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–	I don’t respect women who expect chivalry beyond basic respect, the same basic respect that everyone is entitled to, regardless of gender. You don’t have to as I’m sure even men in your own area who you think are being nice still see you as incapable. A lot of them are also trying to get a piece of ass. Now me personally, I hold the door open for everyone. Because it’s not based on chivalry. It’s based on being a decent human and treating everyone the same way I want to be treated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/26 07:17 PM
–	I don’t respect women who expect chivalry beyond basic respect, the same basic respect that everyone is entitled to, regardless of gender. Have you noticed that even today, chivalry is very prominent among MAGA’s? This is why. They don’t view women as equals. They will hold the door open and pay for dinner but at the same time will take away your reproductive rights.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/26 07:12 PM
–	I don’t respect women who expect chivalry beyond basic respect, the same basic respect that everyone is entitled to, regardless of gender. Traditional chivalry comes from benevolent sexism. It’s the belief that men are capable actors and women are dependents requiring male care. It was built from patriarchal assumptions about women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/26 07:04 PM
–	I don’t respect women who expect chivalry beyond basic respect, the same basic respect that everyone is entitled to, regardless of gender. Racism is a cultural norm some places too though. Should they also not reject that? This type of chivalry is also rooted in misogyny. It comes from a time when women were deemed helpless and inferior. So of if I took part in this type of chivalry, it would be because I didn’t view her as an equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/26 06:56 PM
10	Undesirable men should be taxed more And what if their kid grows up to be a loser or even worse, incarcerated? Not to mention women are the largest recipients of welfare benefits and pay the least amount of income tax.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/26 11:29 PM
8	Undesirable men should be taxed more Women are a bigger tax burden doe	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/26 11:11 PM
6	Men have lower standards because they have to, not because they want to. That’s not a fact about women. That’s an internet take that gets repeated so often on gender-war engagement platforms that people who spend their lives online start mistaking it for reality. Reddit isn’t the real world. It’s just very good at convincing its most chronically online users that it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/26 03:36 PM
9	Men have lower standards because they have to, not because they want to. Those two responses literally contradict each other. I point out that most fat men have no problem dating fat women, and you say, “How did that change a single thing I said?” Then I say a fit man has fewer quality options, and suddenly your rebuttal is, “Fat women don’t stop being options just because you don’t like them.” So fat women being options for fat men is irrelevant to your argument, but fat women being “options” for fit men who don’t want them somehow disproves mine? You’re changing wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/26 01:37 PM
3	Men have lower standards because they have to, not because they want to. Most fat men have no problem with a fat woman though. Many even prefer it. If they didn’t, there wouldn’t be terms like curvy, thicc, etc and BBW wouldn’t be one of the most clocked on genre of porn. But considering the average woman is fat, the average fit guy has very few quality options considering we see fat for what it really is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/26 01:09 PM
8	Men have lower standards because they have to, not because they want to. I will say my standards are more reasonable than women. I have preferences I’m not trying to die on a hill over and far fewer dealbreaker. But with that being said, if I feel I lowered my standards, the relationship is going to be more short term and you’re not going to be any kind of priority. Now I am pretty fit, attractive and fairly successful. But I’m also 5’7” which does remove me from a lot of women’s checklists. But considering so many of these women complain they’re having a hard time d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/26 12:36 PM
–	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? You just proved my point. You admittedly don’t care why a man isn’t pursuing you. You simply check “no” and apparently interpret that as him failing to demonstrate competence or traditional masculinity. But how do you know the problem is him? Maybe he isn’t passive at all. Maybe he actively pursues women he actually wants and you didn’t give him a reason to want you. If every lack of pursuit gets dismissed as “he wasn’t man enough to take charge,” you’ve constructed a worldview where you never h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 01:50 PM
1	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? You’re still assuming the woman is the selector and the man is essentially auditioning for her approval. That’s the entire flaw in your argument. Of course you can lose interest if a man doesn’t pursue you the way you want. Nobody said otherwise. But you’re assuming he had enough interest in you to pursue you in the first place. Maybe you never gave him a reason to be interested. Maybe he doesn’t like your personality. Maybe there’s no sexual chemistry. Maybe after sex he realizes he isn’t attra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 01:37 PM
0	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? That’s a convenient way to avoid every point I actually made. You couldn’t address the argument about pursuit, confidence or your supposed Red Pill “abundance,” so now we’re arguing semantics over the word “marriage-like.” I was engaged to one woman and didn’t marry her because she cheated on me. I spent years with my younger son’s mother and made it clear I wouldn’t marry her unless she addressed her alcoholism. Neither situation demonstrates an inability to commit or some failure to understand…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 01:26 PM
1	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? Having sex with 100+ women over the course of my life doesn’t mean I’m incapable of long-term relationships or courtship. I’ve had marriage-like relationships lasting anywhere from 5 to 13 years. I just happen to enjoy being single when I’m single. You’re treating sexual history and the ability to commit as though they’re mutually exclusive. They aren’t. I’m perfectly capable of traditional courtship with a woman who actually makes me want that kind of relationship. I know because I’ve already l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 12:39 PM
3	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? Did you even read what I wrote? What “behavior” am I supposedly making excuses for? A man not pursuing a woman hard enough? That’s literally the assumption I’m criticizing. And where did “men they don’t find attractive” even come from? The entire point is that she may be attracted to him while he simply isn’t interested enough in her to pursue her. Apparently a man becomes “unattractive” the moment he doesn’t provide the attention and validation she expected? Not chasing a woman isn’t bad behavi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 10:02 AM
2	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? Calling this “weirdly personal” feels more like a deflection than an answer to what I’m actually challenging. I used myself as an example because I can give you the perspective of a man who isn’t desperate for female attention. That’s a counterexample to your premise, not a personal attack on you. You keep bouncing between two different claims: “I personally don’t like this behavior” and “this behavior is passive.” The first is a preference. Nobody is arguing that you aren’t allowed to lose inte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 04:14 AM
2	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? She absolutely has the right to move on. But you’re still assuming that a man who isn’t immediately pursuing must be disinterested, rather than simply not interested enough yet to pursue. Those aren’t the same thing. And ironically, that filter can select for the exact opposite of what you’re calling confidence. The thirsty guy who aggressively pursues every attractive woman immediately passes your “confident man” test. Meanwhile, the guy who’s comfortable with himself, has options, doesn’t need…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 04:07 AM
1	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? You’re still assuming “not pursuing me” = passive behavior. That’s exactly what I’m questioning. Passivity describes someone failing to act despite wanting or needing to act. You haven’t established that he wanted to pursue her in the first place. Maybe she simply hadn’t given him a reason to be interested yet. Maybe he was neutral, still getting to know her, had other options, or just doesn’t chase women based on initial attraction alone. Her becoming interested first doesn’t suddenly create an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/26 02:14 AM
0	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? I’d argue she might now have gave him a reason to be interested in yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/26 11:57 PM
2	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? You’re still assuming his behavior revolves around you. Not pursuing you isn’t “passivity.” He doesn’t owe you pursuit, initiative, or even an explanation for why he hasn’t asked you out. Maybe he doesn’t chase women. Maybe he has other priorities. Maybe he’s mildly interested but hasn’t decided whether he wants anything more. Maybe the rumor mill exaggerated his interest. Maybe he simply doesn’t want you enough to do anything about it. None of those things make him passive. You’re starting with…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/26 11:29 PM
1	Do women cover the tab on the rare occasions they ask men out for a date? Why are you assuming they’re passive? A man not asking you out doesn’t necessarily mean he’s too timid or passive to do it. Maybe he doesn’t chase women. Maybe he wasn’t initially interested enough to pursue you. Maybe he was still figuring out whether he was attracted to you at all, and you happened to become interested first. Calling that “passivity” seems to start from the assumption that you’re automatically the prize and any interested, sufficiently masculine man should naturally pursue you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/26 10:56 PM
3	White knights and simps need to stop it. Most women I know would call these men “baby back bitches.” 😂 You can love and respect women without self-loathing, putting women on a pedestal, or reflexively defending them from every criticism. That’s the distinction being missed here. A “white knight” isn’t simply a man who respects women. It’s the guy who is conspicuously over-accommodating toward women and rushes to their defense regardless of whether the criticism is actually valid, often because he thinks being the “niceguy” will earn hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/26 03:30 AM
0	Most above average men want kids and I think a lot of women that want a child-free life don’t fully realize that. Reddit desperately needs a disclaimer that says, “The opinions expressed here are not representative of the general population.” Spend enough time on PPD and you’d think half of women are proudly childfree, nobody meets organically anymore, approaching someone anywhere is harassment, and every relationship is a spreadsheet of height, income, and “sexual market value.” Then you go outside and discover something shocking: most people aren’t conducting their lives according to Reddit discourse. PPD…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/26 04:47 AM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity I understand perfectly well that assortative mating and hypergamy aren’t identical. Two people selecting each other because they’re in approximately the same socioeconomic class is assortative mating. Selecting or preferring a partner above your own socioeconomic position is hypergamy. I haven’t confused the definitions. But you’ve now moved from arguing that socioeconomic status isn’t particularly important to explicitly saying, “people like dating within their socioeconomic bracket because the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 04:18 AM
3	hot take: men need to adapt more feminine traits to resolve the gender war No, men just need to leave social media. I can’t say I encounter any of these people outside, touching grass.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 04:01 AM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity The statistic you’re citing doesn’t establish what you think it establishes. Yes, wives outearning husbands has increased. But Pew’s Census-based analysis still found only 16% of opposite-sex marriages had a wife who was the sole or primary breadwinner in 2022, compared with 55% where the husband was the sole or primary breadwinner. Another 29% were roughly equal earners. So we’ve clearly moved toward greater economic equality, but that isn’t evidence that socioeconomic status has stopped matter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 03:06 AM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity I think you’re working backwards here. You’ve decided what I’m describing must be “red pill,” so now anything I say that resembles a conclusion you associate with red pill becomes evidence that I got it from red pill. And yes, I introduced the term hypergamy. But hypergamy isn’t some concept invented by the red pill. The term and concept long predate the modern red-pill/manosphere movement and have been discussed in sociology and anthropology for generations. A modern internet ideology using an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 02:45 AM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity You keep returning to men leaving sick wives, but that isn’t the phenomenon I’m describing. You’re arguing about abandonment during cancer. I’m talking about what happens after cancer, when treatment is over and everyone thinks you’re supposed to go back to normal. I’m talking about the period after you ring the bell and “beat cancer,” but your old life doesn’t magically reappear. You’re trying to get your health back, find work, rebuild your finances and reconstruct a life that cancer blew apar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 02:25 AM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity I absolutely would change my mind if differing experiences consistently gave me a reason to. That’s how changing your mind works. But “someone else has a different experience” doesn’t automatically invalidate years of my own experiences either. And this isn’t limited to my dating history or the people I supposedly “surround myself with.” I’m involved with a major men’s cancer organization, and what happens to men during and after cancer is a recurring topic among guys from very different backgro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/26 02:06 AM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity Sorry, but I only listen to two podcasts: Mind Pump and The Model Health Show. Neither has anything to do with gender politics, so that’s a swing and a miss. And yes, I’d absolutely understand why a woman who’s repeatedly had similar experiences with men would develop certain views. We all form beliefs from patterns we observe. The difference is that I’d also expect those beliefs to be open to revision when new evidence comes along. My views aren’t based on one bad breakup. They’re based on year…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 08:20 PM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity That’s the thing—it isn’t based on one bad relationship or one type of woman. I’ve dated women from different backgrounds, incomes, education levels, and personalities, and the same pattern kept repeating. When I was over 100 pounds heavier, I was largely invisible. After I got in shape, women with the same body type I used to have suddenly showed strong interest. One literally called me a “unicorn.” But would I still be a unicorn if she was actually fit and didn’t have a high BMI? Then I got pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 07:41 PM
1	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity That’s not really what I’m saying. My point is that people’s behavior toward me changed dramatically based on circumstances, not because my personality changed. I lost over 100 pounds and got muscular , and suddenly women who previously wouldn’t have looked twice at me were showing interest. even women who had a similar body type to the one I used to have. Then I got pancreatic cancer, was dumped during treatment, survived, and while I was delivering food to get back on my feet I went from being…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 07:14 PM
2	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity In some way meaning looks, income, how tall he is, etc. which is why I also included disabilities. I’m not shifting anything and it’s absolutely insane how much my dating attention improved or declined based on certain things in my life at the time despite being the exact same person. You just misinterpreted. Same goes for the quality of women. It’s to the point where I fake still being poor when looking for a long term partner because I want someone who likes me for me and not what I have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 06:44 PM
3	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity No, it comes down to two things. Looks and income. Most women are not after someone even remotely close to themselves in looks or someone with similar earnings. And while men with money will date and marry broke women, women with disabilities, etc, most women won’t do the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 06:31 PM
2	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity You’re living in denial. Women almost always want a man who is better than herself in some way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 06:25 PM
2	Most men would cheat if given the opportunity I think if we got rid of hypergamy, there would be much less cheating. Women need to realize that men with a ton of options cheat as do men who feel like they settled. I’ll personally never settle again. I get with a lot of women other men would be happy with but aren’t given the time of day. But I would never be happy in a relationship with them so I play the field until I find one I could actually see myself with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 06:21 PM
–	Many women here can't seem to differentiate between consent and making a pass at a woman It doesn’t mean they’re not either but weirdos on this sub seem to think you should never approach a woman under any circumstance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/26 12:09 PM
3	The Idea That "Men Should Pay For Dates Because Men Tend to Do Less Housework" Is You Admitting You Treat Men Like a Monolith I’d just send her packing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/26 05:38 PM
11	This is why we say all men. This is exactly why people push back on phrases like “all men.” You spend the entire post acknowledging that not every man endorses rape culture, then title it “This is why we say all men.” Those two ideas contradict each other. If Jesse Watters made a bad joke, criticize Jesse Watters. If people defended it, criticize those people. But it’s not logically sound to take the actions or comments of a subset of men and use them to justify generalizations about half the population. You also cite exam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/08/26 03:09 PM
4	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them I understand the connection you’re making. I just reject the conclusion. “Bad behavior affects everyone” doesn’t logically create a duty for unrelated men to police other men. That’s the leap I disagree with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 03:00 PM
4	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them You keep saying “everything is connected,” but that’s an assertion, not an argument. The topic is whether men should approach women at the gym. You’ve switched to whether men have a broader responsibility to police other men’s behavior. Even if you think those issues are related, you still have to explain why one logically leads to the other. Saying “everything is connected” doesn’t establish a duty for random men to intervene or stop approaching women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:49 PM
2	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them No. I said your etiquette book isn’t a universal authority. “Use common sense” isn’t an appeal to a specific author claiming objective rules for everyone. It means read the room, be respectful, accept “no,” and adjust to the culture you’re actually in. Ironically, that’s far more adaptable than treating one etiquette writer as the final word on human interaction. That’s like trying to dictate everyone’s diet because you read a book written by a vegan author.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:38 PM
3	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them The guide of common sense. My family managed to navigate social situations without treating one etiquette author like the final authority on human interaction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:19 PM
5	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them Then let's go back to the actual topic. The OP is about whether men should approach women at the gym. Instead of addressing that, you've shifted to whether male friends should intervene when another man behaves badly. Those are different discussions. Whether a guy's friends should say something has nothing to do with whether strangers have a duty to approach, intervene, or police other men. My point has been consistent: random men are not collectively obligated to act as security guards for ever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:16 PM
4	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them Amy Vanderbilt wrote a book on etiquette, not the book on etiquette. Emily Post wrote one too. Judith Martin (“Miss Manners”) has another. Different cultures, countries, and time periods have different etiquette norms. That’s exactly why I said etiquette isn’t a universal authority with one rulebook. Appealing to the book your family happened to use doesn’t make it an objective standard for everyone else. Some people use The Holy Bible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:01 PM
8	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them You’re moving the goalposts. First it was “men need to hold men accountable” as if all men are responsible. Now it’s “the men in this story should have done more.” Those are completely different claims. I never argued those specific friends couldn’t have acted differently. I rejected the idea that random men have some collective obligation to police every other man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 02:00 PM
6	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them According to the standards of etiquette” isn’t really an answer. Etiquette isn’t a universal authority with one rulebook. Different cultures and different people have different expectations. Plenty of couples met because someone politely introduced themselves in places that weren’t explicitly social events. I mean by the etiquette argument, I can tell you to leave your phone in the car so you’re not texting on a machine.or taking selfies while I’m waiting for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 01:25 PM
6	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them If it’s my buddy acting like an idiot, I’ll call him out. If it’s a random stranger, I’m not automatically obligated to insert myself into an unpredictable confrontation. Adults are responsible for their own behavior, and bystanders have to make judgments about their own safety too. Expecting every man to police every other man isn’t a realistic standard. I have my own family and responsibilities. People have been assaulted, stabbed, or shot trying to break up confrontations. Calling staff or se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 01:23 PM
11	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them I agree that men who harass women should be called out. But the idea that “men need to hold men accountable” gets thrown around like random guys are responsible for the behavior of every other man. Most of us aren’t friends with the guy bothering someone at the gym. Individual adults are responsible for their own actions, not every person who happens to share their sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 01:10 PM
3	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them According to who? You?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 01:05 PM
3	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them That’s a pretty Reddit-centric view of the world. Fringe ideology like Blue pill Reddit isn’t the spokesperson for society any more than r/antinatalism speaks for everyone who has kids, r/antiwork speaks for everyone with a job, r/nofap speaks for every man, or r/childfree speaks for everyone without children. These are niche online communities with their own cultures and incentives. In the real world, millions of couples have met through cold approaches, at gyms, coffee shops, grocery stores, w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 01:04 PM
6	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them That’s women who post here. But Reddit is a pretty antisocial place in the first place that brings outcasts and neurodivergent people out of the woodwork. They don’t get to dictate society though and where relationships should happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 12:59 PM
2	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them If the gym is supposed to be treated as a completely antisocial space where nobody should ever strike up a conversation, then why not just build a home gym? Most commercial gyms have always had a social element. People make friends, find workout partners, network, and yes, sometimes meet romantic partners. I know I have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 12:58 PM
12	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them That’s not really the issue. Plenty of women have publicly said they’re open to meeting someone at the gym if it’s done respectfully and they find the guy attractive. The problem is when a vocal group online acts like their preference should become the rule for everyone. Women aren’t a monolith, so “never approach at the gym” doesn’t speak for all of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 12:17 PM
11	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them So the solution is to funnel everyone onto apps that people constantly complain are toxic? Meeting someone respectfully in real life has been normal for generations. Harassment isn’t okay, but treating every real-world approach as inappropriate isn’t a great alternative either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 10:00 AM
47	The gym is meant to be a safe space not a place for men to try to hit on or date them That’s kind of the problem. Men are constantly told to “go meet people in real life” and “get off the apps,” but then every place where people naturally interact gets declared off-limits. Don’t approach at work. Don’t approach at the gym. Don’t approach while she’s shopping. Don’t approach at coffee shops because she’s busy. Don’t approach on public transit because it’s creepy. If the standard becomes “never initiate anywhere,” then where exactly are people supposed to meet organically? Especial…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/26 09:57 AM
2	Do women really see men in shorts as less attractive? I wear cargo shorts and surf trunks with my abs depending on the day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/26 12:46 AM
1	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women Yawn. Or I can just stop befriending them without being called boring in femcel OP’s like this one. And why is it always assumed we can’t get women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 09:58 PM
1	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women The his hasn’t just been a once or twice anecdote though. It’s been a consistent pattern	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 09:57 PM
2	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women I have solid friendships that don’t disappear. But I’ve noticed this pattern when befriending women. We will be BFF’s until she gets into a relationship. Then she’s gone. Until they breakup of course, then they call again out of nowhere	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 09:54 PM
1	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women But men especially are criticized for not befriending women. I’m sick of investing time into a friendship only to be ghosted eventually.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 09:52 PM
1	I find that guys that don't try to befriend women (typically the nice guys) are the most boring, no wonder you don't get women The problem with befriending girls is, the moment she finds a man, she disappears.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 09:39 PM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? I treat it as entertainment but I’ve also discovered that the vast majority of people here actually believe this mentality ill bullshit. It has ruined my faith in humanity. I also find it interesting that Misogyny is against Reddits code of conduct but Misandry is not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 04:37 PM
1	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? OP might have linked an article but the entire vibe of the post was talking about men’s spaces in general. Like my mens cancer organization is teaching us how to SA women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 03:17 PM
0	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? The post is about men only spaces. I belong to many that are nothing like you describe. Going to the mountains in September even. This sub is just cringy hate filled rhetoric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 01:49 PM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? How is that any different than femcel spaces? These spaces represent only a small, fringe minority. Saying this is a representation of men is nothing short of sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 12:44 PM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? Well then, to be a top 1% commentator, your opinions have to consistently resonate with this community. That’s exactly how echo chambers work. PPD has become less about understanding relationships and more about manufacturing engagement through gender wars. Every discussion gets reduced to “men vs. women,” with endless hypotheticals, edge cases, and rage bait because that’s what gets upvotes. The more polarizing the take, the more visibility it gets. That’s social media, not reality. Most people…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 11:20 AM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? I’m not a top 1% commentator though. I come to Reddit to discuss things I do in the real world. But Reddit loves to send me to the most fringe, neurodivergent spaces on the platform because it draws engagement. Engagement = profit. I’m really trying to understand the PPD mentality because it’s certainly not normal or healthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 10:13 AM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? Or you can stay on topic	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 09:51 AM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? Spreading hate speech isn’t up for debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 01:00 AM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? What is there to respond to? This is a habitually Reddit take. I mean it’s cool for you to make up lies and stereotype men though	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 12:51 AM
–	Why do women try to pathologize men/boys only spaces, when there are all kinds of female only spaces? This is completely insane. Reddits gonna Reddit though. Fortunately the real world isnt like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 12:44 AM
2	Women are Not Entitled to Men's Credulity towards their "Lived Experiences" and Self-Reports Regarding Dating, Men, etc. Underground utilities	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 10:54 PM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky You’re asking me to respond to what you’re actually saying, so let’s do that. If you’re proposing a lump-sum payment for pregnancy, who pays it? The father? The government? Insurance? And how is the amount determined? A healthy pregnancy isn’t the same as a high-risk pregnancy, and a pregnancy ending in miscarriage isn’t the same as carrying to term. If you’re advocating a policy, the details matter. You say even married women deserve compensation. But in a marriage, the couple’s finances are of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 02:10 PM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky You’re conflating three different issues: pregnancy, child support, and compensation between adults. Pregnancy absolutely involves sacrifices and health risks. No one is denying that. But that doesn’t automatically create a permanent financial debt that one parent owes the other. We already have mechanisms for the costs of raising children: child support, custody arrangements, paid parental leave where available, and medical coverage. You also keep treating “women fear career stagnation” as proo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 01:17 PM
2	Women are Not Entitled to Men's Credulity towards their "Lived Experiences" and Self-Reports Regarding Dating, Men, etc. I didn’t invent that implication. The harassment point was raised in response to a discussion about why people choose careers. If someone brings up harassment in the trades as a rebuttal to recommending the trades, it’s fair to ask whether they have evidence it’s a significant reason women avoid those careers. Otherwise it’s just introducing a fact that doesn’t actually address the argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 12:02 PM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky You’re proving my point. First it was biology, now it’s money. Pregnancy isn’t a service you invoice your partner for. In a healthy relationship both people contribute in different ways over decades. If your standard is that men owe women additional compensation simply for being female and capable of pregnancy, then you’ve replaced partnership with permanent financial debt. And “women come out on top monetarily” isn’t universally true either. In many relationships men still earn more, pay a disp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 11:59 AM
-3	Women are Not Entitled to Men's Credulity towards their "Lived Experiences" and Self-Reports Regarding Dating, Men, etc. Do you have evidence that harassment is the primary reason women avoid the trades? Interest, working conditions, physical demands, schedules, and personal preferences all influence career choice. It’s a big leap to suggest that skilled tradesmen as a group are harassing women into staying away from those careers. Every industry has bad actors, but people act like the skilled trades are uniquely hostile to women when there are millions of men working in construction, utilities, manufacturing, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 03:43 AM
2	Women are Not Entitled to Men's Credulity towards their "Lived Experiences" and Self-Reports Regarding Dating, Men, etc. Job market is only shit if you went to college to get the exact same degrees millions of other people have. I’m a proud community college dropout making $100k. Keep going to college though. It puts me even more in demand thanks to vast labor shortages in skilled trades.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 03:30 AM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky Nobody is denying that pregnancy and childbirth are major sacrifices. The disagreement is with the conclusion you’re drawing from that fact. You’re treating biology as though it creates a permanent imbalance that men can never repay. If that’s your standard, then no amount of paternal leave, financial support, childcare, housework, career sacrifices, or emotional support will ever be enough, because men can never experience pregnancy themselves. That’s not equality, it’s an unpayable debt. Healt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 02:55 AM
2	Women don’t actually need men anymore. So what incentive is left for commitment? Cancer taught me that if you don’t need each other, there’s really no point. The wanting and not needing thing really seems rooted more in convenience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 02:33 AM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky I don’t think many people would disagree with that. If either spouse has a permanent disability whether from childbirth, a workplace injury, cancer, or anything else, the other partner should pick up more where they’re able. That’s just what marriage is. The disagreement is when pregnancy or childbirth is treated as a permanent debt that obligates the husband indefinitely, even after she’s fully recovered. Those are two very different arguments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 09:50 PM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky You’re taking a legitimate point that pregnancy is physically demanding and turning it into an assumption about all men. Plenty of fathers take paternity leave, wake up for night feedings, handle diapers, work extra hours to support the family, and care for their partners during recovery. Saying “men don’t care” is no more accurate than saying “women don’t care when men sacrifice.” The goal shouldn’t be to prove one sex has it harder forever. It should be building a relationship where both peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 08:42 PM
1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky Pregnancy and childbirth absolutely aren’t 50/50 biologically, and any decent partner should shoulder more of the burden during pregnancy and recovery. But that doesn’t mean the relationship itself should be permanently unequal afterward. Fairness isn’t measured by trying to “repay” pregnancy forever. It’s measured by both partners adapting to each other’s circumstances over time. If he’s working 70 hours a week, maybe she does more at home. If she’s recovering from childbirth or breastfeeding, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 08:41 PM
1	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. Except it’s moved from equality to superiority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 06:25 PM
1	Even men think men are the problem They could, but that’s not something you can replace overnight and they would go years to decades without many of the things we currently take for granted. Skilled trades aren’t jobs you just walk into. It takes years of apprenticeships, certifications, and on-the-job experience to become a competent lineman, power plant operator, water treatment technician, heavy equipment mechanic, welder, or industrial electrician. If millions of experienced workers disappeared at once, there wouldn’t be mill…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 02:51 AM
11	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky They aren’t babies & toddlers for 30 years. There’s also a big difference between helping out and the entire burden becomes placed on you the whole evening while you worked all day and she claims she’s off duty. As my son got older and more self sufficient, her expectations didn’t change. Eventually I just left.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 06:47 PM
10	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky Oh please. She would break all day. He was in fucking school all day. But Reddit femcels like to pretend women raise babies & toddlers their whole lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 06:38 PM
-1	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky Blame those men. The way some women treated me when I lost my main income for a while due to cancer, I can’t say I have any pity. I was even dumped over it because my battle took away from a “lifestyle” she wanted. When you have superficial standards of money and possessions, that’s the type of men you’re going to end up with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 03:23 PM
17	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky The problem with that is, women usually want 50/50 with home responsibilities while he’s still working his ass off to bring home the bread. My ex used to pile on big “to do” lists even after I worked 12+ hours while saying she’s “off duty” now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 02:58 PM
0	Believing a 50/50 man will step up later isn’t just naive - it’s risky I guess that’s what happens when you’re attracted to men with “fun money”. A lot of you choose men with possessions over men who are actually genuine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 02:54 PM
2	Could having standards that are too high be helped with therapy? What would really help is leaving social media	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 10:36 PM
1	Genuine question for feminists That’s funny considering every American president has dropped bombs on brown kids since before I was alive. And I’m pretty old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 07:16 PM
–	Even men think men are the problem Did you take your medication this morning? That has to be one of the most mentality ill takes I’ve ever heard. Like lower on the food chain than a neckbeard in mom’s basement. Reddit people are a very special breed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 05:23 PM
–	Even men think men are the problem You’re not very bright apparently. I’m talking about essential services crashing because women as a whole don’t know anything about building and maintaining infrastructure nor do you have the strength to do most of these jobs	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 05:18 PM
2	Even men think men are the problem I don’t know who makes this claim. The first thing that will happen is all their infrastructure will literally crash. No food, no water, no electricity, no communications. Back to the Stone Age you go. I hope you can learn how to hunt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 05:00 PM
7	Women Aren't Playing the Victim. Red Pill Men Don't Understand Consent. This feels like a straw man. Consent should absolutely be voluntary and free from coercion. That isn’t controversial. But acting like “Red Pill” as a whole teaches rape or ignores consent is a huge leap. Most of what I’ve seen revolves around self-improvement, fitness, confidence, and dating strategy. Criticize the people who actually promote coercive behavior instead of assigning those beliefs to an entire movement. Thats just victimhood culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 01:34 PM
1	SAHMs should Unionize You’re making a huge leap from “mothers have primary custody more often” to “men don’t care about their children.” Those are not the same claim. Custody outcomes are influenced by pre-separation caregiving roles, work schedules, financial realities, negotiated agreements, and whether either parent even contests custody. You’d need evidence that fathers wanted primary custody, sought it, and were denied because they were men before you can make that argument. Saying “27% of men abandon their chil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 01:48 AM
2	SAHMs should Unionize You’re mixing unrelated statistics and treating them as if they prove the same thing. The ‘91% of custody arrangements’ figure refers to cases where parents reached an agreement without the court deciding custody. It doesn’t show fathers ‘gave up’ custody. It often reflects mutual agreements, work schedules, finances, or the child’s existing routine. Likewise, claiming ‘27% of men abandon their children’ is a different issue entirely and doesn’t establish that fathers never seek custody and 27% …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 12:13 AM
1	SAHMs should Unionize If your proposal only works by pretending family law doesn’t exist, maybe it’s not a very good proposal. You’re describing a spouse walking out on the family, then acting surprised when custody and child support become part of the conversation which is why you ignored it completely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 11:58 PM
6	SAHMs should Unionize Interesting strategy. ‘Unionize’ by walking out on your spouse and kids until you get paid. Don’t be shocked when Dad files for primary custody and child support based on abandonment. Marriage isn’t an employer-employee contract.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 11:30 PM
–	How do you define a female friend? Just because you might not be able to find strong friendships, most of us have very strong bonds. Even when I was diagnosed with cancer, the people who were there the most for me were other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 04:43 PM
–	How do you define a female friend? That’s not true. I even know women who prefer to be friends with men to avoid the gossip, judgement and back stabbing. “meN dONt HAvE rEAL FRiEnDshiPS” is a chronically online Reddit take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 02:01 PM
–	Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifying If you’re not practicing it while with the person, I think it’s pointless to reveal it if that’s what is holding you back.Not everyone has to know everything. I’m bi-curious for instance but nobody will ever know that outside of anonymous social media. Just like no woman will ever know my bodycount unless she has one similar	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 11:26 AM
–	Immediate disqualifying factors are viewed as something negative by the person disqualifying That’s why people need to keep it to themselves. The biggest problem with Gen Z is they can’t seem to STFU. As long as you plan on being monogamous, nobody needs to know about something like your bisexuality. Quit telling people shit that’s going to get you disqualified	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 11:07 AM
13	Alot of guys dont have friends and that really hurts their dating life. Nice goalpost shift. We went from “men’s friendships are shallow” to “if someone has poor social skills, that’s a deficiency.” Those are completely different claims. Plenty of men have healthy friendships, careers, families, hobbies, and social lives while still disliking modern dating or struggling to meet compatible partners. PPD is also a self-selected group of people discussing dating online. It isn’t a representative sample of men. You’re treating the people who post here as if they represe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 02:10 PM
16	Alot of guys dont have friends and that really hurts their dating life. So we’ve gone from pretending this was a discussion about psychology to admitting it’s just ridicule. Thanks for clearing that up. “We’re laughing at you” isn’t evidence that male friendships are shallow, it’s evidence you started with contempt and worked backward to justify it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 01:16 PM
18	Alot of guys dont have friends and that really hurts their dating life. This is armchair psychoanalysis disguised as social science. You’re inventing an internal thought process for millions of men and presenting it as fact. Men often socialize differently than women, but “different” isn’t the same as “deficient.” You’d never accept someone making this many sweeping psychological assumptions about women based on one average difference, so why is it acceptable here? Imagine someone wrote: “A lot of women have larger social circles, which is why they struggle with acc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 12:07 PM
4	Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen. Plenty of women still want to be approached in public. But the loud feminists want to be their voice as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 01:32 PM
2	Red pill should go to therapy to learn how to listen. Most women don’t buy into this Woke femcel feminism that’s responsible for Red Pill in the first place. Most people just need to leave social media rather than go to therapy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/26 01:17 PM
3	Women, what kind of lies are not acceptable from men, and which lies do you expect men to be okay with? Some women will consider that lying as I present a persona of someone I’m not. I just don’t want money to have anything to do with a reason a woman got into a relationship with me. That tends to make things a little tough as I’m judged as being broke, but I know the kind of woman I want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 07:04 PM
