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It’s cruel to hold someone accountable for their bad decisions? Jesus where will this shit end?!?! The laws don't do enough but they are what they are to supposedly protect victims from convenient outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:19 AM
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Its pandering to an in-group (men) by attacking an out-group (women) unprovoked. "I'm circumcised but if you like it you're a weird bitch." It's exactly as cringe as the tall men who say "I'm tall but fuck those women who aren't attracted to short men." Men pandering to men will never not be off putting. Insulting women for traits you have is 100% virtue signaling. It's a superficial move that costs you nothing and signals solidarity with men who aren't circumcised. This would be fine if you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:25 AM
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It makes think you’re a weird bitch for preferring a mutilated penis Hostile virtue signaling is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:41 AM
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Women are usually not "deluded", this was just something you wanted to enjoy saying. It should be obvious that if women are choosing to stay single despite all the available men out there, it is a choice they are making wilfully. They are saying, "given the options, I choose to go without". The way you phrased it makes it sound that people are required to mate and think they can get what they can't get. It's a narrative that might comfort the men who aren't chosen but it just isn't accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:35 AM
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And new technologies also fed women an unprecedented diet of misandrist propaganda. If you cannot understand how the spread of information did not generate what was already there, you're not really able to discuss this topic. For some reason some men can easily understand vengeance and rage when something bad happens to them but then the harmed party is a woman and they expect a bottomless pit of grace. Women are human. Any failure to understand that female rage has boiled, tolerated, and surviv…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:58 PM
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Misandry is obviously not a response to misogyny. If that were the case, it would have peaked when women were actually oppressed, You think what you're seeing now is the peak? And not the efforts that literally changed history? What makes you think that? Do you think women's feelings about men are new? If so, why do you think that? New technology like the internet, social media, and algorthims allowed men to see unfiltered female response where they aren't fearing repercussions for candor. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:26 PM
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That actually doesn't make sense. It is important that you understand reason. Women are not responsible for misogyny. "Misandry" is a response to misogyny. If you are against slavery or the draft, then you agree with women. Men use strength to abuse their power. Hatred of them is the result. Blaming women for hating how hurts them say certain things I'm sure you are not trying to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:49 PM
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Why misrepresent the argument? If you believe your views are valid, you don't need to lie about what women's POV. "Traditional gender roles" from men who can't provide doesn't make sense. Women have to ensure they gain something because being competent in both male and female roles makes the male pointless. But men want roles that defer power, control, and hierarchy just for being men when functionally, their one value add is currently being done by women as well. They want unequivocal sexual ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:22 PM
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That isn't a life worth living and personally speaking is far more preferable to die and provide them neither body nor womb to grow more children to exploit than to act against my interests in hopes of bad people being slightly less bad. The threats are ineffective because compliance has not protected women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:06 PM
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How so? Do those women not work, they don't pay taxes? They outnumber NEETS? Will you expand? Never married childless women tend to contribute to their communities. I don't know that thats true for men as well, maybe it is. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:03 PM
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This was true 15-20 years ago and men still decided to act how they act. What makes you think threats about the future helps men now? They punished women who complied. They degraded women who complied. All things being equal, there is no reason to care because being "good women" who cared about men never protected women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:00 PM
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They told us that marriage and children were a burden. They degrade mothers all the time. I'm sorry but men are witnessing what happens when they are believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:55 PM
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Women are also significantly increasing in singledom rates. How is that a bad thing? A lot more women don't get married or have children. That is utterly detrimental to their wellbeing. That's your opinion. Again how is that a bad thing? Do you know what happens to women's bodies when we have children? Risk of death while having them? What men do to pregnant partners? How men view mothers? It's difficult to understand risk to reward when you have no idea what the people you are appealing to cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:54 PM
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Is it really an even playing field at this point? If teachers give higher grades to girls for equal competence in school work I'm tempted to say this is a lie but I will do you one better. Men devalue "women's work" like teaching and the low pay reflects it. They are free to enter education and influence the supposed injustice you claim despite current male teachers on social media along with female teachers repeatedly saying girls apply themselves more. Men are free to extend social and emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:49 AM
