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| 2 | How does the Alpha handle Competition? [FR/advice?]YES. This is exactly the advice I was looking for. Thank you so much for the insight. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/03/16 02:16 AM |
| 1 | How does the Alpha handle Competition? [FR/advice?]Lol, it wouldn't hurt to read the content of the post. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/03/16 09:04 PM |
| 1 | How does the Alpha handle Competition? [FR/advice?]You and Spartan are both somewhat off target. I'm referring to in this scenario, a guy was talking to her while I was away, not simply making eye contact. Essentially what I did is not even acknowledge his existence/worth. Which in retrospect, could have gone worse if he decided to get confrontational | /r/TheRedPill | 23/03/16 08:51 PM |
| 3 | How does the Alpha handle Competition? [FR/advice?]I don't even understand how that applies to this situation. She's talking to some dudes while I'm talking to some girls, and then when I wanted to leave, I didn't wait for her to finish, or try to interrupt, I simply grabbed her and went. Idk that seemed like the most logical course of action at the time | /r/TheRedPill | 23/03/16 08:50 PM |
| 1 | How does the Alpha handle Competition? [FR/advice?]I didn't panic, I was simply done with my interaction and wanted to proceed to the next venue, so I simply grabbed her and went. Simply smiling wouldn't have gotten her to walk with me. I thought she laughed/giggled simply because of the absurdity of me literally grabbing her while in the middle of a conversation and walking like it didn't matter | /r/TheRedPill | 23/03/16 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Plausible Deniability - Let her have her storyBut my question is this: as enlightened makes, we enjoy having deep, meaningful conversations from time to time. I'm aware that in the initial meet n greet (I.e: first date) you wanna be that fun guy who reveals only bits and pieces but not much else. At which point can you bust out a little depth to your conversation? I'm not talking about the soulless Cc riders, I'm referring to women that one would want to plate/see regularly | /r/TheRedPill | 17/03/16 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Do I condition a girl to say things I want to hear?It's not that I need the validation, just that if given the choice between having a girl who gushes over me vs one who's not that vocal about her attraction to me. That said, how do I condition her to worship my body? Do I simply state that's something I enjoy? | /r/askTRP | 17/01/16 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Do I condition a girl to say things I want to hear?I do some dominant stuff like choking, packing, hair pulling. My dick game is decent but I seem to have trouble lasting past 10-15 minutes . Got any suggestions on how I can up the dominance? The only dirty talk I've done has been stuff in reference to how wet/tight her pussy is | /r/askTRP | 17/01/16 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Going somewhere out of your element requires a different kind of Game [FR]Yeah this is that same girl. From your other post, its pretty clear you were either "just her type" or she is into kind of goofy but genuine guys. In more Red Pill terms, she liked you for some of your beta bucks qualities. She didn't see you as that hardened alpha who gave her insta-tingles, more so as that fun loving guy who can have a good time but is also a little safer. The fact that only one of her three friends really seemed to enjoy your presence also compounds the fact that she probably… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/12/15 11:22 PM |
| 7 | Tinder game proxy hackI second that. Screenshots plz | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/15 02:45 AM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]What do you get in return if you go exclusive? What do you miss out on? What do you put at risk? Ask yourself that if she starts talking about exclusivity. These are all very good questions to ask myself. From my perspective, based on what I've seen thus far, I stand to gain far more than I'd lose. But then again I haven't even heard from her all day so it's very possible that this could be a ONS sorta thing Don't let her change your own plans and your own life for what came cheap and easy and o… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/15 02:29 AM |
| 0 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]I've been spinning plates for a short while, currently have 3 in rotation. But I'm sick of them primarily because they don't have much to offer, whereas this one, I actually enjoyed my time with her both before and after sex. Something that I can't say about any of the 3 plates. And my current job doesn't allow me to have much free time to go out, meet people, etc. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/15 12:16 AM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]So can you list the red flags? And a brief explanation? Bookish question, but my male hamster is finding reasons to overlook them. Even if I didn't get laid I would overlook em | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/15 12:13 AM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]Yeah I guess my idea of plating her is to keep her at top plate at says, potentially agree to be exclusive if that's what she wants (again b/c my perception of her SMV is high) but I'm only around this city till mid 2017 so it would end then obviously | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 10:29 PM |
| 0 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]We'd be idiots to turn those into girlfriends, if we bothered having exclusivity with women who (it turns out) don't even demand exclusivity when it comes to sex and social company. But from my understanding what I've been reading in comments etc, isn't it that we upgrade women from plate ->top plate-> gf based on not just her offering sex but also if she has other qualities that distinguish her? I'm not talking about marrying this girl, because of my position in life I know I'll likely be movin… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 10:28 PM |
| 2 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]So I have a hard time believing she was necessarily lining up her next fuck, rather that she was simply doing it to imitate me/build dread. But this could very easily be male hamstring so fuck my opinion. Again, in terms of women that I'VE met, she definitely is in the upper quartile, so wouldn't that alone merit consideration? | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 08:26 PM |
