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they went and arrested Broadwater for no reason. That’s not true, the man she saw on the street was Broadwater. He greeted a police officer behind Sebold but she thought he greeted her so she assumed he was her rapist. She later reported him to the police and the police officer who was greeted by Broadwater confirmed the man they were looking for was Broadwater. Broadwater was later arrested. The entire reason he was arrested was because Sebold identified him as her rapist. Ironically enough she…
/r/MensRights10/12/21 12:05 AM
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If most women are willing to rate a fat woman as more attractive than a man who’s physically fit then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:28 PM
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Women are extremely bias towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 03:14 PM
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The forensic evidence was one of two pieces of evidence that resulted in Broadwater’s rape conviction. The main piece of evidence that got him convicted was Sebold’s testimony. Her positive ID sealed his fate. Without her testimony, Broadwater would have had a fighting chance. Did you see the lineup picture did look quite similar They look nothing alike. They’re not even the same height. Broadwater was easily 3-4 inches taller than the man she picked. She also said the man she IDed “had” to be h…
/r/MensRights05/12/21 12:25 AM
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Purjery? In which way? Sebold identified Broadwater as her rapist in court, even though she identified a different man in a police lineup. She was not 100% sure that Broadwater was her rapist, yet she testified that she was 100% sure he was her rapist. Her testimony was the main reason he was convicted. What lies did she tell in her book? "I knew his face had been the face over me in the tunnel. Knew I had kissed those lips, stared into those eyes," She didn’t know. She failed to pick his face o…
/r/MensRights04/12/21 11:48 PM
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Does that justify perjury? Does that justify all the lies she told in her book? If it was up to her Broadwater would still be a convicted rapist and a registered sex offender, and her movie would still be in production.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 10:53 PM
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The man who she alleged greeted her was Broadwater. He stated he wasn’t greeting her, he was greeting a police officer behind her. The police officer later corroborated his story in court (Sebold suspiciously left that out of the book) She testified against Broadwater despite the fact she failed to identify Broadwater in a police lineup. In court, she identified him as her rapist, even though she wasn’t sure. She essentially perjured herself to convict a man of rape. After the trial she wrote a …
/r/MensRights04/12/21 09:15 PM
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He was arrested because she pointed him out to police (she walked by him on the streets and had a “gut” feeling he was her rapist). Had she not done that, this man would not have spent 16 years in prison and 20+ years as a registered sex offender. Edit: He spent 16 years in prison not 20+ years. He spent 20+ years as a registered sex offender
/r/MensRights04/12/21 06:33 PM
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Careers don’t matter that much for women. Women don’t need doctorates to marry doctors or dentists or other wealthy men. I know dozens of medical doctors who have dated or married nurses, CNAs, PAs, social workers, paramedics, ultrasound techs, and other women who had careers with lower education levels than doctors. I know dentists who have dated or married dental hygienists and orthodontic assistants. Yes, they’re not McDonalds workers but very few good looking women above a certain age are wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:53 PM
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You’re insane. First of all women who use men to get free food do not give them sex you dunce, they usually ghost them after they’ve had a few meals. Second of all how are women being “emotionally raped” when they’re giving nothing in return for raping a man’s wallet? Third of all your average modern woman can’t clean or cook for shit lol, the best they can do is attempt to make food, burn it, and then order DoorDash or Uber Eats using your credit card. Fourth of all, oh no women have to take a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 02:47 PM
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Same shit different toilet. Women are private property in the East and in the West, men want women to be public property. No. Women are objectively not “private property” in the west. The porn culture in the West is disgusting. Brothels, “sex work is work” mentality and “sugar daddy” culture aka pedos preying on young girls who are victims of our broken economy. The only people who are saying “sex work is work” are feminists and sex workers. It’s also illegal for men to rape children, you do rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:26 AM
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Being the fun 'weekend dad' with no real responsibility who bemoans the fact he has to pay child support? ha. You’re moving the goalpost. Even a “fun weekend dad” is still part of his kid’s life. Paying child support is also a huge responsibility. There's also a correlation between ice cream sales and shark attacks so I guess I should avoid buying ice cream if i don't want to be attacked by sharks? No, because there’s a very, very low (insignificant) correlation between buying ice cream and bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:49 AM
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Most modern women WILL end up as single mothers because women are the ones unhappy in marriage and end up leaving, you may as well just save time. Most fathers are still part of their kid’s life after divorce. Correlation does not equal causation. There’s also a high correlation between not wearing your seatbelt and being killed or paralyzed in a car accident, it is best to avoid bad outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:51 PM
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Even controlling for income, single motherhood is bad for children. I’ve already mentioned this to somebody else on this thread and I didn’t feel like repeating myself. Forcing your child to live without their father is bad for your child, especially if your child is a male. Not the same as choosing to be a single mother That doesn’t matter because there’s a high correlation between emotional disorders among children and not having a father figure. Most children who grew up without a father hate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:42 PM
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Yeah it’s sad that women in the middle east are treated horribly, luckily women are legally equal to men in your country and in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:04 PM
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Nearly two-thirds of children and teens who commit suicide come from fatherless homes. 85% of children and teens who have behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. Purposely raising a child in a single mother household is one of the worst things you can do to a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:24 PM
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That’s not a female issue No it’s predominantly a female issue. Very few men are addicted to taking 100s of photos of themselves and posting it online. Stds? Women? What ? LOL Go back to your basement please. Of course you have no argument because you know I’m right, that’s why you resorted to using an ad hominem/obvious redditor projection. Std rates are much higher among straight women than they are among straight men. That’s a fact you can look up on google or any other search engine. For exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:44 PM
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Better to go via sperm donation and do it alone Statistics say otherwise. Single motherhood is bad for children and it’s bad for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:29 PM
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Define poor Low income or poverty level. Below the median income. look at the bullshit that is normalised, porn, brothels You can thank third wave feminism for that. Then this gender expects to become a father and be domesticated when they have had no practise or encouragement to be that way, growing up. It’s a disaster for women and children. Yes because a large number of women aren’t addicted to social media, don’t actively engage in hookup culture (yes STD rates among women haven’t increased …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:00 PM
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Well patriarchy is world wide and with technology and globalisation everyone is increasingly interconnected so to separate yourself from other fellow humans is a bit delusional. Yet you have no problem demonizing men who live in your neighborhood. Either way, I live in the U.K. a very “developed” country and the University of Oxford only JUST started paying people a “living” wage which is £10ph and will still require you to heavily ration and live in poverty lmao Most British men aren’t poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:51 PM
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Are you okay? I don’t know why you hate men so much but women have their issues as well (especially women who follow FDS), nobody is perfect. I’ve met plenty of women who don’t cook, don’t clean, and aren’t “domesticated”. Hell, if I kept them around they would be nothing but burdens as well. Luckily, I found a woman who isn’t a burden and shares my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:46 PM
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I’m talking about the US and other developed countries, the other countries are irrelevant unless you live in those countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:37 PM
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Your comment is objectively wrong. Most men are earning above the minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:21 PM
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I maintain that a father is not important for a family to function. There’s no family without two parents in the picture. Just because your child isn’t a criminal it doesn’t mean they are good and a well adjusted adult. That doesn’t signify adequate parenting. Just like turning to crime doesn’t make you bad. Yes, but criminals are not well adjusted adults and most criminals come from single mother households. Not to mention the fact children from single mother households are more likely to suffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:19 PM
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Going part time and providing less for their children? That sounds like a bad plan. In fact, everything you listed is a bad plan for men who have a stable career and want to provide for their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:06 PM
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I didn’t narrow any points, you moved the goalposts. Here’s the comment you replied to: Nope. Even controlling for income, children from two parent households are less crime prone than children from single mother households. Here’s what you said: Nope you’re wrong. No matter how you study crime, it is always present where there is poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 01:03 PM
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I never said crime wasn’t present, but children who grow up in poverty stricken two parent households are LESS crime prone than children who grow up in single mother households.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:51 PM
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If a mother is absent (no income from her) how are the children going to be provided for if the father abandons his job to become a stay at home dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:50 PM
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Nope. Even controlling for income, children from two parent households are less crime prone than children from single mother households.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:42 PM
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That’s a societal expectation, it’s the same reason why women win custody more often than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:40 PM
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You didn’t address my response. I said single motherhood is bad for the child, and it is. Children of single mothers are more likely to become criminals than children who live in two parent households.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:37 PM
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Single motherhood is statistically bad for a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:30 PM
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A father being the breadwinner of his family does not make him a deadbeat, in fact that makes him a good father as far as parental roles are concerned. The fact that when a woman isn’t present due to illness or death, the family always starts to fall apart. According to that! Families usually fall apart whenever one parent isn’t present.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:29 PM
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The vast majority of fathers are deadbeat According to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:11 PM
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Women who are fat and ugly are a dime a dozen. Telling these women they have power is like telling a homeless man he has wealth, it’s completely false. The only power these women have is the power to choose which man gets to pump and dump them. Very few men want to be in committed relationships with them, why would they if they have better alternatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:00 PM
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Having a man is useless Not if you want to have children and raise them properly. Women have way more to lose In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 11:53 AM
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That’s generally true but she specified that when it comes to dating men have it harder due to social roles I think I also felt very small as a man in a way, you know that women really did have a lot of power in the dating situation, that they got to decide yes or now, and that I was one who had the cross the room and ask a woman out and so on and so forth, and the rejection was unpleasant.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/11/21 11:36 AM
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Who’s responsible for allowing a child to be born?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:26 PM
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The problem is the TRP has been banned from reddit yet FDS hasn’t even been quarantined.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:15 PM
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In hispanic culture 15 year olds are considered to be women. Why do you think they have quinceañeras? Maradona is just a product of his culture. Asia Argento grew up in western culture where 17 year olds are considered to be children.
/r/MensRights23/11/21 02:53 PM
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Wtf?
/r/MensRights21/11/21 01:06 AM
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No one was looking for income at 20. It depends. 20 year old college girl? You’d be right, they’re not looking for income. 20 year old woman working a full time job? She’s definitely looking for men with good income. Most women who have graduated college are looking for men with good incomes as well and most recent graduates are 21-24 years old. hot men barely exist at that age Hot men barely exist at any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:54 PM
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She’ll claim she had “battered woman syndrome” and was severely abused by her boyfriend. A jury will believe her and she’ll be acquitted of all charges.
/r/AntiFeminists20/11/21 01:42 PM
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Older women: Wants men with high incomes Younger women: Wants attractive men with high incomes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:27 PM
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The average east asian American is 5’7, the average BTS member is 5’10. BTS members have also had plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:59 PM
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That explains why east asian men are doing so well on tinder and other dating apps, oh wait they’re not. Most of those “young women” are literal children who are barely old enough to drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 04:14 PM
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Most boots only add an inch, but that’s besides the point. If a man were to add lifts to his boots women would hate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:22 PM
