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Spreading hate speech isn’t up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:00 AM
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What is there to respond to? This is a habitually Reddit take. I mean it’s cool for you to make up lies and stereotype men though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:51 AM
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This is completely insane. Reddits gonna Reddit though. Fortunately the real world isnt like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:44 AM
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Underground utilities
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 10:54 PM
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I didn’t invent that implication. The harassment point was raised in response to a discussion about why people choose careers. If someone brings up harassment in the trades as a rebuttal to recommending the trades, it’s fair to ask whether they have evidence it’s a significant reason women avoid those careers. Otherwise it’s just introducing a fact that doesn’t actually address the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:02 PM
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Do you have evidence that harassment is the primary reason women avoid the trades? Interest, working conditions, physical demands, schedules, and personal preferences all influence career choice. It’s a big leap to suggest that skilled tradesmen as a group are harassing women into staying away from those careers. Every industry has bad actors, but people act like the skilled trades are uniquely hostile to women when there are millions of men working in construction, utilities, manufacturing, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:43 AM
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Job market is only shit if you went to college to get the exact same degrees millions of other people have. I’m a proud community college dropout making $100k. Keep going to college though. It puts me even more in demand thanks to vast labor shortages in skilled trades.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:30 AM
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Nobody is denying that pregnancy and childbirth are major sacrifices. The disagreement is with the conclusion you’re drawing from that fact. You’re treating biology as though it creates a permanent imbalance that men can never repay. If that’s your standard, then no amount of paternal leave, financial support, childcare, housework, career sacrifices, or emotional support will ever be enough, because men can never experience pregnancy themselves. That’s not equality, it’s an unpayable debt. Healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:55 AM
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Cancer taught me that if you don’t need each other, there’s really no point. The wanting and not needing thing really seems rooted more in convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:33 AM
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I don’t think many people would disagree with that. If either spouse has a permanent disability whether from childbirth, a workplace injury, cancer, or anything else, the other partner should pick up more where they’re able. That’s just what marriage is. The disagreement is when pregnancy or childbirth is treated as a permanent debt that obligates the husband indefinitely, even after she’s fully recovered. Those are two very different arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 09:50 PM
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You’re taking a legitimate point that pregnancy is physically demanding and turning it into an assumption about all men. Plenty of fathers take paternity leave, wake up for night feedings, handle diapers, work extra hours to support the family, and care for their partners during recovery. Saying “men don’t care” is no more accurate than saying “women don’t care when men sacrifice.” The goal shouldn’t be to prove one sex has it harder forever. It should be building a relationship where both peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:42 PM
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Pregnancy and childbirth absolutely aren’t 50/50 biologically, and any decent partner should shoulder more of the burden during pregnancy and recovery. But that doesn’t mean the relationship itself should be permanently unequal afterward. Fairness isn’t measured by trying to “repay” pregnancy forever. It’s measured by both partners adapting to each other’s circumstances over time. If he’s working 70 hours a week, maybe she does more at home. If she’s recovering from childbirth or breastfeeding, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:41 PM
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Except it’s moved from equality to superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:25 PM
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They could, but that’s not something you can replace overnight and they would go years to decades without many of the things we currently take for granted. Skilled trades aren’t jobs you just walk into. It takes years of apprenticeships, certifications, and on-the-job experience to become a competent lineman, power plant operator, water treatment technician, heavy equipment mechanic, welder, or industrial electrician. If millions of experienced workers disappeared at once, there wouldn’t be mill…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 02:51 AM
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They aren’t babies & toddlers for 30 years. There’s also a big difference between helping out and the entire burden becomes placed on you the whole evening while you worked all day and she claims she’s off duty. As my son got older and more self sufficient, her expectations didn’t change. Eventually I just left.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:47 PM
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Oh please. She would break all day. He was in fucking school all day. But Reddit femcels like to pretend women raise babies & toddlers their whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:38 PM
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Blame those men. The way some women treated me when I lost my main income for a while due to cancer, I can’t say I have any pity. I was even dumped over it because my battle took away from a “lifestyle” she wanted. When you have superficial standards of money and possessions, that’s the type of men you’re going to end up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:23 PM
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The problem with that is, women usually want 50/50 with home responsibilities while he’s still working his ass off to bring home the bread. My ex used to pile on big “to do” lists even after I worked 12+ hours while saying she’s “off duty” now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:58 PM
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I guess that’s what happens when you’re attracted to men with “fun money”. A lot of you choose men with possessions over men who are actually genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:54 PM
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What would really help is leaving social media
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:36 PM
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That’s funny considering every American president has dropped bombs on brown kids since before I was alive. And I’m pretty old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:16 PM
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Did you take your medication this morning? That has to be one of the most mentality ill takes I’ve ever heard. Like lower on the food chain than a neckbeard in mom’s basement. Reddit people are a very special breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:23 PM
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You’re not very bright apparently. I’m talking about essential services crashing because women as a whole don’t know anything about building and maintaining infrastructure nor do you have the strength to do most of these jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:18 PM
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I don’t know who makes this claim. The first thing that will happen is all their infrastructure will literally crash. No food, no water, no electricity, no communications. Back to the Stone Age you go. I hope you can learn how to hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:00 PM
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This feels like a straw man. Consent should absolutely be voluntary and free from coercion. That isn’t controversial. But acting like “Red Pill” as a whole teaches rape or ignores consent is a huge leap. Most of what I’ve seen revolves around self-improvement, fitness, confidence, and dating strategy. Criticize the people who actually promote coercive behavior instead of assigning those beliefs to an entire movement. Thats just victimhood culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:34 PM
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You’re making a huge leap from “mothers have primary custody more often” to “men don’t care about their children.” Those are not the same claim. Custody outcomes are influenced by pre-separation caregiving roles, work schedules, financial realities, negotiated agreements, and whether either parent even contests custody. You’d need evidence that fathers wanted primary custody, sought it, and were denied because they were men before you can make that argument. Saying “27% of men abandon their chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:48 AM
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You’re mixing unrelated statistics and treating them as if they prove the same thing. The ‘91% of custody arrangements’ figure refers to cases where parents reached an agreement without the court deciding custody. It doesn’t show fathers ‘gave up’ custody. It often reflects mutual agreements, work schedules, finances, or the child’s existing routine. Likewise, claiming ‘27% of men abandon their children’ is a different issue entirely and doesn’t establish that fathers never seek custody and 27% …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 12:13 AM
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If your proposal only works by pretending family law doesn’t exist, maybe it’s not a very good proposal. You’re describing a spouse walking out on the family, then acting surprised when custody and child support become part of the conversation which is why you ignored it completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:58 PM
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Interesting strategy. ‘Unionize’ by walking out on your spouse and kids until you get paid. Don’t be shocked when Dad files for primary custody and child support based on abandonment. Marriage isn’t an employer-employee contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:30 PM
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Just because you might not be able to find strong friendships, most of us have very strong bonds. Even when I was diagnosed with cancer, the people who were there the most for me were other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 04:43 PM
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That’s not true. I even know women who prefer to be friends with men to avoid the gossip, judgement and back stabbing. “meN dONt HAvE rEAL FRiEnDshiPS” is a chronically online Reddit take.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:01 PM
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If you’re not practicing it while with the person, I think it’s pointless to reveal it if that’s what is holding you back.Not everyone has to know everything. I’m bi-curious for instance but nobody will ever know that outside of anonymous social media. Just like no woman will ever know my bodycount unless she has one similar
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:26 AM
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That’s why people need to keep it to themselves. The biggest problem with Gen Z is they can’t seem to STFU. As long as you plan on being monogamous, nobody needs to know about something like your bisexuality. Quit telling people shit that’s going to get you disqualified
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 11:07 AM
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Nice goalpost shift. We went from “men’s friendships are shallow” to “if someone has poor social skills, that’s a deficiency.” Those are completely different claims. Plenty of men have healthy friendships, careers, families, hobbies, and social lives while still disliking modern dating or struggling to meet compatible partners. PPD is also a self-selected group of people discussing dating online. It isn’t a representative sample of men. You’re treating the people who post here as if they represe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:10 PM
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So we’ve gone from pretending this was a discussion about psychology to admitting it’s just ridicule. Thanks for clearing that up. “We’re laughing at you” isn’t evidence that male friendships are shallow, it’s evidence you started with contempt and worked backward to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:16 PM
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This is armchair psychoanalysis disguised as social science. You’re inventing an internal thought process for millions of men and presenting it as fact. Men often socialize differently than women, but “different” isn’t the same as “deficient.” You’d never accept someone making this many sweeping psychological assumptions about women based on one average difference, so why is it acceptable here? Imagine someone wrote: “A lot of women have larger social circles, which is why they struggle with acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:07 PM
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Plenty of women still want to be approached in public. But the loud feminists want to be their voice as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:32 PM
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Most women don’t buy into this Woke femcel feminism that’s responsible for Red Pill in the first place. Most people just need to leave social media rather than go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 01:17 PM
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Some women will consider that lying as I present a persona of someone I’m not. I just don’t want money to have anything to do with a reason a woman got into a relationship with me. That tends to make things a little tough as I’m judged as being broke, but I know the kind of woman I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:04 PM
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I don’t announce anything. But I purposely drive a 2015 Ford Edge with 140k miles on it and live in an $1100 apartment. I don’t buy flashy things, I dress in jeans & a tee shirt, don’t eat at expensive restaurants. I just let my checks stack into my bank account and present myself like I don’t make very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:53 PM
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I’m not rich but I do make close to $100k. Spending 16 months broke while fighting cancer taught me a lot about people. I was dumped when my journey started, and the moment I was financially stable again, female attention suddenly picked back up. Maybe it’s coincidence, maybe it isn’t, but after living through that I need to know someone would still want me if I lost everything tomorrow. That’s why I’d rather someone think I’m broke than think I’m a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:27 PM
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If I lie, it’s to convince myself that’s not why you’re there. I like to pretend to be broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:07 PM
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You’ve done this crap before where you cherry pick my comments, post sentences out of context and piece things together to push your narrative. I’ll ask you one last time to stop before you’re reported. I was told to do so, next time it happens. You’ve been doing this crap for a year now
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:30 PM
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No I don’t and you continue to stalk my every comment, accusing me of it. Give it up already. I was told next time to report you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:23 PM
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I didn’t say standards can’t include how you’re treated. I said this thread is about the standards that determine who gets a chance in the first place. Attraction is the first filter. After that, treatment and compatibility decide whether the relationship lasts. Those are two different. Then you have things like the halo effect where a man can treat you like shit if he’s attractive enough. It’s perceived as confidence and masculinity. Meanwhile, an average or ugly man who treats you the same, is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:38 PM
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Nobody decides what’s “legitimate but online culture is unnatural and driven by tech companies for profit” Everyone is entitled to their own standards. My point is that online culture often amplifies expectations that aren’t grounded in reality, similar to how porn can distort expectations about sex and bodies. If I spend years staying lean, exercising, and eating well, it’s perfectly reasonable for me to want someone who values the same lifestyle instead of an inbox full of obese women who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:31 PM
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Why did you just move the goal post? This is about standards. Not being treated badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:25 PM
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Of they could quit letting algorithms and content creators brainwash them. Imagine preferring to stay single because big tech made you that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:56 PM
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It doesn’t really get them anywhere though. The only people winning are the tech companies that cause this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:50 PM
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Right. I refuse to be with someone who barks orders. Been there, done that. Why can’t she do it herself if she sees it needs to go out?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:43 PM
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I’ve blocked for someone stalking me in other subs. I still got banned here over it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:03 AM
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The whole banned for blocking someone is just dumb. I blocked someone once due to harassing me in other groups and got banned for it here until I unblocked her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:01 AM
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Instead of doomscrolling, visit the real world. Practically every woman I date complains about men from their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:16 AM
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Except those weren’t the reasons these women complained as they tried getting me to play therapist. 100 women vs accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:13 AM
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Traits less likely to be screwed over? Explain these traits. Because 100% of the women I’ve dated in the dating app era complains about their ex husband/husbands or all the men who have fucked them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:08 AM
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That’s a much weaker claim than the one in your title. Nobody is arguing politics has zero effect on dating. Of course it does. Religion, education, geography, income, personality, and lifestyle all influence dating too. The disagreement is with your implication that women generally reject Red Pill or conservative men because of politics. That’s a very different claim than “politics matters.” Also, your data shows younger people value political compatibility more than previous generations. It do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:35 PM
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Nobody disputes that younger women, on average, lean more liberal than younger men. That’s been true in multiple surveys. But averages don’t support the conclusion that conservative men are broadly rejected in dating. Millions of young conservative women exist, and millions of politically mixed couples exist. If politics were the overriding factor you’re claiming, those relationships wouldn’t be nearly as common. You’re also shifting the goalposts. I said conservative women exist. Your response …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:51 PM
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You really think there are no young conservative women? Get out of the Reddit echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 07:10 PM
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Except you’re assuming there aren’t literally millions of conservative women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:56 PM
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No, I was talking about how I feel and am treated over cancer survivorship. Not your dumb ass posts. Mods delete everything that doesn’t align with specific Reddit worldviews
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:56 PM
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She doesn’t post frustration. She posts superiority hot takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 02:36 PM
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You’re turning two populations of hundreds of millions of people into caricatures. There are men who took criticism and improved, and women who didn’t. There are women who took criticism and improved, and men who didn’t. The claim that “women leveled up, men just complained” is a slogan, not evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:14 PM
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No I didn’t. You obviously weren’t reading what I said. Nice deflection though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:05 PM
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That’s an assertion, not an argument. I’ve seen plenty of women play victim too. People generally don’t like being stereotyped based on their sex. The question isn’t who complains more. It’s whether we’re applying the same standard to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:38 PM
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You spend your entire post criticizing men while arguing that mentioning women is illegitimate. Why is criticizing men considered accountability, but criticizing women is automatically “deflection”? Either both sexes can be criticized under the same standard, or you’re applying different rules depending on who’s being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:34 PM
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Still less fat than even the ones who were rejecting me. But now they want me even with literally nothing in common anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:50 AM
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Brutalize? Fat is vastly unnatural and unhealthy. It’s also horrible for the environment. You’re only doing yourself and society a favor by getting into shape. So yes. It’s unattractive for many reasons not just including aesthetics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:44 AM
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Most women weren’t doing that stuff nor were they heroin starved. They looked like normal in shape women. If this is why women were sexy looking on America, explain Italian, other parts of Europe and Japan where obesity is virtually non existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:30 AM
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I don’t. The issue is, the average woman is 2026 is lowering the supply vs let’s say 2006 when it comes to attractiveness. It’s a thinned dating pool of attractive women. Women calling themselves thick/curvy were just called obese a couple decades ago. And there were a whole lot less of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:13 AM
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Lowly I think of women? If I thought lowly of her, she wouldn’t be coming over. The truth seems to hurt here. The entire point is most women are not hot enough for their insane standards. You can’t be a 4, expecting an 8 while thinking any man less than that is inferior. It makes no sense to me how standards are literally raising along side the obesity epidemic. I’m just calling out the hypocrisy. I mean I’m good enough for her because I go to the gym and make good money but a man who is a simil…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:03 AM
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Not at all. I have one coming over in a little while. How exactly does shitposting in a group with fringe beliefs that stem from mental illness, make me desperate? So by this logic, when I troll the [r/antiwork](r/antiwork) Fortnite neckbeards, it means I don’t have a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:26 AM
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They’re tainting the dating pool. Even the hot girls I encounter I went to school with are now fat. When you’re in shape in 2026, you notice just how obese the world around you actually is as you constantly have to reject people. 20 years ago, we had a lot more attractive women to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:46 PM
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Except most of these men would date these gross women who are denying them because social media has them convinced they’re dimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:44 PM
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Bad for what? Me pointing out that women have become blight? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:10 PM
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Or you spend too much time habitually online. I’m just calling out the irony of women not holding themselves to their same standards. How can you have standards with a body-fat percentage of 40? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 10:07 PM
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I’m just passing time. Just got off work and have a date in a few hours. Nobody is bitching. Just engaging in debate. Is this real life to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:53 PM
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Some men are, but not nearly to the extent of women now. It’s gotten so bad that when I was diagnosed with cancer at a near terminal stage, my biggest fear was actually losing my body I worked so hard on and becoming invisible again. It’s why I was still in the gym, lifting weights with a body pumped full of four different chemo drugs when I should have been resting. Meanwhile, 20 years ago, I didn’t need a gym body to be desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:26 PM
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But I guarantee what you find ugly today you wouldn’t have found ugly head. You’ve been dating 20 years ago. The algorithms have completely dictated what women find attractive now. It’s mostly brain rot and completely unnatural. And now with ever advancing AI, pretty soon the ideal man won’t even be human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:51 PM
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Single ones are rare at my age. Sadly millennials really let themselves go and aged like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:48 PM
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They only think they’re settling because social media required their brains. No different than some men and porn addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:11 PM
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Dow is it laughable? I’m attractive, physically fit, and make good money. Thicc and Curvy are just ways to sugarcoat obesity. 20 years ago, they would have just been fat. Treat your body like a temple. Not a trap house.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:10 PM
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I never married her but I did my role as a father. But I really don’t owe her anything. Obviously if I didn’t play my role as a dad, my son wouldn’t prefer me over his mom. Way to twist my words though. I’ve also raised children while going through much worse things than childbirth. That’s pretty simple in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:03 PM
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The problem is, that’s like 80% of women. Body positivity has fucked up the dating pool. Women used to thrive to stay fit. Now they think they’re curvy or Thicc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:02 PM
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I’ve never had to beg for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:00 PM
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They changed practically the same. Yet these women think they have a chance with someone like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:00 PM
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The only dating struggle I’ve ever had is sifting through the obesity as a man who is in the gym, 6 days a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:59 PM
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What anger? This feels like another deflection. Social media has inflated expectations for a lot of people, just as porn can distort expectations for some men. Algorithms constantly push the most attractive, edited, and successful people to the top, which can skew perceptions of what’s average. These women only find these men unattractive because of constant social media exposure. As a man who actually is fit and attractive, it’s absolutely insane how a lot of these women even think they have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:57 PM
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Except most of them aren’t very attractive in the first place. It’s hard to have these super standards while contributing to the obesity epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:15 PM
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If only they met their own standards. A majority of women already look gross enough. They already don’t have much to work with. If only women still looked as good as they did a couple decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:14 PM
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Going on social media might be your problem. These people don’t actually participate in society. But are far more likely to answer surveys than normal women who are out there living their lives. It’s the same with men. Most men aren’t participating in manosphere neckbeard bullshit. Sadly on the internet, the mouthbreathers have a very loud voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:32 PM
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A lot of things are physically taxing. Nobody owes you anything. I’ve been through things more physically taxing than childbirth ever could be. Yet I still work full time, lift weights 6 days a week and stay athletic and physically active.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:34 AM
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I have though. That’s what you don’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:44 AM
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I’m not talking about you specifically though. I’m talking about women in general. I just find it gross how so many will let a fat, sweaty man get on top of them just because he has money. Even kissing on his neck full of skin tags. It’s like prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:39 AM
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The majority seem to be though. Higher earning men still have an average BMI of 27–29.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:35 AM
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When I work in the upper class neighborhoods, the husbands generally look like this. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:32 AM
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Except I probably make more than you and your friends. I still choose to rent. I’m certainly not trying to move in with a woman in a house that’s 100% hers. I’d only agree if either I’m buying a house if we are splitting equity. Not all of us are desperate enough to care about your house. That’s like renting but with rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:29 AM
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Everybody brings up kids. Yet not everyone even has kids and they’re still this way when they’re going through menopause and are done having kids. It’s also crazy to me how women will spread their legs for men who look repulsive just because he has money. Even going as far as multiplying his fucked up genetics, bringing even more ugly people into this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:26 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:18 AM
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That’s her choice. And it’s funny how my son prefers to stay with me instead of his mom. All that sickness and pain yet she’s still a drunken loser. Childbirth is natural. It’s not some handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 12:16 AM
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You treat pregnancy like it’s special needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:30 PM
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Yea, fuck that. She can get a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 05:49 PM
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I’m fit too but not very assertive. This comes from being bullied when I was young and eventually becoming morbidly obese. I don’t really approach women. But I know how to dress, show off my body and put myself into scenarios where women take notice. Kayaking, paddleboarding at the beach, etc. Tonight I’m going to a card tournament that’s going to be 80% women. So I’m not assertive but I put myself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:13 PM
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It isn’t misogynistic to recognize that the club scene generally isn’t what I’m looking for. Clubs are designed around loud music, drinking, hookups, and partying. If someone enjoys that environment, that’s their choice. It just isn’t compatible with the life I’ve built. After surviving stage III pancreatic cancer, I became very intentional about my health. I spend my free time lifting, paddle boarding, kayaking, hiking, fishing, and constantly experiencing new things. I don’t want my weekends c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:49 PM
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Except I don’t like those kinds of women. Clubs are full of immaturity and alcoholism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:26 PM
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I did go to college. My career became obsolete and I bailed before I wasted anymore money. The difference between myself and a lot of college grads is, I heavily researched my career path. A lot of people who go to college don’t do this. Then they wonder why they’re competing with 200 other applicants for a single job, all with the exact same credentials, paying half what I currently make. I remember one class in particular I took in community college called Life Career Development (LCD100). A c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 09:17 PM
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That’s exactly my point. You’re treating a bachelor’s degree as if it’s synonymous with being educated, intellectually curious, or having meaningful experiences. It isn’t. Every new subject I get into, I study it almost like a science. When I lost over 100 pounds, I didn’t just diet, I learned about energy balance, nutrition, exercise physiology, recovery, and long-term weight management. After my stage 3 pancreatic cancer diagnosis and Whipple surgery, I immersed myself in learning about my dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:52 PM
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You’re still avoiding the real main point. Working class does not in any way mean broke. Which is why I assumed you were just a bot. Now if I make $100k as a utility worker and a woman I recently dated with two masters makes $35k, who is in the higher socioeconomic class? It’s only assumed men like me make less, based on nothing more than stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:38 PM
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Define educated though. I went to college. I’m not doing anything I went to school for. And nothing in my studies defines me as a person. If you think you need a bachelors degree to have engaging conversations, you bought into the marketing. You don’t need to listen to stuffy professors to be intelligent. I’m more worried about how much debt she brings to the table while most likely making less than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:51 PM
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I just made an observation. I said vibes. I didn’t say for sure. I also did engage. You just chose to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:02 AM
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I said it’s giving off chatGPT vibes. From the language used to the format. I brought this up because I use ChatGPT for a lot of things. But way to avoid all my points while going off on some intellectual superiority rant that’s completely meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 10:39 AM
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You’re only assuming working class men don’t have money though. I wear dirty work boots and a high vis vest. Yet many of us make more than a college grad in khakis. But due to our appearance, you stereotype us as not earning enough to be providers. Your response also gives off serious ChatGPT vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:04 AM
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I’m not so sure I would call most corporate, law, engineering jobs to be very masculine. I could probably kick most of these guys asses. These women might marry into money, but judging by the men I see in the upper class neighborhoods, most look like pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:00 AM
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I’d argue a lot of women are just as unattractive, broke and awkward. But TikTok has them convinced they’re 10’s. I just cut another one loose who thought I was going to be an ATM. While she did have her looks and body going for her, what exactly do these other women possess considering the average female bodyfat percentage is around 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:34 PM
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Money? lol. I was unemployed because of cancer for 16 months. I live in an apartment and drive a 2015 Edge. Money? I don’t think so as I didn’t go back to work until June 1st. But I am attractive and have a better looking body than most men even half my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:38 PM
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When they not only hit on me but sleep with me, want a relationship with me, etc while saying guys their own age are too immature, is that still just basic customer service? What am i mistaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:23 PM
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You’re conflating vulnerability with a victim complex. Those aren’t the same thing. A man can acknowledge that life has been unfair, talk about his struggles, or point out societal issues without believing he’s powerless or refusing responsibility. A victim mentality is a mindset, not simply expressing hardship. The confusing part is that men are often told they need to open up more, but when they do, they’re frequently accused of “playing the victim” if what they’re saying isn’t well received. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:41 AM
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They’re much more sedentary than I am. I’ve never dated one who could keep up. And going to the gym doesn’t mean you’re actually active there. Most fat people I see there spend 10 minutes texting between every set.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:39 PM
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Sex is very magical. And I say this as a man with a bodycount over 100.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:08 PM
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If you have the looks, why should you settle for someone less attractive? You’ve also ignored everything else I said and seem to think it’s 100% about looks and nothing else typical of people who spend 2/3rd of their life on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:41 AM
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Most men are. But these women don’t want those men. Some of us don’t have to be. I would still be lenient if I didn’t work my ass off so hard to develop the body I now have. Why would I ever settle long term for fat and sedentary? We wouldn’t even have anything in common as she’s not going to the gym with me, not hiking strenuous trails and certainly not eating at my kind of restaurants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:16 AM
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You’re proving my point by assuming that not wanting therapy automatically means someone is unstable or refusing to help themselves. Those are completely different claims. If someone isn’t harming anyone, why is it anyone else’s business how they choose to deal with life’s problems? Not every difficult period is a mental illness that requires therapy. Ironically, I’ve had plenty of women tell me to “go to therapy” when I never actually needed it. In my case, therapy wouldn’t have solved the prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:06 AM
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Much of what women see as confidence is actually narcissism or emotional detachment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:53 PM
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Most men suffering in silence aren’t threats to anyone. They’re just dealing with life without advertising it. Reddit has turned therapy into a near-religious belief where it’s treated as the answer to almost every problem. It reminds me of how people once told everyone to “go talk to the priest.” As fewer people identify with organized religion, some have replaced that role with therapy. That doesn’t mean therapy is useless, it helps many people, but it’s become the default answer even when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:27 PM
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Court ordered? Sounds quite a bit authoritarian. Needing therapy is only your opinion. I’d actually argue that therapy doesn’t treat everything. It would have never helped my depression. If anything, it would have only made it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:02 PM
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No, I don’t prioritize looks over all else, but looks do have to be there. Why exactly would I date an ugly person when I don’t have to? And if she’s obese, we wouldn’t have anything in common anyway. It sounds like you just don’t like the fact that some of us have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:29 PM
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No I don’t. That’s just your imaginary interpretation since you live your life in echo chambers with the rest of the Top 2% commentators who don’t have a life outside of Reddit. Looks are important but I also reject some pretty attractive women because our lifestyles don’t add up, our personalities clash, they’re not into healthy eating & fitness or they’re just shitty people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:13 PM
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Same reason why these same kinds of women find Harlequin relatable. Relatable also doesn’t mean cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:11 PM
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Nobody thinks it’s cool or masculine. And not everyone needs therapy and not everything is solved by therapy. Something I guess the typical neurodivergent Redditor would never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:57 PM
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If you think we date based on looks alone, I’m going to call you very inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:03 PM
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I think almost everyone is unhinged in here. The men, the women and the men roleplaying women. None of this is how real life dating works.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:55 PM
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PPD is fascinating because people will build entire theories about dating based on Reddit posts, TikToks, and the most extreme examples imaginable. Meanwhile, millions of normal couples are out there dating without ever discussing 80% of the stuff that gets argued about here. If your model of dating says every woman is either a sugar baby, a ball buster, or a single mom looking for a provider, it’s probably time to log off and go interact with actual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:15 PM
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Less likely to be all he’s after. And less likely to be desperate. I’m also not saying don’t pay. I’m saying don’t pay all the time. I personally pretend to be a lot more broke than I actually am.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:12 AM
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Just think about that the next time a guy automatically pays for you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:05 AM
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Men pay for dates automatically to either get ass or out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:02 AM
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You don’t think men have ever worried about that? Like no woman has ever murdered her date? I’m also a male domestic survivor which gets dismissed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:18 PM
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I’d argue there’s a difference though. A lot of people who struggle with weight are often extremely resistant to any advice that challenges their current beliefs. You can show them how calorie intake, protein, strength training, and daily activity affect body composition, and they’ll respond with a list of reasons why it can’t work for them. In a way, it can become almost a “black pill” mindset, believing the situation is completely outside their control and rejecting solutions before they’re ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:00 PM
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Only if you watch TikTok or listen to neurodivergent Redditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 08:44 AM
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That’s not what’s happening
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:39 PM
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Is it really better for them? Dating apps are making billions by exploiting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 10:38 PM
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How much money are we talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 11:54 AM
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If they weren’t actually hitting on me in my 40, why were they fucking me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:22 PM
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I guess it’s weird to me that there are people who would rather analyze sex to nerd like proportions instead of living life and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:21 PM
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Imagine if you focused on actually getting sex instead of trying to analyze other people having sex. It doesn’t take multiple partners to have sexual experience. It only takes one monogamous one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:14 PM
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Get into better paying fields and the gap goes away
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:46 AM
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We’re on 57 hours mandatory but I still pull 65 to 70 because I like money. Winter time I take it easy on 40-50 hours after sticking $40k or so in the bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:37 PM
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My work is very productive. And I get paid well to put in the extra hours. If we only worked 8 hours, bad shit would happen considering my job is critical to public safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:28 PM
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Right. Because everyone in Europe works 10 hours a week and takes 30 weeks vacation a year. How do you even have infrastructure? lol. I think Europeans are working more than you claim unless they’re non essential. Are you non essential?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:43 PM
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Proven men work more hours doing harder jobs for more pay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:00 PM
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You can’t. Statistics show men work more hours and make more money. The only thing women lead is college education. But that doesn’t mean anything when most of those degrees are in things social work, child development and lower end medical jobs. There’s also no shortage of female DoorDashers and Baristas with college degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:37 PM
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Did I say that? No. But usually we’re working harder jobs with longer hours and higher wages. This is all backed by BLS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:29 PM
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This is what most mean. Always talking about “equal partners” while labor statistics show few of you can carry the same financial weight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:40 PM
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Do you have any kind of independent thought? Or just preprogrammed Reddit responses? I’m just explaining what women mean when they say “equal partner”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:37 PM
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Still waiting for y’all to start working equal jobs. I’m on my third day of 12 hours today and only took Sunday off. My ex didn’t mind spending the money I brought in while working half as much, but still expected housework to be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:25 PM
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If you want to be THE OPTION, you need to look like THE OPTION. If not, you need to either aim to become that option through gym and diet, or date men more on your own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:36 AM
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You selectively quoting “so?” while ignoring the actual point kinda proves mine. You made sweeping claims: women wait months, providers get sex fastest, rich men get the hottest women, most men can’t overcome unattractiveness, etc. I gave a real-life counterexample because reality matters more than internet theories. And if your response to people disagreeing is “you’re not on my intellectual level,” that sounds less like intelligence and more like dodging criticism. Dating isn’t learned from da…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:19 PM
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So it means your post is gender war fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:56 AM
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Actually, fucking on the first date is pretty damn normal for a lot of adults. I’ve had more first-date sex than not, so this idea that women universally wait “a couple months” just doesn’t line up with my lived experience or a lot of people I know. And no, I’m not some rich provider. I actually started getting more first-date sex after being put out of work fighting cancer. I stopped even paying for most dates. So the idea that providers are the ones getting sex fastest or that men historically…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:38 AM
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Did you even read what you linked?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:53 PM
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Right. If it’s not artsy, pretentious and extremely cultured, it’s not considered a hobby to these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:49 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. It’s funny how many of you think life is playing out like a chick flick drama series. That’s not real life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:42 AM
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That’s not been true in my dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:16 AM
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Keep telling yourself that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 01:04 AM
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If you say so lol. Body positivity really has a lot of you brainwashed
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:06 AM
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read your post. The issue is that your framing only seems to move in one direction. You keep bringing it back to “men should adapt,” but that assumes men are always the variable that needs changing and women are just the environment to react to. That’s the part I disagree with. Yes, people should improve themselves. Social skills matter. Fitness matters. Confidence matters. Respect matters. But relationships are still about mutual compatibility, not just adaptation. You say if someone is incompa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:21 PM
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You keep reframing what I’m saying into a completely different argument. I was specifically talking about compatibility with women and parts of the dating pool, and you keep converting it into: “men should adapt or nobody owes them pity.” That’s not the argument I made. I never said men shouldn’t improve. I never said people owe anyone attraction. I never said someone should be accepted “as is” while putting in zero effort. What I said was: at some point “adapt” becomes “ignore incompatibility.”…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:40 PM
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You’re still collapsing two different things together: 1-refusing to improve yourself, and 2-refusing to date people you’re incompatible with. Those are not the same. If a guy is socially awkward, bitter, disrespectful, unemployed, unhygienic, or puts in zero effort and then says “women should take me as I am,” sure. that’s refusing to adapt. But what about women who are the same? Why is she in my DM’s and not his when she has not a chance in hell? Adaptation has limits. At some point it becomes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:30 PM
