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Imagine a world where guys could force women into motherhood after sex? Not cool huh? I'd argue the male politicians who want to make/keep abortion illegal or nearly impossible to obtain are doing exactly this. It's happening already, so no, it's not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:06 PM
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I am in agreement with you, OP. I heard somewhere recently that white privilege is in fact just that - white people have privileges due to being white that other people do not have. It doesn't make all white people evil, it's just as simple as that, and it does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 08:20 PM
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Definitely, and can be the case for anyone, no matter their relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:47 PM
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objectively, I'd be getting more out of the relationships than them. I think this is more of a personal statement. You feel you'd get more out of a relationship with a specific type of person than you would with someone who's not you're type. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person who isn't your type won't flourish with someone else. I say this because I too am overly critical in relationships, but am happiest with the men who lean much more towards the blue pill because that's what makes m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:28 PM
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I truly can't believe that because of some legal contract you are happier with your life compared to just having a LTR Not disagreeing, since we don't know for sure, but the reverse makes more sense to me. Maybe it's not the act of signing a marriage license that made them happy, it's the fact they were happy that made them want to sign the license.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:15 PM
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Ah you are correct. I clearly posted before having my coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:00 PM
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Oh sorry, I thought we were all just speaking in broad generalizations and passing them off as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 02:26 PM
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Apparently TRP is waiting for everyone to drop to their knees and proclaim TRP has been right all along and TBP are all mindless. I sometimes wonder if there was a glitch in the system, and some of the RP tags became BP/PP, if they'd argue the points just because they saw a non-RP tag. edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 02:11 PM
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One of my assumptions about TBP is it would be very anti gender essentialism. I can't speak for all BPRers, but I would agree with this to an extent. To me, it's more of a "Do what you want but do no harm." For example, if a girl says she like pink and horses, awesome. If a guy likes pink and loves horses, also awesome! You do you, there's not really a hard line for TPB on that, which is why I believe BP has stayed away from claiming absolutes as far as masculinity. Whereas, I think if a guy pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 01:36 PM
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Can masculinity be attractive without being misogynistic? I think it can. I agree, and I think they get looped in together a lot and masculinity can be very successful when separated from misogyny. However, I think TBP isn't afraid to define masculinity per se, they just reject that it needs to include dominance, shaming or aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:43 PM
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If you start claiming that your experience represents that of all guys, we're going to have problems, because you don't get to speak for me or my experience. Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 12:37 PM
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I'm interested in seeing how different groups deal with the information. I'm a bit skeptical of this particular article but if the sources prove to be accurate, honestly I think it will be a good reality check for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 08:55 PM
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Do you really think men hand out nearly as many rude rejections as women? No, I don't think that, and I didn't say I did. In fact I'd even agree with that, and think that it's rude that women do that. It's not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 12:31 AM
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My thoughts are that sometimes people are assholes, no matter their gender. It sucks, and it happens. I believe what you're saying is there's no need for them to be rude about it, and I agree. People are more harsh behind the veil of the internet, but still, I wouldn't want someone to "pity date" me because they don't want to be cruel. If you're not into me, then fine, I'll move on. It should go both ways. If someone's not into you, move on, find someone who is. Yet sometimes people are assholes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 04:04 PM
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Why should men give up rights to make you feel safe ? If it's unfair, help us put it right. You gonna do that ? My guess is nope. You seem to be entirely unaware of our needs... Mainly that males are constantly being asked to allow their rights to be infringed to ensure women get equality of outcome, not opportunity. What rights? I get you feel you're losing rights, but you haven't pointed out a single one. Yet you still haven't outlined a single male benefit. Here you go. Some highlights: If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 06:16 PM
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But, because you aren't on the other side of that line it's never occurred to you that this is the case. The way I see it, the ground men are retaining on the other side is still more than what women had to begin with. Perhaps in a Western society, it doesn't seem that way, but globally, there are a so many rights women do not have. (That last one's my favorite). But perhaps these links only resonate with me, because these are all very real threats for women's safety, so I can empathize. These a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 03:33 PM
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This is one of the few times I agree with a RP on a majority of your points. As a followup question, you highlight how important it is to take responsibility for your own actions. If I see feminism as a way to push an agenda that benefits the things that have been lacking in my life (general respect, safety for my physical person, not being looked down on for not wanting kids, etc.), could RP still hold me accountable for the negative way feminism has impacted them, even though it's still largel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:23 PM