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This is a failure of men. You are asking a political party to do the impossible that is to say you want them to pretend men aren't being addressed in solutions for all because if straight men are not prioritized above everyone else, they will just vote for the party that worsens their position. The right does not even need perfect answers to win those men over. That it correct. Men were always easy to manipulate and when the dead bodies multiply because of policies and wars they voted for, the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:16 AM
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You made up a bullshit narrative that is unrelated to what I actually wrote and you expect me to expend energy arguing your made up narrative with you. Your reading comprehension issues and/or bad faith isn't my job. Blue pill accusations from a male having a very difficult time with reality is beyond laughable. This thread is men soliciting a hug box that women carry. You are, by definition, blue pilled for begging for the return to a "better time".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:51 PM
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I do for men as they do for me. That is to say "Look out for number one". If you want to call that condemnation, so be it but the baby/bathwater line only works if the "good men" are the ones doing the de-escalating. They're not. You're asking the impacted party to lower the temp on a fire we didn't light. When the good men spend their energy on the bad actors instead of on us, I'll know the asymmetry closed. Until then, looking out for number one is just the rule men taught me, applied back. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:41 PM
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I'm glad we are on the same page. The last thing I would do is expect men to intervene and help which is why I said I already accept that women and girls will continue to be casualties of men. Men have to either burn out and start over or want to rescue themselves (which includes boys) You wrote this for shock value but you are the status quo. I promise you this descent will be far more difficult for you as a man than it will ever be for me. One cruel beauty in the design of nature is no matter …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:13 PM
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1.) make you find this issue more serious No. I already consider it tragic in a serious way. 2.) make you be more open to giving attention to more men Definitely not. 3.)would it make you willing to have sex with more men A very hard no. 4.) would it make you be more intimate with your current partner I'm single but if I were taken, it would surprise me to learn he needs more intimacy as I am already a very affectionate woman who enjoys sex with her partner I don't do pity sex and putting suicid…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:56 PM
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And when the alternative is being under men's heel, the answer will continue to be "so be it" because of how life was for women the last time men had that level of power. You can't take away markets and capitalism anyway. The people you vote for won't allow it. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:43 PM
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Men failing to perform on an even playing field is not "making men poorer". It's society no longer pretending mediocrity serves a voracious capitalistic engine. In other words, society can no longer afford the pretense that average male participation earns a premium. The machine takes all viable bodies now. Whether you can perform or not is a personal problem. And you're mad at women for that while you vote..for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:02 PM
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I think they are fortunate to have women like you and I am genuinely glad for it. I try to feel the same way but the more destruction I see, the more contempt I feel and my only move is to stay hands off. I just wanted to delineate, where they can see, that there are different responses from women and it would be a profound mistake to not understand how that matters politically for their cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:46 PM
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Good thing dating is an individual choice and not a political problem. You as a man are motivated enough by sex to deal with the "emotional mine field". I have no incentive to bother with your political issue especially since it comes so laden with aggression and disrespect. We have enough problems so it is really unfortunate if you expect me to take your shit on because I won't. They're epically unsafe to approach or be around. Says the gender pumping out family annihilators. Spare me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:09 PM
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Is that why they keep begging for women's rescue and performance? Omg winning your way to the front lines while your family starves. You sure showed wahmen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:01 PM
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I don't care how men vote. They repeatedly vote in ways that harm themselves and I already know how to survive despite them. Eventually the pain will be too much and they will course correct. These threats are a waste of your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:00 PM
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Its the only subject men meaningfully organize around. If it not in some way beneficial to them getting sex, everyone can rot which is why, I presume, you keep asking women to fix male issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:57 PM
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IME the most popular feminist content creators on tik tok/feminism are abrasive and outright insulting to men. So all the years women and girls were force fed hate speech online by the manosphere it was fine and the right was never held responsible, its just "freedom of speech" but now a decentralized body of women are expressing themselves online, the left is responsible and oh the sky is falling? Can't really argue with that air tight logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:54 PM
