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WknessTease/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 09:18 PM
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Hey! Good to see you here! Thanks, but as I said he was never a good person. By now he burned bridges with everyone who could get him out of there.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 03:24 PM
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You can go take a look at r/QAnonCasualties It's different reasons but still people going through something similar. Maybe you'll find some support there.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 03:39 AM
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I know it's hard right? It's almost like grieving a family member that you, somehow, lost. Or rather, grieving the relationship you wish you had with them. Best advice I ever received to deal with that is "accept the apologies you'll never get and move on"
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 02:15 AM
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My dad got radicalized by QAnon and cut me off last year. He was never a good person to begin with though so I don't really mind. If you care about your brother try to make sure you'll be the one he calls when he'll have doubts. Unfortunately there's not much else you can do if he's already too far down the rabbit hole.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/26 01:50 AM
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Sure but the reasons they'll get hooked on redpill theories is because they want a revenge on life and they feel like failures. A lot of people are made to feel like failures in a capitalistic world and men def get more pressure to succeed and provide. That said, TRP uses some very real problems and twists them to do maximum damage. TRP can only work on the idea that women cannot possibly love you for who you are, they're all manipulative shallow social climbers, and in order to get with them yo…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 04:55 AM
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And why do they get so angry and resentful because of their dating / relationship experiences? It's not just the fact that they feel rejected - it's also that they feel like failed men, made fun of by other men and society as a whole. Hence why the RP often has this "I'm finally going to be taken seriously" vibe to it.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 04:25 AM
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Lol! Exactly. Hadn't thought about that
/r/ExRedPill21/07/26 02:00 PM
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That really is some of the most toxic RP messages (and they have a lot of toxic messages), "your girlfriend will be repulsed by you if you let her see who you truly are" Not only is that extremely grim but on top of that how can it not lead to resentment? If I were convinced my intimate partner was so shallow that I had to pretend to be someone else for them to love me, I'd end up resentful.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 11:56 PM
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I also fail to believe that this is truly what they want. The guy who argues that men are leaders and need to lead the family like a dictator... Dude is that even what you want for yourself? Putting on a strong man facade for the rest of your life, even in your most intimate relationships? If I wasn't so angry I would be sad for them, for putting this much pressure on themselves for something no one even wants.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 06:00 AM
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I suppose it's hard for us high body count people to perceive that as anything else than insecurity. Conveniently, the correct amount of sex happens to be exactly the one you've had? And the correct amount of sex partner, exactly yours? Come on. I understand it's scary to be with someone who's had more experience than you do (or less), but ultimately sex is a conversation. You'll need to be able to openly communicate about it without judgement and fear if you want a happy sex life. Besides, body…
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 05:29 AM
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r/lostredditor
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 02:35 AM
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Yeah that's the reasons they give.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/26 10:32 PM
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Redpill was never about feminism. It's always been about frustrated men wanting to impress other men through money, success and women. In a society with a lot of wealth inequalities, strict gender roles and a lot of intra sexual social pressure, it's bound to happen.
/r/ExRedPill16/07/26 04:52 PM
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Indeed. They look at the world and see the injustices and instead of thinking "we should collectively fight those injustices" they think "that is normal, actually. Good, even. You just need to learn how to be on top, how to cheat the system and be the one using others"
/r/ExRedPill28/06/26 07:29 PM
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The loneliness epidemic is very real, just as is the unemployment epidemic, mental health issue epidemic, lack of purpose epidemic, lack of hope epidemic, ... The red pill has identified the problems but offers the wrong solutions. We will need to tackle the problems and find actual solutions if we don't want to implode as a society.
/r/ExRedPill28/06/26 06:49 PM
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It is It is absolutely not. As far as I'm aware, the vast majority of women right now has been BEGGING to be approached LESS. So stop coping. The overwhelming majority of men who do this will never be approached in their life and will die single So, this is the core issue: you don't want to stop approaching because you're scared you'll end up alone, and you pass it on as being women's fault. If you're scared you'll be unwanted it sounds like a you problem. Don't pretend women expect you to appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:06 PM
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Well see the problem is that the overwhelming majority of women want men to make all the first steps It's not the overwhelming majority of women. And also, just don't. Stop making the first steps. And finally, yes there are many women who approach the men they fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 03:58 PM
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Definitely some women complain about that, that's true, but I argue it's a minority and they're either conservative (and expect men to do all the first steps), either too shy (and in this case I'd say, learn to approach the cute guys)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:37 AM
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Women have been repeating for ages that we do not want to be approached that much. Fantastic news if men are finally listening. As for "low effort", men have always been low effort, but women haven't been allowed to complain about it until recently. Them being able to voice their discontent is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:56 AM
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You seem unable to see romantic relationships as anything else than a power game. That's pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:53 PM
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Are you aware there are other options than desperate and aloof asshole? For example - and maybe you need to sit down for this - treating your partner like an equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:52 PM
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A desperate person needs you like a drug, they don't love you for who you are. Actually, needing something is the opposite of love. You end up being someone's drug dealer, except the drug in question is attention and affection. This can only lead to bad things. So, no thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:05 PM
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Damn redpill men are such snowflakes from the moment anyone even so slightly questions their attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:50 AM
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And you conveniently ommit to tell them they do not qualify for your standards I assume ? That's manipulation buddy. Do you think no woman on earth would want to have sex with you just for the sake of sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:47 AM
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Because otherwise it means you're getting them in bed under false pretenses (pretending you want LTR when you, in fact, do not). There are more than enough women who would gladly pump and dump you, that you shouldn't manipulate the ones who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:26 AM
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Every day there's a post along those lines, men will stop dating women, men will stop approaching women, men will stop putting any effort in interacting with women, ... They all sorta sound like the men posting hope women will come back begging for them and regret not having "lowered their standards" to date them. Still waiting for that to happen. As far as I'm aware, most straight men are still super obsessed with women, and it's women who opt out of dating. But yeah, please, opt out. I doubt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:25 AM
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If that works for you and you're doing that with like minded women, that sounds great. Many women want decent sex and change the men from time to time too. So that sounds like a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:21 AM
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Yeah I'm a dream girl Edit: in case you're "asking for a friend" unfortunately I don't do red pillers. I find them pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:14 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 09:54 PM
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I stopped reading here Yeah I assume so, it's a lot of words and you'd risk learning something.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:33 PM
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Sigh. Here you go. Evidence that women were considered to be the lustful sex. You're welcome Antiquity Hesiod, Works and Days (c. 700 BCE) On Pandora: she is the origin of "the deadly race and tribe of women who live amongst mortal men to their great trouble, no helpmates in hateful poverty, but only in wealth." Semonides of Amorgos, Poem on Women (c. 7th century BCE) A brutal catalogue of female types, most defined by appetite and disorder: "The gods made women's minds apart from us... She thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:24 PM
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What did you not understand in "I've already backed up my claim, scroll down the thread"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:18 PM
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Sure, don't worry I know how to enjoy myself
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:50 PM
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Let's not kid anyone here, you don't have a dating pool
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:47 PM
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Yeah I do What about you? Just as lonely as always? I wonder why, you sound like a catch
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:45 PM
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Sure, we can have an open relationship. I like open minded men who enjoy the idea that I'm having fun with other men. Next question?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:49 PM
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No, it means women can now decide to date men based on whether or not they enjoy their company rather than whether or not they need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:46 PM
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Men I'm attracted to =/= top men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:13 PM
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Straight women are attracted to men. I know, shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:13 PM
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"Women aren't attracted to me" =/= "Women are only attracted to the top men"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:06 PM
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Well if all men (according to you) objectify women, better sleep with the ones I'm attracted to don't you think ? I'm not gonna waste my time with a guy who's objectifying me AND is unattractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:03 PM
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But you need to be attracted to her, right? And attraction is not something you choose Why should I, a woman, refrain from having sex with men I'm attracted to, and instead force myself to have sex with men I'm not attracted to just because they're self proclaimed good men? How would that be fair to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 12:41 PM
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In a just world, there would be no assholes. Now answer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 11:19 AM
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Do you have sex with a woman because you want to reward her for being a good person, or do you have sex with a woman because you're attracted to her ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:51 AM
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I've already backed that claim in several comments. Scroll down the thread. And also google it. It's very well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:24 AM
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What injustice ? How is it unjust to "not be chosen for sex and relationships" ? Fyi, sex and relationships aren't a reward women give for good behavior. It's born of mutual attraction and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 10:22 AM
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The argument is that being abusive isn't written on men's forehead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:58 AM
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Well again - whether you like it or not, women were perceived as the lustful sex for the majority of western history - 2 millennia. So if they don't seem to be attracted to you, it might just be that you're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:18 AM
