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Why marketing, HR, and elementary school teachers? Just curious on the reasoning. Not arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:01 AM
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I just said we can’t just eliminate some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:02 AM
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I see men who all for equality when it comes to paying for a date but not when it comes to the amount of past sexual partners. Double standards go both ways. We can’t eliminate just some.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:09 PM
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Men on dating apps do have bad photos but I don’t think that’s as negative as you think. I’ve been pleasantly surprised when I met men in person and found that they were more handsome than their photos made them seem. A lot of men don’t actually have “game”. They have no idea how to make a woman feel comfortable, build sexual tension, and read social cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:06 PM
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I think that is a very valid point. How would someone I’m dating now know what rules I followed with someone I dated previously?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:04 PM
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Let me try and explain as best as I can. Let’s say I meet a guy from a dating app that we will call Robert. Robert is nice but I don’t know him very well. I know nothing about his character, his intentions, I haven’t seen him in stressful situations, etc. So I set rules that I will follow when dating him until I learn more about him and feel more comfortable doing certain things with him. I work with this guy, let’s call him Jim. I have a crush on Jim and wouldn’t set the same rules for him as I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:00 PM
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Well, it’s men who always tell women that we’re more emotional than they are, aka different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:43 PM
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There’s a balance here. Unless you’re dating someone who is a psych professional, your partner isn’t qualified to deal with mental issues. Someone complaining about their day is normal and should be expected. If someone is bothered by that then a partner isn’t something they need. When women say they aren’t your therapist, it means they don’t want to deal with your unresolved trauma. Just like I see men say they wouldn’t date a rape survivor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:40 PM
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As a woman, I’d like to try and offer explanation for some of these. I’ve seen a lot of women complain about men being pushy for sex and all that, but i also seen a lot of guys being rejected for not being pushy since minute one because the woman took it as a signal of disinterest. There is a balance here. You’re seeing women complain about two extremes on opposite sides of the spectrum. A man initiating sex should be somewhere in the middle. Not too soon and not too late. A woman finds a mans a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:28 PM
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It means that he wants someone who is submissive, will blindly follow him, and never challenge him without expecting him to prove that he’s capable of leading. I would consider this a red flag and move on to the next. Not even worth the time in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:26 AM
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This is a great trait to have. The problem is people take advantage of it. And I wouldn’t trust someone who demands it in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 07:16 AM
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When did I say they couldn’t get younger men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 03:38 PM
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What is it that makes women their age interested in their personalities or bodies but young women only interested in their wallets? Older women are usually more established in their careers and more financially stable. So they aren’t looking for a man for financial reasons. Women with their shit together want men for companionship, sex, love, etc. The whole reason a younger woman would choose an older man is for money. Otherwise she could have a more physically attractive and stronger man who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:18 AM
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This is the unhinged, paranoid conclusion without any basis. You can't argue with what I'm actually saying, so you have to invent some absurd, nefarious motive to argue with instead. No, this is what you actually did, but you want to deny it for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:31 AM
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Obviously we aren't talking about a specific woman here. I don't believe that you were unable to follow that. Words like “she” and “her” are singular. It's certainly relevant to my point. It’s not relevant to your incorrect statement that I was replying to. Who is "they" here? Are you sure you aren't imagining that as well? “They” would be men. You are aware of their complaints. Don’t pretend you aren’t in defense of your incorrect statement. According only to your hysterical paranoia. Nothing I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:14 AM
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No one did in reality, but you suggested that I did. No I didn’t. Who's standards was I supposedly intending to change? In reality, no one, but you had some paranoid ranting about me doing just that. Oh ok because you keep saying “she” and “her” as if We’re speaking of someone in particular. You are trying to get women as a whole to lower their standards. Not one particular woman. It's exactly the point. Instead of complaining about the quality of men, these women could focus on self-improvement…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:12 AM
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You seem to have the crazy belief that someone is telling her to change her standards. That isn’t what I asked though. I asked who said that in particular? Ok. That doesn't change the fact that no one is asking her to change her standards. Who is the her that I accused you of asking anything from? There are a lot of men complaining that women won’t have sex with them. And what do we tell them? We tell them to improve themselves, not to change their standards. Not the point. You said no one cares…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 08:06 PM
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So then who said that she should? Who said someone said that? I said her celibacy is a result of her standards in response to you claiming that her standards don’t matter if she’s celibate. It still doesn't matter because no one cares if she stays celibate. There are a lot of men complaining that women won’t have sex with them. No one is asking her to change anything about her standards or her sex life. Who said anyone asked a woman to change anything about her standards? And who is her? So roun…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:58 PM
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That doesn't imply that she should change her standards. I didn’t say it did. I said her celibacy is a result of her standards in response to you claiming that her standards don’t matter if she’s celibate. You didn’t ask women to change it I know. I know as well. You instead took a roundabout approach to getting women to lower their standards. Less direct with the hopes of leaving room to deny the intent. You only imagined that. I am fine with them staying celibate. No, that was what you did. Cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:27 PM
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She would be remaining celibate because she is not happy with her options. No one is asking her to change that. She’s not happy with her options because of her standards. Meaning her celibacy is a result of her standards. You didn’t ask women to change it, you took a roundabout approach at getting women to lower their standards. According to your hysterical imagination... Its your goal according to everything you say and continue to say. The intent was the same the whole time. I am criticizing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:22 PM
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Her standards don't matter if she is staying celibate. In this situation, she would be remaining celibate because of her standards. Who's goal? That's contrary to everything I actually said. Your goal. You only added the bit about celibacy to try and change the intent behind your original point. It isn’t successful. I've never wanted anyone to lower their standards, just to stop hypocritically blaming others. You do indeed want women to lower their standards to match their own attractiveness in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:15 PM
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Correct. With the intent of getting them to change their behavior and lower their standards. Only to the extent of not hypocritically blaming men. I don't give a shit if they ever sleep with anyone. In fact, it's better if they don't. Someone can lower their standards and still not sleep with anyone. The goal is still to get a woman to lower her standards. This directly conflicts with everything I actually said. No it doesn’t. You only just added the bit about remaining celibate to try and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:05 PM
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That's silly. They could just be humble and stay celibate. They could. There are a number of options available to them. Yet you chose to criticize perceived hypocrisy with the intent of getting them to change their behavior and lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:51 PM
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The correction would be to simply stop making the hypocritical criticism of men. No one gives a shit if they spend the rest of their lives alone with cats and booze. The only way to get over that complaint would be to lower their standards. Until they do that, the complaint will always exist. We’re getting to closer to the truth now. That's just the one you imagined. I never suggested this. You just suggested it even more now. The desired result is just for the hypocrites to be criticized. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:36 PM
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I criticized the hypocrisy. That's what I care about. I don't give a shit who they choose to sleep with or don't. The only reason to criticize hypocrisy is the intent to get the person or people to see their error and correct it. The correction would be lowering their standards. You have accepted that you won’t get the desired result but you care enough to try. I don't desire any outcome. Like I said, they can go full ham with wine and cats and never sleep with anyone. No one cares. If you didn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 06:07 PM
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But the comments didn't say anything close to that. You imagined everything about getting a woman to lower her standards. I don't care what they do in response to the criticism. Saying you care isn’t true, otherwise you wouldn’t have criticized in the first place. You simply accept that criticism won’t have the desired outcome but still the motive is to get them to lower their standards. I never argued that it didn’t. So we are clear that telling someone their standards are hypocritical is not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:31 PM