0	Women, what kind of lies are not acceptable from men, and which lies do you expect men to be okay with? I don’t announce anything. But I purposely drive a 2015 Ford Edge with 140k miles on it and live in an $1100 apartment. I don’t buy flashy things, I dress in jeans & a tee shirt, don’t eat at expensive restaurants. I just let my checks stack into my bank account and present myself like I don’t make very much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 06:53 PM
-4	Women, what kind of lies are not acceptable from men, and which lies do you expect men to be okay with? I’m not rich but I do make close to $100k. Spending 16 months broke while fighting cancer taught me a lot about people. I was dumped when my journey started, and the moment I was financially stable again, female attention suddenly picked back up. Maybe it’s coincidence, maybe it isn’t, but after living through that I need to know someone would still want me if I lost everything tomorrow. That’s why I’d rather someone think I’m broke than think I’m a provider.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 05:27 PM
0	Women, what kind of lies are not acceptable from men, and which lies do you expect men to be okay with? If I lie, it’s to convince myself that’s not why you’re there. I like to pretend to be broke.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/26 05:07 PM
0	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single You’ve done this crap before where you cherry pick my comments, post sentences out of context and piece things together to push your narrative. I’ll ask you one last time to stop before you’re reported. I was told to do so, next time it happens. You’ve been doing this crap for a year now	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 07:30 PM
0	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single You’re changing the argument. I never said every single man is single because of physical attraction. I’m saying physical attraction is a major gatekeeper in dating. If someone doesn’t meet your baseline level of attraction, their ambition, personality, career, and values often never get a chance to matter because there isn’t a first date in the first place. That’s true for both men and women. Research on online dating consistently finds that physical attractiveness is one of the strongest predi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 07:25 PM
1	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single No I don’t and you continue to stalk my every comment, accusing me of it. Give it up already. I was told next time to report you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 07:23 PM
0	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single That’s not what I said. I didn’t say all single women are single because they don’t find men attractive. I’m saying physical attraction is one of the biggest filters that determines who even gets considered. You don’t get to personality, ambition, or lifestyle if there isn’t initial attraction. You’re also taking one self-reported explanation and treating it as universal. Women saying they’re focused on work or school doesn’t mean attraction isn’t a factor. People can have multiple reasons for b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 05:51 PM
0	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single I didn’t say standards can’t include how you’re treated. I said this thread is about the standards that determine who gets a chance in the first place. Attraction is the first filter. After that, treatment and compatibility decide whether the relationship lasts. Those are two different. Then you have things like the halo effect where a man can treat you like shit if he’s attractive enough. It’s perceived as confidence and masculinity. Meanwhile, an average or ugly man who treats you the same, is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 05:38 PM
-2	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single Nobody decides what’s “legitimate but online culture is unnatural and driven by tech companies for profit” Everyone is entitled to their own standards. My point is that online culture often amplifies expectations that aren’t grounded in reality, similar to how porn can distort expectations about sex and bodies. If I spend years staying lean, exercising, and eating well, it’s perfectly reasonable for me to want someone who values the same lifestyle instead of an inbox full of obese women who are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 05:31 PM
0	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single Why did you just move the goal post? This is about standards. Not being treated badly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 05:25 PM
-4	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single Of they could quit letting algorithms and content creators brainwash them. Imagine preferring to stay single because big tech made you that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 04:56 PM
3	Women who struggle to find a long-term partner aren't "too good" for the men who are also single It doesn’t really get them anywhere though. The only people winning are the tech companies that cause this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/26 04:50 PM
-2	Women, when you ask a man to take out the trash, what is the time limit for the man to do that? Right. I refuse to be with someone who barks orders. Been there, done that. Why can’t she do it herself if she sees it needs to go out?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 12:43 PM
1	AI is now banned and also join our discord come argue with incels, misogynists and misandrists I’ve blocked for someone stalking me in other subs. I still got banned here over it	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 01:03 AM
2	AI is now banned and also join our discord come argue with incels, misogynists and misandrists The whole banned for blocking someone is just dumb. I blocked someone once due to harassing me in other groups and got banned for it here until I unblocked her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/26 01:01 AM
45	Women are emotionally more resilient and self-reliant as single women do not whine, cry, complain, and moan about being lonely nearly as much as single men do. Instead of doomscrolling, visit the real world. Practically every woman I date complains about men from their past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 02:16 AM
9	Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standards Except those weren’t the reasons these women complained as they tried getting me to play therapist. 100 women vs accountability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 01:13 AM
8	Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standards Traits less likely to be screwed over? Explain these traits. Because 100% of the women I’ve dated in the dating app era complains about their ex husband/husbands or all the men who have fucked them over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 12:08 AM
1	Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill. That’s a much weaker claim than the one in your title. Nobody is arguing politics has zero effect on dating. Of course it does. Religion, education, geography, income, personality, and lifestyle all influence dating too. The disagreement is with your implication that women generally reject Red Pill or conservative men because of politics. That’s a very different claim than “politics matters.” Also, your data shows younger people value political compatibility more than previous generations. It do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 08:35 PM
1	Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill. Nobody disputes that younger women, on average, lean more liberal than younger men. That’s been true in multiple surveys. But averages don’t support the conclusion that conservative men are broadly rejected in dating. Millions of young conservative women exist, and millions of politically mixed couples exist. If politics were the overriding factor you’re claiming, those relationships wouldn’t be nearly as common. You’re also shifting the goalposts. I said conservative women exist. Your response …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 07:51 PM
1	Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill. You really think there are no young conservative women? Get out of the Reddit echo chambers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 07:10 PM
1	Politics matter in dating, why the red pill is political,and why women generally reject the red pill. Except you’re assuming there aren’t literally millions of conservative women out there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 04:56 PM
–	"What about women" is deflection from personal responsibility. No, I was talking about how I feel and am treated over cancer survivorship. Not your dumb ass posts. Mods delete everything that doesn’t align with specific Reddit worldviews	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 02:56 PM
–	"What about women" is deflection from personal responsibility. She doesn’t post frustration. She posts superiority hot takes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 02:36 PM
–	"What about women" is deflection from personal responsibility. You’re turning two populations of hundreds of millions of people into caricatures. There are men who took criticism and improved, and women who didn’t. There are women who took criticism and improved, and men who didn’t. The claim that “women leveled up, men just complained” is a slogan, not evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 01:14 PM
–	"What about women" is deflection from personal responsibility. No I didn’t. You obviously weren’t reading what I said. Nice deflection though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 01:05 PM
–	"What about women" is deflection from personal responsibility. That’s an assertion, not an argument. I’ve seen plenty of women play victim too. People generally don’t like being stereotyped based on their sex. The question isn’t who complains more. It’s whether we’re applying the same standard to everyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 12:38 PM
–	"What about women" is deflection from personal responsibility. You spend your entire post criticizing men while arguing that mentioning women is illegitimate. Why is criticizing men considered accountability, but criticizing women is automatically “deflection”? Either both sexes can be criticized under the same standard, or you’re applying different rules depending on who’s being discussed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 12:34 PM
0	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Look down? No. It’s just interesting to me how women are allowed to look down on men though. It’s also interesting to be judged by someone who knows nothing about my life. I’ve survived stage III pancreatic cancer, one of the deadliest cancers there is. I went through a Whipple procedure, chemotherapy, months of recovery, and fought my way back into the gym instead of giving up. I became a chapter leader for a major cancer organization after my friend Andrew passed away, so I could help others f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 03:04 PM
0	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship You are insane considering those were the ones least likely to reject me. I already had close to 100 sex partners before losing weight. But stop coddling fat people. It’s not some civil right. It’s laziness and addiction. What’s next? Coddle smokers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 02:58 PM
0	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship I am a better person. I’m only calling out the hypocrisy. I’m a POS because I won’t date them? Obviously only women are allowed to have dealbreakers. I don’t hate myself. I love myself. And everyone around me calls me an inspiration	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 02:28 AM
0	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship How does this even make sense. Wouldn’t I be getting back at lean women considering when I was given the time of day, it was by a bigger woman? Maybe not only is fat unattractive, but we would have nothing in common.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 02:25 AM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Still less fat than even the ones who were rejecting me. But now they want me even with literally nothing in common anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 01:50 AM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Brutalize? Fat is vastly unnatural and unhealthy. It’s also horrible for the environment. You’re only doing yourself and society a favor by getting into shape. So yes. It’s unattractive for many reasons not just including aesthetics	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 01:44 AM
1	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Or was she being picky? I’ve seen a few fat girls dating accounts. Still flooded with “Hey Beautiful” messages	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 01:31 AM
-1	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Most women weren’t doing that stuff nor were they heroin starved. They looked like normal in shape women. If this is why women were sexy looking on America, explain Italian, other parts of Europe and Japan where obesity is virtually non existent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 01:30 AM
1	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Not every one but a lot of them do. Sort of like I own experience. When I was the average overweight Joe, I was practically invisible. I’t would take months to find someone to date me and I couldn’t be picky. After getting physically fit, I get 30+ dating app likes a day and the ones I go on dates with don’t leave me alone even after I find no spark	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 01:26 AM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship I don’t. The issue is, the average woman is 2026 is lowering the supply vs let’s say 2006 when it comes to attractiveness. It’s a thinned dating pool of attractive women. Women calling themselves thick/curvy were just called obese a couple decades ago. And there were a whole lot less of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 01:13 AM
0	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Lowly I think of women? If I thought lowly of her, she wouldn’t be coming over. The truth seems to hurt here. The entire point is most women are not hot enough for their insane standards. You can’t be a 4, expecting an 8 while thinking any man less than that is inferior. It makes no sense to me how standards are literally raising along side the obesity epidemic. I’m just calling out the hypocrisy. I mean I’m good enough for her because I go to the gym and make good money but a man who is a simil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 01:03 AM
4	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Not at all. I have one coming over in a little while. How exactly does shitposting in a group with fringe beliefs that stem from mental illness, make me desperate? So by this logic, when I troll the [r/antiwork](r/antiwork) Fortnite neckbeards, it means I don’t have a job?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 12:26 AM
4	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship How am I desperate? I reject the majority who give me attention. Nice assumption though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/26 12:23 AM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship They’re tainting the dating pool. Even the hot girls I encounter I went to school with are now fat. When you’re in shape in 2026, you notice just how obese the world around you actually is as you constantly have to reject people. 20 years ago, we had a lot more attractive women to choose from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 11:46 PM
1	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Except most of these men would date these gross women who are denying them because social media has them convinced they’re dimes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 11:44 PM
1	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Terrible person because some Reddit mouth breather says so?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 10:12 PM
3	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Terrible person because some Reddit mouth breather says so?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 10:12 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Bad for what? Me pointing out that women have become blight? <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 10:10 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Or you spend too much time habitually online. I’m just calling out the irony of women not holding themselves to their same standards. How can you have standards with a body-fat percentage of 40? <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 10:07 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship I’m just passing time. Just got off work and have a date in a few hours. Nobody is bitching. Just engaging in debate. Is this real life to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 09:53 PM
-1	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Again. Social media brain rot	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 09:31 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Some men are, but not nearly to the extent of women now. It’s gotten so bad that when I was diagnosed with cancer at a near terminal stage, my biggest fear was actually losing my body I worked so hard on and becoming invisible again. It’s why I was still in the gym, lifting weights with a body pumped full of four different chemo drugs when I should have been resting. Meanwhile, 20 years ago, I didn’t need a gym body to be desired.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 09:26 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship But I guarantee what you find ugly today you wouldn’t have found ugly head. You’ve been dating 20 years ago. The algorithms have completely dictated what women find attractive now. It’s mostly brain rot and completely unnatural. And now with ever advancing AI, pretty soon the ideal man won’t even be human.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:51 PM
-3	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Single ones are rare at my age. Sadly millennials really let themselves go and aged like shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:48 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship They only think they’re settling because social media required their brains. No different than some men and porn addiction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:11 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Dow is it laughable? I’m attractive, physically fit, and make good money. Thicc and Curvy are just ways to sugarcoat obesity. 20 years ago, they would have just been fat. Treat your body like a temple. Not a trap house.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:10 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. I never married her but I did my role as a father. But I really don’t owe her anything. Obviously if I didn’t play my role as a dad, my son wouldn’t prefer me over his mom. Way to twist my words though. I’ve also raised children while going through much worse things than childbirth. That’s pretty simple in comparison.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:03 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship The problem is, that’s like 80% of women. Body positivity has fucked up the dating pool. Women used to thrive to stay fit. Now they think they’re curvy or Thicc	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:02 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship I’ve never had to beg for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:00 PM
-6	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship They changed practically the same. Yet these women think they have a chance with someone like me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:00 PM
-2	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship The only dating struggle I’ve ever had is sifting through the obesity as a man who is in the gym, 6 days a week.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 07:59 PM
-3	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship What anger? This feels like another deflection. Social media has inflated expectations for a lot of people, just as porn can distort expectations for some men. Algorithms constantly push the most attractive, edited, and successful people to the top, which can skew perceptions of what’s average. These women only find these men unattractive because of constant social media exposure. As a man who actually is fit and attractive, it’s absolutely insane how a lot of these women even think they have a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 07:57 PM
–	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship Except most of them aren’t very attractive in the first place. It’s hard to have these super standards while contributing to the obesity epidemic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 07:15 PM
-12	Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationship If only they met their own standards. A majority of women already look gross enough. They already don’t have much to work with. If only women still looked as good as they did a couple decades ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 07:14 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Except there’s nothing I said that makes me bitter. Many women I know even agree with me and don’t participate in Reddit victimhood culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 02:47 PM
0	Why are western women so hateful toward men? Going on social media might be your problem. These people don’t actually participate in society. But are far more likely to answer surveys than normal women who are out there living their lives. It’s the same with men. Most men aren’t participating in manosphere neckbeard bullshit. Sadly on the internet, the mouthbreathers have a very loud voice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:32 PM
-1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. A lot of things are physically taxing. Nobody owes you anything. I’ve been through things more physically taxing than childbirth ever could be. Yet I still work full time, lift weights 6 days a week and stay athletic and physically active.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 09:34 AM
1	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? I’m making perfect sense. Attractiveness has always been king. Do you honestly think if Pavel Durov and Mark Davis were standing next to each other, Mark Davis would be her first choice!	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 01:06 AM
0	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? If they could land a hot guy, they would have one. It’s their form of settling. Let’s not pretend a rich guy smut novel was ever written about a man with a body like Donald Trump.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 01:01 AM
0	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? Actually they do. If women didn’t care about hotness, my dating life wouldn’t have become so successful after taking the steps to make myself hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:57 AM
-1	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? Oh I can be humiliating. Their so called values don’t dictate their self esteem or knowing they couldn’t land a hot guy with money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:48 AM
0	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? I have though. That’s what you don’t understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:44 AM
0	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? I’m not talking about you specifically though. I’m talking about women in general. I just find it gross how so many will let a fat, sweaty man get on top of them just because he has money. Even kissing on his neck full of skin tags. It’s like prostitution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:39 AM
-1	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? The majority seem to be though. Higher earning men still have an average BMI of 27–29.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:35 AM
-1	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? When I work in the upper class neighborhoods, the husbands generally look like this. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:32 AM
0	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? Except I probably make more than you and your friends. I still choose to rent. I’m certainly not trying to move in with a woman in a house that’s 100% hers. I’d only agree if either I’m buying a house if we are splitting equity. Not all of us are desperate enough to care about your house. That’s like renting but with rules.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:29 AM
-4	Why are men with money seen as very attractive for women? Everybody brings up kids. Yet not everyone even has kids and they’re still this way when they’re going through menopause and are done having kids. It’s also crazy to me how women will spread their legs for men who look repulsive just because he has money. Even going as far as multiplying his fucked up genetics, bringing even more ugly people into this world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:26 AM
2	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:18 AM
-1	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. That’s her choice. And it’s funny how my son prefers to stay with me instead of his mom. All that sickness and pain yet she’s still a drunken loser. Childbirth is natural. It’s not some handicap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 12:16 AM
-2	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. You treat pregnancy like it’s special needs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 11:30 PM
0	Men who want women to do more housework and childcare should be pro-alimony, pro-child support, and support access to divorce. Yea, fuck that. She can get a job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 05:49 PM
3	Men’s rigid conformity to idealised masculinity is harmful to themselves I’m fit too but not very assertive. This comes from being bullied when I was young and eventually becoming morbidly obese. I don’t really approach women. But I know how to dress, show off my body and put myself into scenarios where women take notice. Kayaking, paddleboarding at the beach, etc. Tonight I’m going to a card tournament that’s going to be 80% women. So I’m not assertive but I put myself out there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 12:13 PM
0	If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choice It isn’t misogynistic to recognize that the club scene generally isn’t what I’m looking for. Clubs are designed around loud music, drinking, hookups, and partying. If someone enjoys that environment, that’s their choice. It just isn’t compatible with the life I’ve built. After surviving stage III pancreatic cancer, I became very intentional about my health. I spend my free time lifting, paddle boarding, kayaking, hiking, fishing, and constantly experiencing new things. I don’t want my weekends c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 07:49 PM
-1	If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choice Except I don’t like those kinds of women. Clubs are full of immaturity and alcoholism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 06:26 PM
2	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. I did go to college. My career became obsolete and I bailed before I wasted anymore money. The difference between myself and a lot of college grads is, I heavily researched my career path. A lot of people who go to college don’t do this. Then they wonder why they’re competing with 200 other applicants for a single job, all with the exact same credentials, paying half what I currently make. I remember one class in particular I took in community college called Life Career Development (LCD100). A c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 09:17 PM
1	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. That’s exactly my point. You’re treating a bachelor’s degree as if it’s synonymous with being educated, intellectually curious, or having meaningful experiences. It isn’t. Every new subject I get into, I study it almost like a science. When I lost over 100 pounds, I didn’t just diet, I learned about energy balance, nutrition, exercise physiology, recovery, and long-term weight management. After my stage 3 pancreatic cancer diagnosis and Whipple surgery, I immersed myself in learning about my dis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 08:52 PM
0	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. You’re still avoiding the real main point. Working class does not in any way mean broke. Which is why I assumed you were just a bot. Now if I make $100k as a utility worker and a woman I recently dated with two masters makes $35k, who is in the higher socioeconomic class? It’s only assumed men like me make less, based on nothing more than stereotypes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 08:38 PM
2	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. Define educated though. I went to college. I’m not doing anything I went to school for. And nothing in my studies defines me as a person. If you think you need a bachelors degree to have engaging conversations, you bought into the marketing. You don’t need to listen to stuffy professors to be intelligent. I’m more worried about how much debt she brings to the table while most likely making less than me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 05:51 PM
-1	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. I just made an observation. I said vibes. I didn’t say for sure. I also did engage. You just chose to ignore it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:02 AM
1	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. I said it’s giving off chatGPT vibes. From the language used to the format. I brought this up because I use ChatGPT for a lot of things. But way to avoid all my points while going off on some intellectual superiority rant that’s completely meaningless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 10:39 AM
-3	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. You’re only assuming working class men don’t have money though. I wear dirty work boots and a high vis vest. Yet many of us make more than a college grad in khakis. But due to our appearance, you stereotype us as not earning enough to be providers. Your response also gives off serious ChatGPT vibes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 07:04 AM
1	Men shouldn’t have to be hypermasculine providers in order to get into relationships. I’m not so sure I would call most corporate, law, engineering jobs to be very masculine. I could probably kick most of these guys asses. These women might marry into money, but judging by the men I see in the upper class neighborhoods, most look like pussies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 07:00 AM
7	Men aren't lonely and single because they're toxic, violent and sexist; they're lonely and single because they're unattractive, broke and awkward I’d argue a lot of women are just as unattractive, broke and awkward. But TikTok has them convinced they’re 10’s. I just cut another one loose who thought I was going to be an ATM. While she did have her looks and body going for her, what exactly do these other women possess considering the average female bodyfat percentage is around 40?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/26 10:34 PM
5	Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger women Money? lol. I was unemployed because of cancer for 16 months. I live in an apartment and drive a 2015 Edge. Money? I don’t think so as I didn’t go back to work until June 1st. But I am attractive and have a better looking body than most men even half my age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 10:38 PM
7	Older men don't understand how undesirable they are to younger women When they not only hit on me but sleep with me, want a relationship with me, etc while saying guys their own age are too immature, is that still just basic customer service? What am i mistaking?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 10:23 PM
2	If men understood having a victim complex is "feminine", very few of them would have it. You’re conflating vulnerability with a victim complex. Those aren’t the same thing. A man can acknowledge that life has been unfair, talk about his struggles, or point out societal issues without believing he’s powerless or refusing responsibility. A victim mentality is a mindset, not simply expressing hardship. The confusing part is that men are often told they need to open up more, but when they do, they’re frequently accused of “playing the victim” if what they’re saying isn’t well received. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/26 11:41 AM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. What does that comment have to do with anything I said? Again. Stop living your entire life in this sub. I come here because you people are very entertaining. It helps to pass the time at work. But it’s weird to me how so many of you latch onto dating and gender theories that don’t exactly exist in the real world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 06:00 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. I’m physically fit, attractive, make good money, romantic and empathetic, etc. If I wasn’t attractive, I wouldn’t wake up to this practically every morning on Facebook dating. My Bumble likes are very similar. https://preview.redd.it/4k3i70wb2v9h1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ee795d37a095bc94af4d0503c5a4dfd7c08dc07	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 05:33 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. WTF are you even talking about? This is so unhealthy mentally. You need some hobbies outside of Purple Pill Debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 04:25 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. Virtue signal? No. I only want the female version of myself. It doesn’t seem like pilled women on Reddit like it when a man actually has options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 01:34 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. You realize I would take a fun, sweet, caring 6.5 or 7 over a shallow 10. Right? So in other words, you don’t understand as much as you think. You’re letting a fringe Reddit sub alter your understanding of the real world. If you come here for anything other than entertainment, this sub is no good for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 07:05 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. Then when do I actually spend time with my partner? I already work long hours. My free time is limited, and the things I enjoy most are lifting, hiking, paddleboarding, kayaking, and other outdoor activities. I’m not looking for someone just to have a girlfriend. I’m looking for my best friend, the person I want to spend most of my free time with. If all of the activities I enjoy are reserved for my friends while my partner stays home or does something else, that’s not the kind of relationship I…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 05:36 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. Well when you do mostly very physically fit activities, it’s very important. Last one I dated fucked up a hiking trip through the sand dunes on Lake Michigan. Despite walking all the time and being in the gym, she couldn’t handle it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 02:03 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. Funny how I have never dated an overweight woman who can keep up. There are things your body just can’t do with excess body-fat. Research how many lbs of pressure is added to your knee joints just by walking if you’re fat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 01:54 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. They’re much more sedentary than I am. I’ve never dated one who could keep up. And going to the gym doesn’t mean you’re actually active there. Most fat people I see there spend 10 minutes texting between every set.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 01:39 PM
–	Female entitlement Sex is very magical. And I say this as a man with a bodycount over 100.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 12:08 PM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. No they wouldn’t but then again, neither would an unemphatic person. Are you neurodivergent? I really have to ask considering you’re hyper obsessed with literally one thing in this discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 11:57 AM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. I have not and I’m not going to continue to argue with the autistic	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 11:47 AM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. You are completely insane.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 11:45 AM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. This is exactly what you always do. You selectively quote one sentence, ignore everything else I’ve written, and then argue against the version of my position that you invented. I’ve repeatedly said attraction is one requirement, not the only requirement. I’ve also said I’d reject attractive women over incompatible lifestyles, values, personalities, poor health habits, or simply being a bad person. Yet every time you reduce that to “looks are all that matter.” If you have to keep stripping away …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 08:47 AM
1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. If you have the looks, why should you settle for someone less attractive? You’ve also ignored everything else I said and seem to think it’s 100% about looks and nothing else typical of people who spend 2/3rd of their life on Reddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 04:41 AM
-1	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. Most men are. But these women don’t want those men. Some of us don’t have to be. I would still be lenient if I didn’t work my ass off so hard to develop the body I now have. Why would I ever settle long term for fat and sedentary? We wouldn’t even have anything in common as she’s not going to the gym with me, not hiking strenuous trails and certainly not eating at my kind of restaurants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 02:16 AM
2	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. You’re proving my point by assuming that not wanting therapy automatically means someone is unstable or refusing to help themselves. Those are completely different claims. If someone isn’t harming anyone, why is it anyone else’s business how they choose to deal with life’s problems? Not every difficult period is a mental illness that requires therapy. Ironically, I’ve had plenty of women tell me to “go to therapy” when I never actually needed it. In my case, therapy wouldn’t have solved the prob…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 02:06 AM
3	I think that women highly value confidence and this puts men at a significant dating disadvantage. Much of what women see as confidence is actually narcissism or emotional detachment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 11:53 PM
6	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Most men suffering in silence aren’t threats to anyone. They’re just dealing with life without advertising it. Reddit has turned therapy into a near-religious belief where it’s treated as the answer to almost every problem. It reminds me of how people once told everyone to “go talk to the priest.” As fewer people identify with organized religion, some have replaced that role with therapy. That doesn’t mean therapy is useless, it helps many people, but it’s become the default answer even when the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 09:27 PM
5	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Court ordered? Sounds quite a bit authoritarian. Needing therapy is only your opinion. I’d actually argue that therapy doesn’t treat everything. It would have never helped my depression. If anything, it would have only made it worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 08:02 PM
4	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. No, I don’t prioritize looks over all else, but looks do have to be there. Why exactly would I date an ugly person when I don’t have to? And if she’s obese, we wouldn’t have anything in common anyway. It sounds like you just don’t like the fact that some of us have options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 05:29 PM
6	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. No I don’t. That’s just your imaginary interpretation since you live your life in echo chambers with the rest of the Top 2% commentators who don’t have a life outside of Reddit. Looks are important but I also reject some pretty attractive women because our lifestyles don’t add up, our personalities clash, they’re not into healthy eating & fitness or they’re just shitty people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 05:13 PM
5	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Same reason why these same kinds of women find Harlequin relatable. Relatable also doesn’t mean cool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 05:11 PM
6	When men say "Men suffer in silence", most of them think that's cool and masculine. Nobody thinks it’s cool or masculine. And not everyone needs therapy and not everything is solved by therapy. Something I guess the typical neurodivergent Redditor would never understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:57 PM
23	Men do reject women at similar rate, it’s just different. If you think we date based on looks alone, I’m going to call you very inexperienced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/26 04:03 PM
0	The "problem" with paying is that men here don't like the types of women willing to pay for themselves on dates. I think almost everyone is unhinged in here. The men, the women and the men roleplaying women. None of this is how real life dating works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 02:55 PM
0	The "problem" with paying is that men here don't like the types of women willing to pay for themselves on dates. PPD is fascinating because people will build entire theories about dating based on Reddit posts, TikToks, and the most extreme examples imaginable. Meanwhile, millions of normal couples are out there dating without ever discussing 80% of the stuff that gets argued about here. If your model of dating says every woman is either a sugar baby, a ball buster, or a single mom looking for a provider, it’s probably time to log off and go interact with actual people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 01:15 PM
1	Expecting Men to Pay for First Dates Is Entitlement Being serious is about effort. Not paying for dinner. Men pay hookers too. Does that mean he’s serious about her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 10:29 AM
-3	Expecting Men to Pay for First Dates Is Entitlement Less likely to be all he’s after. And less likely to be desperate. I’m also not saying don’t pay. I’m saying don’t pay all the time. I personally pretend to be a lot more broke than I actually am.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 01:12 AM
-2	Expecting Men to Pay for First Dates Is Entitlement Just think about that the next time a guy automatically pays for you	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 01:05 AM
5	Expecting Men to Pay for First Dates Is Entitlement Men pay for dates automatically to either get ass or out of desperation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 01:02 AM
4	Why doesn't accurate information bring women more comfort You don’t think men have ever worried about that? Like no woman has ever murdered her date? I’m also a male domestic survivor which gets dismissed as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 12:18 PM
–	I am exhausted by the fake empathy and invalidation I sometimes experience I’d argue there’s a difference though. A lot of people who struggle with weight are often extremely resistant to any advice that challenges their current beliefs. You can show them how calorie intake, protein, strength training, and daily activity affect body composition, and they’ll respond with a list of reasons why it can’t work for them. In a way, it can become almost a “black pill” mindset, believing the situation is completely outside their control and rejecting solutions before they’re ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 12:00 PM
20	Women are not honest about their preferences because men can't handle it The irony is you just showed the difference between having a preference and insulting someone. Saying "I prefer taller men" is honesty. Saying "I don't see you as a man because you're short" is not honesty-it's attaching someone's masculinity and worth to a genetic trait they had zero control over. You also took a small subset of men who react badly to rejection and generalized that behavior to male ego as a whole, which is the same kind of stereotyping people criticize in other contexts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 10:47 AM
0	Does anyone care that dating is better now for women? Only if you watch TikTok or listen to neurodivergent Redditors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 08:44 AM
4	Does anyone care that dating is better now for women? That’s not what’s happening	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 10:39 PM
7	Does anyone care that dating is better now for women? Is it really better for them? Dating apps are making billions by exploiting them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 10:38 PM
1	Would you ever let men penetrate you for money? How much money are we talking?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 11:54 AM
1	Why should women care that men don't have partners? She cares enough to waste her life on Reddit as a Top 1% commenter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 05:29 AM
1	Why should women care that men don't have partners? But this can cut both ways too. If hypergamy exists and a large percentage of women are pursuing the same small pool of highly desirable men, those men have more options and therefore more leverage. That can mean less commitment, more casual arrangements, or women ending up in a rotation where they’re competing for a man’s attention. And the uncomfortable reality is that many people who aim for a partner at the very top of the dating market don’t always bring the same level of attractiveness, st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 05:24 AM
3	Why do men believe they peak in their 50s? If they weren’t actually hitting on me in my 40, why were they fucking me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/26 04:22 PM
1	A lot of the time the orgasm gap is caused by women not wanting to have an orgasm during sex. I know it because I'm that woman How? Most self proclaimed feminists are very unattractive. This does nothing at all to hinder my sex life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/26 11:45 AM
1	A lot of the time the orgasm gap is caused by women not wanting to have an orgasm during sex. I know it because I'm that woman You mean the type of women who men don’t generally want in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/26 11:42 AM
1	Women’s Selectivity Is a Major Cause of the Orgasm Gap in Casual Sex I guess it’s weird to me that there are people who would rather analyze sex to nerd like proportions instead of living life and having sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 04:21 PM
6	Women’s Selectivity Is a Major Cause of the Orgasm Gap in Casual Sex Imagine if you focused on actually getting sex instead of trying to analyze other people having sex. It doesn’t take multiple partners to have sexual experience. It only takes one monogamous one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 04:14 PM
1	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Get into better paying fields and the gap goes away	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 09:46 AM
1	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. No, I was good in school. I just didn’t need college to land a $100k+ career that can’t be replaced by AI. My dating struggles come from cancer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 11:48 PM
1	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. There are other ways to be educated. You don’t need to listen to stuffy professors. “Educated is more of a marketing term used to sell non-forgivable student loans. Educated in what? Wiping asses for a living? Babysitting kids? Going to college does not make you more intellectual. Especially when most women are not becoming surgeons or even doctors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 11:44 PM
1	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. We’re on 57 hours mandatory but I still pull 65 to 70 because I like money. Winter time I take it easy on 40-50 hours after sticking $40k or so in the bank.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 11:37 PM
1	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. My work is very productive. And I get paid well to put in the extra hours. If we only worked 8 hours, bad shit would happen considering my job is critical to public safety.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 11:28 PM
