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And all those other jobs that men went to also needed degrees. Labor jobs didn't need degrees. We required more degrees recently as our economy shifted away from labor to more service oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:52 PM
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Do you live in some weird backwards area? Even in the last ~50 years, when women can go to college, more men went to college. Women went to become stay at homes, even with a college degree. Things have changed over time. And no, it's not become we encouraged men to not get degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:24 PM
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No. Woman are more likely to graduate from high school than men. Men are falling behind in education. Please don't make shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:02 AM
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If you want men to have the option to “financially abort” then argue the government should cover the costs for the men that abandon their kids. No, the better option would be to subsidize abortions. If a woman wants to keep the child, the woman should pay for it. There are plenty of women who abort purely for financial reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:16 AM
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"I'm against equality" - you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:09 AM
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. This is pointless and a waste of my time. I think your logic is a waste of time. Since reproductive roles have "completed" we're all just making shit up and using legality to enforce what we feel like. Women get the right to choose whether a baby exists or not. Women should then have to suffer the "consequences" of that by paying for it if the guy doesn't want that child to exist. Women can't have their cake and eat it too. If we forced women to carry a child to full term, then I am for forcin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:08 AM
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The only enforcement is legal. Tell that to the animal kingdom then, like bears, etc. Men do get to choose, via managing their reproductive role. Just like women. Yes, I can choose too, by abandoning my child. Except legally I can't. Because people like you are taking that away from men. But I can't find the logic in which a woman gets the right to choose whether a child exists and thus be a parent, that right doesn't extend to the father's. Men do get to choose, via managing their reproductive …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:58 AM
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It's legal. It's not societal. Society expects the men to help raise the child. I am one of those people who believes if a child exists, whether the father wanted one or not, they should help raise the child. But I can't find the logic in which a woman gets the right to choose whether a child exists and thus be a parent, that right doesn't extend to the father's. I am for society shaming deadbeat dads but I am against using the legal system into forcing men to raise their child. even that enforc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:49 AM
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The belief in equality but a focus on woman's issues isn't a contradiction. It is. If you keep saying you're for equality and missing the extra few words "equality [for women]". Equality for men is just a by product of movements by feminists, not the actual directive of that movement, not even in addition to equality for women. An equalitst or egalitarian is actually for equality regardless of sex or gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:46 AM
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Dam, 10 hours and u/Difficult_Falcon1022 has yet to respond. And they were still active as of 6 hours ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:43 AM
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Wrong. Men in higher education is actually falling. There are more women in higher education than men. However, there are more men in STEM or higher paying majors and careers than women. But in general, women make up the majority in higher education.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:41 AM
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Wow, so we have a ton of deadbeat dads in the animal kingdom who fail to fulfill their "reproductive role" by contributing to raising their child. No. Forcing the father to take care fo the child as well is strictly legal and societal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:34 AM
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Host, develop and deliver are completely separate things. Again, men and women contribute to conceptualize. Whether the zygote becomes a full baby is up to the woman's decision because it's her body. Bodily autonomy and a woman's right, anyone's right for that matter, is a human right to choose. "Reproductive role" is irrelevant in whether a father should pay for the child. That is strictly legal. So yes I agree with this then. "Financial abortions" have nothing to do with reproductive rights. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:21 AM
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WTf does that matter. Both men and women are required to make a baby. Both are responsible ad required for conception.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:50 AM
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Birth control, condoms, consent, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:08 AM
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"Before" is also women's too. After is also women's. After is not men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:21 AM
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Some guys seriously lack social skills. They may get a girlfriend and they do use those girlfriends to expand their social circles. Hell, guys even sacrifice their friends in favor of a/their (potential) girlfriend. I'm not going to be your placeholder until your SO is available. Fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:17 PM
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If you need to make up bizarre hypotheticals to make your point, you don't have one I'm using hypotheticals to find a flaw in the logic. I said we're done here. You are not a feminist. You are one of those third wave ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:19 PM
