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people here dont want to be traditionally masculine Thats correct and its one of, if not the, biggest setbacks to their dating lives. do you support men who dont conform? No. I will not support you being a bitch. I will help you if you want to make a man of yourself but I'm not going to encourage you in any way to remain a weak pussy. is trad the only way to go? Yes it is. Its only extreme decadence and wealth that enables you to not be like this, anywhere there is hardship you find heightened s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:42 PM
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i dont see how this part was a choice Thats not the choice I'm talking about. That negative thing happened, whether by nature or by external forces doesnt matter, it happened and it affected them. The issue is what happens later. They've acknowledged that the negative thing happened and that it impacted them, its why they use it as an excuse. The choice, comes after that acknowledgement. "I was socially stunted because i was bullied in school." Ok, well youre out of school now so the bullying is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:04 PM
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I'm being hyperbolic but the examples I gave are not hyperbole. Even so, far is a good assumption when talking about americans and neck beard is more congruent with the shut ins that actually are present here. Despite this, if even a smelly neck beard can put in the work, then its going to be possible for you if youre better off than that. You could go out, socialize often and still run into problems, sure. But then "the work" of improving your social skills factor comes into play. If youre runn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:42 PM
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The alternative is to not get over it and stay traumatized and socially stunted. You keep trying to brush this all off but your proposal is to just keep doing nothing. Just repeat the same shit over and over and expect a different result, magically, out of nowhere. Its insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:29 PM
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The likely scenario? Years and years and years ago they had something negative happen. Either they were socially awkward as kids and never developed social skills or they got bullied or they have autism... something happened that stunted their social growth and development. Instead of realizing that theyre socially stunted and that they need to fix things, they cooped up on the internet and found an alternative explanation for their failure. They then use this explanation to avoid putting in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:25 PM
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you sound like an asshole Nah, what you're hearing is actually the sound of your passive aggressive self. you called american girls fat as hell! The majority of them are. Its a demographic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:18 PM
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If you really need help then go get it. But most dont even do that. What they do instead is use the need for help as a means to excuse putting in the work. "Oh i cant socialize and need help, but im broke so i cant see a therapist, guess im not leaving the room now because i just cant do it on my own!" Its usually another excuse to not even try to work things out by themselves because you've already concluded that its out of your hands when its not. proper socialization when young is necessary t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:09 PM
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Just stay indoors bro, you'll meet so many people that way. Bitches will climb through your bedroom window any day now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:56 PM
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Its no surprise why a guy like that doesnt make friends easily either. If everything is traumatic to you, then you're probably not an easygoing person, you likely collapse at the first setback or annoyance. Wonder why people would avoid that to go be with others who are stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:55 PM
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You're right, getting bullied in high school is just as bad as having to kill or be killed. Its in no way much easier to get over one than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:53 PM
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If i bring the minimum from 5'3 to 4'10 it goes up to 15.93%. Bigger but nowhere near as significant as a full third.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:50 PM
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Trauma isnt even that bad, its really overblown for a lot of people. Ive had issues but after I met a friend who is an ex-marine I learned to be appreciative of what I do have instead of focusing on the negatives. My bro has almost been executed in gunfights several times, had to see members of his squad die in combat and then came back to deal with more of them offing themselves at home. Thats real trauma, and he is mostly over it without even seeing a therapist. With that as my point of compar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:33 AM
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I'm not having difficulties meeting women, its easy for me to have sex (i actually got a txt yesterday from a milf who wants to celebrate her divorce by "getting physical"). I'm having trouble meeting women that are relationship material, but again that issue is mostly just because american girls are fat as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:26 AM
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It is though. If you dont do pushups, situps and squats today its because YOU CHOSE TO NOT DO IT! Nothing is stopping you but you and your choice. Same thing with socializing, nothing but you is stopping you from going out right now and starting a conversation with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:20 AM
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Just stay home and never address your issues sweaty... its not your fault ... the world owes you and you deserve everything for nothing. Face the facts, just because shit happens to you doesnt mean its still not on you to move on and keep living.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:17 AM
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Its impressive how they can type it out without seeing the obvious problem and the obvious solution
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:15 AM
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Yes, i am in fact 6'0, thin, unmarried and childless in the 18-30 age range with a salary projected to hit 6 figures in a few years. If I could take a full 3 months off work and date spanish, ukranian, polish, russian women in their countries to find a bride to bring home it would be possible in that short timespan because demographics are just overwhelmingly so much more favorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:17 AM
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The best help for them is literally to touch grass. Like a fat person who never went to the gym once, the antisocial terminally online person must also go out in public and exercise their "social muscle". The problem is they'll give up quick, same as the new year resolution folk, and fall back to routine. They dont really need help, they simply need to take responsibility for their choices that got them where they are (society has not kicked you out just because youre ugly/autistic/bullied as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:35 AM
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those are dating apps They're all hookup apps, people just want to pretend the newer one is the serious one because it gives more plausible deniability. When tinder was the hookup app, bumble became the serious one, now its hinge, tomorrow it will be the newer one and all the past ones are hookup only. If you want a date, its simple, go out and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:18 AM
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i cant see why men are struggling to get into relationships For me its just demographics. Of women my age (18-30) only 9.5% of them are thin, unmarried, chidless and 5'3-6'1 in height. So the lowest of standards I could possibly imagine, be thin, dont have kids and actually be single, absolutely decimate my dating options. Of that 9.5%, I'm going to have to keep cutting. If shes got a boyfriend but isnt married shes going to cut that number down. Same with general compatibility and attraction (y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:10 AM
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A lot of women are delusional but so are a ton of dudes (especially here). The reality is most people here are outright romantic failures, and most men here arent trp but mgtows and incels hiding under the redpill banner because theyd get banned for actually posting blackpill content. A lot of the "hate" is just sour grapes and the reality is that a lot of the guys here are terminally online and refuse to socialize irl. I get frequently downvoted for suggesting that choosing to not socialize is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:53 AM
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Its more of a blackpill thing because they think not having a gf as a teen is a major reason for their lack of success today. They dont get that teen love is really just infatuation backed up by sex (if you get that far) and hormones. Its a normal part of growing up but its really not that significant. The "relationship" i had when i was 15 is a joke compared to the relationship I had at 20. Teen love is fine but sex should be off the table for them. Go on dates, make out a bit, but leave it at …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:31 AM
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The most damning part, i think, is this one: How is it acceptable to look at an autistic person who's struggling and say "you, yes, you, the one who was born socially disadvantaged and developmentally delayed, YOU have to put in the work, because I as a neurotypical person, for whom it's easier, can't be fucked to bother"? Sums up the entitlement mentality perfectly. "I'm autistic so its unacceptable to tell me i have to put in the work. Youre normal, so you should do the work for me and if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:16 PM
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You dont even need professional help, you just need to view it as a multifaceted problem to be fixed one piece at a time and then put in the time to fix the pieces. The social ineptitude is really astounding, you should read the tantrum one of these dudes sent my way just because I tell people that they need to accept responsibility for the results of their life choices, including the choice to not actively socialize. Its genuine insanity, teenage "the world owes me because it hurt me" type shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 05:06 PM
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The most important takeaway is that the people who whine about their efforts not working are (probably) doing it wrong. They treat it like an exercise checklist instead of a trial and error process. Instead of "do 20 pushups" theyve got "approach 5 girls", theyll do it in the same odd awkward way and fail and then say the process failed them, rather than realize the mistake isnt in approaching but in HOW theyre approaching and then wondering what they need to fix. suggestions? One tip for that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:59 PM
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people are too superficial No, not really. My standards for the modern american woman are as follows: be thin, single, childless and have a height between 5'3 and 6'1. Besides height, it really couldnt get any lower than this right? Thin, not married and childless. If you set the bar any lower it would be on the ground! Despite that, only 9.5% of women in my age range (18-30) fit that category. 90.5% of my dating pool is eliminated outright based on those dirt low standards. That's also before y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:47 PM
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Id leave. I also would have intervened long before she hit 55lbs of extra weight though. I would have said something at the 15lb mark at the latest. obviously this may affect your attraction to her It would outright kill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:32 PM
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Its not bad sex that lets her tell, its everything before sex that lets her know. Most male virgins arent exactly confident, bold, flirtatious and romantically competent when on a date. Theyre usually nervous, awkward, struggle to keep eye contact, have guarded rather than relaxed body language... thats how they know. the notion that a man should get better at sex is pornographic Statements like this are also a dead giveaway that someone is a virgin. lots of couples cant communicate properly You…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:21 PM
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Its fucked up that normal men lose to thugs because of overconfidence Which means being overconfident is the key to success. Then its really not fucked up that normal dudes are losing out, if anything the solution for them is quite simple: just display more confidence than you reasonably should have. Heres a hint: it actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:15 PM
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I have the deleted response to this since its saved on my clipboard from when I was formatting a response to it. I wont name names but I'll repost it here because it just proves the point so well: its all a lack of personal accountability, an overestimation of effort and a massive victim complex to try and justify never moving forward. Mods, pls dont delete, the contribution to the topic is too good and I wont complain that its not really civil towards me. Why can't it actually be feminism, prop…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:59 AM
