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Inner Game WickedBiscuit/r/seduction22/08/22 01:28 AM
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WickedBiscuit/r/TheRedPill06/08/22 10:45 PM
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5 ft 4 in guy here. Do my best to accept that it can’t be changed and (from my experience) keep in the back of my mind that it truly is a barrier to entry for many women. There are also many women that have not cared.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/25 10:54 PM
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Agreed. I am suggesting that C is in flux, requiring the parts to be constantly adjusted to meet the sum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:03 PM
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The implication
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:26 PM
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So then you don’t agree with universal liberty?
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 10:55 AM
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But you just did by asking how race definitions have anything to do with gender definitions… What I’m saying is individual liberty/ freedom to define things is good full stop until it’s not because it has consequences. For example, racism. I am having a discussion about the broader implications of freedom of definitions not limited to gender definitions.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 01:02 AM
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You are talking about an individuals right to make their own definitions and individual liberty. To restrict it to this right only in defining gender roles makes it any oxymoron. “You are totally, completely free to define gender as you want under individual liberty but that’s it, no defining anything else the way you want. If you endorse individual liberty, implicit in that endorsement is that it’s application has no bounds. Otherwise it’s individual liberty with restrictions and only where I s…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 12:50 AM
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Yes, to a degree, but there are implied consequences to this behavior when unchecked. People are free to define other races as inferior, yes that is their individual liberty, but does it provide anything positive to our experience?
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 12:31 AM
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I see your question here and absolutely endorse a persons’ right to define anything in anyway they want. However it makes the definitions irrelevant when you do that. It’s similar to saying well even though there is definition for the word/object hammer, I am going to define every hammer I see as a a four legged animal that barks, for example. It makes the word and definition void. Something that helps me with fem/masc understanding is how it is used in the spiritual sense. In spirituality, femi…
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 12:21 AM
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In theory yes, in reality no. There are plenty plenty plenty of guys willing to get sloppy seconds and be the provider when they are done “having fun”. There is no karmic justice in this situation. They will get their cake with ice cream and sprinkles and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:41 PM
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Stand tall and do the right thing
/r/seduction05/09/22 11:38 AM
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It’s unfortunate that guys that struggle are all lumped into this stereotype of lazy entitled losers. I argue that there are many guys out there that are social, have careers, don’t expect sex or relationships for nothing and take proactive steps to get them and still find many rejections and little to show for it. The standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 12:27 PM
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Guys that concede to all your points and make an effort to do the opposite and still see little success.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:04 AM
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What about the guys that are willing to do the work needed and still struggle?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:13 PM
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Interesting. I WFH as a nurse for a group of urgent cares in New England. Pretty sure as long as my nursing license is active in the state I work in I can be anywhere. Can the country I hypothetically move to prevent me from working even if it’s fine with my company?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:33 PM
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Other than Colombia, what countries would you consider? I was thinking Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Belize or Panama.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 12:45 PM
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This is what I was trying to say in my above comment. We as guys can work tirelessly to achieve a and b but c is an ever moving goal post that IME does not equate to the sum of a and b. Even the advice of TRP when pursued seems to be not a guarantee in todays dating marketplace. Very frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:55 PM
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It is also a cyclical/ self defeating argument. Calling someone an incel is meant to imply that a guy that does not have sex is of low value, implying that guy that does have sex with many people is the opposite, of high value. You can’t complain about how guys only want sex and are pigs and then implicitly glorify them by saying their opposite is a gross incel. Calling someone an incel has the attached implication “and someone that isn’t an incel and has casual sex with lots of women is a winne…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:37 PM
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It’s the Just World Fallacy in real time. People want to believe that a + b = c… so if a guy isn’t getting c, he must be lacking a or b. It’s incorrect that people receive everything they “deserve” and don’t receive everything they “don’t deserve”. People like to think they have earned everything they have or don’t have due to their efforts and a just world. The current dating environment has made any logical a+b=c notion irrelevant. Many guys have a and b without any c.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:55 PM
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I can tell you this- I set up first dates to be coffee or walking my dog. I generally don’t talk about being sober bc in my experience girls really don’t give a fuck about what you went through and your recovery. I just nonchalantly say “yeah I don’t drink, I found it wasn’t for me”. Also, my drug of choice was opiates, alcohol never filled the void enough. When I get close to someone that they have earned learning about those deeper parts of me I will reveal more but it’s on a need to know basi…
/r/seduction23/08/22 11:38 PM
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So you’re upset this girl disrespected you and fucked with your time and your revenge is giving her more of your time and energy… The best “ revenge”doesn’t have anything to do with action or emotions. The best revenge is apathy. Really want to stick it to her and do right by yourself? Be apathetic. Completely erase her from your external, but more importantly, your internal life.
