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NYE Purge Post!WicGoingAnonymous/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/20 12:09 AM
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She's a fucking chan
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 11:19 AM
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Poking holes in condomns? No, they wouldn't get called predatory, because that's not predatory. That's abusive/manipulative/straight up evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:06 PM
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Haven't you noticed it getting better? Like, I'm assuming you are a teenager, take 5 years of your age and compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:04 PM
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Few differences: First, I asked whether or not there is a basis for that assumption, because my warning had an actual basis. Is there a basis for saying that single mom baby-trap? Secondly, I'm not making personal judgement and every time I talk about this topic, I'm trying to be very aware of not judging every single older person that's attracted to a younger person...since that's normal. I explicitly say that it's a cost VS benefits analyses. I'm not saying that being attracted to young people…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:10 PM
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Do you have any basis for saying that they intentionnally try to get pregnant? Lying about using birth control while never even having a prescription? Poking holes in condomns? Conversations that happened about baby-trapping? Because with the later 2, the women would emediatly get torched. With the first example, half the people would hold torches and the other half is asking about your condomn use and whether the lack of a condomn was by choice or pressure by her. The only fucking time you get …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:10 AM
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Fanfiction bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:41 AM
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Age 23 is based on the prefrontal cortex and that most 23y olds will have some real life experiences (paying rent/having a job because they need money for something other then extra's), it's not based on the 7-rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:03 AM
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(I'm not FDS) You sound mouthy and independent: age difference is not an issue then. You are 25: anything above 23 is not an issue. You have a degree, so I assume you have graduated and are currently working?: age difference is not an issue. do this so older men (who hit the wall) are unable to get a young, hot women Most people (not just FDS) don't say this, so that we can cut off older men from hot women, but because we've noticed that abusers use this as a tactic. They go for younger people o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:12 AM
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Sigh. People really misinterpret how this works. Is everyone really misunderstanding how this works if you are the odd one out? (I made sure to reverse the genders because women always agree when you label men but disagree when you label women) And you are arguing with me, have I been doing that so far? Let me put it this way. Every person is unique. But every person has things in common from demographs. If... Profiling is the word. I know what profiling is. But you stated that women avoid men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 12:21 PM
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Youre saying you hate men that put women into categories, but then you reply by saying you hate men in certain categories like men that lecture you about video games. I actually didn't use the word hate and even if I did, what you described is hating the behavior, not men. That's an important difference. Isnt that a type of male you have put into a group? No, they are not in a group. So why is it any different when women show behaviours I dont like and put them in that group? Why can't you just …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 11:47 AM
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Does that mean if a woman is cautious of men she is sexist? No. It helps protect her based on things she has learned about men. If you are cautious, then you having put the guy in the 'violent' category yet. There's no "you are violent because you are male". There's a maybe. And in my experience, men that put women into categories, don't use maybe. If I like games, then I'm a gamer girl and I must be super into games, to the point of knowing all that extra information (IDGAF), I should be part o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:49 AM
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You coulda just said "I'm not like other girls" which all men have heard a million times before. In which case, the conversation would be about my make-up collection. "I thought you weren't like other girls??? Explain!!!" Obviously not all 100% of women do X. But its more likely she will do X. Which isn't a great attitude to have if you are trying to build a relationship with someone. I don't want to defend myself from shit I haven't ever done before. Why do all women on this subreddit go straig…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:42 AM
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These guys usually know nothing about womens behaviour as a gender like we discuss on this forum. Yeah, I actually prefer these men. I think women kinda love these guys because they are easily manipulated No. These men take the time to know who I am. They are not constantly comparing me to other women. "Oh, so you like gaming on the switch. I see that you have smash bro's. So... Did you know that this isn't the first Smash bros? Ah...you did. Do you know what's different in this Smash bros? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 08:56 AM
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I'm in the men are less likely to open up about their emotions front.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:17 AM
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An age gap is a power imbalance because it's an experience gap. It's not an imbalance because "eww old men", it's because the older person has real life experience over the younger person. An experience gap in sex isn't a power imbalance. It doesn't suddenly give someone the ability to manipulate the inexperienced person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 04:46 PM
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And you don't think that your fellow men won't fuck the super drunk chick? Even after all the mocking and complaining about drunk rape laws? After the counter-campaigning with "that's what she said"? After mocking #MeToo? And complaining that there's no way for them to know? That we're asking them to look into the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:44 AM
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K and how about informed consent? A girl is too drunk to say her own name, but willing to fuck you. Can you stay hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:58 AM
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Rape isn't only the violent forcefull act while the girl is screaming no. Rape also occurs when there is no ability to consent. And that's when the arguments happen, and when men start to complain about #MeToo. Because apparantly it sucks that you gotta try to find out whether the girl is actually completely willing to have sex with you. "How the fuck do we know??? Do we need to start writing contracts before having sex???". (Insert multiple mockings about informed consent), (insert new found wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:56 AM
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And the other children that don't get CS? The children should be surviving without CS. That's the problem. And not a problem in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:40 PM
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Or adoption And if he doesn't want the baby and she wants to keep it, then she's going to be raising the baby alone either way. We don't have forced child custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:35 PM
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Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:29 PM
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Your post comes off obsessive and pathetic. If you are going to explain this situation IRL in a simular manner, then people will be turned off. There's nothing wrong with going to a hooker, but own it. Don't go "please forgive me oh masters, I couldn't last any longer". It's sad. People don't like to date sad. People like to date "yeah, I don't have any problems with sex work and I had a long period of no sex and got curious and though "why not?"".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:24 PM
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I'm pro opt-out, she can opt-out if she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:17 PM
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I think it's gonna depend way more on your explenation then anything else. As in, you are gonna have to nail the safety/verified aspect in the conversation (I suggest including a vaccination for HP), without coming off obsessive and you are going to have to clarify that it was need-based, without coming off pathetic. That's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:15 PM
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Same morals as me, same politics as me, same goals as me, willing to be a team as type of relationship, equity > equality, 2yes type of relationship, smart in a streets type of way, tech skills, flexible concerning some of my ocd-like traits, cares for me, supportive, love, needs to want to get daily lunch-bento's. Oh...and I already have him...except the bento's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:09 PM
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If you are the type of guy that doesn't have a problem with going to escorts, then the type of girl that does have a problem with it isn't your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:59 PM
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I'm the person suggesting they get 100.000 per kid for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:44 PM
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Get a vasectomy, freeze sperm, have crazy sex. 2. Not have sex. 3. Not have sex with a woman. 4. Not have sex with a woman who is pre-menopause. 5. Not have sex with a fertile woman. 6. Not have PIV sex, stick to oral and handjobs. 7. Wear a condom. 8. Not ejaculate inside the woman. And none of these things, should come with an 18year punishment. But its also immoral to make the woman pay 100% of the cost, do 100% of the labor, and carry 100% of the pregnancy of a child with only 50% of her gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:24 PM
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No... it's a new attitude massively rising in popularity? And I'm an advocate for it? It has been on the ballet twice in the European Union? People should be able to choose being a parent. That's a huge part of life that can massive determine it's path. It's fair that you can choose. Just like it's fair to share the cost of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:06 PM
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I was talking more... controversial. Pregnancy takes a huge toll on the body. An average surrogate costs 200.000. The women that get pregnant from sex currently always carrying the pregnancy for free. If you can opt-out because you didn't choose to become a father. Then you should opt-in with 100.000 if you do want paternal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:49 PM
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Clothing raises SMV. It's why men get more attractive when they agew because they suddenly have to wear business appropriate clothes. It's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:03 PM
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Here's an actual argument against paper abortions: if we are going to artificially fix the biological unfairness in pregnancy, then we are not going to stop at the ability to choose. Then we're fixing everything. And besides the ability to choose: men win by a lot. And that all should go away then, we're making things equal. And I'm not actually saying that as a threat. That's completely fair. But most people in favor of opt-out, don't actually want to lose the rest of their priveleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 05:53 PM
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Ok, but why is it so unfair then if I also want to artificially make the pregnancy and giving birth part equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 05:47 PM
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Rape comes natural for men Consent and holding back is what they actively choose over rape, because we humans have self control. But the urge to rape is what's natural and what comes out when control is lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 05:20 PM
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Stop taking so many pain medication for your period, you are gonna build up a tolerance and get migraines induced by you thinning your blood with the damn things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:19 AM
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What, a long acting reversible contraceptive? If my daughter asked for it at 14, I wouldn't stop her. You should act in her best interesst and her getting a IUD or implant is not in her best interesst. Doctors will refuse her at 14 (excluding some third world countries where it actually would be in her best interesst). I have a feeling that you just haven't been properly informed on them and that you think that they are as low impact as the pill or slightly worse. Also people are more responsibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 06:04 AM
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I didn't mention sex Ed access to birth control? And except condomn, I'm saying that their age makes them ineligible for birth control. They are just not old enough to properly use the stuff. The pill doesn't work if you only take the thing 90% of the time. Besides, they are starting puberty. Why the fuck would we shoot them in the foot before it's even sure that they are going to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:18 PM
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The part of the brain that would be most suitable for making sure that they behave properly with the pill, isn't fully grown until almost a decade later.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:04 PM
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But they aren't smart enough for the pill...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 02:54 PM
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But they aren't smart enough to use the pill. And no, the rest of the stuff is too horrible for a 13y old girl, abortion pill is better. And you we're arguing for them to start at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:37 AM
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That one wasn't on my list of interpretations... I guess a 100/100?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:30 AM
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Why: more information is available wide-spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:28 AM
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You would trust a 13 y old to take a pill every day at the same hour, regardless of life circumstances and to pay attention to +10 items that are dangerous to the pill, amongst one a very popular rite of passage for teenage girls? ...when a lot of adults fail at that? For the rest of the birth control: you would do that to a 13y old?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:26 AM
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If you were ever actually in love with him, you would see no need to discontinue it. I don't think he loves me anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 06:43 PM
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Not young. It's not going away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 05:07 PM
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And the tiny minority gets defended by the majority unless they actually lose control and rape. So... But even if all this is true, all these disgusting aspects of male should put you off to "love". Doesn't fucking help when I'm already in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 05:03 PM
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There is always something distasteful about any man. No man is ideal. Yup Because men are not prone to rape, not in my view or experience. Because we have laws and self control, but didn't you notice the bitching about MeToo and not being able to fuck someone that's black-out drunk? The laws are the only thing keeping a majority of them in check and when the laws get changed so more and more rape gets included, they throw a hissy fit because another loophole for rape gets closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:53 PM
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No and I can name a bunch of worse stereotype's about men. Like, if your intent was to push me into disgust: you used some very mild shit. Why not mention how prone they are to rape? Just yesterday I was arguing with someone on this sub hellbent on defending a rapist who admits his own actions, just doesn't think it's rape (so no he/she said, he fucking did it). And it wouldn't work anyway because even if a majority actually are like the stereotype claims, there's always people that are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:45 PM
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I am a woman. I was talking about being in love with a specific man. I want it off now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:36 PM
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Well if you are just going to talk about something that's not relevant to what I said, then why quote me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:28 PM
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But I didn't say that lust isn't important. I said that love at first sight isn't love. If you don't know the person, it's just lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:25 PM
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But if you only feel lust, then it's lust, not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:06 PM
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I can turn it off, that's not the problem. The problem is that I can't turn off love, when I've fallen in deep love (so none of that attraction at first sight bullshit: that's lust).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:58 PM
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How (or whether) do you expect him to take responsibility for relationships? What does this even mean? If you're comfortable with discussing it, what about sexual roles? I need him to be more dominant. It doesn't have to be extremely dominant and I can switch on occasion...but that does 0 for me. How do you share domestic chores? Proportional or outsourced How do you share financial responsibility? Proportional
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:29 PM
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Did I specify that the strategy had to be sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:57 PM
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You just linked a post describing RP as a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:32 PM
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Why does it have to be moralized to be valid in your eyes? I didn't say it had to be moralized What does the discussion over consent have to do with biology? Because RP is about strategy (and your link makes that very clear aswell), it's not about biology, biology is included because it's important for the strategy. Consent is also important for the strategy. But even if it wasn't: it was just an example of how negative traits don't get included. If that particular example isn't good, I can come…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:11 PM
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That doesn't adress my statement
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:06 PM
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Opt-out is nr.1, which is why I'm an activist for that. It's already illegal to treat people differently based on gender, but actually enforcing that both ways is nr.2. And then I'd wait to re-assess what remains a problem area.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:02 PM
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I'm defending the concept of innocent until proven guilty, PROVEN. Accusations and heresay from people who weren't even there while the supposed crime took place isn't proof. HIS STORY How many people say his dick physically go inside her? That doesn't need to be proven if he fully admits it. Then no one could have witnessed the state she was in while his dick was inside her. They saw her an hour before???? YOu'd justify it with feelings. You've been the most emotional one of the two of us. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:41 AM
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That's not the same thing. If the store owner was there, and could have said a simple two letter word, but didn't, then the guy isn't a thief. And I'm saying that multiple witnessess are saying that she wasn't there. I mean jesus, it isn't rocket science. It isn't: so why are you so hellbent on defending a rapist? You assume it's because she was too drunk Multiple witnessess Say this girl and guy become a couple eventually, what, would you call him a rapist every time she brings him to your hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:20 AM
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I'm actually an activist for opt-out and the worst enemy of opt-out are online MRA's. Activism is politics. You need to represent yourself as the hurt party, that your hurt is worthy of being a priority over someone else's hurt and you need to make people want to help you. On top of a bunch of other "rules" to make your cause a success. Anything anti-feminist would be seen as anti-equality. You can't do shit like this. You can't attack feminism. Feminism wrongly represents equality, saying you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:12 AM
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Yes. And themselves. Both genders can benefit from some honesty of their own biology and the other genders biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:58 AM
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If you believe what he says, then he didn't rape, because he said that he didn't rape her. So if by that same logic, a person says that they broke open the door lock of a store, went into the store, broke open the register, took the money, left and they say that they did it because the store owner wasn't home so they could do it without them knowing... But they're also saying that they aren't a thief, then I'm not allowed to say that they are a thief? Saying that she was drunk isn't the same as …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:57 AM
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It's clear cut to you because you believe what the girl says I belief what he says. HE says. He's not hiding any of the damned details. He think that the scenario that HE sketches is ok, while it's rape. in the way that she's claiming He's claiming proof that there was no consent Multiple witnessess saying that she wasn't able to consent. And in my experience, at the end of that night, the woman tends to be, well, more direct, for lack of a better a better word. She wasn't even able to talk. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:26 AM
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It does make sense, but I don't think that it contradicts my statement that it also needs to contain the negative parts of male nature to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:29 AM
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You need to define betabuxx in your post, because in some defenitions it's described as men who don't do RedPill strategies (like working out to gain muscle), in others it's the person you've settled for after not being able to get what you really wanted and in yet another defenition it's men who are average, or men who behave feminine like 'soy boys'. I'm pretty sure that if someone starts saying "yes I have and I love my husband but this is why he's betabuxx" that another new defenition will p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:42 PM
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Plus I doubt skin is especially important in attraction. It fucking is. It's like saying money isn't important in attraction for you, until there's someone that has debts up to their eyeballs, then it's the most important thing about that person. But not to the extent or variety that women have. Because men don't come in the variations of body shapes that women do. Also, not as extensive? Perfect, then it's easier to do. So why aren't y'all? That’s my point. If a man caters to a specific subcult…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:44 PM
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Most men do have good skin. Generally, women are obsessed with having flawless skin while having make up on. But men keep to a solid continual baseline 7/10 skin. They might have a pimple or something... but women without make up have awful skin. No, they think that they have good skin, but we see the dead skin, the flakey parts, the grey undertone, the increased redness from sun damage, the blackheads, the dry wrinkles, the oily sheen, the... Yeah, if they only put in 1/10th of the effort that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:26 PM
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Most men have good skin. HA HA HA Oh boi... Most clothes automatically show your shoulder to waist ratio. Yeah and if you don't have broad shoulders: don't you want to conceal that? If you have a belly, do you want your shirt to stretch over that? It can help with attracting women of specific sub cultures Why wouldn't you always wanna do this???? If a 2/10 became a 4/10 he still wont be getting much sex. Most people aren't 2's. A 4 skipping to a 6 will get more sex. From 5 to 7 a lot more sex. 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:38 PM
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But how can it work as an expansion pack if it only talks about the good bits? Think about Blue pill and only talking about the good bits of women: is it working?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:25 PM
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I understand that "normal dick? Forget about it. Its not anything* means: forget about normal dicks being a value I didn't say that, I think you might have quoted the wrong person and that's why this conversation has been confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:06 PM
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You’re still projecting here. People who cross the threshold of a person’s “attractiveness” barrier are given more leeway than everyone else is. Yes. But minimum is minimum. An extremely attractive guy just needs to meet the minimum. Everyone else has to go higher. which means that they can dip below the perceived “minimum” and still be attractive enough. No. Minimum is minimum. Because the point is that it’s still exaggerated and obsessive. I only named things that are upkeep. Stuff like take c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:03 PM
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I always viewed RPW as a place where women could learn what behaviors men best responded to, if they want to have a successful LTR. Except my impression of TRP is that saying the bad stuff of men is not allowed. It's pretty much the big reason why I'm no pill instead of leaning heavy red. Because it only goes one way: let's talk about hypergamy and how women lie about sex, but don't you dare talk about the issues with understanding what consent is in the male community. If RPW is a place where w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:53 PM
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The thread topic is that sexless men expect high value while giving no value... I asked a specific question about a statement made within the thread. I did not made a broad post that could be expanded on within the limits created by the OP. If you want to talk broadly, there are many people within this thread that did not as a specific question that has not been answered. You could even start your own thread within the post. There was no reason to quote me, just to rant. I'm open to actually dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:41 PM
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But no witnesses of the rape. So again, her word. And the word of the rapist. He's not hiding that he had sex with her, he's saying that it's not rape. Your actions are that you drank irresponsibly, and you are responsible for that. Yes but you are responsible for taking reasonable actions to keep yourself safe Like drinking in a group of friends? Getting driven home by someone out of that friend group? And even if she did, me taking irresponsible actions doesn't give someone else permission to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:23 PM
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Here in this thread for example. Or in feminist rant sites, or female chitchat. Can you link me? but if you have a normal dick? Forget about it. It's not anything." Not bragging about a normal dick isn't the same as complaining about a small dick. I mean we are supossed to give inherent value to women just for being pretty and men have to prove themselves by becoming champions at something? That's an entirely different topic. If it is on topic and we are still talking about dick size: aren't wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:14 PM
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I'm kinda like...should have mentioned an IUD instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 03:09 PM
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Oh okay, so you lied, there were no witnesses. It's just what she says. No...there are multiple witnessess of her being black-out drunk. That's why he was driving her home. You are just reaching now. Absolutely. Like I said, being drunk is never an excuse. Being drunk isn't an excuse for your actions. You didn't do any of the actions in that scenario. We are not responsible for what other people do to us. Why would we make drinking illegal? Drinking is for adults, and adults should be doing thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 12:56 PM
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Oh yeah? Was he prosecuted in a court of law? Case is still going on. Average length of 3 years in my country. If she got drunk enough to be passed out surrounded by people that would rape her when she was drunk, that's on her. They were her friends, he was her friend. He told everyone else he was driving her home. And even if she didn't, then that would be on her AND the rapist. If I get drunk and someone pressures me to get behind the wheel to drive them home, and we end up killing someone, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 12:42 PM
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I mean that women do things that are mostly comfortable, while men do things that are more uncomfortable. Brazilian wax. Men do things that fewer people in general are willing to do. There's only 2 genders... You can't determine effort by looking at what things people are less willing to do and what gender dominates. The most likely result is women doing feminine behavior more and men doing male behavior more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:56 AM
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This is the only one I am offended by. In my experience women always make more of a mess And in my personal experience it's always men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:47 AM
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Because people hold preferential biases for their partners which translates to lowered standards. ...what? No it does not. It's the opposite. The partner gets through the door because he matches the higher standards. Then love and you start accepting more flaws. But never below minimum without a good cause. But that's after you matched the higher standards. Don’t know. Maybe you all should go straight for the metrosexuals or just turn into lesbians then. Why is grooming such a weird concept for …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 08:22 AM
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You’re projecting your standards onto us, as I’ve already said before, and since you’ve basically admitted it, I don’t see what else there is to continue talking about Well...you can say why it's bad? Comically, it is women pushing their own standards of perfection onto themselves because men aren’t that neurotic about “the perfect _______.” Yes. It's women doing it to women. So why would we be attracted to men who don't match our level of minimum? This is the shit that we put on strangers that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:55 AM
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Who said anything about full-face makeup? I was only responding to the comment made. "Women expect as much obsessiveness out of men as they do themselves" So then you expect that men wear the one suit and one watch that they have constantly. Sounds even better than what you were unironically proposing. ...the standards are apparantly so different between the genders, that you had no clue what I was talking about. How is that not an issue? Focusing on those small “dark spots” on our faces? Comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:21 AM
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it seems that women expect as much obsessiveness out of men as they do themselves. We gotta be perfect or close to it. Oh come on, no one here is suggesting that you wear full face make-up, go make a hobby out of dress shopping so that you'll always have fabulous clothes, get a full wardrobe with multiple shoes and watches, waxing eyebrows, ... We're naming the LOW standard of just keeping the thing you have looking good. Why is that perfectionism for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:58 AM
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"Skincare". This probably helps, I have no idea but does anyone think the average guy's problem is his skin? He had better skin when he was younger but he was still struggling. We women are hyper focussed on details. Nature or nurture, I don't care how it came to be but I can see it if one of my friends has a french manicure. Google it. It's nails being done in the natural nail color with a natural white tip. I can see that. So if you have a blackhead then I'll see it. I can't ignore the damn bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:47 AM
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Men need to put on their game with their wives at times Keeping up their game (weight/make-up/...). And yes... it's a real thing that some women stop having game in a marriage aswell...and the men leave too or you look at the guy and see it's a joint drop of standards. One partner (regardless of gender) keeping up game while the other doesn't, generally ends in divorce. work (and make more than the woman in 99% of the cases) Women work too. help with chores ...help? That's 50% of his mess. If he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:31 AM
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Maybe we're just stupid, but the idea that everything we've ever built in a relationship is free to collapse as soon as we stop gaming our wives is a strong Red Pill Why? I mean... The opposite is also true. If a woman stops having sex with you, gains massive weight, stops dressing up, ... I would contend that most men do not know that they need to keep gaming their wives, as women do not want to explain their needs to men, and men do not need game themselves. Untrue. There are stereotypes and j…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:26 AM
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Maybe he'll eventually be fortunate enough to approach a woman who'se drunk....oh wait, that's rape now, he's supposed to carry a breathilizer with him to make sure that she is completely sober before approaching. The last time I heard something like this, was from a guy that raped a girl. Ohwait...it wasn't rape according to him because she didn't say "no", even though there were multiple witnessess saying that she was black-out drunk and couldn't say anything. But you know. He was getting scre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:18 AM
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“even if he just doesn’t talk it’s not worth it”. Not with a conservative guy, that's the bottom of the pile.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:14 AM
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In other words, you're claiming women by default are more valuable than the men they meet regardless of their looks, behavior, attitudes or even their partner counts. The actual claim (as written in the OP) was that the cost of a steady relationship/marriage is too high for women. Let's say you have 300dollar. You need a laptop that has a good graphic card for gaming. Such a laptop on average is 500dollar to play the games you want. So you don't have enough money/value for the laptop that you ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 06:01 AM
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Just look at the articles about women still wanting men to make more money than them. I seriously don't see shit like that unless I go looking for it. So men are supposed to bring home the bacon and fry it up? If they don't do an actual 50% of housework...yes. What do women do? Still the majority of housework and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:50 AM
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If women went only for big dicks, why do we see so much complaints on small dicks in the world? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 05:46 AM
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No. Followed up with "poor girl... she'll learn".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:57 PM
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Really, because I usually just hear them calling him a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:52 PM
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Not because the men improved a lot with time Ehhh, they improve. Not looks wise, but grooming wise. And it's because they get a carreer: In goes the awkward teenager that loves his old jeans and funny print t-shirts because "they make me feel comfterable, that's most important right?". He doesn't shave regularly because it's a bother, but he doesn't have the funds to do beard-care, so it's this patchy thing that occasionally looks good, but most of the time looks unmanaged. One evalutation conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:25 PM
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How often do you see a woman talking about gold diggers? How often do you see men talking about gold diggers? What are more common posts: "Is she out for my money?" or "Women should never ever date a millionaire!". I see you bringing up gold diggers for instance, male perhaps? Sure... that narrative totally gets pushed by women...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:14 PM
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1 Because there's more length to the relationship and the longer the relationship the more chance of cheating occuring by "chance" (the word chance is NOT used to describe an accident). And because "what if" can be a big factor, while in scenario 2 that's not reasonably a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:07 PM
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Being attracted to looks is not subconscious dude. It so it. It's like breathing, you do it without thinking and you actively need to pay attention to it, to notice that you are doing it. Last time I checked saying “looks do not matter” when they clearly do is lying. So I do not know what your rambling about in the last part. In my experience, they don't phrase it like "looks don't matter". That's what men turn the sentences into.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:25 AM
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He's a 10/10. Ok, I can get behind your argument if it's only about 10/10 males and not in a scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:51 AM
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I'd argue that that's because women have a hard time leaving. Insert divorce statistic Let's be honest here... Most of those women should have left years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:45 AM
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But women swear and swear that this is not true, because they think lying about the truth is better for everybody Or... Because being attracted to looks is a subconscious passive thing and what we screen for in personality is something we actively choose to do. So the women that are less self-aware, only count their active actions, because they don't realise their subconscious actions. And another reason is that this is a difference what the genders consider to be lying. For instance, the dreade…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:33 AM
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f / 28 / 13 Anything is acceptable, I'm more concerned about the how's.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:52 PM
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For future references: female symptoms can also be strong, just different. My 'strongest' symptom is an female autistic symptom (more difficulties with own emotions and not as much trouble with identifying other people's emotions (male)).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:12 PM
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Are your symptoms as strong as most boys? Depends on what you mean with this question. I got diagnosed during the time that they still use high and low functioning autist and I got labeled a low functioning autist that wouldn't ever be able to live independently. But on the other hand...I do live independently and have a mortage and everything (part of the reason why they stopped using high and low functioning). Or do you mean: are my symptoms more like male autists? Yes, they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 06:22 PM
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First off, that talks about the autism gene. While yes, the leading theory about the cause of autism is that it's a gene: we haven't actually found the gene that causes autism for the majority of the cases. So when a study talks about the autism gene, they are talking about the only gene that's been found yet, which is the cause of cluster families (families with around 50% autistic people, I'm in one btw), which doesn't represent autism because most autistic people don't pop up in cluster famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 06:06 PM
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Men are more likely to be autists compared to women. They are not. Men are more likely to get a diagnosis. Autism looks different in men and women and over the years teachers have been educated in how to spot symptoms of male autism. Average people who might have an autistic kid know how rainman looks, or Sam from a-typical. They don't typically know what rainwomen would look like. As such, the more you have male autistic symptoms, the more chance you have of getting a diagnosis. In a personal a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:56 PM
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If youre scared of pregancy, then just dont have casual sex with random dudes. Exactly, so the women that act cautious aren't in the group we are talking about. It's only the risk-takers that have already decided that casual sex is worth the risk of pregnancy. And pregnancy is a worse risk then STD's so why would they suddenly stop because of that? And your least likely to orgasm through casual sex then if you were in a relationship. Yes. But we weren't talking about why these women prefer casua…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:01 AM
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Because the higher the n-count, the more likely to get an orgasm and that's the desired goal for casual sex. Also, we can get pregnant. STD fear is nothing compared to pregnancy fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:46 AM
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Ah what, you’re saying that the poor mother might get bored being inside the house all day.... Humans need social interaction. SAHP's usually only socially interact with kids. There's a reason for the doped up stereotype of a SAHP. It's something that we know is inhumane, but we aren't able to publicly call out because of politics. "Poor mommy getting bored" mockery is the same as "poor prisoner not getting any sleep". Except we publicly accept sleep deprivation as bad. And they are not even bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 12:16 AM
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I believe that women want to feel protected and safe, and that they are searching for a man that will provide that. If you belief this, then why wouldn't this include emotional safety? And thus allow a man that cries?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 07:39 PM
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This is coming from someone that has gotten all of their make-up information from watching YouTube. You don't know how it looks IRL, they can't hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 05:29 AM
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From a 3 to a 8? I have a +€3000 make-up collection, I know what it can and can't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:02 AM
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Have you seen some of the transformations that women have on makeup? Have you ever seen that IRL? Because most of those transformations are super visible. That shit doesn't translate well to a world where you can control the angles or light.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:59 PM
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But you can still fix other shit and improve by 1 or even 2 scores? Why do men think effort is pointless unless you emediatly go to the top? Make-up isn't a magic wand, it doesn't turn a 3 into an 8. Most women wear make-up and only slightly improve their score. Why isn't that 1 point jump enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:52 PM
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I'm bi-sexual and I agree with that statement. Women are just more attractive then men. That doesn't mean that we become men and let our vagina's rule our brain in the presence of a hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:46 PM
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I know your like to believe that but I don't. I don't have anything against women. I didn't presume your gender. That was a gender-neutral question. Just questions about why the dating market is so skewed. Why the average woman finds 80% of men as below average. Because we are moving to online dating and there's 80% male on an online dating service compared to 20% women or a 4:1 ratio. And fluctuating libido's. A mans libido is constantly on a level that wants to fuck if possible, a womans goes …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:44 PM
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I don't even know where to fucking begin with how wrong that is. Ok...first things first: womens sexuality isn't the same as mens. Even if they desire women, they don't end up desiring all hot women as if they are men. Their horniness is dependent on their cycle, so why doesn't this status-kingdom fall apart every month when their libido is at their lowest?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:38 PM
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Based on your replies in the comments and your total confusion on why bi-sexual women would prefer men as opposed to their own gender: do you perhaps have a strong dislike for the stereotypical traits/behavior of the gender that's your opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:31 PM
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It would explain why women are very concerned with their female friends opinion as well. Secretly, they have crushes on their friends to some extent. No. Womens actions are based on status. Women want to get as high up as possible. Men don't determine status, the female friends do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:27 PM
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Because you didn't describe a situation with subtle signs or consequences that happened later. You described a situation that's emediatly noticable or in other words: observable. We would all be able to see that happening with confident people if it was real.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:11 PM
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I'm saying that it's not real. You are seeing something that's not there because that's what you are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:50 PM
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Like a porn fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 09:07 PM
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It's not that confidence is attractive to women, it's that not being confident is unattractive to both men and women. Think about how not-confident looks. Insecure, needy, paranoid, jealous, ... These are all qualities that push someone away, no matter the gender, because these are qualities that are annoying at best, dangerous at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 08:24 PM
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There is disgust if he is +10years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:54 PM
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Talking about humans as if they are animals isn't exactly considered acceptable. I was kinda expecting massive downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 01:20 AM
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but a certain personality types The personality type that doesn't decorate the house as nesting, but decorates the SO's personality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 07:31 PM
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My suggestion would rather be, that now that you know that nagging is part of nesting, to try and direct the nesting to come out in a different way...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:58 PM
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And...some aspects of it can truly annoy the male species (think nagging to do better), but the best sign you'll ever get there there's something going seriously wrong in your relationship, is if a women that nests stops nesting. So if you hate the nagging and the nagging stops... she's leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:27 PM
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Still not it, although closer. Nesting is as much about the present for women as it's about the future. Nesting makes us feel comfterable NOW and emediatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:21 PM
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I think that your title and body are talking about 2 different things. I'm currently working through the no-goal aspect with my SO. It's not a relationship problem, it's a life problem. You start wondering about "Why am I alive?" and yeah...I thought it was silly when I was younger too but it happens when life has been going great for too long and you have no goals. And then relationships can break, not because it's a relationship problem, but because your personal issues are effecting the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 05:18 PM
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I use harsher language then required. Just the way I talk. I can't count the amount of times I've been told to say 'borrowed' when I ask who has stolen my shit at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:52 AM
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It's not entirely clear to me, if you are mocking my beliefs or theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:39 AM
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Then why did you disagree with me when I said that OLD is unsuitable to find a partner with the conditions I described?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 11:53 PM
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Yes... But men have always been more lonely then women? As much as TRP likes to talk about spinning plates and all...men need women more then women need men. And I'm not saying that that's a trend that has to be, it's partly by design that men need women more. There are plenty of men that can't open up deeply unless in a relationship and they could easily go to friendship for that instead of a relationship (like women), but they don't. And as long as that keep being true, men (the one's describe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 11:13 PM
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Not sure what this means but I think I'd probably agree. It's just the typical complaint to women behavior on OLD. A guy makes a slightly offensive joke, a woman is turned off from that. "He's just awkward, you shouldn't be so quick to offend. If he apologizes then you should give him a 2nd chance.". Women complain about harassing behavior on OLD and in turn stay off it: "But the majority of men don't do anything wrong on OLD, they shouldn't be punished for that! It's normal internet behavior, j…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 11:08 PM
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So... they are not the 10+years type I explicitly described
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 09:56 PM
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guys don't know what it's like to experience that level of negativity 2 words: online gaming Women do have to toughen up a little and be ready to manage the onslaught on nonsense. No we don't? If OLD is harassing, then we just stay off OLD? And the numbers suggest that this is already happening. We don't have to look up the harassement to be 'fair'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:04 PM
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Then what is the point of your post?.. because this isn't what your post is really talking about. My 'eventual not yet explained' point is: you can't fix OLD without fixing online harassement and we've been told many times that that's unfixable. So stop using OLD expected it to miraculously work. Do you think OLD does not use or reflect any human attraction mechanisms whatsoever? Can't be said because 4:1 is waaay too different. Like... We are not fighting for food, but if only 4:1 could eat due…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:19 PM
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I think that’s a bit of an exaggeration But wouldn't you say that it's an exaggeration that's shared by a majority of women and would therefor influence their behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:15 PM
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(And when that's called out, it's considered justified because of rape culture/assumption that a man would react violently to the criticism) I think that that's a random explenation for a phenomenon that they don't know how to explain. I don't know why I'm afraid to say such things, online I have no problem, if I prepare I have no problem, look at my history... I'm obviously not someone that minces their words,... And yet I do and I notice that a majority of other women aren't able to do it eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:12 PM
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Or...they get harassed off OLD? That would explain why almost everyone has used OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:06 PM
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And how did that work out?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:04 PM
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It's women typical behavior, think: "Does this dress make my butt look big?".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:58 AM
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so saying that it's "a male problem" simply because more men are on it I was actually saying that it's a male problem because they seem to be the only one's having a problem with it. Women have different problems with OLD. I wouldn't say it increases it. Rather, it exposes it. You can't take an artificial environment that is ridiculously removed from real life and have it reflect real life. If a situation dramaticly changes, so does human behavior with it. A 4:1 ratio of men to women is waaay to…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:56 AM
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Most women don’t need OLD to date, so there’s less women on there to begin with Men equally don't need OLD. There's a 4:1 ratio, there's 3 guys being left over for every couple that could potentially be made. OLD is a horrible choice for men. They have better odds IRL. most get what they want quickly and drop out. And I'm suggesting that this happens because of the harassement. In comparison, more men are forced onto OLD to date Why? They have better odds IRL. have to stay on there for a long ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:50 AM
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Except, considering the loud complaints about men about OLD and how OLD massively increases the already excisting gender disparity in dating, in part because of the gender ratio on OLD: I'd say it's a male problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:37 AM
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It’s easy for women to date > that’s why not many use OLD > of the ones who do use OLD, the majority get what they need quickly and exit. If there wasn't a problem with OLD, they'd be using OLD on top of their regular dating strategies. I mean...there isn't a dating police enforcing a one-dating-strategy. By contrast, more men are forced to use OLD to date and also forced to stay on there longer to get any kind of result. There's no dating police, they aren't forced to use OLD. They prefer OLD b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:33 AM
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Ok, but I'm trying to argue about a possible reason for the 80% men on OLD compared to 20% women. I wanna test my theory, but everyone seems to wanna discus the harassement. I personally find it boring to discuss the harassement. Been discussing that since I first got online almost 20 years ago. Pretty big gender divide there. I know that there's not going to be an agreement about that. Pointless to discuss. Yet... people seem hellbent on discussing this. Why not new stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:49 AM
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With online games, you have a reason to endure the occasional horrible things: because you love to play the games. It's a price you are willing to pay. Women don't have as much motivation to stay on OLD to endure these messages (followed by blocking the user). Nobody loves OLD, it's a means to an end at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:40 AM
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Edit: Why do you guys only wanna discuss whether or not the harassement is real or women overreacting? That's not relevant, whether or not the women think it's real is relevant to how women react.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:23 AM
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Yes, it's easy to date as an average woman but it's exponentially easier on OLD because of the 80% men being on there compared to the 20% women. I'm trying to discuss why it's only 20% women. It’s incredibly easy to find a guy to date if you’re an average woman. Proof being they only jump on OLD for a week, fill their dance card with 30 decent prospects This is circular logic. It's easy to date for women > that's why it's easy for women to date on OLD > the proof of it being easy for women to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:12 AM
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Also, you don't think that there are women who go off OLD permanently to avoid the dick pics or rude messages? Or that there are some days that they'll go "I really really don't feel like getting a dick pic today", so they don't go on OLD that day while their male counterparts do? And that several times a week. Or that they get a rude message and go "Ok, I'm done for today.", while their male counterpart stays on longer. Or... Or... Or... People don't look up unpleasent experiences even if it co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 06:00 AM
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I don't have the reference offhand, but I once read that a third of all hookups turn into real relationships. That's pretty unexpected. That doesn't mean that those relationships work long-term. They could be 3 week relationships. you can still find someone looking for something serious online. That doesn't mean they will work long-term. And FYI, the older women look for hookups much less often, it seems. The older the women get, the more they don't want to live together with their partner. Imo,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:58 AM
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What does the O of OLD mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:36 AM
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I don't have the ability to DO on this front.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:32 AM
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And if you don't think that women get harassed more online then men: don't you agree that women in general feel like they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:18 AM
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I am OP OP seemed to imply that the general harassment of women on the internet is why they don't like OLD. No I did not. I didn't want a boring long ass title. maybe they should write more clearly Maybe you should learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:16 AM
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Have you ever considered the online harassement of women to be the cause of women avoiding online platforms for dating to be the cause of women avoiding online platforms for dating avoiding online platforms for dating online platforms for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:50 AM
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It’s implied in the reasoning by the OP. It is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:48 AM
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I don't agree with that (and even if I did: I could make an argument that the social construct has an impact during our formative years). This is PPD, people come here to debate non-standard ideas. Why would you assume that anyone that comes here has a standard view?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:43 AM
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But then you wouldn’t get woman privilege. Or get your tits rated. Or get adoration simply for having a pussy. Or talk about women typical hobbies like make-up, dancing, fashion, ... Or talk about women typical problems like periods, bra sizing, pockets, ... Why don't woman just become MEN???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:36 AM
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Are you saying believe all women? I'm saying that for the point that I'm trying to make, the truth is less important then the feelings. People respond to what they feel is true, even if it's not a actually true. I'm trying to discuss the response. Grow some thick skin. Exactly the point. Women get told to "grow a thick skin". Women then go and take that 'thick skin' to OLD. TRP: "woman are cold on OLD!!!! This is their natural disposition!!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:14 AM
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Ok. But don't you agree that a common complaint of women is internet harassement? Regardless of whether or not it's true: do they say it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:49 AM
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women aren’t there because we don’t need to be. I'd argue that women aren't there, because it's not our only option and OLD is a crap option for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:47 AM
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Isn't it the red pills usual position that woman place feelings over facts? So why don't you work with that as the assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:45 AM
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There's not an infinite amount of people you can match with. Like attractive enough to fuck: yes, probably an endless supply. But IRL, the men I know also want to settle down and not have to keep trying to find someone new to fuck and go home alone and do everything by yourself. And people that you can live with for at least 10 years, that you are attracted enough too are limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:51 PM
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Eventually there aren't enough women willing to put themselves out there for men to fix themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:45 PM
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That's the wrong problem to solve. And worse then that: the original problem is growing by it's own design. It needs to be fixed or it keeps growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:41 PM
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They clearly don't care. I do care. I can't talk about others as much, but as far as I know they are simular to me. But this sub seems to equals caring with action. "Why aren't women dating more low level guys on apps????". And I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT Even if we only look at my actions and what I personally can do: I can't give all the 'LVM' ('' cuz I don't belief in it) a chance. I can't even give a lot of them a chance. It's just not possible. You all keep suggesting a solution that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:29 PM
3