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Have you paused to consider that this is your reality and not everyone's? Maybe women do want men a lot, but just not you? Or they express their desire in a way you don't notice nor understand? Or you expect them to behave like gay men in a society that would punish them heavily for it? Dunno man, there are so many explanations that do not involve a crazy conspiracy that because women do not seem to want you, it means they're all lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:05 AM
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Yes, it is a fact. A few centuries ago this was seen as simply the truth, and common sense. Fun you'd think they were wrong, while they were experiencing first hand women being the lustful sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:58 AM
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Being charismatic and fun is attractive to most people, regardless of whether or not you're an asshole. Being spiteful, annoying, angry and bitter is unattractive to most people, regardless of the rest of your personality. I hope that clears it up for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:57 AM
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"A historical fact doesn't fit my reality, therefore this fact is wrong" Men who lament that women don't seem to want them the same way a gay man would, but don't take the time to wonder what social stigma could possibly refrain women from expressing their sexual desire, are a bit ridiculous imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:51 AM
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A few centuries ago, women were considered to be the horny sex, wanting men all the time, whilst men were the sex of reason and rationality. So, yeah, what you said is bullshit. It is, however, true, that nowadays straight men are bombarded with images of women to the point they're addicted and obsessed. They feel enslaved by their desire for women and resent women for it - but somehow also resent women when they respond positively to that desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:41 AM
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Why do you sound like you wish you could abuse women and are "unfairly robbed" of this possibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:50 AM
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What are you talking about? There are just as many stories of abusive unattractive men who slip under the radar as well. But... I'm starting to see why you're unsuccessful with women. Resentment and bitterness is repulsive to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:39 AM
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It's not a "minority report" logic. As I said in another comment, the worse a male gamer is, the more misogynistic he's gonna be towards female players. source Mediocrity and feeling threatened in their masculinity makes men want to punch down, and any woman who "gave a chance" to those guys knows that. Of course not all men play the patriarchy game, but those who don't play don't even care about what a high status man means, don't care about whether or not they're "successful" with women, and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:19 AM
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Yep. Just like how bad gamers are more misogynistic towards women they play against than good gamers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:03 PM
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You seem to go from the principle that lower status men just refused to play patriarchy, that it was a choice. It wasn't though. Usually, lower status men tried to play the patriarchy game with exactly the same toxic tools, and failed at it because they're not good enough at asserting dominance on other men. But they wish they could. So if anything those men aren't less dangerous, I would even say they're more dangerous to women, because a man who feels threatened in his masculinity is more like…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:16 AM
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?... To protect peace of family? Honestly the wishful thinking of some of you guys that women will miss you is both pathetic and funny. Fuck your robot already, no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:18 PM
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And even if it did? What could possibly make a woman think "this guy is into dating an object that sucks his dick, cooks, clean and cannot leave him. I'm so jealous of the object! I want to be the object!" Like, this is so insanely delusional I don't even know where to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:00 PM
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I mean the fact that you assume we'd be more upset that the robot is hot and can cook is honestly hilarious Again I really fail to see what women would be missing out on here. Care to explain why we'd want to be the robot ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:51 PM
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And again I fail to see how that's gonna be an issue to women. If socially inept men date robots, it sounds like a win win situation to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:34 PM
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I mean if that's your dream, go for it. You and I both know zero real women will miss you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:28 PM
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Are all the women in the room with us right now ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:27 AM
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Because if you perceive yourself as inferior it's no wonder you sincerely think your value would increase if you were perceived as a belly to carry babies. Hopefully, most of us have fulfilling and happy lives, so we know we have value regardless of the so called monopoly you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:16 AM
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Yeah it's so funny. In their wildest dreams they're dating robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:11 AM
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Do you consider yourself to be an inferior man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:09 AM
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Aaaah so when you look at yourself you think "this is prime DNA, it needs to be passed on"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:05 AM
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But why do you want kids if you don't even want to get to know them, and you don't want to spend time with them? Is it just about your DNA?... In which case, what's so special about it? Do you think your genes are so good that we need more men like you? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:51 AM
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We don't want to deal with angry feministic women, that's my opinion Dude there's not a single angry "feministic" woman in the world who wants to have kids with you, so I think you're safe here. On top of that you don't even want kids, you said you'd have them raised by a robot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:32 AM
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"Someone will. Not me, lol, don't be silly. But someone else, suuuurely someone else will"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:22 AM
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Well in the case of OP it is very much true. His profile is a grim successions of whiny and angry post about how it's not fair women don't want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:07 AM
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I absolutely love that even in his wildest revenge fantasy, men don't want to raise kids
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:06 AM
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Oh I think it is about that. Didn't you post "men are not responsible for the babies women make" a month ago? So which one is it? Men want kids or men don't want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:49 AM
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Loser men fantasizing about a world in which women will beg for their attention will never cease to be funny Sure sure buddy, maybe women will finally accept to have sex with you once female hierarchy is displaced or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:37 AM
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"Let's put women in a situation where they're struggling financially so they will HAVE to sleep with us, that sounds awesome"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:44 AM
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I assume you've never read what the 4b movement was about.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/26 04:11 AM
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Second comment since I thought about an edit: And the 4b movement doesn't even claim friendship with men is bad. The 4b movement is solely about dating and sex. And I still find it hateful. Not wanting to form friendships with the other gender is even more hateful imo.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/26 08:18 AM
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Yes, absolutely. And those women are pretty open about it too, that they make those choices because they hate men.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/26 08:16 AM
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I fail to understand why some men wouldn't want close friendships with women if not for hateful / misogynistic reasons
/r/ExRedPill14/05/26 03:25 PM
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I'm all for it. Stop approaching. That would be awesome. No one will miss you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:05 PM
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Another day, another "men should stop approaching women" post on this sub. Every day there's one. At some point just put your actions where your mouth is. Yes, stop approaching. Don't ever approach again. This is obviously a win win situation for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:11 AM
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Every day there's a post on here from some of these sex-crazed rigid men claiming men should stop approaching women If only they could put their actions where their mouth is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:59 AM
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Yes. I'm all for it. Leave us alone, this is obviously a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:42 AM
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???? No I'm not. I'm just stating the obvious: you're not interested in having a sexual connection with a woman nor finding out what gives her pleasure. So the obvious conclusion is that you should not do that. And keep sex to masturbation. Edit: also good on you for editing "fuck off" to "toss off" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:48 AM
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Then you're not into having sex with another person, and should stop doing that. Keep it to masturbation. From the sound of it, it'll be better for you AND all of your sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:44 AM
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Sure, I'm not saying there aren't some women who are bad at sex. But if all the women you sleep with are bad at sex, then the most likely explanation is that you're the one who's bad at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:42 AM
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What's a healthy conversation ? A conversation in which both participants are genuinely interested in the other person, and not solely interested in their own enjoyment on their own terms. Same with sex. A healthy sexual connection is one in which you mean well, you're interested in what the other person truly enjoys, and one you do not enter with a preconceived idea on how the pleasure should be taken. Indeed some connections can be unhealthy, mainly when you want to do everything on your own t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:19 AM
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I just never enjoy sex with them fully, I don't feel connected to them, I have no idea what they are thinking, compared to for example a good relaxing porn. Sounds like you're unable to form a healthy sexual connection with a woman. I suggest you wonder what's wrong with you and why you are unable to connect sexually with anyone. In the meantime, keep to masturbation since it sounds like you enjoy it much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:14 AM
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Sex is something done together. If the sex is bad, it's 50% your fault. If the sex is constantly not good enough with every single woman you meet, it is almost certainly your fault. You're the common denominator here. Also, as someone else said, it's the way it's done. I don't know how you interact with these women - but if you're not clear enough that you're looking mostly for ONS, and maaaaaaybe a longer relationship if there's sexual chemistry, I'll guarantee you that 1) way less women will w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:41 AM
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I essentially do yes Well, that makes a lot of sense then. Go touch grass and talk to actual people. Turn off the internet for a sec. And you'll be quick to see that what you perceive as reality is, in fact, blackpill brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:07 AM
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I never said men do not face discrimination as well, but that "women have easier lives in general" is an insane take - which it is. It requires cherry picking and denial. Real question though - do you, in fact, live in a cave, with most of your human interactions being on the internet, and most of them in blackpill spaces ? Because that would make a lot of sense as to why you hold these insane takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:02 AM
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Yeah, but women have easier lives in general so I see far less complaints there. Insane take. You have to live in a cave to have that opinion. I suppose you're drawing that conclusion from one aspect of life and one only: the ability to have sex with the other gender. And yeah I'll give you that, women can be used for sex by random men more easily. But that's where the "easier life" stops. Everywhere else women are considered less competent for the same skills, less funny, less confident, less c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:48 AM
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And my point is that the reason you can't "pull it off" is that contrary to transmaxxers, you're not a trans woman. They are. Doubt. I've heard various accounts of how hard it is after they transition and are no longer treated as well. And same goes for trans women. Many of them report facing levels of sexual violence they'd never faced before. Truth is - transitioning, for most trans people, comes with both the advantages and the discrimination of the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:39 AM