/r/seduction23/08/22 04:57 PM
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No. If there truly is a change coming in response to how the SMP is currently, TRP will no longer be necessary for a man to maximize dating success. It’s contextual. What works in one environment wouldn’t work in another. TRP works in the context of unrestrained hypergamy but wasn’t necessary or particularly effective when hypergamy was restrained.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:43 PM
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TRP was motivated as a response to the change in dating strategy, the SMP and gender roles you described. Basically saying “things aren’t like they were in the 1950s and before, this is how they are and this is is the method men can use to maximize success”. If things are changing back to tradcon like you propose, TRP would no longer be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:23 PM
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It’s such a crazy phenomenon. There have been so many times I think to myself “girl, why are you even here if you are going to put no effort into the conversation?” Like, what are we doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:55 PM
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Men engage in straight talk, women in game talk or power talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:53 PM
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This. It’s not realistic to expect women to change a power dynamic they have the upper hand in. A response has to be elicited via action on the other end of the power dynamic. For all the action women took to push the initiative of feminism, it worked because men conceded to it in response to the action. The same thing has to happen in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:51 PM
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Agreed. I said above and will say again. People have little understanding of the broader, less singular existence they have beyond their wants, desires and feelings. Today, rugged individualism is championed and respect for customs, systems and traditions based on natural differences btwn the sexes and individuals which provided for the greater good such as monogamy, social class, levels of education are belittled as dogmatic. Imagine telling a cat they are “equal” to a dog and encouraging it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:42 PM
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A large part of it too is the blind endorsement and championing of gender equality without acknowledging biological differences inherent and natural btwn the sexes. You see it really rearing it’s head in the whole transgender movement of the past decade and the denouncement of traditional religion and spirituality. People today say they are spiritual to imply they are “deep”. People are championed and encouraged to deny their gender and basically have free reign over their entire existence witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:38 PM
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It has to be a dual-sided effort. In theory, it would work, in reality, the effects of social changes and feminism over the past 60 or so years cannot be undone. It’s not realistic to expect women to take accountability. It’s akin to expecting Amazon to recognize it owns a monopoly of the market and give some of its power up to “even it out”. There’s just no incentive. Bezo’s is a billionaire, he is enjoying that and doesn’t care that other peeps are struggling with money and their is an imbalan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:26 PM
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This is hilarious. Love the commitment to attempting to make a point, really rode that train to the last stop.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 12:04 AM
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Lol I’m picturing the scenes in Little Nicky where he reincarnates and immediately dies again getting hit by a bus or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:17 PM
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Holy shit. Reading this objectively, I have no judgement against you for undertaking all that work/change I am simply impressed, and not in a good way that this is what is required of a man today. Regardless of it being worth it or not or whatever, the fact remains that today, these are the standards it seems men are up against. It’s crazy that there isn’t like a finishing school for boys/men to learn this stuff. Probably BIG money in it. Could be an entire industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 08:14 PM
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My validation is obtained from having the harsh facts reiterated and stated by others. Basically in the confirmation that I am not crazy or unknowingly autistic or something and that the conditions truly are miserable out there for many people. It helps me cut through the gaslighting and self-doubt and internalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:31 PM
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Very well written! Just to add/sum up, I think the zeitgeist of Reddit is particularly PC and many users use it as a platform to demonstrate their adherence to this and to the just world fallacy. You see it particularly on subs like r/self, r/dating and r/askmen. There seems to be a hive mind mentality where anything that isn’t a shade of blue pill is vehemently torn apart and attacked. This brings me to another point. The Reddit upvote/downvote system is used incorrectly by many. It was created…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:34 AM
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Gas.light.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:22 PM
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I believe they sell starter packs at Walmart for this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:20 PM
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There are obviously multiple ways to accomplish this but this is what help me- the 4th step of the 12 steps of AA. It is a dramatic written inventory of your entire life specifically looking at all the things/people you are upset with and reviewing why you are upset and what areas of your life this affected and then looking at what your expectations were in that situation or with those people, how you were being selfish, dishonest, prideful or self- seeking. It doesn’t matter if you are a jehova…
/r/seduction17/08/22 03:00 PM
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Ditch this pseudo alpha male/ independent pride attitude. Life seriously fucks people up. You can make major gains in therapy that would take years on your own. A smart man knows when to ask for help to overcome his challenges. There have been so many times in therapy I have said to my therapist “fuck you… I agree with you” and been able to face truths I had been avoiding for years.
