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Thanks, you really do sound like you want to have a polite conversation by telling me to "Go fucking die." I did not call you a pimp. I said your viewpoint that you had previously expressed in your post, which is: "My point is there's really no way to handle disputes in a civilized way if you're dealing with someone who's outside the law. Say a hooker won't leave and is loudly causing trouble somehow. Are you going to call the cops to remove her, and explain why she was there in the first place?…
/r/MensRights09/03/11 02:25 AM
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So your point is that since you'd get in legal trouble for hiring a hooker, you should be able to hit them to get what you want? I suppose your viewpoint must be shared by johns, because the murder rate of prostitutes is rather high. But since they're just hookers, who cares, amirite? It's not like they're people.
/r/MensRights09/03/11 12:19 AM
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What the crack are you talking about?
/r/MensRights08/03/11 07:12 PM
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Sex workers = general term beyond just prostitutes. (I.e pornstars)* But, if you insist. Stupid, privileged prostitutes! You should hit them! *edited
/r/MensRights07/03/11 05:35 PM
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Okay, okay, I get it, women are all just shallow bitches, whereas you are the paragon of nobility and righteousness. Dude, seriously, if you stopped hating women for like one minute, your life might be a bit less annoying. I can't imagine how draining it would be to hate half of the world's population all the time.
/r/MensRights07/03/11 07:04 AM
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Which means you should hit them, amirite!!! Stupid, privileged sex workers!
/r/MensRights07/03/11 06:53 AM
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No, the fact that he'd claim that women who attempt suicide are posting about it on facebook intentionally paints them as superficial drama queens.
/r/MensRights04/03/11 07:30 AM
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Women have always used sexual manipulation and social shame to control men. Aaaand there you have it folks, all women manipulate men, so sayeth trollking. I really don't see the point of arguing with you when you're convinced that women are all conniving bitchez, whereas generalizing all men as skeezebags would be, y'know wrong.
/r/MensRights04/03/11 06:52 AM
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Deny? I'm not denying that sometimes, suicide attempts are cries for help, I'm arguing against dismissing all female suicide attempts as judgeme snidely describes them. Why the snarky comment about the facebook status? That implies a level of superficiality. Or do you think women are just too stupid to know how? So... I suppose we've decided, then, that women are the only ones who make cries for help?
/r/MensRights04/03/11 05:24 AM
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At this rate, we'll be going like this back and forth all night. ...... ...... Not that I'd mind.
/r/MensRights04/03/11 04:21 AM
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Wrong. It is totally valid to say that Juarez is worse than Seattle. Yea... I... have no comment, as it is unrelated. There are many cases of guys being railroaded and imprisoned despite the lack of evidence. Really? That seems unlikely, given the extremely low conviction rate, but if you have a source I'd appreciate it. But that's not the point. The point is, any woman can get a man arrested for rape on a whim (unless the police force is one of the misogynistic ones). Yes, as could any person g…
/r/MensRights04/03/11 04:06 AM
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Everything I touch diiiiies. sobs quietly
/r/MensRights04/03/11 03:56 AM
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Yes, I never claimed you couldn't have an opinion, only that it is disingenuous to claim that one is objectively worse than the other. Nor is it particularly constructive, as both are traumatic, life-changing events that are probably best known by the victims themselves. Per your second point, rape convictions are very difficult to make, because they don't rely on "someone else's word." And being arrested for something is much, much different than being convicted. I can get someone arrested by c…
/r/MensRights04/03/11 03:34 AM
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Oh Bruce Wayne, you crazy, lovable bastard.
/r/MensRights04/03/11 03:22 AM
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A lot of suicide attempts are so incredibly lame that they don't really qualify. There's a difference between an attempt to blow your face off with a shotgun and cutting your wrist with a razor while posting a facebook status update about it. Yea, forgive me for seeing this as mocking what you assume is "a lot" of female suicide attempts. If you wanted to say that some suicide attempts by women could be cries for help, why not say that? Why use the snide, contempt-filled language? I actually hav…
/r/MensRights04/03/11 03:10 AM
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I thought you were the one who originally posted at me (ReluctantNihilist), so my apologies.