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There is no male equivalent to makeup, and there isn’t any male equivalent to female beauty products in general. The most we can do is go to the gym, dress well, get good haircuts, groom ourselves, and maintain clean skin. There’s nothing else we can do because women generally do not want to date men who engage in fraud. How many women would be willing to date men who wear 2 inch lifts?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:59 PM
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look at kpop singers That’s a completely different culture. Western women generally do not like men who wear makeup or engage in other acts of fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:44 PM
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Get what on men? Makeup? Even if we had the options, most women would hate men who engage in that type of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:41 PM
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Men don’t have as many options as women. Women can easily fraud and scam men into thinking they’re pretty by wearing makeup, fake eyelashes, hair extensions, pushup bras, waist trainers, fake nails, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:37 PM
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The pinkpill is a man-hating femcel ideology. Unsurprisingly, the only reason pinkpill subreddits are on the ban list is because they’re transphobic, it has nothing to do with its misandrist ideology.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/11/21 03:14 AM
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Well you can not date someone and still hook up with them no? Most young guys aren’t hooking up with older women either. When I'll do in late 20s, it will defiitely be women in 30s and 40s. That’s what I thought too, but attraction is fluent and it changes as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:54 PM
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Women have strict height standards
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:42 PM
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If they aren't dating lesbians, then it might be they are intrigued, curious, etc.. Same idea can apply to young guys since most of them aren’t dating MILFs But do MILFs not get overwhelming right swipes on dating apps with younger dudes? Every woman gets a ton of right swipes on dating apps. Have you not heard of pig woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:03 PM
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The numbers is what matters. And the number, as per porn categories, seems in favor of older women. I guess most women are lesbians who mostly have sexual desires for women. There are plenty of pornstars in 20s with all these qualities and famous. So why do dudes like me in 20s go for the ones like Brandi Love, Ava Adams, Cherie Deville, Alexis Fawx and others?.. It’s taboo. It’s why some 50 year old men watch “barely legal” porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:47 PM
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Yes. If they didn’t they simply wouldn’t be with you. Porn category popularities says something different The most popular porn category that women watch is lesbian porn. Your porn viewing habits isn’t reflective of your dating patterns. Also MILF porn features women who are outliers (big boobs, small waist, wide hips, pretty face, very few older women have all of these qualities).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 05:24 PM
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You are wrong again. Research shows that women are financially worse off after divorce BUT they are happier. Those studies don’t compare women before marriage and after marriage, they compare women during marriage and after marriage. Obviously if you compare women during marriage and after marriage you’ll see a loss because women lose access to half their husband’s money. If you compare women before marriage then you’ll see a gain because women gain half their husband’s money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:44 PM
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If you’re an older man and you make enough money, are in good shape, have enough of your hair, and have good social skills then you’re more than capable of getting with a young and attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:21 PM
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They care about being attractive but the 'to men' part disappears because they've had their kids That’s assuming they’ve had kids. More and more women aren’t having kids until much later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 03:00 PM
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He shouldn’t pay child support. Either he gets full custody or the child goes into the foster care system. His rapist should not have custody of his child.
/r/MensRights11/11/21 12:01 AM
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Are you forgetting that milf porn is extremely popular? Most older women do not look like those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:21 PM
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Right, but most women have trouble staying attractive as they get older. Only genetically gifted or very hard working women are capable of maintaining their attractiveness as they get older. These women are outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 05:42 PM
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Nope, it's very easy for young women to get both sex and commitment. FTFY. It’s very easy for young women, but not older women. Older women can easily get sex but not commitment (unless they are physically attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 04:01 PM
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Women do fine until they lose their fertility and are completely ignored by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:48 PM
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I’ve hooked up with women who are FDS types (fat, old, unattractive, obnoxious, manipulative, etc) and the answer is hell no. I can barely stand their presence for 15-20 mins at a time, let alone all the time. I could never relax knowing that my partner hates men, worships female serial killers, is willing to invade my privacy (go through my phone or laptop without my consent) because she inherently doesn’t trust me, questions every action I ever take, plays mind games 24/7, and is physically an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 07:23 PM
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It depends. For context I’m physically fit and my income is above average. Getting with old, fat, and unattractive women is easy if your income is higher than their income and you’re physically fit. I never dated a woman who was old, fat, and unattractive, but I’ve hooked up with a few of them. One of them was a fat woman in her early 30s. She had a dead end job that earned her about 35K a year. She also weighed around 200lbs and was about 5’7. I could’ve easily started a relationship with her i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 02:24 AM
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Even if the actual rate was double the reported rate that would still mean less than 0.1% of women were raped in 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:28 PM
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It is, only 1 in 2,604 women were reported to have been raped in 2020
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:25 AM
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Rape is rare, stop being paranoid and overly emotional. Y’all 🤠should try some rationality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:13 AM
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Yeah about that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:34 AM
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Oh that reminds me, females should stop making false rape accusations after they’re ghosted by a HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:22 AM
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Females should stop hooking up with irresponsible men who want to bareback them “bUt i WaNt SeX wItH tALL hAnDsOMe MeN!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:55 AM
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For point 3 of “Why dating apps suck for women”, you can easily prevent pregnancy by going on birth control and requiring guys to wear condoms. For point 4 STDs are also a huge issue for men. Men more likely to be exposed to STDs than women are. For example, 20% of women have genital herpes, while only 10% of men have genital herpes. This means if a man hooks up with a woman there’s a 1 in 5 chance that he’s going to be exposed to genital herpes. For women this probability is only 1 in 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:43 PM
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Men are fucking far less than women are. Sexlessness primarily affects men. Especially considering the fact that female sexlessness is usually a choice while male sexlessness is not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 06:09 PM
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People who are single fuck less than people who aren’t single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 05:10 PM
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Men are more likely to be single than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:45 PM
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Men fuck less and less Ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:29 PM
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I do all three of those things. I diet, go to the gym 5 times a week, and dress nice. I encourage men to do these things not just for dating, but for their professional and social life as well. The point I’m trying to make is although it helps men, it helps men a lot less than you think. The sad reality for men is that women care more about your genetics, your income, and your status. If you’re 5’9 you benefit more from a 3 inch height increase than you do from going to the gym 5 days a week. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 02:51 PM
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much more responsibility than you giving a paycheck once a month Once a month for 18 years. That’s roughly $100K per child for a man making average income. That’s a HUGE responsibility. If a woman is pro-choice, and decides to have a baby, it is 100% her responsibility. If a woman has the option to opt out of parenthood and doesn’t take it, it is not the man’s fault. The man is 50% responsible for the pregnancy, but 0% responsible for the baby being born (assuming the woman is pro-choice). I do …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:52 PM
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Yes because we all know that college girls are desperately trying to court fat, sweaty, computer science majors.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/11/21 09:25 PM
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And get banned by reddit? No thanks.
/r/AntiFeminists01/11/21 07:15 PM
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Look up “Aileen Wuornos gone insane?” on Youtube and scroll down to the comments section.
/r/AntiFeminists01/11/21 03:21 PM
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That’s not going to happen. Toupees have been a thing for centuries and women still hate them. Women also think men who wear lifts are insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:39 PM
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Those men are only a minority. Wearing heels, makeup, and weaves is socially acceptable for women. Wearing lifts and toupees is not socially acceptable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:15 PM
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Once men start wearing heels to compensate for height and some weaves I might have a little sympathy. There are men who wear lifts and toupees and guess what? Women hate men who wear lifts and toupees.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:51 PM
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Should I? It's not like you're trying to find reason or learn something new. You're still gonna see me as wrong. If you’re trying to prove a point it’s best to explain it so that others can understand it. If you’re scared that your argument is going to be challenged then maybe it’s not a good or strong argument, and I assume this is the case.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/10/21 08:53 PM
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and for good reasons What are those reasons? You keep telling me that society’s view on this issue is good without explaining why it’s good.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/10/21 08:45 PM
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You’re not trying to understand my points. I already understand your points and they are ridiculous. Of course society is gonna be more tolerant to an adult woman having sex with a 15 year old boy when the boy also wants it and is happy with the outcome versus an adult man raping a girl of 15 years old. Completely two different cases, two different sexes, that changes it all. “Teenage boys want it and are happy with the outcome” Do you honestly think girls who are freshmen in high school wouldn’…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/10/21 05:23 PM
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You’re contributing to double standards that don’t make sense. Child molestation is child molestation regardless of the gender of the victim and the perpetrator.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/10/21 02:08 PM
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I liked how you used “having sex with” to describe relations between an adult woman and male child, but used “raping” to describe relations between an adult man and female child. Stop contributing to double standards.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/10/21 02:11 AM
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It changes everything because society tolerates female pedophilia/child molesting.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/21 09:50 PM
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You think most girls that are high school freshmen wouldn’t have sex with Sean O’Pry if given the chance?
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/21 07:40 PM
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How is it not accurate?
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/21 06:47 PM
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“This man is a hero banging a 14 year old girl. If you guys want to blame anyone, it should be his creepy aunt.”
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/21 06:42 PM
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I cringe at comments like this. Swap the genders and you’ll know what I’m talking about. “Can’t imagine any straight 14YO girls wouldn’t hit that. Yes it’s still wrong. I’m just saying….”
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/21 06:37 PM
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If an ugly man puts in effort he’ll be attractive to 5% of the population. If an ugly woman puts in effort she’ll be attractive to 20% of the population. I’m not saying ugly women will be as attractive as pretty women, but if they put in effort they have much more to gain than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:03 PM
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No, I don’t want to taste your tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:32 AM
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Did my post trigger you? Or was it my other comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:59 AM
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Waist to hip ratio can be improved at the gym. You might not get an hourglass figure but you’ll have a body that’s attractive to most men. The same can’t be said about men who go to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:16 PM
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There are some women who don’t work that way. Unfortunately, most women (like most men) care about physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 10:12 PM
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Most women already have a pretty high investment level So do men. For example, getting a good male physique is much harder than getting a good female physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:48 PM
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If there is no initial surface level attraction then there is no relationship. Women will not give you a chance if you aren’t attractive to them. I do agree that you should workout for yourself, not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 06:45 PM
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I go to the gym 5 days a week, eat healthy, dress nice, have good hair, and have good hygiene. I encourage all men to do at least some of those things because it’s important to keep a good image for things like your career or your social circle. It helps with my dating life sure, but growing 6 inches taller would be a lot more beneficial to my dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 05:17 PM
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All kinds of men in real life end up in relationships That’s because women hit the wall and lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:20 PM
