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This environment. The one that I directly quoted. I also said this in another comment but it’s very uncomfortable when you can tell a man likes you but is afraid to make a move and you’re not interested. You can’t just randomly announce you’re not attracted to him but if you keep hanging out you’re accused of just liking attention and “orbiting.” Is created by men hearing you and other women say they like men who made the move because he made the move. it’s weird to get mad that men who do make …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:51 PM
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Yes I’m saying this encourages men to make a move which creates this environment you said was very uncomfortable when unattractive men do it. If I was in that environment I would not be saying I like the person who made the move. I would be stating the real reason that made me want the specific people TO make the move and why I don’t want others to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:25 PM
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I know you want to use this to feel intelligent but this is not the way to do so. Competence requires logic and reasoning. Flirting is emotional and cannot be measured. This is a personality trait, not a skill that’s chosen. The success of flirting is not due to skill, it’s due to physical attraction. Men think they’re good at flirting because a woman was physically attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:26 PM
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This is again your moral justification in thinking every man can be this smooth talking player if he just tries. That’s not reality. If you “suck at flirting” and you improve you still “suck at flirting”. Being less awkward does not mean success or that you’re good. You’re pretending that every guy becomes this smooth talking player after a certain point when in reality most men are not considered this at all. You have no idea how this plays out for anyone else other than you and what other fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:12 PM
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And I’ve seen people throw fits when you tell them this. They’re told that story of women becoming attracted over time and that confidence and personality will make up for physical attraction for men who didn’t make the cut. The blue pill is creating this problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:12 PM
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Banter and flirting is something you get or you don’t. There is no learning if you don’t get it. You may become more comfortable doing it with repetition which appears to looker better but these are people who already get it. Women are not going to teach you what to say and when to say it. Men can’t either. This is why the red pill scam to teach you game through a series of courses is so popular. They sell that they are the one person who can teach this thing that no one else can. They can’t. Pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 02:03 PM
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it’s weird to get mad that men who do make a move are successful. Or act like a woman is a bitch for liking a guy who made a move over someone who didn’t. That’s another mark of being a Nice Guy vs a nice guy. Here you’ve just implied the guy who made a move is the guy you like who is rewarded and wins because he made a move. This statement incentivizes all men to make a move on you. I also said this in another comment but it’s very uncomfortable when you can tell a man likes you but is afraid t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:51 PM
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You’re oblivious to what I just told you and I’m not surprised. The point flew over your head from the beginning. The fact that you interpreted me telling you physical attraction is most important as I’m “amazed”is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:57 AM
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No shit. I just told you that. Im obviously not amazed. What is amazing is that women and white knights will tell men their personality is the problem when it’s clearly looks based.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:29 AM
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It amazes you that the blue pill exists? Why are you asking me and not them? Tell it to those idiots who say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:02 PM
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Now that you’ve admitted this this is correct you’ve just lost several blue pill excuses. “You fail with women because you don’t have confidence” Attractive men are seen as confident while unattractive men are seen as arrogant and annoying for the same attitude and behavior. “Improve your personality to get women” “Just talk to women” Attractive men are warmly accepted by women while unattractive men are met hostility for the same behavior and personality. When you admit women treat and choose m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 08:52 PM
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You’ve just had another women above tell me good relationship ranks higher than being single. Now I see why she’s asking how many times it needs repeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:11 AM
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No they’ve said women are happier single. Just as several of you say here on a regular basis.. If you’re confused read the quote and the last comment you replied to. You have just tried to push this same men bad narrative on this post arguing that married women aren’t happier. Now you’re back tracking trying to play the other side as if everyone doesn’t know this. Since you want to pull this then say most women are happier in relationships since most of them want and are in one while outliers ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:04 AM
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There are plenty of men capable of this period. Much more than 50% are capable and worthy even if they don’t check every box. Most men have things like kindness, patience, and loyalty. I see no issues. I gave 20 to 30% of guys who check every box. Accepting a marriage proposal and rejecting a guy at a bar or on an app where none of this comes into play yet are also 2 very different requirements. What I don’t see is patience, kindness, or loyalty valued at all in dating. These aren’t fun or excit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:02 AM
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You’re telling me to draw up the perfect guy I would trust. That’s why I said it’s not limited to just that percentage who has every single aspect and misses nothing. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t accept someone that isn’t perfect and no one who isn’t perfect isn’t good enough. The point was that it was being sugar coated and the reality isn’t as pretty. To say women are better off single usually involves a huge ego to think no man is good enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 01:11 AM
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They said they’re happier single. Not just single women not some women. Women don't necessarily think they're winning by being single, they're just happier single than they would be in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 12:31 AM
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That doesn’t change anything. I’ve pointed out that if women in relationships are happier then women aren’t happier single. You adding “good” does nothing. But even saying women are happier in good relationships destroys your ability to say women are better without men and have no reason to pursue relationships which is what you really want. Women aren’t happier single. They’re happier in relationships which is why so many of them get married. You changing this to good relationships still means …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:36 PM
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I don’t know what percent Id guess 20-30% match every box. Enough people that I would not be saying they’re better off single because no one qualifies. But I don’t need a perfect match or score in this scenario to approve of them. There’s a much larger percentage that I’d hear out. And I don’t base anything on an algorithm. I’m based on what I actually see. That does not mean all women will reject this type of guy but I’ve constantly seen this type of guy get very little attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:48 PM
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When you’re in a relationship you’re going to hear about all of the men approaching and hitting on her. You’re going to hear about the exes who keep calling to come over. You’re going to see the constant messages in their dms. Getting on a dating app will prove this correct in a matter of hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:00 PM
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You don’t know what’s compatible that early on in meeting someone and there is a reason they’re never going to give you the chance to figure it out. I just listed the reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:37 PM
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I’m going to point out why. What’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:36 PM
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Making random claims sounds pretty irrelevant to me. Do you think spouting random buzzwords and phrases accomplishes anything? But of course you want to change the subject away from your ego because there isn’t a response to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:33 PM
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Speaking to any man is painful and humiliating while speaking to women is always great?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:28 PM
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Then tell that to the person who said women are happier single and not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:26 PM
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There’s the cringe “we don’t owe you” line. Read again. I clearly said not finding anyone, not me. Being better off single is not just understanding one person isn’t a match. It’s saying no one is a match. When you think that no man is worthy of being with you that is 100% an ego problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:17 PM
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Women would reject the shit out of the guy I would recommend. The focused, stable, loyal, homebody who is responsible. No flashy IG posts and constant trips. That’s boring to women. That’s not fun. My choice to your question is probably doing terrible with women. What does this prove? There are plenty of men. Hundreds of options yet every one is so terrible that not one is good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:12 PM
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Of course. Unless there is a clear misalignment of values that’s usually what is inferred. Plus a way of them calling you physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:04 PM
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Read the comment again. Your deceptive framing is the focus. It’s not you not finding anyone. It’s your ego and you thinking you’re better than the several options you’ve found. You haven’t thought enough to know what’s a good fit. It’s driven by ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:00 PM
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Trying to play innocent with “I just can’t find anyone” isn’t going to fly. You can and have found multiple suitors and you think you’re better than all of them. It’s the phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:56 PM
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If women are “just happier single” then none of them should be married or in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:52 PM
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Look at how you’re talking about them. Calling a simple engagement with men so unbearable that it’s painful and humiliating clearly demonstrates your lack of respect for men and how you think you’re above them. Yes, it is you claiming they aren’t good enough. A total over exaggeration anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:47 PM
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You can think that but it’s framed as “can’t find anyone” when it’s really “I think I’m better than all of you”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:39 PM
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Oh no they’ve found plenty of options. It’s not that they can’t find someone. It’s that no one is good enough for them. Let’s call this what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:54 PM
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It’s not the way to go. It’s the most accurate description of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:00 PM
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That’s exactly what the blue pill is. Have a “good personality” and if it fails you’re a shit person. They have no answers or solution beyond that. Just cast the guy as a shit person. The red pill actually provides an answer of money and status. While this is technically correct the level of money and status needed for men to use it in dating isn’t obtainable for most men to go this route. Neither have great solution but the red pill will go into depth about the ways women will mistreat you and …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 11:22 PM
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There is one simple problem that creates all of this. The blue pill can and will fail. What happens when you are the best version you can be and it’s not good enough? The red pill are the only ones who try to answer this. Once you’ve done everything you’re told to do and it fails the red pill will be front and center when you’re searching for answers. The blue pill will tell you you’re not owed anything and that’s that. Any further questioning will result in hostility. Those men who are lucky en…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:20 PM
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Being adventurous is not stable. Chaos is not stable. Living in a car is anything but stable. It’s unpredictable. Having a consistent routine day to day is stable. To women it’s boring. They only do this when have to. What they want is excitement. Drama is one form of that. They will want the guy with drama over the guy who prioritizes his taxes every time. I see no issues with the original comment. You say women just want to pay bills but when it comes to dating just paying bills is not going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:30 PM
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What difference does it make if they know why or not? The issue is that the abusive man is rewarded. If a guy understands that he may have been rewarded for other qualities what does that solve? An abuser was still rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:08 PM
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Why aren’t you first letting women know they are focused on the wrong thing and should be more concerned with the fact that he’s an abuser and not with his confidence and indifference? You’re not saying to be an abuser but what you are saying with this is that it’s ok because your confidence and indifference will be what attracts women. Not your morality. What men have issue with is that abusers are given a pass and rewarded in dating because of confidence. Men have issue that abusers are reward…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:29 PM
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You’ve just admitted you defend women more. You sprinkling in a few outliers does not change what side you’re on. Your justification is men are wrong and generalizing more which goes back to you favoring women which is why you think this. You claiming not to see what women say in this sub is yet again your bias. You give them a pass. I see it clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:26 PM
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No that is you.. quite literally This isn't true though. The internet is full of men complaining about misandry when people make general criticisms of men. General criticisms are problematic regardless of who they're directed at. “Men do it too” I’m not confusing anything. You deliberately choose to defend generalizations against women. You don’t want to go to feminist subs because there are not enough men to disagree with. The vast majority of this sub is women shitting on men and blue pilled m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:18 PM
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Then you’ve just realized you do understand where this comes from. Women want fun just like he said. Stability is not fun. Stability is not exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:57 PM
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You’re saying you disputed the no one really cares part but you quoted this. If someone makes a general criticism of women, you tend to get responses like “that’s people in general though” “men do it too” “not all women are like that” or in more extreme cases “you’re a misogynist/incel/hate women.” That’s you. You also know that majority of your comments are defending women and opposing men. You can have outliers but you clearly favor one side.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:51 PM
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As they should be. When women are choosing abusers over men who aren’t that should be a red flag that’s something is wrong. Instead of faulting the woman’s decision making here you’re faulting the men for not being more like the abusers. You’re telling men that they have a pass to be an abuser so long as they’re confident and have indifference towards her because it’s attractive. That’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:19 PM
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Women want fun and excitement. That’s what the women you know want. Drama is one form of excitement. Peace and stability is boring. It’s not attractive. You’re going to fail miserably in 2025 if that’s your selling point to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:14 PM
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Did you actually think this was an answer? I said benefit. You listed no benefit. You don’t understand. Men don’t struggle because they don’t like the women they date. Men struggle because they can’t get the women to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:37 PM
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How is a man, who likely receives little to no attention from women, going to benefit from raising his standards and eliminating even more women from his potential dating pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:22 PM
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They’re incapable of recognizing women contribute to dating issues or that they can be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:18 PM
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Only this sub… You are commenting on a post saying that this doesn’t happen while you’re doing exactly what he just said. He made a a general criticism of women. You are the “men do it too” piece. Someone makes a comment about men you’re conveniently nowhere to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:14 PM
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He is correct but let’s give you a chance anyway. How is a man, who likely receives little to no attention from women, going to benefit from raising his standards and eliminating even more women from his potential dating pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:05 PM
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You don’t know where this comes from? Date women in 2025. Peace and stability is boring. Peace and stability is not attractive, interesting, or fun. Peace and stability gets you rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:54 PM
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What difference does it make if guys get this or not? Most guys do and it’s still an issue because women are choosing abusive men over you. In what way is this a good thing? Bad men are being rewarded and good men are being incentivized to prioritize “confidence” over morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:13 PM
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Most men are not being violent or arguing it should be allowed. You’re bringing up irrelevant topics. You’re conveniently ignoring the premise of the post because you know the answer. Why should men help or support you with your issues when you don’t support or help them? You don’t even respect them or acknowledge their issues. Your only response is “my issues are more important”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:42 PM
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It does not matter what the issue is tied to. The bottom line is why should men care about your issues when you don’t care about theirs? Your response is “your issues aren’t important and mine are”. That’s not convincing. Foreign countries are irrelevant. You can’t tell men “fuck you help me” and be surprised when they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:24 PM
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What should be a right is not part of the discussion. You brought this up. You cannot say because something is not a constitutional right there are no issues present. If an issue like this is brought up the response is why should I care? It’s not a right. This isn’t important. It’s your fault. You choose to respond this way. Not a foreign country. Men hear this and they are questioning why should they support people who diminish their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:29 PM
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Yes people need this and the problem is we’re pretending as if they don’t. Recognizing a need does not mean all men are guaranteed it. For men this is completely in the hands of women so they have the complete power to determine the fate of this piece of a man’s life. Men easily give this away so it’s not as much of a concern for women. You say you’re currently being oppressed and I don’t know what you’re defining that as. But whatever it is, women have the same power to do this to certain men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:25 PM
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This isn’t opinion. It’s an example of what men would be saying and doing if they treated you the same way you treated them. When men have an issue it’s frivolous, most men get married, no one owes you anything. Your response is essentially “fuck you got mine” to those who are struggling but if they say that back to you when you’re struggling it’s an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:09 PM
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No I would never call dating frivolous. It’s not biologically akin to food. It’s a psychological need. Removing intimacy, touch, romantic love, and desire from one’s life entirely will be devastating to that person. Could you imagine what a different person you would be if you never touched, kissed, or held another person? People need this. Dating is determining whether or not you will ever experience this. More so to men who have more testosterone and a higher sex drive. If you have the right t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:57 PM
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And that’s becoming less and less common. That’s an issue. Ok are we just going to say most men get married and fuck you if you didn’t? Then are those men supposed to say most women aren’t oppressed we don’t care about them if they are? If you are determining what is and isn’t an issue for men why can men not determine what is and isn’t an issue for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:42 PM
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It’s not just sex. It’s receiving love, intimacy, and sex. It’s not an issue to you because you either don’t value it, already have it, or can get it whenever you want it. If you deprive someone of this for a long period or even their entire life it will be an issue 100% of the time. And you are not the one who determines if it is an issue or not. If you think you can then why should men not be able to determine your problems as a non issue simply because they don’t have them or think they shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:31 PM
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Your comment is diminishing men facing any dating issues. As if it’s impossible that it exists and that women have contributed to it. You don’t consider it a real issue because it doesn’t effect you. This does not mean only men who have never been in a relationship either. You can have had relationships and still face these issues. The response men get to not only this but any men’s issues is it’s entirely your fault and not valid. But your issues are because of us and are valid. Why shouldn’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:23 PM
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You haven’t made a great argument to his question. All you’ve done is diminish men’s issues and demand that yours are recognized. Told us that your issues are important and need attention while ours are not. Feminism is supposedly about equality yet you’re telling us how our issues are not equal and you deserve help while we don’t. Why would I want to support someone like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:09 PM
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What you’ve said is your issues matter and fixing them is justice because they benefit you. Men’s issues don’t matter to you because they don’t benefit you. He’s brought up a great point. Why should men support or help you? Especially when you don’t support or help them. You don’t even respect or acknowledge the issues they go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:04 PM
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He is correct. That’s the main motivation in most men to succeed. It’s to find love/sex and then it’s to keep it. There are some outliers like asexual and feminine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:42 PM
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Oh right it’s so dumb to think of you as temporary. As opposed to what? How smart you are to think you’re going to get a long term relationship out of someone who’s been on dates with 4 different guys this month and has 100+ matches waiting for her plus all of the guys she knows irl waiting for a chance? Men want to be in relationships with attractive women. You learn to expect most of them come to not want to be there eventually after whatever petty ick or new man they find and because of this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:46 PM
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I already understand that. Which is why I’m not running around trying to use it as an insult and paint it negatively. Men who do understand dating know to treat you as temporary. To look at this is their turn. This is a logical response to more and more women jumping in and out of relationships recklessly. There is no reason to invest heavily when she will leave you at the sight of the next taller more successful and attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:25 PM
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You all are so desperate to call men emotional over anything it’s getting bad. Another hive mind trend that catches on so easily. If you actually realize what’s going on this is a logical decision. Men see their behavior of jumping from guy to guy. Men notice how quickly you become done and want the next guy. This means you don’t invest much and you don’t put your trust in someone who makes a habit of leaving relationships without thinking twice. When you treat them as temporary and recognize th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:46 PM
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This is exactly what I’ve said and people start crying immediately. There are unattractive men who feel threatened by this. They want to believe they can pull attractive women because they are confident despite the woman not finding him physically attractive. I thought this was common sense but there are a lot who never figured this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 08:20 PM
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Funny the second I say this I get swarmed with people screaming this is not true. Yet a woman is here saying this and crickets..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:37 PM
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Basically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:25 PM
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It’s not saying the literal words most important. It’s the implication. This is what the op is talking about. Maybe you live in a city with ugly people? I live in a university town, so my demographic of women is young and pretty, what can I say? And yes, if I step outside, I will 100% see ugly ass dudes with attractive women walking beside them. It's literally just charisma, confidence, and how you make them subjectively feel. Comment 2: I've seen my brother, who was back then an overweight jobl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:11 PM
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Because they view valuing personality as a positive and valuing looks as a negative. There are plenty of women who value looks but they aren’t going to say it because they don’t want to look shallow or materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:05 PM
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Men here will panic spam reply a million arguments about how you will be fine with just confidence if you even hint that women want men who are physically attractive. These are mainly just blue pilled men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:26 PM
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This is constantly being said. These are just reactions to the statement that men need to be physically attractive to women in order to succeed in dating them. It’s not saying the literal words most important. It’s the implication. This is what the op is talking about. Maybe you live in a city with ugly people? I live in a university town, so my demographic of women is young and pretty, what can I say? And yes, if I step outside, I will 100% see ugly ass dudes with attractive women walking besid…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:13 PM
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What incentive to men have to be nice to you? You’ve already explained how nice men are boring and will get ignored. If they are rude they get noticed. They get a response. If there is a choice between getting ignored or getting a response why wouldn’t they want a response?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:07 PM
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Every man faces limitations. Confidence does not mean stupid or delusional. If a 5 is confident and approaches a 10 and isn’t her type that’s means nothing and he gets no where. He’s going to learn what the outcome will be. He can be a brave and confident idiot and keep getting rejected by 10s or he will wise up and confidently approach another 5 that may give him a chance. Confidence isn’t going to get him the 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:04 PM
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The guy who says women wanting physically attractive men is completely wrong is now advocating for men to to to the gym to increase their physical appearances to attract women. I can’t make this shit up. You don’t even remember your argument that confidence alone without physical attractiveness will attract women above your league as you proceed to contradict this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:41 PM
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This was not a comment to you and yet again you’re jumping into something you don’t understand. You’re stating general ideas and thinking it makes you a genius. This person is saying I fail because of insecurity. I’ve pointed out that you can be the most confident man in the world and still be rejected. This proves that failing does not mean you are not confident or insecure. You need to understand what moving the goalposts actually means. He changed the topic and I addressed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:05 PM
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You’re saying no shit to a concept you don’t understand. I’m also perfectly in line with what I’ve been saying this whole time. Your bullshit claim of moving the goal post has no validity and isn’t going to pass. Read the original comment again. No, they don’t. They help men who already have the proper genetics and physical appearance. This is what unattractive blue pilled men say. This doesn’t make ugly men suddenly attractive. They don’t change your physical appearance which is a requirement o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:51 PM
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I’m completely fine with me. I’m content with everything I’ve accomplished and love who I am. You’re not going to change that despite trying. I control what I can do individually. What I’m not secure about is others decision making ability. I cannot control the illogical thoughts and poor decisions of others. You cannot simply get any woman you want because of confidence. The most confident man in the world will get rejected. You cannot make women say yes. You cannot be every woman’s type. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:53 AM
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There’s nothing wrong about telling you women want to date physically attractive men. It’s common sense which would require you to get off Reddit and leave your basement to understand. Have you ever spoken to a woman before? What do they tell you? “I love these ugly fat short men because they are confident”. That’s not how reality works. If you have average looks you might attract average women. If you have above average looks it’s irrelevant to anything I’ve said. Your anecdote proves nothing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:39 AM
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This is exactly what pisses me off. 🤣 People don’t even know what side they’re on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 12:48 AM
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Oh no they are still saying this shit in 2025. Look at these comments from today. They tell you everything about the level of intelligence/delusion of the people here: Maybe you live in a city with ugly people? I live in a university town, so my demographic of women is young and pretty, what can I say? And yes, if I step outside, I will 100% see ugly ass dudes with attractive women walking beside them. It's literally just charisma, confidence, and how you make them subjectively feel. Comment 2: …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:40 PM
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This sub is a great example of why. There are several people here saying that confidence and charisma will allow fat short and ugly men to land attractive women. Some men actually still believe this. So they think they can walk into any bar with the most attractive women and pull because they are confident. It’s not going to happen 99% of the time but they don’t know this or think they will be the 1% who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:15 PM
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You do not choose good people you choose attractive people. You’ve said it. This does not change your attractiveness. Making the world a better place does not make you attractive. You can lie, deceive, and treat others as an object yet still be successful in dating if you are seen as attractive, confident, and high status. You can be honest, good willed and kind yet seen as unattractive and fail in dating. This is why I say there are no morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:56 PM
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This is exactly why I brought up IG models. The women “charisma” will get fat unattractive men is other fat unattractive women. Attractive women want attractive men. It’s not hard to understand. What do you think is happening at Walmart. There are a bunch of fat men waking around with gorgeous women? Lmaoo yeah you definitely know what’s happening outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:47 PM
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Will land you other fat and ugly women with no options. I said this helps men who already have the proper genetics and physical appearance. Fat men have the appropriate physical traits for fat women with no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:24 PM
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Another blue pilled fantasy I’ve seen only on Reddit and never once in reality. A bum who is 5’5 and overweight is going to get overwhelmingly negative reactions from being assertive with attractive women. International models have multiple men who are also confident but tall, attractive, and wealthy to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:12 PM
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If a woman sees you and determines you do not pass what she finds physically attractive none of this matters as she does not care. A 6 dating a 7 because of high social status is not some incredible achievement. He passed her looks threshold. If her threshold cuts off at 5 those men will not be doing the same and will never get the chance. There isn’t going to be a drastic difference if a man is punching above his class.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:03 PM
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Again with the Walmart meme. Fat ugly guys at Walmart are with fat ugly women because those fat ugly women can’t do any better and these men pass the physical appearance bar that is extremely low for these women. These fat ugly men aren’t walking around Walmart with IG models because of their charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:53 PM
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Because that’s what you experience. Not what you choose to join. Women don’t say oh he’s a great guy so I will date him even though he’s not attractive. They say that guy may be an asshole but he’s dominant and hot. Morals are not involved in attraction and dating. Fairness is not involved. People will use you when they get the chance and ignore you if you’re not attractive. What morals are you choosing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:50 PM
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No, this is what unattractive blue pilled men say. You aren’t going to reach the level of “supremacy” in other attributes required to do that. The few rich or high status men can negotiate transactional relationships. Not attraction. You don’t offset below par looks. You match with sub par women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:44 PM
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No, they don’t. They help men who already have the proper genetics and physical appearance. This is what unattractive blue pilled men say. This doesn’t make ugly men suddenly attractive. They don’t change your physical appearance which is a requirement of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:29 PM
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I’d drop confidence, assertiveness, and competence down to only in someone they are attracted to also. I’m on the verge of putting charisma there too. A guy who is confident and assertive towards women who think he’s unattractive will most always end badly for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:40 PM
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If a guy is tall in shape and has a good income and education is he now below average if he is not neurotypical?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:26 PM
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Until I can define the average extroversion for a man is ____ I can’t determine what the average man is. I cannot put a number or measurement on extroversion so I don’t know how this is quantifiable or defined to determine what level of this is accepted as average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:16 PM
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Exhibit what? I have no idea what tendencies you think qualify people as having these “defects” and I have no idea how you’re measuring what level it’s on and what level of each is average. You’ve also said men can have good measurables across the board but having just one of these defects now erases everything and drops his overall score to below average? If these are going to be weighted so heavily they should surely be measurable and explicitly defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:21 PM
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And? What’s the issue? When people start dating they realize quickly that morals no longer are at play. They experience cheating, manipulation, and being left for the next without anyone giving a shit. Eventually they’re going to start playing the game just as dirty. There are no morals in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:12 PM
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How are you measuring extroversion and using it in the ranking of men? Does being extroverted now determine if a man is above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:47 PM
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That’s not measurable unless you have a diagnosed disorder. You cannot call a man below average only because you think he’s “high inhibition” or “neurotic”. In what way are you determining a man to be below average by something such as anxiety which most everyone faces? What level of neuroticism, inhibition, or neurodivergence is average and how is this measured?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:39 PM
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The op says 5’9 average looks 50k income. All measurable and provable attributes which that comment said were all met. This is the problem. You can become average or even above average in every measurable way and still fail yet no one can explain it other than “gut instinct” or “no spark”. So yes, you can have zero romantic interest and be very average. If not then no 5’9 average look 50 income earning man would be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:03 PM
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I’m not asking you or her to understand anything. The bitter women here would be the last people id ask for anything. You wouldn’t know. What I did was make a statement. “I don’t mind” and “makes me feel icky” are conflicting statements. If something makes you feel icky you mind. You prefer not to see it. It’s actually me who is explaining basic English to you. But like her, you’re going to make petty insults and do your little name calling to avoid having to make an intellectual response which …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:43 PM
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Yes a typo is broken English. Which is why you don’t repeat it. Spam calling people obtuse doesn’t save you either. It’s admission of defeat. Again. I don’t mind and “it makes feel icky” are contradictory statements. It’s either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 07:09 PM
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The person arguing “cause me pause” is correct English is calling me obtuse…. What normal person would do is admit to your typo and fix it yet you use it again and try to justify it. That’s hilarious. What’s even more hilarious is that you thought that would distract from the topic of you making contradictory statements that you can’t address. And no, repeating “cause me pause” does not answer anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:55 PM
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Neither one of you can answer a simple question I posed. Very smart of you to jump into a losing battle. I can tell this isn’t your first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:25 PM
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That’s broken English and it’s irrelevant. I don’t mind and “it makes feel icky” are contradictory statements. It’s either one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:15 PM
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You said you don’t mind and then you said it makes you feel icky. Which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:03 PM
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Most men do struggle by facing frequent rejection and settle with what they can get. What you have is men settling with fat or ran through women with issues sitting back and saying I won I’m not struggling. If you have a room of people and you hear everyone had a meal last night you say no one is struggling and there is no issue with hunger because everyone ate. Not realizing half of them dug in the garbage for scraps just to say they ate. Your “majority of men have sex” does not solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:48 PM
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This would explain the Reddit lies. She explained the other types.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 08:13 PM
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Damn this completely shut down that comment. Maybe the correct term would be that they want to appear kind. It’s done to help their image and also could be for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 08:12 PM
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Then autism isn’t the blame here. It doesn’t make you aggressive and you can be aggressive without it or passive with it. You’ve just said you know autistic people that don’t cause you problems so where is the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:56 AM
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Oh you do speak for all of them if they were all honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:08 PM
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You cannot mitigate what you do not control. This is not a choice. This is as if someone told you to become a billionaire then said others have done it why can’t you? You could improve your income, but you realistically aren’t going to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:54 PM
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What makes you have an image of neurodivergent men being this super aggressive and confident approach everyone type of guy? Threatening is the last thing I’d think to describe this as. I’ve always seen this as being more quiet and reserved but just seen as “awkward” by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 01:22 PM
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The only constant I’ve heard is: Do what I want you to do and act how I want you to act without me communicating or explaining either. The most consistent definition available.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:32 PM
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Looking at this thread you have nothing but kindness, empathy, and understanding when women reply that they do in fact have a cleaning plan or schedule. Yet when men replied to you about this you have belittling and negative responses such as: You need a schedule to clean? You can't just look at a mess and go "Okay, time to clean this? Night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:26 PM
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So it’s ok to do what you want as long as you think it’s justified right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:20 PM
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You’re portraying the perfect scenario of the most kind woman happy being single. This is not realistically what happens. The women saying no men are attractive or good enough for them are not the angels you portray. They are hateful and bitter, towards men at least. There is a difference between them and women who understand they cannot handle a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:38 PM
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There is a difference between not dating because you aren’t able to handle a relationship and not dating because no man is good enough for you. This behavior should not be encouraged because if it catches on enough to be done on a large scale it will be a negative for everyone. These types will be hateful and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 03:49 PM