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This makes zero sense. Pink tax is not a subsidy. Its a tax. It's an additional cost Again someone didn't read the wiki. We are mammals "You found a flaw in my logic so I won't address it." Yes, hence why women have the ultimate decision making on what to do with their bodies and thus pregnancy, my egg example uses the logic of forcing the man to pay if the logic was also used for a woman. As always when I use these types of argument, people like you have no logic other than "tough luck" "biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:13 PM
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What does pink tax have to do with it?! I'm saying how society subsidize based on biological difference omfg. Yes. The child exists and should not be penalised against. Or should the person that "stole" and thus made the decision be the one paying for it? So you're fine with forcing the two parents to pay for a child they didn't want? So if we weren't mammals but say avians, if we laid eggs, one parent wants to keep the child and the other doesn't, does one get to smash that egg? or if one paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:09 PM
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How? Pink tax. Men can not get women pregnant if they don't want to be a parent. You still haven't answered my hypothetical. By your logic, if someone grabbed your DNA and made a child, YOU have to pay for the child's upbringing because "a child exists". How that child existed and whose decision it was has no bearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:04 PM
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If its unfair, blame biology. Again, I told you in the other comment, society tries to balance biological unfairness. You have yet to counter that. Yes, by whose ultimate decision making? Seriously? Women have the ultimate decision making in whether they want to terminate a pregnancy or not. Again here you go substituting reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:58 PM
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imagined unfairness. It is unfair, you can't be both the ultimate decision maker of whether a pregnancy goes through and force others to take care of it. You first tried to suggest that mean play no part of have no responsibility for women getting pregnant. Men do have part. And at the same time, you're denying men's decision making in whether a pregnancy goes through. See the hypocrisy? Of course not because you're substituting reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:54 PM
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:51 PM
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Sounds like you failed to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:48 PM
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Do you not understand what universal is? 🤣 If a mother is forced to carry the child, the father SHOULD help pay for it. That is fair. You must also face the consequences of that decision. Yup. Apparently not for women then. Don't want to mother a child, don't get pregnant. Or, have an abortion or give the child up. Nice how women have a get out of jail free card unlike men. am using your logic against you. I am. It's men's money, they have the right to choose also. They dont. They should, much l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:47 PM
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Paying for dates, women just being stay at homes, cooking, house work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:44 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_tax
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:43 PM
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Clearly they don't everywhere. Abortion is not a universal right It is in some places. The vast majority of pregnancies are not baby trapping lol. Many are accidents, and in places where abortion is legal, as a woman, you have the right to choose whether to proceed or not. You must also face the consequences of that decision. Don't want to father a child? Don't get anyone pregnant Don't want to mother a child, don't get pregnant. Men need to face up to the consequences of their decisions So you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:42 PM
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Dismantling gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:40 PM
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Biology isn't fair. Yet we made laws to make the social aspect fair, like society paying for women's tax which I am not against. Just sounds like hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:38 PM
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You think women don't have the right to terminate or go through with a pregnancy? And yes, it's called Baby Trapping.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:36 PM
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i dunno, equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:35 PM
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Child exists because of women's decision making. Much like a decision to not use birth control. Yes a child exist, because of your decision, so go pay for it. Hypothetically speaking, if I grabbed your DNA, made a child, are you then on the hook for paying for it because the "child exists"? I never understood that line of reasoning. You're making a decision for someone else. Don't get me wrong, if a child exist and as a parent, mother or father, you don't care for it, you're a deadbeat. But I ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:32 PM
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A woman that doesn't pay on dates or pay half or "treat' the other already shows we have fundamentally different ideologies when it comes to social and gender norms and we will not at all be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:00 PM
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That's what bromance is for and brojobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:19 PM
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They don’t need to find the perfect someone. That’s impossible. But men’s standards are the bare minimum. Most would be happy with anyone as long as they have an orifice between their legs. Men have increased their own supply despite making only half the population. Women are fine with being alone and prefer finding a quality man this decreasing their supply. Men need to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:14 PM
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Men care more about not being lonely than finding someone that is truly their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:23 PM
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Which is weird because women in general are fine with being alone. Men need to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:33 AM