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In your imagination. Show me where I said anyone should lower their standards. You can't, so you will just childishly pretend. I showed you your comments and pointed out that they’re simply arguments to get a woman to lower her standards. Especially since this post is about women not doing that. Still waiting on any words that even imply that anyone should lower their standard. They’ve already been provided. So now you do agree that it involves sleeping with someone they aren't interested in? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:06 PM
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Except that you didn't quote anything that could be taken to said what you thought. I can't tell if you are purposely lying or really unable to understand what is real and what you imagined. Except I did. And I did it multiple times. Now you’re just denying it and seem annoyed that I won’t just let you pretend that your message was different than what I pointed out by using your own words. Which would involve sleeping with someone they weren't really interested in. That's what lowering standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:56 PM
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I quoted you previously and even gave you opportunities to explain. I didn’t say you simply said people should sleep with people they don’t want. I said it’s an attempt to get people to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:49 PM
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It was indeed what you actually said. Either you don’t understand the actual logic and reason behind what you’re saying (unlikely) or you just don’t want to admit them (more likely).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:46 PM
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I pointed out what you said multiple times already. Something is gonna change if I do it once more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:40 PM
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In reality, this is what you actually did. You’re now just denying it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:37 PM
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No, this is what you did. Now you’re just denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:35 PM
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No, the ones I see. The ones people actually do and then deny sometimes for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:36 AM
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What people do can absolutely change my mind. It’s their actions that I form my opinion on in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:27 PM
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I am never desperate to hear people tell the truth. That would be setting myself up for disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 04:33 PM
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That doesn’t seem like the point. I think the point is to get a woman to lower her standards but you don’t want to admit that for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 08:40 AM
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Seems pretty easy to understand from here. I’m glad to hear that. Now process that information before replying. It’s processed and I still have the same questions. To point out that her complaint is hypocritical and rooted in her own extreme misconceptions about her own attractiveness. So what is anyone supposed to do with that information? What’s the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:19 AM
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So don't. No one is telling her to. She probably won’t. But you posted your opinion on a discussion regarding this and I’m questioning it. Take a look back at my original reply. I did. Now what? That's ridiculous. The point is that the women have an extraordinarily skewed sense of their own attractiveness, value, etc. No one is telling anyone to sleep with anyone they don't want to. Just be single. Hell, keep complaining about being single, but don't be surprised when someone points out the hypo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:33 PM
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Except the post is about why it makes no sense for women to adjust their standards. If you’re discussing the attractiveness of the women complaining then it would have to relate to the post somehow. And the only connection would be that their own value or attractiveness should lower their standards. Which isn’t a true statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:24 PM
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Well there is a difference. Instant physical attraction takes a single glance and fits the literal definition of the word “instant”. Taking the duration of a date to build isn’t instant. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:01 PM
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Great. Let's all express our opinions of each other and each other's opinions. I’m also in support of questioning the opinions of others. That isn't anywhere close to a rational interpretation of anything I said. Well, you’re only mentioning that women must lack something if the quality of men they’re attracting is low while leaving out the fact that many of women’s complaints are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:52 PM
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Wanting "the spark" is just a nicer way of saying "I want to be instantly attracted and charmed the instant I first interact with a potential male suitor." This is part of the original comment you made that I replied to. Notice instant physical attraction is listed as part of the spark. It isn’t. It’s before the spark. Being charmed also isn’t instantaneous. It takes time to build.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:49 PM
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Except no one is telling you that you don’t have place to form that opinion. So what I’m gathering is women have an over inflated sense of attractiveness or value to a relationship and there’s no problem with the quality of men available?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:47 PM
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Anyone has place to form an opinion and displeased with their options. And what about the attractive women who also complain about the quality of men? What’s the response to their criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:44 PM
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The only reason to criticize it is to get the person to change their views. Which would mean getting a woman to lower her standards. And what about the attractive women who also complain about the quality of men? What’s the response to their criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:41 PM
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So as I said, it’s a way to get women to lower their standards. The whole “trying to lower women’s self esteem” thing has run its course. Many women are being told that they can’t attract the type of man they want so they have decided having no man is better than having one they never had interest in. And then, you thinking a woman isn’t that attractive doesn’t mean she has to be happy and grateful for the men available to her. She doesn’t like them and that isn’t going to change. It’s unrealist…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:38 PM
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How is it hypocritical for a woman to complain about the quality of men that are her options?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:31 PM
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So then what is the goal of trying to get a woman to realize her own attractiveness if it’s not just a roundabout way of getting her to lower her standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:24 PM
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Except that would be false. Instant physical attraction is just that, instant physical attraction. Chemistry or the “spark” takes longer to build. Chemistry and instant physical attraction can also exist independently of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 06:21 PM
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I have a simple way of looking at this. If I have to make myself cum, then what do I need the man for?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 04:51 PM
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Wanting "the spark" is just a nicer way of saying "I want to be instantly attracted and charmed the instant I first interact with a potential male suitor." It's often a convenient way of hiding how much you are weighing physical attraction in that monkey brain of yours so as to not seem shallow. This sounds like it’s attributing the “spark” to mostly physical attraction. I am explaining that both are important. Your last sentence leaves out the “charmed” part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 03:09 PM
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Anyone is allowed to have a preference. It becomes an issue when a preference is used to insult someone for not having the desired features. For example, I can say I prefer taller men. That’s just a preference. It would make me sound significantly more shitty if I said short men aren’t worth dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:32 AM
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Funny. Women say social media has altered men’s standards of what women should look like also.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:27 AM
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A “spark” is different than instant physical attraction. A woman can find someone physically attraction and have no chemistry. Chemistry is a mans ability to make a woman feel comfortable and build sexual tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:25 AM
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Well what’s the objective of getting a woman to realize her own attractiveness? Adjust her standards to match? Which can also be phrased as lowering her standards. Let’s say a woman who thinks she’s a 9/10 realizes she’s actually a 5/10. How is that supposed to change what she does and doesn’t find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 07:22 AM
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If a woman settles for a man she finds less attractive then she will just be tempted by the men she really does want. This will leave her with two options: living with feeling unfulfilled or cheating so that she can experience the men she really wants while hurting her husband in the process. Would you want a wife who is lusting for other men and just took you because you were the safe option? The solution seems simple, be with the highly desired man and don’t gain weight, stay active, and do wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:59 PM
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I didn’t say anything about sleeping around. All I want to know is that if a woman at any age is attracting men who are highly desirable, why should she choose to be with men who are less desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 05:38 PM
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A single mother isn’t at her best though. I’m speaking about women in their prime years of attractiveness as this post mentioned. Why wouldn’t that woman ignore men who aren’t as desirable as her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:23 AM