It's actually high-quality+luck. You can be the best guy on the app, if the girl that's perfect for you deletes the app before she sees you, then you still don't get a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:20 PM
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As a woman that has the reverse tactic: those guys aren't online at the same time. Somethimes you swipe and you don't emediatly get a match, so you swipe 5 people more because now you have time to talk. It doesn't actually take long to get 1 match: you talk, great and all. Then it's 20.00 and suddenly 7 people are demanding your attention at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:53 PM
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It's not that it's only 50% of women on OLD. It's the time frame that's shorter. If a guy spends 1 year on OLD and a woman spends 6 months on OLD, then even if equal amounts of men and women go on OLD, there's still a 2:1 ratio average. Women typically hop on, get a match, get off. Wait how the match turns out and if it's not a good match, then they create a new profile from scratch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:50 PM
1

It's a "omg I wish I could really do this"-joke
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 06:33 PM
1

And my initial comment of "please stop this" is about the "jokers"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 06:30 PM
1

Because "it's a joke" is the defense. Actual jokes jokes aren't a problem to me, I'm talking about the "ha ha, I'm gonna rape someone" shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:25 AM
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Because they are not arguing in good faith. They want women disempowered I know people who do this who ABSOLUTELY without a doubt are NOT like that. My guess is, that (typically) men don't have experience because they don't have to look out for this shit. They see person A making a joke and then person B making the exact same joke and us avoiding person B and they don't get why A is allowed and B isn't. But we have experience. We watch out for the sneaky grins of satisfaction, we count the amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 01:14 AM
1

A bunch of them are absolutely NOT joking, but saying that is highly offensive for some reason. "You can't judge them like that, you don't know!!!" It's like some people feel as if the achievement of 'technically not doing shit wrong' is highly admirable and should be rewarded and when we go "Euhm no, we know what they just did, we're not playing along." they flip their lid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 12:56 AM
2

Call it experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:41 PM
2

People don't just randomly bring up getting your face eaten by a cat. Those words were intentionnally. Stop defending them or IRL you'll get grouped with them. I don't need to know, to respond. I'm not the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:40 PM
1

I actually like dark humor aswell. What's funnier then one dead baby? Two dead babies! “I’m going to give you a gallon of water and then cut your dick off” These one's are a problem though. That's not a joke. Where's the punch line? And worse, I'd say that half the people aren't joking, they are serious and they don't notice that you (the jokester) are making a joke either. They think that they found comrades. Someone makes a dark joke of getting someone too wasted to consent and then fucks her.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:40 PM
3

The motivation is what makes a threat a threat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:33 PM
3

Most people aren't idiots enough to threaten in a non-excusable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:09 PM
3

Depending in context it can be a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:27 PM
2

Now you are just looking at ways and twisting in curves to excuse the behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:55 PM
1

If that's true (doubt, not denying that women can...not doubting that it's way more then socially considered true, but more then women? Doubt): why fix one or the other? Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:54 PM
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Ok. That's 1. I've got 1 example in the comments and someone else defending it. Reddit counts as IRL? No, in real life counts as IRL. Never heard a "let's feed her alcohol until she can't walk anymore" joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:51 PM
1

"You can't survive without me. I'll give you 60 days until you are dead." Isn't a threat either
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:48 PM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:01 PM
3

I feel threatened, not offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:58 PM
4

I'm not red pill, because I don't just belief harsh truths about women. I also belief harsh thruths about men: UNACCEPTABLE!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:33 PM
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And why would that be ok? Also: no they are not. They intentionnally tried to find the right words to technically not joke about harming me, while still giving me a visual about being harmed. It's like an ex that you break up with saying "You can't survive without me. I'll give you 60 days until you are dead." (Example from relationship sub). That's technically not a threat, but the intent is to get as close without it being something you can get legally punished for. That comment chose their wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:23 PM
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BUNNIES But why the fuck is "Please don't joke about severely harming me?" crazy? That's such a normal request.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:32 PM
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hate First off, I said negative feelings, not hate. But majority of Men don’t do this.. Secondly, why do you think that I don't know this? I think that you underestimate the impact of hearing such threats. I feel unsafe, I respond to that feeling, I can't turn it off. It's like hearing about a house burning down because the stove is left on, every day: you'll respond by getting out of bed, while knowing damn well that the stove is off, just to double/triple check. Ive heard that more in real lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:30 PM
1

I'm not sure where shame comes into this That's the primary motivation (that I've observed) for people to keep a secret like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:25 PM
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Negative feelings. To stop the negative feelings: please fucking stop threatening women with rape/assault/mutilation/slavery as a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 02:48 PM
1

As someone with a lack of shame, I have a hard time explaining that. I just know that people do act in that manner about those subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 02:30 PM
1

Neglect is shit like not putting on sunscreen. Neglect is not (looks up skin care products): a lack of tonic, lack of day-creme (Yes, even the day crème), lack of chemical scrubs, lack of physical scrubs (bad), lack of moisterizer, lack of skin oil, lack of night crème, lack of infuser, lack of serum, lack of collagen, lack of eye cream, ... The latter group should be responses. You put on a tonic because you use the other products. You put on a day cream to balance the moisterizer levels in you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 02:28 PM
1

Why wouldn't it be the same thing? Most of those scenario's have been open secrets for some people for decades. Gossipers are usually proper enough to keep kids out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:19 AM
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I'm part of both FDS and MGTOW, what does that make me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:15 AM
1

The same thing that happens when kids go to parents who are swingers, or parents that are into BDSM, or parents that have a DeadBedroom, or ...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:11 AM
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I ask this question to hopefully get some insight from those of you who have either been through something like this before or are in a similar relationship right now. Simular relationship Based on your personal experiences/observations, how will this play out for them They seem like they have found a way to have this type of relationship that works for both of them, so unless something changes, I don't see it going 'wrong'. and their children? Plenty of people that cheat and can keep it a secre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 01:30 AM
1

I'm happy to be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 01:25 AM
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how they each can keep up the façade in front of their friends, church members (they both attend), etc.? Simple: you just don't talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 01:24 AM
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but it just goes against everything I’ve been taught. I think that that's the problem with monogamy. In my opinion: a minority of people can only be monogamous (so they themselves can't sleep with someone else while dating, I'm not saying that a minority of people are only ok with being in a monogamous relationship), a minority can NOT be monogamous and the majority of the people can swing either way depending on circumstances. But there's this huge stigma against non-monogamy and so the people …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 01:10 AM
2

Skincare products are snake oil. If you have a good skin: yes. If you have oily skin: yes. Just wash it more with non-harsh soap. If you have acnee skin: a lot of the times yes. There are some good products, but there's also crap. If you have dry skin: you are gonna look freaking terrible if you don't use skin products
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:05 PM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:31 PM
1

Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:22 PM
1

No I am not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:21 PM
1

That's not shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:19 PM
1

Leave it to a man, to not wanna play by the rules and getting upset at being 'manipulated' when the rules don't get broken for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:17 PM
1

I've given you the parameters in which I'm willing to explain, you can choose A, B or "never mind".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:13 PM
1

Already adressed before. I'm really not a fan of someone hopping in on the end of a debate, not understanding the content and me having to explain bit by bit without context. And especially not if my debate-partner already accussed me from saying that manipulation=bad and I already responded. If you wanna start a new debate: ok, but you first have to ask what I think, not assume a position and tell me that I disagree with that. That or you find the comment that's bothering you and you quote ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:09 PM
1

I did not say that, quoted the wrong person. There's even 1 word I had to google Translate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:03 PM
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Because we were discussing something else regarding manipulation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:57 PM
1

Not the argument here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:55 PM
1

But is it a need or a want?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:48 PM
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It doesn't need to be a specific reddit, these people appear on all subs because it seems like they highly value honestly while also not realising that what they are saying is vile. A bit like a racist talking about how "there are economical benefits to slavery and some people are just happier like that because they don't have to think while that's hard for them." and the racist is thinking that he was being clever because he didn't specifically mention talking about black people, but everyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:20 AM
2

So you are saying that I don't excist, that I'm a projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:04 AM
2

Men sleep around to spread their sperm to heighten the chance of impregnating someone. Women sleep around to gather more resources for their child that one father couldn't provide. You know...if we didn't have free will and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:01 AM
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The thing about this is that some people aren't really "women haters." They're just expressing their general feelings from being ignored by most women. Those are the 'little bit' people I described and I'm not scared because of them, I'm scared of the white smoldering hatred people and the 'little bit' people are edging them on, while not understanding that the hatred people aren't venting...they are fucking serious. Like...I don't want to make it a gendered thing, but women due to nurture and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 05:59 AM
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Yes. Because I see 5% racists online and I know about 5% racists IRL. I see 5% radical feminists online and about 5% IRL. 5% MRA's online and 5% IRL. 5% conspiracy theorist online, 5% IRL. And then there's the women haters online, from a little bit to white smoldering hatred and that somethimes feels like up to 50% (but that might be the subs I visit) and I know 0 people like that IRL. And that's very unsettling because they excist, I see them online, but I can't recognize them IRL. So I'm wonde…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:26 AM
2

I'd say that the caution is internet-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:03 AM
3

No, I've never had a bad encounter of such a kind with a man. I've only had one actual bad encounter with a guy and that was because he didn't accept a "no" and tbh I could have probably kicked his ass if it did go sideways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:38 AM
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I don't have a virginity fetish, but virgins are more likely to get a pass because I do my screening based on safety (how likely is this guy to bash my head in) and for some reason virgins feel safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:23 AM
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Women don't mind staying single for a long time (hold out for the best suitor to come) but men have more desire to be in a relationship with whoever they come across (to some degree obviously) Yes. Men have higher sex drives, you are more likely to get a steady amount of sex in a relationship. Even if a woman has a sex drive that's simular or higher then a males: sex toys. So for men, a relationship is more like a need and for women it's more like a want. Men are willing to have relationships wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 02:14 AM
1

life is different believe me...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:57 AM
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I think that if you actually were successful, you'd also understand that casual sex has a problem with resources. Women are typically not having sex during their period, that's 75% of the time compared to 100% of the time with men. Women typically have a lower libido. Women typically... And if you were aware of that, you wouldn't be giving out actual advice for free, because that's one available woman away from you, while that's a limited resource. And maybe I could buy TRP doing it out of the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:41 AM
1

Hard to belief
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:27 AM
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That's not something that's solely from TRP and tbh...fake it until you make it works. insecure with a lot of issue You should fix these 2 regardless of wanting to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:13 AM
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like waiting to respond to them in text, leaving them on "read," not divulging too much information, etc. These things build attraction in women and it's still "manipulation." That could come out of a 90's sitcom. Like, even if at some point it worked, manipulation doesn't work when people know they are being manipulated and the manipulation you've just named is so fucking obvious. Even if you do make them feel attracted, they know they are being manipulated and they'll shut you down out of spit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:45 PM
1

I was talking about a mother who survives on child support...being paid by you!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:13 PM
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And then you have a kid with the stereotypical single mom type portrayed on this sub. Ya own damn fault, if you choose a dumb-ass as mom to your kids, then you get a dumb-ass as mom to your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:01 PM
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Do you think manipulation is unnatural? Unnatural might be the wrong word. But if you pretend to be rich to get someone to like you, then they like rich, not manipulation. Manipulation is pretending to be whatever they want, by it's own design, it can't be a trait people are attracted to because it's not something tangible. It's whatever it needs to be. Making people think you're more valuable of a person than you actually are is manipulation, but if it works, then what makes it bad? Currently n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 10:41 PM
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That's the point. Since manipulation seems to be a natural channel that women operate through when speaking It's not a natural channel if it's manipulation. You are pretending to be someone that you actually could be. They like that person. That's their natural channel. Manipulation isn't something people are attracted too, if the attraction stops when you get figured out. which is why they become disappointed when guys pump and dump them. Offcourse we get dissapointed by pump and dump. It takes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:55 PM
5

I actually think that jawline you are describing is really hot, but the picture you linked is waaay too much. I'm getting vampire vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:36 PM
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I think it's social conditioning, because obese people (women more then men, but both) get an extreme unreasonable amount of hate online and women typically get told to watch their looks more then men (how many threads have we seen here where people go: "women, we don't care about your carreer. Just make sure that you aren't fat!". We see people writing it towards us, so we belief it, but I personally haven't noticed a decline in matches (overweight, not obese) since I've gained weight. I did no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:24 PM
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Not that they "like" it, but that is the channel that they operate through, so in a sense, it's like speaking their language. Manipulation is tricking someone. If you gotta trick someone then 'they' don't appreciate it. And offcourse manipulation works. It works on everything as long as people don't realise that you are doing it. That doesn't proof shit. Well, it seems like relationships always involve someone gaining less than the other in the end. Yes, if you look at relationships as a transac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:09 PM
2

