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I don't know if she is having some emotional health difficulties because that crying isn't normal, but this relationship isn't working out. There is nothing wrong with someone wanting to live with their bf/gf, but it's not that easy to compromise on and neither of you sound happy or compatible (from what you've written) in this relationship. Personally I'd work things out with the finances (lease etc.) so you can stop living together ASAP and break up with minimal drama. I'd then do a mindmap (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 07:44 PM
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Not if you want someone more attractive or want something specific. You can find nudes of men and women all over the internet, if it was just about dirty pics people would just go on Google/Bing/pornhub and a lot of snapchatters sell a girlfriend experience type package (sexting, asking about your day as well as 'exclusive' pics). They're catering largely to dudes who are less attractive and have no mass appeal. There are plenty of gay guys who are less attractive and have no mass appeal. If a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 07:24 PM
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Body count of 1, but fiancé previously dated a close friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 10:22 PM
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....according to this I'm a slut :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 09:35 PM
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It's different, but most women don't do it because they find it unappealing compared to a job. I think there's a decent market for gay Snapchat, I'd have thought the lower saturation would drive prices up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 12:07 AM
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Guys can do the same for men if they want. There is a stigma attached and it is viewed as 'sex work', I'm using the definition of 'using yourself to provide sexual gratification to others for profit ' which I think is reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:00 PM
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I think women are less likely to bully overtly. They can engage in a vicious pattern of behaviour that is very difficult to prove as a case of bullying, men are usually more obvious. I wasn't bullied particularly, but most bullying as a teenager is same gender ime. When cross-gender bullying does happen I think boys/men are less likely to have the social skills to handle it well. The degree of 'badness ' with girls varies highly, my high school was pretty clique-y at times so few girls were univ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 12:06 PM
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It's when they're sick enough to not do anything at home or need taking care of, but not sick enough to go to the doctor. I think part of it might be periods, I'm used to having cramps/stomachache and being nauseous for a couple of days a month. For a lot of women this isn't noteworthy, men have less experience dealing with this so she comes at it from the position you're either sick enough to see a doctor or okay to get shit done and he comes from the position where this is the worst he's felt …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 11:30 AM
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These are sex work, with the possibility of getting doxxed.I This is 'free stuff' in the same way that going to work is free money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 11:18 AM
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I know how to hold them and still better than a weapon you won't draw in time or could easily be taken off you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:31 PM
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I've been going to the gym since I was 13, a lot of men could use weight alone to overpower me. I did judo for 3 years and kickboxing for 2. I have engaged in casual wrestling with my fiancé who is 5"8 and has never done any real martial art/boxing training he is stronger than me. I can throw a guy that size if he's going along with it, but I'm assuming most rapists won't be. I doubt MMA is going to increase my bone density or make me bigger or broader. I can hit with keys in a safe effective ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:30 PM
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I will lose against most men in any kind of fight. Stabbing with keys and then running is my strategy. Keys are much more time efficient than MMA particularly considering how unlikely I am to get attacked in the street and I am small enough (just under 5"0) that MMA training will offer relatively little benefit over one vicious blow. I am stronger than average for my size, but that's still not saying much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 05:11 PM
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I'm 5"0ish and was fed 90℅ organic, free-range growing up..... Unless you're seriously malnourished diet doesn't affect height much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:48 AM
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I disagree with gun, by the time they're close enough to be a clear threat she doesn't have enough time to draw it. Keys in hand and a spray are preferable imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:45 AM
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In this case casual commitment would be a continuation of the FWB but with exclusivity. A real relationship would be a romantic relationship with the aim of spending your life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 07:00 AM
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Thanks :). It should be really good!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:41 PM
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In the grand-scheme of decades long relationships it's a very small amount of time really. My bridal gown is very poofy and perhaps not my first pick, but it reminds me a little of the old Disney princess gowns so there's a bit of nostalgia there and great-grandma is absolutely over the moon and fiancé has promised that if he laughs when he sees me in it I'm allowed to step on his feet during our first dance :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:33 PM
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That's pretty shit then. The one I went to had a moulding/sculpting station (sober rule tho), a wedding scrapbook table, there was silk painting on the bridal party outfits (and everything else) and a paintball fight. There were also sketchpads and small palettes and things if you just wanted to do your own thing. Instead of a gift everyone was supposed to bring a thing to do or some alcohol, so there were lots of lots of beads, leather scraps etc. It wasn't really my BiL's thing but he got a ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:21 PM
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We're atheist-agnostic, but we have very loving very supportive families and some old relatives (80s and 90s) and they haven't pushed for it but it's very clear they desperately want a church wedding (my side) and a traditional Jewish ceremony (his side). For some of them this might be their last family wedding, so my FMIL and GPIL got to plan the Jewish one because the prospect thrills them, my mum and great-grandma got to plan the church one and fiancé and I got to plan 3 parties so everyone's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:11 PM
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Were there like other activities? I went to an art-themed reception which was fun, but I could definitely see some people not enjoying it and it being less fun sober.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:03 PM
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I love wedding (reception) planning. We're going to have to do two ceremonies which is a pain tho :/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:01 PM
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They don't spend much social time with women so a lot of their interaction with 'real' women is following instagrammers, YouTubers etc. These women take selfies a lot either for their brand of because they like taking selfies so although they only form a small percentage of the population they are more visible. When visiting Facebook you see selfies not all the time they spent doing things that weren't photographically commemorated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:56 PM
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I'm not even 5"0 and weigh under 100lbs. I can outrun most men any kind of fight beyond make them let go and flee is an automatic loss. What advantage would it give me that being a fast runner and carrying a spray that can be used offensively and keeping my keys in hand to stab with wouldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:52 PM
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Do they value casual commitment as an end goal or do they see it as a step towards a 'real relationship'?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:45 PM
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So he confirms my expectations but then admits it when I suspect he's lied? Those would both be negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 11:24 PM
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Thanks :) Your friends were probably trying to look out for you, but there isn't always a universal 'right' decision and the way you handle things personally and view sex greatly affects the outcome of casual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 11:10 PM
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If they can live largely independently it wouldn't greatly affect my decision. If they required a lot of nursing or it interfered with our relationship that would be a different thing: no or very low libido; unable to get around the house by themselves or travel (I would be fine with them needing to use a taxi or public transport). Things that would greatly affect my decision would be emotional stability, particularly because I want children in the near future and a crying baby plus poor mental …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 10:45 PM
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It boils down to a few things imo. For a lot of women with a low partner count, if that is what you're after, a history of casual sex is a turn off, having current casual sex is a dealbreaker. You sound like you're into woman 2, continuing a sexual relationship with someone you are started to have romantic feelings for but don't plan to date has a very high chance of screwing you up or leaving you in a relationship that isn't ideal. Given that both these women seem to be more interested in you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 10:30 PM
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1 - III+, definite dealbreaker. Sex is meaningful to me, I have nothing against people having meaningless sex, I have no interest in a sex-based relationship or having sex that means something to me but not my partner. 2 - III, I might see this as openness rather than him making sex the focus/bragging, but still not ideal. 3 - II, why is he randomly bringing this up. 4 - IV, we might have matching views of sexual importance. 5 - II/III, if this is during an actual relationship he's been treating…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 09:21 PM
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Mid-30s is not necessarily unattractive, but usually less attractive than men in their 20s and with looks that are starting to decline. IMHO a smaller age gap is more desirable for maintaining long term attraction. There are some guys 15 years older than me who aren't unattractive, but I'm not sure if I'll feel the same in 10 years when they're almost 50. I think building a life and careers together leads to more satisfying relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 09:00 PM
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One of my friends had a Dad that decided to 'follow his dream' of being a musician and go 'touring' in Europe (he paid for all of his own travel etc. and played in a bunch of pubs).... He wasn't abusive, but he didn't play a strong parental role either to the point that (before we became friends) I thought her Dad was dead/unknown. Her mum remarried and I wouldn't say the guy easily forged a father - daughter relationship because she was already a teen, but at least he was around enough to forge…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 07:01 PM
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Female, 20s, 1. Yes, I implied/told various family members and some church members that we were waiting when we weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:35 PM
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It's been a long while since we were virgins ;) but fingers crossed. The best to you and yours too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:36 PM
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There's always two ways of looking at it imo, he might wonder what he's missing, but a guy who slept around a lot in his teens/twenties might romanticise memories. I know my guy is pretty against casual sex and he's a great guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:12 PM
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I think it might largely be different in the UK. We both went to uni, but student loans are based on parental income, so with richer parents you borrow less and don't have to pay until you make like £25k a year. We both worked during the Summer holidays and were debtfree pretty fast. Minimum wage is higher here, so even if they work in a shop they can still make rent. Medical bills are much less of a thing/risk and benefits aren't terrible if you're genuinely trying g to get a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:05 PM
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I've been with him since he was 15, he's been very consistent in that time. There are plenty of men mature in their 20s, some that nature later and some that never become relationship material. My parents had us in their 20s and they were fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 12:57 PM
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IMO there'll always be someone out there hotter and younger than me, if he trades in someone hot enough at the time they got together, loved him enough to support him and loyal, I would feel less secure i the relationship. He's already shown how he'll act given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 12:46 PM
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I think one of the big things for me is that we both want a biological large family and I want a quick recovery time. My family went travelling every summer from when I was about 9, so I've had a lot of experiences travelling. I do all the things you mentioned, but if we start now-ish I can be done giving birth by 30 and the kids will be old enough to (properly) travel by the time I turn 40 and hopefully have flown the nest by 50 (not including coming home for the holidays). It's worth saying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 12:42 PM
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Something being instinct doesn't make it healthy or useful. A lot of treatments for mental health issues involve developing new healthier habits as instinct is often to follow the established habit. For example someone with depression might develop cleaning habits as their natural instinct is to obey their lack of energy and do nothing, but this is worse for them in the long run as they then become overwhelmed. I remember an incident where a friend nearly ended up missing a job interview because…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 12:26 PM
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Similar age to briarrose and check for marriage, mortgage, no other debt, semi-time off for a few years, certain of relationship and had some experiences. These risks aren't inherent to young people tho, plenty of older parents have higher risks of not being able to support their child as young adults, higher medical bills (US), dying prematurely (leaving you a single mother and making your child need therapy) etc. Personally anywhere between 22 and about 40 is a fine time to become a parent imo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 12:16 PM
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But there's also the risk that a guy who's left one loyal partner is more of a risk that someone without that history. If he's done it once he can do it again and that's not going to be great for you and the children either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 12:08 PM
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Neither is particularly oppressed (based just on given information). They both do jobs a lot of people don't want to. Either of them could do either job.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:18 PM
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We know we can have sex for money. Everyone knows that is an option. The reason prices are high is because we don't want to. I don't think women become prostitutes for attention and how much do you think the average woman gets from 'orbiters ' in terms of money? Because most pretty 18-25 year olds aren't single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:15 PM
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I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:12 PM
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And he can go suck dick for money if he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:12 PM
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I know??? Dude can go spread his legs too if he wants. Whichever one was more forced into their job than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 10:12 PM
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It's not some big secret that sex work makes money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 09:59 PM
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The one with less choice. Most women would choose the cashier job over putting out for random men and most men would choose the cashier job over putting out for random men. The internet does glamourise it a lot. If it was really so desirable to your average woman, why are there so many pretty 18-25 year olds wandering around not doing it. The potential money is so high because like working on an oil rig to most people it's undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 08:47 AM
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I didn't actually have sex with him. I was 14 and had a stupid over the top crush on a boy and he knew it. I did all the casual soft-asks, offering him home baking, taking him his homework when he was sick and just hanging around, the more obvious 'I wouldn't mind if you wanted to kiss me' etc. He liked my friend (which being a teenage idiot I had no clue about). Anyway I got hit by puberty and turned 15 (and was still pretty Christian at this point) we got together and I made excuses for him fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:33 AM
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So you're this height and 4lbs thinner? And about 10lbs smaller than her? You might be too underweight for a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:09 AM