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Yes that’s absolutely true. Unfortunate, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:22 AM
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That doesn’t answer the question though. If the woman is at her best, why shouldn’t she ignore men who aren’t at their best?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:48 PM
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I know of one sane, in shape, attractive man who takes care of himself that struggled with dating. He does live in a very small town though. The rest of the men I hear complaints about finding women are from men who are overly emotional, combative, overweight, or otherwise physically unattractive. These are men that I personally know and speak to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:04 AM
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When the woman is at her best, why wouldn’t she ignore men who aren’t at their best? If she drops in attractiveness then it’s expected that she will lower her standards unless she’s willing to accept lower odds of finding a partner by continuing to search through the most attractive men. This is just logical and I don’t understand why this is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 06:24 AM
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Woman here. I wouldn’t under any circumstances date a man who is my height (5’10) or shorter. Saying I love a man for his height only though is false. For it to be true then that would mean I’d have to be interested in every man who meets my height requirement. I’m not. There are a number of different things that come together to make a man someone I want to be with. Height alone isn’t enough but still those other qualities without the height isn’t enough either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:22 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:10 AM
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The meanest rejection I experienced was in high school. My best friend at the time liked this one boy but she thought I liked him also. She convinced me to go with her to the cafeteria to discuss it. I stupidly followed instead of taking my dumb ass to class. When she approached him and asked him if he knew I liked him and if he was into me, he said “who would date that?” and laughed with a group of his friends. I was very embarrassed. The stupid thing is I wasn’t interested in him. I was just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 07:53 AM
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As a woman who doesn’t sleep around, I agree. I am turned off by men who have high body counts. Which is why I think it’s perfectly fair for a man who doesn’t want casual sex to also want a woman who doesn’t engage in it. It’s about compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:35 AM
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This is one of the more tame opinions I’ve seen and I can respect it. For context, I’m a woman. I see nothing wrong in a man saying the preferences you stated here since most of them I agree with and actually hold myself to. Not wanting to be obese or easily accessible to anyone isn’t something someone should do solely for the purpose of attracting a partner, but because they value themselves. If someone shows they don’t take pride in themselves, then why would I? How can I form a healthy relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:30 AM
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I wouldn’t lose attraction for him if he lost a fight that he didn’t start. If he started the fight and lost, I wouldn’t say I’d be less attracted to him, but I would question how good of a man he is. I mean, why start fights? Having been in a relationship with a man who lost a fight in my presence, the attraction is always lost long after the fight took place and his hurt ego begins to surface. He became more aggressive and angry with me and around me since that happened. I assume he thought th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:11 PM
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You gotta learn the definition of trolling if you want to be a mod that doesn’t allow trolling. My best advice to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:24 PM
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You didn’t see where she asked what he expected to happen? The comment is up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:21 PM
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I never tried to make the argument that anyone wants to start a relationship off of a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:20 PM
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Lol that’s funny to me. But either way I can’t speak on it as I’m not all that familiar with other women’s take on inexperienced versus experienced men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:22 AM
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Ahh ok I understand now. This is news to me though. Because many women complain that they’re not being sexually satisfied. Unless they’re all sleeping with inexperienced men, I don’t know if the experienced are any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:19 AM
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most men value experienced me Ok, I’m missing something. I thought we were talking about heterosexual men only?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:07 AM
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A lie at the start of the relationship doesn’t mean it will be a bad one. That’s just something people tell themselves in order to believe they will eventually know the truth. Fact is we will die without ever knowing the truth behind most of the lies we were told.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:06 AM
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There is nothing wrong with sexually inexperienced men. I’ve had better sex with inexperienced men who were willing to learn than men who considered themselves experienced and knowledgeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:00 AM
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I wouldn’t care. I wouldn’t expect those ten men to have had a negative impact on his mental or physical state. I would simply evaluate the way he behaves to determine if we are compatible mentally. If he is sane, clean, healthy, and treats me well then I’d have no issue marrying him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:58 AM
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I have a male coworker who has threatened and cursed out numerous other male coworkers. They’re all equal in the company hierarchy. He didn’t get punched even though we all agreed he deserved it. Men are quite often rude with no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:45 AM
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I live in a world where I expect people to know what we are talking about!!! I gotta start using this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:44 AM
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I’ve had my phone die on me plenty of times. The time wasn’t ever important at that point. I’m just trying to picture a setting where someone would be close enough to me to ask the time when the time isn’t displayed somewhere. For example on the train, the time is displayed. A bar, supermarket, work, doctors office, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:42 AM
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Beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:39 AM
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Where I’m from, someone asking you the time would be their attempt to see what kind of phone or watch you have. Now that I’m older and in a better area, I notice it’s always an attempt to talk. I usually still give the time or directions then put my headphones back in. Usually they get the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:38 AM
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In a civilized society, disrespect would not escalate to physical violence. Which is why I can curse you out without any consequences but you punching me is a crime. There’s a huge difference between someone ignoring you talking to them and physical violence. It’s not an appropriate reaction. A person also has the right to want to be left alone. You needing directions is not the responsibility of someone else. There’s no reason for them to answer you other than they want to help you. This is wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:34 AM
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I don’t see how that negates my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 06:03 PM
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Well, I’ll tell you why people lie. I tell the truth and get cursed out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:55 AM
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Except it doesn’t because the men OP is talking about are determined to get sex from the women who aren’t interested in them yet women are leaving the men who don’t want them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 08:49 AM
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I do find the thought appealing. I don’t suppress the urge because of societal views but because setting it up takes a lot of time and effort
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:34 PM
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Yeah it’s my fault. I should’ve realized that not everything deserves a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:03 PM
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Forearms are a very attractive part of the male body to me. There’s actually subreddit dedicated to it. I will admit that I am aroused by watching a mans forearm muscles move as he moves his hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:35 AM
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Am I supposed to deny that and prove my gender now?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:33 AM
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I didn’t say I was the rule and not the exception. The person I replied to told OP that they would have to date men in order to be desired sexually for his body as if there are no women who are like me. I am just saying that’s false.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 04:32 AM
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Don’t listen to this woman. There is no one size fits all. I’m a woman and I do get sexually excited by the look of a mans body. For me, it’s more so his genitals instead of his physique. But I am turned off by a pudgy looking body.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:45 PM
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I disagree with this. I, as a woman, do get sexually aroused by the look of a males body. I follow subs where men show their naked body because it arouses me. Yesterday at work, a male coworker was pulling up his pants and it showed a slight outline of his genitals. I was very aroused by this. So much so that I went home and masturbated to the thought. It is possible for a man to find a woman who is sexually excited by his body.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:41 PM
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Well, do you have the same luck with women? Do you get women without working on yourself? If you don’t but want women, then that means you have to put a little more effort. If women like you without any effort and you’re happy, then stay as you are.
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:51 AM
5