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"We own you - you owe us" narrative pushed at women who say no to militant Steinem feminism I don't feel this push at all. Could you provide examples? I find most feminism sites/bloggers to have their head on straight and push the idea of "You can do what you want. You should have the freedom to just be yourself." But maybe that's just the type of blog I choose to read because that's what makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 02:05 PM
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I think humans are creatures of the herd. My thoughts are that just because you don't understand someone's affinity for something, that doesn't make it inherently wrong. Flip the script - many men are really into sports and will follow it almost mindlessly. There's nothing wrong with that, however many women roll their eyes at it. Doesn't make the guys wrong, and it doesn't mean all men must love sports because they're men, just like a woman liking jewelry isn't wrong and doesn't mean all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/15 12:40 AM
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Assuming this is an honest question: Most think they want them because they're told to. Some want them less because it's a "trinket" and more because it's tradition (engagement rights, anyway). Some are genuinely interested in jewelry and accessories. And then there's some who actually don't like jewelry at all, people just assume they do because they lump all women together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 07:48 PM
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So what you're saying is you'd fuck a car?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 06:23 PM
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For your future lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/15 06:20 PM
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The guys who don't get laid a lot, or at all, typically don't slut-shame. Not just because it would be completely against their best interest to do so(why alienate the women who are most likely to have sex with them, and the least likely to care about their lack of experience) I feel like this is a very logical thought, and I want it to be the case all the time, but a lot of times this guys are too short sighted to recognize it or acknowledge it. Anger bubbles up quickly in a lot of people and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 10:02 PM
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If women cheat or commit adultery, there is almost no consequence for it either. In fact, this is seen as a form of female empowermen. What world are you living in? I thought the same. This is spoken like a person who is willfully ignorant of reality to fit his argument. Maybe some individuals feel this way, but in other cultures, she's killed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/15 07:43 PM
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I certainly agree with what you outlined in both cases, I think you have it correct. I don't consider my SO an exception. I actually consider him more like the "long haul" guy you described because he's very nurturing and caring, almost to a fault, - very beta in that sense - but I think other women would have overlooked that in search of a more immediate gratification (lucky for me!) which is why I don't consider our relationship very typical either. Because of his caring personality, I'd never…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 04:41 PM
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First, thank you. To answer your question: Would you say that your relationship is fairly typical of most people's experience though? I absolutely would not. I'm very selective about who I date, and don't make compromises that go against the values I've set up for myself. I promised not to date for the sake of dating. Many women get into relationships out of fear of being alone, leading to the divorce/cheating/aggression issues, and I never let myself be one of them. To speak candidly, I think I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:18 PM
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I said "All girls only like douchebags" too, I said "fucking sluts" too. So it's easier for me to overlook that stuff since I've never been at the butt-end of it. I'm grateful you realize this. I want to fast-forward life for the guys still in that anger phase so they can get over it faster. I guess it's sort of like the butterfly coming out the of cocoon - they need to struggle a bit in order to gain the necessary insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 03:08 PM
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The guy who's in for the long haul is likely a better bet overall, although that means having to take the risk of being with him for years and even decades before the benefits that he can provide pay off For me, the benefits are immediate considering I like being with him. :) He doesn't play games, I feel secure, and he makes me laugh. Plus he's hot. In the words of Michael Scott- win/win...win.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/15 02:58 PM
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Same, but I'd stop dating, get a kick ass dog, and hop on the cock carousel. If no one wants to LTR me, why not have some fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:49 PM
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While I don't agree with fat acceptance (for health reasons - take care of yourself!) I do agree with body acceptance, which to me, is the core point of the movement. You don't need to look like a model to be considered healthy. they sure seem to go out of their way to make themselves unattractive to men Here's the thing: Women do not exist solely to please men. Simple as that. If you don't find that body type attractive, what the fuck should she care? What the fuck should you care? Move on you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 08:39 PM
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I don't think these two comparisons are necessarily equal, and therefore can't really be compared. However, I think the issue isn't the men who want a woman with a low partner count, it's how some of them treat women with a high partner count. If you want a woman with a low partner count, go for it, but don't mock a woman for not living the way you want her to ("Slut" "whore" "on the cock carousel" "unable to bond"). It's the same for woman wanting to date taller men. Wanting a taller guy is gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/15 02:49 PM
