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Marriage/ChildrenWelshWizard82/r/MensRights15/09/22 10:56 AM
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FeminismWelshWizard82/r/MensRights16/10/22 12:25 PM
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Marriage/ChildrenWelshWizard82/r/MensRights07/09/22 06:27 AM
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All I can say here is can you imagine the Outrage if this was the other way around and a man did what the woman has done here? I'm going to put my neck on the line and say even if it was men that carried a child the.way this woman has acted wouldn't cause half as much stir if other way around. Let's make it clear, if you woke up and she was on you having sex and you didn't say yes, that IS 100% RAPE
/r/MensRights25/10/22 02:55 PM
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Speaking from experience keep on to her until you know she has taken it and get proof, not just a receipt or picture of empty packaging (wish I did) It only takes one time to get someone pregnant even from a ONS and TRUST ME you don’t want that. IF she comes at you saying she’s pregnant, which she may well do sorry to worry you, then you 100% demand a paternity test, don’t sign anything, don’t agree to anything, don’t meet her in person or speak on the phone, get everything on message and screen…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 10:25 AM
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Outcome is irrelevant, the fact that discussion has taken place and both sides have put across their feelings is fair so both know their position on it. Man could have a severe genetic disorder, woman doenst tell him she's having a baby, she's unaware what harm could be coming to that baby.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 02:25 PM
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For exactly the reasons I wrote out above and have done several times
/r/MensRights16/10/22 06:44 PM
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I think the father should be consulted without a doubt that’s morally correct. It is only right and fair to hear what they think of the situation and alternatively if keeping baby any health issues on father side that could be passed down. Also I think in a fair society if the father hasn’t been consulted and mother is keeping it there should be a choice for father to waive any responsibility emotionally and financially if not in a relationship
/r/MensRights16/10/22 06:11 PM
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Ok you’re in a car with another person then…. Again, and I’m sick of saying this, the issue is with the mother not DISCUSSING abortion with the man that made the baby. That is the argument. NOT if the person has one or not. Stop trying to rework it to suit your agenda. Morally it’s wrong. End of.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 05:51 PM
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In what sense?
/r/MensRights16/10/22 05:32 PM
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That's what I said, me tally it can effect a man. Would you complain if you went in a car, had a crash and the seatbelt failed? Or would you be, oh well I knew there was a chance that could happen.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 05:04 PM
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Again, it's not the choice to keep or abort that's the issue and subject here, it's the fact decisions are getting made WITHOUT the father being Involved.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 05:02 PM
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It doesn’t work like that, contraception can fail, none is 100% safe and accidents happen. Saying never have penetrative sex is silly also if you’re in a loving relationship. No you clearly said abortion ONLY effects women and it’s 100%their decision. Which is wrong. Totally wrong
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:45 PM
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It's not though is it? Physically yes, mentally no, what if that man really wanted a child and this was his only chance and then he found out the chance to work it through was denied? What if the woman decided to keep it but the father just could no way afford child support, it would bankrupt him, out him on the street, cause all sorts of problems but he couldn't get his point across until this was too late? It's morally wrong and totally unfair. Saying the woman is the only one effected is terr…
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:27 PM
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It’s not about if abortion happens or not, it’s the fact that a woman can make that Choice and not even discuss it with the man who is 50% responsible for that baby. It’s so wrong
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:13 PM
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But when born it is still the man's responsibility for life and will still be effected. Again i will state, this isn't about if a man can force a woman to abort/keep , it's about a woman making a decision without even speaking to the other half that helped create it. That is wrong on every level
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:55 PM
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We all know it wouldn't be the same, it would be something like "well women help make babies too, their voice should be heard" It's not at who's fault, it's about the pregnant party not consulting with the other half that made the baby. It's about them being selfish and making a decision on what to do without input. It's morally wrong and horrifically unfair
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:42 PM
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You're telling me. The person that was arguing with has either blocked me or been removed from the sub. Think I'll leave there too.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 02:17 PM
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I'm having a debate with someone on it who has added that the OP is domestically abused and at risk for murder(absolutely no mention of that by the OP btw) as to why men shouldn't be told if the woman is having an abortion
/r/MensRights16/10/22 01:54 PM
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Tell me you haven’t read a thread without telling me you haven’t read a thread. You’re a troll. Bye
/r/MensRights16/10/22 01:23 PM
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Great shout that
/r/MensRights16/10/22 12:54 PM
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Because there is a child out there you have made and have nothing to do with. Yes you don’t want to be a father but it’s an awful weight to carry around
/r/MensRights16/10/22 12:53 PM
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My issues is they abort babies without telling the father or give him a chance to consult. Morally wrong BUT Totally fine to chase the father for 18 years of child support. Yup that's fine to do that. Society is fucked
/r/MensRights16/10/22 12:40 PM
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Just because the top agree, read the rest
/r/MensRights16/10/22 12:33 PM
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Even worse when the pregnant woman says you're 100% the father (despite dating a guy at the time you had sex with her once) but refuses to a legally binding DNA test at birth!