I don’t envy men at all. I do believe it is harder as a man to gain female attention than for a woman to gain male attention. I really don’t see any pros to being a male in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:32 AM
19

I find it more attractive when a man has not been with a lot of women. Bragging about a high body count isn’t only unattractive but it makes the man seem insecure to me. I’m just not compatible with anyone like that.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 04:19 AM
2

You lose my attention once you start with “you’re missing the point”. This lets me know him can’t effectively convey your point and instead want to put the blame on me.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 08:45 PM
2

This doesn’t apply. Today, we have sex for enjoyment. Not just for reproduction. Men who follow outdated rules will just have a harder time dating in the modern world. That’s all.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 08:14 PM
11

This whole thing about negotiating power doesn’t make sense to me. You don’t have to negotiate a relationship from a man. If he wants to be with you, he will. If he doesn’t, he won’t. How soon you have sex won’t change what he wants from you. If he sees you negatively after sex, then he never respected you in the first place. If you lose the ability to get a relationship from a man after having sex with him, then you never had it in the first place. Think about it. If he really wanted you, why w…
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 05:07 AM
3

I’ve had a home set up. I never got the same workout at home as I do at the gym. I feel more motivated and concentrated at the gym. When I’m home, I just want to relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:59 AM
4

I’m 5’10 and have a standard for men over 6’0 since that’s when I can notice a height difference between him and I. The only time I dropped my height preference was when I was really sexually frustrated. That tends to lower my standards. Once I have sex, my preferences go back to normal. In terms of a long term commitment, I can’t commit to someone below 6’0. I’d say once a guy is over 6’5 it all becomes the same. I once dated a man who was 6’8. I think he would’ve been just as attractive to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:15 AM
1

I have considered an OnlyFans. Like seriously considered it. But I don’t know if I’m creative enough to constantly come up with content. And I’m having a hard time finding a guy willing to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:07 AM
21

I think some women genuinely mean it when they say dick size doesn’t matter. Some women actually prefer smaller since larger will hurt them and they don’t enjoy that pain. It’s varies from woman to woman.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 04:45 AM
3

That’s not what I was talking about at all. I don’t know how to make my original comment any clearer. Are you sure you’re replying to the right person?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:39 PM
1

Ok, and?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:32 PM
2

Yeah that’s why I said “should”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:54 PM
2

If you go on to comprehend the rest of the comment after that one word, the real intent should become clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:51 PM
1

The word “newsflash” isn’t the same as “I disagree” or “you’re wrong because…”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:48 PM
0

Canceling on someone she isn’t interested in dating last minute is very rational. Are you arguing she should go on the date anyone just because it’s last minute?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:43 PM
1

The person you’re replying to never argued that women are attracted to most men they meet. And the comment explains why women can be flaky with men. I don’t think she’s disagreeing with women being flaky and then going on to explain why they are. I’m sure you can see how that’s a weird train of thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:38 PM
1

So what’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:22 PM
1

OP is saying women are flaky and gives an explanation as to why. This person confirms women are flaky because they’re not interested in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:13 PM
0

That’s not missing the point though. If anything, it confirms the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:12 PM
3

That piece by itself would be slightly to the side of the post. But with the rest of the comment, it is in line with the point of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:10 PM
4

For me, getting pregnant is scary. I am at a point in my life where a child wouldn’t be that big of a deal but pregnancy still scares me. Still that hasn’t stopped me from dating or having sex in the least. When meeting a stranger, I take precautions by meeting in a public place instead of going to his home. So, I can say for me if I am interested in a man, I will not set up obstacles or give excuses to not meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:08 PM
3

Her point is that if the woman is flaky then she’s not interested in you. Save time and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:04 PM
1

I think I take these things so personally because I place a lot of importance on not lying to myself so I can be happy. I always want the truth. So that’s why I always assume it’s me he didn’t want. Therefore most of my advice stems from the same place. I have also told men I wasn’t ready for a relationship when that wasn’t the truth. I just didn’t see a future with them. I’ve since stopped doing that; I don’t like being dishonest. Side note: what’s wrong with Imagine Dragons? I would’ve went 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:17 PM
1

Are you trying to argue that it’s not important to have looks when dating? I don’t understand the intent of this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:12 PM
1

No it isn’t the only factor. But someone attractive would have to do something wrong to mess up their chances. Whereas someone unattractive has to do a number of things really well just to get a chance. So it’s fair to argue that looks are the most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:19 PM
1

Ok, yes I agree. I’m sure there are some men and women who are just against commitment. I think I came across one guy who was just against commitment. But then I think that’s just an easier pill to swallow than believing that he just didn’t see me as someone he wanted to commit to. But I’ve also had a guy say he didn’t want commitment and was against relationships but then he ended up a committed relationship. I’ve seen this quite a few times actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:07 PM
1

Are you trying to argue that it’s not important to have looks when dating? I don’t understand the intent of this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:02 PM
2

An entitled child. I don’t like either option but I’ve seen too many people pleasers get used and taken advantage of. I can’t watch my child go through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:57 PM
1

So basically, men aren’t against commitment, they just know they don’t want it with certain women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 03:55 PM
2

No, it doesn’t impress me at all. If anything, it comes across as insecure. Why would he feel the need to announce it? Seeking approval and validation? It would also turn me off because how did you find so many people that meet your standards? It makes it seem like his standards are very low and he’ll sleep with anything. Someone like this isn’t for me.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 02:10 PM
2

I like this explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:41 AM
7

I have a good looking man that I have sex with in a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:01 AM
10

“Indoor plants” made me laugh. But I’m a woman. And I care about sex as much as men do. Might be in the minority but we’re out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:59 AM
2