/r/seduction17/08/22 12:19 PM
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Don’t go chasing waterfalls, my man Gotta find a way to get the validation from yourself, from the inside out instead of the outside in. Stop looking for it outside. I repeat. STOP. It’s not even a matter of “how do you get better so that you can get it”, it’s not an option. It won’t happen. It will never work. It will never be enough even if you get some or more. Fill your own cup. Take this metaphor. We walk around deplete in love and attention and validation inside and go around giving the sm…
/r/seduction16/08/22 11:26 PM
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Ooohh I like this analogy!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:03 PM
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I find most women, particularly on OLD play hard to get and it’s very unattractive. It seems to be multiple reasons, one they just have so many matches they aren’t consciously doing it, they are just literally hard to get because their attention is hard to get. Two, they enjoy the attention so give just enough to keep that attention going. It’s a foreign concept to me. If I match with someone or have interest in someone I intend and have the expectation to talk, have a phone call and or a date. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:19 PM
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Oh man, you’re in for a shock!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 03:50 PM
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They become Karen’s. Used to living life on easy mode and having people give them special treatment and reaping the benefits of the halo effect. To us, the Karen’s yelling in the restaurant seem woefully out of touch and self-unaware but to them, they have lived their entire youth being treated like they are special, have an amazing personality and are deserving of special treatment and have not yet had the insight that this was not literally true but true conditionally to the extent that they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:12 AM
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I can smell OP’s smugness from here. Imagine being so entitled you actively perform mental gymnastics to assign validity to people appreciating you🤡.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:10 PM
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We’re dragging you into our mayonnaise and ranch dressing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 11:43 AM
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Jury’s still out
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 10:24 PM
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Oh you should be very suspicious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 07:09 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:34 PM
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😬 bruh the the has not eluded me. Height is extremely important, based on my lived experience. You can have everything else on lock and still barely get noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:33 PM
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What about the guys that have and continue to put in work and don’t see any improvement in their dating life. The guys that have given up having dating on their conditions and have agreed to play the game as it is. I often see the response of “you do those improvements for you, not to get laid” but I think it can be done for yourself and is reasonable to expect an improvement in one’s dating life too. Guys that aren’t just on their couch gaming and jacking off are struggling too it seems. I know…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:11 PM
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I’m curious what you think might be some reasons why it hasn’t happened large scale. Why do you think men have not just fucking gone? Is it just too early? Are there things keeping them here? Can you predict any detriments?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:09 AM
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I see the problems as being caused by forces/circumstances that are unchecked and have no limits. Things like social media and OLD seem to have caused extremes in disparities between access to connection, healthy validation, healthy attention and could be balanced through regulation. Similar to the 3 branches of govt. there are checks and balances that facilitate democracy and prevent one body from monopolizing over another with the goal of providing for all. I don’t see it so much as control bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:42 PM
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I saw this article on r/psychology today and made a comment there. I found there to be a huge disconnect between the changes in the dating landscape the author listed and the possible solutions. The solution they suggested was basically “men, try harder and adapt to these changes/standards”. IMO, the author failed to acknowledge that these changes are problematic and a product of an overall unwell society. They fail to acknowledge that these changes like being disconnected, social media, online …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:14 PM
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Exactly. Don’t fuck the guy that clearly isn’t going to commit. There’s so many guys out there that are looking for commitment and a relationship that are just invisible to women bc their standards are so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:41 PM