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I think you’re assuming adaptation only goes one direction. Of course people should improve themselves. I’ve changed a lot in my own life. But dating isn’t “men adapt, women evaluate.” Everyone filters and everyone adapts. The part I disagree with is this idea that if a man has standards, he’s “refusing to adapt,” but if a woman has standards, that’s just preference. At some point adaptation becomes “date people you’re fundamentally incompatible with.” If I’m disciplined about fitness, active, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:12 PM
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What if it’s not the men who need to adapt a lot of times?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:02 PM
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Except I don’t have 150 minutes a week worth of chores in the first place. Imagine that. But I’m sure a woman can move in and create them. And according to my ex, 150 minutes would be rookie numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 06:21 AM
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Working has nothing to do with the point. You can work full time and still be a sedentary homebody. I’m talking lifestyle. If two people spend most of their free time sitting at home, snacking, ordering takeout, making bigger meals, binge-watching TV, leaving dishes, laundry, clutter and mess behind, of course there are more chores. I don’t want that lifestyle for myself or a partner. I’m active, out doing things, training in the gym, hiking, socializing, meal prepping simple nutritional meals, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:00 AM
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You mean get yelled at for not loading the dishwasher her way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:03 PM
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I’d argue that most women who complain about mismatch in chore responsibilities are sedentary everywhere else in their life. When you’re a homebody, you tend to create more chores and obsess over them. I’ve been with women like this and our lifestyles are vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:34 PM
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Well words like mansplaining became popular to boast superiority. That’s more than just some.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:24 AM
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Most of the guys here have no context that they don’t actually have to tell anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:56 PM
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Except there are far more unattractive women out there than there are attractive ones. This is complete nonsense. Maybe to desperate PPD men, most women are attractive, but that’s not reality outside of fringe Reddit subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:17 AM
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Honestly, I’d just say it directly. You’re allowed to have standards and preferences. Better to be upfront than waste someone’s time. That said, I personally wouldn’t be the right fit for this mindset, and I say that as someone who has lived both sides of it. I’m a pancreatic cancer survivor. During treatment and recovery, I went from successful and financially stable to struggling. I remember very clearly how differently some women looked at me when I was temporarily broke from fighting to surv…
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/26 01:13 AM
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There are a few truths buried in this that get stretched into a worldview. Yes, attraction is uneven. Yes, some men struggle more than others. Yes, dating can feel asymmetrical and rejection-heavy for men. And yes, a lot of men tie self-worth way too much to female validation. But this whole framing quietly turns “dating is difficult and unequal” into “average men are basically invisible until women settle.” That’s where it loses me. First, the idea that average men spend decades sexless while a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:39 PM
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You’re partly proving my point here. I agree there are varying degrees of agency. Someone bullied relentlessly, socially anxious, neurodivergent, or deeply avoidant absolutely starts farther behind than someone naturally confident and socially calibrated. Pretending everyone starts from the same place is naïve. But that still doesn’t mean agency disappears or that the only explanation becomes “society made me this way.” Where I think you’re overlooking reality is the asymmetry in incentives. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:55 PM
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You’re mixing up two different arguments. First, I never said shy/avoidant men are “bad” or undeserving. I said those traits make life harder across multiple domains if they go unmanaged. Dating isn’t some magical isolated exception. If you struggle with confidence, avoidance, social anxiety, communication, handling rejection, or putting yourself out there, yes, that can affect interviews, networking, leadership, friendships, conflict resolution, and career growth too. A recent example from my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:30 PM
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I think you’re mixing up “good men” with avoidant men. If someone is chronically shy, socially avoidant, low-confidence, isolated, never approaches, struggles to communicate, avoids discomfort, and spends most of their time online… then yes, they’re probably going to struggle in dating. But they’re also going to struggle in friendships, networking, interviews, leadership, confidence, career growth, conflict resolution, and a lot of other areas of life too. That isn’t society uniquely targeting “…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:06 PM
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What do chronically online people have to do with real life dating though? Do you honestly think obese cat people understand anything about dating other than what they read in a Salon article written to monetize off of the engagement?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:50 AM
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Not really. This whole “most men are unattractive” thing feels way more like an internet narrative pushed by both Red and Blue pill spaces than real life. Yes, attraction is complex and multifaceted but not in the way you’re framing it where women are supposedly perfectly comfortable finding almost all men unattractive while obsessing over wealth, status, and credentials like life is an episode of Sex and the City. In the real world, attraction is messy and contextual. Looks matter. Personality …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:42 AM
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I do my own laundry unless you wanna pay for what you damage or shrink. Since you would have no idea which clothes I put in the dryer and not. They’re also not going to cook for me. Again, I eat a very structured diet that’s very specific. Any cheating is gonna be either on my smoker or in a restaurant. Unless you plan on spending 20+ hours in the yard fucking around with a brisket, I doubt you would cook for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:31 PM
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Yes, and so do I. This is about chores and people wasting their lives on them because of their lifestyle. Then complaining about the chores they created. I choose not to live like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:15 PM
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Why would she make it for me, knowing I’m not going to eat it? Women, I date know exactly what I eat and why I eat that way..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:14 PM
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The fact that you even asked, that tells me we are not even close to being the same. I don’t eat elaborate meals. Too many calories too many carbs not enough protein. My meal structured based on calories and macros with micro adjustments, based on my specific training for the day. Morning is overnight oats, then I go to the gym and have a protein smoothie when I come home. A couple hours later I have Greek style grilled chicken with rice and a vegetable. Later in the evening, I have 3 to 4 eggs …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:43 PM
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I didn’t say that. But a big part is. The more sedentary a person is, the more they consume and the more mess they create. Imagine if you had more hobbies. How often would you have to actually do these other things? Sedentary people who spend most of their time at home create more mess and require/expect more chores. I do laundry once a week for instance. I’m rarely in my bathroom. And rarely in the kitchen. While you’re cooking, I’m in the gym or out for a run or a hike. I’d rather have a compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:29 PM
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I’m not going to eat the meal though. That’s what you don’t understand. So I should clean your mess and then make my own and clean that too? Ig If I did all this shit expected, it would create much less time to do things that actually matter. Too much time is wasted on these chores in the first place. I choose to live much more active and efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:24 PM
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No. I’m saying most people, both men and women are fat. I’m trying to explain a couple of things. First is how couples can minimize chores, and secondly how being a man who doesn’t create the same mess as my partners is still expected to contribute to all these chores. Activity level and lifestyle absolutely affect household upkeep. If someone spends more time sedentary at home, there’s often simply more wear and tear on the living space. More meals eaten at home, more snacking, more dishes, mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:18 PM
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I’m explaining why most people have so much mess. When I got physically fit, my chores decreased by about 75%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:09 PM
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Most of this country is obese. Even if they don’t think they are. I’m just explaining how laziness and overconsumption causes more messes that I don’t want any part of cleaning because I’m not contributing to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:04 PM
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You’re the one that said if work is 50/50, so chores should be too. But what if mess isn’t 50/50? You know damn well that when a man creates more mess, it’s always a complaint. Women can’t have it both ways. Why can’t you just clean what you mess up? That’s what men are told.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:00 PM
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I don’t cook food for nobody. I make and eat my own. But yes. The way most Americans eat, it is an unnecessary mess and the average female body-fat percentage reflects that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:57 PM
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If you were creating an unfair amount of mess, why should I have to clean it? Wouldn’t it make sense to clean your own if it’s really about 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:54 PM
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Don’t create unnecessary chores. My breakfast fits in a blender bottle with virtually no cleanup except a couple measuring cups and the bottle itself. What about yours? If I’m eating my overnight oats, and you need some messy breakfast with eggs, bacon, hash browns, toast, etc, am I supposed to clean half your shit up? I don’t cook meals together, I expect to do my own laundry, etc. But somehow I’ve been expected to clean messes I never even made.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:48 PM
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Or maybe her endless chore obsession is getting in the way of everyday life. Sedentary people tend to have more chores. Bigger, more involved, messier meals, more time at home messing shit up, more snacks, more crumbs, more dishes, going through more laundry because fat people sweat more, more laundry yet because bigger bodies require more fabric, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:29 PM
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Everything has loneliness to an extent, both men and women. There’s no other topic because there’s no epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:37 PM
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There is no male loneliness epidemic though. That’s made up by podcasters and media outlets farming for engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:14 AM
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The red flags are there. They go ignored. 100 women vs accountability. I’ve literally gone out of my way creating red flags to get them to go away. They don’t though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:12 AM
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think a lot of these conversations get oversimplified into “men get no attention, women get unlimited options,” when reality is much more nuanced than that. Yes, average women generally receive more raw attention and easier access to dating than average men. I don’t think that’s controversial. But attention itself is not the same thing as compatibility, emotional connection, lifestyle alignment, attraction, values, discipline, or long-term relationship potential. I’m in a different category than…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:20 PM
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When you eat healthy, you’re much better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 01:09 AM
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Men generally do and this was true long before the manosphere even existed. I’m finally at 6 figures as my earning only increased with age and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:42 AM
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Naw. I’m older and come here mostly for entertainment as these takes are pretty wild. Same reason I go to r/antinatalism, r/nofap, r/fuckcars, r/collapse and many other fringe subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:48 PM
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That was proving a point far different from your fake accusations. Reddits gonna Reddit though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:29 PM
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No. I didn’t. You’re completely lying to push you’re habitually online Reddit worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:15 PM
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No I didn’t. You are completely misrepresenting what I said to fit your own narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:08 PM
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Reported for trying to debate in a debate post? I’m trying to debate you and you won’t debate me. Because I exposed your whole post and you’re only looking for people you can pick apart easy. Once someone comes in who can actually debate you run away
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:12 PM
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No. Because you can’t back it up or dispute it. You’re only after low hanging fruit. You wanted a debate, let’s debate. I don’t think you’re capable of a logical rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:04 PM
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I did address it if you can read. I just gave you a whole ass reply if you bothered to pay attention instead of running to the lunch lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:02 PM
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See, because you can’t debate me because this reads less like a discussion about normal adult relationships and more like something written by people who spend too much time arguing online about imaginary ‘gender war’ scenarios that barely exist in real life. Most people offline are not demanding degrading sex acts from partners like they’re ordering custom features on a subscription package. Most people naturally figure out what they both enjoy and build intimacy from there without turning it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:59 PM
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How do you know I wasn’t baiting you into debate? Unless I’m right and you can’t debate. Run to the mods instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:52 PM
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Every day these posts look more and more like they were written by children. Who even talks like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:44 PM
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What’s childish about it is that you’re reducing the entire meaning of life and human value down to internet clout, status symbols, and female validation like a teenager who learned masculinity from TikTok “alpha” influencers. You’re basically saying: “If women and society don’t constantly validate you, your existence is meaningless.” That’s not maturity. Basically insecurity disguised as philosophy. Also, calling essential workers “low value” while simultaneously depending on them to keep socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:12 PM
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You sound very childish
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:55 PM
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How doesn’t it make sense when you’re the type of habitually Redditor I’m talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:42 PM
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It’s just not the flex you think it is. I mean is being a Top 1% Commentator any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:21 PM
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White knighting won’t get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:16 PM
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Start showing affection, chivalry, becoming vulnerable, showing intimacy. Showing something beyond my Gym Bro persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:42 PM
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This is the internet though. Big difference. At the end of the day, your online opinion doesn’t matter. What you think of me doesn’t affect anything in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:38 PM
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Nobody cares what terminally online Redditors think. Especially ones who believe in pills and other make believe shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:37 PM
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But you’re assuming any of this actually matters outside of Reddit like this place is real life. For a lot of people here, Reddit seems to become their entire social framework, identity, and understanding of human interaction. Terminally online culture turns everything into psychological analysis, ideology, and “attraction strategy” discourse instead of just recognizing that human beings vent sometimes. I post here at times to blow off steam. About dating, relationships, money stress, my cancer …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:15 PM
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It only comes off as “whining” if you’re the type of person who treats the internet like it’s not populated by actual human beings with real emotions. Which honestly is common on Reddit because a lot of people there are terminally online and start viewing every interaction through ideological filters instead of normal human behavior. A guy venting frustration, loneliness, rejection, or emotional exhaustion is not automatically demanding sex or claiming women owe him a relationship. Sometimes peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 08:40 PM
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That’s not it at all because I literally get chased by these women. With the number of times I’ve been fucked over when dating and in relationships, I keep my heart under tight lock and key unless I feel I can trust her enough. Problem is, when I finally start opening up, they run. Like they love the idea of a nice, romantic guy until they actually have that. I recently had one calling and texting 30+ times a day if I ignored her. But when I finally started opening up and felt comfortable enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:23 PM
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I’ve had women literally say they like flowers, romance, and thoughtful gestures on early dates. This is a huge discussion in my local singles groups on Facebook too, so I’m not talking about terminally online Reddit dating takes from a bunch of 18-year-olds calling everything “simp” and “corny af.” What I’ve learned though is a lot of people like the idea of romantic gestures more than the actual emotional stability attached to them. The gestures create validation, excitement, attention, and an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:47 PM
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I’m far from spineless. But the flowers and romantic gestures tend to put me in the friend zone. It’s the women I ignore, don’t text back for hours and don’t really do anything for who come chasing. Then when I do open up, they leave too. So I’ve learned to play the asshole as it keeps them engaged and thirsting for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:52 PM
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I think a bigger issue is they believe they are doing everything right, then wonder why it’s backfiring. In my dating experiences, women claim to want one thing, then end up going for something entirely different. I’ve learned that the best way to lose a girl or get friend-zoned is to offer chivalry. It’s never the women I bring flowers to on a first date or open car doors for who want me long term. It’s the women I don’t like enough to do that for. I’m learning that I have to start treating the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 01:31 PM
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When we distance ourselves after sex, it usually means the sex sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 05:56 AM
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How do you not understand what I’m saying? My point is the gains are going to make you a lot more picky. But the problem is, the majority of American women are overweight or obese. Your dating pool of who you are likely to want to actually date becomes much smaller. But the fat chicks will try and chase you like they’re chasing down their next Whopper meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:31 AM
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It very much will. But you will soon find that the women who meet your level are very low supply as the average female body fat percentage is near 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:49 PM
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I’m going to say this. Once a man starts hitting the barbell and getting into shape, he learns the bar very much is hell. Swimming in a pool full of big backs who think they’re curvy goddesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:58 PM
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Am I really worked up? I come here for the entertainment people like you provide. Or is that just an illusion in that doomscrolling little Top 1% poster head of yours? For someone who claims they don’t endorse pills, you certainly speak the language and push the narrative while spending 2/3 of your life here. Nothing you’re saying makes any sort of sense outside of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:51 AM
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As a guy who has run through well over 100 women, I honestly wish I was that guy married for 15 years and still going strong. And if she stayed for 15 years and is still there, he wasn’t a backup. Some of you pill obsessed people need to step away from the podcasts and Toktoks and go breathe in some fresh air instead of the dusty shit in mom & dads basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:44 AM
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If that was true, I wouldn’t attract so many women who become attached and clingy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:03 AM
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Very much. It’s not about the sex. PPD needs to stop listening to these influencers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:29 AM
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This is complete BS. I have sex with women I want to and I’m still incredibly lonely. These pill ideologies are so out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:16 AM
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“Some Men” is the key here and that is generally very young men before maturity kicks in. Reddit seems to live on this bubble where all men are 18 year old bros. But men generally have a much wider scale as to what they find attractive. Women did the same before social media trends took over. What women used to see as fantasies, 20-30 years ago have now become the bar and men they would have found attractive enough to marry back then are now seen as invisible. I mean look at how dumb and superfi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 12:27 PM
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With all the men I see thirsting over fat chicks, this just isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:28 AM
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Validation feels good. The only reason you see things differently is probably because you never went without it. So you wouldn’t really pay attention unless it was gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:58 PM
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Someone being condescending in a debate = arrogant. Narcissism = a long-term pattern of entitlement, lack of empathy, need for admiration, and exploiting others. Those aren’t the same thing. Slapping ‘narcissist’ on every guy who says something rude just turns it into a buzzword, not an actual description of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:54 PM
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Nobody’s defending the weird behavior you dealt with. But labeling a whole group as ‘narcissistic’ and using a handful of bad interactions to dismiss men entirely is just overgeneralizing with therapy buzzwords. Call out individuals, sure. But this reads more like a vent post looking for validation than an actual argument about behavior at scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:48 PM
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You literally have main character syndrome. Now you say people are accusing you of being “unqualified to debate” yet when the opportunity comes to debate, you cower because you know you can’t. Has nothing to do with you being a woman, it has to do with you being you. It your post is meant to be a flex to show off your superiority complex. Not to actually debate. And I’m not even Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:41 PM
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Why? For calling out the 9065496th men bad/validation post this month alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:06 PM
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I can assure you, you’re not that important
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:45 AM
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Most men treat these people fine. The name is Karen for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:03 PM
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100 women Vs accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:26 PM
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Who have I ever said I punish? You said that. Not me. What I said is I casually date. I said the women who used to reject me are now front and center. Women I would have sex with but would never date seriously at this point in my life. I don’t string anyone along. I don’t promise anyone anything. Never tell anyone I want a relationship. If anything, I tell women I’m not ready for anything and if there is that possibility, it needs to be taken slow. But they still push and push, obsessively tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 05:34 PM
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Men do hold those men accountable though. You couldn’t openly assault a woman without other men stepping up and beating the living fuck out of you. It’s also why rapists and abusers of women and children don’t last in prison. And here’s something else that doesn’t get discussed. When men tell women about their poor dating choices, we’re brushed off as being jealous or mansplaining which is the new buzzword to shut down any piece of male advice given to a woman. We know who these pieces of shit a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:56 PM
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You’re not going to read it because you can’t debate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:46 PM
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Men don’t claim this. Only a few terminally online Redditors claim this. It’s obvious social media is your reality and you have no understanding of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:45 PM
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Nobody is delusional here except you. This is what happens when you live in terminally online gender echo chambers. You’re acting like men don’t hold other men accountable, but in real life guys who cross certain lines get cut off, exposed, and yes face serious consequences socially and legally. There’s zero tolerance for harming women or kids. That’s not something men casually ignore. Street justice exists. Prison justice exists which is why men who harm women and children end up with broken bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:36 PM
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Except men do stop him. Y’all just choose to ignore that because it doesn’t align with the online gender war. The men who do this aren’t actively doing it in public. No different than the women abusing their kids or female teachers fucking their students.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:19 PM
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Ohhh got it. So “a few dangerous men” somehow turns into “most men are cowardly, delusional, weak man-children.” Solid leap. Really airtight logic there. You didn’t answer the question, you just went on a rant about how most men are the problem and called it insight. If a guy said this about women, you’d be screaming misogyny before he finished the sentence. The irony is wild. You’re criticizing men for “silence” while actively shutting down any actual discussion by defaulting to “men bad.” That…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:15 PM
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So we agree then. Therapy doesn’t actually solve problems, it just teaches you how to cope with them. Cool. Then why is “go to therapy” thrown at men like it’s some universal fix every time they say something real? Not everything is a mindset issue. Some problems are external. You can’t CBT your way into a better dating market, undo life events, or magically change your situation. At some point you’re not “lacking coping skills,” you’re just dealing with reality. That’s the part people keep dodg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:07 AM
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I’ll actually argue that as a male rape survivor, there is absolutely zero outreach and I was in fact made fun of as “gay” when opening up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:31 PM
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Why is it always assumed people need professional help?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:05 PM
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I’m not saying that’s every group, but I’ve seen enough of it firsthand to know it’s not rare either, especially around exes’ friend circles. There’s a lot more dysfunction there than people want to admit, it just gets framed differently. And for what it’s worth, I’ve had plenty of female friends open up to me specifically because they don’t feel judged, so it’s not like I’m coming at this from some outsider perspective. What I think gets lost in this whole conversation is how much of the “male …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:20 PM
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This is a huge stereotype. It’s mostly women who I could never be vulnerable around. I’ve never had a fellow man laugh at and mock me for crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:03 PM
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I dunno. A lot of these so called support systems women claim to have seem to be full of gossip and backstabbing. Women also tend to be lonelier than the internet feminist spaces claim. I have a lot of friends who are women. None of them are as emotionally put together as Blue Pill people here claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:59 PM
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So let me get this straight. A guy who breadcrumb texts, disappears for days, hits you up at midnight, and treats you like a backup… is now “offering something better than being single” because he made you feel “desirable” for about 48 hours? That’s not “better than bad,” that is the bad. You just described it with nicer words. You’re basically saying the bar isn’t “does this improve her life,” it’s “did he give her a temporary dopamine hit before acting like a ghost.” That’s not peace vs. relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:30 PM
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Umm texting at more than booty call hours after he struck out with someone else and contacted his backup plan isn’t up someone’s ass. You’re seriously reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:35 PM
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Attractive people choose attractive people, average people generally choose average people and unattractive people are usually with unattractive people. Go outside and look around. Pay attention to what the average couple looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:08 PM
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Now of course this is only true in Reddit echo chambers. It’s interesting how many of you have so much dating knowledge without ever actually dating before. All you guys do is debate fringe ideologies in echo chambers. Meanwhile, dating and relationships in the real world is nothing like this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:05 PM
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Chad peaked in high school in about 1987. Why do y’all call him Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:16 PM
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I’m not switching anything. It’s literally a common complaint that doesn’t fit inside your bubble. Dodging the example doesn’t answer it. Does that behavior beat ‘peace,’ yes or no?”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:14 PM
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So breadcrumbimg, only texting at midnight and waiting for days after sex to text again feels desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:44 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:37 AM
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What is being offered exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:34 AM
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Better than bad isn’t enough yet somehow ‘bad’ still gets picked every day. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 10:31 AM
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I can tell the OP has never had a girlfriend before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:46 AM
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I’m all over the place. This is Wednesdays Leg day. I’m going to try and hit my second Push day of the week tomorrow, midday but there’s no telling if I’ll make it. Depends on what I have going on and what my recovery feels like. Could be in the evening, could be at night again. I won’t know until it happens. But what I do know is I hit 6 to 7 days regardless. This is why I fired my trainer though. I couldn’t commit to a time and I was wasting sessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:30 AM
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Gym, friends, family, hiking, kayaking, travel, being a father, etc. Same reason why I won’t commit to a scheduled personal trainer and train using ChatGPT instead. Here I am in the gym at 3:20am because I couldn’t find any other time today. Can I wake a therapist up at 3am and make him meet me at his office? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:23 AM
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It would cut into time for better, more effective things. You sound like a holy roller trying to sell me on Sunday Mass
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:16 AM
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That’s “some” people. Thats not the majority of people seeking therapy as Reddit tries to sell it as religious scripture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:40 AM
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Except that’s not what the data says. A large meta-analysis found physical activity was about 1.5x more effective than meds and therapy for reducing depression and anxiety symptoms. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/is-exercise-more-effective-than-medication-for-depression-and-anxiety So no, ‘nothing beats meds’ isn’t scientific. At best, they’re comparable. At worst, you’re ignoring evidence that lifestyle interventions can outperform them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:28 AM
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Online guitar lessons can teach you basics but you can’t really advance. You also end up developing a lot of bad habits a one on one instructor can correct. No different than a personal trainer. Online Gen lessons can’t teach you proper form.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:06 AM
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They’re not doing it due to the lack of education on how. People are told the wrong way due to decades of myths and predatory industries. So they try and give up like I used to. People are constantly told that to eat healthy, you have to eat like a rabbit which is false. Or exercise consists of miles upon miles of redundant cardio. They try, it sucks, they fail, they give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:02 PM
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Lifting is very much seen as masculine. Yea sone women lift but female fitness is mostly Pilates, Yoga, Aerobics. You can’t deny that. Men seek out masculinity. Lifting. Bourbon/Scotch, Football, Poker, Cigars. Etc. Call it whatever you want. masculinity, vibe, relatability, but a lot of therapists (including many male ones) come off the same: scripted, overly clinical, and detached from how a lot of men actually operate. Most guys I know don’t respond to an hour of dissecting feelings. They res…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:34 PM
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Pickleball doesn’t count. lol. You need a therapist who relates. Men open up to people who are like them. I’m talking more about masculinity. A man’s man. These therapists aren’t anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:22 PM
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You’re spending a lot of time trying to convince me I need therapy and can benefit. But more and more studies are showing otherwise as we’re coming to a much better understanding about mental health. Yet traditional therapy isn’t advancing with this new knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:59 PM
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I see therapy is really helping you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:54 PM
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Sounds as useless as online guitar lessons. If your life was so in order, you wouldn’t be wasting your afternoon convincing me to go to therapy. I mean if it was really helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:52 PM
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You still have to schedule it and account for the commute. I honestly have better things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:49 PM
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Then find me a therapist who lifts and doesn’t look like he hangs out at a golf course or Starbucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:31 PM
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Except I’m on my way to the auto parts store. Most of us post and comment when out and about. If that’s not you, Reddit just might be your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:24 PM
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Except gym and diet fix your mental health. Your gut is your second brain for instance which therapists do not understand
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:23 PM
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With a meaningful level of training, you do. Especially if you also have a job and a life. Therapy seems to resonate with Redditors because they live sedentary in the first place, doom scroll and eat a terrible diet. Fix these things and you just might find you never actually needed therapy. I can go over the science if you’d like. Therapy most of the time is like going to a chiropractor when all your back pain is actually due to weak core muscles and bad posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:15 PM
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I’m not convinced. Especially knowing my problems could never be solved through therapy in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:08 PM
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Where do you find the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:07 PM
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Most people, men and women just need to touch grass. Therapy is just another sedentary activity adding to an already sedentary life where 73% of the population is overweight or obese. Studies have even shown that gym, physical activity and diet are more successful at treating anxiety and depression than drugs and therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:05 PM
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I had been to many therapists when I was younger. They didn’t actually solve any problems though. That was not due to a lack of effort on my end either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:02 PM
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Most people claiming “go to therapy” need to go to the fucking gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:59 PM
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So if someone doesn’t want to spend their time in bars and clubs, they’re “chicken” or lack charisma? That’s a pretty narrow way to look at it. Some of us just don’t want that lifestyle. I barely drink, I train almost every day, and I actually care about my health and recovery. Late nights, alcohol, and that whole scene don’t exactly line up with that. That’s not insecurity, that’s discipline and priorities. What’s funny is you’re framing partying like it’s the default path to success, when most…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:00 PM
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I was definitely still good looking when I was chubby and wasn’t aiming for anything skinny when I was. But the difference in dating success is literally like night and day after dropping weight and building muscle. I take my fitness to pretty heavy extremes as a result. This is because the constant rejection before this lead to a whole lot of body dysmorphia. Despite knowing I’m more attractive now, I’m still picking apart flaws in the mirror. My arms and chest aren’t big enough to me (despite …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:31 PM
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But how many of those are with women they actually want? How many of them are banging 4’s who think they’re 6’s while trying to keep their options open for a real 6?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:42 AM
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The flaw in your argument is acting like “4/10 vs 6/10” is objective. Who decided that? Social media? Because what’s actually happening is men are being rated against a completely inflated standard, while women are being told they’re above average regardless. I’ve literally experienced it. Same face, same person. Just heavier. When I was fat, I got ignored by women just as overweight or worse. Now I’m lean and muscular and suddenly I’m “attractive” to all types. So it’s not just men overestimati…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:25 AM
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Well even $50 to $100 is bullshit for a first meet or dates with a woman who has no intention of ever taking things farther. I’m talking more about actually dating with intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:28 AM
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Maybe if misandry wasn’t so mainstream and accepted, there would be no red pill in the first place. Even if you look at Reddits community guidelines, every group of people is protected from bullying, racism, sexism, gender discrimination, etc. except for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:53 PM
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Who says they’re getting it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:02 AM
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No. They don’t. They do joint legal custody. Not physical. This is the detail the pill bots conveniently leave out. Sorry but this is like debating Chat GPT
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:53 PM
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That’s a massive leap. You went from “fewer men pursue custody” to “men don’t care about their kids,” and just skipped over every real-world factor in between. Cost alone shuts a lot of guys out. Custody battles can run tens of thousands of dollars with no guarantee of success. Add in work schedules, legal bias (whether you want to admit it or not), and the fact that courts heavily value “status quo,” and yeah, some men make a calculated decision, not a careless one. Others just can’t afford it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:39 PM
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You keep saying “facts,” but you’re selectively applying them. That’s the issue. Yes, there are stats showing men commit more violent crime or certain behaviors but that doesn’t automatically justify broad generalizations about men as a whole. Just like we don’t take crime statistics and say “this defines an entire race,” because we understand context, environment, and selection bias matter. Same principle. And your point about custody actually proves mine more than yours. Saying “men are less l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:18 PM
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I’m not leaving anything out. She was convicted twice, ordered into AA, anger management, and fined. That’s all documented. The issue isn’t “missing details,” it’s that family court doesn’t operate the way people think it does. Criminal court and family court are completely different. You can have a criminal record and still be awarded custody because family court prioritizes things like “status quo,” and long-standing assumptions about parenting roles. So yeah, something does feel off but that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:58 PM
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You literally said “Blame incels for that.” That’s not me misquoting you. That’s you taking a broad issue like male loneliness, isolation, and lack of support and pinning it on a fringe group so you don’t have to engage with it seriously. And you keep shifting the standard depending on what side you’re arguing. When it’s men getting screwed in divorce court, now it has to be “generally unfair” with a high burden of proof. But when you say “most cheats are men,” “men are less involved,” “most abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:50 PM
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You’re doing exactly what you accused others of. Demanding proof on one side while hand-waving your own claims as “well known.” Saying “not knowing these stats is willful ignorance” isn’t an argument, it’s just a way to avoid actually backing anything up. And “blame incels for that” is just another deflection. You took a broad issue, male loneliness, isolation, lack of support and reduced it to a fringe group so you don’t have to engage with it seriously. That’s like blaming all women’s issues o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:33 PM
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Bad father? You can’t get another judge. You are tied to the judge in that county. I’m not lying about any of this. She has multiple domestic violence convictions, multiple CPS visits, and the court won’t do anything. Stop this you guys can’t have it both ways shit. None of this should be a war. Men are not your enemy and women are not mine. But you’re allowing big tech corporations to shape your whole worldview. Reddit profits off gender wars, just not in the direct “they charge you to argue” w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:21 PM
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This whole comment is exactly the problem. It handwaves away men’s issues while casually throwing out blanket accusations about men as if that’s somehow “context.” You’re asking for proof of men getting screwed in divorce courts while simultaneously making sweeping claims that men cheat more, abuse more, and abandon their kids more… with zero proof yourself. That’s not logic, that’s bias. And the “do men even have real problems or are they just mad they don’t get sex” line is straight up dismiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:55 PM
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It’s not wrong to call out extremes when you’re looking at this through the lens of someone who actually dates. These takes only make sense if you treat edge cases like they’re common, which they aren’t. And yeah, it is the nature of the platform. Reddit tends to attract people who are more online than offline, more observational than participatory. You’ve got a lot of people analyzing dating, theorizing about it, debating it, but not actually going out and doing it consistently. Then add in how…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:31 PM
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I didn’t go to any extremes. What I am explaining is the nature of Reddit it’s a few of these people touch any kind of grass. The best majority of these red and blue tapes are nothing short of laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:18 PM
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I’m not sure what’s odd about it when these posts constantly take an outlier and present it like it’s the norm. That’s the issue. Of course there are guys out there spending $200–$300 on a first date. Nobody is denying that. The problem is acting like that’s representative of how most men date, when it’s not even close. And yeah, it is a choice, but context matters. When you keep amplifying extreme examples, it subtly frames men as reckless or irresponsible as a group, when in reality most guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:56 PM
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Yeah it throws people off at first, but body weight and body fat % aren’t the same thing at all. It’s all about composition. 130 lbs at 40% body fat just means a large portion of that weight is fat and not much is lean mass (muscle, bone, etc). Someone can weigh less but look softer because they don’t have much muscle underneath. On the flip side, you at 140 and 17% have significantly more lean mass, which is why you look leaner even though you weigh more. That’s also why GLP-1 results can be mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:55 PM
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$300 is an exaggeration just like the majority of things pushed in this echo chamber. Just another way to say men bad in typical Reddit fashion. I have been on hundreds upon hundreds of dates in my life. Never once was ever expected to spend $300 nor have I ever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:36 PM
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We know. This is Reddit where guys are to blame for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:19 PM
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It doesn’t really make it easier for me, honestly. It makes it harder considering the hot girl I thought I was on a date with is now not so hot once the clothes come off and gravity takes over due to a couple decades of fat induced stretched out skin and poor body composition since GLP’1’s also attack muscle and not just fat. 130 lbs looks a lot different at 20% body-fat than it looks at 40% Weight loss meds can help people lose weight, but they don’t fix the bigger picture. Things like muscle m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:56 PM
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Very much so. But again, it’s a very small pool at this age. This is exactly how Reddit debates work. Oversimplify everything, then blame men so it fits a clean narrative. You just can’t find anyone” ignores how dating actually works. I’m pretty sure I told you I already get attention from that pool. But you still try to reduce it to a gotcha because your entire understanding of dating seems to come from this sub. Men’s struggles get framed as personal failure, while everything on the other side…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:33 PM
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You’re oversimplifying this to the point it sounds like you’ve never actually dated in the real world. I’m at an age where being overweight, obese, or just out of shape is the norm and significantly higher than average, not the exception. So yeah, the actual pool of women I find attractive is already limited from the start. Now take that smaller group and factor in reality. Most of the attractive, put-together women in that age range are already married or in long-term relationships. That shrink…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:20 PM
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I don’t understand your question, considering I specifically talked about obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:52 PM