In my personal opinion, women are exceptionally good at sticking their head in the sand and fixing everything themselves so that they can stick their head in the sand. If if the guy has a bad history, then they go "Oh that was with her, he's not gonna do that with ME!". If the guy is lazy right now, then they go "Oh he has promised to change if we ever have kids and it doesn't really matter that much right now."... and they really belief it. Also all of the freaking "it's not that bad". Yeah, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:57 PM
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Why do you think that responding to manipulation equals liking manipulation? Like, our grandparents are also more likely to respond to the rich nigerian price who just needs a loan as opposed to a solid business deal, that doesn't mean that they like getting ripped off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:47 PM
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History of bisexual encounters Possibility of both FFM and FMM threesome's? Single bisexual encounter and realizing it wasn’t for them? Don't care Do your attitudes change depending on the context (giver/recipient, oral/anal)? Don't care Zero sexual or relationship history Depends on the why Relationship history but no sexual history A+++ guy, possible history of abuse, proceed with caution Extensive sexual history but no long-term relationship Depends on the why Equal mix of serious and casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 08:32 PM
1

Because your beliefs about what feminism currently represents is more in line with what they did when I was 16-20, then what they are doing currently. When I was 16-20, they were acting all fake male representation and only gay/trans male rights (even over women rights). We had the HeForShe campaign where Emma Watson claimed to be for male rights in interviews but if you went to the male rights page of HeForShe ilts would say "What can you do for women?". But that's old. Currently they are tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:45 PM
1

I'm not arguing about whether or not it's right, I'm saying that this is how it currently works.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/20 03:36 PM
1

Yeah, but you don't use LVM like FDS does, you use it like TRP does. A low effort guy on FDS is someone that doesn't put in the effort to make her feel special, someone that does those things is not a HVM according to TRP... that's a simp. They both use the same terms but mean different things by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:56 PM
2

You can't sign away child support unless someone takes over the child support duty from you. Or in other words, unless someone is willing to adopt your kid and sign their name on the birth document so that your name is removed, you still need to pay child support. You can only sign away your rights. Like your right to have a say in medical decicions. You can't sign away rights that the kid has, child support is a right from the kid.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/20 03:11 AM
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You can't sign away your duties, only your rights. So you can sign away your parental rights, but you can NOT sign away your duty to pay child support. You can only lose that duty, if someone is willing to pick up that duty for you, so adoption.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/20 03:08 AM
0

I absolutely wouldn't. 9 months of my time, parts of my youth AND possible lifelong health consequences all while coming out in an event that could be used as a torture device if we had a way of bottling the experience? Yeetus fetus. But I'm not the one describing 10min-30min of mouth to mouth as this horribly imposing event that no one should be forced to do. You can't get your high ground back after that one. Lol...I don't even understand how you are still trying. I was expecting this "oh shii…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:01 AM
1

OMG, you wouldn't offer mouth to mouth to an unconcious person? That wouldn't hurt you one bit, but you wouldn't do that??? CPR-certified every year btw. And still thinking you have the high ground with abortion lol. Damn, you wouldn't even save someone if they were dying in front of you and it took 10min out of your life. That's cold. That's really cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:45 AM
1

Yeah, and saving lifes really does mess with the other responsibilities in life. I know, that's why I'm not doing it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:35 AM
1

So you rather keep being comfy instead of saving a life? Well...#MeToo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:23 AM
1

More like "my life is more important then your life", but sure, convenience. Just like how you are not donating part of your liver (grows back in under a year) to safe someone else their life...out of convience!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:20 AM
0

WOOP WOOP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 01:57 AM
1

So we've come back to the original comment. It's only hypocritical if they are also out there calling +6 feet millionaire's a 5, but they are actually doing that.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 01:04 AM
2

I thought you had already established that with your John Legend example
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 12:57 AM
0

I don't think you fully understood the post on FDS then... That wasn't a post against ratings (although I'm sure you can find one, just not this particular one), it was a post against unrealistic ratings.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 12:41 AM
0

So you are saying that I'm wrong... because they are actually doing the equivalent of calling a +6feet millionaire a 5?
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 12:36 AM
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You make the mistake of assuming that the definition of a LVM is the same for TRP and FDS. TRP often times says that women are liars about what they want because they say that they want X, but they go for Y? Well TRP defines a HVM according to Y and FDS defines a HVM according to X.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:31 AM
1

It's only hypocritical if they consider a +6 feet millionaire a 5.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 12:09 AM
1

SEE, my generation! You are old 20's-early 30's right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:41 PM
1

The problem with feminism is that's it's too damn big and global. Yes, it was an organized bombing by the whole group in the area that they lived in, but there's 10.000's of groups of feminism. You can't point to one and say "they've done X", because they'll pipe up with "No we haven't, those other people claiming to be feminists did X but they are NOT actual feminists.". It makes it impossible to hold them accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:20 PM
-2

We’ve learned they will fight for the right to murder their unborn children. Ya damn right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 11:04 PM
1

...the suffragettes BOMBED shit. Them just marching around is feminism rewriting history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:59 PM
2

Do you really think feminism hasn't evolved at all in the last 2-3 decades? ...have you noticed their last evolution? Almost all organized feminist organisations also include male rights. Statements like these really have me thinking that red pillers are my generation. Because you lot say a lot of things that's currently outdated, but was very true when I was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:55 PM
4

The middle class is increasingly sliding towards poverty as the economic landscape changes. That's because the rich are getting richer (less competition where you can work your way up in) and most middle class jobs are getting replaced by minimum wage jobs. Nothing to do with sexual revolution. A college education, especially in the liberal arts, pays a lower return than it used to. Same reason, more minimum wage jobs...waaaay too many.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:33 PM
1

And if a fake startup gets you to invest your money, that's fraud?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:18 PM
1

There are no legal roadblocks to stop you from buying an airplane ticket. There's no fake airplane company that keeps promising you tickets until you are too late to buy a ticket from someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 10:09 PM
1

Under the right circumstances, they have a final say. The right circumstances being: old enough that you can have an abortion without parental approval, old enough that you don't need the permission of the courts, not getting tricked by a fake abortion centrum whose main goal it is to get you too far along, ability to travel to abortion centrum (usually only 1 per state), ability to follow abortion by-laws (some which require you to have a 48hour waiting period between visits), others which requ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 09:38 PM
1

Yes. I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:57 PM
1

Is the job a stable job? Attractiveness: stability. Is the job an unstable job? Unattractiveness: instability to happen in future at unknown time for unknown length with unknown outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:11 PM
1

I think companies are a lot more forgiving for women than men in this case. Yes, but even with the most forgiving Company, you still have natural consequences and sacrifices. And most of the forgiving goes to moms who didn't become a SAHM, who stayed home for recovery and came back when recovered. But try being a NEET male for even 1 or 2 years. The only job you're probably jumping back in is something like fast food or low paying hard labor. That's where most SAHP's end up. The few that have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:47 AM
1

The problem of job searching is the unemployment of a couple of years during which they were a SAHP. Why should the mother be compensated for her sacrifices, when the father made sacrifices too? Because usually when I'm arguing about this topic, it's against people who want to remove the sacrifices from the father from the communal goods and to give it back completely to the dad because he deserves it for working for it. I probably shouldn't have responded like that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:33 AM
5

I'm autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:36 PM
2

So you've created a scenario where the dad only benefits from the sacrifices made by the SAHM without having to do anything in return if the marriage ends up in divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:54 AM
1

And what before the kids are in school?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:02 AM
2

It has.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 04:25 AM
1

Well... that can be a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:59 AM
1

Because someone that isn't a full yes, doesn't give the relationship it's full effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:44 AM
1

How so? Another person btw, in my personal experience, me asking always ends up with a "yes", even if the guy isn't that interessted in me, which is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:11 AM
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Yeah a d I'm saying I'll fucking riot if people like me can't get this choice, but others kind of get forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:50 PM
1

Stay at home parents don't exist as much anymore because both spouses can work once a child reaches school age (and often do). And what until the kid reaches school age? Custody will usually revert to the primary caretaker as has been explained to me(which is usually the mother). Yeah... because there shouldn't be a primary caretaker. You both should be the primary one. If there is a primary caretaker, that means that the other parent isn't as good of a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 11:47 PM
1

People on average stop having sex for 2 years after a new baby (average), so that's a lot of broken home's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:24 PM
1

I mean...the people that want too (me) can't currently get a sterilisation, but you want to get people that DO want kids to get sterilised?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:21 PM
1

Wrong gender
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 12:22 AM
1

Oh WoW, I agree with most of that... I thought I was blue pill? So that's not blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:57 PM
-1

men with an above average penis are universally more desired That has a practical function. Offcourse are more potential orgasms more desired. tall men No. They are not. Taller then themselves is desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:12 PM
2

Yeah, I can count the times that that happened on one hand
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:08 PM
7

Oh come on... Most people would agree that women are typically more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:07 PM
8

And women have the final say in procreation *Some women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:42 AM
1

Because OJ wasn't tried in the court of TikTok, but the court of sensational tv.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 09:21 AM
1

as long as we get rid of some older relics of the past as well- like alimony But the not all of the older relics that caused alimony to excist are gone (stay-at-home parent). Another thing to consider is to default to shared custody That... Is the current default.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:41 AM
1

I think that from a feminists point of view, a no-fault divorce without penalty was needed in the past because of certain issues in that time period. But those problems aren't here anymore, so we can/should go back to penalties. No-fault needs to keep excisting, because people that fall out of love don't do that because they can divorce. Eliminating no-fault divorce just means that the people that want to divorce will create a fault to get out. Should people who abandon their SO in divorce be pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 08:34 AM
8

And except the paternity fraud: not even in the same league as the shit I listed. And except the paternity fraud And except except
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 07:36 AM
8

Really? Being lied to about the paternity of your child for 20 years is just as bad as rape. Which is why I said everything except that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:44 AM
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Yeah...so I tried to stay away from tropes that happen to both gender and tried to keep it minimal: She’s fucking around on Tinder. That's cheating (and applies to both genders) She’s a reformed slut who’s not really reformed That's cheating She decorates your house like the Barbie Dream Home and banishes you to the garage. That's controlling (and applies to both genders) She complains when you go to the gym. That's controlling She complains when you do anything that doesn’t involve her. That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:34 AM
2

I'm sure that that's the only type of women wanting to get close to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:12 AM
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Having sex while not in the mood for it is 'actually terrible'. And if you are going to assume best case scenario for a woman complaining, then you should also compare it to best case scenario of men complaining. Yes...sucks so bad that you had to give her money worth the amount of sacrifices she made for you so that you could have that amount of money. Poor guy ;-(.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:49 AM
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More chance of me getting married as a man then as a woman. Typical complaints of men: divorce rape. Typical complaints of women: abuse/housemaid/sex doll So...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:43 AM
1

Because there's less of a stigma against abortion then sterilisation as a woman. "Not wanting to be pregnant right now" = ok. And even if it wasn't ok, then they don't want to force consequences on people by refusing. "Not wanting to be pregnant right ever" = not ok. And even the doctors thinking that it's ok, wonder why you don't just use birth control and have an abortion when shit goes wrong. No need to make it permanent. I mean, doctors aren't slaves and they benefit from the same freedom of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 02:35 AM
1

Still not true though. Whether or not you can get a sterilisation entirely depends on the beliefs of your doctor. Some don't sterilise anyone unless it's for a medical need, some sterilise only from +35years, some from 30+, some if you already have kids, some if you are married, some if you are married and have permission of your spouse, ... And if you don't happen to fall within the category of what your doctor approves off: you ain't getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:39 AM
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Or you and/or your husband could have done the smart thing to begin with, but whatever. I wanna do the smart thing now. I'm not allowed. Sterilisation isn't easy to obtain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:15 AM
2

Because I'm autistic, that's a comment I could have written when I was worse at social conduct and I can give you resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:29 AM
2

But that was a really good explenation, only a bit too offensive and you dug your heels in. So...do you truly not understand that social construct? Do you really think it's "wahmen"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:17 AM
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At these points, it is more likely that you will want or be okay with a child. Absolutely not. As I said it DECREASES the "need", I didn't say it entirely eliminated it Unless the need is eliminated, it stays one of the most important topics in a relationship. If I have 4 kids and don't want a 5th after the oldest one is almost out of the house, then I still need that abortion, even though we've been commited for years. It's stays one of the most important topics until my body stops being fertil…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 12:06 AM
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Dressing up was the one that does the most for your looks out of that list. That's a pretty big 'other than'. And men really don't take grooming to that extend. Most of the time, trims don't happen until it can't be ignored. No skincare whatsoever. Nails also keep growing until they are too big to ignore. Etc etc. It's practical-based, not "I wanna look good". And even people who don't dress up will do so for dates or special occasions So I only get to find you super attractive on dates or speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:57 PM
1

They also say it IRL, the issue is that marriage has been romanticized to the point that some people really think that all it takes is love to overcome all obstakels. So when marriage turns into hard work, with some resentment (will always happen, everyone has a couple of flaws), they think that they chose wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:53 PM
3

You truly are autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:49 PM
1

Dressing up, shaving/trimming/whatever your beard, combing your hair, getting a haircut when the hair looks bad, ...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:31 PM
1

That's why I repeatedly use the word grooming instead of hygiëne. They know hygiëne, like needing to shower. They don't know how to groom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 04:37 PM
1

It's not that I disagree with the underlying scheme, I dislike the negativity. Why was it so vengefull? Why isn't it just that we have standards and "we don't drop them out of persuit of our own happiness" instead of "we don't drop them, because fuck you men."?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:38 PM
1

Why did you have to turn it into that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:22 PM
1

You don't have to move in together to assess this. Do people not know how to vet character? Oh boi, you are going to get a rude awakening if you truly think that you can test that shit out without living together. Example time, I love my dearest SO. He's the best possible match for me. But that dude snores and I'm a soft sleeper. Obviously we have worked it out, but there's a bunch of shit that can be a dealbreaker that's not a character flaw. Heck, you don't know what you can handle until you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 01:04 PM
1

How is this a concern? Being chaste decreases the "need" for abortions. Oh, so I'm never ever having sex again if I get together with someone chaste? drag queens Don't mind soas Don't know what this is If one person decides they wish to change their look, the other is not obligated to stay with them. In my experience it usually goes the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:56 PM
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presumably you are just dating until you make the decision to buy a place No? Who the fuck buys a place together without living together? You've been bitching so far about how much money you are saving, but then you wanna dive in head first with a person you might not be able to live with? Do you have any idea how much money you are losing like that? I suppose women aren't held to the same standard but eh. Why the fuck do you keep asking rethorical questions and then follow them up with an answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:08 PM
2

Ehhhh, in my personal experience: the traditionalists know that they are unwanted and they are very good at hiding that part away until you are commited in some way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:34 AM
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You forgot the worst one: never living seperately from your damn parents. They are your parents and you love them and you've learned to live with their flaws. Any potential girlfriend hasn't. So the potential girlfriend suddenly has to deal with the flaws of 3 people (because everyone is flawed) instead of 1, while the other 3 already form a team, based on years of intimate relationship, so it will take ages to get 'in'... that's if you ever get 'in'. Basically it's high school all over again an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:09 AM
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I absolutely understand. Stereotypes suck. I usually try to give people...I don't want to say the benefit of the doubt...but I guess my English is too limited to find better words? As in, I try to not let my prejudice influence me. But I'm just so terrified of ending up with traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:02 AM
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Here's a suggestion, if you want to know why it's worse then dating a deadbeat: ask. You are attached to this independence idea because it's glamorous even though housing costs and tax eat up your cheque. Live your life but young people who live with their parents AND work are in a great position. Because this is you not having a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 10:56 AM
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That's after college and that's my interpretation of the wall. Men can finally catch up because they start to groom when their boss dissaproves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 10:41 AM
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I grew up in a majority white small town and went to great lengths to leave and be less like them. Rest assured that my views have taken a departure from my hometown and that no other man I know from there stayed chaste 'til marriage. Not what I was trying to say. I was trying to say that you need to find a way to make it clear you do not belong with them, because you saying you are chaste, will make women put you in their group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 10:39 AM
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Pretty sure I owned a house before you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 10:33 AM
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Chaste men are largely pro choice progressives who want to give women anything they ask for to a fault. Chaste is a traditional view, but you are saying that those are not traditional men? I need to see data on that before I can belief it. For what it's worth, I think these traditionalists suck all around, not just as relationship prospects Even if what you are saying is true and chaste men are not like them, you are still putting yourself in that group because me thinking that chaste=traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 10:01 AM
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I'd say that 'magic the gathering' is a death sentence with a bunch of the unattractive women too. Nothing to do with the actual game, but the last guy I knew that played it ended up being coined the 'pokemon go killer' by our newspapers. We all know someone like that, that plays magic the gathering. Or maybe it's because I'm in the geek community? I just know too many actual weirdo's that play gathering.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 09:24 AM
6

An average guys grooming game is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 09:19 AM
3

I'd worry about a range of traditional views, doesn't even need to be that extreme. Anti-abortion is my first worry, limitations on my self-expression by looks is a second one (I personally really enjoy that), do I need to be a SAHM? Am I going to do the majority of household chores because I'm the woman? Is everything that I'll do that's feminine going to be seen as proof that I wanna do all the other traditional female roles even if I verbalize that I don't? Etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 09:04 AM
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Do you not understand what is the definition of average? 20% is not the average by any stretch of the imagination. I was quoting you... And there's a minimum standard that you have to reach to be able to apply. To put it extremely: I don't fucking care if only 70% of men take more then a weekly shower (made up statistic), showering more then weekly is the minimum required. Yes, I'll fucking compete for 30% if they are the only one's showering. 20% of men werent even metrosexual, In all my lifeti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:51 AM
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To be honest... I worry if I hear a man is chaste by choice. I'd probably be running the other way too. And it's not because chaste is bad... it's because I connect chaste to another type of person and that type is bad. And I'm just not willing to risk dating that type.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:44 AM
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Ever been to the make-up subs? The fashion subs? The bitching about inlaws subs? The hair subs? The baking subs? The craft subs? Any type of sub that's primarily for women without politics? No? Well... I'm not exactly suprised then that you are not meeting a variety of women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:41 AM
2

A man can make 6 figures and still live with his parents . . . that's even worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:32 AM
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What's a sad horrible thing is that only about 20% are considered average or above average for women. That's because only about 20% makes an effort, it's so bad that they used to have a term for the 20% that made an effort...metrosexual. Because trying to look good as a man, is apparantly worth it's own sexual orientation. That's how little effort is usually given.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 08:30 AM
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But those people ruin it for the rest. On other hateful subs, they get told "you know, we kinda think you are right...but Reddit rules. You can't say that here. Here's a temp ban. We think you are in the right though!". An example of that is the r/childfree sub, they openly admit that a portion of their rules are just to keep the sub alive, that they don't agree, but that they will act harshly to protect the sub. But on MGTOW and the like, those people get defended because they are only 'venting…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 07:54 PM
2

Admins decide it, probably influenced by outrage and reports. But... there's not exactly a need for a visual line if one group doesn't have any boundaries at all. Like seriously... r/MGTOW has this guy that takes beautifull pictures of cities and every single time there's one commenter at least going "See what we can do if we never gave women rights." or simular. They are pretty pictures (sorry, gorgeous)...how can you find some way to make it about women...every single time. And this is extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 06:59 PM
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Because the people that are misandric generally stay within the limits where it's not bad enough behavior for the amount of trouble you'll have to go through to report/ban them. Like purge week on this sub. A lot of shit gets said then that's not ok. Last purge had a huge amount of racism. But that's condoned because it's the one week and then done. It's still not ok, but under those circumstances it's allowed. Misogynistic subs for some reason (I have a guess) don't know how to stay within the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 12:41 PM
1

Yeah I understand, I'm trying to say that I'm the type that should have a high n-count and I don't fit within your limits of +20 by the time college ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:11 PM
0

I'm not going to argue whether or not it's wrong. I'm going to explain how it has grown into being different. We have sex for it's pleasure and orgasms. Having an pleasurable orgasm is good sex, having just pleasure is ok sex. If you don't at least get pleasure out of sex, then it's not worth having sex. Having sex always comes with consequences, so it's bad sex if you haven't had any pleasure, but still are at risk for the consequences. give the woman an amazing time and be excellent lovers. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 07:10 PM
1

I'm the type of women that's described here as someone that they want to avoid through checking n-count. I'm in an open relationship and I keep fucking around. My n-count is 13, I'm 28. I'm not the highest n-count of my friend group. We all screw around. I'm 4th highest, but only 1 woman has an n-count of over 30 (over 200 actually, but everyone else is under 30) and she's not filtering anyone at all. Most women filter. It's not just that we are 'sluts' and fuck around... Our n-count will still …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:43 PM
3

A good thing, because I personally belief that the human race on this planet can't survive without reducing the species. Which means that we are going to have an economic disaster, people dying, political structures re-organizing... All the bad things, but after that, we (human race) can survive again. And if we don't reduce the population, we are either going to die off or legalize forced euthanasia off elder people. And if people refuse to stop having more kids, then I don't see how we could e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:29 PM
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But Olsen's new money comes from fashion... she's not making any money at best, more likely is that she's losing a lot of money. Fashion is hit hard because nobody is buying clothes for weddings and events, because there aren't any weddings and events. The stock she has right now from starting this crisis is already going to need to be sold at a loss because it's already last season. Her new stock still can't be sold at a profit, the next one probably won't either. Fashion plans 2 years ahead an…
/r/PussyPassDenied15/05/20 10:54 AM
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Yeah... And it's the only thing that makes sense? He can't legally kick her out while they are married, she doesn't need an emergency divorce in order to keep being able to use the properties. He changes the locks and she can just call a locksmith or break a window. But what divorce does do is make her stuff untouchable.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/05/20 08:21 AM
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The way I read it, she's mostly worried about her stuff and her inability to get to her stuff due to COVID.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/05/20 08:01 AM
2

"Women are having sex when they don't desire it." And they wonder why marital dissatisfaction rises for women? It's right there!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 05:22 AM
10

Addiction isn't usually a concious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:13 AM
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Didn't you read the stories? All these women almost always have an SO that has a porn addiction. "He can't come unless we are doing it in X position, while I'm wearing a blonde wig and moan about 'his dapper rod'."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 12:07 AM
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1- No 100% strict monogamy, whatever interpretation that might give 2- After 10 years together, that person in front of you has completely changed, make sure that they haven't changed into a stranger 3- Don't try to achieve equality in everything. Your end goal should be 'both parties are happy with the solution'. That can mean some inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:59 PM
4

Because I keep receiving dick pics or being called a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:53 PM
3

There's an inverse correlation between how much you focus on a negative while raising your child and what they will be interessted in sexually. As in, in countries where something is taboo, there are more people into that taboo then in other countries. For instance: more people grow up to be gay, in the bible belt then in more liberal areas. (Not an actual study...yet... but: rise of feminism/strong independent woman and bdsm?) The theory behind this is, that as humans we are sexually attracted …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:38 PM
1

Except I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:38 PM
1

Female friendly porn is an actual thing https://www.bellesa.co/ https://www.forhertube.com/ And more am I not clicking on at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:37 PM
1

I always included erotica. Read all my original comments? Do you read mine? That wasn't the type of add I was describing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:55 AM
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That's...not... frequency... Wait, why do you keep thinking that's frequency? Also it’s relatively equal in frequency when including erotica. ...did you just straight up add the literotica to pornhub stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:48 AM
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I don't need to do that as I've proven that women watch porn less then men. And you've already set the tone that proving that women watch porn in simular amounts as men == it's equally important.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:17 AM
1

No, I countered your evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:15 AM
1

No, you are claiming I did while simultaneously saying that I'm wrong. My stat is not about frequency or importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:12 AM
1

It’s not a stat about importance either. Neither is yours
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:08 AM
1

That's not a stat about frequency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:06 AM
1

If 33% women watching porn proofs that porn is equally as important to women, then that 0% of men (or close) by the age of 18 can not claim to not at some point regularly having watched porn compared to women still being able too, is proof that porn is not equally as important to women. And mine is based on multiple scientific studies from different sources being unable to perform a study, not corporate propaganda. My statistic has higher value then yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:56 PM
1

The fact that we can't do scientific studies on the effect of porn-use with men... because they can't find control people. Women can still do scientific studies on the effect of porn!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:34 PM
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There is no such thing. Female porn is what porn females watch. Well then I suddenly understand why pornhub can have it... because it's not real!!! Btw, female porn is porn that puts more focus on aspects that are typically important to arouse a woman. Like, they include a story line and they make sure that the script keeps being in line with the story (why women love literotica so much) or there's more fantasy elements like a unicorn, or there is more glamour or some others. Usually just the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:25 PM
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I think female porn is whatever females watch. So... you don't know what female porn is, but you are absolutely sure that pornhub has it! Both men and women consume porn. Women especially in the form of erotica and often put equal importance on such outlets. And I had an argument stating that even if it's true that they both equally consume porn, then it's still not a fair comparisson
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:16 PM
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Pornhub is not all male porn. That's not an answer. What do you think that female porn is? Your argument doesn’t hold weight. Well...if you are not going to respond to the arguments so that we can have a debate, then it makes me question whether or not you can recognize the arguments well enough to make a statement like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:10 PM
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Pornhub is literally not all male porn lol Do you know what female porn is? it doesn’t matter of what importance. Yes it does. If you have two sons and their father dies and leaves each of them a company in his will, except one company is bankrupt and the other one is worth a million, then that's not equal. They both got the same, both 1 company, but still one of them got screwed. And if they both got 50% of the same company, except one son has invested a lot of money to keep the company floatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:02 PM
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The difference between looking at someone else naked and exposing your naked self to other people can’t not be stressed enough. Not arguing about that, I disagree with OP. Women watch porn too. The difference isn’t very much. 33% of pornhub users are women and including erotica and other forms of porn, porn is viewed by both men and women. First off, pornhub doesn't release how they know which parties are women. We have no idea how true that data is. I VERY much doubt the 33% and I don't see how…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:45 PM
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A man consuming porn is equivalent to a woman consuming porn. It is NOT equivalent to a woman producing porn. Are the genders different? I'd argue yes and porn is one of the differences. Men are typically more visual and some men need porn to masturbate. Men consume the biggest amounts of visual porn. Porn by large is made for men and not for women. It's a false equivalence to compare something that's important to one group (men) and say that the other group who doesn't think it's important (wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 10:19 PM
1

Why? Also how do you know tf2 when you are 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:04 PM
1

Sorry, didn't realise this was r/PurplePillAgree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:00 PM
1

Doubt it. Muscles are attractive because they make you feel safe. This misses the safe mark. This level shows more about commitment to the task and perseverance until results show, which are traits that men admire, not women. My first comment was phrased as a joke...but not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:40 PM
2

Ehhh, turned unattractive by overdoing it for me personally. Went from "oh that's hot" to "dude can bash my head in".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:18 PM
1