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Building attraction takes time. If someone's personality makes them attractive to me it's not going to be instant, these guys tend to do better in social group game. In a cold approach she doesn't know what his personality is like and if she's not instantly attracted to him either dating him will probably be a waste of time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 12:02 AM
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Because it's an awful strategy. There are two basic components, physical attraction and personality/other. Girls/women attracting strangers will normally have at least some acquaintances/friends who they know have at least a baseline of compatibility/attraction. Why invest time/money/effort in something that you don't know offers anything you want when you have a pool of options you know offer at least some of what you want? Also given that women don't develop attraction to most guys they know a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 11:58 PM
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Maybe 0.2%? Much more if you count gay guys who I'm attracted to if they were hypothetically straight. I don't do casual and a lot of my male FB friends are either friends with my SO which rules them out, significantly older, dating a friend which unless it was a really casual relationship and I really liked them is an uncrossable line, have different life goals, are unattractive to me, work colleagues, industry connections, connected to my old church (I'm now atheist/agnostic), boring IRL, live…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:27 PM
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The tricky bit is trying to feed a sausage to a vegan. I am only semi-sorry about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 01:14 PM
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1 and 3 seem like more genuine problems imo. Not knowing how many real friends you have, one of my friends as a teen was absolutely gorgeous, when she got into a relationship for the first time she lost 4 'close friends' as well as some guys whom She wasn't particularly attached to. One guy used 'friendly concern' to attack her relationships. She got more inappropriate attention than I did, guys who were clearly way too old being creepy starting from when she was 11-ish. Her boyfriends were more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:33 AM
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Personally I think being disgusted by half your son's friends, family and co-workers is a relationship flaw and can lead to major issues. I'm close to my family and they are great, which is great, but it also means that when something goes wrong for one of them I will invest time/emotional/financial resources in them, those resources won't be invested in our relationship. Also this puts some fairly heavy limits on how far I am willing to move from my family, so.... I have adverse reactions to so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 08:40 PM
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I haven't actually watched Troy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 04:56 PM
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Not really. I do think women in an unhappy/no relationship are more likely to become heavily invested in an unattainable crush (fictional/famous), but my opinion of Orlando Bloom's body in LOTR doesn't reflect on my relationship. There's a definite line imo, where constantly comparing your SO and finding them lacking is crossing it, but being like 'damn hot' while watching a movie is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 02:57 PM
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IDK, maybe 20, but only 2 second dates, but my family kept soft-setting me up with nice boys from church/friends before I announced my atheism/agnosticism at 15 so YMMV. In terms of bfs, I've had 2, one was a date then relationship, the other was get to know each other, hang out in a group a lot, discuss with friend then date and I've been with him since I was 16 so...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 01:48 PM
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Because I took off taxes first, because you can't spend money you don't get. Then I took off median rent, because you need a roof over your head before adjusting for the cost of groceries and other goods. The PPP does things like cost of clothing, food and toothbrushes etc. The PPP would give you an accurate picture if you wanted to spend your entire pay on groceries and clothing but not pay rent or tax.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:39 PM
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That studio flat is on main bus routes, walking distance to the train station, 3 miles from the city centre (where the jobs are), in a mid-priced area and brand new. Your transport costs will be minimal. $13.5k post tax and rent is hardly awful. But it's also if you're single and doesn't count government subsidised housing and any other benefits. You don't need to pay for medical insurance or big medical bills. If you're a couple things will be even cheaper. I did some near minimum wage retail j…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:22 PM
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That's the mean asking price at first listing, it includes really expensive listings and since it only includes new listings it will include more new properties than usual. If you look at the government stats for 2016-May 2017 (the newest available) the median is £675 across England and only £495 in the North East. So $915 and $670. (Excluding states housing) While things are obviously cheaper in a couple, the West Midlands which is in the middle of the road in terms of rental market has this br…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:31 PM
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Because PPP doesn't reflect minimum wage spending habits, it's not designed for that. The minimum wager is a lot closer to the median rental than the mansion tho. This all originated from how liveable the minimum wage are, the US apartments might be bigger, but after rent the UK person can see to all their needs and be financially stable, the US person can't on a 40 hour a week work pattern.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:58 PM
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But the difference in pay is much more than the difference in cost of living. If you take tax and median rent (in 2016) from each of them the UK worker has more than 5 times as much left over for food etc. The cost of living isn't that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:48 PM
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Minimum wagers aren't generally buying McMansions US fuel price is almost exactly half, but the average mileage in the US is more than 13,000 per year and less than 8,000 in the UK. Not to mention driving is more optional in the UK. Why are McMansions more valid for adjustment than the median rent spent? For a minimum wage comparison the people in question are going to be far closer to the median rent so it makes more sense to use a statistic that reflects what they're realistically doing. The P…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:23 PM
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I didn't use PPP because after tax and rent there's a disparity of more than 5 times which I felt spoke for itself. My measure is take taxes, take median rent and then if you want to apply PPP to what's left over feel free because that's what they're going to spend on the things PPP measures like groceries and fuel etc. PPP post tax is UK $18720, US $13550 PPP post tax and rent is UK $9210, US $1781 or just over 5 times what the US employee has.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:40 PM
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No. PPP tends to be quite flawed as purchases vary between countries and the status of goods in the country (everyday essential to weekly treat) greatly affects price. PPP also tends to be less accurate on low incomes as more of their spending is on necessities so it would be better applied to whatever is left after rent, tax and utilities are removed. After basic tax and no allowances: US $13553, UK $20803 After tax and (median 2016) rent: US $1781, UK $10234 The US is cheaper on some things, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 05:23 PM
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....but $22k is enough to live on. A UK waiter could find somewhere to pay rent for on their minimum guaranteed income and cover food etc. That's much harder to do on $15k. UK staff might look for another job if they were getting no tips, but they'd be able to support themselves in the meantime, US staff would struggle on the smaller amount and risk getting fired without cause leaving them with no resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 11:46 AM
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US minimum is $7.25, UK (25+) is $10.57 or nearly half as much again. If you work 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year you get $22k, the US minimum wage would give you $15k.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 11:39 AM
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Prostitution is legal in some parts of Nevada. I'm sex-positive, but western countries treat legal prostitutes like trash. In Germany they've come very close to forcing unemployed women to becoming them, in Nevada police often enforce an unofficial curfew, in Germany they are told to offer blowjobs without condoms (keep in mind that the johns don't have to get tested) prostitutes literally save up to move back to Romania, in Nevada women don't have the protections of an employee but also get cal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 09:16 AM
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If you read the end of that article his authority over her ended badly with encouraging a sexual act she hated with another guy, that guy shamed him for it and he apologised. Later he tried to do the same thing and she snapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 09:05 AM
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I consider the height thing different because even if they lied online, when you're naked with them their height is either tall enough to attract you or not. The trans thing can be much harder to detect in say low-lighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 08:37 AM
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I don't usually flirt to get things, but if you're sweet and pretty or handsome and cheeky and remember a few things about people you'll just happen to get free stuff. Not cars and diamonds, but there's a guy who'll always put his staff discount on my shopping, old pastries, lots of boiled sweets from old people, that sort of thing. Yesterday I got two free pizza vouchers instead of one, but I didn't do anything special to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 06:48 PM
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I think people might be willing to save Hawking over Bolt (if he was still alive) because physicality isn't as prized as it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 01:13 PM
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Equal value. I just think determining physical equality is very difficult. But I don't think guns offer any real protection for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 01:11 PM
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Just out of curiosity what was your opinion of Stephen Hawking? To be more accurate you can be equal without being physically identical. Lifespan vs. strength for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 12:49 PM
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Yes, but it's difficult to measure. I'm 5"0 and a little bit, am I physically equal to a guy I can outrun, outswim, outclimb and outlive but can't outfight? There is more than one measure of physicality. Equality is hard to measure when there's more than one metric to look at. Equal is also used as a measure of value/worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 12:41 PM
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How are you determining equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 12:37 PM
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Do you disagree about guns offering little protection to women and being dangerous to them in many cases. We don't generally judge people's worth on physical ability or Stephen Hawking would have died decades ago, unless they are athletes or equivalent. There are also different ways of evaluating physicality. I'm faster than most Western adults of either gender, if they grab me before I realise they're a serious threat it doesn't stop me from being screwed. I'm fairly healthy and rarely get sick…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 12:08 PM
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Most people with anxiety are functional. Men have a lower rate of diagnosed depression but when looking at the populace as a whole many men seem to have it. Men are less likely to seek mental health services than women and you need to see a doctor to be diagnosed. I will say that I do know some women who get very anxious pre and post natal. Personally I had a major phobia as a child and after professional help and a lot of familial support the phobia is basically gone. I will say that sometimes …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:15 AM
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Women have usually worked throughout history, non-working housewives were common in the West for a few decades out of millenia. Mortality rates are lower and not having such a high risk of dying in childbirth and steady access to food probably makes pregnancy less stressful. If not working in a coal mine or being sent off to war is a privilege then most Western men today are very privileged indeed. Most women today can't simply not work, there might be a very small percentage, but unless she is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 07:06 AM
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Guns aren't that useful unless she knows he's a serious threat while he's still a long way away. If he's next to her and she tries to go for a gun who do you think will end up holding the gun? You can be equal without being physically equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 06:48 AM
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Her standards seem to be each party having the opportunity to seek counsel (so not the week of the wedding) and not contravening any laws or signing away rights that aren't yours. Which all seem very reasonable. Comingling premarital assets can also be a problem as money is fungible and you can turn a premarital asset into a marital asset. The prenups got thrown out because they were invalid to begin with. She has legal experience and she considers them invalid because as someone with knowledge …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 12:16 PM
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The Petrakis case you linked is literally the one Atlas mentions in her linked OP as the only one she could find. All the other ones linked were ultimately upheld. In the Griffin case the child support clause was modified because you can't sign away your children's rights, but a geographical restriction was placed on the mother which also doesn't exist in the prenup. Apart from that it was mostly generic statements like it happening a lot in California.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 09:48 AM
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Men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 10:11 AM
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The birth defects thing isn't necessarily accurate. Overweightness/obesity/diabetes tends to be higher in both occurrence and extremity in mid-30s plus and obesity/diabetes is linked to birth defects even in younger women. I am anti-fat-shaming, but sometimes people are very nervous around the topic of obesity and this is actually useful information not screaming 'fat slag' at someone which is fat/slut-shaming. Fertility is lower because the ovarian reserve is lower and the body does ration the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 11:34 AM
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She could have and I personally would have, but he'd acted like a cunt. From the way the story is told he was smug about getting something for nothing and as revenge goes it was fairly minor and made her feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 11:12 AM
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When you cook for friends they usually bring drinks/dessert. She probably didn't feel like feeding him and then telling him to leave either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:25 PM
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Not really, she didn't feel like fucking someone who was selfish out of bed and probably just as selfish in bed He made it clear he didn't care that she wanted wine. She got a nice night to herself with leftovers for the next day and she could have gotten another guy over in 5 minutes flat. As a woman, if you really want casual sex, you can just snap a pic, go on tinder, swipe right and ask them to bring a nice bottle of wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:14 PM
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We're currently using contraception, but I've had the implant taken out which would be enough if just using a condom counted. It's in quotes because a lot of completely-unforeseen-accident babies are due to being sloppy with BC. We aren't currently trying to conceive, but we're not taking proper care either and I've stopped drinking wine with Sunday lunch just in case. I think a 100% explicit contract would be the only way to go if any.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:04 PM
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Almost no one is willing to jeopardise their career for a brand new relationship with someone they've only met in person days ago. She might not have lost all her subscribers immediately because the moment the guy gets the girl is exciting and fun, but there's a reason it's usually the end of a movie. Few of them would maintain interest and building up a couple's channel is tough especially when it would mean recruiting an entire new demographic, not to mention how he plays on camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:31 PM
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A lot of it was evolutionarily sound tho, without properly clean water washing could encourage wounds to become infected especially since, with higher levels of malnourishment, the immune system didn't always have that many resources. Add that to the lack of heating, body fat and extra cloth to dry yourself with amongst a lot of people and there was a very real correlation of washing more making you more likely to get sick. Without the science behind it or proper studies they cxame to reasonable…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:45 AM
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I think they're arguing essentially 2 markets. The overweight and the in-shape, not eating doughnuts doesn't give you a competitive edge over others in the fit market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:38 AM