/r/MensRights16/10/22 09:25 AM
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The same thing that doesn't stop a random woman accusing a man of fathering a child and him then being forced to do a DNA test (at his own expense) or refusing then be forced to pay child support for 18 years
/r/MensRights10/10/22 10:55 AM
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Haven't even heard of this trial and it's not a million miles from where I live. Says it all really. If other way around it would be on the news constantly, women having vigils, some pointless hashtag trending on twitter etc
/r/MensRights08/10/22 12:40 PM
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Morals I guess
/r/MensRights07/10/22 07:31 AM
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Agree try telling that to society though...
/r/MensRights06/10/22 09:18 PM
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Would you class the above as deadbeat dad would you say?
/r/MensRights06/10/22 09:03 PM
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It makes me so angry. My could completely change and I have no say and painted to be the bad guy Even if other way around, I wanted the baby but she aborted I'd still be the bad guy. It's enough to make you want to just end it all
/r/MensRights06/10/22 08:38 PM
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I've noticed this a lot during my current situation I'm going through. All my fault a woman has got pregnant (no proof it's mine and she's refusing DNA test) Apparently I should trust her, learn safe sex and have sympathy to this woman. The DMs of abuse I'm getting off women on here too
/r/MensRights19/09/22 01:38 PM
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Christ knows what has happened tbh. 2 things in my head are an explanation 1: Baby is mine but she genuinely wants to do it alone, morally felt that she had to tell me but was hoping I wouldn't hence saying she doesn't want anything off me and I can walk away OR knowing refusing a DNA test will mean I walk away. 2: Baby isn't mine, wanted me as the "father" she's crapped herself when I mentioned DNA and realised she wouldn't be able to get away with it so has now herself walked away. But yes, if…
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:45 AM
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Absolutely certain. IF she decides to tell the courts I am the father and try claim child support then the only way to prove it as it was a ONS is a paternity test which I have no problem taking and seeing what happens. It's her that refuses the test. If she carries on like that then no child maintenance. I won't be having anything to do with the child or any contact with her until she agree to a paternity test
/r/MensRights16/09/22 05:52 PM
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But do you still have to pay child support? (This isn't me planning on moving to Germany btw)
/r/MensRights16/09/22 12:17 PM
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Is this true? Do you have any links please?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 10:47 AM
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Apologies, I missed the point saying “if she claims it” As you rightly say, that’s when a dna test will happen which I asked for but she refused. The only way she will be able to get anything out of me is if she agrees to a dna test.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 09:38 AM
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I do agree with this a lot. Until this whole nightmare started I was completely unaware of all these issues. You should see the direct messages I’ve had off angry women here on Reddit since posting this thread. I genuinely don’t see how I’m in the wrong
/r/MensRights16/09/22 09:06 AM
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Indeed. 1st and last time I’ve been this stupid. I’m of the opinion that she may have already had sex before me and got pregnant due to her telling me she had met a holiday romance at his AND initially telling me a different date for her last period/how far along she was. Didn’t even know how long her periods last either…
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:52 AM
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We did not, and I know a huge mistake. She took the morning after Pill which seems to have failed…
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:28 AM
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Incorrect. Here in UK you are only presumed father if married or living with partner. Neither of those an issue. Only way I am presumed father is if named on BC (which I won’t be as you have to be present for it) or a DNA test, which she is refusing to do
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:16 AM
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Yes I do get the impression and feeling this is far from the end of things but until she agrees to a paternity test then the power is in my hands. She can’t get anything from me until that point
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:14 AM
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She had made her decision to keep it, she was 10 weeks in when she told me, having know from about 7 weeks herself
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:12 AM
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Without the paternity test here in the uk she would get nothing from me.
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:11 AM
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It’s a question I ask myself. As mentioned earlier, I get the impression she wants to be a single mum and do it by herself and wanted me to say no involvement
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:10 AM
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I won’t have to pay a thing or have any involvement until a paternity test is done
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:08 AM
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I presume your daughter was in a relationship with the father?