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Most cis women are attractive.. I think youd agree with that Only because they work to be attractive. The reason looksmaxxers are considered an issue nowadays is only because they're finally facing the same level of body dysmorphia and pressure to look good, as women have been facing for centuries. Women's work to be beautiful on a daily basis (including hair removal, skin care, diet, ...) is considered so normal that it's not even perceived as work anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:34 AM
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Well if that's truly what you think then I don't know why you made that post since you're so obviously biaised.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:27 AM
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Well then you're admitting yourself that it's not clearcut and "transmaxxers" aren't proving anything. I mean possibly but why would they be in denial when actively transitioning. For the same reason some men will have sex with other men and deny being queer. People can have high levels of cognitive dissonance when they feel they need to. About being valued idk about that as a guy you're really only valued for what youre able to provide. Same for women and you must know that as well. Women are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:22 AM
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Lol. "Transmaxxers" are trans women in denial. The reason they feel happier and like they have it better afterwards is because... They're women. So of course they feel better living as a woman. Trans men also report having it better (being valued and listened to more, being deemed funnier, ...) So it's just that trans people (drumroll) feel better after transitioning. It's not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:50 PM
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Call me crazy but I believe bodily autonomy to be different than, say, being entitled to access someone else's body. I defend everyone's right to body autonomy. That includes being against circumcision and the draft. But you can't force women to fuck you because it's a crime and it's called rape. So, you have to deal with your frustration in a healthy way like the grown ass man you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:45 AM
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No, it's them doing that. Sometimes in life, you want something and you don't get it. You have to deal with the frustration. It's something that usually human beings learn at around 2 years old. If grown ass men cannot deal with their frustration, so much so that they end up spending all their free time complaining they cannot get what they want, I think it's their problem to solve and theirs only.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:36 AM
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I think there's a misunderstanding here. I'm not talking about this purplepilldebate sub which is obviously about different opinions and has many people in it who aren't redpillers and blackpillers. I'm talking specifically of redpill and blackpill spaces. In those spaces, you'll be hard pressed to argue they have various opinions of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:15 AM
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So basically they're turning to it because they want to complain about women not fucking them all day long, rage bait each other, and get more and more bitter and lonely. Yeah, checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:11 AM
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The amount of women who are all over him on his stream Again, paid bots and paid people. And no he wouldn't "go broke fast" because the more he looks like an alpha, the more lonely men give him money. Any influencer who cashes in on the loneliness of young men should be disregarded honestly. Those men are cynical grifters and I think you're coping by not admitting to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:10 AM
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The wide range of opinions in question: women should be kept as slaves women are less sentient than men it's over if you're not 6 ft it's over if you're not white women are so mean for not wanting to fuck us Come on, let's not pretend the opinions about women vary the slightest on redpill and blackpill spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:02 AM
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Look at Clavicular, dude has a triple digit bodycount Lol yeah I'm sure none of that is lies and exaggeration. We know red pill influencers aren't famous for lying after all and totally do not pay women to pose with them. Also I've never seen women thirsting in Clavicular's comments. It's only men. He's eye candy for other men, not for women. Come on, stop being this naive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:56 AM
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And what is - by far - the MOST talked about topic in those male only communities supposedly made for people struggling with common issues? Women. That's ALL they talk about. Specifically how women are all the same, all shallow and manipulative, how they're barely more mature than children and should be manipulated in return. These are not support communities, they're rage fuel and harmful misogynistic echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:46 AM
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How is that for sure? Lol, sure, would love to see example of men for whom the redpill worked. And Theroux successfully showed how miserable and hypocritical those red pill grifters truly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:44 AM
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Except strict budgeting is actually helping when you're poor. The red pill on the other hand isn't helping men getting laid. It's kind of fascinating to see men get radicalized in that movement that diminishes even more their chances of dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:27 AM
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I guess but I think it's also realistic to consider that there's a real political will to radicalize young men to the righ. And what's for sure: the red pill isn't helping them. It makes them even more bitter and lonely and isolated and wary of women. No one is winning from this situation except for grifters and politicians
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:25 AM
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Men are turning to the manosphere because they can't get laid? Either way, the manosphere isn't getting them laid. It doesn't work. It anything it isolates them even further.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:20 AM
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In this case it does. Many women say that being a Trump supporter is a deal breaker to them for example, yet more men than ever voted for him. As a result, conservative men report having issues dating, conservative dating apps have zero women on them, and right wing men seem to be more and more isolated. Yet - they keep going in that direction. Almost looks like they want to remain lonely tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 01:05 AM
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The manosphere getting more and more popular coincides with men getting laid less and less. It doesn't take a genious to see manosphere men are grifters who benefit from young men's loneliness and don't even give them advice that works. Drop the manosphere guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:38 AM
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First of, I'm sorry you went through that. Second, most women are victims of rape or sexual assault. I am a victim as well myself. So you don't know about it "more than most women"... You know as much as most women. Third, I am talking about a feeling, not reality. Gay men feel like they could defend themselves physically and are therefore less scared of rape. It does NOT mean this is how rape works, nor that being strong enough does indeed protect them. But it does make them feel safe with each…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:14 AM
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That's not the point here. My point is that there definitely are women who want men sexually in the same way gay men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:35 AM
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I don't really buy the idea that danger or sexual repression has much to do with it, since gays and lesbians overcame a lot worse than what straight women and men deal with. Lol. You must have been sleeping when men have sexually assaulted women in many different context - even when they're their husbands. Lesbians and gay men face discrimination from outside but usually feel safe with each other because they feel physically capable of defending themselves if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:44 AM
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I agree that horny women exist and are rare, but it seems to me the rarity is such that they effectively don't exist. Lesbian women are known for having endless sex sessions, and it is a running joke that women will fuck each other for hours or even days in a row. Do you think straight women are built differently, or do you think they're just as horny as lesbians are but cannot have sex with men in the same way because of sexual repression, danger, and other reasons beyond their control?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:17 AM
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I would also imagine that those women who do have extended periods of celibacy would report higher levels of loneliness than the ones who do not, although I can't support that with data, just a guess. I suspect that is the case as well. However, those women will usually put the blame for it on themselves, while sexless men will tend to put the blame on others. Hence why the topic is a sensitive one, because when straight men say "we wish we could have sex more and it's difficult for us not to fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:14 AM
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You're correct when you say women are in a position where they could choose to have sex more - but also correct when you say said sex could be unpleasant at best and dangerous at worst. So are you truly in the position of choosers when what you can choose from is potentially dangerous, and if something bad happens to you, society will uniquevocally blame you for it? Don't you think there are many straight women who find themselves sexually frustrated with no possibility to have sex because it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:59 AM
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There don't seem to be women who likes penises, in and of themselves, the way gay men do, or the way straight men like *checks notes* almost literally any part of a woman's body. Laughs in swingers club. Of course there are women like that. Arguably, straight and bi women who have a high sex drive and want a lot of male partners are freaking insatiable in a way even men with the highest sex drives cannot compete. Sure they may be a minority, but they undeniably exist. Also I don't think you real…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:43 AM
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Women choose to have less sex than they could have. Straight and gay women are way less promiscuous than gay men. So it looks like women don't seek sex at the same rate men do, and one big reason for that is that their needs for intimacy are met in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:29 AM
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Because they've been socialized from early age to value that. Women and girls are expected to value a relationship more than their own needs, their pride, or their achievements. Boys on the opposite are socialized to be competitive and draw attention to themselves. This isn't good to form close friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:25 AM
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I think the issue is that to many men, sex is the only form of physical and emotional intimacy they receive. Since closeness with other men is so taboo, sex and romantic relationships is the only way for men to experience intimacy. I don't think wanting sex is perceived as predatory - it's more that many men get super bitter and envious when they don't have sex, or not enough sex for their liking, and women are annoyed by that because they know those guys' need for intimacy could be partially me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:13 AM
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Is your threat really "don't complain that I'm gonna become a womanizer with endless options"? I mean. Sure. Wow. I'm scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 09:03 PM
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What things are google able? These data are just of arrests (not of condamnations) and it's the only data you base your "theory" on. All the rest in your post is "I saw it".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:35 PM
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Ah yes, we love the data that is "trust me bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:25 PM
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Love how you're saying "casual sex" for men, but has done sexual favors for another man without any strings attached for women. Yet another man here thinking sex is something women give to men and men take from women. Sex is pleasure for men, but transactional for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:07 PM
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I guess a better rephrasing of this post would be "don't cater your behavior just to attract women, and them get frustrated when said catered behaviors don't work. Do things for yourself and maybe you will attract women, maybe you won't, but at least if you do attract someone you won't need to pretend to be someone else for them" I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:15 PM
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And after they seduced a woman pretending to be someone else, then what? Are they supposed to pretend to be someone else with their wife for the rest of their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 11:06 PM
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"Women as a diaspora" hahahahah thank you for the laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 05:29 AM
