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Or find one that earns her own bank and has no interest in yours. They do exist. Some women like being independent and then sharing that wealth with a loved one when they fall in love with him. Husband and I were on pretty equal earning terms and now I earn double. Guess who has more spending money...the answer is neither of us. We contribute proportionately. He pays less because he earns less, but he's so much more than his pay packet! I'd rather have him than a billionaire.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 08:35 PM
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You do you. It's your life. MGTOW is valid. I'm a woman, and I'm 39. I married for the first time two years ago, and it was because I love my husband. He's everything to me. And I'm all for equality in that I don't believe men are inherently better or more valuable than women, or vice versa. No "blue" or "pink" jobs in our house. We pitch in equally, or one of us does more if the other is having a shit day. Genuinely, I'm not here to be a "pick me."" I couldn't give a flying fuck either way, but…
/r/MensRights21/10/24 08:30 PM
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As a woman, I'm glad they've equalised retirement age in the UK. No reason at all why I should retire at 60 and my husband at 65 (its now 68 for us both though. Which is a whole higher level of shite)
/r/MensRights13/08/24 04:09 PM
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It sounds like you have had to handle more than most people! You do deserve love. The healthy kind of love that makes you secure, happy, and feeling like you can truly be yourself. I've been in abusive relationships (and experienced a lot of what you have experienced) and it took a bloody good therapist, some treatment for post traumatic stress and a few years all in all, to feel like I could move forward with my life and have regard for myself again. It's a tough journey and I wish you well on …
/r/MensRights22/04/24 02:58 PM
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I am incredibly sorry to hear that. What you experienced was NOT OK. Not in any way, shape, or form. You are worthy of love, respect, and dignity as a human being, and absolutely no one has the right to take that away from you.
/r/MensRights22/04/24 04:44 AM
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My god. Which sub is this from?
/r/MensRights22/04/24 04:42 AM
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I know when I'm ovulating. It hurts like hell and frustrates me in more ways than one. Still, it doesn't make me coerce my husband into sexy time. Behaviour by some women towards men is truly, truly appalling.
/r/MensRights22/04/24 04:41 AM
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Oh wow, I'm so sorry. As a woman, what has happened to you is appalling.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 05:54 PM
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100% not. Sorry, I should have explained my original edit
/r/MensRights08/07/23 08:12 AM
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I was saying that I'd gone and made an absolutist statement and then realised it could come over like I was saying I'd cheated!
/r/MensRights08/07/23 08:12 AM
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Why is it abhorrent?
/r/MensRights08/07/23 08:02 AM
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Cheating is abhorrent behaviour. Always. I don't know if we're even allowed to make absolutist statements about the morality of the world we live in /s/
/r/MensRights08/07/23 08:01 AM
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OK, sorry about that. It's not deliberate gaslighting from my side, but I hear you. My sisters and mum have always been very similar. We may indeed be anomalies but I'd hazard a guess that there are more of us out there than you know!
/r/MensRights01/07/23 03:52 PM
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I'm only saying that because I'm not an anomaly or really that special. Just normal. Statistically. There will be lots of other women out there exactly the same
/r/MensRights01/07/23 03:44 PM
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Is it weird that I've never looked at men on that 1-10 scale? I think you've all got a little something special going on in some way. It's probably because I'm a strictly personality over looks person. If a man can make me laugh and interests me, I tend to start finding him attractive! I think intelligence and a good nature, as well as the ability to put up with my potty humour is the best mix.
/r/MensRights01/07/23 03:43 PM
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I love seeing dads playing with their children at the park. As a woman, I don't feel all suspicious and weird about it. I am so sorry that you have experienced this, what is wrong with people!!
/r/MensRights27/06/23 07:10 AM
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Women hate that one as well. And it's usually other women!
