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Reverse GendersYabuSama2k/r/MensRights11/11/14 01:38 AM
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Anti-MRAYabuSama2k/r/MensRights06/01/15 02:27 AM
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False AccusationYabuSama2k/r/MensRights02/06/15 08:18 PM
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Social IssuesYabuSama2k/r/MensRights09/08/15 09:53 PM
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QuestionYabuSama2k/r/MensRights09/11/14 10:43 PM
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Raising AwarenessYabuSama2k/r/MensRights29/12/14 08:10 AM
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AnalysisYabuSama2k/r/MensRights07/01/15 10:00 AM
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Raising AwarenessYabuSama2k/r/MensRights26/01/15 12:24 PM
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CMVYabuSama2k/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:37 AM
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Raising AwarenessYabuSama2k/r/MensRights27/10/14 08:12 PM
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AnalysisYabuSama2k/r/MensRights26/03/15 04:07 AM
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False AccusationYabuSama2k/r/MensRights17/04/16 07:11 AM
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AnalysisYabuSama2k/r/MensRights13/12/14 05:13 AM
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YabuSama2k/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 02:58 AM
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re: FeminismYabuSama2k/r/MensRights06/11/14 01:08 AM
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Action Op.YabuSama2k/r/MensRights29/12/14 06:32 AM
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tetrahydrocannibinol is a tetracyclic alcohol like oestrogen, reduces male sexual desire and aggression, and overuse can cause man-boobs (gynecomastia). Source?
/r/MensRights07/02/22 03:03 AM
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I copied and pasted the actual research and conclusions. The generalizations weren't justified by the research linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:42 AM
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I won’t disagree that psych isn’t a rigorous science, but we have to start somewhere other than “nah, I disagree”. Just don't fly the generalizations in the first place. Make claims which are justifiable with the research that is there. A meta study like that one with multiple, overlapping conclusions, all negative, starts to look like some compelling evidence. Or it starts to look like one researcher's inkblot test. Often that data isn't homogeneous enough to group effectively, and more often t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:14 AM
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Especially when we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:00 AM
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You shouldn't express the results of psych experiments as generalizations. A lot of psych research doesn't hold up like hard sciences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:15 AM
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Except that never actually pans out. Older people love pissing trillions of dollars into needless wars and locking people up over dogmatic nonsense. None of that is conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:36 PM
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It’s why men can become obsessed with women they’ve never met. Women certainly do this too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:30 PM
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Just look at the three links you posted. Those are the links I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:53 AM
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what, this was acceptable for you to ask wasnt it? I think it's acceptable to expect that someone who posts links actually read them at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 03:17 AM
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Just actually read your own links.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:20 AM
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because women are more elementally grounded This is starting to sound like Dungeons and Dragons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:59 AM
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This is all about a specific person, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:56 AM
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Did you know you are extremely intelligent? Lmfao a MESA individual for sure Yea those are some smart tables!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:45 AM
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how it’s basically moot since only “1%” of men fit this category Stop trying to save what she said by pulling stats out of your stinky crevices.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:40 AM
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masturbating and watching pornography fervently has a negative effect on the mind According to a bunch of goofy conservative Christians...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:36 AM
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I've never been personally interested in dating younger women, but her logic was so goofy and tortured that it had to be criticized.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:26 AM
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I literally need to read medical research on the daily but Then you should know better than to make goofy generalizations based upon crappy, unreplicated, survey-driven psych research and poorly related data. For example, your third link only indicates that partners who were more than 16 years apart were more likely murdered the other than other Chicago couples. That doesn't actually support your goofball generalization about "higher DV rates" corresponding to age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:21 AM
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Did I suggest anything of the sort? You seem to be arguing with your own crazy projections.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:14 AM
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And the only option once you get there! I'll go for it myself when the time is right, but I like to remind the young'ns that they should think long term on all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:01 PM
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I think most men could fuck regularly well into their 60's at least if they don't drink, don't smoke, exercise, eat well, etc throughout their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:28 PM
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It's really hard to get me-too'd when you have never had sex without paying for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:17 PM
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Higher dv rates don't prove higher dv rates. No, what you linked didn't actually prove any higher dv rates at all. You just don't have enough of a background in science to understand that kind of research.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:54 PM
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That's absurd. The point is that accepting this behavior from your community (as a way of showing your own superiority to men) actually makes the problem worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:52 PM
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the majority of friends call each other out regarding any toxic behaviour "He's just not that into you".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:15 PM
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None of those justified your claims. You just didn't understand what you were reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:49 PM
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Are you under the impression that states don't charge minorities with sex crimes? This keeps happening because so many people are willing to stroke themselves off with feelings of superiority rather than actually doing something. Just saying "men are dogs" is a way of using a horrible situation like that to titillate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:40 PM
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It’s funny that you had to point out an extremely attractive celebrity. Point being that what you said was full of it. Yes, most older men don't even take care of themselves and aren't rich, but million of young women would cut each others throats to be picked by the right older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:38 PM
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Point being that you were full of beans on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:36 PM
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And yet, a society must collectively decide that below some age, a person is too young to make certain decisions. 18 has worked for a long time. I was able to make these decisions at 18 and I believe strongly that women are generally equal in mental capacity as men. You can’t get around it, otherwise you have crazy people trying marry 10 yr olds. That's just an absurd red-herring. No one is suggesting anything of the sort. 18 isn’t magic Nor is 25 or 30. No one claimed it to be. Some rare 17 yr …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:07 AM
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Feel free to find any other sorce that says the opposite, hint: they don't exist. You are really dropping the ball on the basics of science here. You linked a study that in no way justified your grandiose generalization. It isn't on someone else to find some opposite data. Your claim just remains unsubstantiated. And did you make any effort to see if this data had been replicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:02 AM
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i literally experienced an old man hitting on me when i was 12 when i stepped away from my uncle to grab something at the local grocery store. I can tell you that I would be filing police reports, talking to the owner of the grocery store, calling the news, etc if that happened to my daughter at that age even if it were 2000. The response still says a lot more about your community, family and social circle than about men generally. who’s truly locking men up for hitting on kids? My state takes "…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:24 PM
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You can have the ability to make your own personal life choices while still being immature. The point is that the choice was mine to make and yours to respect. How do you like people imposing their will on the choices you make about your own sex life? I made several life choices during that time that I don't regret. So you didn't need some crazy nun to swoop in and keep you from making your own choices? But looking back on it, I wasn't as mature as I am now. I can say the same of many points in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:19 PM
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So why all the hysteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:16 PM
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Because y'all know your average 30-40-year-old men can't pull younger women. Who said anything that would imply otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:16 PM
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18 yr old guys generally will stick their dick everywhere That's just a stupid myth. Yes, 18 year olds are horny. No, that does not make them children who are unable to make choices about their sex lives. but this doesn’t mean they’ll make good choices. No age does, but that is irrelevant. They have the right to choose and its not our place to infantilize them. This isn’t just to protect girls. Good thing we are talking about women and men. If my boyfriend hadn’t been able to marry a highly mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:12 PM
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This is just not even close to true for most modern 18 yr olds. As an 18 year old man, I was fully capable of deciding where I wanted to put my dick. I'm one of those crazy old-fashioned people who think that women are equals and adults, but I know that isn't the zeitgeist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:38 PM

Now how much of the underlying data survived replication?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:08 PM
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Doing what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:05 PM
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Looks like a goofy activist blog made by college students. As I said, people in the moral harpy cultures are just overusing the term to get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:04 PM
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Who is supposedly unable to decide for themselves who they want to bang? What is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:03 PM
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I don't see women as stupid children. You aren't respecting them as adults. That is why I actually listen to what they say here in PPD and they very consistently say they are not attracted to older men Great. Then the ones that aren't attracted to older men can choose not to date them, because they are adults, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:59 PM
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9/11
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:58 PM
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It is also used for children yes. No, it's not "also used" for children. That's what it means. There is no rational way to use it for adults. It doesn't make any sense. People in the moral harpy cultures are just overusing the term to get attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:57 PM
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Go look up some threads here about it, its Very common and most women experience it. Lots of times its a stranger. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm saying that it is a reflection of their social and family circle far more than a reflection of men. I grew up in the burbs back in the 70/80's. Riding my bike around the block with my 11 year old friends old guys would creep up on us in their cars. And a shocking number of parents in the same era knew their kids were being raped by priest and ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:55 PM
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So don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:12 PM
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That's what I'm saying. You are taking impressions that you pulled out of your ass and attributing them to research that neither justifies them nor claims to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:11 PM
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I don’t know many women in that general age range who would say “Jason Momoa” when asked which celebrity she finds hottest. That's a hell of a goal-post shift. The point is that lots and lots of young women find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:09 PM
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And how did they define "problematic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 09:07 PM
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If that really is the case, it says a whole lot more about your social and family circle than it says about men generally. If an adult accosted my daughter at 11, they would have caught a felony. She had a phone and I taught her how to handle a situation like this, how to call 911, give accurate descriptions, quote the crime properly, ask for a supervisor if need be, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:59 PM
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What specific claim do you think this research justifies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:58 PM
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Just what you were looking for in a man. Once again, I was able to decide who I wanted to have sex with at 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:56 PM
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It depends who is making the judgements. As an 18 year old man, I was certainly capable of deciding where I wanted to put my dick. I think that women are equally intelligent as men, so I would assume that young adult women are capable of the same. Lots of people here apparently see women as mental children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:55 PM
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It is not an oppressed/ oppressor vibe. I mean...there's definitely a victim in the story and it ain't the man. Women in PPD have very frequently said they do not for the most part find older men attractive. Be that as it may, the criticism isn't simply about a difference in preference. Right in this post we see people using terms like "grooming". they disagree about whether the 18 year old is attracted to grandpa. Again, right in this post we see a lot of comments which include people up to 23.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:51 PM
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I'm almost 26 and the thought of any kind of personal relationship with someone under the age of 23. I can't imagine why someone would want to. Could it be that you are projecting your own immaturity onto others? I certainly could make choices about my own personal life in my late teenage years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:46 PM
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But there is a long history in sociology, psychology, professors who boink students, and sex slavery saying that... I don't think I've ever seen a statistic that was more obviously pulled out of someone's ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:42 PM
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Jumping in here, but you aren't making any sense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:41 PM
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If a middle aged or older guy wants to date young adult women who are maybe 23-30 and can pull them, cool, whatever, According to a lot of people here, those women are still too childish at that age to make their own choices in their sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:40 PM
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My emotional maturity is wildly different at 24 than it was at 18 Does that mean that another 18 year old couldn't be mature enough to make their own choices in their sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:38 PM
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When I was 19 I dated a 25 year. He had a lot of red flags and I didn’t realize because it was my first relationship and i just thought it was normal. Is it possible that this had a whole lot more to do with your own culture and what you were looking for in a man and less to do with any innate childishness at 19? I was able to make adult decisions at 19. Is that just because I am a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:37 PM
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That looks like exactly the kind of crappy, survey-driven psych research that doesn't justify assertions, shouldn't be taken seriously and just serves as an ink-blot tests for ideologues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:36 PM
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We spend our teenage years dripping wet for older men Are you under the impression that 18 year old women find Jason Momoa repulsive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:30 PM
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No what women here consistently say is THEY are generally not attracted to older men. No, it's definitely not an issue of difference in taste. The picture painted is definitely one of oppressor and oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:29 PM
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Grooming is grooming regardless of age. Grooming refers specifically to manipulating a child for later abuse or exploitation. You groom something as it grows. Not every form of manipulation is "grooming". A younger person can't "groom" an older person. That's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:26 PM
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Everyone is just cautious because we’ve seen the shit and we’ve seen it go bad. I think a lot of people haven't actually seen this and are just rubbing themselves off to the idea of being on the winning side of a moral panic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:22 PM
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You're literally buying pop-neuroscience and passing it off as undisputed fact You are going to want to steer clear of r/science...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:19 PM
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I CONSTANTLY observe toxic masculinity regularly, whether is be online or real life anecdotes. That's like saying you CONSTANTLY observe the work of the Devil. It means literally whatever you want it to mean. Women and men SHOULD be respected and loved equally in society Who is saying otherwise? and the patriarchy should be discontinued. What does that even mean and how did you decide to give it a gendered name?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:32 PM
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Normal adults have the ability to read the basic responses of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:24 PM
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Freezing is real. Yes, for people who have a mental illness like a severe social anxiety. If you have a tendency to freeze up, you need to avoid drinking/hookup scenarios and let potential partners know that because there are added dangers for them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:22 PM
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if women are starting to realistically expect the explicit consent doctrine, I can only hypothesize that it may due to increased incidence of run ins with men who actually are so clueless that they literally NEED to ask out loud but they don’t Or it is a moral panic in the media and the people who are worked up about it actually have very little social experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:19 PM
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You're doing it waaaaay wrong if you need someone to ask consent at every step.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:18 PM
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There are still a lot of men (or people in general) who are really really really bad at reading situations. I don't think its reasonable to ask the rest of the world to walk around on eggshells over this. By and large adults handle this all fine. sometimes you feel like you can't speak up for yourself and just freeze because you're afraid of not being friendly. This does not describe everyone and if you have a history of freezing and not being able to assert basic boundaries, you need to seek co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:15 PM
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An 18, 19, or 20-year-old in 2022 is not the same as an 18, 19, or 20-year-old in the 1960s through 90s or even the early 2000s. With things like the cost of living, education cost, and housing prices constantly rising while wages and career opportunities remain low and stagnant the 18-20-year-olds of today aren't nearly equipped with the tools 18-20-year-olds had at their expense back in the day that allowed them to exist as adults. So the generation before them fucked them over economically, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:07 PM
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I heard many a story in college about girls sneaking out of the dude's dorm after a hookup and just avoiding him after. I think some of that is going to be just the social ineptitude which is typical of people away from their parents house for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:26 PM
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No. If you are rich and you make a child, then you just made a rich child. Cry me a fuckin river.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 05:03 PM
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I suspect this is all referenced from scenes in 80's movies. The reality of locker rooms is that old naked guys conversate about mundane subject matter as if they don't realize that they are naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:03 PM
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Deflecty. You sound 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:57 PM
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Seems like you are avoiding my question by using ad hominems. You made a claim, then presented something that wasn't even close to justifying it. You aren't a victim here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:17 PM
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Yea you just didn't have a grasp of the science if you think any of that justifies your goofy generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:05 PM
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Do you have evidence to the contrary of my assertion? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:02 PM
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Sounds like plain old confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:56 PM
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aligns with mine and others experiences. So something strummed your bias and you started regurgitating it as fact? Is research always crappy when you don’t like it? Were you privileged enough to have the 9th grade science education which would teach you what kinds of data do and don't justify generalizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 05:29 PM
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because men typically overrate themselves. Are you making grandiose generalizations based on crappy psychological research?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:16 PM
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This whole topic seems to be giving a lot of trouble to PPD guys lately, so here is Ally Wong explaining this exact phenomenon: https://youtu.be/GRM8BADya8w?t=60
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 02:43 PM
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But there are entire communities of men dedicated to solving the death grip problems. There are huge communities dedicated to pleasing imaginary supernatural beings. This is not how science works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:33 PM
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Idk I think the “death grip” is a real problem that a non-insignificant number of men I have met and talked to have struggled with. Anecdotes aren't a whole lot of value in the first place, and it could very well be all in their head. What we can say is that none of this is the product of any kind of legitimate scientific or medical research.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:50 PM
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Bold of you to assume I like any abrahamic religion lol. Lots of people get fooled by those blogs. They aren't exactly upfront about it. And I’m not Google, just look it up That's what will show you that this is goofy religious stuff. or look at other men’s personal testimonies Anecdotes can be fun, but it ain't a legitimate basis for a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:10 AM
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Sex addiction is definitely a real thing, but I don't see any evidence to suggest that porn or masturbation is dangerous to healthy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:17 AM
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I can flip my statement and say very few 45-year-olds look good enough that the average 18-year-old will want them. The same could be said of a men much younger. The ones who are generally were hot in their 20s and 30s. Sure, but they exist and you wouldn't need to be a superstar. I would imagine without the social repercussions more younger women would be willing to reach up in age for a more desirable man, even if they wouldn't give the time of day to 90% of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 02:14 AM
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Just be honest about when your views are based in science and when they are based in what you heard on a Christian blog.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 01:59 AM
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Porn often has BDSM undertones and encourages men to treat their partners roughly in bed without it being pre discussed. Sounds like a myth you just wrote in your head. Trying the “moves” they’ve also seen in porn leave women unsatisfied and also sometimes in pain. Lots of women are into rough sex. It's very common. Once again, this is about a compatibility issue among adults and not the devil's DVDs. . And porn addiction is real, According to weird Christian blogs like NoFap, but not any legiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:49 PM
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With a death grip of his, This is also unscientific crap from the anti-masturbation cults.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:46 PM
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1) can lead to erectile dysfunction, and low libido This isn't actually supported by science. NoFap is a blog run by crazy Christians.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:43 PM
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Frankly from what I understand it has as much to do with excessive & forceful masturbation as it does with porn itself. At least that's what Dan Savage insists, but there isn't any legit science to back up any of it. Most of the anti-masturbation stuff still comes from conservative Christians.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:42 PM
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You obviously don't get what I'm saying. I get it, but it's not coherent or relevant to what I was saying. I'm saying that 20 year old women don't put up with assault and batter at first. What does this have to do with a 20 year old pretending not to understand the concept of assault and battery being illegal? This kind of thi g doesn't happen to women often until they get pregnant and trap. That wouldn't stop them from understanding that assault and battery is illegal and an indication of an un…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:37 PM
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Lmao at your characterization of abusive relationships. You see this shit all the time on the relationships thread. The complaints don't start when someone commits a crime... it always starts with the smaller things. Sounds irrelevant to what I was saying. Many, many 20 year olds have ignored red flags just to eventually realize they have to leave once things escalate to near the point you're talking about. But if they pretended not to know that it was an unhealthy relationship, then they are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:26 PM
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So you can 'assume' that a 20 year old is a relationship addict and a drama addict, but not jsut a tad naive? In many cases, absolutely. 20 year olds are adults and not children. When an adult acts like they can't tell if they are in a bad relationship but describes their boyfriend choking them and slamming their head against a wall, it's safe to say that they are playing dumb. 20 year olds understand the concept of assault and battery. They understand that you go to jail for things like that, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:20 PM
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It's easy to think that when you actually have experience and you would have known things about the world long ago. I definitely have sympathy for addicts, but relationship addiction is very serious and should be taken seriously. Unfortunately, it doesn't hold true for sheltered young people that they always know exactly what they're doing. And playing dumb is a common way for addicts to manipulate others for sympathy. Some home dynamics are sheltered nd people just start getting away from their…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:16 PM
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They don’t realize what they are complaining about isn’t normal in a relationship because they are too naive and they have been manipulated by the older individual. Sometimes, but often they are getting high on the thrill of a highly dramatic, highly toxic relationship and playing the babe in the woods for sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:55 PM
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so at 45 you can probably get sexual interest from women in their early 30s but very, very few 20-year-olds. I think that there are probably millions of 20-somethings that would die to sleep with Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:41 PM
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How long a wait are we talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:15 PM
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So why would women be so concerned about the internal pain of "anybody else" when that anybody is a woman not when it is a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:27 AM
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We are nice to each other because nobody wants anybody else to feel that kind of internal pain when they have a decent head on their shoulders. It ain’t right to dehumanize someone because they are unattractive. Plenty of women dehumanize unattractive men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:20 AM
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I think the issue is that PPD men would prefer women did have low self esteem Sounds like another goofy projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:16 AM

So once a woman has had sex she's now obligated to have sex with any man who wants to? That's a totally absurd interpretation of what was said. Withholding sex or waiting in a relationship is different than simply not being interested in someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:36 AM

Ask any woman that has tried to wait for sex and let her tell you how most men don’t have the patience. How serious were the men? Obviously no one is going to wait if they don't have long term intentions in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:33 AM