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And this is the issue. When your standards are so high that no man you encounter can reach them they’re unrealistic. They’re a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:50 PM
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The average man isn’t always the winner. If you’re saying only the top men who are proven and flourishing in any environment are found attractive then the average men who are just getting by are not. This sounds more red pill than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:42 PM
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In what way is another woman’s decision my fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:13 PM
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But that is what this is about. The fact that they don’t care about him being a good person, they care about “fun to be around” aka status and being physically attractive. This is his point. When you only care about out “fun” and skip well settled guys you will get some bad guys who treat you poorly because being well settled wasn’t a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:44 PM
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You just said convenience, being in the mood, and there being another person available. Those are the exact reasons men pay. It’s the only way most of them can replicate the same thing you’ve done. By your logic you’re pathetic for needing sex so badly you had to resort to a random at a party. The only reason you have this ability is because you are a female. If you had these same urges as a man you would need to pay to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:38 PM
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All men want to be with women who want them. That does mean they will get it. There is a difference between what men want and what is possible to get. No man wants to be doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:22 PM
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Then you’ve just done the same thing these men have. They paid for sex because it was convenient and there was a woman available. Exactly as you admitted to doing. Do you need to be asked why you needed sex so badly you had to pick up a guy from a party as you asked them? It’s the same reason masturbation wasn’t sufficient for you. Men don’t have the option to walk in any party and pick someone to leave with like you do. Paying is their equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:16 PM
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I am just addressing the question of why. Not going into if it is justified. The why is because of that urgency and lack of opportunity. Once you finally get a relationship with someone you want as a man you recognize how rare it is to have and how difficult it will be to ever find again. At that point it’s do anything necessary to keep her. You want to be with someone you love and are highly attracted to. Once you get the woman of your dreams and she suddenly says she hates men who watch porn, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 09:21 PM
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Because it’s not as simple as go find someone compatible. Most men do not have the large variety of options like women do. There isn’t a luxury to fall back on. It’s the pressure of make this happen now or it will be months or years before you ever get another opportunity like this for a relationship. Men are going to do everything and anything they can to make the relationship happen right then in the short window that’s available.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 06:25 PM
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This is the exact hypocrisy I intended to highlight. Anything he’s done in the past is equivalent. That’s what the topic is. Being judged on past actions. You don’t get to manipulate which past actions are allowed to be judged based on what’s favorable to you and excludes only actions you’ve done. What’s you’ve just said is don’t judge me for my past but I can judge you for yours. If you don’t want to be judged by your past don’t judge a man by his. If you have an issue with his past then you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 05:59 PM
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No, it’s an exact replica. I didn’t say anything about virgins. Literally the opposite. I said you would marry a man who has paid for escorts in the past. Since it would make you insecure about his past to consider this a problem and would be a red flag if you cared to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:50 PM
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Oh really so you will marry a man that’s used escorts in the past. That’s actually noble of you to stay consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:21 PM
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That’s the problem with what you’re saying. Wanting a genuine connection does not make a man stand out in any meaningful way. You will still get ghosted, rejected, and ignored like the others even if you do match and have a conversation. You’re saying If it was 100 matches of decent dudes who genuinely wanted a connection that would be amazing. But that’s not reality But when you have hundreds of not thousands of matches you do have plenty of guys who want a connection. So this is not the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:17 PM
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Then this has nothing to do with being a decent guy or looking for connections. That will solve nothing. The only thing that matters is if you stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:47 PM
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You’re saying If it was 100 matches of decent dudes who genuinely wanted a connection that would be amazing. But that’s not reality There are always decent guys who want connection and many of them will be in those matches, so you do have them available. They’re still mostly ignored even when they do get a conversation. They aren’t getting treated any better because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:20 PM
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This is the typical internet summary of what women portray online dating as but it’s a misrepresentation of what’s actually happening. You’re talking as if every guy you’ve matched with is some asshole immediately asking if you’re dtf and insulting you if you say no. Then speak of how amazing it would be if guys wanted a connection. Now what about those decent guys who actually do want a connection that supposedly don’t exist? They still get ignored, rejected, and ghosted. If you want to text a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:01 PM
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You have no response and you’re avoiding the actual topic because you are wrong and I’ve outlined in detail why. You lashed out and immediately resorted to petty insults because you’re embarrassed about being wrong and mad that someone has pointed this out. You aren’t built for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:46 PM
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You have zero response to anything I’ve said and didn’t ever try to defend what you said. You made a weak argument that I destroyed and addressed nothing because you know how poor your logic is. Your response is to flex your Reddit karma which actually points to being even more pathetic. Don’t come to a debate sub with poor logic and get mad when you get called out. Every one of your responses have been petty little insults completely avoiding the actual topic at hand. If you weren’t offended yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:54 PM
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I can tell you feel embarrassed after I’ve destroyed your poor logic and you have no response. It’s a shame people like you think you can even participate in debates at all. Just spouting bullshit about topics you know nothing about and then gets furious when your broken logic is exposed. Everyone has experience with this, it’s not the flex you think it is. We just aren’t completely oblivious like you are. Let’s use common sense. Who’s more capable of making a long term decision and staying in o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:23 PM
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Every analogy here makes you worse at finding long term decisions. His logic is sound. If you are moving between apartments every year and can’t stay in one space you’ve now become accustomed to constantly moving. When you stay in one place for too long you want a change of scenery. That’s why you’ve behaved this way in the first place. When you choose a place to meet your needs you only think short term. You don’t know how to consider long term investments because you’ve never made one. These a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:32 PM
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You specifically said this was about attraction. What I'm pointing out is how the manosphere gets upset about women not being attracted to them, and here's a redpiller straight up admitting he doesn't want to bang ugly girls despite being oh so lonely, when if the genders were reversed, he'd have zero sympathy for a woman in his situation. Also women don’t want to date men they don’t find attractive. What men would like is if women were attracted to a large variety of men the same way men are at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:59 AM
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It’s called common sense. If you know any women you know they are attracted to a small number of men. You’ve had plenty of women here say they are not attracted to most men. Men consider a large amount of women attractive. Women are more picky. Did we not all know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:47 AM
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Like most men he will find a small percentage of women ugly and a large percentage attractive. Women will find a large majority of men unattractive while a small percentage is attractive. You can be an average guy and be found unattractive by most women. Average women are treated as royalty. It’s just a non issue for most women and applies to far more men. If the women who are deemed ugly are upset they have every right to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 12:05 AM
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We’ve heard over and over again how women make more now. How they don’t need a man’s money. They don’t care about a man providing. What you’re suggesting will not work. If you are deemed unattractive, money will not make you attractive. You’ve already admitted this. Money does not fix physical attributes. Those are genetic. If women don’t need men for survival, now they can focus on physical attributes, as women are the drivers of natural selection. So their physical preferences go up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:05 PM
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In college… This is one of the very last few good environments to find dating opportunities. Past that it’s dating apps or cold approach if you want something beyond those college friends. Finding relationships or even friends for that matter becomes a lot more difficult after that point where you don’t have free time to chat all day on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:40 PM
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Great breakdown. If this isn’t ignored I’d anticipate the response to be some claim of how their husbands have only pulled the positives of each side by having extroversion with no negative behavior while also having the caution and awareness of introverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:20 PM
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I know it isn’t what works. But this is why I do not say things like getting in shape and being in a great financial health will do way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:13 PM
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I really wish this were actually true. Unfortunately if women don’t like you all this will do will turn you into a buff guy with money that’s still alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:55 PM
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You say this applies to you. Are you not married or in a relationship? Are you saying you aren’t capable of establishing a connection and should not be loved because of it? If you can then we can see that women are overreacting here and can overlook this just as men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:26 PM
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This is not the whole story. There are some extreme cases where there is an obvious issue that repels other people. That does not mean we can throw everyone who has dating issues in this bucket. Those quiet ones you mentioned who aren’t ignorantly oblivious do not do just fine and leave with women by their side as you said they do. It’s ew he’s quiet ew he’s awkward. They aren’t dangerous but this won’t save them with relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:19 PM
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So you have this yet you are still married or in a relationship aren’t you? What it’s expected to be is a roadblock, not a complete destruction of any hint of a chance you had. What problem have you had being in a relationship? It’s not that bad of a problem if you and most women who have this have men who overlook it. Everyone has issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:10 PM
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Where are all of the blue pill swearing 80 20 isn’t true? Here we’ve learned only 10% are attractive. But no continue to ignore this and later tell us how this isn’t true and no one says this. Thanks for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:29 PM
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Reddit comments aren’t real life. This isn’t being said to women outside of rare circumstances. Even if it was, the tall attractive extrovert can say this and still attract women because he’s “fun to be around”. The “boring” awkward unattractive quiet introvert is still unattractive regardless. This does not matter. These views are a result of constant rejection, not a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:37 PM
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That’s not how any of this works. There are not masses or men “uncontrollably” shouting hateful things which push women away. Barely any men at all will shout anything. These views are a result of men who have been deemed awkward and unattractive after constant rejection. This is not a cause of anything. If you are deemed as fun to be around (attractive) by women you will succeed in dating, misogynistic or not. If you are deemed as awkward (unattractive) by women you will fail in dating, misogyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:25 PM
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Not sure how you missed the point. This has nothing to do with being misogynistic. There is no reason to associate it to causing failure with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 04:05 PM
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If you are deemed as fun to be around (attractive) by women you will succeed in dating, misogynistic or not. If you are deemed as awkward (unattractive) by women you will fail in dating, misogynistic or not. It’s irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 03:30 PM
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That’s not a solution. Being better means nothing when the final answer is still no. When you actually become an athlete and get in shape you’ll realize there’s nothing stopping women from picking someone who’s in worse shape than you and nothing to make them give a shit if you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:43 PM
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You’re only thinking of this from the perspective of a woman thinking it works that way for everyone. Doing all of this can improve results from YOUR attractiveness and help to a greater degree since men are not as picky. Men can improve all of this and still see little to no dating results from their improvement. In a way you’re proving ops point. Men can do all of this and still fail because most of their attractiveness is outside of their control. You’re rejecting this thought by saying oh th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:22 PM
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That’s not a solution. The gym does not fix genetics or status. I could tell any woman I could out-lift you in any lift and not one would give a shit or date me because of it. Been there and done that. This applies to a small subset of genetically gifted men who are naturally attractive but lazy and know nothing about fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:19 PM
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I don’t have to. Mediocre men not being able to impress women is 100% red pill. I literally quoted you word for word. It’s hilarious you’re calling an exact quote “putting words in your mouth.” Now we see what actually happens when women have choices. And this is a natural consequence of men not having the ability to impress women enough. I think religions and previous patriarchal systems had to oppress women into a role so that mediocre and below average men could get a partner despite it maybe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:32 PM
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I didn’t ask you shit. If it’s so clear why the fuck are you asking me if you said average men can’t impress women? You said mediocre AND below average. You’re not about to change what you said. What happened here is you found out you’re supporting the red pill and you’re trying to weasel out of what you said. You can’t. You’re telling me men aren’t handed wives yet 70-80% are in relationships. Apparently they still are being handed out according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:27 PM
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I literally just quoted you…. Directly. You just said men don’t have the ability to impress women. You just said mediocre men can only get a partner through “patriarchal systems”. Getting a relationship at one point is pure luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 08:12 PM
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You do Now we see what actually happens when women have choices. And this is a natural consequence of men not having the ability to impress women enough. I think religions and previous patriarchal systems had to oppress women into a role so that mediocre and below average men could get a partner despite it maybe being detrimental to the species. It was to keep men in control by the people in power at the expense of women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 07:42 PM
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Then you’re defending the red pill and admitting women don’t want average men and want the top percentage who “impress” them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:18 PM
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Women have complete control and power over the dating market and determine which men succeed and which men lead lives of isolation. Most of that 30% of women decided to live the way they do with the luxury of knowing they can change and find love at any time they want. It’s not a problem for them it’s a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 06:13 PM
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This is the problem with women’s dating advice. They tell you what’s nice, not what’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:19 AM
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Yes this is a great point that is frequently ignored. This is why using kind or good to describe outgoing extroverts with large social networks is a boneheaded choice. These people do not have to be good or kind to accomplish this whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:55 AM
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Ok (can’t believe I have to explain this either). Non blue pill men already know this. What we don’t know is why you advise kindness to men who you supposedly understand are failing due to physical appearance. The problem is you and blue pill women’s solution to unattractive men’s dating problems is be kind. You will never straight up tell a man he’s getting rejected because he’s ugly. You can’t tell those deemed short, awkward, low status, or genetically disadvantaged by women to be kind. They’…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 12:52 AM
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It definitely made up for more in the past than it does now. I’m sure this plays a role in the lack of motivation in men today also. What’s the point in success if it doesn’t pay off?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:36 PM
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Not only this but wealth is meaningless unless it can be displayed and is visible in a way that benefits her. So it’s going to be spent rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 08:31 PM
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It’s directly quoting the comment she replied to which is the topic being discussed… She’s saying she’s in full agreement with that. I said she’s not. The comment says women are attracted to looks regardless of good or bad personality. She is saying women are attracted to being good as a trait. Everything was laid out in the comments already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 08:07 PM
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Then you don’t agree. Being good does not make you attractive unfortunately. It’s a side bonus. Being dominant, tall, physically attractive, appearing to have high social status and know many people, appearing to be wealthy, appearing successful etc. attract women. You can be attractive with any combo of these without being good. You said women aren’t attracted to the bad in bad men but stopped short of admitting women aren’t attracted to the good in good men either. If you admitted that I’d put…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:32 PM
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Yes. Women are attracted to good looking men who are assholes and can get away with it. They get away with it by still attracting and dating women despite their poor characteristics. That means they got away with it because women accept it and will still date them. Women pursue attractive men. Not good men. You are opposing this if you think they need men to be good in addition to being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 06:38 PM
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With that case I still don’t see this being in full agreement. With him saying women are attracted to looks and will accept whatever traits come with it good or bad. You agree to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:31 PM
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There is nothing fair about this. Reality is true, not fair. The majority of the requirements to be attractive are what you are born with and outside of your control. One person having to work. 10x harder to get a fraction of what someone else was born with and did nothing to gain is not fair in any world. You can call this real but this is in no way fair. Life is not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:01 PM
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In what way do you fully agree? You didn’t mention looks once in your post. You’re still pushing this idea that women want good men and only date bad men because they somehow tricked them. I don’t see you agreeing at all. His point is being good or bad doesn’t matter. Physical attraction does. Yours is women want good men and is based on personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 04:54 PM
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When you do actually gain more than 2 brain cells you’ll realize its men who are saying looks matter and women claiming its personality. No men are asking you for help. No men are trying to argue that looks aren’t important unless they’re blue pill. Let me slow this down enough for you. Men are the ones who understand the importance of looks. They don’t need or want help to understand this. It’s women who argue otherwise. If you have a problem with people who believe this you can ask the women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:29 PM
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No shit. I clearly understand looks are most important. Can you not read I just said that? Most men who are not blue pill do. It’s women who claim otherwise. The point that flew over your head is you don’t say shit to the women peddling “personality” is the reason men fail at attracting women. Why don’t women here understand or even accept the fact that looks are the most importance part of attraction? That’s what your question should have been. I say this constantly and get nothing but bitching…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:04 PM
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Great. When men talk about struggling to attract women tell them it’s because of their looks and not their personality. When women tell them be kind and someone will come along correct them that this will not work because they are not attractive. Start admitting that unattractive men probably won’t find relationships regardless of how nice they are or how great their personality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:30 PM
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Wild guess here that you’re one of those women. That’s why you’re mad and now taking shit responding to a levelheaded response that embarrassed you. The way you all act here is so disgusting. You hate when the silent part is said out loud. I told you being likeable does not equate to sexual attraction. Attractiveness and status is what matters, these make you likeable to women. Likeable is also such a poor choice of terminology seeing that it’s too subjective to be used here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:43 PM
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Being hot makes you likeable. Being likeable doesn’t make you hot. The men who aren’t that attractive can possibly get relationships from women who can’t attract hot guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:49 PM
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I’ve already engaged with everything you’ve stated and your only response was “whining”. I just told you. Ugly people in relationships are ugly. They aren’t attractive. They are in relationships out of convenience, proximity, luck, and desperation. Not because they are attractive. Women are not rejecting men because of them “blaming the world” as you’ve claimed. Being likable does not equate to sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:23 PM
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Let’s repeat to watch you try to weasel away again. You haven’t addressed anything. Who the fuck asked anyone for sympathy? No one asked you anything. I told you that you are wrong and outlined why. You have no defense to what you’ve said because you are. Men are rejected because of looks and social status. Not because of some bullshit just world fallacy of your attitude or blaming the world. Women aren’t attracted to physically unattractive men. They are attracted because of their looks. You’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:12 PM
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Avoiding the fact that you’ve just claimed women don’t like attractive men? You really think the internet defines any of this? They just report on it. When you actually observe behavior you would learn this naturally without touching an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:11 PM
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Proving you wrong on a topic YOU brought up is not whining. You all don’t even know how to use basic words anymore and spam this shit thinking it will get out of your poor argument. Try reading again. Who the fuck asked anyone for sympathy? No one asked you anything. I told you that you are wrong and outlined why. You have no defense to what you’ve said because you are. Men are rejected because of looks and social status. Not because of some bullshit just world fallacy of your attitude or blamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:01 PM
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Claiming women don’t like physically attractive men. It’s actually incredible. Only on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:57 PM
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This is not “whining”. It’s a statement which proves everything you’ve said wrong in a topic you’ve brought up. Yes, it is because of looks. No, ugly people in relationships are not attractive. You’ve done the classic let’s call this whining because my points don’t stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:52 PM
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They like tall physically attractive men who display the image of high social status. Guys understand that. Learning what they like does not mean you can be what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:29 PM
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No one wants to date goblins period. They do if they can’t get any better. Being likable does not equate to being sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:21 PM
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Oh right women say "You are unattractive because you'd rather spend your time blaming the world for your bullshit and inability to find healthy coping mechanisms than finding a better way.“ in the 10 seconds needed to look at you to determine whether or not you’re fuckable…. Women aren’t attracted to physically unattractive men. They are attracted because of their looks. You’re terrified of saying this. Ugly people in relationships are ugly. They aren’t attractive. They are in relationships out …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:17 PM
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Men and women have different biology. You don’t have the same level of testosterone. That is not opinion. What you need to live is irrelevant and a poor overused excuse. You don’t need social interaction to live. So completely stop interacting with everyone. Use your same logic to evolve past it. Majority of people need some type of romantic intimacy to be happy and content. This is more severe for men who factually have more testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:44 PM
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It’s biological. Why don’t you evolve to figure out why you need to eat? It’s not ideal to pay for food. Better yet why don’t you evolve to not need any social contact at all? If regular social interaction is required for you to be happy you should try to figure out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:51 PM
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Oh no I mean they do like the women. They probably love them. They need to keep providing something to her or she will leave looking for more. Men learn that woman want what they can provide to them and how they make her feel. Not the actual man. Once that is gone she will be too. The man is there to please her. His time is spent figuring out how.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:37 PM
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Then their selections determine nothing about me as I said. If this was the case then you shouldn’t be saying: If people are selected ahead of you, you’re not better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:30 PM
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Then they can’t pick or determine the better option. Their selection is not dependent on who’s best and does not mean anyone selected is better. That’s their flaw not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:06 PM
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You just said “If people are selected ahead of you, you’re not better” meaning those people are objectively better. Now you’re saying it’s subjective and admitting they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:52 PM
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What they can provide to you and how they treat you are both part of the transaction. If you no longer provide or give a specific treatment they leave. Most men learn they don’t like you they like what you can do for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:34 PM
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This example is exactly what relationships are. If you stop providing whatever it is that’s attracted them, they leave. If a woman pulls sex from a relationship is the man going to say it’s ok we can do something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:06 PM
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You’ve just made contradicting statements. If everyone selected ahead of you is better than you that would be fair. It’s not the case. This would also mean that women have 100% correct judgement and can do no wrong in their selection. That is also not the case. This would also mean that women determine men’s worth by selection which is your dream. That damn sure is not the case and will never be close to coming true. Is going to stay exactly that. A dream. Better try that with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:56 PM
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And you haven’t read what I said. I don’t know what she’s done to call her anything. What I do know is she is defending the idea of hopping from guy to guy and justifying it as being acceptable. I’ve pointed out that behavior is not praiseworthy. That’s nothing to defend her over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:09 AM
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You’re justifying going from man to man on a whim simply because you feel like it. That’s not how married women speak. You being able to do so doesn’t mean it’s right or something to glorify as you are. I’ve had relationships before, there is no “admitting” anything other than some bullshit you’ve created. If someone has their tongue down my throat one night and randomly decides they’re not compatible afterwards that person is fake and was playing games to begin with. You’ve just defined leading…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:55 PM
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You’re justifying going from man to man on a whim simply because you feel like it. That’s not how married women speak. You being able to do so doesn’t mean it’s right or something to glorify as you are. I’ve had relationships before there is no “admitting” anything other than some bullshit you’ve created. If someone has their tongue down my throat one night and randomly decides they’re not compatible afterwards that person is fake and was playing games to begin with. They should learn what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:55 PM
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Then men do not have the luxury of being able to have a better life single. Their biology and position in the dating market doesn’t allow this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:01 PM
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Yes being humble has everything to do with being egotistical. It’s something you haven’t learned. Humble people aren’t egotistical. When you have an ego and think you’re hot shit when you actually aren’t other people won’t respect you. When you don’t care about anyone but you and treat others like shit people won’t respect you. You actually need me to tell you what right and wrong is? I shouldn’t have to teach anyone why they shouldn’t be an arrogant greedy prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:31 PM
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I’m sure you are and most men will give you a pass to do so. I can’t teach you to be humble or care about others. That’s something you develop over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:59 PM
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That’s great but that’s not what’s being asked unless you want to refute that single women are happy. Women are claiming they are so much happier single. This posts asks how men can do the same. Men will not accomplish this without receiving intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:51 PM
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Do you really need help from others to convince you to care for other people other than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:41 PM
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Then it doesn’t solve the issue. Neither men or women will be happy single with no intimacy for 6 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:30 PM
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I wonder why they didn’t they answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:26 PM
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If you’re ok with others disrespecting and using you that’s fine. I’m not and you’re not about to tell me to be. If you want to jump from person to person at the slightest inconvenience and think that’s ok, I don’t. Over time I’ve developed morals and values to understand the importance of serious relationships long term. I’m not stringing someone along not knowing if they’re worth dating. I’m able to make a decision. This is not about the chubby guy who fails. The guys who get in shape and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:06 PM
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Yes, if a guy receives sex it should be understood that there is an expectation of some sort of dating. Why would women be ok with men getting over on them like this? Yes, if something sexual happens I should still continue to contact her. Why would I run off and never speak again afterwards? If a woman respects you enough to date and have sex with you then you should be investing in her. You shouldn’t have approached to date if you didn’t intend to. When a man has made the sacrifices necessary …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:56 PM
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You not liking something does not make it a lie. Did you actual think you could add the word “only” which wasn’t said anywhere and think no one would notice? That’s not how it works. They don’t have to provide anything other than intimacy to keep a man. Men and relationships will come regardless. When I’ve done everything the right way and busted my ass in every way possible to succeed you think you’re about to tell me I’m not good enough for some bum who hasn’t? Not hearing it. You all love to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:41 PM
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This is what relationships are. A glorified transaction. The man provides something whether it’s good looks, social status, or recourses, while the woman allows him to be in her presence. You cannot choose a relationship where you provide nothing. Men are bitter when they are excluded from participation despite putting forth the effort to be there. Why wouldn’t they be? When other men are included who have not done what you have you won’t be happy with the outcome. You shouldn’t. Having the conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:16 PM
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Men do not do the picking unless you are of the most attractive or successful. Men cast out as far as they can and will work with whoever says yes. They don’t have pools of options to choose only the best from. That’s up to women to stereotype men. Men prioritize physical attributes. No one cares. It’s clearly true. If you date a man you probably are dating one that prioritizes physical attributes. Not because you “tailored” to them. When most people fall into a generalization you will most ofte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:41 PM
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Of course there are men who will lie and pretend women are angels who never did any wrong to them as if they’ve never had any issues. They all just worship you right? Men don’t simply pick the best women available and they come running. It’s not that simple or easy. There isn’t a lineup waiting for you to call their name to serve you. Again When you have a majority who behave this way and a small group that doesn’t, most men will encounter the majority that does. There is not enough of that smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:19 PM
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I’m not responsible for others behavior nor can I control it. You’re not about to flip this to be my issue. These generalizations exist because they are common. That’s what you will run into as a man. You aren’t going to avoid this. When you have a majority who behave this way and a small group that doesn’t, most men will encounter the majority that does. There is not enough of that small group who doesn’t to go around to every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:13 PM
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I’m still waiting. Every experience I’ve had was with the general stereotypes named in this post. If we’re going to discuss dating that will be what I discuss. Not “what about the ones who don’t”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:03 PM
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No one lacks awareness because one woman exists somewhere that doesn’t do this. Where you fall flat is the “there are tons of people who don’t”. There aren’t. Generalizations are made because they are common. No one gives a shit about outliers when they are so rare that you don’t come across as them. Never found them and doubt I will. They aren’t worth mentioning. You prepare for and discuss what you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:37 PM
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Yes but for item 1 some do know and will intentionally never admit it because they don’t want to appear superficial. Other than that why would they need to develop any awareness about the situation? They can continue on doing this and still have a steady stream of men wanting to be with them at all times. They always have options so they don’t need to care about improvement or introspection. Their thought is oh he didn’t work out just throw him away and start again. Men are in abundance and disp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:57 PM
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No it’s a regular occurrence, it’s just not high tier a list. They all have a story about the blue checkmark in their dms. Even comments on this post about it happening. That’s really all you need to be considered high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:35 PM
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My guess is nothing, outside of an obvious attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:22 PM
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Showing you what? What did you actually learn?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:36 PM
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What could you possibly tell about how a man would treat you in seconds?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:00 PM
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This is what makes me sick about the whole situation. If I approach and fail I’ve just contributed towards that inflated ego, worsening the whole issue. If I don’t approach I get nothing. I hate knowing that I’ve contributed at all to this or give these types any positive recognition fueling them to become worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:55 PM
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Nearly every couple I know that did not meet in college or through college connections met on apps. I couldn’t even name 5 that didn’t. I don’t even want to ask anymore at this point because I already know I’m going to hear the same thing. Once you move past this point it’s apps or nothing. It’s an undoubted consensus with everyone I speak on this topic with that apps are the primary source.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:44 PM
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Let me emphasize that you had the preexisting generic traits that enabled this to work. The 5’2 janitor will probably not pull this off just by adding lean muscle. Those overemphasizing personality probably know it won’t work or they don’t have the discipline to stay in the gym. So personality is what they use to feel like they can still win. Other than those instances where improvement is not a solution yes this is exactly how they diminish superficial traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 02:50 PM
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First this post is about obtaining dates from women through clubs, classes or hobbies. The most successful men or ones who appear to be that way are the only ones actually doing this. Second if you do want to go there men do not care as much about spending time together like women do. They don’t like your hobbies or social groups because they make it more likely that they will be replaced. You fulfill a man’s intimate needs and convince him that you’re loyal he will give you any time you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 05:33 AM
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You don’t attract women by hard work. The most attractive men aren’t the hardest working. This is not a Disney movie where everyone wins in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:05 PM
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In other words they can’t brag to their friends about this. Everything men do must benefit her. Even in their free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:44 PM
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Great point. You can’t just be in the group. She won’t care. You need to dominate and hold power over others in that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:41 PM
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I’m expecting that you have an extroverted business owning millionaire husband with a 6 pack who is the life of the party at all times in his sparkling clean high rise loft.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:37 PM
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How can one be selective without having high standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:22 PM
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You’ve admitted this is true in the beginning stages. That is where all of these problems arise. The people having these conversations don’t care about anything but the beginning stages. If that’s where the high expectations are you can’t get around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:18 PM
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This is unbelievable. You just asked who is telling men that they don’t need looks and wrote an entire paragraph about how men can pull women without having looks…. You’re saying “completely ugly men find women” then asking why ugly men think they can pull women. Think about that..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:40 PM
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It does not matter what the rest of the package is if you don’t have looks. She does not care. Looks are the most important factor in attracting women. Without them you lose. That’s what you would be telling men if you were realistic. Not “they aren’t the most important part of dating” so men think they can compensate without them by having other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:25 PM
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It doesn’t matter if you didn’t say the exact words looks don’t matter at all. You’ve downplayed the importance of looks and made them irrelevant which puts you in the same bucket. You’re saying looks can be compensated for by other qualities and you don’t have to be the most attractive. You’ve just given any impressionable guy who listened to you the hope that he will land the woman of his dreams. This idea that the not so attractive guy will succeed because he has the whole package and looks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:18 PM
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like they aren’t the most important part of dating Downplaying the importance of looks as if they aren’t the most important and necessary piece to attraction. most don’t have a hard set requirement that their partner has the be the sexiest person objectively on the planet Implying you don’t have to be the most attractive to obtain a relationship. not just because of looks but because of the whole package Implying you can bypass looks to get a relationship by having other qualities. Idk where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:03 PM