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I mean lots of women keep 'accident' babies. There's a differencxe between not wanting to create a child and not wanting a child that comes into existence. We're planning on conceiving late this year or early-mid next year, a baby now wouldn't be 100% ideal, but he'd be devastated if I got an abortion or if I had a baby and was like 'well we did use a condom so....it's only my baby.' TBH the contract sounds like the easiest thing the online thing sounds like it would be easier to wiggle out of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:35 AM
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If this wasn't planned at all, I'm surprised he expected it to go anywhere, her sexual pseudo-availability seems to be a massive part of her brand. Being a SINGLE hot girl is a big part of the image she's selling, it would be really difficult to transition that into selling a romance longterm although the first few streams might be new and 'exciting' especially since her current audience doesn't match the target demographic for most romances (boys/men vs girls/women). Also I went to the US to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:25 AM
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I'd agree with anything that interferes with their job. If you briefly flirt with the clerk and they aren't busy and you aren't pushy I don't think it's wrong. Although I will agree that since she can't leave or be rude so flirting with her with intent after the first time can be a dick move. If she has earphones in or is reading etc. If she isn't open to paying attention to other people (will she immediately notice you when you walk up or will you have to disrupt her to get her attention). In g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:09 AM
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You can stay in a relationship because you love your partner and still feel exhausted, all relationships have their problems. Women are more likely to have their sex drive be suppressed in stressful situations than men altho obviously YMMV. It's more not being able to enjoy sex or be in the mood than specifically being unattracted to your SO. I do think that men are more likely to "barf all their problems" over one person than vice-versa, tho I think more of it in terms of emotional resources, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:54 AM
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Women want to be part of their partner's support network, they don't want to be their partner's support network. This is true for both genders, no one wants to get buried under someone's issues and sometimes he has way more to deal with than she thought he did and wasn't prepared to deal with that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:15 AM
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I think the point she's making is that since men have fewer emotional outlets they tend to use the romantic one very heavily. If you have a partner with an ongoing crisis such as cancer/depression it's very easy to get burnt out. A woman might be more likely to receive 40% of her comfort from her SO, 20% from her sister, 30% from several friends and the other 10% from various coworkers/neighbours. A man might be more likely to get 80-90% from their partner and 10-20% elsewhere. People need breat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:09 AM
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It's fine in balance. Most people don't want a partner they can't rely on because the partner is always in crisis or feeling like they have to careful about what they say all the time. One thing I do agree with is men having fewer outlets and being more likely to flood their partner with emotional neediness once they get close because it's all been bottled up. Being a functional adult is very attractive. Men often relate differently than women do so sometimes being emotionally vulnerable with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 09:59 AM
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I wasn't arguing that being 5"8 isn't a disadvantage on the whole just that the hit in SMV is quite small until you hit 5"7-6 and below, assuming US/UK. We've been agreeing it's a disadvantage just arguing about the degree. IMO it might be easier for hookups because there are a lot of lifts in the 1-2 inch range so they can fake average height very easily whereas it will become apparent in a relationship. There are also some guys who wear lifts because a longer leg to torso ratio is more attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 09:21 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 09:09 AM
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Undue influence can be used to void a contract in court. The idea is that the influencer led you to misunderstand the contract because they were in a position of trust. It can be used in cases of elder abuse and is why it's better for both sides to have their own legal representation. So you can use it to argue against the presumption that you understood it, so it is my response. Disclosure of assets, rather than signing away rights to assets before the marriage in general it's usually better to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 08:23 PM
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The average height is 5"4, most women don't wear 4 inch heels all that often even to clubs, he's still taller than most women most of the time. 2-3 inch heels are more common which would still put him a little taller than them. I think 5"6-7 and below is where it starts to have an effect because there's a lot of height crossover and 5"5 and below is very difficult because with and without heels a lot of women will be taller. Fiancé is 5"8-ish which is as tall as I'd want him to be, but he is vis…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 08:15 PM
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Not always true. Contracts can be voided due to 'undue influence' which is when the person signing the contract was influenced by a person they believed to have their best interests at heart, such as a family member or lover. This is often used in regards to intra-family contracts and can be dealt with by using separate lawyers. A contract that doesn't accurately represent information such as assets is also often voidable, sometimes under the term misrepresentation. If the full information is pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 08:04 PM
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Without disclosure they don't know what they're signing away rights to and without legal representation they might not have fully understood the contract. That isn't a special prenup thing, in the US a statute being vague to the point that citizens can't fully understand it is enough to get it struck down. Google Vagueness Doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 06:42 PM
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Here Studies do seem to vary on it, possibly depending on how they get their sample, but while I've seen some with much more obese women than men I haven't seen the same with overall overweight. I like this study because it picks a sample size for the state based off the percentage of the US population it represents. A lot of other studies end up using samples that heavily favour certain states possibly because advertising draws in more from some states than others. So rather than 10 fit men goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 06:35 PM
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Being worse off than a guy 6"2 isn't the basis most of us were using. When thinking of a disadvantage you compare it to the average which is like 5"10 in the USA. 5"8 isn't short compared to most women, if a guy's 6"2 he's noticeably tall which is a bonus for most women although I personally think it's too tall, 5"8 is still taller than them. I do agree on online dating where you have to fill out your height tho, but in person, particularly if we're either not standing next to other men to compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 08:55 AM
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But while more women might be obese, more men are overweight OR obese than women. So while an overweight guy might be slightly more likely to have to go for an obese woman than vice-versa, if a man isn't overweight there are more non-overweight women than men for him to pick from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 08:41 AM
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Women want men for a variety of reasons. If you specify one in which the normal reasons are gone (building a life together, growing old together, shared experiences, attraction etc.) then women wanting money is the reason for those relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:26 PM
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2 is ~45. That's a lot older than most women wanting kids look for as they usually start in their early 20s. If she wants 3 kids with a year before conceiving the next and dating for 3 years first he's going to be 70 by the time the last one is 18. She'll be in her 40s with an empty nest and an old husband she probably isn't attracted to anymore. Number 1 has a friendly face. Settle down with him and the kids will have an active Dad who will probably get to meet his grandchildren and she'll get …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 03:57 PM
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People feel more sympathetic to people who are being wronged or losing something. No one's doing anything to either of the people in your example, you can feel empathy, but people will always be more empathetic (all else equal) to the story with a bad guy. Someone who got wet in the rain is less sympathetic than someone who had a bucket of water thrown over them. One will get a lot of sympathy and everyone will feel bad for them, the other will get a few people asking but quickly forgetting. Ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 08:40 PM
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If they're low income, daycare can be more than her income - working costs, lots of men don't want to be a SAHD. There are also a lot of people who don't want their children raised by a stranger and if he doesn't want to stay home..... I think men and women have about equal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 03:54 PM
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WRT: to small penis. No, when people aim to hurt someone they attack with whatever they think will hurt. 'Slut' is often used inappropriately, I got called 'slut' for rejecting someone, they didn't literally think I was a slut AFAIK, just that calling me one would upset and hurt me. Virginity would be against TRP working and (unhealthy) weight gain would be evidence of not implementing it. The last(only?) person I called a slut was bullying my baby sister, I don't know if she was promiscuous, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 01:46 PM
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The thing is that it's a biased sample. Most RP folks are people who weren't doing well with whatever they did before and do better with RP, most BP posters are doing fine without RP, so sampling active users doesn't give a good view because people it doesn't help quit and so don't feature in the sample. When I gained a little weight after starting uni I tried the Atkins diet. It didn't really work for me so I quit and just switched to making healthy snacks in advance and portioning food before …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 01:36 PM
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It's more like having a friend you can't rely on. You have a great time with them, but sometimes you want more and the time you invest in this person is time you spend not getting that somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 01:08 PM
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It might not be as common, but yes. A lot of the time it's mutual usage. Sometimes he wants more and she doesn't, or she keeps him on the backburner so she's got a steady supply of sex while looking for a relationship and worse case scenario she's got him as a backup plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 01:05 PM
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She's actively using him, with an incel no one is doing anything to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 01:02 PM
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He shouldn't have a problem. IMO height really becomes a hindrance when he stops being noticeably taller than women so 5"6-ish and below. Personally too tall would be a disadvantage, but I'm very short so.....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 12:37 PM
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I think a huge thing is guys know that they are safe to be around. A lot of the time when I worked retail a guy would get insistent on offering me a lift back when I was catching the bus. The thing is that we start from the position of not being sure you are safe. Their assumption since they know they are great guys is that we're refusing because we don't want them to go out of their way, when really we don't want to isolate ourselves with them. What's creepy changes drastically depending on how…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 12:14 AM
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One of the things, for me at least, is that a lot of guys who do this are maybe double my weight. I'm on the smaller side even for a woman, but in height alone, you're about 30% bigger than me (I'm a touch under 5"). The same percentage difference between you and a guy would put him at 8"4. I think it does help some guys because it's not something they've ever really thought about. In most scenarios things turning physical won't end well for me, which I think might be why men and women have an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 12:12 AM
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Jaime's sister yanks him around by the cock, she gets whichever men she wants and he pines after her. He might be good at sports, arrogant and pretty, but alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:39 PM
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More attractive women are more likely to get a good offer early on and is less likely to need to leverage sex. An attractive woman can get an '8' for a relationship an unattractive woman might only be able to get one for a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:33 PM
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In terms of something I've experienced imagine the guy doesn't get out of your space when you lean away from him. You thank him for the offer but say you can buy your own drink. He orders one for you anyway and sits next to you and you brush his hand off your thigh and say 'No thanks, I have a boyfriend.'. That he backs off a little when you raise your voice then two seconds later is brushing his hand against your thigh again. You get up and move to the other side of the bar because you want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 09:09 PM
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I dress attractively to look good, but not massive!y sexily on a day to day basis. I also like picking out outfits. Personally, I like some attention. I want my fiancé to feel like he can take me to events and be proud about it. I also like keeping his attention. Apart from that I like casual attention (no sexual intention), maybe a couple of compliments from coworkers, a friend noticing a new necklace and a few discreet glances. I don't like being hit on persistently or catcalled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 08:43 PM
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I think it's a term used largely for people without any great qualities as a dating prospect, but also are okay people. If he's unattractive but has good social skills he's funny/charming, if he's attractive he's hot/handsome/charming etc. Nice isn't the term you use for a hot smart girl or a cute guy who makes you laugh. It's the semi-compliment used for someone you aren't into. Because she might not be hot, but at least she's not a bitch. It's used because you want to be nice about them but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 08:01 PM
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But the ratio of traditionally feminine chores to traditionally masculine chores is incredibly tilted. Cleaning might go down, but laundry, cooking, ironing, grocery shopping etc. wouldn't change all that much. Would you agree that in flats with two full time partners that it would be most fair for a near equal division of traditionally feminine chores? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 03:41 PM
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What is your opinion on this as more couples are living in flats which don't have the same need for 'manly labour'? Cooking, cleaning, shopping and bills etc. take much longer than 'manly labour' in most households. If one partner stays at home or works sub-35 hours a week they should take care of most of it imo. A gender split between two full time partners would be grossly unfair in most modern day households.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:48 PM
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Sorry, my bad. I didn't explain that very clearly; I was looking at days of pay rather than working weeks, so I used to get paid for 30 days (not just the number of days I worked in 4 weeks) plus public holidays and now I get paid for 42 days plus public holidays. So I went from 6 weeks plus public holidays to 8 weeks plus public holidays.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 07:35 PM
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No, I'm saying you can't study sex differences within a single country and extrapolate the data to say it applies to all countries, or that the differences found are due to sex rather than cultural. The PISA study found that in most countries at 15, girls outperformed boys at reading and boys outperformed girls at mathematics. However, the stats for Malta are very different to the global average and so like the Chinese high school girls you really can't generalise from it alone and get an accura…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:14 PM
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It's not bad, I'm assuming they have others on photos etc. With the cab driver message, I'm surprised they didn't comment on the negative just the length, I've never used online dating, but mentioning time wasting and 'not going to change' in the first message isn't ideal IMO. He mentions problems before they even reply to a first message.... I agree with not directly commenting on their appearance (if you're messaging them they know you're attracted), not calling them an endearment, keeping it …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 10:41 AM
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Depends if it's a need or a want. The lack of consent requires a lack of choice, if it's a want she could choose to go without it, if it's a need she has much less choice in the matter. Needs: medicine, shoes, shelter, food, clean water, 'feminine hygiene supplies' and heat in winter etc. Things she needs to survive, maintain a job and be healthy. Semi-needs: internet access, transport (like a bus or car) etc. Things you need to live a normal life, but can survive without. Wants: nice shiny car,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 10:29 AM