| 2 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]So you're saying that post-TRP, none of your girlfriends have ever put out on the first date? Or are you saying that you're simply unaware that they have? Or is this some idealized advice? Yeah, I'm very ambivalent about dating a tinder girl too, but this one has a stable job, good social circle, and shit tests very rarely. clearly not a unicorn, but I think it merits consideration. But obviously she'd have to start off as a plate. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 07:40 PM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]You make a good point, I definitely need to work on my internal frame, as there's no reason I should be shaming myself about this. And yes I do need to bang another one asap, as I'm already noticing that I'm catching oneitis and this girl is flooding my thoughts - partly due to the fact that in my opinion, she truly is a catch. But this scarcity mentality is a terrible thing. When you first started doing this, what pointer/single move did you consistently use to make yourself comfortable ? | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 05:48 PM |
| 4 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]Sooo do you have any meaningful feedback or do you just feel the need to insult me without proposing a solution for my betterment as a man by giving a concrete example as to how you would've handled the situation? | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 05:43 PM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]So, as someone who's gotten a fool's mate, any advice for me? I completely agree that I think she can be a premo plate. She's into a lot of the same kinks that I am. I fucked her solid last night, but then I was having boner troubles this morning - I think partly due to anxiety, partly due to me not knowing my turn ons | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 04:38 PM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]For that situation what you did wasn't horrible. The key is delivery. If you do it in an amused mastery sense, from the frame of "alright, dinners done, let's do this" kind of mentality, where you are overtly acknowledging the natural progression of the date, she will be turned on and impressed by that. If you awkwardly stumble over the conversation simply because you don't know what your next move is, she will pick up on that. This is exactly what I needed to hear, when in doubt just default to… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 04:35 PM |
| 2 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]You're right, I was using the kiss as a barometer, which I really shouldn't have been doing if she was being receptive to kino, eye contact, etc. So one thing I struggled with is when we grabbed dinner and ate at my place, I had no idea how to transition past that - I wasn't sure if I should pop on a movie, or how exactly to get her to my bedroom without having kissed her At that point. I kinda just pulled the only card I had, which was directly address the situation. But I'm certain it could ha… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 03:59 PM |
| 3 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]So do you have any suggestions on kicking up the escalation? I understand that being new to picking up women at the ripe age of 23 isn't the best thing, as any sexual advance simply feels "weird" to me. So I'd really appreciate any tips or specific pointers for me to practice and/or build off of | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 03:55 PM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]She's a very wealthy girl, from a rich family, with a well paying job. I'm not too worried about that. And my building has a video camera on both entrances, so if something does happen to go missing, I'll have evidence | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 03:54 PM |
| 1 | I got laid last night, even though I didn't kiss her till she was in my bed [FR]I completely see where you're going with this, and yes, I'm an introvert, so I overthink a LOT of things. If this is two ships passing in the night, then I can leave it at that. But 1) I do want to see this chick again 2) I get the impression that she's not simply looking for a ONS Edit: In regards to this being a training session, do you have any insights/ways I can improve from this encounter? | /r/TheRedPill | 24/12/15 03:53 PM |
| 1 | The Middle Eastern Wars are a source of humour for white women now.I didn't see anything about sheikh Amin. In fact, in my research never even bright that name. I can't seem to find much convincing evidence that he's the majority leader. And you didn't skip that in anywhere. You mentioned that King Edward ruled Israel in a time that country didn't even exist. So will you respond to my comments about the Balfour declaration and Israel's various human rights violations, or are you going to continuously claim that to view Israel as an oppressive nation in violatio… | /r/TheRedPill | 19/12/15 12:15 AM |
| 1 | The Middle Eastern Wars are a source of humour for white women now.I'm done with your nonsense. You berate me for avoiding your question about a Palestinian leader, and come around completely avoiding my statement about the Balfour declaration AND you cite false information. Israel did not exist prior to 1947. Just go look at Wikipedia. But then again perhaps Wikipedia is also a feminine construct. Feminists also believe that the earth revolves around the sun and that Obama is president. Just because they believe that Israel is an oppressive country doesn't mea… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/12/15 11:30 PM |
| 1 | The Middle Eastern Wars are a source of humour for white women now.Lol you should go back and read my response in which I conceded that afghan Iraq and Iran are fucked up, but if you take a basic geography course, or maybe read the introduction to a textbook, you'll realize that there's more than 3 countries in the Middle East. Again, something I pointed out in my post. I still don't agree that those countries underwent 3500 consecutive years of war and turmoil, but that's not gonna be the focal point here. Are you saying that in order for a country to be an in… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/12/15 09:24 PM |
| 3 | The Middle Eastern Wars are a source of humour for white women now.I'd love to hear where you're getting all your information from. 3500 years of constant war? Guess it's a miracle I made it out of that hell hole without getting blown up. I mean it also depends on what u call the Middle East. Cause Palestine, for example, was an independent country that suddenly got carved out post WW2 into Israel with no regard for those currently living there. In fact, Israel is constantly expanding into Palestinian territory despite being condemned by the UN for it. It was t… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/12/15 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]I don't think I did anything particularly "right" I think it's simply a combination of me exceeding all her pre-qualifications (status, religion, race etc) AND I showed her some kindness/physical affection early on, that she just hamsters everything bad I did as me being 'too busy' or 'hurt from my ex' | /r/TheRedPill | 14/12/15 07:13 PM |
