor difference so I don't …	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 03:41 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself I don't understand what you mean. That was just an example to demonstrate how equality of outcome can point to equality of opportunity. 100 years ago only 20% of women were working, and it's now 47%. Would you not agree that in historical context it is a sign that we are getting closer to equality of opportunity?	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 03:28 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself It was a hypotethical situation, and we are talking about job distribution	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 03:18 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself When I said more women in the workforce I meant more equal than having less women in the workforce. Sure it's not nescessarily equality of outcome just because 50% of the people who work are women, but it's certainly closer than if it was just 10%. Even in your example if only 10% of women are working, going from 85% of primary school teachers to 90% is still overall an increase in equality of outcome if those new workers wouldn't be working otherwise. Getting them into the workforce is the firs…	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 02:23 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Okay read closely. We live in a society where social constructs determine our choices. This means to me we do not have equality of opportunity. When we see a shift in a trend where women for example start becoming more active in the workforce etc., then we are moving closer to equality of outcome (this is not an opinion this is just true). I'm sure you would agree that one of the reasons more women are in work is because of more equality of opportunity. When we live in a society where social fac…	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 02:05 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Look dude i never argued for 50% of anything i said i want to get us closer with environmental factors playing a minimal role. Wtf are you talkinga bout 100% of women being firefighters i said nothing of the sort and obviously a situation where 100% of women are firefighters have to be discriminatory in someway just like the example where i said there were 100% male firefighters. i used that example because then you cant deny there is some discrimination involved For equality, you need to look a…	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 01:33 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Yeah, this isnt going anywhere	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 01:23 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Yes... Let's say there are literally no women who are firefighters, that obviously does not mean there are no women who are able to be firefighters. In this situation getting closer from 0% to 50% obviously means that women are being more allowed to make the choice and pursue the career of a firefighter. If discrimination is still one of the factor (biological can be another factor) which restricts women from becoming firefighters then we do not have equality of opportunity. See what I mean? In …	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 01:07 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Gynocentric bias Yes that is a term. Does not mean it is as impactful in our society as you think it is. Also I do not believe it is inherently bad for groups to focus on problems that belongs to certain people. Of course from my perspective females and males are not equally treated, so I think feminist groups furthering the interests of females is not a bad thing intrinsictly. The same way subs like this and other groups furthering mens rights is not a bad thing. The problem is of course when t…	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 12:57 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Yes it would, assuming the steps that take us there doesn't involve forcing women to become firefighters or force firefighters to hire women. Listen, I think it's hard to deny there is still a lot of discrimination and social indoctrination based on gender and other stuff. I went through this in another comment on this thread if you want to read it. When we live in a society which is rid of this, then we can talk about to which extent equality of outcome is a sign of equality of opportunity. Wou…	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 12:33 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself When did I contradict myself? I think I made it very clear that I do not believe that we live in a equal society as of now, therefore it is logical for me when we move closer to equality of outcome I see it as a sign we are getting closer to equality of opportunity. So getting closer to, say, 50% female Firefighters would be a sign of more equal opportunity, right? Yes it would, assuming the steps that take us there doesn't involve forcing women to become firefighters or force firefighters to hi…	/r/MensRights	07/05/19 12:23 AM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself I have already said I do not believe in absolute equality of outcome.	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 11:26 PM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself May not have been clear in my first comment but yes I want equality of opportunity, and I believe this will take us closer to equality of outcome. And as we get closer to equality of outcome I see this as a sign that we have more equality of opportunity.	