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There are people who are objectively attractive and objectively unattractive. Modeling agencies are not hiring 5’0, balding, crooked nosed men for a reason. Women now are the only ones who are relevant in this discussion. Symmetrical faces or any other attractive quality (tall stature, fit body, broad shoulders, etc) are stepping stones for sexual desire. Without even one attractive quality there isn’t going to be sexual desire. No. Just because one person thinks you’re attractive does not mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 03:07 AM
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Most women have preferences that gravitate towards what is considered universally attractive in men. In other words, most women prefer the same or similar thing. I don’t have to poll all women who have ever existed to know this fact. Do you even know what sampling is? Symmetrical faces are considered universally attractive to everyone. How is this difficult for you to understand? If one ugly person conceived a child without raping all that means is that they found someone willing to tolerate the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:30 PM
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You wrote an entire essay and you’re still incorrect. Attractiveness is not entirely subjective. It is true that physical preferences do deviate from person to person, these preferences, however, rarely deviate from what is considered universally attractive. For example, a woman might prefer men with olive or light brown skin, but she still wants her potential partner to be taller than her and have broad shoulders. It is rare for a woman to prefer men who are shorter than they are and have narro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:32 PM
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9.99 out of 10 men are not objectively ugly. Most women do pick men based on their looks, whether it be their height, face, the amount of hair on their head, shoulder width, facial hair, body type, etc. Women also select men based on other features like income and personality, but having good physical features is definitely one of the more important ones for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:35 PM
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15 year old boy is forced into parenthood through statutory rape Society: “Eh that’s kinda bad I guess” 30 year old woman has unprotected sex with 20 different men and becomes pregnant Society: “Nooo! She shouldn’t be forced into parenthood! She has dreams and aspirations! Abortion is her human right!”
/r/PussyPassDenied12/10/21 07:38 PM
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If a woman diets and wears makeup most men will consider her attractive. If a man diets, goes to the gym 5 times a week, dresses nice, etc, only a small percentage of women will find him attractive (unless he’s naturally good looking). Women have a much greater return on invest than men do when it comes to physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:17 PM
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6’2
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 01:47 AM
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Not surprising, considering the fact that they praised a female serial killer for killing men
/r/PussyPassDenied09/10/21 09:05 PM
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Muh “postpartum depression”. If you’re a woman and you murder your child or children, just blame it on postpartum depression and you’ll get a slap on the wrist. Or if you murder your husband just blame it on “battered woman syndrome” and you’ll get a slap on the wrist. It must be so hard to be a woman who’s not held accountable for her own actions.
/r/AntiFeminists09/10/21 04:40 PM
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This is fake. Your average FDS users I rest my case.
/r/AntiFeminists05/10/21 07:59 PM
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He didn’t say we should take makeup away from women, he said makeup is deceptive and it is.
/r/AntiFeminists26/09/21 03:12 PM
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Makeup, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, etc, are the reasons why women are perceived to be better looking than men. If beauty can be taken away with a wet wipe then it’s not real beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:47 PM
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You’re not disputing my point. Most women will be approached by men, and most men will have to approach women if they want a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:41 PM
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It’s objectively not true. Most women do not have to “make an effort” to be approached by a man. Men are the ones who “make an effort” since we’re the ones who approach woman. Women rarely approach men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 03:55 PM
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Average wallflowers don’t get attention That’s just completely false, unless the type of parties you were at were small or formal. Most women are approached by men in these types of events, even fat or ugly ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:53 AM
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Have you ever attended a party in high school or college?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:21 PM
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Men find women to be the hottest thing ever if they’re not obese and use makeup. Women will always see average men as average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:19 AM
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Most men find most women attractive, while most women find most men unattractive. So that’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:20 PM
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It’s rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:09 PM
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I’ve seen this with average enough guys as well. Then they aren’t average, or the women are below average, or both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:59 PM
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The only ones with that much power are top tier men (income, looks, or status). Your average joe doesn’t hold that much power over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:51 PM
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If that happens a woman can force a man to pay child support. It’s illegal for a man not to pay child support for his own child.
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 06:53 PM
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Women can legally abandon infants. Women can also give up their children for adoption (without the father’s consent). Even without abortion women still have more options than men do. It’s funny because women say abortion is the only option they have, when in reality they have other options that don’t involve baby murder. When women say “abortion is the only option we have” what they really mean is “abortion is the easiest option we have because it doesn’t interfere with our lives”. Most women wh…
/r/AntiFeminists02/09/21 06:51 PM
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MGTOW: “Haha fat women are landwhales” Reddit: Bans them FDS: Worships a serial killer Reddit: “I’ll pretend I didn’t see that”
/r/AntiFeminists28/08/21 11:42 PM
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Good looking men are having most of the casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 01:21 PM
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How do you know it’s not photoshopped? The fact that you asked me this question means you don’t know if it’s photoshopped or not (despite the fact you confidently told me it was photoshopped). It doesn’t matter because you can find plenty of before and after videos on Youtube. And if most men don’t care, then why the fuck does it matter? Most men don’t care as long as you look good to them. An ugly woman with ten pounds of clown paint on her face looks good to a lot of men. A beautiful woman wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:11 PM
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Wow did you just post a blurry photoshopped pic? It’s not photoshopped and the photo is clear enough. If you want more photos just google “acne before and after makeup” for more images or go on youtube and do the same. If that woman went out in public w that much makeup she’d look like a circus clown. Most men wouldn’t care, neither does society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 04:20 PM
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Even crappy skin looks good with makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:54 AM
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Makeup is what makes most women pretty. Good and proper skincare does not make most women pretty. If it did then most women wouldn’t need makeup to be attractive. Does makeup trick men? Yes, but that’s why it works so well compared to skincare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:53 AM
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Funny how you think take care of your skin means makeup. Makeup is what makes women pretty, not the skincare. Skincare is insignificant compared to makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 11:15 PM
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All participants reported feeling like they made judgments of “creepiness” in less than a minute (instantly = 41%, 10 seconds = 33%, 30 seconds = 21%, 60 seconds = 5%). You conveniently left this out of your summary of the fourth study. Most participants (mostly women) made judgements of creepiness in less than ten seconds. Meaning that they mostly make judgements of creepiness based on physical appearance alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 01:10 PM
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Getting into a relationship shouldn’t be as hard as becoming a bodybuilder. Obviously getting into a relationship should take effort, but if you’re spending all of your free time trying to get a girlfriend then you’re doing it wrong. That’s like going to the gym 4 hours a day, 5 days a week for a year just to gain one pound of muscle. Putting in countless hours into Tinder just to get one or two relationships isn’t worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 01:57 AM
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To insert foreign objects in breasts and ass? Women don’t need breast augmentation surgery nor do you guys need ass augmentation because men have a wide variety of preferences. Some men prefer small boobs to big boobs for example. To remove the ribs? Nobody is telling women to remove their ribs. To eat 600 calories per day? Women also don’t need to starve themselves. You guys can eat as much as you want as long as you burn enough calories to maintain a healthy weight. they deserve broken legs Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 08:04 PM
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There are lots of surgeries and procedures that can fix height Limb lengthening? Isn’t that the surgery where your legs are broken? I’m not talking about invasive, expensive, and painful fixes to issues. I’m talking about reasonable solutions, ones that don’t involve tens of thousands of dollars. Women have these solutions, men don’t. As if every boss is a girlboss Tall, good looking men are seen as authority figures and are viewed favorably by most people, including men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:54 PM
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Everyone is judged by genetics. If a woman isn’t born with a perfect hourglass figure, pretty face and a good skin - life is over. Women don’t need a naturally pretty face or naturally clean skin if they use makeup. Women also don’t need “a perfect hourglass figure” (Waist to hip ratio of 0.7), not naturally at least. Women can easily conceal fat at the waist using waist trainers or by “tucking it in” and exaggerate hip size by using specific types of clothes. I know women who look like they hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 04:47 PM
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Way less pressure when it comes to looks. Lol, no. We’re judged harshly on our looks (just like women are). The only difference between men and women is that men are judged on their genetics, women are judged on the effort they put into their looks. An ugly woman who goes to the gym 3-5 times a week, covers her face with makeup, and wears nice clothes is going to be considered attractive by most men. An ugly man is never going to be considered attractive by most women (unless he gets plastic sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 03:41 PM
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Men are judged harshly on their height, the amount of hair on their head, the broadness of their shoulders, facial symmetry, etc. These things are out of their control. Sure, a short, bald man can build wealth to compensate but building wealth is harder than getting plastic surgery as a woman. Most women don’t even need plastic surgery to become high value anyways. They only need to go to the gym 3-5 times a week, eat a balanced diet, and wear makeup to become high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:22 PM
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Nowhere but it’s 100% satire
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/21 11:32 AM
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Unattractive guys aren’t getting quality women unless they’re rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:44 PM
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Men don’t seem to understand what triggers arousal for women If you’re physically attractive and aren’t socially retarded then you’ll be able to arouse a woman. A few weeks ago I talked to a woman who was on my track and field team in high school. She asked me for a picture (we hadn’t seen each other in years). I sent her a picture of myself and within a few texts she sent me her address and invited me over. Had I been bald or fat or ugly she wouldn’t have invited me over. Edit: The picture I se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:56 PM
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Women lie about their bodycount Female virtue signaling knows no bounds, that’s why self reported surveys are unreliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:14 PM
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A 20 year old woman can manipulate the SHIT out of a young guy. It happens all the time. A young guy can also manipulate the SHIT out of a young woman. Manipulation is not exclusive to any age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:01 AM
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Income over 60k doesn’t mean much. Height and other genetic traits are more important. A non-fat short guy who’s earning 70k a year is still considered low value by most women. A non-fat tall guy who’s earning 50k a year is considered high value by most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:01 PM
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Women have such inflated egos that even below average looking ones think they’re super models
/r/AntiFeminists16/07/21 03:34 PM
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Hypergamy has gotten so bad that women think Chris Evans is “very average”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:04 PM
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Very important for men and far less important for women. Women mostly rely on makeup and clothes frauding (strategically concealing bodyfat using their clothes) for their physical attractiveness, while men mostly rely on genetics (height, hairline, facial hair, etc). Most “pretty” women aren’t actually pretty, most of them are genetically average or below average. Take away makeup and clothes frauding and most “pretty” women would be unimpressive. The same can’t be said about men, an average or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 04:29 AM
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40 year olds can still be manipulated so let’s raise the age of consent to 50. Men who date women under the age of 50 are now pedophiles.
/r/AntiFeminists09/07/21 11:46 PM
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The science doesn’t disagree with my views. Older, single women are generally undesirable. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:32 AM
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Older women who are still single are likely LVW, get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:17 AM
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That’s just a small fringe group of older cat ladies. The overwhelming majority of women aren’t ok with dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:16 AM
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There are more young, single men than young, single women in the US. Neither gender is ok with “dying alone”, but women are especially not ok that idea
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:33 PM
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Obese Ugly without makeup Bad hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:13 PM