Imo any type of visual strength is ok. The amount of work that goes into this body is overkill and unneeded. It's more likely to impress guys, because of the hard work you've done.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:15 PM
3

and women are attracted to muscles. Not like in the example given
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:52 AM
10

I can imagine you getting lots of compliments, because it looks like a lot of steady work to get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:04 PM
90

Working out as a man... What you think is going to happen: more women will be attracted to you. What actually is going to happen: more men will be attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:09 PM
1

Which imo is only the goal of the emotionally unavailable or the one's unable to have a series of flings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:07 PM
1

neural prosthetics are a decade out Shiver down my spine at the thought
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:51 PM
2

If your personality is that trashy, then maybe go fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:49 PM
3

Blue pill will say there is no "game" just being yourself. Look we all know thats fucking nonsense I'm not fucking blue, but that is the game. Here's the problem with anything else: you can't keep it up. You can't keep pretending to be someone you are not. And then they leave anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:36 PM
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12 years
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 06:01 PM
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I keep reading all these posts about how women take their own “red pill” when they find out that men’s top attraction factor isn’t intelligence. Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:05 PM
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He was there
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:56 AM
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I think it's better than Poly when it comes to raising children, they won't find out that mom and dad like to fuck the neighbors Well...we don't want kids. This is a reasonable perspective. I don't understand people that think it's a bad perspective, like... why even be in a relationship if it makes you so insecure that you need to check up and deny each other shit in order to feel better? I don't trust or expect anything from them very liberating. And coming home to someone is also very comfy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:20 AM
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Must.contain.sarcasm It started at 17, because I don't belief that monogamy is truly achievable until the people unable to be monogamous can say so (and by that remove themselves from mono relationships) without social ostracisation. Between the choices of not fully trusting my partner or an open relationship, I had chosen an open relationship. It never broke off. Also...why only have chocolate ice cream the rest of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:05 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:54 AM
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She's the only one not being poly???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:45 AM
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I usually do
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:58 PM
1

The usual response is: "But then why are you in an open relationship???"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:45 PM
1

My SO - years long knowledge of my body and being able to laugh when things go wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:42 PM
1

Yeah and I personally think he's nr.1 in bright colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:53 PM
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Thnx, it's by Yellow Dog Tattoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:48 PM
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http://imgur.com/a/V6uNEey
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:14 PM
1

I like the best of every genre. So I like classical, but only on the level of Tsjaikovski, I like rap, but on the level of Lil Wayne, I like k-pop, but level SNSD, ... I don't like it when genres blend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:38 AM
2

You think bottom right is average?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:02 PM
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1 person? And I'm sure the person making the compilation tried hard to find more. (This isn't me agreeing or disagreeing with the concept of HVW, but your argument just sucks so much)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:47 PM
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If you are seriously going to do it, then you should create 2 profiles at the same time, so that there is a reasonable assumption of matching the same people. One profile is the asshole nazi pedo, one is profile is the comparisson. You give equal time to both profiles, maybe even partner up with someone else so that it's even in time and effort. And for extra credit, afterwards, when the test is done, you can check whether or not your matches have actually read the nazi profile. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:12 PM
1

Well duh. Now put in it that you are a nazi and imply that you are a pedophile, because that's the situation OP referenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:04 PM
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You know it's true. You are hiding behind technicalities, but you know it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:05 PM
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You are just rape-country and you can't change that imagine without actually stopping the crimes. No amount of lying will safe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:57 PM
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And in case you have forgotten, https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/rape-statistics-by-country/#dataTable Indians are doing MUCH better than several European nations whose men ladies wont discard due to their nationalities at all. It's easy to do better then others if in Sweden any type of sexual assuault gets logged as rape and India doesn't even have marrital rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:55 PM
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Yup, the key to fucking around is having a reputation of keeping your mouth shut, but also a reputation of getting around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:20 PM
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And I'm saying that even if all the girls behave normally getting looksmates (and a % always will, before or after OLD), the 70/30 ratio will make it look like they aren't doing that. that were DTF before then it does now. This is true though. They aren't DTF anymore. Girls keep trying to find ways to fuck without ruining their reputation. OLD is too popular to do that anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:11 PM
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"indians stealing jobs" Didn't say that, you made that from it. If you asked my opinion: it's their own fault for not having enough locals wanting to do that job. Wtf, india sends a miniscule part of its population as immigrants /job seekers in foreign nations which even considering our 1.3b population is hilariously small. But compared to the population of the countries they are going too, it's noticable. Everyone knows an Indian Guy or Four. Doesn't prove anything. The worst and the best both …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:06 PM
1

Yeah, and that's why these 'studies' are crap
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:53 PM
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Girls are always down to fuck, that's not new with OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:52 PM
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Nobody should argue about the chadfishing experiments. It's someone online doing (whatever) and giving us the results saying that he did X. We have no way of knowing if that's true. Dude could have altered his profile inbetween matching or anything else. Dude could have straight up photoshopped. That's not even needed to skew the results. To give a feminist example: there used to be this video going wild about a reasonably attractive women in New York walking around (only that) and getting catca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:42 AM
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You are aware that you guys also massively send out your countries citizens to work in different countries and we can see how they act towards women IRL? Also...yes, those articles represent the worst and only the worst. But that's FUCKING bad and in group. It shows a mentality, not an individual going off. And the limits are clearly... nowhere. Whenever there's a new way to sexually torture...comes from India.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:29 AM
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Hypergamy began to get out of control and now you have girls on there that are 3's and 4's all trying to get the best guys. It's my opinion that there's no hypergamy and that these girls would have excisted either way. No OLD: they are having their high standards IRL. There have always been people like that. OLD makes them visisble.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:44 AM
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A 4
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:09 AM
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You should be used as a sex toy Don't threathen me with a good time!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:56 AM
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trying to convince men they have a wall like women do. I don't even know which part you misinterpreted to come to that conclusion. Men can get pussy in their 30s and 40s. Didn't mention age anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:51 AM
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It should have been crushed. The model doesn't work unless you enforce a 50/50 ratio. For instance...no new men can join until a guy drops off. But that's not going to happen. Also...being agressive still works. To continue with my example: If you have 10% odds IRL and 2,5% odds on OLD, you can still be more successfull on OLD then IRL. How many new women can you reasonably meet IRL, a 100/month? And after a while that slows down. So you are stuck at 10 matches per month. But there's no limit to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:31 AM
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i do nicely outside, but the OLD stuff seem to be something very tough to pull out... It's supply and demand. There's a limited supply (women) and a high demand (men). It's not you, it's the 70/30 ratio. but i know some 6/7 who made it soooooooo Because you can be lucky, you can be agressive like my suggestion or you can lower your standards. Lucky speaks for itself. Agressiveness means your visibility goes up. L Let's say 10% of women like you IRL (everything simplified for explenation sake). T…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:06 AM
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Be agressive - B - E - agressive But not in the way that red pill suggests (being an asshole). Btw, I'm assuming you are male, this is advice only for males. You should be agressive in that you should keep swiping, keep making matches and don't stop swiping, more matches, more matches, more matches, ... You should be on those matches, sending a hello or something, sending something new if they don't reply, but not too quickly, because they might be busy and you don't want them to come to you and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:47 AM
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Yes...but I think that you and I see that sentence differently. I'm assuming that you mean raising standards/boundaries on who you'd date and doing that before the date. While I don't change my dating targets but have become more verbal about my standards/boundaries during the date. X happens, I don't like X: "Oh no, I don't personally like X, I would appreciate it if we do something else..". In my experience, most men are respectfull of boundaries, they just have a habit of pushing boundaries b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:25 PM
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Do you lack basic reading comprehension? Accusses me of this, then starts writing a comment that has nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:23 PM
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Do you have any idea how much time good make-up takes? Please for the love of god don't make that the standard, I like my freaking sleep. I'm fine being a 4, I still get all the dick I want. It's still a bloody double standard. But go ahead and continue thinking that bright lipstick (and the layers of makeup that come with it) aren't a problem ???? What??? What layers of make-up??? It's lipstick. I'm sure one day you'll find a Chad who doesn't skip out on you for that. 12y relationship here budd…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:20 PM
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If a 10 loses 2 points, he's still a fucking 8. If a 6 loses 2 points, he's below average. And dude doesn't lose his good haircut in a mugshot. If you need extensive prep to look good Combing your hair is now extensive prep? And it's not just that it looks bad, it's also a 5min job and they aren't doing it, that's double as unattractive. If we are gonna take away points for make-up (because cheating), then let's also take away points for laziness (because actually unattractive). and that's what …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 04:09 PM
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Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:28 PM
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subs don't care about makeup or dressing or lighting They actually do, they take off Points for things they dislike, like bright lipstick. They only take into account innate physical features And that's not a real representation of your score. If you look like a mess, but clean up nicely into a 6, then you are not a 6 right now. You are a mess right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:19 PM
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1
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:16 PM
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You are doing something. Either something to attract this type or something to turn off every other type.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:17 AM
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a surogate mother costs anywhere between 20.000 to 60.000€ That's only the actual surrogacy cost... you still need an egg and IVF. So it's closer to 200.000. And i feel insulted by you saying that I go for looks over personality, I have never done that, and that is another reason why I dislike women today, not even the ones with decent personalities are after an honest relationship. They either want to have more "fun", don't like the fact that I don't sport money or just outright think they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:03 AM
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Different continents apparantly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:28 AM
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I can make it worth your while (Wink Wink). But seriously speaking, it doesn't suck if either you or your partner are experienced and you both care about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:36 AM
1

RU a girl or Guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:22 AM
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I'm someone that gets turned out by tech skills. Seriously. Also I'm in my first year of programming 2nd bachelor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:52 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:48 AM
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Yeah, if you intentionally try to make sex suck, then you are the exception that I'm not into.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:44 AM
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Is it a small dick joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:42 AM
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Sex is fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:41 AM
1

Old enough to have been on 4chan during it's glory days? Then you've seen my pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:39 AM
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I don't get the joke
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:37 AM
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There is a 1st?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:36 AM
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What field?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:35 AM
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I'm just the age that I could experience the change. When women say it in their 20's: "But I'm comfterable like this. They should love me for who I am." Which btw, kinda true. Or "that's women stuff". Less true. But after their boss tells them to give a shit and they go through the uncomfterable moment, they usually start loving the feeling of looking damn good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:34 AM
3

Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:30 AM
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The main driver is that they start to give a damn about how they look. Not for women, for their job. Bye bye ragged t-shirts and loose jeans, here comes fitted shirts and proper jeans that show a nice butt. Bye bye uncombed hair with dandruff, here comes a haircut. Etc. You can't show up to work like that, your boss will drag you aside and have a talk about "representing the business". And it just looks damn good on y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:21 AM
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I don't like these purge posts because I know it's usually fixable unless you look like a troll and you would have mentioned it if you looked like a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:15 AM
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I'm not supposed to love men, I'm supposed to love my SO, I'm supposed to love my friends, not a generic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:12 AM
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Abortion is murder but let allah judge me. So... you are not a muslim (or at least not one that knows your scripture).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:02 AM
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D-A-B-C-E
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:55 AM
1

Yes, me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:52 AM
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see I think it’s the exact opposite. Go to the r/rateme sub. Pick the first 10 6's you can see from women and pick the first 10 6's you can see from men. (I'm saying 10 because exceptions happen). Put them next to each other and compare. Those are not looksmatches. The women 6's are usually still attractive, have put an effort in, while the male 6's are a mess that didn't even comb their hair. And I usually use that as an example because I personally think that if people can test it themselves, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:43 PM
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If you love someone would you risk that? Would you want to risk that? That's assuming that the marriages wouldn't have failed if they never got married. Divorce is still difficult and messy and both parties lose 50% of what they own. Even the jobless SAHM that only gains 50% loses. Divorce is a massive loss game with no winners. I'd argue that if people go through that mess and the courts and the lawyers, then they would have still left if there wasn't a court or lawyers stopping them. For what …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 07:18 PM
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Yeah, but because of the divorce rates and India has huge problems with good marriages. Which isn't gender restricted btw, there's this male politician that has a good carreer of 40 years and he's still getting hounded for illegally marrying his "2nd wife" and failing to support his "1st wife". Except he got forced to marry his first wife, ran away the first chance he got and had it annulled. He didn't spend a full day with his "1st wife" ever, yet 40 years later, he's still getting shit for tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:51 PM
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It is not. Divorce excisting doesn't equal divorce rape. And INDIA? You are bringing up INDIA as an argument against divorce, not for divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:47 PM
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You really really should keep trying. Like, most of the women that don't take advantage of you will see that as a dealbreaker. This team-bit is usually a requirement (and also why most of us don't belief the divorce-rape bit). So it has turned into a bit of a self-furfilling prophecy where you get into relationships with women that wanna take advantage because you don't trust women to not take advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 12:09 PM
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Your partner isn't anyone, you are supposed to be a team.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:21 AM
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Seems like a crappy way to do business whether or not they excist
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:19 AM
2

I'm not the one gaining benefits, I'm gifting benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:56 AM
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You seem very aware of what I can or can't do without even knowing where I live. I can donate something and the recipient gets to use it after I die Not a thing here. More then that, there's regulations in place to stop you from doing this unofficially. I live in a pretty socialist country. They want their taxes. Or sell something and the buyer has to take care of me trough a clause in the contract. I'm not rich. I don't have the 50.000 to spend on notary costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:45 AM
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Pretty sure I can't donate shit when I'm dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:32 AM
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Only in one direction. Media does not influence society, it only re-inforces pre-excisting notions that society already had.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:04 AM
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Because you usually don't live in business ventures and are not emotionally invested in keeping the business venture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:02 AM
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Yeah, I assumed as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:33 AM
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It totally is the same thing. Movies are full of concepts that are fake, yet we usually see right through them, but the moment it's something we believed it's all "but it was in them movies!". Society is what gives us our ingrained beliefs, not media.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:06 AM
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Would you get married now given the situation you just described? Or would you involve prenup? I'm currently (and have been for a while), trying to convince my SO to get married so that he can have half my stuff. You had me until there. You say you don’t believe the divorce stories but then you conveniently leave out the alimony details because “you should have known better?” pretty suspicious... The divorce stories are usually all about "we were madly in love", "then out of nowhere", "poor me".…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:25 AM
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Same as the concept of "love at first sight", but you don't belief that either, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:10 AM
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Never heard of the excistance of countries outside of America? And if I had millions, there wouldn't be a problem. 30% of millions is still a lot of money. I have 1,5 property, 30% of that is having to sell everything to pay the taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:07 AM
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Here's the thing, most women (myself included) don't belief the divorce rape stories. What we do belief is that the marriage estate gets cut up in half, 50% to one partner, 50% to the other partner. Alimony is only assigned in rare cases where it's deserved or you should have seen it coming because she was an obvious gold digger. And we think that when people say divorce rape, they talk about the 50/50 rule and we think it's fair. I have all the assets in my relationship. We've been together sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:27 AM
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Not the person you replied too, but having a simular problem. With a will, my SO gets roughly 30% of what I own after tax. With marriage, my SO gets 100% and no taxes. Oh and I'm the one that owns everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:17 AM
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Because I thought marriage was about love between two people - not the government. It's not and it has never been. And I personally don't understand why people think it is... If marriage was just about love, then marriage is useless because then it doesn't actually do anything except going "we're serious about each other". Why would we need that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:13 AM
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No. Marriage is about the legal ramifications. I'm not buying a house with someone I'm not married with. I'm not putting money in someone else's house, while I'm not married. If I wanted kids, I wouldn't get pregnant without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:08 AM
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Also, at best it's only the preferences of people that consume porn and only video porn at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:45 PM
1

I don't notice headturns at all? I'm a bit obtuse and very minded on the thing I'm doing (like walking from A to B, it's an autism thing), so I don't notice things like that until they are very obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 02:25 PM
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Then yeah, maybe you are that unattractive. Like, in my best years I was only a 6 and it happened daily at that point. I'm a 4 now, still happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:59 PM
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Or a resting bitch face? That seems to be more of a deterent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:46 PM
1

Every democracy is the same. Spoken as someone that hasn't ever looked at another democracy then those on the continent of America.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:26 PM
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Since when does America represent the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:10 PM
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Which is why they do stuff the majorities would like done, so they get voted in, so that they can do the overlord biddings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 02:57 PM
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I'm a 28y old and my dating options increased compared to 20y old me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:56 PM
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The majority most defenitly are. This doesn't always translate into something, if Carol wouldn't get off her ass for her niece, then she's not getting off her ass for some stranger online. But information gets spread more quickly, because enough women hit the minimum caring needed to re-post and information is gold when it comes to campaigning. If only 1% of a country of 100.000 cares enough to be an activist, but you can reach every one of them, that's a 1000 activists. If 10% of a country care…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:18 AM
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I was in an argument this week with someone here about male rights. He kept going on about how women aren't sympathic to their cause and I kept asking...but what are you doing? Are you spreasing information so women know that this is something that needs to be changed? Blabla. Eventually I got to the point of criticizing MRM's because they almost always go for counter-protests, which major use is to change the other party's strategy, it's a useless protest if you want to fix things... ...and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:11 AM
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Hmm, you might be right, I see MRM and all I see is a bunch of whiny man-children complaining because somebody else is getting all the attention. Apathy is putting it lightly. I can make it worse. I'm fighting for opt-out in Europe. MRM's are ruining it. We need to constantly affirm that out opt-out has nothing to do with them and we need to constantly explain that male rights has nothing to do with women hating because of them. And then they come out with a counter protest against feminism and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:06 AM
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I know what OP is talking about, but only because I already knew. The post doesn't explain it very well. Women are team-women in that they can hear about a complete stranger women being wronged and they are angry on her behalf. They don't want to become politicians, but any woman that wants to be one should have that ability. Etc etc. Standing on someone's side, when you don't know anything else about them, when you have no personal interest in their struggling, because they are women = team wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 09:01 AM
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The men who want to change the laws and society are mostly tradcucks who are still dreaming of reverting society back into a traditional state. They become politicians and then make a load of money and forget what they wanted to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:56 AM
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It's good that you aren't like that...both on average day there is always one. I'm not attractive but not ugly and I get the occasional head-turn and accosting. When I was younger and still not 8+, that shit was daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:39 AM
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I SHOULDNT have to convince you of anything. You should have never created this problem. You can't solve everything with "campaigning" sometimes you have to get tough. Sometimes you have to just blatantly trek someone that they are fucking up. Sometimes you just have to be brutally honest And this is why feminism is a succes and MRA's aren't By your logic unless I present my argument in a way that makes women look positive in sexist. I hate women if I believe unrestrained human nature is ugly? K…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:55 AM
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But it's sexism to you because I didn't walk on eggshells. That's called campaigning. Do you think that the one's advocating for people with mental disabilities go around calling them retards? You keep saying over and over again that women are illogical and not open for criticism and yet you are the one insisting that it's logical to say brutish things and that people should support you even though you are not civil. And when I go: "That's not how the world works", you go: "Women". I'm calling y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:32 AM
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And people that are MRA usually have no problems saying the same things that you do and that's why MRA gets labeled women hating. And always trying to use truth/logic as a shield when there's nothing logical about being offensive in order to gain support from the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:52 AM
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In the second sentence you blame women for a sexless epidemic and you accuse them of having a beastiac hypergamy. 2nd fucking sentence. If you don't understand why that's offensive, then I don't know who you manage to function in society. Like, you can't keep a job with language like that. The rest of the 2nd sentence wasn't any better either. Let alone the other sentences. You and the other MRA'S don't seem to be able to talk without the disdain of women dropping all over the floor. But for a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:55 PM
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You're proving my point that mra are labeled as woman hating. Because they are full of people that are motivated out of women hate or feminist hate. And when those people open their mouth to argue about male rights, that women hate spills out. Like, I keep repeating this. Why doesn't this make sense to you? If you go AWALT, you get labeled a women hater. MRA's are full with men that AWALT. It's not the male right part that causes the label women hater, it's all the damn AWALT. But they are doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:53 PM
1