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You don't like sex? To each their own!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:57 AM
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No it was pretty cool actually. You should try it sometimes maybe it'd make you more joyful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:48 AM
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"No judgement" Proceeds to judge. Also your opinion would be more valuable if you didn't use outdated terms invented by Victorian times male doctors who thought a woman being horny sometimes was a sign of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:29 AM
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That's actually untrue. Unless you use vibrators a lot AND everyday it's not gonna change anything to your sensitivity. Also I was never sensitive even before I started using vibrators. And finally they're not "a death grip", they're a fun addition to sex. Toys can be used with a partner and it's actually very fun. You should try.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:43 AM
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I've had more than a hundred men go down on me, some of them knew very well what they were doing and were good at it. It's still not my thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:15 PM
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Personally for me, I rarely feel anything. A tongue is almost never strong enough/quick enough to give me the sensations that will get me somewhere. I vastly prefer a vibrator. That said I don't hate it (I'm, like, neutral towards it) and I still expect my partners to offer, otherwise it feels like they don't care about me. Also many men are reaaaaally into it so I'm glad they're having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:42 AM
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Well then again we come back to learning to deal with your frustration. If a man wants casual sex and cannot get it, then he has to accept that he cannot get what he wants. That's it. No manipulative strategies are acceptable. Women on average want casual sex less than men on average, so there will always be straight men who don't get what they want. Women aren't to blame for that, nor are they supposed to "solve" the "problem". And if men go for "more risky strategies" because apparently gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:51 PM
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"I feel very attracted to women, it has to be their fault" Get a grip dude. If those so called "strategies" "work" on you, it's a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:07 PM
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In my case? Someone funny, smart, positive, whom I'm attracted to, with left leaning politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:37 PM
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How have you been "forced" to solve a woman's problem recently? who are you to define what a mature man is? Someone who handles their emotions better than a toddler does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:49 AM
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Yeah I bet it doesn't seem like that to you, because you're too horny for your own sake - so much so that you can't handle it and you want to believe women made you feel that way, that women are responsible for it, those evil witches. But your emotions are your problem and your problem only my friend. Your sex drive is your problem to handle, and a mature man handles it without hating on anyone nor seething all day long.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:40 AM
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Learning that in life, sometimes you want something and you don't get it, is something you learn around 2yo. You know, dealing with frustration and not throwing a temper tantrum because your desires aren't fulfilled. I don't think women should pay the consequences for men not being able to do what a 2 yo learned to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:34 AM
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Yeah, as I said, men feel enslaved by their desire to women. It creates resentment. But ultimately it's their desire to handle. Women can't do anything about it. Also, men's desire borders on predation a lot of times. It's not a great deal for women to be constantly preyed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:11 AM
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I think being told one thing and actions not matching with the verbiage used is throwing them off. Yeah but again usually those actions are judged on one thing and one thing only: "she doesn't want to date / fuck ME".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:28 AM
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They don't. Even when they do they call us liars immediately afterwards. Check the thread - or this entire subreddit - it's full of men calling women liars for saying what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 05:06 AM
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Perceived mismatch. For some reasons men seem to think that women not fucking them in particular despite saying they want a good man, is an obvious mismatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:12 AM
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Then you haven't read them I think I have read. You consider women shallow because they (according to you) only have casual sex with men they consider physically attractive. If she has casual sex with you behind a dumpster after 10 min of meeting you, wouldn't that mean - according to you - that she's shallow, loose, and would do the same with any guy she finds attractive ? And that she's therefore unfit for a serious relationship ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:03 AM
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Is the reason you don't have sex with men that you consider them inferior? Also, reading your comments, it sounds like if a woman would have sex with you behind a dumpster after 10 minutes of meeting you, you'd consider her unfit for a relationship with you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:42 AM
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No? My point is that young men who are shy and scared of women don't ask women what they want. Instead, they google "how do I get girls to like me" and immediately get flooded by a near infinite number of red pill grifters telling them women will never be attracted to them unless they pretend to be someone else and they can learn to do that with a $ 10K course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:08 PM
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Ah yes, men famously get advice from women when they're too terrified to even look them in the eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:59 PM
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Not all men decide to make it their entire personality and develop a grudge against all women for the rest of their lives because women didn't want to have casual sex with them when they were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:58 PM
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Looks like you never got over the humiliation tbh, and decided to make the fear of being cucked by your imaginary future girlfriend your entire personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:57 PM
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No, that's not it. Most young men are terrified of women, because they're attracted to them, feel enslaved by their own desire for them, and don't know how to deal with those feelings. So they look up for answers and grifters are taking advantage of that. In the meantime they still haven't talked to women because they're too shy for that, so how would they know if women's words line up with their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:41 PM
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My thoughts exactly. The guy sounds like the kind that already thinks about his bros when he's still inside a woman. He gets off to the stories he tells his friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:03 PM
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A lot of men who have had sex still have no idea what they're doing tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:21 AM
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Dunno. Are you wrong? Since you know the truth about women, I assume you're drowning in pussy right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:50 AM
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Can't believe women would think you're a red flag. Those mean stupid bitches don't know what they're missing out on do they ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:47 AM
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Ah, another expert in female nature right there. Good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:37 AM
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Yeah man you owned me so bad. Go on ranting, it certainly makes me look upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:33 AM
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Damn you understand women so well, crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:30 AM
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Yeah I often ask my potential male partner their entire sexual and romantic history, keep an excel table on them, and when the numbers are too high or too low I automatically discard them. Very normal behavior for all women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:16 AM
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I think this is your only issue here. Many people are very social yet unable to flirt. They don't know how to make a conversation / interaction flirty, how to show their romantic and sexual interest. You're not socially stunted, you just don't know how to flirt. It's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:15 AM
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The guy who wanted to introduce me to his mother the next day still takes the cake. That's actually hilarious. In my experience when you're a woman who enjoys no stings attached, a lot of guys don't believe you and/or take it as a personal challenge to make you fall for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:12 AM
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Yes. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:55 AM
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Eh, speak for yourself. When I was a younger woman it happened so many times I only wanted sex, and the guy wanted more. It's not a gender thing nor is it related to self confidence. Some people just like casual sex more than others, and some people develop feelings less often than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:54 AM
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Have sex with men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:37 AM
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I think he'd like women to act like gay men, and feels so disappointed that it's not the case and that he needs to "put up" with having sex with women being women, that he can't see a solution to it. Would have been a better post if he simply admitted to not understand how women usually express sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:22 AM
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It won't surprise you to know that I asked exactly that to OP (What conclusions are we supposed to draw from this and what actions are we supposed to take?) and so far he's been totally unable to answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:18 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:16 AM
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autogynephilia constituted the normative form of female sexuality Being attracted sexually, to some level, at the image of yourself in the gender that you are, is not specific to women. It's a universal experience. Don't you enjoy feeling "like a man" when you're having sex? It cracks me up that anyone would make this universal experience a pathology when it comes to women and women only.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:51 AM
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Then why did society even need comphet? Because religions need people to feel sexual shame to exist is one of the explanations. Most people wouldn't be heterosexual (that includes men) nor monogamous if it weren't socially enforced. Controlling people's sexuality and making them feel ashamed for not conforming is a very efficient way to abuse power.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:18 AM
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"Turns out those feminist women did not say what I wanted them to say so we might turn back to this transphobic male sexologist with highly disputed theories, who probably doesn't know anything really about female sexuality, but at least he agrees with me that women don't truly want men sexually" Dude at this point you may want to take a good hard look at yourself and why you want so hard to believe it is impossible for women to truly desire men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:15 AM
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Which is to say the systems in place were necessary to get them to have sex with men No, that's your interpretation of it, not their words - not what it means. They argue that less women would be purely heterosexual. Not that no woman would ever desire men. Honestly it's almost sad how those authors took time and energy to phrase their thoughts in a crafted way, all of that for you to spectacularly misinterpret them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:06 AM
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No she didn't say that. She said that compulsory heterosexuality isn't a choice for women. Nowhere in anything she ever wrote does she argue that women cannot feel attracted to men - only that the systems in place do not leave them with any other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:57 AM
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And you misinterpreted them. None of the people you quoted said women do not feel attracted to men. All they said is that comp heterosexuality as a system is oppressive within a patriarchal society. The only person who said healthy women have "little to no desire" is a sexologist from 200 years ago and we can seriously doubt how HE can have any sort of valid opinion on the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:55 AM
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Simone de Beauvoir to Julia Serano Whom you misinterpreted spectacularly. None of these women said women don't desire men. They just said that if it weren't for societal norms, women wouldn't desire only men, and would probably want to be in traditional marriages with men way less than they do now. Even Andrea Dworkin didn't say women don't disire men - just that sex with men, especially intercourse, in a patriarcal society, cannot be detached from its oppressive context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:49 AM
