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DebateWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:57 PM
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DebateWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:21 AM
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Inner Game WoodenHuckleberry693/r/seduction18/11/25 12:35 PM
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Inner Game WoodenHuckleberry693/r/seduction23/11/25 01:02 AM
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DebateWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:31 PM
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DebateWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:16 AM
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Inner Game WoodenHuckleberry693/r/seduction18/11/25 10:53 AM
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DebateWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:29 AM
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LogisticsWoodenHuckleberry693/r/seduction22/11/25 08:20 AM
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DiscussionWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:20 PM
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Outer Game WoodenHuckleberry693/r/seduction18/11/25 11:18 PM
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Question For WomenWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:52 AM
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Fundamentals WoodenHuckleberry693/r/seduction19/11/25 09:09 PM
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DebateWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 01:56 AM
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DebateWoodenHuckleberry693/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:17 AM
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If a guy or girl is below average on dating apps/pics then theyll most likely be average in person.. at best. Its funny you think these people go from ugly weird creep to suddenly turn into giga chad or giga stacy in person. Seems like youre one of the guys who dont do well on apps/pics and are projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:59 PM
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Bro what. All women are instagram and get validation from that. Online validation is far from just dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:48 PM
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Hes saying their in person behavior and standards would quickly change if you removed the online validation. I think thats the core issue. If you took that away, theyd be far less likely to shrug off the in person validation, it would be worth more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:37 PM
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So what are cheat codes to be "good" enlighten us
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:54 PM
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Thst doesnt make sense. If a person is socially inept, dating apps arent gonna help at all. They will fail on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:44 AM
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Most ppl dont have a long list of attractive suitable coworkers who like them back. Very small pool for 99%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:41 AM
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Its actually 1000s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:48 PM
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Where exactly you meeting these "hogher quality irl women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:47 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 10:10 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:29 AM
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Its going great. I have 1000s of likes and get dates lined up whenever. I like being single and meeting new girls. My pics arent anything special and im not a model. If youre a guy who struggles online its almost a guarantee youll be struggling in person too becuase it takes social awareness to put together a decent profile
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:57 AM
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The highest quality/hottest women use their social circle PLUS vet guys on dating apps/IG these days.. then they agree to a 1v1 date with select way. I have confirm this first hand as I have model tier women sending me roses/superlikes on hinge daily
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:54 AM
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I dont think anyone disagrees with any of that. But you went on a tangent and none of that is related to the op. The ROI for men will be better on apps than in person for the average joe. Obviously you cant be desperate for either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:49 AM
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That doesn't make much sense to me. Why would a decent man with options intentionally shrink his dating pool from thousands of women online to a tiny amount just becuase they have a mutual friend or go to the same gym, or sports club, etc.. then spend months building friendships hoping one of them eventually develops feelings. I hate to say it but i cringe even typing that out thinking thats a viable or logical way to date and find the best partner Not trying to be rude but do you see how this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:45 AM
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Very legit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:36 AM
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For sure. But the majority are genuinely there to hangout with friends whereas the majority of guys are there to get laid. In the past before apps, it was totally differen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:30 AM
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From chatgpt "There isn't a definitive nationwide 2026 percentage yet, but based on the latest available data, researchers generally place it at roughly 50–60%, with online remaining the single most common way couples meet. �" But yeah after doing more research its not definitive. It may closer to like 40-50% but still pretty high regardless and increasing is the point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:27 AM
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This is true but my only disagreement is youre overestimating those "other qualities". The roi for "in person cold approaching" is gonna end up being the same or worse for the average guy than the online.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:24 AM
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Bro what. If you chat with someone from an app then meet them at bar for 1v1 date how is that 'scary"? Your logic seems a little off. Also most guys don't have the time to sit around being friends for weeks with different women in hopes of dating them in the future. Talk about scary and weird. I honestly cant fathom how you think that would be a viable dating strategy for anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:21 AM
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Actually most couples meet online as of 2021. Its like 61% now who meet online according to alot of stats. Also the rejection rate for most guys will be worse or at best equal to whatever they experience online. That was kinda my point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:17 AM
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Yep exactly my point. Rejection rate IRL is higher or jsut as bad as online for the average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:16 AM
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Its pretty obvious to anyone with an IQ above 80 that that was a typo and I meant 50
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:15 AM
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Agree. Ideally you want to do both. But ultimately the online will be better roi
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:13 AM
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Most guys who struggle on these apps dont have these rare amazing pickup skills lol. Thats my whole point dude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:13 AM
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Wtf are you talking about thats a varifiable stat from google. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:11 AM
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For sure but the chances a guy has an extraordinary personality enough to catch your attention and pick you up and take you home is lower than the chances he can secure a 1v1 date off the app. That's kinda my whole point. Those personality skills are very rare
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:10 AM
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Shes still weighing you against the matches she has online and all the other guys she meeting throughout the course of that night. Also strongly disagree girls in person are hotter than online. Hot girls don't really get wasted and hit dive bars these days to meet guys, they do it tonhabe fun with their friends. Were moving away from all that noise and towards a world where pick froma curated list of guys to vet and potentially go out on 1v1 dates with aka through IG and dating apps. Check your …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:06 AM
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Lol I wish we had stats on the amount of western men who have already done this. Im guessing its in the 10s of millions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:03 AM
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According to google. Try it sometime. "There isn't a definitive nationwide 2026 percentage yet, but based on the latest available data, researchers generally place it at roughly 50–60%, with online remaining the single most common way couples meet"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:01 AM