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:07 AM
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Again, not here in UK. Different laws
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:06 AM
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The court would assume im the father if I refused a DNA test and I’d have to pay child support. To clarify, it’s her refusing the test. I do agree about me not having a choice, I know I played my stupid part but society makes it sound like she had no say in it, which is obviously completely not true. I do,think for one night stand accidents like this there should be some different law
/r/MensRights16/09/22 08:05 AM
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Thank you, that's comforting to hear
/r/MensRights15/09/22 10:37 PM
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Exactly this. I think I’d be more devastated about bonding with a child and then them leave and me being unable to do anything as they aren’t mine. Just a strange position to be put in.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 09:20 PM
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Wow that’s crazy. Did all the dates add up for it being you too? Did you have doubts or just went for dna test knowing it wasn’t you?
/r/MensRights15/09/22 07:59 PM
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Correct
/r/MensRights15/09/22 07:55 PM
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Thanks, I’m in the uk so no child support until it’s proven by dna test. I think the fact she refuses a dna test is the answer to my question
/r/MensRights15/09/22 07:45 PM
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Not at all, I appreciate any advice. Thank you
/r/MensRights15/09/22 07:15 PM
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Already told her I'd cover the cost of it, even said "I'm not saying you're lying, this is for my own peace of mind" Still it was no I'm not doing it.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 06:52 PM
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No I'm saying if it did turn out to be my child...
/r/MensRights15/09/22 06:26 PM
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Agreed. My mindset is trying to stay in the zone of me not being the father until proven and hoping she will stick to her word and let me be. Not sure how I’d feel if I ever bumped into her with the baby and if I’d think what if? But I’ve done all I can, morally I think I’m ok here?
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:20 PM
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Thanks. Definitely keeping a record, I worked in law for 11 years, I am keeping everything on message so I can keep a record etc
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:18 PM
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Not in uk no, just from date the claim is made and only if proved to be the father Might be different if married though but not sure on that one
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:17 PM
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Also thought this too (brought up my little brother and been a father figure to him) and possibly thinking that I'm a nice enough guy just to accept it
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:09 PM
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You're telling me, and tbh if it turns out it's all been a lie and trying to plant it on me then I'm going to be scarred for life with women. I'd never trust one ever again
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:08 PM
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Not like that here in the UK buddy
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:06 PM
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Agreed with that, although there is literally nothing she can do/claim from me until paternity is proved from a DNA test
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:49 PM
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In UK a father can't be named on the BC without being present (otherwise any tom dick or Harry would be getting put on them) I won't be present there as no real proof I'm the father For me to pay child support then she will have to prove I am the father (as not married) by having a DNA/Paternity test, which is is refusing to do. If she agrees to it and I am the father then I'd only have to pay from the date she made the claim/I was proved to be father.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:48 PM
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And walk away from a potential child?
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:36 PM
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As mentioned earlier, her actions strongly suggest to me that I am not the father
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:35 PM
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Thank you. I just wanted to put it here to make sure I wasn't going crazy with mt stance and was asking for too much
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:34 PM
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Exactly this
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:33 PM
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Thankfully it's here in UK. Only way she can claim anything is with a DNA test (which she refuses) as not married/living together there is no assumption I am the father
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:32 PM
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100% no chance of that happening
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:28 PM
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Father can't go on it unless he's present. Not going anywhere near signing it until paternity test
/r/MensRights15/09/22 04:27 PM
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I don't want a child though 😂 especially one from a ONS
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:19 PM
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Exactly. It just all seems so odd tbh. Not sure what she’s going to tell people about the father, people will immediately think it’s mine as our ONS was the butt of all jokes
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:08 PM
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Thank you. TBH I’m not sure, going off her crazy actions and flat out refusal for a dna test if it’s even worth pursuing. Her actions tell me it’s likely not mine Here in uk I believe she will have to prove I’m the father 1st with a dna test, which she is refusing so it’s a no win for her
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:52 PM
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That’s what I’m thinking / hoping too. That this other guy is married or has a hell of a lot more to lose in his life than I. Would make sense why straight away she said she wouldn’t want anything from me if I decided not to play a part. Most in this situation would be the opposite and demand money right?
