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As others have pointed out, these are all poor tips. If you want advice on hunting, ask the hunter, not the deer.
/r/seduction24/08/18 01:50 AM
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You can always lead by example, as long as you aren't steamrolling or giving a Ted Talk on things. Maybe she's just not that deep, or needs to feel more comfortable to open up? Also, some people are just boring. That's what a second date is for, you can feel it out again and see if you're getting the same response. If it goes the same way, your options are to stop making an effort to see her and look at other options. You have to determine if your time is worth being bored being around someone. …
/r/seduction16/02/18 12:01 PM
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Yep, invite one of her friends. Not her closest friend - that would cause a rift, but one close enough to make her jealousy radar go off.
/r/seduction04/08/17 05:30 PM
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You can be a calm guy and still tell an exciting / interesting story though, if not about yourself, at least about something you read / heard recently, etc. You'd have to be decent on the details and be interesting when talking, but you don't have to be Jim Carrey to employ the technique.
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:11 AM
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you could respond jokingly: "My friends say that you" That's a hell of a cliffhanger, if intentional, that's a pretty sure bet to get a reply.
/r/seduction17/02/17 05:48 AM
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This could have been a direct quote from Mark on Peep Show.
/r/seduction16/02/17 06:43 AM
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I've only seen her a few times, just at a party then at my friend's house another time. There is your problem really, ask her out, be alone, be somewhere semi romantic, etc. Behind someones house when you are drunk doesn't always mean you are reading the signals and vibes right.
/r/seduction16/02/17 06:42 AM
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Then work on being better at leading conversations? Not everything has a cut and dry answer and you have to be good at improvising. However, if you have things in common, why would you be struggling for conversation topics? Those ARE conversation topics.
/r/seduction18/10/16 05:19 AM
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Did you even read what I wrote? You use school as the opener to the convo as you 100% know you have that in common and know almost zero else about them (other than lets say, if she had on a band T-shirt).
/r/seduction18/10/16 05:09 AM
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NP, lol, I had a suspicion it was app related.
/r/seduction18/10/16 01:07 AM
8

