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DiscriminationXMATIC_4/r/MensRights17/01/15 01:13 PM
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Field ReportXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 11:34 PM
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Field ReportXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 03:23 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/askTRP18/01/15 01:05 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/askTRP13/10/16 03:08 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 03:33 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 08:15 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 04:01 PM
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Blue Pill ExampleXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 04:13 PM
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Red Pill ExampleXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 11:13 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/askTRP22/03/15 03:10 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/askTRP04/12/14 02:27 PM
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Rant/VentingXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 08:48 PM
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Blue Pill ExampleXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:06 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 03:42 PM
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Field ReportXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 05:03 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/askTRP15/01/15 05:57 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/askTRP20/12/14 08:08 PM
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XMATIC_4/r/askTRP22/02/15 12:58 PM
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Men's RightsXMATIC_4/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 06:34 PM
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Real talk
/r/askTRP07/01/17 01:34 AM
1

I think this is it,thanks,how do i deal with attention whores?
/r/askTRP13/10/16 03:40 PM
1

Well,im 18 and I didnt loose my virginity,its not the lack of sex that leads you to depression. Its the lack of life goals,procrastination,eating shit food and being a fatass.
/r/askTRP31/03/16 06:24 PM
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I have a funny story,back in school I was minding my buissnes and sitting in a good spot to cheat on this test. A bully that I beat in a fistfight previously said "Hey you are in my spot" and I just answered "No i'm not". I think that was the moment young me realized how good it felt to be an alpha for just a little bit. I remained in my seat and he just found another one,we became friends later. There is and underlying story but I don't think its interesting. TL:DR Don't be a pussy.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 06:17 PM
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I chose not to argue with a mad man,no point getting on your level.
/r/askTRP24/02/16 03:33 PM
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...im not sure if this is bait or no.
/r/askTRP24/02/16 03:06 PM
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Well in the context that he did drugs and was in a biker gang I belive it applies. Dont get me wrong,acting tough and then flaking out will make her pussy drier that the Sahara.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/16 02:35 PM
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Yes it is. There are plenty of killers in prison receving love mail and letters from women that would fuck them in an instance. Being "bad" is hot
/r/TheRedPill12/02/16 02:24 PM
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I can already see that you have some doubts,its a shit test. I would respond with "k" or with a suggestion that has been posted here.
/r/askTRP24/12/15 09:42 AM
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OK,assuming she is not doing this because of a free meal. She is using you as an emotional tampon,or a validation tool. If she broke up with you she sees you nothing more of a beta and she has absolutely no plans of fucking you/meaningful relationship. You are again being a beta because you think going on this lunch can get you somewhere with her. Move on.
/r/askTRP21/11/15 10:43 AM
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She wants you to buy her luch. Beta bucks
/r/askTRP21/11/15 09:59 AM
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Yeah,I edited my comment,it was definitely my fault for using that phrasing.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/15 06:21 PM
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Parents feeding the wrong information is not lying,its just that,feeding wrong information. In my opinion it does the same damage. I was often told by my mom to pedestalize girls,treat them like queens etc. and of course I belived that what make girls like me. I have been lied that some things are OK,that some things will just pass with time. It left bad scars on me,but I am glad it did,because I can look at them and know the truth Edit: edited my comment to better clarify myself
/r/TheRedPill29/10/15 06:03 PM
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This really puts it in perspective. We are being lied from birth to death. Our parents lied to us,and then told us lying is bad. So fucking confusing for a child growing up to understand this, it just assumes anything their mom/dad told them is the truth because they cant lie,they said lying is bad. I am so fucking grateful that I discovered this sub at 16.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/15 04:26 PM
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Study alone,you said there will be alcohol so I am assuming you just want an excuse to drink. Focus on studying,not fucking
/r/askTRP27/10/15 02:46 PM
1

Try not to be overly aggresive or establish dominance or whatever. Remeber,this is your job and he is not your higher up,ignore it.
/r/askTRP20/10/15 04:31 PM
4

No
/r/askTRP19/10/15 04:50 AM
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I would report it to the first official I saw,gender doesn't matter if you were assaulted or abused
/r/MensRights28/08/15 11:34 AM
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I belive that in their case its status>body by a long shot
/r/askTRP12/06/15 04:50 AM
1

