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Low IQ is also a factor so I guess we are both ineligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:48 AM
1

That has nothing to do with the realities of conscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:35 PM
0

The whole conscription discussion has been a real blackpill on the worth of (young) men to the world. Both men and women think very little of men it seems. It makes evolutionary / biological sense but that doesn't make it any less grim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:20 PM
1

Ignore what women say. Observe reality and make your own conclusions. And be honest about which way the dice fall (not making any assumptions here for your case). Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:51 PM
1

Of course you are right, it has its positives, suffering from gender dysphoria is its own kind of hell. I have a FTM family relative. Used to be a bit of a tomboy, now 15 odd years later she is a very balding man. I am curious in your opinion. If a FTM is truly passing, why would that experience be so very different to any other man? Except for the fact that they know what it is like on the other side?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:00 PM
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You have endless amounts of FTM transitions where the person is absolutely devastated in the way that the world treats them once they pass as a man. They all think they will get Chad treatment when in reality they just become short, feeble men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:22 PM
1

Thank you, I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:50 AM
6

Hey! Right now I am in orthodontics preparation for a bimaxilary orthognatic surgery (bimax). The plan is to move both my jaws forward and to rotate the entire jaw complex to make the angle of the bite flatter. Also my upper jaw will be moved downward a bit. This should significantly improve airway / breathing, fix some existing bite issues and should improve asethetics. On top of that there will a chin surgery to fine tune the jaw movements and some midface work, the surgeon will see exactly wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:13 PM
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Hm, maybe. I socialize a lot, go to events, work two pretty intense jobs with great team members, i travel to spain every two months. I invite people to events, they invite me to events, the whole jazz. I think I am fairly pleasant and well adjusted - nothing out of the ordinary. But it never translates to romantic opportunities. I am getting 50-60 thousand euros worth of cosmetic and functional surgery on my face at the beginning of next year so I will let you know if it moves the needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:10 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:02 PM
2

Eh even if they do, most modern relationships the man is an oofie doofie / jester simply because he has to be for her to keep him around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:55 AM
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If we could harness the power of male thirst we would be a a type 4 civilization by now (Kardashev). The reality is, she has limitless options and unless you are a phenom where women would crawl kilometres over broken glass to see you, it's much easier for her to just get another guy to pay for the date. Modern dating is a race to the bottom in a lot of respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:25 AM
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Don't ask women what they want. Just observe behavior. Therein lies the truth. If you open your eyes to it its simple and more or less universal. The variance is close to non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:00 PM
3

This is always the case, in any relationship ever. Except for child <--> parent perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:46 PM
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You never give out choosing signals?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:15 AM
1

Peak reddit right there
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:09 PM
9

Marriage is a business contract, its not supposed to be romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:58 PM
1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:16 AM
-1

Wdym even me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:33 AM
3

They are just tired of the chad soft harem
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:31 AM
5

No. Rare to meet a woman or man like that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:22 AM
1

Its disgust. Not anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:59 PM
-2

Sex workers are much cheaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:46 AM
-3

Exactly. You want women who like you, desire you. So if she can wait with me while she couldnt keep her hands off some other dude im already not interested. Im obviously not expressing this explicitly, but if you know a woman gets around but is frigid with you, you would do well to pass
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:29 PM
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Its about her past. If she gave it up quickly in the past, her standards arent that high and the signal is low desire if contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:10 AM
2

Thats a leap. To me it’s more about not wanting to be a creep and a nuisance on one end and thinking what possible value can this person bring me that outweighs the humiliation of rejection. Pride cometh before the fall. For other men it’s different. I think the best way is that the woman initiates by showing obvious signs of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:29 PM
5

No we wont. There is a thousand reasons a man can find, real or imagined, why not to ask her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:59 AM
1

Men would be plenty open to expressing emotions if it meant women still wanting to fuck them afterwards. Shock horror, the opposite is true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:33 PM
2

I agree. I am the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:22 PM
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I go into it with that mindset, that she was around. Helps me to not get attached.But my mind can be changed. Usually her closest friends are a good predictor. Not always, but often
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:30 AM
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Thats a very female way of thinking. Men have a lot to lose. At least the kinds women deem “marriage material “
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:24 AM
6

Who cares why? And 30 is still very young to be frigid
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:15 AM
2

Of course you know women who cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:11 AM
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Male female dichotomy is a very low resolution way to look at things. You lose a lot of information. Plenty of fodder men with zero power around
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:15 AM
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Nobody is asking for any points. and you are not taken rights you are given rights. Men would be dying in wars and dangerous jobs if it werent for other processes also set up by and large by men. Its just the natural state of things. For instance did you know that the discrepancy between college attendance was less back when more men attended college? The situation is horrific now yet nobody cares and this includes other men. Women dont care about men as a group. Studies on ingroup bias support …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:44 PM
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Its to mitigate the pain he would inflict on himself. No friendship is worth the suffering that can bring
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:10 PM
3

Single no, celibate probably
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:56 AM
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Most men pay. One way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:59 AM
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Hair loss prevention drugs enabled me to control my libido much better. Dutasteride is a blessing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:58 AM
1

The iq distribution is flatter in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 03:21 AM
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Attraction is fine, whoring it up and then expecting some guy to cover the bill after 25 bodies in 5 years, isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:50 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree with you, that show the dating economy works. I am living in a way you describe. Im saying the average man isnt smart enough or has the foresight to do this. And if every man doesnt change strategy, the ones who dont will mate. Its a simplified, gametl theoretical lens bit i think it checka out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:43 PM
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In terms of sexual strategy, males are the reactive sex. Women choose, men are chosen. Humanity is not a hivemind, so ascribing fault to “men” is akin to ascribing guilt to air pressure for causing destructive winds
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:57 PM
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Men are going to lean towards whatever makes women like them. Whatever leads to reproductive success. Have women all be low time preference, slow life strategists and you will see men usher in a new utopia
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:59 PM
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Men dont seem to be too bothered by that unkess its extreme. My issue is neurodivergency, not looks. I seem to attract women but they lose interest when they talk to me over a fee weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:11 PM
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Thanks man. We are all gonna make it 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:23 PM
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I know, I was in one for 14 years. That ended in such a fucked up, brutal fashion it essentially killed something inside me. Its a lot better now, the freedom and privilige to do whatever you want, every failure or success be your own doing is cathartic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:59 PM
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This is my situation. Some of us are just too ugly and / or neurodivergent for women to have genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:47 PM
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Keep on keeping on, my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:37 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:33 AM
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Please give stats. I think the topic is fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:23 AM
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Not enough of those to go around. Hence the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:20 AM
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Because mens traditional roles are beneficial and in certain cases attractive. And men will do whatever women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:17 AM
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Out of all that your takeaway is “you are right, women should negotiate better”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:13 AM
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Its evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:05 AM
1

What do you think should be done, if anything. Genuine question btw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:51 AM
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Im into antedeluvian vampire women exclusively. Its a tough market
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:28 PM
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You are probably right. However Ive experienced it before and i dont think it makes sense to compromise on this. Tbh i cant imagine being with someone im not attracted to and vice versay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:16 PM
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I see your point. The question remains if those women are attracted to the men in a visceral sense. Women are by and large the initiators of breakups. From my observations the modern relationship is either the man being way out of her league or he is a doormat in a semi dead bedroom because of a lack of options
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:42 PM
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I guess what do you mean put more effort into appearance? If you mean soft stuff like hair and skin you are off the mark. You still need a good base for that. If you include the hard stuff such as jaw surgery, hair transplants and limb lengthening, we can agree. Ultimately women respect good genetics. Face, height, neurotypicality. If your base is off you are done in terms of being sexually attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:34 PM
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Dude. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:27 PM
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Women have conditioned men to be insulted by this rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:41 AM
4