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It mostly tests education vs less educated. Speaking as someone raised UMC, having children before marriage would reflect badly on us in the eyes of our peers, particularly certain members of our families, this pushes the time starting a family back. Government benefits are worth less in relation to income; if you usually make $100k a year taking time off to have a baby will cost more and the costs of raising that baby in your lifestyle will be higher. Fiancé and I earn enough between us that we…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 10:03 AM
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What about family history and natural benefits? Are you genetically fit and intelligent or well-educated and work out a lot while carrying a lot of bad genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 09:26 AM
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But if you're testing what they've been influenced to be, rather than natural tendencies, you can't extrapolate the data to give any kind of understanding of the relationship dynamic across cultures. A study that tests 'multitidinal' meanings provides data that is near useless because it's difficult to see what the results actually mean. If you test You need large samples of adults from multiple countries to do that. For a slightly exaggerated example showing the difficulties of sampling from a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 09:18 AM
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Because people's brains change significantly during adolescence. On the whole the brains of each gender are exposed to different ratios of hormones and mature differently. Cultural effects also strongly affect gender differences. For example the Programme for International Student Assessment (2009 study of 15 year olds) found that in Malta girls significantly outperformed boys in reading and mathematical skills, with the gap in reading level being huge (72, with the country's overall score being…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 09:06 AM
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Sex has a diminishing value within a time period, just like other things such as good coffee. In a situation when you have it on tap it's very nice but the value of each incident is much lower. If you haven't had good coffee in ages you will be willing to go further to get it than it you've had it in the last day or two. That said relatively few women are driving to Chad's house at 2am. Women are more likely to engage in infidelity when unhappy in their relationship, so while they might feel tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 12:12 AM
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Custody is usually given to the mother in mediation, custody cases fought in court are usually more equal in outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 09:34 PM
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He can go for custody. There's a risk of pregnancy, but pregnancy can be stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 04:28 AM
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But adoption is no more a financial opt out for women than men. Well there's miscarriages and IVF, which both involve one without the other. If you see them as one thing then she still doesn't complete her part until she's carried it so interruption would be like pulling out prior to fertilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 04:09 AM
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OP acknowledges that both made a choice that resulted in baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:44 AM
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Adoption only works if neither parent wants the baby, it's pretty equal in that if either parent wants the baby the other owes them financial support. A woman's place in the reproductive cycle is conceiving and carrying to viability, if she refuses to do either of those things she can't be forced to. A man's place is impregnating and again, he can't be forced to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:42 AM
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Adoption only works if neither parent wants the baby, it's pretty equal in that if either parent wants the baby the other owes them financial support. A woman's place in the reproductive cycle is conceiving and carrying to viability, if she refuses to do either of those things she can't be forced to. A man's place is impregnating and again, he can't be forced to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:42 AM
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One is a victim of crime, the other is an accident. You can get raped while sober and it's not really a natural consequence, a hangover would be. You can greatly minimise the risk by sleeping with people you trust and always using a contraception(s) that you feel lowers your risk to a level you're willing to accept for example a vasectomy and condom, spermicide and condom etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:35 AM
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It's consent to a risk, you do the activity you consent to the risk. Both partners can be on the same page with not wanting to get pregnant, but on a different page regarding termination. You have people willing to use contraception but not abortion. My period was slightly late once (you could normally set your calendar by the bloody thing) and we were using the pill, condoms and spermicide and he was strongly against the idea of me getting an abortion (I was very unsurprisingly not pregnant) it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:28 AM
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:\ I'd type something longer, but your comment is already 30+ minutes old. Found the quote: "Better come quick—with every passing moment, these puppies grow older and less deserving of our attention."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:06 AM
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He offered the deal of he'll take care of the kid as a single parent. She made a decision and the consequence was that she has to pay for the child, she is paying for the child, that's what happens when one person is clear from the get go that they don't want the child and there's no relationship. He still thinks that trying to force her to take care of a baby she never wanted is not only a viable plan but what should happen. I don't know her, but loving parents have accidentally left a baby in …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 03:02 AM
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He had a baby with the gameplan that the woman involved would completely reverse on everything she'd said up to that point because he was convinced she'd bond to the baby. He then wanted to force her to spend time with a baby she has no interest in because he's still focused on the idea that she will/should raise the baby with him. She's paying child support like she should be doing and I think she gets sympathy because she's more than fulfilling her obligations, OP sounds like a dick and having…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 02:49 AM
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Babies have a much higher market value. I don't know if you've ever watched Community, but there's a quote along the lines of "each minute these puppies become less cute and deserving of our attention." I made my > :\ face, it's kinda funny and then your brain makes the connection and yep. There are rules so that it's only supposed to cover pregnancy related costs, but if my fiance and I ever decided to use an American adoption agency to give up a son, that tall, blue/green eyed, blonde/red hair…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 02:21 AM
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Yes it is. He's saying that each of them is responsible (him for where his sperm ends up, her for whether she's fertile), if a partner takes appropriate steps to minimise their own risk (condom+spermicide) and (implant) they should be fine, everyone is responsible for reducing the risk to a level they are willing to take. I'm saying he can be celibate, or avoid putting viable sperm in a vagina by using a condom and spermicide or other appropriate measures such as a vasectomy and condom, to the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 02:11 AM
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So you don't believe in taxation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 12:23 AM
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We've always gone with each of us is responsible for being confident we can't impregnate/be impregnated and we've been dating since we were 15, although we had a front row seat to teen pregnancy havoc so... He's always taken care of spermicide and/or condom and I have an implant. Just abstain from sex when you aren't sure that your business is taken care of. He's stopped using condoms, but we're marrying soon and want to start trying late this year; so we'd just have to bring shame on poor Catho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 12:22 AM
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It would be more accurate to compare it to getting injured during sex. Neither partner has done anything to the other without consent, but they both ended up with unexpected consequences that were a possibility going into it. One of them slips and the next thing you know you're sitting in A&E with blood running down one person's head and the other one has a bloody nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 12:02 AM
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.....technically yes, but if she'd given the baby up for adoption a lot/all of them would have been covered for her by the adopting family. If the baby is particularly in demand (white, educated parents, no parental drug use); she could have gotten pretty much everything covered (there are limits on what you're allowed to pay, but it can include the mother's living costs while expecting as well as hospital fees and aftercare).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 09:11 PM
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Not watersports, but there's a couple of things my fiance is into that I wasn't very comfortable with at first or had to be explicitly brought up and I have no idea in hell how you'd just ease into them. Like with incest roleplay or choking it's got a chance of provoking a fairly strong negative reaction. Breathplay was a hard no for me when we started dating at 15, as in don't even put your hands around my throat because I will freak out and I'm also not doing that to you. Now we occasionally e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 08:52 PM
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No, I'm taking the position that they may or may not change their mind, but you negotiate by bringing it up not doing it out of the blue. "Fuck babe you'd look great with a red ass." Not SMACK "Oops, I thought you'd changed your mind."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 07:24 PM
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It depends on what it is. There's a lot of things you can't playfully start without discussion while still being clear, for example watersports...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 07:20 PM
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She might, she might not, but negotiating is coming to an agreement not doing something they've told you not to and hoping they'll let you get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 08:55 AM
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How do you tell on someone's face that it's OK to do something you've never done before, aren't currently doing and the only time it's been mentioned they've said they never want to do it? I'm not saying take it for no as forever, just bring it up rather than launching into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 08:52 AM
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TBH, I was expecting OP to comeback with something like she's 20 and he's 13 as a 'gotcha'. So long as they're both 13+ and a similar age it would count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 08:44 AM
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She says stop and no and his reaction isn't to immediately stop and pull out? My opinion would vary based on how old they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:49 AM
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Negotiating isn't starting to do something you were told not to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:22 AM
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More or less. It does make it ever so slightly harder to find a partner you're attracted to if you're fit, but given that roughly equal proportions of each gender are obese.....unless you're unattractive in another way (teeth, hair, face etc) you shouldn't have to date far from your BMI. Interestingly tho, you know how dating supposedly becomes easier for men in their 30s? That's around when the gender ratio flips from having more men to having more women, so instead of having 105 men wanting 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 11:38 PM
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About 2-4% higher than the male obesity rate among North Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 07:58 PM
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In terms of actions taken on the extreme end of the moral spectrum (murder and other illegal actions) yes, in terms of reasoning and 'purity' not in my opinion. Women are on the whole more risk-averse, many immoral actions are high-risk even if the rewards are great. Women also tend to enjoy a wider social circle and are often more reliant on social support than men, this can lead to benefits such as more support, but also makes us more affected by social sanctions and many immoral actions will …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 07:53 PM
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You could always try to engage in parallel play rather than co-operative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 10:37 AM
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Depends on your area, but at my school they were seen as super trashy. The drug dealers got invites the same way the older students with ID did; they had something people wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 10:32 AM
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If I can't trust someone to protect their own interests why should I trust them to protect mine? Spineless people usually make poor friends and worse partners. A spineless friend won't always have your back and would rather let you make bad choices than make a fuss. A spineless partner is usually worse because you don't normally have other ones to counteract their deficiencies, people will judge you off of them and trying to build a life with them can be like trying to build a house half on sand…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 01:08 AM
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If it's deliberate it's circumventing a (bad) method of birth control just like lying about being on the pill or poking holes in condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 01:27 PM
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The issue with circumcision is that it's often a choice about someone else's body. The pull-out method is risky, but if the partners have agreed to use it then they should respect it like any other method in terms of follow-through.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 10:38 AM
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Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:46 AM
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Rape requires a deliberate decision, so an oops is fine. People do use it tho, so I'd give it similar weighting simply because people treat it as a BC method and it does lower the risk somewhat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 07:48 PM
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It's rape when it's integral to the act or person. For example lying about birth control, saying you'll pull out and then not, pretending to be a specific other person. It's fine when it's a general lie. For example saying you're 6 foot instead of 5"10 or if you make up an impressive anecdote to charm them or if you tell them you're not tired and will 100% wake up on time in the morning. It's a dick move, but not actually rape if you lie about loving them. If you lie about STDs it's assault. Giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 01:42 AM
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Is said fleshlights were fine imo. Because it looks like another person. Personally nothing I own looks like any part of another human, let alone having a full body and face and nothing mimics a partner. Female sex toys are often more about offering stimulation than more realistic simulation of sex, for example things that vibrate or use air currents. To me it's the interaction with something that looks somewhat like a human and depending on tech might act something like a human. Toys are about …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:43 AM
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Buyer's pick. In terms of attractiveness and sex acts. With casual sex the more attractive you are and the less attractive they are the better your chances of getting what you specifically want. The gap might be less for homosexual hookups but if you're an 8 with an 8 unless you strike gold that crazy fantasy isn't coming to life. There's also the potential humiliation of having them laugh in your face. You also might want to fuck someone whom is out of your league. Some guys also like the domin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:33 AM
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I disagree. I own a few things and I'd be fine with fiancé owning a fleshlight or prostate massager, but a sexdoll/bot is an imitation partner rather than just an aid. To me it's like the line between watching porn and watching a camgirl and messaging her, one falls in masturbation the other in simulated sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/18 11:03 AM
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When I buy food fiancé eats it, women do most of the domestic shopping that doesn't mean they're twisting their partner to their means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 01:36 PM
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Med school is a massive step up from high school. A friend of mine did fantastically well on her A levels, she got admission into a very competitive uni on a very hard course and she struggled. She worked harder than anyone, but the harder other people are working the more intelligence comes into play. She ended up transferring onto a different course and is now doing very well in her career, but it's very hard to make the choice to give up on a dream that you have invested so much in. TL;DR: An…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 11:28 AM