This is so fucking on point. I started to notice it alot too. Just take a look around at some couples
/r/askTRP17/05/15 05:09 PM
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Don't shit where you eat
/r/askTRP27/03/15 05:52 AM
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Yeah,fuck i should make a FR out of this
/r/askTRP22/03/15 09:23 PM
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So I should constantly start conversations on facebook?
/r/askTRP22/03/15 09:10 PM
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There is a saying in my country "fell into water" it means thats its gone. All the TRP that I read was just gone as soon as I saw her.
/r/askTRP22/03/15 04:26 PM
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Damn,as soon as I saw another female person like me all the TRP sidebar fell into water. Fuck.
/r/askTRP22/03/15 03:43 PM
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Holy fuck. When you said this I had a flash back of her smiling to me,she has those big eyes with a grin.
/r/askTRP22/03/15 03:28 PM
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America sure invaded Iraq because of freedom,right? People are blue pilled,and they cant really handle the cold hard RP.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/15 09:32 PM
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You guys are forgetting its HE "FOR" SHE,not an equal exchange.
/r/MensRights09/03/15 09:09 PM
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Feminists never support true equality
/r/MensRights07/03/15 02:04 PM
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.
/r/MensRights05/03/15 03:55 PM
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Its because they overblow it. And what happens when men get raped "NICE CATCH BRO LOLOLOL BET U BANGED DAT PUSSYX" Yeah,both sides have issues and they get mocked.
/r/MensRights03/03/15 08:36 PM
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"Women are primary victims of war"
/r/MensRights01/03/15 08:10 PM
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The friend is small,no muscles literally the biggest beta I saw when it comes to girls. I was thinking of saying like "dont let him hit you,fight back" but I really feel like he is going to get stomped without any preparation.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 06:30 PM
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"16 years old is the best possible time to set the course. Don't fuck it up." I feel like this really resonated in me. I honestly wished I knew alot of these things earlier. I would be alot better in middle school.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/15 06:28 PM
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4 people from my school are going
/r/askTRP22/02/15 04:18 PM
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Becausr we will be going to alot of universities and we will be on gender equality,and womens rights classes
/r/askTRP22/02/15 03:47 PM
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Well,this kinda has alot of things to do with our personality. We need to be activr,encouraging,eager
/r/askTRP22/02/15 03:37 PM
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Its a goverment thing,youth rxchange program
/r/askTRP22/02/15 03:36 PM
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Context is that they are coming from america to my poor ass country. Its kinda a school thing. I have never been on a real interview
/r/askTRP22/02/15 03:34 PM
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No,but I am sure there will be talk about gender eqality and they will at least mention rape
/r/askTRP22/02/15 03:33 PM
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No. I honestly wish I could say more but its really simple
/r/MensRights21/02/15 11:55 PM
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Employ Machiavellian tactics. You gain nothing from standing up to the opposition,you are outnumbered. Best to just play along and be "black and white". If you stand up you will be called out a "women hater" or similar bullshit,these people probably don't use logic
/r/MensRights21/02/15 10:46 PM
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Not laws,but the policy that "women should get 50% representation in a company even if they are less qualified than men". Alot of big companies are pushing this,such as Intel
/r/MensRights21/02/15 10:39 PM
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I said "something along the lines of" im pretty sure it was said by someone....somewhere
/r/MensRights18/02/15 06:31 PM
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It would have "looked" less insane yes. Something along the lines of "You go girl fight the patriarchy!" bullshit
/r/MensRights18/02/15 06:17 PM
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I dont think so,but if a woman did this im sure she would just be "defending herself" while he is now suffering charges against him.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 05:29 PM
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I think this really helped me out alot,I love these "educational" posts that we have been getting lately. Keep up the good work,how about you go in detail about some conflicts and provide us with results how to deal with basic ones.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 03:30 PM
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Kinda weird that this sub is being demonized but when you actually come in it and look at it from a logical perspective it all makes sense.
/r/TheRedPill16/02/15 10:04 AM
2

