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Woah these generic platitudes are incredible. Do you want add some more generic common sense and pretend you’re a genius? You didn’t catch that this is sarcasm so let me tell you explicitly so you don’t think you’re getting a gold star for the pick me behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:30 AM
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A flex? It’s pointing out the irony that it happens right in front of you and that you are on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:33 AM
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Because I’m on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:15 AM
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As with every issue that draws mass hypocrisy, let’s pretend these are all different women who are consistently firm in their beliefs and not them being indecisive and flip flopping to whatever side is beneficial at the time to justify why they reject men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:10 AM
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Exactly my first thought as well. Half the time they’re complaining that people pleasing men don’t stand up to them and have no back bone while the other half they’re complaining that men are disagreeable and won’t listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:40 AM
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Every comment he types is completely useless. It’s a troll looking for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:02 PM
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No one is befuddled by anything. I made a point that there is no one appealing night out to women that every man can use. You proceeded to create a paragraph that I never said so you could scream “haha autistic” because your little feeling were hurt and I completely embarrassed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:54 PM
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He can’t comprehend basic discussions so he goes around and jumps into things he doesn’t understand and gets mad when he’s corrected. It’s quite pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:19 PM
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Bud there’s nothing I’m worried to figure out. You’re on this sub every day giving advice no one asked you for or cares about. Do you think you’re successful because you’ve had a relationship before? That’s not impressive. Everyone has done this. Do you know what autistic is? Telling someone your life story not realizing they don’t give a shit about it. Writing common sense advice that no one cares about. Bragging about figuring out what everyone has already done. Try to read the room and figure…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:09 PM
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I was having a normal discussion. When chronically online Reddit losers want to jump and run their mouth I’m going to treat you like the clown you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:12 PM
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The funniest thing here is that you think anyone gives a fuck about you. Pointing out that there is no magic appealing night in no way translates to being befuddled by social interaction. I know exactly what’s going on which is why I pointed this out and you have both to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:07 PM
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No shit genius did you just figure out the point of what was said after writing 30 paragraphs thinking anyone gives a fuck about your boring ass life story? There is no “appealing night out” that all men know. That’s why pointed it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:51 PM
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Because there isn’t an answer to this as I said. That’s why I pointed this out. That is why he did not answer, you cannot answer, and even they cannot answer this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:29 PM
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You said “Has nothing to do with looks”. I was talking about being appealing to women and yes women treat you differently in social situations depending on your attractiveness. I already know how women operate. I was not asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:06 PM
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You said “Has nothing to do with looks”. I was talking about being appealing to women and yes women treat you differently depending on your attractiveness. I already know how women operate. I was not asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:06 PM
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Bud did you actually just say attracting women has nothing to do with looks? You also don’t just get invited out with women just because you’re there and friendly. They are extremely selective about who they allow out with them. They don’t invite every man in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:30 PM
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I did not in any way. You’ve just made that up. You’re making some imaginary scenario where there is equal attractiveness and status which isn’t happening. The most physically attractive men with status all “win out”. No one cares who is going to get 100 women or 105 out of the winners. They all won and it had nothing to do with kindness. Kindness could be the bonus between 100 and 105 among the winner circle. Irrelevant. Physical attraction and status is the difference between being with 3 and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:31 PM
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This post is confusing white knighting with simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:13 PM
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And this is why kindness is just a possible bonus as I said. Not a determining factor and not necessary. The physically attractive man with status wins. It does not matter if he is kind or not. It’s not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:08 PM
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You are the one who said men should know how to sound appealing to women. I said nothing of a cheat code. Everyone knows what type of people they get along with. Knowing this does not translate into attracting them or becoming the type that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:31 PM
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You’ve seen the most physically attractive and high status men be the ones struggling with women while the nice guys have the most success and are selected over them? Maybe in movies. Unless that guy is also physically attractive and high status the nice guy is never going to win the battle of attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:05 PM
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You’re saying these men don’t know how to socialize because women online didn’t teach them. What is a “normal” woman going to teach them? They’re just going to reject them. I still don’t know what they find as an appealing night out. There’s never a straight answer and I cannot read their mind to know everything that needs to be said and done on a night out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:23 PM
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It doesn’t. Being physically attractive and having status attracts women. You can be a complete asshole and still attract women if you’re physically attractive and have status. Being kind is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:42 PM
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This is exactly why I said this is just a bonus. It’s not necessary or important enough to attract women and is not the determining factor between being highly successful and a a life full of mostly failure with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:42 AM
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I don’t need to. I already have. I’ve constantly seen the quiet nice guy be the one who is overlooked and rejected while the physically attractive “social” high status guy succeeds the most. It’s always been that way. Kindness does not change that. Theres a difference between plenty of people (most) not wanting to date you and plenty of people (most) not wanting to. Kindness does not change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:28 AM
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People aren’t that diverse. If a man is physically unattractive, does not display social status, and is deemed awkward his relationship chances are destroyed to slim to none. Women actually care about this. A physically attractive man displaying social status will be completely fine with women whether he’s a complete asshole or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:15 AM
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So you’ve never met any rude or mean people in relationships? How is this possible of kindness is a requirement?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:45 PM
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You don’t see making a post named Nice guys should accept being alone contradicting being nice attracts women? He also backtracked into saying it maintains a long relationship. Being nice is simply a bonus in some scenarios. That’s it. If women find nice men unattractive and there are assholes who still attract more women being nice is not making any noticeable impact. There are more important requirements women have that they will ignore kindness for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:34 PM
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Really he’s correct? Because he’s actually arguing the opposite. Nice guys should accept being alone Idc how nice of a guy you are and how great a future husband your grandma or aunt or mom told you that you’d be
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 11:06 PM
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Maintenance is not attracting women bud. You made this entire post about men who are alone and state that the dating market is unfair. This has nothing to do with maintenance within a relationship which has nothing to do with attracting women to be in a relationship which your post is actually about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:57 PM
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So these men are not getting relationships yet you’re repeatedly harping about how men already in relationships need to be nice? This has nothing to do with your original post about men attracting women and getting into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:53 PM
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Maintenance is not attracting women bud. You made this entire post about men who are alone and state that the dating market is unfair. This has nothing to do with maintenance within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:50 PM
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We made you feel stupid I know. You and all the other nice guys who think being nice will get you women. You’re a walking meme at this point. They have a whole sub for people like you. You were referring to attracting women as I directly quoted you. Now you’re backtracking to completely flip into “maintenance”. Attracting women is not maintenance. You feel stupid and angry for a reason. You just made a post titled “Nice guys should accept being alone” then in the post talk about how you don’t ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:38 PM
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What about this makes them shit exactly? This is often said yet never discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:49 PM
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Because this is all 2005 pick up artist bullshit. Men aren’t “seducing” women. It’s exactly what you said repeated contact and physical attraction. I’ll add in luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:35 PM
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This is coming from the same person whose argument is nice guys should accept being alone. Now telling me how being nice is attracting women. If this was attracting women these men would not be alone or complaining. You do know you should be supporting your argument and not destroying it right? You know you’re wrong when both men and women here are telling you so. They can’t agree on anything but somehow both are against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:28 PM
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No. You didn’t. You said “Being nice absolutely plays a role in attracting a woman.” Not “being nice plays a role in maintains a relationship.” Being nice does not attract women. You are arguing against the only realistic part of your post. Even women are telling you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:21 PM
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Being nice is the bare minimum bud. It’s not attracting anyone. Even women are telling you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:01 PM
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You have no response because I’ve broken your logic. You said this is what women want and that it will get you most women. The point is this is not what women want if they reject you despite you having all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:51 PM
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You said this is what women want and that it will get you most women. I clearly pointed out this is not seduction or a skill. Yet you’re commenting about this on a post about seduction and skill is what women want. The point is this is not what women want if they reject you despite you having all of this. Do you not understand what’s being written?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:11 PM
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None of this is seduction. None of this is a skill. None of this prevents rejection. You can do all of this and not attract most women. I’m waiting for you to tell all of us how to seduce women. Since men simply choose not to seduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:29 PM