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IDK, I always associate that with not putting in any effort because they think their amazing genius will carry them through. In one it sounds like the jump from high school to college was too much. Success at uni is a combination of intelligence and hard work, enough hard work can get someone who's slightly dim through high school with great grades, but not necessarily medical school. She thought she could make it work and she couldn't. I can respect hard work and none of them sound terrible. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 11:20 AM
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Nearly all. The first few times we had sex wasn't great for me, he didn't know his way around anything and I had no idea how to explain what I liked or in some ways no idea what I did like. The one thing we had going for me was the intimacy aspect. I can get myself off in about 5 minutes flat, 15 if I want to make things really good. My interest in randoms is pretty low. I'd say 5% of 20-25 year old men will be noticeably attractive to me, although I will say that it's not an urge to fuck, just …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:40 PM
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How does that mean it's a bargaining chip? All it means is that casual sex is more valuable to men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 11:28 PM
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I am anti-legalisation, although I was previously pro-legalisation. This is because while I am okay with the idea of prostitution in theory, the way it happens in practice I am strongly opposed to. I am anti-legalisation, although I was previously pro-legalisation. This is because while I am okay with the idea of prostitution in theory, the way it happens in practice I am strongly opposed to. For example now that prostitution is legal you can be pushed into the sex industry. The owner of a Germa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 04:51 PM
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A cheater isn't much of a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 01:14 PM
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I meant in terms if being noticeably tall. In terms of dating around 5" 7-5"8 sounds right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 01:53 PM
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It's ~9.1% taller than average, the male equivalent would be closer to 6" 4 than 6" 3, so pretty tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:52 AM
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That isn't true about fertility. Mid-teen (15-17) girls generally don't ovulate with every period, meaning that late twenties-early thirties are just as fertile, often more. Peak fertility is ~19-26. Every other cycle the average 16 year doesn't even release an egg to get fertilised. The number of eggs remaining doesn't equal fertility so much as potential future fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 09:35 AM
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Probably, we don't use most of those words in normal conversation with each other. I would say that both of our families value education so if one of us didn't the family disapproval might have been enough to stop the relationship forming as we got together fairly young.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 11:35 PM
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Depends how bad the bullying was and how both feel about it now. Second scenario would never happen, I've only seriously dated my SO and my family would get introduced long before I started throwing the word love around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 12:02 AM
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I'm not sure. My fiancé has a larger general purpose vocabulary than I do, but I enjoy reading up on specific topics so I know a lot of niche words that are useful in only a limited number of contexts. We have different vocabularies, but we'd generally be considered fairly well read.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:57 PM
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The money paid to UK politicians in 2009, we're fairly small and most positions are well-paid but not insanely high amounts. It covers wages, advisors and some meeting expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 11:05 PM
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No, because he made relatively big decisions like leaving for a month with no discussion. They maintained separate residences for 2 years and it sounds like they made approximately no joint decisions. Dating imo is supposed to lead to an 'us', not a you and me. She sounds like she was semi-okay with him wanting to keep his money for himself out of principle or whatever, but then when she was struggling he was okay on spending it on other people like his sister but not her. At some point in a rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:05 PM
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It sounds fake. If I had a boyfriend and I always made sure to let him know my availability (I'll be busy for the next fortnight) I'd be pretty upset if he booked a monthlong holiday without telling me. And she couldn't be grateful for money he spent on her family when he didn't tell her. On the flipside she got into a relationship that was very different to her idea of one. He treated her more like a FWB than a girlfriend in some ways after telling her he could imagine an exclusive relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 12:40 PM
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Browsing it, it seems mainly to be on questions that will get that kind of answer. For example: What do you think of people who don't want their SO to be friends with people of the opposite sex? Has many top level comments mention abuse or control, but the question is about a partner exerting higher limits than usual. Have you ever fallen in love with someone else while in a relationship? How did that turn out? Is a more neutral question with only 1/12 mentioning an abusive relationship. There m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 11:07 AM
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Because people are responsible for what they do to others, not what others do to them. The problem is defining 'too drunk', in terms of legally punishable it's generally when one partner has deliberately intoxicated the other to a high degree while remaining sober themselves, or when one partner is largely unresponsive due to intoxication (unable to walk unassisted, unconscious, form a sentence etc.) and isn't an active participant in the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 08:53 PM
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This data "£500 million for politicians in 2009. ~£16 billion in housing benefit, £5 billion in rent rebates, £4.5 billion in council tax and £1.5 billion in carers' allowance.". These benefits are ~54 times bigger than the amount given to politicians. Given that single mothers are more likely to need support than others, it would point towards a significant chunk of this going to single mothers and their children. These benefits don't include pensions, jobseekers or other types of benefits, som…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 06:54 PM
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I was thinking of a scenario where the father hadn't been involved and it was Mum, Stepdad, kid and stepkid living together. I was mostly focusing on a scenario where the father had no interest in the child. I don't think more than the basics should be required, however current child support calculations wouldn't increase support if the father married into wealth rather than being rich on his own/promoted anyway. I've been going from a point of "abandoning your 8 year old is very different to ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:10 PM
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My problem is with back child support when they weren't notified. You shouldn't be liable for years of debt you have no way of knowing existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:49 PM
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I'm not okay with a big difference between children in the same household. The child doesn't need designer clothes, my parents didn't believe in expensive clothes for young children, but they shouldn't be supported to a vastly different level than the stepchildren. But subsidising the basics isn't an unreasonable expectation. Your child should be watered, fed, clothed, warm, dry and have something to look forward to occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 09:46 PM
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The data suggests it incredibly strongly. Do you think that less than 20% of that goes to single mothers, because the money received by politicians is less than 2% of that total. It's logical, the more money someone has to lose by accepting a bribe, the more difficult they are to bribe. Bribery is much more culturally acceptable in Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:28 PM
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I don't have the US figures, but £500 million for politicians in 2009. ~£16 billion in housing benefit, £5 billion in rent rebates, £4.5 billion in council tax and £1.5 billion in carers' allowance. I'm not sure exactly how much of that is to single mothers, but paying for children gets very expensive for the taxpayer very fast, just because of sheer numbers. The money to politicians has a practical use in dissuading bribery. If only 20% of that is to support single mothers and their children, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 08:08 PM
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It's half the foetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 05:38 PM
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Yes and he put it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:44 PM
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I hate things like this, although I will agree children are a good pull on the heartstrings. I think the child support system is odd. A noncustodial parent supplementing the custodial parent's resources to the point the child has adequate housing, some toys, adequate food (without worrying), someone to watch over them, school supplies (because the USA is weird) without jeopardising themselves financially is adequate. Unless the child has previously been raised luxuriously that should be fine, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:43 PM
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That he literally put something inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:35 PM
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The mother chose to risk someone ending up there. The father was equally involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:28 PM
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It's stupid. If child support is for the right of the child, then if the child has already been supported it's not needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:27 PM
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You're reasoning there is consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:14 PM
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There is a huge ethical difference between an effectively braindead human and a fully functioning one. It's the difference between saying no during sex and immediately attacking someone or saying no during sex then resisting after a minute or two. Once consent is withdrawn it must be respected within a reasonable timeframe. If you don't like child support don't risk impregnating someone. Choices = consequences. No human life has rights to violate another's bodily autonomy. Foetus's don't get any…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 04:13 PM
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So do you also think that if they're married when the child is conceived he should be automatically on the hook financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:59 PM
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Given that child support is for the child's needs/comfort, I don't think it should be taken away. But back child support for unaware fathers is ridiculous, if the child support for the first 5 years is to take care of the first 5 years and the child is taken care of, then there is nothing to be claimed. Child support should never start more than a couple of weeks pre-notification, and if the child hasn't been raised in a style to become accustomed to, then it should be limited to what is needed …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:56 PM
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So if there isn't a formalised agreement then you don't think a man should have any claim to any children he's fathered? There is a huge difference between holding a hand for minutes to even hours and allowing use of your body for months. With the climber, they aren't using your organs and it's not a 9 month timeframe. If someone was currently braindead, but expected to regain brain function, hooked up to your organs by your consent and there were serious health implications and substantial fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:44 PM
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If the baby is solely the consequence of the mother, do you believe in paternal rights? But not getting an abortion is not doing anything. It would be more accurate to say they both start a fire, neither of them does anything and you can't compel people to undergo medical procedures. Consent to organ use can be withdrawn at anytime. Withdrawal of consent to use of your body can be withdrawn with some notice. A main difference here is that the climber would have been fine without the use of the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 03:01 PM
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Childbirth is the consequence unless a second decision is made. If John and I decide to set fire to something and I decide not to throw water on it, he was still involved in setting fire to something. If a baby is entirely the woman's decision, do you also believe that a father has no claim to a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:41 PM
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No human can make use of another human's body without their consent. Consent can be withdrawn, if I agree to let someone hook up to my blood to use my kidneys I can withdraw my consent even if it will result in their death. The baby doesn't get special rights. If two people do something that has a consequence, like setting something on fire, even if one of the people involved could stop it doesn't remove the other person's responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:37 PM
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Both people knew the child was a risk. Society didn't decide to have sex, the two parents did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:31 PM
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No, but you also don't have to hold onto them for 9 months and let them use your internal organs. If they refuse to let go of you, you can call the police and have them removed. They also can survive in their own right and have brain activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:27 PM
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But once it's born it's a human with rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:21 PM
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No, but your car isn't your body. Car autonomy =/= bodily autonomy anymore than taking someone's car for a joyride is rape. And if you withdraw an invitation to your body and they don't leave yoj can use force to make them stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:18 PM
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If the guy will kill himself due to loss of contact with this person, the police can still force him to leave. It doesn't matter what kind of abortion someone has the loss of the use of the mother's body will always be fatal. No, but the foetus can't live without the mother. Without continuous consent the foetus can't use the mother's body. I don't believe in non-physical souls, if there's not much in the way of brain activity, the loss of the idea of a child can be very sad, but no morally diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:16 PM
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And she can tell it to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:08 PM
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No, but you can ask them to leave and if they don't leave promptly you can call someone with the ability to legally make them and the police can use force if necessary. Human lives don't have rights to other humans' bodies. Braindead coma patients have the plug pulled and an early term abortion is no different morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:00 PM
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Because keeping politicians well paid makes them less susceptible to bribery (a massive benefit to the taxpayer), each taxpayer gets a say on the politicians they're paying for and the relatively low number of high paid politicians to taxpayers means that it's not a high percentage of anyone's tax. I'm willing to pay when there is no one else, but if I wasn't involved in the decision making then it should only be when they can't or asking them to would cause harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:56 PM
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It can be a human life and still not have a right to her body. I can invite someone in and go 'ow, I don't like that if something unexpected happens' and they have to stop. The same way I can say 'No, I don't want to give you my bone marrow'. Humans don't have rights to other human's bodies. Biologically a foetus is a human life, but it's a human life the same way a brain dead comatose person is, if there's not developed brain activity I don't see a problem with pulling the plug. A child has rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:52 PM
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But she doesn't have an additional right. Everyone has the right to bodily autonomy assuming mental competence, she can reject the foetus's use of her body the same way a man can refuse to donate bone marrow or undergo an operation. When the child is born both parents can claim parental rights and provide childcare, give financial support in lieu or mutually agree to give up the baby. If she doesn't want the baby once born and you claim it, you have the same right to her financial support as she…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:42 PM
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But living people can't demand use of another person's body. My sister can't borrow my kidney, so why would a foetus get extra benefits? It's two separate arguments about two separate rights. Child's right to support and person's right to their own body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:38 PM
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Small vibrators for the clitoris, bullet vibrators (often lipstick sized more or less), a clitoris air massager thing and the butterfly kiss are popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:44 AM
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They want men to enjoy watching them get off for money/the idea gets them excited/whatever so they do it in a way that looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 11:39 AM