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Men in the real world date. Average, normal guys are in relationships every day. This fantasy that most men are just sitting around lonely and unwanted is something that lives almost entirely in online spaces like this, pushed by people who spend more time debating dating than actually participating in it. And the whole “male loneliness epidemic” gets thrown around in here like it’s some uniquely male failure, when loneliness isn’t gendered like that at all. Women report it too. Real loneliness …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:18 AM
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It’s literally on all the progressive social media pages. mEN aRe loNELy bECaUsE thEy cAnT maKe aNY bOnDS and other Feminist bullshit https://gender.stanford.edu/news/mens-loneliness-feminist-issue-men-without-men https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2025/10/03/the-male-loneliness-epidemic-isnt-a-womans-problem/ https://now.org/blog/a-new-era-of-dating-what-the-male-loneliness-epidemic-discourse-signals-about-the-future-of-heterosexual-romance/ https://www.salon.com/2025/11/17/dont-blame-women-for-mens-lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:27 AM
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No, it’s usually the cat ladies claiming this to make men seem incompetent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:17 AM
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There is no male loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:08 AM
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Obesity. I have no problem getting female attention. The problem is, I find the majority of my dating pool unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:31 AM
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Some men like that do exist but for the most part, we just know men because we are men. Then they will double down with this man vs bear crap when statistically women are much more likely to be assaulted by their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:54 PM
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Are we talking real young men or the terminally Reddit ones in subs like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:20 PM
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That’s really not what I see in the real world. The gym has no shortage of 150lb young men with broccoli hair working out with their hot girlfriend who can probably lift heavier than he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:19 PM
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This whole thought experiment only works if you strip away reality and replace it with internet ideology. In an actual survival situation, no social safety nets, no apps, no validation loops, no Reddit echo chambers, people don’t operate like this. They revert to cooperation, interdependence, and basic biological roles because survival depends on it. The idea that someone would intentionally sabotage the only other person on the island just to negotiate sex later is pure modern, online-brain-rot…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:13 PM
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This would never happen in the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:09 PM
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Funny how the ‘unpaid labor’ argument always shows up even when it doesn’t apply. He’s literally out there climbing poles risking his life to keep your lights on, she had her own income, and she cheated which caused the divorce. But we’re still supposed to pretend this is some oppressed SAHM scenario? No. That’s exactly the kind of case that makes guys question the system. Reddits gonna Reddit though because Women are Wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:08 AM
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She’s not in a $400k home because of anything she did. She also gets significant time off. She’s only in a $400k home because it belonged to her husband while he’s now in a trailer park. It would be the same outcome if she worked at Arby’s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:13 AM
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There is no male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:02 AM
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These people are insane
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:33 AM
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If we can tell you’re with a douchebag, why can’t y’all see it? Then if we tell you, we’re either jealous or mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:12 AM
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Then if we say something about the bad man she’s with, we’re either jealous or mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:20 AM
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If you think women don’t want to be involved in dating, you spend way too much time on social media. In my experiences, they can become quite obsessed after holding out for a man who checks off all her boxes. But can’t seem to understand why we leave considering she’s not matching our energy or attractiveness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:59 PM
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No, they will double and triple down about bears in woods but if they ever encountered one, they would be looking for a man to protect them from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:29 PM
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“You keep calling this ‘uncomfortable truth,’ but it’s just recycled internet math that doesn’t line up with real life. ‘Top 10% of men’ isn’t a stat, it’s a coping narrative. If it were real, most men wouldn’t be in relationships, and society wouldn’t function the way it does. Comparing dating to billionaires vs. homeless just shows how distorted your model is. Relationships aren’t controlled by a tiny elite. And Reddit isn’t some truth machine, it’s a collection of echo chambers that all think…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:38 AM
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The vast majority of men have had at least something. The problem with Reddit is these men’s doomer worldview prevents this. You’re treating Reddit like it’s a neutral sample of reality, but it’s not. It’s an anonymous platform with niche communities that reinforce specific worldviews. That’s why everything starts to sound the same. If your beliefs only hold inside that kind of environment but don’t match what actually happens in real life, that should tell you something. If women didn’t want se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:53 PM
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Anecdotal’ doesn’t mean ‘irrelevant,’ it just means personal. And there’s a difference between one random story and hundreds of repeated outcomes. You’re making a universal claim about women as a whole. That falls apart the second it runs into consistent real-world behavior that contradicts it. So no, my experience isn’t a scientific study, but it’s more grounded in reality than a worldview built off podcasts and algorithm-fed content. If your belief only works in theory but not in practice, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:47 PM
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Hundreds of women in my life is not anecdotal. But that’s always the claim whenever something goes against the words of your podcaster messiahs who profit off these pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:49 PM
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I’m agreeing there’s no male epidemic and why it seems easier for women when deep down, they tend to be just as lonely. I’m debunking the narratives often times used to push back like cLOsE fEMaLe frIEnDsHIps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:46 PM
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No, that’s women in general. I’ve observed this through multiple different social circles. Even my own mom was full of gossip growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:08 PM
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I didn’t get this from TV shows. Part of it is from being a fly on the wall whenever I’m in a relationship. The other part is having a lot of female friends myself. I get flooded with gossip constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:51 PM
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The number of women who throw themselves at me tells me you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about as your worldview comes from these internet ideologies. And why can’t you respond like normal? The breaking everything up into quotes is quite annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:49 PM
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By friendships, do you mean all the gossip and backstabbing? Women are judged relentlessly by their peers. It’s just not said to their face. But subconsciously, they still know their friends are judging them based on the label on her hand bag, the men she dates, the outfit she’s wearing, etc. Women thrive much more off of validation whether it’s from the opposite sex or same sex friends. Those deep bonds women claim to have are often times only surface deep. She will cry with her when she needs …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 05:23 PM
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I’d argue that women have a whole lot more romantic loneliness than they will tell you. It’s just easier to suppress these things with all the opposite sex validation they receive that most men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:49 PM
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Men who have Sex with Men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:41 PM
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What makes you think they know how to tell me how to navigate mine? It’s like seeing a chiropractor. Only helps some people while thinking their methods are one size fits all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:03 AM
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Most won’t even fix your problems
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:55 AM
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Dating advice or not, therapy is very female centric and doesn’t really work for men. It would be like telling a man to see a gynecologist for his prostate. But therapists still see men as clients, using a one size fits all approach. I might even argue that therapy is bad for a lot of women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:55 AM
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This doesn’t really hold up in the current environment. We’re in the middle of premature aging and an obesity epidemic, so the idea that women as a whole are “the more beautiful gender” with automatic leverage just doesn’t match reality anymore. Modern lifestyles have clearly impacted baseline attractiveness across the board. Then you add dating apps, body positivity, and even things like GLP-1 use changing physiques in unnatural ways, and it’s obvious this isn’t some clean expression of biology…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:38 AM
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I’ve never had a problem with dirty dishes from the dishwasher. Being a gym guy, I have a specific way I load my blender bottles and tumblers for instance. But I would never force that way on someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:59 AM
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I won’t deal with women with mental disorders
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:35 AM
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You can’t negotiate with women like this. I keep them out of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:30 AM
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My mom is dead
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:29 AM
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Preference shouldn’t dictate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:18 AM
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Anecdotes don’t enforce Reddit buzzwords.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:17 AM
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“If you loved her, you’d just do it” sounds nice until you realize it only goes one direction. Why is love defined as me adapting to her boomer preferences, but not her adapting to mine? Because that’s the part nobody wants to address. It’s never just “put the dish a little to the left.” It’s that mindset applied to everything. How things are cleaned, how meals are cooked, how the house is organized, how time is spent. One preference turns into a standard, and the standard turns into constant co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:15 AM
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The obesity epidemic says it is. And the fact that I probably wouldn’t eat 90% of what’s in your grocery cart.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:12 AM
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You keep jumping to “frozen pies and chicken nuggets,” which just shows you didn’t understand anything I said about how I actually eat. My meals are structured around performance, recovery, and health. Not convenience junk. Lean protein, controlled carbs, fiber. Chicken, rice, wraps, vegetables. That’s not random, that’s deliberate. I’m consistently hitting high protein. Around ~180–190g/day which supports muscle protein synthesis, recovery, and keeping lean mass while staying relatively low bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:06 AM
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You’re seriously reaching and making up fake scenarios to continue to push your fetish phrase. Because people on Reddit who align with ideology whether it’s red pill or blue pill are incapable of having their own identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:58 AM
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If she loved you, she wouldn’t dictate. The dishes are also one example. Your entire life gets micromanaged. I don’t live my life like that. Life is way too short. There’s too much of the outdoor world to explore without being held back by a neat freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:55 AM
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There it is. Straight to “lazy” and “incompetent men” instead of actually addressing anything I said. I wouldn’t want you even cooking for me because I care too much about my body and health. That kind of blanket statement says more about your mindset than it does about reality. You’re not talking about a situation, you’re talking about men as a group, which is why everything gets filtered through that lens. All your other obsessive anti-male comments tell a similar story. Nobody said anything a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:53 AM
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You didn’t really change anything, you just reworded it. You’re still starting from your preferred outcome and calling it “superior,” then working backward from there. That’s fine if both people actually agree on that outcome, but that’s exactly the part you keep glossing over. Because in reality, it’s usually not a mutual decision. One person sets the standard, then everything else gets framed as “you don’t care.” And again, you’re ignoring the bigger point. Those “preferred outcomes” don’t exi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:49 AM
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That’s you. But I value my life and health a whole lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:44 AM
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“Superior according to who?” That’s the whole point you keep sidestepping. You’re taking your preferred outcome and presenting it as objective, then labeling anything else as “not caring.” That’s not a shared standard, that’s just your standard with a moral label attached. And not everything in a household needs to be optimized like it’s a lab experiment. Sometimes “clean enough” or “good enough” is actually the better outcome when you factor in time, effort, and not turning basic tasks into con…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:42 AM
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it’s not about being a slob, it’s about not instinctively following your exact system without being told. Because obviously there’s only one correct way to load a dishwasher, one correct cupboard for cups, and one approved sequence they have to be in… and if someone does it differently, that’s not just “different,” it’s a character flaw. That’s kind of the point though. You’re not describing shared responsibility, you’re describing a very specific standard that you expect someone else to automat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:27 AM
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On the flip side, I won’t date a woman who uses words like “weaponized incompetence” to control everything in the household, forcing everything to be done how she says, when she says. That’s not a relationship that’s a boss/employee dynamic. Who says you get to decide everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:07 AM
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Sexual preference can be based on anything you want it to as long as it’s legal and consensual. Throwing out the prejudice or bigotry card is nothing short of shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:16 AM
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Cool story, bro. As long as you’re offended. That’s really all that matters. There’s no bigotry in “My Body My Choice”. Or do you think you have the right to control women’s vaginas?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:10 AM
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Statistics are accurate. The CDC didn’t just make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:58 AM
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There are STD’s less likely to show up in a man even with testing. If women don’t want to touch a bi dude, they shouldn’t have to. Or are you suggesting DEI should make its way into the bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:57 AM
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Yet CDC data shows them significantly less likely to spread disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:36 AM
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Wikipedia lol. Changing definitions to fit a narrative doesn’t make it true. Sorta like calling an elder Millennial a Boomer because he’s in his 40’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:00 AM
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A phobia requires a fear of someone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:55 AM
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That’s even worse considering the receiver is even more prone to STD’s. Receptive anal sex is the highest-risk activity for HIV transmission.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:54 AM
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Being bi as a man usually means you stick your dick in anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:40 AM
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Statistics still show it’s way too big of a risk regardless of what feelings say. Vaginas aren’t social justice safe spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:39 PM
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Yet men having sex with men are of the highest risk
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:24 PM
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Condoms aren’t fool proof. Plus monogamous couples eventually like to have unprotected sex. Would you knowingly have sex with a HIV positive person and trust a condom? People would just rather avoid the increased disease risk and you can’t really blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:22 PM
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You’re calling it “hypocrisy” like there isn’t a massive difference in actual risk profiles, when there very clearly is. Straight men in the U.S. have <1% HIV prevalence, while men in MSM networks (which includes a lot of bi men whether people want to admit it or not) are sitting around 10–15% in many datasets, and make up roughly 67–70% of new HIV cases despite being a tiny fraction of the population. That’s not some negligible gap. That’s an entirely different exposure environment driven by ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:00 PM
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Is it that 60% of men can’t get married? Or do many not want to get married? You seem to think marriage is the ultimate goal for everyone. I’ve also been with plenty of baddies while having a belly, working in construction. But if you think your belly is a problem, get rid of the belly. It’s really not hard. A lot of you RP men are just weird, Socially awkward and spend way too much time on the internet, gaming and other nerd hobbies. Then get trapped in these cringy echo chambers instead of con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:18 PM
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None of this math makes any sense which only shows why RP is such a plague. How are 59% of women marrying 15% of men? Must be common core. A man not caring about bodycount or single moms doesn’t make him thirsty. But he could ask Brad why he works at Target.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:56 PM
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You’re trying to guess my body fat to make the comparison work, but that doesn’t line up with reality. There’s visible ab structure, upper body separation, and no real lower belly spillover. That’s not 20%. But more importantly, this is exactly what I’ve been saying the whole time. This is my physique. I lift, I’m leaner than most guys, and I’ve built a solid base, but I’m not maxed out yet. There’s still a clear gap between this and a fully developed, attention-grabbing physique, and that gap i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:13 PM
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Oops lol. Thanks for telling me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:12 PM
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Boomer biker shit” is such a lazy take it’s almost impressive. 25-year-olds were riding Japanese bikes 25+ years ago. That whole sport bike / “crotch rocket” scene was Gen X. You didn’t discover anything new. You’re acting like your generation invented it. By your own logic, that would make sport bikes “boomer bikes” too. See how dumb that sounds? You’re not describing some generational shift. You’re describing two completely different lanes of riding that have existed side by side for decades. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:11 PM
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Yep. Which is why I receive a 3 day ban every time I make too much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:58 PM
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There is no epidemic. This is an internet buzzword used to push agendas. Feminists want to shame men while manosphere influencers want to pretend they’re treating something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:57 PM
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You keep moving the goalposts to protect the same conclusion: “it’s impossible unless you’re exceptional.” That’s not reality—that’s a mindset. At 5’7” I’m “completely invisible”? That’s just not true. Height matters to some, sure, but it’s one variable. Not a death sentence. Most men aren’t 6’3”. You’re acting like that’s the baseline when it’s a small percentage of men anywhere. You’re also proving my point without realizing it. You’re 5’11”, 190, and saying you’re invisible. That’s not a heig…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:27 PM
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I’ll give you this. You’re right about one thing. Getting healthier and losing weight doesn’t automatically translate into dating success. A lot of guys do make those changes and expect everything else to just fall into place, and it doesn’t. That part is real. But where this starts to go sideways is when all of it becomes transactional like you’re doing X to get Y. That mindset leaks into everything. You end up coming across like you’re trying to earn attraction instead of just being someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:54 PM
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You’re not describing reality. You’re describing your own experience and then projecting it onto all men. You don’t need to be 6’3” or some 200 lb shredded bodybuilder to be attractive. I’m 5’7”, around 170, not some genetic outlier, not on steroids, and I look good in athletic fit clothes because I actually put time into building a physique. That alone already puts you ahead of most men. I get checked out constantly, complements telling me how hot I am, girls touching my muscles, etc. And that’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:44 PM
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You think there’s no 25 year old bikers? 50 year olds are also late Gen X. Way closer to being Millennials than they are Boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:14 PM
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It all depends what you do online though. The people who struggle the most are the ones obsessed with gaming and social media. If you only got 2000 steps in today, you didn’t bring the real world with you. You’re barely even living in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:12 PM
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You’re acting like men can’t flaunt their bodies when the reality is most men just don’t have anything to flaunt. I do it all the time. And if you actually look around at the average guy, it’s pretty obvious why this narrative exists. Most men are either overweight or skinny with no muscle. That’s not society “not valuing male bodies”. That’s men not building bodies that stand out. Male physiques absolutely have sexual value when they’re developed. A lean, muscular guy with good posture and pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:07 PM
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I get what you’re saying about people ending up in these spaces because something isn’t working. That part is fair. But that’s also exactly why I question whether something like red pill is actually helping or just reinforcing the problem. If you’re struggling with dating despite having other areas of your life together, wouldn’t it make more sense to lean into real self-improvement? Things that actually build discipline, confidence, and self-worth in a sustainable way? Stuff like health, fitnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:57 PM
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If “mansplaining” only applied when a man knowingly explains something to a woman with a formal degree in that exact subject, then the word would almost never apply in real life. Most everyday interactions don’t involve people announcing their credentials before speaking. What actually happens is the term gets used based on perceived tone, delivery, and assumptions, not whether someone checked a résumé beforehand. In practice, “mansplaining” is usually about condescension or unwarranted certaint…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:08 PM
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You’re kind of doing exactly what you’re accusing me of. Reframing what I said into something easier to argue against. I never said women shouldn’t share their perspectives or that they’re not worth hearing. What I said is that perspectives, anyone’s, can be exaggerated, biased, or incomplete. That applies across the board. Pointing that out isn’t dismissing women, it’s just holding everyone to the same standard of scrutiny. And this is where terms like “mansplaining” and “weaponized incompetenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:04 PM
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I think you’re mixing two different scenarios and treating them like they’re the same thing. If a woman is a true stay-at-home mom for years raising kids full-time, managing the household, sacrificing career growth then yeah, most reasonable men understand that she contributed to building that life and deserves a fair share. That’s not really the situation most guys are complaining about when you hear “she’s taking half my money.” What a lot of men are reacting to is something different: divorce…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:33 PM
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A perspective being “one side” doesn’t automatically make it accurate or beyond criticism. People exaggerate their own experiences all the time, especially when it reinforces a narrative. Just because something feels true doesn’t mean it’s being represented proportionally. You can absolutely have a perspective that’s exaggerated. That’s exactly what happens when normal, everyday differences get framed like systemic issues. And the household chore debate is a perfect example. A lot of these compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:05 PM
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Then why has it been on for 6 months? I can use another example as well. I’m a personal trainer for instance and I’m NCAA accredited. I also have vast knowledge in nutrition and metabolism. The “mansplaining” label gets thrown around way too conveniently when the topic is something like weight loss or fitness, especially if the person speaking actually knows what they’re talking about. If someone has years of experience, understands training, metabolism, nutrition, and has results to back it up,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:56 PM
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Perspectives that tend to be either exaggerated, denial or tell one side of the story, One the flip side, men are accused of mansplaining for things as simple as telling her why she needs to address her check engine light that’s been on for the last 6 months. But if her car fails and she need a man to fix it, it’s no longer mansplaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 01:53 PM
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I’ve never known a guy named Chad who was attractive. That name peaked in like 1979. The only famous Chad I know of is Chad Kroeger and the dude has a face like a foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:04 AM
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That’s kind of the point though. You’re defining BP in a way that makes it impossible to critique. If BP is just “not RP” and there’s “nothing to follow,” then it becomes a moving target. There are no shared principles, no accountability, and no consistency. So anytime someone points out patterns (white knighting, moral posturing, selective empathy, etc.), it just gets dismissed as “that’s not BP.” But those patterns show up way too consistently across BP-leaning spaces to pretend it’s all just …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:44 PM
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This definition kind of proves the opposite. Saying “blue pill isn’t an ideology, it’s just disagreeing with red pill” sounds clean on paper, but in reality that becomes an ideology. If your entire framework is built around opposing something, you still develop patterns, beliefs, and predictable behaviors over time. It doesn’t stay neutral. It just becomes a reactive belief system. You can already see it in how people act, not just what they claim. A lot of self-identified “blue pill” men lean h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:18 PM
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I think you’re mixing two different meanings of “good.” Everything you listed, non-violent, doesn’t cheat, stable job, present father, that’s not really what men mean by “good,” that’s just baseline. That’s the starting point, not what sets someone apart. Most guys aren’t competing against criminals or addicts. They’re competing against other normal guys who already check those boxes. Where the difference comes in is what people value in relationships. Women tend to evaluate men more on performa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:45 PM
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Women who are set in their ways, don’t compromise. And it’s a huge chunk of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:39 PM
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Who decides though? That’s where the issue comes in. If one person decides the standard and the other gets judged against it, it stops being shared responsibility and starts feeling like a boss/employee dynamic. One thing I’ve discovered about women from my own mom to women I’ve lived with is chores can literally be an obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:28 PM
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I get what you’re saying, and I agree, being an adult is about handling responsibilities, not just income. But where a lot of guys push back is how that standard gets applied. It’s not always just “are you contributing,” it turns into “are you doing things exactly how I want them done, at the level I expect.” And if not, it gets labeled as lazy or “man child,” which isn’t really fair. There’s a difference between someone not pulling their weight and someone who just has a different standard or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:52 PM
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I don’t think I’ve waited 30 days for a girl to have sex with me since I was 15. It usually happens on the first or second date. I’ve even had sex before a first date within 10 minutes of meeting in person for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 02:37 PM
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Lose your income and the married guy is likely to end up divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 01:10 PM
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I get what you’re saying, but what I’m talking about isn’t influencer culture. It’s what happens when life actually knocks you off your feet. Before cancer, I had stability. I worked, I had direction, I fit into that “normal, respectable” category you’re talking about. Then I got pancreatic cancer. While I was actively fighting it, I was a “fighter,” an “inspiration.” People respected it. There was support, encouragement, people checking in. But survivorship is the part nobody talks about. Once …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:23 PM
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We are measured in dollars by society as a whole though. If you don’t have money, you’re a loser. Nobody wants to date you, not long term anyway, other men judge you, family talks behind your back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 08:50 PM
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No, that’s not what I said. I said I can understand why someone might feel that way in that very specific, isolated scenario. That’s not the same as agreeing that it’s a fair or accurate generalization about men as a whole. There’s a difference between acknowledging fear and justifying the logic behind it. Because if we’re going to say “feeling safer” is enough to generalize an entire group, then that same reasoning applies everywhere and people usually don’t like where that leads. Can I automat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:36 PM
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I don’t disagree with most of what you’re saying. Getting out, being social, and putting yourself in different environments absolutely increases your chances of meeting people. No argument there. Sitting at home obviously isn’t going to help. But that’s kind of separate from the point I’m making. The way this advice gets pushed online isn’t just “go live your life and maybe you’ll meet someone.” It’s often framed like joining hobbies and social circles is the replacement for dating spaces. Like …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:29 PM
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I get what you’re saying, but that’s not really how it gets pushed online. It’s not framed as “just go broaden your horizons.” It’s constantly presented as the solution. People struggling with dating are told to get off apps and go join clubs, run groups, hobby spaces as if that’s where relationships naturally happen now. But at the same time, there’s also this strong “don’t date where you participate” mindset. So you end up with a contradiction. You’re told to go into these spaces to meet peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:17 PM
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Then perhaps people need to quit giving this advice. Because this tends to be popular social media opinion. Especially in dating subs. Get off the dating apps and join a cycling or run club or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:57 PM
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I don’t think anyone is saying women shouldn’t feel cautious in a vulnerable situation. Being alone in the woods with a stranger, man or woman is already a high-uncertainty scenario, so some level of alertness makes sense. Where people push back is when that caution gets framed in a way that singles out men broadly, instead of focusing on the situation itself. Because statistically, yes. most violence against women is committed by men, but it’s overwhelmingly from men they already know, not rand…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:33 AM
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Lots of hot women and big money men in a place like Detroit though. And people live boujee at a fraction of the cost. Even Florida is full of hot women and it’s significantly cheaper than California or the west coast in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:52 PM
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First, the timeline point isn’t as solid as he’s making it sound. Yes, the Pick-Up Artist spaces were active earlier online in the late 90s and early 2000s, but a lot of the language he’s listing either predates PUA, evolved outside of it, or was popularized later by the Red Pill community ecosystem itself. And if we’re actually talking timeline, you can’t ignore Leykis 101 from radio host Tom Leykis. That was already pushing a lot of the same ideas in the 90s. Don’t overspend on women, maintain…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:16 PM
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You’re arguing against the strict “market analogy,” and I actually agree with you there. Relationships are way too complex to be reduced to supply-and-demand like an economics chart. But that’s not the same as saying the idea of “value” in dating is something only Red Pill spaces invented or uniquely rely on. When I said “every side talks about it,” I don’t mean everyone is consciously using market models. I mean people across the board still evaluate, filter, and select partners based on traits…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:16 PM
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That’s not really accurate. It’s just a simplified timeline that gets repeated a lot. PUA spaces and Red Pill spaces overlap, but they did not originate as the same thing or with the same focus. PUA was primarily about tactics: how to approach women, build attraction, and increase short-term dating success. That’s where you saw routines, “game,” and early attempts to rank attractiveness or desirability in a very surface-level way. Red Pill, on the other hand, evolved into more of a broader frame…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:12 PM
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The whole “top 10% income = high value man” argument falls apart the second you apply real-world context. First, “top 10%” in the U.S. starts around $170k–$180k individual income. But that number is meaningless without location. In a place like Los Angeles or much of Southern California, that income gets eaten alive by cost of living, especially housing, taxes, and insurance. Median home prices are pushing $800k–$1M+, and rent is often 2–3x higher than in Midwest cities. Meanwhile, in Metro Detr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:31 PM
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You didn’t but that seems to be the vibe in this sub. I personally don’t understand the PPD obsession is with hot rich people though. And this goes for all sides. Could it be because this generation of young people dating grew up on reality television which isn’t even rooted in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:04 PM
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This idea that red pill invented “high value men” is already off. Every side talks about it. The difference is just how it’s used sometimes to explain dating, other times to shame men who aren’t making enough money. But the bigger problem is the fantasy that gets pushed alongside it. There’s this narrative that if a man cracks the top 10% in income, he suddenly unlocks the entire dating pool. Like he can just pick any woman he wants and lock her down long term regardless of background, lifestyle…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:51 PM
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If you have to invent my position to respond to it, you don’t really have a point. I didn’t say that at all. You just reframed it into something easier to attack. That’s kind of what happens in these echo chambers. People respond to what they pretend you said instead of what actually was.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:55 PM
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That’s not an argument, it’s a caricature. Nobody said ‘treat women however we want.’ You just replaced what I said with something easier to mock. That kind of oversimplification is exactly the point I was making, turning the other side into a cartoon instead of engaging with what’s actually being said. People who are fulfilled in real life don’t spend their time in online echo chambers taking shots at entire groups. That behavior kind of contradicts the ‘happily married’ claim. And who in the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:44 PM
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So by your logic, as long as a group can point to “lived experience” or statistics, it’s fair to generalize the entire group? Because that standard gets real uncomfortable real fast. You wouldn’t accept someone saying they’re more afraid of a random Black man because of crime statistics. You’d immediately recognize that as unfair generalization, even if they tried to dress it up as “just their experience.” Same thing if someone said they trust women less around kids because women commit a large …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:05 AM
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That’s the framing now, but that’s not how it was actually used when it went viral. It wasn’t just “which is scarier in a vacuum.” It turned into a broader claim about men as a group being more dangerous than a wild animal. That’s why it blew up the way it did. Because it stops being about a hypothetical and starts being a statement about men in general. And saying “most men would choose the bear” doesn’t really land the way you think it does. Men understand that a bear is dangerous but it’s a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:21 AM
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That’s actually a much more reasonable way to frame it and it kind of proves the point people were pushing back on. Nobody is arguing that women should feel totally comfortable around a random man in an isolated environment. Of course there’s going to be caution there. Men feel that too in certain situations, it’s just called basic risk awareness. But notice what you did there: you immediately narrowed it from “man” to “random man I don’t know.” That’s a huge distinction. Because the original ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:17 AM
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It’s been mainstream for about a decade now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:59 PM
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You’re doing two things here. Mixing valid points with exaggerations, and then dismissing everything on the other side as “looney toons.” On the first part: yeah, a lot of women have experienced inappropriate attention at a young age. That’s real, and nobody reasonable is denying that. But jumping from that to “therefore choosing a bear over a man is rational” is where it becomes an overreach. You’re taking a serious issue and stretching it into a blanket conclusion about all men. I got a blowjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:18 PM
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You’re acting like one side’s generalizations are automatically grounded in reality and the other side’s are inherently invalid, and that’s the exact bias I’m talking about. Plenty of men’s views are based on lived experience too. Dating, rejection patterns, app dynamics, relationship outcomes. Not just “things they heard online.” Writing that off as internet ideology while validating women’s experiences as truth is a double standard. And the “women choose the bear because of lived experience” p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:17 PM
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When people say certain generalizations are “institutionally supported,” what they’re really pointing to is a broader cultural and ideological tilt. Not some coordinated effort, but a pattern in how ideas get framed and reinforced. A lot of modern institutions: media, academia, corporate messaging, tend to operate within a worldview that focuses on power dynamics, inequality, and historical imbalances. Within that lens, women are often framed as a protected or disadvantaged group, while men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:41 AM
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This is one of those posts that criticizes generalization while doing the exact same thing. You’re saying men in RP spaces reduce women to simple boxes but then you reduce those men to “they’re threatened,” “they want control,” and “they don’t understand women.” That’s not deeper thinking, it’s just flipping the target. A big piece that gets ignored is that a lot of the women being discussed are doing the exact same thing to men. When you have trends like “man vs bear,” or constant messaging tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:15 AM
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And many do. But in my 50 years in life, nobody has even threatened me with a weapon. But at the some time, the only time an assault ever landed me in the hospital, it was at the hands of a woman who knew I don’t hit women even in self defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:59 PM
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People keep reducing loneliness to ‘just make more friends’ or ‘get a relationship’ like that solves it. That’s not how it works. I’ve got friends. I don’t struggle getting attention from women either. That’s not the issue. I went through pancreatic cancer, whipple surgery and a lot of chemo. On paper, I’m ‘fine.’ In reality, it’s permanent digestive issues, constant monitoring, and living in a completely different body than I used to. There’s also a level of mourning your old life that people d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:49 PM
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I have lots of friends. I’m still lonely as fuck. Loneliness isn’t always about how many people are around you. I keep myself busy all day but eventually have to face it. Im so sick of people, especially women saying men are only lonely because they lack friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:53 AM
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You’re framing this like it’s a neutral decision, but it’s not. Buying shoes and dating aren’t comparable. If you don’t find pink heels, nothing happens. You lose nothing, you just wait. In dating, time is part of the equation whether you want to acknowledge it or not. It for most women, all it takes is a viral TikTok to want those pink heels like everyone who went completely apeshit over those Stanley cups a couple years ago that were previously just sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Or how…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:55 AM
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That analogy actually highlights the issue more than it defends it. It’s not that the store doesn’t have pink heels, it’s that after being exposed to endless curated options online, your standards become so narrow that normal, realistic options don’t even register anymore. So you walk out thinking “nothing was good enough,” when in reality there were plenty of solid options. You’ve just trained yourself to only recognize a very specific, idealized version. That’s what the internet and apps do. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:34 AM
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That’s not an argument, that’s just you being dismissive because you don’t have a response. You tried the “you’re lazy,” “you don’t approach,” and “just try harder” angles already, and none of that actually addressed what I said. So now it’s just “you have a losing attitude.” That’s not engaging, that’s deflecting. Nothing I said implies I’m struggling. I’m doing fine. This isn’t even about me. The point was about how the environment has changed, not my personal situation. This is coming from so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:47 AM
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You’re not actually arguing the point. You’re just trying to pivot into personal attacks. Nitpicking “30% vs 40%” doesn’t change anything. It’s still the most common way people meet, which means the landscape objectively shifted. Focusing on the exact number is just a way to dodge that. It’s 30-40% depending on the study. And this whole “you must not approach women” angle is just an assumption you made up to avoid engaging with what I said. Acknowledging that the environment changed isn’t the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:35 AM
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This is honestly an outdated take. “Just go approach women” ignores how much the environment has changed. Yes, bars exist, but people don’t use them the same way anymore. When 30–40% of couples are meeting online, that’s not “people being lazy,” that’s a complete shift in where dating actually happens. And your 10% number is just flat out wrong. That might’ve been true years ago, but it hasn’t been for a long time. Saying apps just made people lazy is also missing the point. They didn’t just red…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:22 AM
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You mean like we already did for decades before apps and social media rewired everything? This idea that men just suddenly became too scared to approach is lazy. The bigger shift is that the environments where people naturally met have been hollowed out. There’s actual data on this. Around 40%+ of couples now meet online, which is a massive jump from basically nothing 20–25 years ago. At the same time, fewer people are going out socially—bar attendance, clubbing, and even general in-person socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:21 AM
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This entire thing could be solved if we could abolish the dating app industry which is primarily owned by a single company.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:38 AM
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This is one of the most backwards, insecurity-driven takes I’ve seen in a while. You’ve built an entire worldview where a man’s worth is measured by how easily he gets sex, and then used that to justify why men should sleep with as many women as possible. That’s not insight. That’s just validation seeking with extra steps. You’re also completely flipping cause and effect. Men who are attractive, confident, and socially successful tend to have more options. That doesn’t mean racking up bodies cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:14 PM
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What’s really driving a lot of these takes isn’t just ‘accepting reality,’ it’s coping and validation. Saying ‘life isn’t fair’ sounds like insight, but it often functions as a psychological shortcut. It lets people resolve frustration or repeated negative outcomes without having to actually examine why those patterns keep happening. Instead of asking what’s going wrong or what could be adjusted, the answer becomes ‘that’s just how it is,’ and the conversation ends there. It also protects self-i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:15 PM
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These posts always come off less like insight and more like a way to feel intellectually above everyone else. Nobody thinks dating is some perfectly balanced system where everyone gets equal outcomes. What people are actually pointing out is that the same behaviors get framed completely differently depending on who’s doing them. When women describe their preferences, it’s ‘biology’ and ‘reality.’ When men point out patterns, it’s ‘entitlement’ or ‘cope.’ And if we’re being honest, dating doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 01:51 PM
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A lot of us do nothing and get results though. Here’s what a lot of women seem to miss. A lot of men are pursuing you based on being thirsty, desperate or just unable to be alone. Then there’s people like me. I want a woman but don’t need a woman. I don’t go out persuing it unless I’m trying to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:57 PM
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“Retroactive jealousy” is a convenient little buzzword you just discovered in therapy. Super catchy… also really fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:02 PM
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Nobody is arguing that women “owe” men specific sex acts. That’s a strawman. But the part that keeps getting ignored is that men don’t owe women anything either. Not just commitment, but also the extras that usually come with it: chivalry, romance, protection, provision, fixing things around the house, planning dates, emotional labor, all of it. You don’t get to say “I don’t owe you sexual enthusiasm” while still expecting the full boyfriend/husband experience in return. It goes both ways. And w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:53 PM
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You literally live inside of an echo chamber. You’re like ChatGPT with a heartbeat. All these takes you have are nothing more than gender war narrative. Looks are subjective and people are attracted to very diverse things. You’re also assuming that all very attractive women either have a lot of money or are looking for a lot of money. Even in poor communities, you very attractive women dating and married to men of similar incomes, men without jobs, etc. I’ve dated a few dimes in my day, broke as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:18 AM