-2	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Right. Because everyone in Europe works 10 hours a week and takes 30 weeks vacation a year. How do you even have infrastructure? lol. I think Europeans are working more than you claim unless they’re non essential. Are you non essential?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 08:43 PM
4	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. And what percentage of women does this make up? For every one of these positions, you have 20+ CNA’s, cashiers, daycare workers, baristas, waitress, secretaries, housekeepers, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 05:59 PM
2	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Women are taking care of children for 50 years? Even women with adult children and even no children work less hours on average. And again. Their degrees are in the lowest paying shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 05:44 PM
2	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Proven men work more hours doing harder jobs for more pay	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 03:00 PM
-1	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. You can’t. Statistics show men work more hours and make more money. The only thing women lead is college education. But that doesn’t mean anything when most of those degrees are in things social work, child development and lower end medical jobs. There’s also no shortage of female DoorDashers and Baristas with college degrees.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 02:37 PM
-3	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Did I say that? No. But usually we’re working harder jobs with longer hours and higher wages. This is all backed by BLS data.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 01:29 PM
2	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. This is what most mean. Always talking about “equal partners” while labor statistics show few of you can carry the same financial weight	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 12:40 PM
2	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Do you have any kind of independent thought? Or just preprogrammed Reddit responses? I’m just explaining what women mean when they say “equal partner”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 12:37 PM
0	Red Pill Men Don't Want Traditional Wives. They Want Adult Children Who Can Also Be Their Mommy. Still waiting for y’all to start working equal jobs. I’m on my third day of 12 hours today and only took Sunday off. My ex didn’t mind spending the money I brought in while working half as much, but still expected housework to be equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/26 12:25 PM
5	Men fail to understand that women want to be chosen, not settled for. If you want to be THE OPTION, you need to look like THE OPTION. If not, you need to either aim to become that option through gym and diet, or date men more on your own level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 03:36 AM
–	Creative and high energy dates are mostly a waste of time Most women aren’t even worth putting that much money and energy in	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/26 02:33 AM
–	The red pill will never tell men the real truth because it would hurt all their feelings. You selectively quoting “so?” while ignoring the actual point kinda proves mine. You made sweeping claims: women wait months, providers get sex fastest, rich men get the hottest women, most men can’t overcome unattractiveness, etc. I gave a real-life counterexample because reality matters more than internet theories. And if your response to people disagreeing is “you’re not on my intellectual level,” that sounds less like intelligence and more like dodging criticism. Dating isn’t learned from da…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 12:19 PM
–	The red pill will never tell men the real truth because it would hurt all their feelings. So it means your post is gender war fiction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 11:56 AM
–	The red pill will never tell men the real truth because it would hurt all their feelings. Actually, fucking on the first date is pretty damn normal for a lot of adults. I’ve had more first-date sex than not, so this idea that women universally wait “a couple months” just doesn’t line up with my lived experience or a lot of people I know. And no, I’m not some rich provider. I actually started getting more first-date sex after being put out of work fighting cancer. I stopped even paying for most dates. So the idea that providers are the ones getting sex fastest or that men historically…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/26 06:38 AM
–	Most men do not have passions or hobbies in their life because they focus more on getting a job and making money, even if it is not what they are passionate about, for a stable family. Did you even read what you linked?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:53 PM
–	Most men do not have passions or hobbies in their life because they focus more on getting a job and making money, even if it is not what they are passionate about, for a stable family. Right. If it’s not artsy, pretentious and extremely cultured, it’s not considered a hobby to these people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 09:49 PM
1	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. Keep telling yourself that. It’s funny how many of you think life is playing out like a chick flick drama series. That’s not real life though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 02:42 AM
1	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. That’s not been true in my dating life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 02:16 AM
3	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. Keep telling yourself that	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 01:04 AM
3	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. If you say so lol. Body positivity really has a lot of you brainwashed	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/26 12:06 AM
1	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. It has everything with being desirable to the men they actually want. We don’t want a fat chick calling herself curvy in shape-wear considering the average female bodyfat percentage is 40%. We want beach abs which used to be much more common 20 years ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 07:26 PM
1	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. Where did I say it’s all I’m getting? It’s primarily what exists though. Put it this way. The average woman can do zero pull-ups. Fitness studies and surveys estimate that only 1% to 5% of the general female population can perform a single strict, unassisted pull-up. You also just twisted my words. Where did I say “Bully them into being with me”? More like bully them into being something that’s actually desirable. I also don’t have to do this any way other than going on about my day. Like I said…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 06:56 PM
2	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. Why should I adapt to women who are less than me? Could the solution be to eat at her self esteem to the point where she adapts? Most women reject most men in this sub for a guy like me, only to realize after that my lifestyle makes them very uncomfortable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 06:34 PM
1	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. read your post. The issue is that your framing only seems to move in one direction. You keep bringing it back to “men should adapt,” but that assumes men are always the variable that needs changing and women are just the environment to react to. That’s the part I disagree with. Yes, people should improve themselves. Social skills matter. Fitness matters. Confidence matters. Respect matters. But relationships are still about mutual compatibility, not just adaptation. You say if someone is incompa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 06:21 PM
5	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. You keep reframing what I’m saying into a completely different argument. I was specifically talking about compatibility with women and parts of the dating pool, and you keep converting it into: “men should adapt or nobody owes them pity.” That’s not the argument I made. I never said men shouldn’t improve. I never said people owe anyone attraction. I never said someone should be accepted “as is” while putting in zero effort. What I said was: at some point “adapt” becomes “ignore incompatibility.”…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 05:40 PM
1	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. You’re still collapsing two different things together: 1-refusing to improve yourself, and 2-refusing to date people you’re incompatible with. Those are not the same. If a guy is socially awkward, bitter, disrespectful, unemployed, unhygienic, or puts in zero effort and then says “women should take me as I am,” sure. that’s refusing to adapt. But what about women who are the same? Why is she in my DM’s and not his when she has not a chance in hell? Adaptation has limits. At some point it becomes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 04:30 PM
6	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. I think you’re assuming adaptation only goes one direction. Of course people should improve themselves. I’ve changed a lot in my own life. But dating isn’t “men adapt, women evaluate.” Everyone filters and everyone adapts. The part I disagree with is this idea that if a man has standards, he’s “refusing to adapt,” but if a woman has standards, that’s just preference. At some point adaptation becomes “date people you’re fundamentally incompatible with.” If I’m disciplined about fitness, active, s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 04:12 PM
4	If you are not willing to adapt to the dating market, your complaints about dating is unreasonable. What if it’s not the men who need to adapt a lot of times?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 04:02 PM
0	Most women aren’t looking for a provider they’re looking for a teammate Except I don’t have 150 minutes a week worth of chores in the first place. Imagine that. But I’m sure a woman can move in and create them. And according to my ex, 150 minutes would be rookie numbers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 06:21 AM
1	Most women aren’t looking for a provider they’re looking for a teammate Working has nothing to do with the point. You can work full time and still be a sedentary homebody. I’m talking lifestyle. If two people spend most of their free time sitting at home, snacking, ordering takeout, making bigger meals, binge-watching TV, leaving dishes, laundry, clutter and mess behind, of course there are more chores. I don’t want that lifestyle for myself or a partner. I’m active, out doing things, training in the gym, hiking, socializing, meal prepping simple nutritional meals, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 05:00 AM
-1	Most women aren’t looking for a provider they’re looking for a teammate You mean get yelled at for not loading the dishwasher her way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 10:03 PM
0	Most women aren’t looking for a provider they’re looking for a teammate I’d argue that most women who complain about mismatch in chore responsibilities are sedentary everywhere else in their life. When you’re a homebody, you tend to create more chores and obsess over them. I’ve been with women like this and our lifestyles are vastly different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 09:34 PM
1	Why are so many women convinced that they’re morally superior to men? Well words like mansplaining became popular to boast superiority. That’s more than just some.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 03:24 AM
4	Why do many women find it unacceptable if a man has paid for sex in the past, but are fine with a man who has slept with hundreds of women through regular dating? Most of the guys here have no context that they don’t actually have to tell anyone	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 01:56 PM
1	Feminism would lessen in popularity if men could prove that they like women for anything other than sex Except there are far more unattractive women out there than there are attractive ones. This is complete nonsense. Maybe to desperate PPD men, most women are attractive, but that’s not reality outside of fringe Reddit subs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 04:17 AM
0	How do I go about letting men know that I have certain financial standards when it comes to dating someone seriously without seeming like a gold digger or hurting feelings? Honestly, I’d just say it directly. You’re allowed to have standards and preferences. Better to be upfront than waste someone’s time. That said, I personally wouldn’t be the right fit for this mindset, and I say that as someone who has lived both sides of it. I’m a pancreatic cancer survivor. During treatment and recovery, I went from successful and financially stable to struggling. I remember very clearly how differently some women looked at me when I was temporarily broke from fighting to surv…	/r/RedPillWomen	28/05/26 01:13 AM
4	Men Care Way Too Much About Female Validation There are a few truths buried in this that get stretched into a worldview. Yes, attraction is uneven. Yes, some men struggle more than others. Yes, dating can feel asymmetrical and rejection-heavy for men. And yes, a lot of men tie self-worth way too much to female validation. But this whole framing quietly turns “dating is difficult and unequal” into “average men are basically invisible until women settle.” That’s where it loses me. First, the idea that average men spend decades sexless while a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 10:39 PM
1	🔵BP/Feminists can't get their story straight about whether men's attractiveness is innate (looks) or built (wealth+status+looks) You’re partly proving my point here. I agree there are varying degrees of agency. Someone bullied relentlessly, socially anxious, neurodivergent, or deeply avoidant absolutely starts farther behind than someone naturally confident and socially calibrated. Pretending everyone starts from the same place is naïve. But that still doesn’t mean agency disappears or that the only explanation becomes “society made me this way.” Where I think you’re overlooking reality is the asymmetry in incentives. Men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 12:55 PM
3	🔵BP/Feminists can't get their story straight about whether men's attractiveness is innate (looks) or built (wealth+status+looks) You’re mixing up two different arguments. First, I never said shy/avoidant men are “bad” or undeserving. I said those traits make life harder across multiple domains if they go unmanaged. Dating isn’t some magical isolated exception. If you struggle with confidence, avoidance, social anxiety, communication, handling rejection, or putting yourself out there, yes, that can affect interviews, networking, leadership, friendships, conflict resolution, and career growth too. A recent example from my o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 12:30 PM
3	🔵BP/Feminists can't get their story straight about whether men's attractiveness is innate (looks) or built (wealth+status+looks) I think you’re mixing up “good men” with avoidant men. If someone is chronically shy, socially avoidant, low-confidence, isolated, never approaches, struggles to communicate, avoids discomfort, and spends most of their time online… then yes, they’re probably going to struggle in dating. But they’re also going to struggle in friendships, networking, interviews, leadership, confidence, career growth, conflict resolution, and a lot of other areas of life too. That isn’t society uniquely targeting “…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 12:06 PM
2	🔵BP/Feminists can't get their story straight about whether men's attractiveness is innate (looks) or built (wealth+status+looks) What do chronically online people have to do with real life dating though? Do you honestly think obese cat people understand anything about dating other than what they read in a Salon article written to monetize off of the engagement?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 06:50 AM
6	🔵BP/Feminists can't get their story straight about whether men's attractiveness is innate (looks) or built (wealth+status+looks) Not really. This whole “most men are unattractive” thing feels way more like an internet narrative pushed by both Red and Blue pill spaces than real life. Yes, attraction is complex and multifaceted but not in the way you’re framing it where women are supposedly perfectly comfortable finding almost all men unattractive while obsessing over wealth, status, and credentials like life is an episode of Sex and the City. In the real world, attraction is messy and contextual. Looks matter. Personality …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 06:42 AM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men I do my own laundry unless you wanna pay for what you damage or shrink. Since you would have no idea which clothes I put in the dryer and not. They’re also not going to cook for me. Again, I eat a very structured diet that’s very specific. Any cheating is gonna be either on my smoker or in a restaurant. Unless you plan on spending 20+ hours in the yard fucking around with a brisket, I doubt you would cook for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 11:31 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men Yes, and so do I. This is about chores and people wasting their lives on them because of their lifestyle. Then complaining about the chores they created. I choose not to live like this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 11:15 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men Why would she make it for me, knowing I’m not going to eat it? Women, I date know exactly what I eat and why I eat that way..	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 11:14 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men The fact that you even asked, that tells me we are not even close to being the same. I don’t eat elaborate meals. Too many calories too many carbs not enough protein. My meal structured based on calories and macros with micro adjustments, based on my specific training for the day. Morning is overnight oats, then I go to the gym and have a protein smoothie when I come home. A couple hours later I have Greek style grilled chicken with rice and a vegetable. Later in the evening, I have 3 to 4 eggs …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 10:43 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men I didn’t say that. But a big part is. The more sedentary a person is, the more they consume and the more mess they create. Imagine if you had more hobbies. How often would you have to actually do these other things? Sedentary people who spend most of their time at home create more mess and require/expect more chores. I do laundry once a week for instance. I’m rarely in my bathroom. And rarely in the kitchen. While you’re cooking, I’m in the gym or out for a run or a hike. I’d rather have a compa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 10:29 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men I’m not going to eat the meal though. That’s what you don’t understand. So I should clean your mess and then make my own and clean that too? Ig If I did all this shit expected, it would create much less time to do things that actually matter. Too much time is wasted on these chores in the first place. I choose to live much more active and efficient.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 10:24 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men No. I’m saying most people, both men and women are fat. I’m trying to explain a couple of things. First is how couples can minimize chores, and secondly how being a man who doesn’t create the same mess as my partners is still expected to contribute to all these chores. Activity level and lifestyle absolutely affect household upkeep. If someone spends more time sedentary at home, there’s often simply more wear and tear on the living space. More meals eaten at home, more snacking, more dishes, mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 10:18 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men I’m explaining why most people have so much mess. When I got physically fit, my chores decreased by about 75%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 10:09 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men Most of this country is obese. Even if they don’t think they are. I’m just explaining how laziness and overconsumption causes more messes that I don’t want any part of cleaning because I’m not contributing to it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 10:04 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men You’re the one that said if work is 50/50, so chores should be too. But what if mess isn’t 50/50? You know damn well that when a man creates more mess, it’s always a complaint. Women can’t have it both ways. Why can’t you just clean what you mess up? That’s what men are told.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 10:00 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men I don’t cook food for nobody. I make and eat my own. But yes. The way most Americans eat, it is an unnecessary mess and the average female body-fat percentage reflects that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 09:57 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men If you were creating an unfair amount of mess, why should I have to clean it? Wouldn’t it make sense to clean your own if it’s really about 50/50?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 09:54 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men Don’t create unnecessary chores. My breakfast fits in a blender bottle with virtually no cleanup except a couple measuring cups and the bottle itself. What about yours? If I’m eating my overnight oats, and you need some messy breakfast with eggs, bacon, hash browns, toast, etc, am I supposed to clean half your shit up? I don’t cook meals together, I expect to do my own laundry, etc. But somehow I’ve been expected to clean messes I never even made.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 09:48 PM
–	Women use chores to avoid submitting to men Or maybe her endless chore obsession is getting in the way of everyday life. Sedentary people tend to have more chores. Bigger, more involved, messier meals, more time at home messing shit up, more snacks, more crumbs, more dishes, going through more laundry because fat people sweat more, more laundry yet because bigger bodies require more fabric, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 09:29 PM
0	Kinky sex is not "treating a man better" It’s just funny how you confused edge play with domestic violence. Because men bad according to Reddit	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 04:18 PM
1	Kinky sex is not "treating a man better" Says someone who is trying to define kinks. It was a completely controlled environment with all safety protocols put into place. We even took fire play classes together to do this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 04:16 PM
1	Kinky sex is not "treating a man better" Subjective. And you’re literally talking to someone who set a woman on fire once.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 04:09 PM
1	Kinky sex is not "treating a man better" Oral being kinky or not depends who you ask.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 04:07 PM
0	Kinky sex is not "treating a man better" That’s not the point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 03:22 PM
0	Kinky sex is not "treating a man better" Funny how women complain all the time about men who won’t eat cat. But Reddit is a haven for “WOW” double standards	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 03:17 PM
–	Would you consider a man entitled for wanting a romantic partner? Everything has loneliness to an extent, both men and women. There’s no other topic because there’s no epidemic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 01:37 PM
–	Would you consider a man entitled for wanting a romantic partner? There is no male loneliness epidemic though. That’s made up by podcasters and media outlets farming for engagement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 08:14 AM
–	Would you consider a man entitled for wanting a romantic partner? The red flags are there. They go ignored. 100 women vs accountability. I’ve literally gone out of my way creating red flags to get them to go away. They don’t though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 08:12 AM
10	Women Do Not Have “Dating Issues.” Only Men do. For some reason Pretending its anywhere Equal think a lot of these conversations get oversimplified into “men get no attention, women get unlimited options,” when reality is much more nuanced than that. Yes, average women generally receive more raw attention and easier access to dating than average men. I don’t think that’s controversial. But attention itself is not the same thing as compatibility, emotional connection, lifestyle alignment, attraction, values, discipline, or long-term relationship potential. I’m in a different category than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/26 06:20 PM
5	The bare minimum is fine. Women just romanticize codependency and anxious attachment When you eat healthy, you’re much better off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/26 01:09 AM
6	Men aging like fine wine is mostly a myth Men generally do and this was true long before the manosphere even existed. I’m finally at 6 figures as my earning only increased with age and experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/26 04:42 AM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Naw. I’m older and come here mostly for entertainment as these takes are pretty wild. Same reason I go to r/antinatalism, r/nofap, r/fuckcars, r/collapse and many other fringe subs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 02:48 PM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts No it’s not and you’re weird and creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 03:00 AM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts I didn’t post ‘sexual abuse,’ and throwing around terms like that because you’re angry cheapens actual abuse victims. It was a screenshot with a first name, tiny profile image, and messages that were not identifying to the public in any realistic sense. No last name, no phone number, no address, no social accounts, nothing remotely close to doxxing someone. And now we’ve somehow escalated from ‘I didn’t like that screenshot’ to accusations of criminal behavior and ‘sexual abuse’ because people o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 02:46 AM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Don’t care. Don’t talk to her anymore, nor do I even remember which message it was. You’re very strange.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 02:33 AM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts The weird part isn’t even the screenshot at this point. It’s that you apparently saved it for months just to weaponize it later during an argument. That’s obsessive behavior. It had a first name, a tiny profile image, and generic text messages. Nobody is identifying you from that unless they already personally knew you. The average person scrolling past would forget it existed in 5 seconds. The fact this sat in your phone waiting to be used later says a lot more than the screenshot itself ever d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 02:29 AM
2	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts You literally had ChatGPT generate a legal-sounding wall of text to make an anonymized Reddit screenshot sound equivalent to abuse. Meanwhile the reality was: no full name no phone number no identifiable profile tiny low-resolution image random Reddit thread debate context, not harassment There’s a massive difference between actual revenge porn/doxxing and someone posting an anonymized text screenshot during an internet argument. Throwing around words like “abuser” because you don’t like somebod…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 01:17 AM
2	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Identifying information? Identify her then. You can’t. Again. Insanity. Maybe lay off the doom scrolling and touch grass. It’s weird how you have this obsession with me. Borderline creepy to be honest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 12:49 AM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Consensual sex is abuse now? You’re about as insane as that DoorDash girl who opened some dudes door, filmed him naked, uploaded it to TikTok and claimed Sexual Assault. Keep trying to gaslight though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 12:39 AM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts You are completely insane. Typical of Reddit though. Get some help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 09:28 PM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts I understand the “internet is forever” point even though it’s not unless you think you can find my MySpace posts. But you’re talking about it like Reddit is some giant interconnected FBI database where everyone is studying tiny screenshots trying to identify random people from a first name and a thumbnail-sized profile image. The average person scrolling PurplePillDebate is not conducting facial recognition investigations on blurry Messenger screenshots from anonymous users. And no, “much of the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 05:12 PM
2	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Her first name is there a tiny ass gif you can barely even see. How many people do you really think come to this loser sub? Based on world population, roughly 8.1 billion people, and assuming basically nobody viewed it, the odds are functionally zero. Even if 1 random person on Earth saw it: 1 / 8,100,000,000 = 0.0000000123% That’s before factoring in the person would also need to: recognize a tiny face/icon, know the first-name, connect it to the right person, and care enough to do anything. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 04:45 PM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Holy fuck your gaslighting is insane. Touch grass.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 04:34 PM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts That was proving a point far different from your fake accusations. Reddits gonna Reddit though	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 04:29 PM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts No. I didn’t. You’re completely lying to push you’re habitually online Reddit worldview	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 04:15 PM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts No I didn’t. You are completely misrepresenting what I said to fit your own narrative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 04:08 PM
3	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Reported for trying to debate in a debate post? I’m trying to debate you and you won’t debate me. Because I exposed your whole post and you’re only looking for people you can pick apart easy. Once someone comes in who can actually debate you run away	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 03:12 PM
2	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts No. Because you can’t back it up or dispute it. You’re only after low hanging fruit. You wanted a debate, let’s debate. I don’t think you’re capable of a logical rebuttal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 03:04 PM
2	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts I did address it if you can read. I just gave you a whole ass reply if you bothered to pay attention instead of running to the lunch lady.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 03:02 PM
8	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts See, because you can’t debate me because this reads less like a discussion about normal adult relationships and more like something written by people who spend too much time arguing online about imaginary ‘gender war’ scenarios that barely exist in real life. Most people offline are not demanding degrading sex acts from partners like they’re ordering custom features on a subscription package. Most people naturally figure out what they both enjoy and build intimacy from there without turning it i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 02:59 PM
1	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts How do you know I wasn’t baiting you into debate? Unless I’m right and you can’t debate. Run to the mods instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 02:52 PM
7	Women don't owe men kinky sex acts Every day these posts look more and more like they were written by children. Who even talks like this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/26 02:44 PM
7	Gen Z men should give all the essential jobs that runs society only to women and old men What’s childish about it is that you’re reducing the entire meaning of life and human value down to internet clout, status symbols, and female validation like a teenager who learned masculinity from TikTok “alpha” influencers. You’re basically saying: “If women and society don’t constantly validate you, your existence is meaningless.” That’s not maturity. Basically insecurity disguised as philosophy. Also, calling essential workers “low value” while simultaneously depending on them to keep socie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 08:12 PM
10	Gen Z men should give all the essential jobs that runs society only to women and old men You sound very childish	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 06:55 PM
1	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? Then stop telling me shit like this. https://preview.redd.it/hv7wu6e4wp0h1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=750f821e641a313423730f161a25341583303701	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 02:32 PM
1	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? No, the gym is part of me. In the way I dress, the way I act and the way I live my everyday life which consists of a very dedicated diet and training routine. But I don’t open my feelings up to just anyone. The moment I do and even act like I start to actually give a shit about her as a human and not a sex toy that’s when they come up with some reason why it’s not going to work or just start talking less and less. These women initially come on very strong. Very clingy in some cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 01:03 PM
2	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? Stay lonely, my friend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 11:46 PM
2	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? How doesn’t it make sense when you’re the type of habitually Redditor I’m talking about	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 11:42 PM
2	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? It’s just not the flex you think it is. I mean is being a Top 1% Commentator any better?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 11:21 PM
9	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? White knighting won’t get you laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 11:16 PM
1	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? Start showing affection, chivalry, becoming vulnerable, showing intimacy. Showing something beyond my Gym Bro persona.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 10:42 PM
6	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? This is the internet though. Big difference. At the end of the day, your online opinion doesn’t matter. What you think of me doesn’t affect anything in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 09:38 PM
4	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? Nobody cares what terminally online Redditors think. Especially ones who believe in pills and other make believe shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 09:37 PM
12	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? But you’re assuming any of this actually matters outside of Reddit like this place is real life. For a lot of people here, Reddit seems to become their entire social framework, identity, and understanding of human interaction. Terminally online culture turns everything into psychological analysis, ideology, and “attraction strategy” discourse instead of just recognizing that human beings vent sometimes. I post here at times to blow off steam. About dating, relationships, money stress, my cancer …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 09:15 PM
19	Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship? It only comes off as “whining” if you’re the type of person who treats the internet like it’s not populated by actual human beings with real emotions. Which honestly is common on Reddit because a lot of people there are terminally online and start viewing every interaction through ideological filters instead of normal human behavior. A guy venting frustration, loneliness, rejection, or emotional exhaustion is not automatically demanding sex or claiming women owe him a relationship. Sometimes peo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 08:40 PM
3	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? That’s not it at all because I literally get chased by these women. With the number of times I’ve been fucked over when dating and in relationships, I keep my heart under tight lock and key unless I feel I can trust her enough. Problem is, when I finally start opening up, they run. Like they love the idea of a nice, romantic guy until they actually have that. I recently had one calling and texting 30+ times a day if I ignored her. But when I finally started opening up and felt comfortable enough…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 05:23 PM
4	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? I’ve had women literally say they like flowers, romance, and thoughtful gestures on early dates. This is a huge discussion in my local singles groups on Facebook too, so I’m not talking about terminally online Reddit dating takes from a bunch of 18-year-olds calling everything “simp” and “corny af.” What I’ve learned though is a lot of people like the idea of romantic gestures more than the actual emotional stability attached to them. The gestures create validation, excitement, attention, and an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 02:47 PM
4	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? I’m far from spineless. But the flowers and romantic gestures tend to put me in the friend zone. It’s the women I ignore, don’t text back for hours and don’t really do anything for who come chasing. Then when I do open up, they leave too. So I’ve learned to play the asshole as it keeps them engaged and thirsting for validation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 01:52 PM
5	Can women really not understand where Nice Guys come from ? I think a bigger issue is they believe they are doing everything right, then wonder why it’s backfiring. In my dating experiences, women claim to want one thing, then end up going for something entirely different. I’ve learned that the best way to lose a girl or get friend-zoned is to offer chivalry. It’s never the women I bring flowers to on a first date or open car doors for who want me long term. It’s the women I don’t like enough to do that for. I’m learning that I have to start treating the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 01:31 PM
1	You are not entitled to a relationship When we distance ourselves after sex, it usually means the sex sucked.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 05:56 AM
3	Men do NOT need to “do better”. How do you not understand what I’m saying? My point is the gains are going to make you a lot more picky. But the problem is, the majority of American women are overweight or obese. Your dating pool of who you are likely to want to actually date becomes much smaller. But the fat chicks will try and chase you like they’re chasing down their next Whopper meal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/26 12:31 AM
-1	The desire for romance cannot be replaced by a strong social circle The funniest thing about feminists not having kids is they create a fertility gap across party lines. They’re allowing conservatives to raise the voters of tomorrow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/26 12:03 AM
5	Men do NOT need to “do better”. It very much will. But you will soon find that the women who meet your level are very low supply as the average female body fat percentage is near 40%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 11:49 PM
3	Men do NOT need to “do better”. I’m going to say this. Once a man starts hitting the barbell and getting into shape, he learns the bar very much is hell. Swimming in a pool full of big backs who think they’re curvy goddesses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 04:58 PM
–	Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you have game or mastered the game Am I really worked up? I come here for the entertainment people like you provide. Or is that just an illusion in that doomscrolling little Top 1% poster head of yours? For someone who claims they don’t endorse pills, you certainly speak the language and push the narrative while spending 2/3 of your life here. Nothing you’re saying makes any sort of sense outside of this sub.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 03:51 AM
–	Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you have game or mastered the game As a guy who has run through well over 100 women, I honestly wish I was that guy married for 15 years and still going strong. And if she stayed for 15 years and is still there, he wasn’t a backup. Some of you pill obsessed people need to step away from the podcasts and Toktoks and go breathe in some fresh air instead of the dusty shit in mom & dads basement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 03:44 AM
–	The feeling of loneliness on men If that was true, I wouldn’t attract so many women who become attached and clingy	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 02:03 AM
–	The feeling of loneliness on men Very much. It’s not about the sex. PPD needs to stop listening to these influencers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:29 AM
–	The feeling of loneliness on men This is complete BS. I have sex with women I want to and I’m still incredibly lonely. These pill ideologies are so out of touch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:16 AM
–	Men like to forget and remember about importance of looks when it's convenient. “Some Men” is the key here and that is generally very young men before maturity kicks in. Reddit seems to live on this bubble where all men are 18 year old bros. But men generally have a much wider scale as to what they find attractive. Women did the same before social media trends took over. What women used to see as fantasies, 20-30 years ago have now become the bar and men they would have found attractive enough to marry back then are now seen as invisible. I mean look at how dumb and superfi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 12:27 PM
–	Men like to forget and remember about importance of looks when it's convenient. With all the men I see thirsting over fat chicks, this just isn’t true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:28 AM
1	What is it like wanting female validation badly Validation feels good. The only reason you see things differently is probably because you never went without it. So you wouldn’t really pay attention unless it was gone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/26 06:58 PM
0	Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympathetic ‘I have a degree in psychology so I know what I’m talking about’ is the exact same ‘I’m more qualified than you’ argument you just said was narcissistic. So either that behavior is narcissistic… or it’s just people being confident/arrogant in a debate. You can’t call it narcissism when others do it and then turn around and use the same appeal to authority yourself. That’s my point. This isn’t narcissism, it’s just people being dismissive in arguments. Slapping clinical labels on it doesn’t make …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 02:06 PM
0	Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympathetic ‘I’m more qualified’ = arrogant. Or even rage bait. Narcissism = a long-term pattern of entitlement, lack of empathy, and grandiosity across situations. Those aren’t the same thing. You’re turning a one-off rude comment into a personality diagnosis. I was a victim of narcissism for 13 years. This behavior you’re describing is not that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:58 PM
2	Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympathetic Someone being condescending in a debate = arrogant. Narcissism = a long-term pattern of entitlement, lack of empathy, need for admiration, and exploiting others. Those aren’t the same thing. Slapping ‘narcissist’ on every guy who says something rude just turns it into a buzzword, not an actual description of behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:54 PM
2	Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympathetic Nobody’s defending the weird behavior you dealt with. But labeling a whole group as ‘narcissistic’ and using a handful of bad interactions to dismiss men entirely is just overgeneralizing with therapy buzzwords. Call out individuals, sure. But this reads more like a vent post looking for validation than an actual argument about behavior at scale.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:48 PM
4	Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympathetic You literally have main character syndrome. Now you say people are accusing you of being “unqualified to debate” yet when the opportunity comes to debate, you cower because you know you can’t. Has nothing to do with you being a woman, it has to do with you being you. It your post is meant to be a flex to show off your superiority complex. Not to actually debate. And I’m not even Red Pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:41 PM
4	Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympathetic Why? For calling out the 9065496th men bad/validation post this month alone?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 01:06 PM
7	Redpillers are rude and that's why women here are unsympathetic I can assure you, you’re not that important	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/26 02:45 AM
1	What is your vetting advice for women? Most men treat these people fine. The name is Karen for a reason	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 11:03 PM
3	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? 100 women Vs accountability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 06:26 PM
3	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? Who have I ever said I punish? You said that. Not me. What I said is I casually date. I said the women who used to reject me are now front and center. Women I would have sex with but would never date seriously at this point in my life. I don’t string anyone along. I don’t promise anyone anything. Never tell anyone I want a relationship. If anything, I tell women I’m not ready for anything and if there is that possibility, it needs to be taken slow. But they still push and push, obsessively tryin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 05:34 PM
5	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? Men do hold those men accountable though. You couldn’t openly assault a woman without other men stepping up and beating the living fuck out of you. It’s also why rapists and abusers of women and children don’t last in prison. And here’s something else that doesn’t get discussed. When men tell women about their poor dating choices, we’re brushed off as being jealous or mansplaining which is the new buzzword to shut down any piece of male advice given to a woman. We know who these pieces of shit a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 04:56 PM
3	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? You’re not going to read it because you can’t debate it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 02:46 PM
2	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? Men don’t claim this. Only a few terminally online Redditors claim this. It’s obvious social media is your reality and you have no understanding of the real world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 02:45 PM
3	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? Nobody is delusional here except you. This is what happens when you live in terminally online gender echo chambers. You’re acting like men don’t hold other men accountable, but in real life guys who cross certain lines get cut off, exposed, and yes face serious consequences socially and legally. There’s zero tolerance for harming women or kids. That’s not something men casually ignore. Street justice exists. Prison justice exists which is why men who harm women and children end up with broken bo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 02:36 PM