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men and women are equally incapable of empathising with the unique tribulations that only men and only women face I agree with this completely. When I feel empathetic, it tends to be around issues I have faced before, otherwise I have a hard time wrapping my mind around it. I can understand, but may not fully empathize, and I think it's the same for men and women. All that feminist wailing about being ogled, objectified, catcalled, male gaze I simply cannot empathise with since I don't react the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 04:59 PM
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I don't think a RP guy would be interested in me, TBH. I'm very open and honest about my beliefs, which include being a feminist, and while I do feel I'm fairly feminine, I'm certainly not a RPW. What attracts me to a guy tends to be the opposite of RP beliefs, so I don't see a RP guy getting too far with me date-wise, even if I didn't know about the sub. If I did find out a guy I was dating was on TRP, I'd hear him out for sure, but it would factor big time into if I wanted to see him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:33 AM
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I don't personally think it's bad, and am especially not as up-in-arms about it as TRP, but I can understand that there are injustices in court rulings that tend to shift towards the mothers. Other than that, I can't speak to it because I don't have personal experience. I just try to be more open-minded about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:21 PM
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Though I'm not a big fan of TRP, I do agree with some of their beliefs. It made me more aware of men who blame their problems on others instead of turning inward and bettering themselves. But that's about as far as my appreciation goes. If anything, the light they shed on injustices towards men (which are mostly two - paying child support and being falsely accused of rape) honestly made me become a better feminist. To me it's about equality, so I am more aware of situations that harm men, as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 09:35 PM
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I don't think TRP is wrong per se. I think on the surface they have good points. BUT. I'd say this to you - Think about the type of woman you want to attract. Not just bang, but a woman that really gets you going on all levels: mentally, physically, emotionally. Relationship level woman (if TRP believed in that). If you parroted all the things you read on TRP to her and told her you honestly believe all of it (the plates, the hamstering, the fat/body shaming, "sluts", etc.) would she walk away? …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/15 07:08 PM
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Same here. As a 5'10" female, I'm conscience about height both for my comfort and for theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 10:04 PM
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I laughed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 10:02 PM
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Interesting. And here I thought I was just logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:57 PM
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I do! What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:47 PM
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Sounds like I'm in the minority here statistically, but I just pass on guys who don't have at least one photo where they're smiling. I've always liked the happy/laughing guy over the brooding type. As for height, that doesn't surprise me, but I think it's a little too definitive to say "height matters only to women." Everyone has attributes they're just not attracted to, and they're welcome to have that. I wouldn't want to date a guy who wasn't okay with my height, so it's just better to be hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:35 PM
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the toxic angry men who have really gotten burned by women I think this is the toughest hurdle for me in understanding TRP comments. It's hard to decipher who is genuinely supporting their beliefs from a place of understanding, versus someone who is only projecting hurt from past relationships and painting other women with the same broad brush because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:22 PM
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More like I support my freedom to walk away from their speech
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:47 AM
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I'm okay with mods choosing what they will and will not allow on their sub. I happen to be a fan of the words misogyny and misandry when used properly, but all subs have the right to choose what they allow for sake of the conversation. I do, however, wish they gave out giant neon signs to men that honestly believe that women can and should be allowed to be called cum-dumpsters so I can stay far away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 03:11 AM
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FWIW, Charlie Sheen is creepy as FUCK
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:21 PM
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I think it depends on the woman and how driven she is. If she wanted to be a high powered politician as well, then I'm sure a goal of become president would make a man more attractive to her. For me personally, it's more like a bell curve. Very little drive begets very little interest, while drive in balance is very attractive, then finally, too "mono-focused" on his career is less attractive again. (For the record, I'll still totally respect the the hell out of a "mono-focused" guy professional…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 02:11 PM
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Answering your bonus question from the female perspective:I feel that a guy without progressional ambition is sexually unattractive in the long-term. What constitutes as professional ambition for me can be a wide array of things, but basically as long as you have a the drive to keep working and not just settle, then I'm attracted to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 02:00 AM
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Feel free to switch out the words then, I still feel the same way. I was just electing to not use as inflammatory a term.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 02:45 AM
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The reason why its a bad idea to marry a whore is the same reason why its a bad idea to hire a former alcoholic to work at bevmo. FWIW, I think it's only a bad idea if you don't want a woman with a past. If a man wants a woman who's sexually experienced and open-minded, there's not really a problem (Think free love). To him, she's not a "whore." If you want a sexually inexperienced woman, then by all means pursue one, but just because not all women match your ideals doesn't make it inherently wr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 07:17 PM