As a woman, I would not want to trade places with a handsome man. I believe it’s harder for men to get “attractive privilege” than women. Based on what I’ve seen personally and heard on these subreddits and men in real life, it’s harder to get attention from the opposite sex as a man than it is as a woman. Being an average looking woman seems to come with many more privileges than being an average looking man. It might come with the same privileges as being a handsome man but with less work. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:58 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:49 PM
2

Not trying to get the last word or anything. Just wanted to say thanks also and have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:43 PM
2

I wouldn’t cheat. If he was someone who cheated on someone in the past for example. I wouldn’t commit to him. I’d have sex with him but I’d move on to someone else for long term commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:36 PM
1

This wouldn’t happen. If the sex with Mark was so much better, I wouldn’t stop seeing him to be with Dylan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:35 AM
1

I’m a lot different. This constitutes one thing I’m not willing to change. There are many other things about someone that can be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:09 PM
1

Yes I did it. I never said I didn’t do it. But that doesn’t change that the person I am today is who I am. I never said because I won’t admit it to him doesn’t mean I’m not the person who would do something. I also never said i wouldn’t do this again. If him and I broke up and I met a new man, I would see multiple men until one I really wanted asked for exclusivity. That’s how I date. I have become a better person. Not a different person. I have learned from errors in my past and made the necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:45 PM
2

I wouldn’t be in a committed relationship with mediocre sex because if I’m having mediocre sex, outside of a few exceptions, I’m not going to turn down the best sex I’ve ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:27 PM
1

Because this carefully manufactured person is who I am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:38 PM
1

Like I said, mediocre sex is better than no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:37 PM
1

That doesn’t say it’s great dick or sex. It’s sex, which is better than no sex. It apparently wasn’t good enough to keep her around since she dropped him for Dylan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:36 PM
1

Well you’re free to treat your partner however you wish. This is just my truth. Of course I do love him and care about him. And i trust him. I don’t doubt him at all. I just don’t want to share everything about myself with him so I won’t. I never will. He receives the version of myself that I choose to present to him because this is just who I have worked to become and this is who I want to be. So this is what people get. Him included.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:33 PM
1

This doesn’t say it’s great sex or great dick. If she’s like me, she wouldn’t have involved herself with Dylan if the sex with Mark was that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:59 AM
2

Then no. I’ll never leave good sex for a relationship without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:18 AM
3

This is true. Getting to know someone does make them more attractive. But it only works on certain men. I’m actually very curious why it will work for some but not for others. I’ve met men that I wasn’t initially attracted to but over time grew to like them because of their personality. Then there were men who I wasn’t attracted to who had great personalities but I still wouldn’t date or have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:13 AM
1

I do trust him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:04 AM
1

Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:51 AM
1

With good sex also, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:05 AM
1

For me, it would depend on what other factors about him made me not want a relationship with him. Some things can be overlooked for great sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:43 PM
1

Not telling him about what we did before I agreed to exclusivity isn’t not treating him well. I never asked him what he did before we were exclusive and he hasn’t told me. This is fine with me. He deserves to be with who he wants to be with. He chose me. So no I don’t believe he deserves better or worse. He deserves his choice. Yes, he found me to be satisfactory because I didn’t tell him this information. So? I admitted that this is a possibility. Of course I care about him. And of course I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:57 PM
1

I am saying that because you’re asking me why I’m doing something. You wanted an explanation so I gave that to you. Unless you want to just talk and me not respond, I don’t know what you’d expect. I didn’t deny that he was trying to prove himself to me. You kept leaving out the fact that he was also evaluating whether or not I was worthy. As for his efforts, no they weren’t unsatisfactory. Otherwise I would’ve left him. I never said having sex with other men proved loyalty. It’s just what I did.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:03 PM
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I’m not justifying anything. People have questions and I am offering insight. The purpose of this post from what I gather is to gain information on why people do certain things. And since it applies to me, I decided to offer what I know. He wasn’t just trying his hardest to convince me to be with him. He was also seeing if I was worthy of a relationship with him. Until he was sure of his decision, yes I kept other options open. I have no obligation to share this information with him. We weren’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:57 PM
1

I love him. I want him to be happy and I will do what I can to make sure he’s happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:31 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:21 PM
1

That’s not what you asked me though. You asked if I knew he was looking for those qualities and I thought those qualities go without saying since that’s what everyone says they’re looking for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:02 PM
1

No it’s not. Everyone says they’re looking for those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:56 PM
1

So you’re not really about it then…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:21 PM
1

Ok. So what’s up?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:14 PM
1

But there’s still a certain threshold I won’t go below.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:14 PM
2

New York City.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:11 PM
1

Height, dick size, bone structure, looks. Those are the things I use as a starting point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:11 PM
2

Well let’s get to it. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:09 PM
1

Well let’s see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:09 PM
1

Can you prove your superiority to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:05 PM
1

I didn’t think I needed to say things like that. I thought those would go without saying. I thought you were asking about more unique things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:02 PM
1

Still can’t explain your stance though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:48 PM
0

I like being insulted when I question someone’s opinion and they can’t defend it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:44 PM
1

Then that’s a different situation than what OP asked about. The guys that don’t get tossed away are the guys the woman wants. You can’t ignore the fact that there are men women don’t want but use for sex until they find what they really want. That is the situation OP asked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:29 PM
1

I don’t know about him. I was looking for someone who treats me well, sexual compatibility, and interest in a long term relationship with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:21 PM
1

Because he wasn’t just trying to prove himself to me. He was also evaluating whether or not I’m worth his love. He might just decide I’m not worth it and then I’m left with nothing. And I’m just not willing to be the person assed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:15 PM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:13 PM
1

Yet we established I didn’t cuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:05 PM
1

There was a post I saw that showed a cycle of a good man getting hurt by a hurt woman hurting a good woman who then goes on to hurt a good man. It’s true. That’s literally how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:05 PM
1

Exactly. That’s where things aren’t even. A woman can just announce she’s horny and there will be several options available immediately. I made a post on Craigslist seeking a hook up a few years back and had literally hundreds of replies of men willing to have sex that night. They were shocked I didn’t want money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:03 PM
1

Exactly. I don’t get hurt much anymore. I’m not going to say I don’t get hurt at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:01 PM
1

Oh ok so you just threw cuck in there because it has more of an impact than just “you lied”. I said I lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:00 PM
1

There are people who don’t care on both sides. Some people are just really good at hiding their true nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:58 PM
1

No. There are plenty of people who don’t play games. The absolute worse part of all this? The people who suffer are the ones who don’t play games.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:54 PM
1

Food is damn sure a need but people starve to death. Something being a need doesn’t guarantee you’ll get it. And I don’t lash out at men if they refuse to give it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:53 PM
1

So every man I had sex with prior was superior to my significant other because they fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:52 PM
1