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:49 PM
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In situations like this I totally agree.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:17 PM
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I get the feeling being a single mum is exactly what she has wanted from the off
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:05 PM
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Uk here
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:05 PM
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My thoughts too. My mum was a single parent and had to go through all this, she was trying to get a DNA test from the father and he was refusing. Very telling imo
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:05 PM
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Yup done all that, everyhting has been screenshot, backed up locally and to the cloud
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:04 PM
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Unfortunately that's not an option as move in same circles occasionally/ mutual friends
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:03 PM
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I'm from the UK so I think it's different here
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:01 PM
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Only has to dna if goes through the court, even then father has to be there to go on birth certificate
/r/MensRights13/09/22 07:46 AM
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The father has to be present here in uk for that to happen
/r/MensRights11/09/22 08:57 AM
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Only if you’re named father on babies birth certificate can they take money but yes, if court forces you for dna test then you do have to pay
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:32 PM
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Pipe dream that I think mate, if it was other way around and woman accusing a male then they would lap it up, but not when it comes to men…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 08:28 PM
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Think it’s different here in uk, if you’re not on birth certificate then you don’t have a say / pay anything. Only a DNA test by the uk courts can get you on there
/r/MensRights07/09/22 08:27 PM
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Seriously? I really can’t see that working at all…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 08:22 PM
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You get that in the UK?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:29 PM
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But then could still change her mind down the line and overrule it?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:28 PM
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Long wait for that unfortunately
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:01 PM
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Great to hear you’re ok too, I hit 40 this year and all good with that tbh. Thanks for your kind words. I do worry I come across heartless in my posts but I can’t help how I feel and need to be honest
/r/MensRights07/09/22 04:01 PM
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Thanks. Also grew up,without a father and didn’t bother me in the slightest, in fact I love the bond I have with my mother from it but realise everyone is different
/r/MensRights07/09/22 03:29 PM
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Thank you, don’t worry I have screen shot all convos so far and backed them up twice over. I know for an absolute fact she visited a guy she met on holiday a couple of weeks before we had a sex.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 03:02 PM
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I know right? I even asked how long her cycle was so I could perhaps work out her ovulation but she said she didn’t know. She offered to send a picture of the packaging and receipt of the pill but I declined as I trusted her. There is no chance of me having a relationship with her, she won’t force me, no chance at all. As for paying, yes she can do that here in uk if I’m on birth certificate, again, can’t be forced on that unless court make me do a dna test. I really don’t want it to come down t…
/r/MensRights07/09/22 02:23 PM
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Can that even happen in the uk?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 02:19 PM
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Same here mate, both me and her are on same page that neither want a relationship though. How did it come out to your family? Did you tell them because of you or was it forced upon you sorta thing?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 01:56 PM
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Ok thanks. We’re you torn with what to do and how was the burden keeping it a secret? Did it play on your mind every day or did it slowly fade away for you
/r/MensRights07/09/22 01:43 PM
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Thanks for advice mate, tbh the payment isn’t bugging me more now, it’s the fact of not wanting to be a father. Did you have to back date the payment or was it from the date she applied? I presume you kept it quiet from everyone, how did they react when they found out? Did you live in close proximity to the family?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 01:37 PM
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Totally understand that, I know it takes 2 to tango but she had 1 way out to just have a coil put in afterwards but she told me I was stressing her and to leave it.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 11:58 AM
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But if I pay, I’ve worked out what’s expected by law from a father who doesn’t see the child, I’d get by ok
/r/MensRights07/09/22 11:28 AM
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She's adamant she's keeping it, she's told her mother, she is making her decision based on being a single parent with no help.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 10:03 AM
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I'd love to have kids with someone I'm in love with. Currently single, no kids, no siblings with kids.
/r/MensRights07/09/22 09:16 AM
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Copper IUD, it stops implementation. You have 5 days after sex to get it fitted for it to take effect
/r/MensRights07/09/22 08:26 AM
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I mean it should make me want to "step up to the plate" even more but... It isn't, as bad as that sounds. Not having a father around hasn't bothered me in the slightest. Ever
/r/MensRights07/09/22 07:48 AM
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My "father" did the same to her havign me and walked out. Which makes it even tougher...
/r/MensRights07/09/22 07:31 AM
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The news would break her heart if it got out and found I hid a grandchild from her
/r/MensRights07/09/22 07:30 AM
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Ok, and what about lying to my mum and keeping that from her?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 07:14 AM
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And what if say 12 months in she starts struggling and tells everyone I'm the dad and wants payment ?
/r/MensRights07/09/22 06:51 AM
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