Hey guy, instead of responding to comments, you're just posting these as additional comments on your post. Nobody can see who you are replying to.
/r/seduction18/10/16 12:07 AM
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Walk up to or sit beside girl that you've heard talk in class and seems like she would be chill or has a similar mindset as you. Start talking about class or something due. See if she's receptive or standoffish. Start talking about other stuff, see if that goes anywhere. Either repeat on different days when you see her again, or just go ahead and ask if they want to hang out. The key is being honest with yourself, is she actually into talking to you, or is she just "tolerating" you? If it's #1, …
/r/seduction18/10/16 12:06 AM
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Thanks, trust me, if there is a mistake, I've made it at some point, lol.
/r/seduction13/10/16 06:29 AM
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Worst case I figured she would say she can't that day and I could keep suggesting. Nope. Ask what her schedule is like, and see if you can agree on a date. Never keep suggesting, it signals neediness and that you aren't busy doing interesting things.
/r/seduction12/10/16 09:09 AM
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"just let me know whenever you're ready" OOF, lol. I felt that one, that was a flashback to making the same mistake. Every time I've left it open ended like that it's fallen apart.
/r/seduction12/10/16 09:08 AM
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"Hey, I've been wanting to check out the XYZ, do you want to tag along? Cool, what's your schedule like? Awesome, Thursday at 8 works, I'll see you / pick you up then." That is a casual first date. If they are interesting / cool, then take them on a more advanced date, or more low-key interesting dates if you are still feeling it out. Bad first dates: movies, dinner. Never bring flowers or drop serious money, save that for a LTR or special occasion.
/r/seduction12/10/16 09:03 AM
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If I don't hear back after a discussion, I wait a week, sometimes more depending on how much I already have going on. I keep them in mind in the future, but some of my best dates and LTR have come from people I didn't hear back from, and hit up a year later out of the blue. If they seem the least bit interested (be honest with yourself), then I do hit them up a week or so after the first time. If that's a no go or feels cold, I just stop communication and let them simmer indefinitely.
/r/seduction12/10/16 08:58 AM
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Agreed, but at this point I don't even put the "bad" in there. I usually go with "No worries, maybe another time then." I feel like saying that you wish they could come or that it's a "bad" thing they can't come is almost signaling that your enjoyment was dependent on them coming, and not that it's going to be fun regardless. However, it's definitely dependent on what kind of personality the person has as well, and how receptive they seem about the whole thing. I'm more jokey / teasing if we hav…
/r/seduction12/10/16 08:51 AM
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What guys get upset when someone says, "Hey I'm going to X, you should come with!"? I'd have to agree, they sound pretty douchey.
/r/seduction12/10/16 08:41 AM
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Definitely agreed, after lots of experience with both as well. It's way easier to avoid flakes exactly like you laid out: "What day (or night) are you free next?" Oh cool, I'm (insert cool thing going on that night or thing you could be doing - she doesn't have to know you weren't 100% on doing it yet) Invite her to go with you Also, speaking of flakes, if she does flake at any point, just say "Cool, maybe another time then" and leave it at that. Trying to reschedule right then or asking when sh…
/r/seduction12/10/16 08:30 AM
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Nah, that's essentially what you said, in the context of the situation between you and this person. The strategy is that if she's busy you live your life, and optimally, sleep with other people while this thing does or doesn't pan out. From your earlier comment: But obviously we do care about when she actually is free because we're on a seduction forum discussing practical ways to get laid. You don't speak for everyone here, and you sound a little inexperienced (IMO). In this situation, I don't …
/r/seduction12/10/16 08:23 AM
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you have no flexibility in asking when she is free This statement is projecting some neediness. In reality, who cares when she's free next, do you really need to know right that second? Talk to her again in a few days or a week and see if she wants to do something else interesting. If not, move on. Why are you making yourself flexible to someone else, without them doing the same for you? Now, if you have someone who is extremely interested in seeing you, they might contact you or bring up hangin…
/r/seduction12/10/16 08:15 AM
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I'd say nearly 100% could and should be worded differently, and tailored to the person you are talking to. However, it's easier to remember things off a list like this, vs a carefully worded perfect question that might not work from one person to the next. So, for: What three things would you bring to a deserted island? You can just remember "desert island" and fit it in a lot more casually than a straight up list of questions. So you're talking about music, then you can segue into "OK, so lets …
/r/seduction04/10/16 04:20 AM
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Maybe, the humor in it (esp the last line) is the type of story that connects with people that have either been there recently or in the past, or who could avoid being there by reading it. I've definitely blew multiple situations like this where I was like "look, it's not hard, you do this punches keys and then this clicks mouse." When she follows it up with "This is harrrrrrrrrrrd" then I'm getting annoyed when I'm overlooking that I'm the person she contacted to help her (and not in a user typ…
/r/seduction16/09/16 01:12 AM
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I'll bet the poster / author is a man, but if not, I agree it's not a great list. It's a basic list you can gather from any Google search on the internet.
/r/seduction16/09/16 01:08 AM
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Not the guy you replied to, but this has worked in many situations for me, even at house parties, etc. It's the same thing as what guys do in movies when they say "Hey, do you want to get out of here?" but in real life it takes a slight bit more finesse (IMO) if you aren't a George Clooney type. There is a laundry list of excuses you can make to get someone to hang out with you one on one: To go outside and smoke, to go smoke a joint, to go get more beer, to go get some coffee, to go for a drive…
/r/seduction16/09/16 01:04 AM
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Hilarious story, that should be it's own post. It's way more beneficial to readers here when real world stories (good or bad) show an actual situation happening, and not some sort of meet-cute movie flirt scene like OP's book marketing.
/r/seduction16/09/16 12:54 AM
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How can you tell she's into you? She gives you info you already knew while trying to sell you a book. Definitely into you, bro.
/r/seduction16/09/16 12:50 AM
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As a person who has experienced a certain degree of trauma and some emotional scars So I called it, you are replying from a place that is not unbiased, it is colored with your past experiences, which showed through in your previous comment as a passive-aggressive / semi-childish response. Again, literally the point of OP's image and the comment you originally replied to. The parent level comment used language that advocated ignoring emotional responses You realize what sub you are posting in, no…
/r/seduction21/07/16 02:45 AM
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sometimes other people are correct This quote isn't about being correct or incorrect, it's about keeping your reaction on an even keel because the other person is usually acting out of emotion, and not from a logical part of their thoughts. Everyone does it at some point, so the thought is to essentially remain calm in the face of someone projecting, because that projection is rooted in past issues that you had no hand in and really can't change for them. For example, if I forgot to bring the tr…
/r/seduction21/07/16 12:30 AM
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My mistake for not correctly understanding the noble methods of seduction The passive aggressiveness here is an example of the OP's image / post. The guy literally just explained to you in an informative and calm manner, and you come back with sarcasm about the "noble methods of seduction." It really shows a lot about you as a person if you can't just own up to not understanding and thanking the person. I was addressing the language he used, but I misunderstood the message. My mistake. ...would …
/r/seduction21/07/16 12:23 AM
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I'm being brutally honest here, so bear with me. Mine has been losing weight. I wasn't huge (always bigger than most of my friends though, which is alienating sometimes), but being 6 feet tall, it wasn't really much of an issue with women. Early on I learned humor / sarcasm / playful banter, and what type of person it clicked with, so getting laid / numbers / etc. has never been an overall issue. I ran circles around skinny friends who had zero game. Now that I'm in my mid-30s, and a lot more...…
/r/seduction19/02/16 07:40 PM
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narcissistic people out there like me lol who If you want people to take your sentiments seriously, don't use "lol" 4 times in your post when it's not a comical story. It gives an air of not being confident in your statements.
/r/seduction11/11/15 08:59 PM
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OP
/r/seduction10/11/15 10:07 PM
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Unfortunately, no. I'm on the boring end of the state.
/r/seduction01/10/15 05:03 AM
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Virginia
/r/seduction01/10/15 04:06 AM
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Grow your hair out and look swarthy. Think Sayid on Lost vs. Dinesh on Silicon Valley, which one seems more worthy of a ladies time? Have some cool hobbies / things about you. Dress nice. Smell good. Work on your wordsmithing as you go.
/r/seduction17/09/15 01:56 AM
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Stop putting an apostrophe at the end of etc.
/r/seduction17/09/15 01:52 AM
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Please don't take social advice from a person with the username "bloody cunt." A "What's up" will work in 99% of cases, the other 1% are bloody cunts.
/r/seduction22/08/15 05:04 PM
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"Hey! I've been out doing (insert fun activity) so I haven't been on much, what's been fun in your world lately?"
/r/seduction22/08/15 05:03 PM
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That's the classic Han Solo frame. "I love you." "I know."
/r/seduction29/07/15 02:58 AM
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It took a long time when I was younger to realize that. Oh, the time wasted. I didn't realize that the faster you realize it and move on, the sooner you are meeting a new person that you might click with at a faster rate.
/r/seduction29/07/15 02:57 AM
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It sounds like something that Bobby Bottleservice from Kroll Show would say.
/r/seduction29/07/15 02:55 AM
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Bro, slut shaming is where you blame someone to their face or in the media for their sexual activity. Having the hickeys and the WAY she was talking about it is why he left, reread it again and enjoy your downvotes.
/r/seduction26/06/15 06:02 PM
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The answer you don't want to hear, is that they met someone they are more attracted to in that time, and are fucking them.
/r/seduction26/06/15 09:13 AM
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It could be bad pictures or just the people who use Tinder in your town. Almost nobody uses Tinder in my town, and the ones that do are all at a college 45 minutes away, so they really aren't in the same dating scene I would be in, so it's almost a moot point to use it.
/r/seduction26/06/15 09:13 AM
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Here's the thing, it doesn't fucking matter. True, you could have done something wrong, or done something better, but you'll never find out from that person the real reason. Even if they told you, it could have been something completely different and they were just being nice. I consider every date (that doesn't end in sex) to be the first and last and if something happens from it, awesome, if not, no big deal, not everyone is a great match. If you're asking how you can get a second date with th…
/r/seduction26/06/15 09:11 AM
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Also, it's hard to get to know someone that well at a restaurant. The waiter / bread person / water re-filler is interrupting every 2 minutes, plus picking out the food and ordering, then you have your mouth full of food, then paying for it, it's constant distractions. It's easy to navigate when you are comfortable with someone or just on a second or third date, but I rarely go straight to dinner anymore. It's not impossible, it's just a lot of money (as you mentioned) for very little interactio…
/r/seduction26/06/15 09:04 AM
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i dont see how hes bragging. Other than this sub, I rarely, if ever mention success with women, how many people I've slept with, etc on Reddit. It gets instant downvotes even if I mention it as a side note to something else (and get snide comments). Reddit overall hates success with women deep down, because most of the people are either not getting laid, or think that it's dishonest somehow, even if you're the upfront type. I even see it in this sub. The guy that commented above somehow can't se…
/r/seduction26/06/15 08:56 AM
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Read the book. That's not a slam, it's just a good book to read, also, Models, by Mark Manson. The reason no cuddles is he stood up for himself, she was like nice job, pats him on the head, and cuddles with him instead of him keeping in frame and asking when she's moving out, etc. Cuddles are for closers.
/r/seduction25/06/15 05:56 AM
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I mean, a few hate fucks as you shuttle each others stuff out of the shared domicile, fine, but cuddles? TL;DR Nice guy read nice guy book, cried through his triumphant stand, and immediately gave back in.
/r/seduction24/06/15 10:50 PM
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One good tip I read somewhere (probably posted on here) was to ask "why" someone did something instead of just requesting facts about a specific trip (for example). "How long did it take to get there?" is a valid question, but is only good for a one sentence reply. "What made you want to go there" starts to open up the person to see their passions and reasoning, that kind of thing. Then you also get a chance to do the same about a similar thing you are passionate about.
/r/seduction30/05/15 12:31 AM
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Nah, you're a fuccboi
/r/seduction01/05/15 08:04 AM
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Nope. I had the name before them though. I heard it's become abandonware, so good luck with that. I'd suggest Adobe Premiere, which used to be Cool Edit.
/r/seduction25/04/15 08:50 PM
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Right, but in my experience, a lot of them are ADHD. I usually stop and ask, I have about a 99.9% successful guess rating so far. They tend to also interrupt over and over with things that are unrelated to the conversation, which is rude. If they just want to hear themselves talk, I have to make a rational choice on if I'm going to bail or grin and bear it if I think that it's going in a sexual direction. Doubtful you are going to get a meaningful connection from someone that behaves like this, …
/r/seduction25/04/15 07:33 PM
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If a girl is an interrupter, I call her on it. I ask her if she's going to keep interrupting me when I talk (but in a more playful way). If it keeps happening I get a little more firm and ask why she feels the need to keep doing that. If it keeps going, I bail or if it's a date, I just don't hang out with them again. I'm all for people being excited or whatever, but cutting off every sentence of mine with inane chatter is rude as fuck.
/r/seduction25/04/15 07:29 PM
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If you think it means more than that, yet post about it needing to be explained, then yes, you missed the point of of what is stated.
/r/seduction22/04/15 04:06 AM
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I was hoping if his words were some opening insight to understanding what's going on inside other people's minds. He did, you missed it. He's saying it could be any number of things, but whatever it is, it's not about you, so don't make it about you.
/r/seduction22/04/15 03:57 AM
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mice guy
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:12 PM
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It's the top comment from 12 hours ago.
/r/seduction17/02/15 05:11 PM
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Because you need to be confident and take initiative. Have a plan. Have a backup plan. Have a second location for after that plan if things are going well, if not, dip out early and see what else is going on, or just go relax at home. Having a plan is very key and probably one of the only decent tips on the list.
/r/seduction21/01/15 09:43 AM
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While a totally awkward thing to say, I've had people say it to me too. The #1 best response is something witty / playful / turns the tables on her in a fun way, etc. Get too serious and it's boring or more awkward. For example, I might sigh and say "Well, I've been gay since about high school and my last boyfriend just left me so I figured what the hell, why not give women a shot?" and then let it sit there for about 1.5 seconds while you see her go through about 50 thoughts and then you reliev…
/r/seduction21/01/15 09:38 AM
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While some of these rules are good (or a given for experienced guys), the tone of her article let me know immediately that she is the type of person I don't want to be around.
/r/seduction21/01/15 09:30 AM
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Yes, but it depends on the guy. If he's got other people to go out with, she can be nexted. However, most guys are pretty eager, so they will put up with repeated flakes / late / cancels / etc.
/r/seduction21/01/15 09:27 AM
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It was in the VERY FIRST item in the list. Immediate turn-off.
/r/seduction21/01/15 09:25 AM
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Oh man, classic Patrice. He schools her, and she's the supposed expert. He steamrolled everyone, so there is that advantage, but when called on her really weak premise(s), she had NOTHING because no guy probably has EVER called her on any bullshit, thus making his points more valid. I'd rate this up there with when he schooled the lady on the news about what's funny.
/r/seduction21/01/15 09:20 AM
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Just to clarify, that's a Pusha T verse (solo artist / also from The Clipse).
/r/TheRedPill31/12/14 10:49 PM
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Wait, the last time I was on Tinder, it just pulled your Facebook bio, can you actually write something now? I dipped out a year back when the only people on there were college freshmen 75 miles away, and extremely obvious spam.
/r/seduction26/09/14 10:48 PM
2