If a guy flirts with me at a party and I don't make out with him, am I "not applying my standard equally"? It sounds like you didn't have enough experience to have a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:31 AM
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For women, feeling and being sexy is separate from wanting to be desired. That's just completely irrational. Women know that they can't be sexy without being worthy of sex, just like anyone else. Perhaps they don't like to admit that this is still so important to them, but that's what it is. Being sexy and being sexually desirable are one and the same. Doesn't make sense to you, because you don't get it. I totally get it. It is humiliating for modern women to admit how essential to their self wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:19 PM
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I thought we were talking about intentions this whole time. It's been very clear that we have been talking about what it means to be sexy. Did we switch topics or have we been arguing about two completely different things this whole time? If you were, you just weren't speaking English. There's no rational way to misconstrue what I was saying. Women can try to look sexy for themselves Looking sexy is about being worthy of sex. I have said this repeatedly for like five replies now. Women certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:51 PM
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No? I said "women aren't necessarily thinking of how men see them". I can see my self as sexy and it doesn't go any further than that. They are definitely thinking of how worthy they are of being seen. That's the whole point. You can't be sexy without being worthy of sex. There's no such thing as sexy without some other person to perceive you as being worthy of sex. Partly, yes. No, entirely. The rest is irrelevant. But that doesn't say anything about what she's trying to do internally. Which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:18 PM
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What you are saying doesn't make any sense. You seem to think that a desire to be sexy has nothing to do with a desire to be sexually attractive. That's just absurd. There are huge industries around selling women products that will supposedly make them sexy. Lingerie retailers have been criticized by feminists for catering to "the male gaze".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 04:54 AM
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Is not psychological data, its hard facts. No, it's your extrapolation. That's not a fact. Is not people saying they felt abandoment by their partners, its divorce rates between ill people. And getting from there to "women accommodate men more tho" takes a mental pole vault. That's not science. You ask for a citation and I gave it to you. No, you gave me your goofy interpretation phrased as a claim of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:57 AM
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But what you say indicates you don't understand. That's the thing. I think that it is much simpler than you are making it out to be. I'm talking about the inner thinking and feeling of women. I think you are just reciting the rationalization. You can't figure out what women are thinking with pure, disconnected logic. I don't doubt that there is a public stance that they would take, even going so far as to say it to themselves, but they aren't stupid. Being sexy is about being attractive. Being w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:43 AM
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but men wouldn't get it. I think that it's easy enough to get. It's just one of those inconvenient truths that modern American women are still so preoccupied with appealing sexually to men. The thought "a man might want to have sex with me" probably never crossed her mind. Of course it does, because that is the basis of being sexy. You can't be the sexiest woman alive and be repulsive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 01:16 AM
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do you not feel different when you put on a nice suit and tie? Probably not in the way a woman intends to feel when she sees a victoria's secret ad and buys poorly manufactured lingerie. Does that suit and tie help you get laid? That's very situation dependent. Clothes can definitely help get you laid or prevent you from getting laid. Hell, depending on the woman, your shoes can cock-block you. No, but you still like the way it makes you feel. Right? I like looking sharp and wearing clothes that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:45 PM
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Way to spray vague piss! Care to elaborate or didn't you have anything particular in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:56 PM
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When we say we don’t it for men, we do it for us, we mean that walking out of the house put together and looking our best gives us a confidence boost. Doesn't that involve looking good to men? Would you get the same confidence boost if you got dressed up in a moo moo that you knew would repel male attention? The whole point of sexy is that someone will want to have sex with you. Because we get to look amazing — and clearly it isn’t to attract men at our own wedding or prom. The idea is still to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:41 PM
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I will link some research here to confirm that men physically masturbate and seek out pornography more than women I never said otherwise. My point is that you have suggested that women's use-of-media-for-the-purposes-of-sexual-self-titillation is somehow more rare or benign than men's. That's absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:05 PM
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Who argued men don’t face a pressure as well? You implied that women face some "inherent pressure" driven by a use of media by men which you don't think is as widespread among women. our male counterparts tend to use more porn and wanking material than we do Except that we don't. You just use different material as porn. You still use media to fantasize and titillate yourselves sexually just as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 03:50 PM
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I’m not referring to just fantasizing or thinking about attractive people. That's exactly my point. You've drawn a false distinction to keep an irrational idea going. Just because women use different material to fantasize than men do doesn't make it any different. Men face all of the same "inherent pressure" as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:59 PM
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That all sounds like empty rationalization. Men face all of the same "inherent pressure" as women do. Just because women use different material to fantasize about men doesn't mean they aren't doing it every bit as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:51 PM
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view movies in the same way as porn? What's "in the same way"? Women don't look or fantasize?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:32 PM
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Then whatever else you're watching makes the algorithm think you'll like these videos. Sniperwolf videos are recommended up front even on a fresh device with no login.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:31 PM
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If it keeps showing up in your feed algorithm, it's because you keep watching them 🤨 I've never watched a Sniperwolf video in my life, nor have I opened youtube in the last 3 years without being recommended at least 3 of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:00 PM
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spend hours in the gym when that’s obviously not as big a pain in the ass as shaving your vag, How harry is your vag that it takes you that long to shave? Might be time to look into laser.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:58 PM
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It can be confusing and jarring to be told you’re what he wants, then to see what he’s looking at in private is the opposite. Women don't read romance novels or watch movies with attractive men that are different from their boyfriends/husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:56 PM
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I grew up on the internet so I know very well what men think of the slightest flaw in a woman’s appearance. What "men" think, LOL? Y’all act like... This is some absurd projecting. Your little anecdotes about what you saw on 4chan don't justify these nutty generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:46 PM
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How its a generalization when its the data? The data you showed didn't justify the generalization. Aside from the fact that you simply shouldn't be going full ham making generalizations over psychological research, which isn't objective in the way that harder sciences are, you didn't actually prove anything. Its like saying that the data is wrong for showing that in average women spend double the time than men in childcare... No, because you didn't cite some data, you made a wild-ass generalizat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 01:43 PM
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Did Paul McCartny’s ex wife deserve half the money he made from all those hits? If he wanted something else to happen, he could have refrained from getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:33 AM
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That's not a rational basis on which to make the kind of generalization you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:25 AM
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Data shows that women accommodate men more tho What data?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:57 PM
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I don't fault the defense lawyer here. That's his job and everyone's right. The judge on the other hand seems to be smoking crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 10:25 AM
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Moisturizer with sunscreen...don't knock it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:05 PM
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I think it is owned by a collection of rappers, which makes sense with all the free advertising. When guy's refer to Apple Bottom Jeans, they are generally oblivious to the actual brand and are just talking about any pair of revealing jeans/big butt combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:49 PM
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men do seek women who get professional haircuts and wear certain brands Gay men perhaps? I have never heard a straight man comment on the price of a woman's haircut or the brand of her clothing....except perhaps Apple Bottom Jeans ten years ago but that had more to do with Flo-Rida than the actual brand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:42 PM
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Studies show that men find women with no makeup less attractive, but women dont. http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.1989.9712051 You are reading waaaay too much into this study. Most of the info is behind a paywall, but it looks like this involved the opinions of 8 male and 8 female "peer judges". John Oliver recently did a segment on bullshit masquerading as science, and this is a fine example. Most psychological studies are far too insignificant to make any kind of conclusions…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:57 AM
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Her nose-job has been talked about for a long time https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/45/cb/93/45cb93ce6367694275ccbebe50e07d30.jpg and her boob-job is kind of over-the-top too http://plasticsurgerygirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Scarlett-Johansson-bra-size.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:18 AM
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There's a big difference in production value in those shots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:06 AM
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She had some help there. Looks like braces and a nose-job at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 04:03 AM
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Medicine in Europe is certainly a different animal altogether. So is education system; which changes the discussion entirely. The diagnosis relies upon the people involved considering the behavior to be an 'impairment', which is utterly subjective. The same set of symptoms/behaviors can be viewed as impairment or completely normal depending upon the philosophy of the parents and teachers. Even considering that, ADD/ADHD is what is called a functional disorder, which means that it is essentially …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 09:49 PM
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A huge part of helping kids with ADHD is improving their environment though. It's working with these children to give them the tools they need to cope, but also working with their caregivers to teach them how best to help the child. This is a nice fantasy, but it is not how things work in practice. Lots of kids are prescribed medication without any additional therapy. Those who do get therapy are often limited to a brief visit once a month (if they are lucky enough to get that). Additionally, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:03 PM
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Dude, you're completely missing the point. ADHD isn't a brain mass disorder. I don't even know where you got that, I can't find the words "volume", "mass" or "brain matter" it anywhere in the links I gave. You really didn't read anything you presented, did you? Try reading your first link again, and maybe try following the links in that article as well. You should have at least a basic grip on an article before you hold it out as proof of something. ADHD is a neurological functional disorder. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:41 AM
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The "questions" you asked are dumb, passive-aggressive attempts to find some pedantic "chink in the armor" of the links I provided. They are reasonable questions. If you can't answer them, then that is a result of your lack of understanding of the material and not the quality of the question. Your name-calling just shows that you aren't willing to be honest here. Obviously this is an average. Jesus. So how do we know which of the children diagnosed with ADHD actually have any physical difference…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:37 PM
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Can you answer any of the questions I asked or not? At this point it is pretty obvious that you don't have the slightest understanding of the material you linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:12 PM
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You think that RainMan's symptoms could be caused by parenting style? Sure. I don't think that there is any evidence whatsoever to support your views here. Why are you only making these claims about ADHD then? Take a look at the title of the post... Following your logic you might as well claim mental illness is all made up by a global government conspiracy to pump everyone with pills. You have just made a ridiculous straw-man. I never suggested anything of the kind. You mean we don't know for ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:09 PM
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There is nothing childish or petty about the questions I am asking. If you don't have at least a decent understanding of the material, you should say as much when you bring it up. I've lived with ADHD my whole life and I've researched it extensively. Then why can't you answer any of the very basic questions I asked about the research you are holding out as evidence? There is no doubt about the validity of ADHD as a very real neurological condition amongst the relevant scientific fields of study.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:49 PM
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Why do you think that? You think that RainMan's symptoms could be caused by parenting style? Again none of what you're saying is exclusive to ADHD at all. I never claimed that it was. Yes an ADHD diagnosis can be subjective depending on the doctor, but so can any other mental disorder. Yes you can argue ADHD is caused by bad parenting in some cases, but the same goes for any other mental disorder. So, in other words, we have absolutely no way of determining which children diagnosed with ADD/ADHD…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:10 PM
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Is that to say that you don't know the answer to any of the questions I raised in response to your comment? If you are presenting evidence, it is reasonable to expect that you have a solid understanding of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 09:08 PM
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You can literally say this about every single mental illness. The difference being that the symptoms of autism cannot be caused by incompetent parenting, whereas all of the symptoms of ADD can. we've found a treatment now so well done. That is great for you, but it doesn't answer any of the issues I have raised about ADD/ADHD diagnosis. Do you have an answer as to how we conclusively determine which children diagnosed with ADD actually have an innate biological disorder? Simply saying "it doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 08:32 PM
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None of those articles link to any actual studies, so I'm having a hard time understanding what they actually mean. For starters, the article states that ADD/ADHD affects 3-5 percent of the population and that the subjects with ADD/ADHD had a 3-4% smaller brain volume. Does that mean that all of the ADD/ADHD diagnosed patients consistently have 3-4% smaller brain matter? If a child doesn't have 3-4% less brain volume, does that mean that they don't have ADD/ADHD? Also, the study was conducted in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 08:14 PM
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There have been MRI scans which show differing brain activity in people with various mental disorders, ADHD included. Do these tests determine conclusively who has a innate, biological disorder and who's inattentiveness is caused by a lifestyle factor like inactivity or troubled family life? There's been no real single biological element shown to cause any mental illness including autism, schizophrenia, or bipolar either, and those are definitely real things. Right, but everything in the DSM tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:42 AM
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People who say ADHD isn't real are the same breed of moron who thinks vaccines cause autism. Has there been proof of a consistent, underlying biological disorder that causes the symptoms associated with ADD/ADHD? There have been plenty of studies that show a very strong correlation between lack of exercise and the presence or severity of ADD/ADHD symptoms. Practitioners can observe symptoms and ask questions of parents, but they are extremely limited in their ability to determine conclusively wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:15 AM
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Additionally, is the (extremely low) risk of plane crash worth the benefit of being able to travel across the planet? Beyond the extremely low risk of crashing, there is the ever-worsening treatment that has become the norm for air travel. I have never had a fear of crashing, but these days I avoid air travel whenever possible. Likewise with marriage, I don't worry about bachelorette party fiascos, but I am definitely not convinced that marriage is as worth it as it once was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:47 AM
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I used to give 90 minute lectures 4x a week, and I don't know exactly what is meant by "lead the conversation". This sounds like a very awkward request to make just because it is so far from the norm of what happens in a two-way conversation. Besides, even Frederick Douglass couldn't 'lead' a conversation with someone who didn't want to cooperate. I don't mean to go pissing in anyone's cheerios, but I don't see this as a meaningful test/measurement of anything at all.
/r/TheRedPill20/09/16 08:07 PM
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It is 100% factually correct. The point being that the man has a choice in whether his semen makes its way into a vagina. The fact that he can't kill the baby after it is conceived doesn't mean that he isn't responsible for helping to conceive it. He doesn't have agency as to whether a birth occurs or not. Even you have already established that. He has agency as to whether he chooses to get someone pregnant in the first place. Pennies away from everything else. Over 50 billion dollars in back ch…
/r/MensRights07/09/16 10:03 AM
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He has the same say as you post-conception. That is a huge caveat. You don't know that. For all you know he could be putting a brave face on things. You are infantilizing him and denying his agency. It is still pennies for the tax payer No, its not. It sucks away resources from everything else. All it takes is one girl to lie to you and then the shoe is on the other foot. That's why I wrap it up. It's not too much to ask the next guy to do the same.
/r/MensRights06/09/16 10:09 PM
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What you are saying is that it is fair for a man to be penalised heavily twice, once forced into parenthood against his will and then again for sums to raise a child he didn't' want. He did have choice in the matter; certainly much more than I did. Because of that, he should pay more towards the costs of his children than I do. Besides, my co-worker didn't make any reasonable efforts toward preventing children year after year, child after child. Such a cost is massive for the individual but minu…
/r/MensRights06/09/16 09:34 PM
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Okay but here's the thing: you're basing your whole argument on this one man. Your coworker is an irresponsible grown up child, there's no denying that. The point is that we need a set of rules that takes into account irresponsible people like him. Simply dumping the costs to raise his many children on others isn't acceptable to me. Responsible, mature people aren't going to be an issue because they don't have 5 kids by four mothers by age 30. Do you think it should be legal if the man in questi…
/r/MensRights06/09/16 06:20 PM
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Who's to say either one was irresponsible? He joked about getting women pregnant. He said 8 out of 10 times he got drunk on tequila, he wound up getting someone pregnant. Who knows how many of his kids were aborted with or without his knowledge. Condoms break, birth control, plan b, and even vasectomies fail. You have to actually do that shit in the first place before you can blame a failure. Its pretty clear that he and the type of women he got with weren't thinking that far ahead. Why should a…
/r/MensRights06/09/16 06:46 AM
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You are infantilizing this guy just as badly as feminists infantilize women.
/r/MensRights05/09/16 08:30 PM
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That is ridiculous. They both started that process knowingly and willfully. Both had ample opportunity to stop it from happening. Obviously she had an extra opportunity to stop it after his opportunities to stop it had passed, but he had infinitely more say in the matter than I did. He could have had a vasectomy before-hand, he could have done a better job of being careful who he fucked, he could have worn a rubber. These are all choices he made. Besides, this isn't some freak accident. Year aft…
/r/MensRights05/09/16 08:12 PM
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I'm doing no such thing. What I am saying is that my co-worker should have to pay more to support his numerous kids than I do.
/r/MensRights05/09/16 06:17 PM
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However, one can terminate the pregnancy, without penalty, without informing the father, and without having the father have the option to have the child and raise it himself if she doesn't want to be a mother. It doesn't follow logic that the person with the last opportunity to stop it is the only one with responsibility. An abortion is a much bigger deal than a vasectomy. If he doesn't manage to do that, then I don't see how he is free of obligation because she doesn't try or manage to get an a…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 09:39 PM
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When it's entirely up to the woman whether a child comes to be or not, the man is beholden to the woman's decision. How is that fair, while the woman can opt out to a much greater degree before and after birth? It's not fair, but it would be more unfair to make me pay as much toward his child's upbringing as he has to pay. He at least had a say in the matter to begin with. Year after year, child after child, he continues to do the same thing.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 09:12 PM
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And the mothers weren't irresponsible? Sure. They were both irresponsible. I realize that his children's mothers had a choice to end the pregnancy where he did not, and I understand the inherent lack of fairness in that. And that makes all the difference. But what would be even more unfair would be if I had to pay as much toward their child's upbringing as they did.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 09:10 PM
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No one is saying it is equally fair between the mother and father. I am saying that it would be more unfair to dump the obligations entirely on the tax payer. His actions contributed to the situation more than mine, so he should pay more towards the kids upbringing than me.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 08:32 PM
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Again, it doesn't apply because the adoptive parents are taking on the financial responsibility voluntarily and not dumping it on the taxpayers.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 08:31 PM
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It is certainly unfair, but it would be more unfair for the people who were involved in the chain of actions that lead to the pregnancy not to bear more responsibility and obligation than the general public.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 08:30 PM
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That's not an accurate analogy because that isn't a chain of decisions. It's more like this: Two people (person A and person B) collaboratively plant a bomb in a public building. At some point, only person B has an opportunity to defuse the bomb. If person B fails to defuse the bomb, that doesn't relieve person A of their responsibility when it blows the building up.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:49 PM
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men are always 100% not in control of being 'on or off the hook'. He chose not to have a vasectomy and then chose to have unprotected sex. She chose to have unprotected sex and then chose not to have an abortion. I see their responsibility as equal. They should both be on the hook for the money and work it takes to raise the kid.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:45 PM
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The solution then is to stop giving taxpayer money to single mothers, not to force men to pay for kids they never wanted or agreed to bring into this world. Who said my co-worker never wanted to bring the kid into the world? He appears to simply not think about the consequences of fucking. Saying "men should keep it in their pants" is a ridiculous notion that could be said to women who don't want to get pregnant as well, but of course that would be misogyny, right? Two adults make a child, two a…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:40 PM
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Do you or do you not agree that a man should be allowed to financially abort his responsibilities if the woman chooses not to abort the child and gives the man no say in the matter? No. That's the point. He chose not to have a vasectomy and then chose to have unprotected sex. She chose to have unprotected sex and then chose not to have an abortion. I see their responsibility as equal. They should both be on the hook for the money and work it takes to raise the kid.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:38 PM
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I support abortion rights, yes. However, I don't see how we can force a woman to undergo an abortion any more than we can force a man to get a vasectomy. They both chose to have unprotected sex and not get their respective surgeries. They both should be on the hook.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:36 PM
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Both men and women should be thinking twice before having unprotected sex. It's fair that they are both on the hook to at least reduce the amount that the rest of us have to pay.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:35 PM
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Is he a rapist? If not, then the woman is complicit in the pregnancy. They are both complicit in the pregnancy, so they should both be on the hook for the money and work it takes to raise that child.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:34 PM
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The point is that those two created the baby, so those two should pay for it and not me. I don't see how that is discrimination.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:32 PM
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Then do you also think that a woman who wants to give away her kids for adoption should be charged a monthly fee for it? It would be both parents, but sure. However, if there are new parents stepping up to foot the bill such that the taxpayers aren't on the hook, I'm fine with that too.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:29 PM
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I think its fair that they are both on the hook for the work and money it takes to raise the child; at least to a greater extent than the general public.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 07:28 PM
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The solution then is to stop giving taxpayer money to single mothers, not to force men to pay for kids they never wanted or agreed to bring into this world. So just let 'em starve? Why don't we just kick everybody off of medicare first. That would save a lot more money.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 10:45 AM
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Limiting women's agency is no part of it. They both should work/pay for their kid. You know who has zero agency when it comes to their sex life? Me.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 10:41 AM
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If a man trusts his partner but she lies and stops taking birth control, how is it fair that he's forced to pay? It's not fair. However, it is even less fair to dump those costs on the rest of us. I wrap it up every time because I'm serious about not having a kid. That guy stuck his dick in crazy. I'm not saying the state shouldn't help at all, but that guy deserves to pay more than I do towards his kids. If he's careful and also uses condoms, but she pokes holes in it, how is it fair he's force…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 09:27 AM
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I'm not opposed to state assistance. I just think it is fair that they take extra money out of his check.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 09:15 AM
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Assuming the woman was able to unilaterally make the decision to allow the fetus to become a human being with the right to life, it is now 100% her responsibility to care for that life until it is able to do so on its own. The way I see it, the man also was able to unilaterally make the decision to allow his sperm to travel from his testes out into the world. A vasectomy is a lot cheaper and quicker than an abortion. Not that responsibility should be entirely on him, but his decision making also…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 09:13 AM
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If the woman does not get pregnant, neither of them has any financial consequences from having sex. If the woman gets pregnant, but chooses to have an abortion, neither of them has any financial consequences from having sex. Only if the woman gets pregnant, but chooses not to have an abortion, do financial consequences arise. And only if he chooses not to get a vasectomy and go around fucking certain women bareback do financial consequences arise. From not getting a vasectomy, to choosing the wo…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 05:20 AM
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Yes.. let them starve. Otherwise you cause more harm than good. I hear you. It's not my philosophy but I can't fault the logic. Actually, no: $2T per year, approximately 1/8th of the US GDP, is taken from men and transferred to women via government. That's pretty vague. Medicare alone is almost a third of the budget and that is to say nothing of social security. If someone has got to starve, it should be the old people who didn't plan ahead. Children are cheap relative to old people.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 05:16 AM
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Ah, the old "Let 'em starve" option. If we are going to go that route, it doesn't make any sense to even worry about welfare children. Half of the god damned federal budget goes to welfare for old people. If we just turned every poor person over 65 into soylent green, we would save so much money that poor children's benefits wouldn't be an issue.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:44 AM
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Might have gotten my replies mixed up. Two tears in a bucket.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:36 AM
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I think pretty much the same about her decisions as I do about this guy's choice to go around fucking bareback year after year without a vasectomy. We can talk about their both of their piss-poor choices and lifestyles at the same time. I don't see any reason either of them should be off the hook at the expense of my paycheck.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:28 AM
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In past decades, feminists demanded that women get reproductive choice: the pill, abortion on demand, adoption. Society was upended to give them what they wanted. Now it's only fair that they be expected to make use of the options they have, and if they choose not to there should be financial consequences. Rubbers have been an option for men for more than 100 years. I manage to put one on before I get busy and I don't think it is too much to ask this dude to do the same. Again, I'm not saying th…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:22 AM
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I was talking about the guy. At last count, he had 5 kids by 4 mothers. It seems reasonable to me that he pay something more toward that instead of dumping it on everyone else.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:16 AM
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In that case you have someone other than the tax-payers stepping up to cover the costs.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:15 AM
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I might be able to see a case made for one child at most. I think this dude was actually on his second one before he was 18. 25/30 is waaay to late in my opinion though. The people who have to pay for your kid are younger than that.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:06 AM
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The choice not to have an abortion for an unplanned pregnancy is a lifestyle decision like any other, and the person who makes a lifestyle decision should bear the cost of it on their own. Isn't having unprotected sex after already having 4 children a lifestyle decision?
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:04 AM
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I'm talking about consequences. The problem with our society is that we have abstracted and removed consequences away from decisions to such a degree that people feel like emperors. They act without any thought to the reaction to their actions. People need to start worrying about their consequences again, need to realize their actions have meaning. But you seem to think that my co-worker should have no responsibilities/consequences child, after child, after child...
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:02 AM
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You have not made a compelling argument as to why only the last decision made in a chain of decisions bears responsibility for the outcome. Can you at least agree that in a 2-link decision chain, even the maker of the first decision enjoys more choice and bears more responsibility than someone who didn't get a decision at all?
/r/MensRights04/09/16 04:01 AM
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He can go in bareback, and if she decides to abort, we don't pay a dime. And if he wears a rubber, we don't pay a dime. We can go around like this forever. The final decision is hers, not his, and she gets to make it fully informed of the consequences, too. She is only in the position to make a decision because of their mutual act. He was as informed of the consequences as she was. I'm not saying that she doesn't have an unfair amount of choice in the situation relative to him. I am saying that …
/r/MensRights04/09/16 02:50 AM
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Not exactly. If there wasn't a cost that was falling to me/us, then I wouldn't care.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 02:42 AM
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But, again, we don't pay unless SHE decides to keep it. Nor do we pay unless he decides to go in bareback and give her that decision in the first place. Both of them have some degree of decision making power in that situation. Even if she gets an unfairly larger amount of decision making power, what he has is still a hell of a lot more than we get.
/r/MensRights04/09/16 02:07 AM
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I hear you. He can't control what she chooses, but the rest of us can't control what either of them choose. It is inherently unfair that she gets an option that he doesn't and I get that. I don't like it, but I think it is even more unfair for the costs to get pawned off on the rest of us. He is an irresponsible person and he is going to continue being irresponsible. I don't see forcibly sterilizing him to be any more constitutional than forcing her to undergo an abortion. He is probably going t…
/r/MensRights04/09/16 01:50 AM
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Josephine Cochrane Huh. She's pretty too. http://kvinnofronten.nu/Formodrar/Bilder/Josephine_Cochrane.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 07:45 AM
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Ridiculous!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 07:40 AM
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How many papers am I supposed to link to, which assume the reader has no familiarity with the subject matter and provide the detailed explanation you apparently require? I'm not denying that the term's use can be found in academic papers, what I am saying is that anyone/everyone gets to make up their own version of what they mean when they use it. There is no standard definition in the sense that it could potentially be used to determine that any particular use was accurate or inaccurate. Your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 12:30 AM
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What coy? Right. You are claiming that there is a single, universal definition of toxic masculinity that is used throughout academia. For some reason, you are hesitant to actually link to that definition. If it is as you say, you should have no trouble with this. Toxic masculinity refers to behaviors that are toxic, but more related to the masculine. Compare them to positive masculinity like firefighters. This is a very vague definition that you seem to have just pulled out of the air and defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 08:36 PM
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Doesn't make them assholes just because they're drunk assholes. If they keep drinking and inflicting their asshole behavior onto others, then they are an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:05 PM
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That's a pretty shit source to be using as a basis for making claims. They don't link to the figures they are using at all, nor do they even give the full names of the studies they are using. If someone wants to make a statistical claim, they need to link to the study or provide a quote and complete title at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:04 PM
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My money says that he was into some kinky shit and they were willing to go there. Less attractive women tend to be very motivated to please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 09:58 AM
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Paul Newman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 09:54 AM
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She isn't mentally deficient in the sense that she can't function as an adult. From the description in the OP, she is well aware of the condition, well aware of who she is, well aware of what sex is and that having sex with men will satiate the drives caused by her condition. The sex with the men isn't something that happens without her knowledge or informed, adult consent. The sex with men is what she uses to self-medicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 03:59 AM
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That is very different because it would be very apparent to any reasonable person if an adult had the mind of a 5 year old. Besides, a five year old or anyone with a five year old's mind isn't mentally capable of a decision about sex under any circumstances; and that is very different than the condition described in the OP. The discussion is about an adult woman with adult capacities who is driven to unhealthy sex by a condition that only she can perceive. There is nothing to suggest that she do…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 01:24 AM
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But because she is mentally impaired and unable to give consent. Given that she is an adult and is the only one who is aware of her condition, doesn't she have an obligation to inform potential partners so they can decide if they want to participate in such a risky sexual situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 01:18 AM
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What do you mean "are assumed" in the first place? I mean that the objective is easier to prove than the subjective, by definition, and it's far easier to dismiss feminine concerns and interests as "frivolous", or it wouldn't have taken this long for science to lower itself to actually study them. This doesn't make any sense. Who is actually doing the assuming? You are making conjecture as to why men might do this more than women without any indication of how you decided that men actually do thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 12:41 AM
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My argument is not that men as a whole do this, it's that TRP does this. Did you read the OP? I agree with it, just applied to TRPers and not men as a whole. Even to apply that to "TRPers" in general relies on a fallacy of cherry-picked evidence. What portion of r/trp's subscribers or other red pill enthusiasts actually do this? I don't doubt that it happens, but you seem to be convinced that it happens pervasively among a very vague 'them'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 09:43 PM
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Because demonstrated practical benefits are assumed to trump anything that's subjective, and to personal tastes? What do you mean "are assumed" in the first place? Who is assuming this and how did you come to this conclusion? How did you decide that this means that men are more likely to belittle other hobbies than women are? This sounds like a chain of conjecture based on assumptions and anecdotes. There are way more men jerking off to the idea that the feminine is the natural enemy of civiliza…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 03:10 AM
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That doesn't have anything to do with my question. There is no indication here why anyone would think that men would look down on groups with different interest any more often than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 11:41 PM