| 1 | A More In Depth Look At Shit Tests. Part 2.This encyclopedia is saved in my browser bookmarks, I wish there would be an addendum to it | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/15 03:14 PM |
| 6 | Setting up a date the right way.This x1000. I feel that perhaps these posts should include age of the poster and age of the girls he pursues. As a 23 year old, I've found that most women my age DONT like to talk on the phone with someone they just met, whereas I have a few 30+ year old friends (male and female) who prefer talking on the phone over texting | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/15 02:31 PM |
| 2 | "The Shit Test Buster Game: Round 1"Question 1:** ”Are you a player?” yeah, I'm really good at call of duty Question 2: ”Yeah, I bet you say that to all the girls..” Yeah, and the occasional cute guy too Question 3: ”What’s the matter? You look so sad.” You look so sad! Question 4: How many girls have you slept with?” No matter what I say, are you really gonna believe me? Question 5: ”Are you seeing anyone else?” I have eyes don't I? I see a lot of people Intermediate Question 6: ”Are you gay?” I'm not sure, I might be Question 7:… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]Well she would keep contacting me. Even now after sending her off, she's messaged me four or five times without me replying once. | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]Part of the reason I hard passed was AWALT, part of it because I fear a false-rape accusation, and also part of it from my own stupidity/human compassion. Clearly she isn't "in love" with me like I was foolishly starting to believe. But I felt bad that some dumb girl was getting attached to me. And again, I am more aware of her mental/emotional instability than I have taken the time to write on this thread (see; how I met your mother, crazy eyes). And all the meanwhile her home life is shit as h… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 07:23 PM |
| 0 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]Could you elaborate more on the PuA tactic of framing her choices? I kinda u sweat and the example you gave but this is a new concept for me so I'd appreciate it if you could flesh it out a bit more | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 05:22 PM |
| 3 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]So what exactly sounds BP? I'm 23, she's 22, but like I said, my position in school is a grad student, she is in her last semester of undergrad and going nowhere in life | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 05:21 PM |
| 4 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]The false rape accusation is a legitimate fear and part of the reason why I was glad to send this one off | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 05:19 PM |
| 7 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]The funny thing is, she actually told him all about how she pretended to me that he was gay. Deep down, the beta in me is a little infuriated that she would tell this other male all about how she intended to pull the wool over my head. It's almost enough to drag me back into the anger phase | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 02:58 PM |
| 3 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]Practice makes perfect I guess, hopefully I'll keep having experiences worth writing about, thanks! | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]Yes, I think one of my greatest learning points from this girl was the analogy of them being akin to children. This girl would throw tantrums any time I didn't comply, and thanks to TRP I simply ignored her and still got sex on demand. I also noticed it when she would be SO surprised that I didn't wanna be in a relationship with her, and thought that if she kept apologizing and saying please that would change my mind, like when she wants a new thousand dollar purse from daddy | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 02:37 PM |
| 3 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]From what I surmise of it, it basically is a look in her eyes when she sees your dick or when you ask certain things of her and you can CLEARLY see that it's not her first rodeo. But then again, I'm a newbie so I'm probably using the phrase wrong | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]In less than three seconds she invented the truth that actually, I DID have very strong feelings for her but I just couldn't get in touch with them because I'm too logical and pragmatic. If i just got in touch with my heart I'd be able to come to terms with my love for her and we could be together. LOL true story, a similar thing happened where she was saying I love her and won't admit it bla bla and I was on the verge of bursting out laughing in her face. Good point though, it's fascinating how… | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 02:30 PM |
| 8 | Told her we would never be anything, the act dropped IMMEDIATELY [FR]Well, I should clarify that this girl has been pushing for the relationship talk for a reallllyyy long time. It's been almost 12 weeks since our first encounter, and free maybe the 3rd meetup she's been pushing for it. I figured that give him how mentally unstable she is, I'd rather tell her straight up she can't have me rather than worry about her obsessing/stalking/false rape claims | /r/TheRedPill | 03/12/15 02:26 PM |
| 1 | A brief reminder of AWALT + an 'enlightened' social encounter, feedback appreciated [FR]If I take the time to see your shit in my inbox, why not let you know that you're not bringing any value on my FR It would be great if you could help me reflect on my experience, but at the very least, you're a reminder of how foolish it is when someone has nothing of substance to add to the conversation | /r/TheRedPill | 23/11/15 06:32 PM |
| 1 | A brief reminder of AWALT + an 'enlightened' social encounter, feedback appreciated [FR]LMAO. Let me make it abundantly clear for ya then. I could give a fuck about your insults. I'm annoyed that you're wasting space in my inbox without any meaningful feedback, and somehow you feel so entitled like I give a shit about your opinion. If you have no feedback/suggestions as to how I can implement TRP and improve myself, u think I give a shit? | /r/TheRedPill | 23/11/15 02:09 PM |
| 1 | A brief reminder of AWALT + an 'enlightened' social encounter, feedback appreciated [FR]Thanks for the meaningful feedback. Feel free to go post this same comment on a bunch of other threads, this is EXACTLY the kind of RP advice us noobies wanna here | /r/TheRedPill | 23/11/15 01:28 AM |
| 1 | A brief reminder of AWALT + an 'enlightened' social encounter, feedback appreciated [FR]Um, on a computer, and I'm not sure what your issue is with the formatting? Is it cause there's too much spacing? | /r/TheRedPill | 21/11/15 10:22 PM |