Damn, I spotted that same friend with 50 cent.
/r/seduction05/09/14 03:37 AM
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Probably by the concessions
/r/seduction16/04/14 11:40 PM
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that's not true In both psychology and Buddhism, it actually is true (although there are varying ways of describing it). The true self isn't defined by those things. When you are connected with your true self, it's literally the opposite of what you are describing. Your true self would be when you are in the moment and free from inner monologue, which would really be the critical 'influence' from yourself and others you are describing. Sure, your day to day brain wouldn't be developed along the …
/r/seduction28/03/14 08:16 PM
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The true, authentic, honest, self isn't based on what others are or how they respond to you.
/r/seduction28/03/14 06:28 PM
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It wasn't that she got approached, it was how she was approached.
/r/seduction15/03/14 07:07 PM
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Pick Up Artist, aka seduction or PUA community, skills, etc.
/r/seduction15/03/14 07:05 PM
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To be fair, I'd ditch a first date for a Jay-Z party.
/r/seduction05/02/14 06:14 AM
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Plus, you just opened her up to attention from three angles, reducing you to 33% of her attention immediately, and ultimately, you got 0%.
/r/seduction05/02/14 06:11 AM
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You were almost even upset that a match disappeared from Tinder? With all the spam on there, how would you even take that seriously?
/r/seduction28/01/14 09:11 PM
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While I could write things like that down, that's a lot of time I could be doing other things. I usually just either make mental notes of key points during the conversation (which as benchmarks, can jog the memory of other things talked about) or like you said, make a pun or a joke, because recovering quickly like that is also an essential skill in dating. Or you can make it into a game, and see what she remembers about what you told HER, etc.
/r/seduction17/01/14 11:37 PM
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I agree with this, it takes a class analogy and cheapens it a bit, but overall a good analogy.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 06:59 AM
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to a T-bone
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 06:58 AM
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The conversation isn't about dating, it's about marriage. I'd prefer the women I slept with are as experienced as possible. Marriage on the other hand, would be a different story.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/13 11:07 AM
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They get so caught up in pleasing other people for attention, that when they do get the attention it's short lived, or not as rewarding as they expected, leading to feeling worse, and getting in a pity loop. Or, they don't get any attention, and become bitter against others (women, or jealous of other men), and that's another pity loop. Once you have improved your own life, and worked on yourself, and don't seek validation from others - it breeds confidence, which is attractive to others, friend…
/r/seduction08/11/13 10:20 AM
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I totally agree with you. I don't have a discussion board or framework, etc. I did do my research initially. The definitions and acronyms are of little use to me as well. I subscribe to /r/polyamory, but don't read it or identify with it much. Scheduling between multiple people on Google Calendar seems as much, if not more work than just having a wife / girlfriend. The guys in those marriage situations were talked into it by their wife, and by that point, I'm sure weaned off their (probably low …
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 09:23 AM
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While I understand your sentiment, it's not a complete "shitshow." If a woman is suggesting it to you because she wants other men, and that wasn't your agreement initially in the relationship, then that's not really polyamory per se, that is a relationship breach and I respect the guy in the story above seeing himself out the door. However, I'm upfront with women that I'm not monogamous, and they can feel free to do whatever they want - I just don't want to need to hear about it, or want to be i…
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 08:43 AM
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It works for me the majority of the time, every once in a while, it doesn't. The times it doesn't is when a woman wants you to be monogamous, after you have already been upfront and said that isn't your lifestyle. It's complex. I genuinely do give a fuck about people I'm in relationships with - I care about them like I would a girlfriend, but there are limits - which few women understand. Girls / women will cheat on their boyfriends with you, break up with them, then expect you to be monogamous …
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 08:34 AM
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Right? Notice she didn't say "us" or even perhaps suggest a shared experience, such as second FEMALE, it was really all about her.
/r/TheRedPill08/11/13 08:21 AM
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You can do both though. Finding a balance is key in almost anything - that zen frame. Steve Jobs was a 'nerd' in a few different ways, but probably also a recluse at times, perhaps and asshole often. However, he had a magnetism to him. He dressed subtle, and probably wasn't always causing the most 'hey look at me' at parties, but I am sure women were naturally attracted to him, even as a nerd. Contrary to the guy above, you can actually attract people with not doing that much, minding your own b…
/r/seduction06/11/13 09:47 PM
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That's a long ass plane ride for some food..
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:44 AM
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Agreed here, that's how I've had the most success. Numbers are a formality, not the goal.
/r/seduction17/10/13 03:40 AM
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About 10 years back, I was driving with my younger brother and we saw a girl at a gas station in short jean shorts. He realized it was someone he knew from school (turns out it was one of the hotter girls in his school). I go 'watch this.' I was joking at first, but I pulled in, and walked up to her, said hi, gave her a flyer to this rave (yeah, yeah) and got her number. My brother was flabbergasted. We ended up dating. It was just an offhanded goofy impulse, but sometimes that is the easiest wa…
/r/seduction17/10/13 02:08 AM
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You walk up, say hi.
/r/seduction17/10/13 02:00 AM
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If you're looking for treasure, dig several holes, not one big one.
/r/TheRedPill30/09/13 06:31 AM
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As someone who's never had a LTR, I've always wondered about this. I've been in and out of LTRs my whole life, several from 1-3 years, one that was about 5 years. In between, I just hooked up with a lot of people. About two years ago, after my longest LTR and living together, I stumbled on polyamory, reading about PUA, and game, etc. I've always had 'game,' but I was failing to realize that once in a LTR, things would break down after a period of time, and then you looked like a "perfect couple"…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/13 09:02 AM
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I agree, I'll have to remember that one, that's a good move, classy even, as it could have saved her life.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/13 10:13 PM
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Co-signed. Text and FB messaging in 2013 will get you the same results as any other method, if you are good at it.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/13 10:09 PM
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You sound older. Nobody I've dated with tattoos got them as a teenager, nor listens to metal or had a biker dad. That's a pretty old fashioned stereotype. For example, my ex is a mental health professional, working on her doctorate.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/13 05:18 PM
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I'm not so sure I get this one. I've dated several heavily tattooed women, who were neither low class, nor lacked self respect. I would also say that it depends on the tattoos, if they are poorly done, that does indicate poor decisions, at least go somewhere professional and have actual art done, etc.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/13 06:10 AM
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I wouldn't say full stop, I've been out with a lot of single moms, and never met their kids. Just keep it casual, don't move in and start a life.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/13 06:05 AM
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If you chase several women at the same time, then one will always be falling in your lap. The chase should be subtle and playful though, not supplicating in nature. She should be chasing you, really. I love the 'chase' part, sometimes it's pretty electric.
/r/seduction20/06/13 06:36 AM
2

