WarbleDarble Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Because the general sentiment among women is to not do the simplest and most effective method to deal with the issue. I'm talking about the US because that's where I live. You're literally on a debate sub. I am having a debate with someone who I assumed was also here to debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 06:11 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Honestly did expect to change your mind. I don't think you care about the issue at all, but I will continue arguing for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 05:54 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child ou don't have to, but the conclusion is that you are treating your partner as unfaithful. That's the truth of it. That's the truth you are demanding. I see myself as flawed because we all are. I CAN BE WRONG. I have no reason to be wrong about parenthood. It's also insulting that you call being positive your child is yours "neuroticism". You go on to call it paranoia when we both know it is a thing that happens. Also acting like getting a court to remove parental responsibility is a solution is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 05:23 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child This is something you should talk about with someone before you have children. The general sentiment among women is along your line of thought. I am engaging with you to try to address the issue, which is that you believe you have no societal responsibility to reduce other women abusing men. I doubt you have that same sentiment for men's responsibility to reduce the rate that men abuse women. You also don't actually have to do anything to help in this case. It doesn't take your involvement at al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 05:08 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child All I can do is not add any men to that percentage and I wouldn’t. You can not punish men for taking a reasonable precaution when taking on the most important job they will ever have. The problem is that it's not just you, it's the majority of women who feel the same as you. You agree there is a societal problem, but your solution is "suck it up". Your view that it is a personal affront to you is common, and it is helping to cause a real problem. The general consensus is that any man that does t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/25 02:36 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Is it at all problematic to you that around 2% of fathers are unwittingly raising children that are not their own? Is it at all possible to do anything about it if you do consider it a problem? What should we as a society find acceptable to mitigate that risk? I say making it socially acceptable to get that test is harmless to all involved. You say men just need to suck it up. There is no reason why a simple test to confirm fatherhood should not be commonplace. You make that impossible because a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 09:06 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child And most women acting like you is one of the reasons that paternity fraud is a problem. There is a societal problem, but doing anything about it makes men the bad guy to most women. Keep men in the dark, it's better for your pride.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:43 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Because we're committing to the most important thing we will ever do with our lives. Far more important than you. You get to have certainty, you demand that he has faith.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:35 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Just don’t deny the obvious and don’t assume that the woman will want to continue a relationship with you afterwards. This is the part that I have an issue with. You demand uncertainty that you do not have to your partner. Your pride is preventing peace of mind. You also ignored what I wrote. I as a man am fallible. My trust can be misplaced. That is just a truism. You can't get around the fact that that is the literal truth. I have no need to have faith when it comes to being a dad. I can have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:33 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child They are the ones who gave birth, that is their child. That is not at all the same for a man. It is genuinely befuddling how you think there is at all an equivalent scenario here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:27 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child You've repeatedly said he can be sure. Now you say he just has to deal with not being sure because... reasons. And most woman would not at all be okay with 99% knowledge that their child is theirs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:22 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child So now you do acknowledge that men can't be certain. You were arguing the other way this whole time. Were those bad faith arguments or have you changed your mind? You withhold certainty based on pride.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:16 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Okay, just bad faith arguments the whole way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:08 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child With a $100 test he can have knowledge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:03 PM
2	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Because the possibility exists. You can stick your head in the sand all you want, but we know it happens, we know it happens to completely unsuspecting guys with wives they never even considered would cheat. I am saying I am not better than those men. I know I'm not; no other man is either. There is inherent uncertainty that you do not have. You demand that men live with that uncertainty for your pride, that's selfish.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 07:02 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child By knowing she hasn't fucked anyone else. How? Are men supposed to follow their partners at all times to make sure? Otherwise, you are again talking about faith, I have faith that you may understand the difference between knowledge and faith, but I certainly don't have that knowledge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:59 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child You can be 100% certain by trusting that the woman you want to impregnate isn't fucking someone else. THIS IS TRUST AND FAITH. I am asking how he can KNOW. Those are different. You have to be able to understand they are different. I am asking you how he can KNOW, not BELIEVE.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:55 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child And only he has to keep the faith in this scenario. You get to have certainty that your child is yours, but it is somehow unethical for him to get that same certainty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:53 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child So now you're just ditching your argument and changing the subject. Again, how can a man be 100% certain a child is his without a test?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:51 PM
0	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Being certain about parenthood is about far more than whether she cheated. "I trust my wife, but I recognize my own fallibility, so I am trusting the most important thing I do in my life to something less fallible than myself". The only thing taking that certainty away from the father is the mother's pride.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:49 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Do you understand the difference between knowledge and faith? I asked how he can be certain. You said he should have faith. You understand those are not the same thing, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:44 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Men are fooled into raising children that are not theirs. You know, the basis for the whole topic we're on. Seriously, tell me the mechanics of how a man becomes 100% sure without a test. Not believe it's his child, not be confident it's his child, but 100% certain. Tell me how a person should go about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:35 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Because it happens. Because a man cannot know with certainty that it did not happen. Seriously, what is confusing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:32 PM
3	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child This makes no sense. A woman has no control over if her partner abuses her and is not at fault for entering a relationship with him (I think we will both agree here). A man has no control over the actions of his partner, but your solution is to find better partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:30 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child We can acknowledge there is general trust, but when committing to raising a child a little piece of mind hurts nobody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:27 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child I genuinely don't know how you can ask that. How would he be sure?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:24 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Because as a man he is literally unable to be 100% sure the kid is his without a test. Again, this isn't a hard concept.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:20 PM
3	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child When you give birth you're totally okay with the hospital just giving you a random baby? Right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:18 PM
0	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Can men acknowledge that their faith is fallible? We know men get it wrong all the time, why are we expected to be better than the average person?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:16 PM
0	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Are you committing right now to spend the rest of your life raising and educating my drugs, to provide house and home, to be a loving parental figure? It's about the child, not you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:15 PM
2	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child I think it's wrong to hold that certainty from a man with the threat of blowing up his family. You can never be 100% certain your kid is yours because of her pride? That's a good result?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:08 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child So what is your argument? Your acting like it's weird to be sure your kid is yours.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:07 PM
2	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child A small percentage of woman do a thing that is devastating to their partners. We know it happens, but it is offensive to do anything to protect yourself from it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:06 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Don't get why men are getting with women they think would need a paternity test in the first place, if you do this you're part of the problem. Stop hitting up bops lol People have consistently proven to be shit judges of character. Why do you believe men should be better than the average person?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:03 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Your argument is that people genuinely don't care if their child is actually theirs? This isn't a difficult concept.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:02 PM
2	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child You are unique among us lowly humans in that you are a perfect judge of character?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 06:00 PM
3	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Why should something as important as parenthood be left to faith (which we as humans are consistently wrong about), when certainty is cheap and easy? I can have faith in my partner and still accept my own fallibility. I could be 99.99% certain, but I can be wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 05:58 PM
0	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child We have proven, both men and woman, for 200,000 years that we are not very good at that. Do you say that to abused women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 05:54 PM
1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Or the husband wants to be 100% sure that the child is his. That is a possibility now with a simple cheap test. Why demand faith when certainty is cheap and easy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 05:51 PM
-1	Unless you do a paternity test you can only ever be about 90% sure that you actually fathered a child Just devils advocate here. If the rate of paternity fraud is around 2%, that means there are about 76,000 cases per year. Assuming the fathers in this scenario are covering half the cost of raising these kids that makes paternal fraud a 14.8 billion dollar per year fraud industry. That is larger than most other fraud industries combined yet it is considered offensive to do anything about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/25 05:49 PM