2	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? Except men do stop him. Y’all just choose to ignore that because it doesn’t align with the online gender war. The men who do this aren’t actively doing it in public. No different than the women abusing their kids or female teachers fucking their students.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 02:19 PM
13	Do you think most guys suffer the consequences of the actions of the few that are dangerous? Ohhh got it. So “a few dangerous men” somehow turns into “most men are cowardly, delusional, weak man-children.” Solid leap. Really airtight logic there. You didn’t answer the question, you just went on a rant about how most men are the problem and called it insight. If a guy said this about women, you’d be screaming misogyny before he finished the sentence. The irony is wild. You’re criticizing men for “silence” while actively shutting down any actual discussion by defaulting to “men bad.” That…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 02:15 PM
–	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy So we agree then. Therapy doesn’t actually solve problems, it just teaches you how to cope with them. Cool. Then why is “go to therapy” thrown at men like it’s some universal fix every time they say something real? Not everything is a mindset issue. Some problems are external. You can’t CBT your way into a better dating market, undo life events, or magically change your situation. At some point you’re not “lacking coping skills,” you’re just dealing with reality. That’s the part people keep dodg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/26 01:07 AM
18	Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male Concerns I’ll actually argue that as a male rape survivor, there is absolutely zero outreach and I was in fact made fun of as “gay” when opening up about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 07:31 PM
–	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Why is it always assumed people need professional help?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 07:05 PM
1	Is there anything at all that you feel like men need grace for? I’m not saying that’s every group, but I’ve seen enough of it firsthand to know it’s not rare either, especially around exes’ friend circles. There’s a lot more dysfunction there than people want to admit, it just gets framed differently. And for what it’s worth, I’ve had plenty of female friends open up to me specifically because they don’t feel judged, so it’s not like I’m coming at this from some outsider perspective. What I think gets lost in this whole conversation is how much of the “male …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 05:20 PM
3	Is there anything at all that you feel like men need grace for? This is a huge stereotype. It’s mostly women who I could never be vulnerable around. I’ve never had a fellow man laugh at and mock me for crying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 05:03 PM
1	Is there anything at all that you feel like men need grace for? I dunno. A lot of these so called support systems women claim to have seem to be full of gossip and backstabbing. Women also tend to be lonelier than the internet feminist spaces claim. I have a lot of friends who are women. None of them are as emotionally put together as Blue Pill people here claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 04:59 PM
0	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. Married almost 20 years and you think that gives you insight into modern dating? You’ve been out of the market since before dating apps, social media, and algorithm-driven matching even existed. That’s like someone who hasn’t worked in 20 years trying to lecture people about today’s job market. And yeah, I’m here debating because I’m actually living in the current reality. You’re speaking from a completely different era and acting like it translates 1:1. It doesn’t. Being married long-term doesn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 03:48 PM
1	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. Nothing was written by ChatGPT. You just don’t want to accept that you’re wrong so you’ll just deflect that I was using AI. Have you ever even been any relationship or even dated? Because people like you spend your entire life on the Internet, debating hypotheticals from takes you learned inside of echo chambers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 02:29 PM
1	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. You didn’t prove your point with that screenshot, you exposed the exact contradiction I’ve been talking about. That message wasn’t “thanks, I got what I wanted.” It was sarcasm. Nobody sends “thanks for using me” as a genuine expression of satisfaction. That’s someone calling out the situation after the fact. So no, this isn’t some clean, intentional dynamic where two people calmly agree on “low investment, mutual benefit, everyone’s happy.” If it was, there wouldn’t be sarcasm, follow-ups, or a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 02:23 PM
1	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. You’re not actually responding to my point, you’re sidestepping it. Yeah, women can want casual sex. Nobody argued that. The issue is you’re using that one scenario to explain away everything, including situations that clearly aren’t just “she got what she wanted and that’s it.” If this was all just casual and intentional, women wouldn’t constantly complain about ghosting, breadcrumbing, and being treated like an afterthought. That only happens when expectations don’t match reality. So which is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 01:08 PM
1	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. So let me get this straight. A guy who breadcrumb texts, disappears for days, hits you up at midnight, and treats you like a backup… is now “offering something better than being single” because he made you feel “desirable” for about 48 hours? That’s not “better than bad,” that is the bad. You just described it with nicer words. You’re basically saying the bar isn’t “does this improve her life,” it’s “did he give her a temporary dopamine hit before acting like a ghost.” That’s not peace vs. relat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 12:30 PM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy And how many women are even lifting? Furthermore, how many are only doing legs and ass, 95% of the time?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/26 11:59 AM
1	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. Umm texting at more than booty call hours after he struck out with someone else and contacted his backup plan isn’t up someone’s ass. You’re seriously reaching.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 10:35 PM
3	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. Attractive people choose attractive people, average people generally choose average people and unattractive people are usually with unattractive people. Go outside and look around. Pay attention to what the average couple looks like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 04:08 PM
3	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. Now of course this is only true in Reddit echo chambers. It’s interesting how many of you have so much dating knowledge without ever actually dating before. All you guys do is debate fringe ideologies in echo chambers. Meanwhile, dating and relationships in the real world is nothing like this	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 04:05 PM
1	Women don't chase Chad because women don't experience post-nut clarity Chad peaked in high school in about 1987. Why do y’all call him Chad?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 12:16 PM
4	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. I’m not switching anything. It’s literally a common complaint that doesn’t fit inside your bubble. Dodging the example doesn’t answer it. Does that behavior beat ‘peace,’ yes or no?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 12:14 PM
3	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. So breadcrumbimg, only texting at midnight and waiting for days after sex to text again feels desirable?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 11:44 AM
1	Some men need to wake up and realise that being single and being lonely are not the same thing How?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 10:37 AM
4	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. What is being offered exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 10:34 AM
11	Men don't understand that not only women compare them with each other, but they also have fixed standards. Better than bad isn’t enough yet somehow ‘bad’ still gets picked every day. Interesting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 10:31 AM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy You’re mixing a few things together. I didn’t say ‘men don’t need therapy’ as a universal. I said it’s overprescribed as a default solution and not necessary for a lot of people. And for a lot of men, it’s a huge disconnect. Therapy is basically the chiropractor of mental health. Helpful for some people with specific problems, but massively overprescribed as a default fix for everything. That’s my issue. People act like it’s mandatory when for a lot of people, things like structure, discipline, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 08:15 AM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy You’re still projecting and stretching my argument. Training 6–7 days a week isn’t compulsion unless it’s causing dysfunction. It’s not. My responsibilities are handled, my health improved, and the results speak for themselves as I’ve beat the impossible. That’s discipline. How many people have beat obesity without medical intervention? How many people have not only beat pancreatic cancer, but actually lived a relatively normal life both during and after treatment? And I didn’t say therapy is ‘b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 07:54 AM
1	Some men need to wake up and realise that being single and being lonely are not the same thing I can tell the OP has never had a girlfriend before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 07:46 AM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy You’re projecting your own past onto me and calling it insight while trying to push therapy onto me like a Jehovah’s Witness. Compulsion is lack of control. Skipping responsibilities, harming your health, and being unable to stop. What I’m doing is structured, intentional, and has produced real outcomes: I lost 100 lbs and beat a cancer with a 10% survival rate. This is the reason why I gained weight during 12 rounds of aggressive chemotherapy rather than withering away. That’s not ‘compulsive,’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 07:10 AM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy There’s nothing compulsive about this. This is about health and aesthetics	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 06:33 AM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy I’m all over the place. This is Wednesdays Leg day. I’m going to try and hit my second Push day of the week tomorrow, midday but there’s no telling if I’ll make it. Depends on what I have going on and what my recovery feels like. Could be in the evening, could be at night again. I won’t know until it happens. But what I do know is I hit 6 to 7 days regardless. This is why I fired my trainer though. I couldn’t commit to a time and I was wasting sessions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 06:30 AM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Gym, friends, family, hiking, kayaking, travel, being a father, etc. Same reason why I won’t commit to a scheduled personal trainer and train using ChatGPT instead. Here I am in the gym at 3:20am because I couldn’t find any other time today. Can I wake a therapist up at 3am and make him meet me at his office? <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 06:23 AM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy It would cut into time for better, more effective things. You sound like a holy roller trying to sell me on Sunday Mass	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 06:16 AM
3	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy That’s “some” people. Thats not the majority of people seeking therapy as Reddit tries to sell it as religious scripture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 04:40 AM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Except that’s not what the data says. A large meta-analysis found physical activity was about 1.5x more effective than meds and therapy for reducing depression and anxiety symptoms. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/is-exercise-more-effective-than-medication-for-depression-and-anxiety So no, ‘nothing beats meds’ isn’t scientific. At best, they’re comparable. At worst, you’re ignoring evidence that lifestyle interventions can outperform them	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 04:28 AM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Bluepill is just normal’ is exactly how echo chambers work. You normalize your own worldview and call everything else weird. Step outside this sub and a lot of these takes don’t land the way you think they do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 02:30 AM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Boredom? I’m letting the carbs go through my body before a night time gym session. Unless be honest, if therapy really worked, you wouldn’t be claiming to be part of pill ideology. I come here for entertainment all you people actually believe this shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 02:13 AM
4	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Yes. That’s why I said what I said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 02:00 AM
5	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Online guitar lessons can teach you basics but you can’t really advance. You also end up developing a lot of bad habits a one on one instructor can correct. No different than a personal trainer. Online Gen lessons can’t teach you proper form.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/26 01:06 AM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy They’re not doing it due to the lack of education on how. People are told the wrong way due to decades of myths and predatory industries. So they try and give up like I used to. People are constantly told that to eat healthy, you have to eat like a rabbit which is false. Or exercise consists of miles upon miles of redundant cardio. They try, it sucks, they fail, they give up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 11:02 PM
4	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Lifting is very much seen as masculine. Yea sone women lift but female fitness is mostly Pilates, Yoga, Aerobics. You can’t deny that. Men seek out masculinity. Lifting. Bourbon/Scotch, Football, Poker, Cigars. Etc. Call it whatever you want. masculinity, vibe, relatability, but a lot of therapists (including many male ones) come off the same: scripted, overly clinical, and detached from how a lot of men actually operate. Most guys I know don’t respond to an hour of dissecting feelings. They res…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:34 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Pickleball doesn’t count. lol. You need a therapist who relates. Men open up to people who are like them. I’m talking more about masculinity. A man’s man. These therapists aren’t anything like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:22 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy The issue with that is most people don’t need both. Why waste your money on something you don’t need if you haven’t tried self improvement first? You ever notice how people will spend 200 bucks an hour in therapy trying to feel better… and then they find 20 dollars in their jacket pocket and go, ‘Oh my God, best day ever’? Nobody finds money on the ground and goes, ‘Eh… I think I still need to process this.’ You know what fixes a bad mood? Wins. Small wins. Fix your car, clean your house, make s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:16 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy You’re spending a lot of time trying to convince me I need therapy and can benefit. But more and more studies are showing otherwise as we’re coming to a much better understanding about mental health. Yet traditional therapy isn’t advancing with this new knowledge.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:59 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy I see therapy is really helping you lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:54 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Sounds as useless as online guitar lessons. If your life was so in order, you wouldn’t be wasting your afternoon convincing me to go to therapy. I mean if it was really helping.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:52 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy You still have to schedule it and account for the commute. I honestly have better things to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:49 PM
0	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Then find me a therapist who lifts and doesn’t look like he hangs out at a golf course or Starbucks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:31 PM
1	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Except I’m on my way to the auto parts store. Most of us post and comment when out and about. If that’s not you, Reddit just might be your problem	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:24 PM
-4	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Except gym and diet fix your mental health. Your gut is your second brain for instance which therapists do not understand	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:23 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy With a meaningful level of training, you do. Especially if you also have a job and a life. Therapy seems to resonate with Redditors because they live sedentary in the first place, doom scroll and eat a terrible diet. Fix these things and you just might find you never actually needed therapy. I can go over the science if you’d like. Therapy most of the time is like going to a chiropractor when all your back pain is actually due to weak core muscles and bad posture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:15 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy I’m not convinced. Especially knowing my problems could never be solved through therapy in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:08 PM
2	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Where do you find the time?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:07 PM
3	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Most people, men and women just need to touch grass. Therapy is just another sedentary activity adding to an already sedentary life where 73% of the population is overweight or obese. Studies have even shown that gym, physical activity and diet are more successful at treating anxiety and depression than drugs and therapy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:05 PM
6	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy I had been to many therapists when I was younger. They didn’t actually solve any problems though. That was not due to a lack of effort on my end either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:02 PM
4	Stop gaslighting men into Therapy Most people claiming “go to therapy” need to go to the fucking gym.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 08:59 PM
–	If you don’t go to clubs/bars you can’t say you want to get women/being introverted is a choice So if someone doesn’t want to spend their time in bars and clubs, they’re “chicken” or lack charisma? That’s a pretty narrow way to look at it. Some of us just don’t want that lifestyle. I barely drink, I train almost every day, and I actually care about my health and recovery. Late nights, alcohol, and that whole scene don’t exactly line up with that. That’s not insecurity, that’s discipline and priorities. What’s funny is you’re framing partying like it’s the default path to success, when most…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 07:00 PM
–	Average men don't struggle in dating I was definitely still good looking when I was chubby and wasn’t aiming for anything skinny when I was. But the difference in dating success is literally like night and day after dropping weight and building muscle. I take my fitness to pretty heavy extremes as a result. This is because the constant rejection before this lead to a whole lot of body dysmorphia. Despite knowing I’m more attractive now, I’m still picking apart flaws in the mirror. My arms and chest aren’t big enough to me (despite …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 12:31 PM
–	Average men don't struggle in dating But how many of those are with women they actually want? How many of them are banging 4’s who think they’re 6’s while trying to keep their options open for a real 6?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 11:42 AM
–	Average men don't struggle in dating The flaw in your argument is acting like “4/10 vs 6/10” is objective. Who decided that? Social media? Because what’s actually happening is men are being rated against a completely inflated standard, while women are being told they’re above average regardless. I’ve literally experienced it. Same face, same person. Just heavier. When I was fat, I got ignored by women just as overweight or worse. Now I’m lean and muscular and suddenly I’m “attractive” to all types. So it’s not just men overestimati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 11:25 AM
1	“The wall” isn’t a reflection of women’s short comings Calling the difference “negligible” is oversimplifying what’s actually happening. It’s not about suddenly having wrinkles or grey hair, it’s about how lifestyle starts compounding by the late 20s. Things like body fat distribution, muscle mass, skin quality, insulin sensitivity, and overall energy are all heavily influenced by diet, activity level, sleep, and alcohol use. By that point, you’re starting to see a clear separation between people who take care of themselves and people who don’t. And…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 03:51 PM
1	“The wall” isn’t a reflection of women’s short comings Attraction still plays the biggest role. Especially for men who do have 10-15 years of actual dating experience and not just debating Reddit hypotheticals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/04/26 03:32 PM
–	Guys are to blame for expensive dates Well even $50 to $100 is bullshit for a first meet or dates with a woman who has no intention of ever taking things farther. I’m talking more about actually dating with intent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/26 02:28 AM
1	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". It’s not my story but it’s the same judge. And when said judge was called out, she had him arrested and charged to silence him. The whole reason for the custody battle is because the mother was neglecting the child, not getting her medical care, etc. Your takes are incredibly sexist with all the blaming you do. It’s exactly why men like me eventually commit suicide which I contemplate daily from being constantly fucked by society and people like you supporting that and victim blaming. Our voices…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 04:10 PM
6	If the redpill is actually amoral, they wouldn’t be insulting women. Maybe if misandry wasn’t so mainstream and accepted, there would be no red pill in the first place. Even if you look at Reddits community guidelines, every group of people is protected from bullying, racism, sexism, gender discrimination, etc. except for straight men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 03:53 PM
1	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". It was news though https://reason.com/2019/09/18/a-grieving-father-is-standing-trial-for-criticizing-a-judge-on-facebook/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/20/michigan-man-acquitted-facebook-posts-threatening-judge-over-dead-son/	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 11:50 AM
1	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". It was news though https://reason.com/2019/09/18/a-grieving-father-is-standing-trial-for-criticizing-a-judge-on-facebook/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/20/michigan-man-acquitted-facebook-posts-threatening-judge-over-dead-son/	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 11:50 AM
1	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". It honestly doesn’t work like this. Family court isn’t DoorDash where you can swap judges because you don’t like the outcome. Proving actual bias or a legal conflict rarely ever gets approved. Most of us also can’t afford a lawyer. Our money is already tied into taking care of our children. It’s obvious you’ve ignored a lot of what I said as this stuff has already been addressed. I also told you about another man who was jailed by this very judge for calling her out after his 2 year old daughter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 11:17 AM
5	Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating? Who says they’re getting it though?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 11:02 AM
1	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". The letters were given to the judge by multiple parties. The previous charges were against my son’s mom for putting her hands on me twice while we were together, even putting me in the hospital. She was charged and convicted of domestic violence twice. I already told you this but you keep moving goal posts. The reasons for the CPS visits were due to abuse and neglect. My son reported the abuse to his school social worker on multiple occasions, showing her the bruises all over his body from his m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/26 02:54 AM
0	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". That’s irrelevant. Especially when mom is unfit but is given custody anyway. There’s no reason why my ex should even be allowed custody considering her criminal record, drug and alcohol addiction and multiple CPS cases. I even received letters of recommendation for custody change from his school social worker, probation officer and his CPS caseworker. But this is what’s called a woman’s state so the judge refused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 05:51 PM
2	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". No. They don’t. They do joint legal custody. Not physical. This is the detail the pill bots conveniently leave out. Sorry but this is like debating Chat GPT	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 04:53 PM
4	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". That’s a massive leap. You went from “fewer men pursue custody” to “men don’t care about their kids,” and just skipped over every real-world factor in between. Cost alone shuts a lot of guys out. Custody battles can run tens of thousands of dollars with no guarantee of success. Add in work schedules, legal bias (whether you want to admit it or not), and the fact that courts heavily value “status quo,” and yeah, some men make a calculated decision, not a careless one. Others just can’t afford it.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 04:39 PM
4	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". You keep saying “facts,” but you’re selectively applying them. That’s the issue. Yes, there are stats showing men commit more violent crime or certain behaviors but that doesn’t automatically justify broad generalizations about men as a whole. Just like we don’t take crime statistics and say “this defines an entire race,” because we understand context, environment, and selection bias matter. Same principle. And your point about custody actually proves mine more than yours. Saying “men are less l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 04:18 PM
4	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". I’m not leaving anything out. She was convicted twice, ordered into AA, anger management, and fined. That’s all documented. The issue isn’t “missing details,” it’s that family court doesn’t operate the way people think it does. Criminal court and family court are completely different. You can have a criminal record and still be awarded custody because family court prioritizes things like “status quo,” and long-standing assumptions about parenting roles. So yeah, something does feel off but that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 01:58 PM
8	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". You literally said “Blame incels for that.” That’s not me misquoting you. That’s you taking a broad issue like male loneliness, isolation, and lack of support and pinning it on a fringe group so you don’t have to engage with it seriously. And you keep shifting the standard depending on what side you’re arguing. When it’s men getting screwed in divorce court, now it has to be “generally unfair” with a high burden of proof. But when you say “most cheats are men,” “men are less involved,” “most abu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 01:50 PM
12	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". You’re doing exactly what you accused others of. Demanding proof on one side while hand-waving your own claims as “well known.” Saying “not knowing these stats is willful ignorance” isn’t an argument, it’s just a way to avoid actually backing anything up. And “blame incels for that” is just another deflection. You took a broad issue, male loneliness, isolation, lack of support and reduced it to a fringe group so you don’t have to engage with it seriously. That’s like blaming all women’s issues o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 01:33 PM
8	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". Bad father? You can’t get another judge. You are tied to the judge in that county. I’m not lying about any of this. She has multiple domestic violence convictions, multiple CPS visits, and the court won’t do anything. Stop this you guys can’t have it both ways shit. None of this should be a war. Men are not your enemy and women are not mine. But you’re allowing big tech corporations to shape your whole worldview. Reddit profits off gender wars, just not in the direct “they charge you to argue” w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 01:21 PM
16	The redpill only calls out men when it makes them feel superior. They wont call out men when it makes women "look superior". This whole comment is exactly the problem. It handwaves away men’s issues while casually throwing out blanket accusations about men as if that’s somehow “context.” You’re asking for proof of men getting screwed in divorce courts while simultaneously making sweeping claims that men cheat more, abuse more, and abandon their kids more… with zero proof yourself. That’s not logic, that’s bias. And the “do men even have real problems or are they just mad they don’t get sex” line is straight up dismiss…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/26 12:55 PM
2	Guys are to blame for expensive dates Those aren’t extremes. It’s literally the nature of this social media platform which is a haven for the most extreme basement dwellers on the planet next to 4Chan. None of this pill debate stuff is even normal. I’m personally only here for the entertainment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 09:16 PM
1	Guys are to blame for expensive dates It’s not wrong to call out extremes when you’re looking at this through the lens of someone who actually dates. These takes only make sense if you treat edge cases like they’re common, which they aren’t. And yeah, it is the nature of the platform. Reddit tends to attract people who are more online than offline, more observational than participatory. You’ve got a lot of people analyzing dating, theorizing about it, debating it, but not actually going out and doing it consistently. Then add in how…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 08:31 PM
0	Guys are to blame for expensive dates I didn’t go to any extremes. What I am explaining is the nature of Reddit it’s a few of these people touch any kind of grass. The best majority of these red and blue tapes are nothing short of laughable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 08:18 PM
1	Guys are to blame for expensive dates I’m not sure what’s odd about it when these posts constantly take an outlier and present it like it’s the norm. That’s the issue. Of course there are guys out there spending $200–$300 on a first date. Nobody is denying that. The problem is acting like that’s representative of how most men date, when it’s not even close. And yeah, it is a choice, but context matters. When you keep amplifying extreme examples, it subtly frames men as reckless or irresponsible as a group, when in reality most guys …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 07:56 PM
2	What do you feel like hinders you most in dating? Yeah it throws people off at first, but body weight and body fat % aren’t the same thing at all. It’s all about composition. 130 lbs at 40% body fat just means a large portion of that weight is fat and not much is lean mass (muscle, bone, etc). Someone can weigh less but look softer because they don’t have much muscle underneath. On the flip side, you at 140 and 17% have significantly more lean mass, which is why you look leaner even though you weigh more. That’s also why GLP-1 results can be mi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 04:55 PM
3	Guys are to blame for expensive dates $300 is an exaggeration just like the majority of things pushed in this echo chamber. Just another way to say men bad in typical Reddit fashion. I have been on hundreds upon hundreds of dates in my life. Never once was ever expected to spend $300 nor have I ever	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 04:36 PM
13	Guys are to blame for expensive dates We know. This is Reddit where guys are to blame for everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 02:19 PM
2	What do you feel like hinders you most in dating? It doesn’t really make it easier for me, honestly. It makes it harder considering the hot girl I thought I was on a date with is now not so hot once the clothes come off and gravity takes over due to a couple decades of fat induced stretched out skin and poor body composition since GLP’1’s also attack muscle and not just fat. 130 lbs looks a lot different at 20% body-fat than it looks at 40% Weight loss meds can help people lose weight, but they don’t fix the bigger picture. Things like muscle m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 01:56 PM
5	What do you feel like hinders you most in dating? Very much so. But again, it’s a very small pool at this age. This is exactly how Reddit debates work. Oversimplify everything, then blame men so it fits a clean narrative. You just can’t find anyone” ignores how dating actually works. I’m pretty sure I told you I already get attention from that pool. But you still try to reduce it to a gotcha because your entire understanding of dating seems to come from this sub. Men’s struggles get framed as personal failure, while everything on the other side…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 01:33 PM
2	What do you feel like hinders you most in dating? You’re oversimplifying this to the point it sounds like you’ve never actually dated in the real world. I’m at an age where being overweight, obese, or just out of shape is the norm and significantly higher than average, not the exception. So yeah, the actual pool of women I find attractive is already limited from the start. Now take that smaller group and factor in reality. Most of the attractive, put-together women in that age range are already married or in long-term relationships. That shrink…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 01:20 PM
2	What do you feel like hinders you most in dating? I don’t understand your question, considering I specifically talked about obesity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 12:52 PM
3	Men don't hold each other accountable for their misfortune Men in the real world date. Average, normal guys are in relationships every day. This fantasy that most men are just sitting around lonely and unwanted is something that lives almost entirely in online spaces like this, pushed by people who spend more time debating dating than actually participating in it. And the whole “male loneliness epidemic” gets thrown around in here like it’s some uniquely male failure, when loneliness isn’t gendered like that at all. Women report it too. Real loneliness …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 08:18 AM
5	Men don't hold each other accountable for their misfortune It’s literally on all the progressive social media pages. mEN aRe loNELy bECaUsE thEy cAnT maKe aNY bOnDS and other Feminist bullshit https://gender.stanford.edu/news/mens-loneliness-feminist-issue-men-without-men https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2025/10/03/the-male-loneliness-epidemic-isnt-a-womans-problem/ https://now.org/blog/a-new-era-of-dating-what-the-male-loneliness-epidemic-discourse-signals-about-the-future-of-heterosexual-romance/ https://www.salon.com/2025/11/17/dont-blame-women-for-mens-lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 05:27 AM
7	Men don't hold each other accountable for their misfortune No, it’s usually the cat ladies claiming this to make men seem incompetent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 05:17 AM
4	Men don't hold each other accountable for their misfortune There is no male loneliness epidemic	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 05:08 AM
8	What do you feel like hinders you most in dating? Obesity. I have no problem getting female attention. The problem is, I find the majority of my dating pool unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/26 04:31 AM
1	“Those women should have picked better” Some men like that do exist but for the most part, we just know men because we are men. Then they will double down with this man vs bear crap when statistically women are much more likely to be assaulted by their partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/26 12:54 PM
2	Most of the female talking points on this sub are wrong for Genz. Are we talking real young men or the terminally Reddit ones in subs like this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 03:20 PM
6	Most of the female talking points on this sub are wrong for Genz. That’s really not what I see in the real world. The gym has no shortage of 150lb young men with broccoli hair working out with their hot girlfriend who can probably lift heavier than he can.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 03:19 PM
14	A red-pill man and a woman on an ISOLATED ISLAND: who would be the better man? This whole thought experiment only works if you strip away reality and replace it with internet ideology. In an actual survival situation, no social safety nets, no apps, no validation loops, no Reddit echo chambers, people don’t operate like this. They revert to cooperation, interdependence, and basic biological roles because survival depends on it. The idea that someone would intentionally sabotage the only other person on the island just to negotiate sex later is pure modern, online-brain-rot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 01:13 PM
1	A red-pill man and a woman on an ISOLATED ISLAND: who would be the better man? This would never happen in the real world	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/26 01:09 PM
–	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" Funny how the ‘unpaid labor’ argument always shows up even when it doesn’t apply. He’s literally out there climbing poles risking his life to keep your lights on, she had her own income, and she cheated which caused the divorce. But we’re still supposed to pretend this is some oppressed SAHM scenario? No. That’s exactly the kind of case that makes guys question the system. Reddits gonna Reddit though because Women are Wonderful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 04:08 AM
–	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" She’s not in a $400k home because of anything she did. She also gets significant time off. She’s only in a $400k home because it belonged to her husband while he’s now in a trailer park. It would be the same outcome if she worked at Arby’s	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 03:13 AM
1	The male loneliness epidemic is self inflicted. The experiences of trans people is further proof of this. There is no male loneliness epidemic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 03:02 AM
6	“Those women should have picked better” These people are insane	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 05:33 AM
1	When women’s struggles are invisible, everything looks like an advantage If we can tell you’re with a douchebag, why can’t y’all see it? Then if we tell you, we’re either jealous or mansplaining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 02:12 AM
11	“Those women should have picked better” Then if we say something about the bad man she’s with, we’re either jealous or mansplaining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/04/26 01:20 AM
–	People need to blame women more If you think women don’t want to be involved in dating, you spend way too much time on social media. In my experiences, they can become quite obsessed after holding out for a man who checks off all her boxes. But can’t seem to understand why we leave considering she’s not matching our energy or attractiveness level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/26 08:59 PM
–	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open No, they will double and triple down about bears in woods but if they ever encountered one, they would be looking for a man to protect them from it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 11:29 PM
1	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open “You keep calling this ‘uncomfortable truth,’ but it’s just recycled internet math that doesn’t line up with real life. ‘Top 10% of men’ isn’t a stat, it’s a coping narrative. If it were real, most men wouldn’t be in relationships, and society wouldn’t function the way it does. Comparing dating to billionaires vs. homeless just shows how distorted your model is. Relationships aren’t controlled by a tiny elite. And Reddit isn’t some truth machine, it’s a collection of echo chambers that all think…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/26 04:38 AM
1	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open The vast majority of men have had at least something. The problem with Reddit is these men’s doomer worldview prevents this. You’re treating Reddit like it’s a neutral sample of reality, but it’s not. It’s an anonymous platform with niche communities that reinforce specific worldviews. That’s why everything starts to sound the same. If your beliefs only hold inside that kind of environment but don’t match what actually happens in real life, that should tell you something. If women didn’t want se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 10:53 PM
0	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open Anecdotal’ doesn’t mean ‘irrelevant,’ it just means personal. And there’s a difference between one random story and hundreds of repeated outcomes. You’re making a universal claim about women as a whole. That falls apart the second it runs into consistent real-world behavior that contradicts it. So no, my experience isn’t a scientific study, but it’s more grounded in reality than a worldview built off podcasts and algorithm-fed content. If your belief only works in theory but not in practice, tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 10:47 PM
–	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open Hundreds of women in my life is not anecdotal. But that’s always the claim whenever something goes against the words of your podcaster messiahs who profit off these pills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 08:49 PM
2	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open I’m agreeing there’s no male epidemic and why it seems easier for women when deep down, they tend to be just as lonely. I’m debunking the narratives often times used to push back like cLOsE fEMaLe frIEnDsHIps.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 08:46 PM
0	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open No, that’s women in general. I’ve observed this through multiple different social circles. Even my own mom was full of gossip growing up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 07:08 PM
1	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open I didn’t get this from TV shows. Part of it is from being a fly on the wall whenever I’m in a relationship. The other part is having a lot of female friends myself. I get flooded with gossip constantly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 06:51 PM
-4	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open The number of women who throw themselves at me tells me you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about as your worldview comes from these internet ideologies. And why can’t you respond like normal? The breaking everything up into quotes is quite annoying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 06:49 PM
1	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open I hate to break it to you but I’m 50, in about the top 15% body wise for my age. I do a lot of dating and have a lot of sex with women from their late 30’s to mid 50’s. Their libidos are through the roof. Even with Cialis, it can be hard to keep up. But these women live in the real world. Not on Reddit identifying with stupid pills	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 06:47 PM
3	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open By friendships, do you mean all the gossip and backstabbing? Women are judged relentlessly by their peers. It’s just not said to their face. But subconsciously, they still know their friends are judging them based on the label on her hand bag, the men she dates, the outfit she’s wearing, etc. Women thrive much more off of validation whether it’s from the opposite sex or same sex friends. Those deep bonds women claim to have are often times only surface deep. She will cry with her when she needs …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 05:23 PM
–	The way some people talk about male loneliness kinda of reinforces the point of why men don't really have a lot of safe spaces to be emotionally open I’d argue that women have a whole lot more romantic loneliness than they will tell you. It’s just easier to suppress these things with all the opposite sex validation they receive that most men do not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 04:49 PM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Men who have Sex with Men	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 04:41 PM
–	Just go see a therapist or psychologist. What makes you think they know how to tell me how to navigate mine? It’s like seeing a chiropractor. Only helps some people while thinking their methods are one size fits all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 10:03 AM
–	Just go see a therapist or psychologist. Most won’t even fix your problems	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 09:55 AM
–	Just go see a therapist or psychologist. Dating advice or not, therapy is very female centric and doesn’t really work for men. It would be like telling a man to see a gynecologist for his prostate. But therapists still see men as clients, using a one size fits all approach. I might even argue that therapy is bad for a lot of women too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 09:55 AM
2	Women have no choice but to be privileged in dating, at least eventually. This doesn’t really hold up in the current environment. We’re in the middle of premature aging and an obesity epidemic, so the idea that women as a whole are “the more beautiful gender” with automatic leverage just doesn’t match reality anymore. Modern lifestyles have clearly impacted baseline attractiveness across the board. Then you add dating apps, body positivity, and even things like GLP-1 use changing physiques in unnatural ways, and it’s obvious this isn’t some clean expression of biology…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/26 08:38 AM