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Pua forums 💀💀 Tricking women with cringy manipulation tactics and negs isnt gonna make you attractive dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:57 AM
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The only viable solution for many of these guys (thr ones who are fully well rounded but still cant girls) i think is to change locations or settle for girls they arent particularly attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:56 AM
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Alot more people work remote these days and onlirn dsting relationships have skyrocketed since covid. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:52 AM
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Explain how a guy who gets zero interest from girls on dating apps will start pulling girls in person at bars, sports clubs, etc Lets hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:50 AM
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They are putting your profile deep in the deck due to you getting too many left swipes. My point is that same thing irl too.. Youre conflating a baseline attraction problem with a visibility problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:46 AM
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What are my fears exactly? Youre talking out of your ass to try and sound smart lol. Anyhow, yes some guys can bypass the superficial filters. Some guys can buy a lotto scratcher from the gas station and win $200. Were talking aboit the majority here. My point is the majority of average guys who struggle on the apps won't be able to bypass those "superficial" filters aka baseline attraction becuase women have such high degree of abundance in this current dating market. They wont have to forgo th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:44 AM
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Your post is incorrect. For the average guy, the ROI with online dating will be far greater than what they would achieve in person.. This isn't the 1950s anymore. Most people work remote. Most relationships used to start at eork so that declined while online relationships skyrockets according to the data. Humans use instagram and dating apps and have access to other humans far out of their small inner circle that wasnt even possible 5p years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:39 AM
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That same logic would apply to women then too. The fact you used "women" instead of people tells us all we need to know. You love attacking men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:39 PM
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Not the point i was making is the ugly/average guy is more likely to want to settle down and eager to lock down a girl since he has no other options. How can you dispute that. You think the average ugly bald short guy is running around trying to be a player pumping and dumping girls left and right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:37 PM
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Its an important one to ask
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:22 PM
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What apps are these from? Tinder probably heavily skewed the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:22 PM
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And what if a guy is hot and has everything together in his life but is only 5'10. Are you telling me thats a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:18 PM
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"Majority of men on apps arent serious and just want hookups" Do you not realize men do the same thing IRL? Im so confused by your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:12 PM
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How unattractive are you exactly? Are you overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:58 PM
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There you go with misandry stereotyping all men again. I bet youd be the very first to complain and rage if I said "all women are like this" "all women use men" blah blah. Such a negative mindset filled with baggage. I guarantee that misandry bleeds into your interactions with men. No normal guy would want to commit to a woman who behaves and thinks like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:55 PM
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Lol I was just thinking this. Out of the 2000 likes, a good percent should meet that description
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:51 PM
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The guy above tried saying avergae men in relationships still often pursue hookups. Thats called cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:43 AM
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Can you elaborate on what you are looking for when you say compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:00 AM
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Could be, although men cheating would be a seperate issue than whats being discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:55 AM
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Its not that they are more noble. Theres definitely a correlation between your looks/status and how much you pursue causal hookups. The rest of what you said is in the op and doesn't address the core title of the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:46 AM
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And whats your theory for why that is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:00 AM
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What does doing your due diligence about long term commitment have to do with negative attachment syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 10:16 PM
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Yeah there’s a difference between being with a guy that’s great but won’t commit, and being content being single. Even if they met a guy that ticked every box, they don’t want to get married straight away. You said in your post men are the ones who arent wanting to commit as much, now you are changing it? A stronger better connection with someone else? That’s called the grass is greener. Not really. Its called evaluating the options on the table. And actually it can, women are at their peek fert…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:08 PM
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Nah they just pickier than previous generations
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:53 PM
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Confirm? People lose interest over time.. Yeah thats a problem and i think women of guilty of continuing to date while keeping their options open more than men though simply due tk the fact most men dont have viable options to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 12:02 PM
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Looking at the waiting to wed subs, it’s majority women waiting on guys. Really? Bechase I hear women boasting all the time on this sub about how happy they are being single in their 30s and how they dont care to commit unless every single green falg has been checked. It is subjective but there’s nobody who knows them better as a partner than you, so what more are you waiting for. They are holding off for a stronger/better connection Men can search all the want, but nobody wants an old sperm don…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:53 AM
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Chances are they just aren't feeling it. They arent indecisive, they just know they dont want to commit to you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:46 AM
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Becuase a "Great guy or girl" is extremely subjective unless youre going by paper metrics. Not sure why you made this a male issue? Id argue just as many women are reluctant to commit and prefer to keep their options open too and extending being single into their 30s by choice, no? Id also argue its a better and more viable strategy for men to continue the search until they are absolutely certain given the biological time constraints.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:38 AM
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Making the biggest decision of your life should take time. I dont think about not trusting yourself as much as its doing your due diligence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:32 AM
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And not a single mention or pic of what they look like. Banging overweight women isnt impressive or attractive
/r/seduction24/03/26 10:11 AM
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You do realize you cant logic your way into attraction. A young 20 something year old makes men feel happy the same way a tall attractive guy just makes women 'feel happy'. Its not that complicated or deep
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:06 AM
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Shes coping. Women love to cope and pretend they will be one of the few 40 year old who can realistically pass for 25. Its a pipe dream because they know deep down the youthful appearance of 20yo is something men of ALL ages biologically crave and something they cant compete with. They then try to shame and manipulate men into feeling guilty (which obviously doesnt work on strong men). Strong men and women dont allow themselves to get societally shamed into compliance
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:04 AM