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You’re projecting dating app behavior onto men and acting like it’s universal reality. In real life, most couples are looksmatched. Men don’t just chase the “top %” and then settle out of desperation. Most are genuinely attracted to women around their own level and form relationships there all the time. The fact that men will also sleep with a wider range doesn’t erase that. It just means sexual standards and relationship standards aren’t identical. You’re forcing everything into “top tier vs de…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:23 AM
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That’s almost never the case here. And a lot of times, just stating why you have preferences makes you an asshole. I have to argue my preferences here pretty regularly. And almost always, I’m accused of being shallow and wanting some hot 20 year old who I can manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:58 PM
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I think the reason you hear about it less is because people eventually realized something simple: men are allowed to have dating preferences too. When women say they don’t want to date unemployed men, short men, men who live with roommates, men with kids, or men who can’t provide the lifestyle they want, nobody frames that as “hate.” It’s just called standards. But when men say they’d prefer not to date a single mother because of the added responsibilities and complications that come with steppi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:35 PM
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That’s not really the point though. The issue isn’t whether I personally feel targeted. The issue is that you made a broad claim about “men” and then built an argument around that claim. Once you generalize about a group, people in that group questioning the premise is completely fair. “If it doesn’t apply to you, just move on” is basically a way to shield a generalization from criticism. By that logic, anyone could make sweeping claims about any group and then dismiss pushback by saying “well i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:30 PM
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The problem with this post is that it builds its entire argument on a premise that isn’t actually representative of what most people say. It starts with the claim that “men claim to be superior to women” and then constructs a logical trap around that idea. But most men don’t go around claiming men are universally smarter, more honest, or more logical than women as a blanket rule. That’s a caricature of an extreme position. Once you start with a strawman like that, it’s easy to construct a clever…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:03 PM
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Yes it would
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:07 AM
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That argument actually skips over the biggest filter in the entire process: who gets matched in the first place. Men can swipe right on 60–80% of profiles, but none of that matters unless the woman also swipes right. The overwhelming majority of men never even reach the messaging stage because they’re filtered out before a match happens. Most of the large dating-app datasets show the same pattern: women swipe right on a very small percentage of men compared to how often men swipe right on women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:52 AM
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You’re kind of contradicting your own argument here. Earlier you were arguing that men are repulsed by most women, and now you’re arguing men will sleep with almost anyone just to “get their dicks wet.” Those two claims can’t both be true at the same time. The whole reason swipe patterns look the way they do is because men generally have a broader attraction range. That doesn’t mean men only want the “top 20%” of women. It means men are more likely to find a wider range of women attractive enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:51 PM
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That’s not how most dates go. Now you’re just being cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:08 PM
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I have 15% body fat and a good body. I also have blue eyes and an attractive face. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be flooded with attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:22 PM
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Pumping & dumping happens after she misrepresented herself in her photos to get the date. And this isn’t always even noticeable until the clothes come off. Other studies exist here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11357504/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39203715/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Meanwhile only 26% of Americans are normal weight according to the BMI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage 40% of women are obese according to BMI https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:09 PM
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Only because you live in this echo chamber called PPD where every man wants a woman who is 25. There’s nothing bitter or vindictive about wanting someone close to my same level of attractiveness and physical shape. I wanted the same thing, 5 years ago when I was fat. A woman similar to myself at the time. I didn’t put all this time, money and effort into my body to end up with a woman who sees me as eye candy but can’t put in matching effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:56 PM
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This went on through my mid 30’s until I settled down for over a decade. I entered the dating market again at 44. Everything was different because of apps and social media. Nothing was different about me besides being a little older. And I was still interested in women my own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:39 PM
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Medically, they are. And who said anything about mistreating? Obviously this will be unpopular on Reddit because most of you are sedentary and out of shape. You think this is normal life. But it’s exactly why Europeans laugh at us as a country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:35 PM
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You’re building a picture of men that doesn’t really match how most men actually behave in the dating market. Most men absolutely can have a type, but the key difference is that men tend to have a much wider attraction range. Having preferences isn’t the same thing as only wanting the top slice of women. When people say men “can’t afford to have a type,” what they usually mean is that men generally don’t filter out 80% of the opposite sex the way women statistically tend to on dating apps. A guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:33 PM
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Guys as depicted in revenge of the nerds was pretty rare back then. It was a fictional movie. Not a documentary. Back then, every average Joe could find a girlfriend very easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:25 PM
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Normal weight obese is a real medical condition. It comes from not lifting weights or eating adequate protein. There is nothing skewed about that. A BMI of 22 looks a lot different at 20% body fat than it looks at 40% body fat. Any body-fat percentage of 32 or above for women is medically obese regardless of what the scale says.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:22 PM
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I grew up before the internet too. I didn’t have to workout and could work a $7 an hour service industry job in the 90’s. I never stayed single. If we broke up, I had a new girlfriend in a week. Hell. Even when a girl I dated for 5 years until 2002 broke up with me. I had a new girlfriend in only 5 hours from a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:13 PM
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Average meals now are $20 each minimum most places. Now add appetizer, drinks and tip.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:08 PM
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Did you even read what I said? Obviously on easy mode, I wouldn’t be messing with fat girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:03 PM
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What does adapting require in a world where standards are through the roof? If we woke up tomorrow and dating apps and social media in general was no longer a thing, we would see the dynamics completely change. Even as an attractive man who is physically fit and does get dates and women interested in me. I’m still playing the game on hard mode. This is as a man who is above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:08 PM
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I don’t know what world you live in but the shit is getting expensive now. It’s getting to the point now where it costs $100+ for a simple date. I watched a news story a while back that showed men increasing going into credit card debt, trying to survive in today’s dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:38 PM
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If you didn’t feel this way, you never would have been lured into this sub or ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:16 PM
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What you’re describing is basically just a softer way of saying the same thing people mean when they talk about the 80/20 dynamic. You’re saying the top men are “greyed out” and not part of your dating pool, but you also say that within the pool that’s left you still find most men unattractive. Functionally, that leads to the exact same outcome: a very small percentage of men are considered acceptable. The reason people bring this up isn’t to complain that women aren’t attracted to everyone. Nob…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:59 AM
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Considering the average woman has a body like Shrek, maybe she is in a swamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:36 AM
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What you consider high effort is often times rooted in desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:31 AM
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I have no money. It hasn’t stopped me from quite a few pump & dumps
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:28 AM
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Then why are you even here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:43 AM
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The internet made you feel this way. You’re a victim of your own algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:29 AM
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The solution is to get off of social media and back to reality. Date the people you would have dated before influencers and dating apps raised your standards way above your own leagues. Without big tech influence, most women would be completely happy with the men they are rejecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:28 AM
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You’re misunderstanding the point I’m making. I’m not saying every bigger woman or every man behaves the same way. I’m talking about a pattern that shows up constantly in dating discussions: people repeatedly complaining that the type of partner they want keeps treating them poorly or not committing. If someone genuinely wants to wait indefinitely for the exact person they want and they’re content with that, then sure, that’s their choice. But that’s usually not what the complaints are about. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:42 PM
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Chicken isn’t unhealthy either. But most choose to deep fry it to make it that way. That’s why a grilled chicken wrap is healthy and a Popeyes chicken sandwich will kill you. When most people eat shell fish, it’s butter drenched.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:03 PM
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What they’re consistently complaining about is men constantly fucking them over. Ghosting them after sex, etc. A lot of attractive men see these women as an easy lay. Others still go through with sex after she misrepresented her body on the dating app. Either hid her fat through camera angles, or she only looks good with clothes on. So the analogy here is showing up at a 5 star restaurant with a check that’s going to bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:34 PM
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What part of that is misogyny exactly? The point I’m making isn’t “women bad.” The point is that unrealistic standards exist in modern dating and they get applied unevenly. If someone expects a partner who is fit, disciplined, financially stable, and put together, it’s not unreasonable to ask whether they bring those same qualities themselves. The food analogy was just a way of illustrating expectations versus reality. Wanting filet mignon is fine, but if your budget is Applebee’s then you eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 07:28 PM
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It needs to be in your budget though. A lot of these women want filet mignon on a Applebees budget. And this includes their dating preferences. It’s absolutely crazy to me how there is a loneliness epidemic right in the middle of an obesity epidemic. Meanwhile as someone who is fit, muscular, healthy and eats a lot of chicken and cheaper fish because it’s much more protein dense than lobster, these fat girls sure love to chase me while not giving their equally gelatinous male counterparts the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:34 PM
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You’re missing the point of the analogy. I’m not arguing lobster is unhealthy. I’m saying it’s a luxury food, not a practical staple for most people. Chicken is cheap, versatile, and accessible almost everywhere. Lobster might be cheaper in some coastal places, but for most people it’s still treated like a special occasion meal. The same goes for things like wagyu beef or filet mignon. Technically healthy sources of protein, but they’re expensive and not something people eat daily. Should I use …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:28 PM
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Lobster might be healthy, but it’s completely unnecessary unless you’re rolling in extra money. Most people who eat lobster also saturate it in butter anyway. I can use chicken, rice and veggies however in various dishes like stirfry, wraps, salads, fajitas, kabob and shawarma and eat my high protein bodybuilder diet for $60 to $80 a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:03 PM
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The grocery store analogy actually proves the opposite point to me. It’s not that healthy options are hidden and junk food is everywhere. The healthy option is sitting right there in plain sight. Chicken, rice, and vegetables. The problem is that chicken isn’t glamorous. It doesn’t feel special the way lobster does. So people overlook the simple, reliable option because it seems boring compared to something that feels more exciting or prestigious in the moment. That doesn’t mean the healthy opti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:40 PM
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If women are the ones moralizing men’s preferences, that doesn’t contradict my point. it reinforces it. The argument is about the double standard in how preferences get judged, not about which gender is doing the judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:49 AM
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The “secret council” line was obviously sarcasm. My point wasn’t that women coordinate standards. it’s that men’s preferences are far more likely to get moralized. A woman wanting a tall, wealthy, confident man is framed as empowerment. A man wanting a fit partner often gets framed as shallow or oppressive. Muh patriarchy.. That double standard is the entire point. You’re using a common debate tactic called “literalizing satire.” Instead of addressing your actual claim (double standards) you foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:28 AM
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Sure, tone matters. If someone is calling women “disgusting fat bitches” or insulting single mothers, they’re obviously going to get dragged and rightly so. Basic decency applies to everyone. But that’s not the only time it happens. I’ve personally been dragged for standards while saying nothing even remotely like that. I’ve been criticized simply for saying I prefer someone fit, or even just for being in shape myself and having standards at all. The assumption quickly becomes “vain gym bro,” sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:12 PM
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I I don’t think that’s nearly as homogeneous as you’re suggesting. For example, I personally have no issue dating single moms. I’ve dated several and even helped raise someone else’s child as my own. As for “hot”. That’s subjective. What I find attractive isn’t always what someone else does. And yes, I prefer a woman smaller than me. I’m 5’7”, around 170 lbs, physically fit and fairly muscular. Wanting a partner who’s smaller than I am isn’t some extreme standard. It’s pretty comparable to the v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:25 PM
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Most men go to the gym for general fitness. The male version of plastic surgery is called anabolic steroids
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:50 AM
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Except men generally aren’t saying women aren’t allowed to want what they want. What people push back on is when someone insists their standards should guarantee the outcome they want. Those are two different things. If a woman wants a 6’2”, wealthy, charismatic, high-status guy, she’s free to want that. Nobody can stop her. But if those men don’t choose her back, pointing that out isn’t oppression. It’s reality. The same applies to men. If a guy wants a fit, childless woman in her 20s, he’s all…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:41 AM
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There are far more gym memberships than boob jobs and plastic surgery. Most men don’t actually like big, fake boobs either. I’ll take a perky set of A’s or B’s over plastic DD’s any day of the week. Also most women who do this, do it to compete against other women. A lot of this is your own lack of self esteem too. Looking at before/after lip filler pictures, if you got a lip job, I wouldn’t even notice. Or what about the girl who is currently lying brain dead after a tummy tuck and wanted a “mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:23 AM
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Ah yes, the classic theory that men secretly run the global Dating Standards Council where we all meet once a month to decide what women are “allowed” to want. Right next to the agenda item where we collectively vote on women’s “leagues.” Meanwhile in the real world, dating is just two groups of people rejecting each other based on what they personally want. That’s it. No secret male committee required. But somehow when women say “no short guys, no broke guys, no socially awkward guys, no bald g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:18 AM
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You’re kind of moving the goalposts here. No one said online dating in 1995 looked like Tinder in 2025. The point is that the infrastructure and behavior already existed, and the people using it were mostly Gen X, not Millennials. I’d also argue that online dating was much more effective back then and much less scammy which started with the invention of swiping apps. The timeline is pretty straightforward. Match.com launched in 1995, and it wasn’t alone. Kiss.com was already online in 1994. JDat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:05 PM
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Umm Match.com launched in 1995. Gen X was very much online dating. We were also asking ASL when most of you were still playing Pokémon.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 06:17 AM
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There’s some truth to the idea that men and women can show different mating preferences on average, but I think the way it’s framed here is a bit too simplified. In evolutionary psychology, female choosiness does show up across many species because females historically had higher reproductive investment (pregnancy, childbirth, etc.), so being selective had survival advantages. But that doesn’t mean women are endlessly “optimizing” partners while men are just happy with whoever is available. In r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:53 AM
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I think there’s definitely some truth to the social comparison part of what you’re saying. Humans have always compared potential partners, but social media massively increases exposure to extreme outliers. When people constantly see celebrities, influencers, and actors in their feeds, it can shift what the brain starts to treat as “normal,” even though those people represent a tiny fraction of the population. That said, I don’t think this dynamic only affects perceptions of masculinity. Men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:20 AM
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Especially. I love going down on a woman so much, I will do it for over an hour and drench my face in it. But there are some women I just won’t go down on or won’t for very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:15 AM
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I wasn’t a physical specimen in my 20’s. But at 47, I got into lifting and it’s only gone uphill. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 04:18 AM
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It’s usually laziness and gluttony. I used to be a fat fuck too. Then I hit the gym and quit engorging myself with food. It didn’t shape my personality for the better. It also created a lot of self image issues and body dysmorphia I didn’t have when I was fat. But guess what. It gets me a whole lot of women when I was previously invisible. My former fat self was the life of the party. Now I count calories and macros to the extreme and most of my personality revolves around lifting. I used to tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:15 AM
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They’re having tons of fun. But many more fat men are habitually alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:28 AM
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If you’re a fat fuck, you’re not going to connect with anything but a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:23 AM
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This attitude is exactly why most people just give up. Nobody is saying you’re going to be attractive as you were at 20. But you can do a lot to defy most of the side effects of aging with the right discipline. Not only for your aesthetics, but for your health. Here I am lifting at 50 years old through FOLFIRINOX infusions. I didn’t beat stage 3 pancreatic cancer by luck alone. Now that I’m done with treatment and my protein levels are normal now, I’ve almost doubled in size. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:00 PM
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You’re reaching with outliers. I also got really sick. Probably sicker than anyone who engages in this sub. It didn’t stop me. And did I mention, I’m old?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:54 PM
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Car accident is unlikely. You can also defy age if you’re not lazy. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:51 PM
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I’m not lazy enough to lose my muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:29 PM
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Nobody owes anybody anything about things that happened before you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:13 PM
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Sorry but I don’t carry any weight. I moved on a very long time ago. It’s a very distant memory and at this point isn’t in any way important.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:10 PM
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Except you only think your opinion matters. Reddit tends to do that to unimportant people. You all of a sudden have a voice and think you’re somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:08 PM
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If I was married, I could think of much better ways to pass the time. Especially not making a whole ass post treading into incel territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:58 AM
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It’s weird that you would even be interested in such a topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:42 AM
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Nope. I’ve erased that part of my life. Erased that person. He doesn’t exist anymore. Why would I tell anyone something I don’t talk about or think about myself? It’s not about deterring them. It’s how I live my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:39 AM
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Then why aren’t you spending time with your wife and kids instead of debating things on Reddit that should be completely irrelevant to you? Why is a married man even interested in topics about dating and hookup culture? Something doesn’t add up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:28 AM
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Background check information can be expunged though. And what I did 20 years ago has no bearing on who I am now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:09 AM
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The OP sounds like he doesn’t get laid much. Caring about this so much that he had to create a post like this reeks of involuntary celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:07 AM
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“What is your bodycount” is something you care about when you’re still young, immature and insecure. As you get older, nobody really gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:04 AM
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What does that even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:06 PM
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But that’s kind of my point. Even if “blue pill” originally just meant “red pill is wrong,” it still ends up functioning like an ideology in practice. You see the same set of assumptions repeated constantly. That looks barely matter, that dating outcomes are mostly explained by men needing to fix their attitudes or behavior, and that talking about attraction dynamics is automatically cynical or misogynistic. Whether those claims are right or wrong isn’t really the issue. It’s that when a consist…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:13 PM
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Men do focus on these things though. But these are the men who women won’t give the time of day anyway. Why should a man who doesn’t have to date fat or ugly women, date fat or ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:01 PM
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I get what you’re saying, but in practice “blue pill” absolutely functions like its own ideology in a lot of online spaces, like this one. Without Red and Blue, there is no Purple. Even if the original meaning was just “red pill is wrong,” what you see now is a pretty consistent set of assumptions about dating and gender dynamics that people defend just as strongly as red pill people defend their ideas. You can see the same patterns on both sides too. People leaning heavily on anecdotes, treatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:52 AM
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Both pills are full of shit. Something I’ve noticed reading this sub for a while is how ideological the entire conversation about dating has become. A lot of the discussion here feels less like people talking about real experiences and more like people defending teams Red vs Blue. The problem is that spaces like this naturally attract a very specific type of participant. People who are happy with their dating lives generally aren’t spending hours debating dating theory on Reddit. So the conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 03:18 AM
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Blue pillers are just self loathing niceguys hoping that being a knight in white can land him a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:02 AM
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What they view as lesser and what’s actually lesser are often times very different things. It’s crazy how so many dealbreakers exist in the middle of an obesity epidemic that affects women more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:37 PM
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A lot of this reads more like evolutionary storytelling than anthropology. True matriarchal societies are actually extremely rare. What anthropologists usually find instead are matrilineal systems, where lineage or property passes through women but political authority is still largely male. Examples like the Mosuo or the Minangkabau are often cited, but even there men typically occupy most formal leadership roles. The idea that patriarchy emerged because wandering men came back and violently sei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:08 PM
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It’s not usually genes giving someone a good body. It’s lifestyle. But women do love using biology to explain why they’re fat while sipping a 1300 calorie Starbucks latte in their glittery Stanley cup. Tall is also only popularized by social media. Biologically, it’s actually pretty horrible genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:17 PM
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Men certainly aren’t as mechanically inclined as they used to be, but even those of us who are, constantly get accused of mansplaining. My son’s high school also does have auto shop. But that could also be because I live in a Detroit suburb where automotive careers are still a thing. But one thing I’ve noticed is, very rarely do girls ever sign up for this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:22 PM
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Well this is why they drive around with their check engine light on for months and send their car into catastrophic failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 12:52 PM
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Reddit isn’t real life and is why most of you can’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:28 AM
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It’s pretty universal. Which is why all the complaining about men being lazy, messy, etc we see all over these subs is usually one sided. You even stereotyped in your original comment. I don’t know why women think we can barely function without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:56 PM
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It’s not just me though. I’ve dealt with similar in previous relationships, dealt with it growing up with my own mother and observe it in friends marriages as well. It’s why I live happily alone right now and only bring women over to visit. There’s a big reason why a single guy’s joke with our friends saying “don’t do it” when they’re about to get married. Been there, done that. I enjoy my independence much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:54 PM
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Well after my son’s mom was out of the equation, I was able to get my calories and macros in order. That didn’t come from pot noodles either. One thing a lot of women don’t realize and seem to do subconsciously is wanting to dictate everything. Then get mad if everything doesn’t go exactly her way. As for parenting? We have entirely different styles. Which is why my son absolutely hates it at his mom’s house. When he’s with his mom, he’s in boot camp. Now he has to pick up the slack when it come…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:50 PM
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Well you can’t really compare this sub to reality. They can’t date or get laid because they spend half their time on Reddit and the other half playing Fortnite or whacking it to Hentai. These men have no style or social skills. Turning to Red Pill to try and learn things that most people already learned in high school but without the echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:53 PM
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Here’s the weight I lost after I left. I was finally able to program my own diet. And since there wasn’t constant chores and projects to do, it opened up time for the gym and outdoor physical activity like running and hiking. Meanwhile she’s still fat and her new husband is even fatter. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:49 PM
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You didn’t explicitly say “all women,” but the argument you’re making treats female behavior as if the same incentive structure applies broadly enough to explain it. You described sex for women as “high risk, low reward,” and used that as the explanation for why women generally don’t behave like men sexually. That’s a general model of female behavior. My point is simply that reality is more variable than that model suggests. Some women absolutely see casual sex as low reward and avoid it. Others…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:32 PM
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How interesting that you quoted that sentence but skipped the one right after it. You said women have little incentive for sex because it’s “high risk, low reward,” but then you also said women can easily get casual sex with men “out of their league” because their behavior is more desirable and less common. Those two ideas don’t really fit together. If the incentives were truly that low across the board, that behavior wouldn’t be happening at all. Clearly a lot of women do pursue casual sex beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 05:13 PM
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Your original argument contradicts itself in a few places. You say women have little incentive for sex because it’s “high risk, low reward,” but at the same time you acknowledge that women regularly have casual sex with men “out of their league.” If the incentives were really that low, that behavior wouldn’t exist at all. Clearly a lot of women do enjoy sex and pursue it voluntarily. You’re also treating women like a monolith. Women don’t all have the same libido, risk tolerance, or motivations.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:57 PM
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These aren’t anecdotes. Women aren’t prudes. This is just another typical “Men Bad” thread posted by the usual suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:49 PM
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You obviously don’t know very many women. Here’s the thing about a low libido. You’re easily replaced. Most women I date want it multiple times a day. Just because you’re a libido is low does not mean it is even close to common. A lot of times I have a hard time even being able to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 04:36 PM
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Women taking it upon themselves to do this crap though and then complain about it. My breakfast this morning was oats, cottage cheese and a cup of yogurt. But my ex would have made a giant ass meal consisting of bacon, eggs, biscuits & gravy, hash browns, etc. Then she would expect me to clean it up. But not only don’t I want to, I didn’t want the food in the first place. Women need to realize that most of us want simple. Not trying to waste half the day in the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:34 PM
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Home-cooked meals can be healthier and cheaper, but the problem is most people are not cooking healthy. It’s hard to imagine that a 1500 cal of casserole would be healthy. Not only do I not want to eat like that, but I don’t want the mess that comes with preparing it. I have much better things to do with my time. I think this is a problem with a lot of these types of women. And a lot of it goes back to their upbringing. Being raised at the height of the obesity epidemic. Were giant high carb, hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:27 PM
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Quarterbacks rely on more than bodyweight, fitness and cardio though. I would argue that my body is more like that of a quarterback. This comes from a six day PPL strength training routine consisting of free weights and machines and 190g of protein a day you’re not going to get from MRE’s. Military nutrition targets adequacy, not optimization. Military rations and dining facilities are designed to cover the needs of most service members. Daily protein intake often ends up around 90–120 g per day…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:56 PM
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I have never heard of an attractive football player struggle, having women. But a lot of football players also aren’t built. 40% of them are linemen carrying a lot of extra mass. But the most attractive sports position according to women is a quarterback. Quarterbacks are moderately muscular, which is the physique I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:39 PM
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That’s not what I said. You always seem to twist words for some weird reason. 5’7” is only short according to the immature basic white girl. Statistically it’s average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:39 PM
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How is 5’7” having a Napoleon Complex? 5’7” isn’t even short according to anyone but a 19 year old TikTok girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:34 PM
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I aim to please
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:01 AM
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Why is it amusing for a fitness guy to want a fitness girl? And if women really want a man like me, why aren’t they working out alongside me and eating as healthy as I do? Blaming shit like thyroid problems, and PCOS with a 1200 calorie Starbucks drink in their hand in a pink, sparkley Stanley cup. But they won’t give the man who will consume the calories with them the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:25 AM
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WTF are you talking about? I feel like I’m trying to explain this to Chat GPT. Stop acting like a bot and listen to what I’m actually saying. These women prefer me. I don’t prefer them. What I want is very hard to even come by as the average female body fat percentage is 39.9 according to the CDC. It’s only March and I’ve already slept with 9 women this year. One even keeps bugging me to move in with her so she can take care of me. I wouldn’t even have to work. Like a trad wife who also brings i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:12 AM
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I’m saying I like a girl I actually have things in common with. I’m the Midwest, this is a unicorn because the majority of women here are fat, lazy and sedentary thanks to the food lobby and body positivity. So top percent only in the way it pertains to who I am. Yes I’m physically fit and attractive. But physically fit and attractive is only part of it. Of the small minority that even exists in my dating pool, few are actually relationship material. Meanwhile I have multiple overweight girls wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:05 AM
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I’m saying this as someone who gets attention most men wish they got. Most of these women would be much more compatible with the men they are rejecting. But what I actually want at my age is like finding a unicorn because of the obesity epidemic affecting the majority of women in my state. With the down to earth girls, it’s not about compatibility. It’s about supply vs demand. Shitty preferences by the masses have turned your gender into a commodity. Preferences that make zero sense in a world w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:41 AM
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It’s not just about 6/6/6 though. Women largely have pretty inflated egos now. Not all women, but enough where the balance is really thrown off. For every down to earth girl there actually is, there are multiple men trying to date her and there can only be one winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:18 AM
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I’m a bit older than you, I’m sure and men were more in this position, 20 years ago. But most still went with women close to themselves when it came to looks and status. There wasn’t all these swipe based dating apps and social media influencers keeping common men single. It’s even worse now for men who are older because not only have most of the college age hot girls completely let themselves go, the ones who are still attractive expect you to have assets, retirement savings, etc even if they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:07 PM
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I’m not talking about jacked though. At 5 foot seven, I have 14.25 inch biceps and I’m working my way up to about 15 to 16. That’s not exactly jacked. That’s an attractive beach body. The military body does not look like they depict in the movies. Military arms at this height would be more comparable to 13 inches or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:18 PM
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I just don’t get the mentality. When I was younger, women generally stayed in their own leagues. If they wanted better, they thrived to make themselves better. Now all of a sudden, even a 5 thinks she’s a goddess, trying to compete for 7’s and 8’s. Meanwhile the female 7’s now want 10’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:48 PM
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I get that but even games usually have leagues and aren’t completely lobsided like modern dating. I meet a lot of girls who I either fuck or befriend, but not very many who I find to be true relationship potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:42 PM
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What kind of body though? The kind of hypertrophy that women find attractive isn’t really obtainable through military pushups, ruck marches and 5 mile runs while eating MRE’s. Military training is built for endurance. Not an attractive body.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:19 PM
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I’d argue that these things made me too good for my dating pool. As an avid weight lifter who trains, 6 days a week, it’s hard to find a woman who can match my body or physical activity. I do have a ton of options now. But damn is the bar, low. It’s crazy how these women wanted nothing to do with me when I looked more like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:13 PM
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Same way we’d question linking personality flaws to weight, appearance, or gender, Tying behavior to height is still assigning character traits based on a physical feature. It’s uncalled for regardless. There are more creative ways to call out the person without shaming physical features that many men share.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:18 PM
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Oh I know. And mods here love to coddle her. I’ve had a few week long bans defending myself from her constant sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:44 PM
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Saying “Napoleon Complex” makes you uneducated considering Napoleon wasn’t even short. It was just something being used against him by his political opponents. “Napoleon complex” is sexist because it links a man’s personality to an unchangeable physical trait and reinforces the idea that men are supposed to be tall to be secure or dominant. That’s body shaming wrapped in a gender stereotype. No different than calling tall girls intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 03:29 PM
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I always get pushback for this, but the best way is to stop feeding into men out of your league. I like to call the problem, Late Stage Hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:29 AM
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There are far more lonely fat guys than fat women. I used to be one of them until I slimmed way down and packed on muscle. Then they all came crawling out of the woodwork wanting to date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:18 PM
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I get a lot of female attention. I fail to see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:18 PM
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Apparently not the Reddit neckbeards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:01 PM
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Why is that always the deflection? Attraction is part of it, yes. But I also prefer my partner to be healthy and physically active. This is something the average sedentary Redditor would never understand. I’m doing a 20 mile hike next month. I expect her to be able to keep up and actually complete it with me. An obese person could never handle it. Or the 10k run I have lined up in May.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:52 AM
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It’s called attraction. It’s also health. It’s pontification to hold a woman as accountable as I hold myself? Obesity is not natural as you seem brainwashed by progressive fat acceptance ideology. It’s surprising that this is such a progressive take considering it’s both environmentally unfriendly and supports corporate billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:30 AM
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Why would you have to kill yourself in the gym? Thats a huge misconception and would be drastically overtraining. Most of us also want a woman to still look attractive when the corset comes off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:22 AM
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Umm we never had an obesity epidemic until now. Also nobody decided women needed to starve. Starving makes a woman age like shit just as much as overeating does. You don’t get that sexy “toned” look by starving. That requires calories, protein and resistance training. But hey, anything to use Reddit fetish words like Misogyny. Right? It’s also a way to stroke your own laziness because fitness requires work. Why do crunches and deadlifts when you can hide your fupa and pannus through shapewear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:50 AM
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Or maybe we want older women to thrive to become more attractive. This comes down to gym and diet rather than makeup and shape wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:38 AM
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Anyone can land a 1. But nobody wants a 1. Meanwhile a female 6 doesn’t want a male 6. Do you even know what a 1 looks like? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:43 AM
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They’re really not though. Especially in these subs where the entire narrative is build around “women are wonderful”. Time and time again, men are told to improve all these things just to get a woman. Despite the fact that what most are looking for should already be on their level. It’s strange to me how average men are struggling to find any women in the middle of an obesity epidemic. 20 years ago, women were not this fat. The ones who were, knew they were and dated in their own league. They ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:38 AM
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Except the majority of eligible women become below our looks level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:09 AM
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Keep deflecting. We complain about the catfishing and lack of drive to actually become attractive. The bar is not only low, it’s gross. Men are told to do all this improving, only to find the dating pool becomes far below their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 04:08 AM
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What excuse? When you’re a fit and attractive as a man, you’re better than the vast majority of your dating pool. You’re basically a Maserati in a world full of Kia’s. I say this as someone who gets a couple dozen dating app likes a day. Women need to do better and actually meet the standards they have. But most are too lazy, unmotivated and addicted to alcohol, Starbucks and junk food. Stop relying on clothes to hide your FUPA you found on the TikTok shop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:44 AM
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Problem is, when you’re fit and active, the women you find who are fit/active and actually looking for a relationship are very few and far between. They’re too busy celebrating hot girl summer. What you end up with is flings/one night stands. The ones who want a relationship with you are the average or unattractive ones who won’t give men in their own league the time of day and are too unmotivated to put themselves in your league. They would rather lie to themselves in the name of body positivit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:24 AM
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There are far more fat college girls now than there were when I was in school. Some studies show the amount of fat 18 to 24 year olds on campuses being as high as 44%. Yet a guy is still supposed to lift weights and look fashionable to get one. Fat girls never used to call themselves Thicc or Curvy. They were just fat. Hot people got with hot people. Average people got with average people. Fat people got with fat people. But thanks to modern social media, the dynamics have changed in a very absu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:50 AM
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So what happens when you do all these things, get the attention and realize just how low the bar really is? Like men, 73% of women are overweight or obese. The average female bodyfat percentage is 39.9%. It’s weird to me how men are supposed to do all this self improvement according to Blue Pill but women don’t seem to have to. While average men are being ignored, us attractive men are being catfished by shape shifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:33 AM
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Except more women have harmed both men and children than bears. Why are men being singled out? Oh that’s right. Sexism. You’re never going to convince me that the Man vs Bear thing is anything less than hate speech. But because we’re men, our feelings matter less. We’re just supposed to suck up your hateful stereotypes. It’s the very reason I was never taken serious as a male domestic violence survivor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:02 PM
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And you don’t think people stereotype minorities due to experiences? This is every bit as sexist as that is racist. And you’re literally trying to defend it in the same way Boomers tried to defend racism. Especially the fear of black males.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:45 PM
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The explanation changes based on the narrative. But it’s sexist and demeaning, regardless. What if we shifted it to race? I mean these Man Vs Bear people are the same ones who lock their car door the moment they turn down Martin Luther King Jr BLVD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:22 PM
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Exactly. Man vs Bear isn’t just “Some Men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:14 PM
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She doesn’t really have to be poor. I mean I go over to Canada and date 8’s and 9’s with their own money, house and job while the overweight American 6 with an EBT card tries to date like she’s a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:28 AM
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They really try to though. A lot of stuff women complain about are things they brought on themselves. A mentality passed on by their boomer parents and grandparents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:42 PM
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Why does the woman automatically get to decide what the weight is in the first place though?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:37 PM
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Sounds more like you trying to cope with your post falling apart. Single because I can’t secure commitment with a girl I’m attracted to? I am attracted to these women. What I seek in a partner is incredibly rare. Most people don’t share my lifestyle. Something a sedentary Redditor like yourself would never understand. Only about 5% of women can perform a single, strict, unassisted pull-up for instance. If I settle down, she has to be incredibly athletic. See? A unicorn. Now go drink your Mountai…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:16 AM
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It’s literally how the apps are designed. They don’t make money by finding you a relationship. They make money by keeping you connected as long as possible. So the system is optimized for time spent, swipes, matches, notifications, emotional re-engagement. Not long-term relationship success. Swipe apps use variable reward schedules (you don’t know when you’ll get a match), intermittent reinforcement and dopamine-triggering notifications. That’s the same psychological framework used in social med…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:56 AM
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It’s designed like a casino. That’s the entire point of the swipe feature and the algorithms that go with it. Apps worked for better for commitment before they designed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:19 AM
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Having multiple dates lined up doesn’t mean it works. The apps are greedy and are designed to push people away from commitment. I’m guilty of it too. I’ve done a whole lot of pump & dumps, a handful of flings and made a couple friends with benefits. But I’ll be lying if I said I wasn’t looking for a unicorn if I was going to ever commit again and the apps are to blame. You have a whole lot of lonely men, starving for attention that women will not give them. So they pay a fortune on premium subsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:43 AM