1	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? It keeps getting used because it’s a convenient example, not because it represents most situations. You keep defaulting to it because it’s the one scenario where your conclusion is already baked in. And the irony here is you’re saying it has nothing to do with social media, while repeating a term that blew up through social media and gets recycled in the exact same way every time. It didn’t come from some universal consensus people independently arrived at. It spread because it’s catchy, accusat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 04:50 PM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You keep going back to the “dirty dishes” example because it’s the only version where your argument holds up. Nobody is defending dishes coming out dirty. If that’s happening, fix it. That’s basic. But it’s funny how every time this comes up, it magically turns into the worst-case scenario instead of what actually happens most of the time. And let’s be real for a second. “weaponized incompetence” didn’t come from some deep understanding of behavior or relationship dynamics. It’s a TikTok phrase …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 03:32 PM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You’re framing it like this is always about something being “done wrong,” but that’s exactly the point I’m pushing back on. A lot of the time it’s not actually wrong, it’s just not done the exact way she would’ve done it. There’s a difference between something genuinely not getting cleaned and something getting cleaned in a different order, with a different method, or not matching someone’s personal preference. But that line gets blurred constantly. A dish can be clean, groceries can be bought, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 02:27 PM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? Having to do them again is an exaggeration. My way cleans them. But it would be wrong according to these OCD women. I would never criticize someone else’s method. That’s the big difference between a lot of men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 02:04 PM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? I’ve never had a problem with dirty dishes from the dishwasher. Being a gym guy, I have a specific way I load my blender bottles and tumblers for instance. But I would never force that way on someone else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:59 AM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? After you just said there are two sides. Like I deserved a concussion and broken eardrum because I waited an hour to clean her drunken mess after a 14 hour workday. So that deserved being beat over the head with a cast iron skillet. I never hit her back though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:50 AM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? Nobody sent me into psychosis. I stayed long enough to raise her son and then I left her when he became an adult. He moved out right after because he couldn’t stand her either. I fulfilled my obligation. When she put her hands on me, she went to jail. Twice. Now I’m enjoying my life carefree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:47 AM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You can ask the judge who convicted her twice. Two sides to her criminal record?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:44 AM
3	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? I’m not avoiding anything. You’re trying to make accusations and use it as a got-ya. Like a man can’t enjoy being single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:44 AM
3	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? I’m not deflecting anything. After leaving a 13 year relationship with a narcissistic domestic abuser and then beating stage 3 pancreatic cancer, I choose to stay single, date casually, work on my fitness, travel and enjoy my life until I meet someone extraordinary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:42 AM
3	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? Calling me “out of touch” while saying OCD isn’t a mental disorder is wild. It’s literally classified as a mental health disorder. That’s not my opinion. That’s how it’s defined clinically. OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder) involves intrusive thoughts (obsessions) and repetitive behaviors or rigid routines (compulsions) done to relieve anxiety or feel “right.” It’s not just liking things clean or organized. it’s when that need becomes excessive, distressing, or controlling. That’s also why it’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:40 AM
1	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? I have more than a few. And the rest of what I posted was in response to your eating disorder claim when it would actually be you with the eating disorder. What you’re calling a disorder is literally how I beat a cancer with a 13% survival rate. You also accused me of eating frozen food and being lazy	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:36 AM
0	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? I won’t deal with women with mental disorders	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:35 AM
0	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You didn’t even read my reply. You just scanned really fast and looked for one thing to comment on while literally ignoring everything. Most of my friends are women and a few want me long term. But they’re also not PPD femcels. Yes I read your creepy obsessed post history.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:32 AM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You can’t negotiate with women like this. I keep them out of my life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:30 AM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? My mom is dead	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:29 AM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You’re trying to frame this like I’m obsessively tracking macros and counting calories, but I literally just said I don’t do that. I eat the same types of foods consistently because I understand what they do. Lean protein for muscle maintenance and recovery, carbs to support training and energy, and fiber for satiety so I’m not constantly hungry. That’s not obsession, that’s just knowing how food works. There’s a difference between disordered eating and structured eating. One is rigid and stress…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:29 AM
0	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? Preference shouldn’t dictate	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:18 AM
-1	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? Anecdotes don’t enforce Reddit buzzwords.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:17 AM
1	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? “If you loved her, you’d just do it” sounds nice until you realize it only goes one direction. Why is love defined as me adapting to her boomer preferences, but not her adapting to mine? Because that’s the part nobody wants to address. It’s never just “put the dish a little to the left.” It’s that mindset applied to everything. How things are cleaned, how meals are cooked, how the house is organized, how time is spent. One preference turns into a standard, and the standard turns into constant co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:15 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF The obesity epidemic says it is. And the fact that I probably wouldn’t eat 90% of what’s in your grocery cart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:12 AM
2	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? So being healthy is an eating disorder now? My doctors would tell you otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:08 AM
3	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You keep jumping to “frozen pies and chicken nuggets,” which just shows you didn’t understand anything I said about how I actually eat. My meals are structured around performance, recovery, and health. Not convenience junk. Lean protein, controlled carbs, fiber. Chicken, rice, wraps, vegetables. That’s not random, that’s deliberate. I’m consistently hitting high protein. Around ~180–190g/day which supports muscle protein synthesis, recovery, and keeping lean mass while staying relatively low bod…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 11:06 AM
-9	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You’re seriously reaching and making up fake scenarios to continue to push your fetish phrase. Because people on Reddit who align with ideology whether it’s red pill or blue pill are incapable of having their own identity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:58 AM
1	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? If she loved you, she wouldn’t dictate. The dishes are also one example. Your entire life gets micromanaged. I don’t live my life like that. Life is way too short. There’s too much of the outdoor world to explore without being held back by a neat freak.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:55 AM
5	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? There it is. Straight to “lazy” and “incompetent men” instead of actually addressing anything I said. I wouldn’t want you even cooking for me because I care too much about my body and health. That kind of blanket statement says more about your mindset than it does about reality. You’re not talking about a situation, you’re talking about men as a group, which is why everything gets filtered through that lens. All your other obsessive anti-male comments tell a similar story. Nobody said anything a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:53 AM
0	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? You didn’t really change anything, you just reworded it. You’re still starting from your preferred outcome and calling it “superior,” then working backward from there. That’s fine if both people actually agree on that outcome, but that’s exactly the part you keep glossing over. Because in reality, it’s usually not a mutual decision. One person sets the standard, then everything else gets framed as “you don’t care.” And again, you’re ignoring the bigger point. Those “preferred outcomes” don’t exi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:49 AM
5	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF That’s you. But I value my life and health a whole lot more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:44 AM
-3	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? “Superior according to who?” That’s the whole point you keep sidestepping. You’re taking your preferred outcome and presenting it as objective, then labeling anything else as “not caring.” That’s not a shared standard, that’s just your standard with a moral label attached. And not everything in a household needs to be optimized like it’s a lab experiment. Sometimes “clean enough” or “good enough” is actually the better outcome when you factor in time, effort, and not turning basic tasks into con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:42 AM
0	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? it’s not about being a slob, it’s about not instinctively following your exact system without being told. Because obviously there’s only one correct way to load a dishwasher, one correct cupboard for cups, and one approved sequence they have to be in… and if someone does it differently, that’s not just “different,” it’s a character flaw. That’s kind of the point though. You’re not describing shared responsibility, you’re describing a very specific standard that you expect someone else to automat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:27 AM
-4	Do you try to avoid men who don't have empathy for women's issues? On the flip side, I won’t date a woman who uses words like “weaponized incompetence” to control everything in the household, forcing everything to be done how she says, when she says. That’s not a relationship that’s a boss/employee dynamic. Who says you get to decide everything?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 10:07 AM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You’re all over the place. You say 80% of young men are incels, but somehow every guy who’s leaner and more developed than average “doesn’t count,” and every guy who actually gets results must be lying or dating “low quality.” That’s not reality, that’s you protecting a narrative. And no, at 5’11”, 190 lbs and ~20% body fat, you’re not “way more jacked.” That’s just being bulked with a layer of fat on top. You might look bigger in a hoodie, but you don’t have the same level of definition or visi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:58 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Calling it a “tantrum” doesn’t fix the holes in your argument, it just avoids them. If you had an actual rebuttal, you’d use it. Instead you’re defaulting to tone-policing because the logic didn’t land the way you wanted. That’s not me losing, that’s you pivoting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:43 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF You didn’t “explain logic,” you just asserted a conclusion and declared it correct. Calling attraction “prejudice” doesn’t make it so, it just shows you’re trying to force a moral framework onto something that isn’t a moral obligation. If your argument were actually sound, you’d be able to defend it instead of repeating “you lost” like that proves anything. All you did was redefine normal human behavior as wrong, then act like disagreement equals defeat. That’s not logic, that’s just you insisti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:39 AM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You keep saying “nobody cares unless you hit a certain level,” but that’s just something you’re repeating, not something you’ve demonstrated. Let’s bring this back to reality for a second. The average man isn’t lean. He’s sitting somewhere around the high teens to mid 20s body fat, with minimal muscle development. No shoulder cap, no arm separation, no visible midsection. That’s the baseline. This is not that. There’s visible shoulder roundness, arm development, and actual midsection structure. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:38 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF You didn’t “finish the argument,” you just declared yourself the winner because your actual point fell apart. That’s what people do when they can’t defend the logic anymore. They stop engaging, announce “checkmate,” and pretend performance is proof. You tried to turn attraction into a moral obligation, then acted like filtering is somehow illegitimate even though literally everyone filters. That wasn’t a winning argument, it was just an unserious one. If your best move is “go away and think abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:27 AM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You didn’t prove anything, you just moved the goalposts again. First it was “I’m invisible,” now it’s “only the top 5–10% matter.” That shift alone says everything. And no, men don’t just look like this without training. Having a decent frame isn’t the same as having developed shoulders, arms, and chest. That’s built. You’re taking a small minority and pretending it’s common to make your point work. Also, “I wouldn’t notice you on the street” isn’t meaningful. You’re a straight guy. You’re not t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:27 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF “You’ve dug yourself into a hole”? No, you’ve just redefined all attraction as prejudice and hoped nobody notices. Humans filter instantly. That’s not “profiling,” that’s basic pattern recognition. You do it, I do it, everyone does it. You’re not interviewing every single person on earth before deciding if you’re attracted to them. And let’s be real. By your definition, sexual orientation itself would be “prejudice,” since it excludes entire groups upfront. Are you really going to argue that? Wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:13 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF “Checkmate”? You just proved my point. You’re calling lack of attraction “prejudice” because you think people owe others a chance. They don’t. Attraction isn’t a charity program. By your logic, every preference is prejudice—height, weight, age, even sexual orientation. It falls apart instantly. Nobody “gets to know everyone as an individual” before deciding. You filter immediately too, you’re just pretending yours are morally superior. Is a gay person not allowed to filter out a straight person?…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:09 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Oh please, that’s not the clever “gotcha” you think it is. Saying people are free to choose who they’re attracted to is literally the definition of treating people as individuals. You’re the one trying to turn attraction into some moral checklist where everyone has to justify their preferences to you. You don’t actually care about “individuality.” You care about controlling outcomes and then dressing it up as ethics. If attraction is individual, then people get to choose. If people get to choose…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:05 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I’m stance all along has been that people are free to choose who they want or don’t want to date or sleep with without criticism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:02 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF You said that. Not me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 09:00 AM
2	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Ohhh got it. So basic human decency now comes with a mandatory attraction clause. Be kind… but also be sexually interested or you’re a bad person. Makes total sense. So I assume you’re equally “phobic” toward every person you’re not attracted to, right? Smokers, people way outside your age range, people you just don’t click with, all bigotry now? Or does this rule only apply when it’s convenient? And the “cis men are very into trans people” thing… sounds less like a universal truth and more like…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 08:42 AM
3	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Right. Fatphobic for not being attracted to obesity. lol. Obesity is a choice that nobody needs to accept. Claiming fatphobia is just a way to avoid accountability. I notice you avoided the trans comparison too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 08:29 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Nothing has changed. Safety is a big part of it but it doesn’t have to be the only part. If I won’t have sex with a morbidly obese person, is that bigotry too? Or what if it’s a trans person who identifies as the opposite gender?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 08:24 AM
3	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Sexual preference can be based on anything you want it to as long as it’s legal and consensual. Throwing out the prejudice or bigotry card is nothing short of shaming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 08:16 AM
3	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Cool story, bro. As long as you’re offended. That’s really all that matters. There’s no bigotry in “My Body My Choice”. Or do you think you have the right to control women’s vaginas?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 08:10 AM
2	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Statistics are accurate. The CDC didn’t just make this shit up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 07:58 AM
2	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF There are STD’s less likely to show up in a man even with testing. If women don’t want to touch a bi dude, they shouldn’t have to. Or are you suggesting DEI should make its way into the bedroom?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 07:57 AM
3	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Yet CDC data shows them significantly less likely to spread disease.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 01:36 AM
1	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Wikipedia lol. Changing definitions to fit a narrative doesn’t make it true. Sorta like calling an elder Millennial a Boomer because he’s in his 40’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 01:00 AM
4	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF A phobia requires a fear of someone	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:55 AM
4	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF That’s even worse considering the receiver is even more prone to STD’s. Receptive anal sex is the highest-risk activity for HIV transmission.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:54 AM
2	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Being bi as a man usually means you stick your dick in anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:40 AM
7	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Statistics still show it’s way too big of a risk regardless of what feelings say. Vaginas aren’t social justice safe spaces.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 11:39 PM
17	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Yet men having sex with men are of the highest risk	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 09:24 PM
9	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF Condoms aren’t fool proof. Plus monogamous couples eventually like to have unprotected sex. Would you knowingly have sex with a HIV positive person and trust a condom? People would just rather avoid the increased disease risk and you can’t really blame them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 09:22 PM
11	If You’re Bi and You Won’t Date Bi Guys, You’re Being Hypocritical AF You’re calling it “hypocrisy” like there isn’t a massive difference in actual risk profiles, when there very clearly is. Straight men in the U.S. have <1% HIV prevalence, while men in MSM networks (which includes a lot of bi men whether people want to admit it or not) are sitting around 10–15% in many datasets, and make up roughly 67–70% of new HIV cases despite being a tiny fraction of the population. That’s not some negligible gap. That’s an entirely different exposure environment driven by ne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 09:00 PM
–	Thirsty Men undercutting other Men that have principles, destroyed the value off Men, and we wont recover from this. Is it that 60% of men can’t get married? Or do many not want to get married? You seem to think marriage is the ultimate goal for everyone. I’ve also been with plenty of baddies while having a belly, working in construction. But if you think your belly is a problem, get rid of the belly. It’s really not hard. A lot of you RP men are just weird, Socially awkward and spend way too much time on the internet, gaming and other nerd hobbies. Then get trapped in these cringy echo chambers instead of con…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 04:18 PM
–	Thirsty Men undercutting other Men that have principles, destroyed the value off Men, and we wont recover from this. None of this math makes any sense which only shows why RP is such a plague. How are 59% of women marrying 15% of men? Must be common core. A man not caring about bodycount or single moms doesn’t make him thirsty. But he could ask Brad why he works at Target.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 03:56 PM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You’re trying to guess my body fat to make the comparison work, but that doesn’t line up with reality. There’s visible ab structure, upper body separation, and no real lower belly spillover. That’s not 20%. But more importantly, this is exactly what I’ve been saying the whole time. This is my physique. I lift, I’m leaner than most guys, and I’ve built a solid base, but I’m not maxed out yet. There’s still a clear gap between this and a fully developed, attention-grabbing physique, and that gap i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 08:13 PM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. Oops lol. Thanks for telling me	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 08:12 PM
–	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You’re trying to guess my body fat to make the comparison work, but that doesn’t line up with reality. There’s visible ab structure, upper body separation, and no real lower belly spillover. That’s not 20%. But more importantly, this is exactly what I’ve been saying the whole time. This is my physique. I lift, I’m leaner than most guys, and I’ve built a solid base, but I’m not maxed out yet. There’s still a clear gap between this and a fully developed, attention-grabbing physique, and that gap i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 08:09 PM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. Boomer biker shit” is such a lazy take it’s almost impressive. 25-year-olds were riding Japanese bikes 25+ years ago. That whole sport bike / “crotch rocket” scene was Gen X. You didn’t discover anything new. You’re acting like your generation invented it. By your own logic, that would make sport bikes “boomer bikes” too. See how dumb that sounds? You’re not describing some generational shift. You’re describing two completely different lanes of riding that have existed side by side for decades. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 07:11 PM
3	We need to stop calling it a “male loneliness epidemic” Yep. Which is why I receive a 3 day ban every time I make too much sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 05:58 PM
1	We need to stop calling it a “male loneliness epidemic” There is no epidemic. This is an internet buzzword used to push agendas. Feminists want to shame men while manosphere influencers want to pretend they’re treating something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 05:57 PM
2	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You keep moving the goalposts to protect the same conclusion: “it’s impossible unless you’re exceptional.” That’s not reality—that’s a mindset. At 5’7” I’m “completely invisible”? That’s just not true. Height matters to some, sure, but it’s one variable. Not a death sentence. Most men aren’t 6’3”. You’re acting like that’s the baseline when it’s a small percentage of men anywhere. You’re also proving my point without realizing it. You’re 5’11”, 190, and saying you’re invisible. That’s not a heig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 04:27 PM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. I’ll give you this. You’re right about one thing. Getting healthier and losing weight doesn’t automatically translate into dating success. A lot of guys do make those changes and expect everything else to just fall into place, and it doesn’t. That part is real. But where this starts to go sideways is when all of it becomes transactional like you’re doing X to get Y. That mindset leaks into everything. You end up coming across like you’re trying to earn attraction instead of just being someone wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 03:54 PM
2	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You’re not describing reality. You’re describing your own experience and then projecting it onto all men. You don’t need to be 6’3” or some 200 lb shredded bodybuilder to be attractive. I’m 5’7”, around 170, not some genetic outlier, not on steroids, and I look good in athletic fit clothes because I actually put time into building a physique. That alone already puts you ahead of most men. I get checked out constantly, complements telling me how hot I am, girls touching my muscles, etc. And that’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 03:44 PM
2	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You think there’s no 25 year old bikers? 50 year olds are also late Gen X. Way closer to being Millennials than they are Boomers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 03:14 PM
1	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. It all depends what you do online though. The people who struggle the most are the ones obsessed with gaming and social media. If you only got 2000 steps in today, you didn’t bring the real world with you. You’re barely even living in it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 03:12 PM
2	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. You’re acting like men can’t flaunt their bodies when the reality is most men just don’t have anything to flaunt. I do it all the time. And if you actually look around at the average guy, it’s pretty obvious why this narrative exists. Most men are either overweight or skinny with no muscle. That’s not society “not valuing male bodies”. That’s men not building bodies that stand out. Male physiques absolutely have sexual value when they’re developed. A lean, muscular guy with good posture and pres…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 03:07 PM
7	Forget the pills. The views expressed here represent a specific internet culture and don't reflect real life. I get what you’re saying about people ending up in these spaces because something isn’t working. That part is fair. But that’s also exactly why I question whether something like red pill is actually helping or just reinforcing the problem. If you’re struggling with dating despite having other areas of your life together, wouldn’t it make more sense to lean into real self-improvement? Things that actually build discipline, confidence, and self-worth in a sustainable way? Stuff like health, fitnes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/03/26 02:57 PM
3	Womensplaining is alive and well If “mansplaining” only applied when a man knowingly explains something to a woman with a formal degree in that exact subject, then the word would almost never apply in real life. Most everyday interactions don’t involve people announcing their credentials before speaking. What actually happens is the term gets used based on perceived tone, delivery, and assumptions, not whether someone checked a résumé beforehand. In practice, “mansplaining” is usually about condescension or unwarranted certaint…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 06:08 PM
2	Womensplaining is alive and well You’re kind of doing exactly what you’re accusing me of. Reframing what I said into something easier to argue against. I never said women shouldn’t share their perspectives or that they’re not worth hearing. What I said is that perspectives, anyone’s, can be exaggerated, biased, or incomplete. That applies across the board. Pointing that out isn’t dismissing women, it’s just holding everyone to the same standard of scrutiny. And this is where terms like “mansplaining” and “weaponized incompetenc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 05:04 PM
4	Divorce rhetoric reveals that motherhood is "worth less" I think you’re mixing two different scenarios and treating them like they’re the same thing. If a woman is a true stay-at-home mom for years raising kids full-time, managing the household, sacrificing career growth then yeah, most reasonable men understand that she contributed to building that life and deserves a fair share. That’s not really the situation most guys are complaining about when you hear “she’s taking half my money.” What a lot of men are reacting to is something different: divorce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 03:33 PM
3	Womensplaining is alive and well A perspective being “one side” doesn’t automatically make it accurate or beyond criticism. People exaggerate their own experiences all the time, especially when it reinforces a narrative. Just because something feels true doesn’t mean it’s being represented proportionally. You can absolutely have a perspective that’s exaggerated. That’s exactly what happens when normal, everyday differences get framed like systemic issues. And the household chore debate is a perfect example. A lot of these compl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 03:05 PM
3	Womensplaining is alive and well Then why has it been on for 6 months? I can use another example as well. I’m a personal trainer for instance and I’m NCAA accredited. I also have vast knowledge in nutrition and metabolism. The “mansplaining” label gets thrown around way too conveniently when the topic is something like weight loss or fitness, especially if the person speaking actually knows what they’re talking about. If someone has years of experience, understands training, metabolism, nutrition, and has results to back it up,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 02:56 PM
7	Womensplaining is alive and well Perspectives that tend to be either exaggerated, denial or tell one side of the story, One the flip side, men are accused of mansplaining for things as simple as telling her why she needs to address her check engine light that’s been on for the last 6 months. But if her car fails and she need a man to fix it, it’s no longer mansplaining.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 01:53 PM
–	What do you actually mean when you say 90-95% of men are unattractive? I’ve never known a guy named Chad who was attractive. That name peaked in like 1979. The only famous Chad I know of is Chad Kroeger and the dude has a face like a foot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 04:04 AM
0	Bluepillers : Are You Aware Of The Various Contradictions Within BP? That’s kind of the point though. You’re defining BP in a way that makes it impossible to critique. If BP is just “not RP” and there’s “nothing to follow,” then it becomes a moving target. There are no shared principles, no accountability, and no consistency. So anytime someone points out patterns (white knighting, moral posturing, selective empathy, etc.), it just gets dismissed as “that’s not BP.” But those patterns show up way too consistently across BP-leaning spaces to pretend it’s all just …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 02:44 PM
4	Reminder on what the blue pill is, since some of y'all have misconceptions This definition kind of proves the opposite. Saying “blue pill isn’t an ideology, it’s just disagreeing with red pill” sounds clean on paper, but in reality that becomes an ideology. If your entire framework is built around opposing something, you still develop patterns, beliefs, and predictable behaviors over time. It doesn’t stay neutral. It just becomes a reactive belief system. You can already see it in how people act, not just what they claim. A lot of self-identified “blue pill” men lean h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/26 01:18 PM
4	To all the men that struggle with dating. I’m broke and fit. Women still like me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 03:35 PM
2	To all the men that struggle with dating. Is it that they can’t compete? Or are they fucking up their own chances?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 03:28 PM
3	To all the men that struggle with dating. Im 5’7” and have something similar going on though	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 03:24 PM
1	Dating as an average guy is like being a solo founder trying to launch a startup against TikTok The problem is, she can’t pick the better guy due to basic supply/demand. She also needs to look the part to actually find success or else she’s only finding guys who want to get their dicks wet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 02:41 PM
1	Men don't want the average women This whole argument falls apart because you’re treating “average” like it should dictate attraction. That’s not how it works. “Average” just means common. It doesn’t mean desirable. If the average person becomes overweight and sedentary, that doesn’t magically make those traits attractive. It just means more people have them. By that logic, if the average man is out of shape and broke, women should suddenly prefer that too. But they don’t. They still prefer men who are in shape, competent, and d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/26 02:26 PM
2	“There are more good men than good women” and “a good man is just an average woman” - what is the metric for good in these statements I think you’re mixing two different meanings of “good.” Everything you listed, non-violent, doesn’t cheat, stable job, present father, that’s not really what men mean by “good,” that’s just baseline. That’s the starting point, not what sets someone apart. Most guys aren’t competing against criminals or addicts. They’re competing against other normal guys who already check those boxes. Where the difference comes in is what people value in relationships. Women tend to evaluate men more on performa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 06:45 PM
1	The women who are the loudest about not dating a “man child” are the definition of “woman child.” Women who are set in their ways, don’t compromise. And it’s a huge chunk of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 06:39 PM
2	The women who are the loudest about not dating a “man child” are the definition of “woman child.” Who decides though? That’s where the issue comes in. If one person decides the standard and the other gets judged against it, it stops being shared responsibility and starts feeling like a boss/employee dynamic. One thing I’ve discovered about women from my own mom to women I’ve lived with is chores can literally be an obsession.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 06:28 PM
3	The women who are the loudest about not dating a “man child” are the definition of “woman child.” I get what you’re saying, and I agree, being an adult is about handling responsibilities, not just income. But where a lot of guys push back is how that standard gets applied. It’s not always just “are you contributing,” it turns into “are you doing things exactly how I want them done, at the level I expect.” And if not, it gets labeled as lazy or “man child,” which isn’t really fair. There’s a difference between someone not pulling their weight and someone who just has a different standard or a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 05:52 PM
2	The amount of American women willing to have sex with a guy within 30 days is the same amount of American women willing to split a bill on the first date. I don’t think I’ve waited 30 days for a girl to have sex with me since I was 15. It usually happens on the first or second date. I’ve even had sex before a first date within 10 minutes of meeting in person for the first time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 02:37 PM
3	No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxious Lose your income and the married guy is likely to end up divorced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/26 01:10 PM
25	No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxious I get what you’re saying, but what I’m talking about isn’t influencer culture. It’s what happens when life actually knocks you off your feet. Before cancer, I had stability. I worked, I had direction, I fit into that “normal, respectable” category you’re talking about. Then I got pancreatic cancer. While I was actively fighting it, I was a “fighter,” an “inspiration.” People respected it. There was support, encouragement, people checking in. But survivorship is the part nobody talks about. Once …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 10:23 PM
25	No one hates independent women, you are just arrogant and obnoxious We are measured in dollars by society as a whole though. If you don’t have money, you’re a loser. Nobody wants to date you, not long term anyway, other men judge you, family talks behind your back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 08:50 PM
1	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth, I’m responding to how the argument is actually presented and interpreted. Even in the way you’re framing it right now, it’s still comparing “a random man” to a wild animal and concluding the animal feels safer. That inherently says something broader about how men are being perceived, whether that’s the intention or not. If the point is just “some women feel uneasy around a stranger in an isolated setting,” that’s completely reasonable. I’ve already said t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 07:25 PM
1	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. No, that’s not what I said. I said I can understand why someone might feel that way in that very specific, isolated scenario. That’s not the same as agreeing that it’s a fair or accurate generalization about men as a whole. There’s a difference between acknowledging fear and justifying the logic behind it. Because if we’re going to say “feeling safer” is enough to generalize an entire group, then that same reasoning applies everywhere and people usually don’t like where that leads. Can I automat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 06:36 PM
7	Why do so many women avoid dating inside a communities? I don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying. Getting out, being social, and putting yourself in different environments absolutely increases your chances of meeting people. No argument there. Sitting at home obviously isn’t going to help. But that’s kind of separate from the point I’m making. The way this advice gets pushed online isn’t just “go live your life and maybe you’ll meet someone.” It’s often framed like joining hobbies and social circles is the replacement for dating spaces. Like …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 05:29 PM
8	Why do so many women avoid dating inside a communities? I get what you’re saying, but that’s not really how it gets pushed online. It’s not framed as “just go broaden your horizons.” It’s constantly presented as the solution. People struggling with dating are told to get off apps and go join clubs, run groups, hobby spaces as if that’s where relationships naturally happen now. But at the same time, there’s also this strong “don’t date where you participate” mindset. So you end up with a contradiction. You’re told to go into these spaces to meet peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 04:17 PM
6	Why do so many women avoid dating inside a communities? Then perhaps people need to quit giving this advice. Because this tends to be popular social media opinion. Especially in dating subs. Get off the dating apps and join a cycling or run club or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/26 03:57 PM
1	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. I don’t think anyone is saying women shouldn’t feel cautious in a vulnerable situation. Being alone in the woods with a stranger, man or woman is already a high-uncertainty scenario, so some level of alertness makes sense. Where people push back is when that caution gets framed in a way that singles out men broadly, instead of focusing on the situation itself. Because statistically, yes. most violence against women is committed by men, but it’s overwhelmingly from men they already know, not rand…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/26 12:33 AM
2	High value men mostly end up with high value women Lots of hot women and big money men in a place like Detroit though. And people live boujee at a fraction of the cost. Even Florida is full of hot women and it’s significantly cheaper than California or the west coast in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 06:52 PM
5	High value men mostly end up with high value women First, the timeline point isn’t as solid as he’s making it sound. Yes, the Pick-Up Artist spaces were active earlier online in the late 90s and early 2000s, but a lot of the language he’s listing either predates PUA, evolved outside of it, or was popularized later by the Red Pill community ecosystem itself. And if we’re actually talking timeline, you can’t ignore Leykis 101 from radio host Tom Leykis. That was already pushing a lot of the same ideas in the 90s. Don’t overspend on women, maintain…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 05:16 PM
4	High value men mostly end up with high value women You’re arguing against the strict “market analogy,” and I actually agree with you there. Relationships are way too complex to be reduced to supply-and-demand like an economics chart. But that’s not the same as saying the idea of “value” in dating is something only Red Pill spaces invented or uniquely rely on. When I said “every side talks about it,” I don’t mean everyone is consciously using market models. I mean people across the board still evaluate, filter, and select partners based on traits…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 04:16 PM
4	High value men mostly end up with high value women That’s not really accurate. It’s just a simplified timeline that gets repeated a lot. PUA spaces and Red Pill spaces overlap, but they did not originate as the same thing or with the same focus. PUA was primarily about tactics: how to approach women, build attraction, and increase short-term dating success. That’s where you saw routines, “game,” and early attempts to rank attractiveness or desirability in a very surface-level way. Red Pill, on the other hand, evolved into more of a broader frame…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 04:12 PM
8	High value men mostly end up with high value women The whole “top 10% income = high value man” argument falls apart the second you apply real-world context. First, “top 10%” in the U.S. starts around $170k–$180k individual income. But that number is meaningless without location. In a place like Los Angeles or much of Southern California, that income gets eaten alive by cost of living, especially housing, taxes, and insurance. Median home prices are pushing $800k–$1M+, and rent is often 2–3x higher than in Midwest cities. Meanwhile, in Metro Detr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 03:31 PM
3	High value men mostly end up with high value women You didn’t but that seems to be the vibe in this sub. I personally don’t understand the PPD obsession is with hot rich people though. And this goes for all sides. Could it be because this generation of young people dating grew up on reality television which isn’t even rooted in reality?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 03:04 PM
–	High value men mostly end up with high value women This idea that red pill invented “high value men” is already off. Every side talks about it. The difference is just how it’s used sometimes to explain dating, other times to shame men who aren’t making enough money. But the bigger problem is the fantasy that gets pushed alongside it. There’s this narrative that if a man cracks the top 10% in income, he suddenly unlocks the entire dating pool. Like he can just pick any woman he wants and lock her down long term regardless of background, lifestyle…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 02:51 PM
8	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. If you have to invent my position to respond to it, you don’t really have a point. I didn’t say that at all. You just reframed it into something easier to attack. That’s kind of what happens in these echo chambers. People respond to what they pretend you said instead of what actually was.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 01:55 PM
7	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. That’s not an argument, it’s a caricature. Nobody said ‘treat women however we want.’ You just replaced what I said with something easier to mock. That kind of oversimplification is exactly the point I was making, turning the other side into a cartoon instead of engaging with what’s actually being said. People who are fulfilled in real life don’t spend their time in online echo chambers taking shots at entire groups. That behavior kind of contradicts the ‘happily married’ claim. And who in the f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 01:44 PM
1	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. So by your logic, as long as a group can point to “lived experience” or statistics, it’s fair to generalize the entire group? Because that standard gets real uncomfortable real fast. You wouldn’t accept someone saying they’re more afraid of a random Black man because of crime statistics. You’d immediately recognize that as unfair generalization, even if they tried to dress it up as “just their experience.” Same thing if someone said they trust women less around kids because women commit a large …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 07:05 AM
1	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. That’s the framing now, but that’s not how it was actually used when it went viral. It wasn’t just “which is scarier in a vacuum.” It turned into a broader claim about men as a group being more dangerous than a wild animal. That’s why it blew up the way it did. Because it stops being about a hypothetical and starts being a statement about men in general. And saying “most men would choose the bear” doesn’t really land the way you think it does. Men understand that a bear is dangerous but it’s a p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 06:21 AM
2	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. That’s actually a much more reasonable way to frame it and it kind of proves the point people were pushing back on. Nobody is arguing that women should feel totally comfortable around a random man in an isolated environment. Of course there’s going to be caution there. Men feel that too in certain situations, it’s just called basic risk awareness. But notice what you did there: you immediately narrowed it from “man” to “random man I don’t know.” That’s a huge distinction. Because the original ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/26 03:17 AM
4	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. It’s been mainstream for about a decade now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 08:59 PM
9	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. You’re doing two things here. Mixing valid points with exaggerations, and then dismissing everything on the other side as “looney toons.” On the first part: yeah, a lot of women have experienced inappropriate attention at a young age. That’s real, and nobody reasonable is denying that. But jumping from that to “therefore choosing a bear over a man is rational” is where it becomes an overreach. You’re taking a serious issue and stretching it into a blanket conclusion about all men. I got a blowjo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 04:18 PM