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I made a friends with someone and she has ZERO problems saying no to something when I invite them to something. It's not she hates me or doesn't want to hang out with me, it's just they don't want to, they're not interested in that particular activity. Sure, at first I got a little hurt but I got over it and quite honestly it was actually refreshing for someone just tell me what they feel instead of beating around the bush. It came to a point where I start to incorporate it and just tell people …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:31 AM
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Hope this isn’t codependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:27 PM
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We want a mature adult to be partners with, not a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:32 PM
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Cheating is a conscious choice much like drinking alcohol regardless of setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:57 PM
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Yea let’s totally excuse drunk drivers then for their poor choices
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 09:21 PM
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Yes hence the choice. If you can’t trust yourself to not cheat with alcohol don’t get drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:09 PM
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First time on Reddit? lol. Seriously judgement subs like relationship advice and aitah are purely on projection and insecure. They don’t believe in platonic friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 08:08 PM
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So there are loud and misandrist feminist, should we use the same logic as you for actual feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:34 AM
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So like any other idiot on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:09 AM
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Those men are anti social and have no idea how to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:51 AM
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The problem with MGTOW is that it was infiltrated with men who think they don't need women so instead of being a movement about self discovery about living life without women, it became a movement about men justifying life without women by bashing them. Women should not have been in that equation. It's equivalent to women movement of "needing no man" and most definitely that type of movement have misandrist in there but anti women movements tend to be more loud and exposed than anti men movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:25 PM
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Feminism wants to get rid of toxic masculinity. Then women need to get over gender roles of how men need to be stoic. I agree with OP, the more men find these types of women unattractive and end it, the less people will want them, the more these people will need to re-examine themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:23 PM
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A feminist would be aware and acknowledge men's issues. However, gender issues has turned into a "who has it worse" so instead of acknowledging each sides' problems, it devolves into who has more problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:44 AM
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I’m hoping at least he’s doing house work and the one taking care of the kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 09:42 PM
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The entire comment that started this discussion is you saying: are you saying your partners feelings don't matter to you? and I wrote: They matter but they also have to be reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:54 PM
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You should not placate to unreasonable feelings. It's like if your partner is insecure with you being friends with the opposite sex, hell even in a public setting. Are you going to placate to that feeling of insecurity? There's a difference between your partner's feelings matter and placating to them because they are unreasonable. Are you just never going to talk to 50% of the population?!?!? I mean you can first slowly not talk to people of the opposite sex for a bit and slowly try to get your …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:53 PM
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They matter but they also have to be reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:14 PM
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Mansplaining is a thing. It's when a guy condescendingly assume they know better and talking down to women. The problem is when someone, who is a guy, gives valid and genuine advice to a woman, people think it's mansplaining when it's literally just advice. Like here on Reddit, a woman does something in a predominantly male dominated profession like construction and Redditors give advice, people think it's mansplaining. But you go to places like DIY subreddit or Reddit in general it's people giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:17 AM
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When there's domestic abuse in public, it's assumed the guy deserved it and the woman is showing empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:13 AM
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Because men prefer hot women regardless of personality. While women would be ok with looks wise but decent personality and good financial stability. Men really need to up their standards and stop relying on looks alone. Women figured this out and realized looks aren't everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:45 AM
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Can't you tell the dictation software to use punctuation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:43 AM
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Now count men who haven't been assaulted or harmed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:07 AM
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Even then the highest rate of violence are men against men but you don't see men fearful of other men or trying to rationalize that fear. But whoa, men on women violence, all hell breaks loose and they must fear men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:06 AM
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Lol here's a woman that loves toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:32 AM
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Generalising a whole gender is stupid. Then you've come to the wrong sub. This sub loves to over generalize sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:17 AM
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Because it’s not the fact that he’s black. It’s the fact that he’s a man. Wow, then you just fixed racism, LMAO. LOLOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:08 AM