Found something funny about Eliot Rodgers,if you guys want some lols http://www.8ch.net/b/src/1423637724802-1.webm
/r/TheRedPill12/02/15 06:14 PM
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Let me guess, you are white,tall,and skinny?
/r/TheRedPill25/01/15 10:32 PM
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Quality post. Can we have some sort if a FR?
/r/TheRedPill24/01/15 10:59 PM
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Thanks,thats one of the best constructed replies I have gotten. I would have come off as a weirdo and I would fuck up. Even if the only thing you can comment on is the weather Do I just look at her and say "The weather looks nice outside,doesnt it?" seems even more weird to me.
/r/askTRP18/01/15 08:47 PM
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Great site man,works perfectly for me. Feel like it needs night mode tho. design looks really smooth and professional.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 07:54 PM
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SIPA "State Investigation and Protection Agency" They deal with everything from murders of high state people,to drug dealing.
/r/MensRights17/01/15 03:55 PM
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The last sentence is actually RP truth that alot of women dont want to admit but secretly all approve
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 08:28 AM
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Violence CAN be the answer,but it doesn't have to. Now my dad did beat me and I can assure you it was the answer to any question I had.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/15 12:35 PM
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To be honest,the reason I want to try drugs is to find some kind of clarity. Every day goes in a jumble,I cant seem to focus on my goals,I have nothing pre-defined.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 11:35 PM
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This is exactly why I want to try drugs. I know in school we are tought that drugs are extremely bad,and they associate everything negative with them. Its sort of a ying-yang thing
/r/TheRedPill10/01/15 11:25 PM
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I know im late as fuck,but. The more a female appears feminine the more I love her. I guess its just programmed in our gene to seek more "feminine" things in females
/r/RedPillWomen09/01/15 11:22 PM
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Hanged out with a group of girls 15+ years,as a beta bitch right?
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 02:12 AM
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Classic example of how he sees her as a "prize" and he must do anything to keep her. "Im not dating a gorila,shave or its over" should be the correct way of handling this situation
/r/TheRedPill05/01/15 01:50 AM
15

HEY,I GOT THAT REFERENCE
/r/PussyPassDenied29/12/14 06:57 PM
1

Thats actuallt actually a good response
/r/askTRP20/12/14 11:30 PM
2

I suggest using The Dark Triad methodology to achive your goals,you dont need to be so direct with things,plan it all the way
/r/askTRP20/12/14 08:13 PM
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=184_1413923725&comments=1 Here is a classic example of a false rape allegation,it just shows how low women have fallen. And what did she got after this....nothing,a slap on the wrist. If the camera on this police officer hasn't been recording he could have lost his job,or worse. All because some white privileged bitch cant take responsibility for her actions.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 10:03 PM
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Its /r/cutefemalecorpses... Source:experience
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 09:43 AM
1

From the book! Image: The Thumbscrew. Your enemy has secrets that he guards, thinks thoughts he will not reveal. But they come out in ways he cannot help. It is there some where, a groove of weakness on his head, at his heart, over his belly. Once you find the groove, put your thumb in it and turn him at will.
/r/TheRedPill17/12/14 05:55 PM
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From the book! Once upon a time there was a king of Armenia, who, being of a curious turn of mind and in need of some new diversion, sent his heralds throughout the land to make the following proclamation: “Hear this! Whatever man among you can prove himself the most outrageous liar in Armenia shall receive an apple made of pure gold from the hands of His Majesty the King!” People began to swarm to the palace from every town and hamlet in the country, people of all ranks and conditions, princes,…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 03:00 PM
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Yeah,its too late beacuse im already know as a "geek" "weak" and the stigma will live on
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 12:54 PM
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I agree with you,but I guess I searched validation from women,and when they dissipated I just quit
/r/TheRedPill16/12/14 12:53 PM
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I realized that as soon as I started reading TRP,unfortunatly it is a bit too late to start all over
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 09:37 PM
6