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Men would be more motivated to improve themselves if your average woman wasn’t so fat and lazy. Why work hard to get a LVW?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:44 PM
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Give women the same sex drive as men and they’ll have more sex…exclusively with the top 20% of men. That’s just female nature. Tinder is never going to be Grindr unless females outnumber males by a large margin and male sex drive is lowered
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 06:28 AM
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Lol you’re delusional. Looks matter get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:48 PM
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A woman has more entitlement in the tip of her pinky than a man does in his entire body. Male entitlement: “I don’t date fat women” Female entitlement: “He must be tall, handsome, rich, big dick, broad shoulders, head full of hair, naturally clean skin”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:41 PM
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“I only date tall, handsome, and rich men” -Woman who’s fat, ugly, and definitely not egotistical
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:33 PM
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Dating and relationships involve sex. Yes, I addressed this point already Being “online” is not the same thing as “uses dating apps”, did you know? Yes but we were talking about online dating websites and apps. Obviously I was referring to those.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:30 PM
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Again you’re making the false assumption all interactions online are based on wanting a hookup or ONS. Do you have any stats or data proving that men outnumber women online (whatever that means) 2:1? You literally made this point a few comments ago Men significantly outnumber women in dating sites Now you’re challenging me on it? Are you ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:17 PM
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Nope. It’s because men outnumber women (online) and women are pickier online. You’re making the false assumption that all interactions are based on wanting a hookup or ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:07 PM
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Hookup apps can lead to dating, and dating apps can be used to find sex It’s possible, but unlikely. A ONS is unlikely to form into a LTR and vice versa. Men significantly outnumber women in dating sites, and send out way more messages, because men want sex more than women. Nope. It’s because online dating is a numbers game for men. If we could get more responses from less messages then we would send less messages. The reality is we have to send a ton of messages just to get one response (most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 06:04 PM
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Hookups and LTRs are in completely different markets. Women want LTRs just as much as men do, yet they approach men for LTRs at low rates compared to men who do the same. Why? There’s a societal expectation for men to “court” women that persists to this day for two reasons. Women don’t want more work. Women can’t handle rejection. Your argument of “men have larger sex drives” only makes sense in the context of hookups since the primary goal is short term and is exclusively related to sex. While …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 05:20 PM
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Those things affect pursuit Pursuit of hookups, not LTRs, two completely different goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:36 PM
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Men are more willing to date women who are 6’1 than women are to date men who are 5’7 Tall women have it far, far easier than short men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:21 PM
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Men are thirstier than women. This is irrelevant to LTRs, both men and women (excluding older women) want LTRs at similar rates. Men are also physically stronger than women. This is also irrelevant. Most men are not physically forcing women to have sex with them or be in a LTR with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 04:09 PM
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It’s possible but realistically it won’t happen. Male thirst is too strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:34 PM
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They don’t desire a partner because they know they can’t get one that matches up to their standards. So they essentially give up and “choose” not to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:16 AM
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Out of 4 million. 100,000 is a drop in the bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 12:13 AM
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Women in their 40s only contribute to 3% of all births in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:27 PM
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Anecdotes don’t matter. Very few 40 + year old women are even having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:09 PM
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And yet…IVF exists. Very, very expensive, especially for single women. It is also not guaranteed to work. Women who want kids will find a way. Most women in their 40s don’t have the money to pay for IVF on top of paying for childbirth. Sure, some women in their 40s are willing to pay whatever amount to have a child, but most 40+ year old women are deterred by the price tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 11:03 PM
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Just because someone chooses to be alone doesn’t mean they’re not “miserable and lonely”. There are plenty of wine aunts who suddenly “choose” to be single at age 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:52 PM
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Yes, but it’s difficult. I hate to be the one to inform you that female fertility drastically declines after the age of 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:50 PM
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but “too late to have kids” will never stop a 40 year old woman who wants kids Age will certainly stop a 40 year old from having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:41 PM
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Women who are still single at 40 are likely women who overvalue themselves. They have come to the realization that men, who can live up to their standards, will not settle for them. It’s also too late for them to have kids so that also deters them from seeking a relationship. Men over 40 can still have kids so they have more incentives to find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:15 PM
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Cat lady of the year award goes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 10:07 PM
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You’re just repeating that “it matters.” No, I’m saying it matters the most. Personality matters but not as much as physical appearance. I’m not sure if you understand how physical attraction is calculated in the brain. Short stature? Unattractive. Bald head? Unattractive. Asymmetrical face? Unattractive. Fat body? Unattractive. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:38 PM
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Physical attraction is what matters the most. A guy can carry himself well and say the right things but if he’s 5’6 and bald then it won’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:31 PM
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I’ve never heard of that happening, but it’s likely as rare as gay guys who write “long detailed” sex fantasies about contracting HIV. In other words, so rare that it’s statistically insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:53 PM
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“A few gurls made comments about their short kings that disproves the trend!” Also who cares about virtue signaling from teen girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:48 PM
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Mostly gen z and FLR or GFD spaces. Gen z girls in particular. Are you high? Gen z is worse on male height than any generation in human history. They actively shit on short guys and put tall guys on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:28 PM
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It’s unlikely she isn’t virtue signaling, unless she’s a 4’6 dwarf.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:33 AM
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Your response was that they’re both wooed They both are being wooed. Your claim is that average women are not being wooed. You never made a claim that they were wooed in different ratios I don’t have to specify ratios because that’s irrelevant to the original claim you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:05 AM
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Response to your edit: Nope. Never said that. All I said is that men try to “woo” average women, maybe not at the same rate they try to “woo” beautiful women, but they still try to “woo” average women. Edit: Melissa Mccarthy isn’t average, she’s obese. She goes in the “ugly girls” category.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:59 AM
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“I was mocking your mocking of my own argument”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:56 AM
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I was obviously mocking your argument. My actual counter argument incorporates facts and statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:53 AM
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Yet you made everything about yourself by basing your argument purely on your own anecdotes. I assume you can see your own hypocrisy now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:49 AM
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how men respond/approach each This counts as part of my male experience since I’m the one approaching women. You need to stop pretending what men’s lived experiences are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:41 AM
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She’s virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 03:31 AM
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You women need to stop pretending what men’s lived experiences are, before I was exposed to the red-pill I (and most bluepilled men) simped for average looking women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:25 AM
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I can easily tell when someone is virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:21 AM
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They lead with wooing for average women, and hope for free sex with ugly women FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:18 AM
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Yes because men don’t pay for expensive dates with average women, not at all. We don’t pay for expensive meals, we don’t pay for movie tickets, we don’t give women free rides in our cars, etc. Average women are completely unspoiled by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 12:07 AM
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Nope. They get guys willing to spoil them. You’re describing ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:53 PM
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Make one with an average looking woman, and be amazed at the men willing to wine and dine her, take her shopping … and not sending dick pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:49 PM
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You wouldn’t date that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:37 PM
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I didn’t say we were worse off now…In fact I implied we were better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:06 PM
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The “economics is why the male virginity rate is so high” theory is wrong. Economically, we were worse off 12 years ago than we are now. Yet, male virginity rates were much lower 12 years ago than they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 10:56 PM
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Most guys I know who are addicted to porn can’t get laid. Hell I use to be addicted to porn in my teens and my early 20s, back then I had a difficult time getting laid. Eventually I improved myself and learned how to get laid and I lost my virginity, and that’s when I realized sex is on a whole other level. Even the most vanilla sex is better than any porno. Now I’m far more prone to sex addiction than porn addiction, I rarely watch porn nowadays. Why would I if I can get the real thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:48 PM
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Outliers do not disprove general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:07 PM
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The examples you named are outliers. Outliers do not disprove general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:06 PM
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But they didn’t grow up with it now did they? In 2008? Yes they did. Most US households had access to the internet by 2001. Lol I was using the internet to find women to fuck for 7 years by then. You were part of a tiny group of men who did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:50 AM
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Normies barely found the internet back then. I was a child in 2008 and I found porn very easily. Most western adults likely did as well. OLD was back then too. Lol OLD back then was minuscule compared to what it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:14 AM
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Social media and OLD have made getting laid infinitely harder. Porn was easily accessible in 2008 yet male virginity rates were a lot lower than they are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:01 AM
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Men would rather get laid than watch porn. Porn addicts are not studs. Porn addicts are men who are virgins or have an extremely difficult time getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:56 AM
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FDS is filled with low value women who overvalue themselves. They expect men to change everything about themselves, while at the same time FDS users do not want to change anything about themselves. Not their weight, not their crappy behavior, not their lifestyle, but they want men to do that. The lack of self improvement is why most of these women will fail to create a healthy, successful relationship. FDS in a nutshell: “I’m perfect just the way I am! Men are the problem” Single, overweight, 35…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:47 PM
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The end results are the only thing that matter. Men message pretty women more than they message ugly women? Cool. Ugly women are still going on more dates than average men (using OLD). Why? Ugly women are still receiving a significant amount of messages from men. At the same time average men aren’t receiving responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:17 PM
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Why is it meaningless? Because men rarely receive messages from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:56 PM
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That’s meaningless because most first messages are sent by men, not by women. Men send more than 3 times more messages than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:49 PM
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None of what you said is accurate. First of all men are not exclusively swiping right on pretty women, they’re swiping right on most women. They’re not exclusively messaging pretty women, they’re messaging most women. Online dating is a numbers game for average men. Second of all, 30 years ago women had much smaller egos. Back then women received less validation than they do today because they didn’t have social media. LVW rarely received compliments, so when guys complemented them or flirted wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:17 PM
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he never had a chance with 90% of these women I mention to begin with Now he doesn’t have a chance with 99% of women. Women have always been picky but now they’re even more picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:58 PM
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Because average guys had more realistic expectations Lol, it’s the other way around, women were the ones with more realistic expectations. Now their expectations are far less realistic. Online dating for men is god awful because of women being extremely picky
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:38 PM
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Average guys had a better chance of getting laid before social media and online dating than they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:12 PM
6