/r/MensRights27/06/23 07:07 AM
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I'd like that for you too. I hope we get there one day, one woman at a time. I'll certainly do my bit ❤️
/r/MensRights27/06/23 07:05 AM
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I think what I'm trying to say is that I hear you. I'm here to learn more about men and understand life more from your perspective. I've met some lovely people here and hope you don't mind my chiming in occasionally ❤️
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:05 PM
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I think that we all, men and women, have a responsibility to keep ourselves safe. I can, however, understand the reluctance from women to change their behaviour. From our perspective, men have a lot more freedom to just DO STUFF. Until you've walked home from the bus stop with your keys between your fingers, hoping that the guy who got off the bus behind you won't grab you, it's hard to understand. I do get that. I also understand that my perspective on it in no way takes the male experience int…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 06:04 PM
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Also, as a woman, I abhor other women who make false accusations and think that a proven liar should be sent straight to prison for a very long time. No excuse for ruining someone's life
/r/MensRights26/06/23 04:39 PM
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That's a very reasoned response, and I thank you for it. I genuinely love men and, like I said in my original comment, have actually paid for therapy to deal with my fears. Mine were based on real things that happened to me, so had basis in reality; however, it is on ME to deal with that and not scapegoat all men. Trust me, I'm no raging leftie feminist. I firmly believe that men and women have equal value, but I'm not one of these "toxic masculinity is EVILLLLL" people. I married a beautiful, k…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 04:37 PM
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Well, that's rather impolite!
/r/MensRights26/06/23 11:49 AM
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I appreciate the insight, so thank you. This is your space, and I'll politely withdraw.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 07:34 AM
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We're smaller and weaker than you are. That's pretty much it. I'm not as afraid as I used to be, but I've been harassed, followed home, felt up, and all sorts by random men at different times. I'm 164cm tall and 120 lbs. I would stand NO CHANCE of successfully defending myself against a dude who decided I was on the menu on that particular day. Men talk about how women are not as logical but doesn't it make logical sense to be cautious of strange men when these things have happened to you? I'm n…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 04:05 AM
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I agree. I have two brothers and two sisters, and it helped me understand a lot about how both sexes struggle. I'm female, and one of my brothers had massive issues with anxiety when we were teenagers. He's thriving now. Did I see him as any less of a worthwhile person when he was struggling? Not at all. Men and women are complicated, heterogenous creatures. I'm married to a beautiful man with his own personalty, strengths and immense vulnerabilities, just like any other human being and I value …
/r/MensRights24/06/23 08:54 PM
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You're very welcome. I do know lots of women who haven't fallen into that "all men are bad" trap. Sorry you've experienced hostility on women's subs, that's unacceptable
/r/MensRights18/06/23 11:08 AM
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That woman is a dickhead. Wow. You handled that like a champ.
/r/MensRights18/06/23 05:23 AM
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I understood you perfectly. I made the choice to respond to certain elements of your comment for a reason, and your subsequent reply has proven that my reasoning for this was, indeed, correct. We're clearly not going to agree, and, as my original (well intentioned) comment was intended to meet the OP halfway, I suggest we stop talking. You're clearly incapable of having a rational discussion without resorting to insults, and I have far more productive things I'd like to do with my day. I wish yo…
/r/MensRights18/06/23 05:19 AM
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Wow. I was trying to meet you halfway here, my dude. Why should I feel lucky? Being a woman doesn't make me lesser than a man. Yeah, I've acknowledged that my life is possible because I married very VERY well. My husband is my better half - not because he is male but because he has a lot of qualities that I lack. And VICE VERSA. He'd tell you that I complete him in the same way. Of course, I feel lucky not to have been born in a country where I'd have less rights, but that's not what you're sayi…
/r/MensRights18/06/23 04:50 AM
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As a woman, I think men and women need each other in different ways but also understand the MGTOW mindset for sure! Even though I earn a lot more than my husband and lead a fairly independent life, I'm a disaster away from his influence. Without him, there's no way I'd have the headspace to do what I do now. I (autism and ADHD) need reminders to do everything. He, on the other hand, is very used to living on his own and taking care of himself. He's taught me to cook, keep regular routines, and h…
/r/MensRights18/06/23 12:36 AM
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All violence is abhorrent. I'm a woman. I'm sorry that these messages are so abundant in our society. As a woman married to a lovely man (who has also been in a very abusive relationship), I've seen the entire range of what men can be capable of and I genuinely love men. Seeing a therapist to unpack a lot of my previous negativity helped. Men, like women, are as individual as the stars in the sky and equally worthy of love and respect.