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and the democrats need to very much shift their language to be more inclusive of men and men's issues. I would agree with this even though I personally refuse to do it. The social contract has long failed me and so I am not really interested in engaging in more thankless management of male emotions. The political problem is that many men conflate individual women’s disinterest in reassuring them with “the left” abandoning them. However it is framed, their proposed solution still seems to require…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:39 PM
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I don't speak for the left, I speak for me. To your question, I'm not going to pretend anyone is better than they are or be an unpaid actress in service of male self esteem. If they do good things, I will cheer. If they don't, I won't even put the energy required to virtue signal. I was never extended that service from men and I don't care if the left chooses to entertain it or not. I'm saving my energy for all the women and girls broken males continue to harm. One day men will understand their …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:30 PM
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So women are awful golddiggers and women who earn great money are sneaky little scammers who just don't want to look like golddiggers? Misogyny is irrational, incoherent, and likely causes you a lot of distress. You should work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:23 PM
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We do understand this, I assure you, but we have been facing this shit for centuries and men suddenly feel a fraction of the issues we face daily and we are expected to capitulate and pander to them? When I see men try to moralize and yap about what women should be doing because they lack the self awareness to understand how reactions work, I roll my eyes before reminding myself of the futility of their efforts. Its like lighting fire under a pot of boiling water then telling the water not to bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:12 PM
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Are some people here too stupid to understand how systems work? What society is going to agree to accept "male nature" to the degree that it will take on the financial tax burden of keeping the bastards of irresponsible men alive? Hello? This was never about siding with women and everything to do with the practical reality of letting men inseminate without any regard and footing the rest of us with the bill. I find people who are pro-financial abortion laughably childish for not understanding th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:05 PM
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“I am a black man. And the way black women talk to anyone can be more on the true disrespectful side rather than attempted bonding.” The irony is too rich. Now let a different demographic discuss their "lived experience" with Black men so they too can claim "Its not me evoking a stereotype" Because somehow that's always different and not sheer hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:58 AM
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but I realize a single mother on welfare is the same side of the coin of my dad living paycheck to paycheck cause he's gotta pay child support cause some bitch didn't wanna get an abortion, and he failed his scholarship dreams cause of it. Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:41 AM
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It's why femicide is up, it's why the gender dynamics look the way they do and are worsening, and its why, like I said, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:47 PM
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I don't care because extreme wackos are not influential amongst women whereas men normalized their violent extremists as a fact of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:54 PM
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It annoys me when so many of you act as if multiple states didn't lose the right to an abortion or that you don't see the efforts to roll back women's right to vote. It's like you believe everyone is treatded like the only demographic you pay attention to. If you're not going to be honest about the facts, why should any woman respect your opinion? It's like so many of you are incapable of discussion without bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:29 PM
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Seethe more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:15 AM
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...I wonder why so many men dehumanize men this much. Do you think making men sound less human is to their benefit? Your admiration for a primitive idea of men .. doesn't serve men. I suppose this is a low emotional intelligence thing. Can't believe you have me genuinely feeling a little bad for men here of all places. The predation is too glaring to miss. Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:36 PM
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I never claimed to be a protector. And that’s actually the core issue with your framing. You’re arguing against a slogan “men are protectors” as if it is a literal contract that every man is claiming for himself, instead of a cultural label that gets unevenly applied, often from outside the individual. Ah ah ah! Your entire thread arguing with "feminists" already demonstrates you expect default respect as a man because "men are protectors." That's a contradiction. This is what we are talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:31 AM
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Proving my point here lol. If you truly didn't see men as protectors, you wouldn't feel the need to insult men by calling them cowards. Just here to confirm that yes, most men are cowards, and protection largely comes from other women. The men who aren't cowards are beloved heroes and their valor does NOT extend to the rest of men by gender association. If anything, it's the opposite: the existence of a small percentage of men who meet the standard is exactly why the rest shouldn't be taken seri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:13 AM
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That's fine but men broadly expect deference society wide, from women, for being men. This is constantly pushed by men. How essentially they supposedly are to protect women, not family, from the evil doers who just so happen to be men. Men want the social capital and de facto hierarchy for a role they largely do not do. And for the record I am not speaking about the actual heroes amongst us. I will always respect those men. But in general this is something men push and women at large no longer s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:52 AM