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Alot of older women, especially in today's society are emotionally/mentally damaged beyond repair. Also No women in her looks 20.. thats female cope and 1 in 1000. Everyone (men and women) can look at someone and usually tell what decade they are in. A 40yo looks weathered next to a 20yo 99% of the time. A younger woman with a youthful 20s glow provides a level of happiness that women cant fathom. Its not surprise a guy with options would pick an objectively more attractive girl with perfect you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 11:01 AM
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No one said not to socialize. Nice strawman. attacking an argument i never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:31 PM
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Its not that tough to get 1000s of likes if youre halfway decent looking and not autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:04 AM
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Again for the 10th time. No ones arguing against that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:30 AM
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No ones denying any of that...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:07 AM
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For what
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:05 AM
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Somewhere in California
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:05 AM
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How much were you paying to play pickeball back in the day? Where i live it costs $40/hr to reserve a court and you need people to play with
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:32 PM
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US. Big city
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:31 PM
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Excellent. Have 1000s of likes but im seeing someone cool
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:08 PM
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You can argue gym is a chore though. Same as you brushing your teeth or doing dishes. I dont like the gym but I go since its highly beneficial for your health
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:08 PM
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What are some fun coed hobbies you engage in that youd reccomend to young men? Im all ears
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:06 PM
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Fun is extremely subjective and will have a different definition for every woman/man. Theres no objective basis for determining this or "improving". Your personality and "fun factor" is dependant on the observer. Most guys who are not on the tism spectrum quickly figure out you need to engage women and take an interest in their life to be viewed as attractive. That hardly differentiates you in any capacity. Partially true on the last paragraph although the game and dating landscape has changed d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:05 PM
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Fun and curious is low on the list of things that make the average guy attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:26 PM
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Clearly you dont becuase you just created one. You do realize there's is a wide variety of night life venues, many of which dont include raunchy dark nightclubs right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:25 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:02 PM
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😂😂😂. Hilariously true for most hobbies yoga included. Pottery is kinda cool though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:00 PM
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Most people arent playing matchmaker like that for the average guy who can't even get a match online. Thats the point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:59 PM
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Good analogy although I dont think thats accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:34 PM
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Lol. Meant to say 140 million. In usa
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:30 PM
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Cooking and music are two good ones I'll give you that. Im big on both. sports event can be great if you have that in your city agree there. I play piano and guitar but most women could care less. Personally I still do very well with regards to dating but the connections I've had are rarely about hobbies and more about chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:28 PM
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Well the roi will be much higher while passport maxxing in terms of dating than joining a chess club As a married passport bro, what are some of your unique hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:24 PM
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Yeah its location dependant. I agree house parties can be very fruitful in some areas depending on the city. In my city for instance, everyone under 45 lives in an apartment and there's not really more than 10 people at anyone's house party
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:22 PM
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Tell us about your extensive hobby list that you connect with women over
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:15 PM
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Bro for 10th time. Low ROI in regards to dating for most people. I clarified this in the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:14 PM
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Lol ya. But again bro its still low volume even in those cases. Not the best place to meet
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:13 PM
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You just created a strawman argument. When did I ever once mention "dark and extremely loud nightclubs" lol You do realize there's a large medium of night life venues that include classy nicely lit bars/venues with swaths of attractive people... and yes those are going to be far better for dating options than your local chess club or other day time hobby group that most of reddit encourages people to meet each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:10 PM
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First of all I have a pretty good thing going with a girl i met on the apps and have a good group of friends so lets not make this personal. I also do quite well on the apps and have no problem attracting girls irl. Regardless im talking about average guy/men in general. My hobbies are pretty standard sure. Can you tell us about your extensive list of hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:06 PM
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We're talking about ROI with regards to dating.. not making friends. Lets not twist the original argument
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:02 PM
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9 relationships or 9 meaningless hookups? Cus I can get the latter on dating apps 7 days a week
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:02 PM
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Lol what. Most bars/night life venue have far better ratios and ROIs than nearly all social clubs and its not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:01 PM
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That doesnt negate my point about hobbies/social clubs being low ROI/low volume environments for meeting people (for both men and women) You can have extensive list of hobbies and meet people elsewhere.. no ones arguing against having hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:59 PM
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Pretty decent but most my friends live in apartments. I live in a big city and parties just arent allowed. Nearly everyone goes out to bars/venues to socialize which jinda changes the dynamic. I agree though house parties can actually be effective. In my earlier years I went to many and did get alot of dates from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:56 PM
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Yeah i never disagreed with that if you read the op
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:53 PM
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Dating apps are highest roi indefinitely but yeah mastering cold approach is probably the second best id say
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:53 PM
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Yeah for sure but you dont need a big group of acquaintances to go out and social you can do it alone and make friends in the process But for the average guy, the volume and ROI still wont be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:52 PM
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The use of the word "if" doesnt negate any argument ive made. Your original comment implied I didn't think social groups/socializing in general is beneficial, which was never stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:50 PM
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Thats a pipe dream. Dating marketplace has changed and its just a matter of adapting and finding thr most effective strategies to be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:49 PM
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So like 1 or 2. Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:48 PM
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Yeah our society is very quick paced though, most people (men and women) dont give relationships time to flourish like they used to. One small ick and its on the to the next. Thats just the nature of the current dating landscape