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She might just never want to be in the wrong or not want to talk about a more genuine problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 11:34 PM
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TBH, it sounds like either she really wants to be in the right or she is pissed about and may or may not know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 11:34 PM
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We don't argue all that much. We do our own thing for a bit, then we reconnect and discuss it like adults when we're feeling close to each other. Tl;dr: we fuck and don't have the energy for a long argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 11:30 PM
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I'm 'straight', but I'm not that straight. Assuming I know that this is it for me, probably 2, but definitely not 1 or 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:15 AM
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Historically I think the smaller geographic travel and more limited choices in terms of career were probably a big factor. Big moves weren't an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:20 PM
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Yes? If you donate a kidney to your cousin and someone kidney punches him did they assault you? If someone cuts my hair while it's attached to me without consent it's assault, if I left some in the bathroom after cutting it myself and they burn it, it's kinda weird, but not assault. Things stop being part of you once they leave your body, the same way if a woman gives birth and she's an unfit mother the baby can be taken away because it's no longer part of her body. Your choice goes away once yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:16 PM
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Because no one in society has the right to anyone else's body including their parents' bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:02 PM
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Because when a child is produced someone has to deal with it and the solution is normally the two people responsible for producing that child. He can abstain from his part in creating children by abstaining from sex. Society doesn't want to be opted in to takeover a father's responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:54 PM
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Then he can't force her to undergo pregnancy. But he can go for custody after the child is born and if she drops it off at a safe haven and he claims it she is on the hook financially. When it comes to pregnancy only her body is involved and she gets to make the decisions concerning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:16 PM
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What would you do if: A) One of your children has a condition that puts them at serious risk if you don't move to a city with a better hospital, but only their mother wants to move with one abstaining from giving input and the other two desperately wanting to keep their children in the good schools they're in now. B) You find yourself having a clear favourite, but already have children with all four and uneven division of time might result in losing your other wives and access to those children.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 10:54 AM
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Yes, but if the woman aborts the child she chooses not to finish making the child. So you don't end up with a little human that needs resources. If a man wants to abort support he's already finished making the child. Either he has rights and responsibilities, or he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 08:41 AM
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I see it as a matter of biology and responsibility. In most western countries there are no good Samaritan laws. If a woman creates a baby by having sex and carrying it to term she is responsible for it, even if that just means paying the medical bills related to birthing that child and making sure it reaches a safe haven. If a man creates a child by having sex he is responsible for it. Either ejaculating counts and fathers have a claim to their children, or it doesn't and they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:33 AM
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If a guy isn't moving on from you for a long time then it's often because he's lacking romantic opportunities with others. If he has serious problems as a romantic partner then the last thing you want to do is throw him at a friend. Him getting rejected won't make him feel any better. There's also the problem of damaging your friend group. If Mike loves me and I set him up with Sally, if it's unsuccessful neither of them gain anything apart from hanging out as a group being more awkward and if i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 11:18 AM
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We have a garden, but I can get a 100 square metre allotment for under £100 a year including the cost of seeds etc. It varies where you live but it's not expensive for most people. For most western people a horse is an expensive hobby, so it's not unfair to call it one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 01:06 AM
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Have you considered the possibility that the reason most of the people you know with horses live on farms is because it's a very expensive hobby unless you have a lifestyle that subsidises it? If your Dad owns a plane he keeps fuelled anyway flying isn't an expensive hobby. For most people flying or owning horses would be an expensive hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 12:03 AM
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Or you can just accept it's an expensive hobby and decide whether or not it's worth the cost to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 11:39 PM
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Lots of people don't have land or barns or the desire/time to grow horse food. Vets are a bit of a potluck, you can take out insurance, but if something goes badly wrong it can greatly exceed what your insurance will cover.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/17 10:42 PM
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Feelings aren't always rational but maybe one of the following: *Access to sex is so available to women that she has many opportunities to do it again. Emotional cheating involves more of a buildup. Physical cheating is a deliberate decision with hard drawn lines, emotional cheating is more of a slippery slope and it can be difficult to qualify and quantify. Men often associate the physical act of sex with self value etc more than women do. Men often have a higher sex drive than women. If she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 12:03 PM
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I don't visit my in laws to get dairyfree cake, but if it becomes available I still want a slice. It doesn't bother me, there's a difference between a change of relationship and change of activity. IMHO you can enjoy watching a movie with someone and be perfectly happy in that friendship even if you would pick a different activity like sex. If you're friends with someone but desperately want to be in a relationship with them until something changes a happy friendship is difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 11:51 AM
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No but that means that if you're going to provide false accusation stats the possibility of unreported should be included.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:05 PM
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IMHO, like any other crime there should be a policy of no names unless there is enough evidence to bring it to trial. Publicity shouldn't be so encouraged until conviction. Rape has a poor conviction rate which is awful, but it has to be held to the same standard as any other crime to avoid wrongful convictions. It's unfortunate but it's just the nature of the crime. So her name shouldn't be revealed simply for failure to convict, but only if there is enough evidence to bring it to trial for fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 06:03 PM
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But following that it's also irresponsible to assume all rapes are reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:44 PM
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But it is damaging someone's reputation and relationships, possibly getting them fired and possibly attacked/harassed as a result. Arrest reports online don't go away if you come out innocent and that shadow is hard to escape. She is attempting to get someone jail time, destroy their relationships and job prospects. That's serious damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:43 PM
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Something can be false, true or uncertain. Failure to convict means you were unable to make the court certain they did it. Say Amy says her ex raped her on Tuesday. If he was provably out of the country on Tuesday, or examining her reveals the 'evidence/injuries' were self-inflicted it's a false accusation. If he says he hasn't been near her, but he's boasted about it to his friend, his semen is present and there's CCTV of him dragging her into an alley it's true and can be convicted. If he has …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:39 PM
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Reporting active paedophiles/child molesters might make them targets for violence and harassment. But they had the option to not victimise others, a woman making a 'real' false accusation (naming an attacker or allowing someone to become a suspect rather than a generic plea for pity) had the same option. IMHO they both opted out of anonymity by victimising someone else. The same way slander laws protect you ONLY if you didn't do what you're accused of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:18 PM
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It's also difficult to prove a rape accusation. Even if sex occurred, without a degree of violence leaving damage that exceeds garden variety rough sex it's difficult to prove a sexual encounter was non-consensual. The problem with throwing in extra numbers is you also have to start adding the estimated non-reported rapes and you end up with wildly varying inaccurate numbers that people argue over with no hope of any progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:12 PM
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Men can also choose not to have unprotected sex. Birth control is cost effective, because you can't stop people having sex and BC is the cheapest option. IMHO, apart from in very rare circumstances a paternity test isn't prohibitively expensive. I don't think federal funds should necessarily be used for abortions, but I think it's wrong that so many states forbid insurance companies from covering it. I think the lack of empathy is due to the small percentage of victims and lack of comparable exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 01:40 PM
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But states generally don't cover abortion, and insurance normally has a deductible in excess of the cost of a paternity test. Getting a paternity test in the USA is cheaper than getting an abortion. Children cost a lot to raise, the number of abortions per woman comes nowhere close to covering the benefits for one child for each of those women. The government doesn't fund abortion and there is no tax incentive for people to cover it. I'm not saying this as a moral judgement, but most of the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 01:25 AM
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I have a very competitive friend and I love her and she's amazing to do quiz or game nights with and running with her is fun and always pushes me to do better. Sometimes she'll push a bit too far, but she's generally a very good friend. But she never turns it off, it might fun on dates, but very few people want to go home to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:11 PM
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~Somewhat No. Fiancé likes soft touchable clothes, he likes me wearing his clothes in particular and my fuzzy dressing gown which is getting beyond worn at this point. *We both come from religious families so while this mightn't be a dealbreaker it would make things more difficult with relatives. Being smarter than your partner isn't a problem, neither is letting them know. It matters if you care that you're smarter than your partner. I'd say we're fairly balanced on this point with each of us h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:04 PM
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Both. Relationships are about outweighing the negative with positive. If you have relatively few positive traits (in the opinion of another) small flaws are enough to turn things sour. You can also run into someone to whom your little flaw is their biggest pet peeve. You can also have a big flaw but be forgiven because you're still an overall positive to them. This also works with friends, you might be friends with the guy who is fun and loyal but also a dick and not with the guy who is nice eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:47 PM
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I think the difference is the abortion saves money long-term and the paternity test costs money long-term. With the Hyde amendment, very few abortions are covered (rape, incest, ectopic etc.). Generally if you're low income you can try a funding organisation, hope donations to PP have it covered, hope your insurance covers it, or pay out of pocket ~$500 for the pill or around 12-16 weeks. Paternity tests are significantly cheaper ~$100, but I don't see why people couldn't fundraise for fathers w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 09:26 PM
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People are more responsive to people they like/admire/feel connected to. Celebrities have a lot of people who feel they sort of know them via interviews etc. your average joe has maybe 200 people who feel they sort of know them and fewer whom care. It's the same for hot girl vs. plain older woman etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:51 PM
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JI've actually been with the same guy since I was 16. I got the number of dates before sex from a couple of askmen and askreddit threads. I think maintaining your morals are important, but also that realistically speaking taking sex off the table for a couple of months will limit your choice of men significantly. You can get to know someone while having sex with them, but I was pointing out that dating later in life can result in a higher n even if they are only pursuing serious relationships. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 04:47 PM
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And nice is the word people they use when they don't hate you but they can't honestly say you're funny, fit, charming etc. 'She's a nice girl' often amounts to 'well she might be plain and boring but at least she's not a bitch so she's got that going for her'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 01:05 PM
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There are plenty of women who like smart guys and relatively few trying to get with Hawking etc. You can like silver cars but pick a silver jeep over a silver mini, or a red jeep over a silver mini because it's not the only thing that you consider when picking a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 01:02 PM
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In all fairness to her, there are better make-up free pics of her and that's from a movie make-under.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:57 PM
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I agree. Generally speaking I think they don't want a girl who you see and immediately think 'that's a lot of make up' or a guy you look at and go 'his arms are massive.' A slight emphasis in dimorphism and general health is usually nice. A girl who uses make up to have smoother looking skin and make her eyes look a bit bigger and works out enough to be slightly toned, a guy who works out enough to have slightly broader shoulders and keep fat off his jawline are probably going to do relatively w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:54 PM
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The partner's enjoyment is part of the experience. You can't (usually) have a romantic trip with one person hating it or fun sex with the other gritting their teeth and waiting for it to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:58 PM
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There's things people aren't really into and things they really hate. I'm just assuming that the sex act/platonic act are both things the partner in question hates. I mildly dislike going to religious services but I love my family so a few times a year I go to mass with them I also occasionally go to the synagogue with fiancé's family. I hate big heights (I'm fine on solid ground like a canyon/balcony/inside) and a good partner wouldn't generally expect me to go on the London Eye with them. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:53 PM
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I think most reasonable couples wouldn't want to take the other on a holiday they'd hate. Knowing your SO is miserable puts a bit of a downer on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:40 PM
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For me I don't really see it as hypocritical or equivalent. With the first partner they're both aiming to have a good experience together and try out something new they're both hoping to like. With the second partner they know they don't like it. So instead of saying let's try France/anal together and have a good time they're asking their partner to do something they hate for them rather than something new and hopefully fun for both of them. TL;DR:imo babe let's try this we should have fun =/= I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 11:20 PM
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A lot of the time there's a beaded bit between them and not that much loose fabric. There's nothing to get in the way and they are designed to be moved in. They're more practical than a top with billowy sleeves that could get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:40 PM
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How are low cut shirts impractical?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:33 PM
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It depends, you can respect and admire someone but still have something that gets on your nerves. The problem is when it doesn't get resolved and resentment starts to fester.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:13 AM
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Some of the appeal might be a date that your friend hasn't banged. If you want some arm candy it might be nice being relatively sure they haven't had sex with the work colleagues/business partners you're showing them off to. Fear of rejection if you're older and unattractive, it would be humiliating to be rejected or looked at with revulsion with someone who offers sex for money. If they don't offer it then it's nothing to do wth you. Status, even if you don't still have it you can show her off …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:15 AM