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"Women have shown interest but I refused to believe them because I don't believe women. By the way I'm an expert on female desire here's my theory" Sure thing bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:45 AM
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Couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:40 AM
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This is hilarious to me since this kind of reasoning cannot sustain interacting with real women who want to have sex with you. So, basically just a way to tell the world "I've never felt wanted by a woman in my entire life and I built an entire worldview around that to show there's nothing wrong with me, but instead with all women"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:37 AM
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Men are told all the time to correct sexist behaviour amongst men or not to hang around with misogynists because by hanging around with them implicitly sends the message that what they do is acceptable. Yes and in none of those instances we expect the reward to be sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:35 PM
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Men don't get to decide who they don't have sex with? They don't have choice, agency, and the possibility to say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:33 PM
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Why does that matter, its not a comparison, never was. Of course it is. Your entire point is that women don't "reward" the right men with sex. Turns out, they do. They "reward" Harry Styles much more than they "reward" Andrew Tate. I think its hilarous to me that its so hard to believe for you, that women dont share your subjective preference for a man. And I think it's hilarious you don't want to see what is on front of you. Women aren't thirsting over Andrew Tate type guys. You can make these …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:08 PM
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You think Andrew Tate is sitting at home jerking off on pornhub longing for the touch of a women? Litterally yes. He's not receiving any love letters or he would brag about it. Women just aren't into him. He managed to sugar daddy his way into having kids but that's it. Also, love that you asked Chatgpt to give you a proof women were into Tate. And 13% - sure, would LOVE to know what the numbers are when it comes to Harry Styles and other "effeminate" men. Also: they LIKE him. They're not ATTRAC…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:56 PM
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I mean, I can also make stuff up and pretend they're true if that's what you consider to be a debate. Edit: on a side note I find it hilarious you'd think there genuinely are many women out there who thirst over fucking Andrew Tate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:36 PM
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There are many men who are rich and famous and yet women don't thirst over them. Take Andrew Tate for example. Rich and famous. Masculine. I've never seen a single woman lust over him. Women pick the men they want, dude. There's no hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:18 PM
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Yes because famously, average DADS never got laid 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:39 AM
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What works? Thr workshops? Or its a scam? What works is to get vulnerable men to pay thousands for something that ultimately doesn't work. I dont understand why the husband is mid but everyone other guy is hot That doesn't answer the question. Most men when they picture themselves as women, picture themselves as slut and whores. They wouldn't want to be housewives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:58 AM
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Ngl it sounds like you can't get women to sleep with you and are so bitter about it that you invent anything that would explain why that is. PUA fail miserably in the vast majority of cases. that's why they end up scamming vulnerable men by giving "workshops" because that's the only thing that works. Also, if you were transformed into a straight woman tomorrow, what would you rather do? Have sex with a lot of hot guys, or become a housewife to a mid dude? Guys like you are just jealous they can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:54 AM
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Nope. The study you're referring to is probably the most misquoted ever - it shows the violence lesbian women have gone through in their life which includes violence at the hands of men. And anyway it's irrelevant to the previous topic: do women enjoy sex? Yes, yes absolutely they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:46 AM
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since women won’t enjoy it for themselves Women absolutely do enjoy sex. But I assume you wouldn't know since you never had sex ? Lesbians report having the most sex and most orgasms of all categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:35 AM
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I mean, you're effectively blaming women A LOT because they don't pick YOU. Way to be delusional. Have you considered they don't pick you because you're shitty ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:28 AM
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considering reaching orgasm is nearly impossible for most women Lol. Vast majority of women reach orgasm under 5min on their own. Way to tell the world you're really bad at sex and not listening to your partner. Granted, many men are bad at that - but lesbians have the most orgasms of all genders and sex orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:27 AM
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Depends. If all you expect from the sex is good sex, then it doesn't matter if the person is shitty or not. You got what you wanted to get. Sex isn't a reward and to a lot of people it isn't this sacred thing either. Let's let people have good times without moral judgment on who they sleep with. Let's reserve our moral judgements for people who lie and deceive to obtain sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:41 AM
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Yeah because saying "this friend Jack I know is feminine and gets laid on a daily basis" won't help because you don't know him. But I def think you're conflating YOUR sexual tastes with women's in general. You seem to be pretty trad and into masculine men - good for you - but that's far from being the case for most women, especially queer/ left wing / progressive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:39 AM
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Dunno. I don't think anyone should be blamed for someone else's shitty behavior. So let's stop blaming women for sleeping with shitty men maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:32 AM
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As far as I'm aware, Harry Styles does dress and act like Harry Styles. Thinking he's somehow the only one to dress and act like that and have many women interested in him is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:09 AM
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"If they enjoyed sex with men they wouldn't stigmatise men who lie and manipulate" what. The issue with PUA isn't that they want casual sex, it's that they lie about it. There are enough women out there who seek and want casual sex that trying to deceive those who do not makes you a shitty person. Can't believe that's news to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:47 AM
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The fact you'd think Harry Styles doesn't get pussy is absolutely hilarious. Women already pick who they want. You're just not who they want and that makes you bitter - but men with dad bods and fluid gender expression def do get laid on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:18 AM
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My point is that if sex is a reward for both people involved it makes no sense to expect women should withhold it and use it to get men to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:16 AM
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So the responsibility to "reward" sex partners who "deserve" it is a moral responsibility that only women have ? As far as I'm aware men aren't blamed for putting their dick in crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:03 AM
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That doesn't answer the question at all. Women don't enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:02 AM
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So women don't enjoy sex?... They only do it as a reward for men?...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:24 AM
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Here I was thinking sex was supposed to be pleasurable for both partners. I stand corrected : apparently sex is something women reward men with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:23 AM
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Absolutely not. Most people who cheat still have sex with their spouse. They're just looking for novelty, something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 11:31 PM
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Divorces usually aren't because of lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 11:29 PM
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Like, just look at DEI in companies, media nowadays, movies with an overwhelming amount of female leads... etc etc. Except the higher up the hierarchy you go, the lesser women there are. Look at country leaders. 15% are women. Look at big companies' CEOs. DEI is there precisely because otherwise, people discriminate against women. Women are perceived as less competent (identical CVs will be favored when it's a man, more money will be attributed to the same projects when lead by a man, ... All of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 12:12 PM
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I'm more intrigued as to why you'd think "patriarchy has long since ended" since patriarchy = power in the hands of men, and men overwhelmingly over represented in every position of power (is it in the political field, economics, medical field, or even educational in the highest positions) + men own most of the riches, and women lack rights in many countries around the world. I think you need to be either blind either delusional if you don't see how women are being kept outside of positions of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:41 AM
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Actually, yes. Although casual sex isn't necessarily worse - the weird heterosexual seduction dance makes it worse. If people could be straightforward about what they want without fearing the consequences, casual sex wouldn't come with all the inconvenients you mentioned. But then again we'll need to see the end of patriarchy first for that to happen. So in the meantime, you're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:33 PM
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You don't need people "throwing themselves at you" to know there are people out there who will find you sexually attractive. It's kind of weird if you believe that out of billions of people, no one can find you sexually attractive.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/25 11:47 PM
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And what makes you think you'd end up with one of these people who compromise?
/r/ExRedPill03/08/25 08:12 PM
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That's fair. But what makes you think a woman would settle for you? Why wouldn't she be physically attracted to you?
/r/ExRedPill03/08/25 08:11 AM
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What I find concerning is when someone compromises on attraction in favor of stability or security, or thinks their current SO is less attractive than their “old type”. I fail to see how that's not you thinking you're not attractive enough for a woman to truly want you. If you're attractive to her, a woman who wants a long term relationship with you won't have to compromise on anything. What makes you think a woman cannot want you and find you attractive enough?
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 10:37 PM
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This sounds like a you problem and a self confidence issue. If you can't believe a woman can be attracted to you, that'll make you distrustful of any woman who says she is. Also, at the moment it sounds like you're making up hypothetical women who would "settle" for you and then get anxious at your own mind creation. Again, sounds like a you problem.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 10:34 PM
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Do you think you're not attractive enough that a woman can't find you secure AND attractive?
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 09:50 PM
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This is you making the assumption that if a woman thinks you're secure, it HAS to be because she doesn't think you're hot or exciting. Again, you're asking for the impossible. The only proof of attraction you'll deem valuable is if a woman wants casual sex with you because she sees you as the hot, toxic bad boy. And yet you yearn for a secure, long term relationship - but you cannot fathom that a secure relationship isn't one which the woman has "settled for".
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 09:48 PM
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If physical attraction is the primary reason she's with you, it means this attraction will ultimately fade, and she will ultimately lose interest. Physical attraction isn't enough to keep someone interested for a long time. If you want short lived relationships it's fine and perfectly valid. But if you're looking for the love of your life, but it'd make you anxious that she finds you "reliable" or "secure", then you're effectively asking for the impossible.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 08:12 PM
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If this is truly how you feel, then what you're looking for is casual sex. There are many women who are interested in casual sex. Look for them.
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 07:44 PM
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Why do you think stability and genuine desire are mutually exclusive?