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I expect you to grow up and get over it. You dont love someone, you love the idea of someone. Thats not even love either, its really just infatuation. its gotta mean more than that No, thats exactly the problem. You give a delusion more meaning than it actually holds just because its backed by emotion (strong infatuation). You think the emotion makes the delusion real, but the truth is that youre simply deluding yourself. Your excessive fear of the boogeyman does not make him real, just like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:43 AM
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I really wish you hadnt deleted his response. His tantrum proved to every reader that it really is just his refusal to take personal accountability combined with an erroneous perception of the world holding him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:35 AM
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if it was that simple It really is that simple though. The caveat is that you'll actually need to have social skills, you'll need to actually be fully confident and you need to meet a basic level of well dressed/groomed and not fat. If thats not you then theres still some good news: you can always lose the weight, dress better, groom better, and you can work on your social skills and confidence too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:25 AM
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op will tell you theres something wrong with you its because women love the just world fallacy Dude admitted that the last time he asked a woman out was 2 years ago. Safe to assume that yeah, theres something massively wrong with his particular plan to find a date by socializing but not asking a woman out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:14 AM
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What are you, 15? Grow the hell up. Also, you dont love her you love the idea of her. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:09 AM
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I dont think theyre lying, I just dont think they're aware of why they're failing. I spoke to a dude who emphasized how hard he worked at improving himself, how hed spent so much effort for over a decade of his life and actively went out and put himself out there. He was adamant that he had tried desperately to fix his social life, and that when hes engaged socially he has no problem cracking jokes and keeping conversation. And then, during our back and forth, he revealed that he considers it ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:01 AM
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the last time I asked someone out was 2 years ago Yeah, I wonder what the issue to your lack of success might be...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:50 AM
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rich men have no problem with gold diggers because they can afford to pay for their shit You fundamentally dont understand what a gold digger is and why men have a problem with them. Rich dudes dislike gold diggers as much as poor dudes do, because no one in the world likes to be used and lied to. A gold digger lies to you about her interest, she doesnt like you she just likes your money. Rich guys arent suddenly ok with this because theyre rich, theyre not a fan of being with someone who doesnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:45 AM
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working women build the same attitude that women in the west develop and end up masculine and resentful Tell me you've never gone abroad without telling me you've never gone abroad. This is not how it is at all. Theyre not a fan of work, they dont chase a career, they remain feminine because they know that if they dont every other girl will outcompete them, and they are ecstatic rather than resentful when your comparatively rich ass shows up and affords her instant luxuries she'd have to work mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:37 AM
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its harder to find a virgin because they have less tech and opportunity Virginity isnt advertised, so tech and opportunity isnt a factor. Its a matter of proportion, and its a fact that outside the west and some asian countries, body count is lower and virginity is higher. Youd have to be insane to suggest that its as hard or harder to find a virgin in the middle east than in america. Eastern Europe also has higher odds of virginity just from a cultural standpoint. Super developed nations like j…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:26 AM
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Ive seen both ends of the spectrum on church women. Type 1 is the actual hardcore christian, shes still a virgin at age 26 and is waiting for marriage. She actively dates, but is also highly neurotic, holds average people to unrealistically high standards of behavior and ethics, and has made it known that failure to attend mass at least once a week is going to lead to a fight. Type 2 is probably what you're seeing, an ex hoe who will paint her hoe past as abuse or a mistake rather than a continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:59 AM
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The only genuine time old virgins are an issue for dudes who are honest about it would be that shes too picky because if shes still a virgin by say 30 then something is clearly wrong with her, neuroticism, unrealistic expectations or self perception, lack of effort, stuff like that. In your 20s though? Its mostly going to come up as an issue where dudes will say they can wait but really cant so they'll push for you to bend the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:45 AM
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If you need a youtube/tiktok/twitter spokesperson for a set of beliefs you already hold then you're after a parasocial relationship, because if you were enough of a self reliant individual you wouldn't be looking for some speaker online to validate you because "hes my leader now." Its parasocial given that his only interaction with this spokesperson would be online and one way. If you cannot relate to a single person around you, then by definition you have a serious problem socializing and/or ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:26 PM
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how do you start a relationship? I go out alone and make sure Im not alone after the first 30-60 minutes. I met 3 strangers at a bar this Saturday, met up with one of the girls for brunch on Sunday, shes texted me last night asking to see me again. As much as people on reddit try to deny it, "just go out and talk to people" remains the best thing you can do if you want to get a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:01 PM
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The biggest red sign is in his last paragraph: there is not a single american individual i can personally relate to So its not just thinking movie characters are real, its either desperation to enter into a parasocial relationship at best or zero connections irl at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:51 PM
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there is not a single american i can relate to on a personal level This statement right here should have raised so many red flags in your own mind yet you saw none of them and thats a massive fucking problem. Youre at best admitting a desperation to engage in a parasocial relationship, potentially admitting you cannot relate to any real human beings around you at worst, yet rather than think to yourself that you need to develop real connections and self reliance your first thought is "but where …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:48 PM
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B as soon as he/she starts to shower and brush hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:42 PM
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hes still not getting it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:13 PM
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Yeah permanent alimony is fucked up. I'm not for it. Its not even just refusing jobs but even if she just never marries she can collect. She can get a new boyfriend, date him for 20 years and it still doesnt let the ex husband off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:11 PM
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This was during at fault divorce when 80% of sahms didnt work. So no, it wasnt that she had to pay but that she gave up her claim to alimony entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:05 PM
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that doesnt make sense Oh, are you having trouble understanding humor and irony? Wonder what thats indicative of...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:04 PM
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No, you really just live up to your name and choose to be very dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:22 AM
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I dont doubt that you've got a few genuinely making the move, I do doubt that most of them are doing this though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:21 AM
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they wanted to be Thats not something they choose on their own though, you have to agree to foot the bill for them to do it. If you've made it so they reasonably rely on your paycheck then you clearly cant just cut them off no warning. If you didnt want to pay her alimony, you should have told her ass to stay in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:04 AM
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unironically calls people here autistic has been posting on reddit for almost 8 years Lol. Lmao even. Self awareness check?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:01 AM
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Thats... exactly what I said though? It generally goes to women because women generally are the stay at home partners...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:58 AM
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Or I'm speaking generally because women are generally the ones who stay at home to raise kids. If a man gives up a decade to raise kids, however unlikely that may be, he should also receive some alimony to actually gain recent work experience and be given ample enough time to rely on his own paycheck. Alimony is awarded to the lesser earning spouse, aka the one who stays home and doesnt work, not solely women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:48 AM
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The answer is still valid. Its so subjective that theres no need to have a discussion about subjective taste because no objective conclusion will be drawn from a purely subjective opinion. Arguing for the sake of arguing is just ridiculous, especially since OP has gone on to try to argue objective conclusions rather than simply admitting its a definitively subjective answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:45 AM
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Alimony was set up perfectly before, it was to be given at fault which was the only cause for divorce. Husband cheated? Hes on the hook because hes at fault for killing the marriage. Wife cheated? She gives up a claim to alimony for killing the marriage. It was perfect and beautiful. Alimony in a no fault setting is justifiable in limited circumstances, that being a few years in cases where a stay at home partner gives up an extreme amount of years to be highly negatively impacted. Its OK in pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:37 AM
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Its pretty good. Lifetime alimony is kinda bs nowadays. I highly doubt that women who qualify for it have zero work history/education or a serious disability preventing them from working. The few very old women who divorce and qualify can probably be sustained with some alimony (not lifetime) and social security. Lifetime alimony is a dinosaur from a social era that does not reflect modernity. You cant have it both ways. We either move towards modernity and amend the law as needed or we move tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:19 AM
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this is a fallacy No its really not. any problem arises when one person has an issue Thats what ive been saying though. I dont understand how you can say I'm wrong only to then immediately say the exact same thing is correct. you havent said anything here I dont need to say anything further, the point is extremely obvious and you've just confirmed I'm right. You just say I'm wrong for some random reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:41 AM
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Traveling alone doesnt take away meaning from a marriage, especially traveling for work. Its only a problem if the other person thinks its a problem since some might think its great and be supportive instead. otherwise marriage is bill splitting No, your premise is just highly flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:06 AM
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The simple answer is it depends on the individuals in question. What I think is too much is not what someone else thinks is too much. If your friends are having issues, they need to talk about their personal issue with it, not some "well most people think I'm right so you have to" argument. No debate is necessary, its all personal preference and there is no right or wrong answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:32 AM
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hes saying theyre being stigmatized due to fallacious reasoning! In the aggregate sure, in an individual level? Probably not. Complaining that you're part of a stigmatized group in some abstract aggregate theory is just absurd. I'm single, I dont feel attacked or gaslit or stigmatized for it because even if people wrongly assume single = socially inept, I dont believe I am and am confident most people wouldnt maintain that assumption after meeting me. your answer is "well thats life you gotta de…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:04 AM
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its not your best bet to assume theyre single because theyre socially inept Again, we dont assume this of people we meet we assume this in a vacuum. If you're talking to someone who is clearly competent but single, no one assumes incompetence for obvious reasons. its a fallacy And people routinely think in a fallacious manner, its the default for humanity. People dont think fallaciously to be intentionally malicious. Thats the whole point, you ascribe some sort of stigma and obscenity to normal …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:12 PM