Meeting, I think, means meeting and talking to her for a bit then asking. The OP could clarify. I don't think literally doing it in the first three seconds is a good look.
/r/seduction20/06/13 06:31 AM
1

Not so fast, I've slept with plenty of girls this way. Fairly quickly, for being across the US from them.
/r/seduction20/06/13 06:23 AM
0

I'm a vegan, so this actually works at some of the get-togethers...
/r/seduction17/06/13 08:03 AM
2

Google 'text game'
/r/seduction17/06/13 07:53 AM
1

No, I'm not the least bit paranoid. Being careful going into the ocean, or into a cave isn't paranoia, it's being prepared for bad things that can occur, that have happened to you or others in the past. I trust everyone to an extent.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 03:23 AM
7

'xzcrgwregwgr wrgww45ggw4g45g5sgs svrsgbsbrsbrsbrsbtstbsh54'
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 08:14 PM
1

I agree. Since when was it ok for SNL, or shows like the Office to write memes into the scripts? It was funny the first time I heard / saw it, if I see it again, it seems more like 'hey guys, remember this thing that was funny? (also found in the Hangover II, and I'm assuming III). That's lazy writing, they should be setting the trends (such as the Digital Shorts), not rehashing shit that we already heard.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:53 PM
6

Just to be fair, many of these lyrics were lifted (and finally, begrudgingly credited) from black bluesmen.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:45 PM
1

OP, your girlfriend is a bitch. Agreed. I can't even believe he is still there. I have NEVER had a girl / woman treat me like that, it's appalling.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:40 PM
1

When I do this, I end up feeling way better. If I hang around, I end up feeling worse about myself, and everything in general. Why make myself feel that way when I know what to do already?
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:26 PM
1

This. Verbatim from a woman last week: The way I took you saying that...was like, "i made myself available to you. But there are plenty of other people that are dying to see me. Unless you do this the way I want, I'm not interested." "So, I'm not concerned with your plans, because they aren't what I want, so I have plenty of other options." Yes. Guess who wants to make plans now? If I had started apologizing (I did clarify a bit, as I didn't like her exaggeration of what I said), then she would …
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:25 PM
1

I started doing this about a year ago when I read it on seddit, and it's made a world of difference. You look better (more confident), and for some reason, it just FEELS better too. It took about a week to become a habit, and now it's just second nature.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:14 PM
1

I don't think lightly snooping doesn't mean you don't trust her, more that it's happened before to you, and you don't really trust ANYONE at this point. It's not paranoia, it's saving yourself time and money. If you see everything looks all good, awesome, then she gains another point in your book (or is really good at deleting, in preparation for snooping, which has got her caught before).
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 07:08 PM
1

I will somewhat agree. If the phone is lying out unlocked and on my table in my own house, I might take a quick text peek just to see if anything jumps out. Call it what you want, it can save you a lot of time and heartache (not to mention money). I might check in a few months later, or longer, if ever. However, if I'm seeing someone formally, and all of a sudden they completely change frame and are giving off red flags (especially for an extended period of time), I'll scour the text messages to…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 06:57 PM
1

Agreed, sometimes I'll hear (not in an anger situation) 'these bitches are all whores' or something to that effect. Whoa, slow down buddy, at least start from a neutral point.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 06:53 PM
2

Not just changed the script, but notorious for doing 50-100 takes of a scene.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 06:48 PM
2

has helped my talk so much better Try writing with a pen instead of typing for half an hour each day until the typing improves ;-)
/r/seduction06/06/13 09:05 PM
1

Yes! It's waterproof too, I keep one with my camping stuff, and one in bug out bag.
/r/seduction19/05/13 02:49 AM
2

I use fire steel. Looks pretty manly to a girl if they've never seen it before, like a god shooting lightning from his fingertips.
/r/seduction18/05/13 10:12 PM
1

There are plenty of state parks with showers though... ease them into it.
/r/seduction18/05/13 04:33 AM
1

Girls get moist when I set up the fire and it takes a few minutes but I light it without a match and it all goes up into a perfect shape. It's like woods magic.
/r/seduction18/05/13 04:32 AM
12