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We went from this is not the feminist approach to it is but it’s ok because they’re hated. This is the part where you start your act so you can defend them repeating what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:39 AM
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This is the most red pilled comment here if it were actually true. Just had a comment about how women aren’t all chasing Chad. Maybe I’ll direct her here. Anyway attractive men are typically not that powerful that they can call a top attractive woman at any time 24/7 and she will come crawling with no strings attached. They will dip into average non fat women at times when this isn’t possible. And when they do they don’t have to follow the rules she typically has for men while dating. Unless the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:49 AM
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Attractive men will commonly date down to get casual sex. Women will likely let him because he’s attractive. He does not follow the same rules that other men need to who aren’t. If they are having sex within the first few dates of someone they’ve only known for 1-2 weeks then yes that is immediate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:50 PM
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This is not a female? Woah what a bad ass bragging about pussy on the internet. I’d surely be more impressed if I knew how fat she was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:58 PM
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The difference is I’m not telling you that you could and that’s what you should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:49 PM
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Statements that you don’t like aren’t complaining. Far from it. If you have a problem then stop women from spamming on every post that men are pathetic. No that’s totally fine for you though. But if anyone responds it’s a problem right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:48 PM
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The standards for the most attractive men are going to be much more lenient than what’s for the average guy who will have more rules to follow. If all the guys you know are having sex immediately with women they’ve just met then I really don’t know. I would guess they aren’t so average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:46 PM
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Love how you all act big and bold and always want to talk shit yet if someone responds it’s always “why are the men here so mean to me”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:27 PM
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Then you don’t know what it’s actually means to be alone. You don’t know what the value of touch and intimacy is or you don’t have that value. Settling with a woman who doesn’t want to have sex with you immediately is nothing near pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:09 PM
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What I’m describing is most of the couples you see. Men put up with this. That’s doesn’t mean they enjoy it or are happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:02 PM
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Most men do not have the variety of selection to do this. Men don’t decide if they are the guy who bangs within the first few dates. They either happen to have the traits or they don’t or they’re in the right place at the right time. Most average men don’t have the option to be some stud that women abandon standards for on the first date. They must play the clean up role to be the safe option and once she settles down. You will pick that over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:50 PM
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If men could decide to only date women who wanted to immediately have sex they would mostly all do it. It’s not that easy or that simple. You wouldn’t know this beforehand even if you asked. Nor do most men have the variety of selection to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:23 PM
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I don’t know why. I’m not manipulative or cruel to people because they’re awkward or weird. If all of their dating experiences are them receiving this type of treatment that’s what they’ll talk about. If all women they find are like this they’ll probably talk as if it’s all women. That’s what they see. One random woman who doesn’t behave this way is irrelevant if you can’t find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:19 PM
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You don’t get to play both sides. You’re saying there’s no substance because only some women are like that then say you aren’t denying their experience. You are. That’s the treatment and experience they get from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:06 PM
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If you’re not denying their experience then you should have no issue with the all women terms. It’s all women to them because that’s all they see is women exhibiting the behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:57 PM
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It’s an analogy… An analogy of how you can know that’s something is true and still not like others talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:55 PM
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If someone is overweight they know that it’s true. If someone else points this out and discusses their bad eating habits they won’t like it and they’ll think negatively towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:49 PM
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If this is the only behavior that men experience from women then it really doesn’t matter. To them it’s all or most women because that’s all they see and get. If that’s what you experience that’s all you will know that exists. That’s not hate that’s the reality of their experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:44 PM
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That’s exactly what it is and what they do with every issue. You will never see feminists siding with men unless they’re kissing their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:07 PM
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Siding with women always no matter the situation or how wrong they are. Yes this is actually the feminist approach. This is exactly what white knights do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:07 PM
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That’s just too bad. Women already set the expectation that men are supposed to approach. These are the men who are rewarded. The most aggressive. If men don’t approach they face complete isolation and will be ignored. You all asked for it and got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:48 PM
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Let’s not forget about the white knights. They deserve credit too for repeating feminists ideas for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:36 PM
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Yes I did say they are sharing her. The op mentioned men sharing women but will not admit to women sharing men. Women do share men also but only the top percentage. A large portion of women can have multiple men sharing them on their roster. A small portion of men can have multiple women sharing them on their roster.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:29 PM
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These days the common trend is for women to have a roster of men while dating. Probably 2-5 guys at a time. All of which serve different purposes. They probably all can’t share sexually, but they are sharing her attention and time all while competing for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:44 PM
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What is supposed to happen here? They will experience more interest than the average male. A bottom 25% women will out value an average male. They also have a much easier path to improve that value through diet and makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:40 PM
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Of course now no one wants to talk about it when insecurity is being used against men. It is constantly said otherwise and especially here. Calling anyone incredibly insecure is an attack 100% of the time. Do you think this is a compliment? You are not free to share your feelings or insecurities as a man as you and others love to say they are. They will use it to attack you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:34 PM
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Once you open up to them about your insecurities they will then use it as an attack. Once you set a boundary that they don’t like then those insecurities aren’t acceptable. Men cannot show or share insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:01 PM
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Yes typically when women are talking about men displaying emotion they are talking about anger and not displaying it towards them. This post is not about anger, it’s about insecurity. When they say display emotions as a man you must read this as do not display any emotion to her that can be considered weak. This will be used against you and will negatively impact the way she sees you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:35 AM
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These are the same ones saying “open up more”, “I love men who show emotion”. Yet you see how they weaponize any insecurity you show against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:39 PM
2

So you don’t suffer from just low quality men who just want sex. You now recognize that you do have men who want relationships also. Yet despite them not being out just for sex, as you said was the problem, they still aren’t good enough because…. “Personality”. Whatever that means. You say you want more than that yet when you get more than that it’s still not good enough and we don’t know why except misogyny. Idk.. maybe looks have something to do with this? Nah no way. You do realize that major…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 06:30 PM
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And what about the guys who do want a real relationship yet still get ghosted, rejected, or straight up ignored? The ones putting in the work to find a connection long term. I guess these are just lowlifes too right? Despite trying to do things the right way. If you say you want that then how would this still happen? Theres much more to it that you aren’t mentioning. He’s right about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:26 AM
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This is the giveaway that either you are lying, trolling, unaware, or severely exaggerated. Every man regardless of attraction has had issues with women. A list celebrities including who many describe as some of the most successful men ever such as Will Smith and Tom Brady famously had issues with women and marriage. If you had no issues you’ve never had a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 06:38 PM
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I get you’re saying this for the sake of the argument but no, introverts typically are not the ones talking in circles not giving you a chance to speak. Quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:09 PM
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There is a reason men are rejected. The reason is most likely not something they have control over and not something they can get. It’s not because of Reddit comments. When you admit that most men fail in dating due to circumstances outside of their control you will be past the just world fallacy because you admit thier situation is not fair. I’m confident you won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:37 PM
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Women typically chase the most social outgoing extroverted (loud mouth) men. Then commonly come back with this complaint. Not sure what you expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:20 PM
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This is not the bare minimum. Many people do not actively invest anything past the basic retirement fund. If this is true it demonstrates he is responsible and can contribute financially. I see that most women now put zero value in this. What do you actually care about? What success actually impresses you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:15 PM
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This is a very real scenario and I’m sure this is how most of them treat me. I can’t personally respect this. Im not saving my personality for only people I like and would date. Im not making you prove your worth in order for you to have a true interaction with me. If they have that type of ego they probably aren’t worth talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:09 PM
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Be attractive and fit into the small percentage of men who are to her. Be outgoing Never be shy Display dominance Display courage Have a large social circle Financially stable Be a certain height Be a certain race Have a style of dress that she likes Do not be awkward… ever Have social skills Have a decent place The list goes on… This is just to have a chance. But all of this is omitted and all we need to do is shower and don’t be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:06 PM
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Nothing you just said is new to anyone. You’ve done exactly as I’ve said you would. Made some generic interpretation that anyone can do. Completely different from the last definition I’ve heard. You all just throw whatever you want in and call it official. Everyone has emotions and they have no choice but to process and manage them. This is not some secret only you know. Emotional intelligence is about as real as astrological signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:30 PM
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It’s like they imagine events as being filled with all single women twiddling their thumbs waiting to be approached by men they don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:26 AM
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Theres nothing to repeat. You’ve proven nothing. Just be destroyed everything you’ve said. You have no argument. This is someone who was called out on the definition of emotional intelligence and responded to define it as someone who acts emotionally intelligent. Let’s repeat so we can clarify how bullshit “emotional intelligence” is. This is someone who was called out on the definition of emotional intelligence and responded to define it as someone who acts emotionally intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:53 PM
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I slowed this down as much as possible yet you still don’t get it. It’s pointless this is too much for you to comprehend. No shit it’s in the post tf did you think you were accomplishing by saying this? It’s not defined there either. Your definition of what being emotionally intelligent makes you aware of = “whether or not you act emotionally intelligent.” Maybe actually think about what you say and not just repeat the same word in the definition. You will be attractive with or without this. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:16 PM
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There’s nothing here I don’t understand. All of you using this have a completely different definition of what this is. You keep saying it. It’s a strength it’s a tool you require it. But you can’t accurately say what “it” is without giving a generic interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:23 PM
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Your point is irrelevant. You’ve said oh wait there are some women like that that exist. Great. And? There are very few women in male dominated hobbies. Out of the few women there most of them are not single. Most of them are not there to be approached and came to interact with the group they came with and already know. You probably won’t even get a proper opportunity to approach. If there is one that’s single and also open to meeting new men then get your spot in line. You aren’t the only man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:16 PM
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People saying this don’t think that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:06 PM
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A theory regarding emotion. Not a fact or definition. No unit of measurement or way to scale levels from one person to another. No universal or defined characteristics. It is a trend now. Women throw it out as an excuse to reject and ghost men that they have no other reason to reject. An abstract justification of why men aren’t good enough with no proper definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:13 PM
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These women aren’t going to these places to meet men. The few women there are there to interact with the group they came with and participate in the activities at hand. Or you can be one of the 8 men in the skewed gender ratio trying to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:26 PM
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All of these stupid internet trends have Wikipedia page. Are you going to tell me about the scientific study of “Rizz” next? You’ve been asked how to measure it and you have nothing. You ask 10 people what “emotional intelligence” is you get 10 different answers. You can’t answer of how to improve it, how to define it, or how to measure it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:14 PM
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Oh look there is an article on my buzzword so it’s real!!1!!1 There are articles on the red pill also so everything they say is 100% factual and real. Such impressive logic you have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:05 PM
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Thats obviously in the post and that’s not 2.…. It tells me absolutely nothing. Be socially aware is your own personal subjective opinion. Aware of what? Most everyone is aware. Women aren’t simply attracted to you because you are positive towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:03 PM
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This could mean anything. That’s the problem with these loosely defined buzzwords such as emotional intelligence. What could they possibly be doing involving emotion that’s causing mass rejection while they have everything else in great shape?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:16 AM
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Then why wouldn’t he have women for this reason if he’s such a catch?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:54 AM
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Didn’t you just say abusers do the same in showering with love which apparently works? What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:46 AM
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So if a man isn’t on the spectrum you believe whatever he says? Are you telling you are this gullible to anyone not on the spectrum? What could possibly make that much of a difference? This doesn’t even sound real. More like a ln opportunity to make a dig at men you perceive to be socially awkward. We get it you are disgusted by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:45 AM
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Who is actually sitting here thinking woah I never thought of this though?
/r/seduction30/06/25 11:55 PM
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I see it constantly. They can sense desperation. They can sense the misogyny. The vibe was off. Both men and women saying this. Which is what one thing, but don’t turn around and tell me you got tricked because he was pretending to be nice and you fell for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:25 PM
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I wouldn’t have a problem with this excuse if it weren’t for them also claiming to have a sixth sense to know when a man is a bad person and can sense bad vibes. They are so skilled at vetting yet can get hooked from a guy pretending to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:33 PM
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Is it really that easy to deceive women? Is this actually a matter of pretending or attractive and high status men given a pass to do what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:22 PM
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I’d categorize that scenario as obviously ignorant and rude which many men are not. The guys who do ask questions while being kind and polite. They’ve done everything right according to the personality crowd yet still rejected. This is a common scenario without a common answer. Everyone jumps to them being blatantly rude. Yet if they aren’t then what?
/r/seduction30/06/25 02:06 AM
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People keep saying personality like you did. What would guys be doing wrong personality wise use that’s so bad? If you are who you are that doesn’t seem avoidable
/r/seduction29/06/25 06:43 PM
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People keep saying this but what could be that bad personality wise that would cause constant rejection? I refuse to believe guys are being so obviously ignorant and rude that it causes this.
/r/seduction29/06/25 03:59 PM
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He did and I reminded him how desperate you all are to make women out earning men in marriages appear normal. You aren’t. But go ahead and check the homeless shelter for your next husband. That’s clearly your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:06 PM
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And he replied and addressed both. My comment is still 100% true about the weirdos here and you’re proving my point. Ironic you want to bring up reading yet I have to break down what was said to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:33 PM
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They are so desperate in trying to normalize women being the breadwinner here. Anything but admitting they are an outlier and women most often seek higher earners than what they are since women date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:25 PM
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Yes ! Whenever I’m in the mood for raging feminist who hate men. It’s perfect.
/r/seduction28/06/25 03:17 PM
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You give and spend to receive intimacy. That’s the only point. What I don’t know is where this expectation of not having to give or spend in a relationship from men such as the one above is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:36 PM
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It’s not about confidence. Being cheap turns off women. Does not work. You can say there are exceptions but I see this and only this consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:33 PM
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Are they serious or is that a troll account. At this point I cannot tell because people seriously say shit like this online.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:21 PM
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If you’re well past college your primary source will be apps in 2025. It’s time to stop pretending it’s some rare phenomenon only the most desperate use. It’s completely normalized now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:18 PM
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Id immediately turn off anyone by the slightest hint of being cheap. At this point I’ve just accepted I’m going to be doing a lot of spending. I suppose this scenario could make you look good in a breaking the rules type of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:03 PM
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Because there is no alternative for many men. This is what most relationships are. You are always expected to give and spend something. Just varying levels. I’ve rarely ever seen a relationship with a woman doing all of the giving and spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:57 PM
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This would equal automatic rejection to me. But glad it works for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:58 PM
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Everything they’ve said sounds undoubtedly as if it were from the female perspective but I guess they did not actually specify.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:21 PM
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Well your fellow blue pilled op says this is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:18 PM
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Waiting for all the blue pillers to come crawling in with the “everyone is in relationships just go outside and see11!1” but the won’t because a woman posted this. Yet let me say anything like this and they’re swarming to say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:47 PM
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So you’re going to chick fila and doing what? Sitting down alone and women approach you? Or approaching women who are out for lunch and doing what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:59 PM
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Since it’s so easy for you what would you do if you decided you wanted to start a new relationship within one month with someone new? With it being this easy I want to hear the few simple steps required.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:24 AM
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Actually read your comment : Way to stereotype all women in one monolithic group. How about if I said "all men are shallow and just use women for sex"? Would that be accurate?! Pointing out that you’re a hypocrite has nothing to do with “whining”. How ironic is it you’re bitching about whining when you just got finished complaining about how another person generalized women. I forgot have to go slow around here. The point is you just got finished crying in another comment about how he generalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:43 PM
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You just complained about stereotyping women into a monolithic group then minutes later start talking about “you men” do this, men do that, responding to a comment generalizing men as dull. The classic it’s ok when we do it but never admit we’re doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:58 PM
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That doesn’t have anything to do with this. You’re pushing this narrative that guys don’t put in effort. Giving one word responses. As if guys that aren’t doing this will magically solve their issues. The problem is the guys that are putting in effort aren’t seeing anything being solved. It’s unlikely that of the hundreds of matches you can’t find one guy to have a conversation with. The point is they are there. You just don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:51 PM
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There are men putting tons of effort to do anything they can to connect with women. They are still getting rejected. Guys being normal and not jumping right into hooking up are getting no response. They know this is not the issue. When you come on here talking about how no men do this as if that’s all they need to do, the men who consistently do this yet still fail will always disagree. I hate these “effort” posts because the same women who applaud me for effort are the same ones who ghost right…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:50 PM
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Sure you’re “tall and attractive”. This worsens your argument. Tall and attractive men think they’re charismatic because of their reactions from women when most of them aren’t. They’re tall and attractive so women call the things basic shit say charismatic. You’re reading the joke literally and saying oh it’s not everything single word they say. Obviously. The point is tall and attractive men would most likely not be considered charismatic by women if they were short and ugly behaving the exact …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:09 PM
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When a man is deemed as attractive suddenly the way he speaks is charismatic. He’s now hilarious also. This is because they have a bias to attribute positive qualities to those they think are attractive. Nothing about this is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:29 PM
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Women aren’t going to admit this of course. Especially here. I don’t expect you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:33 PM
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Yes, they are. If you don’t have the looks threshold nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:48 AM
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The point is you don’t feel lust when looks are not there. If looks aren’t there nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:47 AM
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You’re attributing lust purely to flirting and banter. As if any man can decide that he will be lusted over via flirting and banter. The most attractive men are not the hardest working. They aren’t the most attractive because they’ve worked for it. They have the genetic traits necessary. One without these traits cannot pass them by hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:29 PM
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Because it’s said with hostility, disgust, or malice. What they’ve said is they don’t think you’re worth even being considered to be a part in her life. Not even worth speaking to. Your dirt to her. Naturally it’s going to be upsetting when you’re told this. If you went around and everyone stuck their nose up to you when you tried to interacted with them you’d have the same attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:18 PM
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Charismatic = anything attractive men say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:09 PM
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Of course they do, but they can’t pretend to ignore the importance of looks if they actually admit they have a looks requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:05 PM
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A classic virtue signaling Reddit comment. Completely ignoring anything physical or looks based to pretend any man can be lusted over because he “learned” to flirt and banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:59 PM
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Watching what women do and say in real life instead of believing how random Redditors describe what they do is “in the dark”. Incredible insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:24 AM
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Unfortunately I know exactly what happens in reality. You and others here lying and exaggerating are not going to change what I’ve actually seen and had happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:55 AM
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I guess it’s that time to scream sexism. Women here yes. Their entire point is to prove men wrong. When you talk about how women care about anything remotely superficial such as size or height they will come running to claim the opposite. We already know women prefer taller men and see this in our everyday experiences. Now if you say women care about personality and being a good person they’ll all come to praise you since this makes them look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:34 PM
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To oppose what the man is saying thinking it will help prove him wrong. Trying to protect the image of women by making them appear wholesome and less superficial. Not being aware that they are an outlier or pretending they aren’t. These are just obvious reasons idk every reason why they lie. They would never lie to agree with men. The whole point is to oppose them. The reason it’s virtue signaling is because every disagreement just so happens to be the view which displays women positively as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:14 PM
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Yes. It’s because most of you are lying or exaggerating and we know it. You’re either virtue signaling or using it to oppose what a man is saying. We see what actually happens in real situations and it’s nothing like what Redditors describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:24 PM
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In that case you don’t need to lift or be rich. You just try every woman until you find one desperate enough to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:24 PM
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Yes, attaining one’s desired outcome is the solution. I can lift and be rich yet still be unsuccessful in dating. If they can fail they are not assured strategies. It does not matter if they contributed to your chances if you’ve still failed. Nothing was solved therefore they were not solutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:12 PM
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They are not solutions. Potential benefits are not solutions. You can be the strongest in the gym, increase your income and social skills and still be rejected. Still be called unattractive. You also don’t need any pill to understand these potential benefits. What they can do is break down how cruel female nature is and highlight the problem in great detail. Get rich and get buff is not going to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:36 PM
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I’m not asking you to fix anything. I’m telling you watching a podcast isn’t magic solution to anything. There is no formula. They exist because men want a formula. Not because some podcaster has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:59 PM
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There is no magic formula or solution to any of this. You can watch a million podcasts. It’s not going to fix anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:22 PM
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They exist because men want a formula. They are of the few groups who understand and discuss the problem. They don’t have a realistic solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:12 PM
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You need to have intelligence to deduce that 2 + 2 = 4. Anyone can do it. That doesn’t mean you are intelligent. If you acknowledge that the most intelligent man is not the most attractive, it doesn’t matter if you suggested it or not. It means you understand that being intelligent does not mean you’re attractive or are capable of being attractive. Everyone knows they can slightly improve their chances by improving some controllable aspects. That doesn’t mean you won’t still struggle and will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:01 PM
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You don’t need to be intelligent to know it might improve your chances. That doesn’t mean you won’t still struggle. Understanding that doesn’t mean you’ve solved the issue. The most intelligent man on earth is not the most attractive. There are too many factors beyond his control that determine this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:16 PM
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There is no logic in this. No rules, consistency, or calculations. You can do everything that’s supposedly correct and still be rejected. You can “improve what’s mutable” and get nothing. This is not a formula that guys haven’t figured out because there is no formula. You can’t think your way into attraction. People don’t gain relationships because they’ve schemed some brilliant plan no one else thought of to attract someone who wouldn’t have been attracted otherwise. They have the genetics they…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:32 PM
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As I thought, none of this leads you to desirability as a man. You need to be attractive. You did not mention one thing about looks. If i have friends and interests women are supposed to desire me now? They all seemed to have missed your memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:08 PM
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It’s a guarantee that I have heard this before and know that neither you or the podcast dating coach are going to give me the magic cure to becoming desirable. Please, tell us all the magic secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:53 PM
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It’s just not good advice. We cannot sum up men’s desirability based on whether or not he’s listened to women. Most of it was never a matter of his decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:19 PM
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Men who are not desired are not undesirable due to following other men. Women do not hold some magic cure that men are refusing to use which can make any man desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:46 PM
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Oh right selling drugs is not dangerous or risky… Did you actually just try to make that statement? I’m guessing that’s a joke to give you the benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:43 PM
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They don’t have to be. It’s a random assumption you’ve just added. They are the “cool” guy because he’s doing something dangerous or risky. Somehow that’s attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:26 PM
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The red pill wins again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:34 PM
6

What actions have they done?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:18 PM
3

And what actions have these men done to pursue that makes them superior?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:29 PM
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If these men are bad and women like these men then women like bad men. When you just fuck the most aggressive guy as you and this post encourage, you end up in terrible situations eventually. The negative aspects of this need to be at the forefront of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:45 PM
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You are highlighting their success. The whole comment is framed to paint a positive spin on them. That is praise. It’s not only you women as a whole do this and this op is a demonstration. These men are rewarded by women as they are the ones who get them. I’ve had women tell me how they loved being aggressively grabbed and pulled aside by guys but if guys actually did that as a whole that infatuation would be done quickly. You love aggressive men until the wrong one does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:38 PM
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Keep rewarding and praising the most aggressive men but don’t start complaining when shit goes south talking about how you want to be left alone. When those men you deem unattractive start being aggressive then it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:22 PM
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It clearly is making them more successful and op has demonstrated that. You just don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:19 PM
9

We all deserve romance? That not at all the approach from this sub. I thought we aren’t entitled to shit and the fact that men don’t receive love is praised. Now we deserve love?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:16 PM
2

Being sexier than them doesn’t mean you are sexually arousing. You’re ahead of them at the bottom of the list. You could change your comment to say if you max out all characteristics you can be better than the bottom percentage and it might be accurate, but reality doesn’t sound as great.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:29 PM
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What you wrote was a bunch of virtue signaling bullshit. You said men can “be sexy”. That’s not a choice they make. “If you want to be seen as sexy and sexually arousing, then be sexy and sexually arousing. If you want someone to feel aroused and sexually attracted to you, then be and behave sexily and arousingly.” You don’t decide if your comportment or interactions are found sexy. I can’t just decide that I’m going to be found sexy to any woman I choose when I speak to her because I tried hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:00 PM
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This is not how it works for men. Men are well aware of doing this. I can be the most in shape, best dressed, and cleanest person I can possibly be. That doesn’t mean I arouse women or cause them to find me sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:50 PM
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Men don’t simply decide to be sexy and arousing. You don’t decide who you are sexually arousing to. It’s not a choice. Every man on the plant wants to do this. It’s not that simple. You can spend your entire life trying to do so and still be called unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:41 PM
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It doesn’t have to be just money. Status, popularity, clout, more attractive. Once she sees another who has more she’s gone in one swipe and she forgets you exist. It doesn’t have to be an exact percentage. Men who are dating in 2025 and focused on female nature will most likely come across this eventually. Unfortunately it’s prevalent behavior. The red pill is just the place to discuss it and find ways to overcome these issues, which they probably won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:36 PM
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Im not one to also shame the use of someone’s past to judge their capability of having a relationship so I don’t need to. I’m also not definitely calling it weak. If a guy has a loving wife and still does then it could be. If there is a guy who is totally void of intimacy despite his best efforts then it’s perfectly fine to consider it as everyone eventually needs some type of romantic intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:18 PM
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It doesn’t matter if you don’t like that he brought this up. He’s right. This is what accountability is. If you judge men to be weak because of their past decisions you also support men judging woman to be weak and poor partners for being promiscuous in their past. That’s if you weren’t biased or a hypocrite. Instead of addressing this you make excuses to run from it. That’s not what accountability is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:12 PM
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The irony that you of everyone on this thread asking about being stupid is beyond me. Calling you out for being a fake and a hypocrite is “whining”? No, it’s the truth and you’re terribly upset by it. What you don’t understand is that poster and men are not going around telling everyone it’s wrong to judge others in dating based on their past while it’s suddenly acceptable when they want to do it as you and other women will. Instead of accepting that women shouldn’t shame men for doing the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:38 PM
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This is why you all are known for avoiding accountability. You preach it’s not acceptable for men to judge you by your past then proceed to judge men by theirs. The acceptable answer here is for you to admit that’s it’s acceptable for men to judge based on past partners since you are doing the same. But you’re not and you won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:13 PM
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It’s so simple yet look at this thread. Nothing but women doing anything but this. Cannot find one comment of them admitting or acknowledging that yes dating is easy compared to men. It’s the opposite. The conversation will never move forward due to this greed and ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 01:58 PM
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No shit. You still don’t get the point. If someone frequented strip clubs or any type of behavior that’s not acceptable in a relationship, you wouldn’t expect that to continue once you’ve entered a relationship. You’d expect it to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:46 PM
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They wouldn’t have known in the first place. Which is why she’s admitted she’d leave once she learned this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:30 PM
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I love how every woman on this post is suddenly pretending to be fine with their husbands going to a strip club just out of spite. Then your husband’s behavior while single is exactly what it will be when you’re together. There will be no expectation for anything to change. If he went to the club to approach and asked women for their number while single he does not need to change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:33 PM
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So he cannot have done anything in the past that you don’t like. Even if he stops when with you it does not matter because he enjoyed it. Your husband has never once done anything you don’t like and has never before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:53 PM
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And your relationships wouldn’t end if you simply communicated. But you think being single is a flex. Go through a ton of guys finding any petty reason to break up instead of simply communicating what you want him to do. Great decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:39 PM
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Well I guess that’s the benefit of being a top their man who reached such high standards. You can go to the strip club with no complaints from the wife. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:30 PM
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You didn’t clarify anything because this logic doesn’t work. I’m sure now you’re going to say you’d never date a man who’s stepped foot inside a strip club in the past so this can’t possibly apply. Your husband enjoyed sleeping with his ex. I’m 100% sure you expected that to stop once you started dating him. He probably went to bars and hit on women. You expected him to stop this once in a relationship with you. You don’t know everything about someone before dating them. There are going to be th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:21 PM
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Why would you break up and destroy a relationship by inviting him to do this instead of simply communicating to him that you don’t want him to do it? He could easily agree and never do it again as he’s with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:08 PM
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A regular club is a sexualized environment, nearly every guy in there is looking to find someone to hookup with and it’s filled with women dressed proactively. So if your husband starts going to the strip club every week you don’t have an issue because you’re not insecure and you trust him right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:04 PM
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Ok then your husband is clear to go to the strip club whenever he wants. As long as he doesn’t get dances with them. You’re ok with this because you trust him so everything is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:00 PM
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Then you’re not comfortable with him doing that. The same way men aren’t comfortable with their partner dressing provocatively and going to clubs. Yet this is called insecure or controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:57 PM
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So you’re saying it’s acceptable to expect people to change once they’re in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:49 PM