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:45 PM
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Its obviously good for alot of reasons but again it's not an effective strategy for dating for thr avergae guy. I personally habe a pretty robust social circle and have met some great people but house parties are definitely less common than they used to be. Not a viable pipeline for your average joe
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:43 PM
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Dude you missed the whole point. I agreed in the op that socializing (clubs, circles, etc) is obviously good and healthy. The point is that its not a viable pipeline for dating for the average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:41 PM
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Im.tlaking about social clubs/social circles. Also a very small amount of people have the luxury of making travel a regular hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:36 PM
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Yes thats my argument. You just changed your argument instead of owning up to the fact you didnt originally read the op Calling something "dumb" and having no argument to back up your POV means you are the dumb one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:33 PM
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most women arent doing the same hobbies as men. I can almost guarantee most hobbies wont intersect in a relationship and even then its not the glue that holds the relationship together. Its far less important
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:22 PM
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You just made a strawman. When did anyone say clubbing should you main hobby or a hobby at all. You can talk about friends, family, traveling, a million other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:21 PM
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You ignored the part where i stated social groups are still beneficial for other reasons. Maybe learn to read before running your mouth
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:19 PM
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Yeah. Its much better simply due to the higher volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:11 PM
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Theres 400 million men. This isnt the 1920s where every guy can have a skill that excels thousand of other guys. Even in that case, low chance that will even increase attraction from any woman lol Let's try and be realistic here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:11 PM
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Yeah thats a seperate issue. You can def make some good friends with groups but trying to use it as primary dating funnel? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:10 PM
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35-50% of all relationships is not an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:00 AM
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About 35-50% of couples met online in the usa the past 2 years. Google it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:55 AM
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Excellent point. In reality in person bars/clubs only beneficial if you can mog others around you which 95% cant. Its a known rule that you can't appear with people taller or better looking than in dating app pics. Why would it be any different in person? In person only benefits tall or kinda ugly/average guys or guys with top 1% humor/rizz. Online dating benefits everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:17 AM
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True but that model exists and isnt going anywhere. Its changed the landscape permanently and we have to adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:10 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:09 AM
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This is such a dumb comment and cope Youre single becuase you cant secure commitment from a girl youre attracted to and tell yourself this lie to cope and continuously engage in meaningless hookups. Plus I bet most the girls youve been with (if that part is even true) are like 4 or 5s at best. You are the quintessential redpiller
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:09 AM
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You can get all those replies from a dude you met at the bar too...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:45 AM
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That’s not proof it’s “rigged,” it’s proof it’s ranked. Every platform uses engagement-based ranking. TikTok, Instagram, LinkedIn, Amazon. Showing everyone the full catalog would destroy usability. Filtering by likelihood of mutual interest is optimization, not manipulation. If apps show you to people with “similar demand levels,” that’s not suppressing you, that’s preventing massive mismatch (e.g., profiles with 10,000 likes being spammed by everyone). It’s efficiency. Also, “they try to minimi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:43 AM
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No ones forcing you to swipe bro. Take responsibility for your inability to cut your loses and commit to one person. Thays a you problem, not the app
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:36 AM
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So untrue. Theres no way for apps to know someone is a casual dster or just has high standards and takes longer to find "the one".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:34 AM
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You could make the same argument for why online dating works. Youre able to meet people you wouldnt have otherwise. You could meet your future husband just as easily from the apps as you could from some bar or club or in person event.. Id even argue online dating lets you know more about someone thus increasing attraction. Im able to show off my cool lifestyle in my pics whereas in person I wouldn't have that ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:30 AM
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Thays an internal issue of your standards being too high and not wanting to commit to one of those fwbs. Youre treating it like a casino always wanting more. Im guilty of it too but I can recognize whats actually going on. Not an app issue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:19 AM
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Oh yeah two different skill sets. Although id argue the young generation doesnt feel the need to take the risk given the popularity of dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:13 AM
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This doesnt make sense. They arent two separate things Online dating just helps you connect with more people in person and screen them first. Its a filter, not an alternative way of meeting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:56 AM
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Right that isn't that common anymore. Also the ROI is poor compared to online dating apps. Chances of you meeting a quality partner at work is far lower than on an app just by the sheer metric of volume
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:36 AM
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I worked at a bar/nightlife venue years. People just as quickly and harshly in night life venues as they do online. The only benefit is you have more chances to shoot your shot as a guy that yoh wouldnt have had otherwise although most guys will still get rejected regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:35 AM
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Yea its important too. You can use dating apps to talk to women and improve your social skills as a byproduct of online dating. Not sure what your point is exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:33 AM
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No they dont. I worked at a bar/nightlife venue for years. People judge just as quick in person as they do on the apps. The only exception is if you work with someone for extended periods of time but that is becoming less and less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:31 AM
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Women have this weird thing where they feel stigmatized talking to a stranger on an app before meeting them in person
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:30 AM
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That question is illogical. Dating apps are a quick initial vessel to meet people in real life. There arent two seperate things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:26 AM
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Right. They have to becuase of the ratio imbalances. Its not rational or logical to think everyone can get equal ad space. You need to be a popular user or pay. Obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:24 AM
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You’re holding dating apps to a standard they were never designed to meet. They’re tools for meeting people.. not state-run institutions tasked with optimizing national monogamy rates. Marriage rates were declining before apps went mainstream. Urbanization, delayed careers, female economic independence, housing costs. those are macro forces. Blaming apps is lazy causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:08 AM
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Horrible analogy. Casinos fix probabilities and you are playing against them. Dating apps: Don’t control your photos Don’t control your physical attractiveness Don’t control your messaging ability Don’t control supply/demand ratios They surface profiles. The marketplace (users) decides. If outcomes are uneven, that’s more like a job market than a casino. Some resumes get flooded. Some don’t. That doesn’t mean LinkedIn is “rigged.”. A proper analogy would be online dating is like a nightclub with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:05 AM