'Houston, we do not have a problem...'
/r/seduction18/05/13 03:45 AM
20

In case OP doesn't
/r/seduction11/05/13 07:04 AM
2

The insides of the van are lined with gum, like a pedo web.
/r/seduction15/04/13 06:02 AM
5

TAKE THE GODDAMN GUM
/r/seduction15/04/13 06:01 AM
1

I heard that at the apathy convention, right after the noon nap.
/r/seduction15/04/13 06:01 AM
1

In the scenario you described, you can't rape the willing.
/r/seduction15/04/13 06:00 AM
12

Yawning doesn't just have to do with being tired, and is also usually involuntary when you see someone else do it.
/r/seduction15/04/13 01:45 AM
7

Some people hate gum though, so that could get a bit weird.
/r/seduction15/04/13 01:44 AM
1

She seemed to be more in shock, but still.
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:47 AM
3

All of this works. I've been a vegan / eating raw for about a year (great conversation starter I've found), lost 75 pounds, do yoga (it feels fucking great, plus, women in yoga pants rule), kettlebells, have a great set of 2-3 fragrances that are like crack to women, learned to cook - basically everything on the list. I feel great, and it blows women away to know I have a clean, well designed house (I studied interior design), go on adventures in the woods, can cook gourmet style meals for them,…
/r/seduction15/03/13 08:00 AM
6

Honestly, some women like that don't actually date a lot because people aren't confident enough to talk to her like a real person vs. throwing her lines. I've always found success by just talking to her like any average girl. However, if her attitude is terrible, move on, you don't want that anyway. From what you said she had a good attitude, sometimes really attractive women are extremely insecure about it and it's a relief to talk to a normal guy with regular conversation.
/r/seduction15/03/13 07:55 AM
3

I'm just picturing Stojas singing this...
/r/seduction15/03/13 07:50 AM
1

Concerts and raves are two different things unless you are talking about a festival concert, people are there to see the band, you might as well just take a girl with you. A regular concert is pointless to try and talk to someone, it's loud, and the only time there is mingling is when there is a set break. At raves and festivals, there are a lot more people milling about in different groups, many away from the speakers on purpose. Raves are the easiest, as so many people are fucked up or just ha…
/r/seduction11/03/13 04:31 AM
2

Right, keep in mind it's YOUR life, YOUR night, and you are going to have fun either way. If she goes for you, that's just a bonus. Even if she walks away, if you develop the ability to just laugh about it and talk to / call someone else... then you're golden.
/r/seduction11/03/13 03:30 AM
2

Don't make someone a priority when you're only an option. I've never regretted leaving someone I couldn't trust. I've always regretted staying with someone I couldn't trust. Don’t confuse intensity with love.
/r/seduction09/03/13 09:04 AM
1

ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction09/03/13 08:57 AM
9

Seconded, great advice that has worked well for me in the past for sure.
/r/seduction05/03/13 07:29 AM
21

Rule 1: Be funny Rule 2: Don't be unfunny
/r/seduction05/03/13 06:52 AM
1

If you cleaned up a bit and put a suit on you'd look baller as fuck. I'm sure it has more to do with your personality / confidence. I'm at least 50 pounds heavier and have been pulling quality women since 96. It's more about your personality to women anyway.
/r/seduction21/02/13 12:58 AM
5

You should always take your gaming advice from a literal game show.
/r/seduction21/01/13 03:36 AM
4

The problem isn't your face, it's your attitude.
/r/seduction25/05/12 05:00 AM
2

Awesome, good luck dude! It really calms the mind with practice, doing it first thing in the morning can really set your head straight.
/r/seduction11/05/12 06:55 PM
3

Read sidebar Google 'inner game' Do an outdoors activity every week, preferably every few days
/r/seduction11/05/12 12:16 AM
2

Awesome, not being sarcastic, congrats on getting past most of that. My ex dated a rage-o-holic, so by nature she rages when mad and we couldn't have a discussion that ended well, because she WANTED the rage to come out to have that 'calm after the storm' feeling afterward. Fuck that. Frustration is totally ok, that actually can motivate to do better at things.
/r/seduction10/05/12 08:27 PM
1

Do you have a son already? If not, put that in the 'who fucking cares' category and man up. How are you going to have a son if you can't sack up and be a man some girl wants to date?
/r/seduction10/05/12 08:19 PM
3

Agreed. Here is the thing. You (OP) have realized the situation. Now BLAMING the situation for your CURRENT state is no longer valid. You can reference it, but you have to change your frame of mind. Look at your dad and former (pre-us giving you GREAT advice) self and say, wow, I am glad I'm no longer like that anymore. Research the shit out of 'inner game' because it sounds like you need a confidence boost. Subscribe to /r/getmotivated, and it sounds like you also need a physical hobby, mountai…
/r/seduction10/05/12 08:11 PM
6

Be yourself really IS bad advice as far as women go, unless yourself is already great at it. 'Be yourself' is an empty platitude that lets the giver feel like they gave some great advice and lets the receiver feel like 'yeah, THEY are missing out on ME,' then you both have a special moment, meanwhile, still go home alone and sad. I'm a big fan of 'fake it 'till you make it,' but you have to explain it. Also said really well by Ben Afflecks monologue in Boiler Room: 'Act as if'
/r/seduction10/05/12 08:08 PM
3

Agreed. Looking like you don't give a fuck when a girl shit tests you, okay. Looking like you don't give a fuck when a cop tells you that you have expired tags and are intoxicated, time to reel it in a bit.
/r/seduction10/05/12 07:55 PM
6

When you dress well, in nice looking clothes (they don't have to be expensive), throw on some decent cologne, etc, you just FEEL better in general. Sure, impressing others is great, but it's not all about that.
/r/seduction10/05/12 07:54 PM
1

I dress to look good and feel good inside. If someone wants to goof on me because of what I look like or what I'm wearing, great, hope you had a good time doing it. There is a ton of circle jerking in MFA, but on the other hand (pun), they ARE teaching some totally inept people that need help at least SOME style, which will then translate to more confidence. However, I also don't need to spend $500 on a pair of brown shoes, I can feel as good in a pair of $50 (hell, $5) brown shoes with an extra…
/r/seduction10/05/12 07:52 PM
2

"you're not alone in feeling this way" vibe from the community. Totally agreed, Reddit has made me actually MORE social and adjusted, vs. less social and introverted. Seeing people in the motivation section or the mountain bike section gets me out there and going, and reading the forever alone section makes me feel more lucky and empathetic towards those with less social skills that need a kind word, etc.
/r/seduction10/05/12 07:44 PM
2

That's really pointing to a deeper anger issue. Not to diagnose or anything. I get 'mad' sometimes, but I have never really 'raged' other than in very extreme relationship arguments where I just couldn't believe the other person was SO out of line, etc. I don't usually hit things or throw them, even if I have an urge to. A lot of it has to to with reading about Zen and cognitive things (separately). However, for a video game? I play about 2 hours max a week, to blow off steam. I limit myself to …
/r/seduction10/05/12 07:41 PM
5