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So if a man or your husband loved going to the strip club and getting a lap dance that doesn’t magically stop because he’s in a relationship right? He still enjoys the music, the dancing, being with his friends. It was a part of his life. You either trust him or you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:36 PM
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So your husband is allowed to go to the strip club whenever he wants right? You’re not insecure and you trust him not to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:33 PM
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To him and other men who’ve experienced this treatment women are that way. Why would he care if there are women somewhere that are different if he doesn’t know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:10 AM
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Read over the comment again. That’s not at all what I said and you’re creating a fake narrative to setup the classic “not all women”. I just said that post is much closer to what I’ve seen in reality than what women would try to sell me of how they behave in a relationship. If all the women a guys been a relationship with act this way that’s what he’s experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:02 AM
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And how is someone describing their experience vilifying anyone? You can’t really say what’s on the grand scale. Relationships are designed for women to have the leverage and get what they want. It’s not designed to please or serve the man. It’s designed as women being the prize while men compete for who can offer her the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:24 AM
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This is not a sound excuse. You can’t dispel any statement because it does not apply to 100% of every woman on the planet. There are clear circumstances such as cheating where you will know what a woman truly feels about you. Her actions tell you. Not words. The point is not that no man or woman at all ever is capable of love. The point is that experience is far closer to reality to me than whatever sugar coated examples of how women love you or other women here would give me. People are calling…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:06 AM
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Me embarrassing you isn’t emotional. Try having sound logic and it wouldn’t happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:20 PM
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She just told me what is reality after I just told her I have lived the opposite. That’s exactly what she’s just done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:18 PM
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How sad this trend is. Spamming anything you don’t like as “whining”. When people want to say shit like this to me I’m going to correct them. I don’t give a fuck what you have to say about it. It’s a post put up for discussion yet you are crying that all of the comments aren’t kissing women’s ass like you want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:11 PM
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Who tf are you to tell anyone what reality is? You will never speak for me. No post will have 100% accuracy of every single word. You need to be able to summarize what’s being said and understand the general idea being conveyed. Not create some bullshit quote and nitpick it as being fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:39 PM
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I can tell you my experiences are far more closely related to that post than what you would describe a relationships as. You’re looking at the post as being vilified and I’m looking at the post as reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:55 PM
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That’s exactly what you did and is all you’re looking to do. You’re purposely pretending that they’ve done nothing to deserve or create any hostility as if they have done no wrong. You can’t wait to point out how it makes sense for women not to give a shit about men but intentionally ignore why it makes sense to be hostile to a group that hostile and disrespectful to them. Men don’t want women to fix their problems. Women are the only ones capable of being the other half of relationships. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:55 AM
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Because men can’t provide intimacy for other straight men. If you remove all intimacy from a man for years at a time he’s going to be hostile and frustrated. Especially to that same group degrading and taunting them. Constantly reminding them they don’t deserve it and aren’t good enough out of spite. These aren’t the innocent angels you portray them as. They have just as much a part of this as any man does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:54 PM
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I don’t know where that term originated but it’s not one I would approve of using exactly for this reason. It gives an escape route for people to down play it as an issue for relationships with other men to fix which usually can’t be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:39 PM
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It is the lack of romance. This is exactly what’s meant with the term male loneliness and if you replace loneliness with romance this topic will start to make sense. It’s just not explicitly said. It’s the romance and intimacy that have been lost. That’s why this issue revolves around women. They are the only way romance and intimacy can be solved for straight men. Men aren’t out here saying they want more male friends. You can try to hide your pain in male friends, but when the night ends you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:44 PM
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This is exactly where we are headed. It goes further than that. Why even talk to men for free? Why even let them look at you for free? Every aspect of intimacy is being monetized. They don’t need to use relationships to extract resources from men anymore. It can be done online without having to actually see them. Sex isn’t even required and can be avoided now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:27 PM
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Defending other women only because they are women. No matter how obviously in the wrong they are. As we see on this sub daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:44 PM
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You can justify it however you’d like. At least you admit that this is said, which is more than when she was willing to do. Men’s attraction is pretty universal so that question is much easier to answer. But doubt many would ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:28 PM
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I don’t know. I’m trying to figure out the same thing. Apparently these bad men have good personalities that are fun to be around because a good personality doesn’t involve being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:53 PM
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How ironic. Yet another who’s done exactly what I said they would. You’ve just made an entire post about how it’s so obvious women are choosing strong handsome men yet you’ve now completely backtracked to claim women don’t reject men because of their physical appearance. And you talk about being dumb… That’s hilarious. You can look at a man and know if he’s strong and handsome within 2 seconds. YOU are the reason men believe they can still win and get the woman of their dreams despite being that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:35 PM
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Actually claiming to already be in a relationship is a far more common rejection. Women are not confrontational enough to be saying this to men and type is not narrowed to physical appearance only. Again. The next time men speak of their failure to relationship find a relationship I fully expect you to point out thier physical appearance of being the main reason and not defaulting to claiming personality which nearly every women does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:11 PM
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Because this is the opportunity women and even some men love to use to push the exact narrative you say you can’t understand men believe. When men say they’re rejected or failing to secure a relationship women will never flat out say it’s because they’re physically unattractive and they aren’t the strong handsome men that women want. You won’t even agree to say it right now. It’s directly relevant because they’ll say it’s because of his personality and that unattractive men can still get relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:59 PM
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They flip depending on the topic. On this post it’s: so obvious women want physically attractive men. On others it’s: women love personality and their 5’2 fat ugly friend has no problem with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:44 PM
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Great. The next time men speak of being rejected be sure to tell them it’s because of their physical appearance and genetic traits without blaming their personality as everyone loves to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:40 PM
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All over this sub and Reddit in general. That’s the exact point I’ve brought up before. That telling men to just be a good person is exactly what creates nice guys. If they actually listen to this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:02 PM
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That is why I will say it’s not valid advice when it’s constantly repeated everywhere as a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:50 PM
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They do say this and blatantly. You’re defending useless generic advice of “be kind” instead of holding them accountable for virtue signaling. You’re using feminist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:23 PM
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You missed the point. Being a nice person is included in the package of “personality”. It’s not separated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:19 PM
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You didn’t because the answer is no. Its accepted that being a good person is also a part of having that so called “personality” and when it’s told to men that they don’t have this personality it’s also claiming they aren’t a good person which comes with it. Plenty of men who are assholes can still get women. So it’s not a requirement. Yes men need to be physically attractive. Yet if I say this I’ll get endless shit for it and hear about how ugly men can easily get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:18 PM
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So talking to and being out with complete assholes who are rude disgusting people is fun and enjoyable for you to be around? You find men who are not nice, polite, and are bad people more attractive because they have a great personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:04 PM
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Then these shouldn’t be championed as a solution as they are here. I shouldn’t be hearing about how the 5’3 fat guy has no issues with women because he’s got a great personality and is a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:50 PM
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You don’t know much about this sub then. It’s said constantly. I’ve brought up the point of needing to be physically attractive endlessly here and continuously get bullshit about how ugly people still find relationships and countless excuses. Yet when this post comes up they’re all quiet and have nothing to say. When they start with the just be a good person trope those here are nowhere to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:45 PM
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I just saw that exact line here recently. I guess you’ve never heard “just treat women as people” either. It’s so frequently defended here that women simply want good and nice guys. And they are never questioned by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:36 PM
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Women literally say “just be nice to us” “just be a good person” to men about how they can attract women. Implying that men who can’t find a relationship aren’t. That’s if they’re not flat out saying men are single because they are shitty people. They are all quiet now when this type of post comes up. And when they say this you and anyone who’s saying it’s so obvious this isn’t true are nowhere to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:17 PM
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Not going as far as that other guy because sex work serves a purpose and has value but one issue is they are doing half assed sex work (no pun intended). They usually aren’t physically interacting with men and most likely providing lazy solo content they made in 10 minutes. They don’t go through what others in their industry do and provide worse quality yet want all the same glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:46 PM
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That’s why meaner isn’t the right comparison. Attractive men may not be meaner to those same women who pamper and praise them. But they aren’t going to value them when they have multiple options and will be the ones to use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:58 PM
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Verbally to who if they have no options?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:44 PM
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Probably not meaner. They won’t value or care about you as much since you are one of many options to them. They don’t need to put effort in to keep you around when they have others waiting to replace you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:00 PM
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“I don’t care about height at all. I just happens my husband is 6’5 and had the kind personality I’m looking for!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:06 PM
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Every man would probably love to do that. No one wants to swipe on apps and approach strangers but if your social circle is not leading to more women there’s no other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:32 PM
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That’s what men try to find their whole lives. There are limited ways to get that and if a man has it he protects it. There isn’t always a source of single women available to you as a man who are also interested and won’t reject you. So, many will only have cold approach and apps during long stretches of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:04 PM
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I could do that and that would involve me approaching women and not women approaching me. If women simply approached me to flirt every time I went out and was social I’d be out every single day. Unfortunately that’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:29 PM
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So you’ve approached multiple men to flirt with them as you defined approaching to mean and to ask for a relationship as the op mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:21 PM
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Yes that means you have to approach her to do this. This in no way means women approach men simply because they have a social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:00 PM
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That involves you approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:27 PM
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Yes with other men and women who are not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:02 PM
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It’s not the frustration of being approached. It’s who they’re approached by. Women are insulted that the ugliest fattest guy in the bar thought he had a chance with her. She’s now just been seen and associated with him. You’ve left this part out. This is an issue before it even gets to rejection which is a whole separate issue. If the attractive guy approaches none of this is an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:01 PM
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It really is for many men. You can approach at a bar or get on an app. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:56 PM
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Having a social life doesn’t guarantee women approach you. You still have to approach them unless you’re highly attractive or have high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:53 PM
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When it’s a man who is deemed unattractive yes they are frustrated and upset that he’s approached her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:46 PM
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Then his solution is gone. What does treading lightly solve if a woman’s deemed a man as unattractive? You could have possibly avoided an awkward situation but does that get to the end goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:14 AM
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He’s selling being sexually assertive as a solution to dating struggles. If all I’m getting out of it is an awkward moment my problem isn’t solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:09 AM
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You say that because you are in a position of power. If women encounter a gendered issue then men who are unaffected by say that’s just the way it is it’s not going to be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:22 PM
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I don’t see what this solves. If a man is sexual and assertive towards a woman who thinks he’s unattractive what happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:20 PM
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In what way is this better or positive for men or introverts? Men do the approaching so you meeting your husband is not exactly applicable to men. Women are more open to a stranger in person than online?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:15 PM
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If they are convenient and easier for introverts in what way is in person better?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 09:51 PM
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I’m noticing the women saying they don’t know any men who can’t get a relationship when they want one. That’s who I responded to. That’s who this applies to. Women without male friends aren’t saying this. They don’t have male friends. If women only allow men who are successful in relationships in their circle that’s what they will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:31 PM
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There is no idea that men don’t have friends here. This is what only you have brought up. Women exclusively decide who is in their social circles and dominate them. When women say everyone they know is getting married they’ve only allowed the successful men in their circles to see. Men who aren’t popular with women aren’t acknowledged or allowed in and assumed as wanting to be singe. This does not mean men cannot have circles. They will usually be with other men and their frustrations and strugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:10 PM
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Women create the circle and decide what men are included. Women hold the power and leverage as they are who men need for relationships. Decent looking women are allowed in any social circle they want to be in they don’t force anything. I’m not proposing they do anything. I’m opposing this notion that any guy can get a wife when he wants one because women supposedly only know men like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:40 PM
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“Women are not a monolith” yet they are demanding men “become desirable” as if there is some universally approved definition that all men can just decide to become.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:15 PM
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Exactly. They tried to play this off by implying attractive men are well represented when women find most men unattractive and place them in that category. The reality of what she said was the small percentage of attractive men are still dating. A large percentage of unattractive men are unhappy. Which doesn’t even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:57 PM
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Women are typically the ones who give this answer. You know zero men who cannot get a relationship on demand whenever they want one. There are definitely plenty of men who are struggling to find someone as the op pointed out. You don’t know them. You don’t see them. They aren’t allowed in your circle. They aren’t posting on IG. Harvard graduates will probably tell you they don’t know anyone who is poor. When there are hard working men failing who are the opposite of what you say your brother is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:41 PM
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Why are you under the impression that high levels of physical fitness equals attractiveness? Also this categorizes everyone who is lonely or bitter as out of shape and doing nothing. I’d imagine anyone who’s out of shape and doing nothing does not care enough to be lonely and bitter. They aren’t concerned enough to even worry about any of this. Who’s going to be bitter is the one who spends all day improving and working to be and stay fit yet still fails and is told they are not enough after all…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:52 PM
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He could’ve easily brought up his point without trying to flex. People like that aren’t doing much dating either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:44 PM
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“Look at me. I went on a second date and you can’t!” This type of shit has to be said in Reddit because it will be laughed at anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:41 PM
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Who are you to tell anyone that? Women expect men to do the planning majority of the time regardless of how hard they work. I don’t need to text anyone to tell me anything because I don’t need validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:25 PM
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We’ve got a real genius here. You can’t even comprehend what the actual question is. That’s why you’re being embarrassed in the comments which clearly is a regular occurrence for you. He just told you the burden is on the men to invite, plan, and pay majority of the time which is not equal. They do it more even if women do it on occasion. You thought your irrelevant second date line was a flex. You also don’t understand women if you don’t realize that “that we should go on another date” means yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:06 PM
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I don’t see “first” in either his comment or the op. I only see that you brought this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:50 PM
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You were really sitting there waiting to throw this insult at whoever you could find and forced it on a comment it didn’t belong on. He made the point that the burden is on men to plan, schedule, and invite. He is correct. Second dates were never mentioned nor are they relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:39 PM
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You can literally ask google “is the number of single women increasing” and every article including ai answers will tell you Yes. You can’t avoid this by claiming you think women who are not married are all in relationships. This doesn’t even account for only attractive women as you’ve brought up. But none of that is even relevant. I said a 5 can get a 5 if she has other disqualifying personality issues. He’s getting looks only. He will generally have to date down in looks to get the full packag…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:17 PM
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And this is according to what? Your opinion? Do you not realize attractive women can still date up? Who do you think the rich and high status men are dating? This makes your opinion of a surplus of single women irrelevant. This is without mentioning the growing number of single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:48 PM
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A 5 can get another 5 if she’s has the personality issues, disagreeable, high number of previous partners, bitter feminist attitude, bad fitness habits, etc. He’s getting looks only. The top percentage of men won’t want to put up with that. Men will generally have to date down in looks to get the full package. When this generic baseless advice like get a haircut or shower and use cologne is given it’s not going to attract good looking women to men who are already having difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:39 PM
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Lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:55 PM
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We all know the answer to this. They aren’t going to say it..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:49 PM
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The problem is that doing this does not make him become sexy as the posts title suggests. It’s not that there isn’t a valid reason it’s just not a full solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:46 PM
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He was so incredibly amazing yet you left him. Doesn’t sound like he was that amazing at all. Sounds like it’s very possible women would entertain more attractive men while in a relationship with a not so amazing guy she’s on the verge of eventually leaving anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:11 PM
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So there’s no such thing as divorce or breakups since you’ve gotten everything you could ask for in a relationship. According to the women on this sub you don’t settle and you all describe your man as a god that has no flaw and can never be replaced. There is no man on earth better than him. Any other situation is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 06:29 PM
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The half the population trope doesn’t work. Majority of these women are unavailable to be in your dating pool and the few that are you probably won’t encounter most if them in an appropriate setting to be introduced. The ones you do meet most likely aren’t interested due to high standards that you have no control over. Men do not have this giant pool to pick whoever they want out of. Aggressive dominant and dangerous men are rewarded by women. Passive gentle and kind men are ignored and are bori…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:10 PM
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What on this list isn’t common? Other than them being described at a high level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 02:22 PM
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These are all very common standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:47 PM
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Every one of his points have merit. They are just capped at too high of an expectation. Every point is valid and expected from women. Theres not one item on this list you can say isn’t relevant. They just need more accurate descriptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:24 PM
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You do understand men cannot just be a decent person and watch women come flooding in to cold approach them right? That’s not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 12:53 PM
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I’m not concerned with what party is winning. I’m watching the growing issue of frustration with dating. This is just one side effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:46 PM
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They’re probably not losing support from these people but there are more and more men joining this group.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:16 PM
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That’s the thing there really isn’t any real benefit to men here. You closest you may get is more anti dei and anti woke agendas. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:14 PM
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And listening to you would grant success?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:31 PM
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Why don’t you tell us since how to flirt then if it’s that important. You can solve everyone’s issue right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:01 PM
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Can we buy charisma upgrades from temu now? Why do people here treat humor and charisma as a learned skill? Some people are funny some are not. Someone like Dave Chappell isn’t a comedian because he has a masters in comedy. That’s naturally who he is. Also charisma and comedy are not universal. The people I think are funny or charismatic will not be the same ones you think are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:21 PM
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Bbbut all the short and fat man I know have no problems with women!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:17 PM
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You couldn’t wait to say that. I know men don’t do this and I’ve just said most women don’t either. Most people don’t have such a lack of interest in intimacy that they voluntarily go years without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:55 PM
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I don’t know but you are acting as if you are, which is why I said “unless you are asexual”. That means you can answer if you are. I rarely if ever see women go years with no dating or romantic contact. People who are not asexual don’t voluntarily go years with no intimacy or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:56 PM
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I’m sorry but that’s highly unlikely unless you are asexual or something. You were just that undesirable that no men dated you for years at a time and you felt no desire to interact romantically during those periods?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:14 PM
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Food is used to satisfy hunger. So can I tell you to just only eat bread and drink water everyday?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:23 PM
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Why talk to human beings when you could talk to ai? Why go to a restaurant when you could eat bread and water everyday?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:33 PM
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To answer this you would need to learn what it feels like to actually be alone and then experience this for a prolonged period of time over years. Not a few months of flirting with various flings in between relationships. This isn’t defined as the wrong person. It’s someone who gave you a chance that you’re trying to make the best of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:15 PM
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Neither one of them give a shit about helping or encouraging men as you’re suggesting. You’re not going to play this off as a political blame. Progressives, specifically feminists, just lost a large group of men’s support from their hostility towards them. That’s just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:15 AM
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I’m not giving advice. I’m out constantly. Which is why I can call out how bullshit this is. But you don’t need to step outside to understand women want attractive men. It’s literally common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:06 AM
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If you can’t understand that looks are most important in attraction and women don’t want to date ugly men there is no discussion to have. I’m not debating that women don’t want to date ugly men. There is not a more basic obvious fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:28 PM
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Progressives are the main ones I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:19 PM
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You just said them pretending to be outgoing is lying. If you’ve told that to non social men that is pretending to be someone they aren’t by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:17 PM
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It doesn’t matter to men. If he’s being true to who he is here he’s failing. How many times have you or others told guys to just go outside? Just be social. Just get a social circle. If any you’ve told any man who’s introverted this you’ve told him to lie. He has to lie to win or face being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:23 PM
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Normal humans are capable of giving bad advice. I don’t see this sentiment of women wanting men to be happy. Their response to issues is suck it up. Toughen up. This is not what I think this is what I’ve received and I’m here to discuss it. Your claimed experience is equivalent of a fantasy to me. I can’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 10:18 PM
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Reality is concerning. Not for you but for me. I’m here to study and evaluate reality and that must be done in generalities when there are not specific situations included.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:28 PM
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If I’m giving everything I can in doing my best then their opinion of what they deem me or anyone else holds no value. Their opinion does not determine my success. It’s not the advice I’m talking about determining this or being accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:25 PM
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That’s not what the advice is. It’s to be who you are. Theres no mention of honesty and integrity. That can be general advice but if it doesn’t lead to attracting women then it’s not useful to solve the dating issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:18 PM
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They can also deem men who are being the best they can be unworthy mates also. They deem whatever they want regardless of logic. So what value does this even have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:05 PM
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I’m not talking about this. Where does women’s opinion of who’s an unworthy mate that you mentioned come into play with any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:04 PM
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Those who see through the bullshit and be the best they can be can still be rejected. This isn’t accounted for in the comment. At that point they’ve gotten the same rejection treatment as the loser. You’re letting women’s opinion of who passes as a worthy mate determine whether the man is a schlubby loser or a man who is his best version.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:43 PM
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This doesn’t add up. If a woman deems you as an unworthy mate that makes you a schlubby loser? Those who see through the bullshit and be the best they can be can’t be rejected as an unworthy mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:33 PM
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Couple problems here. Women don’t admit to giving bad advice if it has worked for them. They just do it and then claim they never did or try to excuse the times they did as being justified. Either they don’t know it’s wrong or won’t admit it so this discussion won’t go far. Also their goal usually isn’t to help. It’s basically to get men to think they have an answer so they stop talking about it and being angry to make these women feel more comfortable and safe. Of course this is short term and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:23 PM
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Now we’ve gone from claiming lie to false. Interesting how you’ve changed course. Let’s copy and paste exactly what the discussion actually was since you can’t grasp the concept and want to add random garbage to it. “Yes it’s delusional to dare say women are attracted to physically attractive men and physical attraction is based on genetics. What an insane idea…” “The discussion is about women and how genetics determine physical attractiveness and confidence which women are attracted to”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:52 PM
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No one is ok with this. Men just get to a point where they don’t give a shit anymore after the toll of extended periods of romantic isolation start to break you down. The societal pressure of others being in relationships while everyone has no time for single activities add to it. Men are going to fold and sometimes women will give them a chance because they feel the same pressures although not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:43 PM
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Nothing said here was a lie. Nothing was said here about giving it up. We’re calling reality what it is. You clearly are not keeping up with the discussion and just came in to run your mouth about men with no end goal in sight. Confidence is developed by positive experiences which physically attractive people have more often by default which is a good point brought up to discuss. That’s why it’s called a fucking discussion which you clearly have no intentions on contributing to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:28 PM
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Yes it’s delusional to dare say women are attracted to physically attractive men and physical attraction is based on genetics. What an insane idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:53 PM
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I’m getting tired of being fed bullshit about how women love ugly men. Just listen to how that even sounds. Ugly men get fat women and average women if they compensate with money and clout. I’ve never once in my fucking life seen an attractive woman at a club party or any situation go out looking for and hooking up with ugly men. It is extremely rare to see fat pimple face nerds pulling the most attractive women. What’s actually happening here is you are probably applying ugly to any man who’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:43 PM
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Sadly we can’t even make it to that discussion. Theres already a reply to me right under this comment about how you are false and looks aren’t important. We can’t get to the fact of genetics determining looks because they cant admit that looks determine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:30 PM
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Looks are the most important component of dating and attraction. Then social status. Then money. Women want to date physically attractive men. This is something you’ve just said is false….. Ugly men don’t “date around”. This is Reddit fantasy. They happen to be in the right place at the right time and hold on to any relationship they get as tight as they can because they know how difficult it’ll be to get another. And this will be with an overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:25 PM
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Blue pilled are terrified of this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:35 PM
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Right bullies are soo attractive, until they bully you. Don’t throw in the hero who stands up to bullies as if there is some moral standing behind this. Very slick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:27 PM
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What changed is your comment because you’ve now edited it to quote the entire thing. Women are attracted to these “confident” (more like arrogant) men regardless of character. You don’t get to long term relationships if she isn’t attracted to you in the first place. The idea is that men know there are good natured attractive men. They aren’t attractive because they are good natured. It’s completely optional yet it’s pushed as essential.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:24 PM
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“And women are attracted to self-assured, sociable, charismatic, bold, non-neurotic, etc. men despite some of them being allegedly “bad.” She’s not necessarily seeking “bad men.” She’s seeking the bolded. Many good men have the bolded traits too.” Yes, she wants these traits despite them being good or bad. Why are you now changing to add having good or bad character is more important? You’ve previously shown you understand this has little of any importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:59 PM
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So bullies are more attractive. Women marry date reward and spend their time with the most attractive men. That’s even worse. Women date who they think are the best men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:42 PM
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Not looking through comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:30 PM
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The real idea here is that women reward “confident” and physically attractive men regardless of if they are good natured or not. It’s that being good natured doesn’t mean shit despite women pushing the idea that they care so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:01 PM
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Women here defending bullies tells you all you need to know. They are “confident” so they are better people. Morals means jack shit. The “new world” lmaooo. This “adapting” line is bullshit and can’t even be defined. More ways to pass on accountability to someone else. Again you’ve jumped to the point of what’s done when already in a relationship. The point of this is issue not being able to get in a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:45 PM
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I see this exactly in your example. You said you were a light drinker. He could have picked up on this and said we can go to the bar but I won’t order any alcohol. He heard you he understood and adapted. Yet this is not “EQ” or acceptable to you because you wanted him to cancel the bar altogether. This was picked up on but because it wasn’t responded to in a way that you wanted there is no “EQ”. There is clear discrepancy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:41 PM
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This is not an argument of who you think is disgusting. It’s that this list is not a universal and definitive set of standards with objective answers. It’s being played off as just do laundry where the specifics are much more detailed and ridged than that. If a man does any of these items but it’s not in the way that woman detailed it to be done then it doesn’t count. The ridged details are omitted here. That goes for every item on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:26 PM
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This is exactly what I’m talking about and why EQ is a fluid concept with many unique definitions. You said you simply want a man who initiates and communicates. You had that. We can’t use this one definition. He didn’t initiate what you wanted him to how you wanted him to so the fact he initiated does not matter. There is very much a discrepancy of how it’s done.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:19 PM
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And there you go. The perfect example. The man isn’t incompetent and does do his laundry. He doesn’t do it the way YOU want him to therefore you will call this wrong. That’s one of the many unspoken parts of this list.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:13 PM
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EQ is whatever that individual wants it to mean. There is no actual definition for it. You’re saying initiates and communicates. Initiates and communicates what? He can initiate plenty of things but it only matters that he initiates what you want him to when you want him to and how you want him to. Same for #3. A man can do laundry every month and be fine but if you want it done every week then it’s now wrong. He was never struggling or incompetent yet still did not pass your bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:50 PM
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I find this funny because I don’t think I’ve ever heard a woman mention an etf or express any interest in them outside of Reddit which I would love to hear. Couldn’t think of something they’d be less interested in. They want spenders who go on trips go out to eat and are constantly doing something. I’ve been told savers, stability, and other things of this nature are boring. The disconnect here is that I could clean up thoroughly, be a 5/10 or do any of this stuff mentioned yet still be rejected…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:39 PM
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There are plenty of people who do these perfectly fine for them but they don’t do it the way l you want them to or certain women want them to so it’s assumed to be wrong. This list is so simplified and there’s so much at play here that’s not mentioned in the existing items. Then the list should also be 3x+ its size to list the unspoken requirements that are actually there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:29 PM
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So most men look like trolls and are under 5/10 looks? Men are confident and you don’t like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:25 PM
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I’m guessing this is a troll post? At this rate you basically will date any guy who asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:02 PM
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Nothing you’ve just mentioned means anything until the physical attraction is there. Physical attraction is the most important part of attraction. Without it they could care less about what you say or how you act.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:52 AM
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I’m not even fully opposed to that. But this assumes women are lining up to befriend me. They aren’t. They’re typically cold and closed off for anything past a brief small talk that I’d have to initiate 90% of the time. It’s not as simple as be nice and treat me as a human being and become friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:39 AM
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You don’t seem like the type to be out all night with awkward red pill guys who struggle with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:54 PM
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For me absolutely. This is said as if women are down to befriend any guy who asks. You need to pass women’s bar for acceptance the same way you do for relationships. Male friends are one thing. I meet guys all the time. Women are usually not open to getting close to. Particularly with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:34 PM
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What is gained out of this post? Don’t be like everyone else. Don’t play it safe. Stand out and pull. I mean yeah we know that. What have you done to stand out? What is not playing it safe? What’s different about you? I don’t have any details or examples of what you’re talking about and I don’t know what you’re thinking when saying this.