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You mean the bigotry?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:10 PM
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When did I state otherwise? When you say things like "That's what RP is for", it implies that this negative behavior is somehow particular to RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:35 PM
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make it so that men can opt out of fatherhood I had a co-worker with 5 kids by 4 mothers. A big chunk of his paycheck every week got withheld to pay some amount towards what they cost to raise. I have no interest in letting this guy dump these costs onto the taxpayer so he can take that money from his check and put it on a blackjack table.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:38 PM
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I'm not gullible enough to determine that everyone of a specific gender, race, religion and so on is the same due to my own confirmation bias. That's what RP is for. Isn't that exactly what is going on in this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:33 PM
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Yes but mature people don't look down on groups with different interests than them and are willing to acknowledge that the differences in preference are largely subjective What reason do we have to believe that men look down on groups with different interest any more often than women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:20 PM
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It seems pretty explicit that she is discussing the atmosphere endemic to the TRP. "Why do men belittle..." "Yet men continue to say..." No, it's clearly a pissy rant about men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:17 PM
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You're nonsensically ranting about white bigotry to a black female right now bruh, please stop. What does your race or gender have to do with it? If you make irrational, negative generalizations about men, then you are engaged in bigotry. What does coontown or racism have to do with anything I've said? You are using the same rationalizations. Since we can all agree that r/coontown was bigoted, it is a good way to show that a rationalization for a negative generalization doesn't hold water. I act…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 08:02 AM
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Nothing but a Ratte for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:24 AM
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I also doubt that this meets a legal standard, but this could easily be interpreted as 'relent' rather than consent -- ie going along with sex after being coerced or intimidated into doing so There is no way to get that out of "eventually things got heated and we fucked". If you are saying that her account is inaccurate, that is one thing. What was actually written rules out her acting on a fear of immediate harm. In my jurisdiction, if it could be proved that he either knew that she was uncomfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:11 AM
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I didn't see your other response, but I responded there. if you didn't have an answer to begin with I'm not sure why you responded in the first place. The answer was that your underlying assumptions are full of shit. I can't answer why "men" in general do something when they don't generally do it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:04 AM
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Couldn't the posters on r/coontown use the exact same reasoning to justify half of the shit that was on there? They sure could. And? The point is that your bigoted generalizations about men don't have any more legitimacy than the bigoted generalizations about black people on r/coontown. The fact that your friends might agree with you doesn't mean much. but the way you are characterizing "men" says more about you than it does about men How so? In the same way that a racist's rants about black peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 06:03 AM
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The answer to the question is that I don't think men generally do that in the first place. I thought that was clear from my criticism of your underlying assumptions. I don't doubt that you have encountered this at points in your life, but I don't know why you would think I could explain what lurks in the mind of those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:49 AM
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We can never be sure that we have an accurate description, but from the account we received, we can rule out rape by any legal standard. "Eventually things got heated and we fucked" absolutely describes mutual desire and a mutual act of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:45 AM
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Yep, there is plenty of that going on. I notice that you didn't deny it was going on here...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 01:49 AM
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I couldn't tell you definitively but I can say it's something I've seen and experienced enough for me to not only raise this question here, but to have discussed this with female friends of mine IRL. Couldn't the posters on r/coontown use the exact same reasoning to justify half of the shit that was on there? I have non-red pilled guy friends who say similar things, even guys with girlfriends. They aggressively dislike the 'masculinized' modern woman who has stereotypically 'male' hobbies or int…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 01:25 AM
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So what percentage of men in general are guilty of this? It sounds like you are just taking bad experiences you have had with some men and projecting it onto "men".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 12:46 AM
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I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me. The point is that this discussion doesn't have anything to do with anyone not being able to fight someone off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 12:41 AM
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In most cases, a woman will not be able to fight off someone while sober There is a big difference between not being able to fight someone off and not making a reasonable effort to communicate non-consent clearly and unambiguously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 11:20 PM
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are you going to say that it's 110% the fault the of person who mugged you? Culpability for the crime is 110% on the person who committed the crime. If I leave my bike unlocked on the street in a big city, it is no less a theft when someone takes it. I would be stupid for leaving it, but it doesn't make the thief any less guilty of theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 11:19 PM
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Even with finances there would be problems. If he cannot tell a telemarketer or phone-scammer "no", then he shouldn't be managing his own finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 11:10 PM
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College students are typically being helped out financially by parents, and many are still dependents. Often, yes, but I'm not sure that 'typically' is the right word. When I was in college, I knew lots of people who's parents were too broke to help them. Besides, how is any college students' reliance on their parents any different than previous generations of students' reliance the lavish subsidies, grants, loans, etc. that were typical of the college experience prior to the mid 70's? The idea …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 10:49 PM
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What does that even mean? I know people in their 40's that are more childish and immature than the young teenagers in my family, but I doubt anyone would question their adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 10:29 PM
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Kissing doesn't invalidate that "no". Groping doesn't invalidate that "no". These are both clear, non-verbal communications of consent. They would satisfy even the craziest and most over-reaching affirmative consent policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 09:16 PM
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What was described in that thread was incredibly morally iffy. But definitely not rape....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 09:13 PM
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College students are adults. Somehow we forgot this...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 09:07 PM
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You literally quoted me saying "some prosecutors/laws/juries" I thought it was a typo and you meant "some prosecutors/lawyers/juries". It doesn't make any sense to say that a law "could easily label that as forceful and/or threatening." That only makes sense if you add elements to the story which aren't there. There's no such thing as a "rational basis" in how this law applies I didn't mean it as a legal term. Any argument needs a rational basis to be a legitimate argument. If it has an irration…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:42 PM
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What laws are you talking about? The ones you are referencing in your earlier comment... That doesn't make any sense. I never questioned the rationality of any laws in that passage. The quote of mine that you included doesn't do anything to explain what laws you are talking about or why you chose to bring them up. Yes, that's why I said it's an iffy case. From what we are reading, its not just 'iffy'. There's no rational basis on which to conclude that she would be in fear for her life or safety…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 12:58 AM
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So, essentially, man-babies is right up there with "spoiled little princess" for things you don't say if you want to pretend you're not a bigot? I don't know what you mean about pretending anything, but using hateful gender-slurs is an act of bigotry/sexism. I think some folks would call this 'victim-blaming'. No, that would be saying... You are missing the point. I am talking about blaming the victim of their bigotry by weaving up some reason why they deserved it. You claimed that "most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 08:53 PM
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Eh, laws are not usually passed without a rational basis What laws are you talking about? Her story is vague enough that any assertion of a threat would involve a heavy dose of assumption. Its certainly possible, but there is nothing in the story to convey a threat of bodily harm and the fact that it would have been central to the story means that it probably would have gone in if it had happened. The way it was written sounded as if he just mounted her before he starting anything that she could…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 08:41 PM
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Some prosecutors/laws/juries could easily label that as forceful and/or threatening. Some prosecutors/laws/juries could easily label anything as forceful and/or threatening. That doesn't mean that there is any rational basis to do so. This case is vague enough and weird enough that it is just serving as an ink-blot test upon which folks project their own baggage and hysteria. The guy might have done something that a reasonable person could have interpreted as a serious threat of immediate harm, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 07:22 PM
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The getting on top of her technically could be considered force. But that doesn't square with her characterization of events. "...and eventually things got heated and we fucked anyway" does not sound like she was coerced to consent with a threat of bodily harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 07:07 PM
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Why would she try to find out how hard he would punch her if she already knows that he won't care about yet another "no"? That just doesn't seem like a reasonable interpretation of "eventually things got heated and we fucked anyway".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 11:13 AM
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What did you take it to mean when she said "eventually things got heated and we fucked anyway"? I took this to mean that she became genuinely receptive and in agreement to the sex at some point prior to the sex happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 11:03 AM
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Kissing back would satisfy even the most stringent affirmative consent standards. No one is saying she can't feel violated. Lots of victims agree to do things they don't want to for all kinds of reasons. However, this is a long, long way from the crime of rape by any legal or even organizational standard. No plausible set of laws could have prevented or punished this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 10:45 AM
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Was it really their fathers that forced their mothers to be that way? I would imagine it had more to do with their grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:42 AM
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Show me some real hatred towards men, then, and not a sarcastic embrace of anti-feminist stereotypes. http://archive.is/nq76W This appears to have a fair amount of contempt. It certainly has gender-slurs. The manosphere is a small minority of men So it is impossible to be sexist and bigoted toward them? and most of the hate directed their way is based on the hate they direct towards others. That is another perfect example of a rationalization. I think some folks would call this 'victim-blaming'.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:41 AM
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They certainly used a lot of iconography from that time period and that particular aspiration or ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 07:04 AM
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Actually, me personally? I can't even hate the entire manosphere. The rationalization is your attempt to spin the vitriol directed toward men as if it was somehow aimed at the manosphere and not men. That's like when a racist says "I wasn't talking about black people in general; just n*****s. But even if I did hate them all blindly, it still wouldn't be misandry. I suppose it depends what you mean by "them all". Lots of racists don't hate all black people. Do you even understand the meaning of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 06:53 AM
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Because hating the manosphere isn't the same as hating men, no matter how hard you might wish it? This is a perfect example of a rationalization. Every bigot has some reason why their hate and ignorance is justified. Perhaps your bigotry stinks as much as the next guy's, but you just can't face it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 06:01 AM
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But I can see how one could tie it into sexism Wouldn't it be just as reasonable for critics of TBP to take what they say and 'tie it into' sexism as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 10:33 PM
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So, your bigotry is ok because reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:40 PM
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Like when they shut down r/coontown, or is that different because your brand of bigotry is ok and their brand of bigotry is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:36 PM
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Point being that it isn't all that different. Bigotry toward men is just as bad as bigotry toward minorities and the "but we think it's funny" excuse doesn't hold water either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:23 PM
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Every bigot has a rationalization...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 07:15 PM
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Didn't the mods of r/coontown make the same excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 06:50 PM
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Because those things don't prevent the crimes and by implying that the victim should have done anything to prevent it (which most victims already do) you are just making them blame themselves instead of the person that committed the crime. I think you are conflating culpability for a crime and responsibility for precautions. A person could leave their bike unlocked all day in an area with high theft, and they still bear no culpability for the crime if it gets stolen. The person who stole it is j…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 10:50 PM
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Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is exactly the standard prosecutors are held to Does that mean that every 'not-guilty' verdict or every time someone who is not charged criminally after being accused should be counted as a false accusation? Certainly the Innocence Project has shown us that a guilty verdict doesn't mean a person actually committed a rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 08:18 PM
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Just post your question to the group. If my responses are that unreasonable, others will weigh in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:23 PM
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Just imagine how you would look filled with absolute terror. Communication of non-consent doesn't have to be verbal, and any reasonable person would be able to understand this as non-consent. I think the other user is talking about a situation where a reasonably clear communication of non-consent isn't given.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:04 PM
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But I'm talking to you, but OK As I said, I'm getting very tired of entertaining questions that, even if well thought out, aren't worded clearly enough to convey what you mean. This is the last question I'm going to entertain in this thread. I will participate in a general question to the group if you are interested. your viewpoint is the exact viewpoint which can be used by a judge/jury to claim that a woman wasn't "really raped" because she didn't give unambiguous withdrawal of consent. If she…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 07:46 PM
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I can agree with your point, competent adults should voice what they want This is going farther than what I was saying. A reasonable effort to communicate clearly is the obligation I brought up. But still, if you're looking at it from the after math perspective, if a person is being attacked they could lose the ability to act as expected. This sentence doesn't make any sense. The first half doesn't match the second half and in a situation where someone is being 'attacked', their communication of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 02:30 AM
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Yes, I asked you again what the point of your CMV is? What lead you this? I have already answered this. I want to see how many of us can agree on this basic point. You can see from the sheer number of comments that there is plenty of disagreement even on that much. But I also said, what does it matter? What does it matter if we can't agree that an adult is obligated to try to communicate clearly? That is beyond obvious. This is a very basic premise to adult consent. There are a million issues re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 09:58 PM
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I don't see any questions in your last post. You seem to be giving advice to an imaginary person that is at best tangentially related to the conversation. Besides, this is my CMV and you are not being clear whether you agree or disagree with my view. This is my view: Every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort towards communicating their consent or non consent clearly. Likewise, every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort to understand their partner's communicat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 09:23 PM
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You are straying way off topic here and having some argument that doesn't have anything to do with me or my view. Every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort towards communicating their consent or non consent clearly. Likewise, every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort to understand their partner's communications and state of being. All are adults equally. If someone isn't completely confident that they can do either, then they should not be having sex at all;…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:01 PM
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I absolutely agree that every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort to communicate This is my view, right here. Furthermore, anyone who isn't confident of their ability to do so, or who has a history of being unable to communicate clearly, either shouldn't be having sex or should at least discuss this thoroughly with a partner before any contact is made. A man confirming consent by communicating with his new partner is deemed unreasonable by you Nope. This is another boogie-man …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:59 PM
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I think you are having a hard time separating what I actually said from the boogie-men in your mind and what they may have said. I have been consistently saying the same thing the whole time: Every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort towards communicating their consent or non consent clearly. Likewise, every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort to understand their partner's communications and state of being. All are adults equally. If someone isn't completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:31 PM
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Sure, but an abnormal and awkward protocol of verbal permissions imposed from outside is definitely a turnoff. That said, any adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort towards communicating consent or non consent clearly. Likewise, every adult has a responsibility to make a reasonable effort to understand their partner's communications and state of being. All are adults equally. If someone isn't completely confident that they can do either, then they should not be having sex at all;…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:25 PM
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Basically what you are saying is that women who are date raped are incompetent. Not at all. That is entirely projection on your behalf. So, if these women who for MANY reasons are unable to give a strong and forceful "no" Verbal communication is not necessary. (or maybe they already have, but the man didn't take them seriously) That is clearly rape and has nothing to do with this conversation. And the reality is, even when women DO communicate that they don't want what's happening, say no, push …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:19 PM
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I think what "normal" sexual interaction is varies from person to person. You are making my point for me. The fact is that you cannot simply demand that people include verbal consent in their personal sexual interactions. It is largely seen to be a turnoff, and there is nothing you can do to impose your will on other people and their sexuality. So, since "normal" is anecdotal, then it's a personal choice of whether or not a person works asking for consent into their "normal" approach to casual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 01:03 AM
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What does my CMV have to do with TRP? I don't represent TRP and this applies to everyone. And you have again ducked the question: What has changed about hookups in the last 15 years such that you don't believe an adult has an obligation to make an effort to communicate clearly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 11:05 PM
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That doesn't make any sense either. Hookups are not rocket science and you have yet to give any indication of how you think they have changed in the last 15 years. Besides, I'm not even lecturing anyone. You responded to my CMV and you don't even seem to disagree with my view in the first place. You seem to be arguing erratically and nonsensically just to hear yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 10:56 PM
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That doesn't make any sense either. What does n-count have to do with an adult's responsibility to make a reasonable effort to communicate clearly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 10:26 PM
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What has changed in the last 15 years relative to a competent adult's obligation to make a reasonable effort to communicate consent/non-consent clearly? It's more a partner count question. This doesn't make any sense. You don't seem to be able to follow the conversation...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:32 PM
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You have admitted you have not been in the market for years. What has changed in the last 15 years relative to a competent adult's obligation to make a reasonable effort to communicate consent/non-consent clearly? Then you lecture us on how stupid people are for not communicating clearly enough for your standards. Not my standards, just a reasonable standard. There is no reason why an adult can't make a reasonable effort to communicate clearly. If you can't grasp that much, you are stupid and de…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:21 PM
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Of course people should attempt to communicate clearly. This is all I said in the first place. Do you just like to argue or something? Ad hominem what? It is a logical fallacy where a person who is full of shit avoids answering a question by attacking the person asking the question. The bigger point here is that you are like a Monday Morning Quarterback critiquing You aren't making any sense again. It is perfectly reasonable to expect competent adults to make a reasonable effort toward expressin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 08:48 PM
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So no? You feel that an adult should't make a reasonable attempt at communicating consent or non-consent clearly? You keep ducking the question and resorting to ad hominem fallacies. People who do that are generally just irrational and full of shit...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 08:16 PM
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The answer to protect both people is to always ask for consent. This is not a normal part of human sexual interactions... Asking for consent doesn't kill the mood or anything else, if anything it increases the pleasure And....you are just fantasizing now. This has nothing to do with reality. The best we can all do is try our damndest to keep ourselves out of shitty scenarios Don't you think that a competent adult has an obligation to make a reasonable effort towards communicating their consent/n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:56 PM
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Well, I did go to college and traveled abroad in my early twenties.... Are you saying that you don't believe an adult has an obligation to make a reasonable effort toward communicating their consent or non-consent clearly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:44 PM
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No, you are wrong normal adults do have trouble communicating consent when they are being assaulted. Why do you keep conflating assault with normal sexual encounters? It isn't an assault until non-consent is ignored. That is why 50% of people freeze That doesn't mean they have any trouble expressing non-consent. By the time someone is literally has their body stiff in horror, they have already communicated non-consent clearly. I don't know why that is so hard for you to grasp. But also tbh, situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:35 AM
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Consent is only made ambiguous by people who are trying to defend rape, ime. Any adult should be able to make themselves understood unless they have a severe psychological issue. This is why affirmative consent policies in schools are so ridiculous. If the answer is no, any reasonable adult will be able to make that clear. It's normal to freeze. During an assault, yes. During normal sexual escalation that would be considered reasonable by the average person, no. There's a reason why freeze is ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 08:51 AM
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Exactly. Rapists don't care about your well-being. They are not confused. Right, which is why situations involving claims of ambiguous consent aren't rape under the law (when both parties are competent adults of sound mental health). If the consent is truly ambiguous, then it would be understandable for a reasonable person to interpret it as consent. The whole 'you must communicate your lack of consent clearly' thing is bullshit. In a way, yes, because anyone who is a competent adult does in nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 08:25 AM
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Freeze is a neurobiologically based response in the face of fear. Right. Life-threatening fear. Not a normal sexual interaction between adults. It does not indicate PTSD or severe anxiety. If you are having them in response to normal, non-life-threatening circumstances, that is absolutely indication of either, both or something similar. And when you're getting raped, it feels like a survival situation. If someone is raping you and can see that you are in fear for your life to the extent of catat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 07:52 AM
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BDSM porn, with some really unhealthy scenes... I've never read it (heard it was terrible) but my understanding is that some scenes depict rape that would meet legal definitions. The point is that a lot of people, including a lot of women, fantasize about rape scenes. It is not that far out as fetishes/sexual interests go. But why place a blind trust in literally everyone looking for advice, or a place to vent, to know how to read the nuances of nonverbal? Huh? This discussion is about a compete…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 05:27 AM
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Well, we always communicate ambiguously when we're turning people down for something, so you're asking people to be very unnatural. It is not too much to ask an adult to clearly communicate their consent or non-consent. This is soft rejection. People use this in the context of sex, as well. Sure, but that doesn't mean that an adult isn't responsible for making themselves clear. Etiquette, niceties. They're drilled into us and they don't go out the window just because we're taking our clothes off…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 05:20 AM
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TRP believes all women have secret rape fantasies. I don't know what you mean by "TRP believes" and the popularity of 50 shades of grey (rape porn) among women would indicate that there is some merit to the idea on some level. TRP believes women never want to be asked for permission. Again with the "TRP beleives", but verbally asking permission is not a part of normal sexual relations between adults. Essentially, while they don't advocate rape, they've created the scene for men who frequently co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 03:06 AM
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Okay except that someone without a history or a predisposition for mental illness would also be perfectly able to have a "freeze" response in a sexual interaction, even if they havent experienced it before? For starters, people who are so inexperienced with sex and consent that they aren't confident of their ability to communicate the very basics should approaching sex carefully and patiently with plenty of discussion before hand. If they experience such a severe psychological state that they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:59 AM
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No apology necessary. My goal is to kind of get a sense of how many of us can agree on this very basic point. There are plenty of people who don't, and with almost 350 posts, I'm having trouble following who is who.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:49 AM
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I hear what you are saying, buy you are straying far from the topic of conversation into general life advice. That is great but it just isn't the focus of this discussion. If we both agree that adults do have a responsibility to communicate consent or non-consent clearly, then we agree on the topic at hand. There are many, many conversations left to be had about healthy sex lives, but I want to address anyone who disagrees on the basic issue before exploring others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 02:21 AM
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My view is that a competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter. If someone has reason to believe that they might not be able to clearly express their consent or non-consent, it is their responsibility to discuss that with a potential sex partner before making any contact that would require consent. It is very simple. You seem to be projecting a lot of your own, unrelated baggage onto this CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:50 AM
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Are you saying that you don't inform sex partners of your inability to communicate consent/non-consent? That is very irresponsible and dangerous for the both of you. freezing isn't a mental illness. What you are describing is essentially PTSD. If you are not able to communicate consent or non-consent, then you should not be having sex at all; let alone hooking up with strangers. We ask people with mental health issues to manage them responsibly all the time. This is no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:47 AM
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You don't appear to have a coherent point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:45 AM
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I totally agree, but that isn't going to happen any time soon. People fail to hold up their responsibilities all the time. The point is that adults do have a responsibility to communicate consent or non-consent clearly. So, the best way to try and protect oneself with a new partner is to... That is a different discussion entirely...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:40 AM
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They could also be teenagers of people with non debilitating issues whatsoever If an adult can not communicate something as basic as their consent or non-consent to sex, then they absolutely have a severe mental health issue. Your CMV is based on the premise that both people are competent adults and neither has malicious intentions. Competent adults, yes. It is fair to assume that another adult has the capacity to know and communicate whether or not they want to have sex. Malicious intentions? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:38 AM
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I know but if I could experience a freeze response with no prior knowledge that I'd have one. But you already know that you have them, right? This is absolutely something you need to discuss thoroughly with a potential partner before any contact occurs which would require consent. Would it be unreasonable for me to extend my empathy towards a woman whose slightly older with a man whose not her family causing her to have the exact same reaction ? You are free to extend your empathy to anyone or e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:31 AM
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That doesn't make any sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:25 AM
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And the rational, best course of action is... Sure, but that is a different discussion entirely. The point is that all adults have a responsibility to communicate clearly and honestly evaluate their ability to consent as an adult. If they do have any reason to believe that they cannot handle themselves in a sexual situation, then they shouldn't be having sex at all; let alone hookups with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:24 AM
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Its a very bad idea in either environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:15 PM
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What?!?! That doesn't make any sense relative to what I said. This was the question: "Do you inform a potential sex partner about your condition before contact is made that would require consent?" This is clearly not a question about your childhood. Besides, I made it clear in the OP that the discussion pertains to adults. An adult raping a 15 year old is abhorrent under any circumstances and I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:14 PM
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I stay the fuck away from tumblr, but it has been proposed for California and already is the law on college campuses. Either way, it is worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:10 PM
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As one who has experienced the freeze response Do you inform a potential sex partner about your condition before contact is made that would require consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:06 PM
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If they are not competent to decide if they do or do not want to have sex, then they should be in an institution.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:04 PM
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Being unable to communicate a firm "no" to pushy strangers means you need to be in an institution? If you are unable to communicate something as basic as consent or non-consent to sex, then you definitely have a significant mental health issue that needs to be addressed by a professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:42 PM
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That doesn't mean that we cannot recognize an adult's responsibility to communicate their sexual consent/non-consent. If certain adults have mental health issues that prevent this, then that is a discussion that needs to be had; but it will always involve responsibility on behalf of all adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:39 PM
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If someone is so inexperienced with sex and consent that they are entirely unable to clearly communicate their non-consent in any way, then they have no business hooking up with strangers in the first place. They really shouldn't be having sex at all until they can get some therapy and address their problem. All kinds of people with mental health issues are advised to abstain from sex until they can work on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:37 PM
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The kind of psycho rapist you are describing wouldn't give a shit what their victim communicated in any case, so it makes no difference that the victim informed the psycho rapist of their disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:27 PM
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Have you read TRP's theories on freezing up and edgeplay? No. My (small) interest in TRP is limited to discussion on lifting, meditation, self-improvement, etc. I'm not going to forget the experiences of everyone who has suffered, just because someone took those locker room stories literally. I have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:22 PM
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i.e. they have already expressed they are not consenting but the man continues forward anyway This scenario has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. It is simply a red herring fallacy. Glad you understand THAT IS RAPE, but i've also heard people argue... I can't speak for them. assuming all "normal adult interactions" always go well for both people and that rape doesn't exist I have no idea what you are talking about here. Unexperienced people are still going to have sex. Lots of people fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:19 PM
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thats not your CMV then. No, it is in line with my CMV. In this case, an "ambiguous" withdrawal of consent (LMR, freeze response, etc) is what you're arguing against here. What I am saying is that an adult has an obligation to communicate their consent or non/consent clearly. by unambiguous, I assume you mean loud and obnoxious. Nope. Just clear, adult-to-adult communication. Doesn't even have to be verbal. Infact, dissociation and immobility, are signs of withdrawn consent, but can be argued as…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:53 PM
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So I changed your view then, right? Nope. You strayed off topic with your scenario. But rather, TRP will say that not all nos mean nos and to "push through" LMR. I'm not into TRP, but what I have seen mostly revolves around lifting, grooming, meditation and self-confidence. What you are describing is not something with which I am familiar, but all people must respect the wishes of their sexual partners. FREEZE response should be unambiguous to all people but it aint. Anyone with a history of fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:42 PM
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My post clearly stated that I am talking about competent adults. Children are a very different circumstance. Are you disagreeing that a competent adult has an obligation to clearly communicate their consent or non-consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:37 PM
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The point is that both partners have an obligation to clearly communicate their desires. This is about normal sexual interactions and not attacks. If someone is so disabled that they cannot communicate the very basics of consent, then they have no business hooking up with strangers. It is fair to expect adults to manage their mental health issues and communicate them to potential partners before any contact is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:36 PM
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And their sex partners have a responsibility to make sure they actually want sex. Sure. Both adults are responsible for communicating their consent and respecting the choices of their partners. instead of just using their body like a toy, and assuming all women want to surrender to the nearest alpha. Now you have just made an ink-blot test out of this. You are way off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:32 PM
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It is not unreasonable to expect that an adult can communicate the very basics. If an adult has so little experience with sex that they can't communicate whether they want to have it, then they have no business hooking up with strangers. If they have a history of freezing up, they need to inform potential partners about that before any contact that would require consent is made. Random or fast hookups are inherently dangerous and should only be undertaken by competent and experienced adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:29 PM
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Adults also have the responsibility to not hurt each other. Agreed. If a guy is escalating with a woman past the point of her comfort, and she expressed that to him and he willingly ignored and continued to escalate This scenario has nothing to do with the discussion. She expressed non-consent and he ignored it. That is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:27 PM
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All people should know that sex between two adults needs to be mutually consensual. Obviously. A freeze response is usually indicative that the other party did not do their due diligence to ensure that consent was present OR they simply were so selfish that they did not care. First off you presume that the person in question knows they have a history of freezing or something. If they have any reason to believe that they cannot consent like a normal adult, they need to disclose that to a potentia…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:23 PM
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Therefore, a man's instinct to have sex is more real and important than a women's instinct to freeze. This is ridiculous. An adult has every right to assume that they are dealing with another adult who doesn't have severe psychological issues that keep them from being able to communicate in the most basic fashion. Someone with PTSD needs to inform potential partners about that before any contact happens and shouldn't be having sex with strangers at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:19 PM