| 1 | A brief reminder of AWALT + an 'enlightened' social encounter, feedback appreciated [FR]Know me from adam? You're very correct in diagnosing that my inner game is disastrous. I've had confidence issues for a long time growing up, hence my struggles with coming into my own as a man now. I guess my goal right now is to try and be Machiavellian about everything, because unless these guys have been with me through thick and thin, I shouldn't view them as anything more than friends/acquaintances. Obviously I have multiple motivations for the things I do, but again, I'm trying to keep it… | /r/TheRedPill | 21/11/15 07:02 PM |
| 1 | A brief reminder of AWALT + an 'enlightened' social encounter, feedback appreciated [FR]Yeah sorry I'll fix the formatting when I get on a computer. Also, believe me or not, doesn't matter, I'm curious about the rest of the post, the 3 chicks thing is so insignificant idk why that's all you're harping on | /r/TheRedPill | 21/11/15 06:55 PM |
| 1 | [Request] being enlightened is not enough - how to avoid being basicThis is a great point, I definitely need to maintain my own sanctuary. But I also wanna pick up an activity or two that can be a pair-bonding experience, similar to going hiking together etc. something that would not only help me evaluate whether a plate is worthy of a status upgrade, but something that is in and of itself enjoyable to do. This feels so weird to be writing this out | /r/TheRedPill | 17/11/15 03:51 AM |
| 1 | [Request] being enlightened is not enough - how to avoid being basicSo I'm lookin for hobbies and skills to pick up. Things that as an adult in the dating world, I would enjoy doing. I used to spend a lot of time playing video games, and that's why I find my growth very stunted in the hobbies department. So if you have any suggestions about some hobby you yourself are passionate about or that you think I might enjoy, I'd love to hear it. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/11/15 03:49 AM |
| 1 | [Request] being enlightened is not enough - how to avoid being basicI think having hobbies that I'm enthusiastic about would in and of itself make me more attractive. But if you got a couple suggestions for each category I'm really curious to hear them | /r/TheRedPill | 16/11/15 12:08 AM |
| 1 | [Request] being enlightened is not enough - how to avoid being basicA few, but they're all so shallowly explored that I can just as easily dive into something totally new. Part of the reason why I'm posting is cause I'm wondering if there's any one or two things that becoming an expert in would not only be very beneficial, but also enjoyable. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/11/15 11:17 PM |
| 2 | [Request] being enlightened is not enough - how to avoid being basicThese are some great suggestions. I actually got my foid card and have gone shooting a couple times, I intend to sign up at a BJJ gym, and I am also learnin to play the saxophone. However, despite the fact that these are all things that are interesting to me, how would they fit into my "RP" lifestyle, and how would I bring a girl into all of this? Like if there's a girl I'm interested in, aside from taking her shooting, or maybe working out with her, what are some RP things to do with her? I'm j… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/11/15 10:12 PM |
| 6 | [Request] being enlightened is not enough - how to avoid being basicI'm kinda just asking what would YOU do if you were in my shoes? And what are some hobbies/activities that as a TRP man, you wish you had mastered in your twenties? | /r/TheRedPill | 15/11/15 08:56 PM |
| 1 | "How was your day, dork?" Anything wrong with allowing that?Yeah this kind of summarizes how I am with this girl, I definitely say whatever the fuck I want without concern, and she occasionally calls me a dork. Like you said, on paper, it sounds bad in theory, but in context/reality, I still am the superior one | /r/askTRP | 22/09/15 05:40 PM |
| 0 | "How was your day, dork?" Anything wrong with allowing that?Friend zone? We fucked twice that night lol | /r/askTRP | 22/09/15 05:38 PM |
| 1 | "How was your day, dork?" Anything wrong with allowing that?This is actually great knowledge, especially for the perspective on how to control this in women with whom I'd have a more serious relationship. | /r/askTRP | 22/09/15 05:38 PM |
| 1 | "How was your day, dork?" Anything wrong with allowing that?Yeah I'm basically in the same boat, not a potential LTR, so who gives a fuck right? | /r/askTRP | 22/09/15 05:35 PM |
| 2 | "How was your day, dork?" Anything wrong with allowing that?Given that I'm in grad school and about to be a doctor, I think she definitely sees me as potential BB...thing is it doesn't bother me because 1) I am in no way attached to this girl 2) the minute she starts doing the whole song n dance of let me mak the beta beg, I can just next her. | /r/askTRP | 22/09/15 05:34 PM |
| 1 | When do you believe a woman about her partner count, and how many dates till you decide you're beta bux?What goes down as a favor in your book? And my issue is that I'm debating whether or not to believe this girl, as it makes all the difference in declaring what she says as truth, vs they are all symptoms of red flags | /r/askTRP | 17/09/15 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Roles, respect and responsibility acceptance as an alpha traitHow do I pass it though? Just ask some dumbass question? | /r/TheRedPill | 10/09/15 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Roles, respect and responsibility acceptance as an alpha traitAs someone who finds himself falling into the Gronk! Mentality, this is a much needed post. I think that last bit about not having to be the apex alpha in every situation is crucial. As an INTP, I'm not meant to talk people's ears off. So I can come off as initially alpha, but once I find myself the center of attention, I kinda get stuck there. In a conversation etc, how do I "pass the ball" and have someone else take center spotlight? Because half the time that I Gronk! Is when I find that I'm … | /r/TheRedPill | 09/09/15 08:27 PM |
| 1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Yeah I see where you're coming from. This was my first time meeting new people in a social setting in close to a year. Your last paragraph about Machiavellian approach to meeting people is on the money. That's exactly what I need to do | /r/TheRedPill | 08/09/15 02:00 PM |
| 1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Yeah I'm quickly realizing how inept I was with these social dynamics. Is there a specific subreddit or book you can refer me to so that I can improve my knowledge? Your answers to my questions were pretty straightforward and I appreciate that. Ultimately, I fucked up, and acted too quickly, whereas a wiser person would have chosen to wait and observe their surroundings better first. Any quick/dirty tips as to how I can ascertain whether or not I've done enough surveying before being aggressive?… | /r/TheRedPill | 08/09/15 12:06 AM |