If you’re not an asexual then life without sex is horrible, regardless of your other hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:51 PM
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Yes! I agree! Men who are 5’4, bald, and ugly are extremely successful! All you need is confidence! It’s not like women have height requirements! Or reject men who don’t have hair! Women are selfless angels! They definitely don’t have sex with good looking men they’ve only known for a few minutes over ugly men they’ve known for years!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:04 PM
3

Basically Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 12:56 PM
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This just goes to show how bad they must have had it as girls. No, it goes to show how bad they must have had it as guys. If being a guy was easier than being a woman then they likely would not have “detransitioned”. Then they realize fucking up their body with hormones isn’t the answer. Yes because injecting hormones into their bodies made their life harder. They realized that being a man is a lot harder than they initially anticipated. They likely thought “I’ll be taken seriously” and “All I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:29 AM
1

MtF transgenders “detransition” less than FtM. That’s a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:51 PM
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I’m stating facts. Many FtM transgenders are balding, most of them are short men, they have act a certain way (this behavior eventually depresses them), etc. FtM transgenders transition thinking that “This will fix my identity issues, my quality of life will increase if I become a man”. Unfortunately reality hits them like a freight train and they come to the realization that being a man is tough. They have to pursue women (if they’re “straight” men), they have to be “mentally strong”, they have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 06:22 PM
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Women manage their mental illness through anti depressants.. men use alcohol Both of those drugs are bad for you but don’t use methods that are as heinous Women who attempt suicide are less committed to it than men are. Even when women use firearms, they don’t usually shoot themselves in the head
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:45 PM
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A depressed woman who sits on her ass is far, far more likely to be in a romantic relationship than depressed men who are in the same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:42 PM
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Nope, women discourage men from going to therapy through their actions. Men are tolerant of female mental illness, we’re more willing to accept a partner’s mental illness than women are. A man going to therapy would be admitting to their partner “Hey I have a mental illness”. Although most women would initially accept it, over time they would lose attraction to their partner. That’s why mentally ill men (regardless of whether or not they’re being treated) are far less likely to be in a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 10:05 PM
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Why would it matter if a guy of 5’3 is taller than me? Lol you’re a rarity. Statistically speaking short women overwhelmingly prefer large height gaps (7-8+ inches). Male suicide rates are higher because they are less likely to seek mental health help. Society discourages men from seeking mental health help. That’s the standard that’s placed upon us by not only men but also women through their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:45 PM
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They’re fat and ugly. Literally no redeeming qualities but somehow they’re dating good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 09:38 PM
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If you prefer short guys over tall guys then you’re one in a thousand. 99.9% of women do not find shortness attractive. If a woman farts in public she’s disgusting Anyone who farts in public is disgusting We have to put up a facade to be accepted by society.. guys throw on jeans and a nasty shirt and go to work.. men clearly have it easier then women Yes men have it easier, that’s why most “detrans” people are FtMtF (Female to Male to Female). That’s why male suicide rates are higher. That’s why…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 06:43 PM
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How dare you criticize good, honest sex work! There is nothing wrong with selling nudes of yourself! Selling nudes is actually empowering (only when women do it)! You sexist, misogynistic pig!
/r/PussyPassDenied04/06/21 05:33 PM
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You have no argument because you know I’m right.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:25 PM
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LOL There was a woman who pretended to be a man for a few months, she developed severe depression and suicidal ideation as a result of the experience. Most “detrans” people are FtMtF (Female to Male to Female). Yeah, being a man is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:16 PM
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I have never seen a hot woman date an unattractive man who wasn’t tall, rich, or famous. I have seen plenty of fat ugly women date tall handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:12 PM
0