The linked data has date's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:44 PM
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Which clearly are a negative. ...how is being guaranteed an orgasm with 0 risk of pregnancy a negative? But the issue isn't that they aren't it's simply they only choose to do so with the hawtest possible guy. A majority is not having ONS whatsoever. Not at all. If you honestly believe women run through a risk reward check list in their head before they have sex that's ridiculous. You don't know a lot of women do you... Or is it teenagers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:43 PM
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The data is from 2009.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:39 PM
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How so? Because you all keep sending out this message that people that care about mens rights are woman haters. And all I'm doing is, "Nonono, this is important. Doesn't have anything to do with hating women. Hear me out and you'll understand why it's fair." And then you all show up and talk about male rights, while showing a clear picture of (at the very least) disliking women and then the conversation switches from why opt-out is fair to why opt-out isn't an attack on women. You can't get shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:37 PM
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Did you look at the date from that stat?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:28 PM
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Post wall is created by having kids. These are women that aren't having kids. who are more interested in riding cock carousel or to "explore their sexuality." Only 3 out of them, including me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:27 PM
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Belgium is not conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:25 PM
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Then I suggest that you get out of your line of work and find a better one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:24 PM
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Not legal, expensive, high risk. Not a viable option Then complain about that Women did not fucking adapt they always have had the ability to get sex on tap. Was talking about toys Masturbation isn't sex. But sex requires another person and you can't control other people, so masturbation is what you have to work with. Yes the problem is obviously women don't want to. The question is why. Simple risk versus reward. The reward for women is lower then for men, 75% require clitoral stimulation to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:21 PM
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See? You don't agree with opt out so you don't care. I'm an actual opt-out activist in Europe. We got it on the ballet twice. You and people like you, make my work harder. The sexlessness epidemic is just an example of women not giving a fuck about a problem men have that doesn't effect them. Go.to.a.hooker. Adapt like us, there are really Fun eggs for masturbation that give a bunch of Fun sensations. But having sex is a 2 person activity and you can't force people to do something that they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:47 PM
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Central Europe. In my experience, the women that want to marry, marry young. Right out of college (which is usually 21-22 here).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:36 PM
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YOU tried to turn it into a conversation about men's rights. Not really a topic I'm very concerned about That was the only conversation I was having here. since as stated you can't group up as men without being negatively labeled. Yeah you can. Just stop acting shitty every time you group up. Your behavior gets you negatively labeled, not your gender. You think of things as acceptable within organizing for a cause ("comparing opt-out to abortion" and you calling that logic) and you can't bloody …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 04:25 PM
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What condescencion? I'm just a naturally unpleasent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:16 PM
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That proves my point more then yours, that it's a loud minority
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:06 PM
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Ever met someone FDS IRL? My point with the sub was that if you go to a sub dedicated to one subject, then you'll find a lot of proof of that subject, regardless of how it translates in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:51 PM
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I'm 28, all the women that I know that wanted to get married, got married... between the ages of 20-23 and there's not a lot of them. 3 out of 20 of the same age category. The rest does not want to get married. If they want kids, they want to do it solo. Most don't want kids. It's a gender trope that's around since we've been growing up, with all the movies of the guy getting dragged to the alter, all the jokes and etc and because of that, if we see 1 in a 100 women behaving like that, we think …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:50 PM
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I was trying to highlight that these things are repulsive for the same reason that ugly looks are repulsive. If you understand why you feel repulsed about an obese woman, then you understand why low status can be repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:40 PM
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/r/Men_of_the_Wall This is an entire sub dedicated to men hitting the wall. That doesn't bloody mean that the concept of the wall is also appliable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:38 PM
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I do not. I'm talking about majorities. What else am I supposed to do if the question doesn't apply to me? You don't seem to be having a problem with the men discussing this as a theory about groups of women, at least...you aren't when they are in agreement with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:31 PM
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Most people here would be repulsed by the obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:24 PM
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I had experiences with this back in school. First off, teenagers in a school environment doesn't represent how adults will behave. All women care about this a lot more than some would admit. But this is true. Although I'd argue that it's simular to visual attraction to men. Not gorgeous, but attractive enough = fuckable. Not high status, but not embarressing = dateble. And then you have the people that only fuck 9's and 10's and the people that only fuck high status men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:23 PM
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More importantly, why are men whom do not have these skills, so repulsive to you? Why are women whom do not have the attractive features or body, so repulsive to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:19 PM
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I don't know any women IRL that does this: There are many many women who want to get married complaining that they can't find a *suitable" mate (suitable to them) Do you? Have you heard this complain offline since you aren't a teenager anymore? Also look at whose complaining online: single moms with multiple kids. Why aren't the single childless unmarried women complaining? It's a loud minority that wants kids and marriage and they start soon and are back in the dating scene soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:15 PM
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Tropes can change. How many 25-30y old women do you talk too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:12 PM
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especially men Doubt. In my personal experience, in real life, it's the women that don't want too. This is another decicion that's made by women, that men just get to go along with. Kids are up next. Almost my entire generation is against having kids, not because they don't want them, feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:04 PM
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And what if the kid that got put up for adoption never got a new family? What if his actual blood relatives that aren't the parents want to have a connection? The parents can be strangers all they want, but they shouldn't have the right to choose to exclude the kid completely from the family. They gave up any rights to make decicions for the kid when they gave them up for adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:48 AM
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the fathers should have the right to opt out of fatherhood, same as mothers have the right to abort. Not the same thing Fathers should have the added right to opt out and mothers should also have the added right to opt out. should not have the means to reach out to bio faily against the bio-parents wishes. Why? That's their family too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:34 AM
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How would I know? I assume comfort except the rare few that don't stop being demanding after I let it know that I don't appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:05 AM
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Are there any patterns, trends, or common attitudes or behaviors that you’ve noticed about the men you’ve been with? Not especially Especially the men that you’ve only recently become acquainted to. Nothing comes to mind How variable are these men? What do you mean? Is their behavior usually any different pre- and post-? Yes. Pre-: they are afraid to ask for anything/say their preference. Post-: they become demanding and everything is sex sex sex sex sex. Are they usually kind and interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:39 AM
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Who are you imitating? I'm saying that your statement doesn't match my personal experiences and I gave specific examples. Why would anything be ruined by logic? What the fuck is logical about being mad at women or feminism, criticizing women or feminism and then crying that neither women or feminism cares about you? The only reason disparities in sentencing got brought up is because you said women didn't get sympathy when acting shitty. They do not. This conversation was never about men's rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:27 AM
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Abortion isn't bad. There's too many kids in the system. More abortions would lighten the system and maybe we'll then have the resources to make sure that the kids in the system are taken care off. More abortions over adoptions please. They will either keep the child and possibly treat it poorly Also imo bullshit. You don't pay a cost of 18 years of childrearing for privacy. That's a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:53 AM
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You know what I'm seeing, me bringing up that sex doesn't require an 18 year sentence and a lot of people are sympathetic. I bring up how the defenition of rape has been labeled as forced penetration and excludes male rape victims from being considers and people are outraged. I say that male rights isn't about women hating, there's some serious problems and people agree. And then a self-labeled MRA comes by screaming about "opt-out is the same as abortion so we should get it too", "AWALT", "it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:27 AM
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I'm asking you why women wouldn't just give sympathy as a default? Why did it have to get to this point? Because there's too much things to fight for. There's global warming, orphans, the foster care system, abusive pet breeding, palm oil, the rain forest, money out of politics, our own damn rights, child abuse, sex slavery, regular slavery, kids being taken away from their parents and locked in cages, polio in third world countries, anti-vaxxers here, ... You can probably imagine even more caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:10 PM
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Oh is that why they are punished less harshly than men in virtually any crime? That's caused by sexism, based on years of pre-conceived notions of gender. Just like it was with women. But yeah, the reason why men getting harsher punishment doesn't get fixed is that you don't group up and demand change. Googling "sympathy politics" yields nothing on Google, probably because it's nonsense you just made up. Did you just prove my point? Feminists scream and yell and can all men rapists and they get …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:30 PM
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So wait you said men need to group up but then said when they do they can't get sympathy. Men don't group up, even MRA's don't group up. Red pill is the most grouped up that I've ever seen from men and even then it's focussed on the individual instead of the group. It's up to a point where I'm wondering if you are even able to group up. but then said when they do they can't get sympathy. Because you act like assholes. Assholes don't get sympathy. When women or children act like assholes, they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:50 PM
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Most of the times the argument is "the child deserves a father".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:57 PM
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ALSO, my problem is with both. I want to stab someone with a fork.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:19 PM
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The kid is alive and deserves to know it's grandparents and uncles and nieces if they want to know him to. The parents deserving protection from a mistake doesn't suddenly give you the right to take that opportunity away from the kid. Protections stop when they encroach on anothers rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:18 PM
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It's biologic nature for women to group up. And that's usually a good thing, you can achieve things better as a group. The problem is that men aren't doing that. There is no counter for women grouping up. You all need to unite too. And... MRA's are horrible at attempting to use women sympathy for their own good. You could actually get women as a group to fight for your causes. Other groups have managed that. But when I try to raise sympathy for a male cause, it's usually another male right organ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:16 PM
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This was a personal example, so please go find an example of me not giving a fuck about fathers rights in my history. If you are gonna attack me personally about sexism, you better have a few examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:06 PM
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No. Kid should have a choice. The moment you adopt out a kid, your ability to make choices for that kid should stop. And I belief that the parents should get shielded until 18 years old, but the moment the kid is 18, they should have a right to all their biological info, including family links and get to do what they want with that. You don't deserve privacy if that privacy requires someone else to make huge sacrifices for your privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:05 PM
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Not the person you replied, I'm not making a statement about whether or not I agree with media causing unhappiness but... Learning about a great injustice does make me unhappy even without me having any connection to it. The moment I have a connection (like simular gender, simular age, simular country...) that unhappy feeling isn't gone in 10 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:55 PM
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Adopted, adoption failed, got put back in the system at 11, aged out. There's a link in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:48 PM
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Changing legalities. EXCEPT most people agree with the legalities. And from that I can extrapolate that most people's motivations ARE about erasing a mistake and not about bodily autonomy rights or not being forced to raise a kid. And that's incredibly frustrating, because I do agree with the conclusion but hate the motivation. I'm currently really rage rage rage. Bloody fucking hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:47 PM
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The bio parents should not be shamed or forced into having a relationship with the kid who was legally severed years ago. Why not? We would say that the parent would deserve to be shamed if it was only one parent giving up the parental role. Why is it ok if 2 parents do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:43 PM
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They shouldn't be circumventing the parents wishes by getting involved with the rest of the family Why the fuck not. Those are OP's family. especially not the way that OP did it, that was super fucked up. OP would have been called a hero if instead of 2 parents, it was an unwanted father.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:41 PM
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Internet: One parent doesn't want the kid: 18 years of child support Two parents don't want the kid: kid isn't allowed to connect with bio-relatives because the bio-parents deserve privacy about their adoption. Me about the internet: filthy hypocrites
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:40 PM
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Actually, the bio-relatives are all including the kid and shaming the bio-parents, that's why the kid is getting hate. I linked the thread in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:38 PM
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Adoption should purely be for: "I don't want to raise the kid.", but currently it's a lot like: "I don't want the kid to excist.". You don't have to keep the kid for the relatives, but the moment the clock hit 18 years, you've gotta deal and let the kid have it's relatives if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:37 PM
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Yes and they would have called that kid a hero if it was only one parent that didn't want him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:31 PM
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I think it's written dubiously, at some point they say it's not allowed, and then they say that the link should be properly described. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/g9nhjo/aita_for_publicly_revealing_who_my_biological/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share In comments should be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:29 PM
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Would I be allowed to link it here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:26 PM
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But the parents currently have the rights and power to block the kid from reaching out to grandparents and uncles and the like and that's not fair. And that kid is getting roasted for calling out the parents and connecting with the relatives because the parents deserve privacy about their adoption. And we would not put up with that if it was only one parent that didn't want the kid. We would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:25 PM
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And I'm currently arguing that those that don't agree with opt-out suddenly don't have a problem when both parents want to give the kid up to the point of the kid having to make sacrifices to protect their privacy and that's complete hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:22 PM
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who can switch from Sub to dom Easier to find then a full dom, but still difficult. The majority of people are vanilla or subs. Could you be more specific. Like are we talking 50shades of switch or actual bdsm? Basically equals Communication communication communication. The one's uninteressted leave and the rest stays
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:21 PM
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In the other thread, the fostered kid started to reach out to family of the bio-parents (so also his bio-relatives) and the kid was blasted because the bio-parents deserve 'privacy' about the adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:18 PM
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Sounds more like ownership mentality. If both parents want to give up the property, then the property should listen. If one of the parents wants to keep the property, then the other parent should make that a possibility. It's just that only one parent has the ability to make sure that the property doesn't come into excistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:17 PM
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And other bio family?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:15 PM
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For some reason I read this post as you wanting to have a dom, not be a dom.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:14 PM
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The kid is currently being blasted on another sub because the parents deserve privacy. It's so fucking hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:11 PM
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No. There is currently a scenario on another sub where the kid got adopted, that failed so they got put in the system, then at 18 they found their bio-family and the parents didn't want anything to do with the kid. So he revealed his excistance on facebook. The kid is being blasted because the bio family deserves it's privacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:10 PM
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Doms are high in demand for both genders, it's not a gender expectation thing. Most people are vanilla and of the one's that aren't, most are subs. Frankly, if you want a good dom, be prepared to share. And how to find them: communication and fast. I personally prefer the Dan Savage 3 date rule, put it out on the table on the 3rd date and move on if she's not interested. It's a thing that either they are into and then they wouldn't mind the abrupt information or they are not and it wouldn't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:07 PM
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Omg...yes. Like...I always felt weird when RP would come up with George Clooney/Brad Pitt/Colin Farrell/... as the old hot guy, because he's totally not hot to me, but I kept going along with it because when I was growing up, George Clooney was the old hot guy so maybe it was just me that didn't think he was hot anymore. But for some reason I just never considered the possibility that it was just people their age calling them hot. That makes so much sense though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 12:58 PM
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Bull-fucking-shit You are acting like a western feminist. "So, I know that currently my gender has more legal rights and all, but there's still inequalities against my gender and we should focus on my gender FIRST!!! or y'all are sexists!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:11 AM
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If the only control that you have over your life is who you marry, then yeah people start marrying for not so good reasons. You can't seriously expect any different. We don't have camels in southeast Asia. I think you're thinking of the middle east Dubai
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:55 AM
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That's starting a different argument altogether. It's so off topic that you are just ranting. I don't understand why you would ask me about my beliefs if you could have just started this rant to begin with. That being said. and men are just finding a way to deal with that. You can't deal with it because what gives women power is solidarity. TRP is still not solidair. To make a great exaggeration, you hurt 1 women and all women close their legs. TRP is all tactics on how to be an Alpha, which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:41 AM
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I didn't say demand too much. I said that they think certain demands are small asks when they are big asks. If they still want the demand while aware that it's a big ask, ok. And a big ask that they think is a small ask is control over looks. I'm not talking about weight, things like control over clothes and the like. I think they massively underestimate the importance of that to women. I could argue that keeping that control would be more important then fidelity to women, especially in their yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:48 AM
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Woman. I mostly started this thread to have an argument outside of marriage, because I don't think that RP realises that some of their demands of a relationship that they think are small, are actually big demands and vice versa. Didn't turn out that way. All marriage, the entire thread. I'm usually the one arguing for happy/happy compromises instead of equal/equal on other subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:33 AM
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12 years in bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:18 AM
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Yet we constantly get some... So what does that say about the importance of looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 09:34 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 09:32 PM
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And 14 dollars for a baby isn't realistic either. Childcare is cheaper then a nanny and I linked you childcare costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:20 PM
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You increase intimacy and communication when stress is high and you don't plan on having stressors together. Life happens, but a lot of stressors are choices. I know someone that was building a house and having a wedding and then there was an accidental pregnancy and his dream job got offered to him...but at the other side of the country. It's one of those cheating events I predicted. He cheated, but it might aswell have been her. He should have passed on the job and they should have cancelled t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:18 PM
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Per hour per child...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:09 PM
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https://www.moneyunder30.com/childcare-costs Imagine the standard 2.3 kids. I am really not overestimating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:29 PM
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I would posit the crazy idea that majority of people in existence aren’t sacrificing anything to be in relationship. You haven't been in a lot of long term relationships have you? Even the best compatible people have something that's an issue. Like snoring, you are not a bad person if you snore but if your partner is a light sleeper then you can't sleep together
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:26 PM
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Goverment pension
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:02 PM
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And experimental freedom with looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:56 PM
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Dude...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:55 PM
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No, this is only within a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:50 PM
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Undesirable for me? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:49 PM
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Interesting on the 40 hours workweek point. How would you handle people like me that are salary and commission, plus have income from rental properties, investments, and companies they own? You can also give suggestions In the 1930's we created social security to take care of elderly people in the event their retirement get's wiped out. Do you know what people used before SS? Do you know what other countries that don't have these safety nets today use? I live in another country, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:48 PM
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My observations of cheating are not connected to hypergamy or beta. First there are stressors. The more stressors, the more likely one of the two partners will cheat. Very common stressors are money, newborn child, planning a marriage (money, time and fighting), buying a house, sickness, death, ... If you have two stressors in your life (or of someone you know), there's a very high chance of cheating. If there are two stressors and a lack of time (and partner support because of that), I can almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:44 PM
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Not seeing one of their parents isn't in the benefit of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:27 PM
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You would give up some freedoms The freedoms that make my life worthy of living but in return you would receive the legal protections that you enjoy today That I don't care about. Before the 1830's, a husband could basically kick you back to your parents with nothing and you wouldn't even have rights to see your children. ... Weren't you just arguing why this was good for me? What I don't really understand in this exercise is what kind of compromise do you think you can achieve? So far: Mommy ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:26 PM
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You gave a crumb and asked for the world in return. It was so unbalanced that there wasn't any way for me to retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:22 PM
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Not having to pay for a babysitter? He is, he's paying the entire cost of the woman's life. She is being paid. You underestimate the cost of child care. That's a full wage. He's not paying his wife a full wage. The woman benefits by not having to work and being able to spend all her time on the baby and the man benefits by...? Then let him be the SAHP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:20 PM
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I understand your point, but then I don't feel it's fair to give somebody something that I wouldn't get if the genders were reversed. If she can't afford to pay me half of a what a child actually costs (which isn't much, really, and is below what normal child support is) then she should consider herself lucky to be with a man so much above her means, and be grateful with whatever benefits she gets from me. But it's not about her, it's about the kid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:17 PM
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He already got his bit when he didn't have to pay half of child care because his SAHP was doing that and because he didn't have to do half of the full housework. He can also be the SAHP if that's prefereble. Or no SAHP and both work and come home and do 50/50 household chores and childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:10 PM
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Somewhere else with someone else, there's a discussion about protecting the man from extra hours worked by removing those completely from a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:04 PM
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Women only look at the alphas and say "men are just fuckboys". Never actually met a fuckboy or heard about a woman complaining about a fuckboy. Well...since I'm not a teen anymore. It's because I'm not that I get cheated on. I don't even blame women, I've moved past that. Disagreed immensely. One of my pet pieves is that we aren't allowed to discuss cheating beyond "cheater bad". There's a lot of things that can cause cheating, behavior that can cause cheating, yet we can't discuss it because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:02 PM
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P.S.: Did you notice my qualificator word "healthy"? Yes. Doesn't change anything. Voluntarily? Why would you manifest such behavior? That's how the relationships pre-revolution were.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:56 PM
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Yeah, count me out. Not in a million years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:49 PM
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That everything above a 40hour week is purely for the ex-SO. Untouchable by divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:48 PM
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Nope. Then child support should be paid to uphold reasonable living standards for the child for the 4 years it would take to get re-educated Same situation. I just said that it's both your fault that she can't have a decent job anymore. So it's fair if them getting re-educated is a joint expense. But your part is by the hightened child support for 4 years. Her part is full tuition by herself. Should end up 50/50 with her share to pay for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:46 PM
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Why is it the man's responsibility to pay for her re-education if it's a mutual decision? Because he shouldn't pay for her re-education. He pays part of accomodation. She's paying her re-education. The intent is roughly 50/50. The timing is linked to her re-education. The mother decides Didn't you just say mutual decicion? Because if mother decides you just changed the example. I said 2 years because as others have mentioned on this thread that this seems to be a reasonable amount of time to rai…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:43 PM
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Ok. So moms now get 100% custody because children was completely the moms decicion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:39 PM
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He didn't get your sacrifice unless you weren't planning on having kids and did so specifically for him Ok, then it's her kid and he doesn't need custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:37 PM
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that's what healthy relationships pre-sexual revolutions were all about Disagreed. Pre-sexual revolution I personally would have to give up everything and get nothing I value in return
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:36 PM
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I could argue the same thing about marriage and losing half your shit in a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:35 PM
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what would the "mommy makeover" entail? The mommy make-over isn't a term I made up. That's an actual procedure. It should entail what it currently entails. what is or should bearing a child worth? The procedure costs 10K-20K i don't understand your law argument. if we know the law is unfair or even unjust, we improve it to be more just. that's the law. if you're disagreeing that it is actually unjust, that is arguable, but your stance sounds like a position to justify injustice, which should nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:17 PM
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Women who have kids live less long (about a year average, so the actual opposite of what you said) and their quality of life is reduced by the complications. Show me someone that's willing to live for 2 years longer if it means being unable to hold in your piss. not even your health? You can't bring back the health. Are you so vain that you want compensation for your attractiveness But yes. And even if I didn't...why does he just get my sacrifice without having to give something?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:11 PM
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That was the situation we were discussing, although 2 years wasn't part of the example.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:08 PM
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However, I put her in my will, so that if I die she is taken care of. I personally have problems with doing that, because I have the assets and because of the laws of my country, I can't give those assets to my partner without them having to give up half to taxes. So personally, not a fan because of that. But that's the law that makes it a problem, not the actual idea. If we split, she has to trust I will be fair. Depends on whether or not she has to trust while also investing herself (helping w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:07 PM
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Did the other partner greatly benefit from the person staying in shape? On a level that's comparable to a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:58 PM
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Because we were working with an example of a SAHP whose work-skills became obsolete because they were a SAHP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:57 PM
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I would argue that economical status of a man is worth more to him. There needs to be a compensation for taking care of the child and raising it and there should be a compensation for providing for the family. I don't know how measure this, but this absolutely one of the main point why the current system is not working. Providing gets punished not rewarded. I have a possible solution. It's not exactly compensation though. But what if everything above a standard workweek (so 40hours) is left alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:17 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:13 PM
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I'd argue that it's easier to get sexual loyalty from a woman then from a man. And I'm not saying that in a 'male bad' type a way. But if you are seeing poly couples, it's usually multiple females with few males. Entire societies were like that and everything went fine, kids made it complicated though... So there is something that you can give a female and in return she's willing to give up that you have to be sexually faithfull. I don't see many men doing that...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:12 PM
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Well...would you quibble a bit less if I said the 4 years are divided up in you child support, but she gets to pay for school all by herself. So it's a 50/50 of sorts, but divided in a way that's easier to uphold.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:07 PM
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That he gets half the benefit for no physical sacrifice and I get half the benefit for all the physical sacrifice. Not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:01 PM
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No tattoos No heavy make-up No sexy clothes No piercings No male friends Long hair No social media No clubbing ... (Only one-sided because I'm on the other side and that's easier for me to remember)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:01 PM
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Because I would continue to live with a body that took a bunch of damage, which I did for the benefit of the family and that family falls apart but I still have a banged up body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:59 PM
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I did not say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:56 PM
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First off, I like gender neutral language when talking about these. Secondly, that highly depends on what happened during the marriage. Let's say that one party was a SAHP by the choice of both partners and they had a reasonable job before that happened and afterwards they for some reason can't go back to that job. Then child support should be paid to uphold reasonable living standards for the child for the 4 years it would take to get re-educated. But child support is complex... because what if…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:55 PM
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Highly controversial though. Removes alimony (excluding SAHP), not child support though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:48 PM
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You are aware that the first month maternal leave isn't really optional? That's recovery time for the vast majority of women. And biologically, you can't fairly divide the roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:47 PM
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It's between 10K and 20K, but it would be one and done price tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:43 PM
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I've heard women say birth was the most painful feeling in their life, i've heard some say it was the most beautiful thing in their life and some even both at the same time. In your opiniom, how much is it worth? Is this the main sacrafice that you are talking about or is there other? It is the sacrifice I was talking about but differently. I was talking about peeing your pants a little, saggy boobs, stretch marks, floppy stomach, ... Permanent marks of "I've given birth". I don't know what SAHP…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:41 PM
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Mommy make-over fund for the physical consequences upon divorce. Dad pays for the fund and that's his sacrifice. Mom pays for it with physical sacrifice that can't get fixed. If the mommy make-over happened during marriage, then it's not part of the divorce because dad already paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:36 PM
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Name an alternative solution for a gendered relationship problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:33 PM
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Ok. And what if I asked this question and there's no mention of marriage whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:32 PM
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Want to talk about what you would need in order to get married? Or anything else that you would really like to have in a relationship but it doesn't seem like the general female population is ok with giving (see edit extra examples for inspiration)?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:31 PM
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I would like pre-conceived notions to stay out of it because of this. You are not coming up with a new idea, you are arguing why the old idea is bad. We are trying to get a working system here, which means talking about things that we think would work, instead of (again) arguing why things don't work. I would like some protection for my sacrifices, you think the excisting rewards are overkill. Ok: say what you would find acceptable and then I can respond with why I think that's enough or not eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:27 PM
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Now you have a pre-conceived notion of what I want based on what's law. We can't have an open discussion if we base ourselves on what already excists. Instead of me talking about what I want or need, I now have to counter what you said. I would like new fresh ideas, since the old one's obviously aren't working and everyone is frustrated. So why don't you come up with a solution and I'll respond why that solution is or isn't agreeable to me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:23 PM
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I don't think that you'll find a lot of people that would disagree, I'd argue that the problem is that full egalitarian usually isn't possible. If you mix kids in (for instance), you can't have a full egalitarian marriage. Biology says so. But also...let's say partnerA makes 8K/month and partnerB makes 2K a month. PartnerA wants to live in a 2K appartement. PartnerB doesn't want to pay more on rent then 0,5K. What's the egalitarian solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:13 PM
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I'd say that red pillers (I assume that's your side) are equally miserable about the lack of people who fit into that role. Also...you can compromise up to a point that everyone is happy as long as you don't restrict yourself with pre-conceived thoughts. For instance, the cleaning argument. Partner A does 70% of the work, partner B brings in 70% of the cash. A lot of people stare themselves death on a 50/50 divide in chores, but there are so many other solutions... Hiring a cleaning lady, paying…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:08 PM
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Anything that your partner doesn't need you to give up, but that does come up on this sub as a demand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:56 PM
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How can we make sure that no person and the least the child would lose in the long run given a worst case scenario of divorce? If purely talking about the wife's body sacrifice, I'd argue that a sum of money for a "Mommy make-over" should do that. Dad takes up full money costs. Mom gets to take up the physical cost of what can't be fixed. Sacrifice in the workforce is hard to measure, can apply to both genders and I would agree to not count it unless the partner can come up with proof of sacrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:55 PM
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I used marriage as an example, but there are plenty of possible discussions here. Like...one party thinks that some limitations in physical looks is ok (if you date me, no tattoos) and the other thinks that's repressive (bodily autonomy!). One party would like a low n-count, the other party (again) thinks that's repressive. Under which circumstances would you give up fucking around in your youth? Etc etc. Sky is the limit. Edit: or a reverse marriage. "I absolutely do not want to get married, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:31 PM
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While I agree with your post, you don't seem to have understood my retort. If we're having a kid, I'll be making personal sacrifices that will be permanent for the rest of my life. The family unit improves bigger then what I personally lose, so I'm ok with making that sacrifice for the family unit. If a divorce happens, I don't think it's fair that I have to keep on living with these sacrifices, while the other party continues to benefit from my sacrifices. We're not a family unit anymore. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:25 PM
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Without the current laws, I wouldn't feel safe with the sacrifices that I would need to make to have a baby. I personally don't want a baby, so I'm ok with that. But the moment I do want a baby, I want that protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:09 PM