Being a recovering addict myself(havent used in over 3 years), i can say porn related ED is definitely real.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:04 PM
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Super aids
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 06:21 PM
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They are like that with men who are tall, with good face and good frame. Markers of good genetics. Gym helps but not nearly as much as good plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:13 AM
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Be more attractive and dont cohabitate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:49 AM
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On a populational level i suppose i care that they are safe and well and able to self actualize. People assume im some monster. Why. I donate my time to animal shelters. I donate 10 days of my time off to mentor our youth in skills that will serve them. I saved a life by donating bone marrow. Im nit this selflish useless idiot. I think women see men as disposable and would rather see them dead than down and helpless, a burden. So when women are “proud” of their men going to virtually certain dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 06:38 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:43 PM
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Obviously they do or you would get nowhere with the various social movements. Look at islamists if you want to know what men who think women shouldnt have a voice can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:01 PM
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I am very good at what I do in a field where there is little to no women. Should I gatekeep women because i think they arent suited for it (not life or death, just long hard hours and money at stake)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:56 PM
-1

Women dont give a rats ass about what men say usually, why would that matter to them now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:34 PM
1

Blacks were sold to whites. By other blacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:09 PM
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Racism is a tired card to play and not even remotely unique to whites. In fact whites are the most tolerant people on earth, to their own detriment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:29 PM
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There are race and class patterns to this that you may not like considering your profile pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:15 AM
1

How can you not “believe” in the BP when its all around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:09 AM
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How do these surveys account for the hawthorne effect? Men overreport and women underreport n counts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:03 PM
2

Im a different dude but honestly its an easy mistake to make in this case 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 03:39 PM
5

Well you are a walking talking red flag arent you. Good luck to the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:09 AM
0

Dozens, even!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:06 AM
2

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:06 AM
2

Yes and she is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:05 AM
3

Women definitely have value from just existing. They are a natural bottleneck to birthrates. Losing a million men is a big blow but managable. Losing a milliom women in a similiar context is catastrophic. Women are born. Men are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 11:03 AM
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Cute nerd = Chad with glasses
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:15 PM
14

You start developing yourself to get women, tzen figure out all that work went towards getting a vapid and boring girl thats nice to look at but is ultimately just a time, money and energy sink. But you are ultimately still glad you went through the trouble because now you are much better off, financially, physically and mentally. Once you figure that out you truly ascended.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:43 PM
2

Society doesnt care about men the same way it does women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:36 AM
1

Women have much higher standards for men than vice versa. And they are much more likely to put pressure on the man to change. Women dont love men, they love what men can do for them. Men are expendable so this is normal. No bitterness here on my end it was just hard to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:30 AM
2

I agree. I have issues kicking the habit myself. Im 3 months off. There are big advantages but as an average looking male with an intense job, im just frustrated now. I encourage men to do it if they see value in it. But i wouldnt say i won at life vecause of it. Btw You should look into what social media does to women, its similiarly horrific
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:20 AM
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Women dont have an outgroup preference for men. They simply fuck the winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:25 PM
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Women have inherent value, men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:58 PM
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This is basic hypergamy. Its not something women process in their prefrontal cortex, its lizard brain stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:04 PM
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The difference between college admissions is greater now than it was back when women were throwing a fit. Its just that nobody cares about men and that includes the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:19 PM
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This is an interesting point. Why do you think this is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:55 PM
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Doesnt have to be a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:23 AM
6

Men should enter a joint enterprise with one another and do hard shit to make money or for the hell of it. Only thing that gives men purpose is pursuing a hard goal with blinders on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:06 PM
0

Women want nothing to do with their looksmatch. A female 5 does fine, a male 5 is either a betabuxx or an inkwell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:24 PM
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In my experience men will take anything meanwhile told they need to improoooovveeee, meanwhile women get to pick and choose while doing absolutely nothing be interesting or pleasant. Ultimately men love romantically, women love pragmatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:10 PM
-1

We live in completely different realities, you and I
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:58 PM
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Women are top tier natural eugenicists. And ND is obviously an evolutionary deadend for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:38 PM
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We are discussing trends, not you. Im happy for you that you have things figured out and that you respect people enough to tell them like it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:10 PM
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If a man isnt attractive and wants a relationship he will jump through hoops or be replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:07 PM
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You are not wrong. Women are ruthless pragmatists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:02 PM
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Mgtow is not going their own way, its men sent their own way. Men are disposable in general, but thise guys are the disposable of the disposable. Nobody cares or thinks about them in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:22 PM
4

Randomly meeting someone and have the random chance to attract them based on random combo of genetic traits. See if you could attract your woman if you were a 5’2 indian janitor. No will made manifest for your face
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:44 PM
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You are just proving his point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:15 AM
4

Hes just not as attractive and she settled for a guy that she can keep around. There is no deeper meaning to this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:14 AM
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“You can date women women who arent entitled” news to me 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:15 AM
3

There is definitely a correlation between looks and how popular someone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:12 PM
3

Can you discuss your last point a bit more
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:55 PM
2

Women would still be barefoot and pregnant if it wasnt for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:17 PM
4

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:58 PM
3

And cheating on their former partner would give them some sort of clemency?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:52 PM
1

Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:45 PM
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Just leave if you arent happy, i dont see how cheating comes into the equation unless you are a worthless human being OP, which I think you are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:39 PM
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Men who play the game women setup get laid, men who dont, dont. Why would women change a situation that suits them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:53 PM
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Why do you think I struggle? It seems to me zhat genetic determinism is the most internally consistent world view. In fact viewing the world through this lens made me make moves to ve more attractive. But i havent actually dated a woman yet that would not be vapid, sollipsistic, insecure and ultimately very boring. I actually understand the female pov quite well now, except i dont have infinity optionality. Investing in myself keeps paying dividends to the point that i would be paying unacceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:41 PM
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One possibility is that The smv of older women is closer to that of men so they arent constantly inundated with options and getting their brain rotten by fomo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:32 PM
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I can tell you based on someones skull how attractive they are. Attraction is much more objective for women than men. There are no female chubby chasers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:59 PM
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“Let them eat cake”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:18 PM
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Part Because she was with me for the vast majority of my adult life so far and part because the years that were good were very good. I just dont think its possible to get that again at this stage. But you are right, i can see how my message is misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:37 AM
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Im just explaining the question, not saying i agree with the logic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:29 PM
2

I wish you all the best man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:16 PM
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If you havent piqued a womans interest enough to date you in over 20 years its brutally over. And its likely your looks that are at the crux of the problem. Have you tried any surgery yet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 04:17 PM
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Because he would see how many different guys you are talking to on the same level as with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:43 PM
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This favours women of course. But still I wonder. Do you think women are happy with this dynamic? Are you happy with this dynamic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:18 AM
0

You give the BP a bad name
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:48 PM
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If women have trouble in relationship its almost entirely down to aiming too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:43 PM
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I agree with all of the above. Good job with laying it out, very insightful
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:39 PM
1

No running for your face. Some men have no choice but get surgery or die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:42 PM
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If it doesnt happen in the first three dates, its over. Outside of rare exceptions, like virgin or religious or low body count. As a man you vet for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:00 AM
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Getting ran through for the sake of vetting guys? What a terrible strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:58 AM
2

This describes the crux of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:57 AM
1

The wanting to cheat thing is crazy. I have been single for 2 years now with shorter flings. I dobt actively seek out women. The number of married or otherwise taken women showing interest is uncomfortably high.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:56 AM
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This used to work, but its not a valid strategy anymore as explained above. If she is not wanting to tear off your clothes you arent doing it for her. Unless you are okay with being an oofy doofy, move along.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:51 AM
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The difference is, women are a lot more picky and their standards are a lot more uniform. There are no female chubby chasers. One type of man gets a disproportionate amount of attention. Considering the male sexual strategy is to sow their oats, those guys will always be available for a short term, noncommited fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:08 AM
0

No
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:27 AM
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Most women are incredibly plain and boring. Young women never have to develop a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:38 PM
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The exact opposite is the red flag for men. I cant believe you would think anything else, considering sex partner counts are a big deal for men to gauge long term prospect of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 07:33 AM
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Tate is just a reactionary. If things werent as bad as they are he wouldnt have a market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 02:47 PM
1

Women increasingly divorce men over “not feeling it”, “dont love you anymore”. This is consistent with hypergamy strategy. Once women believe the man is below her status, pussy dries up. This effect is somewhat reduced when she has children because the sollipsism and the associates lack of accountability is reduced. When you have less options, you think about your move a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:43 PM
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Women are the ones that tend to have a problem. Marriages where women earn more have something like a 10 times greater probability of failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:06 PM
6