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You are your own worst enemy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:28 AM
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Even without politics and censorship. TRP is just weird and creepy. Dating only sucks if you’re incredibly ugly, have unrealistic expectations or spend your life habitually online. Following such an ideology makes things even worse for you yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:17 AM
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I literally know lonely guys who think they deserve nothing less than a supermodel. Fat, sloppy and balding, thinking they’re some kind of gods gift. But when you’re actually successful with women, you’re not manipulated by pills or the podcasters profiting off you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:20 PM
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I’m not sure what’s black pill about anything I’m saying. Men who are successful enough with women that they get to pick and choose like that don’t generally latch onto pill ideology as it’s basically a cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:38 PM
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If he’s latching onto Red Pill ideology, he’s probably not getting pussy unless she weighs like 300lbs. It’s funny how guys who look like DJ Qualls are acting like they’re gods gift to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:30 PM
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Yet it seems to be Red Pill men who are struggling to find a relationship. They seem to be the ones getting red in the face that women won’t touch them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:18 PM
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Employers just find a reason to fire you if you have cancer. And good luck finding a new job if you mention you have or recently had cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:24 PM
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Legally obligated to and what they do are entirely different things though. If an employer feels your disability is affecting your productivity, they can just find another reason to fire you. It’s also worded in the law as “reasonable accommodation”. Missing a lot of work for instance isn’t considered reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:19 PM
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“Might” is the key word here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:17 PM
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Thank you very much. I’m glad to have it behind me. I’m just giving an example of someone who would very much claim to do all this emotional labor with nobody doing their part and then scream weaponized incompetence. If my ex came in this sub and made a post about all her household labor with no help, everybody will be cheering her on and calling me a lazy bum. Too many times though the argument is very one-sided while we are accused of not pulling our weight. I’m just giving the male perspectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:18 PM
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It’s not a desire to do chores. It’s an obsession that all this shit needs to be done. Like a workaholic who hates their job but still spends long hours doing it. They get there early, they stay late and pick up every overtime shift offered. They then complain about other employees not picking up the slack and working as hard as they are. This tends to be a lot of women in a domestic sense when claiming to take on 90% of the household load. My place is clean. I do it efficient. Same with my cook…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:04 PM
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I was with the other parent though and there’s big reasons why I’m no longer with her. Part of it was her alcoholism. But another reason was her over the top idea of chores which too many women possess. Even when it was right, it still wasn’t up to her standards and it was never enough. “Dishes are being washed in the wrong order. That cup doesn’t go there. Why are you mixing that in that bowl when it should be in this bowl? You don’t fold clothes like that, you do it like this”. Even though my …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:55 PM
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But are you sure he needs to carry a larger load? Or is she going way over the top with her load to begin with, doing a lot of unnecessary chores for the sake of doing them and creating even more chores through things like messy, complex home cooked dinners with a ton of leftovers that are only going to be thrown out? In my own personal experiences with my son’s mom, my own mom as well as looking at other people’s marriages, a lot of times this seems to be the case. Like women have this chore mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:28 PM
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House of a man who leaves cleaning on the back burner? Umm no. It’s not an obsession. I’m also very efficient with cooking meaning I don’t have to mess up an entire kitchen to make a meal. And unlike most single moms who have kids as fat as she is, my son isn’t fat. We eat clean and healthy, go to the gym and do all kinds of outdoor activities together. Kind of hard to dirty a house when you’re not there staying fat and sedentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:14 PM
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Most of it. And I was raising two at that time, ten years apart in age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:57 PM
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Umm I do all of that. It’s not emotional labor. But obviously Gen Z women need a label for everything because adulting is so tough apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 05:55 PM
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Nope. Lived together for 13 years though. I wanted an escape route without courts demanding alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:54 PM
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It completely addressed your comment. You just didn’t like the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:22 PM
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It was easy when he was 4 too. Raising a teenager also comes with a lot of other responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:21 PM
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I’m not mad at anyone. I’m just calling out the hypocrisy. As a single dad, what work exactly don’t I do that? These women are doing? Oh that’s right. I’m not obsessively cleaning 24/7 while barking out orders to everyone. I actually make time to go to the gym and have a social life. There’s also a reason why my son prefers to be with me instead of his mother and she now only sees him maybe 20% of the time. Because as a 14-year-old, he does not want to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:06 PM
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Tried that. Eventually, I left her ass. Now she’s got a new man to boss around. My son told me she made the dude sleep in the garage once lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:04 PM
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But it is easy. If it’s not, they’re doing it wrong. Source? I’m a single dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:02 PM
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I would never call that labor. But for whatever reason, women seem to want a metal for their effort. I woke up this morning, took my son to school, now after the gym, I will be grocery shopping until I pick him up, then cooking dinner and helping him with homework. Absolutely none of this is eMOtIoNaL LAbOr
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:57 PM
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I gave an example of the most recent woman. That’s not the only woman I ever lived with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:55 PM
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Well, with my ex it didn’t matter what I did it was wrong. Dishes had to be washed in a certain way, in a certain order. Everything here to go in the cupboards a specific way that she took it upon herself to determine. She decided the grocery list, even if I objected, chores, had to be done exactly when she said they did. Unless of course she decided she wanted to do something else with her friends, then chores could wait. When she said jump, I had to say “ how high?”. Anything that was not done…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:53 PM
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She will buy the toilet paper while I’m at work and then throw it in my face. What if I want to change the bedsheets on Tuesday and she wants to change them on Friday? By default she is right and I am wrong. That’s how most marriages work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:48 PM
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It’s a hill most women will die on. Then things aren’t going their way, they will take to read it and make posts about Weaponized incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:48 PM
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Control freak
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:47 PM
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Most women wouldn’t agree to this though. Any woman I’ve cohabited with always carried the mindset that she made the household rules. Single life is much more peaceful because I can ask her to leave in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:45 PM
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That usually comes down to her just being a Nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:44 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:43 PM
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I’m a single dad and I don’t give a fuck what Google says. Anything I do for my son is not emotional labor. Anyone who carries that mindset should not be a parent. This is generally a feminist take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:43 PM
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There are often times two sides to those rants though. My son’s mom might try those same rants while leaving three quarters of the story out. There are reasons why I left her ass. And until now, stuff like finding women came natural. What changed? The internet now dictates their brains. And now they have manosphere influencers to brainwash them even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:46 AM
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They don’t need to. We generally learned, hanging out with our peers and mingling on our social circles. But your mom should have taught them how to brush their teeth and wash their ass. And sent them outside instead of Reddit, COD and GTA all day and night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:20 PM
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You need RP to teach you something you should have learned from your mom or PBS?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:42 PM
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I’ve yet to see it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:40 PM
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Not when the wallet itself looks gross. I once had a woman who wanted me and had a multi million dollar settlement. I couldn’t have imagined being stuck with her. I’m thinking it would have to be even more gross to have Donald Trump on top of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:55 PM
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My doctors are very confident considering my age, lifestyle and genetic makeup of my tumor. Also keep in mind that someone can get cancer at any age. It’s not an age related illness and I lost a girlfriend to cancer at 23 years old. One of my fest friends lost a nephew who was 4 years old. It’s not something that’s related to age gap relationships. Sorry to hear about your mom btw. I lost my mom to breast cancer. She was 9 years younger than my dad who is still here at 82. While he was diagnosed…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:56 PM
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I’m the guy who beat cancer and was still lifting weights aggressively, 15 hours a week and running 5k’s all through chemotherapy. I’m cancer free and owe much of that to my fit, healthy lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:35 PM
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Decline with age? lol. I’m 50 and very athletic. You think a 40 year old woman would have to be my caretaker? Chances are, I’m in significantly better shape than her as I weight train 6 days a week, run for 3 days, hike, kayak, etc. I’m probably in way better shape than you as well. My current girlfriend is 38 and I’m much more athletically advanced than her. I have no plans on slowing down anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:32 AM
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I’m surprised when they end up with unattractive men because she chose something like height or money over actual attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:26 AM
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I use very light olive oil. I also do a lot of sous vide and air fryer cooking. My dishes are also spotless. My ex would have gone batshit crazy just for me buying a sous vide considering she also wanted to control the finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:43 AM
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Oh, shut up with that monolith crap. That’s a stupid Reddit fetish word as I feel like I’m speaking to AI. Your options are going to be significantly lower. A man who is 5’1” might still get a girlfriend. But he will still be passed up by the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:45 PM
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My glasses are never greasy. But I also don’t eat greasy food because I’m not a fat ass. There’s also this invention called a dishwasher that I got yelled at for using even though it uses significantly less water than washing by hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:16 PM
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Yea, eventually I just stopped doing it. Then I became “lazy”. But what was the point when I only got yelled at and insulted anyway? It was better getting yelled at for doing nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:23 PM
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I don’t wait until it’s filth, but I have much more important things to do. Like a social life and 6 day a week gym routine. A lot of the extra work I’ve seen women do who I’ve lived with has been mostly unnecessary. I don’t believe it’s because it’s what’s expected of you as I would rather you go on a hike with me or spend the day at the beach. I think it’s something that’s been passed down through the generations when it (a) was actually expected of you and (b), because your mothers and grandm…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:01 PM
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Holy fuck. The doing dishes in the wrong order scenario is so real. It’s like a lot of women’s chore methods are very ritualistic. My ex also used to pull the same crap when it came to my cooking methods. Despite the fact that I was a better cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:52 PM
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Stop getting married right away then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:49 PM
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So not being attracted to someone is homophobic? Most men wouldn’t want a woman who has a haircut like the school bully or corrections officer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:06 AM
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But again. I’ve never had a woman come over and not have sex with me. Whether it’s for dinner, a movie or to chill in the pool. I don’t even have to make the first sexual advance. So I guess I’ve come to expect it while letting her lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:54 PM
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There is. There are certain people who you can tell just by looking at their fashion sense, that they’re LGBTQ. There are certain uniforms that men are going to find to be a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:13 PM
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But do you look the part? I’ve never met a man who would reject a bisexual woman unless she was the butch kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:09 PM
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I can’t say I’ve ever had a woman come over to look at a book collection. Or any collection for that matter. If she’s coming over, sex is pretty much guaranteed. I never even have to initiate it. Could it be that some men are friend zoned while men like me are not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:05 PM
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And women are responsible for the negative perception they receive, being an adult content creator. Nobody owes them any respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:43 AM
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Here’s the thing. I don’t unless I’m simply wanting to get laid at the moment and even then, there’s still a limit. But that doesn’t stop the accusations of misogyny and fatphobia. Rogan can also be interesting to listen to even if you don’t agree with some of his talking points. The show isn’t exactly what the media perceives it as being.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:42 PM
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What does that comment even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:14 PM
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Same can be said for the women we choose not to pick. A lot of women seem to want their cake and eat it to. Like how dare me find her obesity undesirable. Now I’m an incel lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:21 AM
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Are you talking about men? Or incels? Because those of us who get women and have standards tend to get shamed for it. Shallow, fatphobic, objectifying, grooming, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:45 PM
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Even if you do get pussy, Reddit women will literally gaslight you for having standards, preferences and dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:20 PM
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Who are “you guys”? Perhaps it’s time for you to step away from the battle of femcels vs incels. What is your BMI BTW? Because your echo chamber mindset and top 1% commenter flair says you must be very, very sedentary. This is so unhealthy both mentally and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:44 PM
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You’re using the comments of Reddit virgins to understand men? The only way to seriously understand things is to actually touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:54 PM
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I’m sure I touch far more grass than you do. Especially looking at karma count on a 2 year old account.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:22 AM
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It seems to be a problem with American popular culture. Living on an international border, I match with women both in both the US and Canada. It’s funny how much more attractive the Canadian women are who match with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:09 PM
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They’re never going to meet those standards. So we generally have flings or situationships with women who are obtainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:01 PM
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This is hard from the man’s perspective too though. But the big difference is, being fit and attractive usually isn’t enough. There’s height requirements, income requirements, asset requirements, etc. If an attractive man has a basic job, is 5’7” to 5’10”, and lives an average life, he’s not good enough for the vast majority of women at the same level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 07:48 PM
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Finding a man isn’t usually the problem. Finding a man who isn’t either using her or just wanting casual, usually is. This usually becomes down to too high of standards that she can’t match.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:51 PM
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That’s not the definition of gaslighting though. Your body actually is your own doing. This goes for both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:02 AM
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And Brad Pitt isn’t a unicorn for Angelina Jolie. She could have almost any man she wants. Really bad comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:58 PM
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Again, this is wrong. It’s not about wanting anyone to chase you. It’s about getting laid and nothing more. Men are only dishonest because most women won’t agree to a hookup. I wouldn’t even call myself dishonest because I never even say I’m looking for a relationship. But I also don’t say I’m not. They end up assuming like one date entitles them to commitment. A couple weeks ago, I slept with a women on a first date who I was actually considering more with. Then she turned psycho obsessed with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:12 PM
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I’d doesn’t prove anything. An ego/self esteem boost isn’t a power dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:01 PM
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I’m older than most here and my sexual partners range from late Gen X to the middle of the millennial generation. Today is Jan 27th and since the beginning of the year, I’ve had sex with 5 women ranging from ages 37 and 52. I have two dates coming up this weekend and already know at least one of the two dates will lead to sex. I meet them all on Facebook Dating and every one of them is seeking a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:58 PM
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Not usually. Usually it’s desperation that sends a man to a prostitute. Whenever I’ve done a pump & dump, there’s never been any power behind it. It’s literally just to get off to a woman instead of my hand. It also gives me validation. Especially when I can send her into multiple orgasms. Most women will not just fuck anyone. But when you’re attractive enough, it’s incredibly easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:51 PM
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If any guy could do this, prostitutes, strippers and escorts couldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:48 PM
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Whether or not they delay sex really depends on who the man is. Rarely does a woman delay sex with me. And after sex, I’m almost always told the same thing. “I usually don’t have sex this early”. It’s pretty crazy how hard women will throw themselves at you if you work as hard on your body as I do while already having an attractive face.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:46 PM
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That depends on how attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:43 PM
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Pump & dumps are more of a thing when she’s not attractive enough for the men she desires. A lot of you are only capable of a relationship with an incel tier man. I know that’s a hard pill to swallow which is why most of you deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:39 PM
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It’s modern tech in general. People don’t even leave the house anymore. Saturday night, I went to a party in a downtown area I used to frequent every weekend, clubbing and hooking up. This was probably 25 years ago. We used to party until 2am and then hit one of the restaurants that stayed open 24 hours and was packed with people after the bars closed. It was crazy to see the whole area basically closed by midnight. What used to be a huge party spot that had crowds of young people having fun all…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:08 AM
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Well if you’re doing CrossFit, I’m automatically going to think I’m better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:34 AM
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A lot of times, it’s not just picking up after yourself. A lot of women are way over the top with the cooking/cleaning thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:24 PM
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A lot of times that’s more of a headache than anything. One thing I discovered after becoming single is there was a whole lot less to cook, clean or nag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:21 PM
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Does this include everything? Not saying this is you, but there are many women on a Burger King budget wanting their man to pick up the slack while still doing a bunch of chore shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:08 PM
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And do you know why women are less likely to leave? It mostly has to do with survivor benefits since the man is more likely to be the breadwinner. When you’re not married, she will leave you in an instance as I discovered when I was diagnosed with stage 3 pancreatic cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:58 PM
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Then he shouldn’t have to pay for you. Women don’t seem to want 50/50 when it pertains to money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:52 PM
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Oh I’ve been called lazy by the types of women who complain their man isn’t picking up the slack. But notice how I used the word Nazi in my last response. These types of women tend to be complete control freaks. Even when there’s nothing to do, she’ll find something for you to do. It’s like working one of those shitty jobs where you can’t be caught just standing around because there’s no work to do at the moment. Forced to pick up a broom and sweep an already swept floor. The philosophy of “if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:23 PM
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Funny how my place is clean. I don’t clean obsessively and don’t make unnecessary messes in the first place. I also have enough clothes to only do laundry once every week or two. Same with cooking. I keep things simple, practical and don’t make unnecessary messes. Controlling my own kitchen without some Nazi wanting to plan all these complex high calorie meals also allowed me to lose over 100lbs and have time for the gym, six days a week. Instead of chores all the time, I have time to actually g…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:50 PM
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I’d argue that a lot of women simply want to be the boss and then cry victim when they don’t get their way. I’ve been in these shitty relationships and will never do that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 05:27 PM
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What does she add to ours? You pretend that children are toddlers their entire lives in these threads and pretend that having kids is something everybody does. I’m done having kids for one, and secondly, I’m not looking for a chore list like I have a mom or an employer. I want someone who lives her life as carefree as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:46 PM
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Anecdotal would mean it only happened once or twice. Not to mention my married friend was pulling just as many women I was while our single friends were striking out. It’s pretty common knowledge and well documented that a lot of women will chase what they think they can’t have. Research the Pre-selection effect. Validation plays a big part too as does difference in behavior as married men are more relaxed and confident. They don’t seem needy or desperate. Not trying to impress ironically, incre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:21 PM
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Oh, a few of these turned into situationships. And pretending to be married freed me of commitment while these women thought I was eventually going to leave my wife for them. A couple others were more than happy to be a NSA side piece.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:11 PM
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Depends on your definition of dating. When I was younger and used to go to clubs, hooking up with women, my married friend used to come with me. I asked him why he doesn’t take off his wedding ring. He said he gets far more women to sleep with him with the ring on than he ever got with it off. I tested this myself after and bought a wedding ring at a pawn shop. Sure enough, pretending to be married got me a lot of hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:05 PM
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I know Blue Pill men believe women are wonderful but it’s a serious problem that’s been imbedded in their heads at a young age by their Boomer parents. I’m a bit older than most people here and it’s a huge problem among late Gen X and early Millennial women who grew up being taught that cleanliness is next to godliness. It’s the same with the cooking. Making huge high calorie meals daily with leftovers that are only going to be thrown away. Then as their partner, you’re expected to clean this me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:16 PM
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I’m not talking about messy. I’m talking about cleaning the same things multiple times a day that are already clean. I brought cooking into the mix because it tells me how frequently pots, pans and dishes need to be done. So not only is it about obsessively cleaning, but also creating a whole lot of unnecessary extra work from kitchen prep to cleaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:06 PM
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A lot of women seem to be like this. The biggest red flag I look for is how obsessed she is with housework, cooking, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:02 PM
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That’s dating though. That’s not willingly being a mistress
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:50 PM
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I’m a co misogynistic because some random on Reddit said so? And yes women do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:36 AM
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Well it’s the direct result of vain standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 06:02 AM
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I’m hardly a slob and have significantly fewer chores than I did with my OCD ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:49 AM
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The biggest issue is, a lot of women are way over the top when it comes to chores
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:29 AM
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Men only need to manipulate when they’re unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:00 PM
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It argue that blue eyed people have the least troubles finding someone attracted to them. Blue eyes are a very attractive trait to have. As someone with very bad vision problems, I still wouldn’t give up my blue eyes for 20/20 vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:02 PM
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In sickness and in health means exactly that though. But lemme guess. If your wife got sick, you’d stay. If that’s the case, the love is one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 03:02 PM
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So marriage vows are BS then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:16 AM
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Is survival really tied to luxury though? And what if it’s the materialistic person who gets ill? Should they be content with their partner potentially leaving them? I guess from a survival standpoint, I see materialism as a huge red flag as life can change in an instance. Would that person love you enough to stay without the finer things in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:15 AM
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Some people can be very nice when everything is going their way. But as a cancer survivor who saw a fairly good life swept from underneath me, other colors can show. I have the looks. I’ve had some of the success. But I’ve learned that people with rigid standards will abandon you fast in a time of need as the lifestyle is much more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:40 AM
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No. Not start to settle. Most women don’t even know what 6’0” is. Young women reject guys under 6’0” for the same reason why they reject guys with a green text bubble. Further more, I had literally zero trouble dating plenty of women before this 6’0” standard ever even started. You also deflect with the “dad bod” thing when that’s not even all of us. I train in the gym, 6 days a week and have a really nice body. Gym gains actually get you a better physique when you’re average height due to muscl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:06 PM
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It’s even more pathetic to be married and believe in this dumb pill shitp
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 08:23 PM
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There’s a reason why I get laid and red pill people don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:53 PM
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That’s not what’s being claimed. Physical attractiveness is no longer about a minimum height that starts with 6 which they could never point out on a blank ruler. Aging men also have attractive qualities that younger men don’t. They no longer want the guy dressed like a fuckboy. I wear my salt & pepper scruff beard because it gets me pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:30 AM
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That’s BS. People’s tastes mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:17 AM
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You said we prefer makeup. We do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:12 PM
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We don’t actually prefer makeup though. We prefer a woman looks good without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:10 PM
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Makeup is bad when used as a costume though. It’s very deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:09 PM
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We actually prefer women who don’t need makeup to look great. Especially those of us who aren’t sedentary and enjoy doing things where makeup wouldn’t really be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 05:43 PM
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You’re insane and unhinged. Andrew Tate doesn’t care about you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:19 PM
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It’s not a compromise. It’s about finding other things much more attractive. When I was 25, I didn’t find 45 year old women attractive at all. Now I’m like “holy shit”. Then you have to consider what is more practical rather than a one trick pony.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 04:06 PM
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How is it settling? As you get older, you start finding older people much more attractive. Beauty isn’t just about a 10/10 body. I’ve even rejected younger women in favor of older ones. This sub is so unhealthy. When I see a woman in her early 20’s now, I basically see a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:57 PM
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If you think it’s settling, you have a lot of growing up to do. I’m going to assume you’re young and easily sucked into these dumb ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:53 PM
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What you find most attractive and what you actively go for are very different things. As people age, there’s a level of maturity men are looking for, mutual interests, etc. As you age, you also start finding older people much more attractive than you did at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:48 PM
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Where does this really happen outside of this sub? Unlike the real world, this place is obsessed with youth like every man is thriving to be like Leonardo DiCaprio or some other celebrity with women a third his age. Men do have more success as they age but only because as you age, women in your age group become less superficial. Young men do have real gripes with standards from the opposite sex. It’s worse now than ever because of how bad social media has enforced and even amplified these standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:26 PM
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Because it would require them to actually eat healthy and go to the gym. But they would rather sit on their ass and post on Reddit all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 05:48 AM
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There are places in the world where people walk around on the beach with their dick and balls hanging out. So by your logic, it’s not sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 04:52 AM
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It’s an entirely different kind of signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:35 AM
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I explained biology to you. Evolutionary biologists conclude breasts evolved to provide a continuous visual fertility signal and maintain male sexual interest outside ovulation. This is because unlike other primates, humans have concealed ovulation and don’t show obvious heat cycles. In most other mammals:, mammary glands enlarge only during nursing. Outside lactation, they’re flat and nonsexual. Human breasts on the other hand remain enlarged year-round even when not pregnant or nursing. Neuros…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:10 AM
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You’re a moron. Please don’t reproduce. The world doesn’t need you passing out your extra chromosome
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:52 AM
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Why don’t you do some actual research? Your ignorance is showing. Female breasts develop at puberty, are driven by estrogen and signal sexual maturity and fertility. Male chests do not rsignal any kind of fertility or reproductive status. That alone puts breasts in a different biological category. This is sexual selection, not social conditioning which is why I called you a fedora tipper.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:22 AM
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How is biology creepy? Tip your fedora some more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:58 PM
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Female breasts are sexual biologically as it triggers fertility. The male chest is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:48 PM
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I’m still broke without resources yet women want me. Which goes against the views of this echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:30 PM
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So where are the abundance of resources in non affluent areas? People still get married. Even I have women wanting to date and marry me without a single bit of wealth or resources. These Reddit echo chambers are just dumb and the opinions here come from people who google the worldview they are after and have little to no real life experiences. I’m almost convinced that half of PPD women consists of white knight neckbeards fulfilling their woman fantasies through role play. I mean any woman I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:24 PM
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For the poor and jaded? Do you hear your arrogance right now? Pretty typical though when you spend your life in high value vs low value echo chambers. Meanwhile the key differences between courting and dating comes down to intent from both sides. Nothing to do with Mormons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:17 PM
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Through nature, men never needed to possess wealth. In most other cultures around the world, they still don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:04 PM
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Only the case with shallow women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:51 PM
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Nothing to do with Mormon. It’s been tradition for many years. Dating and courting are separate things. Courting is an investment in something already established with intent for more. Not wasting money on someone who is practically a stranger. Men only do this for strangers out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:32 PM
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Courting is intended for marriage. Not early dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:12 PM
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At least on Facebook, you can interact with the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:48 AM
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Well you’re obviously attached to this sub much more than I am. You realize you’re proving my point. Right? I also lost in subs like antinatalism to laugh at them too. Am I also like them? I mean considering I have two kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:35 PM
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The guy in the video is everyone who doesn’t touch grass. I’m only on Reddit a lot as I recover from cancer. It helps last the time. But there’s no damn way I would spend much time here after I’m working again and have my life back. This place is mostly a collection of fringe idiocies all crawling out of the woodwork. Most of the stuff posted here is not relevant among people who actually touch grass. Most of you are victims of your own algorithm. Like this dumb ass pill shit. I guess I just fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:49 PM
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Reddit isn’t society. It’s mostly a collection of sad basement dwellers. This right here is the typical Redditor. https://youtu.be/dNq_rQnHuSE?si=U2TR4jsBHedqRMVZ
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:32 PM
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I want to know how much of Reddit is autistic. From the Pill people to the antinatalists to even the vegans and political nuts. All these people take fringe ideologies and latch onto them like religious scriptures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:23 PM
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Does anyone actually have to be this so called “Chad” or high-tier man though? When I hear these words, I hear something that’s not rooted in reality for the vast majority of people. When I read up on “Red Pill” I think of a pretty miserable life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:19 PM
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Caregiver? I’m a survivor. It has nothing to do with the cancer. It has everything to do with my income as my job discriminated against me through treatment. You’re deflecting and twisting things around. I beat the cancer. I’m probably in better health than you. How do I focus on getting better when I already am? I’ll sit here patiently waiting for your next echo chamber reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:51 PM
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You seem to be deflecting now. Like I said though. I’ve seen first hand how women will treat you, with and without money. The way I’m looked at now, losing my career because of cancer really makes me wonder why I ever fought to beat it. Because survivorship makes me look like some broke loser in their eyes. Everything goes well until I tell them what I’m doing for income right now. Then I don’t hear from them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:40 PM
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Yet so many men claim they can’t find a date. I’ve experienced first hand how successful dating is for men both with and without money. It’s not even just about earning the same. How many women will connect with a man who earns less? One of the biggest flexes you will see against men is being broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:24 PM
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It really hasn’t happened though and pilled people are a vocal minority on the internet. Like other Reddit spaces, this sub consists of very fringe ideologies. This social media platform is a haven for the mentally ill to have a voice. Whether it’s pill debates, antinatalism, ideological veganism, far left/right politics, etc. Let’s be honest though. Men’s relationship prospects are greatly tied to how much income we have. What’s one of the first questions asked in an app conversation or date? “…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 06:16 PM
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I believe if more people believed in non financial value, marriages wouldn’t end up in divorce at the rate they do.. we hear all these complaints from women about how her places the burden of everything on her and won’t help run a household. Maybe this wouldn’t be nearly a thing if financial value wasn’t the driving force behind a relationship. If only more women picked a man for who he is rather than what he provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:21 PM
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What if they’re not overly obsessed with football though? I only ever watch my home NFL team for instance. I love my Lions for have no concern for any other team whether it’s pro or college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:17 AM
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Yes, most men are pushing over 25%. I think the male average is 28%. My point is that most of these men are in fact passed up for a man with more muscle and a lower BFP even though the average woman doesn’t really match that energy. I experienced this first hand when I was fat. I got virtually no attention and I just wanted to settle down again with someone fat like myself so we could live fat and happy. But now that I got leaner with more muscle, I’m around 15% bodyfat BTW, the attention I get …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:39 PM
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Good job and keep going. While it’s not morbidly obese, it’s still obese. Most people with this BFP are not serious about trying to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:35 PM
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Your pictures seem to be social media takes. But this is according to The American Council on Exercise which is NCAA accredited. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:05 PM
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That’s false. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:13 PM
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That’s only sex though. What PPD and mouth breathers in general don’t seem to realize is most want more than that. To the point where many of these women get quite clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:04 AM
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Improve themselves for the types of men they want. You can’t be overweight and frumpy, expecting a hot man to accept what you call curves. Overweight or obese is the vast majority of American women. Eating like they have free healthcare while the rest of the world is laughing at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:16 AM
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This is a very autistic take
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:13 AM
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How many men do you actually know?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:12 AM
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At some point, they would have to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:10 AM
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If only all these women were as attractive as the 20% of us that they want. With an average female body-fat percentage of 39.9% in America, it’s hard to wrap my head around how so many can afford to be so picky while expecting us to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:09 AM
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It doesn’t need to be a long way off with the right discipline and education. I turned fitness into my personality until I reached my goals which didn’t take nearly as long as I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:04 AM
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Men can’t be sluts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:34 AM
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I’m disproving the belief that women are called sluts and men aren’t. I don’t pursue it less. But when I start dating somebody, she’s never going to know the real number unless she’s very sexually expressive. The key to not be slut shamed or judged, is to not bring it up. If asked, lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:14 AM
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I don’t talk about it and if someone does ask, I lie and say it’s significantly lower than it actually is. Because the number is pretty significant and has turned women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:58 AM
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I don’t have to be sexist. I’m constantly the fly on the wall. 100 women vs accountability, Mr White Knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:53 AM
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If that was true, I wouldn’t be hiding my bodycount as a male. It’s not like most would believe my bodycount anyway since we’re always accused of lying about it, claiming it’s more than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:48 AM
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I guess if you don’t want to be slut shamed, don’t be a slut. Or at least don’t admit to it. But it seems to be hard for women to keep their past sex lives to themselves. And don’t act like women don’t slut shame other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:47 AM
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I’d argue they haven’t really spoken to regular women either. Only the Reddit femcels
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:50 AM
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A guide made up to sell to losers for money. Tom Leykis sold RP under a different name in the 90’s. And said years later it made him a fortune because his listeners were so gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:07 AM
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Giving info = telling them what to do. Very bad info might I add. Red Pill reminds me of season 5 of Dexter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 08:03 AM
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You place people in tiers as told by your echo chamber. Yet I see unattractive people everywhere in relationships and marriages. It’s generally the social media obsessed basement dwellers who are lonely..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:54 AM
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So because she dated someone who is 6’4” it means she won’t like anyone else? This makes little sense. Especially when she literally agreed to a date with you. Your problem sounds like a huge lack of confidence which women find very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:24 AM
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You do realize a lot of tall men complain about being chronically alone. Right? What have you done to change your situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:14 AM
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It’s very fake. It’s a way for manosphere influencers to sell content to basement dwellers and a way for feminists to try and make men look incompetent. These is no male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:08 AM
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How many of them are real friends though? Women tend to gossip about other people like no other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 06:07 AM
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You’re living in an echo chamber based on what a minority of women actually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:53 AM
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It’s really not that difficult. What women find unattractive are basement dwellers like the OP who get manipulated into believing this manosphere shit. Dude literally believes in eugenics because of dumb ass social media narratives. Besides. Trying to get all men in the future to be a round number or taller will have serious medical and environmental consequences. Being tall believe it or not is not actually very good genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 05:03 AM
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So the fact that the vast majority of men in marriages and relationships are under 6’0” is anecdotal?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:37 AM
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I’ve literally never had a problem. Not have anyone else I know really who don’t spend their lives habitually online. Plus you’re assuming the only purpose of men is to attract a lot of women? This sub is so weird. This is also just one study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:27 AM
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Which is why I said this sub is so damaging. Besides. If all men were really tall, they would put a burden on our healthcare system, the average male lifespan would lower and there would be a serious environmental impact. Tall people die earlier, are more prone to debilitating illnesses and drain a lot more resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:19 AM
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No they don’t. I’m 5’7” and have slept with over 130 women, have been in multiple long term relationships, etc. This sub is so damaging to people’s minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:14 AM
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So again, according to TikTok standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:12 AM
1