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it doesnt mean most singles are socially inept, you're espousing a logical fallacy If A then B does not mean B is A is correct, however it doesnt mean if A then B is a wrong statement either. Despite this, it is not obscene that people do not engage in high level reasoning for every interaction they have or for their perception of the world. It is obscene to attack the majority of people for having a normal thought pattern just because it personally offends you. black criminals Yet most people d…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:14 PM
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its obscene that theres a stigma against singles as socially inept Its really not, because its a solid assumption that socially inept people will be single. deadbeat druggies get into relationships Drugs are actually (generally) social boosters and drugs actively work well as a means of helping you make friends. Stoners in college tend to flock together easily over their love for weed to the point where you can have a massive social circle solely around the fact that you smoke weed. My own exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:14 PM
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You said that cultural differences are so massive that in most countries you cant just go out and make friends. I asked you to provide an example and you call that a strawman? You have no clue what a strawman is and you also apparently have no clue what youre talking about because you cant give an example. Ironically, I gave you one instance where you cant just go out and make friends (north korea) so ive made more of an argument for your side than you have so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:26 PM
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there is no such thing as a concord post, aka a post both sides can agree on Totally not a nonsense extreme though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:24 PM
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you were legally prevented from living in your own ok you could do it but you had to jump through hoops Well, there goes your original premise. Good try. You could do it entirely independently though. Presence of discrimination is not a full bar so even if you were a woman seeking credit you wouldnt necessarily be denied credit. It was very hard to get it as a married woman, because from the banks POV she likely didnt work and the husband would be unaware of a loan hed have to pay for. A single …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:18 PM
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Read the actual law instead of trusting a journo misinterpreting the law: "The purpose of this part is to promote the availability of credit to all creditworthy applicants without regard to race, color, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, or age (provided the applicant has the capacity to contract); to the fact that all or part of the applicant's income derives from a public assistance program; or to the fact that the applicant has in good faith exercised any right under the Consumer…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 02:31 AM
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to seek out women you dont like I go to shows because I like the music. You can like punk music without having to make that the core of your identity, dress and personality. I dont dislike hoes either, i just dont want to commit to one. I'll never understand fucking someone you dont like Thats life as a man, little head has a one track mind of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:58 AM
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couldnt open bank accounts until 1974 The 1974 equal credit opportunity act had to do with stopping discrimination on the basis of multiple classes for credit and lending, not for opening a bank account. So thats wrong right off the bat. barred from owning property The barriers to property ownership were exclusively for married women, so single women were able to own property and enjoy full rights with that property. Laws passed in the 70s to remedy this focused on granting married women equal r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:53 AM
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I'm not sure how cringe is anger but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:54 PM
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why do they go for salary, career or education when asked what they bring to the table instead of feminine qualities? Because thats primarily what they bring to the table. Theyre being honest, essentially telling you that her feminine qualities are less in quantity compared to her masculine features. its because of schooling and praise No, its simply because thats what they bring. If you date a mormon, a fundamentalist one might tell you she brings a deeply religious personality to the table and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:52 PM
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the final pill is 18 arguments with strawmen I cant imagine spending all that time typing up such an awful shitpost that is basically an amalgamation of nonsense extremes spoken by trolls and delusional posters. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:43 PM
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redpillers want preppy margot robbie types No idea who that is, but no i just want someone normal. Punk/alt girls are massive hoes from my experience and are generally unstable personally and mentally. The level of hoe is unparalleled too, the last goth girl i fucked asked me to hold a knife to her throat and then cut her a little when she was close to orgasm to push her over the edge. Beyond insane, immediately ghosted her after that. As for not caring about traditional roles, thats not the cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:21 PM
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it is when its legal to discriminate No its not. Social discrimination is not legal discrimination. Segregation was legal discrimination. Women as a class did not have the legal equivalent to racial segregation. You trying to equate the two is utter fantasy, no example by law existed. possible for some doesnt mean possible for all Bullshit. Your argument would now have to be that the law not only banned women from working but somehow also allowed for a high percentage of women to work while at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:47 PM
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most didnt work outside the home until 1980 A choice not to work is not proof of laws preventing you from working and earning a living wage. The fact that you had women who did work and did earn a living outside of poverty is proof that you were not legally barred from doing something. Most women today dont buy mens razors for their own use, but this isnt evidence that women are legally banned from buying mens razors for themselves or proof that they cannot afford them. gender discrimination was…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:55 PM
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women had to be traditional or starve to death BY LAW No, not really. Half of single women in 1930 worked and so did 12% of married women. Barriers to high pay were mostly the result of the fact that we didnt even have mandatory schooling until 1922 (which was imposed to eliminate child labor btw) so practically everyone was underqualified for high skill work and did menial labor in factories. There was no law that said "women marry or die in poverty" just like no laws prohibited women from seek…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:36 PM
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you must be bound to traditional roles i dont have to be Its pretty self evident
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:19 PM
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will more men cold approach? No, but we should. A lot of men here are so in love with rotting in the four walls of their room that they will really just make any excuse to not go out. This really wont push them over the edge. will it make more men go out? No, if you dont go out because of porn you'll find distractions like gaming to stay indoors. title 9? Will keep intruding but not because of a porn ban will men tolerate interest asymmetry? Yeah, we already do and have to. i hear many women com…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:29 PM
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Go ahead and explain, culturally, how going out and socializing with people will somehow prevent you from making friends just because "oh we live in this country."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:29 PM
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I think a sahm might get a job and help if you run into financial complications while the gold digger will cut and run. you think a sahm doesnt factor in your paycheck? I think every woman does, the thing is a question of degree though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:50 AM
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I brought this up and this dude pretended like most men put in a serious effort to improve without ever lifting a single pound. Its yet another dude who wants to run to the victim mentality of "its all useless" when its never been easier to stand out as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:01 PM
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they did put in the effort Close to 2/3rds of young men (18-30) are fat, so no, most of them have not put in a barebones effort because getting in shape is the most basic part of self improvement. Most young men also cannot approach and have no game, so what you call effort is really just "well i tried a few times and gave up." Additionally, of men making an effort, a lot of them dont actively try to make corrections and repeat the same mistakes. Ive spoken to two men this week on here who admit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:57 PM
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its all so skewed against you Its really not. Your average dude has dogshit game, most of them are outright afraid to approach a woman in a bar or club. Your average guy is fat and doesnt dress nearly as well as you could. More and more dudes have actively given up and basically never leave the house. It is fucking easy for you as a man to get a woman, the key is to literally just fucking talk to them out in the world instead of online. Minimal effort can put you ahead of a majority of men, its …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:14 PM
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how can you justify an inconsistent standard? Easily, by letting her have her own standard and having no hars feelings if my own past disqualifies me in her eyes. This whole "standards must be equal across the bosrd or theyre bad/wrong" is just ridiculous. why do men hold women to higher standards than men? Because I dont want to fuck a man, I want nothing to do with a man beyond friendship or business so why would I care what he does in his romantic life? post hoc justification I dont need to j…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:45 PM
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37.1% assuming a height requirement of 5'8+. Income was not a factor for both groups as thats just too personalized instead of general. Still, quite the disparity at first glance aint it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:58 PM
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Ive been to spain, england, france, italy, czech republic, austria, ukraine, several caribbean countries and mexico. Turns out, people really arent as alien as you make them out to be just because of a border and human interaction is pretty universal when it comes to making friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 05:52 PM
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women fare worse after divorce If women fare worse after divorce and the reason for it is not working to raise kids, then its not about man vs woman its about higher earner vs lower/non-earner. A man who is a stay at home dad will suffer just as badly if the wife is the breadwinner because dad will have left the workforce for years to care for the kids while mom kept developing her career the whole time. Its not a gendered issue, its whoever stays home loses in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:28 AM
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Theres a difference between a gold digger and a sahm. The sahm loves you for you, the gold digger just wants your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:49 AM
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passport bro seethe They've got it right but for the wrong reasons. They do it to use relative wealth to get better quality girls than they could back in the west becahse while $900 here gets you a shitty studio apartment, it gets you a beachfront 2 bedroom in thailand. The buck goes further and it becomes incredibly easy to attain social status. All women are similar in nature, so they move abroad to maximize status via wealth and it works. The issue is that theyve never really had much attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:29 AM
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i am blaming no one, i am taking accountability but its the fault of my countrymen because theyre all peaches! You cant keep your story straight, I do not believe you. I dont know how you dont see the contradictions you type out and then try to defend the contradiction without seeing how ridiculous and delusional it is to hold such polar opposite stances. i dont avoid social interaction socializing is hard, what do you say to them? You say i misinterpret things but i dont think I do. You made it…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:25 AM
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I'm not going to get into it with someone this desperate to live in delusion. Go ahead and avoid social interaction, blame it on everyone else and take no accountability. Enjoy the four walls of your room forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:50 AM