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This is someone out here who has never lived out side. Most rapes occur from someone they know. And most are from the lack of consent, not actual power dynamics like you see on TVs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:05 AM
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She should do what she needs to do to protect herself as long as it doesn't directly or indirectly affect other people. Not walking down the alley at night. Not jogging down the unlit path. Not accepting a drink from a stranger. Not walking alone at night. Not engaging with cat callers. These are good, general street smarts. I live in a very dense city. I know how to act. Now I want you to stop thinking about black men for one goddamn second No I won't because AGAIN all this shit can be used aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:57 AM
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bothers you because you take it personally for some reason yes I take it personally because I'm a guy, much like you rationalize racism against black people, black people would take it personally. Women saying that they need to be wary of men in certain situations is not an attack on YOU. Yes it is. If I flinch and watch my back every time a black person walks by me. They may not have personally attacked me, but me feeling that way gives them to right to feel attacked. That is what you don't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:58 AM
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With the exact same logic, since male on male violence is more common, shouldn't men fear other men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:39 AM
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The sexists in this sub hates it when you use their exact same logic and rationale with race. They know they're wrong and sexist but will try and twist it otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:36 AM
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Sure, with the same dumb logic the others are trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:31 AM
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I'm saying, stop being sexist. You are trying to rationalize being sexist because of "context".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:31 AM
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LMAO, did you seriously not get what I'm saying. I absolutely did say it is racist to make claims about black men. That's my point. I'm using the exact same logic. Statistics aren't racist or sexist. Black men commit more crimes. Men commit more crimes and are more violent. It's when you use those statistics and treat men and black men differently, that's what makes it racist and sexist respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:51 AM
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It can be statistically correct but still sexist if you use statistics to make sexist claims and decision making. Black men on average compared to other groups commit more crimes. If I use those statistics and act differently towards black men, that makes me racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:59 AM
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When nearly EVERY woman you know has had a scary experience with a man where she’s felt in danger…yeah it’s rational. So again, let me bring it back to my comment. Is people's fear of black men also rational? If it is, is fearing them racist? You can’t say that a majority of humans have experienced these things at the hands of specifically black men—because they haven’t. Why can't I make this statement while you can make this statement: When nearly EVERY woman you know has had a scary experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:57 AM
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Please tell me what women need to be ashamed of? Being sexist. Wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:54 AM
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And that's called sexism and this entire post is covered with comments excusing sexism against men, allowing them to prejudge and discriminate. They should be ashamed of themselves. They won't though because they have no shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:37 AM
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Don't men actually face more amounts of crime from other men than women? Like male on male violence is more than male on female violence. Like you are more likely to be a victim of violence if you are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:28 AM
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So you're allowed then to make this claim? Believe me, men of every race have demonstrated violence against women. The two examples are not being given in the same context, so they cannot be compared the way you’re attempting to. Then elaborate. I'm using the exact same logic and argument except twisting it to racism. You can't use "difference in context" without explaining why that matters. In a world where a vast majority of these types of atrocities were committed by black men, only then you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:25 AM
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This is Reddit. Most Redditors don't actually go outside and their fears are based on statistics or what Reddit says or thinks. Imagine if the real world actually acts like what Redditors say or think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:16 AM
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Again, let me put it back at black men. Am I allowed to express the exact same mentality as you are with men with me and black men and would I not be called out as racist much like how I am calling you misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:14 AM
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Again, let me tell you how to properly argue. You said I was making bad faith argument. I said I am using your exact logic except twisting it and changing it to race. You have YET to prove how what I am doing is NOT racism, yet what you are doing is NOT sexism. Must be nice to argue on Reddit with zero accountability. insensitivity Insensitivity? So we should give a pass to all racists out there that has had bad experience with black men? You are seriously out of touch with reality. I am so glad…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:06 AM
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If you look at statistically, which subset of men tend to be more violent. You all are just misandrists. I feel sad for both men and women in your lives. I doubt they feel like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:59 PM