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The only realistic piece here is that being nice does nothing to attract women. That’s it. Men are not refusing to “seduce”. There is no course to learn how to seduce. Well you can buy the bullshit scam course from the latest red pill podcaster for those who actually believe this is a learnable skill but we’re talking about legitimate learning. Seduction is not something you decide to embrace or change. It’s not a decision or else all guys would choose to seduce any woman they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:08 PM
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No I cannot. If I don’t want to date you I don’t think you’re a catch. Me telling someone they’re a good person does not mean I’d think they’re be good in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:43 PM
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It happens because the man is not physically attractive. You said both physically attractive and a good catch. At minimum you would consider dating him if you truly thought this. If you wouldn’t he’s not a good catch. If he’s not a good catch TO YOU then you do not think he’s a good catch. If I see a 400 pound woman I’m not telling her I think she’s attractive because some other guy out there might think that. That would be stupid for me to say to her and a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:07 PM
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It’s not hard to understand. It’s not true and poorly worded. Once you call someone physically attractive you think they’re physically attractive. That’s it. A good catch for someone else, not me. And this is the lie. YOU don’t think he’s a good catch so there is no reason for you to tell him that. The op is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:41 PM
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You said physically attractive and a good catch. And a good catch. If you aren’t attracted to them they aren’t a good catch. Women can look at a man and say he's physically attractive but not be physically attracted to him? This sentence…… This is a separate issue. If you aren’t physically attracted he’s not physically attractive. You would not call him this in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:21 PM
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If i think someone is a catch and a good relationship partner I’d consider dating them. If I told them I think they’re a catch and I wouldn’t date them I’d be lying. Someone being a good person is not a catch making them dateable. If they don’t match well with you they aren’t a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:14 PM
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This still doesn’t add up. If a guy is physicality attractive and a good catch that means he has both sides. As the op said this would be a lie which we understand is you trying to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:08 PM
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It’s part of the code. Gender war tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:09 PM
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I don’t know what you think “fun” vs. boring is or how it’s defined. If you said awkward that would actually make sense. An average guy who never stuttered, never had silent pauses in conversation, always had consistent eye contact, zero uncomfortable movements, perfect posture, always displayed social status. Then maybe they could reach close to the level of a more attractive guy who failed badly at all of these things. The only thing I’ve ever seen as game is just not being awkward and appeari…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:28 PM
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Bbbut you don’t see men as people. Just feeling generators. I know exactly what chemistry is. An imaginary buzzword you can’t define or measure used as an excuse to reject men you don’t find attractive without appearing superficial. Since attributes don’t matter you can fall in love with a rock because the only requirement is that it makes you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:19 PM
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A person can be ideal but the chemistry is missing. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong or not good enough with them, Just the spark is missing. You cannot negotiate attraction. I’m not crazy about anyone that I don’t think is ideal. If I call them ideal they are a catch. It is objective and based on checkboxes. I can define every piece that makes them a catch. I don’t use “chemistry” or “spark” that can’t even be defined or put to words. If they don’t meet the check boxes they are not a cat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:54 PM
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And what is the “game” they supposedly have? Also if doing decent means getting some obese women that’s not some incredible accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:46 PM
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If they are ideal you have “chemistry”. They are a catch. If they aren’t then they are not a catch. If they are not attractive you don’t have chemistry and they are not a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:43 PM
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If someone is ideal they are a catch. If we go by your definition everyone on the planet is a catch and everyone should be able to get a relationship because there is no such thing as being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:36 PM
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I’m waiting for the blue pill to come help. They told me this doesn’t happen. To just look at Walmart. Why aren’t they helping?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:11 PM
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If someone’s not attractive they aren’t a catch for a relationship and I would not consider them one. I’d be lying at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:10 PM
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People should not be lying to you telling you you’re something that you’re not. That does not help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:06 PM
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They will never admit they make rejections solely on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:00 PM
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But this would involve everyone at the barbecue to tell you how amazing the dish looks and smells but never eating it. At a certain point you realize they’re lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:54 PM
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Wait this isn’t true. Blue pill says guys are rejected for their personality and not looks. This isn’t possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:52 PM
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You said “bullying and manipulation”. Social skills are manipulating others for personal gain and having others do what you want them to while pretending to care about them. Social skills aren’t moral traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:04 PM
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Aka “social skills” that women love dearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:25 PM
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Yet again no one is telling you this. How the fuck does No one has told you that men have no control over any action THEY do. imply men don’t control their actions? It’s in all caps to simplify it for you and you still cant read it. What multiple people have told you is that YOUR decision determines the outcome. Men have no control over who you select. There is nothing men can do about that and of course they’re frustrated like anyone else would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:03 PM
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No one has told you that men have no control over anything. That shouldn’t have to be said. What was told to you is that they have no control over who you date. What they do individually is not your decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:30 PM
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First it’s better than nothing so what I would not be doing is rubbing it in the faces of others who have nothing telling them how much harder it is for me. If a man were to get a lot of attention from women that would be a net positive over the typical male experience. You now have the potential to find a viable option and you are going to sound spoiled complaining that you get so much attention from women but they’re all unattractive. This is not good it’s just better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:27 PM
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Men do not have a roster of options waiting to date them that they can choose from like you do. Cheating is irrelevant. No one here has told you that men can’t and it doesn’t effect selection. Men’s dating lives are entirely dependent on YOUR decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:13 PM
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Then why are you asking about men’s control when you know they have none. You cannot have agency and responsibility for something you do not control.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:44 PM
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What control are you insinuating that men should have over your dating decisions? What “agency” should men have over who you decide is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:12 PM
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When a woman can't get what she want's - it's overinflated ego and she needs to touch grass. When a man? The time is hard, my bro, dating is shit, and so on. Yes. When you can’t get what you want with an abundance of choice available to you that will be called ego. When you don’t have choice that’s hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:04 PM
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And what are they telling you that makes them tick?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:53 PM
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Then you didn’t address anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:59 PM
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I read what’s responded to me. No one is going through your responses to other people to answer what I told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:40 AM
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You do know when you don’t have an answer and can’t think of a rebuttal saying “I already addressed this” when you haven’t isn’t going to get you out of the argument right? Clearly not because you pull this daily. You said nothing of what actions you think make men an asshole, creepy, or what you think reading a room is. “Just read the room bro”. Just generic shit that no one has disagreed with doing but no explanation of what actual actions that you think men are doing wrong. You know can’t art…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:28 PM
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No one is going through all of your comments. You can reply if you have an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:17 PM
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The topic at hand is an excuse to justify the “plight of men” as said in the post. I am addressing that “more effort” does not equate to more success on integration in society or better “social skills” as you’ve said it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:38 PM
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The entire post is a justification of how men deserve their “plight” because of their laziness and refusal to put in effort. Someone who understands that the world isn’t fair is not trying to justify the plight of anyone by blaming it on them. This post and that comment o referenced are literal examples of why what men assert is correct. Why is why your only argument is “nope”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:47 PM
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I’ve completed destroyed everything you’ve said. Which is why you continue to change topics. You tried to claim this wasn’t about fairness. I’ve clearly outlined in every way that it is. You saying “Nope” is not an argument or rebuttal. It’s defeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:28 PM
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You’ve now completely backtracked from the original comment being discussed and changed the subject completely to the literal text of the op because you didn’t have a response. You also completely ignored the text “the plight of men” which can be interchangeable with failure here. Nitpicking text does not save you here. Justifying the plight of men in dating because of refusal or laziness is exactly what justifying mens failure is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:06 PM
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Yet again for the third time. Not one person here told you to do nothing. You’ve now pivoted from Neither of those passages say that life is fair and everyone is the same To the op because I’ve already demonstrated without question that what was said in that comment was entirely rooted in fairness. The op is no different. Attributing refusal and lack of effort to men’s failure in order to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:41 PM
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No one has told you that. You’ve just ignored the entire point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:32 PM
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Not one person here told you to do nothing. We’ve told you that doing everything can still result in failure. Yet you attribute laziness and inaction to men by default so you can justify why they have failed. This isn’t interpretation, it’s a direct quote. when there are plenty of people out there who do put in more effort and learn in order to integrate into society. Putting in more effort than another man does not guarantee you shit. This isn’t a fair game. This isn’t an equal game. This isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:59 PM
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I’ve just broken this down for you. The idea that high effort will be rewarded with success is entirely based on fairness. The idea of what you think is right in having a good personality and treating others kindly will result in success is entirely based on fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:48 PM