The black pill is just the darker shades of truth. Is natural people deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:25 AM
6

Dutasteride, my bro. Keep your hair and resuce your sex drive. Its a win win
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:40 PM
2

Its the friendzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:15 PM
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Women need it too. Just swap the word “man” with “Chad” and everything will make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:29 PM
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Blame the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:27 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:10 PM
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You are far from the only ones being good. Modern women are as solipsistic and vapid as ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:01 PM
3

By staying single do you men voluntarily celibate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:59 PM
2

Thats your assumption that in my experience atleast does not draw water. They just get exploited differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:37 PM
7

Got any stats on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:53 PM
9

Being promiscuous amongst other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:47 PM
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She has, she is frustrated that the bottom 90 percenters still show up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 01:34 PM
2

Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:51 PM
1

Wdym
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:41 PM
4

The wall is a cope. Women have higher average SMV than men full stop. The difference just lessens with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:52 PM
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Unless she completely changes her social circle you can tell. If 3 of her 5 friends are party girls, safe to say so is she.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:49 AM
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Hobosexual just means Chadsexual
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 02:19 PM
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The love of my life, we were together for 14 years, was cheating on me for the last year at least with her married with kids coworker. She was physically violent during that time too. Some of the things that happened still haunt me 2 years after we split. The minor things with other women that hurt a lot are various flavors of hot and cold behavior and ghosting. For someone with trust issues… im better off alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 08:36 PM
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Vomit inducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:05 PM
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Something will have to give eventually. The current system is not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 02:04 PM
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It fits the agenda, even though its a complete lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:47 AM
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UK is a lost cause and not relevant to this discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 09:29 AM
3

The "on average more men cheat" might have been a think 20 years ago but I would be extremely sceptical about it in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 06:44 AM
3

Women by and large vote for the people who support these policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:07 AM
1

Im not saying it doesn’t. But men should also protect themselves against paternity fraud. Used to be heavy handed mate guarding. Nowadays a simple test is enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:47 AM
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The risk profile exists for both but its much greater for the woman. This is nature and its not up for debate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:15 PM
1

Im discussing reality, i did not make a value judgement. I dont have a problem wrt access to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:14 PM
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You are missing an extra element here which is risk. Potential for violence, higher chance of stds, pregnancy and social stigma if she gets around, threatening her ability to find a high value long term mate. For men this risk profile is much smaller. Women also dont tend to orgasm as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:24 PM
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No, women have more to lose. This is a low iq take
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:15 PM
-1

Of course its natural to be attracted to women in their peak fertile years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:09 PM
1

The model of each man gets a woman works because it gives men a reason to give a shit about society. This is what propelled society forward. What you dont want is unwashed masses of men not having any stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:07 PM
1

I dont get her dissonance but i agree with her more based takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 12:02 PM
0

Why do all humans deserve empathy and love?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:55 AM
0

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:08 PM
1

I know, i wasnt arguing a point. More like an addendum to it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:09 PM
1

If you have money, surgery exists. Genuine burning desire is non negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:15 PM
3

Women mistake dark triad traits for those positive traits i think
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:02 PM
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Pointless discussion. Men and women are complements. Modern individualist society is obfuscating that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:18 PM
2

A warrior's aura isn't necessarily tied to brute strength. Having high status in an already high status profession or being a successful business-owner signals these traits. You have to be competent, assertive and manage social relationships well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:05 PM
3

Damn right it isn't, especially not in this day and age hahahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:10 PM
1

An example would be a man sitting cross-legged, or holding a cigarette in a slightly efeminate way. Or maybe not knowing how to change a flat tire.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:08 PM
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I dont think knowing how to cook would give a woman the ick, especially if you add an artisanal flair to it. An example of an ick would be that a woman loses interest because she see her date sit cross legged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:07 PM
2

Kamala is a psyop.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:56 PM
1

That dude is a "man" in name only.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:38 PM
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Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:47 PM
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Women have different criteria for men in long-term relationships vs. short-term relationships. For short term its pretty much solely physical attractiveness and bad boy qualities that makes their engines rev up. In terms of long term mating, good boy qualities come into play as well, which do not translate to sexual attractiveness. A woman will generally want both but will compromise on the bad boy stuff when she hits her late 20s, early 30s if she wants a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:06 PM
0

That is assuming women have the same drive to success and status as men do - they do not. For men, status brings substantially more mating options - not so for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:35 PM
4

Depends on the masters degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:18 PM
1

Alright I get what you meant. Didnt know how to put that into context with your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:24 AM
2

Most women do not desire most men sexually, this is not the own you think it is. In fact, it speaks against your argument. Women are mainly attracted to various, hilariously predictable, flavours of Chad. Men have a much broader spectrum of characteristics they deem attractive in women. It's easy to be picky when your drive just isn't as strong for the vast majority of the population. Men have 10 times the testosterone which is a force powering the sexual drive. There is plenty of testimonials f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:20 AM
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The black pill is the admission looks are the single most important thing a man can have to be an object of desire for women. What you do with that is up to you. Some try to improve their looks, others move to a country with less sexual competition and others still become incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:10 AM
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Speaking as someone with a high libido.I wouldn't, as long as that high sex drive wouldn't lead the girl to actions that would violate my trust. As long as she keeps it in the relationship I see it as a sign that the relationship is going well and that we enjoy each other, all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:23 AM
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Its a random weird reddit commenter. It doesnt even represent the red pill as such
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:02 AM
1

The implication that women get picked doesnt make sense outside of Chad chasing so I guess that is true. In more common scenarios it is women that do the picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:19 PM
1

"Let them eat cake" - operajunkie
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:41 PM
2

This is a good point. Men shouldnt date these weird women. But a lot of guys dont come, rightfully so, from an abundance mentality and when pressed, would rather be in a shitty relationship than single. I think that is the crux of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:01 PM
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Most women are going to pick option 1, the dillema is too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:02 AM
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Yes, that makes the scenario even worse not better. No, what you are proposing is a very bad idea. More women than men is the only sane scenario. There is a reason why men are expendable (on a populational level) and women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:24 AM
3

I mean, that is what you can see in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:09 AM
1

I do more for humanity than you, guaranteed :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 12:56 PM
10

How does love make the sex better. They’re two separate things. Stop this planet at the next station, I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:01 AM
6

I have just recently had a situation where a random woman cut in line ahead of me and then proceeded to launch an onslaught of IOI's at me to the point where even the people I was with noticed. If you count talking to a woman that does something in a similiar vain as cold approaching, fine. (Its more like warm approaching to my mind). I would heavily discourage guys from approaching random women on the street completely unprompted. Unless you are Henry Cavill tier, this will end badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 10:12 AM
1

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:32 AM
1

Ok thanks. Thats crazy expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:39 PM
1

Thats very unfortunate. What is the biggest expense? I imagine daycare due to labor costs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:16 PM
0

Where do you live that childcare costs a whole salary?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:28 PM
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Yeah. Its not intuitive at all, but the husband putting his foot down will lead to more sex in the long term. Assuming he is, at his core, benevolent of course. Its crucial that the man has some leverage in terms of attractiveness and success or the woman has nothing to lose by losing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:25 PM
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I thought I would be, but now that my work is paying off (early 30s) I dont think about the past as much. Just enjoying the present and planning for the future. Meeting people, working hard and having fun. Getting to this position was hell though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:22 PM
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It's servicing men for the vast majority of cases. A woman looking for Chad can go on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:13 PM
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You are right in the sense that if you need to wine and dine her to get a bit of ankle while she put out after 30 minutes of meeting Chad, you are getting a very raw end of the deal. She has no genuine burning desire and you are extremely vulnerable as she will always have the upper hand in the relationship as the one who is less emotionally invested. However, there is a third scenario here which is, she has both genuine desire for you as well as sees you as a long term mate. You will know this …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:12 PM
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Men doing hard things together is the basis of society, modern or otherwise. One of the most inane takes I have ever read on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:52 PM
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Please elaborate. The modern woman is flaky and will change her mind on a whim, but will sometimes keep up with the charade if she still has something to gain from the companionship. My two statements are consistent with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:38 AM
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I dont agree that women are more likely to face manipulations. From my personal experience (my own and the men around me), women reject men outright and down the line much more often than vice-versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:30 AM
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The men who think that, you want nothing to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:43 AM
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Yes on all counts. Men are born worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:54 PM
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There is a difference between a body count of 10 and 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:53 PM
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Or did you think you can just stumble into him on the street and rizz him with your saggy titties? I havent felt a single positive or negative emotion in months. You have made me smile with this one, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:57 PM
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Definitely. I had it done as a small child because of phimosis but even then the surgeon was careful to cut as little as possible. Am grateful for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:38 PM
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How does he seem angry? The post you are responding to is one of the most "natural geographic", "matter of fact" that I have ever read on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:59 PM
1