Sabaton - Lion From The North that song is so motivating...
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 08:35 PM
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Dude....hypergamous nature is in biology.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 02:01 PM
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You really think women give a fuck what he did on his job. They only care about how much money you bring home. Arabian princes are not fucking firefighters or cardiologists,or even fit,they just have money.
/r/TheRedPill15/12/14 01:59 PM
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Extra info from the book: Lions Circle the Hesitant Prey. People have a sixth sense for the weaknesses of others. If, in a first encounter, you demonstrate your willingness to compromise, back down, and retreat, you bring out the lion even in people who are not necessarily bloodthirsty. Everything depends on perception, and once you are seen as the kind of person who quickly goes on the defensive, who is willing to negotiate and be amenable, you will be pushed around without mercy. Boldness Stri…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/14 05:28 PM
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Hamstering on another level.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 05:21 PM
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"I dont even have enough money for a cab. Prick" Self entitlement right there. Expecting you should pay for all of her expenses,I guess you did a good job
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 02:10 PM
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"...if some one says that I hurt their feelings,I wait to see what their point is. In this country you could be told "that's offensive" as those two words form an argument"
/r/TheRedPill11/12/14 02:05 PM
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If you "absolutely have to buy weed" you are not even close to TRP mentality
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 08:32 PM
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"In the fable, the Monkey grabs the paw of his friend, the Cat, and uses it to fish chestnuts out of the fire, thus getting the nuts he craves, without hurting himself. If there is something unpleasant or unpopular that needs to be done, it is far too risky for you to do the work yourself. You need a cat‘s-paw-someone who does the dirty, dangerous work for you. The cat’s-paw grabs what you need, hurts whom you need hurt, and keeps people from noticing that you are the one responsible. Let someon…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 08:23 PM
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Dear god,you just summed up EXACTLY what women think when it comes to sensitive jobs
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 08:02 PM
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The original story from the book goes something like this: " There was once a monkey,who was hungry. He tried to get the banana that was in fire,but he would feel the fire and would get scared. He got a cat,and used its paw to get the banana from the fire."
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 03:48 PM
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The media takes them seriously,no matter how dumb it is. Thats why we must fight.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 07:36 PM
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Well,I guess im going to delete my comment,apparently TRP is filled with kids who cant talk like normal humans
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 03:57 PM
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I really dont understand you...
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 03:16 PM
1

Fail Often, Fail Fast, Fail Cheap
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 01:27 PM
2

Lemme just give a visualization,this is how a 330 pound woman looks like https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dY6d7JhJ7ks/T1-uGOwLqcI/AAAAAAAAAVA/iZux71XBtPM/s1600/17743264810_292%255B1%255D
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 12:36 PM
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"It's like using Peter Pan to teach boys how to fly." Thats an excellent example.
/r/TheRedPill09/12/14 12:33 PM
1

This is Black Knight material right here!
/r/TheRedPill05/12/14 03:49 PM
1

If I want to get pumped,or motivated I just lksten to Sabaton. Their songs really carry the essence of war. Brave men sacrificing their lives for a greater cause
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 10:54 PM
1

I'm half way thru the book,and I love TRP ideology. My motive is that I must write something. I "MUST" write something,that was the first thing that came to my mind.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 04:11 PM
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Woah,thanks for an actual well conscripted advice. No afterschool programs,no sports clubs,I tried going out to a club once,failed horribly,just sat around and drank.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 04:08 PM
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Sadly for you,I am not that person you project to me. I never talk that I read books,I would be laughed off,I keep a friendly vibe with everyone,friendly but shallow. I do not know where you are from,but in my school everyone is a "hillbilly" I go to class with 15 male students,no females in engineering class for over 3 generations. Its a country where men and women are stereotyped.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 04:07 PM
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Over-confidence can be devastating. but since its just around common people,not your boss or similar I guess you are alright.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:44 PM
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Grammar has nothing to do with reading books,I write like this because I write what I think,it looks good in my mind. Again you with the age factor,I never stated that I do bullshit rants,or insult their inteligence,you are making decisions based on assumptions.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:40 PM
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So you decide not to help constructively,but just come here to express your anger/dissatisfaction. I pity the fool
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:37 PM
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Not alot of people read this newspaper,I just need to fill a page with something. If you judge by age you are shallow. English is not my native language,altho I think I understand it very well,I am situated in a place where I cannot hang around and maybe meet a few girls. "Smarter guys than you have failed with less controversial topics" good point
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:28 PM
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Already half way thru
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:20 PM
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I like to share knowledge with my male friends,and I like to read good books,mainly war strategies and deception. I feel like an endless pit of good information that no one wants to talk to because no one dares to peer inside it
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:18 PM
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I am already on a bad voice in my school,any sort of attention is good,right? I have not talked to a female other than my mother since like,2 years ago,not even small chat,nothing.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:11 PM
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Thanks for constructive feedback
/r/askTRP04/12/14 03:06 PM
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Why,I am open to suggestions,maybe I shouldn't do 48 laws of power,maybe I should do something else TRP like?
/r/askTRP04/12/14 02:49 PM
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No I have not read it enough,altho I think I am going with the plan of making it.
/r/askTRP04/12/14 02:37 PM
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Law #16 Use absence to increase respect and honor. Too much circulation makes the price go down: The more you are seen and heard from, the more common you appear. If you are already established in a group, temporary withdrawal from it will make you more talked about, even more admired. You must learn when to leave. Create value through scarcity. Just leave subtly start leaving the group,if they really dont want to hang out with you,you lost nothing. And if they invite you back you will dismiss a…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/14 02:07 PM
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19 dollars? Can we get some kind of an donate thing started to buy this domain?
/r/TheRedPill03/12/14 04:27 PM
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Thank you for an amazing response
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 07:51 PM
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And YET no one pointed me to it,or even tried to explain it to me. I have checked the "before you post" it has NOTHING about anti-rp click bait. You are ignorant
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 07:10 PM
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How am I sharing my insecurities,I simply linked to a blue post
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:58 PM
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Please point me to where is it this "click bait" ?
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:57 PM
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Still has nothing on anti-rp click bait,I even CTRL+F searched it to double check
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:55 PM
-1