| 1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Yeah. That's very true. In your opinion, do you think it's likely that Broseph just manipulated me into picking a fight to serve his own personal agenda? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 04:47 PM |
| 0 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]I always saw "living as men, among men" as being the life, you and your group of males are straightforward with each other, AND you can trust each other. This was very foolish of me to somehow pawn off that assumption onto a stranger Omega. And now that I think about it, I'm getting the idea that Broseph may have manipulated me into picking that fight.. | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 04:46 PM |
| 1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]No I appreciate that, because the more I'm fleshing out this discussion, i'm realizing that I've been playing a game with blinders on, fuck all assumptions about respect, it's a fuckin jungle, but with 'civil' rules | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 04:44 PM |
| 0 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Broseph: Hey man more shots! You: Naw, I'm gonna grab a beer and go talk to people. Done and done. If he has a problem with it just jokingly tell him to fuck off and go do your thing. So even though he tells me he and Chad have beef...I'm supposed to pretend I'm unaware of the beef when I meet Chad? You should be doing whatever you want all the time to maximize your own enjoyment and success. YES. You are right, I went a little too hard on the bro-time expectation rather than the social time, bu… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 07:03 AM |
| 0 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Yeah, I think my mistake is not being fully cognizant that the same game that women play with men in terms of TRP/seduction/acquiring plates, but there are similar social dynamics at play in society as a whole? Yeah that was a complete FU. For about a year, the few times I did party, it would be far and few, and it would mainly be me and some bros/dudes who are married or in LTRs...a decent mix of betas really, in some of their cases. BUT I'm making excuses. It was a fuckup, a lapse of judgement… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 06:59 AM |
| -1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]I agree, but he wasn't allowing it. And Broseph primed me to understand that there is just some sizable beef between he and EuroChad. So it's two possibilities, either he engineered it, in Cahoots with the guy and girl, as a part of some larger scheme that they had Or that there truly is beef between he and EuroChad, and it's so sizable that EuroChad instantly dislikes me just because he knows I'm Broseph's friend. But then again, Broseph told me he was drinking since 1 pm that day, and his brea… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 06:43 AM |
| -3 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Ready for it? The hostess's brother was desperately trying to fuck Becky, and you pissed Becky off repeatedly. In his mind, you were fucking up his chances, so you had to go. Laughing at the unicorn drawing, in my opinion, was your biggest fuckup I really like what you're saying and I get exactly where you're coming from. What you're saying makes me feel wayyyy better about the situation than what a couple people were sayin. But, the fatal flaw in your analysis, the Achilles heel of your argumen… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 06:36 AM |
| -2 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Soo...you'd rather just continue to live a sub-optimal life just because you don't want to have a general air of honesty among your friends? Like I think one of the few alpha things I was taught was this; if you're honest, expect to be met with honesty. It makes life so much more enjoyable! The only way confrontation causes "drama" is when someone's ego is too big and they can't handle a little bit of criticism. Living with people like that in every aspect of my life seems depressing. --This is … | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 06:19 AM |
| -5 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]This explains a lot...so basically, doing bitch shit like talking shit about me behind my back can work wonders for him...and it's socially acceptable in metered doses... I always considered myself as someone who takes the high-road and doesn't bad mouth others...NEVER. What I'm basically understanding is that I have to change this about myself in order to be able to succeed socially? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 01:16 AM |
| -3 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Tbh he sounds like a decent guy Forgive my stupid questions then, but given the fact that this dude repeatedly bad mouthed me behind my back, he's a decent guy? Is talking shit about people behind their backs a lot more socially acceptable than I realized? I'm not mocking you, I simply grew up in an old school culture, not Western culture/norms. you broke social expectations with bizarre behaviour. Just to make sure I'm correct, confronting and addressing an issue someone has with me is bizarre … | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 01:01 AM |
| 0 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Yes being machiavellian to a degree is a key social skill. Socialising is it's own game and as much as giving no fucks can be good, you don't want to go on an autism rampage like this ever again. I guess my behavior was a bit autistic, my social skills are VERY rusty at the moment. I agree, when I had to verbalize too much, I had completely lost my composure. Talking to Broseph today though, he said that the people at the party were scared shitless and nobody would fuck with me. Not sure if that… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 12:58 AM |
| -1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]You look like a jerk putting your arm around her when he has his arm around her. She responded very positively to me putting my arm around her, that's when she insisted I take her number and text her next time I'm in town. I don't disagree that I got too drunk. I probably should have tried to just sit back and take in the surroundings more. But then at what point do I demonstrate my social proof? Because if I was to wanna pick up a girl there, I'd have to demonstrate the social proof in a larger… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/09/15 12:53 AM |