Everything you said was wrong. Women are raised to be “strong women” who don’t need to conform to traditional gender roles. Affirmative action helps white women more than it helps ethnic men in obtaining a white collar job. There is no patriarchy, we live in a matriarchy in the west. Blaming women for anything (even if they are responsible) is considered sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:46 PM
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We have to have a certain body, dress a certain way, our hair can’t be gray, our legs must be shaved, our butt has to be a perfect size, breasts can’t be too small or too large Men also have body standards to adhere to, the only difference is that we adhere to much more strict body standards. There are men who like small boobs, there are men who like small butts, but there aren’t women who prefer short men (outside of virtue signaling short girls who end up dating tall guys anyways). There aren’…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 03:27 PM
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Brad’s status as the bar owner allowed him to be very average or even below average in other areas, like physical attractiveness or height and still pull a girl Being a bar owner does not make you more attractive to women unless you’re the owner of a very successful bar. Owning a business in general does not make you a pussy magnet unless the business is successful. Artists/musicians often carry vibes of excitement and mystique. Women are not going to be attracted to an ugly or even an average l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:10 PM
3

That man actually did less than the woman. She sold the child rape footage to multiple people (distribution of CP), he didn’t yet he got a similar sentence.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 08:38 PM
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Men who did what that women did would get life.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:58 PM
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It’s not sexist to acknowledge facts. She got a pass because she’s a woman. No way would a full grown man get two years in prison for producing CP. Hell Jerry Harris is facing decades in prison for producing CP (fine by me), yet a woman does the same thing and she only gets two years? That’s sexist.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:43 PM
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Wtf are you talking about? All I’m saying is he was a minor when he committed the offense that’s why the judge went easy on him (he shouldn’t have).
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:34 PM
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He was underage when he raped the toddler that’s why he was spared.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:27 PM
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“Durrr I’m braindead and I don’t know how to read1!1!1!1 I also think child rape is ok1!1!1”
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:22 PM
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Neither of those men recorded their rapes. Let’s not forget that filming child rape is considered to be production of child porn, that carries a minimum sentence of 15 years in federal prison. This woman only got two years in prison. This would never happen if a man recorded himself raping with a child.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:21 PM
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Raping a child is a thousand times worse than raping a drunk college girl
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:16 PM
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A man would’ve been sentenced to 20+ years in prison for doing what she did.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:14 PM
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Let’s see she produced child porn (15 years minimum), possessed child porn (5 years), and committed statutory rape (2-3 years) and she only got 2 years? Seems like a pussypass to me.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/04/21 07:11 PM
2

What’s so confusing? FDS users think the majority of men have nothing to offer just like Haunting_Feeling_163 thinks the majority of women have nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:48 PM
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FDS summed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:44 PM
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My mom? No, she’s not a millennial or a zoomer (aka the degenerate generations). My sister? Probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:18 PM
3

18-19 year olds generally prefer men in their early 20s over men in their teens, I know this from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:07 PM
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I stopped hairloss by using topical finasteride combined with minoxidil and Ketoconazole. As a result I’ve been able to keep my hair. Had I not gone on treatment I would’ve been screwed. I would be unattractive (for my age), far less women would be attracted to me, I would have less confidence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 05:01 PM
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I think women who get upset over the word “ugly” being used multiple times in a post about ugly women are ugly women. It’s not your fault you were born ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:58 AM
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Anders Holm is married to an ugly woman, that doesn’t mean men don’t care about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 02:57 AM
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And why are women always OK with being single Nope. Women are not ok with being single. Just look at FDS. It’s filled with single, ugly women who can’t get men to commit to them and are mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 02:53 AM
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your post suggest that you think women should give guys they’re not attracted to “a chance” How?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 12:30 AM
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Can confirm: Most females who post in FDS, even the ugliest ones, are sexist assholes who think they deserve the best men. In reality they deserve to spend the rest of their lives alone with their 12 cats and boxes of wine. So this comment I’m replying to is basically just an angry and ugly (inside and out) woman who got offended by my post and decided to rant. You’re welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:14 PM
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There’s nothing incel-y about my post. Edit: Of course you post in FDS, your dumb comment now makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:05 PM
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I never have. Telling women to date men they’re not attracted to is a recipe for a shitty relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:04 PM
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Let me guess, you’re ugly and got offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:02 PM
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Why are you mad? Are you an ugly woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:00 PM
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Women also lose attraction to their husbands as time goes on and also cheat on them with a better looking guy. Misery goes both ways in a marriage. Especially considering the fact most dead bedrooms are caused by women not feeling attracted to their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 11:11 PM
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In what way? Because married men live slightly longer than unmarried men according to one study?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:59 PM
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It’s mostly ugly women “giving ugly men a chance”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:56 PM
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Ugly women are going to date ugly men regardless of what my reddit post says.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:24 PM
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She posts in FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:24 PM
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You post in FDS, your opinion is meaningless. www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2015/08/27/why-women-are-more-likely-to-initiate-divorce/%3foutputType=amp Women initiate divorce more often than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:22 PM
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I bet I can do better That’s more of an ugly woman thing than an ugly man thing but this mindset is still prevalent in both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 10:07 PM
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What are you talking about? Many ugly women are dating ugly men, barely any ugly women are dating good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:57 PM
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She’s hating on men as a gender. I have not once hated on women as a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:50 PM
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why not just go for the hot guy? She can’t get the hot guy to settle for her. Or any man who’s more attractive than herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:48 PM
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Whoops I made the mistake of assuming you weren’t a man hating feminist. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:38 PM
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You missed the point of my post, most women who go for “ugly guys” are ugly themselves. Realistically the only option ugly women have is ugly men (for dating, but not hookups). A hot guy isn’t going to settle for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:37 PM
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Women chose the best get they can get. It’s as simple as that. An ugly woman isn’t getting a male super model, she’s getting an ugly dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:26 PM
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Any woman should be glad that a man gave her a chance. It goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:20 PM
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The gender pay gap is a myth. Man get paid more because they don’t have to take maternity leave when they have a kid, men aim for higher paying jobs on average, and men are more competitive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 08:11 PM
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There’s always a desperate guy who’s willing to take anything unfortunately
/r/PussyPassDenied16/03/21 04:52 AM
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Biggest pussypassdenied I’ve ever seen.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/03/21 01:40 PM
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Women can’t give men good dating advice, just like men can’t give women good dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:05 PM
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To talk to non incels/femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 06:03 PM
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Ideal=Fit with some muscle mass (mostly in the legs) and lowish bodyfat (10-18%) Men aren’t picky about female height. For me personally as long as she’s under 6’ then I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 10:07 PM
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It depends on the man and woman. A woman with an hourglass or pear shaped body carries fat better than a man who has narrow shoulders. Conversely a man with broad shoulders carries fat better than a woman with an apple shaped body.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 09:57 PM
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Women aren’t interested in rich, handsome men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 09:52 PM
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Most women who post in FDS are ugly that’s why they need a “dating strategy”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 02:52 PM
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I’m going to throw a tantrum because his opinion hurt my feelings Get some help and grow thicker skin. You clearly can’t handle reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 10:45 PM
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Most men in their 30s can get women in their 20s. Most women in their 30s can only get men in their 30s. Stop “coping”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 10:03 PM
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Men rate women based on attractiveness, not on how fuckable they are. A fat woman is considered fuckable to most men but not attractive. It’s a known fact that men rate women highly when it comes to attractiveness. Women, on the other hand, tend to rate men on the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to attractiveness. Women are harsher than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 04:42 AM
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Lol that’s like me saying “I find super models more attractive than regular looking women... but doesn’t mean I want to date super models. I want to date regular looking women because super models are basically barbie dolls to me and are probably bad in bed” Everyone can see through your “reasoning”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:35 PM
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I wouldn’t say a 5 year age gap is “close in age”. There are also millions of married couples in which the man is more than 10 years older than the woman in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:38 PM
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Let’s be honest, you don’t want to date younger men because you can’t get them to commit. If you could you would date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:33 PM
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Lol I’m a man I think I know what men find attractive (it’s objectively younger women who are in their 20s).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:12 AM
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Most men date their own age actually [That’s actually false, most men date younger women. As men age their desire to date younger women only becomes stronger](www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/meet-catch-and-keep/201904/what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage%3famp) Youth also isn’t as important for men. A rugged looking man is attractive to many older women. A rugged looking woman is attractive to very few men. Thinking otherwise is “cope”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:06 AM
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Men look much worse than women as they age Most women are attractive because of their youth, once they lose that they have nothing. That’s why men tend to date younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:31 AM
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Men tend to have a more narrow view of beauty Not true at all I don’t know what you’re basing this opinion on, men like fat women, skinny women, average women, tall women, short women, flat chested women, busty women, etc. I know women who like short men Lol good one. They don’t like short men, they tolerate their height at best. Many women see being bald as attractive Yeah if you’re the Rock or Jason Statham (aka facially attractive) Plenty of ethnic men are viewed as attractive Yes the good lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 05:25 PM
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Most young women are desirable to most men. Even the small percentage of women who aren’t desirable to most men still have it easier than your average man, since men have a wide variety of preferences (unlike women). Short men exist, ethnic men exist, balding/bald men exist, men with grey hairs exist, men with wide hips exist, men who can’t grow facial hair exist, men who have round faces exist, men with narrow shoulders exist, men with severe acne exist, genuinely ugly men exist, etc. Yet no wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 05:07 PM
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Yes. Mostly subconsciously. This scene from Louie shows louis ck begging a man not to kick his ass (in front of his date), his date later comments that she lost attraction to him as a result of the confrontation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:26 AM
1

Doubt it. Unless you’re obese and don’t wear makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:13 PM
0

Me: I must be the pickiest woman on the planet! FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:07 PM
2

FDS is filled with manipulative sociopaths so prob not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:09 PM
8

Imagine being a “femcel”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:06 PM
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FOBs do, but if they were born and raised within the US they’re likely going to date other races
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:40 PM
5

Hispanic women want white men or black men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:03 PM
3

Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:41 PM
36

Literally any beta male will satisfy your needs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:17 PM
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How to get a bf as a woman: Exist
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:04 PM
1