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Yeah. Thats how dating works... People want to date/get to know people they are attracted to... big surprise!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:01 AM
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You picked two extreme scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:45 AM
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Very well said. This should be made into a seperete post
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:44 AM
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All black? Why is that? Are you typically attracted to men with darker features (hair eyes, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:42 AM
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All true. I think were at a weird point is society where we are transitioning away from antiquated norms for the sake of appearing proper (ex nice watch) I think it's for the best however there will always be some people out there that connect a nice watch with sophistication
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:49 AM
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Just to clarify, I implied her lack of critical thinking stemmed from her not totally understanding why I asked the question and insinuating I was 'overthinking'. Anyhow, the bigger question is whether a traditional watch is viewed as an attractive accessory as it was 50 years ago. I guess I could have worded the op differently but yeah youre right. The majority of women dont seem to care at all aka doesnt elevate attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:20 AM
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Lol. Would you wear your apple watch to a first date and what do you think about guys who do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:15 AM
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where is the line? Is it just the rubber strap that kills it, or is the whole 'tech-on-the-wrist' look just inherently un-stylish to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:13 AM
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No offense taken and I hear you! Would you also say clothing/style has little affect for you on how attractive a man is? If a nice shirt/outfit can elevate a man's perceived attractiveness on a first date, why couldnt a nice watch have a similar effect? (I mean this question genuinely)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:11 AM
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I've heard some women say smart watch can "ruin" an outfit or be seen as less sophisticated/too obsessed with tech. Ive heard others say they like it as they view it as a guy who interested in their health/improvement. Its split about 50/50 so its an interesting topic of discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:06 AM
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Nothing wrong with you not considering it however you trying to tell me im "overthinking" it tells me you arent a critcal thinker. You assume my curiosity stems from insecurity or something when in reality its simple a fun question to get opinions on. the bigger question is if modern women still find traditional watches to be an elegant and sophisticated accessory for a guy to wear in 2026 or if this is becoming an antiquated flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:04 AM
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Excellent post and very insightful. A huge number of women talk about "hard rules" and values around sex, but change their tune very quickly when strong attraction is present. Its is exactly why so many men stopped believing their lies and figured out that delayed sex = lower attraction. Once boundaries are situational, they’re not boundaries anymore, they’re filters.. Women know it too and its a big lie they perpetuate to the decreasing number of blue pill men fall for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:17 PM
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This isnt even true. Theres plenty of normal weight dudes interested in relationships with girls their age. Probably more than their female counterpart How do you define "ugly'. Unless you have an way to actually define this, you could just label anyone as ugly and immediately write them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:00 PM
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Unsuitable suitors? Lol no. Most these women complaining are gonna end up childless and miserable becuase they are egotistical, big headed and delusional about their market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:51 PM
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Its too competitve for younger guys now. I slay girls yoru age and most of them are dating guys late 20s early 30s and getting all kinds of free stuff from simps on top of it. Most halfway decent women on apps get 2000+ likes the first week, out of that they'll agree to a handful of dates, and out of that they narrow it down to 3-5 guy rotation. Focus on your finances for a few years first
/r/seduction26/11/25 03:36 AM
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Its a problem dude. Youll need an Asian or a girl who is okay with small guys
/r/seduction26/11/25 01:08 AM
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Interesting. Whats your game style like?
/r/seduction25/11/25 03:46 AM
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Or because they have self respect for their body
/r/seduction24/11/25 12:16 PM
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Agreed. If you feel like you need a condom you probably shouldn't be with her. Girls who are heavily into health and fitness and testing biomarkers is who I usually go for
/r/seduction24/11/25 11:41 AM
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It depends on the quality of girl. If you want to attract slim conventionally attractive women, you need to be in the same ball park look wise. Tons of average guys can attract average girls (which in 2025 means obese since the average women is literally obese) Exceptions can occur if youre in close proximity with a girl for extended periods of time where your personality can shine over extended periods of time (work, social clubs, etc)
/r/seduction24/11/25 11:02 AM
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What city are you in? I found my results/quality of girls on dating apps to be drastically different depending on the city. I travel every other week for work so ive used dating apps consistently in like 20 different cities for the past 6 years straight. Were talking 150 likes a day vs 20 depending on the city. Ive meet and been with well over 200 girls off the apps alone. My strategy is very simple, get them to meet up with me. If you have a specific question happy to answer If youre witty in p…
/r/seduction24/11/25 09:24 AM
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You realize even if you meet girls through dating apps, you ultimately still have to rely on your mouth to get laid, right.
/r/seduction24/11/25 08:48 AM
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Youre oblivious to how many ppl slide in each others dms and set up dates. As a guy with a pretty good profile, I get a girl almost every day dming me and the average hot girl has 20x that
/r/seduction24/11/25 07:33 AM
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You can't switch on an off her attraction triggers unless you meet the physical looks threshold, which overwhelming majority of men dont.
/r/seduction24/11/25 07:20 AM
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Wrong. Most single girls under 30 are on apps and when you factor in Instagram its more than 70%.
/r/seduction24/11/25 07:15 AM
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No, not enough volume at clubs. Most hot girls dont have coed hobbies
/r/seduction24/11/25 05:26 AM
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If youre not autistic, its not that hard to sus out the fake ig accounts from the real
/r/seduction24/11/25 05:15 AM
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If instagram just had an official dating app it would solve everything. You could vet social status/social life, etc and sus out weirdos/deepfakers
/r/seduction24/11/25 05:04 AM
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Which app
/r/seduction24/11/25 04:48 AM
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Id only believe the guys who actually live stream approaches are legit. The rest suck
/r/seduction24/11/25 02:22 AM
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Horrible analogy
/r/seduction23/11/25 11:17 PM
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Bare minimum. Its like saying speaking English matters to American girls
/r/seduction23/11/25 12:50 PM
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No it means you need to max out the other big 3 traits
/r/seduction23/11/25 11:49 AM
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Don't be a woman living in denial of reality. its helpful to be aware of all this and improve what you can.
/r/seduction23/11/25 11:48 AM
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Comment here if you actually picked up and closed a girl on halloween. I met a girl online who invited me to a Halloween party and closed her that night
/r/seduction23/11/25 10:10 AM
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Brah if a makeout is the furthest you've got, I wouldnt be bragging about thay
/r/seduction23/11/25 05:05 AM
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What did girl 5 look like? Whats your height and appearance/10?