I agree that it has become a kind of religion for people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:52 PM
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Yeah.. and its important to realize that at some point its not really your fault. Self-improve for women all you want, if the genetic underpinnings aren't there you are going to have a hard time. You should be doing it for yourself anyway. That way you won't get discouraged when you go from zero to zero after 2 years of "improving".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:51 PM
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Girls in elementary and high school not studying STEM is the problem and we can't remedy this at the college level. Why is it a problem? I hear this a lot and I still have not seen any evidence that girls are somehow being brainwashed away from the hard sciences. In fact, the opposite is true - reduce environmental factors and the gap between boys and girls widens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:34 PM
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50 shades of Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:04 PM
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Thats not true that they bail. I know of an wxample myself. They just have to think they are the primary one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:27 PM
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Men have for a long time been lied to that looks dont matter, women are angels who care about personality (whatever that means). It doesnt take a lot for a young woman to be seen as attractive. I dont mean drop dead gorgeous, i mean attractive. For men this is a lofty goal because of the relatively narrow set of traits all women are looking for. And her not being attracted is why men think women are difficult. I think men should check out before being stuck in a relationship like this. So i like…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:14 AM
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Depends on his looks / attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:39 AM
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This is true if the company is not into you at all. But if you are a good prospect, the company will make it easy. Now. Getting to that point is hard if not downright impossible these days for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:39 AM
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That is called "Limerence" not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:51 PM
5

I wish I was gay, would make life a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:46 AM
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Why arent you good looking anymore? Men and women dont just "age out" in their late 20s. Do you have a condition or did you just let yourself go or whatsup? If its the latter i am sure you can get back on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:44 AM
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I look at it more from the angle that I trust her, but I need to calm my own spirits to lay the matter to rest. It's more of a "me" issue than a "her" issue. This is why I would do this in secret. It's not about hurting anyone. And I'd be 99% sure that it's mine. But that 1% would be gnawing at me because of my past experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:16 PM
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I wrote my comment in good faith. Can you clarify on what you think I missed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:40 AM
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Women can skate by. For men its a death sentence unless you are Jeremy Meeks. In that case you marry a billionaire heiress.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:30 AM
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Most guys here are virgins. Most women here are married or in a LTR. I think it's a morbid curiosity / something to pass the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:56 AM
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Close to 100 percent of paternity fraud happens because the man trusted the woman. I trusted my ex for 13 years, she gave me no reason to doubt her until i found out she was fucking her married with kids coworker for God knows how long. This is why I am getting a paternity test in secret if I ever become a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 06:52 PM
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This is why I think the man should only act with clear indicators of interest. If the woman doesnt, in some capacity, approach first she will have 0 genuine burning desire for him. Exposing your heart and soul to such a woman is extremely dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:13 PM
1

I am interested in your view on this. If a man is not attractive enough to be approached, what is it about approaching that makes him attractive enough to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:18 PM
1

Well the same things that make men losers in high school tend to make them losers in adulthood. Especially if you violate attractiveness rules 1 and 2 (be attractive, dont be unattractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:57 AM
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It is what is is, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:31 AM
3

Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:46 PM
3

Where do you think they got them from? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:25 PM
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Men should know what kind of men women love. And they should know why that is the case and what strategies women use, sometimes completely subconsciously, to get ahead. The goal is to be desired. And for a lot of men, that is just not possible for one reason or another.. Men should do what they can, but if they honestly tried their hardest and still not seeing results.. Well they can calm their soul. It's not their fault, not having a genuine connection and being desired is not the end of the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:09 PM
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And the biggest haters of male bisexuality are women for some reason. I am still trying to figure that one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:24 PM
1

What are you talking about bro? Authoritarian lefties definitely exist. Are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:23 AM
2

Hanlons razor, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:53 PM
2

No, not nearly as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:48 PM
0

I think its still over. Or rather should be. In certain cases if the man is high value enough, the wife will ignore a random lay here or there as long as its purely physical. A sport activity. When women cheat they are more than likely over their man and are waiting for the right time to monkeybranch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:38 AM
-1

This is the real answer. Men and women cheat for different reasons. If a woman strays its over.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:27 PM
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Where are you going with this line of questioning? Id rather we stick to discussing ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 03:22 PM
1

I can blame my parents for being neurodivergent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:09 AM
1

NT women have 0 issues with getting a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:02 AM
3

Its much harder nowadays, thats the only difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:52 AM
2

Yeah this is ultimately the answer for every thread on this godforsaken forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:49 AM
1

Being rejected for sleeping around is much different to being rejected for being genetic refuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:47 AM
4

In what way do you put effort into maintaining a social life?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:40 AM
7

The red pill will teach you that women breaks rules for chads. You can either accept it and try to improve your looks, status and wealth or you can check out. There is also game but id you have the first three things the only thing you need to do is not fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:36 AM
0

The red pill was coopted by grifters. Its a terrible thing, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:32 AM
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A persons moral compass can be informed by external sources but that doesnt mean they have to internal fortitude to fight off their hedonistic proclivities. But thats neither here nir there. Your partner took a higher risk dating you after your escapades. But a guy that is into the fwb thing usually doesnt care as much about bodies. If he does he is a hypocrite and hypocrites arent serious. people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:27 AM
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Its an interesting mental exercise but ultimately you are right. Much much better to die alone than end up with any of these women. True change in a person is rare. Even then, there is plenty of eomen who arent like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:15 AM
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A small minority of cartoonish assholes think that. And islamists, hardcore catholics and probably some other flavor of religious nut.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 07:00 AM
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Not at all if you dont apply a lot of energy and time. But you dont need to. Just be fun to be around, do your thing and dont get too attached. Keep the fact that She can change her mind at any time in the forefront.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:55 AM
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Being open sexually and using toys is worlds apart from "having a past". I give 0 shits if she uses toys in fact I will probably help her out. Having a "past" is a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:07 AM
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In that case I think it's important that the couple are aligned on what marriage entails. I am sure I am not alone in the thinking that the word "marriage" involves some form of government involvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:08 PM
4

I find your combative stance unnecessary. I am not familiar. Is this a common practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:53 PM
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Marriage is a business contract. One that is increasingly unwise to participate in. According to your thesis, would a ceremony without a business contract be enough? In that case sure let's get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:59 PM
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I don't know about started, probably not. But support of men is a prerequisite for feminism to gain any traction. I give you Iran as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:23 AM
2

What do you mean by never having lusted for a guy? Do you feel sexual attraction to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:09 PM
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The touching combined with random acts of service are the only green lights I ever responded to. The rest is too vague, some girls are just happy and outgoing with everybody. It's not that simple when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:40 AM
9

"Is she into me?" "Nah, she's an outgoing person, she's just being friendly."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:21 AM
-3

Men are more likely to be geared that way due to a higher sex drive and lower risk. Of course not all men, attractive or not, are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:47 PM
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Yes. The apex isnt some 10 out of 10 gorgeous woman, it's a giga chad and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:37 PM
2

Men definitely stay in sexless marriages. It's either because of no optionality (which makes sense considering the woman settled in one way or another) or some other circumstances like children. I'm not surprised you have not sympathy for that cohort of men, people seldom do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:05 PM
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Women are more willing to date men that aren't physically appealing to them, but that is because women dont find most men (in their cohort) attractive. Those guys find that out via dead bedroom scenarios and the utter lack of respect those women show them. Women are into various flavours of Chad ultimately. Men find a much broader range of women attractive so it is less of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:55 PM
1

This is a principal tenet of the black pill and it's nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:11 AM
0

Does this happen to you regularly? I had that person in my life once upon a time… hasnt happened in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:30 AM
2