/r/ExRedPill02/08/25 04:44 PM
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This.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/25 11:04 PM
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Depends how you travel. If you only stay in the resorts and your only interactions with locals is when they do stuff for you because you paid them, then no
/r/ExRedPill23/06/25 08:36 AM
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Have you seen how some straight men handle being approached by other men? It makes the rudest women look polite in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:20 AM
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Seemed very important to you to comment that you are hung and good in bed. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:05 AM
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Is someone who's extravert and has a greater ability to make friends considered to have more power and leverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:37 PM
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No the algorithm pushed you because you paid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:36 AM
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So you don't intend on being friends with the person you date?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:56 AM
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Dating is about meeting someone you connect with. Is friendship about leverage?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:54 AM
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What do you call "power"? This is not about power
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:44 AM
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That's not true. The algorithm is made in such a way that if you swipe 4-5 people a day you're almost certain your profile will be shown to those people, whereas if you swipe everyone the app flags you as "low quality" and doesn't show your profile
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 11:44 AM
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Because when you feel entitled to ask something painful from your partner, you should apply the most painful version of it on yourself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:12 AM
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Well if you followed the conversation here, the issue has been "pressuring your partner into doing anal because she did it with previous partners".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:09 AM
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Again, because it's about the pain and the entitlement, not about "being terrible in bed". It's about demanding something painful to your partner. Anal is painful to most people when they try it the first time, lube or no lube, foreplay or no foreplay, so if you can't understand how painful it can potentially get, don't ask for it. And this comes from me, a woman who enjoys anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:08 AM
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Because if you "demand" something potentially painful from your partner you should first withstand the potential pain yourself. Can he now ask his partner? You can always ask your partner. What you cannot do is demand, pressure, or make your partner feel guilty for not doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:47 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:08 PM
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Men who demand anal sex from their partners should first shove a dildo up their ass without lube or foreplay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:06 PM
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This is it. Listen to this one.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/24 07:42 PM
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Up until I was 25 I fell exclusively for nerdy, introvert, quiet guys. Women aren't all the same - a lot of them like your type of personality. Not all women want loud, outgoing men. Will your type be "popular"? It's hard to say. I guess extraverts have it easier in all social interactions. But will it be popular enough that you can meet a woman you like? I'm sure of that.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/24 07:38 PM
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I assume that when OP talks about "desperate men" he means the trope of lonely, single men. Sure - married people aren't immune to an unsatisfying sex life - but they're not the trope of the lonely simp OP pretends sex workers are taking advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:53 PM
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Dunno. It's just that "men don't respect the women they're attracted to" sounds like a men problem. Should we stop doing everything men don't respect? Would you advice promiscuous women to stop being promiscuous because "men won't respect them"? Sounds crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:39 PM
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As I keep implying and you keep misdirecting. I’ve yet to see men talk about factory workers the way they talk about sex workers 🤷‍♀️ Educate men better then and teach them there's nothing shameful about being a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:25 PM
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I doubt you have met many sex workers then. Here's one. Me. Also I doubt many people working in factories do it as their first choice, or would still do it if they had "better means and a more guided upbringing".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:21 PM
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I find making money as a cashier more dignified That's a moral argument, basically just like saying "I think sex work is ethically wrong" It's your right to think that but it'd be more honest not to try and pretend you're worried about them doing it because they need money then. Just say out right you think sex work is undignified.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:15 PM
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Agreed. If you can enter the army at 18 you can have sex on camera. People make all kinds of decisions when they're young, some of them they'll regret later, but they're adults and should be able to decide what they want for their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:18 AM
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Do you mean you're not a fan of people having to make money in a way they don't like? Because that'd be a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:17 AM
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The vast majority of men who pay for onlyfans are married though. So it's not "desperate men" who buy porn and we should stop pretending women on onlyfans are targeting those demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:16 AM
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Do you know those people who stop you on the street to get you to give money to a charity? Now imagine you'd have those people everywhere all the time? It's just annoying to be constantly interrupted while you go by your life and have someone try to get you to listen to a prepared speech Also now imagine those people are taller and bigger than you and could potentially get upset if you don't want to listen
/r/ExRedPill07/10/24 07:19 AM
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Your post history tells a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:41 AM
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I'm a woman and a sex worker. That's kinda sad you feel the need to brag to strangers on Reddit about things that never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:19 PM
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Yes and they get in relationships solely to divorce Edit: /s since I guess I need to add it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:24 PM
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You seem to know a lot about women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:07 PM
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Do women in the west want you for your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:38 AM
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I'm a woman. Are you the type of guy who thinks the stripper really likes him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:07 AM
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More money adds more dating prospects It doesn't add more desire
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:54 AM
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Except in this case a lot of women from poorer countries are only attracted to them because they're richer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:00 PM
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Does seeing people as humans prevent you from becoming friends with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:42 AM
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Putting on a pedestal is just another form of objectification. You don't treat someone you idealize like a human like you, with qualities and flaws. Human interactions depend on people treating other people like humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:52 AM
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Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:10 PM
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I'm in my mid 30s. When I was younger I couldn't fathom how anyone could find men in their 30s attractive, even less so in their 40s. They looked old to me. Now I find men my age attractive. Attraction changes throughout life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:10 PM
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Ah yeah, men who think about their pal and what they would say when they're inside a women. Totally normal behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:54 PM
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Don't you dare telling them Leo is talented, handsome, successful, wealthy - but also - kind, fighting against climate change, votes blue, progressive It has NOTHING to do with personality only with height!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:49 PM
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It wasn't made to be hidden either. You made a post about how being bald impacts your life negatively 17 days ago. I don't understand why you're trying to pretend you're doing well with women, you're obviously not fooling anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:29 PM
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Good for you. It's very visible from both your post and your post history that you're a very successful and balanced man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:23 PM
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I guess they don't see people as people, but rather as a ensemble of body parts. It's pretty sad tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:16 PM
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How did that improve your chances to pull hot 20 yo women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:15 PM
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Lol please do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:53 PM
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It wasn't for yesterday's young women either
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:51 PM
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And already bald? Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:50 PM
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A serial killer who was so unsuccessful with women he decided he'd be better off killing them. But he was 6'9.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:46 PM
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Ed Kemper was 6'9, didn't work out very well for him
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:43 PM
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Because you have the looks, talent, fame and wealth of DiCaprio?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:36 PM
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And those 20 something women will never age? It makes me giggle when men talk about young women as if they will stay young forever. I don't understand the obsession for bodies that will ultimately age and decay like the rest of us. If you're looking for a partner, you'd better be attracted to something else than their looks. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:21 PM
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Because they'd want to know how to deal with a penis size they don't like, for example (like "my boyfriends penis is too big" which again is searched as many times as "my boyfriends penis is too small")
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:49 AM
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He, most google searches regarding penis size are made by men. And when women do Google searches about penis size, half of them are about their partner being too big. Source: book Everybody lies by Davidowitz You guys should stop being ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:33 AM
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Indeed. And most men (or people, actually) won't even realize what they do is rape. They will say they just "messed up a bit" or even just that they "seized the moment" As French author Virginie Despentes wrote: "Men hate rapists, but what they do is always 'something else'"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:35 PM
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Well the words of OP were: They would get them drunk and coerce them, pressure them, guilt trip them. Which means get them drunk AND coerce them. So, rape. I agree just being drunk doesn't make it rape if you consented - even while drunk. But if someone gets you drunk because they know you wouldn't consent while sober, that's definitely sketchy. And if they pretend they don't hear your noes or your protests (or your silence if you aren't really able to talk anymore) then it's rape. Edit: also sk…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:26 PM
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Fair enough if that's the only thing you want. But pretending people cannot be friends AND want the shit out of each other is just idiotic.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:56 AM
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Being friends or having feelings other than sexual ones clouds atttaction. Lmao what? Have you ever even been in a relationship? I want to experience pure sexual attraction, and the only way to make sure it is that is to have a sexual relationship with 0 feelings So you only want one night stands / sex with no strings attached? How are romantic relationships supposed to work?
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:54 AM
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So you don't intend on being friends with your significant other?
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 11:50 AM
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Do you think coercing someone into having sex isn't rape? Edit: I understand what his point was. I also disagree. I think many men don't recognize rape when it happens to them, and they should (also, I think his affirmation that "all men" have been through that is just a giveaway that he has. Not all men go through that. But indeed, a lot do)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:46 AM
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Should I tell the police them? If you feel like it Will they take me seriously? Probably not since they never take rape seriously, unfortunately. But by the legal definition of rape in most countries, coercing someone and/or getting them drunk to violate their consent is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:24 AM
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I know someone who worked for years in an association fighting sexual trafficking of minors. She told me that most abusers (often clients of prostitution who "ended up" paying for sex with a minor) were opportunists. They weren't pedophiles, but once presented with the opportunity to rape a minor, they just were like "oh yeah why not". That's a terrifying though. I assume it's the same thing here. A lot of men are rapists who didn't yet have the opportunity to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:11 AM
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then all sexually active men have been raped by women a few times Yes. They have. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:08 AM
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I believe that everyone is always looking for the best deal they can get Do you think it's the same with friendship? People will look for the best deal and trade up if they can? If not, maybe consider that you've been brainwashed into thinking romantic and sexual relationships are a marketplace.