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talking to people isnt easy because i dont know what to say Very quickly weve gone from "its my country making it hard" to "its hard for ME because I lack social skills." most people do the thing then leave And youd still have plenty of time to talk to them. Even if its something like bowling where you can be out in 45 minutes you can always chat up the person next to you. You just keep making excuses here. i blamed no one its just super hard in my country because country Lmao totally not blamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:28 AM
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Going out, talking to people, getting contact info and then proceeding to make plans with these people is all it takes. The amount of effort involved is literally "go outside, do thing you like, invite people you met there to do thing with you again next week." This is universal, it works everywhere in the world and its not hard at all. The truth is youre alone because you havent done this, no one but you is to blame. Its not the country, its not the people, the problem is your delusion that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:42 AM
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i want to empathize No, you're making excuses for him to stay shut in. Essentially, youre telling him that the people saying "go outside, theres tons of things you can do" are wrong. You cant go to free events, you cant go to paid ones, its all full of homeless junkies who'll attack you, stay here on the internet and shut in away from the public instead... its fucking disgusting what people like you do with this shit. Actively poisoning someone while taking the moral high ground for it as the em…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:39 AM
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i spend time around people with a net worth of 500M Totally believe you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:32 AM
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Having to make an effort and put time into something doesnt make it hard. Its easy to hammer a thousand nails on a large enough wooden board, its the same motion over and over again, but its still going to take time and manual effort to hammer it in. You refusing to pick up the hammer doesnt make it hard, you're just making up excuses to avoid starting hammering.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:31 AM
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all parks near me are full of homeless people Then do other free shit. Or pay and go places where the homeless cannot afford to go to. Problem solved, but instead you'll find another excuse to not go outside and not socialize. you dont socialize in free activities anymore, theyre just not the place for it Excuse after excuse to not go out. Typical. Free events are for socializing, thats why theyre free, so people will go to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:00 AM
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No its not. Unless youre in north korea and cannot go outside and talk to people freely, anyone can make a social circle for themselves. Its not hard, it just takes time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:16 PM
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there are hotter higher status guys who would trip over themselves to be with beyonce There really arent that many of them, and they can pick literally almost any girl on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:14 PM
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she can have a parade too She can probably have the parade or the top tier guy but not both since most guys in jayzs tier will not accept hoeing around like that gospel rules vanish when inconvenient Wtf are you talking about? Redpill says game, money, status and the gym to boost looks are the equation. If you have no money, then get game and gym to offset. If you have shit looks then get wealth and status. There is no contradiction here. You're thinking blackpill incel speak = trp when its real…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:25 PM
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it doesnt track So being a top 1% wealth, 1% fame, 1% musician doesnt track for you? Are you serious? He may not have the looks but it is undeniable that a triple 1%er is an extremely rare catch. but she makes hundreds of millions too Which means if you dont make hundreds of millions yourself you're probably not in consideration by her. When you limit your dating pool to a fraction of the 1%, and you meet a guy who checks many boxes, yeah she'll probably give you leeway in looks because you chec…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:31 PM
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i cant go anywhere to hang out for free Yes you can and there will even be free events all the time around you. Without events, parks are free and open to the public. my attempts to touch grass have only made it worse Well no shit, if you're limiting yourself to "must be free" then of course you're going to have few opportunities in general. Sign up for a dance class and suddenly, wow, you're meeting people. Go to a bar and unsurprisingly you can talk and hang out with other patrons. Even then, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:46 PM
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You have never hung out with a real chad before and it shows. I had a chad friend back in college and it was amazing seeing how easy he had it compared to the rest. I remember hanging out with a girl who told me she had her nipples pierced, my chad friend came over, i told him about the nipple piercings and though she shot daggers at me visually she flashed us the second he asked her to show him and she proceeded to flirt hard. They wont typically make a first move, but they very enthusiasticall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:33 PM
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how did he get beyonce Hes a world famous multimillionaire celebrity with a ton of status. Was also one of the biggest artists at the time too so there you go. Top 1% on 1% on 1% in many categories. Just because shes a rich celebrity too doesnt mean shes got a massive dating pool, she will likely exclude almost everyone who isnt rich and famous and most of the rich and famous arent exactly angling to date beyonce when they have tons of other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:24 PM
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This isnt outrage culture, its just a chick with dumb takes. Thats not outrage in the comments, you're literally getting clowned nonstop. The only one who appears outraged is you over the fact that youre getting clowned on for a bad take Take the L, flexing that you fuck whores isnt a flex at all and I'd clown you just as hard over it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:44 AM
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TRPs off-reddit site shows kind of what is used to be as its mostly people asking advice all over again minus the WAATGM shitposting (which is just extreme autism repeating the same shit endlessly). But really look around. A lot of "trp" posters here today are actually blackpillers behind a mask. Whereas trp always said its your fault, you need to put in more effort, suddenly theres a big "its over because muh genes" contingent highly reminiscent of a different group. The tradcaths are more open…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:51 PM
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Its really not a host of both. Whats happened is that as mens spaces got banned, everything conglomerated and amalgamated together into a monstrosity of opinions called the manosphere and every single group is under that umbrella. TRP was always about pickup but had originally attracted MRA's who got bullied into irrelevance on reddit. They kept whining about shit like marriage stats and while a nice eye opener really wasnt the point, so a tangent budded off but the core was mostly pick up. Arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:04 AM
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Its not really a bible its more the first major hit that shined a light on PUA. Despite the drama, he does mention that the tips gave him success and he outlined exactly what those were. There really isnt any other big publication that did this at the time while gaining as much traction, so it got "enshrined" there by virtue of being published at the right time. Because of this though its fitting to mention it as the foundation, as its the first point of reference for mainstream trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:36 AM
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Yeah it wasnt really ever about politics. It was all "how to get fuck strangers 101"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:29 PM
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How did progressiveness cause the difference and how did it improve the market given singledom and complaints about the state of the dating market have never been higher? idk who yall is, I'm not american Seems like you do know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:35 PM
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What are you talking about? Ive got dudes telling me its religion and not being progressive thats changed things and I'm saying thats not what caused the changes. My main complaint has really only been "yall are fat as fuck"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:18 PM
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because women have a car and an apt Right, so the views didnt change what she wanted, the economic condition of the average american changed what she wants and can get. You've just conceded the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:58 PM
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its bullshit The amount of single people in this country has gone up, not down. The amount of people complaining about the dating game has gone up, not down. This is true for both sexes. You may dislike what the dating game looked like, you can think your views are great and whatever, but it doesnt change the fact that its all about expectations of daters and the conditions allowing people to meet or not meet those expectations. You can be a fully secular and progressive society, but if the expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:56 PM
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Expectation: house and a car are a must have for men who want a serious relationship. Conditions then: affordable outright in a couple years for the average guy. Conditions now: affordable in two decades for the top third of guys. Whats going to determine a guys chances, the conditions needed to meet expectations or a sudden shift to secularism? The fact that america is religious has nothing to do with expectations of women and conditions of affordability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:30 PM
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you're a religious country California is one of the most secular and progressive states in the world, yet the women there have some of the highest standards for men. Their progressive and secular views did not make the dating game any easier or similar to europe because its conditions, not views that determine the way the game is played. purity, early marriage, slut shaming... how do you expect to get to know people in this suffocating atmosphere? Then why did people have better dating options b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:25 PM
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women are more feminist in europe The bigger the safety net the more feminist they become. Its why you dont see modern feminism in saudi arabia, they have no safety net to engage in it. Groups like pussy riot and femen in eastern europe get international funding, hence why they engage in it, but true believers are rare as there are just too many other practical concerns with day to day living. Feminism is really only a thing when someone can foot the bill for you to play activist. women in EE ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:52 PM
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TRP was always about getting laid. It started with The Game, a book about literally getting game and getting laid, and then came big names like RooshV who wrote about how to get laid in several different countries. The social issues and political issues were tangentially related in MRA and MGTOW communities, but TRP was always about sex. A good portion of posts was field reports, literally "i went on a date/to the club/to the bar, did this and this was what happened, any advice on how to get bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:42 PM
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Its not about secular lifestyle or progressive views. America had an objectively better dating pool before secularism and progressivism, what changed isnt the views what changed was expectations, conditions and individual choice. American expectations went up, conditions didnt change much besides higher expenses to meet those conditions, and individual choices went to shit as people became less fit, less fashionable and less worldly. Thats it, thats the main bulk of change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:35 PM
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is dating more messed up in the us? Yes why not western europe? They dont have a lot of the same issues we do. Income doesnt matter as much in europe because overall salaries are much lower but social services are higher so you dont need to earn as much as you do in the west for the same lifestyle. Travel is cheaper, a flight from madrid to paris can cost as little as $35. You dont need a car because public transport is everywhere and walking many miles a day is normal. Basic education is a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:19 PM
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its about rating the profile as a whole Its not, the sample photos they gave for looks reflect it, common sense supports it and so does their lights out experiment. In the lights out experiment all photos were off, only bios were allowed. Messaging went up for the event but the moment pictures came back up almost everyone ghosted each other, there is no way that with lights always on and no initial message to connect people will result in higher ratings because of text. Your basement dwelling ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:00 PM