/r/MensRights28/05/23 09:12 PM
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Depends what you mean by feminist. My feminism is all about women and men being equal in terms of worth, albeit different. I'm not as physically strong as a man because I'm short, slight and female but I'm of equal worth as a human being. Feminism originally was "the radical notion that women are people" and that's my Feminism. There are many places around the world where this Feminism is still badly needed. Some feminists (the libfem types) are crazies giving us all a bad name. There are many o…
/r/MensRights22/03/23 10:09 PM
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I mean, I'm a higher rate taxpayer. I'm female. Just saying. It's entirely possible that many many woman do not subscribe this to whole "I have a problem, it's the fault of men!"
/r/MensRights05/03/23 09:40 AM
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It's such a difficult one. I'm imagining right now that I've gone through the pain, mess, and gore that comes with birthing a baby and am in the most vulnerable place of my whole life. Then my husband, the one person I can always trust to love and protect me, asks for proof that I haven't gone and slept with another guy and cuckholded him. I'd be devastated he thought me capable of such a thing, especially if our relationship has been great up until that point. I'm not sure we'd recover from som…
/r/MensRights02/01/23 07:42 PM
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I'd vote for it. I'm a woman and find paternity fraud abhorrent. Solid airtight prenuptial agreements would also be a very good thing.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 07:30 PM
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Are you based in the US/UK or elsewhere? In the UK, we're far more likely to offer to go halves on a date. I always did, prior to meeting my husband. We then took it in turns to pay for subsequent dates.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:10 PM
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I promise you that we don't all think in that way. Male creeps who don't accept no for an answer etc are quite rare in my experience. In fact, I believe most women are spoilt for choice because of all of the kind, handsome and very masterful men out there.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:09 PM
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Absolutely. My husband is the BEST! Absolutely beautiful on the inside and the outside. I suffered some horrendous abuse at the hands of two past partners (for which I also accept some level of responsibility because I didn't have the confidence to get out of that toxic cycle. My own behaviour could also have been a lot better), but I saw a therapist for over a year to get my head around why I myself had let that happen and how to avoid getting into the same situation. Note: how I got MYSELF int…
/r/MensRights29/12/22 12:06 PM
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Good. You deserve her and I'm sure you make one another very happy :)
/r/MensRights07/12/22 03:24 PM
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So messed up. That poor man. I also feel sorry for the child because she'll now have to pay for the mistake her mother made. Everyone loses. Imagine loving and caring for "your" child for a year and then finding out you'd been cheated on AND that your child isn't yours. That's a double betrayal. Just awful. How on earth do you get over something like that?! Paternity fraud is disgusting. Completely and utterly immoral and should be illegal. I'm a woman. We're not all like this, despite how it ma…
/r/MensRights07/12/22 03:07 PM
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I agree entirely.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:31 AM
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Compelling = incredibly seductive and easy to believe if you've been subjected to lots of male violence in your life. I don't, in any way, mean that it's a correct idea. It isn't.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:19 AM
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Ignore why I felt that way? I don't think that's helpful. You (and I mean the collective "you" rather than you, yourself) need to explore why you harbour feelings of hatred and prejudice to be able to overcome them in yourself and help others overcome theirs. We don't talk about it anywhere near enough.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 04:10 AM
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Also, "just two"? That "just two" was 13.5 years of experiencing physical, emotional, and sexual abuse because I didn't know any better. As I mentioned, it took some serious therapy for me not to see every man as a potential threat but I got there and I'm so much happier for it. Lastly, this is your space, not mine. If you'd rather I didn't comment, I'm happy to withdraw
/r/MensRights04/12/22 10:03 PM
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Well, I certainly did not say that. Also, I don't hate men. Any men. I went through a very dark time, realised I'd developed some unhealthy thought patterns and did the work to come through the other side. Hating someone because of their sex is ridiculous. I now love men and see them as the uniquely amazing people they are as individuals. I loved men before my bad experiences, I love them again. You're very welcome to hate me because I'm a female. As long as you don't harm me because I'm a woman…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 10:00 PM
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I appreciate the addition to the conversation. This sub has been so enlightening in general and inspired many interesting conversations with my husband.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:39 PM
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I could not agree with you more. Male victims of crime are victims of crime, despite the sex of the perpetrator. I'm sorry for my initial badly worded post.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 08:16 PM