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Fiancé and I struggled with this in the first year of uni, we'd already been together for years so just moved straight in together. He didn't know how to do laundry or much else in the way of housework. I showed him how to do everything, but I hated that I had to make sure he actually had clean clothes to wear. We argued and he said that he'd deal with it himself. I didn't remind him and he had to stay in because he didn't have anything to wear. We stopped arguing after that and he just did his …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:02 AM
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Peacocks. That nice big tail isn't great for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:00 PM
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Until ~24/25
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 01:09 PM
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It depends on what it is and whether I agree with their assessment of it being wrong. I might apologise and try to fix it. If it's not wrong I might still change my actions depending. I might correct them or I might ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 12:34 AM
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Well it's nothing with anyone and maybe she wanted sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:57 AM
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Because plating involves hanging around investing in a non-relationship rather than looking for the relationship you want. Since she was moving away, there was no relationship she could enter that wouldn't either break up or become a LDR. So she wasn't giving up the opportunity to build a relationship and so plating lost her nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:40 PM
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She mentions moving away as a factor. She might not have wanted a LDR, so casual gives the best option if you don't want nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:57 PM
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TL;DR at bottom, I ramble when drunk so please forgive any typoes! Sometimes. There are a lot of different reasons this can bother someone. It's not unusual for the lower earner to make sacrifices in their career to support their partner's which is all well and good. However if they've been sacrificing his professional development for hers, if she then decides to stay home with the kids for a while it can put them in a worse situation financially than if she'd earned less because they are now re…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:52 AM
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I think there's an attractiveness gap between Leonard/Penny and Howard/Bernadette. They got together pre-space and Howard (particularly earlier in their relationship) has some very unattractive qualities. Amy isn't stunning, Sheldon is decently tall, in reasonable shape and has some exceptional qualities. This is a fairly normal match imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 12:26 AM
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A few drinks and dessert can cost about as much as the main course and starter depending on the restaurant. Cheaper places particularly tend to have drinks that are relatively expensive compared to food.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:37 AM
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Not meeting randoms at bars, just people you don't know as well as people you went to school/uni with. Dating apps, people you've seen around, the guy you met at the shop, a friend of a friend you don't really know, someone you've briefly worked with but don't know all that well, singles nights. I know a few people 30+ and that is what they do. If you've been married you haven't gained much dating experience and if anything are out of practice. Because I went to school with fiancé, I knew his in…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 07:22 AM
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Sex is less optional in adult relationships. 10 is high, but teen girls can date for longer before sex, adult women either need to be DTF earlier on or lose her chance with that guy. There's also the proximity factor. I got together with my fiancé at school after having known him for years. Most of my friends met their SO at uni and knew them before they started dating. You have an idea of their personality, goals and how they relate to others before the first date. Dating at 30+ usually involve…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:41 AM
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How long are you willing to date before having sex? How long do you date someone for before deciding you want to marry them? Assuming they jump straight into looking for another serious partner, there's a good chance they're going to have to have sex to 'reserve' the partner while deciding how compatible they are so sleeping with a 2-4 guys isn't noteworthy. The other side of the coin is that generally (because some do cheat) you don't gain partners during a monogamous relationship. I have an n …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:28 AM
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He laughed her off when she invited him in. He'd complained that his ex always wanted to go out, never wanted to put out and was too dramatic. I picked someone who was quiet and had admitted to being very sexually-frustrated and was pretty much DTF with anyone who wasn't ancient, deformed or a serial killer. I figured at the very least they could both get laid. He then tried to get me to set him up with a friend who does gymnastics and is one of the most gorgeous women I've ever met.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:43 PM
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C, assuming they have the same option. I'm not going to spend forever feeling guilty or pressured or resenting someone for not meeting my needs in a relationship and that sounds like a shitty environment to raise kids in. I want a family and a relationship can be built on commitment to a common goal, a loving if unsexual relationship provides a decent model for how children should interact with their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:32 PM
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He has occasionally gotten laid, but he really wants the whole two kids and a white picket fence thing or at the very least someone to grow old with and he doesn't really appeal to stable women who want that all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:26 PM
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Yep, B is the one I introduce to single friends. I did set up A once when I hadn't known him that long with a nice widow in her 40s who was in my cooking class, it didn't go well and it's not something I plan on doing again. B frustrates me slightly because he's always so close to getting it right. I'm a big fan of commitment, but only when it's mutual. He'll find someone, he just takes too long to get over non-existent relationships. C was pretty fucked over from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:23 PM
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It's difficult because a lot of (perpetually) single people are single for a reason. Throwing a guy you know won't be welcome at a friend does no good. I only really know 3 guys who have serious problems (as in never had a decent relationship or never gotten laid). I only try to set one of them up on dates, guess which. A) One of them tends to go for women who are very much out of his league physically (20s, pretty face and fit) and starts out every relationship paying for everything. He essenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:20 PM
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Guns don't kill people, runners do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 11:28 PM
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I think women generally know how attractive their body is and how to fix it (lose weight/work out), face is harder to get an honest opinion on IRL unless you really are gorgeous. My friends would be more likely to give honest opinions on something relatively fixable like weight than my alien face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:37 PM
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More accurately a guy with a BMI of 25 can be trim, but most aren't. There are women at 24 who look pretty attractive and some that are visibly fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 07:01 PM
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I vary a lot. I'm in shape, but I have eyes that are quite far apart. Some guys are wildly into me, some don't mind either way, and some think I'm look kinda weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 12:51 PM
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Not really, unless you're short and/or finely built 100lb is about as small as you get, but if you just keep eating you can go up to 300lb+.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 12:46 PM
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BP is a unified theory the same way atheism, islam, buddhism, christianity and judaism are unified in not being sikhism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:52 AM
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If it's anything like the ones I've been to it's mostly couples and single women so the single guys get a lot of one on one time with various women and the couples mostly stick together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 08:10 AM
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There are more women than men in dance classes generally, women generally want to dance the woman's part (in pair dancing classes) so extra guys are usually pretty welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:59 AM
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Yeah, but we're assuming this guy will ask out more than one girl over the course of his lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:52 AM
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But if she's going to look consistently attractive she still needs to do that daily as well as eat well and do a little exercise. It would be more accurate to count the time per day you spent working out vs the time she spent doing make up and working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 10:14 PM
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Agree with Bob Dylan, Harrington is less feminine but if you look at the softer jaw, smoother cheeks and long lashes he's more feminine than Ledger. Women usually mean men who are bit pretty, not men who'd first be mistaken for women. Although some people are very into androgyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 06:25 AM
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Those look mostly like women to me except for one and at least one of those is a transwoman. Feminine men to me would normally mean guys with some feminine traits like longer lashes, softer features etc. not someone mistakable as a woman. See Kit Harrington, definitely male but with some softer facial features and something pretty about him. Lots of straight women find him attractive. For a woman with some masculine features but definitely female see Lisa Edelstein. There are straight guys who f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:59 AM
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I wouldn't blame some of the deadbedroom lot. I can understand the spouses who are suffering and have a restriction that makes it difficult/painful to have sex like difficulty maintaining an erection or post childbirth pain etc. And I think it would be cruel to cheat on them. However when your partner is sexually neglectful for no good reason it would be difficult not to be resentful. Although if you've gained 200 pounds or refuse to maintain hygiene I would put that back in the good reasons to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:29 AM
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Something doesn't have to be risky to be adventurous. I think it's more about exploration and new experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 07:49 PM
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The reward depends on your tastes. Hearing about something isn't the same as experiencing. I could just as easily say that passive entertainment is for people with no motivation and less willpower as there are fewer barriers to entry. It's personal taste. I'm a social person and I generally like doing social things. Sure I don't mind watching TV a few times a week, but I'd rather do something most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:35 PM
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We like new things. You can have an adventure in the country/culture as well as the people. The reward depends on what you value, we don't really enjoy passive hobbies that much, we do a lot of different sports, we make things and hike. I'd say we're very outdoors kind of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:12 PM
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You can think you have earned/deserve something without taking it. If you help someone move for free (expecting you'll be fed/watered) you have earned/deserve pizza/drinks, but I doubt you'd force someone to buy you a pizza. You might try to convince them, but you wouldn't force them. He's angry and upset, because he might have really liked her and he might be heartbroken, but he usually wouldn't rape her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:07 PM
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It's fun, because we're stable, I wouldn't like doing things to the same extent if there wasn't a safety net like travel insurance etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:01 PM
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My fiancé and I are financially stable (own a house, retirement etc.), but we still go on foreign holidays, we tried sky diving last week and try the local cuisine etc. You can be risky and adventurous, or you can be stable but still like trying new things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:58 PM
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Not really. You can be adventurous and stable. It's not that big an ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:29 PM
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The nice guy generally wants a pretty girl and it's not normally prince charming, just an attractive, stable guy who wants the same shit she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:18 PM
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It's why don't the men I want, want me? It's the same as a nice guy wanting a nice girl. The stable woman wanting a family wants a stable guy who wants a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:12 PM
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It's why don't the men I want, want me? It's the same as a nice guy wanting a nice girl. The stable woman wanting a family wants a stable guy who wants a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:12 PM
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I've been Emily. Nice guys I've met don't get that extreme, they do normal teen shit like inviting a friend over or to the cinema, not rewriting their whole life. Then they do the nice thing and downplay the effort. Without flirting it's hard to tell the difference between a friend who's attracted to you, like most teen boys around your age and a friend who's actually hung up on you. It's normal give and take the girl is accepting a lot of the time, she doesn't know he's keeping track, because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:09 PM
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I'm not arguing general tastes I'm saying that the nice guy has a fantasy requirement of 'Emily' and the woman wants a guy that meets certain conditions. Even if only a million men meet those conditions it's still more general/larger than 1. My argument is they are both equally entitled as they both believe they have earned the partner. The different treatment is because a lot of people have a 'nice guy' story and have been personally affected so it's more relatable. The WHATGMG is more abstract…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 11:41 AM
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The burden of entitlement is general she thinks she should have a man, why don't men want me. With a nice guy it's focused because he's normally nice to a specific girl, I should have you, why don't you want me. You can ignore the first, with the second you need to deal with it. I don't think it's experienced in the same way. The woman's fantasy man is more general, more like saying I wish more girls were in shape, it has a slightly offensive implication that you suck, but for the most part they…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 10:19 AM
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I view them as roughly equal. The nice guy thinks he has 'earned sex', the woman posting that article has generally stayed in shape, is stable, has developed a career, is willing to commit and wants kids, she's generally looking for her equal. She thinks that she has earned it by being stable etc. This is generally implicit in the articles 'Why can't I (a stable, reasonably attractive woman who wants to commit) find a stable, reasonably attractive guy who wants to commit?'. This is also an expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 09:27 AM
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The study is one woman self reporting, the research is lots of men and women self-reporting. Why is one woman more believable than lots of men and lots of women combined?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:20 AM
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Legal prostitutes seem to work in worse conditions than illegal ones. See Nevada where they can't drive and own a car or turn away customers and have limitations on where they can go. See Germany where brothels tell them which acts they must do, sometimes including unprotected oral and some brothels offering flat rate gangbangs. Romanian prostitutes have gone to Germany (often willingly) and then fled because it was worse than Romania. Regulation of prostitution makes it safer for the john and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:14 AM
1

How?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:08 AM
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Egg donation is expensive because it takes time, taking a range of medications and around ~5% chance of ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome per cycle and a minority are left with future pain. You can also fail the cycle and get minimum/no payout. The long-term effects are unknown. The vast majority of homeless/low-income people of either gender wouldn't qualify in terms of family history, no history of substance abuse, health, BMI, non-smoking and age. Education and appearance (including ethnicity…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:08 AM