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Your standards are way too high or you live in too rural of a location. Theres at least one hot girl to hit on every night, especially if you're in a city.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:50 PM
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but what if you can judge that the red flags are wrong If I see a woman with red flags, I'm not going to take a risk to find out when I can move on to someone with less or no flags instead. Its just not in my best interest to take that risk. is it reliable? If I sell you something and say buyer beware but you can't figure out why I'm warning you, you'd still be hesitant to buy from me. Especially if I'm surrounded by shops selling the same thing without that warning. You're trying really hard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 10:00 AM
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Thats practically everyone. No one cares. If anything this obsession of "you must be interested in why I'm a virgin" is a massive red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:50 AM
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Because whatever reason you have doesnt change the fact that youre a virgin and most people genuinely dont give a shit why something is, it just undeniably is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:34 AM
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there was no rating system There was and it looked like this: https://external-preview.redd.it/kBV0-GMgihWEeVZow-sTuomDleaY2DBjINzNeqmUYd0.png?auto=webp&s=cb2c8a401f5590b5355cf288c475d928daa66f64
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:29 AM
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it doesnt say demographics and sample size It tells you where the data came from though and that sample was massive. Literally hundreds of millions of user interactions are the backbone of the results. Its pretty wild of you to say "no demographics so n = hundreds of millions is trash" The demographics are all users split into male and female. Big group but its still a valid grouping for general trends. https://web.archive.org/web/20130604100500/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:24 AM
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it was a study No it wasnt, it was aggregated user data. There was no study performed, it was literally "so when we look at what tens of thousands of users did unprompted on their own, heres what they chose to do." While there is no sample size given for users, the sample for these is on the side of the blog post, where they say the figures were derived from hundreds of millions of user interactions. https://web.archive.org/web/20130604100500/http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-onli…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:06 AM
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but what if he improved but is still a virgin? The reason isnt important, the perception remains with the label. is it a signal? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:49 AM
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It doesnt say theres something wrong, it says that for some reason either women dont want you or youre isolating from sex. When you think of what those reasons are, theres really not a lot of good ones. Potential red flags that come with male virginity: socially awkward, low social skills in general, minimal friend group, bad flirt, sex will be bad for a while, antisocial, heavily introverted, odd personal interests, heavily religious, very conservative... the list goes on. Most are negative, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:15 AM
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Social rep is a boost but lack of it is not holding you back as much as you think it is. A stranger doesnt care about your social rep because she doesn't know you, probably doesn't know your friends either. Your main struggle is that youre just not approaching enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:53 AM
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Theyll stop giving you shit when you find a girl or can tell them you've been hitting on girls. Dont worry about them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:52 AM
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everyone is cliqued up Then break into their group. Really, be very extroverted, force yourself to talk to more people and dont start with a personal introduction like youre in an interview. If you see a group of 5 guys and 3 girls, talk to the guys to get in that group and start opening more social doors for yourself. Hop around too, break into multiple groups a night and end up with the one you think you vibed with best. Get some numbers, guys and gals, and hang out with them again. my friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:48 AM
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if cold approaching is unacceptable It is acceptable, your first mistake is that youre not even aware of that. pet store girl Its not that its unacceptable, its that if shes not into you it can get weird. Even if you're cool with it, she might not be and she wont tell you up front either that shes weirded out by you coming back after a rejection. My general rule is dont shit where you eat, if you need to go back to that store then dont fuck anyone there. Still, if you're ok with not going back a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:37 AM
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Yeah, I really just cant figure out such obvious sarcasm. Im just not as intelligent as you and clearly would just fuck it up, there would be no context at all to indicate my sarcasm, just awful if I tried... any pointers you could give?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:13 AM
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You clearly dont know what projection is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:05 AM
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These guys are very fucked in the head, borderline sociopathic behavior and zero empathy. They cant fathom that you can both be polite and still get laid, as if talking to the fat girl of the group for 5 mins means the hot one will refuse to fuck you for doing so. High disconnect from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:14 AM
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Hey be reasonable here, its not just she didnt say no, its also "she gets my dick hard"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:11 AM
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People dont swipe on compatibility they swipe on attraction. Its why tinder won out over shit like okcupid which did have a compatibility measure. irl we dont owe anyone politeness or friendship Very normal and not sociopathic way to behave there but ok you need to understand im well within my right to be an asshole And its within the rest of the world's right to disdain you for being an unabashed and self proclaimed asshole, for obvious reasons. men are criticized for treating one stranger well…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:02 AM
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hair skin face and body Body is out since yall are fatter than ever. Hair skin and face? Lmao, being hygienic and taking care of yourself is somehow a massive ordeal now? This is a neckbeard basement dweller tier excuse. "Oh my god guys i have to like shower and use soap and shampoo! Its sooooooo hard!"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:47 PM
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women have to ornate themselves Yet obesity has been skyrocketing, rather than decreasing, so that's not true at all. Not only are you fatter, but you increasingly stain yourself in permanent ink and dress worse than ever before (pajamas in public). Standards went down, not up. makeup, shaving, fashion You dont have to wear makeup at all, you choose to. Shaving is called hygiene, and its not exclusive to women either as men need to trim to keep shapely while also shaving off the excess. Fashion …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:43 PM
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do men really like the submissive type of girl who is agreeable, soft and sweet? Are you joking? Most people, not just men, like someone like this. Most people dont want to be with someone who is disagreeable, hard and sour because why do you want someone prone to make an issue out of simple shit, cant chill and is just unpleasant to be around?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:26 PM
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Yeah thats fine. You get your out when the kids are adults. Seems to me though like youre more trying to poke holes than actually concede
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:23 PM
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2 decades at most At least. You can have an oops when sally is 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:19 PM
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Yes it is, especially when kids are in the picture. Marriage is a contract, it is absolutely normal for parties to a contract to be held liable to their end of the deal. If you dont like the constraints of marriage then the simple answer is dont get married and date indefinitely. Practically any perk from marriage can be contracted out at will without actually needing a marriage. From splitting property to power of attorney to ensure your gf cant be denied hospital entry, joint bank accounts, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:13 PM
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nothing is wrong as long as theres suffering across the aisle This is modern day brain rot talking. It IS wrong that there are more losers generally. It IS bad that more and more instability is the norm. It is REALLY bad when you think of how todays trends show how much worse its going to get for us in the future (see population reduction, increased lifespan and the unsustainability of retirement programs). We went from cooperation to competition and its a massive problem. Its not about equalizi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:44 PM
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there is no real ethical solution There was, and it worked out amazingly. We simply threw it away and traded it for antidepressants and material distractions. The issue is we threw away mutual cooperation in favor of individual safety nets. We dont have to cooperate anymore, because if I fail on my own then I'll be taken care of so we incentivize risky failure over long term stability. now its burst and women can be legally and sexually selective This is just pure fantasy. Marrying for love was …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:37 PM
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Its a really dumb take from people who cant even imagine how disastrous it would be to make this change. You'd be barred from getting student loans until 25 because you'd technically be an incompetent minor, shredding education across the board, and you'd theoretically also be barred from the military. You'd have a bunch of 18-24 year olds unable to do anything besides cheap labor for 6 years, save for the kids of the ultra wealthy who can outright pay for an education. The whole thing is a redd…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:22 PM
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Thats a fair cricitism, but I'm not talking OPs numbers. I was responding to the claim that the rates are irrelevant which is asinine to say when trying to make a choice. Its like comparing two brands for some part, with brand A's parts having more breakdowns than brand B and then saying the rate of breakdown is irrelevant to say one brand makes better parts than the other. divorce rate has been declining It has, but we still gotta find out if that has to do with the marriage rate declining as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 02:46 PM
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divorce rates are worthless They really arent. The reason doesnt change the result: if i want a marriage and one girl is more likely to stay than another, then there you go. people change No, they really mostly dont. Habit is the hardest thing to break. financial imbalance You wouldnt say this at all if it was a marriage between a homeless american woman and an american billionaire. Its ridiculous bs that disregards reality. A foreign woman who marries abroad is not going to be left with nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:49 AM
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At a random point in history? Yeah everyones been oppressed. In modern history? Absolutely not. Its amazing how desperate you are to want to paint your privileged ass as some poor oppressed thing when the same people who were oppressed would kill hundreds to be in your position today.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:33 PM
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Its not like they almost have no understanding of history, they really dont have it at all. They look at victorian nobles and think everyone was just as rich rather than living in borderline abject poverty. Ive got someone right now outright telling me her great grandma was forbidden from marrying for love just before ww1 not realizing that st valentines influence had already spread in america in the early 1800s before grandma was born. The desire to be an oppressed victim outweighs the desire t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:30 PM
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Where was that oppression coming from? The law or the family? Was she actually prevented from eloping, marrying and just moving in with him? What you call oppression is familial concern for your grandmas survival and economic wellbeing. Especially as the average person in history lived on the equivalent to $1.25 today massive societal shift to marrying for love Happened in the early to mid 1800s, so before your great grandma was born. https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/history-romance
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:27 PM
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The gauls were oppressed by the ancient romans almost 2000 years ago. Should we give a shit about that today?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:20 PM
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A story as proof of oppression of a family member, but that oppression didnt happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:18 PM