I chose a truck driver over a man who came from generational wealth. I believe there are many women who don’t care about a man having a high status job as long as he isn’t a bum. Women can work and provide for themselves, so there are many who aren’t looking for someone to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:51 PM
1

The other guy wasn’t superior. Otherwise I’d still be fucking him. I never had sex with another man while in a relationship with another man. Doesn’t fit the definition of cuckhold.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:46 PM
1

Why can’t you verbalize how he’s being cucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:43 PM
2

I agree with this. Yes, women don’t understand that dating for men requires different tactics than women. But I’d also like to add that women have a hard time verbalizing what they actually want. This also sabotages a man when he takes her advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:42 PM
1

I’m used to people resorting to trolling when they’re unable to have an actual debate. It’s quite funny. What else you got?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:38 PM
1

It’s a skill we have developed over time. I assume it has to do something with women being the weaker of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:29 PM
1

If a woman sleeps with a man too soon, some men will write her off as too easy and not commit to her long time. So we pretend we aren’t easy to get the guys we want. You may feel fucked over but people are gonna do what they have to in order to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:28 PM
1

How am I cucking him if I’m only seeing him? You don’t get an answer to your question without also answering mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:24 PM
1

How am I cucking him if I’m only seeing him? You don’t get an answer to your question without also answering mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:23 PM
1

How am I cucking him when I’m only seeing him? I wouldn’t leave the man who is better in bed for someone who was worse. The guy I’m with is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:20 PM
1

Because I have decided it is a need for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:15 PM
1

I didn’t try to convince anyone I’m a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:13 PM
3

You’ve been the men. I have been the woman multiple times. And I am telling you Mark can not have it whenever he wants. Mark didn’t make the woman feel what she needed. That’s why she didn’t try to establish a relationship with him. That’s not how a woman behaves when she likes a man. She used Mark to meet her sexual needs and then got rid of him when she met someone she really wanted: Dylan.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:55 PM
1

I’m done with it at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:58 AM
1

Any man can give orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:53 PM
1

Well check back periodically for an update. I’ll bet you it won’t happen at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:30 PM
1

“The truth always comes out” is nonsense and it’s not going to work in scaring me into being up front about this. You can use this as a vetting tool. I see the logic. But I’m just not going to operate that way. I’ve always done this and not once has it ever come out. Not once lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:02 PM
2

This is why I said I wouldn’t wait that long to have sex with Dylan. Waiting months doesn’t make sense to me. But not having any sex doesn’t make sense to me either. I would keep a fuck buddy to make sure my sexual needs are met while searching for someone I see long term potential with. That’s the kind of guy Dylan is in this situation. Having my sexual needs met by a guy on the side doesn’t guarantee that a relationship is less likely to happen between myself and someone like Dylan. It just he…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:51 PM
7

Exactly this. They refuse to adapt to the changes in dating. They think being a provider should secure them a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:13 PM
2

I don’t know. I wouldn’t do that. I would’ve had sex with Dylan much sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:55 PM
1

If you ask someone why they do something, what do you want them to say then? Men making it clear they won’t commit to an easy woman is the reason women lie about these things. Many men are even aware of that and realize becoming more accepting of women sleeping around would make sex easier for men to get. You can call that gaslighting, an excuse, or whatever else you want, but that won’t change the fact that it’s reality. If the man I’m seeing wouldn’t leave because I was having sex with another…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:50 PM
1

Their logic is that a woman can’t settle for someone if they’re her equal. But I agree. If that’s not the person she wants, she is settling for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:38 PM
2

Exactly!! And lmao at the “almost took my nipple off” 😂😂😂😂. I think this is what most guys don’t understand. Most women aren’t that rigid and are willing to work with him during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:06 PM
2

👌
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:53 PM
1

No I would not tell him. I do not think he was seeing other women when we were dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:51 PM
2

Ok then don’t. I don’t give advice. Some men in here were confused about why women do certain things so I’m offering straightforward insight. No bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:48 PM
1

Yes I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:47 PM
1

It is sneaky. Why not tell Dylan? Because obviously he would be upset and most likely leave. It is just sex but you’re showing me you wouldn’t understand and this is why we have to be sneaky about it. He didn’t have to prove himself worthy of the pussy. He was worthy of it. She just wanted to build more than just a sexual relationship with him. So she didn’t lead with that. I’m not dancing around anything. I’m telling you the reality of the situation and you’re trying to argue it and deny it. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:46 PM
1

We’re good. He took me to meet his family half way across the country a couple weeks ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:37 PM
1

So then don’t commit. I can’t force men to commit or want commitment. Like I said, make your own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:35 PM
1

I think people should make their own decisions. This is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:29 PM
1

I didn’t say it was ok. I just said this is what happens and explained the logic behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:29 PM
1

I know what you’re getting at. I am simply more concerned with my own happiness. That’s just the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:26 PM
1

I didn’t say I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:25 PM
1

No. I was saying hypothetically, if it was possible to know that Dylan was being honest and interested in a relationship with me, I would’ve stopped seeing Mark. But in the real world, I stop seeing Mark the minute I know Dylan is interested in something long term with me. I don’t keep fucking Mark because I’m more interested in Dylan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:22 PM
1

I said I would do the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:18 PM
1

Because I don’t like the idea of the man I’m interested in having sex with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:18 PM
1

And it’s possible that he never finds out. Like I said, im not saying it’s right but it’s just what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:12 PM
1

Am I ok with it? No. But I accept that it’s reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:11 PM
1

That’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:05 PM
1

I didn’t say I was honest. I admitted to lying. I lie because being honest doesn’t get me what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:03 PM
1

If he was fully honest with me about his intentions, I wouldn’t have kept fucking Mark. I would’ve had sex with Dylan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:01 PM
1