/r/seduction17/03/25 11:18 PM
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So you’d be willing to befriend these men and attend their plans?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:54 PM
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There is a clear defined answer to losing weight. You can diet and exercise. People don’t need to do much to know what needs to be done. There is no clear path to being attractive and getting women. You can’t tell men just do it when there is no clear understanding of what’s needed. The issue that’s brought up here is that when you tell guys to just do it it’s not helping. Having an unclear path to the goal is what drives men to these podcasts and content which are of the few places that give an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:51 PM
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We’ve got to stop downplaying the importance of physical attraction. You’ve gone right into the looks don’t matter camp. This is ALL about being desirable. If you don’t fix that you don’t reach men and you don’t solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:37 PM
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There are men like this that do nothing, or the ones who lean on “personality” to solve their issues. They may benefit from hearing this. But I can’t say that this is the sole reason for everyone’s failure. There are plenty of men who have made these sacrifices. Who have put in the work and are not some slob. Yet they still come out as “unattractive”.
/r/seduction28/02/25 08:51 PM
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Ive seen so much blue pilled bullshit about how all you need to do is be in shape lately I forgot that was even a red pill talking point. Women claiming they’ve never seen a ripped guy without attention from attractive woman. It’s normally people who don’t know shit about fitness or lifting who say this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:07 PM
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Exactly why the “just lift bro” blanket advice has become useless. It’s for specific men who already have other characteristics to start with. Blue pill tries to sell gym + shower = matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:17 PM
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Chances are if they aren’t getting female attention they aren’t their type and no amount of effort will change that. This is a just world fallacy to think effort = female attention. The men who are deemed her type or attractive can then fight it out for her based on effort. If you are not in this group to begin with you aren’t getting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:48 PM
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If a man is not your type we’ve now established that he’s not going to effort his way into being your type. If you put in the effort you SHOULD get some attention. In a just world yes. The world is not fair and that’s not actually how it works. There is no guarantee that you will receive female attention from this. And when men are told they should receive female attention for effort as you’ve just told me, they are naturally going to be frustrated and vent once they realize it’s not played out …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:30 PM
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I don’t need to do anything. I’m fully aware of the situation and have broken it down so even you could understand. You had no point to begin with and you’re just talking just to talk. You’ve proven nothing. You’re talking about how obvious it is women go for the top 10 percent yet you have women here constantly disputing this which is why I had to explain in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:18 PM
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So majority of men are all attractive to you if they simply put in effort? You’re rejecting men only because of their effort? A haircut and wardrobe is all that’s needed and they can be with you right? You’ve completely ignored that any uncontrollable factors have made your decision of if a man is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:17 PM
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I answered a question. If you can’t handle that answer I can’t help you. It you’re husband was sleeping with IG models and came to you for stability once he was done since they didn’t want a relationship with him it would be upsetting. Men work through and accept this. That doesn’t mean it’s not upsetting and it may need to be explained to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:11 PM
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We’re at the cringe point where you’re celebrating “natural selection baby” like you won something. Like you’ve done something. A worsening gender divide is a negative for everyone. Yet it’s pushed a fueled by those like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:54 PM
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This always comes back to the same answer from all of you. You all have the same just world fallacy that men can’t possibly put effort into working on all of the categories and still be rejected. You have to maintain this worldview that any man’s failure with women is due to his actions and never to uncontrollable factors. Now you can blame men and have zero responsibility of the outcome. When a man does everything he’s supposed to do and still comes up short he has every right to be frustrated …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:30 PM
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This is what you wanted to know.. It doesn’t sound like you are handling this well. Average men aren’t invited because the fun happens with those top guys. Once the fun is over you might get a chance because you offer stability. I’m explaining the situation that happens, not asking if I should be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:10 PM
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I’m not I’m only explaining why being in that situation is upsetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:04 PM
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When you’re in a relationship with one who has been made their way through the “top” guys it’s upsetting. It’s going to feel like everyone once those stories start rolling in. When the party you weren’t invited to is over then you get a chance. But with a strict set of rules that now apply that no one else had to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:59 PM
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Because more often than not that is what happened. She wanted to know why it’s upsetting and that is what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:49 PM
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They’ve been with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:44 PM
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When everyone else has already experienced your wife and she’s already given what you thought was special to them, it’s not so special anymore. It’s upsetting. Idk why settling is a huge issue everyone settles in some way, no spouse is perfect. But knowing she’s with you only because the top percentage of men didn’t want her is going to hurt always.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:20 PM
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I already saw exactly what you wrote. It’s to believe them before seeing their actions. It’s to believe thier words at face value without them having to demonstrate they’re trustworthy. If you read what I wrote I said I do want to look at their actions. I don’t give trust before I know them as an individual as you’re declaring others should. They haven’t made any actions yet so they receive zero trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:16 PM
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I don’t see men with the urge to hide their preferences on a mass scale. They just don’t have the need to appear less shallow or kind. I don’t even know what point they would downplay. It’s just not common and a more well known theme with women. Men would need to lie more about their incomes, height, size or body count than their preferences which hold low importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:01 PM
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You are part of that group until proven otherwise. The only reason it’s a group is because of men exclusively dating women. I get the same line from every liar. To just believe them, instead of proving why I should believe them by actions. This is not a baseless assumption it’s proven based on experience and repetition and something I need to protect against.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:42 PM
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Because that’s what this post is about and this isn’t really an issue with men. They will easily admit they value physical appearance above all. Women aren’t generally confused about what men want and don’t get mixed messages about what they value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:36 PM
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It may be intentional due due not being aware it may not. What difference would that make for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:06 PM
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This comment is another perfect example of trying to preserve women’s moral code by insinuating they cannot possibly be proven to have any shallow tendencies. Anything but admitting they find these physical traits attractive. You can simply watch their actions. You’ll see they magically pursue and date all of these men who have the qualities they don’t care about. It’s totally just a coincidence though right? Her husband and her exes who happened to be around 6ft also had great personalities. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:53 PM
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You cannot just accept everything you hear at face value. People can and will lie to you and when you accept and believe everything you’re told you are too easy to use and manipulate. This is not even a scenario of just assuming they lied without reason. It’s a discussion of what we’ve seen and experienced them as a group consistently lie or be deceptive about. Why would you accept something at face value that you’ve seen a group constantly lie about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:47 PM
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Ok we can do that also, how is that good communication though? Sounds like very poor communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:15 PM
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This example is not an individual saying they don’t really care about height and being written off as one individual. It’s an individual lying and downplaying the fact that they find taller men attractive because they want to create a wholesome image as if they aren’t shallow. Then pursuing and preferring taller men. It’s not an issue of some women care and some women don’t. It’s most women care and few women admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:13 PM
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In what way is lying and indirectly hinting at things without explicitly admitting them good communication? What’s described in the op is not honest and not open. It’s misleading and deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:02 PM
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Curious do you actively try to invoke a green light or just watch to see if it naturally happens?
/r/seduction20/02/25 02:06 AM
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What do you consider a verbal green light?
/r/seduction20/02/25 01:06 AM
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If people telling are you your advice doesn’t work you aren’t giving good advice. “just get out there” is not advice and could have a different meaning by everyone who says it. You’re expecting some understanding when there isn’t anything of substance said. Regardless if you think it works Red pill will go deep into specific actionable steps which is why it will gain more attention than generic platitudes ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:49 PM
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Yes, that is the whole point of this post and my comment. If you spent years glowing up as others advised just to repeat the same failures you’re going to start telling everyone who gives that advice that it’s bullshit. This is exactly why posts like this are made. You can’t control the opinion of the other side. What does this have to do with seeing others as people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 08:43 PM
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You can’t tell me shit but generic platitudes. They are useless. I was kindly explaining that to you but let’s be a little more direct. You happened to see some scenario where this worked and have become blue pilled. What you don’t see is the outcome of this “advice” failing. What you fail to realize is that every word you’ve said can be heard and still result in failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:53 PM
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Everyone gets it eventually. When you do get out there and return empty handed each time then you get it. You see it for the generic feel good platitude sham that it is. Or you happen to be in the right scenario for it to work and become blue pilled thinking every man can do this one simple trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:25 PM
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You show up to an interview uninvited they don’t care how you dress. They don’t want you. When you’re advising people on what’s most important for interviews you tell them being qualified or dressing nice? Who is passing the interview, the guy in a t shirt who is qualified and well versed in the field or the guy who wears a 1k suit and has no idea what he’s talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:56 PM
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If women already find you attractive you’ve already won the game. I don’t know what the levels are. Either you’re attractive and get a yes or unattractive and get a no. That’s all I see. Unless it’s going to change a no into a yes then I don’t see how it’s a top priority for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:07 PM
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If a man is unattractive you’ve said his attire won’t change woman’s mind on if he’s attractive. That’s the whole goal. If it can’t make women attracted to you it’s pointless to waste time on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:44 PM
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Then we can effectively trash the advice of “just dress nice bro” given to men because dressing well isn’t enough to change someone’s mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:46 AM
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You didn’t answer because it would expose the poor logic you’ve used and trash everything you’ve just said. Women expect 100% of their needs to be met which is why I don’t want to hear pointless shit about not being perfect. It’s so easy to highlight your contradictions. The only thing you’re here to do is run your mouth and blabber on about “lazy” men. Anyone with the most basic understanding of divorce or breakups can answer the question of who initiates the breakup more of men and women. Clea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:42 AM
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Women are the ones who typically initiate breakups and that’s proven. Did you actually think you had a point? I don’t give a fuck about rare occurrences. You didn’t seem to answer the question at all did you. Women expect all of their needs to be met. That is men’s responsibility. You can’t do that she’s gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:52 AM
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As she said, just pick based on whether your needs are being met. Do you accept relationships that don’t meet all of your needs? Men do have flaws. That is why women leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:26 AM
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It’s a common theme that women never really understand or relate to. They give the exact same reply you did. Just pick based on whether your needs are being met. This is a female trait and privilege. Most men enter relationships that are not 100% perfect. They cannot nitpick through a multitude of dating options as you can to get every single thing they need. Men have to sacrifice in some areas in order to gain a relationship. Most men will not get 100% of their needs met, so when there’s ex com…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:12 AM
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And here lies the problem with the current market. When your success is determined by factors outside of your control it becomes unreasonable to expect you to meet rising expectations based on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:58 PM
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Thank you for saving me the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:57 PM
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I see the explanation. I don’t know how you are determining if this is a disqualification. You can be friendly, funny, outgoing, likable, and understand the basics of communication and still be socially awkward in certain situations or even in general. This doesn’t tell me what events need to occur for man to be disqualified by you. Is this if he displays any social awkwardness at all? Is it ok if limited to certain situations? At what point is he disqualified?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:56 PM
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You replied with a snarky comment posting the general definition as if I have no idea what social awareness is. I asked how are you defining it because you have claimed you’re using it as a disqualification. But you’ve just listed generic qualities and not actual scenarios or indicators that you are using to determine this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:56 PM
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I didn’t ask you what google says and I don’t care… YOU said you use it to disqualify men so I asked YOU. You’re not pulling up google when interacting with a man to decide if you disqualify him. This is an action you are responsible for defining if you’re using it to disqualify men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:44 PM
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There is no “convinced”. They are unrealistic and men are now understanding this and trying to find ways to overcome. Being settled for is clearly not something anyone willingly wants and for good reason. There is no which one. Men want realistic standards so they can actually meet them and not end up in rejection or divorce because of expectations they will never reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:39 PM
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You are creating a scenario where awkward men are all getting relationships and don’t struggle. You’re pinning the struggle with women back to men being “not nice people at all”. More just world fallacy. Thinking it can’t be because they’re awkward, it’s because they are bad people. The reality you are desperately trying to avoid is that women will reject you en mass for nothing but being observably awkward without giving a shit how nice you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:30 PM
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How do you even define social awkwardness? One moment of 30 seconds silence and he’s done?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:56 PM
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This is just so wrong. Awkwardness may be the largest deterrent to women. You’re creating this picture where awkward men do great with women and the only way they will struggle is some extreme circumstance where he never leaves or has the most obnoxious attitude. You haven’t seen any guys struggle because you don’t see them at all. You don’t acknowledge them or know them. That’s why they are struggling. If they have made it into your circle they’ve already been accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:46 PM
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People claiming to have no IG actually responding to this… It was just Valentine’s Day. Everyone is posting their GF. Even if the guy doesn’t want to, she’s going to see other women being posted and demand he posts her. You are correct but the reason could be anything. Probably a good amount of show offs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:55 PM
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Then you should know this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:31 AM
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Yes, I will because dating will still be undeniably worse than it was in the 90s-2014.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:20 PM
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Whatever effect it has is worthless if it ends in rejection. If you are in top shape and have nothing to show for it why would you even care? What is there that doesn’t make sense? You don’t see, hear, or acknowledge irredeemable men in regular activities. When you are here you finally hear of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:01 PM
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This is hilarious know I’m faster stronger and in better shape then you will ever be. Buddy repped 225 for the first time and thinks he’s tough now 🤣😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:17 PM
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Aww look at the little white knight trying to act tough on the internet. I’m sure you’re impressing so many women right now. Me calling out idiots who think being in shape will result in women is completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:15 PM
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They probably are. Women don’t need them and men can barely succeed on them. I don’t see this as anything they can be salvaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:49 PM
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You’ve already given that up. You’ve experienced the only semblance we’ve had of balanced dating. No one who dated at that time will look at the current state of dating apps and think everything’s fine. No men at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:46 PM
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When are we going to stop pretending that anyone gives a shit about bios? Most women don’t even have a complete sentence there. Of course Reddit can’t wait to virtue signal about how women read every bio when they actually don’t. That’s about all the interest this topic gets. They want the most physically attractive. That’s it. They figure out compatibility after the most attractive are selected. Once that group is determined an extended bio and some prompts could help. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:25 PM
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It’s mainly this sub and Reddit in general. In real life if you’re in shape people aren’t going to say dumb shit to you about needing to go to the gym to get women or calling you lazy if you don’t. They know you aren’t. They can’t give you that bullshit virtue signaling answer about showering because they see and smell you do. I’m not really going to say this is all about validation but when you have people here screaming that men are single because they’re lazy and shit people I’m going to call…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:15 PM
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Let’s try the comment again… “men who are in shape”. Going to the gym, having muscle, being strong and in shape, does not mean women will deem you attractive. Working hard on your physical appearance does not mean women will think you’re attractive. Yet it’s preached here that effort is all men need to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:48 PM
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Would be for the top percentage of men to raise their standards for casual encounters. Other than that getting rid of the disparity he mentioned does nothing. If women all of a sudden needed to actually work to get results in dating they’ll feel entitled to being even more pickier. That would not help most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:44 PM
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That’s one of many packages this is sold in. This post is another form. It’s driven by this thought that if a man is rejected it’s his fault and he’s done nothing to improve. They cannot imagine a hard working man can fail with women. Most will not acknowledge uncontrollable factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:30 PM
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I haven’t changed anything. I’ve always worked at this. Yet here I’m told here I’m lazy if I get rejected. If anything I overestimated the effectiveness of this. When guys are told that this is the key. Some may end up happy and luck into success that may not even be because of this. Then the others who did all of this that don’t are going to be filled with hate. There you have the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:13 PM
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It makes perfect sense when you’re the one getting rejected. When you’re the one constantly in the gym and working on your body. To you it does not. You don’t face this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:01 PM
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Why is it always the ones who haven’t dated since the 90s saying “nothings wrong bro”. That’s very easy to say when you aren’t in the battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:56 PM
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I am proud of where I am and I love what I see in the mirror. But I can’t control it if women don’t. You’re saying all of this improvement is the key and women weren’t lying about it but there are plenty of men who do this to no avail as you’ve seen. I don’t understand the point of this post. Men in this position will be resentful regardless, especially when everyone is telling them what they’ve already done is the key yet it’s done nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:28 PM
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Or it’s countered with “I’ve never seen a guy who did this struggle”. I’ve been told on this sub that men who are in shape all get attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:51 PM
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In real life, they actually admit size matters. You hear them bragging about how large their ex or current Bf is when they get the opportunity. On Reddit they pretend anything over 3 inches hurts and will avoid admitting size has any positive effect. Same with height. We all know it’s virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:52 PM
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Couldn’t think of a less logical way to look at this. Hit the gym and diet then work on “social skills” which could mean anything you want it to and you think that’s all that’s necessary. Right once women find out I’ve been to the gym they can’t possibly reject me. You can choose to be in shape and friendly. This does not mean women will give a shit. Women’s opinion is not a man’s choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:23 AM
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No man chooses to have a terrible dating experience, to be rejected, or struggle. There is no magic key that they know everything about yet refuse to use. People are in this situation because they don’t know what else to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:11 AM
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It doesn’t apply here because Complaining is now any discussion at all about challenges men face in dating. Anyone who says something they don’t like is now “whining”. Pointing out any injustice is complaining, unless of course it’s beneficial to them then it’s suddenly valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:02 PM
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Women wanted this power whether you want it or. You got it. You can’t simply shove it aside and avoid the responsibility. You decide who can start a family. You decide who is accepted in society. You decide what behavior gets approval and what does not. Men can only observe and do anything they can to match what women want or face isolation. When you have the power to determine the outcome you will be looked to for a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:55 PM
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So if these men are rejected due to appearance in favor of a 6’4 guy what are they accountable for? In what way are they liberated?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:18 AM
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So to confirm. These men are not rejected due to their physical appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:50 PM
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I get it. You get it. To them they are correct because they cannot think beyond 2005.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:06 PM
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That group of those you mentioned who aren’t familiar with modern dating are still mentally stuck in that time period. They are spewing bullshit advice and discussion as if it’s still the 90s or 2000s. When they’ve been married for 10+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:53 PM
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Let’s repeat what you have “NeVer sEEn” until you gain the ability to read it. Or you can respond “where” again as if you can’t. And when someone says looks are most important and it’s not debatable then they receive this response where are you? “It’s debatable because most married men I have met are not conventionally attractive. They’re fat, they don’t wear anything particularly fancy (mostly jeans and shirt), they don’t have a conventionally attractive face, they are low middle class... I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:15 PM
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I’ve clearly already shown you a perfect example and completely broke your argument and you still pull this. This is exactly why you turn every interaction into a complete waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:12 PM
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The thing is it’s very true. Those same women play both sides. I’ve just given you a perfect example of how they do this and what’s said. This is why you get these responses. You say this never happens right after I see women telling men they’re delusional for not believing all married men they know are fat and ugly. Clearly 80% of men are not all attractive. Yet according to you and blue pill nearly every guy has sex on demand. How is it possible that nearly all men are having sex when most men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:07 PM
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You constantly do this. You ask for examples of something that commonly parroted knowing that no one is saving comments waiting to share with you and if they do have examples you’ll be in denial of them. It’s a complete waste of time for everyone involved. And when someone says looks are most important and it’s not debatable then they receive this response where are you? “It’s debatable because most married men I have met are not conventionally attractive. They’re fat, they don’t wear anything p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:27 PM
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And once you call out this fact you’re now “complaining”. Instead of saying go ahead this post is saying it’s the worst thing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:52 AM
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And every time they want to come here and brag I’m going to remind them. They can call it complaining or whatever they want. Doesn’t matter to me whether it’s trust fund or dating or whatever the privilege is. It doesn’t change the fact no but it reminds them they aren’t the hot shit they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:30 AM
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Hearing that, my difference is that I do believe I’m good enough or close enough to it that it’s reachable. I don’t look at it as something to change. I might not be able to sway them to change to cater to me, but I’m going to speak up when they try to tell me I’m not good enough unattractive or whatever bullshit they come up with. I’m not going to sit there in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:19 AM
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When that trust fund asshole starts talking shit to you about how hard he worked to get where he is and lectures you about how you need to stop being lazy when you know he doesn’t put up a fraction of what you do then you let him know what reality actually is. Yet that’s called “complaining”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:01 AM
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Complaining is now any discussion at all about challenges men face in dating. And either way it’s completely fine. If you pay for a meal and they serve you raw or burnt food that you didn’t order you tell them something is wrong. I don’t give a shit if someone thinks it’s “complaining”. It’s 100% worth bringing to someone’s attention. You don’t just sit there and let them treat you like shit because life isn’t fair. No you’re going to hear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:59 AM
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Then this extends to everyone male or female. Why interact with anyone at all? Anyone you come in contact with will disrupt your rhythm.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:43 PM
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What is so amazing about this? Doing it alone? Being in a relationship is not stopping any of this from happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 08:51 PM
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An imaginary term that means do what I want you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:50 PM
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You don’t empathize with being a sociopath unless you are one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:03 PM
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According to both of these groups online they all have supermodel wives. Where are you getting this conclusion from?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:04 PM
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Then why do you so strongly oppose men on this sub? If you’ve had the same experiences why are you against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:02 PM
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And you empathize with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:23 PM
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This post is about men and women. You singling out one extreme example that is possibly exaggerated to prove a point is not going to hold weight. You haven’t reached the level of frustration, anger, and desperation needed to say whatever was said so I cannot believe that you understand this any more than what’s on the surface level. Basic human emotions do not bring out extreme statements as what you suggested. Regardless, as a whole if someone feels empathy towards a group they would at minimum…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:45 PM
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You do not empathize with him. You don’t know why or what drove him to feel that way or have that perspective. It’s not relatable. You’ve never shared or experienced those same feelings. This is also an extreme example and not what this post and comments are really about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:56 PM
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If they held others problems with respect they wouldn’t be saying they don’t want them to feel better. It’s not a matter of if they can help or not, they don’t want to or really care to.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:34 PM
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You don’t have to make them feel better. You might not be able to. If you truly understood their perspective and feelings you wouldn’t be saying you don’t want them to feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:31 PM
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What is the point of you all going through these mental gymnastics? Is it that bad to admit you don’t care? If someone is desperate to tell you how much empathy they feel for those hurt by world hunger yet then say they hope those who are starving don’t get food and wouldn’t give them their leftovers if they had a chance it would make no sense. Just say you don’t feel empathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:17 PM
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That’s majority of the women on this sub and in the comments of this post. I specifically selected those comments. So what is the point of them claiming to be empathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:12 PM
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Empathy drives your behavior and actions. If you felt empathy towards any group for any reason you would at minimum be kind to this group. Not talking shit to and about them on a regular basis. Men know what empathy means and they can spot that you and most women do not have it for them. In time they will learn to navigate without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:04 PM
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These are women that come here daily with the sole purpose of trashing men. They don’t want to help. They don’t give a shit about men. Realistically the best thing they could do is leave the whole situation alone because they contribute nothing but negativity towards it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:58 PM
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These women commenting feel zero empathy. They only claim they do. Whatever makes them look good or feel good. They either don’t give a shit or visit this sub constantly to kick men while they’re down. I don’t think anyone should be asking for more, but don’t pretend to care or want to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:40 PM
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We continuously hear women aren’t a monolith until something that sounds unflattering is mentioned. Now it’s ok to declare women don’t do this? Women don’t treat attractive men favorably? They aren’t more likely to interact with an attractive man? If you aren’t attractive you need to offer them something. Women will go to the bar with you because you’re driving and they get a free ride and you can step in if a guy they don’t like approaches. Guys go to the bar with you to enjoy the bar. That’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:18 AM
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Yep. Unless you have status with something to provide or are somewhat attractive women probably won’t want to befriend you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:05 AM
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Move on as in move on. They aren’t interested in maintaining anything if they aren’t getting something I already answered you. I said no I can’t be anymore clear than that which you don’t seem to get or accept. This is why I went on to explain that I’m not expecting or measuring interaction based on what validation or entertainment I’m getting out of it. This is more of a female trait. They’re evaluating you based on what they gain from you. Most guys do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 12:36 AM
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This is not simply investing time. If you aren’t providing them with something they most likely don’t want to spend time at all and are quick to move on. Some men are like this but it’s my most common experience with women. It’s not impossible just too rare for me to consider it realistic. No. I don’t expect or ask for validation or entertainment from anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:56 PM
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Protection, validation, access to events, status, entertainment, idk. I said I cannot say never because surely some instances without this exist. I cannot tell you what you’ve seen, only what I’ve seen. Those decade long friendships I’ve seen have not been female friends. They move to the next who has more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:09 PM
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Many of them are here for this. Hoping to find men who they can kick while they’re down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:41 PM
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I’m not going to say never but this is spot on. Some will come to realize this. Some won’t. See who the friend is when the resource is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:36 PM
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“whining” is an overused buzzword at this point. It’s when anyone who is different than you speaks on their struggles or issues, which everyone has a right to do. Let me ask you. Do you think she would all of a sudden give a shit about you or any other guy because he doesn’t voice his issues? Because I’m pretty sure she’s stated she doesn’t give a shit and whether or not you express your issues isn’t going to change that. She’s specifically specified any man that struggled with loneliness, relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:14 PM
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No. They aren’t going to fully replace relationships but they will pretend and tell you they can to create the image of how much better it is single than to be around men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:28 PM
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Men. Please stop by to see above what blue pilled women truly think about you without virtue signaling. You aren’t deemed attractive by them this is what they feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:17 PM
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All of this is common except for them paying for photos. I’d feel nothing. This is expected. It’s how most of them think yet are afraid to speak on it. What’s important is that there are no real problems and she’s doesn’t think it’s worth trying to obtain the top percentage. Women adore celebrities and watch guys who are better looking than you on social media. They worry about your looks over time. They get a rush from more attractive men flirting with them even if they say no. They know if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:46 PM
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And every one of them have female friends that they stand by and never leave? Or you don’t associate with the ones that don’t and therefore don’t know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:32 PM
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A woman is probably not going to hear of men without female friends. You’re only exposed to the men who have been granted access to these circles which are men who have females in their group. I would expect you don’t encounter these other men. How would you? They don’t have access to get to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:51 PM
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That’s what the blue pilled men in here push. According to them men have “no issues” finding partners and everyone is coupled up and having sex. So when you talk about divorce and women not finding most men attractive their logic is broken and it breaks the immersion of the fantasy land they’ve created.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:15 PM
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That hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:15 PM
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Yes but you’re saying things like spend time making money and be a millionaire. You typically don’t become rich by blowing money on women. You do so by spending time grinding and being conservative with money. This has nothing to do with feelings. It’s to point out this isn’t only about being rich, it’s about blowing the money you have on them and using it to create some fake lifestyle and image they want.