I think he means the median is significantly below the mean which is probably true. Mean is a useless measure for salaries because of the nature of the income distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:19 PM
1

Well there is a measurable downside to a population decline. The fact of the matter is that this trend will eventually need to change or we will simply die out. Its just a matter of when and how.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:13 PM
0

Stop gaslighting this poor guy. If we are to use your analogy, it's more like the wizard spawns as level 100 in full bis while the warrior spawns in with level 1 in a level 50 zone with permadeath.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:06 PM
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Men are expendable full stop. I think this is what men need to realise to set themselves free. Most men are romantics. The understanding that women see relationships with men as business transactions is what lets you see the light. Every time I start falling for a woman that snaps me out of it immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 12:15 PM
2

No molding for your face (sans plastic surgery)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:38 AM
6

Men are more tolerant of ND partners than women. It is a very real barrier for men and can be a death sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:36 AM
7

Choose dog
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:23 AM
3

I think the 50-65% is a more realistic number in most countries in that age range. Due to a drop in natality, that pool of women is shrinking appreciably with each generation. So I think my point is still correct. It's just that when people say "most women are attractive", they think that in the implicit context of "most younger women" or "most women in my dating age range". I could make a guess that for women in their age range that number is 10% to 20%. For the total male population I wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:29 PM
1

Women rate men who they dont know very harshly on looks. The distribution has a significant right-skew. For men rating women the distribution is more normal. This changes once a certain degree of familiarity is involved. Women who know the men they rate, rate them in a normal distribution as well. Men seem on average less attractive since probably attractive traits weren't the ones they were selected for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:25 PM
6

Correlation does not neccesarily equal causation. I think the matter is studied enough that we can draw certain conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:46 PM
6

You actually proved her point. Go to a random place with a more or less representative sample of the population. Say a large mall. I would bet most women (18-80) will not register as a prospect because they are out of your age range or not attractive to you. Its just that with women, the pool is even smaller compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:45 PM
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I agree, this looks like something from a beginner data science tutorial. I wouldn't discredit it necessarily but it does warrant further investigation into their methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:01 PM
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By strangers? No. Most sexual assaults happen from someone the victim knows. So I guess it depends on the company your kid keeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:51 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I put my entire self into a relationship. However, we need to concede that there is an implicit power dynamic in every relationship. The second the woman loses respect for her man (attraction plays a part here), she checks out. It's just a way to prevent this and keep the relationship alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:42 PM
-1

Yeah it's super important not to let yourself go in a relationship - more so for men than women. Having that leverage makes you behave completely differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:29 AM
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Some do, some don't. I dont know how you would know what the majority thinks. I dont "support" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:49 AM
0

Young Monica Bellucci is a 10, then nothing for a while, then everyone esle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:09 AM
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Because of what we have discussed before - people dont think porn is a big deal - you will not get far with the argument you are asserting (female only content on porn subs). Its like trying to talk to a lion. Even if you spoke the same language your initial context is so different that you would not be able to understand him. I know what you mean and I see this means a lot to you. It's great to participate in these discussions but don't let it drain you of emotional energy. If you are experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:26 AM
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There is a lot of vitriol in these discussions because people feel aggrieved from both sides. High emotional charge. Reddit is very "sex-positive" in general and the site policy in allowing porn reflects that. Even if you are sex-positive I think its fair to say most so called sex positive people approve of porn to at least some degree. I think we need to decouple that with the discussion at hand because most people look at porn completely differently than I and very evidently you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:58 PM
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I dont understand why you are downvoting me, I am trying to participate in the discussion honestly. At any rate, I think you are comparing apples and oranges. One is about the people participating in the discussion and the other is about the type of content allowed on a specific subreddit. It's like a subreddit exists for say tomatoes but on that same subreddit pictures of carrots are not allowed. But again, everybody can participate. To be fair I agree that there should be female only spaces, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:44 PM
2

I'm not sure I fully understand you. The reverse of that would be "male only subs" but I'm sure that must exist. Again, both sexes can participate. In that sense, men arent allowed male only subs aswell. The equivalent you are looking for is men having a male only MRA subreddit, for instance. I'm not sure whether that exists or not. But if there is a double standard here, I am absolutely certain it is not in favor of men lol. We are second class citizens as per the rules of the site.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:36 PM
3

So tiresome.. He obviously means the western woman, the counterpart to the western man. Not that western men own western women. You could just as easily say western women and their men. You are being deliberately obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:26 PM
1

I dont watch porn (degenerate garbage, but then social media has the same brainrot effect on women) but if im not mistake "female only" means the content is female only. Anybody can post or watch it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:19 PM
8

well yes, have you seen the movie? Cypher wanted to go back cause the truth was unbearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:11 PM
-2

This is such a stupid semantic argument. Needs exist in a hierarchy. Physical needs sustain your body. Emotional needs sustain your mind. Sex is one foot on one end and one foot in the other. Would you say someone trapped in a small cage with food, water and heat has all their needs meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:46 PM
0

Accountability is the female Waterloo. They reason through things perfectly well until they need to look deep down at their own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:40 PM
1

There is a sizable (one could argue ever-growing) population of men that women want absolutely nothing to do with. Genetic dead-ends. It's not an issue of "just communicate bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:35 PM
4

Men are also at risk from other men. In fact men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:27 AM
2

There are also sites like 12 foot ladder that attempt to break the paywall. Sometimes it works: https://12ft.io
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:43 PM
4

Ukranian men try to dodge the draft aswell. If they get caught, they get sent to the frontline. While the women leave the country, dump their men and get railed by Chad. I was pretty disillusioned by women beforehand but this singular thing made me check out completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:27 AM
1

Well that is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:51 AM
2

I think you built up a strawman. Needs are organized in a hierarchy and water, food and shelter are at the very base level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:26 AM
2

If they say “you are the first guy to treat me nice”, run for the hills
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:07 AM
0

It is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:18 PM
2

2 to 3 years of lifting will get you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:08 PM
3

Enough to be simply mediocre to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:41 PM
2

Well this system is not sustainable and some point will self correct. We might not like what that entails but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:42 AM
3

Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:36 AM
8

You definitely need to be toned. Like a swimmers physique. But jacked by gymbro standards? No
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:13 AM
1

They work for tear troughs. You could also get a cantaloplasty but its kind of risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:53 AM
2

Hair transplant and full on orthognatic surgery for me. Easy peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:46 AM
1

No. Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:12 AM
1

This is what people mean when they say “tutorial mode”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:05 PM
3

I am looking for genuine human connection, mutual desire. I can just wack it if i need my base desire fulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:22 AM
1

They are technically fertile, however conception is progressively more difficult. It's a shitty situation all around. The current state of things is not conducive to our biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:47 PM
6

It's just an evolution of the red pill. One of the sillier rules of this sub if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:39 PM
3

Its not about muscles. A man should be toned but he does not at all need to be muscle bound. 2 to 3 years of 3-4x per week lifting is enough. You need to be toned and lean. Except for niche of gym girls but thats a niche of a niche. In terms of physical appearance, its more about markers of good genetics. face, frame, height. If your frame is garbage (narrow shoulders, wide hips so that there is no v-taper to speak of) and your face is disharmonious, adding on muscles will just make you look lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:19 PM
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Women do often make the first move. Just not overtly. It comes in the form of some sort of indicator of interest. A lot od men never get to experience though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:17 PM
2

This is not a sustainable model
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:14 PM
3

An incredibly stupid, reductive argument. If i reduce your argument to absurdity, prisoners in the russian black dolphin prison are having all their needs met because they have toilet water and moldy bread once a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:10 PM
2

Please stop. I was physically abused by my ex. It's not like once she throws the first punch or throws a plate at my face I get to piledrive her into oblivion. A man is expected to diffuse with as little force as possible, risking further harm. Female on male violence has an insidious presence due to the stigma involved for the man. It is way more common than you seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:21 PM
6

No, batshit insane take. Nice bait though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:39 PM
1

considering what red pillers aspire to is spinning plates I dont think this is a universal truth. In fact, this is more of a PUA thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:16 AM
0

There is surgery for the short guy. You probably wouldnt want to do it but it is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:06 AM
17