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Well, not if she's smiling when she's doing it and saying it playfully right? Sure, if it is a couple that knows each other well. . But, the reality is, a lot of "freeze" situations happen when the woman says no and the man interprets it as a "soft no" and continues forward, her reaction is to freeze from that point on. If someone can't communicate the basics like an adult, then they have no business getting into hookups and one night stands. If they have a problem with basic communication, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:16 PM
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I don't have casual sex or hookups and have never been a big drinker. This doesn't apply to my life at all; as I have only had sex with steady GFs for many, many years. The point is that it is reasonable to expect that an adult will communicate something as basic as their consent or non-consent clearly. If someone has a history of freezing up in normal, adult interactions, then they have an obligation to communicate that clearly to any potential sex partners before any contact is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:13 PM
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I don't necessarily disagree with anything you are saying. But because of how complicated the human psyche is, it will never be as easy as what you are saying, hence why there are so many cases of people going through with sexual acts they are uncomfortable with. People fail to uphold their responsibilities all the time. The point is that an adult does have this responsibility. Everyone wants control over themselves and the situations they find themselves in, and people who for whatever reason l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:07 PM
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A normal, mentally healthy adult should have no problem communicating something as basic as consent or non consent to a potential sex partner. If someone has a history of freezing up during normal human interactions, then they absolutely need to discuss that with a potential partner before contact happens. I would not consent to sex with someone who didn't have basic, adult capacities to communicate. Likewise, I would feel very violated if someone were to sneak such a situation on me because I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:01 PM
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I don't think there is a perfect solution, but at the very least, someone who has any reason to believe they can't communicate basic consent or non-consent has an obligation to discuss that with a potential partner before any contact is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:59 PM
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It really isn't too much to expect that an adult can communicate the very basics. If an adult knows that they have a history of freezing and non-communication, then they are absolutely obligated to discuss that with any potential partners thoroughly before any contact is made. If they find out that they have a psychological issue that makes them unable to communicate even the very basics, that is terrible but it doesn't make their partner a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:57 PM
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If she's pushing you away telling you no This is clearly communicated non-consent. There is no debate about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:53 PM
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Huh? I'm talking about and adult's obligation to communicate their consent/non-consent clearly. I haven't had sex with a non-gf in many, many years. Never was a big drinker or hookup person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:50 PM
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In a perfect world, yes, but that's just not the case. The point is the obligation and the responsibility. When you get behind the wheel, you have responsibilities and obligations. Likewise, when you have sex with someone, you have responsibilities and obligations. We all know that not everyone upholds their responsibilities, but the point is that we have them. have you never come across other adults that are so passive aggressive that they can't clearly convey something in a much less loaded sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 12:17 PM
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Yes they do. That's all I'm saying. Is that something you want to play chicken with, though? Completely different subject here, but of course not. My sex life wouldn't include anything of the sort. I'm not a drinker or hook-up person so I really don't encounter situations like this in my own life. Legally, there is no such thing as affirmative consent. That is the way the momentum is moving. Lots of people calling for exactly that and many institutions are already there. Ethically, I don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 12:03 PM
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We all know that people fail to uphold their responsibilities all the time. The point is that they have the responsibility to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:51 AM
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You sound like a psycho rapist. Anyone has a right to leave your house at any time or stop any act at any time. This is basic citizen shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:48 AM
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Again, that is a different discussion. Everyone should always protect themselves. The point I am making is about adult responsibility: An adult has every right to assume that another adult can communicate something as basic as their consent or non-consent. If someone finds out for the first time that they have a severe psychological issue during a sex act, that is awful but it does not make their partner a rapist. If they do know that they have such an issue, then it is their obligation to discl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:42 AM
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How do you know that the person you climb into bed with isn't going to panic, though? You can't tell that they have ptsd, Catholic guilt or are a nervous virgin from watching them on the dance floor, or a shouted conversation in the nightclub. The point is that it is an adult's responsibility to evaluate their own ability to communicate consent or non-consent honestly. If they have PTSD, or any reason to believe that they might have a problem with basic communication, then they should be telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:33 AM
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If someone, for whatever reason, may not be able to properly convey that they don't want to perform a sexual act when it's happening or about to happen, how can you expect them to be able to pinpoint that and explain it to you before hand? An adult should have no problem clearly communicating consent or non-consent. If they have some severe psychological issues that might potentially render them unable to communicate, then they have an obligation to disclose and discuss that prior to sex. Sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:24 AM
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In the real world, we need to accept that not everyone is competent or reliable, and to proceed with caution. Obviously everybody should use caution. What I am talking about is an adult's obligation to clearly communicate their consent or non-consent. We know that in reality it won't happen every time, but the point is that adults do have that responsibility. If someone isn't mentally competent to handle that much, they are absolutely not qualified to be making their own sexual choices. I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 11:14 AM
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I think there might be some ink-blot test going on here. A lot of people could look at those events and see something that related to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:11 AM
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If you can't tell the difference between an abusive psycho and a person that is going to treat you with kindness, empathy, dignity, respect, etc, then you need to take things very slow first and foremost. If you don't have any experience with healthy relationships and interactions between people, then that is the thing to focus on and find help with before jumping into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 12:56 AM
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The problem with that is that there is a lot of hostility out there aimed at men who want low n-count women. "Seriously, what the fuck? Why should that matter!?!?" is something that I feel like I see a lot on here and in life over this issue. Men are accused of all manner of personal, psychological and physical shortcomings when they express the kind of reasoning you suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 11:59 PM
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Is he being perfectly reasonable, though? Or does he just want someone who is easier to hurt? Why would you assume he has any intention of hurting anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 11:51 PM
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If her suckish behavior becomes a regularity, he is better off single unless he is needy or codependent; in which case he will be miserable either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 10:59 PM
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Crankiness and irritability is normal. Acting crazy, selfish, childish, etc. isn't something that can be blamed on her cycle. Plenty of women use their period as an excuse to indulge in pissiness and hostility. That is a character flaw more than a hormonal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 10:57 PM
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Men have kids after 40 increases the kids risk of all sorts of genetic disorders as well as a decline in fertility This is still based largely on conjecture, and the statistical evidence for any association between negative health effects and paternal age is still very weak. There is indication that children of older fathers are significantly more likely to be diagnosed with a variety of mental health issues, but no evidence so far that they are actually more likely to have those mental health i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:21 PM
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Sounds like an argument against marriage, not an argument for staying in an unfulfilling marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:02 PM
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So if a girl is shrewish around her period but great the rest of the time? There is no such thing. A woman being on her period doesn't make her selfish, immature, etc. If she acts that way on her period, it is because that is who she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:59 PM
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If "her behavior sucks", then it is a shitty relationship and the guy is better off single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:55 PM
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a history of casual sex doesn't prevent someone from having a deep emotional connection and mutually respectful relationship with their current partner. Sure, but someone who's sexual history is characterized by short or meaningless relationships would have to have changed a lot as a person to want something totally different now. That is just another of the many, many things that someone should consider before entering into a marriage. It's pure conjecture and has nothing to do with the day to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 02:45 AM
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If by intimacy you mean ability to emotionally bond there is no relationship between ability to emotionally bond and number of past sexual partners. I'd be interested to know how you measured this so conclusively, but I didn't intend to convey that act of promiscuity destroys a person's ability to emotionally bond. A person who only has sex when they have a deep, emotional connection and mutually respectful relationship with someone isn't going to have a history characterized by hook-ups, one ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 01:49 AM
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And not using the marriage as a proxy arena for gender-politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 01:22 AM
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It shows a lot about their connection between intimacy and sex as well as how much they value their body and sexuality. These are important things in an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 01:20 AM
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In this survey, 6% of men admitted to rape or attempted rape. How was rape defined? Sometimes the crazy numbers we hear are the result of absurdly inflated definitions of rape. Some surveys count having sex with a man "after he made promises that he knew weren't true" as sexual assault/rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 10:47 PM
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Someone who doesn't have a strong connection between intimacy and sex wouldn't be attractive to me as an LTR. Among other things, it could indicate a lack of reverence and value she places on her own body and sexuality. Besides, condoms don't prevent all STDs and it implies a negligence about health.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 10:34 PM
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Lots of Reds say it impairs her ability to pair bond, but that only works if she actually cared about the guys to begin with I think that having lots of casual sex-partners that she didn't care about is a different kind of red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 10:22 PM
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Mee-Ow!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 04:47 AM
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It really depends on the community. Some communities are still sort of 'old world' and admitting any kind of psychological issue would be met with hostility and rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 11:10 PM
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It only works if you are wearing Kikwear jeans and an upside-down visor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 07:33 PM
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Maybe that's what turns his crank....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 08:37 AM
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A slave was an expensive thing to buy. You didn't waste it by sending if down a mine to get buried under tonnes of slate, when you could pay poverty wages to a free man, woman or child. So now slaves didn't do any mining? You have no idea what you are talking about. Of course, you are again trying to dodge the question: Do you have any rational basis for your absurd claim about most men owning the fruits of their labor? And a man kept his (meagre) earnings. Unless he was one of the soldiers, sla…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 07:20 PM
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i suppose; i've never really heard of a case where an aggressor didn't cause any damage or hurt so they don't seem separate to me, but i haven't really researched it either (not being into that kind of thing, and all). in any case, there's a lot of overlap there. What I meant is that there is a big difference between fantasizing about a scene where they are on either side of someone being hurt and actually entertaining the idea hurting someone or going out and getting hurt. To be clear, I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:31 AM
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I think there is also a big difference between someone fantasizing about a scene where they are the aggressor and fantasizing about actually hurting someone. At the same time, I think that someone who is not fantasizing about a scene or idea of being hurt, but actually entertaining the idea of going out and getting hurt, they are probably 'not well' either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:10 AM
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You are not arguing coherently and generally are not making sense. Throughout the history of civilization most mining has been done by slaves who lived short lives. Even miners who weren't slaves exactly were held in some form of bondage that kept them from owning anything or having anything more than the minimum to keep their family alive on a week-to-week basis. Again, the point is that you are being intentionally misleading and obtuse by repeatedly claiming that men generally owned the fruits…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 03:49 AM
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Royalty in its various forms. Certainly poor men (the vast majority of men) didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 03:12 AM
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What does this have to do with your absurd claim that men throughout history owned the fruits of their labor while women didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:59 AM
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i would want that person far far away from me... but they are free to fantasize as they please. Would you also want a woman who fantasizes about being raped "far far away" from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 12:56 AM
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Sure, I think most people have at least one fucked up fantasy that they'd never admit to in a million years. But would you consider rape fantasies to be "fucked up" regardless of what role the person plays in their fantasy? In other words, is a woman's rape fantasy where she is the victim something you would consider "a fucked up fantasy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 12:55 AM
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I was pointing out the absurdity of your assertion that mine-working was done by women and children more so than men. That said, I'm sure you would have taken just about any excuse to duck out of answering for your ridiculous and irrational claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 12:35 AM
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Ah yes, all of the women worked the mines while the men sat back and drank beverages from coconuts...This is the kind of impression you get when you try to learn about history from gender studies books. When women were used in mines, they generally occupied the same roles as elderly men while younger men and boys did the heavier lifting. Again though, that is not to say that female slaves had life any better. The point is that you made an absolutely absurd claim that men in general owned the fru…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 06:56 PM
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Girls and women working in mines caused a huge scandal. You've studied history, you know about the church losing it's shit over semi naked women down pits. I hear you. My understanding is that throughout world history, working in mines was by and large something that was done by men and boys; even though there are plenty of women and girls that were condemned to the same awful fate. Whether I am right or not isn't all that relevant to what I have been saying over and over: that it is inaccurate,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:24 AM
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A serf owned his produce and his wife's. The family would get to keep barely enough to survive on and the rest would go to the nobility. How does the man in that scenario own any more than his family? Even slaves were usually allowed to eat enough of the food they grew to survive. An infantry soldier had a similar mortality rate to the girl who bore his offspring in a filthy hovel. An infantry (young boy) soldier would have been very lucky to live long enough to ever even have sex, so its a litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 03:56 AM
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What happens when someone is lucid enough to clearly communicate consent; even though they are blacked out, behaving very differently from normal and won't remember a thing? It takes a lot of booze to get there but booze mixed with ambien or xanax can bring a person there quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 03:44 AM
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Nice attempt at a dodge, but that is incorrect. 'Serf' is a more specific term than 'peasant', but all serfs were peasants and all peasants were generally held in some form of bondage anyway. Even when they technically 'owned' the piece of land they worked, they would generally be held in some form of debt bondage that would prevent them from actually owning anything or having any freedom. Serfs were always in bondage and were largely attached to a piece of land that could be bought, sold, trade…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 03:15 AM
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What additional difficulty (relative to men) does the modern, American woman face in acquiring extrinsic value?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:58 AM
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Most peasants/serfs existed in one form form of bondage or another and didn't own anything. Their very persons were generally considered property of the local nobility. Soldiers existed in an even more direct form of slavery and often didn't live long enough to ever have a wife or children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:55 AM
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at the cost of having more difficulty acquiring extrinsic value Is this something that is still going on today?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:38 AM
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Are you under the impression that the majority of men throughout history owned the remuneration of their toil?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:35 AM
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My fears about "misogyny"? I don't have any. What I was wagering was that it would be an issue; not that the issue would hold water logically.
/r/MensRights10/08/16 12:41 AM
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and inviting men to help occupy the lounge would seemingly violate the spirit of the very thing they're protesting for - a women only space. They made it clear that the men weren't allowed to speak...
/r/MensRights10/08/16 12:19 AM
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I would wager that if you were to start up a "gentlemen's club" now it would be less of an issue. I would wager against that. It would be decried as a source of 'misogyny" (without explaination).
/r/MensRights10/08/16 12:18 AM
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why is Japan's birthrate way below replacement levels I think that this is partly because young people simply cannot afford to get married, buy a house and raise children. In many parts of Japan, it is impossible to survive on one income, and two incomes isn't enough to afford daycare.
/r/MensRights08/08/16 09:02 PM
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I was thinking more along the lines of hepatitis but there's no wrong reason to wrap it up. I don't even go bareback in a multi-year relationship cause I'm real, real serious about avoiding fatherhood for now. Japanese condoms are a lot nicer to use than domestic in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:44 AM
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No offense, but are you lower class? I was raised upper-middle class and I had lots of friends from different parts of town and different backgrounds. It was fairly consistent but the folks from the wealthy areas and Catholic schools were the meanest to other girls by a significant margin. I never hear women (or most men for that matter) speak that way or slut shame. Everyone's experience is different, but I would suggest that if you never hear women slut-shame it might be an indication that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:34 AM
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Have you worked with different therapists? Ive heard that it is rare for a borderline to admit that they have a problem. Maybe you were misdiagnosed? Maybe other therapists could offer you a more effective treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:29 AM
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That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:27 AM
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USA. East coast as well. I certainly don't hear it that often, but when someone is shaming a woman for being promiscuous, it is almost always other women (in my experience). I have never gotten the impression from other men that they had the same kind of vitriol toward promiscuous women that women have (again, in my experience). I remember girls in high-school going on and on about what a slut Britney Spears was. Generally when men talk about a woman's promiscuity, it is not seen in a shameful l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:25 AM
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In real life 99% of all slut shaming I witness comes from men. Exact opposite in my experience. I suppose these things are hard to measure empirically.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:17 AM
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Specifically wanting a chunky chick is being an outlier. So is being obsessed with feet, getting verbally abused or fucking in fur suits. That doesn't mean he shouldn't do it 'till he's satisfied (whatever it is).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:13 AM
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Are you saying that anyone who would bang the girl in the photo have a mental illness? To each his own, buddy. I personally think Kim K looks like an alien drag queen and my girlfriend thinks she's beautiful. I would bang the girl from the photo long before I would bang Kim K (not that I'm especially interested in either).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 12:49 AM
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Then the things that make your pee hurt are the least of your concerns. Time for a hop, skip and a jump to the clinic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 07:35 PM
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A major city in the Northeastern US. Not trying to say more than that because I'm an asshole on here. EDIT: Sorry about the several repeat posts - I was getting 503 errors and didn't realize they were actually posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 07:28 PM
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You sure as fuck don't live in my part of the world...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 06:47 PM
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Me today: WNB. Me as a teenager: WB. If I had a son and he actually listened to me, I would say DNB If you preferred pepsi over coke, would you insist he drink that too? If chubby girls are what turn his crank, there's no sense trying to steer him away.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 06:46 PM
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She's open to suck advances That's specific...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 10:28 AM
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Why reinvent the wheel?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 10:25 AM
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Avoid fatties like the plague What if fatties turn his crank?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 10:22 AM
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What you are describing is not rape by deception at all. That is just plain old rape because someone didn't consent to the act of receiving anal sex with anyone. Rape by deception (in theory) involves sex that is agreed to under false pretenses, not getting someone into a room under false pretenses and committing a sex act to which they don't consent. This has to be about the dumbest post I have ever seen in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/16 04:44 AM
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you're completely dismissing her post and assuming she has it easier because she's a woman In fairness, they are dismissing her because she refuses to make any reasonable effort; not because she is a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 09:28 PM
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Why would you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:14 PM
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I just wish they didn't devolve into misogyny so often. Would it be fair to say the same about advocacy groups for women; that they so often devolve into hatred for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 05:52 PM
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Feminism is just women's advocacy and empowerment. I agree, but why do so many self-identified feminists define it as advocacy for equality? That and what you have described are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 12:25 AM
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This reminds me of the John Mayer paradox. I can see that he is not just alpha, he is the alpha; yet he appears to be anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 10:00 PM
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I think the point is that equalizing any earning disparity without equalizing any support disparity would create a less equal outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 09:42 PM
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As a guy who lifts, trains martial arts, etc, I would say that there is some ring if truth to that. Its also something I've heard more mature lifting friends and martial artists talk about in semi-jest. I'm willing to admit that my own insecurities played some non-zero role in what draws me toward this lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 09:32 PM
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Mansplaining is just an ignorant, bigoted term that intends to associate a universal negative with a particular class. It is just like "Jewing down" or "black-buying".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 09:14 PM
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This is true, but there are plenty of bullshit funding-bait 'studies' that make sweeping generalizations based on small, flawed surveys or experiments. They usually come from certain departments at universities or advocacy organizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 06:46 AM
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It sounds like this is something that you would have discussed quite frequently and thoroughly by that point. I would guess you make your feelings on this type of thing abundantly clear early on so your SO would probably not try to spare your feelings and you probably wouldn't be asking such questions lightly. Just a guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 06:33 AM
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life has personally shown me that the "artsy skinny guy" is in reality a turn-off for self-avowed feminists. I think that there are going to be a lot of regional influences to this. Ive lived in cities where scrawny, nerdy guys with tight jeans pulled a lot of women of all types. To say they were in fashion would be an understatement. Being en vogue seems to carry water no matter who it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:09 AM
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Oh, man. Be ready to catch the fangs after saying something like that.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 09:04 PM
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I think its telling that the boys need to learn to play the girls' game. That in itself is a huge disadvantage.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 09:01 PM
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I would bet that this played a significant part. If you have a petition going against you, just make a few fake accounts and call yourself some nasty names. Petition gone.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 06:29 PM
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I feel like bears shit in the woods...
/r/MensRights08/05/16 08:04 AM
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But if the father chooses to leave and start a family that is actually his, he would still be forced to support the other man's child. In that case he is no more connected to that child than a complete stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:21 PM
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But this type of logic isn't about fairness, it's all about maximizing the return. Then why not just pick a random person off the street and force them to support the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 03:56 PM
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I don't see how we fucked Cuba up any worse than Mexico. Our tax-payer subsidized corn prices are what drove the gigantic Mexican corn industry out of business. Likewise, our appetite for drugs and asinine drug war is what put the cartels in power.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 05:27 PM
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Politics of the era. The entitlement to citizenship for Cubans was established during the cold war as a way to combat Castro and communism. I seriously doubt anyone gave a shit about the average Cuban when making that decision.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 05:25 PM
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This isn't the first time I have heard a 1st or 2nd generation Cuban immigrant castigate Mexican immigrants for not going through the legal channels. I gotta say I don't find it all that convincing because those Cubans didn't do anything personally to deserve an express ticket through the immigration process.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 02:10 PM
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great blouses This is where I've been going wrong. I'm going to start a movement called TGB. Its like TRP but all about having great blouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:19 PM
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If you look at his list of sexual conquests, he is not just an alpha, he is the alpha. The issue I was raising is that he obviously doesn't lift, he doesn't present himself as a dominant personality and generally doesn't resemble a "Chad" at all. Lots of RP literature speaks very authoritatively about what the rules are and what you must do in order to be an alpha. John Mayer doesn't fit that mold at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:07 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3i1fin/is_john_mayer_an_alpha_or_is_mastery_in_the_art/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:00 PM
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I asked the same question about John Mayer several months ago and received a lot of salt and stank over it. My opinion is that Alphaness in the sense of lifting and all of the other authoritatively prescribed rules is just one possible form of Flyness; and not even the most powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:55 PM
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OK It's not cherry picked. I've seen this sentiment all over TRP. The reason it is cherry-picked is that you are probably only noticing examples that confirm the beliefs you already want to hold. At the same time, you are probably ignoring all of the examples that are contrary to the beliefs you want to hold. People troll and false-flag all over the place. Unless you have some evidence that what you are describing is pervasive, it is more appropriate to say "I saw someone on TRP who said xyz..".…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:50 PM
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You are a member of a hatesub. Which subs are hatesubs in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:44 PM
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This sounds like a very impressionable young man read one book and fell hard for it, then took a gender studies class and fell hard for it. I read them and it didn’t take long for my men’s rights beliefs to start falling away. They didn’t stand up to all the empirical evidence I was finally reading — research that was informed by feminist theory and offered actual solutions. What is conspicuously absent here is any clue as to what "empirical evidence" he is talking about. I don't see any reason …
/r/MensRights15/04/16 11:26 PM
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I don't think that simply a verdict of not-guilty should be automatically considered a guilty verdict for false accusation. However, if it can be proven that a rape accusation was false, there should be very severe criminal penalties and an opportunity for a civil suit as well.
/r/MensRights14/04/16 06:43 PM
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I feel like there was a strong implication of his exhaustion throughout, as if he was dragging himself through this after work, cleaning, etc.
/r/MensRights14/04/16 04:47 PM
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You should consider editing the OP to reflect that.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 11:56 PM
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You're just jacking yourself off to some rage-porn. There's no more rational thought to your bullshit than the bullshit spewed by the bat-shit man-haters we criticize.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 11:54 PM
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just the word of a female, creatures with limited capacity for rational thought and a tendency to lie. This is horseshit. I'm sure you've had bad experiences with women, but now you are spouting trash that is as bad as anything that has come out of Big Red's mouth. This ain't the place.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 11:44 PM
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There are other video hosting sites, but none will ever be what youtube is or anything close. It would still be a very good idea to start backing videos up so that nothing is lost if youtube decides to start wiping videos out.
/r/MensRights12/04/16 03:55 AM
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Just like I know what a person who says, "I could care less" obviously means. But I'm still going to point out how dumb it is. It is an implied comparison, as in "I could care less (than anyone)" It comes from the older saying: "No one could care less than I"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:25 PM
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Yep, good old Kasigi Yabu. He is one of my favorite characters ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:08 PM
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if you're selling any house for $10,000 you've got even less of a grasp on finances than you appear to have Obviously you are not from Detroit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 04:52 PM
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What a load of tripe Tripe is actually really good in Pho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 04:31 PM
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In this case the women's team generates $20M more than the men's team, but the women are paid almost 4X less than the men's team. I think that you are just repeating this claim without understanding it. My understanding is that they were comparing a women's world cup year to a men's non-world cup year. In apples-to-apples comparisons, the men generate much more revenue.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 06:30 PM
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Some jerk saying "just don't dress like a slut" doesn't help them at all and is insulting. Where is this actually happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:30 PM
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I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I want to have the same amount of choice as a woman. On the other hand, I worked with a guy who had 5 kids by 4 baby-mommas (at the time - probably more now), all of whom were on various forms of welfare even though he did pay some amount of child support. I don't want a guy like that to just dump his kids onto everyone else to pay for.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:58 PM
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taking your child away from Methhead Mom is right out of her stomach?
/r/MensRights01/03/16 05:36 PM
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This is extremely visible, and the popularity of Bernie Sanders' gibmes with people under 30 shows you how bad this is getting. Its not clear what you mean by this. How does supporting Sanders relate to the rest of what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:06 PM
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I agree with you, but I wouldn't accept such an anecdote as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 04:53 PM
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Lingerie was created for male sexual desire, and women were convinced [very successfully] by the industry they needed to wear these things under their clothes to look good for men. So while women may buy it because of this manufactured need, the market is absolutely for men. I think that you are misunderstanding what "the market" is and to whom the products are being marketed. Just because women are buying the products to appeal to men doesn't mean that men are the market. The people who make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 07:01 PM
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Yes. I would argue for the most part, for men. That was my point. VS fashion show is centered around appealing to women by catering to women's idea of what is attractive; then those women go out and spend money at VS to look attractive to men. [most] Women don't buy VS' entire bra and panty collection to wear every day. It's for those "special occasions." VS makes all kinds of less fancy underwear, exercise clothes, etc. Besides, lots of women wear VS underwear everyday. If their target market w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 04:50 PM
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I would guess that women spend a whole lot more money at VS than men do. The product itself was created to capture the sexual desire of men. The idea of being attractive is a powerful marketing tool. It is very prevalent in the beauty industry, of which VS is definitely a part. I heard that they actually make more money off of their body products than lingerie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:02 AM
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I just don't see how any of that is an indication that the VS fashion show is primarily for men. We know what kind of models are attractive to men just by looking at the kind of models featured in magazines and media that are unquestionably marketed toward men. Most men just aren't into skin-and-bones butts. This probably has a lot of biological drive factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:36 AM
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True, but VS models are universally much skinnier and less curvy than for publications/events that are more aimed at men. You can watch an entire VS special and not see a single butt that would qualify as even the smallest of badonks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 08:13 PM
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Would you say that a druglord is no more of an evil or cold hearted person than a postman? It depends on the druglord and the postman. The drug lord might be driving the price of weed down with his ingenuity and passion for the job. The postman might be a real dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:32 AM
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You really don't believe that the VS angel fashion show is for women do you? They would have bigger butts if it was really for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 05:14 AM
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the age of the father is as big if not a bigger influence in genetic disorders Do you have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 08:26 AM
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I went to grade school during the late 80's and early 90's, which was at the height of the hysteria and before doctors and teachers started to be educated about the dangers of over-prescription. Also, there is much more awareness about abuse of ADHD meds and prescriptions in general these days, so doctors are probably more wary of shoveling it out the way they used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:36 AM
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The problem is that these kids become utterly dependent on their clique of friends for their safety. That makes them exceptionally vulnerable to abuse and peer pressure. Besides, martial arts training will be more than adequate to teach a kid to stand up for themselves and they will learn self-discipline and self-confidence at the same time. There's no good reason to throw away their education and make them into ratty hood-kids just to teach them how to fight. Learning to fight is easy and cheap…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 11:08 PM
3