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she was oppressed before the war "Despite the widespread sentiment against women, particularly married women, working outside the home, women did enter the labor force in greater numbers over this period, with participation rates reaching nearly 50 percent for single women by 1930 and nearly 12 percent for married women." https://www.brookings.edu/essay/the-history-of-womens-work-and-wages-and-how-it-has-created-success-for-us-all/ You could work and be single all you wanted. High income work wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:12 PM
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i did not specify a time period Because if you had to be honest about it you'd have no point to make. You have to look back, real far back, more than 100 years back, because otherwise it just isnt there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:04 PM
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its in living memory So is the invention of television, that still doesnt make tvs a new invention. WW1 is also BARELY in living memory, its a handful of people left from that era since most are 6 feet under by now as that was literally over a century ago. If you were born the very year ww1 ended, you would be 104 years old. dating options were limited This is ridiculous. Id pick having fewer dating options over dying in a war every day of my life. That aint oppression, thats a privilege. its go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:55 PM
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Despite the widespread sentiment against women, particularly married women, working outside the home, women did enter the labor force in greater numbers over this period, with participation rates reaching nearly 50 percent for single women by 1930 and nearly 12 percent for married women. https://www.brookings.edu/essay/the-history-of-womens-work-and-wages-and-how-it-has-created-success-for-us-all/ You were able to work and did so in massive numbers. You are objectively wrong. The limit to high i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:44 PM
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In the grand scheme is broad as hell. Post ww1 is practically a century. A norm thats a century old is good enough, lets not pretend otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:36 PM
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Its good, but its also not new. Theyve had the option to pick men or remain single for decades, its not a modern phenomenon. The pretense that prior to the last 20 years women were forced to marry as if arranged marriage was a thing is ridiculous. You describe america as if it was saudi arabia or india.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:00 PM
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Oh I'm all for it, but it still doesnt fix dynamics. For comparisons sake i ran similar numbers and found that women already have a better pool. 37.1% of men 18-30 are not fat, childless, single and 5'8+. As it stands thats almost 9M dudes for 2.2M women fitting those brackets nationwide. The issue isnt that making it is hard, its that even if you do make it there really arent a lot of options as a reward for the work you put in. If you go by that cohort i mentioned of thin, childless and single…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:55 PM
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the average is fat and broke Its actually well above the average and for both sexes. 69% of american women 18 and older are fat. Dont have the figures for men but their obesity rate is 42.1% (need to add the overweight % for total fatsos) so its likely similar once you add in the overweight but not obese dudes. The main issue is that the juice isnt worth the squeeze for local dating, because if you improve a lot there is a tremendously small pool of men and women who meet the bare minimum standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:40 PM
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Women were not oppressed. Being told by others around you to have a sense of decorum is not oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:31 PM
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Ive had people coming at me for days now desperately arguing that its not their fault that theyre incels because of shit like "its a borderline crime to approach women in public" and "i have autism so you need to be kind and validating instead of telling me its my fault i never put in the effort to figuring out socialization." They really dont want help, they want confirmation that theyve tried hard enough because theyve been rejected before as a socially incompetent, typically fat and unappeali…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:28 PM
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Non-sequitir answer that doesnt explain anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:20 PM
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Karens arent about looks or privileges, theyre really just ridiculous sticklers for rules or just unhinged psychos. My sister was a massive karen at age 24, calling cops on neighbors over noise complaints on new years eve over karaoke and fireworks. Its got nothing to do with privilege, they merely overreact explosively to the slightest inconvenience and that has nothing to do with their looks and everything to do with personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 03:00 PM
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Women in the US are a net tax drain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:54 PM
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Celebrating the destruction of the family is quite sick. Economically, most people need a marriage or they will remain permanent renters who struggle to survive past retirement and will force the next gen to pick up the slack before the whole system is economically unfeasible. Having the freedom to chase isnt the same as actually being able to get and thats where the real issue lies. Being able to play a lottery while depending on winning the lottery to get out of poverty is a disastrous system,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:46 PM
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You keep pivoting back to "its out of my hands" when its not though. i lost 70 lbs during lockdowns but then i gained it back because lockdown didnt end fast enough and i wasnt praised for it socially Its great that you lost the weight, but its not everyone elses fault that you gained it back its yours. Ive never been praised for being skinny, Ive never needed anyone besides me to keep me thin. I dont blame a single person but me for not putting on more muscle. Its not about social praise, its a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:44 PM
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why do they repeat the same talking points? Would you prefer an online hugbox where people confirm your personal failures are all out of your control or do you want to go out and risk failure and rejection consistently? Most people want the hugbox, its why they take offense to "touch grass" so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:32 PM
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Yup its everyone elses fault. Everyone except you is responsible for your choices and failures. Its everyone elses fault that you never put in the work to learn to socialize. Fat? Its the chefs fault for making the food too tasty, not your inability to eat less. You never did anything wrong bud! Isnt it great of me to validate you like this? Just stay home hidden away from the world, because the entire world wants to hurt you, the poor downtrodden and misunderstood protagonist with a heart of go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:24 PM
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car dependent Its never been easier to get around without a car now thanks to services like Uber. people are aging and not finding spaces to talk to others You can talk to anyone anywhere, you dont need to find a space for it. give specific advice Touch grass basically means go outside and thats precisely step 1, but if you dont know how to talk to people and carry on a conversation then start there. Figured that out? Start putting it into practice, anywhere and everywhere. Taking an uber? Good …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:18 PM
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US Census data says of all women aged 18-85, 69% are overweight and obese. So it turns out the only cope was that i thought 3% of women were skinnier than they actually are and my new number should be rounded up to 7/10 instead of 2/3.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:08 PM
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ive been called creepy for the crime of lightly flirting you are taking something explicitly about how others react to you and acting as if your personal opinion is all that matters Self awareness check? You got called a creep for a normal interaction so you view normal interaction explicitly through that lens, acting as if your experience is reflective of everyone elses/society as a whole. You've taken projection and gone societal with it in scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:44 AM
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Its wild, another incel is telling me now that truth is what the majority agrees. As if cigarettes would no longer cause cancer if we all just change our minds suddenly. Its unbelievable how desperate these guys are to avoid taking the first measure of accountability for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:31 PM
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if the majority agrees then its true Turns out cigarettes only caused cancer because we changed our minds. Damn. Society willed cigarette cancer into existence! if the majority agree this behavior is predatory and offensive then it is No it isnt. Its entirely in the mind of the individual recipient. The one who decides if you're creepy or not isnt the people who can see you, its the people you talk to. The world today is not Brave New World or 1984, you're as a matter of fact completely mistaken…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:22 PM
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why do you assume the best? I assume the probable, and whats likely is that she will ignore you or try to get it over with rather than antagonize you and make a scene. Its like when schizos come up to you in public, you dont engage, you mostly just want them to go away or you walk away from them and just end it there. Do some bust out a phone for views? Sure, but thats not the majority. Most people, men and women, dont want a scene because the path of least resistance is to ignore and wait for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:14 PM
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Its not the they forget its that they delude themselves into thinking its not viable anymore because they dont go out enough. Ive got an incel spam replying me essentially alleging that the government, court system, police and academia will ruin you for doing an approach. When told that he is not describing reality he said im rude because i didnt validate and coddle him since i told him autism isnt an excuse for refusing to learn to socialize in real life. Cornered, he settled with "tell me your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:43 PM
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Its US Census data. The cohort mentioned is roughly 2.2M women nationally so theres 44,000 women aged 18-30 who are thin, unwed, childless, 5'3-6'1, of any income bracket per state assuming equal distribution. Passport bros have the right conclusion but for the wrong reasons, the US is essentially a demographic nightmare for any single dude who isnt fat and broke. The variance in percentage was due to my personal preference. I want kids that look like me so my cohort was hispanic and white women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:21 PM
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I dont care for most women, theres a few good ones but the search for them is abysmal. Same for dudes, but since Im not trying to bang them camaraderie is easier to get. This has zero impact on my sex life, its really easy to get laid (especially as a highly social person) but it fucks my dating life because few people of both sexes can meet dirt low standards. Only 7.8-9.5% of women aged 18-30 are skinny, childless and single with a height of 5'3-6'1 so demographically there are almost few wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:36 PM
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women have raised standards Economically maybe, but the real redpill is that increasing amounts of men and women dont meet dirt low standards. Dont be fat is a dirt low standard, but it alone kills around 2/3rds of the entire american dating pool. The problem isnt really that standards are up, its that fewer and fewer people can do the bare minimum for themselves every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:19 PM
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You definitely sound like you're huffing fumes alright
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:14 PM
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im a friendless incel because I'm ugly, not because i dont go outside! i socialize exclusively online and approach social interaction as if I'm committing a crime, but its my looks holding me back! This is just monumental copium. whats your grooming, weight, dress like? Bro you say this as if you have no control over these things when theyre the first things you can get under control. So what this tells me is that you dont even groom yourself, keep fit or dress well on top of approaching sociali…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:13 PM
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An ad campaign is not institutional, literally anyone can pay for those. Even if they were government sponsored, there is no legal repercussion to just talking to people. I tell you that youre making excuses and you rush to find more and more excuses. I dont know how you can be so delusional and in complete denial of reality like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:09 PM