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I became purple pill waaay before reddit even excisted when I met my SO and he questioned some beliefs that I held and it turned out that there was no reason for me to hold those beliefs. And as someone that values proof and questioning, that really shook.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:15 PM
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That's suddenly off topic. No people that got offended in my face yet... More men that suddenly talk about their girlfriend and cheating because they think I'll approve.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 01:28 PM
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I'm in a succesfull open relationship of 12 years and have slept outside of that relationship several times. The things that influenced my approach to relationships the most was looking at online behavior. In real life, everything is fine, never had an issue, everyone is decent and nice and respectfull. It's people online being honest that makes me go... What if they're just saying that to screw with me. But the biggest flip was biology. A few confrontations with the potential that I can get pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 12:40 PM
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I do consider that. But with women these things are on a balance. 'how dangerous is this for me' compared to 'how beneficial is it for me if it works out'. The chance of a woman-hater increases, so it's too much danger. Like...the danger scale is constantly pretty heavy and the benefits are constantly light, it doesn't take much to flip a potential relationship/hook-up into 'too much risk'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:47 AM
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Co-habitation is hard. You might think that our checklist is too harsh, but you are only considering a short term relationship and hooking up. That's the easy bit, almost everyone can apply. As soon as you live 24/7 with someone for over 3 years, that's what makes the checklist long. Because then you actually need to fit together or you'll end up hating each other. Like friends, you can have loads of friends, but they aren't all good roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:35 AM
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I imply that lack of sex can cause hate of women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 10:17 AM
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Me too. I'm a big liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:43 PM
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Close, but a European liberal isn't as anti-goverment. Goverment influence is allowed and even prefered to preserve individual freedom. So to give an example. A libertarian wants to reduce taxes as much as possible, prefering voluntary taxes. A European liberal is ok with more taxes being used on (for instance)...assuring that everyone that wants too can go vote by making the bus free on election day. So that the individual doesn't have to choose between money or voting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:40 PM
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Some americans use the word liberal when they mean progressive. For instance the anti-gun debate is considered liberal, when that's the opposite of a liberal belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:29 PM
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He pays entirely for your date. Would you have sex with him? No. One of the things I'll do is insist on paying half. If he paid for the entire date, then he had to really push for it. Happened several times. I'm not fucking sleeping with someone that doesn't understand "no". I read in a comments section awhile back that a good time, good company, an emotional rush, and the enjoyment of sex itself wasnt worth having sex with a guy. Enjoyment of sex isn't something that we know beforehand, so that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:26 PM
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I've only had 1 partner so I'll do this for my sex partners. Liberal beliefs (European defenition, not American).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:12 PM
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I probably wouldn't be able to get over the suspicion of whether or not he's super religious or has a history of hating women. And where that comes from? This sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:01 PM
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Yes. Licking pussy is gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:32 PM
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First off, not a lot blame men. This is mostly a fight of women between women on womens sources. Most of it doesn't even get noticed by men. Some women blame men and they seek out the men to complain and that's why it looks like it's a big part, but it's a tiny minority. Usually people with a selfish interest. Just start doing what the french government did and advocate for women with unhealthy BMIs to be barred from fashion advertisements Also a big part of the body positivity movement. And att…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:16 PM
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that has no barring on what the average man finds attractive The average man wasnt lusting after women who looked like prebuscent boys. I don't see why you add this. Hasn't everyone here already noticed that what a majority women want to achieve doesn't have anything to do with what men find attractive? Fashion dictates the trends. Not male attraction. It was probably started by a few resentful gay men and older women within the industry who hated the youthful curvy and healthy models who were i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:33 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:13 PM
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Minor improvement doesn't mean that you can fix the shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:12 PM
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But you can improve your overall score more with muscles then she can. And this is why you don't do a suffering olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:53 PM
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That's just finding an excuse to say that your situation is still worse. I agree that it is, but like seriously... If you start a misery competition you've lost either way. Like the person with a small butt (was talking about the reverse btw) can also start talking about how you can go to the gym and gain muscles and improve your body in that way. Both are bad, the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:32 PM
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But I have a penis Statistically people stay within their races to such an extend that it's reasonably to assume so. It's actually fucking ridiculous how high that % is considering how many people claim to not care. I don't know it off the top of my head but it's something like +80% of people have never fucked someone of a different race...even if they are a minority. It's strange. women of all races cum from PIV Statistically 75% of women don't come from PIV. I'm having a theory that of the 25%…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:35 PM
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When the body positivity movement started, the ideal they were fighting was was 'heroine chic'. That was everywhere at that moment, just like curves is everywhere right now. Currently the body positivity movement is also against curves. Go check out InstagramReality sub. The only people in society who are pushing the size zero ideal are high fashion magazines and companies, filled with gay men and bitter old women. I suggest that you go through sub to see evidence of the contrary. Women have utu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:30 PM
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Different person, different answer: The uturus can be a problem. If the uturus is low in the body, that's good for a skinny build. If the uturus is higher in the body, then you're always going to have a bit of a belly. On top of that, the uturus also likes fat. Fat is good for having babies. So the uturus likes to surround itself with fat. Some uturuses like more fat then other and then you have an apple shaped body.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:23 PM
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I'd say that in the scenario that OP described, it is. Fat is not equal to height. Overweight is not equal to height. You can lose weight. But OP also dislikes variations like having a bigger butt or thighs... He responded to a video of someone with a relatively tiny waist and big butt, to say that that's what he ment. Women can't control having a big butt, just like men can't control height.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:18 PM
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I have a theory that black women are more likely to come from penetration sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:12 PM
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Most men don't want to be going to elementary school plays when they are hitting 45 they want to be sat on a beach sipping beer. and don't have the same clock ticking that women do. So men at 45 don't want to go to school plays, but men at 55 DO want to go to school plays? And yet the rate of mental illness, birth defects and mental development issues such as add ADHD etc are rising directly in line with the increase in age that women are giving birth. There actually is an increase in birth defe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:01 PM
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Get him to go to a hooker. And I'm not saying that as a "fuck him", that's seriously something that I'm advicing for his benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:49 PM
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Wait, are you the same Guy as yesterday? Whoops
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:47 PM
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Can I ask your race?!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:18 PM
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Because the enjoyment from sex comes from intimacy and you don't have that with a random hook-up? Regardless what was disgusting to me was the idea that she makes every random hook up eat her out. Nasty. You stick your dick in a random hook up? Nasty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:15 PM
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Same situation with a woman. Except the random might assault her, instead of giving an STD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:21 PM
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And here we can see why only a minority of women have ONS. Ruining it for the rest of us buddy. You have sex with a woman once and she'll refuse to have an ONS again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:19 PM
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Can I ask your race?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:12 PM
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Other person right now. But why should she stick around if she's not going to enjoy the sticking around part? Isn't it freaking disgusting that you are expecting a woman to have sex, purely for the benefit of the man, without her getting anything out of it? At least if she's a whore, she would get money. Yet, she's supposed to do whore-ish acts (sex without pleasure) for no money?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:10 PM
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In her defense, it's kinda hard to be in control (or responsible) of your orgasm, if the tool used to make you orgasm is attached to someone else. I can say a lot of things, but in the end...he either understands or doesn't, listens or doesn't and there's not much else I can do. I can't MAKE him do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:06 PM
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(street begging in a third world country is not a good look) That's the actual example I used below. So freaking horrible. My niece is one of the 'goes to another country and begs there', at least it's Australia and not a third world country.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:48 AM
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Let's be honest here... Men losing motivation is a "You can't fire me!!! I quit!!!"-scenario. Men want sex, yes. Men want easy sex, yes. Men won't commit if they can get the sex without the commitment... disagreed but for the argument let's say it's yes. Even then, it's still the women refusing to commit or date by large, not the men. Why? Even in the best type of relationship, a woman feels like their youth is lost by being in that relationship. Look at this fucking sub. If you want to date the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:39 AM
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Hipsters is the common trope for rich people. The backtracker trope is poor kids going around begging money from the local poor community. Outside of 'influencers', I haven't even ever heard of rich kids backpack travelling. Those folks get hotels. Edit: I think that I understand the problem now. To make a gross oversimplification: hipsters are rich people pretending to be backpackers because they think it's enlightened, but without the actual backpacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 10:26 AM
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How can you say "they usually are", as if it's fact, based on your personal experiences when my personal experiences are the direct opposite of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 10:17 AM
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The person was obviously talking about not having sex for 2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 09:01 AM
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Changing prescription doesn't help much when the depo shot has already been injected. It's +3months of 'fun' side-effects. My last side-effect stopped at 18 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:57 AM
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Then it's not worth it for you. You are not going to get an emotional connection and if for some reason you do, it's usually only 1 of the 2 people involved and a big mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:50 AM
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I seriously haven't yet met the type that she's describing with money, daddy's or otherwise. I'd negatively stereotype them as moochers though. They join you when you go out, because "you don't need to spend money to have fun, the company is the fun!", but then they rely on other people to buy them drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:48 AM
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What do you need in order to have fun during a sexual encounter?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:45 AM
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Unpopular opinion time: You should expect anyone, regardless of gender or commitment, to be able to cheat. I'm not saying that as an pro-poly argument, you should expect it so that you can prevent cheating (also NOT arguing for constant monitoring). Most people are capable of cheating, period. Even the one's that hate cheating. As in, there are several times that I've been able to predict that a couple would break up due to cheating, before the cheating happened. And I'm not inside their homes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 08:42 AM
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People know of autism because of movies like rainman and the like. Female autistic people aren't going to look like rainman, so their parents aren't going to get prodded as much with "hey, get her checked out".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:23 PM
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So you refuse to answer and try another diversion tactic. Ok, I'm gonna leave it at that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:55 PM
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It doesn't actually change what I said by much. A feminist can also go "interpretating whore as a negative is your interpretation. It's an occupation like any other. If that bothers you, then maybe you should...". It's a diversion tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:28 PM
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That's focussing on a detail instead of the message. If my interpretation of negative bothers you, then ignore that bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:14 PM
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You are only looking at it from how you work, without empathy for people who don't work like you. It's as if I would call swimming a sport that can only be done for excercise because for me it's only excercise. Nobody can call me wrong for saying it's excercise, it IS excercise, but for others it's so much more. I tried to do a reverse argument with the women/whore thing, but I can't because I don't actually belief that and I just can't put my heart into parrotting feminists doing the same thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:58 PM
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I don't know the English word, but you are doing the following for women: It's sunny => you can't go outside because you'll burn your skin It's a holiday, free from work! => The stores aren't open You are distorting things into a negative and I'm sure it's true for you...but that doesn't make it true for the rest of us. And you are doing the opposite for men. You are seeing their every move in the best light.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:14 PM
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It's true in the same way that saying "men just want a mother/whore" is true, by picking and choosing what to discuss and trying to see the other gender in a negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:53 PM
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Except their experiences directly contradict evidence and studies. Also to Bring my own experiences in, their sound weird and unreal. Like a porno fanfic. And by accidental design, I have the ability to hear the personal experiences from a large group of women from different backgrounds and ages. Their experiences DO overlap with studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:47 PM
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I'm actually starting to wonder whether or not black women have a higher chance of being able to come from penetrative sex, because usually when a guy starts talking very convincingly about how he is able to get women to have a one night stand with him and they orgasm!!! and I ask... he's black and the women he's fucking are black. You are actually the first white guy I've encountered who beliefs that he can get the women to hook up with him due to personal experience. Usually with white guys it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 01:06 PM
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Would you mind if I ask you your race and the usual race of your partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:56 PM
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You either get the women that cum from penetration or the one's that haven't learned that they aren't gonna get things from a one night stand. I did say that the majority of women don't do that anymore...as in they did, but now they know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:21 PM
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Sorry, I edited. I do think that your response still applies though, so I'll respond. Even if that person is still a stranger, you still need some point of devision. Ok, if stranger is a wrong word for it...what is the correct way to seperate these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:22 AM
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Yes, but... let's be honest here. Most people here talk about casual sex with strangers or one time affairs. For discussion about casual sex with women, it should be divided up because women are responsive to one, but absolutely not to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:15 AM
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No, being able to have casual sex and get off on a regular basis, kind off requires you to be able to get off solely from penetrative sex. That's a minority of women. And before you start talking about oral during casual sex, if you've had sex with multiple women, I'm sure you will have noticed that they all prefer different things. It's near impossible to learn the different things well enough during a single casual sex encounter, in order to get them off and not have numbed/hurt the clit in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:59 AM
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The problem isn't the guy, it's the vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:47 AM
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I'm not them, you don't need to tell me that's ok. I'm just saying that they excist. Sure, there is a small percentage of (likekly religious) women who don't do any type of casual sex no matter how turned on they may be... outliears are not worth mentioning. I said people that would get offended. Yes, a small %, likely religious. But women that don't do casual sex...big %. They almost all would have had casual sex before, but they aren't ever doing that again regardless of circumstances. Being h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:37 AM
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No... there's a bunch of women that will get upset at being asked for casual sex, the end. You just don't hear the really attracted guy complaining about it, because he's not second guessing himself after being rejected. He just shrugs it off and moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:02 AM
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Your experience on Reddit subs likely suggests to you that women generally have many more dealbreakers than men No, my experiences are that men act life unmovable walls. "This is how I want it to be, so it shall." They don't need to express dealbreakers, because they'll take what they want even if it makes their partner miserable. They don't act like partners, they don't co-operate for goals, they just like someone in their bed and they call that a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 09:06 AM
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Feminisms version of equality: so both men and women should be able to be the breadwinner or the stay-at-home parent. Your version: So if women would start putting out more with men that are less likely to give them orgasms, that would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:02 AM
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Or womens looks are better to account for the damage of childbirth and after X amount of kids, ya done
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:01 AM
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And before you claim that women make better marriage partners... Wasn't going to. I would suggest going to the divorce subs to see why it is. From what I've noticed there, there seems to be a gender specific pattern for asking for a divorce. Men: Are unhappy and thinking about divorce. They say to their wives that they want a divorce because X reason. Men and wife proceed to try and fix X reason or they jointly decide to divorce. Women: Are unhappy and thinking about divorce. They say to their h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:10 PM
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It kind of is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:51 PM
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Lmao, the secret sexual society. How can I ignore that. So before facebook was a thing, most other countries had something simular to facebook. Then facebook got popular and they couldn't compete. In my country, this social network site is still active with a niche of people. We've all become a club with people all over the country, from different ages, gender, ethnicity and etc. It's just a bunch of random people that never de-activated their profile and for some reason, we all became friends. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:47 PM
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Dude, while on some level true, your message doesn't truly fit because you are giving men the benefit of the doubt and you do the opposite to women. Men’s approach: This woman is cool as hell. I like her spunky personality and she’s sexy AF, let’s make things work and see where this goes. The men’s approach allows for a great deal of flexibility in the life path of the couple because it is not predicated in the expectation of a specific utility set that the woman will provide whereas the women’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:43 PM
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I was mostly talking about things like... They both want to have children. They both want to get married. They both love to travel. They both hate social events. They are both clean people. They are both people that are into the Ikea motto of "a house is to live in". They share hobbies. They share politics. Yadda yadda yadda. Not utility, compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:55 PM
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(Did you misunderstand? My exes had the GOOD attitude). Why would i seek people with BAD ONES? Yes, I misunderstood
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:51 PM
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I really really want to say it in a sensitive way, but I'm a crude bitch: look for your women in better areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:32 PM
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No, you get a deleted account from trolling. then to actually engage in constructive conversation. I get it. Some comments just leave the opportunity wide open, hard to resist for someone that's consistently unfunny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:07 PM
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Simple explenation: Because they feel like you are calling them a slut (obviously) and they think that's unfair (obviously), because they aren't sluts. More complex explenation: Because most of us rank up n-count by being in multiple relationships (fyi, not me, I went the slutty way and that's why I don't get upset by n-count) and it seems like we are the only one's trying to judge compatibility before the relationship starts. We are the one's judging whether our lifestyles work together and ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:06 PM
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Then you won’t look back on those men poorly if you have a good attitude; you won’t see it as “unlucky” that is just life. Most people I know, don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 08:04 PM
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Early thirties, central-Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:50 PM
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So, not a judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:47 PM
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I don't remove shit ever. I get downvoted and modded, but I don't remove shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:45 PM
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So I have a question, are you sure it's about most women and not about your personnal experience ? I personally hate all clitoral stimulation. It's based on research and statistics and my very large group of contacts that share sexual info (don't ask). Frankly, I generally overexaggerate this point because in most internet arguments, as soon as you mix nuance in, people tend to lose the message. Offcourse some women behave differently (I even made a footnote about that in my initial comment whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:44 PM
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Most women I know don't fuck on any dates. They want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:32 PM
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Why do you assume that these relationships break up because the guy is garbage and they've chosen badly? You start off in high school, you grow out of each other, you move to different colleges, you move somewhere else because of your job, your lifestyles stop being compatible, one of the two grows up to want kids and the other doesn't, one of the two wants a ring and the other realises that they don't, ... How about different variations: 1 kid or 3? Then there's all the struggles of living toge…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:27 PM
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First off, you just described most women Second off, men lie or hide undesirable personality traits. There's proof of that in this comment section. I say that most women I know wouldn't want to date a guy that cares about n-count, reply is: "Well you don't ask offc". I know people (because... strangely enough both a man and a woman) IRL that lied about them not wanting kids because their partner doesn't want them and they really wanted to date them. There's no good way to test for personality, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:13 PM
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And what does that have to do with legacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:10 PM
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They care, but they don't attach a judgement of your personality on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:04 PM
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I shouldn't have tried to be funny and chosen my words more carefully
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:04 PM
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If you have been only in relationships, then your N count will be pretty low anyways. You can rack up huge N count through relationships, but you would have to be very old. I know people who only have had sex in relationships, whose n-count is higher then me, and I'm a slut. Bullshit. They are constantly shitting on it here Most mens attitude is the opposite. Explain If you have had casual sex, making waiting some men for sex to attain relationship is bad marketing. I hardly doubt men are eager …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:02 PM
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Women choose men for how useful they perceive the men will be to themselves I didn't say that That initial objectification creates all the problems which you detail. Even if I did, I don't see the connection
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:58 PM
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Yeah, but I haven't ever seen or hear about it concerning bald or short. Fat = lazy Muscular = dumb brawny Guy What's the judgement for being bald? Cartoon villain?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:56 PM
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You are a mod, you said "no ranting", so I assume that I did something wrong and need to adjust that behavior. I just don't see where I've ranted, so I assumed that either my flair was wrong or I'm behaving badly in the comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:51 PM
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but they judge the man negatively since it must have put a lot more effort than the woman to rack up suck a high N-count ...no one does that. Seriously, no one does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:47 PM
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Is that about my flair or my behavior in the comment section?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:46 PM
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You need to read the post again, you seriously have the wrong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:46 PM
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/judgement Nobody is judging short people either. No one is going "HaHa should have eaten your broccoli and grown taller". People don't think of being bald or being short as a choice. You are not being judged, you aren't being considered because of these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:44 PM
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I think that you are in the wrong comment section because that's not replying to the actual content of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:40 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:39 PM
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Except the other party doesn't play along. Every women I know (except me), has at one point ended up in a relationship where the guy had lied or deceived by witholding information in the beginning of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:04 PM
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Have you actually met someone that isn't a slut that lied?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:03 PM
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I don't know any women, even the one's that have an n-count of 2 (I'm early 30's, that's low), that wouldn't judge the fuck out of a guy who asks for n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:00 PM
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Less relationships in total = lower n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:58 PM
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Or people end up in better and longer relationships (if not permanent one's) more quickly and inceldom lessens because women aren't dating the same group of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:53 PM
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I'm sure guys don't like being judged for being bald, but there it is. Who the fuck is judging people for being bald? "Oh, you are a dumb-ass, if you didn't want to be called a dumb-ass, shouldn't have chosen to become bald!" ????
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 05:49 PM
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True and true, that's why it would be interesting to have perfectly symmetrical cases of gender swap You also need to account for when you post. I work in 3 shifts, big difference in comments depending on what time I'm on. Although that difference has been less since covid. When the asian area is online: family orientated time. HOW DARE you judge your parents. When Europe is on: SOCIALISM!!! When West or East coast America is online: FEMINISM When central America is online: RELIGION There's even…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:49 PM
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Most of the people crying about 'reverse the genders', don't account for actual differences between genders. For example : This post is about a guy whose GF won't give him a blowjob (or won't let him finish in her mouth, the post is unclear) and almost everybody just tell him to deal with it and stop wanting it. While at the same time another posts about a girl whose BF won't go down on her get responses telling her to dump the dude. This for example. A blowjob isn't the same to a man as what or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:03 PM
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The saddest part is that a life of sexual variety without a family and legacy at the end of it is a wasted life. Oh f you. What's your legacy? From which royal kingdom have you come? Or do you mean the legacy of being an average guy, with an average job, having an average life. Let's call protection agencies so that they can assure that you reproduce so that we'll never lose such a special specimen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 03:50 PM
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Like what? That I'm attracted to effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:53 PM
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Which is why I said 5 people of each gender, because exceptions excist. But frankly she's getting the male approach there. She's being scored up for potential if she lost weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:51 PM
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Make-up is an effort to improve your looks. Discounting make-up is like discounting clothes and hair. "So your shoulders look broad...but that's probably because you are wearing a suit. Gotta take a point away from that." You don't bloody know if it's the suit. You are just guessing. And most of the times, you don't have any clue what you are talking about. You see red lipstick and go "AHA make-up treachery!!!", while letting the person that has a full face of foundation fly through. Red lipstic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:42 PM
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First off, that wasn't serious. I don't agree with your or my text of flipping the scenario. Both are wrong. Secondly, men are the one's overestimating themselves and other men. Go to r/rateme. Pick a couple (5 or so) woman 6's and male 6's. They are NOT looksmates. For women the score is while mentally removing all the grooming they've done (Oh you have nice lips and all, but that's probably lipstick so gotta remove a point for that because it's not real) and for men the scoring is while mental…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:24 PM
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It's really depressing. Men chase really good looking women in their 20's, give them commitment for free trying to leverage it for sex, get rejected, then expect a women to spend decades trying to bring a man the moon in order to seduce him for commitment that's only 1/10th as enthusiastic as what she knows he was giving to other girls for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 09:43 AM
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Ok. In that case: I'm not interested in debating double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:48 AM
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Ever heard of: I fit in my suit, my suit fits in my bag, so I must fit in my bag (false)? Debating hypocritical double standards always involve morals, but debating morals doesn't always involve hypocritical double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:44 AM
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I'm personally not interested in a debate about double standards. I was interessted and was debating you because of the imposing morals part. It’s a double standard regardless of whether or not it’s “ok.” The ok part was about morality, not double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:39 AM
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Hairy women is about gender roles sure, that’s doesn’t make it not a double standard though. No, but I kinda was more focussed on you wondering why others impose their morals view on other people, instead of the double standards part of your post. Because to me, your example of not judging a woman wanting a rich man, but judging a man for caring about n-count is more about morality then double standards. One is considered morally ok (disagreed btw, gold diggers get judged) and the other consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:33 AM
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because of health reasons Which is the exact same thing as caring because 'hypocrisy'. 'health' is the bullshit made up reason in order to maintain a moral ground, but actually most people are upset because they aren't attractive. 'hypocrisy' is the made up moral position, while actually it's about them being less attractive. And a lot of people have a bias about attraction. I think it’s slightly different in this particular case because a man desiring a less hairy woman than himself is “hypocri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:21 AM
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If you don't care, then why did you zone in on 1 of my multiple examples in order to defend the bias, instead of debating the theory behind my example? I'd think that you'll know why others care so much about hypocrisy, when you figure out why you care so much about obesity. And I've already repeated that obesitas was named as an example unconnected from a relationship. People are biased against obese people, regardless of relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:09 AM
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Health could be hypocritical, sure I didn't say that it was. My example was about a cleaning bias. That doesn’t negate the fact that we do know what people prefer as an ideal. We have the studies right? Why do we need the ideal? If we are discussing attraction and maintaining yourself in order to still be attractive, then it's the tipping point where you go from attractive to unattractive that matters. And we're already being illogical by mixing up health concerns and attraction. Those two aren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 11:49 PM
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Health seems different though, no? They are all different and all the same. You can't make the same argument for every bias, you can't claim "hypocrisy" for cleaning, so they are all different. But they are all the same in that you are judging people for not having the same priorities in life as you. And every single person with a bias is going to think that their bias is just a little bit more valid. Ultimately people are attracted to healthy people, on average. That's what your feelings say. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 11:26 PM
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N-count: 12, if we are counting everything sexual. For the women - has a man dumped you when you revealed it? No Do you often hide your N count? No, the issue is that I don't memorize the number. In order to answer you, I had to go down memory lane. Usually I just give a number that feels close. I know it's +10 but below 20 and I randomly pick something between those 2. has it personally affected your life in any way wether good or bad. No effect. But gotta say that my current partner is n-count…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:36 PM
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There's types now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:20 PM
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or we have average functioning vagina's. This is from my text.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:20 PM
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The "hypocrisy" argument is because we all realise that we don't actually get to moral police other people, so we need a reason why this is the exception why we DO get to moral police other people. It's not at all different then the "health" argument with obesitas (why do you care about someone else ruining their health?) or the "dirty" argument with cleaning (why do you care if someone else lives in a pigsty?). And the arguments change because over time people will have read enough counter-argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:18 PM
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The smarter women (the ones you described) quickly recognize the cognitive dissonance associated I'd argue that the smarter one's are the one's that don't even get involved. Also a big group. Many of them are still getting used as cum depositories/free prostitutes. What's many. In the latter case where they double down, it’s usually a group of friends where one of them is a career slut, and she already screwed up her RMV and ability to bond, so she influences the other girls in the group to beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:59 PM
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Let's be honest here, everyone is doing that about everything. It's not limited to people's preferences for their partners. People also judge the fuck out of how your relationship works. From obvious stuff like the expectation of monogamy and that there's something wrong with you if you don't do monogamy. I don't agree with it, but I can understand how that came to be. But if you go to relationship subs or AITA, there's considered a right way to do anything, a right way to devide chores, a right…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:50 PM
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And that's why, when we get older, we all (because it's not just women) stop focussing so much on the superficial stuff and we start focussing on character. Because pretty loses it's shine and it doesn't help you living together with someone. And that's why women going for 'beta males' when they get older isn't them settling. It's them becoming smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:18 PM
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I find gay men more attractive then straight men. Gay men make an effort, effort pushes their score up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:09 PM
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Aka Pre-tinder and “you go grrrl, yaas queen get that dick!” mentality Which takes about 3 dates before you realise it's a fucking lie. Date1: Oh...I got nothing from this. Better next time and I'll be a big more vocal about my needs. Date2: So...being vocal didn't help. Oh well third times the charm right. Date3: No, no, no. This is shit. I'm not fucking doing this again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 07:05 PM
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The gay male community, who don't have piv sex, or toys to replace piv sex, whose most likely replacement is anal... Of that gay male community, only 35% have anal sex. Women don't even have a prostate up their bum. Some is a small small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:09 PM
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Those people are a minority in those studies. Most of the women in that study will find out that child care costs as much or more then her wages and they realise that they can't afford for both partners to work and to come home tired and then do housekeeping and taking of the baby...for no monetary benefit. Being a SAHP in that situation is better for the family, but at great sacrifice of the SAHP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 10:31 PM
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In that scenario, we have a guy that has qualities on the surface that are very attractive. For instance, he has looks or he has money or he has charm. So initially, he's hot stuff and "all the women" want to date him. So he can date the 20y olds AND the older women. We're not saying that he can't attract an older women, they just wouldn't put up with his behavior in a relationship. The stuff that's not on the surface. So he can't keep the older women, can attract, can't keep. And that is what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 08:22 PM
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A casual FWB is great, no expectations and when I'm done she can go. Doesn't sound like a FriendWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:41 AM
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Not the person you replied too, but yeah that has happened. Although I personally still tolerate the men that try but fail (invest bad sex, get good sex in return later), in some cases it became noticable that they weren't trying so I got up and left.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:40 PM
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but she doesn't care about this dimension of my happiness or worry about me leaving enough to want to keep me happy. Like I could take being loved or just being respected, ya know? With me sex averse felt like I was getting raped every time I had sex against my desire. And I know that it wasn't rape, but I personally really can't stand having to hold back and it felt really fucking gross to want to get out and that you were keeping yourself in place for your SO and it took so much time until it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:30 PM