10	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. You’re acting like one side’s generalizations are automatically grounded in reality and the other side’s are inherently invalid, and that’s the exact bias I’m talking about. Plenty of men’s views are based on lived experience too. Dating, rejection patterns, app dynamics, relationship outcomes. Not just “things they heard online.” Writing that off as internet ideology while validating women’s experiences as truth is a double standard. And the “women choose the bear because of lived experience” p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 03:17 PM
12	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. When people say certain generalizations are “institutionally supported,” what they’re really pointing to is a broader cultural and ideological tilt. Not some coordinated effort, but a pattern in how ideas get framed and reinforced. A lot of modern institutions: media, academia, corporate messaging, tend to operate within a worldview that focuses on power dynamics, inequality, and historical imbalances. Within that lens, women are often framed as a protected or disadvantaged group, while men are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 05:41 AM
50	RP men are not viewing women’s experiences on par with their own. This is one of those posts that criticizes generalization while doing the exact same thing. You’re saying men in RP spaces reduce women to simple boxes but then you reduce those men to “they’re threatened,” “they want control,” and “they don’t understand women.” That’s not deeper thinking, it’s just flipping the target. A big piece that gets ignored is that a lot of the women being discussed are doing the exact same thing to men. When you have trends like “man vs bear,” or constant messaging tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/26 05:15 AM
1	If women were physically stronger, we'd be seeing a lot more cases of female on male sexual assault. And many do. But in my 50 years in life, nobody has even threatened me with a weapon. But at the some time, the only time an assault ever landed me in the hospital, it was at the hands of a woman who knew I don’t hit women even in self defense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 07:59 PM
1	Do you think the avarage woman deserves to find her good forever partner? I think part of why I’m pushing on this is the environment these conversations happen in. Reddit tends to skew toward people who are more socially isolated or have struggled in dating, so the default mindset becomes “nobody deserves anything they can’t get.” Over time that flattens expectations down to zero so no one has to feel like they’re falling short. If you look at it through the pill lens, it actually lines up pretty clearly. Blue pill leans idealistic. Good people should get good outcome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 06:14 PM
1	Do you think the avarage woman deserves to find her good forever partner? You’re treating any use of “should” as if it automatically means “guaranteed,” and that’s where we’re talking past each other. Saying something should happen in a general sense isn’t the same as claiming there’s a system enforcing it. It’s just describing what outcomes tend to align with certain inputs. We already do this everywhere else: people who take care of their health should have better outcomes, people who work hard should have better career prospects. None of that is guaranteed, but it’…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 05:55 PM
1	Do you think the avarage woman deserves to find her good forever partner? That would be true if I was arguing for a guaranteed outcome, but I’m not. There’s a difference between expecting life to deliver you a partner and believing there should be some level of reciprocity in how people pair up. Saying a decent, stable person should have a fair shot at a good relationship isn’t the same as believing there’s a “fairness system” handing them one. It’s just acknowledging that dating isn’t completely random either. We already accept patterns like people generally ending u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 05:39 PM
0	Do you think the avarage woman deserves to find her good forever partner? There’s a difference between saying nobody is entitled to a relationship and acting like it’s unreasonable for people to expect one. No one is owed a specific person, but saying “you don’t deserve anyone” just strips all meaning out of the word deserve entirely. If someone is stable, treats others well, and puts in effort, it’s not entitlement to believe they should have a fair shot at a good partner, it’s basic reciprocity. The constant fallback to “you’re not entitled to anything” doesn’t make…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 05:35 PM
0	Do you think the avarage woman deserves to find her good forever partner? Deserve” and “entitlement” aren’t the same thing: deserve is a personal or moral belief about the kind of treatment or partner you should have based on your values (like wanting respect, honesty, and effort), while entitlement is the expectation that you are owed a specific outcome regardless of whether others freely choose you; the moment “I deserve this” turns into “I should automatically get this,” it stops being a standard and becomes entitlement, because relationships aren’t assigned by fai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 05:20 PM
0	Do you think the avarage woman deserves to find her good forever partner? People deserve whatever they want. People in these echo chambers seem to want to drag everyone down with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 05:11 PM
1	Are men lonelier? People keep reducing loneliness to ‘just make more friends’ or ‘get a relationship’ like that solves it. That’s not how it works. I’ve got friends. I don’t struggle getting attention from women either. That’s not the issue. I went through pancreatic cancer, whipple surgery and a lot of chemo. On paper, I’m ‘fine.’ In reality, it’s permanent digestive issues, constant monitoring, and living in a completely different body than I used to. There’s also a level of mourning your old life that people d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:49 PM
1	Are men lonelier? I have lots of friends. I’m still lonely as fuck. Loneliness isn’t always about how many people are around you. I keep myself busy all day but eventually have to face it. Im so sick of people, especially women saying men are only lonely because they lack friendships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/26 03:53 AM
–	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store You’re framing this like it’s a neutral decision, but it’s not. Buying shoes and dating aren’t comparable. If you don’t find pink heels, nothing happens. You lose nothing, you just wait. In dating, time is part of the equation whether you want to acknowledge it or not. It for most women, all it takes is a viral TikTok to want those pink heels like everyone who went completely apeshit over those Stanley cups a couple years ago that were previously just sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Or how…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 07:55 AM
–	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store That analogy actually highlights the issue more than it defends it. It’s not that the store doesn’t have pink heels, it’s that after being exposed to endless curated options online, your standards become so narrow that normal, realistic options don’t even register anymore. So you walk out thinking “nothing was good enough,” when in reality there were plenty of solid options. You’ve just trained yourself to only recognize a very specific, idealized version. That’s what the internet and apps do. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 07:34 AM
1	[Debate] The dating market framing itself is part of the problem, for both men and women That’s not an argument, that’s just you being dismissive because you don’t have a response. You tried the “you’re lazy,” “you don’t approach,” and “just try harder” angles already, and none of that actually addressed what I said. So now it’s just “you have a losing attitude.” That’s not engaging, that’s deflecting. Nothing I said implies I’m struggling. I’m doing fine. This isn’t even about me. The point was about how the environment has changed, not my personal situation. This is coming from so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 05:47 AM
1	[Debate] The dating market framing itself is part of the problem, for both men and women You’re not actually arguing the point. You’re just trying to pivot into personal attacks. Nitpicking “30% vs 40%” doesn’t change anything. It’s still the most common way people meet, which means the landscape objectively shifted. Focusing on the exact number is just a way to dodge that. It’s 30-40% depending on the study. And this whole “you must not approach women” angle is just an assumption you made up to avoid engaging with what I said. Acknowledging that the environment changed isn’t the sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 05:35 AM
2	[Debate] The dating market framing itself is part of the problem, for both men and women This is honestly an outdated take. “Just go approach women” ignores how much the environment has changed. Yes, bars exist, but people don’t use them the same way anymore. When 30–40% of couples are meeting online, that’s not “people being lazy,” that’s a complete shift in where dating actually happens. And your 10% number is just flat out wrong. That might’ve been true years ago, but it hasn’t been for a long time. Saying apps just made people lazy is also missing the point. They didn’t just red…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 05:22 AM
2	[Debate] The dating market framing itself is part of the problem, for both men and women You mean like we already did for decades before apps and social media rewired everything? This idea that men just suddenly became too scared to approach is lazy. The bigger shift is that the environments where people naturally met have been hollowed out. There’s actual data on this. Around 40%+ of couples now meet online, which is a massive jump from basically nothing 20–25 years ago. At the same time, fewer people are going out socially—bar attendance, clubbing, and even general in-person socia…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 04:21 AM
4	[Debate] The dating market framing itself is part of the problem, for both men and women This entire thing could be solved if we could abolish the dating app industry which is primarily owned by a single company.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/26 12:38 AM
3	The majority of men don’t have the privilege of not caring about sex. This is one of the most backwards, insecurity-driven takes I’ve seen in a while. You’ve built an entire worldview where a man’s worth is measured by how easily he gets sex, and then used that to justify why men should sleep with as many women as possible. That’s not insight. That’s just validation seeking with extra steps. You’re also completely flipping cause and effect. Men who are attractive, confident, and socially successful tend to have more options. That doesn’t mean racking up bodies cre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 07:14 PM
–	Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be. What’s really driving a lot of these takes isn’t just ‘accepting reality,’ it’s coping and validation. Saying ‘life isn’t fair’ sounds like insight, but it often functions as a psychological shortcut. It lets people resolve frustration or repeated negative outcomes without having to actually examine why those patterns keep happening. Instead of asking what’s going wrong or what could be adjusted, the answer becomes ‘that’s just how it is,’ and the conversation ends there. It also protects self-i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 02:15 PM
–	Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be. These posts always come off less like insight and more like a way to feel intellectually above everyone else. Nobody thinks dating is some perfectly balanced system where everyone gets equal outcomes. What people are actually pointing out is that the same behaviors get framed completely differently depending on who’s doing them. When women describe their preferences, it’s ‘biology’ and ‘reality.’ When men point out patterns, it’s ‘entitlement’ or ‘cope.’ And if we’re being honest, dating doesn’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 01:51 PM
–	Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be. A lot of us do nothing and get results though. Here’s what a lot of women seem to miss. A lot of men are pursuing you based on being thirsty, desperate or just unable to be alone. Then there’s people like me. I want a woman but don’t need a woman. I don’t go out persuing it unless I’m trying to get laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 12:57 PM
1	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" So now it’s not a diagnosis, just a suggestion that anyone who disagrees should see a specialist? That’s not an argument. it’s just pathologizing disagreement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 04:21 PM
5	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" Of course. Or so can they. They can do anything they want to. None of this makes you superior. Now what if the script is flipped? What if she would be repulsed by the sexual things I’ve done? Things like threesomes, orgies, fisting, edge play like fire play, and a massive bodycount. By your own logic and mental diagnoses, she doesn’t have any right to know anything about my past either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:49 PM
2	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" Even if that term applies in some cases, you don’t get to diagnose strangers in a debate and call it a rebuttal. People are still allowed to decide what they’re okay with and leave if it doesn’t align. Calling it a mental illness doesn’t make it a rebuttal. Even if a label exists, it doesn’t mean every situation fits it, or that someone isn’t allowed to make decisions based on their own standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:44 PM
7	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" I’ll call it accountability deflection syndrome. Rename it so you don’t have to address it. Being a woman doesn’t make you superior. Anyone can ask you anything. Free country.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:34 PM
3	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" Proper terminology’ seems to be doing the same job as ‘retroactive jealousy’ Making a label sound like a rebuttal. This is exactly why I wouldn’t go to therapy. I don’t think I could make it through these terms with a straight face. Gotta love therapy language. Turn a normal reaction into a label and call it a day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:27 PM
7	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" You keep reducing everything to “kinky sex acts” because it’s easier to argue against. I never said women owe anyone anything, and I never framed this as some kind of trade. That’s you inserting that, not me. My point is simple: consistency and autonomy go both ways. If you say women don’t owe sexual openness, fine. But then men don’t owe commitment, chivalry, romance, or long-term investment either. That’s not a “trade,” it’s the same principle applied evenly. And yeah—both people can leave at …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:22 PM
5	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" Even better. So you know labeling something doesn’t actually refute it, right? Having a psychology degree and still defaulting to buzzwords instead of engaging the point is… not the flex you think it is	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:11 PM
8	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" You’re selectively quoting and then reframing what I said. I never said women owe men specific sex acts. I literally said the opposite. people don’t owe each other anything. Your entire argument is “women don’t owe men X,” which is fine. But the second I point out that men don’t owe women commitment, chivalry, romance, emotional labor, etc., suddenly it’s a “strawman.” It’s not. It’s the same principle applied both ways. And no, this isn’t about “kinky sex acts.” You’re narrowing it down to make…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:08 PM
–	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" “Retroactive jealousy” is a convenient little buzzword you just discovered in therapy. Super catchy… also really fucking hilarious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:02 PM
–	Women don't owe men "sexual equality" Nobody is arguing that women “owe” men specific sex acts. That’s a strawman. But the part that keeps getting ignored is that men don’t owe women anything either. Not just commitment, but also the extras that usually come with it: chivalry, romance, protection, provision, fixing things around the house, planning dates, emotional labor, all of it. You don’t get to say “I don’t owe you sexual enthusiasm” while still expecting the full boyfriend/husband experience in return. It goes both ways. And w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 02:53 PM
1	Men are just as picky as women. They just pretend their type of woman is the norm. You literally live inside of an echo chamber. You’re like ChatGPT with a heartbeat. All these takes you have are nothing more than gender war narrative. Looks are subjective and people are attracted to very diverse things. You’re also assuming that all very attractive women either have a lot of money or are looking for a lot of money. Even in poor communities, you very attractive women dating and married to men of similar incomes, men without jobs, etc. I’ve dated a few dimes in my day, broke as…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 03:18 AM
1	Men are just as picky as women. They just pretend their type of woman is the norm. You’re projecting dating app behavior onto men and acting like it’s universal reality. In real life, most couples are looksmatched. Men don’t just chase the “top %” and then settle out of desperation. Most are genuinely attracted to women around their own level and form relationships there all the time. The fact that men will also sleep with a wider range doesn’t erase that. It just means sexual standards and relationship standards aren’t identical. You’re forcing everything into “top tier vs de…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/26 12:23 AM
9	The hate on single moms seems to have stopped now. That’s almost never the case here. And a lot of times, just stating why you have preferences makes you an asshole. I have to argue my preferences here pretty regularly. And almost always, I’m accused of being shallow and wanting some hot 20 year old who I can manipulate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 06:58 PM
17	The hate on single moms seems to have stopped now. I think the reason you hear about it less is because people eventually realized something simple: men are allowed to have dating preferences too. When women say they don’t want to date unemployed men, short men, men who live with roommates, men with kids, or men who can’t provide the lifestyle they want, nobody frames that as “hate.” It’s just called standards. But when men say they’d prefer not to date a single mother because of the added responsibilities and complications that come with steppi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 05:35 PM
11	Men are smarter than women...only until we talk about men manipulating women and taking responsibility That’s not really the point though. The issue isn’t whether I personally feel targeted. The issue is that you made a broad claim about “men” and then built an argument around that claim. Once you generalize about a group, people in that group questioning the premise is completely fair. “If it doesn’t apply to you, just move on” is basically a way to shield a generalization from criticism. By that logic, anyone could make sweeping claims about any group and then dismiss pushback by saying “well i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 01:30 PM
20	Men are smarter than women...only until we talk about men manipulating women and taking responsibility The problem with this post is that it builds its entire argument on a premise that isn’t actually representative of what most people say. It starts with the claim that “men claim to be superior to women” and then constructs a logical trap around that idea. But most men don’t go around claiming men are universally smarter, more honest, or more logical than women as a blanket rule. That’s a caricature of an extreme position. Once you start with a strawman like that, it’s easy to construct a clever…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 01:03 PM
1	Male obsession of being "hookup worthy" yet saying only the hottest can get hookups But shouldn’t a man who is less “awesome” be able to attract less awesome women? In these gender war debates, it tends to be assumed that all women are very attractive when the vast majority are not. That’s how women are talked about anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 12:14 PM
1	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. That I prefer someone physically fit like me? That doesn’t mean you have to be 18-21. To be honest, I couldn’t deal with the headache of the immaturity. Plus I want someone I can grow old with. This is exactly why I tell people here to touch grass. Not only might it show you the importance of physical activity and exactly what I’m talking about, but it will take you away from these stupid gender war narratives and the propaganda you consume and regurgitate. It’s quite obvious you’re not actually…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 11:23 AM
1	Men are just as picky as women. They just pretend their type of woman is the norm. Yes it would	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 07:07 AM
21	Men are just as picky as women. They just pretend their type of woman is the norm. That argument actually skips over the biggest filter in the entire process: who gets matched in the first place. Men can swipe right on 60–80% of profiles, but none of that matters unless the woman also swipes right. The overwhelming majority of men never even reach the messaging stage because they’re filtered out before a match happens. Most of the large dating-app datasets show the same pattern: women swipe right on a very small percentage of men compared to how often men swipe right on women.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 02:52 AM
1	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. These takes are completely insane. I’m not attracted to 18-21 year olds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/26 12:04 AM
9	Men are just as picky as women. They just pretend their type of woman is the norm. You’re kind of contradicting your own argument here. Earlier you were arguing that men are repulsed by most women, and now you’re arguing men will sleep with almost anyone just to “get their dicks wet.” Those two claims can’t both be true at the same time. The whole reason swipe patterns look the way they do is because men generally have a broader attraction range. That doesn’t mean men only want the “top 20%” of women. It means men are more likely to find a wider range of women attractive enoug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:51 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. If men were brooding in resentment toward the women they’re with, they wouldn’t spend decades marrying them, raising kids with them, and sacrificing for their families.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:46 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. By that logic every woman who marries a man who isn’t a billionaire model is ‘settling’ too, but somehow that narrative only gets applied to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:26 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. That claim doesn’t even pass the most basic reality check. If only 1% of women were attractive enough for a relationship, then almost no women would ever get married or end up in long-term relationships. Yet the majority of women do. Men date, cohabitate with, marry, and have children with women across the entire normal range of appearances every day. So the “1%” number is obviously not real. it’s just rhetorical exaggeration to push your narrative. You’re also still redefining terms to force yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 07:53 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. You’re redefining words in a way that makes your conclusion automatic. You’ve basically decided that casual attraction = repulsion, lifestyle compatibility = hatred, and now obesity = a natural form. If you redefine every term like that, then of course you can make any male behavior sound sinister. But that’s not how human attraction actually works. People regularly distinguish between casual attraction and long-term compatibility. Women do this too. Plenty of women hook up with men they would n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 07:42 PM
1	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. You’re still forcing conclusions that don’t logically follow. First, pointing out that some people misrepresent themselves on dating apps isn’t the same thing as saying “men find the average woman repulsive.” If someone uses angles, filters, old photos, or shapewear that significantly changes how their body appears, that’s a form of catfishing. People of both sexes complain about that constantly. Being frustrated with misrepresentation doesn’t mean someone is “repulsed by women.” Second, you’re …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 07:30 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. You’re inventing a narrative that doesn’t match reality. First, you keep ignoring the catfishing point. If someone uses angles, old photos, filters, or shapewear to hide a large stomach or body composition that looks very different once the clothes come off, that’s misrepresentation. People complain about that constantly with dating apps. Showing up looking significantly different than your profile isn’t the same thing as knowingly pursuing someone you’re not attracted to. Second, your claim tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 07:13 PM
0	It’s very important that men fight against paying on the first date That’s not how most dates go. Now you’re just being cheap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 07:08 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. You’re arguing men are repulsed by most women in a world where the average woman can open a dating app and instantly get dozens of likes. That’s not repulsion. that’s the opposite. If men are repulsed by most women, why do average women report being overwhelmed with matches and messages on dating apps while average men struggle to get any?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 07:06 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. You’re doing something interesting here. You’re framing male attraction as hostility. A man saying he prefers women who are physically fit suddenly becomes “women need to protect themselves.” But women openly say they prefer men who are tall, higher income, confident, socially dominant, etc. every day. Nobody interprets that as hatred of men. It’s just called having preferences. Attraction isn’t a charity program. Nobody is obligated to find anyone attractive. And the irony is you’re calling me …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 06:51 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. You’re doing the classic Reddit move of turning a structural discussion into a moral lecture about one person. Nobody said I’m a victim. I said the modern dating market is skewed, which is pretty obvious to anyone paying attention. Even the guy earlier pointed out that a straight man can flip his profile to “looking for men” and instantly receive more attention than he ever would from women. That alone tells you there’s a supply/demand imbalance. But instead of addressing that, you pivoted to “y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 06:44 PM
1	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Having some “pudge” is in fact being fat. Obesity has just got so out of hand in western society that what’s medically fat is seen as normal. This could be solved by skipping the McDonalds and Starbucks line for a restaurant like Beyond Juicery and going to the gym. My lifestyle doesn’t even match with what you only see as “pudge” pudge /pəj/ Pudge refers to a short, thickset person or animal, or a soft, rounded amount of excess body fat. It is an informal term, often used to describe someone ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 06:31 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. I never said I was. I was only explaining how delusional most women are while choosing to live sedentary and out of shape.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 06:25 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. It’s called shapewear. And where did I call myself a victim? The point is, nobody wants you when you’re out of shape, then when you get into shape, the bar easily falls to the floor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 06:24 PM
1	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. I have 15% body fat and a good body. I also have blue eyes and an attractive face. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be flooded with attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 06:22 PM
3	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Pumping & dumping happens after she misrepresented herself in her photos to get the date. And this isn’t always even noticeable until the clothes come off. Other studies exist here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11357504/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39203715/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Meanwhile only 26% of Americans are normal weight according to the BMI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage 40% of women are obese according to BMI https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databrie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 06:09 PM
1	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Only because you live in this echo chamber called PPD where every man wants a woman who is 25. There’s nothing bitter or vindictive about wanting someone close to my same level of attractiveness and physical shape. I wanted the same thing, 5 years ago when I was fat. A woman similar to myself at the time. I didn’t put all this time, money and effort into my body to end up with a woman who sees me as eye candy but can’t put in matching effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:56 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. This went on through my mid 30’s until I settled down for over a decade. I entered the dating market again at 44. Everything was different because of apps and social media. Nothing was different about me besides being a little older. And I was still interested in women my own age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:39 PM
-2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Medically, they are. And who said anything about mistreating? Obviously this will be unpopular on Reddit because most of you are sedentary and out of shape. You think this is normal life. But it’s exactly why Europeans laugh at us as a country.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:35 PM
64	Men are just as picky as women. They just pretend their type of woman is the norm. You’re building a picture of men that doesn’t really match how most men actually behave in the dating market. Most men absolutely can have a type, but the key difference is that men tend to have a much wider attraction range. Having preferences isn’t the same thing as only wanting the top slice of women. When people say men “can’t afford to have a type,” what they usually mean is that men generally don’t filter out 80% of the opposite sex the way women statistically tend to on dating apps. A guy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:33 PM
1	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Guys as depicted in revenge of the nerds was pretty rare back then. It was a fictional movie. Not a documentary. Back then, every average Joe could find a girlfriend very easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:25 PM
-4	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Normal weight obese is a real medical condition. It comes from not lifting weights or eating adequate protein. There is nothing skewed about that. A BMI of 22 looks a lot different at 20% body fat than it looks at 40% body fat. Any body-fat percentage of 32 or above for women is medically obese regardless of what the scale says.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:22 PM
2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. I grew up before the internet too. I didn’t have to workout and could work a $7 an hour service industry job in the 90’s. I never stayed single. If we broke up, I had a new girlfriend in a week. Hell. Even when a girl I dated for 5 years until 2002 broke up with me. I had a new girlfriend in only 5 hours from a cold approach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:13 PM
0	It’s very important that men fight against paying on the first date Average meals now are $20 each minimum most places. Now add appetizer, drinks and tip.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:08 PM
-2	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. Did you even read what I said? Obviously on easy mode, I wouldn’t be messing with fat girls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 05:03 PM
-3	"The common denominator is you." No. There are multiple common denominators like being a man trying to date a woman in modern times. What does adapting require in a world where standards are through the roof? If we woke up tomorrow and dating apps and social media in general was no longer a thing, we would see the dynamics completely change. Even as an attractive man who is physically fit and does get dates and women interested in me. I’m still playing the game on hard mode. This is as a man who is above average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 04:08 PM
1	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store These aren’t really married people topics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 03:40 PM
6	It’s very important that men fight against paying on the first date I don’t know what world you live in but the shit is getting expensive now. It’s getting to the point now where it costs $100+ for a simple date. I watched a news story a while back that showed men increasing going into credit card debt, trying to survive in today’s dating market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 03:38 PM
6	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store If you didn’t feel this way, you never would have been lured into this sub or ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 12:16 PM
7	Men are in a desert and women are in swamp is misandry. What you’re describing is basically just a softer way of saying the same thing people mean when they talk about the 80/20 dynamic. You’re saying the top men are “greyed out” and not part of your dating pool, but you also say that within the pool that’s left you still find most men unattractive. Functionally, that leads to the exact same outcome: a very small percentage of men are considered acceptable. The reason people bring this up isn’t to complain that women aren’t attracted to everyone. Nob…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:59 AM
12	Men are in a desert and women are in swamp is misandry. Considering the average woman has a body like Shrek, maybe she is in a swamp.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:36 AM
3	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about What you consider high effort is often times rooted in desperation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:31 AM
0	Men created the “high maintenance woman” they complain about I have no money. It hasn’t stopped me from quite a few pump & dumps	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 08:28 AM
–	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store Then why are you even here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 07:43 AM
5	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store The internet made you feel this way. You’re a victim of your own algorithms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 02:29 AM
7	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store The solution is to get off of social media and back to reality. Date the people you would have dated before influencers and dating apps raised your standards way above your own leagues. Without big tech influence, most women would be completely happy with the men they are rejecting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/26 02:28 AM
3	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store You’re misunderstanding the point I’m making. I’m not saying every bigger woman or every man behaves the same way. I’m talking about a pattern that shows up constantly in dating discussions: people repeatedly complaining that the type of partner they want keeps treating them poorly or not committing. If someone genuinely wants to wait indefinitely for the exact person they want and they’re content with that, then sure, that’s their choice. But that’s usually not what the complaints are about. Th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 08:42 PM
1	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store Chicken isn’t unhealthy either. But most choose to deep fry it to make it that way. That’s why a grilled chicken wrap is healthy and a Popeyes chicken sandwich will kill you. When most people eat shell fish, it’s butter drenched.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 08:03 PM
7	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store What they’re consistently complaining about is men constantly fucking them over. Ghosting them after sex, etc. A lot of attractive men see these women as an easy lay. Others still go through with sex after she misrepresented her body on the dating app. Either hid her fat through camera angles, or she only looks good with clothes on. So the analogy here is showing up at a 5 star restaurant with a check that’s going to bounce.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 07:34 PM
9	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store What part of that is misogyny exactly? The point I’m making isn’t “women bad.” The point is that unrealistic standards exist in modern dating and they get applied unevenly. If someone expects a partner who is fit, disciplined, financially stable, and put together, it’s not unreasonable to ask whether they bring those same qualities themselves. The food analogy was just a way of illustrating expectations versus reality. Wanting filet mignon is fine, but if your budget is Applebee’s then you eithe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 07:28 PM
16	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store It needs to be in your budget though. A lot of these women want filet mignon on a Applebees budget. And this includes their dating preferences. It’s absolutely crazy to me how there is a loneliness epidemic right in the middle of an obesity epidemic. Meanwhile as someone who is fit, muscular, healthy and eats a lot of chicken and cheaper fish because it’s much more protein dense than lobster, these fat girls sure love to chase me while not giving their equally gelatinous male counterparts the ti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 05:34 PM
10	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store You’re missing the point of the analogy. I’m not arguing lobster is unhealthy. I’m saying it’s a luxury food, not a practical staple for most people. Chicken is cheap, versatile, and accessible almost everywhere. Lobster might be cheaper in some coastal places, but for most people it’s still treated like a special occasion meal. The same goes for things like wagyu beef or filet mignon. Technically healthy sources of protein, but they’re expensive and not something people eat daily. Should I use …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 04:28 PM
9	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store Lobster might be healthy, but it’s completely unnecessary unless you’re rolling in extra money. Most people who eat lobster also saturate it in butter anyway. I can use chicken, rice and veggies however in various dishes like stirfry, wraps, salads, fajitas, kabob and shawarma and eat my high protein bodybuilder diet for $60 to $80 a week.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 04:03 PM
53	Dating for Women is Not Like Looking for Clean Water in a Swamp; Rather, it is Like Looking for Healthy Food in a Grocery Store The grocery store analogy actually proves the opposite point to me. It’s not that healthy options are hidden and junk food is everywhere. The healthy option is sitting right there in plain sight. Chicken, rice, and vegetables. The problem is that chicken isn’t glamorous. It doesn’t feel special the way lobster does. So people overlook the simple, reliable option because it seems boring compared to something that feels more exciting or prestigious in the moment. That doesn’t mean the healthy opti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 03:40 PM
2	Men try to gatekeep standards If women are the ones moralizing men’s preferences, that doesn’t contradict my point. it reinforces it. The argument is about the double standard in how preferences get judged, not about which gender is doing the judging.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 02:49 AM
2	Men try to gatekeep standards The “secret council” line was obviously sarcasm. My point wasn’t that women coordinate standards. it’s that men’s preferences are far more likely to get moralized. A woman wanting a tall, wealthy, confident man is framed as empowerment. A man wanting a fit partner often gets framed as shallow or oppressive. Muh patriarchy.. That double standard is the entire point. You’re using a common debate tactic called “literalizing satire.” Instead of addressing your actual claim (double standards) you foc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/26 02:28 AM
15	Men try to gatekeep standards Sure, tone matters. If someone is calling women “disgusting fat bitches” or insulting single mothers, they’re obviously going to get dragged and rightly so. Basic decency applies to everyone. But that’s not the only time it happens. I’ve personally been dragged for standards while saying nothing even remotely like that. I’ve been criticized simply for saying I prefer someone fit, or even just for being in shape myself and having standards at all. The assumption quickly becomes “vain gym bro,” sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 01:12 PM
4	Men try to gatekeep standards I I don’t think that’s nearly as homogeneous as you’re suggesting. For example, I personally have no issue dating single moms. I’ve dated several and even helped raise someone else’s child as my own. As for “hot”. That’s subjective. What I find attractive isn’t always what someone else does. And yes, I prefer a woman smaller than me. I’m 5’7”, around 170 lbs, physically fit and fairly muscular. Wanting a partner who’s smaller than I am isn’t some extreme standard. It’s pretty comparable to the v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 12:25 PM
0	Men try to gatekeep standards It’s not other men commenting on my physique. Dating has become very overwhelming since I got into shape. By your logic, it should be a bunch of gay dudes hitting on me now. Instead I’m flooded with female attention. That’s not why I got physically fit though. I did it mostly for my health. And a little motivation to piss off my ex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 12:01 PM
0	Men try to gatekeep standards Most men go to the gym for general fitness. The male version of plastic surgery is called anabolic steroids	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 11:50 AM
9	Men try to gatekeep standards Except men generally aren’t saying women aren’t allowed to want what they want. What people push back on is when someone insists their standards should guarantee the outcome they want. Those are two different things. If a woman wants a 6’2”, wealthy, charismatic, high-status guy, she’s free to want that. Nobody can stop her. But if those men don’t choose her back, pointing that out isn’t oppression. It’s reality. The same applies to men. If a guy wants a fit, childless woman in her 20s, he’s all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 11:41 AM
1	Men try to gatekeep standards There are far more gym memberships than boob jobs and plastic surgery. Most men don’t actually like big, fake boobs either. I’ll take a perky set of A’s or B’s over plastic DD’s any day of the week. Also most women who do this, do it to compete against other women. A lot of this is your own lack of self esteem too. Looking at before/after lip filler pictures, if you got a lip job, I wouldn’t even notice. Or what about the girl who is currently lying brain dead after a tummy tuck and wanted a “mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 11:23 AM
60	Men try to gatekeep standards Ah yes, the classic theory that men secretly run the global Dating Standards Council where we all meet once a month to decide what women are “allowed” to want. Right next to the agenda item where we collectively vote on women’s “leagues.” Meanwhile in the real world, dating is just two groups of people rejecting each other based on what they personally want. That’s it. No secret male committee required. But somehow when women say “no short guys, no broke guys, no socially awkward guys, no bald g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/26 11:18 AM
1	Is dating in the Past really comparable to dating today? You’re kind of moving the goalposts here. No one said online dating in 1995 looked like Tinder in 2025. The point is that the infrastructure and behavior already existed, and the people using it were mostly Gen X, not Millennials. I’d also argue that online dating was much more effective back then and much less scammy which started with the invention of swiping apps. The timeline is pretty straightforward. Match.com launched in 1995, and it wasn’t alone. Kiss.com was already online in 1994. JDat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 06:05 PM
7	Is dating in the Past really comparable to dating today? Umm Match.com launched in 1995. Gen X was very much online dating. We were also asking ASL when most of you were still playing Pokémon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 06:17 AM
3	Are Social Media Comparisons Raising the Bar for "Masculinity" Unrealistically? There’s some truth to the idea that men and women can show different mating preferences on average, but I think the way it’s framed here is a bit too simplified. In evolutionary psychology, female choosiness does show up across many species because females historically had higher reproductive investment (pregnancy, childbirth, etc.), so being selective had survival advantages. But that doesn’t mean women are endlessly “optimizing” partners while men are just happy with whoever is available. In r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 05:53 AM
5	Are Social Media Comparisons Raising the Bar for "Masculinity" Unrealistically? I think there’s definitely some truth to the social comparison part of what you’re saying. Humans have always compared potential partners, but social media massively increases exposure to extreme outliers. When people constantly see celebrities, influencers, and actors in their feeds, it can shift what the brain starts to treat as “normal,” even though those people represent a tiny fraction of the population. That said, I don’t think this dynamic only affects perceptions of masculinity. Men are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 05:20 AM
5	Do men go down on you much/at all? Especially. I love going down on a woman so much, I will do it for over an hour and drench my face in it. But there are some women I just won’t go down on or won’t for very long.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 05:15 AM
5	For Men in Relationships: Is Emotional Love or Physical Desire More Important? I wasn’t a physical specimen in my 20’s. But at 47, I got into lifting and it’s only gone uphill. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 04:18 AM
1	If you know how to connect with people, there is no such thing as the sexual/dating markeplace It’s usually laziness and gluttony. I used to be a fat fuck too. Then I hit the gym and quit engorging myself with food. It didn’t shape my personality for the better. It also created a lot of self image issues and body dysmorphia I didn’t have when I was fat. But guess what. It gets me a whole lot of women when I was previously invisible. My former fat self was the life of the party. Now I count calories and macros to the extreme and most of my personality revolves around lifting. I used to tel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 01:15 AM
9	If you know how to connect with people, there is no such thing as the sexual/dating markeplace They’re having tons of fun. But many more fat men are habitually alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 12:28 AM
7	If you know how to connect with people, there is no such thing as the sexual/dating markeplace If you’re a fat fuck, you’re not going to connect with anything but a friend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/26 12:23 AM