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I completely hear you. I'm very sorry to have made you feel that way with my words. Genuinely sorry. I no longer believe those awful things, and they came from being in two very physically abusive and controlling relationships. My view on men was skewed by the abuse I suffered, and I had extensive therapy to work through my feelings. The problem was mine to work through, and I was able to take responsibility for my own post-traumatic stress and sort it out before I went down a really bad rabbit …
/r/MensRights04/12/22 06:47 PM
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I find this argument very intriguing. While the idea of "male on male" crime is a compelling one and am assertion I myself have been guilty of in the past, we wouldn't accept the female equivalent of "well, it's women killing women. Women are the problem as a species. " You've made me think. Thank you. I'm a woman. Edited for a typo
/r/MensRights04/12/22 12:26 PM
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Thank you, and I really appreciate this reply :)
/r/MensRights21/11/22 07:45 PM
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I hear the word "bigot" WAY too much these days. It's lost all meaning to me. I get that the posts here can be a bit extreme, but surely you agree that the posters here have a right to speak? Some of the things I read here make me profoundly uncomfortable, but I would never deny anyone their right to say how they feel. Unless the posts are encouraging violence, they should stay.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 07:40 PM
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Yes, but this is a space for men. They've got to vent somewhere! Here, they can talk through how they're feeling, which women say men don't do enough of!
/r/MensRights21/11/22 07:20 PM
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Crazy isn't it! I'm a woman and got autobanned from a few other subs for being part of this one. It's not misogynistic to question some of the prevailing narratives out there about men and women. Trust me, I notice and stamp on any women hatred I see in most spaces, but this is a space for men. This is your space. Not ours. Being a guest here is very informative, and I've been discussing a lot of the topics here with my husband, who feels very similarly about many of them.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 07:19 PM
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That makes a lot of sense. I wish men and women would work harder to understand each other. We're practically two different subspecies. As a woman, I've learned a lot from this sub about how men feel about things and it's useful. I'm not perfect and I've certainly been guilty of some of the "gah, men are the reason for all the problems in the world" bollocks in the past; however, with maturity comes nuance and shades of grey. This is a very interesting time to be a human, for sure. I wish you we…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 07:09 PM
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As an autistic woman, I've also been creep shamed and taken advantage of by men. To this day, you'd literally have to shout in my face "I fancy you" for me to think "oh, maybe he likes me" and even then, I'd think he was lying. Such are the scars from years of bullying for being socially awkward and different. I'm married now and very happy.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:05 AM
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I didn't know this! As a woman, I've often thought "FFS, how big must your balls BE?" when sitting next to a "manspreader" on the train or whatever. I've never said anything, but it is annoying to have to sit at an angle with my own knees sticking out into the aisle because of this. If it's actually biology, I'd be less annoyed and more understanding
/r/MensRights21/11/22 10:01 AM
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I do think a lot of it is socialisation. As women, we're not brought up to associate our bodies and brains with physical tasks like that. I often wonder what I'd be capable of if I'd been socialised differently and been allowed to be more "rough and tumble". These days, I'm the spider catcher in my house, the fuse fixer and the toilet unblocker but that's about it. I'm a woman. A woman who lifts weights now.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:10 PM
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Agreed! I'd have gone down there. I'm a woman. Lots of women would have done so.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:07 PM
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Something tells me you wouldn't mind this so much. We're just walking holes and parasites to you anyway! Genuinely disgusted by your post and subsequent comments. I mean, be YOU; you have the right to feel, think and say anything you like but...my God.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:04 PM
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They absolutely do not. As a woman, the only rights I gained when I got married were to change my name and wear a lovely ring. I could do those things anyway. I'm the higher earner and plan to be the breadwinner when/if we have kids. I'm less inclined to have kids than my husband is but he'll be a really impressive dad if we do so. He is the light of my whole life and he probably gets a little sick of my always telling him so, getting him little treats that he likes. You see, I was a very abusiv…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:00 PM
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That's really shit. As a woman, I'd expect members of my sex to be willing to do the same stuff in the job as the men.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 11:21 AM
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As a woman, height really doesn't matter to me. Its the last thing I care about. Ofc, you can't help what you're attracted to but...my God...keep that shit to yourself!
/r/MensRights25/08/22 04:27 PM
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