If that were the case, these neighborhoods would be churning out successful kids like crazy. They definitely aren't. Although, there may be some merit to the idea that the kids are tougher because of all of the exposure to violence, the drug trade, etc. The problem is that this kind of toughness doesn't translate into hard work, integrity or resilience. Besides, these kids aren't squaring up for a fair fight so much as they are getting a group together to jump an individual and kids with guns ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 10:55 PM
5

Maybe try spending some time with the dude and get to know him before getting involved sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 10:18 PM
3

Couples can afford it if they don't live in the upper middle class areas and choose to live in poorer areas. This brings a whole host of other problems. I'm not judging because I own a house/live in a poor and dangerous area, but the kids around here are fucking wild. All of that will rub off onto your kids very quickly, and don't get any crazy ideas about them being prepared for work or college in these shitty schools they have around here. They are basically prison-lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 09:59 PM
1

Quite the opposite, about 1/3 of my class in grade school were on them and I had to go to great lengths to avoid having them forced on me at age 9. Thank god they rely a lot less on teacher input these days, but at at the time the doctors pretty much just went along if the teacher wanted it. Beyond that I saw countless kids crushing and snorting them in high school and college, but in recent history I avoid stimulant drug enthusiasts so I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 09:53 PM
1

The problem with this is that if you give teachers a set of behaviors to look for, many of them will see it whether it is there or not. This was part of the problems with the ADHD hysteria and over-medication of the 80's and 90's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 08:39 PM
2

You have to talk to an attorney or a barrister or whatever you call them across the pond. Also, you need to document everything. Every cent or pence or whatever. You need receipts and notes to prove that you have been sending money. Over here, that isn't enough and you can get in big trouble anyway, however it will make a much better impression on people if you were still paying. Again, you have to talk to a lawyer to walk you through this.
/r/MensRights02/01/16 12:46 PM
2

Who died and made me king?
/r/MensRights02/01/16 11:33 AM
2

I think that you are not thinking about this is in the way that is going to provide the most clarity. That advice about consent is not meant to be advice at all. It is a propaganda technique and the message is not even intended for men. It's kind of like concern-trolling. Someone puts out a message under the guise of offering advice to a group; thereby implying that they are in need of such advice. The point here is to imply something insidious about men as a rallying-cry to feminists. You will …
/r/MensRights02/01/16 03:48 AM
2

This is a very interesting article, but I can't take it all that seriously. It references two studies at the bottom, but it doesn't give us any way to know what claims are attributed to what source. Furthermore, I can't find anywhere to read so much as an abstract of either article by googling the titles. Article authors totally misunderstanding research is not uncommon, and this is a heavy subject to be writing on with such a sloppy style. I'm taking this all with a big grain of salt until I ca…
/r/MensRights02/01/16 03:30 AM
1

This sort of talk doesn't help anyone.
/r/MensRights02/01/16 02:30 AM
0

That isn't really true in any state. There has to be an expectation of privacy and a teacher lecturing to a class wouldn't count anywhere.
/r/MensRights05/12/15 11:08 PM
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Even in 2 party consent states, there has to be a reasonable expectation of privacy. A teacher wouldn't have this in a classroom.
/r/MensRights05/12/15 11:06 PM
1

I feel you about jumping to conclusions but hey, its possible. My cousin's first husband was such a dirt-ball that I don't think the biggest MRA would have blamed her if she offed him.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 06:43 PM
1

The number of debates was scheduled before there were only three candidates and they were also scheduled for the lowest possible ratings. There were 25 primary debates in 2008. 25! Debate is obviously important to get past the window dressing and let candidates actually challenge each others positions. Its obvious that this is to limit Hillary's exposure. She is the only candidate with nothing to gain and everything to lose from debates. That's not how a primary should work. If the DNC doesn't w…
/r/MensRights02/12/15 06:32 PM
1

The number and scheduling of the debates.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 06:19 PM
0

Then why can't the DNC just be honest about the fact that they are doing everything they can to rig the primary in favor of Hillary? At least if they just decided not to have a primary, people could make an informed decision as to whether or not they want to remain Democrats.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 05:54 PM
5

There's nothing unelectable about Bernie himself. He is just facing an uphill battle as the DNC does everything they can to tilt the playing field in favor of Hillary. SCOTUS nominations by Trump will not be anywhere as destructive as the loss of any legitimacy in the democrat's primary process.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 02:47 PM
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Nope. The DNC has favored her and slanted the primary so much in her favor that any semblance of fairness is shot. I am a life-long democrat but I will throw my vote away with a write-in before I ever vote for Hillary.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 02:42 PM
10

This is the most important way right here. We can help by bringing publicity to the issue, but nothing will help more than a well funded legal team.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 03:37 AM
6

Because she is an adult and that is her choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 10:02 PM
1

Other subs could get away with it easily, but we have to be careful. It ain't how it should be, but it's how it is.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 03:22 PM
2

For real.
/r/MensRights22/11/15 12:47 AM
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Watch yerself. I think the mods might delete that. There was a discussion about saying her last name because of reddit's doxing policies and the eagerness to destroy this sub.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 10:59 PM
12

That's true. Hoaxes sound like they are funny and this shit was anything but.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 10:57 PM
8

Basically, her lawyer is running up the bill. A gig's a gig.
/r/MensRights21/11/15 10:56 PM
1

Perhaps in your mind....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:35 AM
2

No, you just got called out on your bullshit. You'll survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 06:27 PM
3

Please show me some examples of where someone implied that a woman deserved to be raped because of what she was wearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 02:41 PM
5

Who is making this commentary?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 12:46 PM
2

r/theredpill is a few years old subreddit with 130k subscribers. The Matrix franchise has sold millions upon millions of tickets, discs and rentals not to mention the countless additional viewings; both legal any pirated. Most people have never heard of The Red Pill/Blue Pill dynamic except as a part of the movie.
/r/MensRights02/11/15 03:53 AM
2

What I meant was that he is the arguably the biggest player in the world and he is completely opposite most of the features that people would think of as alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:11 AM
1

Take a look at John Mayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 09:49 PM
1

Graduating med school is a form of dominance in different kind competition. Still, I think a lot of what you are saying is on point. I don't believe in alpha/beta so much as more fly/less fly (in her mind), which is a much broader idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 05:38 PM
4

People haven't been talking about circumcision that long and it really is catching on. I've been surprised to meet as many women as I have who are against it.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 09:18 AM
5

If they actually spot it. A friend of mine dated a girl who got him arrested by punching herself in the face and claiming he did it. He bailed himself out and then his friends dug up her past four boyfriends. Guess what? She had pulled the exact same move on all of them, in the same city and within 5 years. The police didn't care and still proceeded with charges, so he brought all of them in to testify. She walked into the court room, saw all of them and spun on her heel and took off. The DA fin…
/r/MensRights05/10/15 02:44 PM
1

Is there an article about this anywhere?
/r/MensRights29/09/15 07:46 PM
1

That's kind of a tall order, but here are some ideas: Become a bouncer at a strip club Bartend in a big city Get involved with the music scene in a sizable city, by whatever route matches your talents. If you cant play anything, you could manage a band or venue. Find MMA schools/clubs with lots of partying guys and get serious about it. Train diligently and you will earn respect and friends. Some auto clubs do a lot of partying and don't require the commitment of a biker club.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:28 AM
1

We wouldn't call this rape if the genders were reversed, so putting that spin on this is disingenuous That's not necessarily true. Continuing to have sex with a woman who passes out during sex could definitely land you with rape charges or at least an expulsion if you are in school. Its true that it would depend on her opinion of the situation.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 03:43 AM
4

Amen. Incidentally, I would venture to say that the MRM is much more genuinely supportive of gay men than feminism (not to say that gay men are necessarily feminine or that "feminine men" are necessarily gay).
/r/MensRights14/09/15 05:38 AM
12

From the sidebar at r/menslib This is a place to discuss men and men's issues, and general feminist concepts are integral to that discussion. Our approach is intersectional and recognizes privilege as relative to the individual. It's basically an astroturf pseudo men's movement that exists under the auspices of feminism. The idea is that men's problems are a result of our inability to recognize our own privilege and self-defeating nature (toxic masculinity). Feminism and feminist ideology is, of…
/r/MensRights06/09/15 02:24 AM
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In fairness, I don't think the misdemeanor convictions are all that surprising. I believe he admitted to conduct with her that was illegal under the laws of that state. As an 18 year old engaging in sexual activity (however limited) a 15 year old in a state where its illegal, I think he survived it pretty well. Say what you will about the laws and the justice system, I think his (and Whitey Bulger's) lawyer did a solid job and he should be happy that he isn't getting thrown into a living hell of…
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 09:51 PM
1

Never said he didn't have game. He's clearly got mad fuckin game. He just seems the polar opposite to what is generally held to be specifically alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:25 AM
1

No one is saying the man isn't good. Hell, he's arguably the best. What's peculiar is that nothing about him seems all that alpha. There is nothing strong, leaderish or dominating about him. I'm not questioning John Mayer, I'm questioning the idea that desirability has much to do with the traits that are held out to be markers of alphaness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 02:23 AM
2

I recently found out that it's John Mayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 11:24 AM
2

Does that get him out of needing all of the alpha traits that are held up to be so necessary? I guess my point was that the whole alpha/beta thing is sometimes presented as if it is the only way to look at things, and I think that there are many other dimensions of desirability that are perhaps even more central.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:20 AM
1

I meant that kind of jokingly. I don't deny his talent and I enjoy all kinds of music that is easy to make fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 03:14 AM
1

Hey, don't get catty with me just because you're full of shit.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 07:21 PM
3

Our right not to be violated in our sleep is exactly the same.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 07:07 PM
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I think that it is the hypocrisy that is so offensive.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 09:24 AM
2

Accounting gets a lot more interesting when you are done slogging through the introductory classes. Investigative and fraud accounting particularly so.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/15 10:57 AM
2

No one made you click on it. If no one is interested, it will fall off quickly.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 10:47 AM
2

Its all about the numbers. Are her assertions based on legitimate data and sound logic?
/r/MensRights09/08/15 07:00 AM
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Loss of due process for men and the misrepresentation of statistics/data by feminists.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 03:53 AM
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It sounds like you are just projecting your own negativity onto some idea you have of women as a whole. This is just as dumb as when people act like white men are all one mass of people. Yes, some women do the things that you describe, but your generalizations are erroneous.
/r/MensRights02/08/15 03:10 AM
3

I don't get it either, but I am very passionate about the idea that everyone has their crank and as long it involves consenting adults, they should do what they can to get it turned.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 01:00 AM
1

Don't take it personally. They even ban feminists who dare to question the dogma.
/r/MensRights20/07/15 07:11 PM
2

Don't worry. So was TLC.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 10:08 AM
1

I was told that there's something women like about a pickup man.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 10:06 AM
3

Its true. I've never said yo 40 times.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 10:01 AM
1

Did she buy the tape measure too? Why would she need that to replace locks?
/r/TheRedPill18/07/15 07:29 AM
6

Careful, sex from the horse's mouth is still illegal in 23 states.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/15 07:00 AM
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In general, they only fight for the rights of the prostitute and still advocate for the johns getting arrested.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 06:49 PM
2

How do you keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 01:51 AM
3

Karen Straughan mentions this in the video she made shortly after they got kicked out of the expo (I think). She said something to the effect that PUAs shouldn't knock MRAs because if a PUA ever winds up facing a rape or assault allegation, it will be an MRA that gives a shit about him and helps him to get a fair shake; not another PUA. I don't get why anyone in their position would have any reason to throw shade. Its probably a matter of not really understanding what MRAs are about and the forc…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 08:47 AM
1

I don't want to interfere in their life any more than I want anybody interfering in mine. As long as everybody gets a fair and reasonable treatment under a fair and reasonable system of laws, everybody gets to be whatever kind of asshole they are called to be.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 08:41 AM
3

I believe that a man can still be held responsible for child support, even if all of his parental rights are terminated. This is especially so if the mother applies for state aid.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 02:51 AM
4

Does the birth mother have to pay child support?
/r/MensRights12/07/15 12:17 AM
8

With enough rum, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:23 AM
1

We should just try to make sure /r/MensRights is a safe place for all Careful, some people have batshit ideas about what makes a place " "safe" or "un-safe".
/r/MensRights11/07/15 12:23 AM
3

Its like the classic ink-blot test. It can mean anything you want so the description says a lot more about the person describing it.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 09:21 PM
4

Guard the fire alarms and make sure you record everything.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 08:19 PM
1

At this point, do nothing and document everything. Send yourself periodic emails with your notes and all related documentation so you have a time-stamp. Focus on becoming valuable to the company and think defensively. If shit hits the fan, you will have plenty of material for a lawyer. Until then, just rack up experience and good performance reviews. Life in business often sucks for the younger years.
/r/MensRights02/07/15 11:47 AM
4

The first thing I thought when I saw this was that all of those sound like things that women say about other women.
/r/MensRights01/07/15 03:03 AM
4

I think he was saying that it is sad that he felt he needed to make the safe answer.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 06:19 PM
3

For real. I partially blame the mods for never putting anything in the sidebar.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 07:40 PM
3

Good article. There hasn't been any kind of causal link established between older fathers and mental health problems. I personally think that the children of older fathers are more likely to be diagnosed with a mental health issue because they will likely have a higher economic status and therefore better access to healthcare and screenings.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 06:51 PM
2

Amen.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 06:42 PM
1

Gotta say I'm not a fan of the required email confirmation.
/r/MensRights21/06/15 06:43 AM
1

Word up, gangster! I have been looking for something like this for a long time. This sucker should go in a sticky!! Ya hear that, noble Mods? Sticky this, we beg of ye!
/r/MensRights18/06/15 07:46 PM
3

We really need something in the sidebar about archive links
/r/MensRights18/06/15 06:42 PM
1

Do anyone else notice that she is 43 and there is an injunction preventing her from using the eggs until all appeals are exhausted? If the state supreme court hears the case and decides against him, he could theoretically appeal to the US supreme court. That could all take another 3-4 years. A pregnancy under these circumstances would be a very, very high-risk pregnancy now, let alone 3-4 years from now.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 05:35 PM
2

He did not sign any such document. They had different versions of an oral agreement.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 05:28 PM
2

If you do decide to have sex with a guy right away, be ok with the fact that you may never see him again. This is a mature way to look at it. Male or female, no one is violating you or victimizing you for not wanting something long term. Ya both had a fling. If that is empowering, great. If it makes you feel bad, you might reconsider having sex before getting a better sense of who a person is. If this keeps happening to you, time for some counseling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/15 12:25 AM
2

This is why we should be using archive links for this sort of thing. Everyone who visits their page gets them paid.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 06:48 AM
11

encourages emotionally abusing and cheating on your wives I also think that that was a straw-man. You are not completely without basis in sating that; its just not a fair characterization of their philosophy or a fair assumption to make about red-pillers in general. More to the point of calling it a straw-man, it seems like attacking a tangential argument that no one was making rather than addressing the user's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 10:37 PM
8

Just to throw in my two cents, I can certainly understand the negative feelings, but for me it takes the form of feeling bad for the woman or embarrassed for them. I think feeling insulted is more than a little bit cuntish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 10:30 PM
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consent cannot be freely given to an act that can lead to something as inherently harmful (to their mind) as pregnancy. Does that mean that they think women aren't mature enough to understand the ramifications of sex and pregnancy? (Serious question)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 10:23 PM
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I was talking about propaganda like the 1-in-5 myth. There are lots of intelligent people who simply believe them without making any effort to think critically and walk around deluded as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/15 07:33 PM
6

8-25 seems excessive to me too. I suppose if she is a model prisoner, she could be out in 5 years or so. 25 for this is over-the-top.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 01:00 AM
5

They're mostly deluded I think that a good amount of this comes from otherwise intelligent people who hear misrepresented statistics and other propaganda and simply believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/15 12:38 AM
43

Manspreading Public Enemy #1
/r/MensRights01/06/15 10:29 PM
2

I don't get it either, and it isn't just men. A lot of women have a problem with it too. It's just a boob and there is nothing sexual about it.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 10:19 PM
1

I don't see the problem with a woman breast-feeding in public. Its not a big deal. Some states have laws expressly allowing it. If this guy couldn't get over it, then he is the one that needs to leave.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 10:17 PM
2

Without anything in the sidebar explaining archive links, its hard to blame them for not knowing any better.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 08:56 PM
2

How can we take care of this problem? We are way overdue for some kind of action from the mods on this.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 08:56 PM
4

Its about damned time something went in the sidebar about this. We are only encouraging this crap by helping them make money on clicks.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 08:54 PM
1

Being emotional doesn't make you weak. Giving a fuck what others think, and wanting approval from others to feel/express your emotions makes you weak. Often my good friends make me laugh so hard I start tearing up. Sometimes I start tearing up during a movie. Thinking about my dearly departed dog enough can do the same. I don't give two shits about anyone's approval of any of this. I live my life as I choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 07:37 PM
11

We need something in the sidebar about this.
/r/MensRights28/05/15 05:06 PM
2

It should really be limited to public reporting about confessed false accusers or people who have been at least charged with a crime for the false report. This doesn't cover anywhere near all false reports of course, but it is the only way to do it ethically.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:21 PM
1

Isn't archiving a type of piracy? It depends how you use it. Preserving a copy of a published article for the purposes of critique and discussion would be fair use. I think we will be fine.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:09 PM
2

Sounds like the right move
/r/MensRights26/05/15 04:19 AM
2

There is no way that mattress weighs 50 pounds. That just goes to show how little the media vetted any of this. Try a 50 pound dumbbell at the gym and tell me she was carrying that over her shoulder.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 10:35 PM
5

One story about the controversy drew upward of 2,500 comments on Reddit before moderators locked the thread; one moderator told my colleague that the conversation had devolved into calls to “rape her in the cunt with a chainsaw” and could not be revived. I followed that post and I really doubt that any significant number of comments were anything like that. By that rational, anyone who wants to shut down a discussion can just pose as an extreme caricature of their opposition and say the craziest…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 09:55 PM
8

For real. We shouldn't be helping this crap make money.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 09:17 PM
10

We are way overdue for having something about this in the sidebar.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 08:59 PM
12

If you are still in a position to grade her papers, there's a conflict of interest there. Otherwise, 20 year olds are adults and its really not this lady's business to judge them or the professor for any boning.
/r/TheRedPill21/05/15 11:53 PM
2