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the messages are real and backed by institutions who are threatening to consider me an abusive man! Yes, you are terminally online. Those messages are real, but they dont describe reality. There are plenty of messages about the wage gap, but we all know the wage gap is not real. You can print out your own ads, put them in town if you want, but that wont make them true. You keep making excuses to not go outside, you are very much exclusively socializing online. I couldnt be more spot on about you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:07 PM
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You're not being empathetic, understanding or validating! Of course not, I'm not going to lie to you and nurture your delusions. Its actually quite worrying that your response to being told that its nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be is "Youre a dick for telling me it can be better if I put in genuine effort." Literal manchild syndrome. if I'm making excuses then so are women! Lmao are you 12? funny how its a systemic issue when its happening to a woman Your entire unhinged rant has no…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:01 PM
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this has become institutional No it really hasnt. Unless you're explicitly sexually harassing someone, nothing will happen to you. This is catastrophising because you went to extreme catastrophe for just saying hi to someone. You wont be put on blast, arrested, fired or barred from universities. Everything you've said here is pure delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:09 PM
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see how easy it is to classify that as problematic behavior? All I'm seeing is you coming up with an excuse to not approach. If you're grinding your dick on her ass unprompted thats a bit different, but if its just two step or salsa or whatever, then its fine. No one will care. i fucked up an approach now im a borderline criminal creep Delusion. You are not describing reality. B-b-but im autistic! Im socially stunted! Its on you to catch up but you dont even want to begin catching up, you're her…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:34 PM
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its the feminist rhetoric! its because you break the rules! you're going to be made subject to lawsuits and arrests! Tell me you dont go outside without telling me you dont go outside. This is terminally online nonsense. You wont get arrested or sued for hitting on a woman. Youre not breaking any rule by talking to people in public. If feminist rhetoric stops you from socializing, thats your own fault. And yes, a lot of dudes i see that just chat women up are fucking weird! They have no clue how…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:27 PM
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people chat and make small talk all the time Yeah but thats still making an approach. And a ton of dudes here hold the belief that an approach is some cardinal sin when it really boils down to just say hi and have a conversation. If you click then shoot your shot if you want, if you dont then whatever you had a decent chat (and maybe finally found the one cafe with what I'm after) The main issue on PPD is the lack of nuance. Almost everything is theory, and almost no reality is taken into accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:34 AM
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It can sound pretentious but its just what I like. I grew up in a country where we grow some of the strongest coffee in the world, a quadruple espresso at the local coffee place doesnt come close to a single shot of what Im used to in terms of caffeine kick or that really bitter/sour flavor. Stuff here in the US tastes more watered down despite not actually being watered down. Its not something I'm super knowledgeable about, and I dont try to be pretentious about it either, I always explain that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:28 AM
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you usually grow resentful Right, but thats a matter of frequency. If your boss often listens to you, incorporates your ideas and values your contributions you usually dont become resentful, even if the boss sometimes doesnt defer to your contributions. Thats what a healthy relationship looks like even if you gave someone else that veto power. If youre deferring to a guy who doesnt listen, and doesnt let you influence any decision then you shouldnt be there. Thats not an issue with being submiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 09:14 AM
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but shes got all these matches and dms And they never go anywhere. The reality for most people is that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. A person, in front of me at a bar or club or a cafe is that bird in the hand because shes right there. my sister makes no effort online Yet she probably dates people shes met in person, who approached her and actually did something with her in the real world. The best thing you can do for your dating life is to go out more, a lot more! The real probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:34 AM
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you accept that someone is basically always right and you must be viewed as less capable, smart or rational Not really. This is a lot of theory but not a lot of reality. I can view myself as more capable, more intelligent and more rational than my boss at work but I know I still have to defer to my boss' decisions even if I disagree with them. I can also still think I'm better than the boss and think hes a good boss for listening to me. I dont have to put myself down or feel inferior to my dumb …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:26 AM
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The video is pretty useful in seeing why a lot of guys really fail and why the apprehension is so high, they just cant make it look natural. Personally I wouldnt go with that opener, Id just ask her about the bag directly since that works as an anchor but thats just me. Im more of a to the point, less room for error kind of guy Ive seen the same irl in my friend group. At the club and theyre all wondering how to approach for a half hour meanwhile my answer is "just take her hand and dance, she'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:12 AM
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Im going to completely agree as a man. I have never had an issue approaching because I always look for an anchor to not make it weird. Even in public transit it works, I once got a girls number on the subway just because i asked her about a six pack of craft beer that she had with her. The problem is that people are told "go approach" and then do shit like this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pfd2rcXZjEM&feature=youtu.be Thats an actual guy who paid for redpill coaching and you can see why hes fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:31 AM
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I didnt mean you personally when i say no one cares who to have sex with, that statement holds up even if I'm addressing anyone, but ok. proof A couple clips and morons is not proof. I can link to a post full of schizophrenics but that doesnt serve as proof that most people are schizos you called my credibility into question I think you did that yourself arguing about how we should be allowed to launch retaliatory false allegations. you said that not me! Well how the hell do you equalize sentenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:00 AM
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I highly doubt it since you apparently have trouble with cohorts and percentages, literally the easiest part of stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:37 AM
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The funniest part about a shitpost like this is that going outside is the best way to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:18 PM
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im not sure how statistics work Yeah, thats par for the course for most of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:13 PM
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I dont know, psychiatrists are a pretty new concept that never existed before so I'm a bit skeptical
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:11 PM
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selfishness is encouraged now But it isnt, your entire point is link after link showing its hated not encouraged. who needs to go outside beside yourself You say this as if going outside is a bad thing lmao you proved my point the selfish man is new yes its as old as ancient rome but its still new and proves my point Are you ok? Do you have brain damage? Should we call the nice doctor to help you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:55 PM
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the selfish man is a new concept Completely delusional take, the disdain for bachelors is as old as ancient rome who literally imposed a bachelor tax. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:43 PM
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https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2021/demo/age-and-sex/2021-age-sex-composition.html Then have fun with a calculator to get a number almost identical to what i gave you. Oh, unless you were just being bad faith this whole time... cool, cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:35 PM
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source source source Literally the first result on google, go wild https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2021/demo/age-and-sex/2021-age-sex-composition.html if she doesnt stay thin Youre really desperate for a win here thats just not coming. Yeah you get uglier when you get fatter, you also get a pass during and after pregnancy because eating for two is different when you're pregnant and when you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:30 PM
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so youre just making shit up No, I thought you were someone else asking for a different set of data. I did not make up US Census data, anyone can look that up (yourself included) Men in that age range are about 10-12% of the total population and when you apply the above disqualifiers you get approx 3.7-4% of the total population. By comparison, women in the equivalent disqualifier categories and age bracket would then be just at or under 1% of the total population (since thay age bracket is also…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:22 PM
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Im not doing all that work to get an exact figure to prove something this readily apparent. Youd have to have an extreme amount of marriage and single motherhood to bridge an almost extra 50% total for the same cohort abroad to make it equal to the US while we know generally age of first marriage is going up and birth rate is down. Its too much effort and all we know points to foreign markets being nowhere close to this bad. Obesity rate alone gives us an extra 20% in options compared to america…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:04 PM
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If shes worth it then keep her, meeting the bare minimum doesnt mean youre stuck there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:58 AM
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It doesnt at all, this is all census data including what they classify as overweight and obese. but what happens when your wife gets fat from pregnancy Nothing, and it has nothing to do with the topic. can you back this data up? Us census survey
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:55 AM
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Noooooo you cant point out the flaw in my statements! its imaginary theres no way anyone can logically come to your same conclusions! 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:52 AM
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The benefit is there but its not for you. Marriage has never been about the two people marrying its always been about the kids they have. Its why bastards werent recognized as family, because theyre not of the marriage and were not protected like the children of marriage were. A traditional marriage is not about you, and its not about me, its about the kids. If thats not your priority, then its not for you. Low body count is a plus, regardless of his belief, because you still have higher odds at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:37 AM
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look people on the internet said Meanwhile, in reality, no one cares that you're dating a foreigner. No one is going to go up to you irl and call you a sex trafficker for dating a thai girl. I say you're terminally online and all you can bring is just more online shit. Unless shes underaged, no one is concerned about who is fucking who. point out where i said I never said you were a passport bro i said you're firing up the political activist larp and that's exactly what you did. touch grass is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:16 AM
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men are never not rational Really strong assumption there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:55 AM
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it includes married women It doesnt, you can exclude married women from the results and i did exclude them. I know its only 8% of the age cohort that i specifically put, thats still my dating pool because I'm not going after the rest, reasonably so given my own age. Only 9.5% of women my age (and younger) of any race are thin, unmarried, childless and between 5'3-6'1. how are you mining? Just because you fit the bare minimum of standards doesnt make you good enough. If your standard was 6'0 and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:46 AM
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cant make money or be a certain race A minimum income of $0 doesnt mean she cant make money, it means shes includes in the small dating pool despite making no money. I can raise the number but if I do the dating pool shrinks further. must be thin Whats wrong with wanting someone thats healthy? specific race Making it all races ups it to 9.5% so we dont even hit double digits. For comparisons sake, the same data for men but with the height range being 5'8+ gives you 37.1%, over 4x the options. yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:22 AM