/r/seduction14/01/25 03:06 PM
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The unsaid party about this is you need to be spending that money and spending it on them for this to work. Being irresponsible. The average person who is financially successful is not getting to that point by blowing it on travel and women and the large majority of people are not going to reach levels where they can and still be well off no matter how hard they work.
/r/seduction14/01/25 02:48 PM
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Yeah I agree you are correct but what would I do with this here? I can assume but they all say it as if they have some type of authority because it’s what women want. Now I have another woman saying the opposite and they still refuse to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:14 PM
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Then why aren’t you telling tell her that? It’s worked on her so she obviously doesn’t think so. You have a problem then talk to women because they expect we approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:51 PM
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That is the feminist. Also now turned and is talking shit about you. Be careful who you praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:47 PM
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A women just told me and everyone here that she was approached shopping and it worked. That is what women told me. Listening to you and hesitating to approach because you don’t know if it’s appropriate or not? That is what will guarantee being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:03 AM
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Love how this thread is full of men screaming how men need to approach yet I see this comment fully shutting this down. What a shit show dating has become.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:22 AM
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You are correct but this one had another comment above from a woman directly opposing her. Wonder what the response is when there’s evidence others don’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:08 PM
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We just saw in these comments from another woman that this has worked and now they’re in a long term relationship. If it works then it’s the right place. For every place you say not to approach there is another woman to say it’s worked on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:49 PM
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They should be on the same team yes. We both see the issue. Where I see we differ here is that I don’t think they plan on recognizing it or wanting to change anything. Even if they aren’t happy with their dating situation they know that by them sitting out they’re also punishing all of the men who want to be with them. This is enough to keep them happy. I want you to be right but I can’t see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:35 PM
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That’s just a side effect of what women asked for. Women want to be approached and have communicated to men that they must do this or be alone. We have another woman who clearly states that this has worked on her. There is no way for a man to know if it will work because of conflicting reports like these so he has to approach. If you have an issue you’ll need to direct it to women who tell stories of how they were approached while shopping and now in a relationship with that person or women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:20 PM
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You are correct in that you have a good thought and have pointed out major issues but I don’t see them ever agreeing. Women are sitting in a very comfortable position in the dating market and society. Men come to them in large quantities. Why would they change anything or exert additional effort when they have everything catered to them the way it’s setup now? You say relationships are at an all time low. Women decided this. They do what they think is best for them. They don’t give a shit about …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:00 PM
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The thing is it’s not 2000 anymore. This is about modern dating. Men actually had a decent chance back then before all of these apps. It was somewhat normal for women to actually want to please their man or even care if they do. Now it’s all about what men are doing for them. Women are the prize and they dont need to provide anything. They dont really care anymore. Men will are in abundance to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:01 PM
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Are you excusing them for this? Why is it that when you bring up the topic of women being overweight it’s ok because not everyone is fit enough to stay in shape, but when it comes to men being “boring” you don’t have this same empathy or excuse as to why it’s happened? If you aren’t holding each side equally accountable and it looks very biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:26 AM
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A man with high value. That value needs to come from and be determined by others, mainly women. Not only from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:28 PM
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That wasn’t a question to debate. It was a question with an obvious answer so you can see a perspective that you would understand. So you could understand how ridiculous it would sound to read that quote and say it would receive no pushback. Theres nothing delusional about stating men who share that they struggle with dating receive negative reactions and especially on this sub. Of course i already know this, it’s common sense to any man who’s seen places like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:12 AM
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Sure but these people here responding are claiming that no one would get any pushback for saying this HERE which is insane to even think they could argue. Please, you tell me what response this would get: “I am frustrated that I don’t get many matches on dating apps, and it makes dating challenging for me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:04 AM
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We didn’t say blaming did we. We said pushback. What’s the point in denying reality when anyone who’s read this sub for 10 minutes can see? That statement will clearly get pushback. I obviously know what you’re saying isn’t true so what do you gain by this? Making women seem reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:59 PM
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Ok cool so if I post on this sub: “I am frustrated that I don’t get many matches on dating apps, and it makes dating challenging for me.” I’ll get no pushback from women or really anyone according to you? No one will say I’m “whining” no one will disagree no one will say any of the rebuttals I’ve just listed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:50 PM
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I’m not even getting into what you just said but the topic of that comment was that her quote what is a perfectly acceptable statement will receive pushback. Not the question of if this pushback is legit. That it even happens at all. Which you’ve just done and explained that you it believe should be done because it’s legit. Disproving her statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:36 PM
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No. It 100% does. I’ll give you the responses again that this will receive. Any regular guy here will tell you that. Woman and white knights view any guy who admits to struggling in finding women to be abnormal and react negatively towards them. Pushback is given and that’s if they decide not to flat out insult you for saying this. “I do just fine all guys I know are in relationships” “must be something wrong with you” “shitty personality” “Do you shower?” “Just look around all the fat ugly men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:30 PM
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No. I’m talking about your perfectly acceptable statement. Nothing else. Now you’re adding more pieces that you think make it acceptable to invalidate. They don’t have to ALSO say anything. Im talking about your quote alone. There will be pushback regardless. There will not be acceptance regardless of if you’re adding more pieces to it or not. You also said it gets pushback because it invalidates women’s experience. Now you’ve changed to say it gets pushback because it’s too dramatic. What you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:22 PM
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That first statement will 100% get push back and ridicule every time. You have white knights and women waiting to scream “I do just fine all guys I know are in relationships” “must be something wrong with you” “shitty personality” “Do you shower?” “Just look around all the fat ugly men at Walmart have wives” After the constant refusal of others to acknowledge finding women to date can be challenging #1 turns into #2 after pointing out why they can’t fathom this could be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:31 PM
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If you are another woman, then yes. If you are related to her, then yes. If you don’t fit in either of these categories then no. I cannot say they’re more empathetic and probably don’t care enough to even think of you period let alone feel empathy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:52 PM
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I’m just using that as an example. Are you saying women don’t commonly find a man planning dates and initiating to be attractive and don’t prefer men to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:29 PM
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Women typically do not like planning or initiating when it comes to dating. It’s even become a dating profile trend to list men who plan dates as a turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 04:32 PM
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Yeah… If you study relationships long enough you’ll realize how this plays out in real time. The guy who’s white knighting and constantly bringing up his GF is exactly this guy. This isn’t college. When they start running out of time and see their friends all get married that white knight who’s been friend zoned for years finally becomes an option out of desperation. And he’s going to let everyone know as if he wasn’t the last pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:41 AM
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You aren’t going to admit being upset about anything or doing anything wrong. According to Reddit women are perfect. So it’s up to us to point out when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:05 PM
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So women like men who are unattractive and offer nothing to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:48 PM
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What changed is the context. It’s when you realize it’s not that she doesn’t do XY period. It’s that she doesn’t do XY for you. This signals a potential lack of respect or attraction. If you’re out and a guy sends a round of free drinks to everyone in your group but you you’re going to look at that guy and wonder if there’s an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:42 PM
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They aren’t going to admit it. Their only goal here is to trash men, but we all know if any of them ever found this out they’re be livid with him. Excuses to avoid the truth: If he treats me good idc. I don’t ask or know about previous relationships. Why care about the past. He’s changed and not into it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:27 PM
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You think you’re some saint but what you’re suggesting will lower everyone’s quality of life and would not work. You obviously cant simply drop reproduction of 50% of the population without major economic issues. I’m focused on ideas that have a possibility of working, not yours. Also a prime example of modern women’s ego. You think you have the right to tell 50% of the population that they can’t pair up or have a family. You actually think you are above them and know better than them. You aren’…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:19 PM
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What a comment. The orbiter selected by default becomes one of the blue pilled white knights here telling everyone how he does “just fine” and has no problems while the reality of the entire situation flew right over his head. They have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:26 AM
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No. They don’t. They have no idea of what an absolute failure that would be to any country that tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:22 AM
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You’re telling me 25% of women earn more than their husbands and are dating down. If I believed you it doesn’t change that most women are not and haven’t throughout history as I said. Even the unicorns that do still expect their husbands to also provide. They still expect something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:23 AM
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It doesn’t matter why. The statement was that women don’t do it and I said historically they did. If for some reason you think that women have become the bread winners now I can’t help. It’s always been in their nature to do this. Of course some will go against the grain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:55 AM
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When you say: “It’s almost as if (sorry, I know it’s an overused phrase) women don’t cynically assess how to extract wealth from men.” This doesn’t leave room for any difference to be possible or circumstances of realities like mine when it’s said that women don’t do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:24 AM
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Weird this only happens on Reddit. Maybe you date down for whatever reason. Typically throughout history women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:16 AM
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Sure, I guess you only know women who never look to receive any resources. I don’t. I couldn’t imagine a relationship where I’m not expected or asked to provide anything. Still, historically that’s what women have done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 11:28 PM
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They do t have to be the only provider but they typically need to be offering some type of resource. If those men stopped providing any of these resources would their wives stay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:59 PM
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They get nothing from the relationship? Their husbands never provided anything nor where they ever asked to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:40 PM
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Not always cynically no, but psychologically yes. Historically they have typically sought resources from men with money being only one of them. It’s part of their developed instinctual human nature to try to extract something. That’s just how humans evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:20 PM
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I can’t do anything with your experience. You say that and I don’t see it. I didn’t fall into these ideas. I see what they describe and it’s relatable because I commonly see it. What you describe is so rare to me that it’s not. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:17 PM
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Again, this is not just being done wrong by someone in a one off instance. This is what I’ve commonly seen and not just with me. This is nothing at all like meeting one person of another race because this is not a one off instance. What red pill describes is what I see in reality. What you describe is not. I don’t care or deny there are instances of them being a saint and doing no wrong. That’s not what I encounter so it doesn’t apply to me and I need to prepare accordingly. And I would never li…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:43 PM
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This is not some one off. This is what I’ve seen consistently happen to guys in that situation. So when I have you telling me how women are good to you which I rarely see and I have red pill describing what I’ve commonly seen they are going to look far more credible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:45 AM
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Most of it is topics that already exist that men normally discuss. The internet just decided to group these topics and put a label on it. You have asked for a lot of examples. One is a man not having many other options. Originally when I didn’t know any better I thought this was a good thing while in a relationship. It means you’re staying faithful and not entertaining others. I’ve seen this topic brought up by them while explaining how women will use this as leverage against you because they kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:37 AM
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There is no guarantee you find another one. You could be cheated on, divorced, anything and not through your fault. Now you’re one of them because in your words you haven’t accomplished the basic task of finding a partner. The point is this doesn’t mean you aren’t a functioning member of society because of you not having a “partner”. Others should not have a visceral reaction to you. The only difference is how much different individuals tolerate being disrespected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:47 PM
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You have a visceral reaction to men who haven’t found a partner? You do realize this could easily be you as you could be left at any moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:17 PM
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I remember when I used to think like this. You’re thinking any man who doesn’t have a partner is some skinny basement dwelling nerd who is afraid of his shadow. Women don’t determine whether a man is a functioning member of society. They don’t determine anything about men at all when you don’t give them that power. There are a variety of ways men can end up single or even divorced with no partner. Shit doesn’t always work out and that’s not always in your control. This has no bearing on what tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:00 PM
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Having a winners mindset is going into the game thinking and believing you will win. How can you believe you’ll win a game you have no control over? This post is more saying play more games because you will lose most of them which is somewhat correct, but I don’t see how this is a winners mindset.
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:15 AM
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You said you can’t control whether or not she’ll flake on you or if she’s into you. Which is true. If you can max attributes yet still can’t control it why does it matter?
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:00 AM
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The blatant hate for men here is incredible. It’s much easier to degrade men and praise women when you paint single men who can’t find a relationship as what you’ve just described while single women who can’t are angels who no men are good enough for. If you acknowledged that men can have everything you mentioned under control and still be rejected it becomes a lot more difficult to do. That’s why you don’t acknowledge it and only paint them in this negative light.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 10:07 PM
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I just told you multiple times what your advice leads to which you have no response. Try to use common sense. I just told you what will not result in a relationship. The only times I have had success is actually doing what the women wanted and not what I wanted which is the complete opposite of what you’ve advised…. Do you think no one here has had a relationship before? When you actually are able to give women what they want then yes you might get a relationship., but when it’s what THEY want n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:10 PM
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Put the preface on it and it makes more sense. They want the few men they find attractive to be kind and decent. They probably aren’t because they have plenty of options. It probably is difficult to find kind decent men out of the small sample size that qualify as being attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:43 PM
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That’s not what I see here at all. Women will straight up tell you romantic relationships are not a need then compare it to food to say you’ll be fine without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:37 PM
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Yes the ones here who respond with “it’s not your appearance, my 400 pound friends has a supermodel wife and is great with women because of his personality”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:30 PM
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Holy shit it’s a basic fucking sentence. I just said following YOUR advice will result in having no one. Then again I simplified it to tell you it will result in NO RELATIONSHIP. It’s not that fucking complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:18 PM
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Again I’ve already told you… Let’s see if you understand the 3rd time. I just told you how that would work out. In no relationship because you did what you wanted and no what she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:58 PM
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If you want to ever find a relationship then yes you need to care. I can run around thinking I’m cool doing what I want without caring what women think. Women will continue to not give a shit until i do something that they are interested in. What I think means jack shit. I just told you how that would work out. In no relationship because you did what you wanted and no what she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:42 PM
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You can’t. The entire premise of dating success relies on what women and other people think of you. If I don’t care about this I’ll have no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:04 PM
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You said “the rest of us work and pay taxes” not we all do. This means you’re claiming that is something you (the rest of us) do that others don’t. That only you are doing it while the men on this sub (opposing group) do not. Im not asking what you think community engagement is and I’m not claiming that anyone deserves their support. The point is it’s possible for them to help. I said this post useless. The OP. Not your comments. You’re saying that if someone is participating in “community engag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:37 PM
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Right so you think you’re the only person who works and pays taxes? Do you want a pat on the back? You don’t get the point. It’s perfectly reasonable to turn back to society when you’ve done all you can with no success and it’s not all down to you if you’ve done this. Society may help it may not. The point is it’s possible for society to help and it’s reasonable to want it. Making this post useless. You’ve gone from from society can’t make others have fuzzy feelings for you to now “my community …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:19 PM
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Yes, when you’re doing all you can to obtain a result, that’s no longer on you. You can pretend society doesn’t play a role in this but yes, they do. Society should be at least helping but they’re going to have an attitude of “fuck you got mine” such as what you are displaying. It’s perfectly reasonable to turn back to society looking for answers when you’ve done all they said you need to do to succeed and it doesn’t happen. With dating and everything else. They may not have a full answer but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:37 PM
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If someone does whatever they can to obtain a result and they can’t, that doesn’t mean it’s their fault. It’s not up to them. They’re not the crux of the issue as you said. They are not the answer of what needs to change. It’s not down to them as you said in the title. They’ve done their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:28 PM
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Cool, do you get some pleasure out of this? Again what’s the point of your post? To tell men they can’t have love and should not try to pursue it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:55 PM
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Right so this post is useless. If you address these items to the best of your knowledge and you still aren’t considered attractive then what? What society told you was wrong. That’s when you turn to society and start to demand some answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:14 PM
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And neither can I so no, I am not the answer. This is not an active decision I’m making as you’re suggesting. I don’t determine if you think I’m attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:10 PM
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Yes but when school is finished and there are no options in the office then you’re screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:55 PM
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“Just become attractive bro.” Society can’t even collectively define what this means. You say this as if this is some switch I can decide if I turn on or off. It’s not. You don’t just decide to become attractive one day and I cannot control others thoughts and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:48 PM
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The attitude is those who didn’t have to work to get their privilege demanding others work harder because they aren’t pleased. If they are improving yet still rejected then no that isn’t the thesis of this post. This post implies that any man who decides to improve with result in success. You can improve to be better than the man she selects. When you can’t distinctly define “areas women care about” you can’t really improve on them. You don’t know what it is because they’ll all give different an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:43 PM
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Right. Imagine that someone responded “if you want better outcomes earn them” to women when they spoke on oppression. Then it’s a problem. Yet once they’re in the privileged position they have no issue saying it to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:56 PM
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Yes. This is keeping the American dream alive. But the level of wealth needed to pull this off is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:45 PM
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Who’s to say these men aren’t improving then? Improving the areas women care about can mean so many different things there’s no distinct way to target or measure this. It can’t be defined when they all demand different things to varying levels. And women are not the pursuers. They sit back and the men come to them. This is not competition unless they make it that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 04:42 PM
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It’s the ridiculous concept that they think any man can become attractive to any woman he wants if he “tries”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:56 PM
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The men come to them. They don’t have to compete for anything. They choose to. We don’t. What’s disgusting is sitting back and saying “hey you men need to compete harder for me” as you sit in your place of inherited privilege. This is also assuming men don’t work hard or improve. That doesn’t guarantee shit for dating. The just improve bro just put in effort bro trope is not some all encompassing solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:48 PM
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This is a typical example of the disgusting attitude that’s faced in modern dating. You haven’t done any hard work or improvement to earn your status in the dating market. You were born with it. Yet you have the nerve to sit back and demand every man work harder to compete for you. Why would I respect the bum who’s living off his inheritance given to him telling me I need to work harder when I’ve already busted my ass 10x hard than he ever has? This is coming from someone who claims the issue is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:41 PM
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Usually when I respect people I don’t hold the value of their thoughts to the same level as “the leering, slobbering grandpa and dirty construction worker she passed on the street on the way to work.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:11 PM
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Why wouldn’t they? They aren’t high value because of their loyalty. It’s because of their success, status and even “social skill”. Wives would put up with it when they’ve secured the top percentage of the most successful men and can’t replace him. Do you think married pro athletes and celebrities don’t cheat? The higher value they get the easier it is for them to get acceptance to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:08 PM
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I believe this is one of the main reasons these pills exist. The the same advice is given of just try hard and put in effort. It will pay off in women wanting you. Some men go out and do this with no success, become frustrated and go red pill. For others it might work and they go blue pill thinking everyone can do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:51 PM
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I’d say she’s probably correct. If a man is deemed as one of the few high value, why not be married when they can venture off to cheat and come back? Is that wife going to leave a guy in the top percentage of success for a few flings? Or will he leverage that power to get the best of both worlds?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:48 PM
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Does this apply to women also or are we just demonizing single men again? Also yes you’re probably correct that those high value men are married. And possibly cheating because well they can do that when they’re high value because “at least he comes back to me every night”.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:45 PM
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I’m just glad to hear some truth about what you actually think of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:28 PM
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There is nothing to agree on or debate. I know what the results are because I’ve done it, still do it, and have seen what happens. You’re making up some bullshit story about how Ive never done anything and decided to guess what would happen as if I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:26 PM
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Do you actually think this poorly of men you aren’t attracted to? Ouch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:12 PM
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Apparently everyone who read this comment other than you understands I’m saying this because I have done it, still do it, and have seen the results…..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:00 PM
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If you could read the comment I just said I know it will not result in that. How would I know this? Maybe you could put together the most basic context clues to understand I’ve been there and done that. The fuck makes you think you have a clue about what work ethic is? It damn sure isn’t sitting on Reddit all day calling other people lazy thinking you’ve accomplished something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:36 PM
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And I can tell you with 100% certainty they aren’t. It may make them less likely to give one word answers and walk away. Sure. But they aren’t all of a sudden interested. Not every thing has some Disney movie fairytale ending. Women aren’t automatically attracted to you because you put in effort. Not everyone is rewarded for hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:29 PM
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I can promise you putting in 50%, even 100% “effort” on appearance will not result in me getting swarmed by women hitting on me. I’d be surprised if it even started one conversation. They don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:51 PM
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You’re saying men need to step up yet most woman have several men actively pursuing them. While woman are complaining of how thirsty men are because of their constant pursuit. Their dms are full to the brim. What they mean is the top percent of men they find attractive aren’t pursuing long term relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:19 AM
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Yes it really is. Oh no you have to add a filter to a post that’s soooo much you have to do… Regardless it’s refutes the statement that it’s not true this happens. There’s no point in trying to deny even the most obvious privilege you have. Despite all of this you don’t even have to be on Of to receive gifts by the benefit of being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:26 AM
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There are plenty of scenarios where women get money and gifts thrown at them. OF is simply one example to refute the statement that it’s this is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:37 PM
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It’s an example of having money and gifts thrown at them as it was stated in the other comment that this doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:39 PM
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Yes it’s called only fans
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:29 PM
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It pretty much does. You now have 50 men doing damn near anything you want. Having a mini army of guys doing whatever you tell them will make things easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:27 PM
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I’m talking about the points you’ve said not to worry about in your post and also this comment. You can say there are women interested but do I know them? Can I find them? If I did find even a small number them are they then physically attracted to me or am I even attracted to them? Are they single or even available? I’ve found that this is unlikely to align as all of these conditions need to be met just for a chance at an opportunity. At that point you have to cater to their wants or face isola…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:28 PM
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I have to focus on all of those things because these are what women are demanding I have. So my time is going to be spent focusing on improving these however I can. If what you’re good at is of no interest to the female gaze it means nothing. It gives you no power. This doesn’t mean there is no path to success but you are going to have to succeed with everything working against you as the average man. What do you expect to be done here? I can think I’m worthy enough all I want but if these women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:56 PM
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Yes, actually you do if you want to use it as a solution or excuse. You haven’t told me what the difference is between being skilled with men vs women. How are these skills applied to meet women? What level of skill are you saying is required? How can you evaluate whether or not he has enough “skill”? What missing skill can be forgiven? Why have we ignored physical attractiveness? If you want this to be addressed you need to explain what you want addressed. The “just have social skills” is sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:11 PM
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You would need to define “social skills” which most don’t. And men will always have pressure to perform so they can only get used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:41 PM
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I don’t think major has much to do with this. I don’t remember much meeting happening in class. You’re primarily meeting people in activities that occur outside of class. After college is over then yes your earning potential will be heavily evaluated by them. But that’s not always predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:39 PM
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What does the average man gain from a conversation with a married or highly sought after women? You can do it but it’s not going to solve anything. Thea attractive woman in the office is never single and comes with complications even if she wasn’t as others pointed out. I don’t see how this is a good option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:21 PM
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This has to be said again and again. It’s not the fact of men wanting them to settle. It’s that they think any guy who isn’t perfect is settling and unattractive. But this will be ignored. And they will say it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:30 PM
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If you do she’s 99% of the time already married. If she’s not there’ve been 6 guys who’ve already done this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:21 PM
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If you didn’t meet in college then yes it’s apps for you. Outside of that’s it’s rare. For men at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:21 PM
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So they’re inherently good? Again most of their topics involve widely known beliefs. The parts you don’t like involve discussion on how to prevent or protect against what women can or will do to you. What’s problematic or unsafe about discussing something such a hypergamy or women finding bad guys fun and exciting?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:24 PM
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You can’t simply deny any unflattering truth about women to be untrue. These are men’s actual lived experiences that you can’t deny them from. I’m sorry you all aren’t perfect and incapable of doing wrong. Something such as women wanting physically attractive or high status men is what men actually see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:06 PM
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Understanding these truths is not awful nor delusional as you’ve said. Men learn or experience them whether it’s through red pill or not. I just said it’s not always unique to this group as men can learn it in other ways. Nothing about this is problematic or unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:01 PM
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You’re admitting they have universally accepted beliefs yet people are unsafe, delusional, and extreme if they believe universally accepted beliefs? The beliefs of the red pill are not rare. They’re widely known. There is just a subset of people that identifies it as the red pill. Men discover this knowledge from multiple sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:25 PM
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Having all of the leverage and power in the dating market must be so difficult to handle. Imagine having to sort through so many options. Horror. Have some empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:18 PM
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You don’t need anything. You just got finished talking shit about how much better you are than men underneath another comment doing the same. Now you’re claiming oppression. You don’t get it both ways. If you’re actually doing so well you aren’t oppressed. Clearly no one is oppressing you if you’re doing better than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:59 PM
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Right men don’t work hard. Never. Only women do that. Now that you’ve overcome your obstacles and dominated every category over men it doesn’t seem that you need feminism to fight oppression anymore. Sounds like you have it pretty good. Far better than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:19 PM
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Being a “decent person” means absolutely nothing. That isn’t going to make women date you. Being a horrible person doesn’t mean you can’t attract women either. In fact that can improve your chances because you are bold and don’t care. You need to be attractive and successful to get picked and that bar is raising every day. That’s not always going to be attainable for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:39 PM
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This is interesting. I’m told woman are so oppressed and have such a hard time. Yet at the same time women are out earning and outperforming men in every category and us peasant men shouldn’t dare pursue them because that would be dragging them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:36 PM
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This post is about influencers. Guys will read comments like yours blaming them. Degrading them. Telling them their natural feelings and emotions are wrong as if they can just be turned off with a switch. Yeah they get zero sympathy from you.. They don’t get it from others like you either. That’s exactly why they oppose you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 02:29 PM
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Normally the Reddit crew comes out and claims around 150-200k. This thread is now full of 300k-500k. Like yeah every regular poster here is just casually making 300k+ posting on Reddit 6 hours a day. Right….. The place is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 03:08 AM
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Again that has nothing at all to do with what YOU said. That’s not the topic of the post and not the topic of your comment. YOU said women don’t insult men this way. I pointed out that they do and you’ve brought up a completely unrelated topic and refuse to address what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:36 PM
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It’s irrelevant to the discussion. Being irrelevant is not the same thing as not being important. Those have two separate meanings. You claimed men being insulted for their inability to attract women was not status quo and only was done by one or two people. The discussion is whether or not this happens. Which it does commonly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 04:35 PM
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That’s not what I’m asking you and has nothing to do with what I’ve said. Using men’s inability to attract women is very much status quo as he mentioned. The same ones who tell you it’s ok to be single will be the same ones to insult you for it. And to address the other question very few. These men are rarely even around women period and don’t have the chance to interact with them at all. The men who are actually a problem such as what you’ve described are the ones actually in relationships or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:41 PM