4	For Men in Relationships: Is Emotional Love or Physical Desire More Important? This attitude is exactly why most people just give up. Nobody is saying you’re going to be attractive as you were at 20. But you can do a lot to defy most of the side effects of aging with the right discipline. Not only for your aesthetics, but for your health. Here I am lifting at 50 years old through FOLFIRINOX infusions. I didn’t beat stage 3 pancreatic cancer by luck alone. Now that I’m done with treatment and my protein levels are normal now, I’ve almost doubled in size. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 11:00 PM
-2	For Men in Relationships: Is Emotional Love or Physical Desire More Important? You’re reaching with outliers. I also got really sick. Probably sicker than anyone who engages in this sub. It didn’t stop me. And did I mention, I’m old?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 10:54 PM
0	For Men in Relationships: Is Emotional Love or Physical Desire More Important? Car accident is unlikely. You can also defy age if you’re not lazy. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 10:51 PM
2	For Men in Relationships: Is Emotional Love or Physical Desire More Important? I’m not lazy enough to lose my muscles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 10:29 PM
1	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating Nobody owes anybody anything about things that happened before you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 01:13 PM
2	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating Sorry but I don’t carry any weight. I moved on a very long time ago. It’s a very distant memory and at this point isn’t in any way important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 01:10 PM
1	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating Except you only think your opinion matters. Reddit tends to do that to unimportant people. You all of a sudden have a voice and think you’re somebody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 01:08 PM
0	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating If I was married, I could think of much better ways to pass the time. Especially not making a whole ass post treading into incel territory.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 08:58 AM
1	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating It’s weird that you would even be interested in such a topic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 08:42 AM
-2	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating Nope. I’ve erased that part of my life. Erased that person. He doesn’t exist anymore. Why would I tell anyone something I don’t talk about or think about myself? It’s not about deterring them. It’s how I live my life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 08:39 AM
-2	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating Then why aren’t you spending time with your wife and kids instead of debating things on Reddit that should be completely irrelevant to you? Why is a married man even interested in topics about dating and hookup culture? Something doesn’t add up here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 07:28 AM
-2	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating Background check information can be expunged though. And what I did 20 years ago has no bearing on who I am now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 07:09 AM
0	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating The OP sounds like he doesn’t get laid much. Caring about this so much that he had to create a post like this reeks of involuntary celibacy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 07:07 AM
–	Women are too willing to lie about their pasts when dating “What is your bodycount” is something you care about when you’re still young, immature and insecure. As you get older, nobody really gives a shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/03/26 07:04 AM
1	Why do men “neg” women? What does that even mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 02:06 PM
1	‘Blue Pillers’ never said shallow women dont exist. But that’s kind of my point. Even if “blue pill” originally just meant “red pill is wrong,” it still ends up functioning like an ideology in practice. You see the same set of assumptions repeated constantly. That looks barely matter, that dating outcomes are mostly explained by men needing to fix their attitudes or behavior, and that talking about attraction dynamics is automatically cynical or misogynistic. Whether those claims are right or wrong isn’t really the issue. It’s that when a consist…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 12:13 PM
2	If men were to focus more on women's personalities and character than looks, women would have alot less options. Men do focus on these things though. But these are the men who women won’t give the time of day anyway. Why should a man who doesn’t have to date fat or ugly women, date fat or ugly women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 12:01 PM
1	‘Blue Pillers’ never said shallow women dont exist. I get what you’re saying, but in practice “blue pill” absolutely functions like its own ideology in a lot of online spaces, like this one. Without Red and Blue, there is no Purple. Even if the original meaning was just “red pill is wrong,” what you see now is a pretty consistent set of assumptions about dating and gender dynamics that people defend just as strongly as red pill people defend their ideas. You can see the same patterns on both sides too. People leaning heavily on anecdotes, treatin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 11:52 AM
3	‘Blue Pillers’ never said shallow women dont exist. Both pills are full of shit. Something I’ve noticed reading this sub for a while is how ideological the entire conversation about dating has become. A lot of the discussion here feels less like people talking about real experiences and more like people defending teams Red vs Blue. The problem is that spaces like this naturally attract a very specific type of participant. People who are happy with their dating lives generally aren’t spending hours debating dating theory on Reddit. So the conversa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 03:18 AM
9	‘Blue Pillers’ never said shallow women dont exist. Blue pillers are just self loathing niceguys hoping that being a knight in white can land him a date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/03/26 12:02 AM
5	Women should not be asked to settle What they view as lesser and what’s actually lesser are often times very different things. It’s crazy how so many dealbreakers exist in the middle of an obesity epidemic that affects women more than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 06:37 PM
–	Feminist indoctrination of men is failing due to evolutionary psychology. A lot of this reads more like evolutionary storytelling than anthropology. True matriarchal societies are actually extremely rare. What anthropologists usually find instead are matrilineal systems, where lineage or property passes through women but political authority is still largely male. Examples like the Mosuo or the Minangkabau are often cited, but even there men typically occupy most formal leadership roles. The idea that patriarchy emerged because wandering men came back and violently sei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/26 06:08 PM
-2	Men leaving for younger women is natural It’s not usually genes giving someone a good body. It’s lifestyle. But women do love using biology to explain why they’re fat while sipping a 1300 calorie Starbucks latte in their glittery Stanley cup. Tall is also only popularized by social media. Biologically, it’s actually pretty horrible genes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/26 04:17 PM
1	If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men? Men certainly aren’t as mechanically inclined as they used to be, but even those of us who are, constantly get accused of mansplaining. My son’s high school also does have auto shop. But that could also be because I live in a Detroit suburb where automotive careers are still a thing. But one thing I’ve noticed is, very rarely do girls ever sign up for this sort of thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/26 03:22 PM
2	If men shouldn't listen to women, then why women should listen to men? Well this is why they drive around with their check engine light on for months and send their car into catastrophic failure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/03/26 12:52 PM
3	Dating single Mother's is a massive "L" For men. Reddit isn’t real life and is why most of you can’t get laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/26 04:28 AM
0	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? It’s pretty universal. Which is why all the complaining about men being lazy, messy, etc we see all over these subs is usually one sided. You even stereotyped in your original comment. I don’t know why women think we can barely function without them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 09:56 PM
2	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? It’s not just me though. I’ve dealt with similar in previous relationships, dealt with it growing up with my own mother and observe it in friends marriages as well. It’s why I live happily alone right now and only bring women over to visit. There’s a big reason why a single guy’s joke with our friends saying “don’t do it” when they’re about to get married. Been there, done that. I enjoy my independence much more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 09:54 PM
3	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? Well after my son’s mom was out of the equation, I was able to get my calories and macros in order. That didn’t come from pot noodles either. One thing a lot of women don’t realize and seem to do subconsciously is wanting to dictate everything. Then get mad if everything doesn’t go exactly her way. As for parenting? We have entirely different styles. Which is why my son absolutely hates it at his mom’s house. When he’s with his mom, he’s in boot camp. Now he has to pick up the slack when it come…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 09:50 PM
1	Expecting women to have men’s libido is unreasonable. Well you can’t really compare this sub to reality. They can’t date or get laid because they spend half their time on Reddit and the other half playing Fortnite or whacking it to Hentai. These men have no style or social skills. Turning to Red Pill to try and learn things that most people already learned in high school but without the echo chamber.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 06:53 PM
3	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? Here’s the weight I lost after I left. I was finally able to program my own diet. And since there wasn’t constant chores and projects to do, it opened up time for the gym and outdoor physical activity like running and hiking. Meanwhile she’s still fat and her new husband is even fatter. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 06:49 PM
1	Expecting women to have men’s libido is unreasonable. You didn’t explicitly say “all women,” but the argument you’re making treats female behavior as if the same incentive structure applies broadly enough to explain it. You described sex for women as “high risk, low reward,” and used that as the explanation for why women generally don’t behave like men sexually. That’s a general model of female behavior. My point is simply that reality is more variable than that model suggests. Some women absolutely see casual sex as low reward and avoid it. Others…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 05:32 PM
1	Expecting women to have men’s libido is unreasonable. How interesting that you quoted that sentence but skipped the one right after it. You said women have little incentive for sex because it’s “high risk, low reward,” but then you also said women can easily get casual sex with men “out of their league” because their behavior is more desirable and less common. Those two ideas don’t really fit together. If the incentives were truly that low across the board, that behavior wouldn’t be happening at all. Clearly a lot of women do pursue casual sex beca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 05:13 PM
-1	Expecting women to have men’s libido is unreasonable. Your original argument contradicts itself in a few places. You say women have little incentive for sex because it’s “high risk, low reward,” but at the same time you acknowledge that women regularly have casual sex with men “out of their league.” If the incentives were really that low, that behavior wouldn’t exist at all. Clearly a lot of women do enjoy sex and pursue it voluntarily. You’re also treating women like a monolith. Women don’t all have the same libido, risk tolerance, or motivations.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 04:57 PM
-2	Expecting women to have men’s libido is unreasonable. These aren’t anecdotes. Women aren’t prudes. This is just another typical “Men Bad” thread posted by the usual suspect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 04:49 PM
-2	Expecting women to have men’s libido is unreasonable. You obviously don’t know very many women. Here’s the thing about a low libido. You’re easily replaced. Most women I date want it multiple times a day. Just because you’re a libido is low does not mean it is even close to common. A lot of times I have a hard time even being able to keep up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 04:36 PM
-1	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? Women taking it upon themselves to do this crap though and then complain about it. My breakfast this morning was oats, cottage cheese and a cup of yogurt. But my ex would have made a giant ass meal consisting of bacon, eggs, biscuits & gravy, hash browns, etc. Then she would expect me to clean it up. But not only don’t I want to, I didn’t want the food in the first place. Women need to realize that most of us want simple. Not trying to waste half the day in the kitchen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 03:34 PM
-2	About the chore gap, could gendered differences play into it? And what is the endgame, anyway? Home-cooked meals can be healthier and cheaper, but the problem is most people are not cooking healthy. It’s hard to imagine that a 1500 cal of casserole would be healthy. Not only do I not want to eat like that, but I don’t want the mess that comes with preparing it. I have much better things to do with my time. I think this is a problem with a lot of these types of women. And a lot of it goes back to their upbringing. Being raised at the height of the obesity epidemic. Were giant high carb, hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 03:27 PM
1	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options Does my body look super buff? This still requires 6 days of PPL strength training and about 190g of protein a day. I have friends in the military. These guys are quite a bit smaller. I’m 16% BFP, cutting to about 12%. https://preview.redd.it/e9xogrj9fxmg1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7316cb2a7b1eeae7c125bbcbaf539f72dd52c82	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 12:54 AM
1	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options Lean mass can absolutely exist in military builds, but the physique you end up with is usually different from someone training specifically for hypertrophy. Military training tends to focus more on endurance, work capacity, and functional strength, whereas strength training for muscle growth focuses on progressive overload and maximizing muscle protein synthesis. Those are different training goals, so the physiques that come from them tend to look different. Military personnel are generally fit …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/26 12:27 AM
1	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options Quarterbacks rely on more than bodyweight, fitness and cardio though. I would argue that my body is more like that of a quarterback. This comes from a six day PPL strength training routine consisting of free weights and machines and 190g of protein a day you’re not going to get from MRE’s. Military nutrition targets adequacy, not optimization. Military rations and dining facilities are designed to cover the needs of most service members. Daily protein intake often ends up around 90–120 g per day…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 11:56 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. I’m not overweight either though. 16% BFP is not overweight. It’s fit/athletic And again. 5’7” is not below average or short. It’s one of the averages used to get mean height. By your logic, 5’10” should be tall because it’s above what you’re calling average. But that’s called short too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 11:20 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. There are people who think a BMI of 26 is fat. Especially when it comes to rating women. And again, 5’7” is not short. If it was, it would be used clinically and not just on social media. A bmi of 26 also doesn’t mean fat. Do I look fat to you? My BMI is 26.6. You just called a 26 BMI fat. My goal weight is actually 181 lbs once my recomp is done which is a bmi of 28.5. This will be at 12% bodyfat. My current BFP is about 16% https://preview.redd.it/tt6dwrj9twmg1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 10:53 PM
1	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options I have never heard of an attractive football player struggle, having women. But a lot of football players also aren’t built. 40% of them are linemen carrying a lot of extra mass. But the most attractive sports position according to women is a quarterback. Quarterbacks are moderately muscular, which is the physique I’m talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 10:39 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. When you have people at many different heights, it’s not really noticeable unless you’re nearly clinically short. We’re talking inches here to the point of picking nits. What you’re calling short is like calling someone with a BMI of 26, obese. I’ve literally never been called short outside of the internet in any setting. But I do get a ton of dates which should be impossible if I’m so short apparently. Not sure I’m not true that Women might have their height filters set up on Tinder, but in the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 10:33 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. That’s not noticeable . I was never considered short before social media. Your definition of short comes from online culture tends to blur the line. So many men lie about their height now and few are even noticing a couple inches. I’d love to see you point out 5’7” from 5’9” on a blank ruler. Short stature is medically defined as below the 3rd percentile (about 5’4” for U.S. men). 5’7” is around the 25th percentile. That’s below average, not clinically short. That’s the standard used in endocrin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 08:59 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. It’s not technically “short”. Short stature is defined as below the 3rd percentile. 5’7” falls well within the normal range of height. 5’7” is only short according to online culture. The only reason 5’7” feels ‘short’ is because social media and dating apps have normalized 6’0” as baseline even though only about 15–16% of men are actually 6’0” or taller. Internet short and biologically short are two very different things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 08:26 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. What conspiracy? It’s basic white girls who started the trend that 5’7” is apparently short. Some of these 5’1” chihuahuas go as far as calling 5’11” short while making her boyfriends height her entire personality. This is discussed often in r/tall. https://preview.redd.it/jgn66f71ivmg1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c45f3729358a96381383d0de3b90363b3458cfc0	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 06:26 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. That’s not what I said. You always seem to twist words for some weird reason. 5’7” is only short according to the immature basic white girl. Statistically it’s average height.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 05:39 PM
1	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. How is 5’7” having a Napoleon Complex? 5’7” isn’t even short according to anyone but a 19 year old TikTok girl.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 05:34 PM
-1	Most women screen for vanity metrics, not true compatibility I aim to please	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 02:01 AM
-2	Most women screen for vanity metrics, not true compatibility Why is it amusing for a fitness guy to want a fitness girl? And if women really want a man like me, why aren’t they working out alongside me and eating as healthy as I do? Blaming shit like thyroid problems, and PCOS with a 1200 calorie Starbucks drink in their hand in a pink, sparkley Stanley cup. But they won’t give the man who will consume the calories with them the time of day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:25 AM
-2	Most women screen for vanity metrics, not true compatibility WTF are you talking about? I feel like I’m trying to explain this to Chat GPT. Stop acting like a bot and listen to what I’m actually saying. These women prefer me. I don’t prefer them. What I want is very hard to even come by as the average female body fat percentage is 39.9 according to the CDC. It’s only March and I’ve already slept with 9 women this year. One even keeps bugging me to move in with her so she can take care of me. I wouldn’t even have to work. Like a trad wife who also brings i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:12 AM
-2	Most women screen for vanity metrics, not true compatibility I’m saying I like a girl I actually have things in common with. I’m the Midwest, this is a unicorn because the majority of women here are fat, lazy and sedentary thanks to the food lobby and body positivity. So top percent only in the way it pertains to who I am. Yes I’m physically fit and attractive. But physically fit and attractive is only part of it. Of the small minority that even exists in my dating pool, few are actually relationship material. Meanwhile I have multiple overweight girls wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 01:05 AM
-3	Most women screen for vanity metrics, not true compatibility I’m saying this as someone who gets attention most men wish they got. Most of these women would be much more compatible with the men they are rejecting. But what I actually want at my age is like finding a unicorn because of the obesity epidemic affecting the majority of women in my state. With the down to earth girls, it’s not about compatibility. It’s about supply vs demand. Shitty preferences by the masses have turned your gender into a commodity. Preferences that make zero sense in a world w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:41 AM
-4	Most women screen for vanity metrics, not true compatibility It’s not just about 6/6/6 though. Women largely have pretty inflated egos now. Not all women, but enough where the balance is really thrown off. For every down to earth girl there actually is, there are multiple men trying to date her and there can only be one winner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/26 12:18 AM
2	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options I’m a bit older than you, I’m sure and men were more in this position, 20 years ago. But most still went with women close to themselves when it came to looks and status. There wasn’t all these swipe based dating apps and social media influencers keeping common men single. It’s even worse now for men who are older because not only have most of the college age hot girls completely let themselves go, the ones who are still attractive expect you to have assets, retirement savings, etc even if they s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 11:07 PM
1	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options I’m not talking about jacked though. At 5 foot seven, I have 14.25 inch biceps and I’m working my way up to about 15 to 16. That’s not exactly jacked. That’s an attractive beach body. The military body does not look like they depict in the movies. Military arms at this height would be more comparable to 13 inches or so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 10:18 PM
5	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options I just don’t get the mentality. When I was younger, women generally stayed in their own leagues. If they wanted better, they thrived to make themselves better. Now all of a sudden, even a 5 thinks she’s a goddess, trying to compete for 7’s and 8’s. Meanwhile the female 7’s now want 10’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 08:48 PM
9	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options I get that but even games usually have leagues and aren’t completely lobsided like modern dating. I meet a lot of girls who I either fuck or befriend, but not very many who I find to be true relationship potential.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 08:42 PM
1	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options What kind of body though? The kind of hypertrophy that women find attractive isn’t really obtainable through military pushups, ruck marches and 5 mile runs while eating MRE’s. Military training is built for endurance. Not an attractive body.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 08:19 PM
12	Most men who are struggling with dating have not exhausted all options I’d argue that these things made me too good for my dating pool. As an avid weight lifter who trains, 6 days a week, it’s hard to find a woman who can match my body or physical activity. I do have a ton of options now. But damn is the bar, low. It’s crazy how these women wanted nothing to do with me when I looked more like them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 08:13 PM
7	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. Same way we’d question linking personality flaws to weight, appearance, or gender, Tying behavior to height is still assigning character traits based on a physical feature. It’s uncalled for regardless. There are more creative ways to call out the person without shaming physical features that many men share.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 04:18 PM
14	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. Oh I know. And mods here love to coddle her. I’ve had a few week long bans defending myself from her constant sexism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 03:44 PM
11	Most women have no desire to use their bodies to soothe the egos of insecure men. Saying “Napoleon Complex” makes you uneducated considering Napoleon wasn’t even short. It was just something being used against him by his political opponents. “Napoleon complex” is sexist because it links a man’s personality to an unchangeable physical trait and reinforces the idea that men are supposed to be tall to be secure or dominant. That’s body shaming wrapped in a gender stereotype. No different than calling tall girls intimidating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/26 03:29 PM
5	How women can find men that prioritize connection above sex I always get pushback for this, but the best way is to stop feeding into men out of your league. I like to call the problem, Late Stage Hypergamy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/26 03:29 AM
2	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it There are far more lonely fat guys than fat women. I used to be one of them until I slimmed way down and packed on muscle. Then they all came crawling out of the woodwork wanting to date me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 03:18 PM
–	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded I get a lot of female attention. I fail to see your point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 01:18 PM
–	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded Apparently not the Reddit neckbeards	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 01:01 PM
1	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded Where did I say I was cruel? I have a lot of obese friends. Your response seems more like deflection after I countered your claim of sexualization while also debunking starvation as being the expectation which is actually very unattractive. Even as an athletic man, fat people accuse me of starvation. Assuming the only way to not be fat is by starving yourself. Even though I eat roughly 2500 calories a day and 170g to 190g of protein.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 10:59 AM
–	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded Why is that always the deflection? Attraction is part of it, yes. But I also prefer my partner to be healthy and physically active. This is something the average sedentary Redditor would never understand. I’m doing a 20 mile hike next month. I expect her to be able to keep up and actually complete it with me. An obese person could never handle it. Or the 10k run I have lined up in May.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 10:52 AM
–	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded It’s called attraction. It’s also health. It’s pontification to hold a woman as accountable as I hold myself? Obesity is not natural as you seem brainwashed by progressive fat acceptance ideology. It’s surprising that this is such a progressive take considering it’s both environmentally unfriendly and supports corporate billionaires.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 09:30 AM
–	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded Why would you have to kill yourself in the gym? Thats a huge misconception and would be drastically overtraining. Most of us also want a woman to still look attractive when the corset comes off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 09:22 AM
–	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded Umm we never had an obesity epidemic until now. Also nobody decided women needed to starve. Starving makes a woman age like shit just as much as overeating does. You don’t get that sexy “toned” look by starving. That requires calories, protein and resistance training. But hey, anything to use Reddit fetish words like Misogyny. Right? It’s also a way to stroke your own laziness because fitness requires work. Why do crunches and deadlifts when you can hide your fupa and pannus through shapewear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 08:50 AM
–	The idea that a guy is morally obliged to date an old chick just because he’s old is regarded Or maybe we want older women to thrive to become more attractive. This comes down to gym and diet rather than makeup and shape wear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 08:38 AM
–	No matter what, Looks determine everything in dating (unless you have no choice) Anyone can land a 1. But nobody wants a 1. Meanwhile a female 6 doesn’t want a male 6. Do you even know what a 1 looks like? <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 05:43 AM
5	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it They’re really not though. Especially in these subs where the entire narrative is build around “women are wonderful”. Time and time again, men are told to improve all these things just to get a woman. Despite the fact that what most are looking for should already be on their level. It’s strange to me how average men are struggling to find any women in the middle of an obesity epidemic. 20 years ago, women were not this fat. The ones who were, knew they were and dated in their own league. They ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 05:38 AM
3	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it Except the majority of eligible women become below our looks level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 04:09 AM
9	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it Keep deflecting. We complain about the catfishing and lack of drive to actually become attractive. The bar is not only low, it’s gross. Men are told to do all this improving, only to find the dating pool becomes far below their league.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 04:08 AM
6	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it What excuse? When you’re a fit and attractive as a man, you’re better than the vast majority of your dating pool. You’re basically a Maserati in a world full of Kia’s. I say this as someone who gets a couple dozen dating app likes a day. Women need to do better and actually meet the standards they have. But most are too lazy, unmotivated and addicted to alcohol, Starbucks and junk food. Stop relying on clothes to hide your FUPA you found on the TikTok shop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 03:44 AM
8	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it Problem is, when you’re fit and active, the women you find who are fit/active and actually looking for a relationship are very few and far between. They’re too busy celebrating hot girl summer. What you end up with is flings/one night stands. The ones who want a relationship with you are the average or unattractive ones who won’t give men in their own league the time of day and are too unmotivated to put themselves in your league. They would rather lie to themselves in the name of body positivit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 03:24 AM
7	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it There are far more fat college girls now than there were when I was in school. Some studies show the amount of fat 18 to 24 year olds on campuses being as high as 44%. Yet a guy is still supposed to lift weights and look fashionable to get one. Fat girls never used to call themselves Thicc or Curvy. They were just fat. Hot people got with hot people. Average people got with average people. Fat people got with fat people. But thanks to modern social media, the dynamics have changed in a very absu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 02:50 AM
11	A lot of guys here endlessly whine about dating, but only give the most lukewarm effort into actually doing it So what happens when you do all these things, get the attention and realize just how low the bar really is? Like men, 73% of women are overweight or obese. The average female bodyfat percentage is 39.9%. It’s weird to me how men are supposed to do all this self improvement according to Blue Pill but women don’t seem to have to. While average men are being ignored, us attractive men are being catfished by shape shifters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/26 02:33 AM
–	Men have strong "men are wonderful" bias which makes it impossible to talk about any behavior any men display. Except more women have harmed both men and children than bears. Why are men being singled out? Oh that’s right. Sexism. You’re never going to convince me that the Man vs Bear thing is anything less than hate speech. But because we’re men, our feelings matter less. We’re just supposed to suck up your hateful stereotypes. It’s the very reason I was never taken serious as a male domestic violence survivor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 03:02 PM
–	Men have strong "men are wonderful" bias which makes it impossible to talk about any behavior any men display. And you don’t think people stereotype minorities due to experiences? This is every bit as sexist as that is racist. And you’re literally trying to defend it in the same way Boomers tried to defend racism. Especially the fear of black males.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 02:45 PM
–	Men have strong "men are wonderful" bias which makes it impossible to talk about any behavior any men display. The explanation changes based on the narrative. But it’s sexist and demeaning, regardless. What if we shifted it to race? I mean these Man Vs Bear people are the same ones who lock their car door the moment they turn down Martin Luther King Jr BLVD.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 02:22 PM
–	Men have strong "men are wonderful" bias which makes it impossible to talk about any behavior any men display. Exactly. Man vs Bear isn’t just “Some Men”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 12:14 PM
1	Almost all women in the developed world are dating men out of their league She doesn’t really have to be poor. I mean I go over to Canada and date 8’s and 9’s with their own money, house and job while the overweight American 6 with an EBT card tries to date like she’s a 10.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/26 04:28 AM
10	Women don't see what they do as toxic because it's not male-flavored They really try to though. A lot of stuff women complain about are things they brought on themselves. A mentality passed on by their boomer parents and grandparents.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 06:42 PM
16	Women don't see what they do as toxic because it's not male-flavored Why does the woman automatically get to decide what the weight is in the first place though?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 06:37 PM
1	Online dating is “broken” but somehow millions of people are dating 🤔 Sounds more like you trying to cope with your post falling apart. Single because I can’t secure commitment with a girl I’m attracted to? I am attracted to these women. What I seek in a partner is incredibly rare. Most people don’t share my lifestyle. Something a sedentary Redditor like yourself would never understand. Only about 5% of women can perform a single, strict, unassisted pull-up for instance. If I settle down, she has to be incredibly athletic. See? A unicorn. Now go drink your Mountai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 04:16 AM
1	Online dating is “broken” but somehow millions of people are dating 🤔 It’s literally how the apps are designed. They don’t make money by finding you a relationship. They make money by keeping you connected as long as possible. So the system is optimized for time spent, swipes, matches, notifications, emotional re-engagement. Not long-term relationship success. Swipe apps use variable reward schedules (you don’t know when you’ll get a match), intermittent reinforcement and dopamine-triggering notifications. That’s the same psychological framework used in social med…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 03:56 AM
1	Online dating is “broken” but somehow millions of people are dating 🤔 It’s designed like a casino. That’s the entire point of the swipe feature and the algorithms that go with it. Apps worked for better for commitment before they designed this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 03:19 AM
1	Online dating is “broken” but somehow millions of people are dating 🤔 Having multiple dates lined up doesn’t mean it works. The apps are greedy and are designed to push people away from commitment. I’m guilty of it too. I’ve done a whole lot of pump & dumps, a handful of flings and made a couple friends with benefits. But I’ll be lying if I said I wasn’t looking for a unicorn if I was going to ever commit again and the apps are to blame. You have a whole lot of lonely men, starving for attention that women will not give them. So they pay a fortune on premium subsc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/26 02:43 AM
2	If TRP wasn’t true, there wouldn’t be such immediate resistance to and censorship of it You are your own worst enemy though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/26 12:28 AM
3	If TRP wasn’t true, there wouldn’t be such immediate resistance to and censorship of it Even without politics and censorship. TRP is just weird and creepy. Dating only sucks if you’re incredibly ugly, have unrealistic expectations or spend your life habitually online. Following such an ideology makes things even worse for you yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/26 12:17 AM
2	It seems if a woman ever has a hook up, she should be expected to keep having subpar sex with strangers. I literally know lonely guys who think they deserve nothing less than a supermodel. Fat, sloppy and balding, thinking they’re some kind of gods gift. But when you’re actually successful with women, you’re not manipulated by pills or the podcasters profiting off you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/26 02:20 PM
0	It seems if a woman ever has a hook up, she should be expected to keep having subpar sex with strangers. I’m not sure what’s black pill about anything I’m saying. Men who are successful enough with women that they get to pick and choose like that don’t generally latch onto pill ideology as it’s basically a cope.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/26 01:38 PM
0	It seems if a woman ever has a hook up, she should be expected to keep having subpar sex with strangers. If he’s latching onto Red Pill ideology, he’s probably not getting pussy unless she weighs like 300lbs. It’s funny how guys who look like DJ Qualls are acting like they’re gods gift to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/26 01:30 PM
4	It seems if a woman ever has a hook up, she should be expected to keep having subpar sex with strangers. Yet it seems to be Red Pill men who are struggling to find a relationship. They seem to be the ones getting red in the face that women won’t touch them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/26 01:18 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Umm go before work or late at night. Other times my son works out with me. I also have gym equipment at home. When you’re physically fit, you have extra energy to do things compared to the fat, sedentary couch potato which is over 70% of you. You probably spend more time on Reddit than I spend on fitness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/26 11:40 PM
3	Should conditions that affect only women, like painful menstrual periods, legally qualify for workplace accommodations? Employers just find a reason to fire you if you have cancer. And good luck finding a new job if you mention you have or recently had cancer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 09:24 PM
2	Should conditions that affect only women, like painful menstrual periods, legally qualify for workplace accommodations? Legally obligated to and what they do are entirely different things though. If an employer feels your disability is affecting your productivity, they can just find another reason to fire you. It’s also worded in the law as “reasonable accommodation”. Missing a lot of work for instance isn’t considered reasonable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 09:19 PM
2	Should conditions that affect only women, like painful menstrual periods, legally qualify for workplace accommodations? “Might” is the key word here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 09:17 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Again, you’re twisting everything . He’s at his mom’s maybe 4 days a month. A point you conveniently left out. I was also only receiving assistance for a year with most of that time usually reserved for work spent on doctors appointments, hospital stays and very aggressive chemotherapy. The other 14 years, I was raising him and working full time. Yet again. Another point you conveniently left out to twist the conversation to promote your narrative. Notice what happened? You smuggled your conclus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 07:42 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. If they didn’t consider me a friend, why would I consider them a close friend? Further more, every one of them would agree with everything I’m saying. Yes. You included quotes That actually says something important and proves my entire point. You now shifted from “You have a victim mentality” to “I included quotes of what you said” That’s not a rebuttal. That’s doubling down on interpretation. Quoting someone doesn’t prove your interpretation of them is correct. What you’re doing is taking selec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 06:43 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I didn’t answer because the question was based on your false white knight rhetoric in the first place with your cheap attempt at gaslighting. But if I’d have to respond, I’d say that most of my closest friends are women. I’ve told plenty of stories where I wasn’t the victim. I talk about hard experiences because they shaped me. That’s not the same thing. You seem more focused on labeling me than understanding what I actually said as there’s a big difference between being a victim and surviving s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 05:37 PM
0	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Those are two very separate issues. And as a long term tax payer, I’ve more than paid into the system that’s giving back temporarily. This is social security money I already paid in which is why I’m covered by SSDI instead of just SSD which is purely needs based with no work history or tax payment needed. I’m only still collecting it because I faced cancer related work discrimination which is currently in the court. I’m not sure where the irony is here considering I’ve worked my entire life and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 03:16 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. At no point did I call myself a victim, white knight. Each one of your responses is full of deflection. This whole post is about “EmoTiOnAL LabOr” which is very much paying the victim card. I’ve been through a long term fucked up relationship, pancreatic cancer, etc. But never has that stopped me from being the best father possible and strongest person I can possibly be. And never has it ever been something I would label as eMOtIonAL LaBOr. That’s a true victim mentality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/26 02:58 PM
0	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I’ve raised my kid for almost 15 years. I’ve been off work fighting cancer for only a year which was no picnic if you read up on what Whipple surgery where they gut your entire digestive system and FOLFIRINOX does to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 11:50 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. What sob story? I spent the last year fighting and kicking cancers ass. One of the deadliest cancers known to man, while doing significantly more than the typical fat chick overfeeding her kids. If I can do this stuff through Whipple surgery and extremely brutal chemotherapy, what’s their excuse?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 11:24 PM
3	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Thank you very much. I’m glad to have it behind me. I’m just giving an example of someone who would very much claim to do all this emotional labor with nobody doing their part and then scream weaponized incompetence. If my ex came in this sub and made a post about all her household labor with no help, everybody will be cheering her on and calling me a lazy bum. Too many times though the argument is very one-sided while we are accused of not pulling our weight. I’m just giving the male perspectiv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 09:18 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. It’s not a desire to do chores. It’s an obsession that all this shit needs to be done. Like a workaholic who hates their job but still spends long hours doing it. They get there early, they stay late and pick up every overtime shift offered. They then complain about other employees not picking up the slack and working as hard as they are. This tends to be a lot of women in a domestic sense when claiming to take on 90% of the household load. My place is clean. I do it efficient. Same with my cook…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 09:04 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I was with the other parent though and there’s big reasons why I’m no longer with her. Part of it was her alcoholism. But another reason was her over the top idea of chores which too many women possess. Even when it was right, it still wasn’t up to her standards and it was never enough. “Dishes are being washed in the wrong order. That cup doesn’t go there. Why are you mixing that in that bowl when it should be in this bowl? You don’t fold clothes like that, you do it like this”. Even though my …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 08:55 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I temporarily get disability while doing Uber to put food on the table. I also did this for a year while battling stage 3 pancreatic cancer which I just beat. Through one of the most complex surgeries known to man and 12 rounds of very aggressive chemotherapy. This combination together has caused permanent side effects. Until I was diagnosed with cancer last year, I was working 50 hour weeks in the underground utility industry on top of everything else. Do what don’t you want to hear from me aga…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 07:50 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. But are you sure he needs to carry a larger load? Or is she going way over the top with her load to begin with, doing a lot of unnecessary chores for the sake of doing them and creating even more chores through things like messy, complex home cooked dinners with a ton of leftovers that are only going to be thrown out? In my own personal experiences with my son’s mom, my own mom as well as looking at other people’s marriages, a lot of times this seems to be the case. Like women have this chore mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 07:28 PM