This all represents historical feminism.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 09:59 AM
1

Here is a guess: Feminists often speak of body-shaming issues as if they are perpetrated exclusively upon women by men or by women who have "internalized" misogyny. This picture goes to show that society can make men feel very bad about their bodies too.
/r/MensRights04/05/15 07:52 PM
2

Does anyone know how to archive this to a mirror so the original is perpetually available if it does get taken down?
/r/MensRights29/04/15 02:16 AM
2

I don't see much in the way of protesters. Is this about the one girl who asked the question at the end?
/r/MensRights29/04/15 02:12 AM
1

This is really more of a /r/mensrants kind of post.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 02:08 AM
2

Wait a minute. Is this a case where one girl sent a nudie pic to one guy, who then sent it to others, who sent it to more and put it online? If that is the case, then the title is pretty click-baity.
/r/MensRights28/04/15 02:03 AM
3

I believe it is linked under "complaint" in the OP.
/r/MensRights27/04/15 10:38 PM
7

Even then they stay kinda guilty. Most people still think the guys were the perpetrators and the stripper was the victim in the Duke lacrosse case.
/r/MensRights26/04/15 10:52 PM
1

I disagree'theres no such thing as rape' that the MRA is claimed to have said 'unless the victim is male' Who made such a claim? Please be aware that there are many, many lies and myths spread by vitriolic feminists. Don't believe anything unless you can find solid research to back it up. No matter where you are, if anyone gets angry at you for questioning a claim, know that they are trying to control you. If you want to know about us, take some time and do some research. You have to put the eff…
/r/MensRights26/04/15 07:23 PM
3

Is this serious? Assuming it is, I hear you and I can see the injustice on a certain level. However, this club probably doesn't receive any government funding and I don't think it is outside of their rights as a business to decide something like this. At the end of the day, in this world and this time, all girls on the bar makes the club look cool and dudes on the bar shatters the image. It just doesn't work. To be entirely honest, I would prefer to go to a club that held this policy. I just don…
/r/MensRights26/04/15 08:57 AM
1

I think that is a fair attitude to take toward the situation. It would also have been the fair attitude to take toward her initial accusations. To be clear though, she did report it to police, she just didn't cooperate with them. By that time she had a publicist and was absolutely drawing as much attention to this as possible. I have a hard time believing that she was too naive or traumatized to cooperate with the police when she was using her considerable political and media savvy to make herse…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 08:37 AM
1

At the very least, anyone who wants to hold an opinion about this should read both sides of the story. Emma's side was widely published (largely without question or scrutiny) over the last 1-2 years. Paul's side can be found here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/262956362/Nungesser-Filed-Complaint#scribd
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 12:42 AM
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I don't want anyone to be falsely accused but I do want justice for victims. The answer to this is actually pretty clear: substantive due process. Hysterical lynch mobs acting on conjecture and lies don't give anyone any kind of justice at all. It is not just the false accusers that make it hard for genuine rape victims to come forward. The real problem are the people who are eager to promote even the most questionable allegations to grind their own political axe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:55 PM
3

If you are unwilling to read all of the information that is widely available, you shouldn't castigate others who do put the effort forth and then develop an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:51 PM
13

So did she lie? She certainly lied when she said that she chose not to go to court because of how long it would take and what a negative experience it would be. The reality was that the police were unwilling to press any charges against him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:49 PM
1

Her account of that is pretty sketchy. She also has a history of lying at this point so we can't put too much weight in her anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 11:46 PM
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I know, I didn't think you said anything about our gay brothers being unwelcome. It is a myth that feminists tend to propagate about the MRA movement, so I wanted to make it absolutely clear not just to you, but for the benefit of everyone. Gay men face some of the worst of the discrimination against men out there. I also happen to feel that feminists can be very condescending towards gay men. I have seen my female friends act towards gay men as if they are funny characters or accessories for th…
/r/MensRights25/04/15 08:02 PM
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Just to be clear, gay men are absolutely welcome in the Men's Rights movement. I have never even heard anyone suggest otherwise. Welcome aboard! We need all the help we can get.
/r/MensRights25/04/15 07:01 PM
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This is a legitimate topic of discussion with devastating consequences for real people. No one is forcing you to participate.
/r/MensRights20/04/15 08:08 PM
3

I take offense to that. I am not a random asshole on the internet. To me, I appear to be a very specific and unique asshole on the internet.
/r/MensRights20/04/15 08:06 PM
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He does have a point about how much we criticize feminists for demanding conformity. You were pretty much doing the same thing.
/r/MensRights20/04/15 02:44 AM
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Hey, I feel you. But on the other hand, this is /r/mensrights and not an echochamber like those we criticize so often. /r/MensRights strongly supports principles of free speech and /u/frankhlane can have whatever opinion he would like about the artistic merit of this comic or any other. frankhlane was not out of line for expressing his opinion. In fact, you were more out of line for talking shit about the quantity of balls he had relative to hers over it. I like her style and I will support her …
/r/MensRights20/04/15 02:38 AM
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I get what you mean, but I would fight and die before being forced into sexual slavery. So, at least for me, being shot and killed while attempting to kill those who would force me into slavery would be objectively better than being a slave....especially a sex slave.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 08:18 PM
1

Nonsense. You just got called out on your bullshit and you're trying to turn it back on me. Suggesting that we should be paranoid was truly stupid.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 08:32 PM
1

You brought up paranoia. Not me. Your words: And, we SHOULD be paranoid about misogyny when we're talking about this Edit: Heres an archive link: http://web.archive.org/web/20150417201844/http://s3.amazonaws.com/awesome_screenshot/8122093?AWSAccessKeyId=0R7FMW7AXRVCYMAPTPR2&Expires=1429302096&Signature=FDyD%2FzDlD8B%2FbjZ7Z2gkpHS%2BGHw%3D
/r/MensRights17/04/15 08:10 PM
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knullbulle gave a decent explanation for that below: It is about describing and discussing the reality we as men are living in, where the mainstream has become anti-male feminism. Because of the attitude this woman (the feminist mainstream) is displaying employers will be pushed and extorted to lower their standards for women, at the expense of better suited male candidates, and be afraid to not hire females for the fear of being attacked as sexist. However, my point was that the simple fact tha…
/r/MensRights17/04/15 03:29 PM
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And even if they did tell the recruiter, the recruiter shouldn't have told her. Most sizable companies have rules about this sort of thing.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 03:03 PM
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That's pretty much exactly what I was saying as well.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 02:53 PM
2

All good.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 02:19 PM
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A straw man argument is when someone knocks down an argument that no one is making. In this case, no one is making the argument that her outfit was in any way equivalent to a man wearing jeans and a t-shirt. The whole idea is absurd anyway because a woman's equivalent to a man's wearing jeans and a t-shirt is.....a woman wearing jeans and a t-shirt. She said she saw people who were already working there wearing jeans and a t-shirt; not other interviewees. What the established employees wear has …
/r/MensRights17/04/15 02:18 PM
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That's pretty much what most of the women wear on regular days. An interview is not a regular day.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 02:08 PM
5

I didn't make any jokes about tights. All citizens are welcome to wear tights.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 02:06 PM
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I agree that a man should not know up in jeans and a tee shirt, but I do not agree that this is a woman's equivalent of that. That's kind of a straw man because no one is saying that it was. It didn't need to be the "woman's equivalent" of jeans and a t-shirt to be inappropriate for an interview. I think that there are opportunities for employers...to show humanity rather than rigidity Maybe they showed humanity to another applicant who was on time and dressed professionally. These employers sho…
/r/MensRights17/04/15 02:01 PM
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Enough with the tone-policing. This is not a feminist hive where everyone has to watch what they say. If someone wants to discuss this in the context of men's rights, and others want to discuss it as well, then it is fine. If no one wants to discuss it, then it will get no comments and fall by the wayside.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 01:56 PM
3

I think the t-shirt is unprofessional, especially for an interview. Professional attire involves collars and buttons generally. Also, her makeup looks more appropriate for night-club than a workplace.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 01:52 PM
3

I think her recruiter told her, not the company.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 01:48 PM
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That really doesn't really apply to the situation. What matters is if this company expects people to dress professionally for interviews. It would not be unreasonable or out of the norm if they did.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 01:44 PM
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Most places, even multinational companies, are not really strict in this sense, especially with programmers. You don't have to be lying for it to be nonsense, but in this case I think it falls more in to the category of "diarrhea of the mouth". No matter what your experience has been, your anecdotes are not anywhere near adequate to determine that this company didn't expect her to wear more professional attire for her interview.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 01:42 PM
1

You're the one advocating for paranoia.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 06:00 AM
1

That doesn't have anything to do with being "paranoid about misogyny". Besides, this is a sub that strongly values free speech. If you don't like what someone has to say or the way they are saying it, go ahead and challenge their ideas with your own.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 04:49 AM
1

A state of paranoia is one of irrational fear and delusion. If I need to explain to you why that is a bad thing, you wouldn't understand anyway.
/r/MensRights16/04/15 11:13 PM
1

And, we SHOULD be paranoid about misogyny when we're talking about this... This is one of the few places that isn't paranoid about misogyny. Let's keep it that way.
/r/MensRights16/04/15 09:42 AM
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You might find such posts annoying, but you can't say that they don't have a legitimate place in a discussion about men's rights.
/r/MensRights16/04/15 09:40 AM
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/r/MensRights strongly supports principles of free speech. If you have a problem with what someone is saying or the way they are saying it, go ahead and challenge their ideas with your own ideas. My issue with this post is the implication that this sub needs this advice for its own good or for any other reason. The problem is that these things makes us look bad. It makes people not take us seriously. And it gives the feminists good points to use against us. This is not just a concern-troll, its …
/r/MensRights16/04/15 09:29 AM
12

Yea she implied the little kid might have been the "aggressor"
/r/MensRights16/04/15 02:03 AM
2

Sounds like more concern-trolling to me. Just let it be.
/r/MensRights15/04/15 04:56 AM
5

This post is one giant concern-troll. Let the chips fall where they may.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 07:59 PM
2

Of the syphilis...
/r/MensRights14/04/15 12:10 AM
1

Ah, I see what you mean.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 11:55 PM
0

This discussion is about whether special parking spots for parents (of either gender) with young children is a good thing. To be fair, this discussion is about gender discrimination against male parents. The store was clearly discriminatory against OP because.....penis.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 11:38 PM
1

You missed the point. I agree that there is rationale for reserving spots for parents who need them. That is not what the store did. They reserved spots only for female parents. There is no more rationale for discriminating against male parents than there is for discriminating against black parents or gay parents or left-handed parents etc.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 11:36 PM
3

See, you mentioned parents with young kids. This store accommodated women with young kids only. According to this store, men with young kids can basically go get fucked.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 09:50 AM
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You missed the point entirely. The sign at the store was not for parents with small children. It was only for women-parents with small children. The point being discrimination based on gender.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 09:49 AM
2

In that case it's ok. Who wouldn't want to be groped by that wax-sculpture?
/r/MensRights13/04/15 06:36 AM
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But ths subreddit acts like sexism only exists if it's against men. That is absurd. Everything you just said is absurd and no one is buying it. Go back to TwoX or some other circlejerk where they will appreciate your bullshit.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 05:13 AM
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By that rational, they could put a sign up that said "White Moms and Tots Only". Hey, that's probably the segment they want in there most.
/r/MensRights13/04/15 05:09 AM
1

Because vaginas run the place, eh?
/r/MensRights12/04/15 09:05 AM
1

He should just use the classic prenup buster: "I don't need to get married that badly". Besides, inheritances aren't community property unless you spend a significant amount of time managing them. He's hit anyway.
/r/MensRights12/04/15 09:05 AM
1

The most important part is the lawyers. My understanding is that if a non-expert signs a prenup without a lawyer and doesn't make any changes to the agreement, it is basically worthless. If you make changes and both sign the changes, you have a much better shot. For example if one amount of money is in the agreement, then is crossed out and a bigger amount is written in (with both signing the change), it can hold up. Otherwise, you might as well just wipe your butt with it.
/r/MensRights12/04/15 09:02 AM
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The first thing to say is that if trained soldiers sent to engage in imperial wars of aggression can be called “victims” at all, then they are victims of those responsible for the wars in which they fought. And those responsible are men. Here is a video of Hillary imploring congress to vote to authorize war in Iraq (making WMD and Terrorism claims): https://youtu.be/vwWA2ehTOrk
/r/MensRights11/04/15 06:05 AM
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I don't think people realize how much more difficult it would be to invade Iran it was to invade Iraq. They are much, much more sophisticated.
/r/MensRights11/04/15 12:43 AM
1

That's great and all, but its very incomplete.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 06:40 AM
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They start the piece out by misrepresenting the percentage of false rape accusations. That number (2-8%) is the number that are PROVEN to be false, which does not mean that the other 92-98% are necessarily true. The vast majority are never proven either way.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 02:26 AM
7

Please use an archive link for crap like this.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 01:42 AM
2

I prefer to just stick with classic Pimpology. All this red pill stuff is for youngins who need it spoon-fed to them.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 01:39 AM
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In case there was any question about ask men's audience, lets take a look at some articles that are on askmen right now (they are so over-the-top that you might think I'm kidding, but they are all real): "Who Are The Most Outstanding Women Of 2015? The Results Are In..." "Will Ferrell Was Right: Fraternities Need To Be Abolished" "6 Reasons Emma Watson Is Just Plain Awesome And Winning At Life" Why the fuck do they even call it "ask men"?
/r/MensRights04/04/15 07:26 AM
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You should really be using an archive link for drivel like this.
/r/MensRights03/04/15 07:56 AM
1

Listen, honey-baby, I've been in Corporate America since they played Willenium at the new-years party. It is waaaay better to be the boss's niece than someone more qualified who isn't related, penis or not. Nepotism isn't limited by gender in the least.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 04:00 AM
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You showed up early and came inside, even though I explicitly told you not to. This is an adult woman looking back disapprovingly at her father's actions when she was 12. Did you order your parents around like this? The issue is not about a lack of dialogue concerning racial matters. She felt her father should have been humble about being white she has a problem with him to this day because he wasn't ashamed of who he was.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 03:47 AM
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Unless said future employer is in another country or is smaller than the size of company that is subject to the quotas.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 03:38 AM
1

So you are talking about nepotism and family connections? That is a long way from "simply by virtue of the fact that they have a penis..."
/r/MensRights29/03/15 03:36 AM
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How is it not what happened here? She is positively castigating him for not being apologetic about his race. No one would ever humor this if the races were reversed. Just looking at the salon story shows that she still thinks he was wrong to pick his daughter up without being ashamed of his skin color. Can you imagine a 12 year old mixed-race daughter telling her black mother that she shouldn't come in to a salon to pick her own daughter up because she would be ashamed of her mother's black skin…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 03:33 AM
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Is he racist against Asians or naw? If he writes an article acting like his mother did something wrong for being Asian, then yes, of course he would be racist.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 03:02 AM
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What a spoiled, racist brat. He was clearly there for her and he didn't abuse her. She is lucky as all hell to have a father at all, let alone one who obviously gave a shit the way he did. She should spend some time with people who had real problems growing up.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 02:58 AM
1

At the very least, he would have needed a better penis and a better golf game than all of the other golfing penises who where competing for the same position.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 02:43 AM
1

When she applies for another job, there wont be any way for her potential new employer to know if she actually had that last job because she was qualified for it or if it was just because of her organs. A man in the same position will be assumed to have been qualified.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 02:40 AM
2

Great. Lets take it out on the Janitor who had nothing to do with this stupid decision.
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:39 PM
2

Even the middle east is much more of a plutarchy than any sort of patriarchy. Men don't have it very good at all in the middle east unless they are rich. Poor men likely have it much worse than poor women. Poor men and boys are often used as slave labor and never have a chance to marry. When the richest men have 10 wives, that doesn't leave much for the poor men.
/r/MensRights28/03/15 06:26 PM
2

Ah. I see what you mean.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 05:33 PM
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One of the things about terms like "patriarchy", "privilege" and "rape culture" is that they don't have a specific definition. This is what makes them so effective for folks using them to grind a political ax. Whenever these ideas are contradicted, the definition is simply changed, on the fly, by whomever is using them. If there were standard definitions for these ideas, then they would be subject to refutation. Can you give us a standard definition of "patriarchy theory" such that it would be g…
/r/MensRights27/03/15 05:29 PM
1

That doesn't sound "better" to me. That sounds like women would have twice the options that men would.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 04:10 PM
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"Patriarchy" is an amorphous boogeyman that justifies a constant victim-narrative for the folks who pedal it. There is no scientific or academic merit to the idea at all. It is simply a rhetorical device to justify group-think and avoid holding ideas to basic standards of logic and reason.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 03:42 PM
2

shitty feminists that shout louder than everyone else. That's what feminism has become. Any other types of feminism have surrendered the movement to the crazies. Any reasonable feminists that are left have no voice in the movement and stand meekly in the shadows.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 03:35 PM
2

Those pictures are totally staged.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 04:57 AM
2

That's all well and good, but I'm more curious about the rules of reddit as a whole. Can mods from any sub secretly ban people who have ideas they find threatening? I get the complaints about 2x, but this speaks more to the validity of reddit as a whole.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:46 PM
2

Fair enough, but shouldn't the practice of shadow-banning and the criteria of getting shadow-banned be open and public? Why would they go to the trouble of hiding their actions?
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:43 PM
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Fair enough, but this is a free country and I get to waste my precious time as I please. Besides, they didn't ban me. Getting banned involves receiving a message from the mods and you can't make any more posts. All of my posts look fine when I'm logged in. When I log out they all disappear. If they shadow-ban for having ideas that they don't like, they should be honest about the practice and the criteria.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:27 PM
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I can post here just fine. They didn't ban me openly, but a few hours ago my posts to /r/twoxchromosomes started appearing only to me. I thought something was up when I wasn't getting any responses and not even any votes either direction. When I log out, all of my posts disappear. I just recently messaged the mods of that sub and the admins of reddit, but so far I haven't heard anything back.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:20 PM
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Did they give you the "mansplaining" explanation, or were you simply shadowbanned without explanation?
/r/MensRights24/03/15 08:18 PM
2

Forced confabulation. People want the approval of a group so badly that they will create new memories to please them. At that point they aren't even lying anymore....they just have a soft grip on reality.
/r/MensRights22/03/15 05:28 PM
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The Bar Card.....Yea old license to steal
/r/MensRights22/03/15 05:26 PM
3

Document. Document. Document! Send yourself periodic emails with notes and documents just to give yourself a time-stamp. Make a time-line of events and update it regularly. If you file a complaint or send an email, put a copy in your emailed notes.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 08:41 AM
2

We really need to do better on this as a sub. We send too much traffic to publications we intend to criticize. Maybe it is time for something on the side-bar?
/r/MensRights15/03/15 07:48 PM
2

As a sub, we need to do a better job in terms of spreading the word about archive links.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 10:31 PM
2

They included a quote that was pretty far removed.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 07:05 AM
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When she starts calling you "sir", you are in deep shit.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 05:29 AM
2

In fairness, its hard to abuse or even be accused of abusing a child you got cut off from years ago.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 05:29 AM
2

I remember the news stories in the 90's about how much she made. Part of the deal was that she owns a share of the show and it costs almost nothing to make, but still had a huge daily audience.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 05:28 AM
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People who make the "false rape claims are extremely rare" claim usually cite the 1996 fbi report as evidence. All that report said was that 8% of reported rape allegations are designated "unfounded" by the police while 53% are designated "cleared" and the remaining 39% are never designated either way. Designating an accusation "cleared" can mean anything from an arrest being made to "the victim's refusal to cooperate with authorities". It never even makes any claim as to what percentage of rape…
/r/MensRights01/03/15 06:54 AM
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There is no glory to being raped, in fact the victims I know are hesitant to talk about it all, for fear of either being blamed or being shamed Check out the mattress lady
/r/MensRights01/03/15 06:51 AM
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Do you have a source (not wikipedia) to evidence that this is actually a pervasive problem?
/r/MensRights28/02/15 11:46 PM
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it's socially acceptable for older men to grope younger women Do you have a source for this? I'm not saying you are wrong but it sounds so absurd that it couldn't possibly be true.
/r/MensRights28/02/15 11:44 PM
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Document everything that happened and send it in an email to yourself to get a time-stamp. Then, talk to a lawyer.
/r/MensRights28/02/15 11:32 PM
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Who the hell wouldn't? Arrriba!
/r/MensRights27/02/15 07:48 PM
2

Watch out for the recording laws in your state before recording anything. You won't be able to use them if they are illegal.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 08:36 AM
1

This is good advice. You should send yourself periodic emails with your notes so you can verify that you made them consistently and didnt make them all at once.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 08:35 AM
1

Could you please elaborate on what you are saying? I'm not getting your point.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 04:38 AM
2

Yeah, that's fucking right, that's the whole god damn point you fool. Cocaine used to be used for some of the same disorders as MPH and amphetamines (narcolepsy, depression) but it turns out that it's neurotoxic and has much more addictive potential that those. So now we use the better alternatives. You are all kinds of confused. The point is that Methylphenidate (Ritalin) makes permanent changes to the reward centers of the brain, sometimes even worse than cocaine. That is a long way from "very…
/r/MensRights26/02/15 09:24 PM
3

That doesn't mean that it is the only solution for those boys, and it certainly doesn't mean that it isn't over-used generally.
/r/MensRights26/02/15 08:41 PM
3

"Methylphenidate, which is thought to be a fairly innocuous compound, can have structural and biochemical effects in some regions of the brain that can be even greater than those of cocaine," -Dr.Yong Kim (Study linked below) NIDA Study Shows That Methylphenidate (Ritalin) Causes Neuronal Changes in Brain Reward Areas "children who are misidentified as having ADHD and subsequently placed on prescription drug therapy could face possible impaired brain performance as adults." http://www.sciencedai…
/r/MensRights26/02/15 08:37 PM
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Ritalin isn't exactly a harmful drug "children who are misidentified as having ADHD and subsequently placed on prescription drug therapy could face possible impaired brain performance as adults." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041220013546.htm "Methylphenidate, which is thought to be a fairly innocuous compound, can have structural and biochemical effects in some regions of the brain that can be even greater than those of cocaine," -Dr.Yong Kim (Study linked below) NIDA Study Shows…
/r/MensRights26/02/15 08:34 PM
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This isn't scientology propaganda. The point of the article isn't that no one can be helped by stimulant meds, the point is that they are being horrendously over-used to the extent that it is a form of abuse; particularly upon boys. The scientology shit is your own projection.
/r/MensRights26/02/15 08:16 PM
1

I am very big on archiving, but I think in this case it is good for this article to get clicks. They are still allowing comments on this article's page.
/r/MensRights16/02/15 09:00 AM
1

Where does it say which university it is? It isn't doxxing or anything like it. A university is not a private person. It is a public institution so the whole doxxing idea doesn't apply at all.
/r/MensRights10/02/15 03:53 PM
3

Please do this, or at least post the university name so someone else can. EDIT: Thanks to another poster below, we now have a link: http://uorec.uoregon.edu/fitness/strength-and-conditioning/
/r/MensRights10/02/15 03:18 PM
2

Possibly, but that is difficult and expensive to prove. If she doesn't have a ton of money, he wont be able to find a lawyer to take the case on contingency.
/r/MensRights05/02/15 09:05 PM
1

This question has been asked soooo many times and in soooo many ways. Of course, trans-men are welcome in the discussion.
/r/MensRights29/01/15 10:49 PM
5

Please do that.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 02:05 PM
0

That is ridiculous. Knocking this guy for saying he needs feminism is not at all the same as knocking a guy for expressing emotion or even femininity.
/r/MensRights27/01/15 03:15 AM
2

The problem with that thinking is that we do not see any push-back from the peaceful and reasonable feminists that are out there. The public discourse about feminism has been totally dominated by the extreme and hateful feminists to the point that it seems like the reasonable feminists don't even exist. At some point we need to accept that while there may have been a more reasonable age for feminism in the past, it is largely over now. They have surrendered the ideology to the vitriolic, hateful…
/r/MensRights25/01/15 07:07 PM
2

The male tears thing isn't a serious statement, but it is usually a sincere expression of vitriol towards men.
/r/MensRights25/01/15 06:39 PM
1

You need to rub a swab inside the cheek. It is mildly rough so it will wind up with skin cells on it.
/r/MensRights24/01/15 09:50 AM
9