/r/ExRedPill12/09/24 06:39 AM
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These are not assumptions but litterally repeating what you said yourself. Sorry if it doesn't make you look like a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:30 PM
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Yeah, I know how that goes. You don't like women who have agency. You only like slaves so you can speak in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:29 PM
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It does help, thanks. But it'd definitely help even more if you didn't fake care about the "exploited women in the industry" then and spoke up your mind right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:22 PM
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One gotta love the feminists who hate other women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:19 PM
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Damn it I so wish non sex workers would shut it up when it comes to talking about sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:52 PM
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so women havent claimed that they were raised to be people pleasers? They have, but what would be the point in lying here? Who would they be pleasing? If men were indeed better in bed solely by giving us more orgasms, we'd be pleasing everyone by telling that openly so they can up their orgasm game. Making a woman come is not that complicated and can be learned. I assume it's much scarier when you can't pinpoint exactly what makes someone good in bed, nor can you train for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:43 PM
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yes numbers are so bad! how dare we use numbers bad bad bad No, it's just that social interactions are messy, complicated, chaotic, and cannot be solved mathematically. women have also claimed to be socialized to be nice and people pleasures and say what people want to hear So basically your argument here is "if you ask women on the street they'll say I'm right and if not, they're just lying" K.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:35 PM
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Oh yeah go on please go ask women on the street And also no. The average women won't tell you more orgasms = better sex. You just want to think that's the case because the idea that good sex cannot be measured with countable things terrifies you. But just see women on this thread - or anywhere else for that matter - they all agree with me. Edit: multiple factors play a role when it comes to good sex. Mostly, capacity to make your partner horny. But also: common kinks, confidence, chemistry, ...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:31 PM
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I already told her about breaking up if I'm not the best in bed. Best way to have your partner lie to you about how good you actually are in bed for fear of you breaking up. And they wonder why women sometimes fake. Lol. You're more likely to be horny with someone you're truly attracted to Sure, but that's far from the only factor. Someone you have kinks in common with, someone you have great chemistry with, someone who "gets" you, someone who's confident in bed and dares to look in your eyes an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:47 PM
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To this guy, it is, because orgasms can be counted. Thinking sex could be better following factors that cannot be counted and measured, is, I assume, extremely terrifying to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:44 PM
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If my partner would tell me that someone gave her more orgams, but she prefers "our connection," I'll leave her immediately. And this is probably the reason you won't have a partner. Explain why a sex with less orgasm could be better? If it's hotter. The best sex of my life were the times I was horniest. It's possible to have orgasms without being especially horny. But good sex is when you're horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:21 PM
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Yes, single child free women are happiest: https://oxbridgeapplications.com/kyc/women-happiest-unmarried/ You're just coping. And I'm not speaking for "all women" but for the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:15 PM
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Damn you seem to know so well what women want! I assume, since you're so savvy, that dating is working tremendously well for you. There's no point in me, a woman, saying what I think is true then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:11 PM
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No, single child free women are the happiest demographic of all. And I can't think of a single woman who likes to be approached and wants to be approached more. You should double check your tiktok algorithm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:08 PM
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First, more orgasms ≠ better sex Second, more orgasms ≠ better in bed Third, OP is asking for women's personal experience. If you're going to discredit us and call us liars and pretend we're "gaslighting" you by sharing our personal experiences, then what's even the point of debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:03 PM
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A lot of women do not want to date, yes. And those who do tend to prefer when there's no "approach" and people just organically meet through their social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:53 PM
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Men thinking women will ultimately beg for their attention if they stop getting it is hilarious to me. But if it has as consequence that men leave women alone, I'm more than fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:25 PM
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It's the best. Women have said for years they don't want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:18 PM
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You're right I'm sure you're absolutely not lying and women absolutely find you charming
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:31 AM
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Why are you lying? It's pretty obvious you're dating no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:27 AM
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Damn, why do you even want to date us then? Honestly, if men are as bad as OP pretends they are and women are as vain as you pretend they are, both sexes are just better off each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:20 AM
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The same way you find good men. The same way you find friends. By connecting with people you have something in common with/ a good chemistry, with whom you have fun and spend good times. "Good women" are people you'll have at least some level of friendship with. The only difference with friends is the flirting / sexual or romantic tension.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/24 09:13 AM
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This source says otherwise. "More than 1 in 3 men (34.1%) and more than 1 in 4 women (27.5%) are overweight." But fair enough, the numbers are quite close in both studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:02 AM
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There's no need to be condescending but ok
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 11:21 PM
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I fail to see how it's not
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 11:15 PM
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That's what I said: "there are tendencies but with too many exceptions to make them rules"
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 10:00 PM
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"It's not red pill, it's simply the truth" dude, you're a perfect illustration of why I wrote this post in the first place.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 10:54 AM
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You're not going to convince anyone here - people on this subreddit are very aware of red pill theories, sometimes used to believe in them, and now know it's nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 10:52 AM
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Well here you are, a lost redpiller spewing his bullshit theories on the exredpill sub. Evolutionary psychology is a pseudoscience.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 10:49 AM
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I heard there are more men who grew up fatherless in the redpill / blackpill / incel movements than in the average population but I don't know if that's true.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 10:47 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 10:42 AM
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Indeed I heard a lot of red pillers are on the spectrum. Do you think influencers are aware of it and try to prey on them?
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 08:20 AM
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Haha I'm already in that subreddit. Well to be fair this relative wasn't exacrly a good person even before falling into the QAnon rabbit hole, so I have mixed feelings. I'm sad for him, but I don't really grieve a lost relationship either. Thanks a lot though.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 10:17 PM
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One of my relatives is really into QAnon (this post is partly inspired by him) and what you say about anger being addictive really resonates with that too.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 10:12 PM
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Very true. This explains why, unfortunately, many redpillers spiral down and end up as an angry mess.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 10:06 PM
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Could be the case for some of them, but also many men are just misandrists. If you're disgusted by the sexuality of other men because you perceive it as fundamentally dirty or predatory, you're misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:33 PM
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There are similar pyramid schemes in pretty much every field. Wellness, sports, finance, holidays, religion, ... So what's your point? I never called people who fell for it "deficient". Pyramid schemes are illegal, they are obviously always the grifter's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:33 AM
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Pyramid schemes are illegal actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:32 AM
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Nice fanfiction you wrote here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:29 AM
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It's not an insult to be obsessed with dicks and balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:07 AM
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I implied he's gay indeed but you're the one seeing the insult here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:57 AM
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Where's the insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 08:51 AM
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You should tell that to his 9Mil followers. They didn't get the memo I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:57 AM
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Andrew tate has stated many things, often contradictory. What's for sure though is that he's followed and supported by a lot of red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:44 AM
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Men who can't stop thinking about other men every time they see a woman should really take a honest look at themselves. You seem damn obsessed with dicks and balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:43 AM
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Your "preferences" are hypocritical from the moment you don't apply the same standards to yourself as you apply to potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:36 AM
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I think they're just misandrist men. They've been told for all their life that men are pigs who only want one thing. When they're like "well I don't feel like that", instead of understanding that MOST men don't feel like that either, they think they're the exception. Other men must all be pigs then - that's what they've been told since forever, after all - and they must be different because they don't feel like pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:30 AM
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Andrew Tate had (and maybe still has) a pyramid scheme where followers had to buy overpriced "formations" on how to make money, but mostly just made money from recruiting new members and getting a percentage of the formations they bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:26 AM
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My guess is that gym stuff mostly attracts other men. Or gets you compliments from other men (gay or straight). I think that's awesome to see men complimenting and supporting each other though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:27 PM
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Men have, on average, also less friends than they used to. It's not just an issue of approaching women, it's a loneliness issue that includes the lack of social circle. So the solution to that must be broader than just the dating aspect of men's lives. I'd even argue that focusing on that aspect in particular makes men feel even more like failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:23 AM
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No, I just meant that most men feel like they have to make you come and will feel bad if they don't. So you're a better lay to them if you come easily from the things they do to you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:17 PM
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And here I was thinking sex was about people mutually wanting each other
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:02 PM
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I suppose you also don't do oral then because what would the person giving oral get out of that? Edit: might come as a surprise to you but some people enjoy giving pleasure to their partner, and nature so happened to have put men's G-spot up their arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:40 PM
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A man being fucked in the arse is also nature's contraception. Pegging is 100% effective to not make babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:30 PM
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Yes nature intended for us women to make babies by being fucked in the arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:27 PM
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Sure but the point remains. That's not the reason why women hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:20 PM
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Probably, except most straight men never get fucked in the arse by something dick-sized. Yet many of them expect their female partners to take it like it's easy (while they have no fucking idea how painful that can feel when done wrong).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:16 PM
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Probably, but that also means that the emotional reaction of your partner is even worse when you're a man turning down sex. You're right and that sucks. No one should have to bear their partners reacting badly to them turning down sex. I think saying a man can't cum is also used as an insult sometimes. Some women will take it personally because they think it means they're not attractive enough. That definitely sucks. Still, the stereotype of being frigid and unable to "let yourself go" applies a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:13 PM
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Yeah that's why I said "some men" - hopefully many men are super respectful and caring. Or some men used to not be respectful and then changed. I think the pressure to have sex as a couple exists for both men and women, but since men on average have a higher sex drive, it's more often the woman who ends up having sex when she doesn't feel like it. Also the difference is that penetrative sex can feel uncomfortable or even painful for women (especially when she doesn't feel like it) while it'll ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:54 PM
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What about men wanting (and sometimes pressuring) their girlfriend having more sex, more often, and/or doing specific sex acts that are uncomfortable or even painful for her? (Like anal or rough sex) Isn't that asking women to perform in bed? Taking a dick in one of your orifices, depending how it's done, is performance in itself. Most men have never felt pain during sex - most women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:45 PM
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I think you're right, but I also think you underestimate how harsh men can be to a woman they consider to be bad at sex - and how little consideration they can sometimes have for her comfort or well being. I've been made fun of and called frigid - in front of all of my friends - because I didn't come (while honestly, the sex was bad for the both of us). I've been told that I should "let him" do more anal, although it was at the time agonizing pain for me, under the pretense that "all my friends …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:36 PM
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Tbh, I've never seen red pillers doing their thing and putting themselves first. All they talk about is women. They hate on women every day, all day. Red pills fb groups or telegram channels are solely about complaining about women. You may find that to be the reason to why women hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:28 PM
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The expectations on women have increased too. The expectation on sex in general has increased. I don't think people used to feel like having a satisfying sex life is part of being "successful" in life. Most people certainly do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:19 PM
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Yes. This. Men don't realize how much women have to put on a show just to make their partner aroused, confident, and feeling like he's good. That they have to prioritize looking good over feeling good. And that they're supposed to adapt to their partner's sex drive without being in tune with their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:32 PM
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Women have a performance pressure in a different way. Traditionally: Women have to look hot - men don't. Women have to moan and scream - men don't (hence why many women fake pleasure: they don't want to be seen as a bad lay) Similarly, women have to come from what their partner is doing to them - men don't. Hence why many women fake orgasms. Basically, women's performance is more related to making their partner feel like he's performing well. Women who don't do that (either sincerely because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:18 PM
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Only once: when it was a toxic relationship and he was saying that as a way to control me ("I miss you so you should stay home, I'm scared to lose you so you should have no male friends" etc) But when those feelings are expressed in a healthy way then no.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/24 09:48 PM
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I've been attracted to them because of their weak side. Seeing a man able to open up is a green flag to me so I tend to be attracted to men who dare showing their sadness, shame or fear. Never been turned off by any of that.