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That is exactly what they say. Reality is though, you cannot get angry and blame everyone else when there are plenty of people out there who do put in more effort and learn in order to integrate into society. Putting in effort does not guarantee success. The people who try the hardest may not be the most successful. This is not a game of equality where everyone is rewarded for their effort. It’s ok to struggle and get frustrated. It’s not ok to blame everyone else, while refusing to try. Attribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:41 PM
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This is that just world fallacy from the blue pill. Putting in effort does not guarantee success or attraction. There will be men who put in far less that are accepted far more. Men who are frustrated didn’t just refuse to try. They did and repeatedly failed. That’s why they’re frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:18 PM
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That’s not blocked or controlled. You still had the urge. You cannot manually control, block, or remove biological urges. Changing your actions does not remove the urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:06 PM
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Ok here’s my advice to end world hunger. Just go get food. I literally just told them what to do, so if they can’t figure it out by now, they must be lazy or low IQ. It can’t be any more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:45 PM
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You gave more generic platitudes. They add nothing actionable. You’re applying morality to “social skills” and attraction which is proving you don’t actually know what these are. The best lairs and jackasses are the ones with “social skills”. They use and dispose people for social gain. Being honest and nice are not social skills. They don’t make you attractive. We also have the same person here who thinks men are so stupid because they think looks don’t matter telling us that looks are not a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:31 PM
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You see women have sex with men immediately after meeting them without that man having to plan multiple dates, court her, or having to spend time or money?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:52 AM
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It’s 2026. They cheat, order DoorDash, are dominant, and as you said they don’t care about what others want. Let’s stop the we are all perfect angels that do everything you ask act. And yes men consider it their responsibility to keep her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:04 PM
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I know you don’t care about anyone else wants. That’s irrelevant. You’re saying long term is better for women because it requires the men to complete a laundry list of items to make you happy. That’s not a reward or fun for men, it’s a responsibility. That’s time, money, and recourses spent to make someone else happy. A man who has casual sex can do so without spending time, money, and recourses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:50 PM
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These are hoops an undesirable man must prove before he can get sex a man worth keeping is financially stable, kind, handsome, good in bed, hard-working, have a great a family… list go and go. For casual sex the woman desires him sexually so much so that she allows him to skip these hoops and have sex with her immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:50 PM
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if he’s attractive enough a man I didn’t find attractive wanted to buy me drinks and I turned him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:15 PM
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Because this isn’t about what women should do or what men should to do. And? Women don’t make desirable men jump through all of these hoops to get sex. Desirable men don’t have to put in effort for sex like undesirable men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:13 PM
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This is one of the poorest demonstrations of competence I’ve seen. The plot went right over your head. Do you know what an analogy is? An example to demonstrate how broken the logic is. But you don’t actually have a rebuttal or argument. Just here to bitch and cry about “red pill men” while you can’t formulate an actual response because I’m correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:43 AM
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If you want to make the argument that everyone saying they will grab any guy for sex is doing so because they’re unattractive and can’t get any better then so be it because that is possible but I do think they have some type of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:13 PM
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Men that can have casual sex are more desirable. The men that cannot and have to court first are not as desirable as those men who can. Getting a relationship is not always easier than casual sex. An undesirable man won’t start a relationship from casual sex because he can’t get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:10 PM
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There’s no way you could have come to that conclusion by reading these comments. I know exactly what you’re doing and that shit is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:51 PM
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A man that can get casual sex is more desirable. No shit he can get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:40 PM
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A relationship is far more than just not fucking other people.Women decide who they have sex with so yes if you want sex you will need to court them because most require it. You have 2 scenarios of what men are comparing as sexually desirable. Women saying you need to spend weeks or months planning dates, talk to me daily, prove you can keep me happy, earn my trust and approval, give me exclusivity, dedicate your time and attention to me in a relationship and then if you’ve done all of this succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:35 PM
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No shit that’s not how anyone selects for casual sex are you just now picking up her comment is bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:19 PM
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Because what you said is not true. You don’t simply grab the nearest man willing to have sex with you when you want it because he’s just there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:16 PM
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I just directly quoted his post yes he literally said courting. Read the post.. Women don’t have to court; they are the ones who are courted, so it makes sense that being free of that dynamic is proof you are a desirable, attractive man. For you as a woman yes you aren’t responsible for much because you don’t do the courting. Men are. Men need to initiate and plan a series of dates. Prove that he is safe, valuable, social, and whatever else she wants. He has to show a continued effort to her tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:12 PM
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I know you do. But to pretend that you don’t seek out attractive men for casual sex and instead grab any fat unattractive blob simply because he’s available is obviously not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:05 PM
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Great to know that when you’re standing next to the fat short greasy man who you’ve rejected daily at the grocery store you’re grabbing him to have casual sex with because he’s there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:00 PM
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It’s actually specifically said in the post. finds you attractive and doesn’t ask much from you. You don’t have to put in much effort compared to a relationship; you are free of responsibilities but can still have sex. Women don’t have to court; they are the ones who are courted, so it makes sense that being free of that dynamic is proof you are a desirable, attractive man. I’ve just broken down the difference in effort a man must put in casual sex compared to a relationship… To get casual sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:58 PM
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This isn’t just what this is about. That man in a relationship had to spend weeks to months or years courting her. Spending endless amounts of time, money, planning, and effort all on her in order to win her approval so that she will want to have sex with him. A man who gets casual sex with her did nothing and received the same thing that other man spent months on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:38 PM
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Well today we’ve just learned from these comments that looks do not matter for casual sex. Just stand next to a woman with hormones and she will want to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:20 PM
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So when women have casual sex they simply grab the guy closest to them? There is no evaluation on looks, status, or anything they desire? Just the guy that’s there?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:12 PM
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Sounds obvious right? Not here. These comments are full of women saying they don’t actually desire men they are casual with. They just do it because they want it and he’s there. The men I’ve had casual sex with weren’t desired. They were just available. Dick is abundant and of low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:09 PM
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Why? Because they don’t select men based on this criteria. This is how they hope the men they’re attracted to and date act. Not what makes them choose these men in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:08 PM
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You knew my next comment would be me pointing out he said exactly what I said he did? Like I told you multiple times? What a genius you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:35 PM
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Continued belief in what dipshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:02 PM
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Think about how you just read the words and autonomy Then proceeded to say they aren’t there. I figured the sky being blue wasn’t something you would understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 PM
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These are for attractive men who don’t know what to do with female interest. If you’re romantically struggling with women they aren’t reciprocating interest. You aren’t getting cues. There is nothing to identify. They are reacting negatively to your initiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:39 AM
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I’m not wrong and I never really was. You just bolded specifically where he says exactly that. When someone asks you why the sky is blue they’ve just stated the sky is blue. That’s the difference between if and why as I told you multiple times. I’m not playing this game of you pretending to be a moron anymore. If you can’t understand the sky is blue you aren’t equipped to have this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:42 AM
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I’m not wrong and I never was. You yet again quoted him saying exactly what I said he did with it being in bold. There is no argument. You don’t understand basic English. He’s not questioning IF they are entitled to it, he questions WHY. This like teaching a rock how to read. This is a bit too complex. Let’s dumbs this down again. When someone asks you why the sky is blue they’ve just stated that the sky is blue. They did not ask if it is blue or argue that it is not blue. They’ve defined it is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:53 AM
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You’re just spouting generic stupid shit at this point because you have no clue what’s going on. “whaAT? That never happened. YoU dOnT undeRStanD”. While I’m breaking down actual ideas. The intellectual gap is astounding
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:34 AM
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No shit this is what I just told you. Copying and pasting the same thing does nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:46 PM
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You actually were. You asked me about his comment. That’s what the answer was. You haven’t formed one coherent point. You’re just wasting time as I’m having to break down every sentence to you as if you’re some fucking Neanderthal. You just quoted me saying that he stated women are entitled to goodwill will and autonomy with his quote of stating that women are entitled to goodwill and autonomy. Theta next level incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:09 PM
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I just told you his issue was asking why. You just quoted him stating this. I have to repeat everything 4x for you. I’m not here to teach you how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:37 PM
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Yet again I’m explaining to you that not saying the exact words does not mean anything. That’s the meaning of what he said. I haven’t failed to understand anything. You’re failing to interpret every comment you try to read. He’s clearly stated women are currently entitled to goodwill and autonomy. Exactly as I said he did. His problem was asking why this is the case because you and others will immediately run with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:52 PM
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This is exactly what you just said. Before you said: "He states examples of what men owe to women as far as things like abortion." But, that never happened. I think you realize that now. So yes this is exactly about autonomy. I mentioned abortion as an exact example under autonomy. You just brought this up and I just quoted you doing so. Now you’re saying this isn’t about what you brought up. Is English not your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:50 AM