100%. I had gone to therapists / got medication for anxiety from around 17-21, with terrible results, feeling even worse. Ran into a counselor who was a cognitive specialist for really troubled people, but was the nicest, calmest, coolest dude I'd ever met in the mental health field. He turned me on to cognitive therapy and thinking, and changed my mindset completely.
/r/seduction10/05/12 07:02 PM
3

Seconded, I love this collected info.
/r/seduction10/05/12 06:59 PM
2

I'm mostly atheist, but have studied and read about Buddhism for as long as I've been atheist. Zen type principles are very easy to align with atheism, as I feel more they are of a 'human' science leads to bliss / happiness vs. a religion leads to zero answers but a reward when dead type thing.
/r/seduction10/05/12 06:58 PM
2

See, when I'm playing a video game, I'm relaxing FROM traffic, etc. I never get pissed off at something like that, if I get sniped (for example) I'm just like 'HOLY SHIT hahahahaha.'
/r/seduction10/05/12 06:50 PM
3

Wow are you me? 33 even as well. Thanks for the link, I've more or less gotten away from my prior thinking, but what you said hit home in a past-me way.
/r/seduction10/05/12 06:43 PM
64

"So you want me to F you?"
/r/seduction04/05/12 03:55 PM
0

That sounds needy, that's why it's a turn off. If you 'ping' a girl you haven't heard from in a while in a similar fashion to the OP's way, it actually works pretty well.
/r/seduction04/05/12 03:52 PM
2

Agreed, this is one great way to do it, just simple innuendo. Just don't go over the top, more sly and playful than "THATS WHAT SHE SAID".
/r/seduction27/04/12 08:52 PM
1

That's borderline creepy in a sense, I would never randomly touch another man like that, not out of homophobia, but just personal space. Especially his HEAD. Sounds like they are trying to Costanza you. If it was me I'd jerk in the opposite direction and say 'Whoa man, hands off' or something. Ladies, on the other hand, can touch all they want.
/r/seduction27/04/12 08:50 PM
9

That was a great response, and I can't believe other (male especially) adults would behave like that, but that would be really annoying. I would mostly just imply that the guy seems to like touching other men a lot (head, shaved, rub, all good words to accentuate).
/r/seduction27/04/12 08:41 PM
2

Agreed, and sometimes, how you handle a situation can both mean potential future hookups with this girl and / or you get her to socially proof you, etc. Nothing wrong with an attractive girl with you somewhere, even in a friend context...
/r/seduction27/04/12 08:36 PM
1

Plus sometimes this forces you to operate out of your comfort zone. Perhaps you wouldn't have gone to that amazing party you met that girl at, if you debated it for 10 minutes and just decided to stay home, etc.
/r/seduction27/04/12 08:31 PM
34

For once, I agree with a rapist.
/r/seduction27/04/12 08:16 PM
3

Agreed, sometimes I have been stunned that the words coming out of my mouth were received so well, as I was just pushing my personal bar for teasing for my own amusement. Michael Cera and George Clooney could both use the same tease on a girl, but other than the looks part, the delivery would be a key difference in the reception.
/r/seduction27/04/12 08:15 PM
2

I disagree, the problems with guys I know and advice I always end up giving them directly relates to their inner game. They usually are good looking, make money, have skills and hobbies, but can't translate it to doing well with women due to just not learning inner game skill naturally from either their dad, in school, in college, etc. I see your point of course, but a post like this one is key before any other things can be implemented confidently. What good are routines and lines if you can't …
/r/seduction27/04/12 06:46 PM
1

The adage 'no risk, no reward' is very often the case. I'm an introvert by nature, highly socially anxious. However, I date several great looking and intelligent women. I constantly challenge myself to do things I wouldn't normally do by nature. I went to a feminist all-girl performance at an all-girls college the other night, and had a great time - plus, I was one of the only men there (there were two, including me). Would I have ever gone to that by nature? Nah. A girl I'm seeing asked me to g…
/r/seduction12/04/12 01:03 AM
16

Hell, STANDING OVATION
/r/seduction22/03/12 07:21 PM
5

This is what makes it kind of awkward when you are crammed in a car with a bunch of guys. Sure, it's not sexual, but it's crazy intimate to be pressed up against people you know / don't know.
/r/seduction12/03/12 04:26 PM
1

Personally, I like George Carlin, Doug Stanhope, Dave Attell, Jim Norton, Louis CK, Patton Oswalt, David Cross, Eddie Izzard, Paul F. Tompkins, Jim Gaffigan, Joe Rogan, Bill Burr, and Gary Shandling. Not an all inclusive list of course, but you get the idea.
/r/seduction08/03/12 09:03 PM
1

Ok, I gotta get this guys stuff now...
/r/seduction08/03/12 08:56 PM
5

Awesome post, agree 100%. As soon as I realized many of these things and put them into play, my success with women and friends was amplified like crazy. It seems counter-intuitive, but it's not. You THINK you are being nice to a girl, but you are really just begging for her attention for YOU - selfish. If you just out and out state, "hey, I like you, let's do something," it's so much more honest. You are saying what you mean. Girls can smell that, and they can smell desperation. I've seen this f…
/r/seduction07/03/12 09:48 PM
4

Agreed, and LISTENING to a lot of stand up for the last 10 years ago or so (podcasts, live cd sets, dvd's, live, etc.) has really helped me determine what is and isn't funny. You don't want to be the guy that's literally telling a joke you heard (well, unless you are a master storyteller), that's trying pretty hard. It's much more effective to be subtly funny, sarcastic, etc. You'd think it's counter-productive, but women love it.
/r/seduction07/03/12 09:41 PM
1

Bring a book on palm reading and have a good laugh while holding her hand open and 'reading' it, but make up fake readings, tease her, etc.
/r/seduction02/03/12 07:41 PM
2

It's both.
/r/seduction02/03/12 07:40 PM
2

Say, I do a lot of awesome things, then ask them what THEY have been up to, so they qualify themselves first.
/r/seduction02/03/12 07:39 PM
2

That rules! I don't use routines normally, but that really fits into my natural way of talking. Thanks!
/r/seduction02/03/12 07:32 PM
2

Agreed, I just remembered I was friends with a natural about 10 years ago for a long time, and couldn't figure out how I'd be at his house and see three girls come by in a day to fuck him. After a while, I picked up a few things (not that I was bad with women or anything), but I would gather that by our age at the time (25ish), this guy would have HAD to have slept with 500 women, if not more. Seriously funny dude, like a cross between Eminem and Adam Sandler in looks and humor, but still with a…
/r/seduction02/03/12 07:29 PM
1

Honestly? I was super awkward and beta in high school, but still did a lot of fucking and making out via girlfriends. I'm only medium cute. Basically, I just fucked a ton of girls in my 20's, both super hot, and a few not so hot during dry spells, and now, it just usually comes naturally. I couldn't go into a bar and do routines and out alpha other guys or anything, but I sleep with a lot of attractive women, and make out a lot if I don't feel like having sex. Basically it boils down to confiden…
/r/seduction02/03/12 07:19 PM
3