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Egg donation is expensive because it takes time, taking a range of medications and around ~5% chance of ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome per cycle and a minority are left with future pain. You can also fail the cycle and get minimum/no payout. The long-term effects are unknown. The vast majority of homeless/low-income people of either gender wouldn't qualify in terms of family history, no history of substance abuse, health, BMI, non-smoking and age. Education and appearance (including ethnicity…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:08 AM
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I mean I guess I could be told to do 18 hour shifts in a legal brothel. Be forbidden to own and drive a car. Not be allowed out after 5. Be offered to men 66+ for a discount. Not be allowed to refuse customers and be offered at a flat rate for gangbangs. Also offer unprotected oral because that's just the way the brothel rolls. Yay?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 09:51 PM
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Maybe look at her jewellery and see what kind of tones she generally wears. I don't see a problem, but you might want to check the hardness of the metal against the engagement ring if there is one/if she's planning on wearing both together or one ring might damage the other. We've been talking about a magnesium-aluminium-manganese alloy since his grandpa passed away a while ago and he loved British classic cars. IMHO, it doesn't matter although I think something with meaning is always best. I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 03:37 PM
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So would Renley.... ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:04 PM
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TBH men don't always get custody as often as they should so the ones that do are more likely to be better off and not miss the payment so much. There are also fewer single Dads. But both genders pay child support less often than they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:17 PM
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Paying for children despite having taken precautions in our own sex lives is a win? Then maybe ask them their personal view instead of hearing what you want to. It takes two seconds to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:35 PM
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No one has fiscal autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 06:39 AM
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There are two steps to creating a baby, conception and incubation. He played his role. They both set the ball rolling and if neither of them do anything a baby will result. He knew when he consented to sex that he can't stop a pregnancy should one occur. I personally am not a fan of abortions (partly why I'm so careful with birth-control), but I can't justify forcing people to undergo unwanted pregnancies. Sex is consent to the possibility of pregnancy. Step two of making a baby, biological diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 11:24 PM
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If I lost my access to birth-control and abortion I'd stop having PIV like I did when I was having trouble with the pill (side effects) and came off it. I'd then campaign for better access and try and find a way around it. Would you be okay with some, possibly most, taxpayers opting out then, if it's only consenting taxpayers that are liable? The equivalent would be like the two of you putting a rock into a catapult with a time release which is facing the window and her being close enough to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 10:29 PM
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My personal opinion is that willing parents, unwilling parents (let it be known or were absent pre-birth) and then the taxpayer should be liable in that order. If custodial/willing parent(s) can cover everything that's great, if not then they should be topped up by the unwilling parent if any and then finally the taxpayer. I believe in capping child support once it hits the amount the child needs to live comfortably (not their own pony, but food on the table and shoes replaced before they wear o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:54 PM
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And the women who were able to handle the costs of a child at the time of conception but later run into problems? And a man who has been reckless and impregnated multiple women should he also be permanently sterilised?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:58 PM
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No, I've just been very careful with birth control (implant + diaphragm + spermicide + condom) and only had sex within a committed relationship (my boyfriend). Most people (of both genders) aren't as careful with birth control as they should be which causes the massive gap between 'typical use' and 'perfect use' in failure rates. My risk is lower than average because I've taken more precautions than average. I won't get pregnant until I want to. With most couples the childcare is provided betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:40 PM
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Do you think the majority of men or women could easily find an extra $21k in the budget? Childcare for single parents relies on either being better off than average, the taxpayer covering childcare, someone covering the parent's costs so they can stay home or a really really good support network. Often a combination. Someone needs to put in some money somewhere. I have been very careful not to have a child so far. As a taxpayer I don't see why it should be me when I've taken most reasonable prec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:13 PM
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The unlikely scenarios of someone losing a job or keeping a baby they can't afford? Things that happen pretty frequently. ....while these men are providing are they covering the cost of infant care (~$21k for 40 hours a week) or do they have a much cheaper SAHM? Could you cover that childcare, rent, transport, food and medical working 35 hours a week (assuming a 30min childcare-work travel time)?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:15 PM
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My point is that there isn't a biological equivalent of abortion for men. What if the woman is able to provide at the time but then gets sick/loses her job/hits other financial difficulties? Who is paying for the child then if not the taxpayer? I expect both men and women to either support a child rather than letting the cost fall on the taxpayer or not have one. Realistically some people won't abort children they can't support and some will run into difficulties down the road. I'm asking how (i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:13 PM
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Women's right to opt out is given by biology rather than society, there isn't a male equivalent as his role is done. When the woman opts out no one has to foot the bill, when the man does the taxpayer picks up the slack. Lots of things aren't fair, like women having periods, women living longer and men being physically stronger. Not everyone starts out in the same position. If you don't want the taxpayer to pay what do you think should happen if the woman is unable to support the child with a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:29 PM
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A baby starts to exist imo when it is capable of surviving without the use of the mother's organs. That's why I believe in abortions only pre-viability. Prior to that it could become a baby, but it isn't like partially cooked batter. You can have an undercooked cake, but if it's still liquid that isn't a cake. I would argue that carrying it to point of viability is part two and after that you now have a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:47 AM
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Would you disagree that if either no sperm meets the egg or the foetus isn't carried to term there is no baby? I am not arguing a cells-baby paradox. I am arguing that the baby is the end product of a process and the man providing sperm is his part in that process.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:33 AM
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No. Would you disagree that woman needs to carry a foetus to viability for a baby to be produced? And that her half isn't finished during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:27 AM
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You can have something created in two steps. The baby isn't created twice there are two steps in creating it and his finishes sooner. Opening your legs doesn't result in baby if you don't complete the step of carrying it to term.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:26 AM
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Would you disagree that a woman needs to carry a foetus for a baby to be produced? Would you disagree that a man needs to provide sperm for a child to be produced? If either of them choose not to play their part. No baby. Women do consent to sex, but their part in producing the child isn't done at that point the man's is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:14 AM
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1) To create a child the man has to have sex, to create a child woman has to have sex and carry it to viability. Abortion would be like the man quitting during foreplay as there is no baby, you haven't done your part and nothing's broke to need fixing. 2). Doing your part in creating a child is consent to parenthood, in the man's case ejaculate, in the woman's case conceiving and carrying the baby. If you do your biological part you are responsible. It's fair in that if you do your half of creat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:07 AM
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But the guy does his part in producing that child and like John knows he doesn't have a Plan B. Timmy knows the bus will get him to school on time and if it doesn't the teacher will see the bus is late and he won't be punished. What about someone who doesn't have homeowner's insurance. I'd say with the value of houses that might be more than comparable. If Timmy knows he has homeowner's insurance and John knows he doesn't. If they both do something reckless that might damage each of their own ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:58 AM
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Bodily autonomy, no one owes anyone the use of their organs. And I'm not arguing mother's right vs father's rights. I'm arguing the people who pay taxes and didn't sleep with a woman and produce a child having to pay for it for 18 YEARS and the man who chose to sleep with the woman and produce the child having to pay for it for 18 YEARS. Which is the current state of things. Why does the father's right not to pay for a child that he chose to risk producing when he could have said no trump my rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:29 AM
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I can agree with this to an extent. Poor people don't pay enough and you can't ask for more than they can give, but there should be a cap on it. It would have to vary by area tho and go up if the child has a condition. Half the food cost, half the clothing/dental/medical etc. I'm sure the government could get a good study/survey on costs by area. Then adjusted for time (if any) the kid spends with the non-custodial parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:20 AM
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So the rights of the father to not pay for a child they caused trump the rights of the taxpayer for no apparent reason as both could be termed slavery by this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:07 AM
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But you both knew a child was a possibility and chose to do something you knew might result in a child. Say there are two boys, Timmy and John. They both plan to walk to school, but Timmy knows he has a bus pass that will get him there quicker if he is running late, John knows before he starts playing that he can't catch the bus. They both decide to play a round of a video game and the game takes longer than they hoped, which they both knew was a possibility when they chose to play it. Timmy mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:04 AM
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But if child support is slavery then having to pay for people who aren't paying it is also slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:56 AM
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They both decide to do something that results in a child. It just takes longer for the woman's biological role to complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:26 PM
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This reminds me of that thread a while back where people were asked to pick between their SO and their SO with higher earnings. Then there was this thing where they said women dated for money. Saying no would be like handing back lottery winnings (not enough to drag people begging to your doorstep but a good amount), there were literally no strings attached. The question could have been replaced with 'Do you like having money?'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:25 PM
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Because the man chooses to do something that might result in a child by having sex. The woman makes her decision by accepting/rejecting abortion. Once there's a child someone needs to pay for it and the two people who decided to create it make more sense than random taxpayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:15 PM
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Pay tax that goes towards supporting other people's children or go to jail......so all taxpayers are slaves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:13 PM
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Because he completed his biological role by ejaculating, the woman who has an abortion doesn't complete her biological role of carrying the baby to viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:11 PM
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Probably because no one wants to invest all those resources in tracking spending like jointly used things e.g. the bit of rent that covers the second bedroom or how much pasta the mum/child ate or buying separate packs. Also people don't want to be challenged over costs, did the kid need that sketchbook etc. Something more vague that just excludes things like alcohol/cigarettes would be okay imo tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:09 PM
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How is the man's body enslaved?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:54 AM
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The man completed his biological part in making a child. The woman's biological part isn't finished until she's carried the baby to viability. The child needs to be paid for and the man knew a child was a possibility. He chose to have sex with that woman, random taxpayers didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:50 AM
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Most people....who aren't the company that he's criticised.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:45 AM
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Yes, but on an internal memo board visible to everyone isn't exactly locked up tight. An ordered assessment would normally be shown a few higher ups who would then decide whose eyes if anyone's it should be made visible to. He was critiquing something that gave some of his coworkers their jobs it was the sort of thing that tends to get leaked. I don't consider the critique to be a good one. There are some good points but he went in with a bias and the evidence shown is all one-sided there isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 07:56 AM
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It's not about whether it was intended to go public or not it did. When you pay consultants to critique your culture you keep that shit locked up tight not blared across the internet. There is a difference between a technical critique or bringing up something one on one with a higher up than making a detailed criticism on the company's culture, especially when a high proportion of his colleagues may have disagreed. It's like firing a new employee whom a more valuable employee is conflicting with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 09:59 PM
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He criticised his workplace in a way that ended up going massively public.... If I did the same my firing wouldn't be a surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:17 PM
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Not necessarily just like someone with blemishes (acne scars etc), but more likely than a guy with a full head of hair or someone with unblemished skin. I.e. it's evolutionary preference rather than a conscious decision for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 10:13 PM
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Because in ye olden times hairloss was likely to be as a result of sickness and ageing. Height, fitness, unwrinkled/unblemished skin have always been indicators of health, balding had negative connotations as well as the positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 08:38 PM
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'Gifts' that are expectations, like when you've been dating a virgin for 10 days and you do the whole rose petals on the bed thing and chocolate dipped strawberries for Valentine's day. She's said she's not ready yet and 15 isn't that late to be a virgin. Big gestures to someone you aren't dating particularly if the timing is weird. Things that take a big financial commitment after you've joined finances to some extent, I know someone whose bf planned a big surprise romantic holiday and she then…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:25 PM
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I'd say 20s, but not early 20s. A lot of people in their early-mid 20s are already dating who they'll marry and first marriages are least likely to end in divorce. The average age at first child is mid-20s. He might have more opportunities in his 30s, but I wouldn't call them better. This is assuming he's a fairly average guy who is mostly together, if he fucked up in his early 20s then correcting it and being an attractive relationship prospect in his 30s will probably net him a better match th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 11:37 PM
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Women are attracted to fun men, they want a guy who does shit and is fun to be around. Some women do like assholes, some feel special because he's nice to them, some think they can change him, some women talk shit about their boyfriend and never mention the good stuff, some guys see men who get women as assholes because of jealousy or a feeling of moral superiority etc. Some guys just get retconned. One of the worst things a guy can be is a boring passive doormat, it's hard to be that and an ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 08:57 AM
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