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Again you are using typical Reddit counter arguments of "word salad". Your counter arguments have little substance and would not survive any actual discourse outside of Reddit where dumbasses love to argue. How about actually provide good arguments for your position and why PREJUDGING men would not be called out as sexism much like how PREJUDGING black men would not be called out as racism. You can't, that's how you have to resort to stupid tactics to make another point. Like I said, so typical.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:57 PM
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It's not a bad faith argument. It's literally switching sexism with racism using the exact same logic. You all are just making up fake counter arguments because you don't want to be called out for it. You want to be sexist without being sexist. And being on Reddit for quite a while, this is how you Redditors love to argue because you have NOTHING. It's just grasping at straws to find what sticks and what sounds nice but it has little substance. I have never seen a group of degenerates not know h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:46 PM
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So since we’ve all had scary experience with black men should we all be scared of black men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:15 PM
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Awesome, now go reveal who you are then since you are so proud about your archaic ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:10 PM
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I’m soooo glad your archaic thinking is dying. I highly doubt you share these opinions publicly without the veil of anonymity that is Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:02 PM
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You're only proving my point that some people haven't evolved to overcome these "biological" urges. You're toeing the line that you're almost excusing rapists for not overcoming their biological urge to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:41 PM
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These prime directives are still vital to our survival No they are not. We've evolved since then. We no longer rely on men to provide. Women can provide too. We no longer rely on women to take care of the children. Men can take care of the children. Throughout our history, people constantly said [insert discriminated group here] can't do XYZ. They've been constantly proven otherwise. If you think otherwise, it's the 21st century. I'm sorry to hear you're still stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:29 PM
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We've evolved from these "biological" urges. Otherwise we wouldn't have gotten to this point in society to where we are right now. There's a lot of stuff we no longer did our primate ancestors did that purely on instinct. You're saying you yourself have stagnated. Neanderthal. Keep making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:54 PM
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Why do you guys bitch about this so much? Men and women are different... They have different biological drives, expectations, and so on... That's life. People just want equality in opportunity and the law. It doesn't mean everyone has to be the same. Why are you guys so angry with this? We're talking about expectation of men not living at home and you're the one talking about biological differences. Sit down dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:55 AM
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I don't care. You all are weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:39 AM
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I'm going to assume a man knows how to fight better, and has greater strength. That's a smart assumption to make. There are many gender strengths and weaknesses that generally apply on bell curves. The problem is when you start discriminating based on that prejudging because of your assumption and denying them the opportunity. You are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:01 AM
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Sexism implies believing one sex is better than the other. No, that's one of the definitions. It also means prejudging or discriminating based on sex. Considering that's what you think sexism means, you have an archaic definition of sexism and that explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:44 PM
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Yeah the societal expectations come from the biological differences Sexism. I'm so glad society in general is moving away from this archaic thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:15 PM
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That sounds like sexism. We can talk about biological difference, but this is an "expectation" about living at home which is completely different and irrelevant to biology. These are societal expectations. Keep talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:52 PM
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How about equal expectation? You must hold men in higher regard to be a certain way, yet we can't with women? You're sexist and you don't even realize it. That's the problem with people like you. You believe in "equality" so much it goes straight to sexism. "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:17 PM
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How about equality of expectation? You expect men to be a certain way, yet we can't expect women to be a certain way. That's sexist talk. Sit down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:16 PM
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No and it sounds like that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:11 PM
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The facepalm is you and your archaic thinking. Check yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:59 PM
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Behavior does evolve lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:55 PM
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That's not evolution lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:25 PM
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Let's go ask the other countries where people live at home is the norm and they have high pregnancy rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:24 PM
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No, you establish how the dinner is paid. Either Dutch or the guy pays. If she wants the guy to pay, she's sexist and your time is more valuable, not the sexist's. No need to ask if they are sexist. Now you're being purposely obtuse. I am so glad I am not surrounded by people like you. Most women pays half or are the breadwinner in their relationship. You are just yet another fake feminist that only likes gender roles that suit you. You have YET to answer my question. We all know why you are ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:28 PM