There's nothing wrong with lesbians in general. I've had several lesbian friends and I've worked with more. These are psycho abusers who happen to be lesbian and tailor their psycho abuse to their psycho belief systems.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 11:06 AM
2

Usually there needs to be an "expectation of privacy" even in two-party consent states. I doubt that the teacher has an expectation of privacy when addressing 30 students. Also, it is very rare that someone gets charged with wiretapping unless they really mislead someone about the privacy of a meeting. Those laws are usually just used to disqualify evidence in civil cases.
/r/MensRights23/01/15 10:58 AM
1

I think that the blog post you cited is a little light for making the case that the ACLU would oppose this measure.
/r/MensRights22/01/15 10:47 AM
5

mentally ill people who don't know what sex they are Everyone has a right to be whomever the fuck they want to be and that includes people who want to call themselves LGBT. If it isn't to your liking, that's your prerogative but saying they are mentally ill is bullshit.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:41 AM
1

This sub holds free speech in high regard and I doubt that anyone "had recently been banned from the subreddit for posting LGBT-positive content". If we can't see proof on that, I think we can assume that it didn't happen as described if it happened at all. Openly gay men participate in these discussions regularly. And yes, everyone is entitled to be treated equally including gay and trans people.
/r/MensRights21/01/15 10:36 AM
7

Get a recording device and bring it to class, then publish the recording and file a complaint with your states dept of education and the federal dept of education. They have easy online forms to file complaints (at least the fed does).
/r/MensRights21/01/15 05:51 AM
7

Perhaps a public service announcement with George Clooney?
/r/MensRights16/01/15 08:02 AM
9

I think it was pretty clear that he was being sarcastic
/r/MensRights16/01/15 04:59 AM
1

An investigation was conducted and he was cleared......whatever that means.
/r/MensRights13/01/15 04:51 AM
5

use a site like donotlink.com instead of linking directly to the article. This means it won't encourage them by driving revenue generating clicks to the articles we seek to criticize.
/r/MensRights12/01/15 04:08 PM
4

I'd rather be a hammer than a nail. Deep Thought Edit: If you see yourself as a nail, then every problem looks like a hammer.
/r/MensRights08/01/15 03:54 AM
2

Its not my article, I just saw it linked elsewhere and found it interesting.
/r/MensRights07/01/15 08:33 PM
1

Just ignore him. This guy seems to follow Karen around posting the same link under different usernames.
/r/MensRights07/01/15 03:53 AM
2

The one on paltik guns from the Philippines was good too.
/r/MensRights07/01/15 03:31 AM
1

Those shaming tactics may work for some, but they don't work for everyone. Absolutely. These same tactics will work incredibly well in many circles, but around here an argument's logic must hold water or it will not be taken seriously.
/r/MensRights03/01/15 11:20 PM
1

Don't pay too much attention to the whole alpha/beta thing. It is pretty much a concept-by-concept repackaging of the decades old "pimpology" anyway. Learn to love yourself and follow your passion and dreams to the fullest extent possible. Challenge yourself intellectually and physically, and ignore dumb-asses who try to impose their dichotomies on you. Also, don't rule out getting some counseling about the troubles in your childhood. No shame in talking about it.
/r/MensRights03/01/15 01:23 AM
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Be a Zeta At first I couldn't see how joining a Mexican drug cartel could address this man's issues. Upon further reflection, I wholeheartedly agree. Viva!
/r/MensRights03/01/15 01:18 AM
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Even civil cases, operating on a preponderance of the evidence, have standards of evidence, representation and due-process for the accused. You have completely missed the purpose of due process in your analogy about a woman raped at work. Due process is not intended to protect the guilty. Due process is intended to protect the innocent from false accusations. Lets try it this way: Suppose your mother is falsely accused of rape at work by a person who is mentally ill. In spite of being exonerated…
/r/MensRights03/01/15 01:15 AM
1

It seems to be buried in a two-year-old issue of their magazine (which appears to be only online) Any chance you would be willing to post this for us?
/r/MensRights31/12/14 07:30 PM
1

In the US we have "yes means yes" laws that actually enforce these kinds of asinine definitions of sexual assault on college students. This is a particularly bad example and may be satire, but the real circumstances for many American men are that this kind of bat-shitness is institutionalized.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 10:47 AM
1

But this is an example of extreme feminism, not feminism in general. Unfortunately, this is the type of feminism that is getting the response from government. Now every college that uses federal student loans is pretty much forced to operate on standards that can be every bit as ridiculous as the post in question. Please, show us some examples of "feminism in general" pushing back against this kind of stuff.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 10:42 AM
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I find posts like this to be completely unhelpful Fair enough. and they are a huge part of why this sub and the MHRM are viewed with disdain. This is over the top. It just wasn't that incendiary. /r/MensRights strongly supports principles of free speech.
/r/MensRights31/12/14 03:14 AM
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This should be its own post if it isn't already.
/r/MensRights28/12/14 09:37 PM
1

get drunk and watch sports I don't think that even this is without value to men's rights. Having a drink or a toke while enjoying music, art and entertainment can be a culture-building experience. As has been mentioned, the fact that it is a male space means that women will not have any direct control over that culture or the discourse that takes place in it. It is a free place to speak your mind. Everyone staring at a screen will happen, but the stereotype of men having no thought or discussion…
/r/MensRights28/12/14 06:25 AM
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“Frankly, it is irritating that anybody would be distracted by which statistics are accurate,” -Claire McCaskill
/r/MensRights27/12/14 10:06 AM
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This should be its own post. If no one else does it, I will.
/r/MensRights27/12/14 05:55 AM
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That's the only way I can go.....
/r/MensRights27/12/14 05:53 AM
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I was told that if you believe that women should have the same opportunities and treatment under the law, then you are a feminist. So for a while, I felt that the term applied to me.
/r/MensRights24/12/14 05:31 AM
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It was also a self-selective poll which means that it does not represent anything about the greater population.
/r/MensRights21/12/14 05:25 AM
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I would just let him know that you understand what he is going through, and that there's no shame in being sad about it. Then try to get him laid.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 02:15 AM
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Please don't give them the clicks! Use an archive link site like donotlink.com instead, please. I made one for this link: http://www.donotlink.com/cynx
/r/MensRights19/12/14 10:19 PM
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I am going to start following her work. She is very reasonable.
/r/MensRights16/12/14 11:33 PM
1

Please post this article as a direct link post. This is very good information.
/r/MensRights16/12/14 01:36 AM
3

hooooo Is that a Michael Jackson reference or a Thundercats reference?
/r/MensRights15/12/14 09:32 PM
4

It sounds like there were a lot more problems in this marriage than the disputes around christmas. If it was a toxic and unhealthy marriage, it is better for all involved if it ends.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 07:50 PM
5

In many cultures it is normal to let young teenagers drink a small amount of alcohol on holidays. I think that it is a healthier way to introduce alcohol than a complete taboo before 21, and completely opening the floodgates the day they turn 21.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 07:49 PM
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Thanks for answering. I also used to casually identify as a feminist when I thought it meant believing in equal opportunities and equal treatment under the law for women.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 07:41 PM
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I see the point that OP is making. While this isn't a 5-alarm fire in my book, I can understand how someone could be offended by the insinuation that a woman being shot is somehow more noteworthy or tragic than a man being shot.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 07:37 PM
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Props to you for wearing a kilt. That's just plain old sensible ventilation. As to your manager, the first thing I would do is step to him privately and respectfully to express your feelings on the matter. If that doesn't work, you have every right to take it up the chain.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 07:30 PM
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Go watch some Fox News.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 10:42 PM
3

It sounds like this was child molestation.
/r/MensRights14/12/14 06:09 PM
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I think that the report specifically mentioned that there was no medical need. However, rectal hydrating is real and can save your life in certain circumstances. People have survived on contaminated water taken rectally.
/r/MensRights13/12/14 11:25 PM
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I also don't believe that college students are so amoral and evil that the would ignore/condone gang rape or would ignore a girl walking through a party drenched in fucking blood.
/r/MensRights13/12/14 11:14 PM
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And the thing is, we know that victims of traumatic events have very unreliable memories of what happened to them, and quite often end up making sense of them with wholly imaginary details. This case doesn't even require any malice on Jackie's part. Memory is that fucking bad. I have been hearing this a lot, but I think that it is pretty far-fetched to apply this to Jackie's situation. With the caveat that we really don't know anything about anything, it looks as if Jackie was "catfishing" her f…
/r/MensRights13/12/14 11:11 PM
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I stand corrected. Props.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 03:57 PM
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Housework? None of that applies. Do what you want, if you want, when you want. Or don't. Ha! Ok, if you are a total dirtball and just don't clean your house or cook meals then yes, that doesn't take a lot of work. A homemaker with three kids, whom they wish to live like decent people and not dirt-balls, has a substantial job on their hands. It would be expensive to replace with staff. In a real job you have a boss. The standard of living a stay-at-home mom wishes to provide her family is the bos…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 05:01 AM
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In all fairness, housework and raising children is a tough job that should be respected. I watch my niece for 3 hours and I'm completely pooped.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:03 AM
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No offense, but Lincoln totally copied that from Bob Marley.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:00 AM
3

I'd say a good majority of "false" rape cases have SOME legitimacy to them. How did you come to that conclusion?
/r/MensRights12/12/14 03:55 AM
1

I prefer to judge a given story on its merits, but Fox News lost any credibility it had when it clipped together footage of different tea party rallies to make them look more well attended then they were. This particular piece from Breitbart didn't look to bad by me.
/r/MensRights12/12/14 03:52 AM
1

Thanks for clearing that up about the admins. While there is nothing incorrect about the way you wrote it, would you consider another edit to make that entirely clear for the benefit of less experienced reddit users who might not be 100% clear on the mod/admin decision-making dynamic?
/r/MensRights11/12/14 07:11 AM
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I don't think the anger is about a need for us to get involved, but rather the lack of freedom to discuss an article that is already out there. It was a crap article and, imho, the discussion wasn't great either. That's not the point. No one here doxxed anyone and no one likes to be told to cease an ongoing discussion. /r/MensRights strongly supports principles of free speech.
/r/MensRights11/12/14 07:02 AM
2

So to be clear, this is not the will of the /r/MensRights mods, but rather the admin overlords of reddit as a whole superseding our local mods?
/r/MensRights11/12/14 02:18 AM
3

Even if it would not be okay for her to be doxxed, it still would not be ok to censor this discussion.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 04:27 AM
1

This is already being widely discussed. We don't need to censor discussion about it here.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 04:25 AM
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This is entirely conjecture. We don't have any evidence that anything illegal or unethical happened to her at UVA.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 04:21 AM
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There are plenty of was to approach this that won't give feminists the ammunition to call us all misogynists and give police justification for more persecution of male victims. So thanks for pursuing the avenue that does the most harm to Men's Rights. Classic concern-trolling. We don't censor discussion about published articles around here.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 04:18 AM
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A lot of people who are in the news would prefer not to be, and this was a major media event. Furthermore, OP didn't link to a 4chan discussion or something. It was a news article that has been in wide discussion for more than a day, and has been reported on in several other publications. We don't have to censor discussion about this article because you don't like it.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 04:15 AM
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independently verified evidence that "something" happened Please share this "evidence" with us. There is no evidence that she is honestly expressing her memories in the first place. I don't doubt that "something" probably screwed her up in life, but that "something" may have absolutely nothing to do with, UVA, fraternities or anything we are talking about. That she had any kind of trauma having anything to do with frat boys is just conjecture pulled straight from your ass. There is absolutely no…
/r/MensRights10/12/14 04:05 AM
2

The significant difference is that the shit was already out of the horse; having nothing to do with this posting. Now OP isn't allowed to post an article that was published the day before?
/r/MensRights10/12/14 03:54 AM
1

Please post it as a new thread too.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 02:59 AM
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I believe that one was also self-selected; that is, made up only of people who are interested enough in the topic to go out of their way to participate. They contacted thousands of people to participate in a survey about sexual assault on campus, the majority of whom ignored the invitation. That doesn't count as random.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 02:57 AM
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Those were all self-selective polls, which mean that they are unscientific and do not indicate anything at all about a larger population. Also the questions were very strange, and included vague questions about having sex after drinking alcohol and being made promises that were not true. Many were counted as rape whether the respondent felt it was or not.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 02:47 AM
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had been assaulted by a group in some form This is a huge, vague step backward from having been ritually tortured, raped and maimed in an organized right of passage at a fraternity. Let it go. There is no evidence that anything happened at all. The author was eager to find a fantastic story to "illustrate the problem of campus rape". She found one so fantastic as to be absolutely absurd.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 02:02 AM
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I think the author was quoted as saying that she was searching for a story that "illustrated the problem of campus rape".
/r/MensRights09/12/14 04:11 PM
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It is not doxxing. If OP had found her info on their own and published it here, that would likely be a problem. What happened here is that the OP linked to an article that had already published her name to the world.
/r/MensRights09/12/14 04:10 PM
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This is more a situation of a customer pushing back at a business that is handling itself inappropriately and offensively. This was just a couple of tone-deaf teenagers handling themselves and their jobs unprofessionally.
/r/MensRights08/12/14 07:09 AM
4

Fox did the same thing with the footage of the tea party rallies.
/r/MensRights08/12/14 04:30 AM
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Dont give her the clicks!!! Please use an archived link https://web.archive.org/web/20141206010650/http://lacigreen.tumblr.com/post/104441923725/hey-babelies-i-wanna-talk-about-this-uva-rolling
/r/MensRights06/12/14 01:08 AM
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Still nothing about any of this on her Wikipedia page.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 07:00 PM
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I'm glad to see this being discussed in a court instead of just the media. Its harder to try to shut people down with shaming tactics in a court room and the Daubert rule prevents the use of bogus statistics.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 06:06 PM
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First of all, you need to look at the bigger picture. Your mom sounds really cool, but when someone says "I don't want to hear your opinion", it is often because they know that they are wrong, but do not want to admit it. This sounds similar to a person making the case that a minority cannot be racist. A good thing to do might be to find an article on the subject and ask her to read it.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 02:26 AM
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I know it is expensive, but your family needs and attorney very, very badly.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 12:54 PM
0

Are you saying your vasectomy caused that? I have a few close friends who had it done and they had no side effects at all.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 11:46 PM
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You shouldn't be taking medical advice from her!!! She is open about her ulterior motives. I saw a documentary about a doctor who did free vasectomy clinics all over the us and the world. Call your health insurance and tell them you want to have it done. It is very easy to get a GP and urologist off of their list and have this done quickly. You can just call Planned Parenthood if you have one. All major cities have scalpel-free vasectomy clinics where they will have both GPs and urologists on si…
/r/MensRights02/12/14 11:44 PM
5

I think you might have been raped.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 11:33 PM
2

No, she is way out of line acting like this. However, you can get a vasectomy very easily. It is cheap, effective and nearly painless. Despite ridiculous rumors to the contrary, you do not need your wife's permission. As I'm sure that they will tell you, you need to be careful until you get your sperm-count a couple weeks after the vasectomy. Withhold sex until then as pulling out is unreliable.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 06:27 PM
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What was the joke?
/r/MensRights02/12/14 04:14 PM
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A small business I worked for (as a manager) hired a woman for a job that involved receiving packages and stocking high and low shelves. It was a very physical job and that was very clear in the job listing. For the first 4 weeks she did fine, save for showing up late a couple of times. Then in week 5, she informed us that she was 5 months pregnant and acknowledged that she was aware of her pregnancy when she applied. Soon she started sitting down for large portions of her shift. We found her ot…
/r/MensRights24/11/14 06:45 PM
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Sounds discriminatory to me. Not that surprising though.
/r/MensRights24/11/14 06:09 PM
1

maybe after full examination we can see that Western feminist issues are overblown, but this is not obvious from the outset. What makes you think that Ali is only capable of seeing what is obvious from the outset? This is a brilliant and educated person. She has an advanced degree and speaks 6 languages. Being an advocate for women's rights for as long as she has, I think she has examined the issues more than enough to come to the conclusion that western feminist issues are overblown.
/r/MensRights24/11/14 05:40 PM
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If it were really true that, controlling for all factors besides gender, that women were actually paid 77% of what men are paid for the same work, then I would certainly see this as a huge issue. But that is not the case at all. As I'm sure you know, that number has nothing to do with the same work. How many times have you heard that number dropped as if it was? Today's western feminism revolves around misrepresented and unsound statistics. Just like every kind of propaganda before it, western f…
/r/MensRights24/11/14 12:42 PM
1

Sure can be. But if that is what those young men choose to do, they should have the right.
/r/MensRights24/11/14 09:24 AM
1

Sam Elliot, specifically as Virgil Earp in Tombstone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 09:12 AM
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Hugely loaded question; your damned either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 01:45 AM
1

Do you have any research to back any of this up, or is this all just your own, anecdotal impression of things? In other words, did you just pull this all out of your ass? From my experience, none of the traits you mentioned are exclusive to men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 01:43 AM
3

AAAAMEN BROTHER!!!!! I just caught the spirit.
/r/MensRights22/11/14 03:26 AM
1

Hillary certainly didn't have the lead she does now, but she was the far and away front runner. No one else even registers in the polls yet, other than Warren who said she isn't running. At this point no one has made any effort to oppose her, and I think that has a lot to do with the enormity of her lead. I doubt that the field will stay that empty as the time approaches. There is also that 2002 video of her making the exact same case to invade Iraq as Bush and Cheney did. She apologized, but it…
/r/MensRights21/11/14 01:22 PM
2

assuming she gets the Dem nomination...which she will That's what everyone said in '08.
/r/MensRights20/11/14 03:59 PM
4

Do you know if this is being sold by the original designer who gave it to the Rosetta guy?
/r/MensRights20/11/14 03:46 AM
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Uh...he's one of the greatest scientific minds of our time. Is he supposed to wear a lab-coat and carry around a bubbling beaker or something?
/r/MensRights20/11/14 02:50 AM
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That shirt is not going to get you sideways looks at an anime convention. Not in the least. http://i.imgur.com/KC5SXkW.jpg
/r/MensRights20/11/14 02:47 AM
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conversations in which one of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation. The key word here is 'party', which in this case means 'participant'. This guy was not a party to a conversation with his attackers. He was the victim of an on-going verbal, then physical assault in his own dwelling, which they entered unannounced (and in the middle of the night). Flanigan makes it clear that the desire for exclusivity must be objective…
/r/MensRights19/11/14 07:30 AM
1

Could we make a case to that effect? I am not very familiar with wikipedia's back end.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 11:31 AM
1

Thanks!
/r/MensRights18/11/14 08:12 AM
1

I would also like to know why this is stickied.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 07:32 AM
2

I think that it is also worth noting that this is a self-selective poll and therefore does not represent any population as a whole.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 07:31 AM
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California's 2-party consent law applies only to "confidential communications". Do you really think that an assailant, in the process of physically assaulting someone in their own rent-paid residence, after entering unannounced in the middle of the night, has an expectation of privacy? Besides he already published the fact that he made a video. Unless he can convince the law that he made a silent film, that damage is done. Sure, he could have been cooking meth when they busted in. In that case h…
/r/MensRights18/11/14 06:19 AM
1

Your time is water down the drain.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 05:21 AM
1

You cared enough to come here and troll.....
/r/MensRights18/11/14 03:14 AM
3

When did you get the impression that anyone cares what you think about anything at all?
/r/MensRights18/11/14 02:48 AM
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Are you a lawyer? How would you know? Edit: The point is that you are spreading misinformation to the effect that someone shouldn't post a video of their own abuse. There are no negative repercussions legally from posting your own video. If you have some sort of California legal statute that you are referencing, please share. Otherwise, please stop pretending to know what his lawyer would tell him. Besides, public awareness can put pressure on the justice system to treat him fairly, something th…
/r/MensRights18/11/14 01:11 AM
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Gender-bias on wikipedia
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:44 AM
1

Big Question: Is it that no one is trying, or is it that the attempts are being squashed by the admins? Is there any way to prove one way or the other?
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:17 AM
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I vote that this becomes UN-stickied immediately.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:13 AM
1

He could certainly post a scan of the police report. That's already public info.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:10 AM
2

At this point, no.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:09 AM
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Bullshit. He can do whatever he wants with it. It was a video he took in his own apartment.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:06 AM
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They threatened to say he hit them. He could rot in jail for days before it gets sorted out.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:03 AM
1

Maybe you should post the questions here for review.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:00 AM
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The wiki article is supposed to reflect the facts. These shouldn't be left out.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 11:59 PM
10

The questionable behavior continued for a decade. Lena was 17 for part of it. Stop trying to lie for her.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 11:58 PM
2

The point is that the wiki article is supposed to have the facts so that people can draw their own conclusions.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 11:57 PM
4

We don't have any guarantee that this process will be unbiased. For example, how do we know that questions will not be loaded such that any answer can be spun for anti-MRA purposes?
/r/MensRights17/11/14 11:16 PM
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It was still a notable media event, bitch.
/r/MensRights17/11/14 11:04 PM
2

You might consider a complaint to your university. Why not?
/r/MensRights17/11/14 10:55 PM
1

How could this not be notable? It was profiled in several mainstream publications and not just Fox News types. Are people not offering the articles or are they being shut out by the admins?
/r/MensRights17/11/14 10:06 PM
1

Regardless of the conclusions anyone might draw about the situation, shouldn't the facts be in there?
/r/MensRights17/11/14 10:04 PM
3

So is that whats happening with Lena Dunham's page? Wiki's admins are blocking the stuff about the scandal?
/r/MensRights17/11/14 01:01 PM
1

MRA's have the same access to wikipedia as anyone else, don't they?
/r/MensRights17/11/14 12:28 PM
2

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-06-01/Online-video-shows-Fort-Myers-boy-being-bullied This is the only news story I could find about it. The first fucking line says "An online video shows a prank some would say went too far. " Some would say went too far?!?!?!
/r/MensRights16/11/14 11:21 AM
1

I cant even find any news article about this.
/r/MensRights16/11/14 11:11 AM
1

Oh I thought you might be new here. No, I don't have it and the newscaster said it had been taken down. I can't find any news articles about this at all. They don't give any names but they did mention that the attackers were students at Paul Laurence Dunbar middle school and the victim was a student at Ray Potorf elementary. They also mentioned Lee County but I know that is very little to go on.
/r/MensRights16/11/14 11:10 AM
2

I think it takes power/influence to get redress for men's issues at all. At the present moment, we don't seem to have much.
/r/MensRights16/11/14 09:17 AM
4

A mother who threatens to punch her kid in the nose, and gets physical often enough that he holds her wrist back "every time this happens", clearly does not have the capacity to make decisions for anyone else. She sounds legitimately unstable and should not be in charge of anyone.
/r/MensRights16/11/14 06:17 AM
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If your mother hits you, call 911 immediately and tell them what happened.
/r/MensRights16/11/14 03:34 AM
1

Just click the title up top. It will take you right to the youtube video.
/r/MensRights15/11/14 10:26 PM
0

Frankly, no one cares what you think about anything at all; let alone anything you mentioned just now.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 03:43 AM
1

Yep, its looking like I was the last person on earth not to already know about this. Anyway, I'll leave it up just in case.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 10:39 PM
2

Is that taboo or something? No disrespect. I totally did and just thought it needed to be out there. I would have given you a credit if there was a space to. I'm more than happy to delete it if you want.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 10:14 PM
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Maybe they could teach their sister how to act like a grownup in public. That woman was clearly failed by everyone who had a hand in raising her. EDIT: Down-votes now? I guess the truth hurts. That woman had no idea how an adult should behave. Her mother, father, grandparents, etc... should all be ashamed of themselves.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 08:30 PM
1

You are avoiding the issue of this particular teacher choosing to act childishly and inappropriately in her classroom.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 08:18 PM
3

You can't report her for being a douche, but this is blatantly unprofessional in a very documentable way. Its not odd that she would hold these beliefs, but she is wild for being so blatant.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 06:37 AM
3

I'd actually make a poster a pic of her slave logo, and put it in all the male bathrooms. Interesting. Maybe this could spur some meaningful thought, debate and analysis.....while pooping.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 06:32 AM
2

This will make sure that a draft is even less likely than it already is. We all want it gone, but this is more realistic and at least the burden is shared more equally. Twice as many people subject to the draft is all the more people who will want to get rid of it.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 06:16 AM
1