| -1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]I already have a couple of cute girls lined up, stealing that hb5.5 was just me being an aggressive dickhead. I knew that Broseph and EuroChad don't get along, and I didn't appreciate his disrespecting me, so I was just pissing in his Cheerios and winning bro-points with good ole Broseph This is a novel way of looking at it for me, I'm writing this in my notebook, thank you. If you have a TRP thread or an article that elaborates a bit more on this point, I'd really appreciate it. Yeah, I've neve… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 11:40 PM |
| 0 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Respected and professional adults do not get into public shit talking episodes like this. So if he's talking shit, I don't even confront him about it? Or should I just confront him in a more private, 1 on 1 setting, and perhaps be less aggressive when I do it? Let him be the first to lose his cool. He was never gonna lose his cool, because all he did was talk shit behind my back, and not say anything to my face so, what's the RP way to go about someone badmouthing you behind your back? | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:49 PM |
| -1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]I essentially had the upbringing of a neckbeard. So the only exposure I've had to these intergroup politics/tensions/drama etc have only been via TV...I'm rapidly learning a lot about this game | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:31 PM |
| -2 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]But again, this guy won't say anything to my face about getting lost. And I already established some rapport with other members of the group such that I can get by interacting with them, he wouldn't feel comfortable telling me to leave. Kinda like a "second chance" sorta deal. You need to have a stronger amount of social proof of people who respect you and look up to you. I kinda understand where you're coming from, but if you could elaborate a little more on this, or frame it in the context of … | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:30 PM |
| -6 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Soo I can't do something like pretend to be buddy buddy, and whisper in his ear that he's a pussy when I hug him? Cause I will see this guy again. And I don't fuckin like him. He doesn't like me. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:28 PM |
| 0 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Yeah, you're right. HELL FUCKING YES I WANNA LEARN FROM THIS. And I'm not upset cause it's more than likely I'll be back at a social function with these people, so if you have any advice on what to do/how to go about it I'd appreciate that. I didn't try to be the center of attention, but that's kinda just what happened. I'm not true alpha yet, but the fact that me, being whatever newbie level alpha that I am, was pretty much handed control illustrates the complete LACK of masculine/alpha charact… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:27 PM |
| 1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]did you tip your fedora to the ladies after you said this? LMAO that made me laugh, thank you. Soo, in case this isn't extremely obvious, I haven't had many confrontations/altercations since I was 19, how do grown ups do it? All you say is "it was a joke, I meant no offense" And when the bitch says "no it's still very sexist, bla bla" Do I just repeat the same line? shouldn't have started talking shit like a 19 year old But he was badmouthing me the whole fuckin night. Am I supposed to play his … | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:23 PM |
| -15 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]I'm gonna run into this guy again, in front of my colleagues. How should I handle it next time? I think of maybe doing some Machiavellian shit like handshake + hug, and when I hug, whisper to him that he's a pussy, and then just pretend to be buddy buddy | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:20 PM |
| -1 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]How so? This has to do with the fact that EuroChad has beef with Broseph, friend of my enemy is also my enemy sort of thing. The whole kill or be killed thing refers to how I approached the AMOG thing. Either I AMOG EuroChad, or just let him make me look like a beta. In retrospect, maybe I should've swallowed some pride. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:19 PM |
| -4 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]I don't shrug off any social circles because they're all important to me Yeah...I gotta accept that I fucked up, and not rationalize that away. see if EuroChad was faking Alpha or if he was threatened by you. From what I've heard, and seen, he's a very insecure guy, who won't even back his shit up to my face. But it's worth noting he left the party before I did, undoubt partially due to me being confrontational. So here's the deal, I know this isn't the last time I'm gonna see these people. What… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 10:17 PM |
| -9 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]EuroChad is not my boy. He's a guy who has beef with my "boy" | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 09:38 PM |
| -11 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]BUT THIS GUY EUROCHAD IS NOT A TRUE ALPHA. He was threatened simply by my appearance and showing up there. - and that whole feminism at a party thing makes me feel like the social circle I'm skipping out on is not all that great. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 09:38 PM |
| -3 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]I guess something I didn't make clear is that EuroChad and my friend Broseph are at odds. I've known Broseph for a short time, but I see potential in him to be a fellow male friend/colleague etc. So would you suggest I essentially tick him off? Or are you saying something more Machiavellian such as I make EuroChad somehow like me, and play it off to Broseph as it being something different? | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 09:34 PM |
| -5 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]bloated ego and insecurity Not gonna argue there. But the bloated ego is me trying to be "confident/cocky/Chad" I'm aware there's a fine balance between having a huge ego and simply being an alpha, think you could elaborate a bit for me? Feminist dominated country, doesn't matter how alpha you are sometimes you will have to play the bluepills game You're right, I know I fucked up by not being completely aware of all the group dynamics/members before letting that joke slip. How do you decide when… | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 09:31 PM |
| -3 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]Like I said, I was already at odds with the AMOG simply because of the circumstances of me coming there. So in my head, I thought either kill or be killed. Looking back on it, I probably should have had more poise, but this is a realm of social interaction that I'm lacking in. Being Machiavellian with my social interactions is a new and difficult thing. I know once I've practiced/analyzed enough it'll click, hence why I'm here now | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 09:28 PM |