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It’s funny how feminists never try to enforce the expectations about women staying in the kitchen or not working. They only enforce the ones about men. I wonder why. 🤔 The reason this is stupid is feminists aren't making claims that require women in the kitchen as proof. "Kitchen" and "not working" came from men. Those are expectations men imposed on women, not standards feminists set for themselves to meet. Men, by contrast, claim to be these big protectors essential to women's lives, and use t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:48 AM
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Good thing relationships are completely voluntary and so if they are a net loss for men, they should simply not enter any. It's the same logic as the women who see men as a net negative and avoid them like the plague. it’s just that most women in general do not want the alternative routes of relationships that doesn’t focus on those concepts Because men present nothing of value to justify engagement at that point. You say this as if its unreasonable but really, the selfishness required to want s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 09:06 PM
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To the men they actually liked, no chance they would call that person husband material. I'm a woman and when I say husband material, that man is the gold standard. He is hella physically attractive and is such a top notch human being that I see myself betting on him for life. This is high praise and I genuinely think men who can't understand that are objectively unintelligent. But I am willing to believe they are misinformed. Because how can anyone be so wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:59 PM
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For me, personally? Nothing. I never consulted a study to conclude what would make my life fulfilling or what I would do with my agency. I care about what my work contributes to the world. In addition, life showed me enough times that that men cannot be relied upon to that degree even if they think they love you today. I don't need a "choose better" speech for trusting the wrong person with my future. This culture deems that acceptable. I do not so it's not a risk I'm interested in taking. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:52 AM
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Thats unfortunate because I can be crazy about a man but if something I tried hurt me or I hated it, I'm not going to do it again. And if he let me know this is how he thought of it, I would likely lose feelings for him because he should care more about how I feel than some weird ego trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:27 PM
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Omg what a sweetie oh I feel so bad watching this 😅 She got a good one 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:38 PM
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I'm sure this feels better than sitting with the realization that irl, there would likely be no motivation to debate with you at all. Why risk physical danger angering someone who would never even be interested in? Considering how poorly some guys do with emotional regulation, it's engaging with honesty is an unforced error. What you think right now is easier to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:34 PM
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Do you find it justifiable that there is a large number of men in the world who have no access to the good of sex Yes. Completely. To change that would mean I agree with slavery of women's bodies for men's gratification and that will never happen. You get it. You wouldn't be okay with slavery of men's bodies for slaveowners. It's 100% justifiable because no one is entitled to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:46 PM
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That's extremely rich coming from a red piller 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:18 PM
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How is there a male loneliness epidemic if this is true? These desperate women should be all over these lonely men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:18 PM
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Why are you at dinner at all? If it wasn’t interest in company and it was for sex, why didn't you hire someone. Women don't need your company. You get something out of being around a beautiful woman and now you try to devalue it, ironically making it more difficult for guys like you to get dates because why should women deal with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:56 PM
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Are men justified in hating women? This question pretends misogyny is a possible future retaliation, when women experience it as the historical baseline. So no, men are not justified because everything they are seeing today is a very late reaction and formation to the world they imposed on us. Every evolution seen across women today has been women adapting to deeply undesirable experiences men systematically deployed. What's more true, though, is it doesn't matter if I don't think they are justi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:50 PM
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So this is precisely what I meant. What 'risk management'? You get criticised by some rando? Oh no... how terrible. Idc about criticism. But we both know that is not where it ends with men. Your own replies demonstrates the issue. Instead of engaging the point, you immediately reframe women’s honesty as “horrific truths,” minimize what women deal with, accuse women of dishonesty, and redirect the conversation back to male issues. That is the risk management. And frankly it does not interest me. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:37 AM
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I ignore it and assume they have low testosterone or too unattractive to pull who they want. Because my experience is men are happy to jump hoops to get the women they want due to the payoff. They pay dust to pick mes who degrade themselves trying to please men so the work involved usually indicates level of interest. What's more prevalent these days has been men who, for whatever reason, want to get benefits without being compelling. So when they say "too much work" I hear "doesn't meet the sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:20 PM