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You're right. All people should be cautious, to do otherwise is foolish. But I still can't get behind a statement that describes men as being no more intelligent than a firecracker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 06:13 PM
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I understand the logic, but this is the thinking I'm not sure I'll ever get behind. I've heard people say similar things like "Put yourself in a lion cage, and if the lion eats you, it's your own damn fault." Sure, I get the analogy, but you're basically saying men are no smarter than - in your example - a lifeless firecracker. In my mind, you can't use this argument without insinuating men are fully mindless and can't think for themselves, which is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:24 PM
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I agree with this on just about everything, but wanted to add one aspect that people tend to forget, and that's the psychological aspect. Continuing on the Nikon analogy, the thief who steals your camera probably has no relation to you. Presumably, you weren't making (or avoiding) eye contact with the thief while he did it, and he wasn't anyone you knew personally and possibly trusted. You wouldn't have seen the fear/malice/confusion/lust in his eyes, or felt betrayed when he was done. While I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:17 PM
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I second this. I'd be more interested in how he treated the women as opposed to what he did/how frequently. Honestly, I'd just have a lot of questions out of curiosity - where he hired them from, how much it costs, what he thought about it. I appreciate honesty, sometimes too much, so full disclosure in return is welcomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:21 PM
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Half the responses in this thread have chastised a woman for wearing make up, the other half have said women aren't attractive without make up. Is there a middle ground?
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 01:36 AM
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That's the point. I can't speak for this woman, but for me, if it's something in my past that isn't a big deal to me, and he never asks, it doesn't feel like a secret. To me, it's like if someone said "You had ice cream cake on your 12th birthday?! I'm outraged, I HATE ice cream cake! You told me you're not a fan of ice cream!" But then again, no one hates ice cream.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 01:03 AM
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It sounds more like she's fighting him paying off her student loans to me.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 01:00 AM
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For the record, she's not suing him. She's challenging that he's offering to pay off her student loans because she doesn't want him to.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 12:31 AM
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Speaking from her perspective - because it doesn't matter anymore. I have, admittedly, not been shy about discussing my history because of the outcomes above, but it basically comes down to: it doesn't matter to us anymore. Sure you can't forget your dating past, but our current SO matters more to us, so the past just gets pushed aside. It'd be like having an in-depth conversation with your SO about an your high school girlfriend. If they're not part of your life anymore, why bring it up?
/r/TheRedPill24/03/15 12:26 AM
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Your statement implies I should give up and start believing all men are jerks, then. I refuse to believe all men are jerks. Sorry.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 09:20 PM
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Understandable. Sorry you went through that! The climb back up always seems to be where you learn the most about yourself, since you have the time and devotion to focus more on yourself - best of luck!
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 09:19 PM
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Just know that the girls who think that aren't even worth your reply. There are many women (myself included) who don't think that. The problem is, men hear a woman say that an assume all women think that. Women may joke about it, but we don't really believe it, otherwise women would all stop dating completely.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 02:35 PM
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I agree, riding_stoned. A secure man knows his worth coming into the relationship, regardless of if the woman is a virgin or not. If she's a smart, self-confident woman (which I assume most RP men want) then chances are, she's had sex, and she still knows her worth. If a woman's virginity is what makes a relationship worth while to a man, then he needs to do more work on himself.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/15 02:26 PM
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I definitely second (or, like fourth, at this point) this. Mental illness is not something you can just manipulate with your attitude. Just trying to "suck it up" is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound. While I'm all for being self-reliant, the stigma that seeking professional/medical help for a mental illness is "weak" is very damaging.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/15 05:33 PM
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Pro tip from a female: A quick way of spotting the type of girl mentioned here? Look for the girl who says "I don't have a lot of female friends" or "Girls never really like me." RUN. Any self assured, smart, educated woman who has her shit together knows how to be friends with other confident women. Women who need to cling to a guy drive those smart women away and play the "I don't know why they don't like me!" card.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/15 05:07 PM
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Just let it be. Unless she specifically asks you for help, it's not your problem.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 02:07 AM
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/u/TripleOGeg is right - it's an ugly circle - Women are coerced into redacting their rape claim because people like the OP keep perpetuating the idea that women are like the boy who cried wolf. Authorities question her integrity then the woman gets scared, intimidated, or feels uncertain, she feels like she'll have no case if she goes to court, she has no evidence, and she redacts the charge. Then it happens over and over and over again.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/14 04:40 AM
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is that rhetorical? I wasn't around, so I would not know. Does it make it any more okay because it's been going on for so long?