/r/seduction23/11/25 01:52 AM
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Nice. What's city habe you had the best results in your opinion?
/r/seduction22/11/25 10:59 PM
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What city
/r/seduction22/11/25 07:57 PM
1

When was your last day game lay. Tell us about it
/r/seduction22/11/25 11:56 AM
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True. Although im guessing most here aren't doing either. No one posts infield or stories. Its all dorky theories
/r/seduction22/11/25 11:43 AM
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Yep that makes more sense. You got redditors in here claiming 1 in 5 lmaoo. Crazy how many people are compulsive liars
/r/seduction22/11/25 11:28 AM
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Bro even in a giant city like Houston or Dallas, its still very tough to have true abundance
/r/seduction22/11/25 08:17 AM
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Both
/r/seduction21/11/25 05:07 AM
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Yea thats why I got recruited to be on love island and the lead star of the bachelor.. lol ok bro whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/seduction21/11/25 01:44 AM
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Totally wrong dude. Havent swiped in years. I have 1000s of girls who liked my profile already and swipe from that pool when I want a date. Already have a 4 girl rotation though so barely have enough time to use the apps rlly
/r/seduction21/11/25 12:25 AM
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Another bizarre cope concocted by another unsuccessful and frustrated guy
/r/seduction20/11/25 11:35 PM
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Your theory is a bizarre cope you and other unsuccessful guys have manufactured in your heads. Attractive men use apps to date, sleep with, and even build relationships with high-quality women all the time. I have many freinds(men and women) who are in great/successful relationships with high quality people theyve met from online Saying 'apps are just for smashing hoes' is another cope layered on top.. guys say that when they can't perform on them.
/r/seduction20/11/25 11:31 PM
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Okay, fair. But can you point to a single real in-field example of an overweight or unattractive guy who consistently succeeds purely through charisma. I'd like to see it, because I'm pretty skeptical those guys exist in any meaningful number.
/r/seduction20/11/25 08:09 PM
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Anpther low iq confirmed. Never said you couldn't. The point is that online is better ROI. Work on your reading comprehension.
/r/seduction20/11/25 07:42 PM
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It absolutely is
/r/seduction20/11/25 07:41 PM
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I guarantee I pull more than you on person and obviously online. Zero chance you're pulling "60% of the time". Not even close.
/r/seduction19/11/25 10:52 PM
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The city youre in makes a big difference in quality and results
/r/seduction19/11/25 10:29 PM
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Legit. What city was this?
/r/seduction19/11/25 09:45 PM
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Seeing an average guy with a hot girl doesn't mean average men secretly dominate IRL, it just means you're mistaking outliers for a pattern.
/r/seduction19/11/25 09:38 PM
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Nope. Not a zoomer just high iq
/r/seduction19/11/25 09:30 PM
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Shameless? Lol you have no clue what attracts women and it's painfully obvious Confidence is the starter pack, not the strategy. If that were enough, every loud guy with zero self-awareness would be drowning in women. Some of you really can't tell the difference between charisma and running on NPC difficulty
/r/seduction19/11/25 09:29 PM
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Low iq confirmed. You're a hypersensitive little baby responding emotionally, not intellectually. Anyhow, best you leave the online game to people who have the competence to navigate it and get success. Better for all of us.
/r/seduction19/11/25 09:25 PM
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Vibing doesnt mean anything. Its about instant chemistry
/r/seduction19/11/25 08:59 PM
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Iy really depends on location. What city are you in?
/r/seduction19/11/25 06:42 PM
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Boomers will always try to argue the latter is "better". Same thing happening here. The old ugly guys have to cope somehow
/r/seduction19/11/25 05:25 AM
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Vibe is a word women use to explain what they dont understand. Curious what exactly your criteria for "in person" vibe. Having good tonailty and not having awkward posture are easy to do if youre not autistic and doesnt mean you have some amazing presence in person. Aside from looks and a few mannerisms what else
/r/seduction19/11/25 02:39 AM
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Of course not we have to go out for a few months first obviously I just meant im open to it, noy necessarily this second
/r/seduction19/11/25 02:37 AM
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1000s of times. Im mid 30s I live in a busy city with active night life. Day game not as much but still a fair share
/r/seduction19/11/25 02:16 AM
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How old are you? Younger girls view things differently
/r/seduction19/11/25 01:36 AM
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I dont believe for a second youre pulling high quality babes in person but can't figure it out online. No chance. Youre probably getting mid or more likely below mid from in person cold approach
/r/seduction19/11/25 01:22 AM
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You have to wear lifts so they think youre only frauding by 1-1.5 inches which is to be expected. If they ask i just tell them OK im actually 6.. you got me. Never once been an issue. With my lifts im basically 6'0
/r/seduction19/11/25 01:20 AM
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Yeah, Miami is competitive, I get that. For me, I'm 5'10 but list 6'1 on apps to avoid getting filtered out. Then on dates I wear 2-inch lifts. Online, women see the best version of me - strong beach photos, great physique, good lighting, lifestyle shots, cooking, travel, solid texting. By the time we meet, the interest is already there. Cold approach is the opposite. They don't see ANY of that upfront! I'm just another 5'10 guy on the street, and I barely get a second glance. That's exactly why…
/r/seduction19/11/25 01:12 AM
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Majority of single young women (50%+) are ABSOLUTELY on on Instagram, Snapchat, hinge or other social media/dating platform. Yes women meet guys off IG and snap too all the time. Youre naive and just flat out wrong if you believe otherwise
/r/seduction19/11/25 01:06 AM
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Yep i hear you man. Both have their dilemmas. Im a high success online guy (im considered a "top pick" on every app and even i feel it too. Let me ask, what city are you in? Location has alot to do with this
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:59 AM