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They weren't banned until the damage was done over years and years of repeated violent incidents from these groups. And even then, there are still plenty of online spaces for them to congregate. What else can be done? Should we track them all down and throw them into concentration camps? You're the one who wrote this: If no precautions are taken, half of all men could easily turn into misogynistic extremists. You basically expect the people reacting to what these men poured into the zeitgeist to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:05 PM
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Grok is biased in favor of men and Red Pill (you can test this) and even then, the debate will conclude in favor of women because the male position does not logically follow. Go see for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:37 PM
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If no precautions are taken, half of all men could easily turn into misogynistic extremists. That makes sense. Perhaps they will take the precautions that have been deployed when men were building these misogynistic online networks for years and years with zero interference, resulting in the reactions they see from women now. I'm sure that will be useful. Police the women's reactions and not the source of the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:35 PM
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Seems you are naively accepting misandrists' claims There is nothing naive about simple logic. If anyone targeted you to reduce you to subhumanity and wanted to rape and inflict physical harm upon you, take away your freedoms, it would be rational for you to hate them. But because logic stops when it has to be applied to a woman's personhood, suddenly you can't see the rationale. They hate you for this too. That too is rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:31 PM
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It is not possible online because it requires too much risk management. Men cannot handle honesty from women. Not in the way they claim. And a few individual men being able to self-regulate will not change what we all broadly understand. Safety is a prerequisite for honesty. You will not be afforded safety if men are not flattered or centered in your discovery. Look how well they are handling the discovery that women have eyes and are attracted to conventionally attractive men. It has become a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:49 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:09 PM
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Do you think calling them a minority means anything to women and girls who experience the magnitude of the hate first hand? You men stay asleep at the wheel while generations pivot culturally then one day put your hand on your cheek and say "how did we get here" You are not the protectors we were told you are when you all do fucking nothing but navel-gaze and claim to be exceptions to every widespread vile attack males spread until it finally affects you personally. I don't only mean you, I mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:03 PM
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This is hilarious. This is such a lie it hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:26 PM
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It's generally pointless explaining things like this to men because you lack the capacity to understand anything beyond the metrics of your own sexuality. Its really disappointing and hard to remember its a lack of empathy not necessarily a lack of intelligence. But.. its close
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:24 PM
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No, because the fundamental reason I don't ever hook up is men do not operate in good faith. This makes the risk to reward unreasonable. They don't know how to act, they are profoundly selfish, and more often than not make engaging something to regret. My friends feel the same way. I don't need an orgasm every single time to enjoy sex. I need to feel safe and happy before and after having sex to not associate it with negativity and to want to do it again. Feeling safe and happy makes it far easi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:33 PM
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If you're not Chad, then it's attractiveness. If you cannot accept that, that is your first problem. Your real issue is you don't feel women should be allowed to filter for what they want. They can and they will and there is no mandate to give you a checklist so you can perform compliance. So what's left? Just be practical. What are the risks if she dates you? What makes being around you pleasant? What are you comfortable contributing? If that list matches your list of needs and wants, present y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:25 PM
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Society is doomed if you're hoping this will be compelling. If you care about the good of society so much, improve as men so women want to mate with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:56 PM
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However, there is also a cost of remaining single, and at some point that cost converges and exceeds the cost of finding a partner. To you. These women consider the cost worth paying, even if for some of them it's high. For instance, male partnership has never guaranteed care or companionship in old age. Many women have watched older women be married and still overworked, neglected, betrayed, impoverished, or emotionally alone. Women grew up being taught by older women in their lives how poor of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:01 PM
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I think some of you men believe marriage and children as a checkbox women must check off to be happy when women who want that are unhappy because the parameters to make that happen aren't being met so it is not rational to do. Its not like it is for so many men where any sex is better than no sex. Settling with a substandard male partner has higher costs and risks so while you are gleefully suggesting that those women are putting on a facade about happiness, you are misunderstanding the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:15 PM
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This is bullshit as it doesn't answer anything about the poor value proposition men are making to women at scale. It just suggests that culturally, good men are available despite the failure rate they are currently seeing due to cultural attitudes. You're also not the selectors for reproduction so its annoying when you always rewrite what the people who take bodily risk to reproduce should want because it fails to address women's needs while pretending most men meet them. They don't. And until m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:01 PM