| -6 | "You can't spell woman without MAN" how one Omega ruined my night, how do I learn from this [FR]You tried to AMOG a guy who everyone knows and respects and you were the new guy. Granted, that was the case, but at the same time, this guy was at odds with my friend Broseph, so I'm not about to drop my boy in hopes of entering some new social circle. Never attempt to AMOG a real AMOG of a group So again, this guy is the "perceived alpha" but he's EXTREMELY insecure. Literally from the first handshake/intro, this guy was just not liking me. Are you suggesting I just stand with my tail between … | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 09:25 PM |
| 2 | Skeptical About TRP Theory? Try it on Your Ex-GF. (Step-by-Step Guide to be her Chad)Great post, I like that although this is listed as the "get with your ex" guide, a lot of this stuff can be applied to other girls. I'm specifically thinking of girls who I went on a date or two with, made out etc, then it just fizzled out for whatever reason and we haven't spoken/seen each other in a long time. Either way, I know I'm gonna have to come back and read this a few more times And unrelated, but I enjoy all the links layered into your post, please keep doing that. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/09/15 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Post-wall woman on r/okcupid has wild threesomes and multiple fuckbuddies, then wonders why men won't commit to her. Commenters put together their heads to figure out this perplexing mystery.HAHAHA Too funny, I was coming to post an FR about a plate who is a similar story to this woman. Except the difference is that mine is 22 yrs old, and she's surprised why I won't commit to her. She's already bragged about plenty threesomes, maybe she's cognizant of the approaching wall since her shitty ride in college is about to be over | /r/TheRedPill | 05/09/15 01:28 AM |
| 3 | Does the RP man negotiate sex? And how about being a gentleman?Very GREAT analogy. That one is definitely gonna stick with me (I hope). I think it's really just a matter of recognizing shit tests and at the very least avoiding them till I can learn to deflect them. Agree and amplify has been my go to thus far, but that's keeping me too 1 dimensional | /r/askTRP | 02/09/15 12:51 AM |
| 3 | Does the RP man negotiate sex? And how about being a gentleman?Thanks for the detailed response, I learn the best this way. I don't think I'll be sleeping with this girl simply because we both live with our parents, and I kinda slipped up n showed her I was only interested in sex the last time we hung out. She just texted me "I gotta find you a bae now" But that doesn't mean this can't be a learning experience that I can use for all the future hoes I meet. I guess as a guy who has been fairly good looking, but abstinent due to religious reasons for many yea… | /r/askTRP | 01/09/15 09:12 PM |
| 5 | RedPill successes that I wish to shareThis post has me thinking "FUCK YEAH" great stuff man, please keep putting more material like this up | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/15 09:52 PM |
| 0 | Not another noobie post about texting theory/ [FR]I've gotten laid without TRP and with my fucked up interpretation of it. I'm just trying to integrate TRP into my life properly without alduterating or misinterpreting it. Hence why I keep coming to you guys with these random/weird/seemingly stupid questions | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/15 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Not another noobie post about texting theory/ [FR]Thank you so much, this is definitely the kind of clarification/distinction I'm trying to make. Could you perhaps give me an example of a back n forth for you texting a chick you've only seen twice, but won't be able to see for a couple days - a maintenance Convo | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/15 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Not another noobie post about texting theory/ [FR]Not sure I agree with that. The church girl does a lot more of comfort testing, compared to the CC rider who will meet you up in a parking lot just to fuck | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/15 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Not another noobie post about texting theory/ [FR]Yes, this was how I used to approach it, but I stopped doing all that because TRP seems to recommend against it. Do you have a link or two that you might recommend? | /r/TheRedPill | 31/08/15 05:17 PM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]You're very correct. I think you, and a couple.other posters are slowly helping me to realize how to use RP tenants in moderation. Cause really this was me taking the "I am the prize" mentality to an extreme. I'll ease up a bit I guess. And seeing as I'm not in college anymore, I shouldn't be surprised that girls aren't DTF on the first date :/ | /r/TheRedPill | 27/08/15 08:30 PM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]either way she gets what she wants and you're left holding your dick Well, when I was their beta bitch boy, I still got some. Plenty actually. You are the prize. You're completely right. Guess this is just one of the RP tenants that I haven't fully internalized | /r/TheRedPill | 27/08/15 12:33 AM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]Hahahaha this comment got better and better as I read through it. I agree with you 100% My thing is, I know I have many beta tendencies, before swallowing the pill, when I would spin multiple plates, I had no problem letting each of them think I was their beta bitch boy who's strung on them, despite not giving a fuck. It was a few texts of endearment a day, and it cost me nothing. So trying to spin plates the proper, RP way, is proving to be quite difficult, and I can tell this girl is nearing t… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 11:01 PM |
| 0 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]She loses 1 point because she's 4'11. And I'm a 3rd year med student at the top of my class, who's also prepping for a bodybuilding contest. For some hoes, I'm what you'd call a lottery ticket waiting to be cashed in. But yeah, some very Noob behaviors, this is only my second date since coming out of my proverbial studying/monk mode. In other words, more criticism and ways to fix my mistakes are gladly welcomed | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 10:27 PM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]I was only there to do cardio, regardless of whether she showed or didn't show, I was gonna be there for an hour | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 07:15 PM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]Yeah fuck me. Actions speak louder than words, and in getting blue balls, I got pissed n acted irrationally. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 07:15 PM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]I had set aside an hour after my cardio for her. She kept me past that by 10 minutes and that's when I freaked. Essentially I tried to emphasize that MY time is important | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 12:22 PM |