It’s worked better than telling the truth and getting nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:01 PM
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Why would I be upset that I didn’t get what I wanted? I don’t know how to explain that. But that’s just how I work. I have never been happy to not get what I want lol. Sure I could keep having sex with my fuck buddy but the goal is to attain more. Now I have to start over with someone new. It requires more from me. Yes, my partners happiness is very important to me. I also want them to trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:48 PM
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She felt that she wouldn’t get caught. We almost never get caught. We are used to eating our cake and having it too. If women got caught more often and faced consequences then your logic would be correct. In these situations and how they play out, your logic doesn’t apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:46 PM
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I’ll tell you this, if I knew a guy was being honest with me then I would give him the same thing. I prefer to be honest. But I’ve found being honest doesn’t always get me what I want. So sometimes I have to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:45 PM
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Unfortunately. It would be better if everyone would just be straightforward but we don’t have that. So everyone has to play a game.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:42 PM
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OP asked a question. I figured the point was to offer insight. Of course I’d be upset if it doesn’t work out. The goal is for it to work out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:41 PM
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I will comeback to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:35 PM
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Sorry. I don’t do sugar coated lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:23 PM
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I didn’t say he needed to prove he can offer sex in a relationship. I don’t even know where you got that from. She is going to prove she can provide loyalty in a relationship. That’s why she stopped seeing Mark. There is no relationship before exclusivity is established. She has no reason before that to stop seeing Mark. If I want a relationship and a man says he isn’t ready, I stop talking to him. I wouldn’t wait. I didn’t say him not finding out about Mark makes her having sex with him right. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:23 PM
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False. She doesn’t want Mark. If she did, she would’ve tried to get him to commit long before Dylan.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:18 PM
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After two weeks of him not asking as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:18 PM
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Let’s say Mark doesn’t want her long term and just wants sex from her. Does that change her motives? Because that’s what OP is asking about: her motives. In fact, wouldn’t it be a win win if both of them are happy with the arrangement and no one feels taken advantage of? Women ask for relationships from the men they want. There are a lot of men women don’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:17 PM
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I asked about women but you’re telling me what the media says…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:15 PM
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Dylan isn’t expendable. That’s why she gave up Mark for him lol it’s really not that complicated. Mark offers a percentage of what she wants. She’s taking that until she get someone who offers it all. She gets that with Dylan. The risk of Dylan finding out about Mark is so low, even I would gamble on that. And I’m not a betting woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:14 PM
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The reality is I am easy lol. I want sex. But men say they don’t want to commit to women who are easy and have sex at their will. So we have to pretend to get what we want. If men were more accepting of women who sleep around then there would be no need for these lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:12 PM
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That’s a nice Disney fairytale. Every single relationship has lies at its foundation. Every single one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:11 PM
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I never argued against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:10 PM
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Ok. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:10 PM
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Mark isn’t the guy she wants. It doesn’t matter how hard he works when her mind is already made up. Now, if she got desperate after not finding a guy she really wants, she might take Mark. But she will always take a man she wants more if he came along. Whether she cheats or just leaves Mark depends on who she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:09 PM
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Yes, that’s what I’m saying I would lie about. I know there are men who would prefer honesty but it’s just not something i would ever admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:08 PM
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Sex can be nothing more. Sex isn’t always an intimate act. We have hormones which cause urges and sometimes we act on them. That’s it. Hook up culture proves sex can be just sex and nothing more. It’s just how it is for some people. I never said she didn’t want Mark around. She wanted a hard dick and he provided that. That’s it. She let him go when she got more of what she wanted from Dylan. She chose to have sex with Mark. She didn’t choose Mark over Dylan. She literally did the exact opposite.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:08 PM
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I agree. But for me, base knowledge is just knowing the penis goes in the vagina and you need to use your mouth sometimes lmao. This guy who had been with a lot of women would suck too hard and it hurt. I think I also got lucky with inexperienced guys. I’ve been with virgin men. Two of them were hung as fuck and very gentle. I didn’t know I liked that as well until I met them. I guess I just look at sex positively and try not to be overly critical of my partner. I
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:53 PM
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I disagree. I think women with that rigid of a standard regarding a mans sexual past are in the minority. I’m not saying a man has to be a virgin to be more appealing. I’m just saying it doesn’t hurt. Many women will tell you they won’t be turned off by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:46 PM
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That’s fair. I am just used to having to tell a man how to touch this, lick that, or suck this. Even the experienced ones. So I guess I just assume it’s the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:44 PM
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The only thing that can’t be fixed is penis size. I will leave over that. Everything else can be worked on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:42 PM
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I’m not disagreeing with that. You’re absolutely right. And I understand why you’d feel that way. And you’re right, women know men would leave if they found these things out, which exactly why no woman you’re seeing would ever let you know these things. It is sneaky. That’s just the reality of dating. Everyone is out for themselves. As a woman who engages in this behavior, I won’t cheat on a guy like Dylan, but I wouldn’t risk losing regular sex until I’m sure he’s willing to provide that to me …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:41 PM
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Dylan wouldn't see it as oh she just needed a release he would see it as her picking Mark over Him because that's exactly what she did. She picked him for sex. Nothing more. She picked Dylan for a long term relationship which includes sex. I don’t agree with how long she waited to have sex with Dylan. I wouldn’t have waited that damn long. But no, this isn’t her picking Mark over Dylan. She let go of Mark for Dylan. She won’t let go of Dylan for Mark. She had Mark first, didn’t pursue exclusivit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:35 PM
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Wrong. Another post taught me that women don’t speak up and tell men what they need to do differently that often. Ive been with men who have slept around a lot and I’ve taken a few V cards as well. There is no significant difference between those men. They all needed to know how to please me one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:23 PM
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You’re taking a very clear scenario and adding your own pieces. You want to believe what you want to believe. Yet I am a woman who has done this and what I’m saying is absolutely true. You can try and say it’s false all you want, it still is fact. Simple undeniable facts women will use men for sex and want nothing more. women will sleep with a lesser attractive man to get needs met while pursuing a more attractive man without sex before commitment. Women do this because they don’t want the new g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:21 PM
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That’s not the point. There was a question that I am answering honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:15 PM
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Yes it does include hook ups and FWB. I’m admitting that I would just lie in this situation. If things go further then I know I would end things with a fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:11 PM
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I would say women who want men who have slept around is in the minority. You’re forgetting that having a lot of sexual partners doesn’t guarantee useful knowledge. Women know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:10 PM
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What is left off in this scenario is if Jenny was actually trying to get an exclusive relationship with Mark and simply failed. Wrong. The scenario specifically said she proposed a fuck buddy situation to Mark. Dylan in this case while the same height likely isn't deemed by her as someone other women want hence the waiting game. False. Dylan is more attractive to her. And that’s why she’s trying to present herself in a way that she thinks is more appealing to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:09 PM
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Yes, as I said, we aren’t all the same. My intent here is to show men that there isn’t always a need to sleep around to gain experience as there are women who don’t care about that. As another commenter said, “an inexperienced man who is teachable is more appealing than an experienced man who thinks he knows everything”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:06 PM
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Exactly. The person I’m replying to wants to dismiss this altogether for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:47 PM
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So you’re telling me what I find more attractive? You’re telling me what it is that I want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:46 PM
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And he got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:45 PM