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I heard he was a really good to his pets too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:37 PM
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And when you do improve you’re told “nO oNe oWeS yOu AnYtHiNg” This issue is always put on men to “be better, get hobbies, touch grass, be independent, get game, approach etc” and when we do and still don’t see results it’s again out on us “iTs YoUr PeRsOnAlITy” Mofos be out here gaslighting and not considering their side of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:30 PM
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Very succinct. Curious if you have any input on what could be done about this? Or how do you see this playing out in the future? Will there be social initiatives? Will there be a response from men and reciprocal response from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:40 PM
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There are definitely a large number of young men unwilling to improve. However, even for those working on themselves, the “standards” indoctrinated into us in our youth that would make a guy acceptable are not longer even the bare minimum. I think a lot of average guys that are developed and do work on themselves are basically invisible. You see a lot of gaslighting towards young men like “you need to get off the couch and socialize etc. get a career, friends, hobbies, be interesting!” Then one …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 05:36 PM
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For a long time I would cold approach or go after women that gave me no IOI and it was really bad for my mental health. I think there is a big push in a lot of subs to “approach as many women as possible and if you don’t you’re a pussy incel!” Often it’s a waste of time IME. It’s so much easier when someone likes you. Good game can increase interest that is already present but does nothing to spark interest that just isn’t there. I do my best to look for proceptive behavior from women and it’s s…
/r/seduction10/08/22 05:23 PM
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Did we fix him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:57 PM
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Ahh look at that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:45 PM
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Ugh god I wrote on another post on PPD about how sick I am of “you’re just mad you can’t get pussy” “you’re an incel” “nobody owes you anything” and other dismissive comments that plague this subreddit. Like dude, guys are really struggling even in the face of genuine effort let’s at least talk about solutions rather than dismissing people with trite blanket statements. Basically the internet version of you’re prediction of just killing us lol. Also I see “sweaty” all the time. Are these people …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:32 AM
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Yeah I just don’t see a united front among men taking place, at least not without an extended period of suffering greater than what is going on now. I think it is growing, but still needs time. I can picture a mass exodus of men from OLD and dating in general happening, but in a generation or two. For now, there are still so many guys willing to simp, chase girls, put them on a pedestal and validate unrealistic expectations that there is no impetus for core changes. Theoretically a large scale M…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:13 AM
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Technology or waiting. Technology will address many of the issues men have today. Waiting for societal changes to occur naturally in response to current circumstances, of course this will take several generations and may not occur at a scale large enough to have an effect. A mass exodus of men giving up on dating, essentially full blown MGTOW would theoretically elicit a reciprocal response in womens’ standards and even out the current disparities. Realistically though, I don’t see men uniting o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:57 AM
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We should dump him because he’s culturally illiterate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:27 AM
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Trite too. I’m so tired of comments along the lines of “you’re mad because you can’t get pussy” “you’re an incel” “no one owes you anything” as if they are “telling it like it is” and completely disregard the person and put it back on them. Of course everyone can improve themselves but to deny that there are unfair standards and lack of results even for those working on themselves just isn’t helpful. I think there are a lot of guys out there that are genuinely trying and it’s so dismissive to ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:23 AM
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Misery loves company
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:25 PM
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Just want to say Boy Meets World was an amazing show during my childhood
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 06:05 PM
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Because of factors they claim “happened to them” or “because they aren’t feeling it”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 01:22 PM