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I get your point about in-person giving you tone, vibe, confidence, etc. But that doesn't contradict anything I'm saying. it just highlights that online is a presentation skill. Some guys can bait a girl in with strong photos, good framing, and a clean profile. It's EXTREMELY rare for a guy to genuinely have amazing in-person presence but somehow be completely incapable of showing even 10% of that online. That's not a real phenomenon and most guys delude themselves into thinking they have this a…
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:56 AM
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Um lets see... your photos, your lifestyle presentation, your prompts, your tone, your pacing, your texting wit, your boundaries, and how quickly you move things off app... this all communicate a super solid frame before you ever meet. Ive banged well over 100 hot girls and have dates lined up every weekend with minimal ease with girls that are extremely invested from the get go. I have NONE of that when cold approaching. Feel like a used car salesman. That's why online works: she gets a curated…
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:49 AM
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"no one I know who cold approaches prefers online" that part is just survivorship bias.. Of course people who are good at cold approach prefer cold approach. people gravitate to what they're already good at. But that doesn't make it more efficient. Realistically: Cold approach = high skill, high effort, low scale Online = low effort, scalable, leverage-based In one hour online, I can line up 5-10 dates with ~80% close/hookup rate. One hour of cold approach? I walk away with a couple numbers from…
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:44 AM
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We're in agreement. You should ideally be doing both but my entire point is just that online is waaay better ROI in 2025 and it's not even close. Also it's an upward trend
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:33 AM
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True, not all women are on dating apps but the ones who aren't still behave like they are. Their standards are still shaped by the constant validation and options they get from IG, TikTok, Snapchat, social circles, nightlife, and DMs. The behavioral effect is the same: abundance = pickiness. So even meeting her IRL doesn't remove you from competing with her full option pool. Also IRL has way harsher filters: your vibe has to hit instantly she sees your height in real time she makes a judgment be…
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:31 AM
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You're kinda proving my point here Cold approach only feels 'important' to you because your online presence isn't cultivated. If your photos, style, and digital presentation are weak, then of course you're relegated to IRL cold approach only, because you can't compete where everyone else is. If you don't stand out online, you're not suddenly a different man when you walk up to her. You're bringing the same weaknesses into a harder environment where you get one shot and zero context. Cold approac…
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:25 AM
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He just has alot of confidence mainly due to the fact he os vwry self aware that overwhelming majority of women immediate find him. This in turn feeds your confidence, ive luckily reached a similar stage now. Anyhow dont get caught in the trap of thinking a number is a success. Its pretty easy to go out and collect dozens of numbers each day. The only thing that matters is if youre getting dates set up.
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:19 AM
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Sure but i think you’re over-romanticizing irl cold approaches. Her online options don’t disappear just because you approach her, they shape her standards everywhere. If anything, IRL is harder: you get 10 seconds to impress instead of a full profile showing lifestyle, status, and personality and the time investment of an actual date which you get with online. College girls date other students because of proximity and social proof, not because cold approach magically works better. And girls don’…
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:15 AM
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I meant a specific example of how an opening conversation would go, I didn't mean scripted rehearsed pick up lines..
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:07 AM
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Yeah man anyone with common sense can understand why online just has a way better ROI than walk around cold approaching. Cold approaching may be more fun and primal but def a worse ROI than just social media/dating apps
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:05 AM
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Your strategy doesn't even make sense. Why would you intentionally shrink your dating pool and limit your options for no reason? This idea that 'real women don't use dating apps' is just a story you're telling yourself to avoid getting better at usir the tools that actually work in today's market. I've met plenty of high-quality women from apps, m they're not rare, and they're not imaginary. Yes, ideally you do both: online and in-person. But for most guys, online has a much better ROI because i…
/r/seduction19/11/25 12:04 AM
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You missed the point. The "effort" isnt what creates attraction. Wit, humor and sexual tension do this
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:58 PM
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You need to be creative and witty, this is part of game man. Watch Steven shapiro on YouTube for what it looks like
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:56 PM
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Openers make or break it. 'You're pretty, I had to meet you' may get you a pity number (still better than the awkward opener op used). Although a clever, teasing, in-the-moment opener is what actually gets her interested and is your best bet
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:52 PM
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This
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:47 PM
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Partially true but avoiding the problem doesnt make it disappear.
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:43 PM
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It is, and a bad one at that. This "coach" didn't say what he told his student to say as the opener either
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:40 PM
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Nice job on approaching her but your game needs major major improvement if you want success in the cold approach world with hot girls. Chances are she has no boyfriend "Its cold here isnt it" is about the most milk toast beta opener you could have said. You need to spark attraction and build sexual chemistry before going for a number close. Having these beta friendly conversations and asking her to "be your friend" will never get you dating success
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:37 PM
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Yea you get an extra 10 seconds of her time.. not that big of a deal
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:30 PM
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Youre a dork bud
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:25 PM
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Nope.
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:21 PM
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Yeah. You have no rebuttal cus you know you're wrong. Keep living in denial tho. For every 1 date or hookup you get through cold approach ill have done 10.