Why 5’8”? Good genetics according to TikTok?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:40 AM
1

Define lower tier as told by your pill religion. Even your language is culty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:47 AM
1

The fact that you have to ask only shows how manipulated you all are. Red Pill comes directly from the Tom Leykis show. The difference between his show that taught Leykis 101 dating advice and Red Pill is basically the same thing as copying your friends homework and changing it a little so it looks like you didn’t cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 03:34 AM
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It’s not an opinion and you do follow ideology that was literally designed to make money off of neckbeards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:49 AM
2

Dude. You believe in an ideology taken from a 90’s entertainment talk radio show. The host literally made fun of the men who bought into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:41 AM
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You have to be autistic to even believe in RP. And most men really don’t give a shit. After you reach a certain age, practically the entire dating pool has at least one kid. Remember. There’s a Male Loneliness Epidemic. Not a Single Mom Loneliness Epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:25 AM
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That’s just a Red Pill cope because she still won’t screw most of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:05 AM
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I think it should be common decency and being a little more classy. I have women I’m platonic friends with and have no sexual or romantic feelings towards. I’m still not trying to hear about their sex life. Even with my male friends. I’m not trying to hear about the girls they screw. I’m really not sure why some people let their sex life define them,
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:05 PM
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Only according to online cope
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:24 PM
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That’s just you though. For most people, the hot girl will win every time. Reddit opinions are not the best example of what men will do and who they will date/marry. Reddit makes fringe beliefs look like popular opinion. Reddit hates kids so much, there are even subs dedicated to hating them and rejecting parenting in a cult like way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:58 PM
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Not pretty either. You really think a hot, beautiful woman with a child is at a lower tier than an average/mediocre woman without one?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:41 PM
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I’m talking Megan Fox purely on looks and nothing else. You also act like having a kid also always requires surgery after. This pill ideology is really destroying your mind. Like I said earlier. Red Pills roots comes from an entertainment based radio show from the 90’s you never even heard of. Yet it’s become your worldview since being rebranded by influencers and sold to you. How can you even believe this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:19 PM
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So Megan Fox is average now? WTF? Stop letting your fedora speak for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:09 PM
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It’s generally the men getting dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:53 PM
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Tell on ourselves? What does that even mean, edgelord? Statistics do not align with your internet fantasy of pwning single moms, acting like all these men are gods gift, swimming in a harem of hot beautiful women. Over 73% of the American female population is overweight or obese. Add in the women who are skinny-fat, saggy or just plain ugly, the number of these attractive women gets significantly lower yet. The reality is, even a mid single mom has better dating options than an above average man…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:51 PM
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Anecdotes are fun. Do you honestly think you’re the only person attractive here? I’m here for the same reason I visit other fringe subs. Because the mentality is highly entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:59 AM
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You say lots of options like it’s raining highly attractive women when in fact less than 10% of women, kid or not are as attractive as you’re making so many of them out to be. Most of you spend way too much of your life believing Social Media. I mean look at you. You identify with an ideology created by a 1990’s entertainment radio shock jock that was rebranded into Red Pill and sold to young guys not old enough to have ever heard the show.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:56 AM
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Once you leave dumb ass Reddit gender war debates, men very much do. Absolutely nothing in this sub is real. Not Red Pill, not Blue Pill, not Black Pill or anything in between. Not to mention most of you talk about high earning attractive men like you want to suck them off. These echo chambers are weird. But the mentality is highly entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 09:50 AM
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They’re really not though. That’s the problem with these dumb ass pill ideologies. They’re not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:22 AM
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I would assume even the Reddest of Red Pills in this sub would jump at the chance to date one. Most of these guys are angry and lonely. So they project that onto people they know they can’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:22 AM
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A lot of that depends on how attractive she is. Do you think the average man will turn down an 8-10 who has a kid or two? I’ve never seen even a single mom who is a 6, struggle to find a man. Or many men if that’s her thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:19 AM
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But these Red Pill guys want to pretend like these women are dying of thirst in the desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:16 AM
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Their pool is still significantly larger than the typical Red Pill man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:15 AM
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I think it has more to do with how frequently. When someone plays enough to call themselves a gamer, it’s pretty much the only thing they do. Women run because they have been with guys like this. Still playing at 3am when he started right after dinner. A Victory Royale is more important than an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:49 PM
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How exactly is it a red flag? Hate to break it to you but not all women are like Reddit perceives them. Most of you wouldn’t even be fun to be around. Fortunately the women I know in real life are nothing like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:17 PM
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Why does he have to be random and lifeless? You were obviously good enough for him to take interest while men like me change lovers like I change my jeans. If you feel you’re better off alone, you’re probably self absorbed in the first place. I prefer women who are a bit more humble.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:40 PM
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What’s wrong with decent and acceptable? A lot of women are too vain I guess. Most women aren’t even high standard. Why expect to be seen as such? If you got it, you got it. If you don’t, be happy someone is paying attention to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:00 PM
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Here’s something to consider though. In a lot of trades, the older guys are no longer breaking their backs. Unless you’re incompetent, unable to advance, it’s generally the younger guys doing the back breaking work. If you have a chance to look at a construction site, notice who is working the shovels and jackhammers and who is sitting on their ass in an excavator all day or holding a clipboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:48 AM
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Define affordable though. I pay $1100 for an 1100sq ft apartment in a very nice area by the lake. I only pay for electricity. I can get a single bedroom for just over $800. I can get a mortgage on a 3 bedroom home for about the same price if my credit was good. Wages are generally determined by the cost of living and unlike a teacher, I know utility workers making something like $200k a year. Michigans prevailing wage is around $60 an hour just for a general laborer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:19 AM
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I would assume that states paying $100k also have a completely different cost of living. $100k in the Bay Area for instance is like $40k in Detroit. And either way, you still have all those student loans. Men go out and get paid to learn through trade apprenticeships. Women rack up loan debt for the same pay or less. When men go to college, it’s more likely to be something like a doctor, lawyer, surgeon or engineer. Women are going for entry level pay. I bet if a teacher made what an electrical …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:06 AM
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Are dads more distant? Or are dads always at work to keep the family afloat? When I couldn’t spend adequate time with my son, it’s because I had to work long hours to keep the lights on and put food on the table. Wanna know what allowed me to spend more time with my son? Pancreatic cancer making me disabled. Unlike women, we don’t have the luxury to leave work early, take days off to attend field trips, PTO, etc. if we did, we would be fired. Women are given many more accommodations for parentin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:37 AM
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Men aren’t going to work for what teachers are paid. You accumulate all this loan debt to make less money than a union general laborer. You see a lot more women in positions like teacher, therapist, social worker, etc because women are much less likely to want to work with their hands or get dirty in a pair of work boots and hard hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:34 AM
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Of you could just research it yourself. Male Loneliness Epidemic is a way for Red Pill podcasters to sell their content and for feminists to accuse men of being incompetent. But the data used to claim this epidemic came from 2021 when men’s spaces were closed thanks to COVID lockdowns and we were stuck at home. If we were to use 2025 data, male and female loneliness is pretty equal and isn’t really that bad. Compare new vs old data from sources like Pew and you will see what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:55 PM
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And most of these men who look like lumberjacks could never cut a tree down even if they had to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:20 PM
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There is no male loneliness epidemic and this is just some stupid internet buzzword.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:18 PM
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This is false. What is known as high value men want attractive women. Get cancer and you’re no longer attractive at the cost of becoming a bigger financial burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:47 PM
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So do what you can to make yourself more good looking. If you’re truly average, there are things you can do to enhance that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:41 PM
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The character thing comes with seeing a woman as a trophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:33 AM
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I’m generally the guy they want to marry. Or at least get into a relationship with. But the attention I get since getting into shape is like something I’ve never experienced before. So I won’t lie and say it hasn’t boosted my ego to the point of becoming incredibly picky in that sense. I tend to get bored with them rather easy and chase the next experience. Keep in mind that right before my body transformation and glow up, I ended a 13 year long relationship. I do have one I have kept around as …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:31 AM
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I spend over 2 hours a day in the gym while women claim they prefer a dad bod and only other men look at muscles. It wasn’t my dad bod giving me dates practically every day of the week however. They want to claim men need to work on their personality. But I can assure you an attractive guy with a shitty or even bland personality does better than an average guy who is fun and has a gazillion friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:09 AM
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I never said men don’t give unsolicited advice. But their advice comes from experience while woman’s advice tends to be incredibly fabricated. Do you really think women here give a rats ass about bad outcomes? They seem to just want to hide their shallow standards. If anything, the advice they give is going to lead to bad outcomes. It’s one of the reasons why Red Pill exists in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:52 AM
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Umm why would I? That doesn’t even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:29 AM
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You’re not most people though. I know the advice is full of shit so I sit back and laugh. But I’m still trying to figure out why they go so far out of their way to lie. Are they just trying to hide their shallow standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:28 AM
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Women tend to look for a partner who is most likely to judge them though, hoping they won’t while passing up the men less likely to judge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:25 AM
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A lot of balding old men are pretty successful though. This seems to be the typical femcel insult. To attack age and hairline. But. Would they say that to let’s say Jason Statham who is both bald and old?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:20 AM
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The advice generally seems to be ways to hide their shallow standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:17 AM
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They aren’t usually being vague though. They flat out lie to make it seem like women are wonderful and the average joe actually has a shot. As someone who is actually successful with women, I’m going to tell you their advice is usually full of shit. I actually used to be invisible to women. How did I change that? By doing the exact opposite of the advice women on social media give.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:16 AM
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The advice is usually unsolicited. And it’s generally the exact opposite of what they actually want in a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:12 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:11 PM
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Go back and read your original post. You really think this way? It’s really not normal and nobody thinks this way outside of these echo chambers. You’re a victim of your own algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:38 PM
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Yes. Go outside and stop rotting your brain in these echo chambers. Some of you are just as bad as the incels here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:35 PM
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Yes. I want to be referred to as Dominus while I walk around saying Jupiters Cock all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:25 PM
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Even women I know would find this take weird and cringy. WTF is wrong with some of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:40 AM
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This tends to backfire on women greatly though as it’s generally the white collar guy who says he’s working late while having a mistress or two on the side. It’s also why men are so likely to leave a sick or dying spouse. When you make yourself a trophy, you have to maintain yourself as a trophy because you rejected the man who would be forever loyal even through later stage cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:25 PM
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I don’t believe in these dumb ass pills. It’s all a sham. Red Pill is basically feminism for edgy white guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:36 PM
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So what do you think about your ideology being created by a radio entertainer who even admitted it was only about making money? What happened here is someone else took this, branded it as Red Pill and sold it to a younger generation who would never be able to link it to its true origin. Why would you believe in such a thing? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:51 PM
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You’re assuming every woman who isn’t a strong conservative is a hardcore liberal which just isn’t so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:48 PM
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Experience with women? So you buy into propaganda created for a cash grab? That has incel written all over it. I’m certain you don’t even know the origin of Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:40 PM
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We’ll have they? I mean considering their entire ideology comes from a 1990’s radio entertainment shock jock that was rebranded into the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:28 PM
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Through sweat from intense heat and prolonged humidity? I’ve also lived with women. I’m pretty sure I know if she wears makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:27 AM
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I fail to see what your response has to do with anything I said? My comments were in response to the myth that we don’t know that “no makeup” looks like. I know I’m attractive, athletic and can get these hinds of women. Selecting women above my league? Because I know what no makeup means on an attractive woman? WTF are you even talking about? I’m not trying to ruin anything for you. I’m just telling you what these chemicals will do to your skin in the long term and it’s better to embrace what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:05 AM
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I do exceptionally well at dating. What competition? The majority of men in this country who are lazy, sedentary and don’t have my body let alone face and baby blue eyes women can’t seem to STFU about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:53 AM
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I prefer natural beauty. I also swim a lot, run a lot and gym a lot. To me, a woman who shares these things with me is a normal woman. Someone who can get dirty and sweaty and looks good doing it. I’d even argue that women who have to wear makeup daily, completely ruin their skin. It’s why athletic women in their 40’s still look attractive as they took care of their skin naturally rather than covering it with chemicals, destroying their natural beauty. Is this going to be you at 40? Full of wrin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:17 AM
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We know exactly what no makeup means. Some are ugly without it while others aren’t. The best way to find out is to take her swimming or take her to the gym for a high intensity workout where the sweat will be pouring down her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:57 PM
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My type consists of women who are actually fit and in shape. Someone who is going to do push day with me in the morning and a 10 mile hike on rest day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 10:44 AM
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I dunno. I’ve met some pretty hot country women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:59 AM
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Red Pill seems to have stolen most of their playbook from a 90’s/00’s entertainment talk radio show host who claimed it was all about making money. Modern “red pill” ideology borrows heavily from Tom Leykis. The only thing that separates “red pill” from “Leykis 101” which is a persona he adopted is that he didn’t argue women were evil or part of a feminist conspiracy. He focused on individual behavior, not ideology wars. It’s funny to think young men are forming their world view based on a cash …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:49 AM
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Just brutal honesty. What is there to debate? The fact that most women now are aiming way above their league? Your flair tells me this conversation wouldn’t go anywhere constructive. As does your ignorance on how the algorithms work on both dating apps and social media. It’s common knowledge that most men fail miserably on dating apps while men like me get more matches than I even have the attention span to message and respond to. But I have to wonder what a lot of these women think they even ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:32 PM
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How is that proving your point? The women passing them up are the women I would never commit to. Why? Because I don’t have to. It’s insane how women weighing 200+ think they have a chance with me when they should be dating in their own league.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:33 PM
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Men are more realistic in their standards for the most part. The men who claim they want any women really aren’t no prize. Yet get passed up by women who ain’t no prize either. But the influencers tell her she’s a queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:13 PM
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Notice I said some people are fucked. I don’t believe that’s most people. How would a guy know if he’s attractive when the average man’s facial features are being hidden by fat? Fat women can come off as cute with a bubbly face. Fat men cannot. The common man didn’t start struggling with dating until 73% of the population became overweight or obese. I’m probably quite a bit older than you so my level of attractiveness is going to be subjective as my dating prospects tend to range between their m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:07 PM
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I get likes from all walks of life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:55 PM
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If you don’t think the gym helps your face, you’re sadly mistaken. Some people are fucked. But I don’t believe that to be the average person. The gym helps with facial features that make men more attractive. It helps men's facial features by reducing facial fat for a more defined jawline, increasing blood flow to deliver nutrients for glowing skin, boosting collagen for firmness, and toning facial muscles through general fitness or specific facial exercises, leading to a chiseled, youthful, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:43 PM
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That’s what lazy people tell me. What about my genes make me successful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:31 PM
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Where did I claim to be an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:26 PM
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I just take care of myself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:25 PM
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He said “the next day, you should be moving onto other prospects”.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 03:24 PM
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Has Red Pill ever even touched a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:34 AM
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Why should life be all about romantic prospects though? Does Red Pill teach anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:30 AM
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I get tons of likes though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:21 AM
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I’m going to assume you’re very young and never saw dating before social media influence. Are you going to assume to know how we did things in the 90’s and early 2000’s? Who the fuck is Akash Singh? It’s obvious you’re way more habitually online than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:06 AM
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When about 90% of Americans are overweight or obese, it really is. I can also have sex with someone I don’t find attractive enough for a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:14 AM
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This is posted like a child
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:20 PM
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Bullshit. You get much more access to sex and much more exciting sex when you’re single or casually dating. If I ever get married, it’s going to be for intimacy and companionship. Sex in marriage eventually just becomes a routine. And why are some of you so obsessed with celebrities? It’s like some of you have never experienced life beyond what you see on social media and television.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:41 PM
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The problem is, attraction has been manipulated. People are making a lot of money off of exploiting women’s minds in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:04 PM
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Or maybe these women have social media brain rot. People are called influencers for a reason. Let’s also not pretend that the majority of women aren’t fat and don’t require a lot of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:15 PM
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For the same reason I might get McDonald’s instead of a steak. Not to mention we literally live in the middle of a fat epidemic where few people care about their health or bodies. It’s the only thing available a lot of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:13 PM
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You realize your gut is your second brain. Right? Yet therapists aren’t trained in metabolic health. If most people tried everything, 73% of the US population wouldn’t be overweight or obese. Plus a lot of nutrients people are missing are responsible for brain chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:47 AM
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How do you know your problems would actually benefit from therapy? I’m willing to bet that if everyone decided to move more and eat healthy, a lot of therapists would become unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:19 AM
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That’s completely different though. But I think for the common person, they should open their minds to other possibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 05:14 AM
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I’ve tried to kill myself too. Getting my health in order changed my life. There are published studies that show exercise is 1.5 times more successful at treating anxiety and depression than pharmaceuticals and therapy. You might want to research this stuff. Especially deficiencies and gut health before reacting with a closed mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:50 AM
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They always offer tools to cope. But never root cause intervention. A lot of mental health issues are related to poor gut health, nutritional decencies and lack of exercise. But you will never get help from a therapist with treating this or even a suggestion that it might be the problem. These issues cause hormonal imbalances. Plus your gut is your second brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:43 AM
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Let’s just say I never needed to pay a head shrinker to live my life. The really sad thing is just how much money they scam people out of while never actually treating the problem. There are studies that link a lot of mental health issues to metabolic health and lack of exercise. A therapist does not know how to treat this. But they will keep trying to get you to come back in order to collect that paycheck when you should be paying a nutritionist and personal trainer. Or better yet, learning on …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:20 AM
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I follow myself. You sound mad. Meaning therapy is not helping you control your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:06 AM
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I’ve never had a therapist help with any of this. A lot of times, your mental health can be fixed by yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:05 AM
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I’d argue therapy won’t help with much unless you have a true mental disorder
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:04 AM
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Or just drain your bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:02 AM
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Therapy is a bigger sham than pill ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:02 AM
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The biggest problem with dating is most women’s body fat percentage is way too high for their standards because they lack self control with the fork and are too lazy to lift weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:08 AM
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Before social media and dating apps, people just found other things to be attracted to. As a gym guy who is very fit, and healthy, I find it hypocritical and somewhat offensive. She wants a guy like me? Get off your lazy ass and get in the gym. And stop drinking that 1500 calories of Starbucks every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:38 AM
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Most fat men have zero problem. But these fat women want a guy like me. It’s absolutely ridiculous how many of them want to match with me on dating apps. Yet when I was fat, they wanted nothing to do with me. I wanted them then. But not a chance in hell now unless I’m just looking to get laid. 6 days a week in the gym for 3 years and they’re no longer my looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:02 AM
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Most men actually want their looksmatch. The problem is, too many women believe they are far more attractive than they actually are..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:38 AM
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Except most people aren’t obsessed with social media to the point of it influencing ideological identities. Imagine if you would have spent even half the time you spend on Reddit Karma on self improvement. How many hours did you do in the gym this week?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:51 AM
1