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That’s why autonomy is always brought up. Is abortion not part of women’s autonomy? You’re getting caught up on the exact words used and not the actual meaning of what was said. If someone says they don’t want any soda and I say they don’t want Pepsi it’s still true despite them never saying the actual word Pepsi. Its implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:13 AM
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He’s clearly stated women’s entitlement to goodwill and autonomy. His statements to what women are owed which I pointed out. He’s also stated women don’t care about men’s issues which is the second thing I pointed out when I said there are no counterparts men have. His issue is asking why men do this which is the last thing I pointed out. It’s like I need to break down every comment to explain what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:40 AM
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It’s poorly worded. He states examples of what men owe to women as far as things like abortion. Pointing out that there are items that women feel they are entitled to and owed which many men agree with. But there are no counterparts that men have which many women agree with. He shouldn’t have been asking why men should be doing this and instead just pointed out that men do have things that they owe to women while nothing is owed to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:01 AM
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I’m not trying to I did. I don’t need to ask anything because I’m not the one who couldn’t interpret it. You are. My problem is not with what they said. I expect it and see it regularly. It’s with you pretending it doesn’t happen when it’s right in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:43 AM
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I already know what they said. I’m pointing out that they do when you’re saying it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:34 AM
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Logically think. Would someone who believes women owe men something ask for proof of what women owe? No. If someone follows up with “what is owed?” that clearly indicates they don’t believe anything is owed to men and they’re challenging the op to change their opinion or fight their stance by listing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:11 AM
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That’s exactly what it says….You need to be able to interpret statements. It’s painfully obvious they said this to imply that they don’t believe women owe men anything and they’re challenging anyone to state otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:57 PM
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There’s one right on this post: INFO: Do women owe men something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:26 PM
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Well yeah the ones here are most definitely majority resentful weirdos to put it very lightly. But I wouldn’t say these issues disappear irl. Like you said women irl don’t even think about this. They don’t think about men’s issues period. So you can come here and be resented or go there and be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:24 PM
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This isn’t about choosing or rejecting attractive men. It’s about physically unattractive men and why you deemed them physically unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:43 PM
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This has nothing to do with what I see. I know what physical traits I’ve seen women select over and over again through experience. You said it’s obvious that looks matter and I gave you a chance to define what looks matter to you and you said words can’t explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:42 PM
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Women are not dishonest to avoid appearing shallow? Sure… I’m not assuming you don’t care about looks. You literally said you are attracted to the full range of every physical trait I gave you without ruling any trait out. If looks matter it’s should be extremely easy to list what physical traits qualify or disqualify men instead of saying you are attracted to all kinds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:24 PM
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You don’t want to be called shallow which is why you don’t list or explain what you actually find physically attractive in men. Most men know not to buy the “just don’t be physically deformed” reply. You’re talking about how physically attractive men can ruin their attraction by actions. That’s not what this is about. He had a chance. This is about the men you don’t find physically attractive that will never get a chance no matter what he does or says because you don’t find him physically attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:52 PM
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No one knows know what physical features you deem unattractive. When someone asks you what type of men you like and you say normal attractive men that tells nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:27 PM
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And there is the issue… You don’t list what you actually find attractive because it sounds cruel. It’s not omitted because it’s obvious or implied. It’s omitted because you don’t want to appear cruel. In reality women’s limit on physical appearance is 10x more strict than simply don’t be cross eyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:16 PM
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You haven’t listed any physical attributes that would disqualify a man from dating you or cause you to reject him. Where has anything you’ve said indicated that looks determined your decision? If all looks can be attractive to you then looks to not matter
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:08 PM
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You’re saying looks matter right after you said your attracted to every physical type of man. This is like saying education level matters but you will date anyone no matter if they graduated or not. Looks do not matter when you include all looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:52 PM
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Then what you’re saying is that looks don’t matter. Because you are attracted to such a variety of physical appearance that nearly every man will qualify physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:38 PM
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How do looks factor in if you are truly attracted to basically all ranges of physical types? If no one is excluded then anyone can participate. Looks don’t matter if you include all looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:33 PM
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You’re listing every physical type in all ranges. If this is the case you’ve just categorized basically all men as passing your physical standards. I haven’t seen you exclude anyone. This is a roundabout way of saying looks don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:05 PM
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Height, hair, facial hair, skin color, race, body fat percentage, body type, eye color.. none of that is obvious in what you find attractive yet it is never listed but always a prerequisite men must meet for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:07 PM
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I have yet to see anyone other than blue pill men say this. If a man comes to this sub and says he’s rejected because of his physical appearance it’s them and women that will be telling him it’s because of his personality and not his looks. They will tell you about the fat guy or the 5’3 guy they know who has no issue with dating because he’s nice or has a great personality. This is them saying women seek unattractive men. Short and fat is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:50 PM
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Notice how quickly your example shut her up about hands. She made this post complaining about men thinking women don’t care about physical attractiveness and proceeded to deny women are attracted to every physical attribute you listed. This has got to be a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:35 PM
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You know you’re caught in a terrible argument which is why you’re trying to weasel out of this. Yet another loss for you on this sub. You were just caught denying every physical trait listed to you in a post you made whining about how men deny women care about physical attractiveness. Let paste your entire comment so you can’t lie your way out: I like all kind of tits, When did this start being about you? big hands Proving my point, you’re disputing lies. Find me examples of women talking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:31 PM
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If an unattractive man can get the most attractive women because of his personality then looks literally do not matter. He got the woman without it, therefore it was not needed. There is no fair. You are either attractive or unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:18 PM
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You didn’t tell us shit. I directly quoted you word for word. All you did was deny all of the physical features that women are attracted to and now you’re trying to detract from that by adding in rare fetishes. Men understand that women want physically attractive men. That means tall, broad shoulders, lean, muscular, defined jawline. Everything that you’ve just denied women want. Yet you’re complaining about how men are dumb for denying the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:09 PM
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Yes but ironically this is a strictly blue pill talking point about how personality will attract women despite what you look like. Yet they’re the ones who make posts like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:22 PM
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You just made a post complaining about how dumb men are because they supposedly don’t think women care about physical attractiveness and now you’ve just made multiple comments denying that women are attracted to these physical features and genetics as lies or gender dimorphism when someone brings it up. You have denied every point of women being physically attracted to men to the point you’ve said Not every woman cares to have a guy that’s tall with muscles. They don’t have to be tall No. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:14 PM
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That is exactly what you said. Poor people can be happy despite being impoverished. The literal words “You don’t need money to be happy”. So you should be not only completely fine but happy with being impoverished. If that’s not what you’re saying then there is no reason to mention survival at all. You don’t tell people be happy with nothing like you’re trying to. You surely don’t accept being told that because I just said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:11 PM
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No that is exactly what it means. If something isn’t necessary for me to be happy I’d gladly throw it out or give it away. You should remain happy if you gave everything you own away if what you said was true. It’s not. Survival is not happiness. You cannot in any circumstances say others should be happy because survival is met. It’s extremely poor logic. You cannot tell someone who is abused to learn to be happy because they are surviving. That’s not how reality operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:49 PM
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It is exactly comparable to poverty. They obviously have enough to survive. I shouldn’t have to explain that. You’re jumping to survival because it’s the same gotcha line that all of you try to use. Not going to happen here. If you don’t need money to be happy give away everything you own. Keep just barely enough to survive since you think that’s all that matters. Live poor and alone since none of this is needed. Yet you never would.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:19 PM
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No. You don’t. You can survive and live being poor. Now why aren’t you telling them they should learn to be happy without money and it’s fine for them to stay poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:04 PM
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Then you should make the poor learn to be happy without money and tell them to find happiness and satisfaction in other things. No one said they need to stop being poor. Making money the foundation of your happiness is a recipe for disaster. We can defeat all issues with this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:51 PM
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And maybe the rich can teach the poor that they can be happy without money. Will this solve poverty? Or will solve nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:59 PM
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It’s like you don’t understand that I can copy the comments.. Being autistic is bad? 🤔 We learning a lot about women in this thread today.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:27 PM
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This would require you to actually read the comments..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:00 PM
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You have multiple comments all embarrassing you in response to what you said and agreeing with me… You spamming the word emotional to anything you don’t like does nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:32 PM
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Oh no he made me look bad. If I call him emotional that will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:38 PM
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I’m calling out exactly what you’ve said. Now you’re mad because you can’t defend it. No one gives a fuck what you have an interest in. No one wants anything to do with people like you and I’ve outlined exactly why.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:17 PM