They probably do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:23 PM
2

I’m a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:23 PM
5

American justice system is notoriously bad about domestic violence For domestic violence against men? Yes. For domestic violence against women? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 09:17 PM
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And? There are women who complain about being friend zoned and there are men who don’t complain about being friend zoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 08:10 PM
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Most men are attracted to most women. If a woman catches feelings for a male friend chances are it will be reciprocated. The same can’t be said about males who catch feelings for female friends (it likely won’t be reciprocated). Women usually get what they want, men don’t, and that’s why men complain more about this type of stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:50 PM
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Men have it better in my parent’s home country in terms of treatment, because the culture over there is patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:10 PM
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Some unattractive women will eventually settle for some unattractive men I don’t deny that. This happens when women realize they can’t do any better and are running out of time (same thing happens with average looking women and average looking men). In the past most unattractive men were able to get married, but whether this holds true for the future is unknown (marriage rates are declining so unlikely that it holds true).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 12:47 PM
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Harder for men, easier for women. It’s easy to be attractive as a woman, it’s hard to be attractive as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:16 AM
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Except women. If I was a woman I’d be married to royalty by now with how easy it is to be attractive to men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:12 AM
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Again I never said older guys were unaffected by aging, but they’re affected by aging a lot less than women are
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 12:30 AM
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Never said that. The difference is it negatively impacts men a lot less than it does women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:34 PM
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Women tend to gain weight in their breasts and hips Lol women actually gain fat where skinny is suppose to be and become skinny where fat is suppose to be. The only women who gain fat in their tits as they age are women who already have a good fat distribution. All other women lose fat in their tits and end up with saggy tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 10:02 PM
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women actually seem to age better than men If by “age better” you mean gaining more weight in all the wrong places then yes women age better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:32 PM
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we eat better That’s why there are more obese women than obese men in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:30 PM
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I’d be an athletic lesbian with a nice ass who gets laid every night (only with hot women)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:24 PM
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Pornography shouldn’t be banned. Banning it would just drive it underground and into the dark web
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:20 PM
11

How many women prefer short men over tall men? How many women prefer non-white men over white men? How many women prefer men with round faces and weak chins over men with thin faces and strong chins? How many women prefer fat men over athletic men? How many women prefer bald men over men who have a head full of thick hair? Men don’t overestimate women’s attraction towards “chad”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:01 PM
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Second of all, prostitution is not easy work. First of all both your lady bits and face must be attractive I agree with your overall argument, but I disagree with this statement. You don’t have to have a good face and a good body to be successful on onlyfans. Sara Jay has a successful onlyfans, ava devine also has a successful onlyfans, and they’re both ugly. The only thing that’s difficult about prostitution is being able to degrade yourself for a stranger
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 08:12 PM
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Nah, it’s cheaper just to get a woman on birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 06:06 PM
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That only works if you’re attractive to the woman you’re trying to bang. It also takes skill to manipulate a woman that way without her catching onto your bs, trust me I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 01:30 PM
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Why is it worse for men? Gender roles. A man can’t be a man after being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 02:41 AM
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Who cares if people will “back him” (mostly family and maybe a close friend or two who will likely abandon him if he’s found guilty) if his name is forever stamped with “rape” next to it? Telling anybody about being raped is a terrible experience for either gender, but it’s infinitely worse for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 02:22 AM
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People only give the benefit of the doubt to high profile people (celebrities, politicians, pro athletes, etc), even then some of them don’t receive that treatment. If a regular joe was accused of rape most people would turn against him, his reputation would be ruined, he’d lose his job, and he would be shunned from society. Rape accusations ruin lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 02:04 AM
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For example, feminists complain about the nonexistent wage gap and want to get paid more (essentially more than men) for doing the same work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:33 PM
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Women in the west are legally equal to men. We’re not complaining about women having rights, we’re complaining about women wanting more “rights” (societal benefits).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:21 PM
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Yes women are oppressed. They are so oppressed they receive less prison time than men for committing the same crime, they win the majority of custody battles, they heavily benefit from divorce, affirmative action, can ruin a man’s life with a single accusation, can get away with paternity fraud, have societal safety nets, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:18 PM
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Fact: Men are more oppressed than women in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:09 PM
2

Now it’s that way for men who women “settle” with and decide to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:36 PM
2

The only guys who will take that type of sex are men who have only experienced starfish sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:33 PM
2

I’ve never met anyone or heard of anyone meeting via instagram, facebook, or twitter. You likely don’t know enough people because I know dozens of people who met through instagram alone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 02:44 AM
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Women want men who carry themselves well, aren’t mentally ill, confident, charming, funny, assertive, etc. Of course women (and men) often base their perception of a man’s personality on his physical appearance. For example, a short man who is confident and assertive is sometimes viewed as “insecure” (Napoleon complex) by women and is therefore undesirable. Personality matters but it doesn’t mean much if your physical appearance doesn’t match a woman’s perception of desirable male personality tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:45 AM
4

sex if always considered a positive by men, regardless of the context Not if it’s boring starfish sex in a dead bedroom relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:51 PM
3

Women always consider sex good, unless they have sex with a man they settled down with out of desperation and don’t consider attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:28 PM
3

Most couples that meet online don’t meet on swipe apps, they meet on social media (instagram, facebook, twitter, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:25 PM
1

The main problem with that is that you’re raising another man’s orgasm on your dime. Single mothers are the optimal choice for men with no dignity who like getting pegged
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:21 PM
1

I never said short guys couldn’t get laid. You missed my point entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 12:50 PM
4

How is it an “over complication”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:30 AM
0

Yes, and I also regularly interact with people that’s how I came to my conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:08 AM
36

That’s what I would say, if I was delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 01:31 AM
84

Most women would rather date a tall anxious man over a short confident one. Most women would also rather date an anxious good looking man over a confident ugly guy. Mental health matters for sure but looks matter just as much (if not more)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 11:07 PM
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I’m average looking (I also have good social skills that took years to develop) and cold approaching ugly women works about 1/3rd of the time for me, for average looking or above average looking women it’s even worse (like 1/10th of the time). Odds are likely worse for ugly men, and thus they have to work hard to get a woman within their league from cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:38 PM
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Ugly men have to work hard to get ugly women. Ugly women only have to exist to get ugly men. This translates to average men who have to work hard to get average women, but average women only need to exist to get average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 07:13 PM
15

People who are undesirable and or don’t know what they’re doing are getting “fucked over by modern dating” regardless of gender Ugly men are getting fucked over more than ugly women. Hell, average men are getting fucked over probably as much as ugly women are getting fucked over. It’s not even by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:59 PM
5

The man should take responsibility, I don’t deny that. The woman, however, chose that man instead of a more responsible one (let’s be honest she had that option but didn’t take it), that’s the problem I was addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:44 AM
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Who’s the one carrying the baby? The woman. Who’s the gatekeeper of sex? The woman. The burden falls on the woman sorry if you don’t like reality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:33 AM
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It’s the responsibility of the woman to choose the “best genes” and clearly she chose wrong if she’s a single mom lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:28 AM
12

It’s the woman’s fault for choosing to fuck a man without a condom based on his physical aesthetics (or in your words “good genes”) and not on actual merit. The woman chose to be impregnated by a deadbeat because he looked good, not because he was willing or capable of raising a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 11:27 PM
13

Not according to crime statistics. Children raised by single mothers are 3 times more likely to end up in jail than children raised by two parents
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 11:14 PM
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It depends. There are fat women who are “curvy”, these women store most of their fat in their titties, hips, and ass, barely any of it goes to their face and waist. The problem is every fat woman thinks they’re “curvy” even if they have a huge gut or muffin top.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/12/20 10:25 PM
13

This type of reasoning is why there are so many single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 08:40 PM
2

I’m 6ft and most of the women I sleep with tell me they usually like shorter guys Lol good one
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:27 AM
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Can I ask how old are you? 22 the subconscious bias towards taller men has declined enormously Haha no, it has only increased enormously. Women are more height bias than ever before. Tall stature is physically attractive, it makes a man look masculine, assertive, confident, dominant, and powerful. It looks good and that’s really all that matters to women when it comes to height.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 01:16 AM
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Your bro is an outlier, it’s hard not to get girls at 6’4
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:13 PM
1

The real world. Tons of short, ugly dudes have girlfriends. Of course they probably worked hard for them even if they have amazing social skills and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 04:11 PM
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I agree, incels overestimate the importance of physical attractiveness. Yes it’s important, but it’s not everything. Being able to carry a conversation with charm is just as important as your appearance, most incels have shitty social skills and can’t carry a conversation to save their lives. They also have a shit load of mental illnesses, some of which kill their dating life on their own (social anxiety, extreme depression, extreme insecurity, etc). Men can afford to be ugly and short and still…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:22 PM
5

My sister’s ugly friend has men in the friend zone who does shit for her for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:50 PM
1

Hahahaha it was a joke not a dick don’t take it so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:59 PM
1

The keyword in that quote is “might” because it’s a possibility and I said that possibility is unlikely (it’s basic logic I don’t understand why you’re confused about it). pointy elbows, 2/10 at best Never heard of this meme. Regardless your average man is extremely forgiving of physical and mental flaws in women (you should thank men for being so generous).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:32 PM
1

No, for relationships too. Men on average have low physical standards for women. Even lower standards for hookups or ONS (basically nonexistent).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:50 PM
1

And even with her skill... it still looks like extremely thick pancake, not skin. Most modern men don’t care. We have low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:31 PM
1

It covers it well enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:47 PM
1

Women with that condition usually cover it up with makeup, hiding it from potential suitors. I guess if a guy did find out he might break up with her, but knowing men today they more than likely wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:04 PM
7

The other 50% of young women would be willing to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:07 AM
4

There is none. I can’t think of any physical deal breakers (besides controllable ones like fat) that would cause a young guy to reject a young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:31 AM
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50% of young women wouldn’t be willing to date a bald man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:19 AM
2