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Girls will look you dead in the eye and say “I care about you more and hold you in higher esteem than the guys I had sex with at the frat party, and because I like you more I am going to withhold intimacy and the most significant act of connection and affection to demonstrate this” like it’s not ass backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 11:55 AM
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This was fun to read
/r/seduction08/08/22 12:33 AM
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Women can wear shoes now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:12 AM
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I have to admit I have only see the first episode as well. I think you’re right though, they had an opportunity to open up a real dialogue about the behavior of all the “participants” and they are kind of failing to do that. Butthole girl is the best part so far.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/22 11:34 PM
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All true, I want to add that game is usually most effective when interest from the other party already exists. Game can increase that interest/help push it along. Game is not going to get you to the finish line with someone that doesn’t want to be in the race. I think OP makes a good point that it is very common for “average guys” to not even be considered by most women and it is incredibly hard for an average guy to meet the standards that women have today. What I find frustrating is the gaslig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:26 PM
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Rap music is actually pretty instructive regarding red pill attitudes. Don’t hear Kodak black or J cole dishing out any beta bux lyrics. They may be over the top but a lot of rappers give some good insight into what an alpha frame looks like. F- that hoe 'cause she a nat nat You ain't the one for me, baby You ain't got sh- I need You want me to take my time with you Well maybe I'm not your speed Maybe I'm out your league You ain't even got no cheese Maybe I'm just too G for you Or maybe I'm just…
/r/TheRedPill06/08/22 07:30 PM
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https://youtu.be/lOhZl4tD744
/r/seduction03/08/22 05:19 PM
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C’mon man
/r/seduction02/08/22 08:26 PM
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That is what I do, give my number, and I am/was curious what others think of that. I usually have 1-2 messages of witty banter and then tell them to text me and give my #. It weeds out the people that aren’t serious. Any downsides to this that people can think of?
/r/seduction31/07/22 11:03 PM
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☝🏼This is the way. Also tell her you feel really strongly for her and can’t stop thinking about her and how lucky you are to get a chance with her.
/r/seduction29/07/22 11:43 PM
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Yuh thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:53 PM
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This is so depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:04 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:26 PM
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To think that everyone gets what they deserve in this world is naive. Whether it’s getting wrongfully accused and jailed, denied the chance at an education because you have low socioeconomic status despite being intelligent and wanting it or being a person deserving of love and not finding it, unfairness exists. That is my point. I am not comparing any of these on a moral level. I am using them to demonstrate that there is injustice in all domains. I agree, it’s not a 100% rule, but to deny that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:01 PM
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Bless your heart. That’s dope if you live in a just world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:41 PM
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I too would love to live in a world where all guilty people are punished, all innocent people are vindicated, everyone that works hard gets rewarded and everyone deserving of love receives it. But then I take my head out of my ass and look around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:10 AM
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His blue pill is in the “male” 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:06 AM
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Does Amazon sell these labia glasses?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:42 PM
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Given the pretentiousness of her statement I don’t think any further interaction or escalation would be a “win”. If the goal is simply to put your dick in flesh, then sure, proceed. But if the goal is to engage and be intimate with someone interesting, challenging and that contributes value, she already proved herself to be none of those. To me the goal isn’t to just make a connection regardless of quality, it is quality connections. For me it would be better to walk away knowing I held frame, i…
/r/seduction21/07/22 03:12 PM
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Weirdly aggressive and confidently incorrect
/r/seduction21/07/22 02:36 PM
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Absolutely. But I think apathy vis just walking away is an even stronger emotional trigger than staying.