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I don’t hide the truth. I speak it. If there was someone I don’t want to date I don’t describe them as defective losers and scroll the internet 10 hours a day to shit on them. You’re also the same person that will be blaming men for rejection because of their personality and not their genetics. When we all know what you truly think is the complete opposite of the blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:54 PM
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Yet again you hoping the person you’re attracted to feels the same way about you has nothing to do with consent. Completely irrelevant. And maybe you aren’t a normal person after all. You’re speaking as if you’ve never romantically desired another person and can’t comprehend it. That is asexual and aromatic behavior which is fine but not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:51 PM
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That is the whole point. You want willing participants. You want them to be attractive men. No one is going to say they hope less attractive men find them attractive and want a relationship with them. Why would you or anyone logically want attractive men they are interested in dating to decide they’re done with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:36 PM
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Right continue to play the asexual role where you don’t care about anyone. Very believable. And yes everyone hopes the person they like likes them back. Including you. Another genius argument from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:33 PM
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No but I’m not the type of scumbag to call them defective losers who won’t be missed. It’s what I’m focusing on because the same scumbags who do this are the same ones that say personality is what matters. I’m upset because I despise people who kick others who are less fortunate for an ego boost. These are who the biggest losers on the planet actually are. And I’m going to remind them every time I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:12 PM
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You don’t have an actual opinion. You just say whatever it is that you think opposes men. I don't like to any attractive men to like me if they don't like me. I also don't like all men I find attractive. This is again irrelevant. When you are with an attractive guy that you like you don’t immediately know if he likes you back. You hope he does. You don’t know if he will reject you. You hope he doesn’t. Not one person has asked what you would do with an attractive man that doesn’t like you. Clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:06 PM
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This has absolutely nothing to do with consent. Anyone with half a brain can read this and figure that out. It’s a terrible attempt at getting out of a losing argument. I’ve had to repeatedly tell you this has nothing to do with forcing men to do anything and not one fucking person has told you so. I didn’t ask you any of this shit. I said you want the people you find attractive to like you back. Read the word WANT. Read it again. Just like any other functioning human being would. Eating food is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:44 PM
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It’s not about proving that men are opting out. You said if he was never in your dating pool why would you care. This is exactly what the ops point is. If there were men opting out and they were attractive men that you like you would care. You view any men involved in this as undesirable so you don’t. Unattractive men were never in your dating pool. Attractive men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:39 PM
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Nothings been said about what women want aside from virtue signaling what they think makes them look good. You’ve literally just said you want the best genes possible. Theres no coming back from that and you aren’t backtracking now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:35 PM
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A man you find attractive is a viable option. The explanation I gave demonstrates the difference from a straight man considering you but choosing to reject you and a gay man who was never in your pool to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:33 PM
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You wanting attractive men to like you has nothing to do with you determining free will. You want them to choose to like you. Not to pretend to like you. Not to be forced to like you. Not whatever irrelevant bullshit you’re going to cook up next that no one told you. They can clearly do that with free will. You can clearly want they with free will and you do. I can tell you exactly how you will behave. You will drink water. You will eat food. It’s common sense of how humans operate. You’re tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:27 PM
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You’re yet again answering what no one asked. Not one person said he has to do anything. You want attractive men to like you. You want attractive men to want to date you. This is how every human being on the planet who is capable of attraction behaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:00 PM
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You don’t want the men you find attractive to opt out of dating. You want them to find you attractive. You don’t meet an attractive man and say “I hope he rejects me and opts out of dating”. No one on the planet does. You say “I hope he likes me back”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:52 PM
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There’s no reason to pretend that you or anyone else want the people they are attracted to to not only reject them but opt out of dating entirely. It should be obvious that this is not a good thing and if it started happening frequently it would be a problem. You want the people you find attractive to decide to date you. Not to decide to quit dating entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:37 PM
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Yes the post is about caring. You said you don’t and wouldn’t. We said you would. This comment is about you incorrectly stating you’re agreeing with me when you’re clearly not. The only reason you tried to push that is so you could scream “see look you want me to care about you” or whatever cringe line you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:35 PM
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Again no one has asked you if you would try to date men who don’t want you. The post is about you actually caring if the men you found to be attractive were the ones opting out of dating and not the ugly ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:15 PM
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It’s not. Men deciding to opt out of dating means that they were involved at some point and could become involved again. Being gay was never an active choice they decided to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:11 PM
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It’s quite easy to see the premise of this discussion is hypothetical. That’s irrelevant. Saying “I don’t care” to a post about how you would isn’t an agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:09 PM
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It’s absolutely disgusting to write other human beings off as defective, losers, who won’t be missed because of their genetics. But it’s good for men to hear what you actually think. At least you were truthful. What a great comment to prove the pills correct. You’ve just shown that you’re 100% selecting men based on genetics. No personality in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:06 PM
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Saying “I don’t care” to a post saying you would isn’t an agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:54 PM
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The fact of more attractive men deciding they don’t want to date would be a negative for you if it were to happen. You wouldn’t want this to happen. You want there to be more attractive men dating so you have a greater chance of dating one. Not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:41 PM
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Do I really need to explain that women value attractive high status men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:12 PM
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You aren’t. You literally said “I don’t care about that”. The op and I say that you would once attractive men get involved. You’re desperately looking for something to cry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:08 PM
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Your comment is irrelevant to the discussion. The point is that if this happened it would be a negative for you as it would make it more difficult to find an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:04 PM
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There isn’t a discussion about this actually happening. The post is saying that women want men to opt out of dating because they imagine that only the unattractive men are doing so. If attractive men were doing this they would not be supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:00 PM
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And this is why I added that this won’t resonate with women. You’re saying you’re ok with fewer options because you feel that you will always have options regardless. Men do not feel this way because most do not have the same luxury of options that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:55 PM
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This is not about dating a man that doesn’t want to be with you. That wasn’t even mentioned.. Attractive men starting a movement to opt out of dating is not a good thing. It’s not something that you want to happen. You shouldn’t want to be put in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:37 PM
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I’m not telling you what to do you asked why you would care. If attractive men started saying they don’t want anything to do with women that means there are less attractive men for you to date. That means it’s harder for you to find attractive men to date. This would be a negative for you. But again you will not experience the level of scarcity that men will so this isn’t going to resonate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:34 PM
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If attractive men were to opt out of dating that would mean you have less options and a smaller chance of finding a man. This would not be a good thing. The difference is that women have such a wealth of options they don’t care. They can’t imagine struggling to attract men to date. They can always find a partner easily. Men cannot. They have very few options so when things negatively affect their dating pool they actually care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:13 PM
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This is a disgustingly privileged bias. Someone with autism is a defective loser that won’t be missed due to the way they were born? Who says shit like this? You are in no way qualified to call anyone a “loser”. All this means is that you don’t like them which means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:05 PM
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You continue to lose the plot. Again a man being authentic is not a solution when it’s causing him to be rejected. The man being authentic IS what women don’t forgive because they aren’t attracted to who these men are. You are the perfect example of why I’m correct. You dated red pill men. This solution got them some form of a relationship even if it was them spending all of their energy to portray the man you want. Them being authentic results in nothing but rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:34 PM
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This is where the virtue signaling and lies come in. Unfortunately you won’t forgive any flaws. You will try to find a man who has none. If your ideal man was simply just authentic then no man would struggle in dating. The red pill wouldn’t exist. No man would be rejected for being who they are. That is not reality. There are men, a lot of men, who do not attract women with who they authentically are and never have. They have to change who they are to attract women. If they can’t then they will …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:54 PM
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You’re saying no shit to concepts you completely missed. Don’t ask oblivious questions if you don’t like the answer. You’ve told men what the ideal man is. If they aren’t that authentically then they have no other option than to try to be that. This isn’t men pretending to desire women like you said it is. Men do desire women. The inauthentic man will endlessly have more success than the authentic man because the inauthentic man is closer to what you actually want. You’ve set this standard and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:46 PM
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A man is not responsible for a woman’s decision on who she will date and find attractive. A man does not determine or control your decisions. You can’t be authentic when women don’t like who you are. Being authentic IS the turn off. There is nothing red pill about pretending to like you. It’s about being the dominant, masculine, and successful man that causes the women they like to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:24 PM
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This is sad that men have to create a full fake persona just to be accepted by women. Of course they’re frustrated and angry. Anyone would be. What you left out is that when they aren’t putting on the masculine act they go right back to being ignored. Thats the reason they started in the first place. Stuck in a lose lose situation yet still they face the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:33 PM