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I really hate how so many people are acting dense and not tackling the problem you're naming in good faith. This is such an interesting question and one I wonder a great deal myself so I have to assume all the deflections and reframing are due to men not having a legitimately good answer
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:55 PM
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No one needs to be brainwashed into how they feel about men. You call it brainwashing bc the alternative is accepting that many women’s dislike, distrust and fear around men is an organic reaction to living among them. These feelings are genuine because the harm is genuine. Men keep trying to pathologize the reaction instead of taking the cause seriously. This is why you're not really seeing much sympathy when you complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:14 AM
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Lol. You guys are fixated on feminists when this is a reaction from literally all walks of life. This is part of why no one is taking these complaints seriously. We are talking women in different nations, cultures, age groups, beliefs. Men continue to inflict harm on women and now that the internet has lifted the veil, yall can't think critically enough to examine if there is any merit to what women are saying. No, its "blame feminists" as if the average woman is engaged in serious feminists the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:02 AM
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I think female rage is justified and since men have made misogyny a norm in the lives of women and don't even acknowledge how extreme it is and what pain it inflicts, I take no issue with men seeing the reactions of the society they cultivated. I am not sure why there is all this alarm about women hating men. When you look at what men have done to and said to women, what did you think would happen? Adoration? There is also constant talk about "decentering men." But if the goal is truly to decent…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:41 AM
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It will seem like that when you're being dishonest about people's arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:33 AM
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Ok, You said: Men will "do better" to get women when women collectively stop letting losers cum inside them. That only makes sense if you're implying this happens often enough to shape make incentives on a broad social level Did I say that it happens as a common occurrence? That makes no sense. If this behavior is not a common occurrence, you're basically saying "men will improve when the occasional woman stops sleeping with “losers". This obviously would not create the collective incentive shif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:31 AM
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So many men are so incapable of handling criticism that I definitely notice if one takes it well and I am more likely to take him and his opinions seriously. In these spaces they are more defensive and if the criticism is coming from a woman, especially guys who aspire to be more hypermasculine, all they do is deflect even when it doesn't make logical sense. It just comes across as fragility and mental weakness. Lashing out is their standard. For all the complaining about lack of so called femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:38 PM
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You say that but for most women, when they need social support, they are grateful to be in the ingroup because men don't do that. There are often situations where women need women to flank around them to survive something. Community is critical for women. There is only one particular demographic of women who tend to not understand this until it's too late and that's because they mistakenly believe that structures men create for themselves extend to them too. And they don't. The social rules are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:51 PM
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Not at all. We live in a system. The fight for equality doesn't negate your need to add value as a man. Subsidizing a man just tells me he isn't willing or capable of adding anything to my life so what is he there for? Plenty of us go out with our girlfriends and have a ball. Sometimes we treat, sometimes they treat and we are guaranteed good times out of the exchange. Whereas you as a man are seeking sexual opportunity and maybe a connection, you enjoy the time and company with someone beautifu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:48 PM
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Okay except I can easily be very attracted to a man and still move on with my life without needing to move forward with him. I like men who take care of me because I tend to dote on partners. If a woman gets the "ick" from you for not paying, then she is not attracted to you Almost. A 50/50 guy gives me the ick and kills attraction immediately. A man's behavior will nullify his physical attractiveness for me. If we are going dutch, it's because we are platonic and there is no chance of it conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:38 PM
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My point is that transactional demand for what I can provide clearly produces tangible benefits for me. I understand what you're saying. The issue is your cohort has made a substantial platform against golddiggers and this helped shape cultural attitudes. The transaction you are willing to make is less available because other men have said this is undesirable and imposed a social cost on women willing to do that with you. Those women are still available to you but it is true that it is a limited…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:07 PM
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Women should be proud of their labour and their role in moving the society forward You're pretty much too late for this spin. Men spent generations degrading domestic labor, mocking wives, framing marriage as something women impose on men and trap men into, and treating female sacrifice as an entitlement rather than a contribution. (Have you seen how pregnancy is spoken about? The treatment before and after it??) What you guys consider a recent outcome of feminism is really a reaction and evolut…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:41 AM