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Census data calculator
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:15 AM
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all men think like i do any disagreement is womanly + main character syndrome Spoken like the real protagonist there bud
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:35 PM
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not being a fat ass is an inflated standard because only a handful of us have portion control Yeah, this is totally the sick burn you think it is. Saying its close to impossible for you to not be a disgusting tumbling lard is really ripping the skinnys a new one, how will we ever recover.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:31 PM
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They made it out so theyre probably fine now, though it cant be easy starting from scratch somewhere in EU (dont know if still in poland or not, i dont keep up with exes). It is what it is, i dont really fault her at all for picking the lives of her parents over a relationship. Id have done the same tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:49 PM
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Ive got English, Spanish fluency and a bit of french. I'm not fat, never have been, and am already quite social. Getting laid for me isnt hard, even if shes skinny, problem is the few skinnies around arent necessarily good. Like i said, that shit it the bare minimum and the problem is just how few meet the bare minimum. Ive dated foreign before and probably wont go back, its like having to choose between color and black and white, in picking color.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:47 PM
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this is standing up to the slander! What slander? The majority of reactions are exactly what i said theyd be, except for one or two angry women nobody else gives a shit that you're going abroad to get pussy. Literally no one. You can be calm, rational and just bring up shortcomings of dating locally or you can pull out this revolutionary larp that is frankly embarrassing to read. public opinion is bad because we kept quiet for so long! The MRAs have been at it for decades and public opinion of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:42 PM
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So at at least 5'8, 18-30, any race, no kids, no ring, not fat at any income level, women will meet an up to par guy 37.1% of the time. So a bit over every third guy is up to par by those standards. Pretty good odds, and given how close it is to the original set, we can comparatively conclude women have around 4.2-4.5x more choice than men for the same bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:29 PM
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that age range is the total dating pool Yeah, marriage goes up with age so the stat goes down if the range expands. So what? I'm not dating 80 year olds so why would I include them in my range? I dont get your objection here, of course id set an age limit, choosing to not date 76 year olds while I'm in my late 20s is a petty reasonable exclusion. whats the relevance? When were talking about just how bad the market is, its relevant to analyze the market. How would that not be relevant? the releva…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:09 PM
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Its why I'm all for dating abroad, you just cant beat those odds. Shoot for 10% and whittle it down till you find something decent or go abroad where every other girl is on par with the best back home? Its not even a question
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:42 PM
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I grew up by the beach, i know beach body ready when i see it. Agree though, theres a lot of people on reddit who've got some serious issues with their eyesight
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:40 PM
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im Portuguese and live in the UK I may not be a fan of american girls but jesus my dude you went deeper down the hole with british girls! Theyre so bad even amsterdam, degen city, told them to stay home. Ive heard horror stories you're not with your girl Well yeah, she prioritized getting her family away from russian bombs over a relationship. I wouldnt hold that against anyone and i would have made the same choice in her position. Youd have to be seriously fucked up to just leave your family be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:35 PM
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Its ironically my biggest headache, i can find plenty of hot skinny to fuck but so little worth keeping around =/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:02 PM
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Absolutely, you have to have a really thorough vetting process and you really need to be sure that shes not just tolerating you for a greencard. I'm not making moral judgments, I'm making objective ones at least regarding what they bring to the table. They bring a lot of old school perks that are just gone in the west with locals bringing a supplementary income instead. Totally agree that its not just "well what are you gonna do for me" you have to have a genuine thing, and a good way to do that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:00 PM
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Oh i agree, the market is beyond trash, its why my opening argument is that if you're going to play the odds you might as well go international. Better choice, similar odds of catastrophe (i think its like 4% less likely odds at divorce so basically the same). A good way to put the "unreasonable" view is water. Flint michigans water is unreasonably bad, i wouldnt say the expectation of clean water is unreasonable though, especially when we can make it happen pretty easily. The market for water t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:48 PM
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it cant be reasonable if it functionally does not exist But it does exist, and the barrier to it is just lack of will. Anyone can become thin, without exercise, if they just diet accordingly. It is a reasonable to say "i as a thin person want a thin person" and "becoming thin is easily attainable." skinny people are unicorns We need a weight tax so fucking badly in this country. Yeah, the odds are pretty shit, still its mostly semantics on is losing weight reasonable. I think it is but my soluti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:25 PM
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Thats just hysteria that should be ignored, dumb takes arent worth taking seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:15 PM
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census data cannot be taken seriously Lmao no. Like with women, "dont be fat" is just slashing a ton of men out of the pool and thats a very reasonable demand for thin women to have. Include obese and watch that number skyrocket and then we get to the crux: you either have to lower a reasonable standard that you fit (being thin) or youre unrealistically not lowering your standard since youre opppsed to dating within your standard (you're both fat) but dont like reality. If you're thin in america…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:12 PM
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The people claiming human trafficking cant prove trafficking at all. Most of these dudes stay abroad! The women never leave so they are never trafficked. The ones that do fly back to the states also arent inherently trafficked until they prove coercion, fraud or force, and if they get legally married than thats really hard to prove. What they think is trafficking is actually just soliciting prostitution abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:11 PM
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For someone espousing logic and rationality you really seem to be wanting to miss the logical and rational conclusion there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:09 PM
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It is a realistic expectation. Just. Stop. Stuffing. Yourself. Its that easy and everyone, man or woman, can do it. Its not unreasonable for either sex to say its realistic to expect their partner to put the fork down. it would be hypocritical to call women unreasonable for 6 foot and 6 figures Not really, because you're comparing apples to oranges. It would be hypocritical for me to say fat men can reasonably demand thin women and I'll tell you right now that they absolutely cannot. For compari…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:07 PM
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A few women care but the vast majority (99%+) dont and for good reason, the competition is literally half a world away. A lot of passport bros are showboating to try and change local womens behavior by threatening to leave but its just not going to work and is men coping and seething. the stats suck I know, its why I'm all for passport bro-ing without making a show of it. Its a lot more serious of a time, money and relationship investment than these guys think it is, but its doable if you're ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:57 PM
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The burden is on you to prove that men flying abroad to solicit prostitution are doing more than soliciting prostitution (which may even be legal in some countries), and that the men in relationships are actually being deceitful, coercive or forcible. You additionally have to prove the trafficking element of human trafficking, otherwise it doesnt even come close. This task is obviously impossible for you to do. You may be trying to compare this to Tate who DID traffick people as he moved girls a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:48 PM
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human trafficking, also called trafficking in persons, form of modern-day slavery involving the illegal transport of individuals by force or deception for the purpose of labor, sexual exploitation, or activities in which others benefit financially. - Brittanica.com The dudes going abroad to have actual relationships are not human traffickers, especially if they plan to marry these women and start families as there is no force or deception, they have fully legitimate desires to have a real relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:42 PM
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Male reality calculator using census and nchs data: https://realitycalc.com/ Forgot to add that i excluded black and asian women since I'm castizo and want kids that look like me so i went with white and hispanic women as the groups i focused on but it doesnt really help, women of all races just bumps the same range from 7.87% to 9.5%. The major exclusion really comes from "dont be fat" and "dont be married/mom" which apparently slices the dating pool to just shy of 1/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:36 PM
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Ive actually seriously dated foreign girls who came to the us for school. The exploitation really isnt happening to these women. Theres two types of bros: type 1 is the starstruck tourist who gets fleeced and conned by working girls giving a nice girlfriend experience to a moron who thinks its real. The exploitation there is actually done by them to the idiot tourist and happens a lot in the caribbean, south america and thailand. Type 2 is the actually mutually beneficial arrangement. The guy ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:25 PM
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You can rationalize away disgust and drink piss in a survival situation, but its still going to be disgusting and unpleasant no matter how you slice it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:10 PM
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Women aged 18-30 who are not overweight, ummarried, childless, with a height between 5'3 and 6'1 and an income at $0 or more constitute 7.87% of the american dating pool. These are some of if not the lowest and most reasonable standards a man could have when dating and this is all prior to accounting for actual looks, personality and compatibility. If you're a guy its simply in your best interest to date abroad, otherwise your only other option is to aim for the 4/50 women who meet the lowest st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:06 PM
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emotions should be rational Most human redditor
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:45 PM
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just drop your standards and take in the dislikes You see how this just proves the point though right? If I as a man don't lower those standards there realistically are so few options that you're screwed. Women arent expected to have to date a fixer uper, so why am I expected to? i don't get why you're so hung up on it I just dont like it, why is that not valid? I think I'm being extremely reasonable too, essentially the standard i have is be skinny, practically any height not bordering midget a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:49 PM
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but the men are fat too! Its a nice whataboutism but doesnt change the fact that dirt low standards shred over 90% of a mans dating pool. So yes, a man MUST lower his already bottom of the barrel standards to widen that pool because you otherwise have almost no options. why do these fat fucks believe their standards start with a skinny woman? I'm skinny so id say I'm justified in wanting the same. Being skinny is also a low standard, putting the fork down is not a big ask. I will agree though, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:47 PM
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As a guy you absolutely have to lower your standards in america and the ones you have to lower are already so low they're barely an inch off the ground. If I say I want just a normal, skinny girl that fucking decimates the dating pool. Around 2/3rds of american girls are overweight and/or obese, so the just be skinny standard is enough to cut me down to 1 in 3 girls. Toss out the myriads of girls left with a billion piercings and tattoos plastered all over and that number keeps on being shredded…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:07 PM
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