2	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. House of a man who leaves cleaning on the back burner? Umm no. It’s not an obsession. I’m also very efficient with cooking meaning I don’t have to mess up an entire kitchen to make a meal. And unlike most single moms who have kids as fat as she is, my son isn’t fat. We eat clean and healthy, go to the gym and do all kinds of outdoor activities together. Kind of hard to dirty a house when you’re not there staying fat and sedentary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 06:14 PM
2	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Mom penalty? Why don’t dads have these issues when raising a kid full time? These statistics are based on sole caregivers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 05:59 PM
4	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Most of it. And I was raising two at that time, ten years apart in age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 05:57 PM
1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Umm I do all of that. It’s not emotional labor. But obviously Gen Z women need a label for everything because adulting is so tough apparently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 05:55 PM
9	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. This is most women which is why my life is now flings, one night stands, FWB’s and situationships unless I meet someone who completely blows my mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 05:47 PM
3	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. On an anonymous message board, why does it matter? It’s not like anybody knows who I am. But my personal experiences do debunk the typical Reddit narratives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 05:38 PM
3	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I’m using it as an example to debunk the typical Reddit Women are Wonderful narrative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 05:05 PM
7	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Considering his mom is a drunk, yes I was. And I raised his older brother who wasn’t even mine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 05:02 PM
2	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I’ve observed similar things with married friends. I also watched my dad go through it with my mom. That man was never allowed to sit down and still did everything wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:58 PM
-1	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Why do you assume I’m worked up? I know for some of you, this is real life, but for us normies, this is nothing more than entertainment through debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:57 PM
2	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Nope. Lived together for 13 years though. I wanted an escape route without courts demanding alimony.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:54 PM
8	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Umm I’m not with her, bot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:43 PM
6	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Try harder at doing what? A bunch of unnecessary chores all the time? Theres a big reason why my son will look back and remember all the memories we made together that were not made with his mom. Theres also a reason why kids statistically do better with single dads than with single moms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:24 PM
4	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. It completely addressed your comment. You just didn’t like the answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:22 PM
8	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. It was easy when he was 4 too. Raising a teenager also comes with a lot of other responsibilities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:21 PM
3	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I’m not mad at anyone. I’m just calling out the hypocrisy. As a single dad, what work exactly don’t I do that? These women are doing? Oh that’s right. I’m not obsessively cleaning 24/7 while barking out orders to everyone. I actually make time to go to the gym and have a social life. There’s also a reason why my son prefers to be with me instead of his mother and she now only sees him maybe 20% of the time. Because as a 14-year-old, he does not want to be there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:06 PM
5	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Tried that. Eventually, I left her ass. Now she’s got a new man to boss around. My son told me she made the dude sleep in the garage once lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:04 PM
-8	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. But it is easy. If it’s not, they’re doing it wrong. Source? I’m a single dad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 04:02 PM
-2	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I would never call that labor. But for whatever reason, women seem to want a metal for their effort. I woke up this morning, took my son to school, now after the gym, I will be grocery shopping until I pick him up, then cooking dinner and helping him with homework. Absolutely none of this is eMOtIoNaL LAbOr	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:57 PM
14	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I gave an example of the most recent woman. That’s not the only woman I ever lived with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:55 PM
16	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Well, with my ex it didn’t matter what I did it was wrong. Dishes had to be washed in a certain way, in a certain order. Everything here to go in the cupboards a specific way that she took it upon herself to determine. She decided the grocery list, even if I objected, chores, had to be done exactly when she said they did. Unless of course she decided she wanted to do something else with her friends, then chores could wait. When she said jump, I had to say “ how high?”. Anything that was not done…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:53 PM
0	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. She will buy the toilet paper while I’m at work and then throw it in my face. What if I want to change the bedsheets on Tuesday and she wants to change them on Friday? By default she is right and I am wrong. That’s how most marriages work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:48 PM
18	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. It’s a hill most women will die on. Then things aren’t going their way, they will take to read it and make posts about Weaponized incompetence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:48 PM
2	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Control freak	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:47 PM
21	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Most women wouldn’t agree to this though. Any woman I’ve cohabited with always carried the mindset that she made the household rules. Single life is much more peaceful because I can ask her to leave in the morning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:45 PM
-5	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. That usually comes down to her just being a Nazi.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:44 PM
-5	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. Nope	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:43 PM
-4	The "Emotional Labor" Argument Is Wildly overplayed by women. I’m a single dad and I don’t give a fuck what Google says. Anything I do for my son is not emotional labor. Anyone who carries that mindset should not be a parent. This is generally a feminist take.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/26 03:43 PM
1	What’s keeping the red pill alive? There are often times two sides to those rants though. My son’s mom might try those same rants while leaving three quarters of the story out. There are reasons why I left her ass. And until now, stuff like finding women came natural. What changed? The internet now dictates their brains. And now they have manosphere influencers to brainwash them even more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/26 12:46 AM
1	What’s keeping the red pill alive? They don’t need to. We generally learned, hanging out with our peers and mingling on our social circles. But your mom should have taught them how to brush their teeth and wash their ass. And sent them outside instead of Reddit, COD and GTA all day and night.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 10:20 PM
4	What’s keeping the red pill alive? You need RP to teach you something you should have learned from your mom or PBS?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 07:42 PM
1	What’s keeping the red pill alive? I’ve yet to see it work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 07:40 PM
2	Men, why are you surprised that attractive women are attracted to attractive men af/bb? And should women feel the same? Not when the wallet itself looks gross. I once had a woman who wanted me and had a multi million dollar settlement. I couldn’t have imagined being stuck with her. I’m thinking it would have to be even more gross to have Donald Trump on top of you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 05:55 PM
0	Dating older men (like 10 plus years older) is simply a bad deal for most women My doctors are very confident considering my age, lifestyle and genetic makeup of my tumor. Also keep in mind that someone can get cancer at any age. It’s not an age related illness and I lost a girlfriend to cancer at 23 years old. One of my fest friends lost a nephew who was 4 years old. It’s not something that’s related to age gap relationships. Sorry to hear about your mom btw. I lost my mom to breast cancer. She was 9 years younger than my dad who is still here at 82. While he was diagnosed…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 02:56 PM
0	Dating older men (like 10 plus years older) is simply a bad deal for most women I’m the guy who beat cancer and was still lifting weights aggressively, 15 hours a week and running 5k’s all through chemotherapy. I’m cancer free and owe much of that to my fit, healthy lifestyle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 02:35 PM
1	Dating older men (like 10 plus years older) is simply a bad deal for most women Decline with age? lol. I’m 50 and very athletic. You think a 40 year old woman would have to be my caretaker? Chances are, I’m in significantly better shape than her as I weight train 6 days a week, run for 3 days, hike, kayak, etc. I’m probably in way better shape than you as well. My current girlfriend is 38 and I’m much more athletically advanced than her. I have no plans on slowing down anytime soon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 10:32 AM
-2	Men, why are you surprised that attractive women are attracted to attractive men af/bb? And should women feel the same? I’m surprised when they end up with unattractive men because she chose something like height or money over actual attractiveness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/26 03:26 AM
–	‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not gendered I use very light olive oil. I also do a lot of sous vide and air fryer cooking. My dishes are also spotless. My ex would have gone batshit crazy just for me buying a sous vide considering she also wanted to control the finances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/26 11:43 AM
1	The things that progressive or blue pill women prefer in dating, are usually the things they hate about society in general. Oh, shut up with that monolith crap. That’s a stupid Reddit fetish word as I feel like I’m speaking to AI. Your options are going to be significantly lower. A man who is 5’1” might still get a girlfriend. But he will still be passed up by the vast majority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 07:45 PM
0	‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not gendered My glasses are never greasy. But I also don’t eat greasy food because I’m not a fat ass. There’s also this invention called a dishwasher that I got yelled at for using even though it uses significantly less water than washing by hand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 07:16 PM
-1	‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not gendered Yea, eventually I just stopped doing it. Then I became “lazy”. But what was the point when I only got yelled at and insulted anyway? It was better getting yelled at for doing nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 04:23 PM
0	‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not gendered I don’t wait until it’s filth, but I have much more important things to do. Like a social life and 6 day a week gym routine. A lot of the extra work I’ve seen women do who I’ve lived with has been mostly unnecessary. I don’t believe it’s because it’s what’s expected of you as I would rather you go on a hike with me or spend the day at the beach. I think it’s something that’s been passed down through the generations when it (a) was actually expected of you and (b), because your mothers and grandm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 04:01 PM
7	‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not gendered Holy fuck. The doing dishes in the wrong order scenario is so real. It’s like a lot of women’s chore methods are very ritualistic. My ex also used to pull the same crap when it came to my cooking methods. Despite the fact that I was a better cook.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 03:52 PM
1	‘emotional labor’ and ‘physical labor’ are more about partner selection and not gendered Stop getting married right away then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 03:49 PM
1	The things that progressive or blue pill women prefer in dating, are usually the things they hate about society in general. So not being attracted to someone is homophobic? Most men wouldn’t want a woman who has a haircut like the school bully or corrections officer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/26 05:06 AM
-2	Vague language is necessary for women’s world view But again. I’ve never had a woman come over and not have sex with me. Whether it’s for dinner, a movie or to chill in the pool. I don’t even have to make the first sexual advance. So I guess I’ve come to expect it while letting her lead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/26 08:54 PM
-2	The things that progressive or blue pill women prefer in dating, are usually the things they hate about society in general. There is. There are certain people who you can tell just by looking at their fashion sense, that they’re LGBTQ. There are certain uniforms that men are going to find to be a turnoff.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/26 08:13 PM
1	The things that progressive or blue pill women prefer in dating, are usually the things they hate about society in general. But do you look the part? I’ve never met a man who would reject a bisexual woman unless she was the butch kind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/26 08:09 PM
-3	Vague language is necessary for women’s world view I can’t say I’ve ever had a woman come over to look at a book collection. Or any collection for that matter. If she’s coming over, sex is pretty much guaranteed. I never even have to initiate it. Could it be that some men are friend zoned while men like me are not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/26 08:05 PM
24	Why do men feel so negatively towards OnlyFans creators? And women are responsible for the negative perception they receive, being an adult content creator. Nobody owes them any respect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/26 03:43 AM
1	Women of Reddit are not interested in helping men, they are more interested in abusing and bullying them Here’s the thing. I don’t unless I’m simply wanting to get laid at the moment and even then, there’s still a limit. But that doesn’t stop the accusations of misogyny and fatphobia. Rogan can also be interesting to listen to even if you don’t agree with some of his talking points. The show isn’t exactly what the media perceives it as being.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 03:42 PM
1	Women of Reddit are not interested in helping men, they are more interested in abusing and bullying them What does that comment even mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 03:14 PM
1	Women of Reddit are not interested in helping men, they are more interested in abusing and bullying them Same can be said for the women we choose not to pick. A lot of women seem to want their cake and eat it to. Like how dare me find her obesity undesirable. Now I’m an incel lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/26 07:21 AM
-1	Women of Reddit are not interested in helping men, they are more interested in abusing and bullying them Are you talking about men? Or incels? Because those of us who get women and have standards tend to get shamed for it. Shallow, fatphobic, objectifying, grooming, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 11:45 PM
2	Women of Reddit are not interested in helping men, they are more interested in abusing and bullying them Even if you do get pussy, Reddit women will literally gaslight you for having standards, preferences and dealbreakers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/26 10:20 PM
2	Guys who complain about “fairness” won’t ask for a hookup because it hurts their victim complex. Why am I here? Reading takes from the mentally disabled is very entertaining. You know you read the rest. But you won’t comment on it because you know I’m right. I hope one day you finally get the help that you need.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/26 03:56 PM
–	Guys who complain about “fairness” won’t ask for a hookup because it hurts their victim complex. Who are “you guys”? Perhaps it’s time for you to step away from the battle of femcels vs incels. What is your BMI BTW? Because your echo chamber mindset and top 1% commenter flair says you must be very, very sedentary. This is so unhealthy both mentally and physically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/26 03:44 PM
6	Guys who complain about “fairness” won’t ask for a hookup because it hurts their victim complex. You’re using the comments of Reddit virgins to understand men? The only way to seriously understand things is to actually touch grass.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/26 12:54 PM
1	When is a woman too picky or superficial? I’m sure I touch far more grass than you do. Especially looking at karma count on a 2 year old account.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/26 08:22 AM
3	When is a woman too picky or superficial? It seems to be a problem with American popular culture. Living on an international border, I match with women both in both the US and Canada. It’s funny how much more attractive the Canadian women are who match with me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 09:09 PM
0	When is a woman too picky or superficial? They’re never going to meet those standards. So we generally have flings or situationships with women who are obtainable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 08:01 PM
-1	When is a woman too picky or superficial? This is hard from the man’s perspective too though. But the big difference is, being fit and attractive usually isn’t enough. There’s height requirements, income requirements, asset requirements, etc. If an attractive man has a basic job, is 5’7” to 5’10”, and lives an average life, he’s not good enough for the vast majority of women at the same level of attractiveness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 07:48 PM
9	When is a woman too picky or superficial? Finding a man isn’t usually the problem. Finding a man who isn’t either using her or just wanting casual, usually is. This usually becomes down to too high of standards that she can’t match.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/26 06:51 PM
-2	Why do women gaslight men so much? That’s not the definition of gaslighting though. Your body actually is your own doing. This goes for both women and men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 04:02 AM
0	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. I don’t lie my way through anything though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 09:20 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. And Brad Pitt isn’t a unicorn for Angelina Jolie. She could have almost any man she wants. Really bad comparison.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 08:58 PM
2	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. Why would I pay for it when a) I don’t have to? I also wouldn’t want to sleep with someone 30+ other guys have been with that week. And her texts? Which ones? There are over 150 of them since Saturday between iMessage and Facebook. You mean like this text? https://preview.redd.it/0p8nco4h1yfg1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3f75c6b7e1ccc2951c505f4c7799d31907b6017	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 07:30 PM
1	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. You say they change their strategy. I’m just showing you that you can’t teach an old dog new tricks if the man is attractive enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 07:14 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. Again, this is wrong. It’s not about wanting anyone to chase you. It’s about getting laid and nothing more. Men are only dishonest because most women won’t agree to a hookup. I wouldn’t even call myself dishonest because I never even say I’m looking for a relationship. But I also don’t say I’m not. They end up assuming like one date entitles them to commitment. A couple weeks ago, I slept with a women on a first date who I was actually considering more with. Then she turned psycho obsessed with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 07:12 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. I’d doesn’t prove anything. An ego/self esteem boost isn’t a power dynamic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 07:01 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. I’m older than most here and my sexual partners range from late Gen X to the middle of the millennial generation. Today is Jan 27th and since the beginning of the year, I’ve had sex with 5 women ranging from ages 37 and 52. I have two dates coming up this weekend and already know at least one of the two dates will lead to sex. I meet them all on Facebook Dating and every one of them is seeking a long term relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 06:58 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. Not usually. Usually it’s desperation that sends a man to a prostitute. Whenever I’ve done a pump & dump, there’s never been any power behind it. It’s literally just to get off to a woman instead of my hand. It also gives me validation. Especially when I can send her into multiple orgasms. Most women will not just fuck anyone. But when you’re attractive enough, it’s incredibly easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 06:51 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. If any guy could do this, prostitutes, strippers and escorts couldn’t exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 06:48 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. Whether or not they delay sex really depends on who the man is. Rarely does a woman delay sex with me. And after sex, I’m almost always told the same thing. “I usually don’t have sex this early”. It’s pretty crazy how hard women will throw themselves at you if you work as hard on your body as I do while already having an attractive face.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 06:46 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. That depends on how attractive he is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 06:43 PM
–	“Choose better” until that means women wont fuck a stranger. Pump & dumps are more of a thing when she’s not attractive enough for the men she desires. A lot of you are only capable of a relationship with an incel tier man. I know that’s a hard pill to swallow which is why most of you deny it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 06:39 PM
8	Is there less dating with younger generations because they don't want to take as many risks? It’s modern tech in general. People don’t even leave the house anymore. Saturday night, I went to a party in a downtown area I used to frequent every weekend, clubbing and hooking up. This was probably 25 years ago. We used to party until 2am and then hit one of the restaurants that stayed open 24 hours and was packed with people after the bars closed. It was crazy to see the whole area basically closed by midnight. What used to be a huge party spot that had crowds of young people having fun all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/26 06:08 AM
8	Can the average man tolerate a woman being better at something than he is? Well if you’re doing CrossFit, I’m automatically going to think I’m better than you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/26 08:34 AM
4	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? A lot of times, it’s not just picking up after yourself. A lot of women are way over the top with the cooking/cleaning thing	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 01:24 PM
1	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? A lot of times that’s more of a headache than anything. One thing I discovered after becoming single is there was a whole lot less to cook, clean or nag about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 01:21 PM
4	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? Does this include everything? Not saying this is you, but there are many women on a Burger King budget wanting their man to pick up the slack while still doing a bunch of chore shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 09:08 PM
2	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? And do you know why women are less likely to leave? It mostly has to do with survivor benefits since the man is more likely to be the breadwinner. When you’re not married, she will leave you in an instance as I discovered when I was diagnosed with stage 3 pancreatic cancer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 08:58 PM
8	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? Then he shouldn’t have to pay for you. Women don’t seem to want 50/50 when it pertains to money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 08:52 PM
3	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? Oh I’ve been called lazy by the types of women who complain their man isn’t picking up the slack. But notice how I used the word Nazi in my last response. These types of women tend to be complete control freaks. Even when there’s nothing to do, she’ll find something for you to do. It’s like working one of those shitty jobs where you can’t be caught just standing around because there’s no work to do at the moment. Forced to pick up a broom and sweep an already swept floor. The philosophy of “if y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 08:23 PM
2	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? Funny how my place is clean. I don’t clean obsessively and don’t make unnecessary messes in the first place. I also have enough clothes to only do laundry once every week or two. Same with cooking. I keep things simple, practical and don’t make unnecessary messes. Controlling my own kitchen without some Nazi wanting to plan all these complex high calorie meals also allowed me to lose over 100lbs and have time for the gym, six days a week. Instead of chores all the time, I have time to actually g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 07:50 PM
5	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? I’d argue that a lot of women simply want to be the boss and then cry victim when they don’t get their way. I’ve been in these shitty relationships and will never do that again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 05:27 PM
-1	Why should women want relationships with men who don't pull their weight? What does she add to ours? You pretend that children are toddlers their entire lives in these threads and pretend that having kids is something everybody does. I’m done having kids for one, and secondly, I’m not looking for a chore list like I have a mom or an employer. I want someone who lives her life as carefree as I do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/26 02:46 PM
2	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. Morals are actually pretty rare.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 04:11 PM
2	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. These women are hardly deprived. When I pretended to be married, not only was I getting more women, I was getting much hotter women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 04:01 PM
2	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. Because they think they’re special. A man choosing her over his wife is a huge ego boost. It’s a flex to take someone’s man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:54 PM
2	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. That’s part of it. But the biggest part is the preselection effect. He has demonstrated commitment and passed another woman’s vetting. This signals stability, competence, or social value. This effect applies to both sexes, but shows up more strongly in women due to mate-selection psychology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:28 PM
–	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. Anecdotal would mean it only happened once or twice. Not to mention my married friend was pulling just as many women I was while our single friends were striking out. It’s pretty common knowledge and well documented that a lot of women will chase what they think they can’t have. Research the Pre-selection effect. Validation plays a big part too as does difference in behavior as married men are more relaxed and confident. They don’t seem needy or desperate. Not trying to impress ironically, incre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:21 PM
–	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. Oh, a few of these turned into situationships. And pretending to be married freed me of commitment while these women thought I was eventually going to leave my wife for them. A couple others were more than happy to be a NSA side piece.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:11 PM
–	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. Depends on your definition of dating. When I was younger and used to go to clubs, hooking up with women, my married friend used to come with me. I asked him why he doesn’t take off his wedding ring. He said he gets far more women to sleep with him with the ring on than he ever got with it off. I tested this myself after and bought a wedding ring at a pawn shop. Sure enough, pretending to be married got me a lot of hookups.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:05 PM
2	Why don't women just use a chore chart in the home? I know Blue Pill men believe women are wonderful but it’s a serious problem that’s been imbedded in their heads at a young age by their Boomer parents. I’m a bit older than most people here and it’s a huge problem among late Gen X and early Millennial women who grew up being taught that cleanliness is next to godliness. It’s the same with the cooking. Making huge high calorie meals daily with leftovers that are only going to be thrown away. Then as their partner, you’re expected to clean this me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 02:16 PM
2	Why don't women just use a chore chart in the home? I’m not talking about messy. I’m talking about cleaning the same things multiple times a day that are already clean. I brought cooking into the mix because it tells me how frequently pots, pans and dishes need to be done. So not only is it about obsessively cleaning, but also creating a whole lot of unnecessary extra work from kitchen prep to cleaning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 02:06 PM
2	Why don't women just use a chore chart in the home? A lot of women seem to be like this. The biggest red flag I look for is how obsessed she is with housework, cooking, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 02:02 PM
–	The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men. That’s dating though. That’s not willingly being a mistress	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 01:50 PM
0	For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process. Notice I said “most” or are you just illiterate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 10:27 AM
0	For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process. Umm read it again. I said only one is a “former lover”. The rest are simply friends. Understand what it is you’re even reading. You’re trying way too hard here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 10:25 AM
0	For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process. I have never said that,	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 08:39 AM
0	For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process. Except most of my friends are women	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 08:34 AM
–	For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process. I’m a co misogynistic because some random on Reddit said so? And yes women do	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 07:36 AM
–	For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process. Well it’s the direct result of vain standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 06:02 AM
3	Why don't women just use a chore chart in the home? I’m hardly a slob and have significantly fewer chores than I did with my OCD ex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:49 AM
4	Why don't women just use a chore chart in the home? The biggest issue is, a lot of women are way over the top when it comes to chores	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:29 AM
–	For “Men can want sex AND relationships” to be believed, they can’t despise non-sexual relationship activities and the vetting process. Men only need to manipulate when they’re unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/26 11:00 PM
1	It's all prostitution: a new dating app where men to pay "deposits" for women's "date prep costs" If it takes this much effort to look good on a date, she’s ugly in the first place and you’re ultimately paying for a costume. I mean the girl in the video literally looks like a clown. At least my dating costs actually make me naturally attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 05:56 AM
4	It's all prostitution: a new dating app where men to pay "deposits" for women's "date prep costs" Perpetration costs? WTF? This can’t be real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 05:49 AM
1	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is Cool to women by dumping on Red Pill? I wouldn’t let a woman know I know Red Pill even exists as admitting to even coming to these subs is a good way not to get laid. Your whole ideology comes from a 90’s radio shock jock that was rebranded and sold to young incels. Dating app statistics are also incredibly flawed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/26 03:42 PM
1	It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive. It argue that blue eyed people have the least troubles finding someone attracted to them. Blue eyes are a very attractive trait to have. As someone with very bad vision problems, I still wouldn’t give up my blue eyes for 20/20 vision.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 09:02 PM
1	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? In sickness and in health means exactly that though. But lemme guess. If your wife got sick, you’d stay. If that’s the case, the love is one sided.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 03:02 PM
1	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? So marriage vows are BS then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 11:16 AM
8	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? Is survival really tied to luxury though? And what if it’s the materialistic person who gets ill? Should they be content with their partner potentially leaving them? I guess from a survival standpoint, I see materialism as a huge red flag as life can change in an instance. Would that person love you enough to stay without the finer things in life?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 09:15 AM
8	Are the women who offer Blue pill advice on here just outliers or are they modifying their message to suit their audience? Some people can be very nice when everything is going their way. But as a cancer survivor who saw a fairly good life swept from underneath me, other colors can show. I have the looks. I’ve had some of the success. But I’ve learned that people with rigid standards will abandon you fast in a time of need as the lifestyle is much more important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/26 08:40 AM
2	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is I’m not injecting anything. I’m showing how tastes age and mature while people like you want to create the illusion that older women only settle because thats what your Red Pill propaganda teaches you. Women are so ignorant about height that a large number of men lie about it and get away with it. Again. When I was young, I never had an issue finding women and nobody ever mentioned 6’0” as any kind of standard. That came with social media. But by your logic, I should have been a virgin for a ver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 09:41 PM
3	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is No. Not start to settle. Most women don’t even know what 6’0” is. Young women reject guys under 6’0” for the same reason why they reject guys with a green text bubble. Further more, I had literally zero trouble dating plenty of women before this 6’0” standard ever even started. You also deflect with the “dad bod” thing when that’s not even all of us. I train in the gym, 6 days a week and have a really nice body. Gym gains actually get you a better physique when you’re average height due to muscl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 09:06 PM
1	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is It’s even more pathetic to be married and believe in this dumb pill shitp	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 08:23 PM
1	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is There’s a reason why I get laid and red pill people don’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 05:53 PM
1	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is That’s not what’s being claimed. Physical attractiveness is no longer about a minimum height that starts with 6 which they could never point out on a blank ruler. Aging men also have attractive qualities that younger men don’t. They no longer want the guy dressed like a fuckboy. I wear my salt & pepper scruff beard because it gets me pussy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 03:30 AM
1	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is That’s BS. People’s tastes mature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/26 03:17 AM
2	Gen Z online dating profiles have lost their purity because of Social Media There’s no avoidance. You’re obviously trying to defend makeup. You don’t care to dispute my points which were a direct response to your comments. Ugly is ugly. Makeup can mask that, but it doesn’t change it. We don’t want ugly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:31 PM
1	Gen Z online dating profiles have lost their purity because of Social Media We prefer women who look better naturally. There is no yes or no here. Not trying to wake up next to someone who looks unattractive in the morning. Or unattractive if we go hiking or swimming all day, camping for the weekend, etc. Most men do not want a costume. This is why a lot of women ended up ghosted after sex. Because you don’t look the same way you looked the night before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:19 PM
3	Gen Z online dating profiles have lost their purity because of Social Media You said we prefer makeup. We do not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:12 PM
1	Gen Z online dating profiles have lost their purity because of Social Media We don’t actually prefer makeup though. We prefer a woman looks good without it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:10 PM
0	Gen Z online dating profiles have lost their purity because of Social Media Makeup is bad when used as a costume though. It’s very deceptive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 07:09 PM
0	Gen Z online dating profiles have lost their purity because of Social Media We actually prefer women who don’t need makeup to look great. Especially those of us who aren’t sedentary and enjoy doing things where makeup wouldn’t really be an option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 05:43 PM
5	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is I’m going based on statistics	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:56 PM
5	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is I don’t know any women under 60 who watch that. The core audience is over 50.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:54 PM
5	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is I don’t know anyone who watches soaps. Especially if you work considering soaps air during the day. Soaps were mostly the boomer generation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:45 PM
4	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is Women are boring to you because you’re not interesting enough to ones who aren’t. Who in the fuck still even watches soaps? It’s not the 1980’s. You need more masculine hobbies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:42 PM
5	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is So in other words, you’re boring. You’re also still regularly exposed to the propaganda content which is most likely why you’re pilled in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:35 PM
4	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is Speed running motherhood and marriage? Sorry but that’s not my experience. And maybe you would rather talk about YouTube but that’s not most people. The fact that you’re that social media obsessed kinda proves my point. Your main hobbies consist of propaganda machines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:25 PM
8	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is You’re insane and unhinged. Andrew Tate doesn’t care about you	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:19 PM
8	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is It’s not a compromise. It’s about finding other things much more attractive. When I was 25, I didn’t find 45 year old women attractive at all. Now I’m like “holy shit”. Then you have to consider what is more practical rather than a one trick pony.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 04:06 PM
13	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is How is it settling? As you get older, you start finding older people much more attractive. Beauty isn’t just about a 10/10 body. I’ve even rejected younger women in favor of older ones. This sub is so unhealthy. When I see a woman in her early 20’s now, I basically see a child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:57 PM
12	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is If you think it’s settling, you have a lot of growing up to do. I’m going to assume you’re young and easily sucked into these dumb ideologies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:53 PM
10	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is What you find most attractive and what you actively go for are very different things. As people age, there’s a level of maturity men are looking for, mutual interests, etc. As you age, you also start finding older people much more attractive than you did at 25.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:48 PM
9	''Men age like fine wine'' is a real example of a comforting lie men tell themselves, kind of like how they claim the blue pill is Where does this really happen outside of this sub? Unlike the real world, this place is obsessed with youth like every man is thriving to be like Leonardo DiCaprio or some other celebrity with women a third his age. Men do have more success as they age but only because as you age, women in your age group become less superficial. Young men do have real gripes with standards from the opposite sex. It’s worse now than ever because of how bad social media has enforced and even amplified these standa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 03:26 PM
1	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological I’m implying that’s when sexual development starts. That’s what puberty is. For the vast majority of us, we are attracted to people right around our own age. But this is when it starts. So you’re either incredibly stupid or you’re just being a stupid troll.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 06:40 PM
1	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological You’re either a troll or incredibly ignorant. So when I was first attracted to girls when I was 12 years old, it’s because I was a pedophile?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 06:18 PM
1	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological That’s not even what I said. You’re either incredibly disturbed or you’re making a cheap attempt at gaslighting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 05:12 PM
1	Why aren't red pill men actually adapting anymore? Because it would require them to actually eat healthy and go to the gym. But they would rather sit on their ass and post on Reddit all day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 05:48 AM
0	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological There are places in the world where people walk around on the beach with their dick and balls hanging out. So by your logic, it’s not sexual?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 04:52 AM
2	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological It’s an entirely different kind of signaling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 01:35 AM
–	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological I explained biology to you. Evolutionary biologists conclude breasts evolved to provide a continuous visual fertility signal and maintain male sexual interest outside ovulation. This is because unlike other primates, humans have concealed ovulation and don’t show obvious heat cycles. In most other mammals:, mammary glands enlarge only during nursing. Outside lactation, they’re flat and nonsexual. Human breasts on the other hand remain enlarged year-round even when not pregnant or nursing. Neuros…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 01:10 AM
–	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological You’re a moron. Please don’t reproduce. The world doesn’t need you passing out your extra chromosome	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 12:52 AM
–	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological Why don’t you do some actual research? Your ignorance is showing. Female breasts develop at puberty, are driven by estrogen and signal sexual maturity and fertility. Male chests do not rsignal any kind of fertility or reproductive status. That alone puts breasts in a different biological category. This is sexual selection, not social conditioning which is why I called you a fedora tipper.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 12:22 AM
–	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological How is biology creepy? Tip your fedora some more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 10:58 PM
-6	Can we stop shaming men for having a 99% physical attraction "trigger"? It's not "shallow," it's biological Female breasts are sexual biologically as it triggers fertility. The male chest is not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/26 05:48 PM
1	Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategy A lot of people are. You have both these manosphere and girl boss types who both seem to think a relationship or marriage always comes down to money and resources. Meanwhile there are women who don’t care about any of that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 06:21 PM
2	Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategy I’m still broke without resources yet women want me. Which goes against the views of this echo chamber.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 05:30 PM
0	Courting's not a scam, its an effective strategy So where are the abundance of resources in non affluent areas? People still get married. Even I have women wanting to date and marry me without a single bit of wealth or resources. These Reddit echo chambers are just dumb and the opinions here come from people who google the worldview they are after and have little to no real life experiences. I’m almost convinced that half of PPD women consists of white knight neckbeards fulfilling their woman fantasies through role play. I mean any woman I kno…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/26 05:24 PM