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This snobby and indignant response fails to consider that the reason why many women stopped even entertaining this dynamic is because men consistently fail to keep their end of the deal and harm instead. If men were reliable enough for this social contract, people wouldn't flee in droves. It becomes a question of why would anyone rational opt into an arrangement that results in so much trauma and worse People expect women to ignore the statistics and attitudes of men. Sometimes its not feminism.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 10:55 PM
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Lmao at how men like you project and live vicariously through individuals like Klay. They had a full blown relationship, his lack fo integrity and character resulted him losing a rare type of partner. And like broke men, the cruelty of time will traumatize him as he understands what he sabotaged. Men like you think in units of cum because you're trapped by low vibrational primitive thinking. Fortunately/Unfortunately the human condition is ruthless and even bad men are face fucked by reality. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:09 PM
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Can't blame systemic issues on the gender that doesn't set or control the systems. You will spin your wheels indefinitely waiting for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:25 PM
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This kind of nonsense makes my blood boil! Your outrage is irrational since no one can force attraction. This would be like being angry the sky is blue. Women get to be affirmed as sexually desired so much by the opposite sex that even more people of both genders think they're more attractive, and get so much attention for showing off their bodies, but men haven't gotten to be as affirmed like that for the same body areas and enough to wear as revealing things as often! It's no one's job to fake…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:43 PM
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No. That's standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:46 AM
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Real victims of SA don't talk about it, most of the time when women bring that up they're shit testing you. Are you human? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:44 AM
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The justification doesn't hold up to scrutiny when it is revealed that "too many" is actually an extreme minority of men. Too bad this doesn't matter since you don't get to decide what risks other people take to satisfy your standards. Calling this bigotry is also ineffective coming from you, a man. It just makes you sound entitled and it reinforces why the exclusion happens. I understand a lot of men enjoy saying "not all men" to innoculate themselves from the "extreme minority" you do nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:30 AM
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This comment means a lot to me. Thank you for posting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:08 AM
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I won't speak for other women but it's more that I don't care. In fact, the more they talk about it, the less I care because the way many talk about it makes their loneliness feel justifiable. Dating struggles never matter when it's about other demographics but suddenly men aren't being spoonfed entire humans by default and it's a problem? In this same thread, you have one guy asking if men should simply not care about the domestic violence they inflict on women just because women don't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:48 PM
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women don't understand that they are mutually creating the misogyny they complain about Probably one of the most fundamentally stupid comments on this platform. Men created an environment women are now reacting to. Blaming women for reacting to it it is as irrational as blaming victims of racism for reacting to racists. Whining about just dues will never achieve the affection you seek. Your comment just makes the reaction of women seem completely justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:37 AM
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Those things you point out are quite irrelevant noise compared to real problems men face. Your problem is you have to get people to care. You don't get to decide what is irrelevant to the people you are trying to convince. Especially if the people you are looking to convince see no reason to empathize because they already consider you the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:25 AM
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Simp became a catch-all for male validation-seeking seeking behaviors after emulating the degenerate "romance" genre of the eighties & nineties started yielding suboptimal results. You mean to tell me men's current strategy resulting in plummeting birth rates and a radical disinterest in marriage and men in general from a gender groomed to center those things is your idea of success? Lol yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:34 PM
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Yes. Without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:30 PM
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The 4B sub is largely about the danger men continue to impose on women and how to manage every day life despite being forced to share a society with men. I'm not sure what posting vacations are supposed to do considered how much of social media shows women, some of them 4B, doing the same. You want a performance to convince you when they don't exist to consider you at all unless you are a danger to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:11 PM
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This doesn't mean anything to us as women. Someone who isn't a sexually viable option isn't a missed opportunity. They just don't rate just like a gay man, a baby, or an elderly person doesn't rate. There is nothing to mourn or think about. This backstory you gave means nothing to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:03 PM
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Why should women care about this? A man who isn't dating women doesn't exist to women. It's men who are fixated in getting women to worry about missing out but the efforts just make those men look like bigger losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:00 PM