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:20 PM
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Touch grass? I live in Austin texas and go out every single weekend. I've banged 100+ girls and have receipts pal. I also have 1000s of matches on dating apps yes the overwhelming majority of single women are on hinge or Instagram. Thats a fact
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:12 PM
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What exactly have you said or done thats been effective? He is basically just trolling them and it's pretty obvious it's for content tho
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:10 PM
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See my above post as to why thats cope
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:05 PM
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That's such cope. Meeting her in person doesn't erase her option stack. Her Tinder, IG DMs, and dating apps don't vanish because you walked up to her. She's still filtering you against the same insane supply of guys she has everywhere else. Women today don't operate on 'who approaches me.' They operate on total options: online attention, social circle, work, nightlife, all of it combined. So yes, she's still comparing you to the endless list of dudes in her phone. That's why her standards stay s…
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:03 PM
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How did the convo get sexulized enough to where she invited you over? Did you start talking about sex and hooking up? How did you create the perception of being a good layout? Also most importantly, how attractive was she from 1-10?
/r/seduction18/11/25 10:52 PM
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She has said she wants to have kids in the next few years and start a family but she's also changes her mind about alot of stuff and is extremely indecisive so im talking it with a grain of salt of now. It does make me think she's open to commitment tho
/r/seduction18/11/25 08:56 PM
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Legit
/r/seduction18/11/25 07:24 PM
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Lmao
/r/seduction18/11/25 07:22 PM
1

Theres an age gap forum on reddit while 1000s of girls looking for relationships with older guys. Not sure about that one. Look up "age gap dating"
/r/seduction18/11/25 07:22 PM
1

Yes! Theres a new app called "tea app' where millions of women just shit on dudes they didn't like or rejected them. Should be illegal but somehow it's not
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:53 PM
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Great write up. So how exactly did you manage to reinforce the idea that you have plenty of options to her without cheating? Want to pick your brain here a bit as it sounds your in a successful relationship. Also, whats her age?
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:51 PM
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The question is about whether it's okay to be the first to bring up the idea of exclusivity... you totally missed that
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:45 PM
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Cool story pal
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:29 PM
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No. "Progress naturally" is a copout phrase. At some point either you or girl confesses you want to be exclusive if you make it that stage.
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:28 PM
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My thoughts too
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:26 PM
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Thays why im extra cautious about being exclusive with a girl this young. But in reality a 12 year age gap isnt that much. It just seems like a lot due to her current age, in anther 10 years no one would bat an eyelash..
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:25 PM
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Your relationship and your girlfriends attraction probably isnt that strong if you address these things this haphazardly. Either that or your girl is just unattractive and low smv. Being a relationship means nothing if the girl in question is a hog. Men who pursue attractive high smv women are playing a different game than the fat/ugly lazy people who date each other which is like 60% of the country
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:22 PM
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Maybe not disgusted but lose attraction. Im worried to even tell a girl "i want to see you too" after she told me how much she wants to see me again becuase I know how volatile female attraction can be. I've hooked up with dozens of girls cheating on their boyfriends off dating apps simply cus they were upset and lost a very small amount of respect or attraction over something stupid. It's mind boggling how quickly women cheat these days over very minor issues/attraction loss. To your "healing" …
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:14 PM
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Well said. That's been my strategy and we'll see if she initiates a convo about exclusivity. Im def open to it at the moment
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:12 PM
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Thay seems to be the consensus and my thoughts too
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:10 PM
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Yep my thoughts too. Part of me feels like there is some masculine courage in initiating thay leap to exclusivity but then the other part of me feels that it comes across as needy and low SMV. I actually am surprised at how many people are in relationships considering how dumb and ill informed the average person it when it comes to proper dating dynamics. I guess most guys manage becuase are dating ugly/below average women so there is far less nuance and thought involved in attraction dynamics
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:09 PM
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Yep my thoughts too. Its in a woman's nature to bring up the topic of exclusively i think. If a man does it, I think it just comes off as needy and triggers some kind of disgust in alot of women
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:05 PM
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Regardless of whether or not you like the word, "Confessing" is precisely what youre doing when you open up emotionally about your desire for commitment to a woman and precisely why so many women lose attraction at that very instant or at least question it. You have to understand that a woman's attraction towards you is like the bitcoin exchange, its fluctuating every second based on your every action and you need to keep it high to maintain successful relationships. This is the unfortunate real…
/r/seduction18/11/25 01:01 PM
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Nice. Can you give some specifc examples of the indirect lines you used? Id love to hear some specifc examples
/r/seduction18/11/25 12:46 PM
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Not at all. My profiles are all set to "long term". Most girls these days just have this weird desire to always have to be ones chasing or else they start to lose attraction. Most girls view anytime a guy is chasing them as clingy, desperate, and low market value.
/r/seduction18/11/25 12:44 PM
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Yeah they have to be the ones to initiate the "what are we" convo
/r/seduction18/11/25 12:36 PM
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Lol of course. All my profiles have always been set to long term.. short term is a rookie mistake. Every player knows nearly all women who lists short term are overweight skanks. Most girls just write me off as fuckboy when they meet me even though i genuinely am respectful and charming. Also there's like 50 reviews on the Facebook page about me being a fukboy ghosting, etc and I think alot of girls see it The last point is the biggest issue. There are good mothers the same way there are good de…
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:54 AM
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Best response thus far. Most dating coaches dont ever post examples of solid indirect openers cus their game sucks. Id love to see a complication of 100s of successful and engaging indirect opens. No one in the history of game has ever posted something like that for some bizarre reason
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:44 AM
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You need to establish what constitutes "direct communication"
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:41 AM
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Lol no. Way off
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:35 AM
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Every girl ive ever met has basically said fuccboy vibes even tho I try to give bf vibes (have wholesome pics of me with my dog, cooking, hiking, etc). So many girls just assume this is all a front and i just use strategic bf style pics to get more even more action. You can't win. I know im good looking but I think many girls are paranoid im gonna cheat cus they know i use all the dating apps. Ive been casted to love island and to be the lead on the bachelor, they wanted to pay me $100,000 for i…
/r/seduction18/11/25 11:25 AM
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