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Yes.... I thought we agreed on that... Now we've moved on to the discussion who's time is more valuable. According to you, the person being asked, who may be sexist, is the one who has more valuable time. I would think you agree regardless any sexist's time is less valuable than pretty much anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 08:35 PM
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Because you didn't know about it at the time.... You know if they're sexist if they expect you to fully pay. Keep up you fake feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:49 PM
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Unless they’re sexist. It’s called dodging a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:47 PM
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Good faith? That’s code word for you’re losing the argument and don’t want to be called out as sexist hypocrite feminist. Regardless, you called it wasting “her” time as if a sexist’s time is more valuable. We know ow which side you prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:11 PM
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I like how u/apresonly is ignoring my question. Stop calling yourself a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:26 AM
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Watch you beat around the bush on this question. If the woman expects the guy to pay because it fulfills a gender role, is that sexist and not congruent with feminism? I expect an actual answer. Yes or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:04 PM
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Yes he should. But if the woman expects the man to pay, she's sexist. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't sound like you agree with me if the woman expects it. I recommend removing that feminist tag because you are not a feminist. You are yet another fake feminist feminists are littered with. First wave feminists must be rolling in their graves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 07:38 PM
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No, but if you expect men to pay period, because that's his role, and you don't want to date him because he's not paying for the date, that's what makes it sexist. I recommend removing that feminist tag because you are not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:42 PM
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You still expect it though even if you communicate it. That's that makes it sexist. Much like saying, "I think black people are all murderers" doesn't make me less racist just for communicating it. Stop dude, you're not going to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:07 PM
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No, it's the expectation that the guy should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:49 PM
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I like how your tag says your a feminist yet you love gender roles. Such a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:51 PM
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It would have made me feel more like a man. I know that sounds shallow, Yum, toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:06 PM
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I agree. Much like me going on a first date and you not wanting to go Dutch and me filtering you not wanting to go on a second date because it correlates to other sexist values I don't agree with doesn't make you a victim either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:47 PM
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No they don’t. Men can be old and ugly and as long as he has a good job You saying it doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:46 PM
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What a great date where we are supposed to learn more about each other by doing an activity where we can't talk for 2 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:46 PM
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If two consenting partners are fine with gender roles, then that's on them. It's when one wants gender roles and the other doesn't and the other expects it for the other that is wrong. Like there is nothing wrong with a SAHM and a bread winner father if both parties are fine with it. It's the expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:02 PM
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Then that's on you. Again, don't be surprised if they fully expect you to fulfil traditional gender roles in the future. Personally I find going Dutch does weed off people whose values I don't align with, there's a correlation. And for the record, my female friends are the same way, they pay their own meals on the first date. Or even alternate every other dates. am not some cheapo always counting every cent. Has nothing to do with being cheap. And again, this is a gender role, men are expected t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:42 PM
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equality in all things social in life, you're probably going to naturally attract the more radical feminist types. No chances are you're probably going to attract people who don't expect gender norms. Those who prefer guys pay for the first date most likely attract gender roles that benefit them and have expectations that the guy fulfil specific gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:35 PM
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Just because a woman likes the courtship tradition of the guy paying for the first date, doesn't also means she wants to become some stay at home tradwife making kids all day.. Yes, and that's what makes it hypocritical. One likes traditional gender roles when they benefit it until they no longer benefit from it. Equality is all or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:25 PM
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Then that is not congruent to gender roles. If I want you to be a stay at home wife and I take control of all finances, don't get mad. Don't get mad when traditional gender roles / culture bite you in the butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:16 PM
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The traditional gender role women have to fulfill is to be hot, young, and fit Guess what, this is for most men too, except they are expected high earners and you can probably throw away young. This is not special, and don't act like it is. I also do the traditional gender role of taking care of my kids and managing the home. If this is what you and your partner agree on then that's both on you. And I assume he fulfills the gender role of being the provider. It's the EXPECTATION that the other g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:15 PM