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You haven’t explained anything other than you don’t understand someone you’re in a relationship putting their needs above yours is a problem. You are exactly the person the comment I replied to is talking about and you have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:21 PM
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You’re literally praising people for not caring about you.. We are at the point that I’m explaining how the person you’re in a relationship with putting you below them is a problem. Dating is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:50 PM
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Clearly. You’re calling the incentive to others to not give a shit and put their needs first over their partners by spouting that anyone who doesn’t is a people pleasing doormat a good thing. You’re saying this isn’t a problem so you should enjoy them not giving a shit about you and being a low priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:22 PM
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That’s incredible if you enjoy anyone you date to care more about what they get and not give a shit about you then want to incentivize this by calling others weak doormats if they don’t. Not great for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:31 AM
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I’m replying to the comment taking about putting your partner first. It’s a common theme now to look at men who put women first as doormats and paint them as weak. People are incentivized not to care or pretend not to care about their partner and always put their issues first. That’s a problem. One of many which is why dating is in the extremely poor state it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:33 PM
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Having hobbies that the other sex is passionate about is what you mean. We can use your definition. If a man is an expert at some video game like league of legends most women will not care or find him more attractive because of it. Yet he needed to fail and learn in order to become good at his hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:15 PM
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What was said is it’s incredibly difficult for men to succeed in sex and dating. When the difference between men who are succeeding and men who are not was asked physical attractiveness was answered. That is the main difference other than status. That doesn’t mean only physically attractive men are the only ones to ever be in a relationship. Woman want to date attractive men. That’s not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:41 PM
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I just saw another comment in this sub calling guys a doormat for putting the woman first. Yet there’s totally nothing wrong with dating now according to blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:26 PM
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No, yours don’t. They aren’t special. The same ones repeating how great “average” men are doing will be the same ones who bash men for it being so obvious that women will reject them to date attractive men. You want to act superior now due to race and because you think you aren’t poor as if you can do no wrong in relationships. Yet you’ll be taking about how you were cheated on and treated like shit by your exes as soon as it’s time to be the victim and bash men. You play whatever the side of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:11 PM
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Women aren’t attracted to because you’re “being kind”. This solves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:42 PM
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You’re saying this none for the sake of tour argument. Once a woman speak in dating issues you aren’t saying this to them or you’re going silent. That’s not how these discussions or this sub goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:08 AM
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The red pill is correct on their assessment of the current state of dating. Their solution of get rich and buff is a fraud. They don’t have a real solution. The blue pill is needed because ignorance is bliss. If you believe the good guy always wins and gets his dream woman at the end of the movie you can enjoy things more without knowing the ugly truth of what’s actually happening. Eventually you realize Santa wasn’t real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:47 PM
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No, when a woman can’t find a partner she’s a 10/10, she’s a queen, she deserves better, men are trash. No one is saying anything like this directly to women except maybe red pill men in subs like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:41 PM
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You haven’t stated one fact. These are your feelings and completely false. You don’t like “red pill men” so you don’t want them to get women. Attractive men get dates at a higher rate. Unattractive men get rejected more. No one give a shit if a man is a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:36 PM
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If someone isn't having success, it's ultimately their fault. This is the common response given to men having a negative experience that I’ve been saying is made. Yet there are people here pretending that it’s not. It’s not being misread. With women it’s because of men. When women can’t find a man on a dating app it’s because men are trash. If men can’t he needs to improve his profile or become healthy enough to connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:56 PM
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There are more than 2 possible negative outcomes.. it really doesn’t matter. Men know that anything that they will face the blame of whatever happens regardless if it’s their fault or not. It’s just not going to be something you will experience or understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:39 PM
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There is no reading into people flat out saying it’s their personality’s that’s the problem to men. If people were ok with not putting the blame on men they would accept that women reject them for being short or whatever immutable characteristic they have. But they don’t. The reason is always placed on a changeable characteristic in order to do exactly that. Blame the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:28 PM
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You’re copying the other account now by narrowing everything to just abuse when it’s not even the topic. That’s not going to do anything. All negative outcomes for both men and women in dating are sent to be the fault of the man. You’ve don’t get to cherry pick only the most extreme option of abuse for women and what you think is the lightest option for men being rejection. You’ve just done exactly this. When a man’s negative experience is brought up you say it’s no one’s fault. When a woman’s i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:14 PM
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That’s not the response given to men. When they fail on dating they face the blame. But even if we use just your response. When a man experiences negative outcomes it’s no one’s fault. When a woman does its “Why are women responsible for the actions of a man?”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:58 PM
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It’s not about what you think is fine. I can guarantee no one facing constant rejection will tell you it’s fine or a good thing. It’s universally seen as a negative experience. You only like it because you are the one doing the rejecting. The topic is whose fault the rejection is. Which always falls to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:20 PM
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It’s not about justifying who is right. It’s about who is at fault and who caused it. Both of these are negative and bad outcomes to whoever receives them. Rejection is a bad thing when it’s happening to you. This is why the rejection happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:10 PM
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A guy saying they’re 5’5 and have ‘no problem’ attracting women. Women saying most men are in relationships and they all somehow know ugly men with gorgeous women. Telling men they are unattractive because they have a shit personality. These all go past advice. There’s always a clear placement of blame on the man as to any failure with women being his responsibility. What you said of being unlucky or that it sucks is the most realistic and true answer but that is just never how it plays out and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:07 PM
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It’s very bad, for the person being rejected. An abuser doesn’t think what they’re doing is a bad thing either since they’re getting what they want out of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:01 PM
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That’s not at all what happens. You’ll see “It’s because of your personality. It’s your approach. It’s your fashion. It’s your hygiene. I know so many short ugly men with gorgeous wives. Normal men have no issues dating. My ex was 4”11 there’s no excuse. Just look at Walmart.” No one is telling men it’s ok and they’re simply unlucky. This sub would be empty if that was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:54 PM
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Where is the argument that rejection is abuse? Can you quote me? I just told you that this entire post is about any negative outcome yet you keep spamming abuse. It’s not just abuse. If any negative outcome is the fault and responsibility of the person who did the action like YOU said it is then men aren’t responsible for being rejected or failing in dating. Men aren’t responsible for being cheated on, manipulated or being divorced because the woman did the action according to you. The problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:48 PM
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This is not just abuse. This is not one action that’s done. This is any negative outcome. By your logic all men’s rejections are the woman’s fault because they performed the action in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:31 PM
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Nothing in this post mentions abusers. That is not the only form of a negative dating outcome. Negative dating outcomes are not limited to just women receiving them. The only thing you’ve done here is absolve women of any responsibility in their negative dating outcome that you hand selected. Just like the post says. Men aren’t born with all of the knowledge to attract women. Nor are all of them born with the genetics to attract them either. Yet if they fail or experience negative outcomes it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:22 PM
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Having money does not make women become attracted. Strippers and escorts are not attracted to the men who pay them. They just want the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:58 PM
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This only applies to attractive men who are so awkward that women can’t get past it. It does not make unattractive men become attractive. Most of this would be overlooked anyway for tall attractive men if it’s not that bad. The second issue is that there is no concrete definition for any of this. People cannot define or teach the attractive way of walking, speech style, or how to sit. They just know “it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:54 PM
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They have to be. They must attribute all failures of dating to men’s choices under their control. This allows them to blame men for every rejection and breakup they have. That’s why every response to men’s dating failure is that it’s not because of his looks and is because of his personality. They will frame every situation as one that the man could have gotten the woman if he did ____.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:41 PM
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I hope this was said to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:20 AM
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You’re living in a fantasy land where everyone will accept you no matter who you are. That’s not reality. Both men and women respect men who are attractive and have many relationships more. There is no way you couldn’t see that the guy dating the most attractive women is more respected by society in general than the single guy who can’t find a relationship. Theres no way you don’t see that gay people infinitely face more conflict and pushback from society in general compared to a normal straight…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:14 PM
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You can try to find a small group but you’re still going to be severely outnumbered. The problem I’m pointing out is society at large does not agree with you and you will not be able to avoid that many people. Someone who is gay will experience exactly what I was talking about. A constant fight with society to demand your beliefs should be accepted. I would not tell someone who is gay what you told me that people ultimately don’t care and only care about how they treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:27 PM
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I’m trying to keep this simple as clearly critical thinking is new to you. This would require you to have life experience beyond nerds in a discord server 8 hours a day. Men need to be physically attractive and display social status. This will attract women. They don’t have to hide shit. If you actually knew any men considered tall and physically attractive with status you can watch how women flock to them regardless of what views they display. This isn’t causing them to be lonely. If you could …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:05 PM
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No man would want a woman just because she’s a good person and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. of course there has to be enough of a mutual attraction. Then you can also see that the red pill is not why men are lonely as she was saying. The red pill is just the side effect of a larger attraction issue that men increasingly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:44 AM