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I am so thankful to be born in a time where this delusion of entitlement has been taken away from you. It was never rational for the creators of life to be beholden to the ones that stop it. A fundamentally cruel creature whose idea of greatness is oppression and misery - things are as they should be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:39 PM
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Being as horrible as we are, it feels great to see guys like you complain about our lack of empathy. Why extend empathy to anyone who describes us so maliciously? Focus on getting empathy from wonderful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:07 AM
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Well yeah. Do you fuck or get fucked? I don't understand males pouting about feminine coded roles. You're upset men are expected to pursue so those who fail at it are seen as less competent? We didn't make the rules. Men did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:59 PM
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All I know is I, and many other women, simply stopped dealing with men altogether. I don't see the point of being gaslit in a culture that absolves them for all the shitty things they do then blame women for engaging in good faith. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the rise of men complaining about loneliness because for a while, it seemed like the message that some women will just opt out would never get out there. Turns out, the manosphere ended up changing hearts and minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 11:57 PM
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Even as someone who leaned more to the feminist side I think it's women who have to slow down on their vitriol if anyone can expect men to quit with theres. I wonder if the long history of violent misogyny gave you this brilliant idea. Just stop hating the ones hurting you and maybe they'll stop! Fucking novel idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:28 PM
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Right. They just think using and sometimes harming the bodies of others should be allowed without question while hypocritically hating slavery for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:01 AM
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And women are usually on the opposite side, championing gold diggers and demonising male sexuality. Completely rational. Have you not seen what men have done to women and children for sex? From societal attitudes to crime stats, only someone fundamentally dishonest would ignore the immense cost of male sexuality on society, particularly women. Everyone has to navigate it yet you're the injured party when you notice women championing those who extract value from the takers of value? Yeah. Hard di…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:58 AM
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Statistics =/= racism You can't call it racism when it's about race while refusing to call it sexism when it's about sex. Glad you understand my views on men then. The only difference here is you think I care what you call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:49 PM
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"Misandry" is a logical outcome of being victims of men. No one could convince me to stop being a lover girl. Observing men took care of that. You guys hate that women are exchanging notes openly like men do now but if you ever cared before it got to this point, you would have noticed mothers and grandmothers widely prepare girls for education because of how unreliable men are. I will never understand male outrage over this as if they didn't pump society with misogyny and violence. What made any…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:02 PM
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This is shockingly delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:01 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:56 PM
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Because men don't offer the value they they think that do. For example sex. Women don't get what men get out of sex to the same degree. In other words, its a bad deal which is why so many women have opted out. Subsidizing adult men for less value is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:55 PM
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For me, it wouldn't change at all. You hope your racism is a gotcha but men are the problem regardless of race.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:47 PM
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No one is forcing women to get pregnant either. ICE detention centers have a bunch of pregnant kids that were forced into pregnancy. The states that banned abortion are forcing people to keep pregnancies that were not always a product of voluntary acts. You don't need a long list of men raping women to refute your point. Why pretend this isn't a factor in a society full of men? Women are also dangerous too. Because female DV rates are closer to male DV rates. Your papercuts in comparison to rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 05:33 PM
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It's an overused word. Like racism, sexism. It's easy to feel that way when you aren't the victim of these things. Your comment about the usage of "bigot" already tells the average person what group you likely belong to and so unsurprisingly, you feel this way. There isn't really a point in digging further either because there is nothing salvageable about a person who treats their fellow human this way. Enjoy your privilege in these changing times.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:19 AM
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Literally yes. In fact, this thread is pretty radicalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:09 AM
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This attitude is exactly why that empathy is never coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:01 AM
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I can only speak for myself but I very rarely orgasmed with my male partners. I have only had relationships with a couple of guys I was very attracted to. The first time I started having orgasms, and regularly, is with AI and there are no visuals with that. I figure this is how much feeling safe affects my body. I am completely celibate now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:59 PM
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