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You: I do not understand the resentment men have for paying for a dinner on the internet. It's common courtesy Me: Courtesy/culture can be rooted in sexist traditions. It makes you a hypocrite to expect MEN to FULFILL CERTAIN GENDER ROLES BECAUSE TRADITION/CULTURE EXPECTS IT. It then can bite you in the ass when you meet someone who wants to instill a negative gender role tradition on you that puts you at a disadvantage. You can't pick and choose gender roles because one benefits you. That makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:30 PM
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? I don't know who you are. Expectation for someone to fulfill a certain gender role is sexist and does not conform to feminism. You cant use "culture" to defend a certain (sexist) practice because it benefits you because it opens others to use a sexist cultural traditions on you. Equality is all or nothing, you can't choose which parts of equality benefits you and not allowing the disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:23 PM
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How does realizing hypocritical gender roles make you a feminist lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:13 PM
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Except a prositute is almost guaranteed to put out. A date not so much .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:03 PM
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Nope, it’s just common courtesy. Courtesy can also be rooted in sexism. It's also sexist to expect men to hold the door for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:02 PM
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This rule also applies many time between friends Absolutely false. When friends invite others to hang out or dinner, the general expectation is you pay for your own meal. That is not true when it comes to dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:01 PM
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Okay... But it's still a social norm. It's called culture. I''m not sorry but this is short sighted and rather ignorant. A lot of sexist traditions are rooted in culture, do you want to go back to dowries? You can't make this kind of argument. You can't pick and choose sexist tradition because it benefits you. That's sexism and hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:59 PM
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Okay... But it's still a social norm. It's called culture. I''m not sorry but this is short sighted and rather ignorant. A lot of sexist traditions are rooted in culture, do you want to go back to dowries? You can't make this kind of argument. You can't pick and choose sexist tradition because it benefits you. That's sexism and hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:58 PM
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Then maybe this is better. https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZ/comments/1abr3ky/gen_z_girls_are_becoming_more_liberal_while_boys/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:35 PM
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Don’t pay on the first date. Go Dutch. I found that weeds a certain type of person. They’re there looking for a partner not a sugar daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:48 AM
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While true. That’s not how law and punishment work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:02 AM
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That’s not how law and punishment works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:00 AM
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Women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:57 PM
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An invitation to a date means both parties are interested in getting to know each other and both parties are willing to invest in it. If you're not interested, then just say no. If a free meal is what gets you interested, you'd get more value just working the corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:33 PM
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I think it's fair to say that straight white men have not been victims of structural discrimination but that doesn't mean they don't face it on an individual level and that we shouldn't address it. Sure, it may not be a major problem but it is still a problem. It's like First World Problems. Yea, other people in third world countries have it worse, does that mean we shouldn't fix our First World Problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:54 AM
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Because there are people think that "love" is all you need to maintain a relationship. Those people are ignorant and are probably just looking at Hollywood love. Love, trust, etc. and being financially on the same page are one of many aspects to keep a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 08:35 PM
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To be fair, you shouldn't expect anything from a date. There are women out there that will pay half because men expect something after. Frankly, you should go Dutch and if they don't, just pay your half and leave. You just dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:40 AM
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Saying literal to also mean figurative is pretty stupid and it's also in the dictionary. How can a word be both it's synonym and antonym at the same time? Because enough people are stupid enough to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:37 AM
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Both men and women have privilege and both have a "grass is always greener" mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:27 AM
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Lol I think it's happening to both sexes. Men have unrealistic expectations for women. And women prefer men that have stereotypical gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:08 PM
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I feel bad/sad for both parties tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:04 AM
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Women have no interest in understanding male dating struggles. Yep, just like from this post: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/vcdyko/dating_women_as_a_woman_has_made_me_more/ Lesbians and Bi understand the struggles of being the "man" in the partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:56 AM