/r/MensRights04/03/11 02:59 AM
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cutting your wrist with a razor while posting a facebook status update about it. Yea, I'm sure this is true of most female suicide attempts because they're just whiny attention whores, amirite?
/r/MensRights04/03/11 02:49 AM
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Women actually attempt suicide more often but have a higher rate of failure, as they often use methods such as OD, which has a better rescue rate than men, who often use guns.
/r/MensRights04/03/11 02:17 AM
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Well with a title like WOMEN WANT BLAH BLAH BLAH suffice it to say it's worth pointing out what a generalization that is. Would you (or I) like it if someone wrote, "Men are hard workers... except when it comes to parenting!"
/r/MensRights04/03/11 02:05 AM
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Yea, I think it's kind of like that Austin Powers quote, "There are two things I hate, people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
/r/MensRights03/03/11 09:51 PM
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Obviously? Forgive me when I interpret generalizations from a title like Women want equality... except when it comes to sex and dating. I also found the article to be full of gross generalizations. Women don't want to pay for dates? Women don't ask men out on dates? Women expect to be allowed to be promiscuous? Maybe I live in a bubble of paradise, but the dating scene seems to be more complex than women screwing men over. What I think has happened is that yes, the playing field is leveled, so t…
/r/MensRights03/03/11 09:35 PM
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Yea, it's like "Oh, child support laws, okay, I dig, lemme hear your argument." "WOMEN ARE ALL BITCHEZ. LOOK. I HAVE STATISTICS. ALSO. ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE" "Ah. I see. Moving on then!" It's quite tragic, as I'm quite acutely aware that there are Men's rights issues that merit discussion, but all you can hear here is "WOMEN. AMIRITE?"
/r/MensRights03/03/11 09:35 AM
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First of all, what? Second of all, "Man up?" Isn't that rather misandrist?
/r/MensRights03/03/11 09:24 AM
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Which is why they were arrested. So. Not sure what this has to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights03/03/11 02:33 AM
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Hmm, really? All women are like this? All women are unfair bitches? Good to know. I really love the "Women think <something objectionable>" posts, that's sure to get rational people in on a thoughtful discussion. Men are good people... except that all they care about is sex and farting. See how constructive I'm being? And yes, I am being sarcastic, and don't think all men only care about sex and farting, as wonderful as sex and the occasional, discreet fart may be.
/r/MensRights02/03/11 11:48 PM
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As much as I appreciate your rigorous formatting and clever quip, I must insist on disagreeing. You claim experience is subjective, but then follow up by claiming that per the definitions, one scenario is worse than the other. You can have an opinion, certainly, on which would be worse or better, but you can't claim that without a doubt, one is objectively worse. As much as I understand the sentiment of Blackstone's formulation, and furthermore appreciate the fact that defendants are assumed inn…
/r/MensRights02/03/11 11:32 PM
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Really? You, the all-knowing, have deemed definitively that going to jail as an innocent is worse than being raped? Because that seems like something that probably couldn't be objectively defined by a single person, omniscient as you may be. I'm not saying one is worse than the other, because hey, THEY'RE BOTH FUCKING BAD and to say one is worse would work to undermine the experiences of victims. I'm also curious what you're trying to accomplish by making this judgment. By claiming that innocent…
/r/MensRights02/03/11 10:38 PM
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The logic radiating off of you. It is refreshing.
/r/MensRights02/03/11 10:25 PM
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Wha? So would you say that since some Muslims are terrorists, all Muslims are terrorists, because they haven't stopped terrorism yet?