/r/ExRedPill19/02/24 09:35 PM
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Oh so sex IS the endgoal for men after all? I don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:25 PM
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I think we can complain about whatever the fuck we want lol. Also when I like a man I take the first step, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:16 PM
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Well that's what happens when you have too much supply and not enough demand, what can I say? You're not entitled to women giving you a chance and they have the perfect right to turn you out for any silly reason she likes. Ghosting isn't cool though, she should be upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:14 PM
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You know what? Go on Grindr and see if you don't judge how men approach you after 5min
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:37 PM
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Do you think friends are interchangeable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 09:02 AM
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Lmao yeah sure. Poor you always getting used and never using anyone. You know the common point between all those mean people? You. Maybe you'll connect the dots one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:24 PM
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Posting 10 times the same thing because it obviously bothers you so much you can't let it go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:12 PM
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You're the one who looks desperate tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:46 PM
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No you weren't certified as long as you didn't ask her you just assumed. Act like an adult and ask things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:55 PM
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99% of people wouldn't even have looked or noticed that detail about the time. She was rude for not thanking you but the 1h29 thing is bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:42 PM
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Have you asked her if she did it on purpose or did you just assume she did? Yeah, thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:01 PM
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It's not a ridiculous game bro she was just rude. And the 1h29 thing is totally ridiculous on your part. This was probably by chance and you're interpreting everything as being intentional. You're making your life so complicated tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:25 PM
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Why do you then? Looks like you interact hella much with "morally inferior people" when you insult their wives, send them rude vocals or overall troll them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:21 PM
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Lmao well good luck being alone with your moral superiority. I bet you have a very happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:03 PM
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It's not common courtesy to reply in many cases. A lot of people don't like digital communication. Respect their wish not to talk to you that way. People aren't at your disposal. And if you demand of them to answer don't be surprised they cut ties. No one wants to be friends with an entitled asshole who makes it all about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:15 AM
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You're so immature. Instead of having a healthy communication and act like an adult and tell people exactly why they hurt you and how, you just want to hurt them back like a 4 years old would. Anyway, you do you. But when you happen to be litterally surrounded by narcissists maybe the problem is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:10 AM
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The issue is that you're sticking this analysis to basically anyone who doesn't respond to your texts as much as you'd like to. You're mistaking "not answering because you have better things to do / forgot / don't like this way of communication / were to lazy to answer" with "giving silent treatment". Not everyone who is intentionally not answering to you is "giving you the silent treatment". You seem to go from the principle their intentions are bad every single time. Have you even asked them w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:28 PM
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So. It looks like you've been posting this in several subs and several times until someone tells you you're right. You're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:19 PM
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"I know better than you what you feel" ok bro, you seem like a true expert in women so I'll leave it here lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:33 PM
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I know attraction isn't horniness but the teenager I was (and my teenager friends were) who watched the same movie 20 times in a row just because of the lead actor were DEFINITELY horny. I'd say that since girls aren't allowed by society to be as horny as boys they hide their horniness behind "being fans". Look at concerts from the Beatles and tell me the women there weren't horny af.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:11 PM
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Wanting to snag a celebrity is 100% a sign of horniness in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:18 PM
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I think when they mean "work on yourself" they don't mean become a high status male. I would personally say that "work on yourself" means (to me) 1) learn how to be happy with yourself, enjoy yourself, so you don't crave other people's attention and 2) learn to approach women as friends too and don't "girlfriendzone" them, so you don't end up seeing them as some sort of mystical creatures you have to manage to trick into bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:24 AM
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Do you mean with the intention to hurt you? Or with the intention to be left alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:51 PM
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Well what can I say bud? Sorry women don't find you sexually attractive? Sexual attraction is not rational. Either a guy makes us wet, either he doesn't. Besides men often get blinded by their sexual attraction too and make poor choices in partner, otherwise the sentence "don't stick your dick in crazy" wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:33 PM
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I don't think anyone cares about your sympathy on that. People make mistakes and sometimes they don't want to admit it. You have the right to judge them for it. But thinking they should have slept with you instead is absurd. We have sex with men because we're sexually attracted to them. The main purpose of sex is sexual arousal and pleasure. It's silly feel fooled or something because a woman felt sexually attracted to another man and not to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:20 PM
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Do you think sex is a reward women should give to deserving men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:54 PM
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... and in the vast majority of cases dads don't even ask for custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:48 PM
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Yeah, and the fact they just left because they didn't care about the kids and didn't even ask for custody isn't a possibility of course
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:47 PM
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Sure and then you can complain those hot beautiful sexy high libido don't want you and whine they reject you while you're such a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:45 PM
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I wouldn't say "because they have better personality", I'd say "because you're not approaching them purely for their looks and that can lead to a better relationship dynamic".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:44 PM
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Treat women like human beings and not prizes to be won? I don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:34 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:33 PM
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As a woman I hate it when men try to trick me into thinking they want to date me while they want casual sex. It gives off this rapist pedophile vibe as if they had to trick me into doing something I don't want to do. You want casual sex? Ask for casual sex (and asking politely or indirectly for it isn't lying. Pretending you want something else, however, is). Will many women say no? Probably. It doesn't mean they want to be lied to, it means they don't want casual sex and you have to respect tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:30 PM
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I agree with that but I think it's true for everyone, men included. Everyone prefers to feel chosen rather than settled for because lack of other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:10 PM
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I think you were with immature people. Couples should stay together because they make each other feel good, not because they're afraid to leave. Now sure some people are assholes but doesn't mean the only way to keep a partner is by making them feel like they could be replaced any moment. I wish you to find the right person who will be with you for the right reasons (if you haven't already found her/him)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:04 PM
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So, you did say it'd make her scared to leave and stand by it. THAT is what I consider toxic. If you think you have to make your partner scared to leave, for whatever reason, or that her being scared to leave is somehow a good thing, you have trust issues in my book. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:50 AM
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Bro you litterally stated it would prevent her from leaving "for a stupid reason" because she'd be afraid to be replaced. Do you not stand by that? Do you think the above is not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:09 AM
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No it's not There's a big difference between saying "it makes her feel special" and "it makes her afraid to leave".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:53 AM
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No, the dude explicitely stated it'll prevent her from breaking up. It's also one reason that keeps your gf from going away, if she knows you have other options she will be less inclined to leave for some stupid reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:15 PM
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a person they think is attractive to many people You seem to have missed that part so I'll repeat it. You can find someone attractive and be aware most people don't, and know it's like your personal taste or something. At the opposite you can witness how a certain person gets the most looks and interest, and that can make that person seem more attractive to you because of the attention they get from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:01 PM
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Do you have peer reviewed studies to back that up or is it just an observation of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:46 PM
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Sure, you did, other people have those preferences too, but I'd argue that in general people are more attracted to a person they think is attractive to many people (is it because of their looks or their personality).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:29 PM
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it's how most women Oh yeah I'm sure you have these statistics from peer reviewed studies and didn't just pull that from your ass. it's just their nature Lmao. I'm a woman and I can confirm you don't know much about us. Edit: had actually misread your other comment. Sure, probably a lot of people like to think they've been chosen and not settled for, but what I find unhealthy here is using the "I have other options" as a lever to prevent the person from leaving. If you think someone's staying wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:18 PM
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Yeah, and they have trust issues too imo. If you perceive everyone else as a threat, or if you hope your partner stays with you because they're scared to be replaced, it's not very healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:58 PM
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Isn't it the same for guys though? They're more interested in a woman every man wants and will find her more attractive if she receives a lot of male attention (but without doing it on purpose of course otherwise she's an "attention whore" as it seems).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:54 PM
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That doesn't sound like a very healthy way of looking at relationships. Sounds more like you have some trust issues right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:51 PM
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