That's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:59 AM
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I don't "feel" anything. I know they are wrong. Men have a much harder time getting into a long term relationship. I am not even sure the opposite is a position anyone from the opposing aisle would maintain. I have never heard of it at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:50 AM
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Low IQ cope post. Even a below average looking woman has no issues finding an LTR provided her standards for looks are not high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:26 AM
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Most women have to deal with only a subset of problems that men have to deal with. The funnel for men is tighter at the top end so they dont have the luxury to explore the entire breadth of challenges and must settle for less sooner if they dont want to end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:06 AM
2

This is exactly why the red pill came into existence. It spells things out for men so that they are prepared for this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:49 PM
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I agree with literally nothing you have said so we have nothing to discuss here. As far as I am concerned women are increasingly the oppressor class in the West in the 21st century. Crying out in pain as they strike you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:07 PM
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The whole "men are the oppressors" trope is tired and nobody serious believes it anymore. The average man oppresses no one, is expected to give more than he gets or he is considered useless. You have a class issue more than a gender one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 01:00 PM
0

The guys that proclaim anybody being mid are usually fat, balding with halitosis and BO. I have a coworker like that. He is a weird guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:00 AM
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Most dont. But they dont have a good reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:48 PM
5

No, IQ is largely genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:14 PM
4

Or she is looking to rile up lonely men with a confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:23 PM
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There are all sorts of male dominance hierarchies. Women in those localities will gravitate towards them. A competent nerd with a good face and good frame (not necessarily super muscular, just toned) will be more succesful than an ogre looking, bald bodybuilder with women who are involved with more intellectual pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 10:55 AM
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I have been stopped by my inability to dance. I get hints a lot but i just dont want to embarrass myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 11:49 AM
2

Basically this. I would add hair transplant surgery if you are losing hair or a genioplasty if you have a weak chin. Its all very affordable if you have a decent job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:07 PM
2

This is precisely correct and much closer to any other alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:03 PM
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You are right. Very likely the account owner is just a kid still. This kind of Disneyesque expectation of love is juvenile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:26 AM
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If women are objects, men are cattle / beasts of burden. I am not sure which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:37 PM
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"Male humans are socialized to be entitled to female attention." I think this is false. Atleast in my broader circle, males are socialised that they are entitled to nothing. Of the two sexes, females are much more entitled in the 21st century in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:56 PM
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I agree. On a personal level, I dont think having a high body count is desirable. But the majority of men do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:18 PM
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Yes. Also, the wall is a massive cope. Although if they want a family, they will have to compromise. Eventually at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:41 PM
1

Seems like a reasonable position
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:33 PM
2

Do you think gender is completely decoupled from interests? Or do they correlate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:10 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:41 PM
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I agree. I think its easy to interpret generalisations as universal truths if you are terminally online. Unfortunately the world is more complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:08 PM
1

Women converge on preferences more than men. Some men interpret this as hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:53 AM
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You are taking what i say too literally. Women gauge men by a fitness function programmed into them at birth. The details are culturally and environmentally specific. But in modern times this is minimised (various factors like globalisation and women’s suffrage)and the biological substrate gained prominence above and beyond what recent history shows. Most women do not find most men attractive. But for the ones who do there is by and large a consensus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:53 AM
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Trenbolone is a surefire way to fuck up your health, permanently. Do not envy them, pity them. The only women you will attract are bottom rung, the type you want nothing to do with. Women look for signs of genetic fitness not super large muscles. Broad shoulders, low body fat, which means a nice v taper. Height and face. Face being more important. Toned, not ripped. The bodybuilder looks is male gaze. Health means genetic fitness. Get rid of your overbite. Cure your sleep apnea. Fix your asthma.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:29 AM
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Not in the strict sense, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:27 AM
2

Women are more of a hive mind than men are. There is just more variety in the male of most species.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:20 AM
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No they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:40 PM
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From the perspective of a man, one is very clearly worse than the other. I can understand how a woman would see the latter worse than the former. But a lot of women engage in this willingly I think, if the man is attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:59 AM
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I actually understand what you mean.. In totality though, I think you (majority of women) and the majority of men live their life on such vastly different terms that any discussion is rendered moot. The words that come out might sound the same but the meanings and the context of words are so different that you might as well be talking to an alien.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:48 AM
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I would agree with your assessment, it holds true at least for my social bubble. I am in my early thirties. Majority of my peers are either in LTR's or checked out completely, doing their own thing. Nobody I know is actively "dating".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:35 AM
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Evolutionarily, men are disposable. Nobody is coming to help you, much less a woman. Invest in yourself and what progresses your goals. If you dont have your own goals, you have much bigger things to worry about than getting a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:50 AM
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This is a assuming that online sample is representative of the general population. You could argue both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:03 PM
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Nah, lifting has nothing to do with "manning up". It's more of a "lift heavy stone, make sad head voice go away" type of activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:59 AM
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Thats some olympic tier gymnastics. A woman who gets around increases chance for paternity fraud. Biologically paternal uncertainty is cut and dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:35 PM
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Well, if we assume a society still exists, there has to be an economy that supports it. There will be job openings and there will be a certain cohort of women that will want to fill those jobs assuming a high enough incentive. The output probably wont be the same but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:57 PM
1

No, class above all. A patrician woman was definitely above a slave or a plebeian man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:51 PM
-2

Don't let people guilt-trip you into letting go of the "no porn" standard. Porn is of the devil and is male the equivalent of a social-media obsessed woman. Both are absolute poison for the human mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:18 PM
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I think you have a very specific form of red pill in mind. To me "red pill" is the euphemism for truth. As in, you refuse to participate in the western mating shibboleth and instead face the truth head on. What people do with that is their own prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:12 PM
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I find the concept of one not "earning" their cynicism interesting. Did you come up with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:45 AM
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If anyone, its men on the self improvement and personal growth meme. It wont help most of them because the genetic underpinnings just arent there and they will still be oofy doofies to some 32 year old with Chads child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:48 AM
3

What surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:06 PM
2

What strength tret do u use?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:05 AM
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If you work inside and take care of yourself a 30 year old man does not show significant signs of aging. Even balding is fixable. Most men just put in 0 effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:55 AM
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Damn, no need for that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 01:28 PM
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Utter stupidity to assume things. We were 28. I was commited. We were living together for a while. I just started making good money, i could not afford the wedding before. We were engaged for 6 months berore she broke it off. I was fighting until the end. Did i make mistakes along the way? Sure. That does not excuse one iota what she did. Break it off if u want. It would hurt but i get it. Living an alternative life destroyed both me and her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:06 PM
2

Is this supposed to be a jab at me not marrying her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:01 PM
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The way i found this sub and the pills is that my girlfriend of 14 years had an affair with a married man, her coworker, for 2 years. When she broke up with me she didnt even tell me the truth. I had to find out from a family friend that knows someone from her work. Its these sorts of experiences that make a person cynical, it doesnt just happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:30 AM
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I suppose it depends on your definition. I didnt mean to invoke pity, i dont think absence of happiness is suffering. A man is as good as the goals he pursues and the impact he has on the world. Strength through competency. So thats where my dedication is. I suppose I am in pursuits of eudaimonia. But idk if that is what most women (or men) define as happiness. Mostly people are chasing ephemeral pleasures and calling it happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:15 PM
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Happiness is for women and children. I havent felt happy since I was in my teens. Thats not the point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:11 PM
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You are being difficult for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 10:24 AM
3

You addressed me directly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:00 AM
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I can gauge a woman’s interest quite well these days. She will make it easy even if the man pushes the envelope a bit. No need for expensive dates until after she is my woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:39 AM
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Yeah i think women should be guarded / protective of their sexuality. I agree it makes no sense for a woman to have casual sex.And it makes no sense for a man looking for a mate to compromise in this aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:35 AM
-2

Its a revulsion or disgust on a primal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:12 AM
2

If you think sex is the only reason why you need self development its already over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:54 PM
-3

Relationships work best when the man is on his purpose and the woman is the adorer. If this ever flips she loses respect and the timer until she dumps him starts ticking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 03:14 PM
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No bail for me. If a woman would actually be as described in would find ways to connect. Tbh if sue was as like that i think that is chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:13 PM
2