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The problem is that in the beginning it's all "i am happy to please my hubby" Then it turns into "i must please my hubby" Because the unwanted sex is a stronger memory then most of the wanted sex. So it begins adding up and then it starts to lower the amount of sex that the lower-libido partner does want because there are all these bad memories in place of the good memories that are supposed to get them horny. So it's a downwards spirel where you keep having more maintenance sex because you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:08 PM
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How much % of the sex life you had before was piv and what % was giving oral from you to her? Also you still shouldn't discount the menopause, I had a hormonal lack of libido (but easily fixable) and I would describe feeling sex-averse because of my condition, the sicker I got. And I wasn't aware of it being a change. Felt like I was normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:53 PM
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Good sex is amazing. A-ma-Z-ing. The problem is that you need a guy to be good at sex or good at listening and execution in order to have good sex. For a women, it's easy to have bad sex. It's hard to have good sex. And that's why you are probably getting a different vision by being on this sub. Because for instance, I'm someone that brings up that 'good sex isn't just penetration with a random dude' on here a lot (and I stand by that), but that's within the context of a lot RP here saying that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:47 PM
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Dude, I'm a medium according to you and I'm a fucking slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:37 PM
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I was stupid and messed up, and it is not ok. I caused a lot of harm to myself and other people. I think both men and women ought to be chaste, for their own sake. I didn't cause harm to myself or other people. I know some who have actively benefited and changed their life around. Your experiences don't count for everyone. I regret choosing the path I did, I really do. I'm not against christians. I don't belief in god, but I'm not against any religion. Humans are a race that needs socializing, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:53 PM
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When I said I did not value "traditional women" when I was younger was because I was a good looking guy who wanted to sleep around instead of committing to a one women. Which was a pointless and a dumb thing to do, but I have my issues. May I point out that you are still putting women on a pedestal by giving them the magical strength to withold from sex, while you yourself had your issues? I simply meant that when I was younger there were several young, pretty girls who were interested in me, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:32 PM
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Can you elaborate? Traditional doesn't only come with the behavior that you like. For instance, a lot of men here don't want to pay for the first date. If you want a traditional woman, that's part of the traditional behavior. Most of the equality would be scrapped and as much as this sub complains about equality going wrong in terms of what they have lost, they still wouldn't want to be the married dad that works 60 hours per week so that the wife can be a SAHM with the kids... forever, while yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:48 AM
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but the biggest reason is that promiscuous women make statistically for worse long-time partners. You keep saying this on this sub, but non-promiscuous women highly value a relationship that most of you on this sub don't want. Like there are roughly 2 types of women, some overlap offcourse but roughly. Traditional or modern women. You hate the promiscuity of modern women, but you hate dating a traditional women even more. Only a typical traditional male wants to date a typical traditional women …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:09 AM
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I wasn't exactly talking about the proper path here, most of you cry about divorce rape from bad women, while ignoring what those bad women could do with your kids if they weren't married to you. And why would a 'bad women' play nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:55 PM
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Also, you can make a legally binding parenting plan before kids that will give you the kind of custody you want. No, you can not. You can do that and have it be legally binding if you are married. As long as you are unmarried, mother has a hell-of-a-lot more rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:13 PM
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You have kids together and a home together... What fucking assets to protect? Dividing up the home and child support will happen either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:06 PM
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Really, past dating experiences and expectations are talked about on the 1st date? That is not something I would have guessed at all. Thanks for the heads up, that at least helps me find a way to talk about it and I won't be blindsided by it. Ah well, que sera sera, you're either compatible or you're not. Yeah, it's like asking about the wheather. "So on what apps are you?", "Have you been getting matches a lot?". It's not really for the answers, it's more like...Wtf am I going to talk about wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:59 AM
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Do you think it is worth it for me to bring up the 3 date rule, say on the 2nd or 3rd date? Or should I wait either for her to bring it up, or say wait the 5th date at the latest? I think that's the right idea, just want to make sure. I usually make it a 1st date topic, because for some reason dating experiences and expectations get talked about on the first date ("so, frequent user of the app?" and the like) and then it fits in organically. Bringing something up for the sake of bringing it up, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 10:11 AM
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That's fair. How do you bring up the topic of sex, and at what point? If you are talking to someone that appears very open about sex, then you can bring it up soon. If the women appears more 'classical' so to say, let her Bring it up first. Some of them would get really offended if you bring it up at the wrong time and you have no idea whether they are part of the offended group or not. Once brought up, you can bring up the topic yourself. Pretty sure bringing it up on the first date is a sure-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:12 AM
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The only do there is, is to get the girl to talk about sex. There's too many possible preferences. I for instance dislike oral and there are a lot of women out there that only get off from oral. If I give you the pointers that apply to me, then you only know how to please me, not a random other women. So it's all about trying to figure out what she likes the quickest. And I advice verbal communication. Oh and... it's not personal. I know some girls that shut up because they think that it will hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:54 PM
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I didn't get questions yet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 06:51 PM
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Could I ask for some advice beyond "foreplay, lube, and listen to what she says"? Sure, but I'm currently a little bit high
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 06:46 PM
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Why would you assume that I don't do live demonstrations? I'd like the fun to start asap aswell. It's possible that it's more painfull for me, but from me talking to friends...I don't think so. There were some friends that were like "pfff sex is only for the man", because they truly couldn't conceive sex being enjoyable and I'd say that even if sex is more painfull to me, then me being so vocal should counteract that a bit, because the vast majority of women that I've talked to don't use words t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 08:19 AM
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Yes, and I'm one of the most vocal people I know about this. The issue is going from theory to practical. People need practice to usually do something good, this means that they'll do something wrong. Most areas of the vagina are super sensitive, so doing something wrong is either uncomfterable or actually painfull. So a first time attempt with someone very good at instructions will still go like: ow - oww - ow ow - owwww - aaaaah - AAH - auwtch abort
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 08:04 AM
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They are told to embrace whatever desires they have because it’s all wonderful. Hypergamy as you describe it on this sub, is cheating. Everyone hates cheaters, to a ridiculous extend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:18 AM
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Then you don't have a scientific study, you have a normal study and it's not worth the paper it's written on. The study is about sex IN relationships and how it correlates to chores. No more no less. ... that's not allowed in a scientific study
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:55 AM
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These numbers aren't being excluded because they don't and can't exist. Reality excluded them. Numbers that don't excist still have to be included. There are ways, it's usually a category on it's own. In this particular study, the category would probably be "people that broke up". If that category is too big, then you haven't proven a correlation of sex and chores, but a correlation between break-up and chores. We're only this far down the rabbit hole because you kept asking me why 'break-ups' a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:58 PM
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They are useless. If the study doesn't have to be scientific, then I can proof anything. I can just choose what I want to proof and decide what to include and exclude so that I get the results that I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:34 PM
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No... that's science. If you don't have the results then your study is not relevant. You can't just cut out an entire group of people because that makes your study easier. Then you are performing data manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:28 PM
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You can't measure it, but that doesn't make what you can't measure irrelevant. The entire study is irrelevant because you don't have all the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:34 PM
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Yes it is, because those are people could have potentially had more sex if the chores were evenly devided.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:32 PM
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How would you know how much sex the people that leave would be having with their partner if they didn't break up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:02 PM
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Because breaking up means 0 sex, so that's the least amount of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:46 PM
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I'm saying that not helping with the chores ends up in a break-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:08 PM
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that your feminist I identify as an anti-feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:57 PM
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Seeing as she used to be a feminist I’d say she would have noticed I was the one doing those. She should have. It's weird that she didn't properly research the topic she complained about. Maybe it’s a cultural thing? Here you only vacuum if you have rugs. Otherwise you dust, sweep and mop. Well...I include that with vaccuuming. Like, vaccuuming to me is keeping the floors clean and you can choose however you want to do that. Although just dusting would not have your floors clean. Here it's typic…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:36 PM
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'Typical female complaint' means that according to the feminist argument, women are doing this. It's part of the 'we do more and you should do half'. It’s not about how often it happens. It is about how when it needs to be done I’m the one doing it, getting my hands dirty and carrying weight. About once a month. Keep in mind that the things she complained about (ironing and vacuuming) take a total of 1 hour a week ironing (most of our clothes were dry cleaned) and maybe 2 hour ironing So she doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:32 AM
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So I gave her “my list” which included car maintenance, keeping on top of house-related payments, taxes and neighbors association requirements, moving things in/out of storage, heavylifting around the house, making sure gas for the heating tank was delivered in time and animal care (hygiene, food and veterinary appointments). Car maintenance - fair House-related payments - typical female complaint Taxes - typical female complaint Neighbourhood association requirements - fair Moving things - fair…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:53 AM
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You seriously can't be complaining about divorce rape while suggesting things like these. If you got divorce raped and you did this, it's a well-deserved reward to her for all of this behavior in the marriage. She deserved what she got, she worked hard for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:41 AM
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Like what? Gimme the chore list too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:37 AM
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In this scenario's they are because the pissed off is because resentment. It's not the sexy pissed off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:35 AM
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I'd say that even if those studies are true (and cough bullshit cough cough), then I would like to know if they only used excisting couples and do they account for the couples that have broken up over this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:34 AM
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The only time when I wanted to throw shit at my SO was about arguments with the household chores. Do you think that I wanna fuck him them? Those arguments almost broke us up, twice. And we are a perfect couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:28 AM
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Just like many of the things the feminists were saying were true. It's the mass conspiracy theories or 'all men are like that' or 'proof that you are different' or the saying that it's male genetics and they can't fight it... that's an issue. And red pillers are pretty much doing the same thing. The older I get, the more I realise that it's really true that history keeps repeating itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:07 AM
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I thought I was in the safe haven debate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:54 AM
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...did I think that I was in the wrong thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:38 AM
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Who the hell cares? Usually everyone that doesn't get a return, whether that's sex, business or anything else. People like ROI. You've been complaining about ROI in this debate, repeatedly, in the form of divorce-rape. It's extremely easy to make a woman cum Everythime someone says that, I gotta wonder how that happened. Like, did every women lie to you? It's just very statistically improbable that you always end up with women that are the exception. Most women can't cum have huge vaginas Not ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:11 AM
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Your entire manipulation of the conversation into saying a woman feels 'used' by not enjoying sex rests on the idea that a man needs to satisfy a woman and a woman just needs to show up and be satisfied. You don't need to make up your own interpretation. I explicitly said why they would feel used. No return on investment. I'm having a conversation within the confines of the discussion presented Without replying to what I'm actually saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:55 AM
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How the hell would you know? Women NEVER enjoy sex? Sex exists only for men? I said most women (1) and I didn't say that women never enjoy sex, I said that they don't typically enjoy the first time they have sex with someone new (2). Why I know? I know the same way that I know that most penisses are able to get erect. That's just how the vagina works for the majority of us. We have a lot of information about anatomy that's freely available online. I personally have an interesst in sex, reproduct…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:25 AM
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I've got 18 active years under my belt. So come on, tell me how you know what couples talk about in their own home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:58 AM
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So is your only point that it shouldn't be called paper abortion? Is that it? Yup. It's opt-out and it's not comparible to an abortion. Because the responsibility for sexual activity is probably why it's called that. Yeah and it's dumb. Even if it actually was comparible to abortion, it would be dumb. Politics are as much about images as they are about your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:44 AM
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But you are arguing that you know whether or not they bring stuff up within their home. So... what's the outside pointer of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:41 AM
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Because you have indoor camera's of their houses?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:19 AM
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I base my experience on the divorce subs and the women are typically on their asking for advice ("what can I try??? I've done this and that" for months before they tell their SO that they want a divorce. Like, go look yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:55 AM
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Narrow? That's how vagina's work for the majority of people having a vagina. It sucks, but that's a vagina. and that for some reason the man must have always enjoyed the sex because vaginas have intrinsic value No... I assume that because he has a penis. Penis and vagina's are different. And my argument wasn't based on a lack of enjoyment, but an excistance of pain/discomfort. Do you think that men have pain frequently when they engage in sex for the first time with a new person? I won't be glad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:53 AM
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Yes. I feel pity a lot, because most people I know seem to go for relationships that are good. Going for perfect is seen as being unreasonable. I have perfect and it's worth the risk of being alone. And then there are the people that don't even have good, they have ok. Yikes. Edit: Also people that have or want kids. A lot of pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 11:25 PM
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Red pill is about treating women like they are unified group that works under the same set of rules, regardless of the differences in norms from their location, the way they were raised or their personality. AWALT. Red pill is one step away from acting like there is an underground supervising group that decides all of these rules. Y'all are acting like the 2010 feminists...while complaining about feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:57 PM
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Then again OP posed the question oddly to begin with. She just gender reversed a question. It sounds weird because it's a question that's based on differences between the genders. If you post the original male version of this question, you'll get a lot of quick fitting answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:38 PM
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No. He has kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:31 PM
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The woman has sex and enjoys it but later finds the man isn't interested. No time wasted. The woman didn't truly enjoy the sex. It takes time to learn how that vagina works, before the sex becomes enjoyable. So most of us, when we are having sex, we are investing a crappy time in order to have a good time afterwards. If then turns out that you never had an intention of giving us a good time. You still haven't explained it or provided any meaningful insight into how women assigning monitary value…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:27 PM
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If there's a maximum, then there should also be a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:22 PM
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I expect my partner to care about issues that have or are directly effecting me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:21 PM
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I don't know what you mean. I was calling you a professional victim
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 10:09 PM
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Why not just give men the ability to get out of the consequences of sexual activity like women do? Already being agreeing with you on that since the beginning. Why are you so intent on pushing me into the position of someone on the opposite side?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:28 PM
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How does it feel having that big old target on your back?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:26 PM
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and she told me she had been thinking about dumping him for 5 months. If you visit the divorce subs, that's not rare. From what I've noticed there, men and woman treat divorce/breaking up differently. The men announce that they want a divorce because X reasons and then give the woman a chance to change X and stop the divorce. The women think about divorce for a X reasons and they keep saying "X is a problem, I'm not happy. X needs to be fixed", they typically ask a lot for relationship councelli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:53 PM
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Because abortion is about not being pregnant, opt-out would be beneficial for both genders. Women would also like to walk away from an unwanted kid. There are a lot less of those women because most of the time they pick abortion, but not every women is capable of that or they ran out of time or other factors and they can also use opt-out. Being able to opt-out isn't as much of a gendered issue as you are thinking it is. Abortion got allowed earlier because labor is a terrible thing to force peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:42 PM
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Women also enjoy sex though And men usually enjoy the company they get while they were unaware that they were being used for money Did that make the being used better?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:37 PM
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I'm trying to keep the arguments seperated because there's a lot of people responding to me with all kinds of different thoughts and I would like you to go to the abortion argument if you want to discuss abortion. This portion was about safe havens and adoption.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:27 PM
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You are telling me that women are letting men put their penises inside these woman's vagina's without knowing who that person is? As soon as 2 people have put their penis in her vagina in the same 4ish week period... we don't know who the father is. Like, with a 4 week difference you can still be pretty sure of who the dad is, the absolute max difference imo, but our technology for determining the age of the fetus is measuring it. The older the fetus is, the more it becomes estimating. It you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:47 PM
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Not the disagreement we are discussing here. Here, the people that don't like the situation can come up with an alternative solution to women being able to adopt out without the fathers approval by pretending they don't know the father. Good luck, find a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:12 PM
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That I don't agree with. So why is it wrong for taxes to go to something you don't agree with, but it's ok for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:10 PM
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If one parent decides to not have the child the decision is ultimately the womens. That's said with a complete lack of perspective from the womens side. Abortion has a ton of restrictions that can cut you out from being able to get one. In a lot of countries the limitation is 12 weeks...so 2 missed periods. Which might seem like a lot for someone that has never had periods, but we get them monthly, we skip one all the time and 2 missed periods is not enough time for all of us to realise that we …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:09 PM
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Can I use my army taxes for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:30 PM
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That's called opt-out. I'm the one in favor of opt-out (in Europe).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:29 PM
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Because it just makes life less enjoyable for the rest of us because some jerk off wants to abandon his children? You should NOT put your whole reproductive rights in the hands of the pill. The condomn and the pill both don't score so great IRL, because they are highly susceptible to human error. If you want to only have one birth control error, choose the one's that don't require a human do to everything right... because we don't. Human err. And I doubt that women by large are asking for condom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:51 PM
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People, generally speaking, are decent enough to not just up, kidnap and leave. Which is why I specified that bitch that you always use in an example of divorce rape. But...no marriage because women are bad? But you don't need protection because women are decent? Rong. But, hey, why not. If you feel like it, I can write that you're right, or even a rite, if you're going to insist you go religiously acty on me. Which part of this highly pro-abortion and progressive rights debate makes you think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:29 PM
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If there are no penalties for men creating unwanted children then women need to be more cautious because the likelihood of a man sticking around after irresponsibly creating a child is slim. I don't know how this would look like but I imagine women would be less likely to accept just one birth control method. And why is that bad? Vast majority of cases where a man gets a woman pregnant during something casual or before they would be willing to stick together is lower class men. Then go fix that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:26 PM
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No, not regulated because they full custody. Why would you want to regulate that? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:21 PM
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We aren't doing that. We are arguing about abortion and at the same time you want to change the parameters. So it would be like arguing about the benefits of supporting agriculture with taxes while working in a system where women can vote (while they currently can't) And no... You can't seriously debate that. You don't have anything about women voting behavior yes. Every basis that you'll use is assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:16 PM
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Because marriage has a lot of rewards and protection for you guys. That bitch that wants to take the kids after a divorce? Without marriage she had the ability to say that you aren't the dad and while courts are deciding that, she can up and leave the country and legally there isn't a lot you can do about that. All of male reproductive rights are tied up in marriage, without marriage you have 0 rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:12 PM
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Because male reproductive rights are important. We all pay for things like roads and tree maintenance on the sides of those roads, I think that equality is a bit more important then a road.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:08 PM
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Mommy still has birth control and abortion and yes if those don't apply then eventually she can opt-out after suffering pregnancy and labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:06 PM
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and decrease women's willingness to rely on just the pill, they'll expect you to wear a condom until you're married or something What? The only people this helps is lower class deadbeats, fuck that. It wouldn't help only low deadbeats and low deadbeats being able to abuse this law seems like an acceptable cost to give all men reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:04 PM
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But now your argument is that this is seen as acceptable... It is not. My argument is that if we can go beyond the restrictions of current society, then the debate becomes near impossible to hold because the parameters can keep shifting, you can't use examples because they don't excist, you are basically arguing within a fantasy world where everything is possible and you would need to agree on a couple dozen items before you can even start the debate on the topic you are currently interessted in…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:55 AM
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It's seriously impossible to be the custodial parent and not give any monetary support unless you are also abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:41 AM
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the result of her making choices over her own body is that the result is solely on her. There is no justification for forcing a man to pay for the results of her choice over what to do with her body. Ok, but in both directions then. It was her choice to keep the pregnancy, the result is solely on her, so a man can only opt-in and become a parent with her approval. Can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:23 AM
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Which is why I'm pro opt-out in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:19 AM
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Society should be making sure that no child with only one parent gets damaged because of that (missed opportunities included), regardless of the reason why there is only one child. Which is why I keep specifying that I only want opt-out in Europe. Because society takes up the responsibilities of the unwanted father. If the mom keeps the child she is also being “punished” for 18 years! A choice is not a punishment. Mommy has equal opportunity to opt-out. And having to take care of your own child …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:18 AM
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Women that are the custodial parent are not obligated to give a portion of their earnings to their kids. How are they custodial parents without giving a portion to their kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:13 AM
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Yes, I would support a basic wage Me too But that doesn't address that some men have more dangerous jobs than other men. Usually by choice, somethimes even after hard work to get that job. And I'd very much like it if no one had to do a dangerous job because they felt like they had no other option, but welcome to capitalism. It's considered acceptable and as such, I argue within the rules of the society that we live in. Else I would barely be able to argue anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:09 AM
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All this companies like 23 and me are already hoarding the data. I hate it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:05 AM
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You think women never have abortions to avoid taking care of a kid? How laughable People abuse laws all the time, that doesn't mean that we should punish the people that don't abuse laws by taking their rights away. And I'd argue that not wanting a kid means that you don't want to be pregnant. Pregnancy isn't fun, why would you wanna go through that if you don't get a price (wanted child) at the end? that doesn't mean that it doesn't have other consequences that had nothing to do with the origin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:04 AM
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would you consider it pleasant to go to a job every weekday for 18 years, with possibility of not picking your job, or having a say in the safety standards for your job? When a lot of said jobs can be unpleasant and unsatisfactory So you are also in favor of a basic wage? Or is having to work only an issue when comparing it pregnancy and labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:00 AM
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But we as a society accept punishment in the form of monetary penalties (even if they indirectly cause death), but we don't accept corporal punishment. We even have mandatory fees for the innocent (taxes) and that's considered ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:47 AM
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Pregnancy does not always harm women. There's a single women that has given birth that has called the process pleasant. Since when it inflicting pain, suddenly not harmfull? Please allow me to torture you without permanent markings if that's not causing harm. And there's also not a single women that after birth has gotten their pre-birth body back. They can get close with luck or genetics or surgery, but no one has 0 effects. That's harm if it's unwanted. the courts have not used corporal punish…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:45 AM
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Oh I agree. But weren't you a hardline society first kind of person? Oh hey you. Dna-database would be bad for society. It has a ripple effect with multiple outcomes, most of which are bad. Like...we end up with gattaca (extreme but possible). No one wins. Being an asshole is an easy condition to meet and not only we can't make that harder but we shouldn't. I mean, how could we justify anything that attempts what can only be achieved through mind control or brainwashing? Well, I was thinking mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:38 AM
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Thank you. It's not hard to meet those conditions...but we just aren't able to make the conditions harder. Currently in an argument with someone else about that. We would need a national DNA-Database for that and...Fuck No?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:22 AM
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First off, no possibly harming women, defenitly harming women! And my argument is that the law considers monetary penalties ok and corporal punishment not ok. So you'll first have to argue why the law is wrong and how all monetary penalties should be removed from the books.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:19 AM
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Only when they are willing to be assholes and remove the rights that a father rightfully has AND the father is unaware of the pregnancy. Both conditions have to be met. And technically it's not legal. You just can't proof that they knowingly cut the father out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:00 AM
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And what should we do with the people that don't know the father? Also the constitution where you can't convict someone without them having commited a crime and not knowing who the dad is... isn't a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:51 AM
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Whether or not you agree, we as a society ban corporal punishment and allow monetary penalties. It's even considered acceptable to lose your money when you haven't done shit wrong (taxes).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:49 AM
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How is it in Europe? Second time that opt-out got voted out. But it has been up for vote twice! But that's not what I ment. In most countries, allowing opt-out would mean damning the unwanted children. I really would like everyone to have more reproductive options, but not at serious costs to the kid. Kid didn't do anything wrong. The idea that you can disconnect the idea of children from having children is strange. Well, I'm actually at risk of having an unwanted pregnancy and then having to pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:46 AM
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Yeah. And opt-out would also be appliable to both genders. The women that aren't mentally capable of having an abortion (I'd argue that that's almost everyone that found out that they were pregnant within the abortion limit, had the possibility of aborting, but still chose adoption) should also be able to opt-out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:41 AM
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I'm actually pro opt-out for that reason (in Europe). Even if abortion wasn't allowed, sex shouldn't come with an 18 year punishment. But it's not comparable to abortion. Men not getting opt-out, doesn't suddenly give them a 4% chance of death (and that's 11% in America).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:32 AM
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Granted. Women that don't know the father now lie and innocent men get dragged into this. And women that don't want to name the father, also lie. Or women arrange that someone else pretends to be the daddy and then they go forward with adoption. About the same results as the current situation, more victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:23 AM
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1.) Why are pregnancy and labour not part of the responsibilities attempted to be removed? They're certainly no benefit Like even in a wanted pregnancy we don't call pregnancy and labor a responsibility? Taking responsibility implies that you need to actively do something. Pregnancy and labor are passive, it's going to happen regardless of you not accepting it (in the case of no abortion). 2.) Are you arguing that abortion only occurs because of an unwillingness to go through pregnancy? I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:19 AM
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Yes. Because the punishment is pregnancy and labor and permanent marks, maybe even health issues from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:43 AM
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No, it's not red flag. I personally would assume that that guy had a lot of stable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:42 AM
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are statutes in the United States that decriminalize the leaving of unharmed infants with statutorily designated private persons so that the child becomes a ward of the state." This doesn't disprove what I said. They always try to find the person that abandonned the kid. Men have no such right. Ok. Create a better situation where men do get that right. Warning: I'm gonna be difficult with counters...like: how do you find out who the dad is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:40 AM
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I don't know. I assume that it would be simular to whether or not dick length/girth is inheritable, but I don't know that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:37 AM
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Because the alternatives are either inhumane for the child, undoable or an infringement on basic rights. Mommy doesn't want the baby and she doesn't know who the dad is (or refuses to say), so he can't assume custody. Ok. How the fuck are you going to fix that? You can't make the mommy speak. What if they truly don't know? If you force it with punishment, then they are going to lie and someone completely innocent is suddenly baby daddy. Offcourse if we had a national dna-database... But that's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:32 AM
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The difference is that abortion isn't about removing your responsibilies from the child you've conceived. Abortion is about not having to go through pregnancy and labor if you don't want to. Not ending up with a kid is an additional consequence, but not the reason why we allow abortion. It's not that we want to protect women from the consequences of sex, it's that we don't do corporal punishment anymore. And btw, paper abortion is called opt-out and I'm immensely in favor of it in Europe, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:19 AM
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No it doesn't. I like my downstairs neighbour. He's nice and silent. We ain't friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:12 AM
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Except.... that's still anatomy? Just a tiny portion of the clit is outside the body and with a % of women, the inner parts of the clit can be felt from the vagina walls. So the women that orgasm from piv...in all likelyhood still orgasm through their clitoral stimulation from the inside. Then there's the G-spot that not all women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:10 AM
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Then what are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:00 AM
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Like doesn't equal friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:00 AM
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Well in that case...why do you think that it's simular to a sex addiction if women would like an orgasm from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:59 AM
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You don't have to have female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:51 AM
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Would you be able go orgasm from a hand occasionally slapping your penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:21 AM
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Clitoral stimulation is usually needed for an orgasm because the clit has the most nerve endings of the vagina. Probably because the clit is what would have grown into a penis if we were male (and that line that you have on your balls is what would have split into a vagina). Extremely simplified: we get the stimulation from oral that you feel from sex and sex for us is what oral would feel like to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:20 AM
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They might want that, but then they aren't your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:13 AM
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You choose to interact with them in a way that excludes them from being friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:05 AM
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I share my feelings and my struggles with my bros, never my chicks So you don't have female friends, so you can't have fwb's
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:43 AM
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Fwb is friends with benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:39 AM
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I'm targeting your words, not what you are actually doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:38 AM
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Talk about everything Ask, don't assume Use tools to communicate better (there are lists) Joke around until you are both completely comfterable Use the damn traffic lights
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:36 AM
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How the fuck are you having friends when you don't do emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:22 AM
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But then it's a booty call or an ONS, not a fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:21 AM
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Frankly, my negative views come from online. Have you seen what some of those red pillers say??? It's not limited to this sub either. Some people online say absolutely cruel unreasonable things in the name of their own gender or in judgement of the other gender. And then IRL someone comes close to what someone said online...like AWALT hypergamy rethoric online and a "haha women right"-joke and then I'm wondering whether or not they also belief in AWALT hypergamy. Whether they go online and hate …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:19 AM
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I wanna know
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:11 AM
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It highly depends on what was said. There absolutely are things that someone can say and then it's over. An example of what would make me call it quits emediatly would be saying something out of which I can subtract that you are against abortion. Instant we are done.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:10 AM
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⁠7. I can leave myself open with discretion to do some fwb hookup ⁠No one’s entitled to my emotions attention or validation (I do not emotional tampon for people end of story). How are you going to get a friend with benefits if you don't want to be friends with women? That kinda reminds me of the AITA story where a guy had a fwb situation and they would watch a movie and then fuck, but the friend had her period one day and said "sorry, can only do movies today, but I bought taco's" (or something…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 12:02 AM
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I don't care about the number of previous partners, just like I don't care about the number of previous relationships. I care about what behavior happened during previous relationships, just like I care about what happened during previous sex encounters. Two one night stand or ten one night stands, doesn't matter. The person with ten, probably had more opportunity to have one night stands. The person with two, probably wishes that they could have had ten. The actual count is irrelevant, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:38 PM