Then why are 73% of them overweight or obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:47 AM
2

Is that what you really took from my words? When did I start attracting women? When I stopped giving a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:43 AM
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Most men aren’t lonely Reddit losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:42 AM
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No you won’t. Gym gains for instance take passion and lifelong commitment for instance. Someone using pussy as a motivator will never stay consistent long term as the gym itself is a lifestyle that goes well beyond attracting women. Most of you Red Pillers will get that January gym membership only to tap out by February. You always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:40 AM
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Why would you take that from anything I said. Have men used podcasters and social media influencers during any other time in history to learn to attract women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:37 AM
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Being a failure has nothing to do with being selfless. These men were more likely just desperate. Being selfish, you’re still depending on romance to be happy. But where will you be if you can no longer live this fake persona you’ve created for yourself? It’s much better to actually be liked by people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:01 PM
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Based on what? This sub that 99.9% of men have never even heard of? I wouldn’t even know what red pill is that I not stumbled across this sub by mistake. Now I’m just here for the lol’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:38 PM
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Internet ideology is least likely to find you a hot woman. How do I get hot women? Fitness. I train in a way that no red pill snake oil salesman can teach. I also do it for my health which keeps you most consistent. Even after getting the hot girl, my training schedule is still two hours a day, six days a week. Because getting a hat girl wasn’t the reason. It was only the side effect which happened to be a positive one. I didn’t allow the type of girl I get either thing that defines me and I’m a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:11 PM
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You don’t need a dumb ass pill to improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:28 PM
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Men aren’t weak. Most men don’t subscribe to pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:25 PM
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Selfishness is the main thing that prevents men from succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:03 PM
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Well if I was Chad, I’d probably never get laid. Chad might have been the mega jock in the 80’s, but now he’s more likely to be a Pokémon Master with high Reddit karma. Even the rhetoric is dumb. I also never said nobody should change. But you need to change for yourself. Not for a relationship. In the end, you just become a shitty partner anyway if the ultimate goal is female validation. It’s a fake persona. Most of these guys are stuck on Reddit anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:57 PM
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You need to create attraction for yourself though. If you’re doing it specifically for women, it most likely won’t work for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:53 PM
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You’re not going to succeed at much if your motivation is pussy. And why dumb ass names like “Chad”? I don’t think Chad has been successful with women since 1985.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:51 PM
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The problem is, if you do it for women, you probably won’t succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:47 PM
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So red pill is just about fucking women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:43 PM
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You really don’t need some internet ideology to get married. I’d also argue that most men who follow this only become or remain card carrying incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:42 PM
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You teach how to get laughed at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:22 PM
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None of these pills organize for anything but an online gender war. It’s the battle of fedoras
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:15 PM
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Men succeed in numbers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:12 PM
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Dating apps make a lot more money by making women overvalue themselves. It keeps men thirsty and paying a fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:14 AM
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Not long? What makes you think that? It’s generally me who leaves someone fast as I’m looking for something very particular. The longer you fake something, the easier it becomes. The way I cope with my biggest insecurities gets mistaken for strength. I am often times told I’m an inspiration. But if they only knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:47 PM
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Men get ridiculed for wanting an attractive woman though. The “Women are wonderful” mob likes to call us fatphobic and misogynistic for not settling for anything less than our own level of attractiveness. When I complained I couldn’t find even a fat woman when I was fat, I was some woman hating incel. Now when I say I won’t settle as an attractive man who is in shape, now I’m shallow and still hate women. You literally can’t win. I also have news for you. Most of us get women by faking confidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 06:52 PM
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Do something to prevent that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 10:43 PM
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Where was this survey done? How many people were involved? How much makeup are these women wearing? Filters? Etc? Young men are also more increasingly single as they live more and more sedentary. Gen Z is more connected to the internet than any generation before them. When you spend most of your life with your nose glued to your phone or video game console, you seriously miss out on human interaction. I am far from what is called a Chad. Which is a weird name BTW because I never met a guy named …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:02 PM
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Yes. It’s called joining the real world free from these silly echo chambers. Self improvement goes a long way BTW.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:52 PM
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Jesus Christ. Your take is just as bad as Red Pill. The whole high value vs low value argument is just dumb. I’m not tall, I’m broke and lack confidence. I still do exceptionally well with women. As do most people who don’t spend two thirds of their lives on the internet. You’re also assuming that most women are endlessly looking for better options which just isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:30 PM
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I don’t think dating app statistics are good data however considering the algorithms are programmed to place more attractive men at the top of the stack. Could it be possible that average looking men aren’t being swiped on because their profiles aren’t even being seen? I’ve noticed this ok OK Cupid with women. They get uglier and uglier the more you swipe Women are also using the free version a lot more than men are meaning there are strict limits on how many men they can even swipe on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:10 PM
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Oh look. It’s you again. Obsessing over fairytales about men when you could be spending your Sunday actually being productive. Every time I do much as peek my head in here, it’s the same usual suspects posting the same predictable things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:02 PM
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I’m pretty sure I did leg day. Most of these women don’t do any day considering the average female body fat percentage is 39.9%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:10 AM
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Umm my longest was 13 years before I left her because she was such a shitty person. You’re so happily married that you have a whole lot of karma for only a 10 month old account. Why don’t you pay your wife the same attention you pay Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:12 PM
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I believe a woman should match the man she wants instead of being his fuck zone toy he’s too embarrassed to bring around his friends and family. I mean I’m working quads, glutes, hamstrings and calves right now on a Saturday night. What are they doing to match that? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:38 PM
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Says the person having a complete meltdown on a social media post. How long I’ve been married is really none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:43 PM
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How in the fuck is it ignorant? You make no sense. But then again you subscribe to pills which literally tells me everything I need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:23 PM
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People should do as they please without listening to stupid influencers. This is a very weak mind. If she wants to cook for her boyfriend, she should. If she doesn’t, she shouldn’t. But he’s also under no obligation to stay with her, pay for dinner, change her tire or anything else that could be considered marriage privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:41 PM
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Anybody who needs a social media influencer to make their decisions for them has no business being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:28 PM
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This is a very childish take
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:23 PM
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She only proves my point on just how deranged modern feminists are..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:35 AM
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Well feminists everywhere ran to support this girl <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:51 AM
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It’s not meant to offend. It’s reality. The average female body fat percentage in America is 39.9. Imagine if women cared as much about their health as they do about obsessively doing domestic chores and cooking large meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:11 PM
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We do what’s necessary without making it our entire reason for existence. There is much more to life that these neat freak women are missing out on. It’s no wonder why they all get fat during marriage. My lunch took 30 seconds to make today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:57 PM
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You weird pill people here act like every woman is a mother to a young child or children. Cooking also does not have to be a giant production. It’s no wonder why married men are much fatter than single men. Always having food stuck in their faces. Meanwhile, it takes me 5 to 10 minutes to grill up a chicken wrap and some rice. My lunch was just a protein shake with oats. That took less than a minute to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:49 PM
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So the only alternative to being a neat freak is living in a shit hole with roaches? If only these women treated their bodies as good as they treated their homes. No time for the gym though. I have to clean for the eighth time today.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:45 PM
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Or they’re doing an unnecessary amount of household labor because that’s how their brains are wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:31 PM
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She’s for the streets
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:31 PM
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They don’t have any sources. Just baseless stereotypes while we have men spending tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees just to get a little more time with their children. The rest of us can’t afford that. My ex is an alcoholic, convicted domestic abuser and child abuser. Yet she still has primary physical custody and uses our son for ransom for child support. My biggest mistake was leaving and not taking the abuse until he was 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:19 PM
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It’s only assumed that 50/50 is the preferred default. People try and dispute men’s custody struggles with arguments claiming that men get 50-50 when they go to court for it. They even quote studies. But what they either don’t realize or choose to ignore. It’s the fact that that 50-50 generally only applies to legal custody. Physical custody is a different issue altogether, and goes to the mother the majority of the time with the father getting a schedule like every other weekend and an obligati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 06:12 AM
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Most of these guys are fat, broke virgin losers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 11:24 PM
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I never claimed to be Kendrick Lamar. But I’m also not the typical Reddit loser who can’t find a girlfriend and blames the whole world for him being seen as creepy and socially awkward. Why is PPD so obsessed with celebrity lifestyles BTW?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:46 PM
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If you say so. Weak boys who spend two thirds of their lives on the internet are not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:02 PM
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People remain people but they don’t remain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:12 PM
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How is it misandrist if they’re not men? Half of these boys are brainwashed by podcasters while the blue pill ones are self loathing and kiss women’s asses to the point where they would literally cuckold for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:04 PM
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I don’t consider the people who post here to be actual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:05 PM
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Or maybe you just need to leave Reddit. Most Reddit men aren’t real men. I’m on my way to the gym right now and then having on a date later while most so called men in this sub will be working on their karma count and next Victory Royale. I’ll be spending my money on dinner and drinks for two. They will be spending theirs on V-Bucks and hentai porn subscriptions. We aren’t the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:10 PM
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Most men have common spaces. Just not the losers on Reddit. Also, why is it assumed men are lonely because of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:49 PM
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Physical attraction is known pretty instantly. Mental attraction totaled time but there still has to be that initial spark.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:09 PM
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I could never have real long term romantic feelings towards somebody I’m not attracted to both physically and mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:57 AM
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Umm I don’t have a 6 pack and am plenty successful with women. In most surveys, women will tell you they don’t like a 6 pack and prefer a little more meat around a guys abdomen. With broad shoulders, strong arms and a developed chest. Keep your chest bigger than your stomach and you don’t need a 6 pack. Most women are also turned off by the lifestyle it requires to have a 6 pack as you’re going to act like a little bitch on Taco Tuesday eating salad and drinking lemon water.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:41 AM
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My nutrition and lifting routine was already a cheat code as I have the biggest chest and biceps in the room practically anywhere I go. And no I didn’t get laid before.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:34 AM
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You don’t need to look like Henry Cavill to get laid. It’s so weird how this sub thinks you need to look like a celebrity to find women. Creatine, protein, healthy foods and a consistent lifting routine already puts you in the top 10% of men. And without the shitty side effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:29 AM
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Most women don’t want a guy with a tren body. Thats how you start looking like a mutant which women don’t want. Thats how you also see your balls shrink while developing erectile dysfunction. I get laid regularly. I don’t use steroids. I just train hard and supplement naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:16 AM
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Umm most women don’t find masculinity unattractive except for maybe extreme leftists. It’s listening to dumb advice like this that won’t get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 02:11 AM
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Wrong. Most men get legal 50-50. Not physical 50-50. To win a physical custody battle it cost tens of thousands of dollars in attorney fees. When there never should’ve been a battle in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:05 PM
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We do. The judges say no.as the system is designed to favor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:50 PM
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Nope. My ex can give me my son instead and pay me child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:44 PM
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Of course. My baby momma who I was with for 13 years was fat. Then I entered the modern dating market where body positivity turned obese into curvy. So I learned very early on that I had to transform my body. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:13 PM
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Your opinion seems to be backed more by Internet narratives, and feminist blogs. The same narrative that claims there to be some fake male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:38 PM
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What does that have to do with women being clingy with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:01 PM
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They’re not too far off considering I didn’t get any attention from even fat girls five years ago when I was fat. Then I developed a gym body and they started flooding my DM’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:01 PM
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My language has nothing to do with it. Reddit has called me fatphobic just for simply stating I prefer a woman with an active lifestyle and attractive body
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:59 PM
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I would be laughing at myself because I see these women in the exact same way they are. Obviously, if I know I’m going to get laughed at. I already know she’s unattractive. I’m also not trying to influence anyone to follow them. Only to be realistic about their own standards. I feel the same way as the hot girl when a 5’4” 250 lb man approaches her. But when she rejects him, he’s just a creep. When I reject an equally repulsive looking woman who thinks makeup and fashion makes her hot and curvy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:54 PM
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A lack of confidence would mean settling for a disgusting fat body. If other people are going to laugh at me for dating her, I would obviously be laughing at myself as well. I have news for you. Dating a woman who does not care about her body enough to do something about. It is not in my best interest. This take is going to be unpopular on Reddit because the majority of the user base here is fat and sedentary. If I wanted a fat girl, I would just stay fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:44 PM
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How is it not manly? It’s just plain embarrassing and would feel like charity work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:39 PM
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It’s not the coffee. It’s the excessive calories. Coffee has virtually no calories until you start pumping all kinds of unhealthy bullshit into it which keeps you fat. These high calorie flavorings are a Starbucks staple. A lot of these same basic white girls will use tuesdays as an excuse to shove down 2000+ calories of tacos and margaritas. Then they blame being fat on hormones or some kind of medical issue. How am I different than these women? I actually take care of my health and body. I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:35 PM
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These are the women men call at 12 AM instead of 12 PM..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:19 PM
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I used dating subs as an example. But purple pill debate tries to pretend that all these women are running around like they’re in Sex and the City. Even my casual dating experiences, results in women trying to cling to me after barely even knowing them yet just because we slept together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:17 PM
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Because I’m a hopeless romantic. I have a fun single life. But romance defines me more. But what do I do to find this from the kind of woman I want? Thrive to make myself the best version of myself I possibly can. But unfortunately most women would rather stand in the Starbucks line getting fat from sugary calories instead of going to the fucking gym. If a woman really wants a higher value man, she needs to actually give a fuck about her body and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:13 PM
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Not if you do it right. Rest days like that are only needed if you’re doing full body exercises or upper/lower body. If you work out your muscles strategically, you don’t need rest days because you’re resting muscles on the days you’re working others. Chest, front & side delts and triceps all work together for instance. These are all pushing muscles. If you’re only doing pushing exercises, the rest of your muscles are at rest. Now while doing pull muscles (back, rear delts and biceps) the next d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:02 PM
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Most people do though. These Reddit delusions that all these women are running around happily single are not rooted in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:44 PM
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Most of them either act desperate around the men they want or they turn into femcels and spend two thirds of their lives bashing men on social media. These women aren’t out there living their best lives like Reddit wants you to believe. I had to get rid of yet another clinger just yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:43 PM
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Umm have you been in the dating subs? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:39 PM
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In order to settle for nothing but the best, you need to be your best. Treat your body like a temple. Not a trap house. With the number of women who are overweight, obese and morbidly obese, most of you don’t look good enough for your standards and being in public with you attached to my arm would literally be embarrassing. Even worse, I would have to face judgement and laughter from my friends, family and even my young teenage son.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:36 PM
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Nobody wanted to fuck Rich Piana either before the roids took him out and nobody wants to fuck Sam Sulek now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:05 AM
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I’m lonely and have all that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:50 AM
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My muscle seems to work even better in real life. I’m also older than most people here so it could possibly be my demographic. My 50 and generally date women between their mid 30’s and mid 50’s. I also have just enough muscle and not the unattractive steroid kind. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:29 PM
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My 5’7” height matters much less with muscle. Especially in real life and not on apps. But I still get my fair share of matches I didn’t get as a fat guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:48 PM
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I belong to many and don’t really see this. It’s generally the guys on steroids who look like mutants who have trouble finding women. Nobody wants to fuck Dom from Gears of War. They also don’t want the bald bearded bandana guy who only wears black like Robert Frank. A muscular natty body is what women seem to like the most. Especially if he grooms and dresses stylish. I lift weights every day and have much success with women. But my supplements consist of protein and creatine. Not Tren and Test…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:40 PM
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Here’s the thing about makeup. We might reject you the next day after we see what you really look like without your face done up. So while I don’t have a problem with makeup, I believe it should be used as an enhancement. Not as a makeover.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:36 PM
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Here’s a good read on the subject https://prohibition.themobmuseum.org/the-history/how-prohibition-changed-american-culture/dating-during-prohibition/#:~:text=More%20women%20were%20gaining%20independence,meant%20to%20lead%20to%20marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:36 PM
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You obviously haven’t. Courtships had family involvement, no sex, and the goal of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:28 PM
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No, it’s not. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:26 PM
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You might wanna research the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:24 PM
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Dating comes without expectations. A courtship was basically the same as we now see a relationship but with very defined gender roles. The only reason men ever paid for it was because most women were poor. Most women who were in the workforce back then were only there to find husbands. That was the whole point of working as a stewardess or in a department store.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:23 PM
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Nope. Courting came with the expectation of marriage and had a lot of family involvement. Including the woman’s family paying for it. Courting was commitment focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:15 PM
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No. He wasn’t born until 43. But my grandmother was born in the early 20’s and ended up a pregnant teen. Women were not as innocent as people believe now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:12 PM
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Courting and dating are entirely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:10 PM
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My dad was quite the player back in the day so this is false
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:06 PM
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Wanna know how Boomer and Gen X men got laid? By not coming to subs like this one. Get off the internet and go meet someone like they did. Victimhood culture is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:00 AM
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Social norms are still very strong. The vast majority of the women who match with me say they’re not looking for a serial dater right on their profile. There are a whole lot of women who still have integrity and don’t want multiple guys shoving their dicks in her while getting to know someone. A lot of people still date with a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:10 PM
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Well I hope she finds the help she needs then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:46 PM
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You can fake anything if you put your mind to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:42 PM
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You know that’s a lie? The only default flair that has man in the title is red, blue or purple. So I quickly picked the one that wasn’t red or blue. Still lying? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:29 PM
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You have to use flair that specifically includes Man to comment on posts labeled “question for men. When I needed flair to respond to one of these questions, I picked the only one that had Man in the title. Now I know for some of you, this sub is all you have. Especially as a top 1% commenter. But this place really isn’t that important to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:04 PM
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My label says purple pill because I’m too lazy to figure out how to make custom flair and it’s the only preset option that allows me to reply to questions for men. You don’t have to label anything a relationship to have a mutual expectation not to fuck other people. Most people both men and women don’t like getting to know whores. I’m going to assume you’re very new to dating if you’ve ever even dated before. Most people aren’t out fucking other people while getting to know someone for a potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:46 PM
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The fact that you think every man subscribes to some dumb manosphere only proves you’re still a child. Have you ever had interaction with any actual men outside of this sub? Most actual adults have integrity and aren’t interested in fucking other people in the getting to know you phases. You seem to be a victim of Reddit ideology that doesn’t really exist in the real world. Maybe if you weren’t a top 1% commenter, you could have real human interaction and realize just how dumb these pills really…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:24 PM
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I have a really nice ass from squats , deadlifts, rack pulls and hip thrusts twice a week. None of my friends are coming near my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:17 PM
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I’m guessing the OP is very, very young as your post reminds me of dating in high school. You don’t have to declare someone as your girlfriend to expect a level of exclusivity while still just dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:02 PM
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And why do you think they like every profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:51 AM
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Well women also believe in zodiac signs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:34 AM
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My point is people like you need to stop the propaganda and touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:08 PM
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What doesn’t exist is an epidemic. This is a media buzzword. Not a clinical definition. But people like you are so trapped inside of echo chambers, these narratives are real life to you. Studies also show practically no difference between male and female loneliness. But that still doesn’t stop the narrative that people like you believe as gospel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:36 PM
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Says the obese Redditor who actually believes this pill shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 06:58 PM
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Nothing because this so called epidemic doesn’t exist. It’s a buzz word used in this meaningless online gender war. Manosphere people use it to shame women while feminists use it to shame men. There’s also this assumption that male loneliness is exclusively related to not having girlfriends or friends which is false as well. The data most people use on male loneliness comes from 2021 during COVID lockdowns where men were barred from their spaces. No gyms, no cigar lounges, no poker, no cornhole,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:18 PM
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Delusion is the echo chamber that is this sub. It’s pathetic how people like you literally believe these narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:12 AM
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Or they aren’t defined by possessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 06:21 AM
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I’m flat out honest about being broke. Not only do women fuck me, but they also spend money on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 06:19 AM
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Why would a man twice as good as you want you for anything but a hole though? Why lower yourself to that of a cum sock?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 06:14 AM
3