I educated myself well,is it a blinds man fault beacuse he bumps into some one he cant see?
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:46 PM
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It didnt affect my emotions,im just showing how much lies this has
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:35 PM
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I am unfamiliar about that day? Can you explain? EDIT: Why are you downvoting and not explaining?
/r/TheRedPill02/12/14 06:18 PM
0

Do you want to buy more Candidoes?
/r/TheRedPill30/11/14 01:08 AM
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YOU are the prize, not her. This is the diffrence between beta and alpha. Betas think "she is the one,the princess" and shes the prize.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/14 05:55 PM
1

dear god keep calling her mega man that is ridiculous
/r/askTRP11/11/14 05:57 PM
1

The alpha bitch was a typo. I understand this is the way to go,the TRP way,but I just got into this mindset
/r/TheRedPill06/11/14 05:31 PM
1

Yeah,I wasnt aware how the situation went thru,the above still applies
/r/TheRedPill05/11/14 01:35 PM
1

A couple of things I would do. When he asks you for a favor next time,or ever asks you,fuck it up as much as you can,but make it seem like its not your fault. If you ever get in a situation where you can get any information that can get him fired/is illegal I would use it. Fight fire with fire
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 03:36 PM
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....uhh....really? How can you ban me for posting relavant stuff on this subreddit,and I posted everything that they need to know in that post,the title,and the picture
/r/TheRedPill04/11/14 12:55 PM
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Basicly this
/r/askTRP03/11/14 06:48 PM
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Sun Tzu — 'Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.' Sun Tzu — 'Move swift as the Wind and closely-formed as the Wood. Attack like the Fire and be still as the Mountain.' These are for you!
/r/askTRP03/11/14 06:32 PM
1

You work like a dog(beta) you are going to be a bitch to girls,you already know the whole story,but if you work like a wolf(alpha) you are going to achive more.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 01:52 PM
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nah,im not frustrated,I gave you surface level shit,I never intended to give you something with layers
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 01:51 PM
1

And yeah,you summed it up pretty well,I would have added a few bits.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 10:56 AM
0

God damnit,I was planning on posting this just so some one can see it and be like, "Damn,Im going to be a wolf(alpha) today" I was posting this just to boost your morale,to be better,sure I could write an article,but not alot of people would give a shit.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 10:53 AM
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Moral of the quote,dont be a beta bitch,be an alpha wolf
/r/TheRedPill02/11/14 12:41 AM
0

Women are sluts in general,cant blame the men for trying (at least in comics/stories)
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 11:02 PM
0

Do think modeling is a disreputable profession? (also models are not just born pretty- it's incredibly difficult, brutal and painstaking work- check out some of the netflix documentaries) Yeah,I got this response when I said shit about modeling,I laughed. read:"incredibly difficult" "brutal"
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 05:26 PM
1

This gal has really biased opinions on it,I would link you her article,but I cant,im sure you can find it
/r/TheRedPill31/10/14 05:13 PM
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I dont know,this is just how sentences sound im my mind,and I kinda bundle em together,it sucks,but in my eyes it looks right
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 02:35 PM
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they have trouble with their social priorities. In the good old times,when man hunted animals,if you were dumb,you would not catch them,and die eventually,same in here,if you are dumb,and cant put peoples LIVES in front of facebook,than honestly she "deserved" it
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 01:56 PM
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This is the real red pill logic,to the 2 comments on the top,yeah she fucking deserved it,its like putting your hand in fire and saying,maybe I will get burnt,and then you do,and you think its not your fault
/r/TheRedPill30/10/14 01:46 PM
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God this is so well written,I am late to the party,but all props to you man!
/r/TheRedPill28/10/14 08:54 PM
3

Makes me sick!
/r/MensRights17/09/14 08:51 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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