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So there are only one or two women who have ever used men’s inability to attract women as an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:16 PM
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Exactly. That comment also assumes the same. Assuming as if men are looking for advice on how to maintain a relationship. No. They are trying to figure out how to get into one. That couple that’s been together long term does have much useful to add on that topic when they can barely remember dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:02 PM
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So are you saying you think this movement is possible but it won’t make a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:14 AM
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I’m not giving conservative woman a pass as if they have no part in this. They have animosity too. They are also buried in social media. They aren’t immune to participating in movements against men. I still said it’s unlikely but I’m not ruling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:09 AM
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It’s unlikely but I wouldn’t rule anything out. We have seen some similar movements like this gain traction. Women already have more animosity towards men now and that has become popular online. I think it depends on how large the abortion issue gets. We’re already told constantly of how they are so much happier being single without us so they have a that hate to build on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:30 AM
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And also notice how the only group targeted here is men. As if only men voted conservative. I guess conservative women who voted for this get a pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:27 AM
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You can do all of that and they will still be the 1%. There are already laws that address this, yet they are still the 1%. The point is this is not something that no one is aware of because they are distracted. Everyone who is not rich wants more economic equality. Both parties promise to deliver this yet neither one will so it’s not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:26 AM
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This isn’t some ancient secret that no one else knows. You can’t wake up and decide to change the 1%. It’s not what anyone thinks it’s reality. This isn’t a movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:07 AM
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Pretty much everyone is aware of the 1%. They don’t need to conjure up some nationwide conspiracy to divide people. They will be the 1% regardless if people are divided or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:35 PM
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You said that it’s not what’s being valued but it is. Having a ton of sex is experience. Women value experience in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 04:18 AM
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That’s what greed does. They have all of the leverage to control the dating market and will use that power to have their cake and eat it too. But don’t you dare ever point that out because “confirmation bias”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:49 PM
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They are both valued. Theres no reason to pretend women don’t value experience and the fact that other women want him. That’s why the term pre selection exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 11:43 PM
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I’m not going to sum up the safe option of only being a simp but no one chooses to be boring or having reliability as their only trait. That’s all they know. It’s usually not a straightforward yes or no choice. If a woman thinks rollercoasters are exciting and a guy hates them because they make him sick she’ll call him boring. Him pretending like he likes them to be “exciting” is not going to work out well long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:43 AM
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Please don’t ask this. There’s a load of complete bullshit coming of what they’ll construct about what’s men’s value is. The imaginary “EQ” , household chores, etc. A bunch of useless shit that won’t attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:14 AM
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No they don’t and they don’t care to understand. As with all of these issues they don’t care how men feel they care about how they benefit. They know they have the leverage to settle down with the safe option if necessary after they’ve had their fun. They don’t care how he feels about it they care that he will cooperate. They will package it as a positive because they want men to be accepting of it in case they decide that’s what they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:13 AM
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It’s not a choice. It’s who you are. At that point you’re pretending to be someone you’re not and that’s not going to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:10 AM
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Ha saying that because it’s repeatedly said here and many places by women. Women can sense desperation. They can sense you don’t respect them. They can sense anger. This is all told to men who are rejected yet they now somehow can’t sense anything when it comes to players or attractive men and just believe whatever they’re told.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:22 PM
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It’s more about needing to impress you in order to have any type of relationship that involves multiple interactions. It’s less about respect because you can say you respect the guy next to you at the bar yet never interact or acknowledge his presence. If he wants that he needs to unless you and prove he can provide something whether that be physical or emotional. I’ve found that guys are way more open to others. You can say it’s for safety or whatever reason but it’s a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 01:57 AM
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You don’t have to impress me to be a part of the team. That’s the difference. With women you do. You say you respect them but these guys aren’t allowed anywhere near you or your circle without providing value to you or having to impress you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:12 PM
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They’re going to hyper focus on this hypothetical example and try to justify an imaginary scenario while they ignore the entire premise of the post which is that women support other women regardless of if they are in the wrong or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:16 PM
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It’s not the individual who decides sex is tied to their worth. It’s others who do it for them. If you’re telling him not to tie his worth to his ability to have sex why are you using kissless virgin as an insult to use their lack of sex as a weapon against them? It’s comments of yours like this that perpetuate this idea. “I mean, if you’ve never experienced female horniness, that sounds like a “you” problem. “Plenty of redpill men”, you mean the other kissless 30 yr old autistic virgins on this…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:28 PM
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This is a huge difference I’ve seen from men and women. I’ll respect others because they’re a part of the team. You do not have to impress me or prove you contribute to me. For women you need to be providing something for them to keep you around. You need to impress or demonstrate your worth to them. Another reason why men are striving to prove their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:11 PM
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Right. On top of the virtue signaling lies about how theres no losing attraction when guys are vulnerable and open up, they will use any weakness you tell them in confidence against you as soon as they get the chance. They are unified in their support towards the idea this is acceptable for men to do too. Helping others to all have a leg up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 07:05 PM
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Maybe not a virgin but if you have a semi fit guy in tech that mainly interacts with only men he could easily fall into an extended drought. How are you going to crawl out of that hole? Dating apps? Making six figures and being fit won’t get you very far now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 09:17 PM
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So if you’d sleep with guys you don’t find attractive you’d also want relationships with guys that aren’t attractive also?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:01 PM
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What percentage of men do you find attractive? All I’ve seen from women is that they don’t find most guys attractive. So there has to be some average guys getting graded as unattractive. Unless you find the majority of men physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 03:28 AM
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This is all I was looking to know. A lot got emotional about this comment it seems. Glad you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:55 PM
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Cool. You aren’t quite catching what I’ve said. She’s not interested in locking down some uggo she didn’t want to bang. This means attractive men only. You aren’t attractive you get rejected. If you know they aren’t going to go out of their way to date an unattractive guy then don’t tell those guys it’s because of their personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:44 PM
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So the women on this post stating the opposite aren’t logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:35 PM
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And this is the exact response I’m talking about. Most women you know never have sex until they’re in a serious relationship and are completely celibate otherwise? You’re implying that women are not ok with casual sex when you say things like most you know have never done it. Never at any point. If women enjoyed it they’d be doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:30 PM
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It’s not a matter of failing to comprehend. This is the first answer I’ve see that actually admitted to doing this. You’re saying this is basic logic yet the comments are filled with women stating the opposite and refusing to acknowledge this happens. So are they unable to comprehend basic logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:24 PM
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Probably because when the topic comes up here it’s swarmed by women all saying they don’t engage in casual sex and giving us lectures on how uncommon it is. I’ve seen white knights here constantly spamming articles supposedly suggesting the idea few women engage in casual sex and that thought only exists on social media. If I say that casual sex is normal and common among women i would get met with extreme hostility and opposition here. Mainly from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:07 PM
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Ok so you are only hooking up with and also dating physically attractive men. Pretty much dispelling the thought of average looking men succeeding with women because of thier personality being a draw to long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:02 PM
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I have been in relationships and yes everyone is a potential cheater. Being in relationships is the main experience that taught me anyone could cheat at any time. You’re just trusting and hoping that they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 02:01 AM
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Then how is it they don’t understand life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:33 AM
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What’s not being understood here? Everything that’s being discussed is clearly defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:09 AM
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I must have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:07 AM
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Yeah no shit.. Where was I ever debating if this was true? I’m discussing the fact that women flat out deny this and the methods they use to downplay it as delusional when in reality it is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:04 AM
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That’s great but it doesn’t mean you’re now immune to being cheated on. That’s all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:11 PM
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I have a hard time believing that someone who has experienced the pain of infidelity never has the thought cross their mind again and has zero concerns going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:59 PM
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This is what happens when they answer honestly. Podcasters will be written of as delusional for saying you can cheat as a top percentage male. Yet here we see multiple women making every excuse of why it’s ok. It’s just one time. It was a long time ago. He still comes home to me. It’s usually not as straightforward as straight up sharing but it happens very subtly. This also reinforces pre selection. Reminding her that he still has interest from other women which feeds her attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:54 PM
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Ok but did you go around beforehand telling anyone who asked that your bf would never cheat and pretend that the thought doesn’t even cross your mind as if it’s impossible to the point a test isn’t worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:45 PM
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I know they only want me under the condition I provide something to them whether that be money or anything else. I’ve said relationships are transactional. I figured this a long time ago. Yet if I say that here it’s mainly women and white knights who actively oppose this. They’ll say it’s a sad way to view relationships and that’s not what they really are. And where are these women that accept this? Just saw another post filled with women talking about how amazing their husbands are and how they…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:14 PM
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Once again everyone on Reddit is 100% sure they’d never be cheated on because that have the perfect relationship where he’d never we do anything wrong. So perfect they have never had the thought of him cheating. Even the ones who have been cheated on or dated a cheater will never admit it here. Here their relationship is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:04 PM
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After social media yes women do have more solidarity. It sounds like you’re talking about the period before this. Now there is more of a divide between the top percentage of men and the rest. They’ll siphon off every women they can. They don’t care if they’re ruining the dating market or screwing over other men. They want it all. The competition among average men is fiercer than ever and they’ll be so starved they’ll snake you out to get any crumb they can. Then you have white knights who have b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:50 AM
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That is exactly what we’re discussing. You can see that in the title and post. You aren’t discussing this and bringing up separate issues. This is not about why you should make friends either. There are 2 types of friends of women being discussed here that they can be compatible with: Friends she finds attractive and would possibly date if all circumstances are right. One example of this is when women date men that they’ve been friends with first, this is the period of them being friends before …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:32 AM
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It’s not that I care why you think they choose friends. It’s irrelevant to the discussion. The only piece that matters here is if she thinks her friend is attractive and dateable. We’re discussing the types of friends that benefit mens chances with dating. Not why you think they’re friends. You don’t believe in social proof so there’s no use.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:23 AM
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It does because that’s how she’s going to portray him to other women. You’ve gone too far to the extreme to act as if women aren’t capable of determining if a guy is attractive if she’s not actively pursuing him. Have you never heard women claiming to be friends first before dating? They don’t need to immediately go for him. Women are friends with guys they find attractive and that are attractive. How are you even trying to argue this? The point is these are the types of friends that benefit men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:57 AM
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You aren’t breaking anything to me. Women don’t try to sleep with every guy they find attractive. They keep some as friends. That’s not even the topic of the discussion. This discussion is focused on the benefit that having women as friends gives men. If they’re friends because he’s unattractive it’s not going to help as much because they’ll make that clear. If they acknowledge he’s desirable and attractive but they aren’t together because of other circumstances then that’s going to actually pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 12:24 AM
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I guess from a women’s perspective they’re consider it bad. What differences are you watching in how they act? What specifically is bad about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:51 PM
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Why would I try to have an actual discussion with you? Of course the classic“I don’t understand so you’re stupid!1?” Men who have an ounce of awareness do in fact think about all of this and plan accordingly. You don’t think they do because… well you don’t do much thinking at all. You just act. You clearly aren’t on a level to comprehend anything I’ve just said so it’s pointless to explain any of it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:29 PM
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Yeah women probably won’t be friends with undesirable men in the first place so the scenario in the op probably won’t be as common but if you think they’re attractive enough to date that’s really all they need to benefit. Also why does a man’s ability of socializing platonically with women determine whether or not he has bad personality? Could it not be they simply don’t have as much common with women? If a guy socializes mainly with other men that makes his personality bad and undesirable becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:19 PM
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This would count. You respect them romantically as you’ve given them the credit of being attractive and not struggling with women. The reason you aren’t interested is because there’s no chemistry. Not because they’re unattractive or awkward. You’ve given him the respect of being desirable. If you described him as unattractive or weird being the reason the green flag is gone. Do you have friends you consider unattractive or struggling with women? Or is every one of them attractive and doing well?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:11 PM
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Hate to pick this comment out randomly but i haven’t seen anyone mention what appears to be the moral of the story here. Women seem to overwhelmingly pick Adam in this thread and acknowledge him as the better man. Yet when it comes to deciding who to date they are most likely to pick Caleb because his attractiveness outweighs all else. It’s a prime example of nice guys finish last.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:11 PM
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The problem being discussed here is that you need to have the ability to do so if you so choose. The guy who wishes he could be with his female friends but never tries because none of them find him attractive is not benefiting from a green flag. There isn’t much proof there to be gained. They’re perceived as friend material and not relationship material and that’s the image that will be passed along. The guy who has or could hook up with one of them but chooses not to is. He does benefit because…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:55 PM
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How does this disagree? This can be totally in line with what they’ve said. It’s not that guys shouldn’t have female friends. It’s that the type of relationship you have with them matters. He brings up the point of them being social meaning they will be sharing their perception of you with everyone they’ve introduced you to. So if you’re brought along as the gay bestie this isn’t going to help much. They have to sexually respect you. As in we’re friends but we aren’t hooking up because I know hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:42 PM
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These issues have straightforward answers. If you want to lose weight you can eat less and look on a scale and see the number drop. The op says average men struggle to get into relationships. There is no straightforward answer of how to solve this with the complexities of women’s requirements. Women entering destructive relationships is a simpler issue to solve but also not as straightforward either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:26 PM
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Those aren’t the only ones being pursued. A large variety of women are actively pursued and have an array of options. A small subset of men are. Women even in this thread have admitted they all find a small amount of men to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:05 AM
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Didn’t you say your guy right now is not attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:19 PM
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Why would you date guys you aren’t physically attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:17 PM
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Yet it doesn’t matter even if this is true. They are going to choose him over average guys regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:13 PM
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By dating one person at a time… You don’t need to be dating multiple guys at once to know if you like them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:02 PM
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Great. We’ve established people that women want attractive men. So they are correct in saying being kind is not necessary in attracting women. And when unattractive men are rejected I’d imagine you’d say it’s because of their appearance rather than their ever so popular personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:13 PM
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Right. So to unattractive men being kind and respectful gets you nothing. They just buy care about this if you are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:34 PM
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Idk but look at the overwhelmingly negative response men get from simply discussing dating issues. That’s if it’s even acknowledged at all as being true. The mainstream probably wants to appeal to women and as we’ve seen they absolutely hate when men’s issues are brought up. Especially when the issues involve them. If you aren’t helping them they don’t want to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:53 PM
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Women select men largely by factors they cannot control. Yet when men speak on rejection here they are told it’s their fault and they need a “personality”. In reality there’s probably nothing those men can do. These women clearly feel that the reality of why they reject these men is wrong. Because it’s based on qualities those men can’t change. So they are the ones trying to justify and excuse it. If you want to know if the actions need to be excused you’d need to ask the women here who go out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 08:52 PM
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And if you never ask them out you get nowhere. You have to do this at some point for it to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:50 PM
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We haven’t. The only reason they claim we have is to justify womens action of rejection. Women here will tell men they’re rejected because of approach, hygiene, or some other bullshit so they can blame the men and excuse the women’s decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:39 PM
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Sure yes but they don’t know any better. So I do feel a sense of responsibility to do the right thing since they don’t think long term or know what’s best for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:22 PM
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My god what incredibly weak logic. It’s completely broken when a woman dates two men who have completely different physical features. Oh she dated a guy with blonde hair so she only dates men with blonde hair. The worst part is that you think this solved anything. This also assumes you have access to a full scan of every guy every woman dated which of course.. you don’t. That’s why we’re discussing it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:24 PM
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This looked a lot like another one of their posts. There is not a shock that they like attractive guys. No one outside of dedicated blue pills believe them. They are shocked women here blatantly lie about it pretending you will attract women without it to appear less shallow. When they lie they are called out and that’s what you will see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:09 AM
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The actual issue is with them lying about it by downplaying the value of looks and diminishing its importance so you don’t appear shallow. NOT the actual fact looks matter. That’s if you acknowledge looks at all. If a guy who struggles with women is discussed here they’ll say it’s his personality, social skills, charm, hobbies… literally anything but admitting he’s rejected because of his looks. Then if it’s brought up it’s actively denied. This is why.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:58 AM
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I didn’t miss anything. I don’t know what they define as physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:30 AM
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Good guys don’t do this. You date one woman at a time. If it doesn’t work out you then can move to another. Dating and being intimate with multiple women at once is fucked up. You know no one’s going to be ok with this. They all think they have a chance with you while that’s not the plan. Most men don’t have this opportunity to date multiple women at once so it’s really not even an important discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:29 AM
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So all women want the same thing physically and there is no differential that needs to be explained? How can anyone define what you find physically attractive but you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:49 AM
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No. You aren’t. Good guys aren’t going to date multiple women in the first place because stringing them along like that is fucked up and unless they’re attractive they aren’t going to have the luxury of dating multiple women anyway. Women aren’t attracted to good. Good is boring until they need stability to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:53 AM
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It’s not woe is me. You can be the aggressive asshole or the bad guy and win. No one is denying it’s possible to do it just feels wrong. A good guy isn’t going to string multiple women along and use them or be aggressive towards strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:23 AM
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Not sure what you mean but when I see one in a relationship she’s either bragging about her BF or complaining about him. I can’t necessarily call it a red flag because it’s what I’ve seen so frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:05 AM
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The lines can be blurred quite often and guessing by signals is not always efficient. I’m not giving a pass for poor and unclear communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:03 AM
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When most of them do this is it even worth pointing out? It’s in their nature at this point. The only ones who aren’t bragging are the ones complaining about something he did. How often do you see one not under this category?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:52 AM
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Yes it happens constantly whenever this topic comes up. You say things like this then when a woman is asked what she likes in a guy she lists stereotypical answers such as personality and charisma instead of any physical features.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:50 AM
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In the tdlr he specifically mentions men who objectify women and treat them as replaceable. I’m pointing out that those same men are also aggressive and ignorant to women’s feelings. He’s reflecting on the sad state of dating. The good guys lose and the bad guys win. It feels wrong being the bad guy and being rewarded but at the end of the day that’s what they want and we need to give it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:29 AM
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To most women. You don’t make a move or spice it up at the right time as he described your chance is gone one she’s to the next on the roster. The most aggressive that go for what they want regardless of her feelings are the guys who are rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:22 AM
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Cool you’re repeating your buzzwords and catchphrases. You need to outline what attractive is. Height weight skin tone build hair clothes.. Most of you deny physical attractiveness is even a factor. You make comments like this then turn around go tell guys they need to work on their personality to attract women. Completely ignoring their physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:20 AM
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That is exactly how communication works. They just aren’t good at it. You don’t just ask where have all the good men gone. We need to know what type of men are eligible. You can’t assume they are all attractive because they haven’t defined what attractive is and they probably don’t even know how. If someone tells me oh I want a good guy with tons of underlying unspoken requirements behind it they haven’t told me anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:16 AM
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He’s pointing out that the most aggressive and ignorant men are winning so long as they are attractive and “charm”. That’s who women reward. They’re using status to play multiple women at a time and continue to be rewarded for it. Something more moral would be slowly progressing at her pace and being nice while dating one at a time. But this is boring to them and will be rejected and left.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:29 PM
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Oh no it does need to be stated. Because instead of describing the physical characteristics she wants she’ll instead say personality and charisma are what’s important to her. Also asking where have the good men gone implies there are no good men and is often times a dig at men in general. When they ask where the 6’1 slim, toned, tan, European engineer good guys have gone it’s more accurate. But they want to pretend they aren’t shallow so they just say good men. You have to describe the physical …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:18 PM
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Oh with the advent of social media and dating yes, yes they have. Especially since when you were dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:47 PM
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No. That’s not what my life had been like. You haven’t dated in 20 years. It’s not how it was. Before 2015 I wouldn’t be saying this. Now I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:38 PM
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It’s not what I think it’s what I see. The reality of what dating apps and social media have created is sad yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:32 PM
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Don’t think no one here has ever been in a relationship. You have a problem because I’m pointing out the ugly truth about what relationships are and not putting you on a pedestal. This isn’t a Disney movie where it’s: you be a good husband and you be a good wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:18 PM
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Why try to justify it? Why not just call it what it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:15 PM
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Women rarely give out love. They typically put up with men they end up settling for as long as they’re getting resources out of it because they can’t reach the top percentage of men they really want. It’s not a mindset it’s and observation and experience of reality. Once that providing stops that love you thought you had is gone and you’re replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:10 PM
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That is exactly what relationships are. A business transaction and competition. You’re competing against the other men pursuing her to win her over. Then if you do, you’re responsible to constantly provide value to her or she will leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:38 PM
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I’ve been there and done that and it’s nothing close to what you’ve described. You go out to different bars and clubs with people you knew beforehand. No one goes to the same bar and goes to it every weekend. In the 90s maybe you did. In the modern world you get relationships from college, work, or dating apps. Cold approach is done. Hobbies are done. Seeing someone more than once is not an excuse for them to accept you and they will treat it as a cold approach because they still don’t know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:23 PM
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Its doesn’t matter if they are doing it or not. If I go to bars single women are supposed to be more inclined to my approach just because we both go to bars? They aren’t going to want me just because we both frequent bars. A shitload of other guys will be there also. Being into “coffee culture” is granting you access to meeting single women how exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:38 PM
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Right. Another explanation to the guy I replied to that is questioning why it’s seen as a male only need.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:51 AM
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Great and they deny every one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:18 AM
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Probably because women are the ones screaming that sex isn’t a need while men typically don’t. They rarely speak up in support of this idea
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:22 AM
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You don’t lack access to single women because you can go to a bar or play music? Any guy can do that and approach women. Because I’m drinking a coffee and she is also she’s now inclined to talk to me where she wouldn’t be otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 11:46 PM
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Oh yeah I’m sure you’re pulling left and right. Every guy in here has made clear that they are. And what are these hobbies that allow men to constantly meet new single women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 08:20 PM
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What female dominated hobbies do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:24 PM
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This is what you want it to mean. I guarantee you their answer would be completely different. Not shaming women does not get you a relationship and it does not make you attractive. It’s not as simple as don’t shame women then get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:39 PM
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There is not verified answer as to what “adapt to our 21sr century style of living” means and there never will be. You all need to stop acting like there is some simple answer to women that men all know but refuse to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:02 PM
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There is not verified answer as to what “adapt to our 21sr century style of living” means and there never will be. You all need to stop acting like there is some simple answer to women that men all know but refuse to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:02 PM
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The majority of women have or have had an IG and have at least used a dating app at one point. Are you a Genx or boomer who hasn’t always had the internet around? You aren’t getting past college without an ig or any social media in 2024. Single women have rosters now with multiple options to pick from. We can pretend single women don’t have sex but they do. Most women have close and intimate relationships with other women. That’s the point. It wasn’t equated to a lesbian relationship. It was sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:28 PM
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This has nothing to do with effort. Women don’t date effort or the hardest worker. They date the most attractive and high status. What are you opposing? This goes along with what the op is saying. Women are the initiators of divorce meaning they are quick to dispose of the man as the op points out. They can claim they are looking for partners to make their life better. This isn’t denied because the question is not if but how is this done and that’s by the man providing resources and status to he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:07 PM
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I don’t see anything that’s not accurate here. Of course it’s not everyone but it’s typical. What’s alien about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:55 PM
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You don’t really. It’s their job to always portray and act as though they are the exception. I expect the worst when I observe and experience the worst. I’d be dumb not to because as soon as they see any vulnerability they will attack it and use it for their gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:44 PM
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Then why did you group them and mention them together (shy and not good at talking to women). If you’re saying shy guys struggle to get women, what’s the opposite of shy that’s succeeding? Also what is good at talking to women? I thought men and women aren’t so different and are equal according to those here. Why and how would you need to talk to a women differently if we are all just people as they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:50 PM
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Then why did you group them and mention them together? If you’re saying shy guys struggle to get women, what’s the opposite of shy that’s succeeding? Also what is good at talking to women? I thought men and women aren’t so different and are equal according to those here. Why and how would you need to talk to a women differently if we are all just people as they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:42 PM
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This is so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:26 PM
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Obnoxious isn’t shy and is plenty of talking so it sounds like these guys are winning
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:16 PM
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Loudest man wins. Who can run their mouth the most?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:17 PM
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That’s not how it is for men. They can’t put on makeup. You’re framing this as if women aren’t attracted to men because the men don’t try when it’s not this. If all men tried women would still claim most men are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:09 PM
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None of this makes attractiveness the result of trying. Now you’ve pivoted to shift blame to rich men. Are you telling me you’re unable to decide what you think is attractive and need rich men to tell you what to be attracted to? Do you need someone else to make your decisions? Because I doubt you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:42 PM
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Attractiveness for men is not a matter of choice or effort for men as women here claim. Its not as simple as lose weight and put on makeup or just try. But I get it. When you frame attractiveness as a choice and a matter of effort you can now blame the man for every rejection and pretend each rejection was under his control. Absolving the woman of any accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:25 PM
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How would men benefit from this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:39 PM
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Are you purposely acting this oblivious? It’s common sense. You’re terrified of admitting women have an easier time dating than men. Where’s the ones claiming women acknowledge this? We have one in denial right here who is frantically doing everything to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:28 PM
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Because multiple women can date the same man. Are we really denying that they have an easier time dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:54 PM
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But we’re not talking about getting zero dates. We’re talking about women getting more dates and having it easier in dating because they are advantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:26 PM
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This is the problem. Women are not better at dating because of skill. Simply being female is the advantage and gives you the leverage to do more with zero skill required.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:00 PM
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They can identify better quality women but what good is that if they’re not attractive enough to pull them? That’s if they’re even available which typically these types of women are not. If all of them have been out to get you then you’ll need to enter each situation on guard because if you don’t then they will get you. Ideally it would be great to just find and date better woman but I just don’t see how that’s done because that’s what every guy has been trying to do since the beginning. Some ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:27 PM