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This is what reality is. What’s considered normal in society is getting married and having a relationship. How are you arguing against this? It’s universally known. When you don’t follow these norms people look at you differently as you don’t fit in. Society is nothing but social status games. Most aren’t going to say this outloud. You did not fully read everything because I said I don’t place value on men’s ability to attract women. That doesn’t mean I can’t be aware of how society operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:35 AM
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If you don’t think that people treat you differently based on your relationship status and who your partner is you don’t understand society. You don’t decide how others value you. It’s not your decision. Men respect other men more depending on the women they have. Women value men based on other women wanting him. If you can’t acknowledge social proof there is no discussion to be had. Real life is not a Disney movie where everyone gets the same amount of love and respect because they’re good peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:18 PM
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The red pill is not the reason that men are lonely. It’s not the cause of anything. It’s an ideology that men who are lonely find. When you can’t attract women and you try to research how to do so the red pill is what will be found. They don’t have an answer but they also don’t cause the issue in the first place. They’re found because they’re the only ones who acknowledge men’s issues and claim to have a solution. Attractive men can have the most disgusting red pill views and still attract women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:01 PM
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There is not an answer for this. This is a recipe for disaster. I don’t attribute any value to a man’s relationship status or ability to attract women. Society does whether they say it out loud or not. So now it’s a constant battle of me feeling men are worthy of respect even with no women and fighting society that pushes the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:39 PM
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The problem is there are not plenty of ways. These are rare occurrences if you’re beyond college. If an average man goes to a bar, club, or run club and does not initiate an approach then women will not talk to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:37 PM
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It’s not confusing, it’s not viable. You don’t just lock eyes with women and automatically fall in love. You need to approach them. And telling men to just go outside because someone else will find them and pair them with single women attracted to them is nothing close to what will realistically happen. These are extremely rare circumstances. Not regular occurrences. You will need to approach by starting a conversation if you expect to meet women using this route. They aren’t going to approach y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:38 PM
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This doesn’t make sense. You’re telling men who can’t attract or find women to avoid apps and just go outside to meet women in real life yet you’re not suggesting they approach women. Women aren’t approaching either. This advice is bound for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:33 PM
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Sure, people occasionally do. You talk to someone for 10 minutes and never see them again. Who is this helping?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:30 PM
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What makes you think single women at a bar looking to date aren’t outnumbered by the number of single men there? Cold approach is also exceptionally hard and success is low. You’re trading one low success method for another. There’s no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:26 PM
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They want to sound cool or brave. Have no opportunity through apps or friends so there is no other option. The fantasy that women will swoon over your personality because you’ve talked to her in person. Believing this idea that you’re the hero who was the only guy that dared to be brave enough to approach thinking she’ll be impressed by that while you were the 5th guy that night. Guys who don’t realize women don’t want to be approached by 99% of male strangers they don’t know. Men who still thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:24 PM
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If a man is trying to change how he acts in order to attract women it’s be because what he does and says naturally is not attracting women. They’ve already gone through the period of saying whatever they want and saw no results. You and the op are telling men to continue doing what has failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:45 PM
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It’s just virtue signaling at this point. Women choose attractive men with status. There is no reason to pretend it’s impossible for women to think they can do better in terms of height, looks, money, status, and it’s only about the way men treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:34 AM
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When you talk to women and especially enter a relationship with them they tell you about all of the guys that approach them, hit on them, dm them. This is not what I think you will actually see this. You’ve just done the same. You went from you don’t date men because they don’t make a move to “handsome men approach me but I reject them because they had bad intentions.” You do get approached and reject men. Now you’re virtual signaling about how it’s not possible for women to reject men based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:55 AM
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Let’s be clear. I established that looks are important. You said it’s not about looks. What I’m talking about is the only important piece. It's not about looks, status and money. And more about treatment in terms of doing better. You could find someone who likes the same things you like. You could find someone who is affectionate. You aren’t looking to find someone who likes the same things as you. You aren’t looking to find someone who’s affectionate. You are looking to find someone who’s attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:59 PM
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Women don’t simply date men because they approached. If your standards are that low that you date any man who approaches you then you are nowhere near the baseline. The most successful men in dating are the most physically attractive and high status. This has nothing to do with what women’s preference I think is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:52 PM
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No one has told you to wait for women to approach and initiate. When you ask them out they will answer based on your attractiveness. Women aren’t going to melt because you were one of the 10 guys who approached them this week. The answer is not simply just make a move and they’ll be attracted. If women said yes to every guy I’d have plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:45 PM
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Then I should be quoting anyone saying “it’s not about looks” when it is. Assertive and polarizing are just buzzwords attributed to men who are physically attractive due to the halo effect. They mean nothing if they aren’t accompanied by looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:12 PM
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You’re not dating any man simply because he made a move. You’ve rejected men before. You’re dating the men who are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:09 PM
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So telling them they can do better will not in any way be interpreted by them as being advised to break up? If you felt someone can make their own decisions you wouldn’t be telling them they can do better in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:37 PM
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It’s common sense that dating is about looks but you just said it’s not about looks? I’m not the one who said it wasn’t. It’s not just about treatment. Looks, money, and status are all under consideration when women want to do better. More than treatment. If a women receives interest from taller, better looking, more successful men and sees her peers getting the same she will start to feel she can do better in all of these areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:24 PM
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You telling them they can do better means they should leave. If you are telling them they can do better you are advising they shouldn’t be together. The question isn’t framed. It’s true. You judge partners more harshly than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:03 PM
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You said It's not about looks, status and money. And more about treatment in terms of doing better. More importantly It's not about looks, Now you’re saying You SHOULD date and romance someone you are ATTRACTED to. These are two contradicting statements. So yes it is about looks and you’ve just admitted so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:55 PM
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This is proving the ops point. The fact that you’re in other women’s business to the point you’re telling them they can do better is demonstrating how women judge their partners and friends more harshly than men do. Exactly as the op said. Men telling other men what to do with their relationships is rare and if they do it’s probably not going to be telling them to break up. It’s going to be advice on how to keep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:23 PM
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It is about looks, status, and money. If it weren’t you would be dating all of your male friends who are nice, treat you well, and like the same things you do. There would never be a case of a rejected male friend who you think is a great guy that you wouldn’t date if it wasn’t about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:17 PM
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I just did. Twice. I also directly quoted you so you can’t back out by saying this isn’t your point. It’s directly quoted. The first is deciding what counts as a "reasonable" standard. You’ve already admitted men’s standards are more easily obtainable so they are clearly more reasonable which is why men say this. And then turn around and look at how women's standards get treated. They get treated as unreasonable because men have more reasonable standards. The second is deciding who's allowed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:20 PM
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You don’t get to remove everyone’s ability to determine what’s reasonable because you now have the upper hand. Do men get to oppress you and then turn around and tell you it’s not reasonable for you to want better? You’re ok with them telling you no one has the power to decide what’s reasonable? It’s blatantly clear what’s reasonable. A simple standard that allows a majority to participate vs a rigid standard that prevents a majority from participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:08 PM
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You can’t just back out because I’ve dismantled your argument. Actually you did by admitting men have more reasonable standards. Let’s use direct quotes that you said so there is no more backing out. The first is deciding what counts as a "reasonable" standard. You’ve already admitted men’s standards are more easily obtainable so they are clearly more reasonable which is why men say this. And then turn around and look at how women's standards get treated. They get treated as unreasonable because…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:47 PM
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It’s exactly what your post is about. You don’t understand that men do everything you’ve outlined because of this. Men tell you that their standards are reasonable because they are more easily met than yours. This is why men criticize women’s standard as your post is exactly about. If a women sets a standard of a 6’2 man that’s not my fault. It’s hers. Theres nothing I can do about that. If a man sets a standard of not being fat or promiscuous that’s your fault. You had complete control over tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:35 PM
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And? You’ve just destroyed your post by doing so. If you admit that women’s standards are difficult to reach while men’s aren’t then you understand why men feel their standards are more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:16 PM
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This. Reddit pretends that if you know women they will then automatically introduce you to all these single women wanting to date you. Not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:08 PM
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It’s not the man’s fault either. The point he made is it’s very easy for you to meet men’s general standards. It’s very difficult for men to meet women’s general standards. Yet I promise you will never admit that you have it easier. Men talk about women’s standards this way because men’s standards can realistically be met by most women if they tried while women’s standards cannot be easily met by most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:58 PM
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You now have an entire culture dedicated to looks maxing now of men trying to be as physically attractive as they possibly can. Before that you had pickup artists. Men will dedicate their lives to attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:55 PM
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They are ugly so they have to pay. He’s considered physically attractive. You don’t need to pay women to be attracted to tall men with money and status….