/r/seduction21/07/22 12:43 PM
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I don’t see it as defensive and running off. I see it as stating a boundary and honoring that boundary. It’s not “oh I’m running off bc I’m butthurt” it’s “this person isn’t interesting or challenging me and doesn’t deserve my time”
/r/seduction21/07/22 12:42 PM
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By complying with the demand to prove oneself, you are stepping in to the frame that the other person is higher value than you. Any further interaction is only going to strengthen that dynamic. A person of value knows they don’t need to prove themselves to anyone and wouldn’t waste their time doing so. Seems weak to me to feel the need to prove yourself to someone. Frame control is so important. A confident, fun guy is approaching a girl giving them the opportunity to take part in his awesome li…
/r/seduction21/07/22 12:33 PM
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Exactly what you did
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:37 AM
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Quick brown fox*
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:35 AM
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Is it “right”? No. But apparently this game is amoral. Best to accept that the behavior will be ruthless, unsympathetic and uncompromising.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:39 PM
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Qualia
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:34 PM
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Just world fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:03 PM
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Check out r/truerateme. The sidebar has a guide for rating with objective standards and examples for 1-10 both male and female. Much more honest in the ratings. R/rateme gives every girl that hasn’t been hit with a shovel a 7+ just for existing. Edit - as I read further I see the has been mentioned an debunked as just as unrealistic. Fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:11 PM
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14-20
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:56 PM
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They are clearly all incels by conscious choice and should just be themselves and join meet ups and it will all work and they will poop rainbows
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:32 PM
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Is it just me or is r/rateme full of white knights that give all women a rating of 8/9/10 when they are clearly 5 or below? I go on there and feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Or are they all just taking the blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:49 AM
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*glory hole
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:48 PM
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This is so true. The dating subs other than this one are very PC and prefer to uphold the status quo. Guys that say anything other than “women are angelic” are labeled incels and any reasonable assertion is discounted before it is even considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:30 AM
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Curious if you have any specific recommendations for countries? I speak Spanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:35 PM
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Based on what occupies my mind the most, being attractive and getting validation via being found attractive. That being said, in practical terms, I work 40hrs a week as an RN helping people. I have much more verifiable success in the latter compared to the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:11 AM
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You’re just trying to make me shorter, I know you’re plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:56 AM
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Thank you. Venus is in Gatorade right now I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:54 AM
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TIL my expectations and judgement of myself are completely incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:45 AM
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Upper or lower?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:42 AM
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Thank you for the reality check lol. Getting too in my feelings over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:35 AM
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2 LTR, one in which the girl left her bf of 7 yrs and sold their house to be with me, was flattering but also very unhealthy. Been with about 20 people. A lot of it is psychological I think, whenever I have a cold streak I blame it on my height bc it’s an easy excuse? Maybe my perception of myself is off but I feel there is an inconsistency btwn my SMV and the success I have and wonder if it is really skewed bc of my height. I was rated an average of 7 on r/rateme but didn’t mention my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:34 AM
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I hate talking numbers but I’m somewhere ~20, most shorter a couple an inch or so taller. It’s like I have enough success to keep playing but enough of a handicap I generally get rejected and have a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:30 AM
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I’ll get my passport
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:27 AM
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I’m a 5’4”M. Is this a losing battle for me? Registered nurse, two bachelors degrees, speak Spanish, gym 4x week, rock climb 2x week, have a dog, can cook, can garden, socially capable. Does the height negate all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:25 AM
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Agreed. Maybe in a generation or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:43 PM
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That is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:39 PM
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Also, this was all done under the strict observation of an endocrinologist in order to mitigate any potential side effects, so, no I did not have any noticeable issues. I also had no issues because I was not abusing it, aka I was only being supplemented with an amount that would make it equal to what a healthy person has, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:30 PM
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When I was 16 it was decided that it was time to discontinue the supplementation because at that point the potential height gains had been reached. Height can be increased in a small window but at a certain point you are fighting a losing battle against genetics. If I continued past that point with supplementing I wouldn’t grow vertically at all but my hands, feet and forehead would continue to grow as they are the final growth plates to finish during development.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:26 PM