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/14 03:11 AM
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I think you misread, because I also don't think I explained myself clearly. My intention wasn't to say women aren't physically smaller/weaker than men. They are, I agree. Basically, the men who think "I am man, you are woman, have sex with me" without being a RP man frustrate me. Sex doesn't fall into your lap when you bend over backwards for a woman just because she's a female. That's what I meant by men thinking women are the weaker sex, thinking they should just "get women" by being male, but…
/r/TheRedPill11/03/14 02:56 AM
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I wish you were around more often to tell this to men who think women are the weaker sex "just because they're women." I don't think they realize the ignorance of their words. You described White-Knightism and its issues very well.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 11:19 PM
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Who cares? Let her do what she wants. If you're not into her, don't message her, move on. Stop lingering on those things, she's probably out having fun and you're analyzing a profile you're not interested in.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 03:03 AM
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Yes jealously can play a part, but jealousy isn't the main reason, because all women get jealous at some point, and all men do too. The feminist perspective, from educated, non-man-hating feminists (Yes, we exist) is that we don't like to see women as soulless bodies used to sell things. Seeing women treated as objects all over billboards/magazines/commercials etc. causes men to treat all women that way - And why shouldn't they feel that way when they're bombarded with those images? It's not men…
/r/RedPillWomen04/03/14 02:56 AM
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why doesnt the same logic apply when women regularly pass over men who are lower on the social totem pole. That's not the same argument. This isn't about men dating women despite their social standings, it's about men dating women based on looks and sexuality. The reverse would be women dating men who are "pretty but dumb" and that happens all the time, but those women are usually "pretty but dumb" too. Edit: formatting
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 01:25 AM
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While I agree this woman sounds bitter, your response is a bit overdramatic. First of all, it's archaic to think women can't do a single thing for themselves. They've learned that by dumb men tripping over themselves to help a woman out in hopes she'll validate him in some way. Let women stand on their own and they'll be fine. It's once we start teaching them that a man's validation is their main goal in life that they start getting bitter like this woman.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/14 01:19 AM
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For the most part, I see where this article is coming from, but to me it sounds a little extreme. It worries me that young women who might be iffy about kids will have kids out of fear of this "clock" and it will only come to make them regret their decision. It's not unheard of that women think they need to have kids by a certain age, only to find they weren't ready and weren't prepared. It can cause resentment toward the child who's done nothing wrong, and depression among many other things. Wh…
/r/RedPillWomen18/02/14 01:17 AM
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I think good for her! If her friends don't like it, she needs new, more supportive friends. The "sisterhood" (that sounds dumb, and I don't like using that phrase) should be about uplifting our friends, not holding them back. If she was dressing to steal their husbands, then sure, cut her out, but she's doing it for herself. More power to her.
/r/RedPillWomen24/01/14 06:51 PM
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Honest question - What type of women do you discuss this with? I think it was pretty well known these books became popular as "mommy porn." A majority of the fans were middle aged women, usually mothers, who were getting bored and whose husbands came home to the same routine sex. It seems to me the overlap between sexually active feminists and the readers of mommy porn books don't over lap too much. Do confused women exist? Sure, but I doubt many women who discuss the above will be fans of Twili…
/r/TheRedPill24/01/14 06:33 PM
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One thing that stands out to me is that, though my dad wasn't the best communicator, he was definitely a teacher. I have a lot of memories of him drawing diagrams (he was an engineer, I guess it was a habit) to better illustrate his information, whether it was math, science, or just something he'd seen that he wanted to tell me about. Don't be "too busy" to teach her something new. Another big point is that though I was his only daughter, I was never "just a girl." I was expected to mow the lawn…
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 09:21 PM
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This is a really great idea. Thank you for sharing, I'd like to implement this in my life as I could relate to everything you said. It's refreshing to hear from people who want to grow in their relationship instead of struggling to control it.
/r/RedPillWomen23/01/14 05:26 PM
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