| -1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]Ahh of course. Only on reddit | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 12:21 PM |
| -4 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]I agree completely, but if I already left angrily bc of "deceit" (even though really it's cause I was high n blue balled) then I might as well stick to that principle and maintain frame right? | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 11:49 AM |
| -1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]If, when meeting someone off tinder, I don't sexualize the conversation early on, they might think I'm not into hooking up. What a terrible thing that would be >:) I definitely don't view myself as seeking her validation, I truly consider myself a point or two above her in terms of SMV | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 11:48 AM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]Buuuut this girl is in no way long gone. She thinks I might be a BB and so, she won't let go that easily | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 11:47 AM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]The most recent message i got was "I hope we can still be friends" I know she doesn't wanna be friends, and I know in her head, she's vetting me for some type of LTR which I definitely won't commit to, but as someone pointed out in a previous thread, the game needs to be played. I held my weed wayyy better than her, and as such, I know all the cards in her hand. I know she's on the rebound after breaking off an engagement with a rich dude less than a month ago (whom she stole from his ex-fiance)… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 11:46 AM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]In all honesty, I'm trying to adapt that abundance mentality. I was having a bit of a shit day earlier, so I was already high before meeting her lol. I literally just squeezed her into my day. But you're right, showing anger is not a good thing. Even though it seems to have her mpre more eager to please me | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 11:43 AM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]Could you maybe point out some of my fuck ups and how you would handle them.differently please? I probably will see this girl again | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 10:58 AM |
| 1 | "I don't have sex right away" and the importance of having your own place. [FR]I'm very Aware that I failed these shit tests, but this girl is dying to see me again (and probably fuck me). I can tell she's definitely more experienced than I am, but she seems like a typical 20 something with nothing to offer other than a hot body that many on this sub have dealt with, hence why I'm asking for advice. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/08/15 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Does each plate think she's the only one?That last paragraph. Thank you sir | /r/askTRP | 23/08/15 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Does each plate think she's the only one?Sooo is this you saying lie n agree or just pointing something out? | /r/askTRP | 21/08/15 11:49 PM |
| 3 | [FR] monk mode for 2 months help me shake off rust re-postI was unsure if this would be the right approach or not, thanks for your Cents | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/15 11:48 PM |
| 1 | [FR] I had been monk mode for 2 months, help me shake off the rustSo my point is I'm fairly certain that she gets down, but it's just that she presentrd herself as a unicorn bc she thinks I might be a BB provider (I'm about ti finisg med school) | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/15 08:29 PM |
| 1 | [FR] I had been monk mode for 2 months, help me shake off the rustBut this will be in a situation where we're both still in the same room. What do I do when she insists on repeating the question instead of letting me brush it off? | /r/TheRedPill | 21/08/15 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Does each plate think she's the only one?So if I'm gonna go off actions. She's early 20's, taking a year off from culinary school and working as a manager at noodles n co. Has multiple tats, and her tinder profile has a sexy pic of her in a bathing suit. Granted first date I didn't kino as hard as I wanted to, but I think I can smash on date #2 (this Sunday) Off these actions, I'd say CC AWALT and that she's looking to determine if I'm BB or AF. Am I correct in this assessment? | /r/askTRP | 21/08/15 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Does each plate think she's the only one?What do you mean "judge her by her actions not words" Probably a dumb question, but I had an atypical upbringing, so humor me please. I'm enough of a sociopath that I can straight up lie to this chick anout fidelity, but I'm trying to adapt RP philosophy to every facet of my life, so hence why I'm here rather than going about my usual way | /r/askTRP | 21/08/15 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Got stood up by 2 female friendsI hate to be saying NAWALT. But I have a hard time believing they did that just to see if they can push my buttons. I even saw a snapchat story that essentially proves they ended up biking where they said they would, I'm just pretty sure they changed their minds about biking for a longer time b/c of less than ideal weather. So you're saying I should've just went off on em? Wellll it's a bit late for that. What would you suggest I do now? My plan was just to phase them out by just not giving.them… | /r/askTRP | 18/06/15 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Got stood up by 2 female friendsSo how do I go about NOT being an orbiter but maintaining good appearances. Simply be polite in those.public interactions but not arrange to hang with them? | /r/askTRP | 17/06/15 03:10 PM |
| 2 | Got stood up by 2 female friendsThese are both girls with whom I have no desire to get intimate with EVER. It was a truly platonic hangout. So I'm an ultra beta for keeping platonic female friends? Although not gonna lie, this is something I've been trying to do, as this time 1 year ago I had not a single platonic female friend | /r/askTRP | 17/06/15 02:37 PM |
| 6 | Got stood up by 2 female friendsSo basically the RP way in this situation is the same as my instinct? Sweet thanks | /r/askTRP | 17/06/15 02:02 PM |
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