Women divorce women at higher rates than men divorce men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:36 PM
0

The 100 to 1 ratio is highly unusual and will bring out the worst in any species.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:26 PM
8

It’s not as simple as you make it out to be. A lot of men get burned by opening up, me included.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:07 PM
8

Trans men are in for a rude awakening once they pass for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:14 AM
1

Keep the standards as long as they are not wildly out there. Much better to be miserable alone than in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:20 AM
1

Its a 2D scale. One could theoretically max out on both traits. That would put him in the Prince Charming category, which is extremely rare
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 04:08 AM
1

Why is it crazy? Men and women have diametrically opposing sexual strategies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 04:04 AM
2

The second a first actual war or natural disaster comes about the roles will reset. The current situation is being propped up by the labor of anonymous men. Women are net takers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:11 AM
5

I mean, if you Jeremy Meeks tier looks this actually does happen. Guy married a literal billionaire heiress
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:33 PM
2

Hahahahahaha, just happens to be tall. Thats great
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:00 AM
5

Why is it your favourite? Sounds like an awful waste of human life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:06 AM
3

Women still need men, but the government acts as a substitute, a proxy. So a woman does not need a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:01 AM
-5

And that threahols not only exists but is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:44 AM
5

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:09 PM
6

Its fine for men to be an underclass, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:25 PM
1

More power to you. Good luck long term if she doesnt geniunely love you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:54 PM
5

I want her body and her soul. Anything else is just masturbation to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:48 PM
23

This has been my experience. I have only had 2 but ONS leave me deflated. I am in the courtship process with a lady now, we are taking things slow but the enthusiasm I see in her eyes and hear in her voice every time she talks to me makes my soul sing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:56 PM
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We are below replacement. Pretty much across the board. The rebalancing you speak of is not coming, atleast not before a severely unpleasant event horizon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:07 PM
1

A man pays one way or another unless a woman decides to give herself out for free via ons. Paying for sex with fiat is the cheapest way to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:34 PM
1

You are speaking the truth. That guy is living in lalaland.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:10 PM
-1

He has tons of options and you weren’t worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:15 PM
10

The male expendability theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:48 AM
1

Where did the 10 lifetime partner count stat come from? Seems outrageously high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:39 AM
6

Almost everyone trusted their partner when they got cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:17 AM
7

Exactly. In fact very attractive women can secure the commitment of a high value man and dont feel the need to sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 09:14 AM
-3

Whoring around only hurts you, noone else. Let it rip
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:34 PM
1

As women climb income levels, they find harder to secure commitment from men the desire. The opposite is true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:30 AM
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Its more a lack of clothing. That men ponder about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:20 AM
2

Precisely. This is also the root cause behind the “where have all the good men gone” sentiment. More and more of them are prices out of the market by… hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:48 PM
15

The bar keeps getting lower. Where is James Cameron when you need him? These levels of simping shouldnt be possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:12 AM
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They are still too high, i guess. Or maybe she means Chads standard for commitment are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:02 AM
1

Agreed and i think thats fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 12:52 PM
1

I meant specifically about the double standard around the butt stuff. I tried to remove the issue of hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:06 PM
2

Im not judging, just curious. I would agree to that. I love girls butts. Dont want mine fiddled with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 06:48 PM
4

Why wont you return the favor? Say he keeps it neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:29 PM
2

All this guy is saying is dont be a guy a woman settles for after getting passed around by chad in her twenties. Those guys got her best for free, so dont be the idiot that pays for an older, less attractive version.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:12 PM
1

Seems to me you need counselling. You have insecurities about your astronomic body count and you project
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:58 PM
1

Genuine burning desire is hard to fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:20 PM
1

I think there are biological underpinnings to this phenomenon. The women are wonderful effect comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:39 PM
1

Theres a correlation. Attractive males tend to become sexually active earlier than their peers. I dont see the necessity to be combative. Learn how to have a discussion, it will help you in all aspects of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:33 PM
1

Because genetic engineering isnt a thing yet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:20 PM
3

Yeah. It usually happens when theres a discrepancy in SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:35 PM
1

And how many more men did you bang and they lost interest shortly thereafter?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:22 PM
0

You are not connecting or bonding with a man you know for 3 hours. You are getting fucked. And a woman like that is ultimately untrustworthy. The male equivalent is a John and not so called manwhores which actually takes significant effort to become one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:32 PM
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Low effort access to sex is the ultimate male sexual strategy. If a girl is dumb enough to give it up for free thats on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:45 PM
3

Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:41 PM
1

Would you take his last name if that was his condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:40 PM
6

Its not the loophole women think it is. It just means i wasnt interesting enough/desire isnt there and i move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:06 AM
1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternity_fraud#Occurrence Sure. Make sure to check the case law aswell. Guys having to pay despite the child not being his.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:57 PM
3

Competency distribution is normal but the curve for men is heavier on the tail ends. This is on a genetic level. Since women are hypergamous, men have a much higher incentive to fight for the top spots versus women. Tipping the scale in the favour of women more than it is currently (which is already substantial), will further exacerbate societal problems not fix them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:53 PM
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There are plenty of statistics online. They are shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:05 AM
6

Men adapt to womens preferences. Since women prefer traditionally masculine traits that is what will be encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:48 PM
14

AWALT, to a large degree. Most women arent aware of their biases
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:42 PM
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You are playing into the male sexual strategy not vice versa, assumimg much higher risk in both possibilts of pregnancy and reputational damage. Also much worse prospect for a long term relationship for the guy unfortunate enough to get hitched to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:01 PM
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Is having fun an euphemysm for getting passed around by chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:30 PM
17

A decline of birth rates of this magnitude is unprecedented and we are below replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 11:54 PM
13

Poor fuckboys, i cry every time. They get to empty their balls without any of the effort and obligation. 0 investment for sexual access is peak male sexual strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 01:47 PM
8

None of what you are preaching makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:50 PM
0

Depends on the context but on the whole i agree, i more meant on here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:07 PM
-6

So you are healthy and well adjusted. Extremely rare sight
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:11 PM
9

Women decide on sex, men with options decide on relationships, men without get the crumbs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:21 PM
1

I start dancing lessons in the new year. There were just too many situations that I couldn’t take advantage of because I’m not confident dancing. I will look into the harmonica.. the thought never occurred to me but it makes sense. Thanks for the tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:25 PM
3

No. Men have to adapt to what women prefer pr they dont get to mate. This is true for the vast majority of the animal kingdom, humankind just has a very complicated process in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:38 AM
1

They are not more moral, they just see their options reduced
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:47 AM
1

Im walking this same path. Although i picked up dancing, not an instrument. What do you play?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:43 AM
17

Yep. Was out yesterday - had a married woman hold my hand for a while until she figured out its a bad look (cold outside and the excuse was shes cold so she needs to put hands in my coat pocket). And another married woman explaining how she remembers the first time she met me she felt this “energy”. I did nothing to provoke any of these interactions. Im sure they love their husbands but I would love to know how they rationalize this in their brain that it’s ok to do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 10:36 AM
2

You can either love women or understand them. No in between
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:49 PM
1

I am not going to debate whether women are genetically inclined to nurturing behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:55 PM
1

The inclination is genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:25 PM
1

Women propose.. just not directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:24 PM
7

Nothing you said is wrong. Ultimately a string lure is more effective than any net because the woman will self select
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:37 AM
2

Until you get a damaged girl that makes her issues your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:24 AM
3

And they are right, they should be anxious about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:14 AM
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What an asinine take
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:07 AM
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Paternity tests are about paternal certainty. I will do the test whether she likes it or not and I won’t tell her about it. If the test ends up negative i will rescind paternity. If not i will love and support that kid until the day i die. The stakes are too high, especially considering the state of the modern western woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:03 AM
-1

There are indirect ways you can determine this. You wont get an exact figure but as you get to know her the mask will slip, especially if you make it seem like you are super cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:04 AM
6

Women lie about n counts all the time. Its the same deal here. The other side doesnt care about them and its highly damaging but hey its low investment and the fuck is guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:53 AM
6

Considering the divorce rates and the fact that women trigger the majority of them, its not risk assessment but straight up gambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:50 AM
1