While campaigning for Democratic Sen. Mark Udall in Colorado, the Massachusetts Democrat answered with a resounding “yes” when asked on CNN if male senators have treated her differently because of her gender. When asked to elaborate, Warren replied “Nope” twice, but did oblige that she didn't find her treatment surprising. This isn't really all that feminist. I don't see the big deal here. We have bigger fish to fry than this and, as someone who isn't a billionaire, I agree with a lot of what sh…
/r/MensRights12/11/14 06:12 AM
1

I would like to see a Dean/Warren ticket. I would much rather a Sanders/Warren ticket or a Warren/Anybody ticket, but I don't think they could win. Dean/Warren or even Biden/Warren would still likely beat whatever the Republicans have to offer. Then hopefully Warren could be in office for the next 16 years.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 05:42 AM
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So called "affirmative consent" (read: guilty until proven innocent) laws are bringing people out.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 05:20 AM
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Put it this way - if you lived in a world where.....(blah blah blah)....etc. then you would be offended. It doesn't matter whether or not she is offended. The problem is that she is behaving inappropriately at her job in a school. Nothing you mentioned gives her any right to create a classroom atmosphere that is insulting or hostile towards men and boys. Her students did not oppress her. It doesn't do woman-kind any good to pretend that they are so infantile they can't help but rage whatever mal…
/r/MensRights12/11/14 05:15 AM
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Magnets like this are a response to a long history of women in Western countries being treated.... The teacher is not at all justified in her actions. She is a professional and she is supposed to be maintaining professional behavior. Saying a magnet is a "response" to a history of oppression is not even logically coherent. It is an expression of her hostility, which may be a response to her feelings about history. As angry as she may be about the men in her history or the world's history, that d…
/r/MensRights12/11/14 05:01 AM
1

I agree, re-branding would suggest that these middle eastern or white PUA's and red pillers found a sector of black hip hop culture and took their concept, altered it, and presented it to a white beta audience. Would there be anything wrong with that if they did? Sounds like a very clever business model to me. Just to nitpick, Iceberg Slim, while popular in the hip-hop crowd, was more of a 60's and early 70's author that wrote about his early life in the 40's and 50's. Hip-hop really isn't the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/14 12:56 AM
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You have to be a very strange person not to see how inappropriate this is. It is entirely unacceptable for your teacher to hang this in her classroom. Here is a link to the on-line complaint form for the US Department of Education Office of Civil Rights. http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/complaintintro.html You are NOT required to make a complaint to the school first, but it will ask if you have so just check "no" and the process will continue. This is discrimination based on sex/gender …
/r/MensRights12/11/14 12:46 AM
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It is more about hypocrisy. How well do you think the opposite would go over with that teacher? Both are entirely inappropriate for a classroom. This isn't a coffee shop where people can choose to come and go. The students are forced to be there.
/r/MensRights12/11/14 12:30 AM
5

Yea that line made me cringe too.
/r/MensRights11/11/14 02:34 AM
1

I know that legal fights are a game of posturing and theater. Ive had some posturing and threats thrown my way and I've had some done on my behalf. My point isn't that Dunham's team did anything that is unheard of or even unusual in the legal sphere. The issue is her/their intent and what they tried to do. Their genuine intent was to scare this publication into silence. For someone who's work revolves significantly around the theme of what it means to be a writer, it seems hypocritical to use he…
/r/MensRights11/11/14 02:33 AM
1

That is inappropriate, sir.
/r/MensRights10/11/14 10:28 AM
2

They actually demanded that TR go to everyone they had sent the story and demand that they delete it. I know that it is common for lawyers to claim more authority than they have, but look at their intentions: They were trying everything they possibly could to scare this publication into silence. Dunham's team sought to pimp the legal system into undermining the first amendment and censuring a critical voice. The phrase "un-American" is way overused these days, but it actually applies here. No jo…
/r/MensRights10/11/14 09:09 AM
1

Well, I suppose it isn't my place to judge the next guy either way. Ultimately the responsibility lies with the biological parents, and they are both adults so that is all the law cares about as far as I understand. I was under the impression that you kind of orchestrated this whole thing (not that that changes anything legally). After re-reading I get the impression that you only watched some of the times they had sex, so who is to even say that you were present for the conception? I can see ho…
/r/MensRights10/11/14 07:33 AM
2

20 years old is more than old enough to know what happens when you ejaculate in a woman. You knew it when you encouraged him to do it, he knew when he was doing it and she knew when she chose to participate. I'm honestly very curious to know what the three of you thought would happen. How could she possibly have misunderstood? Did you think she was intending to become a single mother? How could any of you think that this was just part of a fantasy scenario when a real baby was being made in real…
/r/MensRights10/11/14 04:59 AM
4

What did you think was going to happen? You saw his dick coming in her vagina and I'm assuming you knew she wasn't on birth control. You're acting like sexy-time takes place in a different dimension. You encouraged those two to make a baby, for your pleasure, with the express guarantee that you would support it. It wouldn't have happened if you hadn't encouraged it. At the same time, the other guy is no less responsible his own actions. Morally and ethically all three of you should be splitting …
/r/MensRights10/11/14 02:20 AM
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I have no doubt that Truth Revolt is more than meets the eye, but I think a lot of people, like me, had never heard of them before this. You hit the nail on the head with the miscalculation of Dunham and her lawyers. My point was going more to the intention of Dunham and her team. Can you imagine the outrage that they would spew if someone threatened her the way that they threatened Truth Revolt? What would feminists in general say if a feminist publication was threatened by a male icon for quot…
/r/MensRights09/11/14 02:00 AM
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I think that it is also important to remember that it was not just her story that kicked this whole thing off, but her attempt at censorship. She tried to flex her money-muscle to scare a small publication into silence. Her lawyers threatened to press multimillion dollar lawsuits to force them to parrot their pre-written apology letter. Fuck Lena and her lawyers.
/r/MensRights08/11/14 11:47 PM
2

Ha! Right over my head.
/r/MensRights08/11/14 01:00 AM
4

When a big drill-instructor patriarchy rep shows up at your door and says "Have you hit your boyfriend?" You can't possibly believe this......right?
/r/MensRights07/11/14 08:30 PM
1

http://www.pubfacts.com/detail/17046412/Can-we-talk?-Importance-of-random-digit-dial-surveys-for-injury-prevention-research. "However, there are significant challenges to using RDD surveys. These include declining participation rates; possible self-selection bias, since potential respondents can choose to opt out of the survey;" Basically thousands of people get a call asking them to participate in The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey. Most of them hang up, some of them choos…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 08:22 PM
1

You can mentally masturbate in reddit all you want, but doing that won't change anything. You should post this in /r/showerthoughts
/r/MensRights07/11/14 10:38 AM
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Kissing a girl on the hand is wrong? If chivalry wasn't already dead, they just killed it.
/r/MensRights07/11/14 05:48 AM
2

This is going on a lot. A recent Time article makes the 1-in-5 claim and backs it up with The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey. You can see immediately that it also is a self-selective (slop) poll, so it is utterly unscientific and doesn't represent the whole at all. Since it was conducted by the CDC, it was paid for with tax dollars. As you might guess, one of the questions filed under Sexual Violence asked if the respondent had sex after someone pressured them by "making pr…
/r/MensRights07/11/14 05:46 AM
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Fine, go ahead and pretend that there is no difference between speed walking and what the girl in the video was doing. http://youtu.be/1PrR4PjDF8M
/r/MensRights07/11/14 05:17 AM
1

Also, if he didn't want it, he shouldn't have warn that tight shirt. :) I know, what a strumpet!
/r/MensRights07/11/14 05:02 AM
1

just be careful because feminists can be very nasty when they are proven wrong or challenged Keep your eyes open, OakmontWolf. You will win the debate on the stats if you come prepared. If that happens, you will invalidate something that she relies on to get through her life. Consider being diplomatic. Hell hath no fury......
/r/MensRights07/11/14 05:00 AM
2

Very valuable resource. Thank you. This should keep you busy. You sir, ain't whistlin' Dixie. Can you suggest any specific articles for our young comrade?
/r/MensRights07/11/14 04:50 AM
3

Please elaborate.
/r/MensRights07/11/14 12:40 AM
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I'm surprised they waited that long. Does anyone here know a place where feminists will debate their claims without holding the power to ban unilaterally? By the way, here is another article that is worth reading. It is from the late 90s, which was before the 1-in-5 myth specifically, but it talks a lot about the flaws in rape surveys and the myths that are perpetrated. Its also an academic article so it is well put together. Realities and mythologies of rape. Neil Gilbert. Society, Jan-Feb 1998…
/r/MensRights06/11/14 08:33 AM
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There are many, many online, but this one is an academic paper: http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/MythsGilbert.htm
/r/MensRights06/11/14 06:26 AM
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Let alone that the 1 in 4 stat was debunked long ago.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 02:50 AM
1

He posts feminist tripe and anti-MRA stuff there ever few weeks. I resent that. Tripe is pretty good in pho.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 02:43 AM
1

I see what you mean.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 02:38 AM
2

Just post whatever you want, wherever. When you start getting harassed by feminists, just ask them to back up their claims with research. When they give you the canned talking point statistics they heard on Jezebel, just look them up and explain what the actual findings of the study were. That's it. They will either take off or ban you, depending on what sub it is.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 01:15 AM
1

I think her point was that forcing drinking underground makes amateur-drinkers more vulnerable. In my time working in bars, we cut people off all the time when they were getting too drunk. We also had security to keep a lid on things and check on people that looked too wasted. If someone needed to be cut off, that happened before they were too incoherent. In the very rare case that someone did pass out, we called an ambulance and didn't worry about legal repercussions. I've been to many, many un…
/r/MensRights05/11/14 06:47 AM
1

Saying that an opinion exists isn't saying a lot. The suggestion made by this cartoon is that the male character's predatory stance is somehow an indication of how men feel about the issue. There are all kinds of people who believe things and there certainly are sexual predators out there. That doesn't mean that american men condone rape, nor does it mean that opponents of the law condone rape. There is no evidence at all that an acceptance of rape is prevalent among americans; men or women. The…
/r/MensRights05/11/14 06:22 AM
4

It gives the impression that men's opposition to the affirmative consent laws are rooted in their willingness and desire to fuck un-consenting women. The woman's depiction of the general idea of consent was intended to be very reasonable to further demonize the character that represented men. Your own opposition to the laws, as reasonable as they are, might be viewed as being rooted in the same by someone eager to view it that way.
/r/MensRights05/11/14 12:39 AM
1

This may simply be a reflection of how women are taught, co-erced, or incentivized to act. Perhaps, but if it was the same would apply to men. If the thesis is that women are somehow naturally (biologically?) more sexually submissive, this doesn't prove it. I don't think that they had a thesis in that respect. They had men and women rank 55 sexual fantasies. Here is the abstract: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1111/jsm.12734/ I can't think of a way to control against the social e…
/r/MensRights04/11/14 08:10 AM
0

Makes sense
/r/MensRights04/11/14 01:24 AM
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http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/10/people-resist-affirmative-consent/ everydayfeminism.com - so it depends how you measure noteworthiness I didn't want to give them the clicks
/r/MensRights04/11/14 01:11 AM
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MR is growing, but has little to no political power at this point. Men are just discovering that they have a right to speak up and be respected about this.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 12:42 AM
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With all respect, your Mom did you the worst out of anybody.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 11:11 PM
1

What college is this?!?!?!
/r/MensRights03/11/14 10:54 PM
8

That would explain making both bathrooms unisex.....but not having female exclusive (single occupant) restrooms while males must use the unisex ones. Separate but equal is not equal!
/r/MensRights03/11/14 10:51 PM
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Feminists don't want to debate. They want to spit misleading or completely erroneous statistics and then act victimized when they are debunked. Not an exaggeration....
/r/MensRights03/11/14 10:47 PM
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The point was that sexual aggression and sexual violence are not exclusively something male that men force on women. Fantasies of this sort are even more prevalent in women. Nothing wrong with that at all. Whatever two consenting adults do is beautiful. By gaining some insight into human sexuality, we are able to bring to bear more information, and thus have better context, when we see demonizing portrayals of male sexuality.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 10:36 PM
1

Full article: http://www.businessinsider.com/which-sexual-fantasies-are-normal-2014-10
/r/MensRights03/11/14 06:27 PM
2

Yes, but it's an official US government blog post. Hahahahaha!!!!!! For those out there that couldn't find the humor in your post, look at the studies that they cherry-picked: None of them address men and women doing the same work. Yes, on the whole, women choose career paths that pay less money in total. That is not proof of sexism and they very deliberately omitted any apples-to-apples comparisons of men and women in "the exact same fucking job".
/r/MensRights03/11/14 06:23 PM
2

That blog post you linked doesn't address "the exact same fucking job" at all.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 11:23 AM
1

You will still get banned for that.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 11:17 AM
1

Strong points. Strong points. She gets on my nerves sometimes but she's doin' her thing here.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 10:10 AM
1

I don't get why only men were allowed to fantasize about ejaculating on their sexual partner. Fair enough. Also, I'd love to know how they couched the question about "I have fantasized having sex with someone much older than I am", since if it was honest it would comprise just about every person who wasn't in a coma during their adolescent/young adult years, not just 1/3 of women. I think it was probably couched exactly as it read. The abstract says they ranked 55 sexual fantasies so I couldn't …
/r/MensRights03/11/14 09:58 AM
2

I think non-student men who live near campus might find themselves in a favorable economic position.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 07:44 AM
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defining sexual dominance. You can find the abstract here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1111/jsm.12734/ There it says that the subjects of the study ranked 55 sexual fantasies, so I'm not sure how they could conflate "being the object of sexual attentions" with being dominated. Hard to say what exactly happened though, as you have to pay to see the whole study. Do you have a link to the other study? I'm curious to take a look at it. Anyhow, I submitted this because it struck me…
/r/MensRights03/11/14 07:15 AM
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I think it is relevant to MR in the sense that it counters the way male sexuality is portrayed and demonized as violent/agressive.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 07:01 AM
2

Full article: http://www.businessinsider.com/which-sexual-fantasies-are-normal-2014-10
/r/MensRights03/11/14 06:43 AM
3

But how much should the law force this?
/r/MensRights03/11/14 06:23 AM
1

That's fucked up. I hope they were at least professional.
/r/MensRights03/11/14 05:24 AM
6

It is good that Purdue's women's clinic will provide services to male sexual assault victims. At the same time, where the fuck is the men's clinic?
/r/MensRights03/11/14 04:46 AM
1

There is a hilarious documentary about the writer of Everybody Loves Raymond trying to make a version for Russia. The whole movie is him trying to get past the fact that Russian people just couldn't relate to Raymond being so desperate to please his wife.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 08:53 PM
1

art imitates life. they're only able to make a comedy out of it because people can relate to the truth in it from their own experiences. I think it also caters to a fantasy, even if it doesn't reflect their own experiences. The pushy-wife, stupid-husband meme is rampant in advertising (for products aimed at women). It wouldn't still be around if women didn't find it so appealing that they will buy one product over another for associating with it.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 08:51 PM
1

Just a little election-season whoring by Mr. Pres. Hes gotta get those women to vote for the Ds this ominous off-season election. Throwing men under the bus isn't a political threat yet.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 09:08 AM
2

Talk like that can get you banned from certain subs......
/r/MensRights02/11/14 03:42 AM
2

Could you imagine the uproar if the male and female positions that movie were swapped? Try it this way: I saw a movie where two females played a prank on two fraternity guys. The fraternity kidnapped the two women, stripped them naked, put socks over their vaginas, shackled them to the floor, and held a trial in front of the entire fraternity. Then they branded them with a cattle brand with their fraternity's letter on it, scarring them for life. Then they let them go without their clothes and w…
/r/MensRights02/11/14 03:37 AM
2

It seems so uncharacteristically logical and helpful. They strike me as if they are genuinely trying to do something reasonable and effective instead of just whoring out the issue to garner readers, viewers, clicks etc.
/r/MensRights02/11/14 03:25 AM
2

You should really post an archive link so it doesn't grace her stupid article with more clicks.
/r/MensRights01/11/14 07:45 PM
2

Many cities have income-based legal aid that would totally apply to this situation.
/r/MensRights29/10/14 10:16 PM
2

This guy's wife probably can't actually respond to any of the issues that he is raising, so she is resorting to the same 'shaming' tactics that feminists so often complain about. She is trying to scare him away from bringing uncomfortable things like this up in public. Not only that, she is trying to shame him by suggesting that he is effeminate and UN-masculine. Time to dust off your cojones and DTMFA, dude.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 10:29 PM
1

Pepper spray.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 08:04 PM
1

My impression is that it was making fun of the feminists.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 06:43 PM
5

Well, that's not exactly true. Men have plenty of opportunity to use their sexuality to make money......if they go gay-for-pay.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 04:26 AM
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The post suggests that people actually ask what rape victims were wearing anymore. That is the straw-man which justified the hatred. You might be able to find an isolated incident of someone asking about a rape victim's clothing, but its been cliche for decades. Its been gone.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 01:58 AM
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their condemnation is essentially tribal, not principled. This is insightful. Nice work.
/r/MensRights27/10/14 01:55 AM
1

I appreciate your honesty and taking the time to write this out. Here is where we are in disagreement: By being effeminate and calling herself a man, she is breaking down my identity. No she isn't. Your manhood and your identity as a man are not the slightest bit reliant on what she calls herself or how she uses the word. That is yours just as mine is mine. I spent a decade working in bars in a major city and I regularly interacted with people that live all kinds of lifestyles; having all kinds …
/r/MensRights27/10/14 01:20 AM
2

Yes, I think this definitely needs arrows.
/r/MensRights26/10/14 07:16 PM
2

You'll be an asshole? To who? Trust me, the retards that like this video already think your an asshole. Dust off your cojones and call them out for the dishonest and debunked "statistics".
/r/MensRights26/10/14 06:49 PM
1

Trust me, you people are annoying too. Go jerk off to a Gary Cooper movie.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 08:34 AM
1

Hey don't get saucy with me, Bearnaise. This whole discussion is about the farce of the '1 in 5' myth.
/r/MensRights25/10/14 07:51 AM
4

There is some validity to what MattClark was saying. People will use it as a reason to disregard the article, if not the content. Unfortunately it seems like conservative publications are the only ones who will publish something like this lately.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 08:55 PM
0

Now I'm getting down-voted for talking trash on Ayn Rand? I thought libertarians were supposed to be tough. You pussies need to go back to /r/Feminism.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 06:12 PM
1

Men aren't victims is like saying rockets aren't shaped like penises for good reason.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 01:26 AM
-1

Bravo! I'm feelin this shiz. She lost me a little when she took a step into some tired conservative memes. It was subtle until she dropped Ayn Rand. Still, it deserves an up-vote.
/r/MensRights24/10/14 01:22 AM
2

I think it is really important for our society to define what is and is not rape. When you combine this lack of discussion with the incredibly incendiary (and often completely fabricated) statistics on rape, people get a kind of "rape panic" where they seem to see rape everywhere. I am the first guy to step up to combat sexual assault. I have taught hundreds of free self defense classes for women and I care deeply about the women in my family. This kind of hysteria just makes it easier for the s…
/r/MensRights23/10/14 10:35 PM
1

I guess I am not going to get any clarification from you, and I don't think that you fully understand what constitutes a 'straw man' fallacy. The point is that it is very easy to find out that the "1 in 5" myth is completely ridiculous. The claim is not based in sound science at all, and that is readily apparent with even the smallest amount of investigation. The people who continue to repeat this myth fall into two categories: They haven't made any effort to look into the truth of the "statisti…
/r/MensRights23/10/14 10:12 PM
2

Pimp - The Story of My Life by Iceberg Slim Shogun by James Clavelle Nature, Man and Woman by Alan Wilson Watts Fingers Pointing Towards the Moon by Wei Wu Wei The Disowned Self by Nathaniel Brandon The Zen Teaching of Bodhidharma by Bodhidharma, Red Pine (Translator) How Life Imitates Chess by Gary Kasparov Conan the Defender by Robert Jordan
/r/RedPillBooks23/10/14 08:48 AM
1

The video is of the utmost importance here. The public at large is much more likely to pay attention if they can see a video. Get it and post it first and foremost. Did your friend get a suspension letter or anything else in writing? Combined with the video that would be a great way to get attention from the news. Everyone here could blast it out to get it started.
/r/MensRights23/10/14 06:10 AM
1

This asinine "1 in 5" myth is being repeated all over the place. Any closer look at the source of the myth will reveal how misleading it is. At this point, the people who are repeating it are either: Uninterested in the veracity of the statement or Intentionally lying What do you think?
/r/MensRights22/10/14 10:29 PM
1

My feeling is that people get to dress how they want, play with the toys they want, write the blogs that they want, etc. Likewise, everyone is responsible for contributing to the household and that has nothing to do with how they dress, what toys they play with, what they write online, etc. I would address the house-work issue with the same respect and politeness that you would with anyone else. Respect your sister's feelings, respect your own, be diplomatic and try to compromise and work it out…
/r/MensRights22/10/14 09:59 PM
2

Please be more specific.....
/r/MensRights22/10/14 08:04 PM
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Tell the guy to contact your state's board of education and the US department of education. You can easily file a complaint with both, and they will be obligated to look into it. Even if the guy wont do it, you should do it yourself. If the facts are as they were presented here, whatever administrator made that decision needs to be re-trained or fired. If the complaints don't result in action within 7 days, post copies of the complaints here and send a mass email to all of the newspapers in your…
/r/MensRights22/10/14 07:19 PM
2

I think that it is equally destructive for people to go around repeating statistics that are absolutely untrue. Anyone who repeats the '1 in 5' number is either willfully ignorant on the subject or intentionally lying to get people panicked. I understand the thinking: If people get panicked and up-in-arms about the topic of sexual assault, then maybe the collective response will be greater and the lie will be worth it in the end. This is very childish thinking and actually works against the real…
/r/MensRights22/10/14 07:10 PM
1

I agree with a solutions-oriented approach. Its amazing how little focus the whole idea of workable solutions has received. RAINN's recommendations emphasize that rape does not occur as an accident by people who are poorly educated on the subject. Rapists know that what they are doing is wrong and they specifically prey on vulnerable people. Young college women are very vulnerable for a ton of reasons and that is why the very, very few people that are sexually predatory sociopaths target them. I…
/r/MensRights22/10/14 12:48 AM
3

But it's also disrespectful to feel like the numbers HAVE to be inflated. No one needs to feel like the "1 in 5" number HAS to be inflated....it is inflated. Please take a look at this academic article on the subject: http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/MythsGilbert.htm 1 in 1000 would still be terrifying and require immediate action Absolutely. Rape is about as bad a crime as there is. I doubt if you would find anyone who doesn't think measures need to be taken to combat rape. However…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 10:54 PM
5

Hey, Mulan was actually pretty good. I hate most of the crap that Disney pedals, but Mulan triumphed through ingenuity and guts. Good message for kids of both genders.
/r/MensRights21/10/14 10:15 PM
5

I have never been fingerprinted, and I wouldn't as a matter of privacy. I certainly wouldn't want my dna on file if I could avoid it. I can think of all kinds of personal health information that could be gleaned by a hacker stealing the files. Why not offer it as a voluntary opt-in for people who don't mind? This is similar to the suggestion that we should give police the ability to cut the engine of any car by remote. I see how it would be a lifesaver in many cases, but I would prefer to have c…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 09:20 PM
3

Holy shit. You are speaking truths that go far beyond this issue. You can help a lot of men as well as women with insight like this. Not for nothing here, I've worked as a consultant for a few different motivational speakers and health gurus. I genuinely think that you could have a reasonably lucrative career as a an author and/or speaker. Write a book, dude. Hit me up if you want to work up an outline just for the hell of it (no business required)
/r/MensRights21/10/14 09:01 PM
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The 1 in 5 number that the white house repeated is not the result of a scientifically sound methodology. Campus rape is a real problem, but repeating very false numbers to get people riled up is not helping. The people who exaggerate these numbers likely have good intentions; thinking that they will inspire a bigger response and save people. That is very misguided and causes a panic that doesn't actually help anyone. This is an academic article that gives an honest look at the statistics and wha…
/r/MensRights21/10/14 07:58 PM
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The actual rates of sexual assault on campus are genuinely alarming in their own right, and I believe that it is incredibly disrespectful to inflate and misrepresent those numbers for political purposes. The 1 in 5 number was never based in sound science. Here is an academic article that discusses the situation: http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/MythsGilbert.htm
/r/MensRights21/10/14 06:02 PM
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