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Do women actually say this? I’m genuinely asking because for me, it isn’t a red flag at all. A man who doesn’t sleep around actually has some appeal now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:45 PM
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And you’re just wrong. I see your logic but it just doesn’t apply in this situation. That’s not how a woman in this situation is thinking. I am admitting to you and everyone else on this post that I am a woman who has done this and still does and I am explaining the logic behind it. A woman will not have sex with a man she really wants too quickly because she doesn’t want to end up having a sex-only type of relationship with him. She wants commitment and exclusivity. So she will wait to have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:43 PM
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I do have experience with this. This is something I do, with the exception of how long she waited to have sex with Dylan. That was too long in my opinion. I would tell him I’m not seeing anyone else. I wouldn’t see that question as a red flag. It would actually make me think higher of the man. I would be even more interested in being with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:39 PM
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women need to understand that sex is important. Women fully understand sex is important. That doesn’t mean she’s going to have sex when the man wants it though. If she found Dylan more attractive she wouldn't have made him wait she would be focus on only him. I am a woman and I am telling you this is false. She has sexual needs and was using Mark to get those needs met while she kept her image clean for Dylan. She’s not going to have sex with Dylan too quickly because his opinion on her is impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:36 PM
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I don’t remember saying it’s horrible to be the first guy. There was a question in the post which I answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:29 PM
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So she didn’t propose commitment or exclusivity to either one. She’s probably the passive type in a relationship. But like you said, if she’s really attracted, she would ask for exclusivity or commitment. She asked for FWB with Mark and left him available for other women to have. She wouldn’t do that if she was really attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:37 AM
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Lasting 1-2 minutes has nothing to do with being a virgin or inexperienced. I’ve run into older and more experienced men who have that issue as well. Not knowing how to be dominant or play certain roles can be taught. It’s not that hard. Then there’s the chance that women the experienced guy has been with don’t share the same desires and needs as me. We’re not all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:10 AM
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No. I genuinely don’t care. In fact, discussing my sexual preferences turns me on and makes sex with the man more likely. The only preference I have is not dealing with men who don’t like to have a conversation about how they can better please their woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:02 AM
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She stopped seeing Mark after Dylan asked for exclusivity though…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:46 AM
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Then why isn’t she trying to be exclusive with him? And why get rid of him for exclusivity with Dylan?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:44 AM
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As a woman, there’s nothing wrong with a sexually inexperienced man as long as he is willing to learn. I have no problem telling my partner how to please me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:43 AM
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False. She’s fucking Mark but not trying to get him to stick around or even be exclusive. If she found him more attractive, she would have tried to keep him exclusively. She’s using him to fulfill her sexual needs while she searches for a guy that she really wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:41 AM
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Jenny likes Dylan and is attracted to him more than Mark. I’m a woman and I’ve been here. I don’t know about other women but here’s my logic. The more I like a guy, the more I want him to stick around. I won’t want him to think that I sleep around easily since it seems men don’t like that about women. So I’ll wait a bit. Men that I don’t have a connection with or don’t find that attractive matter much less to me. I don’t care if they think I’m easy or I sleep around. I’m just using them to fulfi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:38 AM
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The article offers the explanation that women are comparing their careers to other women and are feeling that they don’t measure up. I’m not seeing anything suggesting that this has anything to do with women being happier as wives and mothers. It’s also more socially acceptable to take care of mental health issues instead of pretending they don’t exist. Maybe women aren’t less happy but are more open to expressing that they aren’t happy in an effort to solve it. But there are studies that show w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:23 AM
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That article doesn’t show that women want to get married and have children. That article doesn’t explain if these were planned pregnancies or just oopsies that never got terminated. There’s no denying that birth and marriages rates have been steadily declining over the last 50 years. I’m not googling anything. You make your point on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:59 AM
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Really what? That article you posted doesn’t contradict what I said. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:57 AM
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Most women want to get married and have children. Where are the stats that show that this is what most women want? And the ones that do now have to balance motherhood with career. And they're less happy. Where are the stats that show women who now have to balance motherhood and a career are less happy? After that, where are the stats that show why they are -if at all- less happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:04 PM
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Yet statistics prove otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:01 PM
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Men can’t put 2 and 2 together and realize that women would rather struggle financially than marry a man strictly for financial reasons. A stable income is just a normal adult thing to have. It’s not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:43 AM
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As a woman, this couldn’t be more wrong for me. Having children and raising them would make me significantly less happy than I am. Lacking regular sex and companionship is what would make me stressed out. Being a “career man” doesn’t create a conflict with what I desire to be happy. The increase of child free women would suggest that many women agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:39 AM
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Where are the stats that prove men are more satisfied than women? I can only speak on my own observation on this since I don’t have any stats but I see constantly that men are having less sex and are complaining quite a bit more than their fathers and grandfathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:32 AM
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As a woman, this isn’t always true. If a man is hot enough, all he has to do is not talk himself out of sex. He could say nothing and I’d still want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:35 PM
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By that logic, I’m sure you can find something good enough to be a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:25 PM
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So then it would be an unfalsifiable claim since my view is based on my own experiences. It’s just been further confirmed by other women sharing the same experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:45 AM
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Yet I didn’t try to negate your view with something that only works on paper and doesn’t translate to real life. I’m not just going to agree with you to show you that I’m open minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:39 AM
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I am a woman lol. Numbers in a hypothetical situation don’t negate my real world experiences as a woman. For some reason you think all “thirty options” available to women are suitable yet your three aren’t. If dating was as simple as your mathematical equation, women wouldn’t be walking away from it. It’s hard to argue that more options don’t hurt when it just gives you more of what you’re trying to avoid. Would it make you happier to have ten more of the women you gave as an example of what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:32 AM
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When you said 70 or 7 were time wasters, I thought that meant eliminating the ones you would have no interest in. As a woman, I can tell you those extra 27 matches mean nothing. Numbers look good on paper but just do not translate to the real world when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:18 AM
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So it’s not that you have no options. It’s just that you have less than the average woman and want the same amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:07 AM
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So if there are women wasting your time then you have the same type of options we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:48 AM
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Not a good comparison. Being poor comes with a lot more problems than being single and not having people throw themselves at you. But let’s use your comparison. There’s a reason people remove certain ads from their options than others. They’re not interested for whatever reason. If you asked those people, I’d bet they say they would’ve preferred to have never gotten on the list to receive those ads rather than having to use their time and effort to unsubscribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:35 AM
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It does take effort to avoid in comparison to no one trying to waste your time… Why would I withdraw from dating when I am looking for someone? And even so, removing myself from dating won’t stop men from approaching me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:24 AM
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The same options I have to exert energy to avoid are removed from you without you having to do anything. If I choose wrong, I have to deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:16 AM
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It’s easy for a woman to find a boyfriend but he might not be a good boyfriend. I think this is part of what men don’t understand about dating as a woman. You said you’d rather fish in a larger pond than a smaller pond, but more options can lead to more aggravation, time wasted, and even danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:20 AM
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They’re probably just taking their chances with anyone.
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