Mostly self inflicted. Accidents are up there too. Should probably stop drinking White Claws and texting & driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 04:31 AM
4

Well murder isn’t even in the top 10 for leading causes of female deaths. In other words, they’re a danger to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:49 AM
4

Men aren’t the biggest danger to women. But y’all are only really attracted to the ones who could be a danger. Then there’s people like the Reddit Feminist who lives obese in an online gender war taking about men who would never touch them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:34 PM
2

Those places have zero to few women because they’re men’s spaces. Guy music, guy atmosphere, guy drinks, talking about guy shit. Classic rock, poker, pool, cornhole and horseshoes instead of club music, dancing and fuccboi’s. I’m also not proving anything because while you claim you won’t go home with a man, so many will as I’ve had many from both bars & dating apps. I’ve had women come to my apartment after exchanging as little as 5 messages on Tinder. You can also train your kids all you want.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:27 PM
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I strongly disagree. Do you have any idea just how much first date sex and one night stands I’ve had this year alone? I bring a lot of women I don’t even know to my apartment. I’m also not talking about dives. The higher end places are much more prone to things like human trafficking as these places contain higher value women than a dive on C Section Saturdays. And for the record, a woman is probably safer in a bar full of bikers you want to stereotype. These dudes would be the first to put a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:52 PM
5

I’ve worked in clubs when I was younger. These places are very dark and dangerous. And where do you think a lot of them met these partners? It’s ironic how women pick the men who can be the most dangerous as their partner and protector.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:46 PM
11

Women’s habits tend to say “No Fear” though. A lot of you go clubbing half dressed to places I wouldn’t go to with a gun and bulletproof vest on, accepting drinks from strange men and even leaving with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:20 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:51 AM
11

What is there not to understand? It’s apparent you blue pill men seem to think all of these women are out living their best man free lives based on very vocal minorities of radical feminist women on the internet. Women men don’t want in the first place but pretend like they speak for women everywhere. Go walk around your city and ask a bunch of random women what they think about the 4B movement. Most won’t have any idea WTF you’re even talking about. Men are not experiencing this huge drought li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:29 AM
12

That only says you have no real experience with women outside of Reddit subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:16 AM
26

What women say and do are often times very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 01:14 AM
1

It takes two to create that kid. Saying anything else is in fact chronically online bullshit. I live my life in the real world. I come here for cheap entertainment which includes this sub and others consisting of fringe ideologies. Y’all never disappoint and the laughs I get from all of you helped me through chemotherapy this past summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:36 PM
2

Everyone is accountable for their own actions. You included. You choose to live your life for taking part in the battle of femcels versus incels. You need to take accountability for wasting your life away on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:37 PM
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