Social media is massively boosting the egos of most women while simultaneously tanking the egos of most men. As a result, women think they deserve the best of the best (sky high standards) while men feel lucky to have anything (low standards).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:31 AM
2

Women barely message men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:02 AM
1

No. Most indian and asian men are not incels (very few men in general can be considered incels), but I will admit dating is an uphill battle for them in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:39 PM
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It’s embarrassing how much more quality is available to men than vice versa for simply this. The bar is subterranean. People just want authentic connections The only type of women who struggle to make “authentic connections” are mentally ill, socially inept femcels. This is why charismatic guys and even just guys who open up in small social groups have consistent access to options Unless they are short, bald, or unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:55 PM
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But you subconsciously prefer it So? Most men are happy to date women who don’t have the “ideal body”. We have a wide variety of preferences, we’re not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 02:48 PM
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Female insecurity isn’t based in reality. Most men do NOT have strict requirements for women. We don’t require women to have the perfect instagram model body (big breasts, tiny waist, wide hips), most of us are happy to be with a woman who isn’t too fat and resembles a woman. Hell there are tons of men who prefer fat women or prefer women with small tits or prefer women who are tall or prefer women who are short. Unfortunately male insecurity is based in reality. Short guys for example are not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 03:35 AM
1

It’s low risk, high risk would mean there’s a high probability of something undesirable happening. With condoms pregnancies are unlikely to happen and STD infections are unlikely to occur as well. It feels great and is low risk. The only problem is that it takes a lot of work for a normal guy to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 11:35 PM
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Because incels are the only type of men who want to have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 02:54 PM
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I think a lot of incels have some form of autism or aspergers and that’s why they can’t get a gf or sex to save their lives but I doubt this is the reason most guys struggle in dating. I read that about 30% of men go without sex on a yearly basis, only about 1-2% of men are autistic. Clearly it’s something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 06:41 PM
2

And women marry fat men. For money. They use them as wallets. Or extreme desperation. Clearly you expect women to offer their bodies to men who can’t provide for the offspring You’re making it sound as if women don’t offer their bodies to complete strangers on a daily basis. As if sex is 100% transactional for women and they receive no enjoyment from it and that’s a harmful narrative to be telling men. Hell I hook up with women and I definitely wouldn’t be able to provide for a kid (clearly sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 10:08 PM
1

Sexual utility without humanity isn’t love Except for the fact men marry fat women and ugly women all the time. Men don’t marry “sexual utilities” they spend a night with them then ghost them. Either that or they pay for it (escorts or prostitutes). Everyone has to be useful There’s a difference between being useful and being used. Clearly you don’t know the difference since you see men as nothing more than walking, talking wallets. the pink pill LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 07:42 PM
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Appearance matters for everyone but it doesn’t matter for women the way it does for men Fixed it for you. Bbws are fiercely loved by men and ugly women with makeup are also loved. The same can’t be said about dudes with undesirable physical qualities unless they have a fat wallet (and are mostly loved because of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:09 PM
1

Men aren’t strict, as long as you don’t have a face that’s too ugly and have a body that’s vaguely feminine then using makeup and dieting should be enough to make you attractive to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 11:56 AM
6

No offense but there aren’t any 13-14 year olds who look 18
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:53 AM
1

I was slightly off it’s 1% on the dot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:33 AM
0

Statistically less than 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:26 AM
3

That’s not what I said. I simply stated the bs accusations (the “manipulation” accusations) drowned out the serious ones (involving minors). What I mean by “drowned out” is not that the serious accusations are invalid but it’s reasonable to assume the OP was not aware of them because of the large influx of bs accusations. Thus the defending was not disgusting on the OPs part. Nope. The bs accusations are not valid. They were adult women and it was consensual. To try to cancel a guy over those ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:38 PM
1

Most of the accusations are “hE mAdE mE fEeL sPeCiAl BuT hE oNlY wAnTeD sEx” and they drown out the serious accusations (the ones involving minors). It’s not disgusting to defend a man if you think he’s only being accused of bs
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:02 PM
1

Yeah but then you’ll end up in a dead bedroom situation because your wife married you for your money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 11:56 AM
1

Then why did you even reply with that comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:19 AM
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I don’t know why you’re arguing against me I’m the messenger. It’s not what I believe, it’s what half the male population in the US believes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:16 AM
2

That would definitely work especially in the US where nearly half the male population is armed and think getting vaccinated is a violation of their constitutional rights /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:06 AM
5

If 80% of men were forced to become celibate there would be riots.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 12:59 AM
2

Wow a woman that admits looks do matter, that’s oddly refreshing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 06:54 PM
2

I did this a lot as a teen. Sometimes you got something out of it, most times you didn’t. It’s a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 05:52 AM
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and what about women who don’t wear makeup on a regular basis? Those are the pretty ones. The ugly ones are too insecure to go through with that (no offense to them I assume they have great personalities)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:45 PM
1

Are you a straight man? Women get my dick hard and men don’t so I guess I’m straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:25 PM
1

Nah average face
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:16 PM
2

I don’t think it depends on one’s sexuality It does. I’ve never seen a person with this amount of makeup on them Go out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 01:29 PM
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I’m bi btw That hurts your point more than it helps btw, because that just means you prefer femininity to masculinity. If you said you were straight it would’ve helped your case a little. still think there are more beautiful women than men Men aren’t beautiful, men are handsome. Beautiful is word that has a feminine connotation to it. That just proves the previous point I made about you. it’s obvious that she wears a lot of it As do a lot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 05:58 AM
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This woman has thousands of male followers on instagram who lust after her. Despite her facial structure tons of men still want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:43 AM
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Plus, a lot of women find other women more attractive than men They’re called lesbians. You overvalue makeup You undervalue makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:40 AM
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Your argument proves my point. She’s an ugly woman (who wears makeup and is skinny) and has nabbed herself a NFL player
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:54 AM
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LOL Claire Thomas doesn’t have implants (they’re tiny for crying out loud). Abby pollock has a toned ass (it isn’t that bubbly at all). I would do a hard pass for any woman without hair
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:50 AM
1

To use your own comment Yeah but ur entire OP was about looks so that’s what I’m focusing on ok? I’m only talking about about her physical attractiveness. I also said he “likely” doesn’t, I don’t know if he does or doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:45 AM
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Women have far more diverse preferences on facial structure Yes that’s why men with round faces, weak chins, or weak jaws are extremely desirable! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:40 AM
2

90% of womens physical attractiveness comes from makeup and bodyweight. She’s ugly yet she’s skinny and wears makeup and a NFL football player wants to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:37 AM
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Men have a wide variety of body preferences. No hips, tits, or ass? No problem build an athletic body and men will find you attractive (claire thomas, monica granda, abby pollock, etc). Makeup alters the appearance of facial structure, making the actual facial structure not as important in attracting a mate (though decent facial structure is needed if you want to be considered pretty)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:16 AM
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She has bad facial structure yet she’s engaged to a professional football player. Kinda proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:10 AM
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Facial features do matter for both genders but men have extremely flexible preferences. Moon faced women are attractive to men, thin faced women are also attractive to men, women with extremely small chins are attractive to men, etc. Women overwhelmingly prefer a specific set of features (thin faced men, large chins, high cheekbones, etc). If a woman doesn’t have desirable facial features she could simply apply makeup to improve whatever she wants to improve (obviously makeup has limitations but…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:07 AM
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He definitely could’ve done better, he could’ve gotten a supermodel if he wanted to. He likely doesn’t care much about looks and likes her for her personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:00 AM
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Look at her instagram account, men simp for her despite her “ugliness”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:49 AM
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Media and culture go hand in hand. It isn’t cultural, it’s biological. White women have high waist to hip ratios so white men prefer women with high waist to hip ratios. Black women have low waist to hip ratios so black men prefer women with low waist to hip ratios. Men generally prefer women of their own race so it makes sense for a man to have preferences that match characteristics of women of his own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 07:11 PM
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Nah its mostly biological. Media has a weak influence on men nowadays when it comes to body preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 06:12 PM
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Just cause someone is of similar physical attractiveness to you, doesn’t mean they like you That concept mostly applies to women. Your average man is attracted to your average woman, the same isn’t true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 04:08 PM
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If he had several cheerleaders who wanted to be with him he was likely more attractive than you thought he was. Hell he might not be your “looksmatch” unless you also had attractive men who were also crushing on you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 01:44 PM
1

No, just because it isn’t the only important quality doesn’t mean it’s not important. Just like how having a vagina isn’t the only requirement men have for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 09:06 PM
1

Having a functioning cock is not the only requirement women have for men, there are many other requirements (income, social skills, height, race, face, sense of humor, etc) women have for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:25 PM
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That’s besides the point because women still value sex greatly. Ask any group of women “Would you date a man who has no sex drive whatsoever?” and you’ll see sex is very important to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 07:12 PM
2

Sex is not important to women I know from first hand experience that’s not true. I’ve been in several relationships with women and I know for a fact if I didn’t have a penis they wouldn’t have dated me to begin with. Women are not asexuals, sex IS important to them and to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:53 PM
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I don’t know why you’re hurling insults and taking it personally instead of coming up with a decent rebuttal but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:42 PM
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Dating for women is a walk in the park compared to what men have to deal with. Not to say dating is great for women but the problems men deal with are on a completely different level to what women deal with in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:29 PM
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If 20-30% of farms experienced yearly droughts I would be concerned for our food supply
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:52 PM
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