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Nothing would happen, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:25 PM
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Well we are both hardline. And I absolutely adore stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 05:11 PM
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Well that is a heavy topic for a quick question. It's the one thing that me and my SO disagree about. Everyone of our political debate disagreement can get reduced to that. He's a hardliner for individuality first. I'm a hardliner for society first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:52 PM
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I still believe that what kept you two together isn't luck Oh yeah, we almost broke up 3 times. Relationships are hard work. Eventually every couple is going to come across a disagreement where both parties vehemently feel like they are right and that giving up means that you are being wronged. With us it was housekeeping, twice. And I had gotten sick for 6 years (unaware of being sick, quick fix when the doctors finally found what was wrong) but it had mental effects and I completely lost my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:29 PM
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Yes. And then you still are not going to be having an orgasm every single time because vaginal orgasms require either the perfect balance of horny and hormones or A LOT of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:13 PM
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Doesn't matter if he's a virgin of not. The vagina is the problem. Let's say clitoral stimulation: some women like circular motions, other up and down, others only one direction, ... Some like deep pushing, other like it softer, others want featherlight, ... And if you do it wrongly, it hurts. When you have sex for the first time with someone, they are going to do a lot of things that feel uncomfterable or hurt. You can't get an orgasm like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:05 PM
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Well it sounds like both of you are lucky to have each other. And I don't believe that much in luck so I give you both the credit of your current situation. I can't not belief in luck with how I met my SO. I went to 4chan and was feeling alone, so I happened to join one of those share your skype threads, the only time I've done that. I met Neko that way and became a friend. Neko eventually mentioned having a friend from my country and arranged for a joint skype...except that friend wasn't online…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:00 PM
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I'm not going to have an orgasm then. The dude doesn't have the skills yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:52 PM
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or fuck You don't get orgasms from strangers when you have a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:43 PM
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Your communication skills are on point. If this translates to verbal communication as well then your SO is lucky to have you just based on that alone. My SO is the reason for those skills. I'm autistic and I come from a home that's (trying to say it nicely) intelligence impaired. So when we started dating, I still sucked at communication. To the point of somethimes using sounds of animals to communicate with. On the other hand, 100% honest because I don't have the skill to lie. He's the reason w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:40 PM
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That comes with a relationship and you don't need to be able to fuck all these strangers in order to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:29 PM
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Red flag. Leave those assholes. Nothing good can come from them. Obviously. I just don't understand the logic. This is good. Someone that tries is someone that eventually gets there. No? Also even if that's true, that's good for a relationship, not an ONS. I'm not having ONS to work as a training dolll, I would like an orgasm. then I guess casual sex is not that important to you and that is perfectly fine. Yup. It's not worth it to me. Here's the thing though (totally different point, I'm not ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:23 PM
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Wtf are you going to do with all that sex that you can't enjoy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:05 PM
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Get a man you trust. Use him as a detector. Men are good at judging other men. But they are not happy about you fucking their friend circle. Pre-selection. If other women found him good, then it is likely that there is a reason why. I usually don't know whether or not other women found him good. You ask the guy you are vetting how comfortable he is with pointers because you found it really important and hot when a man can pay attention and actually learn how to get you going and how those are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:04 PM
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I disagree. I think it is possible to find those people and recognize them. Good, then you can help me out and tell me how to find them. That would still put you in a better position than the average man but you are correct The average man can date, it's one night stands that they can't get. I think you can meet more men that are willing to take the pointers thant the ammount of women willing to have sex with him that the average man can find. I don't doubt the excistance of those men, I doubt m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:33 PM
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So you did overcome the obstacle because you used your options to find the best case scenario. I'd call that luck. There is no "good at sex"/"takes criticism" test. So there is a solution. You just have to be patient and actually help your partner to get better at sex. Which is good for a relationship...not one night stands. That doesn't matter. You have options. So you can find plenty of men that will take the pointers. In my experience, not plenty. Which I gave an explenation for earlier. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 02:07 PM
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I fail to see how this is relevant. You accepted this situation. You had and have the chance not to. So it must be worth it or you wouldn't be with your SO. ?????? This seems to be a reply as if I'm complaining about the open relationship and I'm not? Else I don't get it. So he is not an average man in any sense of the word. Because an average man dooes not get to stick his penis into anyone because he does not have options. The average man is not attractive to women. He's not average as in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 01:43 PM
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No, because my SO has more sex then I do. We're pretty simular, especially sexually so I think that that's an ok comparisson to make (if you disagreed, I'm up for arguing about that). We both want the same amount of sex and fucking around but he's the only one getting that because he has a penis and can stick it into anyone and I have to vet potential mates. Extremely simplified way of putting it, but not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 01:28 PM
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Most of the benefit that women get for being desired by men they get without having sex with them. I was agreeing with you, with that comment. It is still a good deal that I would absolutely take. Women have options, they can actually get a guy that fits your decription of the best case scenario. Ehhhh... I have such a guy, open relationship and from what I've seen from how others respond to him, those guys are rare. I certainly can't just find another like him when I'm trying to find a fwb. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 01:08 PM
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Well, it is a good deal if I don't have to have sex, because isn't good in this scenario means pain. It goes away quickly, but in the moment it's seriously fucking unpleasent. But you have to remember that in this deal, in order to have good sex, best case scenario you have to have 3 bad sex encounters with someone that's willing to learn and is a quick study. You can't make the vagina act like a dick when you do have an itch that needs scratching. Which btw, also means that the very first time …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 12:41 PM
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I thought this was a comment about how men aren't being criticized here as a group, it's more "you red pillers want X" and women here get criticized as a group "all women want X". And it wasn't your intention to create such a post, but it did end up being like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 12:34 PM
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Jealous of: my ability to get sex whenever and wherever I want it. Does this make sense: no, because this ability comes with a vagina and because of that, me having sex with whomever whenever would HURT. I need to have a steady partner and teach them how my vagina works in order to get pleasure out of sex. So it's a useless ability. It's like one of those online questions "Would you want to fly? Downside: landing would mean dropping to your death." "Do you want access to an unlimited amount of s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 12:16 PM
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Because I'm trying to say that also the Alpha Will get dead bedroomed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 04:58 AM
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Also a possible reason btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 07:18 PM
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Because when you are in such a situation where one partners wants a high amount of sex and the other can't provide, there are more things happening because of that, it has a rippling effect with unexpected effects. What exactly happens depends on the couple, but there will be more events/feelings influencing the behavior. I'm gonna sketch one possible scenario for explenation: the women feels guilty about witholding sex, so starts to avoid thinking or talking or doing sex because then she feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:35 PM
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I personally got sick and that killed my libido and since we weren't aware that I was being sick, we kept trying to fix it differently and that obviously didn't work. That's more common then you probably expect. Libido is delicate like that. Being tired can kill it, hormone fluctuations can kill it, birth control vcan kill it, a long dark winter can kill it, ... And it's not limited to women. More so... Life happens and it's my personal opinion (based on observations, not data) that men's libido…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:57 PM
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You should have seen the situation while we were still arguing. I did all of the petty stuff like "Ok, if you think that you are doing equal amounts then let's just each only clean up our own shit and we'll see who is right.". But having to come in late to work a couple of times because he first needed to wash and iron his shirts sure fixed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:24 PM
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Think about it, I'm sure you have an example in your own life. You do something nice for your SO (or someone else) and then they go ahead and take credit for it. And up until they started taking it for granted, it was ok that you gave without getting in return, but now you don't want to do that anymore. Now you first want to get something nice before you do something nice. Well it's like that, I do more housework because he seriously can't handle doing more (the ADD) and I can and in return I ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:13 PM
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Yup. Also he acknowledges that I do more, is appreciative of it and it's considered a temporary situation until we can invest more in house keeping. The appreciaton does A LOT in making the situation ok. He used to argue that he did equal amounts (nah he didn't) and then would do 1 chore more and would chase me to catch up. Made me wanna drive a stick through his heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:58 PM
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No. Did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:52 PM
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Yup, also partner has undiagnosed ADD so I have to repeat everything 10times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:50 PM
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So I work less and I don't have to do as much work at home?!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:46 PM
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It really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 06:01 AM
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Why do you think that the attractive men are such a big portion of people that pay for hookers that it would offset the ugly/unattractive/unhygienic people? Most attractive men don't go to hookers because they can get their needs met in another way. They excist, but if you are going to fuck for money it will mostly be regulars that can't get laid without paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:42 AM
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You can not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:04 AM
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There's no country in the world where you can just transition because you asked for it. You always need to have documentation of your psych eval. And all those shrinks are missing a porn addiction by a large amount while they should know to look for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:02 AM
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Are middle aged dudes really as bad to women? Yes. Some can get over it (like I presume some men can get over gay sex), but for most of us it's fucking gross and will probably be painfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:58 AM
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If females would just own up and say what truly attracted them I'm honest every single time, just for some reason you keep expecting one woman to speak for the entire gender. There's only one set of rules that's absolutely true and that's that all woman are different. And frankly, you should take a note from our book. Y'all keep complaining about us being too picky, but if the dealbreakers were out on the table sooner, we'd all spend a lot less time on relationships that are going nowhere. And p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:14 PM
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I looked like shit when I was 20, my peak was 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 06:01 PM
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I don't care unless you are like midget short and I've actually have had a crush on someone shorter then me (and I'm 5,2ft) before so it's not just theoretical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:54 PM
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It's the most important factor. I mean... Most of my beliefs are because I think they are the right good thing to do. If I don't care about something, I wouldn't call it my belief and I'm usually apathetic, as in I love to have a debate (passionate debate even) but I don't truly care. But when it's my belief, I care deeply. That means that if you do end up doing something against my belief, then you are doing something that I either consider wrong or bad. That doesn't work in a relationship. Eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 05:48 PM
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And then they don't even take what they can get. The amount of men that don't wear condomns while that's the only limited amount of control they can get is mindblowing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:56 PM
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Men rate fat as more important then women. Which is why even redpillers on this sub need to explain that the reason why working out increases your chances with women, is because less fat makes your jawline look better. And an actual Chad himself also has to put in A LOT of work in order to get ONS. It's a supply and demand problem. The supply (women interessted in one night stands) is low, the demand (men wanting one night stands with women) is high. There are plenty of Chad (depending on the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:40 PM
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Fat can be genetic, I know what you mean, but the fat people should be included in the averages. Offcourse everyone is lower then their average if you exclude the 1's and 2's from the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:06 PM
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Because there is a high chance of birth defects?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:05 PM
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Men have the same time limit as women, their seed gets bad at the same rate as women. Specific example: chances of autism rises with the age of the father just like chances of a kid with down syndrome for a women. Both our stuff gets bad, the eggs and the sperm, just differently. And yeah a man still has viable sperm at 70, but considering the odds of birth defects at that age, he still has a time limit. The time limit is just not enforced by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 02:03 PM
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Lack of reproductive options
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:57 PM
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Belgian migration According to goverment sites, it does not. I know it excists, but I only find asylum seekers when I search for migration. I know people that have migrated, it's not on goverment sites. The tab migration only has asylum on it: https://www.ibz.be/nl/asiel-en-migratie I can use other sources, but I like mine to be from a reputable source instead of an interpretation. the section describing conditions for acquisition of citizenship First link is the blablabla of closing the borders…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:43 PM
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Bull-fucking-shit Are you excluding the fatties?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:32 PM
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Are half the girls you know more attractive or less attractive then her? Because less attractive means that she's above a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 12:58 PM
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Change is needed. Even the desires for life out of both partners stay the same, change is still needed to maintain the same lifestyle. You get older, you need to work harder or eat less to maintain the same figure. If you don't change, then you'll become bigger. At the same time, you are slower and everything takes more time and effort. If you don't work harder, then you don't get the same results. And then there's life making you change. You get more responsibilities at work, you need to work l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:30 AM
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there is /r/rateme that rates body + face Rate me rates men higher and women lower. Seriously...compare two people of different gender with the same rating to each other. You wouldn't call them looksmates. They also score lower if you have bright make-up and you get an automic +2 rating if you include a body picture and you are fit. Like...yes body effects looks but people that are prettier even with their fat are rated lower then people that are fit but have an uglier face. I used the /r/truera…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:39 AM
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Lack of sleep, lack of rest, lack of excercise, lack of sun,... All cause your looks to deteriorate. All those things also happen when you have kids. On top of that you have less time to do the things you used to do to look good (which is why a certain short hairstyle is labeled the mommy cut) and pregnancy stretches your body and takes years off your life. But I'd think you would be suprised at what a 35y old single women looks like. I'm guessing that based on how 35y old mommies look, you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:29 AM
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A face can still look fat, you are rating while excluding the bottom looks in real life. Offcourse your ratings are lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:24 AM
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You'd be a 7 where I live. Also how is weight not a factor in ratings? Being skinny kind of already puts you ahead of average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:13 AM
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Don't worry, you are a 6. You have good skin, cute face, don't look overweight and in my personal opinion you have this girl next door vibe that's adorable. That's more then average people have. A solid 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:07 AM
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As per usual, men constantly complain about women not dating their grade but then you go and rate this woman a 4. She's above average in real life. She's that girl next door kind of cute. Does she compare to instagram models? No, but that's not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 10:03 AM
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Even when both groups are ugly, one group will likely still be more attractive then the other group. It's just ugly and uglier then. Ugly is more attractive then uglier. Your inability/unwillingness to answer just shows that you don't seem to be able to try and be objective. Possibly because it's a belief and not an observation and as such, it's not open for discussion. You should probably reflect on that, doesn't seem healthy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:34 AM
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It does not. SMV drops off a cliff after having kids with the guy you assume they settled for. Be honest...which group is the hottest, the 35y old mommies or the 35y old singles?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:34 AM
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If men knew how frequently their wives don’t actually find them attractive This is true and are just settling for them But it doesn't equal this. Character >>> looks. But that's a realisation that comes with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:54 AM
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Yes, I am. Let's address the issue, why not? This is why: Have you been hurt by someone in your childhood, is it that which causes you to shy away from dealing with difficult questions and hindering your capability to partake actively in a discussion? Show me on this doll where your mother has abused you as a child repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:03 PM
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Let's just make it lopsided towards the male and the mother goes to work and pays support and alimony for as long as it was so far, you know, for balance. =] Oh so you like revenge, not equality. Are we also going to do that with other things? Like... should we stop the current "men get raped too" movement, because that's just payback? How about, instead, let's leave the non-meth-head father out of this, apart from saying that the evil feminist system intentionally wanted to harm the child and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:55 PM
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Why shouldn't the mom have to do it? Why does she get default custody? That's not fair at all either and that's why most western countries have made 50/50 the default, but that's not what we are currently arguing about. You can get the custody from a meth-head in even the most backwards county if you are decent. So if the meth-mom has custody, the dad isn't interessted in the kid or he's worse then a meth-head. Why do you ask? Because there's no way to figure out where the money is coming from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 04:17 PM
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Meth-head If you can't get custody of your kid when the mom is a meth-head and you are not, then you don't want custody of your kid. but nail saloons How much money do you think nails cost? Like... If you pay 30 dollars a week in child support and they go have their nails done for 30 dollars every week... then it's not your money they are using.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:57 PM
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Women How much do you prioritize achieving success in dating and/or sex in your own life? Achievement accomplished. And it was super important until I managed to have a succesfull relationship and don't get me wrong, he's the most important person in my life, I don't want to live without him, yada yada... relationships are so fucking overrated. So if for some reason I end up single, the priority is 0. What do you personally consider to be having achieved success in dating and/or sex? Obtaining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:28 PM
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Here's the recipe for relationships: having had other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 03:12 PM
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Well, anyone who can't trust their partner with their wallet probably shouldn't let them make medical or legal decisions, lol. Exactly that marriage is a simple way to get benefits for couples who were going to be together anyway. Not to mention, once a couple has kids or joint property a break up is still going to be nearly as messy as a divorce. That's almost what I said in the first comment that started all of this. Except I said that it's waaaay more messier then a divorce...which it is. Div…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:37 PM
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I'm not ignoring them. Spouses are next of kin so they're guaranteed hospital visitation and can make medical and/or legal decisions if the other is incapacitated. You can fix this without marriage. Your job is protected for up to 12 weeks/year FMLA leave to care for an ill spouse (here in NY it's paid leave). I'm not expecting that people that think that giving their ex-partner their fair share is 'divorce rape', to wanna leave to take care of their ill spouse. If a spouse dies, property transf…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:27 PM
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That's because marriage is the shortcut for the people that don't want to keep putting in the work. If you go through the shortcut, you miss out on a lot of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:04 AM
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And so people nowadays get together without discussing the financials and then they only get to discuss it when they divorce...and (suprise) it turns out that it's harder to come to an agreement with someone that doesn't like you anymore. Not the mention the amount of people that had different expectations ("I wouldn't have paid all of the mortage if I had known that I would lose half in a divorce.", "I wouldn't have become a stay at home parent, if I had known that you'd leave me."). Like, peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:35 AM
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https://www.ibz.be/nl/asiel-en-migratie It's a bit of a puzzle, because it doesn't excist so I'm looking for evidence of something that doesn't excist. Hij zorgt ervoor dat de wet van 15 december 1980 en het koninklijk besluit van 8 oktober 1981 betreffende de toegang tot het grondgebied, het verblijf, de vestiging en de verwijdering van vreemdelingen worden toegepast http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/eli/wet/1980/12/15/1980121550/justel http://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi_loi/change_lg.pl?langu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:58 AM
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Belgium (essentially, "don't be too poor; don't be a criminal; don't be an asshole"); Belgium requires only 3 years of residency. I live in Belgium, you can't get in unless you qualify, the 3 years of residency are after you qualified. So for instance, a programmer is allowed in because he has a high in demand carreer and the company that employed him has filled in all the paperwork, requested his transfer, posted a job offer for that job, didn't get anyone remotely qualified for the job within …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:50 PM
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Marriage is not a romantic arrangement, it's a financial one and it makes a lot of sense when you start to entangle finances or have kids. Stop treating marriage like a romantic contract and you'll be fine. And if you think that marriage fucks you up the butt in the case of a divorce, then you have not yet tried to get custody of your kids with an unwilling mother without marriage or have tried to entangle a joint asset (like a house) without marriage. Those situations are messy either way, marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:46 PM
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Well... You first have to proof that statement (not a parameter)... I do wanna highlight though that I'm not planning on becoming serious in this thread. Discussions about weight never go anywhere (in my opinion) because people are too emotionally involved. The red guys make fat into something shamefull (subjective) and get upset when you don't treat it the same way and the blue guys literally get emotional and upset about pointing out facts. Eventually both groups will attack you personally. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:34 PM
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Depends on the parameters... which we haven't discussed. Comparing with other countries is pretty damn difficult without the parameters. Probably has something to do with me not being serious in this particular thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:24 PM
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I wasn't talking about this trend in the US, I was saying that I'm not making justifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:20 PM
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Are you planning on replying to what we actually were talking about anytime soon or is it just going to keep being the generic GOTCHA's?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:14 PM
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What justification? I was saying "duh, water is wet".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:11 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 06:07 PM
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you've never dated a man on purpose I can understand how that's a possible interpretation of what I've said but I ment that it's incidental that I've only dated men, as in that I didn't intend to exclude women. Is there anything about men that gets you hot under the collar? Tech skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:56 PM
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I'm going to answer your question in a different way: 'the more responsibilities in day life, the less I want to have sex'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:56 PM
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I didn't even notice that possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:14 PM
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The outliers, like... there's people that are shorter then average (not a problem) and then there's people that are very short due to dwarfism (problem). You can be less attractive to the point of blending in with the crowd (not a problem) or so unattractive that you start to stand out because of it (problem).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:42 PM
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Yeah, I could have told you that without data. Uturuses like fat. It's good for reproduction. But we aren't in the stone age anymore, yet our bodies still act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:32 PM
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Doesn't clean his teeth, doesn't take care of his skin, smells, hair growing in ugly places like the nose, thin cock. And...you know the people that really look a lot different then the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:20 PM
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Offcourse the same can be said for women, I'm taking the usual comments and switching the genders. If no one ever said the same about women, then I'd have nothing to mock.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:05 PM
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Men have bigger stomachs. There's no reason for that to be completely filled, just eat less.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:00 PM
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When I'm talking about attractiveness, I talk about physical attractiveness. I'm only physically attracted to women, men don't do it for me, but I've only dated men (not on purpose).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:56 AM
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And where do the organs go that are supposed to be in that fist-sized hip area?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:56 AM
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There are innate differences in body shape between men and women, and one of these differences is that men generally have wider waists. They what now? Euhm... Because the lack of an entire organ in the waist area means that they are wider there? No seriously...why are they wider when they don't have a uturus? It's also much harder for you to gain your weight around your abdomen if you are female, since their bodies prefer to store fat in the thighs, hips, and buttocks. Counter point: you guys ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:11 AM
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Programmer is a high in demand carreer btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 08:10 AM
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We’ve got ingredients like BPA’s and certain pesticides that we know dramatically increase a woman’s chances of birthing an autistic infant. Autism rates are going up because of it. The autism rates also grow in equal numbers in countries that ban these substances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 02:11 AM
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Almost every country in the European Union doesn't allow migration, with a few legal exceptions like 'genocide'. Technically US citizens are accepted... but the only possible excuse that they can apply for is having a high in demand carreer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 02:08 AM
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Every woman gets pursued by all sorts of men, Did I say that they weren't? If you ever hear women complain about "men" what they really mean is "Chad" because other men may as well not exist in their minds I've kinda have never heard women complain about "men" since graduating high school. Now it's complaining about "this jackass". I'm sure that's what they tell themselves but deep down even they know different. I'm sure that if someone from FDS saw that I wrote that, that they would try to skin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:59 PM
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Bi-sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 02:30 PM
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Oh, so it wasn't a good joke then. Thank you for explaining though!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:56 PM
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I don't get it, with the 'nought', can you explain it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:45 PM
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Not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:39 PM
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Oh yeah I'm totally attracted to him for other reasons then his looks. It's just my experience that when people ask about attraction, they always mean physical attraction. He's technically skilled, that's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:20 PM
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We.Have.Toys!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:21 AM
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The whole reason FDS exists is to teach women to ignore their natural instincts to pursue guys like that. It's my opinion that FDS tries to unteach womens fixer-mentality and their agreeableness, because they themselves weren't able to turn that off for people who don't deserve it. So it's not that FDS pursues guys like that, it's that those guys approach women more often then other guys and FDS (before they became FDS) were less likely to say "no" and would instead go with the flow and hope to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:20 AM
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Is this (sigh again) calling me a lesbian?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:42 AM
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I'm not saying that it's all men, I'm not saying that it's most men, but some men have this belief that they aren't being heard unless the other party changes their behavior based on what has been said. (Maybe women too, but I haven't noticed yet. I don't think I would notice because I don't end up in situations/debates like that with women.) This is frequently seen in decicions where they (the some men) don't hold the decicion-making power. Like when a guy comes online to complain about their S…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:40 AM
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Then something happens that makes them admit they do not find you attractive but they still like you and want to be with you. This happened with me and my SO. Me being the person that didn't find the other one attractive. Otherwise, it sounds like they are just okay with being with me That's not what it is for me. I feel like I'm so freaking lucky for being with him. Everyone else is meh, he's amazing. I just don't typically find men attractive. Even the billboards for male scents with the rippe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:08 AM
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The 2008 crash was caused by stupid people. The people that caused that crash, made a fuckload of money. I'm assuming that you are talking about the people receiving bad loans that they never would be able to pay back, but those people didn't cause the 2008 crash. Extremely simplified 2008 situation: Some dude invented the ability to bet on whether or not people would pay back their loans (so housing loans went Wallstreet). An A+ (or A+++, I forgot, too lazy atm to look up) housing bond were 100…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:39 AM
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How about: I'm not interested in someone that goes crazy for my looks. I'm not going to be friends with someone that is going crazy over my looks. But if you treat me like a normal person (indifference about me being a girl) then I can talk to you like a friend and I can get interessted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:11 AM
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There is very few non married women I know not on dating apps. Obviously this is anecdotal Yup and I know 0 women that are on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 10:35 PM
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No. Women hate dating apps. I'm constantly over here complaining about the amount of dick pics I receive and verbal abuse for not responding fast enough after my inbox gets spammed by multiple matches and I'm always called a luxury complainer "We wish that we had so many matches that we can complain about it". But you (men) stay on the app regardless of your complaints and we (women) leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:27 PM
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It also makes me wonder: where the heck are the women?!? Are they getting connections that easily that they see being online as not necessary? Weird. They leave the moment they start getting unwanted dick pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:13 PM
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Ok... I'm not saying that women cheat more BUT women are more inclined to keep their mouth shut (even with friends) about their own sexual stuff. That's been nurtured. It's considered bad by some people if women have a high n-count (look at this sub somethimes). You only need to meet one of those people in real life during a bad time to learn a lesson for a lifetime. So that your male friends tell you freely about their cheating doesn't mean that your female friends are equally telling you about…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 02:11 AM
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It's during sex, their minds are scrambled. I'm not gonna call it rape when they are high on the feelings and don't understand that I want it to stop. And if that's rape...then every single female friend I know, has been raped. It's pretty much a part of growing up and getting sexual as a woman. Hormonal teenagers and stopping during the act don't mix. It's just normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:41 AM
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Because I'm able to phone for help in such a situation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:38 AM
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You renamed the examples I gave as "being afraid of mistreatement", I called it mistreatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:35 AM
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I'm 1.58. In general men are taller and stronger. I can't get them off me when shit goes wrong and they go "just a minute".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:33 AM
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I frame a divorce as a lesser evil then a bad marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:31 AM
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Spend more than 15 minutes with potential hook ups The average length that someone can pretend to be better then they are is 6 months. (Relevant for dating btw, don't get too serious before 6 months). let a friend know about your location, have him know that you shared that info I'm not afraid of getting killed and dumped behind a dumpster. I know that that's unlikely to happen. I'm afraid of being forced into doing things that I don't want to do. Like... we've all been there before. It's not gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:22 AM
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Yes... because I'm afraid of that, not of being mugged on the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:16 AM
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It proofs that our mistreatement is dismissed as not serious enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:06 AM
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No. Use Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 11:03 AM
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Nah from what I remember men aren't more likely to be raped. But rape is very rare anyway. The statistics usually exclude prison rape. On top of that, there are statistics that followed the old CDC defenition of rape, which is 'forcefully penetrated', so female on male rape is also rape, but that tends to be excluded from a lot of statistics. Yes I'm against what you said. In no sense of the word are women mistreated more often than men. Do you remember me saying that that's because our mistreat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:58 AM
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possible except rape *Including rape actually from getting mugged, to getting assaulted and killed. All violent crimes. So are you against what I said? Because you seem to be agreeing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:38 AM
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I'm not going to search up statistics that counter the point that I've made. Go google.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:37 AM
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Stats show that men are at a larger risk of becoming the victim of a violent crime, not that they are more likely to be mistreated. Unless you mean divorce stats. In which case: being divorced from isn't mistreatement. Marriage isn't chains.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:35 AM
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Oh come off it. You all just don't consider our fears as something that's actual mistreatement. It needs to be actual abuse before it's considered something serious. The threat in a relationship to basically become a house slave after becoming pregnant isn't considered serious. "Just choose a better man! Your own fault for not going for a nice guy!", while bitching about every safety net that was created for that particular situation. Going to a one night stand and having to do things that you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 10:24 AM
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More then that, there's actual statistics about it. Transman are more likely to be unhappy with their gender re-assignment. I don't care, I'm unhappy being afraid. Like, I'm a slut and I only care a little about looks. I'd be banging most of those unhappy men out there by myself if I wasn't afraid of getting hurt. But I am so my n-count is low. If someone is more attractive, then that defenitly makes me behave more risky and fuck them. But the real issue isn't that men aren't considered attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 08:52 AM
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I will absolutely without a doubt give all of that up, if it takes away the increased risk that I as a woman have compared to men, to be mistreated. I'd rather be ugly instead of afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 08:39 AM
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Younger is like fucking a child. Feelings-wise, not a lot of difference between a 16y old and someone 5y younger then me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:26 AM
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Everyone has positives. Me being able to name my positives just means one thing with absolute certainty: I'm good with words. It can mean a couple of other things like that I'm a person with a positive personality, but that's the only thing that we can really be certain of. Not being able to say positives can have multiple reasons that don't exclude you from being a good partner. An example that: being unconfident. Not being confident isn't a good trait, but I wouldn't call you a bad partner for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:34 PM
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If you can only read the positives of someone, then everyone is an awesome partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 10:21 PM
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