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This is a bit dramatic but there is some truth to the situation. These men do naturally develop negative views towards women because they’ve had these constant negative experiences with them. When you’re in the bottom 80% there are some women that will date you but these are the types of experiences you’ll typically have. A lot of them will just be using or manipulating you or just flat out treating you poorly because you aren’t what they really wanted. The good ones will be snatched up by the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:05 PM
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Let’s be real. If a guy is with a woman who wants a mansion while he wants a one bedroom it’s going to be on him to get them there or she leaves for someone who can. The woman’s needs are put first because they have the leverage. It’s unlikely it will play out this way with the woman in the lead to fulfill her wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:13 AM
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They will say they did just like you said you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:34 PM
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She’ll last until there’s an opportunity. You leave for a week and you end up in a long distance situation that’s all she needs. How long can guys avoid that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:05 PM
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So everyone can find a relationship immediately whenever they want or else they are a fucked up person?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:36 PM
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Because it barely applies to anyone. Do you think the unattractive guy who got rejected will be accepted if he tries again with “personality”? They purposely apply it to men because men are the ones who receive blame for their actions while also receiving the blame for women’s actions. It’s an excuse to continue the women are wonderful effect by blaming women’s bad decisions on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:34 PM
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I’ve always found this weird. These are a group of guys who have never done anything to you and don’t get to interact with women so they can’t cause issues. You’ll probably never have to interact with them. You hate them why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:04 PM
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Then it sounds like they would love this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:01 PM
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The ones who get cheated on think their partner isn’t interested in cheating and trusted them also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:59 PM
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That not cheating assumption is a bold one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:56 PM
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They should probably stop claiming they are happier being single then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:48 PM
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I thought women are happier being single and men aren’t good enough? Sounds like they would love this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:31 PM
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Generalizations are perfectly fine to make if they’re positively portraying women or negatively portraying men. According to this sub at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:55 PM
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So you’re accusing him of having nothing to offer while you also have nothing to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:17 PM
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That’s not an option all men have. If it was they wouldn’t be on apps in the first place. If you’re a guy with no prospects it’s cold approach or apps. Your social circle is already tapped out of resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:29 PM
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What do you have to offer that makes you better than him? How would you know he has nothing to offer? At this point I’d pick him over you to meet based on the comments and how you’re coming off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:20 PM
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Them getting used = a really fun time and sex. I guess we’ll ignore the fact that these women want a relationship with these men while he continues to run around single. But if you’re going to excuse women’s behavior there’s no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:54 PM
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There aren’t women who complain about men? Have you never seen twox? Getting used by higher tier men is not scoring. You aren’t getting any rewards for sucking up to women like this. There’s no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:41 PM
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Because they’re trying to date men out of their league while the guy strings them along for casual encounters. You can’t seriously be this biased. You’re here making a whole post about men needing to lower their standards yet when it comes to women you give them a free pass to do whatever they want because “Why should they?”. Use that same answer when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:15 PM
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Why do they have negative feelings to the group that’s constantly rejecting them, insulting them, and telling them they aren’t good enough? It’s a natural human reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 03:10 PM
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Women expect men to be the leaders, do the initiating, and approach. So yes there will be times where friendliness is treated as romantic interest. It’s not always as obvious as women make it out to be. I’m only answering the question of if it’s being withheld. Your male friends seemed safe enough for you to go out of your way to give them affection. What did they do differently? I can’t fully solve this because I don’t know the process of how you approve a man from random you don’t know to male…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:03 PM
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Try reading the definition of withhold. I don’t care what you think it implies. You don’t understand what the word means.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:53 PM
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It’s like asking did I give money to the homeless? When the answer is no. Read the title of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:50 PM
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Great. That’s not what you asked. You asked if it was withheld. You’re admitting you are withholding because men are ugly strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:48 PM
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You’re asking me to solve a large scale issue. Ideally they would show affection to the guys who aren’t receiving any. This could be as easy as acknowledging them and not pretending they’re invisible. Realistically I already answered this. Theres nothing men can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:42 PM
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Very cool. That doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t being received. You choose not to give it. Theres nothing ridiculous or difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:35 PM
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If men aren’t receiving it then it’s being withheld. You are the only ones able to provide it. Theres nothing we can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 07:32 PM
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Technically yes but they don’t care. They’ve monetized it as well. The less affection men receive the more desperate they are to get it. Now you can pay whether it be Of, live streams , whatever to get a slice of affection virtually to help fill the void. Dating apps have monetized men’s loneliness as well. Along with the YouTubers and podcasters who are the only ones willing to provide a solution even if it may not work. They are quite happy watching men squirm so there’s nothing we can do abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:58 PM
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No unfortunately they don’t. The most you will get is some genetic virtue signaling about working on personality. You say this as if every guy can date you if he just knows what to do. You’re only answer you can provide is don’t cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:48 PM
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Is this not obvious? We know it happens.. When you’re faced with such little success and prolonged periods of being alone then yes a bad relationship is better than no relationship. A lot of you don’t know what’s it actually feels like to be alone for any significant period of time. Maybe not at all the way you all talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:26 PM
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We don’t have the answer to that question. You do. Are we going to read your mind? Women won’t give these answers. We see it here daily. When asked they’ll virtue signal some generic bullshit about a good personality where personality isn’t defined. You’ve given no basis other than cheating. You’ve also given no explanation of why you think everyone else needs to be better yet you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:21 PM
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You’re declaring men need to be better which I have no basis in how to define. You’ve said this to and about men. Now you’re declaring this as cheating. I haven’t cheated yet you’re expecting me to do better. Theres nothing for me to improve if that’s the case. And women haven’t cheated so they don’t need to do better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:26 PM
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You know because you’re the one who created this ideal that men must live up to. No one who you’re telling to be better does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:17 PM
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Well it’s probably because one knows wtf “be better” entails and there’s no clear definition of what needs to be done. And also because you’re demanding that everyone else “be better” when you haven’t had to do the same. Treating this as if you’ve started out at the top and have no issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:56 PM
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Easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:45 PM
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Man the Reddit world sounds amazing. Walk outside meet people and they automatically invite a stranger out and introduce this stranger to their stable of several single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:06 PM
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Yes you base relationships and hookups on looks. Do you think women date men they aren’t attracted to? Well this is Reddit so you probably do unfortunately. Being honorable doesn’t mean shit if you aren’t attractive to her. There are plenty of guys who are a complete POS who do great with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:01 PM
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For men yes it is. If she lets every guys she’s dated hit on the first date yet you’re the only one who she’s made wait for 3 months there’s a lack of respect for you as a romantic partner. There is also a lack of attraction. The ones who don’t recognize this are prime to get used and played. Again I expect at least the same amount of respect in not just this category but all of them. Once she knows you are aware of this and stay she knows she can use and manipulate you for anything she wants be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:50 PM
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That’s one form of respect. Not the only one. If she slept with her ex on the first date but expects me to wait a month she doesn’t respect me as she did her ex. If she did not hang out with guys alone 1v1 while with her ex and she now starts going to dinner with other guys while she dates me she doesn’t respect me. You’re asking why would we want the same experience and I’m telling you I’d expect at least the same amount of respect. Why wouldn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:09 PM
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When you care about someone you like knowing their past. You enjoy finding out the person you care about had past hookups with your friends? What’s there to enjoy about that? If she respected her past partners then yes I want that exact same respect. If she gives me less it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:50 PM
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Smaller scale does not mean weekly travel.. I just said they aren’t traveling abroad every weekend. I’m not going to keep repeating the same thing if you don’t read. You’ve quoted “weekly travel” when that isn’t anywhere in the comment. You can still do these activities on the weekends. The point is you once you enter a relationship you’re going to be paying a lot more for them and probably for her too. The point is you will be spending more money in a relationship. If someone was already financ…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:36 PM
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You all actually can’t comprehend that influencers are not the only ones traveling and posting on ig. They all do this just at a smaller scale. They aren’t traveling abroad every weekend. They are doing something every weekend that is going to cost you as a man so you need to be ready to pay up for these experiences. That’s the point. These could be one of several activities that are not exclusive to only lavish travel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:12 PM
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Then I applaud you. But I don’t encounter this so I wouldn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:48 PM
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Again you all think everyone on ig is a model or influencer. You do know regular women that you know post also right? And they’re posting exactly the same thing on a smaller scale. Try looking on a dating app. 90% of those profiles Will mention their love of “travel”. Look at the posts of regular women on ig they are posting restaurants concerts and beaches. This isn’t only for the wealthy there are normal people doing this. You never caught the original point. You’re now trying to be disrespect…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:43 PM
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So first your fiancé stays home with you most days. Now he’s a social butterfly with plans nearly every day of the week? So he’s not “content to be in every weekend playing video games” as you mentioned. And yes i said many guys are like this. Travel is very popular now. With single women. Those are the dating pool so when they are blowing all this money in traveling you better be able to keep up and do the same if you plan on dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:26 PM
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I already said it doesn’t matter if she works or not. You want to be in a relationship you better be ready to spend either way. They won’t be content with a cheap lifestyle. A man will be able to tell you the distinct difference in his finances from when he is in a relationship and when he’s single and not dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:17 PM
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Im talking about mainly long term but both are expensive. I dont really know many cheap date ideas no. Id be ok with this but again id be concerned about them comparing it to their friends dates or what others on IG stories have gotten making this not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:44 PM
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They may exist but I’ve told others the same I don’t encounter them nor do I know how to encounter them so they aren’t relevant to me. These socialites are all I’m exposed to so that’s what I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:21 PM
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Many guys are simple enough to be content with staying home playing video games. Most women are not content with dating men like this. They will say thier standards aren’t met. They want extroverted and “fun” men. This is why “travel” is so popular to the point it’s a meme now. If I were to tell a women my hobbies include being a homebody and playing video games on the weekends this would be an instant turn off and rejection for any non Reddit crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:19 PM
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I don’t have one particular place this is just my overall experience of ones I’ve met at various stages throughout life. What I’ve constantly heard is that they want extroverted outgoing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 05:06 PM
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I don’t encounter women like this. They are all very active. Me implying anything close to being a homebody has received an instant turn off. They want extroverted outgoing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:54 PM
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This line of thinking is exactly what got me into trouble in relationships. You go to the same local restaurants over and over she’s going to get bored and want something different and more exciting. You think you can get by recycling these low excitement activities but long term you cannot. You either pay up for better experiences or she gets bored of the same local routine. I’ve thought this way and learned quickly it’s a route to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:37 PM
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Please look at this comment I just received in this sub minutes ago of a woman describing her social life. This is not cheap and if you plan on being in a relationship you’re going to have to keep up. “Oh right, well I live on this planet called Earth. The other month I went on a mountain scrambling trip, with about 40 other people. Next month I am going to a giant yearly festival. On saturady nights we have these things called cocktail bars. There are also loads of other social activities, sadl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:27 PM
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I don’t believe I know any hot upper income bracket you’re speaking of. I know the women I see are always out to eat at a restaurant, at a club or bar, on vacation, doing something when I check in to see what they’re up to. Middle to low class women aren’t conservatively sitting in the house all day saving money. Do you really think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:24 PM
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I’m asking you why I’m not trying to tell you anything. Where was anything said about me not wanting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:20 PM
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I’ll ask you the same question I had earlier. Do you think a modem woman in 2024 is going to date or stay with you if you’re sitting in the house every weekend? I’ve never seen this to be true. You’re going to have to go out and plan activities constantly. Things are not cheap and women universally love travel. You cannot be a financially conservative homebody and successfully date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:44 PM
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No I don’t see broke men who are able to date. They are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:40 PM
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I’m asking you what it is about this scenario you don’t like because to me it sounds like a positive if I had little responsibility and could so easily please a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:39 PM
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Exactly my point. It’s not cheap but you need to have this to keep her happy and having “fun”. You think a woman will stay with you if you’re sitting in the house every weekend or only going to cheap places? While all her friends are posting vacation photos on Ig.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:37 PM
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Bars are not a third space and don’t even begin to compare to what college can offer socially. Not even close. Bars are a place where you go once in a while drink and leave. You don’t see the same people there repeatedly, there’s always a new group and the music is blasting so it’s almost impossible to speak. People come with a group, talk to the group they came with, and leave. Social clubs don’t exist. Parties are not publicly accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:34 PM
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The planet where there is a lack of third spaces and most people are always on their phones? It’s called reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:29 PM
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You may think we can date anyone we please but that’s not an option. All of them are into “travel” now. They need new IG posts and reels for their story. She can’t be “bored” so you’re going to have to be doing date activities constantly and activities are not cheap. That’s how dating works for men. Relationship are never cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:27 PM
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Most women want the ability to use their man to impress others. On IG, while out, to friends etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:17 PM
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What’s the issue? I would love to receive this scenario. You have simple requirements that are straightforward. You know what your partner wants and have little responsibility. Instead I have a never ending ever changing laundry list of items women demand with requirements so complex they can’t even explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:13 PM
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Oh no you’re going to be spending all your money regardless of if she works or not. You better be going on multiple vacations a year and frequent trips every weekend. Birthday parties, holidays, shopping.. You get a GF you will not be saving money because “fun”. If you don’t gg. “Their money is their money. Your money is also their money.” This famous quote exists for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:07 PM
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I’m amazed someone’s actually still saying this. We’ve reached a point that unquestionably lacks 3rd spaces. College is it. On top of that you’re saying we have more now than ever? So now everyone is not on their phones they are actually all at third spaces more than those who didn’t have constant internet access? Please tell me where all these third spaces are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 02:47 PM
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Yes those top percent might be in relationships… Who are you getting this eternal bachelor information from? Once women realize this they may finally decide to date men on their level and understand they will only be the top percents side chick at best so it’s a waste chasing them. But with social media that one blue check mark that likes your post 2 years ago makes you think you have a chance. Woman have the final say in what men are allowed in social circles. Doesn’t matter what men want they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:40 PM
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Attracted enough to date them. I can’t think of any other explanation because I don’t ever see this actually happening. Some women eventually realize the top percentage aren’t realistic so they give up pursuing them so there’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:57 PM
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No one here is struggling to grasp. Telling guys to just be social is not solving the issue and it’s not anything they don’t already know. What’s the point to telling those in poverty to go make money? If they could they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:55 PM
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That was the only answer you’ve given. You can’t tell someone in poverty to just go make money or just apply and interview to high paying jobs. What are they going to do with that information? The same way you’re telling guys just go socialize, make friends. As if they haven’t done this or didn’t know. What are they going to do with that information? It’s general and not going to help anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:04 PM
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Guys settle for unattractive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:48 PM
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We’ve got to stop treating joining a class as the end all answer to this question. I highly doubt most people suggesting this have actually gone this route. This is just not a popular way that people find dates and the people you do meet will most likely not get personal with the random from a cooking class. They won’t be inclined to introduce you to single women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:44 PM
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It’s easy to be a millionaire if you own a large corporation too, but there is no direction of getting there. Getting into a place that has a constant stream of new single women being introduced to you who are actually willing to speak is not a simple or easy task.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:36 PM
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No why are you concerned with how many friends he has and if he’s fun and exciting?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:00 AM
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I mean why do you prefer these things in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 12:23 AM
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I’m sorry but yes they are indeed rejecting men for the way they look. Looks matter. This is why rejection happens. Women do in fact want to date men they are attracted to physically. Please don’t pretend like this doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:45 PM
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Doesn’t spend thousand vacationing multiple times a year to get ig pics = servant
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:33 PM
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Why are you so concerned about how many friends he has? You’re dating him not his friends. Also why are you so concerned about him being boring? I can’t imagine this because I am responsible for the excitement I experience. I’m not depending on a partner to provide excitement for me. Only to accompany me or have me accompany them if needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:29 PM
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So if you lined up a famous actor and a regular 9-5 Joe most women would prefer to date the average guy when choosing between the two? I have a hard time believing this. Most end up dating a non famous person but how does that guarantee that’s what they prefer? It’s what they got.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:14 PM
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You’ve asked why people deny its importance and have received more denial in the comments instead of explanations. Why is social status so important to them? I don’t fully know but it’s so stupid to me because I couldn’t care less as you said. Some reasons I can think of: They want someone they can show off how important he appears to be. They think a high follower count or large social circle means the he’s successful or is a good person. They feel he has power over others and can use this for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 09:08 PM
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This is complete bs. “It’s your mindset bro”. No it’s not. You’ve just got finished reading multiple comments from women saying they do not accept cold approaches regardless of approach. This has nothing to do with the man’s mindset. What is making small talk going to do with a woman who’s rejecting 98% of men and totally against cold approaches? This is her mindset that’s determined the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:45 PM
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They don’t give a fuck about anyone else. They have what they want and have no desire to help. This is exactly how they want it. So they have all of the power and leverage and men have no answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:38 PM
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When they end up in a relationship with a bad guy all of a sudden now they are so shocked and there’s no way she could have known. But they can just tell when it comes to everything else? They can tell with an unattractive guy who’s inexperienced as everyone else can. Once the guys attractive and has status or has any type of composure she’s eating up his every word.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:38 PM
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Yes you were outcasted by some groups. Just like guys are. This isn’t a matter of no one accepting you. I already said that. Which is why I said it’s a specific group that does it. The groups that don’t shouldn’t expect love back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:19 PM
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The discussion is about unpopular men you don’t need evidence they’re unpopular it’s part of the discussion. Do you not know any unpopular men? Well probably not. Of course you will say you’re one of the good ones who’s never done this. They’ll all say this. Yet it still happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:00 PM
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Defending the bullies I see. I guess they had a good reason. Being sexually unappealing and ignored is the outcasting I’m referring to. That specific group will outcast you for this reason. Not everyone will. You’re going to react much more favorably to the groups that did not outcast you. The social circles that do integrate you will probably not have both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:53 PM
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The discussion was about unpopular men so yes this is what happened to them and that’s probably the extent of their interactions with women. I would anticipate this being the natural reaction. I can’t fully justify everything but I would expect and not be surprised by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:05 PM
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Right. I don’t get why it’s a surprise when there are negative feelings towards the group that did this to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:11 PM
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Not quite. Just not top percentages of these categories that give you the leeway to be as much of a disrespectful asshole as you want and still attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 05:10 PM
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What is the acceptable feeling towards those who have outcast and actively look down on you when you’ve done nothing to them? Wicked sounds appropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:59 PM
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Physical attraction, status and money are more important. Your attitude means nothing when you have these you’ll still attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:57 PM
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You can ask her not to go. If she says yes how is this not ethical?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:07 PM
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What it proves to me is you can give them everything and they still won’t think it’s enough. They’re never satisfied. Not even with one of the most successful and respected men on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:51 PM
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They can’t even define what charisma is. They would all have a different definition if they tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:36 PM
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Wow you are a man. I can tell now that I see you’ve acknowledged you needed several years to accomplish what’s diminished as “bare minimum” by those who don’t understand the work behind the accomplishments. Idk what you have an issue with because you have demonstrated you understand and respect the effort needed to get these things. I was thrown off by the all men are losers talk that a lot of them throw around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:21 PM
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My god this tells me everything I need to know about you. By definition the average is not in the gutter. Its average. Being above average is not mediocrity. It’s above mediocrity. The joke is the guys you can secure for a relationship don’t have any of this. Yet you’re speaking as if you’re dating a Fortune 500 ceo with the body of a professional athlete. The definition of delusional standards. Thinking average is “in the gutter”. Quite a mentality you have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:11 PM
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I’m giving you examples of what it actually means to obtain these accomplishments. Maybe you should have thought about this before opening your mouth because it’s going to make you look terrible. You say being in shape is the bare minimum. Ok where is your six pack? How the fuck is being in shape the bare minimum when so many are obese? If being in physical shape is the bare minimum you better be an Olympic athlete talking shit like you are. Being financially stable is the bare minimum… Do you n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:24 PM
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How privileged do you have to be to think everyone is running around with a 6 pack making 6 figures while also being fiscally responsible who also has a nice place and has no insecurities. I’m sorry but if you look in reality this is not the average person by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:51 PM
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And I’m saying this is not the bare minimum because there are plenty who do not have any of this. These are all respectable accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:19 PM
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For a woman be somewhat in shape physically. That’s it. For a man I have no idea because the bar is always moving and they are never honest about what the bar is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:18 PM
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You’re doing exactly what I said you would. Diminishing the them by calling this the bare minimum. These are by no means easily obtained or expected of everyone. For your side some of them are so I get why you think this is so easy. Being in shape mentally and physically, being financially responsible with a nice place, and having a solid network of people even just 2 friends are all great accomplishments that are not a given and should be celebrated. As he said this requires years of hard work …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:11 PM
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These are all great accomplishments. But women will look at them and then diminish them by saying that’s the bare minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:12 PM
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Anyone who has only met through university can be cast off as a useless opinion truly when it comes to dating advice. They met in the most optimal and easiest environment possible which cannot be replicated and is only available during a short window of time. They aren’t going to be able to provide and valuable insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:10 PM
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It’s call being delusional. By them anyways. The janitor is not going to start dating the ceo. Women date up. Men know this and won’t waste time with women with a title who have that ego of thinking they’re too good for them. And when they do try women will love to use that opportunity to embarrass you for thinking someone of your class has a chance with them as they perceive this as insulting and want to deter others from trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:18 PM
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You didn’t answer the question. You do. A man has to interact with women to successfully operate and fit in to society. If they don’t then others will use that to judge and look down on them. You are no exception and do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:50 PM
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I need specifics of what people think social skills are. This is always said as if the person being told has never tried any of these things before. I need an explanation because I’m being told to do things I’m already doing that yield no results and it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:39 PM
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Other women. This is why pre selection and social proof exist. Who do you respect more. The guy who has female friends and has had multiple relationships or the guy with only male friends and no relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:30 PM
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You think you’re the first one to ever do this? You’re not. Prioritizing health and basic social skills? Being a good person.. Everyone has done this. Unfortunately this means jack shit to being desirable and will still get you rejected. The problem is this not an answer and should not be touted as one. I want to hear the detailed definition so I can tell you I’ve done this and it’s accomplished nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:57 PM
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I cannot stand this 🤡 shit. I’m so tired of guys here trying to flex this. It’s bullshit and a quick identifier that they have no idea what they’re talking about. Even the most successful men on the planet have had problems with women yet everyone here has “never struggled”. Divorce, cheating, arguments, drama, rejection, etc. Who the fuck are you to think you’re so perfect to have avoided these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:45 PM
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Yes. That’s what most relationships are. You have to be providing something for her to stay. It’s not always money but a lot of times it is. It could be stability or social status. Once that resource is gone she will replace you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:42 PM
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Money and muscle are the only things that can be accurately defined. You know how much you have and if you’ve improved. The rest you’ve mentioned has no distinct definition or verifiable ways to improve. I can do what I think is improving looks or personality or those other buzzwords but will that get me anything? Is my idea of a good personality matching with what women want? I wouldn’t be able to verify this or what any of these things mean. You say learn how to talk to women. How does anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:38 PM
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And what do you have to say to those who already lift, are stronger than you and it’s made no difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:49 PM
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This is the key she’s missing. She thinks it will “just happen” as it does for her. Not realizing this experience is not shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:25 PM
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You do see how biased you sound in stating it’s correct that women only reject you for personality and approach yet refuse to believe or acknowledge they can reject you on the basis of looks? So you know so many men who all have no issues yet we don’t have a single example and can’t explain what they’ve done? I can tell you making male friends is a completely different world than relationships. I see and have experienced zero correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:19 PM
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So there’s a million women yet you still tell me that men are rejected because of thier personality or approach? I want to know how you think this works since every guy who is social is doing just fine. I’m not asking about me. These men you speak of who are going out and being social in the real world who have no issues. They can simply decide to go outside when they want a relationship and then what happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:59 PM
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Oh right it’s not possible to be rejected because of looks I forgot. You can only get rejected due to approach and personality. Never because of looks. Totally. Curious of how you think this actually works. Step by step what is happening here? Men walk outside approach any random woman they want with “personality” then they run off into the sunset?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:25 PM
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Oh so I can do all of this you suggested and not get a date? Woah I guess being social does not result in everyone doing just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:08 PM
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This is the only reasonable legit come back to this. Instead of denying this is said like most here you actually go into detail of why it’s said and how dating is navigated with the mindset they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:58 PM
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So I simply walk outside and there are single women waiting to date me? Going out and cold approaching is not going to be the positive experience you’re describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:53 PM
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I hear they have no problem with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:50 PM
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This is a woman saying this. I might need to refer back to this in the next looks don’t matter post. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:49 PM
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Great looks don’t matter post #3255. What is a “better personality”? I have no idea what you think this is or how to demonstrate it. What is letting go of anger and resentment going to accomplish or change as far as women being attracted to you? How would they even know you’ve done this and how is this even demonstrated? What is “shadow work therapy” and what does completing this look like? Again how will women even know you’ve done this? Once this is done women who have no physical attraction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:46 PM
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If they didn’t have this security to fall back on or the lower biological drive I doubt they’d still be going on these breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:46 PM
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Having relationships on demand plays into this decision making it pretty easy. They can forgo the need knowing that they can pick it up instantly whenever they decide to. For a man not knowing when or if you’re ever going to get the opportunity again will effect your decision making on when to enter a relationship and who to do it with as there will be more pressure and desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:35 PM
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I already addressed this. You don’t have a point. They are both verbal like I said since the beginning. That was the point you replied to yet you are still confused. What don’t you understand? This doesn’t apply to me I’m not complimenting at all period.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:17 PM
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