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 11:15 PM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself I think we are so fundementally conflicted that it will be hard for us to agree on everything but I will give it a shot. Everybody already worships women The only context in which this can possibly be true is sexual. I do no think most modern women appreciate being looked at as a sex object. And in what way is this 'worship'? You think men rape women and sexually harass them for the womans sake? what privileges do men have? Let's start with something obvious and easily provable. Men have the pow…	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 10:46 PM
0	I couldn't have said it better myself I don't think you understand my viewpoint. From my perspective enviromental factors still play a big role in the way groups of people make different choices. I would like to see that reduced to as little as possible. I don't want absolute equality of outcome (that is really stupid and nobody believes that) but certainly closer to it than what we are today. Using your strength requiring job as an example I would argue a male dominated job which requires strength is more likely to attract a strong…	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 10:09 PM
1	I couldn't have said it better myself Absolutely, men and women should both be treated better. Women has certain priveliges men do not, and vice versa.	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 06:08 PM
0	I couldn't have said it better myself Of course not, I'm speaking in general not specifically about any job	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 03:06 PM
-5	I couldn't have said it better myself Me and many others on the left would argue equality of outcome is the result of equality of opportunity. I'm sure you would agree that historically we have been in a very unequal society when it comes to race, sex and other things. I do not believe the society we live in today is 'equal'. What I mean by this is not that there are specific laws preventing people from going into these fields or getting these jobs, but that the way society and the people in it treat people is still dependent on you…	/r/MensRights	06/05/19 05:00 AM
0	Harvard Study: "Gender Pay Gap" Explained Entirely by Work Choices of Men and Women I don't argue for that, I argue for equality of opportunity (the more equal opportunities we have the more equal we seem to be). Historically we have done a lot of progress the last 50-60 years, I see no reason why we should be satisfied where we are now. I would argue we are influencing people a lot more today than what is ideal	/r/MensRights	03/04/19 07:56 PM
0	Harvard Study: "Gender Pay Gap" Explained Entirely by Work Choices of Men and Women Well that's your opinion, and I disagree	/r/MensRights	03/04/19 07:32 PM
-1	Harvard Study: "Gender Pay Gap" Explained Entirely by Work Choices of Men and Women Well, it might be hard to understand, but a lot of educated people believe that when you grow up in a society you get affected by the people around you. So when you are a woman you get raised differently than from a man, and people generally treat you differently. This is a problem that isdeeply rooted in our modern society, therefore they are hard to tackle and figure out what to do about them. You could do nothing, and just let it sort itself out, or you could take active steps to close the ga…	/r/MensRights	03/04/19 06:23 PM
-1	Harvard Study: "Gender Pay Gap" Explained Entirely by Work Choices of Men and Women Ok, but it's not, nobody who seriously study this defines it like that.	/r/MensRights	03/04/19 06:16 PM
-6	Harvard Study: "Gender Pay Gap" Explained Entirely by Work Choices of Men and Women Not sure excactly what you mean by "is assumed to be for equal pay". The gender paygap is defined as the difference between what working men and women earn. Nothing more, nothing less. Perhaps we should take nurses and force them to work on oil rigs where the pay is more. This has nothing to do with anything, and is certainly not what anyone is advocating for. When certain groups of people make certain choices it might be beneficial to understand why, instead of just being satisfied with the con…	/r/MensRights	03/04/19 06:13 PM
-14	Harvard Study: "Gender Pay Gap" Explained Entirely by Work Choices of Men and Women Stop saying the paygap doesn't exist. It does. Sure, it's not because business owners choose to pay women less, but it exists. It exists because as of today women "choose" to get less paid. The real questions are: why do they do this? And: what should we do about it?	/r/MensRights	03/04/19 05:45 PM
-1	Indian men can be pretty brutally honest sometimes IDK about mainstream feminists, just my experience speaking to feminists I know, they're all for equality. If feminism was ONLY about equality and nothing else it would be an unnecessary label. Not true. You can't fix society in one step. Feminists are concerned with female problems, which can be different from male problems.	/r/PussyPassDenied	30/08/17 02:28 PM
-1	Indian men can be pretty brutally honest sometimes According to who? It's not like all feminists have the same belief Basically anywhere except the internet feminism is about equality.	/r/PussyPassDenied	30/08/17 02:03 PM