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| 1 | Apparently a VAP is a legal document that means you give up your right to a paternity test. How is this legal? (x-post from /self)How about, if DNA says not my child, I'm not legally responsible, regardless of how much time has elapsed. Sure, I agree with that. From what I understand, a VAP can be rescinded based on DNA evidence even after the sixty day period. It might be different in different states, but I certainly agree that a VAP should be removable in the future if new evidence warrants it. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Apparently a VAP is a legal document that means you give up your right to a paternity test. How is this legal? (x-post from /self)Again, all men will have to sign if it they want to continue their relationship with their partner. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a woman who would only stay with me if I signed a document saying I was her child's father (without any testing). People should be free to put whatever ridiculous restrictions on their relationships they want. And other people should be free to respond by not being in an over-restricted relationship. If a woman says she'll break up with you for not sign… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Apparently a VAP is a legal document that means you give up your right to a paternity test. How is this legal? (x-post from /self)If you are married, the child is presumed to be yours. And according to what you posted, even DNA testing will not change that. If you are not married, a VAP is used instead, and it is completely voluntary. If you don't believe you are the father, you don't have to sign it. So you aren't stuck taking care of some other guy's kid. And it looks like erroneous VAPs are much easier to get rid of down the road than the effects of "marital presumption". | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Apparently a VAP is a legal document that means you give up your right to a paternity test. How is this legal? (x-post from /self)I agree that is a serious problem. But it's a different situation. VAP's are for people who are not married. EDIT: Clarified | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 05:00 PM |
| 3 | Apparently a VAP is a legal document that means you give up your right to a paternity test. How is this legal? (x-post from /self)I think the general idea is that you shouldn't sign it if you aren't sure. You're really only supposed to sign it if you know you're the father and are willing to accept responsibility for the child. If you end up finding out that you were lied to later on, you can get a test done and go to court to have the VAP rescinded. I am not sure how complicated the court situation is though. I would hope that a paternity test would be sufficient evidence. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 04:46 PM |
| 5 | Apparently a VAP is a legal document that means you give up your right to a paternity test. How is this legal? (x-post from /self)I don't think that is correct. I am fairly sure that it just removes the need for a paternity test. If both parents sign it, they both recognize who the biological father is without having to go to court and do tests. You could still go pay for tests yourself later on if you want. And you can rescind the document within sixty days if you change your mind. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 04:00 PM |
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