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I was born with HGH deficiency and was supplemented from age 3-16. Without it I would have been around 4’8, weak bones, poor vasculature, Blood pressure issues, low muscle mass. Supplementing got me to 5’4” which is still brutal but gives me a fighting chance at relative normalcy. A side effect of the HGH (in combination with doing gymnastics for a decade) is that I am extremely muscular which also works in my favor. Not hardmaxxing in the traditional sense because the choice was made by my doct…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:16 PM
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True. I guess I mean guys just stop trying rather than full GTOW and put effort in again when conditions are more favorable after an adjustment by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:42 PM
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Wouldn’t a natural response to this situation be widespread MGTOW, which in turn would have a reciprocal adjustment in dating strategy by women? All of this not involving state intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:19 PM
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“Would it be on the news?”🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:34 PM
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Have you heard of meet up? Expand you social circle and just be yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:12 AM
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😇
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:26 PM
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Just be yourself, there is someone for everyone. Find some hobbies and expand your social circle. Have you heard of meet up?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:20 PM
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My experience in r/dating had been one of witnessing a ton of gaslighting and name calling. This sub generates a lot more thoughtful discussions. Any comment I have made on r/dating they isn’t in the vein of “just be yourself” or “just keep trying, there’s someone for everyone” is met with tone deaf accusations of inceldom. It’s simultaneously comical and depressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:35 PM
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I remember that post from the trans man, it was on tumblr I think. What an incredibly insightful perspective that few women will ever experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:32 PM
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Just curious what you think “the things that give way” that you mentioned will look like? Sexodus? A reemergence of monogamy? A different system other than monogamy to control hypergamy? I often wonder what that reaction to todays dating culture will be in a generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:13 AM
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Well, I think it’s amoral. A worldview can prevail but it doesn’t necessarily mean it is “right”. I think it will take on popularity but it’s supporters will be “I would if I could but I can’t so I won’t” and endorse it by default and not really do much self improvement. Reactionary. So I don’t think it will prevail out of virtue, but as a reaction. The “right way” would, I think, if you are going to do it, is to be MGTOW by choice and even if you could have all the success in dating and sex you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:20 PM
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My understanding is the people you describe are “ reactively” MGTOW, versus the healthier way of “responsively” MGTOW. Basically they don’t have an option/ don’t want to improve so they go MGTOW as a righteous blanketing for their feelings of rejection and unwillingness to improve. I think healthy MGTOWers literally don’t care anymore about dating and don’t have anything to say about the topic because it occupies so little space in their consciousness or at least don’t associate it with their wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:01 PM
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I think a lot of men will be driven to it for that reason and agree, basically akin to “taking your toys and going home”. However, I think the healthy way of MGTOW would be those guys that stop putting such emphasis and worth on sex and relationships. Instead of “I am doing all this self improvement so that I can get laid” it’s “I am doing all this self improvement to increase my QOL. For me, without expectations of success in dating as a result” That’s what I mean by it being done with bitterne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:49 PM
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Absolutely. I think many guys will get tired of constantly being told “no” and indirectly told they are not good enough and will eventually just stop trying and put their energy into pursuits that have direct results relative to effort out in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:34 PM
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It seems in the current climate, men have 3 options. One is to continue with their dating strategy and outlook as it is. AKA the simping and white knight mindset. Another is to make efforts to join the proverbial “20%” by increasing their SMV. Lots of work, lots of personal benefits and probably will improve an individuals’ QOL, but not a guarantee that it will bring success in dating specifically. The last option is MGTOW. Basically for those that do a cost benefit analysis and decide neither o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:20 PM
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Insert solipsistic tone deaf “incel alert 🚨” accusation here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:28 PM
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In an ideal western world, men would collectively raise their standards and stop allowing women to be the entitled, over-valued divas they are today. I don’t think this will happen collectively by conscious choice. I would love to see enough MGTOW that women are brought back down to earth. What I see as likely is VR porn and MGTOW becoming so popular that women are left with no options. Their attitude will change but I think men being into dating again will only occur in a generation or two in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:13 PM
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Curious where you would go? Where do you think it would be better? Asian countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:14 PM
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“He started rock climbing, hiking and going to meet ups and just worked on himself a bit and made an effort to be more social and now he is swimming in girls… but most of all “he was just himself”. Thanks we are all fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:09 PM
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“Or an avatar that chose authenticity as a defining characteristic”… What an unprecedented and depressing time we live in. This is spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:19 PM
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Lol that works! Now she is just on a shitter
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