Very respectable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:55 PM
20

Why are you making shit up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:09 AM
7

Being good has nothing to do with attractiveness. They lack masculinity first and foremost. Women will friendzone the nice guy and chase the maaculine guy even if he is an asshole. Thing is, they will chase good, masculine men even harder. But as long as they dont solve that part of the equation, the end result they will not be the objects of desire that they want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 09:02 AM
1

N counta definitely do matter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:45 PM
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V taper is more analogous to female hourglass shape. I dont think there is a good analogue gor height. Women are just pickier and their tastes more homogenous than mens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:29 PM
10

You are gross
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 10:09 PM
2

I likes the analogy. What dont you like about it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:51 AM
2

Red pill is not about getting pussy. Its about seeing women and their nature for what it is. About how women operate. Not a good or bad thing, just it is what it is. For example, the reason why i turned the last woman down is because of a questionable sexual past. A nice girl in almost all respects, but im not commiting to someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:00 AM
1

I am a guy and i am telling you that is not the case. I am actively turning women down because I am looking for a kindred soul, not a masturbatory aid. This is imperative if you want to start a life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:08 AM
2

Lesbians tend to become downright frigid. There is even a term calles lesbian bed death.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:44 PM
1

That is a bit late. If you have the money, Dr Zarev can bring it back. Check out his work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:35 PM
1

Get on finasteride and get a transplant to patch up what is needed. Balding is a solved problem for the majority of men who want to do something about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:23 PM
11

This is the principal reason why high count women should be avoided at all costs. Commiting to a person with that much baggage is reckless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:26 AM
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Women rate men they know differently to men they dont know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:56 AM
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Women are arguably more visual and monolithic when it comes to what they find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 10:51 AM
1

Decline in birth rates is a massive problem. The west is below replacement. This has massive repercussions for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:45 PM
3

Yes. The current system isnt maintainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:13 AM
3

Because you live an extremely priviliged life. Wait until a serious war happens. Women revert to their primal roles real quick
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:03 AM
0

Theres a huge category of men who are crazy about big girls
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:49 PM
2

No
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:13 PM
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One Google search tells a story. These guys just set their demands incredibly high. Body of work doesnt include papers published in Nature? Trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 06:23 AM
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And money.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:48 PM
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Its not. Plenty of studies on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:36 PM
2

How would that be different in say, a laissez faire system where stores exists i just dont have to subsidize other peoples choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:48 PM
2

How do I benefit from the dude hauling shopping carts having 3 kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 01:29 PM
-10

Lucky guy that ends up with you lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:00 PM
2

Women are net benefactors of the system, men pay in more than they give. Brood mare vs worker ant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:32 AM
0

No, its a pretty decent chunk of guys. Things start getting interesting after one std. Dev.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:29 AM
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Self improvement should be its own purpose as it effects every aspect of your life, dating included. Fixating on women quite frankly is pathetic. All my relationships women kind of tagged along
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:36 PM
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I only able to afford an M3A3 Bradley. Do u think it will hurt my chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:18 PM
0

No
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:24 AM
6

Women still need men, but they are now crowdfunded via a nanny state.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:38 PM
2

This is purely visually speaking. Women value establishes men, men generally care a lot less if a woman has a career. Establishing takes time. I am getting a lot more attention at 31 vs when i was 26 ( granted i was in a LTR for the entirety of m 20s)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:37 PM
3

Thats just like, your opinion, man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:30 PM
1

I rejected women with an extensive history and prefer a more plain girl with values that align with mine. Looks really dont matter that much past the initial attraction as much as everything else. Of course if you are used as a sex toy thats the major component.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:29 PM
0

Women dont cheat for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:17 PM
4

Yeah, turns out old institutions exist for reasons that are aeons old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:07 PM
10

Women care about looks way more than men do wrt short term relationships. If he is hot enough he can get away with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:03 PM
1

I can guarantee you that is not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:43 AM
2

This is horrific
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:57 AM
1

Hair loss drugs can have that effect. They do for many. Its a win win in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 08:38 AM
1

The fact that we have managed to separate this is why we are on a downward spiral morally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:00 AM
1

Male smv peaks late 30s. More time to get the bag, pack on muscle and get lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:37 AM
1

1 is controllable and even reversable if you give a shit enough to get on treatment early.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:36 AM
2

Everything except dying is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:14 AM
1

Get close to her and say something like: I think I wanna kiss you. Her split second reaction will tell you everything. You have to be pretty sure shes into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:54 AM
2

Dumb take. I dont date guys, am i discriminating against guys as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:19 AM
0

my relationship with these people is not sexual in nature and so I have different criteria. Men or women. Live and let live. I just dont consider women like that for romantic relationship. Just recently was such situation, where a 31 year old lady i knew for a good while as a coworker got close, described her escapades and then later on bawled her eyes out on how she wants something different/better. If I wanted to I could take advantage. Im sure a sizable amount of guys would. Instead i just le…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:54 AM
1

No double standard. Im okay with serial monogamy. I am a serial monogamist myself. Sans the cant live without an SO bit. Just how i was brought up. Very low body count. Not okay with random hookups, fwbs, party girls, etc. Theres a primal disgust in me that i just stop seeing these people in a sexual way. Its really not hard to figure this out because women talk about this liberally once they let their guard down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:42 AM
3

Guys need to be lean to attract women. A decent cut imposes at least 500 calorie deficit per day, while training to not lose muscle mass. You live life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:27 AM
1

The only predictor of future behavior is past behavior. These girls carry baggage you dont want to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:59 AM
1

If she gave someone her sexual best and acts like a nun with a negative body count around you. She just doesnt see you that way. Your problem wont go away. You will keep asking yourself why. It will eat at you until revulsion will set in you and you wont be able to stand her even touching you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:34 AM
5

I guess. I just dont give as much emphasis on the physical for me to discount the dangers of dating someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:02 PM
7

Imagine being the poor guy putting a ring on THAT finger. Jesus Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:35 AM
2

Less adaptable could very well leas to extinction
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:40 PM
1

If a woman is attracted she will make it easy for the man. Like really easy. Right man can do no wrong, wrong man can do no right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:45 PM
2

Awalt is just a mental model that helps you override your emotional self when it comes to reasoning about a particular girl. It’s kinda like Occam’s razor. It will work most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:15 AM
1

That’s just collateral damage
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:16 PM
1

You bet your ass i would choose for my daughters if that were a possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 08:13 PM
5

Men date 10 women at once if they can. A woman that gets a high value man dates him until she can monkeybranch to an even better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:56 PM
8

Ah yes, the “women bring value by merely existing” bit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:01 AM
6

Even if you believe it’s generally possible, you can still think it’s out of reach for you personally. Paints a bleak picture
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:56 AM
2

With birthrates as unsustainable as they are, whatever system and cultural structure we are transitioning to is dead on arrival.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:58 PM
17

That doesn’t sound healthy dude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:35 PM
2

Black pill just means you think physical attraction is the end all be all of getting laid and of you are so called subfive you are done. That’s where looksmaxxing comes in
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:30 PM
1

Ik not saying you are. Just a general comment on your observation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 08:09 PM
1

Oh no, sex with loads of women, woe is me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:11 PM
2

Thinking detaching the two is healthy is ridiculous. There’s a whole subfield in social pathology dedicated to debunking this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:24 PM
2

A lot of guys give a fuck. Its a huge point if contention.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:17 PM
7

Most men want to be that irresistible pizza rather than bland oatmeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:24 PM
2

Things should be as spelled out as possible in a discussion like this. Being too vague is a much bigger problem, we can’t see what’s going on inside your head
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:29 PM
3

Good luck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:27 PM
1

I dont and have rejected women on that basis. But this discussions is more on the level of populations and not individuals. Im not passing judgement on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:57 AM
5

If the smart one is indeed the smart one and he has options, it makes zero sense for him to seriously date the town bicycle. Such a girl is a bad long term prospect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 05:21 AM
2

There’s a lot less women going to the gym. 2 women for every 10 men in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 05:57 AM
5

We are dying dude. Babies arent being made. Our society is sick and the pill and the womens liberation movement plays a large part. I dont even like that thats the fact but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:15 PM
3

Beautiful summation of what red pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:05 AM
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