Unless you are a gay guy?
/r/seduction24/01/12 01:48 PM
1

You can sit on the same side of a booth, but I personally think that is cheesy as shit, unless it's a nice dark corner somewhere. Randomly at the Applebees looks kind of high school. Some coffee shops have armchairs, you can sit in those instead of at a table. If you want to escalate kino across a table, a few easy ways are: Asking to see her tattoos, if she has any on her arm you can lightly grab her wrist and gently turn it slightly to see the tattoo Hold up your hand and say you want to see h…
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:50 PM
5

This. Just chuckle and go back to whatever it is you were doing. Works even better if you have a mischievous glint in your eye. Pouting / any negative reaction would immediately be a turn off. If you respond like it's a cat and mouse game that is amusing you, then 99% of the time she'll just kiss you later anyway.
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:30 PM
2

Google 'inner game.' My personality means I date / sleep with very attractive girls, and I am only so-so in the looks department. My personality is a combinations of honesty / confidence / experience with women / cocky humor / genuine interest in the girl, etc. It's more about the BALANCE between these things, you can't just be a dick to women and they fall all over you. You actually have to CARE about the interaction you are having because it's a good time for everyone involved. Trust me, read …
/r/seduction10/01/12 05:36 PM
1

HAHAHAHAHA man, you are right. I used to watch that show with my parents, I'll have to Netflix it soon.
/r/seduction06/01/12 01:50 PM
1

Preferably in the vagina, but I'm open to other offers if she wants.
/r/seduction05/01/12 09:43 PM
1

WWFCD: What would Fraiser Crane do?
/r/seduction05/01/12 07:08 PM
2

Mostly via internet and social circles. OkCupid, Facebook, bookstore, cute register girl, friend of a friend, etc. I literally never have hooked up in a bar, nor really care to.
/r/seduction05/01/12 02:37 PM
1

Nice. Yes, I basically have to accept that I am anxious, accept that the other person may be as well, and turn it into something I can work with. Reframe it. Do some jumping jacks and lift a weight 20 times real fast while listening to some loud music.
/r/seduction04/01/12 10:04 PM
5

I also have always had social anxiety I have "pushed through." If I let it get to me, it's pretty severe. If I do something about it, it's still there, but not as bad. I have slept with a lot of women, and my g/f's have always been very attractive. After a recent breakup (4yr relationship) I was feeling sorry for myself, and said, fuck that, why do I need to suffer over this? Knowing that it was a numbers game, I just increased the number of women I was talking to on a daily basis. Not purely fo…
/r/seduction04/01/12 09:33 PM
10

Turban Outfitters, for the casual Indian male.
/r/seduction30/12/11 06:44 PM
1

You play it like Han Solo does.
/r/seduction30/12/11 06:10 PM
6

Totally agreed. I had no problem getting many girls, but it was either when rejected by someone, or once the relationship progressed into the area where you have 'problems', that's when the AFC part came out, and it's not attractive. I have mild OCD, so any rejection or issues became an endless loop AFC behavior (not always, but enough to notice). Looking for answers, stumbled on the PUA community, and then seddit, and have found literally dozens of things I was doing wrong - not in picking up w…
/r/seduction15/12/11 05:44 PM
1

Great advice - I'm not your typical stoner of course, I dress nice, have an impeccable apartment, don't eat junk food, etc.
/r/seduction28/11/11 01:50 AM
1

I updated the original post - I did end up smoking with a girl and watching a movie - the difference was that we talked for a good 45 minutes prior to smoking, and she was really digging the movie and was laughing and asking questions, so it ended up being a good time. I've had the other experience as well, driving around through hoods smoking and looking at weird shit..
/r/seduction28/11/11 01:49 AM
1

That's not my attitude, but the attitude projected in lots of the PUA forums (much less on Seddit). Totally agree with what you just said.
/r/seduction27/11/11 05:51 PM
1

This is a good rule of thumb.
/r/seduction27/11/11 05:50 PM
2

I understand the gaming part of going to a club and running lines to pick up some slut. If that's what you are out for, great. However, I can't remember the last time I picked up some chick at a club, that's just not very genuine for my particular needs. I might have met someone at a bar, or ran into someone, but just cold picking up girls isn't really of interest to me. However, like you said, yoga, gym, library, etc, is all great. Don't go to yoga with the intention of meeting women, and don't…
/r/seduction26/11/11 09:12 PM
1

When I was getting Unemployment from when they laid off our staff, I was also doing freelancing on the side. My job? Freelancing. I try not to lie much in life, but you don't always have to overshare things. If it's your g/f then share, sure. But some random chick? I don't feel too bad about it.
/r/seduction26/11/11 09:10 PM
0

Porn induced? I don't think so. You either have ED or you don't. I can jerk off 3 times during the day and still have normal sex at night, I doubt porn is your issue. Looking at it less would help I'm sure, but you need to get diagnosed and treated if you really think it's a condition. Yes, no girl does want an impotent man. Take those words and motivate yourself to do something about it. Don't use them to put yourself into a loop where you keep doing what you already know isn't working.
/r/seduction26/11/11 09:08 PM
1

I had the same thing happen, and a girl ended up flaking. I stopped all contact for about two weeks. Hit her up with a 'Happy Thanksgiving' text last week, and boom, she responded saying we should get together and her free days. Had a date last night. You never know with flakes, you can decrease your chance of them via various tips online, but sometimes there's nothing you can do - many girls are fickle, especially ones with lots of social options or busy schedules.
/r/seduction26/11/11 09:05 PM
1

Great tip - I've done this many times.
/r/seduction26/11/11 09:04 PM
2

You can smoke 20 hits of one kind, or one hit of another, sometimes it's hard to gauge your headspace unless it's your weed and you know.
/r/seduction26/11/11 06:27 PM
1

Agreed, however - almost every girl I know smokes, I wouldn't categorize most of them as being trashy...
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:55 AM
14

I want to make your comment into a t-shirt.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:15 AM
2

Agreed, although after posting this I'm realizing that it depends on the girl, setting, and type of weed you are smoking. I can't remember the last time I tried smoking with someone for the first time, it's been 15 years at least.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:14 AM
9

Same here, sometimes. It usually depends on the situation, as someone noted in another comment, if you establish a good time first, then smoke, it seems to go at least a tiny bit better than just boom - Bakesville. I've smoked plenty of times and been great, but other times I've smoked and went into a club or party and just felt hilariously awkward.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:10 AM
3

OH MAN, I totally forgot about that move! My ex and I used to do that because the smoke was less harsh then. I will attempt this tonight...
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:08 AM
1

Agreed, although sometimes it seems to depend on the type of weed, sometimes it's a crapshoot if it's her bag. The girls I hang with usually have some decent stuff though - but great points.
/r/seduction26/11/11 12:07 AM
3