/r/MensRights03/11/10 08:06 PM
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No, I'm not against anonymity because it would make it too hard to convict, I'm saying that there would have to be some form of protection afforded to the rest of society in case the defendant is guilty. For instance, if someone's accused of rape, and is anonymous, there needs to be some way to make sure they can't continue the alleged crime, in case they're guilty. Maybe some form of probation. I'm not saying you should assume they are guilty, but trials can take a long time, and you don't want…
/r/MensRights03/11/10 06:26 PM
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A evil, sinister, sarcastic game meant to undermine men and install a matriarchy.
/r/MensRights03/11/10 06:16 PM
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I'm not making an assumption about what the majority here believes. The point is that women do lie about it and there are examples of innocent guys going to jail or losing custody of their kids because of an opportunist rape accusation or because a consenting sexual encounter was regretted the next day by an unscrupulous female. It's true that false rape claims do happen, yet I find that it's often exaggerated how often. So many people assume that when a woman makes a rape allegation, she's just…
/r/MensRights03/11/10 02:20 AM
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"When you have experience of women, and the lies they constantly tell, and the trouble they cause…" Okay, so you just think most chicks are liars/cause trouble. Fantastic.
/r/MensRights03/11/10 02:06 AM
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Yes, I'm not implying that one should assume the defendant is guilty. However, in the same vein, one should not assume the person making the claim is untrustworthy. When examining a case, you need to be neutral concerning both the defense and the prosecution. As to the Dutch case, it's hard for me to comment because I don't know the Dutch legal system. Obviously, I'm not in favor of allowing false criminal claims to be made without consequences, but you can't start off a case with "Oh, she's/he'…
/r/MensRights03/11/10 01:28 AM
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I probably shouldn't have posted it on this thread, because it's going to be seen as an attack against other posters. It wasn't meant to be, I was trying to make a joke about how cases like this are often used to defame all other women who claim rape. But you're right, when I read it now it comes off as kind of preemptively defensive. Though, I disagree with your last point. Our legal system is not at all friendly towards women who come forward with rape charges. Many rape kits aren't even proce…
/r/MensRights03/11/10 01:21 AM
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Oh snap, because joking about how often cases like this (see: Duke lacrosse case), are used to imply that all/most rape cases are lies, is somehow super offensive. This woman got what she deserved for subverting the justice system and extorting her partner. I just hate it when cases like this are used to justify distrusting all rape victims.
/r/MensRights02/11/10 09:35 PM
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<sarcasm> And this undoubtedly proves all women who claim rape are liars and extortionists. </sarcasm>
/r/MensRights02/11/10 07:49 PM
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"Feminists" isn't one large group of entirely like-minded people. Regardless, mainstream feminists are not at all about replacing the patriarchy with a matriarchy. The point is, any kind of -archy is harmful to everyone, as it creates artificial power structures based on arbitrary characteristics. It's easy to take one person who identifies as a feminist, look at some weird argument they're making, and say, "OH see?! All feminists are crazy and want to enslave men!"
/r/MensRights02/11/10 07:44 PM
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Thank you. Also, I read a link to the article, where the poster calls the woman a "foul feminist c*nt." I disagree with her, but really? Can't you debate someone's viewpoint without resorting to ad hominem rants? I also saw "shrill" being thrown around. One woman with a somewhat unconventional point of view is NOT representative of "all women" or even of "all feminists." I thought this thread was supposed to hate generalizations?