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Both can be bad. Stop making it a competition. It's mentality like this that is wrong with the gender debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:54 AM
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Men have privilege for certain things. Women have privilege for other certain things. Everyone keeps turning it into a competition. It's not. There are advantages and disadvantages for each sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:00 PM
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Whoa, sensing the misandry here. I'm not going to bother arguing someone with a sexist premise. I prefer arguing with people actually open to new ideas. I'm sorry men hurt you. Hopefully you find some good ones. Good bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:38 AM
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ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:34 AM
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I live in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:30 AM
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Women exited the work force because it made financial sense, women in general made less while the husband made more. I'm not going to blame couples, men or women, for choosing what makes the most financial sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:28 AM
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One thing the pandemic taught us is that women exited the work force, setting back women's rights for decades, to return at home because they tend to make less, and their job was more flexible, unlike men's. So once everything does become equal, it will be curious how the family dynamic changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:23 AM
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Increasingly yes. But men still are predominantly the breadwinner. This is especially true in the past. There are still stigma for men being the stay at home parent. Give dads credit, are their losers out there, yes. But most dads want to be their for their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:14 AM
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Probably because they're the breadwinner...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:39 PM
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Why does it matter? No one should be hitting anyone period. Why is your bar so low?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:01 PM
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Why does it matter? No one should be hitting anyone period. Why is your bar so low?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:00 PM
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DV should include any type of hitting. Men unfortunately tolerate being hit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:00 PM
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https://youtu.be/-4EDhdAHrOg
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:44 PM
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Your thoughts on women that dump men who opened up them when they're in a relationship because they wanted a "strong" man? And thoughts on the nail video?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:28 PM
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Seriously. Men need to be responsible for their own birth controls.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:59 PM
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You shouldn't. And men shouldn't trust women either. Imagine if both use birth control, you've essentially reduced your chances for a pregnancy to zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:56 PM
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I think in a relationship both should be pleasing each other. If one is doing most of the effort, it's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:37 PM
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I love, love hearing bisexuals' (and trans!) unique perspective. They often get to experience both sides. One of my favorites is when straight partners not only refuse their partners to go out on outtings with the opposite sex, sometimes even refuse their partners to have friends of the opposite sex. Then bisexuals reply then that they guess bisexuals aren't allowed to have friends then. If you're worried that your partner will cheat on you when with the opposite sex, it's not because they're st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:40 PM
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I'm sorry you haven't met good men in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:42 PM
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You seem jaded. I'm sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:06 PM
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True, but things will settle down and stabilize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:06 AM
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What a sexist comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 02:44 AM
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If you buy a brand new car in your early 20s by taking out a loan, no offense to anyone, you already made a huge financial mistake. A used car ~5 years old makes more financial sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:58 AM
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Both can get desperate and end up being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:02 PM
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slight joke, drinking coffee for 8 hours. That's a lot of coffee lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:35 AM
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Why guy and not both and have each pay for their own shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:09 AM
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Yea, I live in a city. You're not going to be alone in any park lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:08 AM
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Have her pay for her own food. She can buy whatever she can afford and you buy whatever you can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:08 AM
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Stop paying for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:06 AM
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Wow, you both must have had the jitters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:05 AM
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The problem with marriage when things get too complacent is that it's harder to get out of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:35 PM
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Barriers to entry for a marriage, wtf lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 07:34 PM
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