Fully agreed. Timing / setting does seem to be key.
/r/seduction25/11/11 10:07 PM
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Sometimes it is like magic pixie dust to a girl and you can have a ball. Sometimes though, the girl gets really introspective, and the last thing she wants is some dude running game. Then I just hang and consider it a friendly thing.
/r/seduction25/11/11 10:06 PM
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I'm not a physical specimen, and in the past suffered from horrible social anxiety. However, even when young, I could always pull attractive girls - part luck, part sense of humor, part who knows what. Through the last 15 years, I have dated / slept with some amazing looking girls with great personalities. I'm always getting either questions or looks wondering how I have such a great looking girl with me / girlfriend. I only found the PUA / Seddit community recently, and realized that I was doin…
/r/seduction25/11/11 08:24 PM
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Agreed. You don't have to commit to a religion to get the wisdom of their teachings. Some of the stuff is so beneficial and has helped me greatly, I can't believe it's not part of childhood teachings either.
/r/seduction22/11/11 11:23 PM
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I read a lot of Zen Buddhism, but I'm not religious. The principles of things like these exist, because in reality, it works. Negative people end up with negative lives because they cultivate it in their words, thoughts, and actions. The opposite is true, even when you have setbacks you can gain something from it instead of letting it ruin your life, etc.
/r/seduction22/11/11 08:44 PM
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Wow, you really get elaborate. Nice!
/r/seduction17/11/11 12:26 AM
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I have regular sex, and still go a few times even if I've fapped that day...I think it builds character!
/r/seduction17/11/11 12:10 AM
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Flowers are ok then, but don't over do the 'gifting,' that's more girlfriend territory.
/r/seduction17/11/11 12:08 AM
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Debman3 hath spoken!
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:57 PM
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Fortunately, LOTS of males and females are in this situation or have been, and are understanding. It's not a great thing, but depending on how much money his family has, you never know.
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:55 PM
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Was the same situation for me, and various things help that - COGNITIVE therapy (not just counseling), Fitness / exercise, meditation, etc.
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:54 PM
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Dude - your game is off because you aren't right with yourself. Don't take offense at this, because you said it - but you have no apartment, no money, nothing to be attractive behind your game. You aren't an authentic man that girls want to sleep with. Girls want to see a guy that is confident, and has some REAL substance (fitness, martial arts, REAL hobbies, outdoorsman, etc.), not one that just talks a good game. You outlined your problem yourself, you are in a down period, and that never is a…
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:51 PM
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I'm going to throw another wrench in there...I have sexual contact a few times a week, and I still fap - daily if not a few times. I think it's more of an individual thing. I could see how me not fapping would increase game and motivation, and that's worth testing to see if it works for you - but it's not the be all end all answer... Also - I'm not insanely good looking or anything, I'm normal good looking and still working on losing weight, however I date or sleep with very attractive girls. It…
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:43 PM
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Agreed. It's called 'edging,' build it up, pull back, etc.
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:38 PM
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Good, then you are 'feeling' some tension and push-pull is happening. You blabbing for 30 mins straight isn't doing either party any good.
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:34 PM
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You sent flowers? ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:33 PM
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Good point...
/r/seduction16/11/11 02:58 PM
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Whoa, very insightful post. I wasn't referencing the silent treatment per se, but more how do you not get stuck in a conversation loop after you made your point. I'm still learning lessons. They change all the fucking time. Totally have run the gamut of everything you have listed there.
/r/seduction16/11/11 01:54 AM
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He defined it - anytime you focus 100% on a girl, it becomes unattractive to her, and she recoils.
/r/seduction15/11/11 08:41 PM
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100%
/r/seduction15/11/11 08:06 PM
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Awesome, thanks. I have read the Men are from Mars book, it's a tiny bit dated, but most still applies. There is also a lot of fluff in it, but good advice. I'll check out the other one just as a point of reference. Thanks again...
/r/seduction15/11/11 08:02 PM
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No shit? My question was what do you do when you state your position, aka talk about it, and there isn't an 'end' to the conversation.
/r/seduction15/11/11 07:48 PM
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Good point, thanks.
/r/seduction15/11/11 07:06 PM
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Can you clarify a little more on your mistakes about this? I'm still learning new things every day - and part of that is knowing when to be firm / break things off, etc. over what I would consider unacceptable behavior. I specifically didn't post this in the relationship forum, because that's not the advice I was looking for. I hate feeling 'passive aggressive' but can't find where the line between that is, and just being firm with your opinion and not leaving room for misinterpretations. Even a…
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:16 PM
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Good answer.
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:05 PM
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Gotcha, thanks for the reply. I was more curious as to what happens AFTER you say that though, how you should carry yourself - if I go quiet after I say something, I get the feeling that it's diffusing both the weight of what I said, and making it a 'stand off.'
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:05 PM
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Awesome reply, thanks!
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:00 PM
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That makes complete sense, I guess it all depends on how serious you are with the person to if it's a tactic, or being passive-aggressive.
/r/seduction15/11/11 02:59 PM
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Do not talk to her during a tantrum or other emotional outburst. Wait till she's finished and calmed down before you talk with her. THAT'S maybe what I was looking for, wait until she is finished, THEN talk.
/r/seduction15/11/11 02:57 PM
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Agreed, thanks for the comment.
/r/seduction15/11/11 02:56 PM
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Awesome, thanks for that post, I'm saving it for advice for other FA kids who ask for advice. Instead of seeking out answers, many of them commiserate in FA, and stay stuck in the loop that if they are a loser (in their mind), at least they can hang with other losers.
/r/seduction14/11/11 11:37 PM
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Whenever I need evidence of this, or to feel better, I check out /r/foreveralone. It's 1000% beta central and you can see how much of a turn off it is, even as a guy.
/r/seduction14/11/11 08:00 PM
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I had social anxiety, and was / am the same way. It's like I can't focus sometimes, and then my gaze and posture are all over the place. Good luck...
/r/seduction11/11/11 08:13 PM
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This is the hardest thing for me to do. I spent most of my teen years smoking pot or tripping, and AVOIDING eye contact so people wouldn't see red or dilated eyes, and this carried over into my adult life. It makes my gaze go all over the place to where people are asking what is behind them that is so interesting, etc. Working on this has done wonders for my conversations and overall authority when talking about something. I took public speaking in college and it was pure torture. Nearly impossi…
/r/seduction11/11/11 08:12 PM
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A tip I read the other day was to lean very slightly forward while walking. It makes you keep your head up and makes it uncomfortable to look down. It's done wonders for my posture while walking, and eye contact. Eye contact - I in general don't like interacting with people where I live (I live in the South, lots of general just 'lumps' walking around). However, I've made a huge effort to make eye contact and hold it when I see someone that is mildly attractive or higher, just for practice. I wa…
/r/seduction11/11/11 08:09 PM
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Agreed, text buddies are the worst waste of time if it's not going anywhere.
/r/seduction11/11/11 08:02 PM
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Also, she can want to talk but is indifferent based on lack of attraction built. Meaning she's just wasting a few minutes and then is on to the next thing. Either see if you can build up the attraction if it seems worth your time, or move on and see if she makes another move.
/r/seduction11/11/11 08:01 PM
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Honestly though, he gives off this vibe in real life as well, that's what makes the show a great fit. I've heard him on Opie and Anthony, and he fit right in, because he wasn't putting on a stupid act and trying too hard to be liked, he was just naturally funny and gave off the perfect modest but doesn't give a shit if anyone likes him attitude.
/r/seduction11/11/11 07:53 PM
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It helps to be a highly attractive published writer with money and a beat up Porsche.
/r/seduction11/11/11 07:49 PM
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