/r/MensRights02/11/10 07:37 PM
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yet all of them will support the notion through their actions. Again, "all of them." You somehow know the actions of every single one of them. In my experience, groups that fight against domestic violence try to raise funds and resources for victims, as well as push for better options through the justice system. There is no caveat, "except for when the victim is male." In fact, in my experience feminist/anti-abuse groups do bring up male victims. My freshman year in college we went to an anti-ra…
/r/MensRights01/11/10 04:11 AM
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I think the main point on which we disagree is where this idea comes from. You're of the position (and correct me if I'm wrong), that it is due to the large amount of women who slap men and act aghast if they slap back (assuming of course that they slap back like the poster said he did, e.g, not escalating the violence). I think this idea comes from the old cultural idea that women are the "weaker sex," (they need doors held for them, they need to be treated like delicate flowers, they aren't ca…
/r/MensRights31/10/10 08:23 PM
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"But, if it is 'reality' that a woman is going to slap you for calling her a bitch" See, right here you're making the assumption that all/most women would behave that way. I agree that you shouldn't react violently to words, but I think its alarming that you think this behavior is just something "women" do. But I'm just a crazy asshole for expecting women to practice what they preach, I guess. Again, you're lumping all women together. Replace the word "women" with "men," or some other group of p…
/r/MensRights31/10/10 07:14 PM
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I've only known one woman who gets rough when she's drunk, and she never complains about it when her (male) friend gets rough back with her. I don't approve of either of them slapping/hitting eachother, but they both seem to be okay with it. Then again, back in highschool, my friends and I used to play rough all the time, and it didn't matter if you were a girl or a boy. Maybe it's because I come from a younger generation where the antiquated idea that women are somehow the "weaker" gender and n…
/r/MensRights31/10/10 07:11 PM
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I'm asking detached to back up his assertion that lots of women act this way. Detached is the one making a generalization, the burden of proof is upon him/her to back up the claim. As to the bitches comment, my point is that when you promote the idea that "most <insert group of people> act this way," it's easy to dehumanize them. E.g, "Most <Muslims> are <terrorists>" makes it easy to demonize Muslims. And it's the same thing with "Most <women> think <something irrational, clearly morally wrong>…
/r/MensRights31/10/10 07:06 PM
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Maybe some feminists hold that belief, but certainly not the majority. I haven't heard a feminist ever assert that it's okay for women to hit men but not the other way around. This idea actually comes not from feminism, but from antiquated ideas about the "delicate little women," and how it's wrong to treat them like men as they're the weaker sex.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 06:56 PM
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"enough of them do" And where do you get this statistic? None of the women I know think it's acceptable to hit someone. You're still generalizing, which makes it easy to vilify the entire gender and reduce them down to "bitches."
/r/MensRights31/10/10 08:19 AM
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Because all women feel justified in hitting someone else.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 08:16 AM
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Because most women are like this. Great generalization there.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 08:12 AM
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Because all/most women act like that woman did. Right.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 08:10 AM
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That's politics - men can't make direct sexist comments towards women, but women absolutely can against men. But men DO make direct sexist comments towards women/other men. So I don't know why you say they "can't." You mean it's unacceptable? It should be. As for women making sexist comments towards men, that's also wrong. Is it more accepted? Not in my experience, but when it IS done, it's usually lashing out at both genders (calling into question a man's masculinity). It's part of the whole ty…
/r/MensRights29/10/10 03:09 AM
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Yes, this phrase is extremely problematic. "Manning up" implies that there's some kind of goal of maleness that, if you don't fulfill, you are betraying your gender. Thus, "maleness" = strong, dominating, powerful, responsible. And if you aren't these things, you're less of a male. It's a form of sexism that's harmful for both genders, and used by both genders.
/r/MensRights29/10/10 02:46 AM
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I agree that the police were being stupid. But I'm mostly responding to all the comments complaining about it when women quicken their pace when someone's behind them. I should have made that clearer in my original comment.
/r/MensRights27/10/10 05:38 PM
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So, when women notice someone walking behind them, they shouldn't do anything. But when women are assaulted, damn they shoulda been more careful/not worn that top. I'm probably the least threatening looking person, but when someone ahead of me speeds up at night because they hear me walking behind them, I don't take personal offense. It's just instinct to try and protect yourself. Don't take it personally.
/r/MensRights27/10/10 03:58 PM
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Your post was an example of the very theory that you were describing! R-r-r-recursive!
/r/MensRights26/10/10 08:41 PM
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