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:51 PM
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At this point we’ve now gone beyond effort. If effort brought women I’d have plenty. That’s the only point I’m making. Some men don’t really need this level of effort. They just do these things naturally. The very little feedback I’ve gotten I’ve done. Majority of feedback I’ve gotten is positive saying I’d make a great partner which is no help and probably empty platitudes. There isn’t much feedback to give because I’ve maxed out everything I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:47 AM
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I don’t need to be told to go to the gym. These guys can’t outfit or out run me and neither can the people who say this. I don’t need to be told about hygiene or clothes. I’ve spent more money and time on both than these people have. I can call these men low effort because I know for a fact they aren’t even close to me and can’t compare. I can promise you I’ve invested more unable you could think of. My life revolves around productivity and getting better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:25 AM
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Yes. Pointing out that women don’t have to do these things doesn’t mean that men refuse to. They’re calling out the imbalance which is true. When you’ve put in the effort and see women continue to pick others who didn’t you’ll quickly realize it never mattered at all. I’ll tell you the exact same thing they do about dating apps. I’ve done both. Approaching 20 women at a club makes no difference. Both options suck and have a very low rate of success and I’d probably stand a better chance on apps.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:45 PM
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The problem is most men are or were in scenario 1 yet you have people like the op and most blue pill treating them like scenario 2. Either they tried and got nowhere or are doing it and getting nowhere. If you speak on how your efforts never paid off it’s “whining” and you’re told you need to put in effort by some dickhead who hasn’t put in half of what you do. The amount of effort isn’t the issue yet the blame will always be put there to justify rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:33 PM
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10 + 2 =12
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 09:06 PM
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That’s not how the market operates. You add from the price you bought. There are only 2 numbers. The price you bought and the price you sold. Nothing that happens in between matters. I cannot stand inept morons who speak on shit they know nothing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:33 PM
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You bought at 10. The current price is 12. You gained 2. The fact that it was temporary at 5 does not affect anything. You have no clue how the market operates and might be the dumbest piece of shit I’ve ever encountered that can’t do basic math.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:04 PM
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Again you have to sell the stock to lose money. If you buy a stock at 10 and it crashed to 5 then recovers to 12 how much money did you lose? You bought it at $10 and sold at $12 what’s the answer? Millions of people use the market for retirement funds yet this is not its purpose because a few rich people have more wealth invested…. And that’s exactly what you said I quoted you word for word you don’t get retirement funds from the Stock Market Tell me what a dividend is. You literally are paid c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:22 PM
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God you are fucking stupid. A crash does not diminish your gains if it fully recovers. That’s the main purpose it serves today. Do you think you can retire without the market. You said you don’t get retirement funds from the stock market. These funds literally provide and produce money. Yes money comes from the market. But what would I expect from a stupid fuck who can’t tell me what a dividend is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:01 PM
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No, you don’t lose money if you didn’t sell you fucking dipshit. You completely skipped that the price recovered to 12. You bought at 10 and the price is now 12. The fact that it crashed to 5 temporarily is irrelevant you moron. You also literally said “you don’t get retirement funds from the Stock Market”. The mere existence of 401ks literally prove this wrong. No shit 401ks were not always there. That’s what the market is for now. I already knew this. It doesn’t change anything that I’ve said.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:57 PM
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You’re not even close. When the market crashes you don’t automatically lose anything.. You don’t even understand that you have to actually BUY and SELL stocks. Crashes are temporary. If you buy a stock at $10 and I crashes do $5 then recovers back to $12 you didn’t lose money. I’m literally teaching you basic addition and subtraction….. When the market recovers you gain the money back. You can’t comprehend that. Yes the purpose of the stock market is literally to provide retirement funds. You do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:53 PM
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It’s not incorrect you’ve just quoted exactly what I just fucking told you. Your point was that the average man goes out to hobbies and social events 7 nights a week which isn’t remotely realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:49 AM
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You’re full of shit. You started with hobbies and house parties and said you go out 4+ NIGHTS a week. Now you’re taking about conferences and board meetings like they’re a fucking house party.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:43 AM
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Those aren’t socializing events or hobbies men are doing for fun. Those are responsibilities….
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:35 AM
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This is what happens when you’ve been embarrassed and have no response. You can’t point out one single flaw of anything I’ve said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:32 AM
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Are you joking? Yes, the average man is out 5-7 times a week. I saw average men out all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:44 AM
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You want to be different so badly but you aren’t. Having power because you were born a female does not make you a leader. They actively use that power to find men who will lead and direct them. This isn’t about me it’s about women in general. They want and are attracted to leaders which is backed by studies which shouldn’t be necessary since this is common sense. Approaching a woman and planning a date is not weak. It’s a requirement of you want to attract them. You’re crying about data when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:41 AM
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Anyone who isn’t at events 7 days a week is now a loner and totally not average. Super realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:32 AM
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Are you joking? You seeing average men out does not mean they are going out every day of the fucking week. You do understand normal people are busy 8-10 hours a day right? When you get into the real world you don’t do whatever you want all day. This sounds like an irresponsible clown who has no idea how people with responsibilities function. On top of that you have zero understanding of the value of alone time. Couldn’t imagine how fucking annoying it would be to put up with you. You know jack s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:28 AM
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If there is a legitimate social skill expert for men to attract women I have never seen it. When you look you’re nearly always going to end up at some podcaster selling a course. If you’re aware of this and it’s not for teaching basics to those with disabilities I’ve never seen it. But really what I want is those complaining about men’s social skills to define exactly what is missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:35 PM
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This is a classic result of your inflated ego and worth due the current dating market. Sadly proving the red pill right again. This isn’t a conflict genius, it’s the dating process. You aren’t a leader in dating, you all choose not to be. Women hold the power in the dating market and choose men who lead them. If you actually speak to women or even look at what they want you’d see the constant repeated requests for a “man who can lead” a “man who can plan a date”. The fact that you are even debat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:16 PM
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Im sure you did that’s great. You’ve just said you do these 4 nights a week and go out with friends 3 times a week on top of that. The average man is not going out 5-7 times a week. The most extroverted who are constantly talking are. The average man has about 4 hours a night plus weekends and values his alone time. He’s not going out damn near every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:04 PM
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Confidence, charisma, personality, these people who bring this up can’t even explain or define what these are. They “just know”. If someone wants to come here demanding men to be taught social skills they should be able to define exactly what these men are missing down to the smallest detail. Anyone claiming to teach social skills is focused on the most basic training and is for those who have some type of disability. They aren’t coaching men to be more attractive to women. They’re teaching the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:58 PM
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That’s great you have all the free time in the world but this is supposedly what you, a woman does. Not what the average man does. The average man is not doing all of this shit and probably doesn’t have time to go out 4 nights a week. Great for college students with little responsibilities though. The average man will face a shit ton of rejections no matter how social he is so yes he will struggle to date and find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:24 PM
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You’ve had multiple people quote you. What this sounds like to me, is that you need to dictate even the smallest, inconsequential things in your relationship by the power of your penis…….its the little things. You’ve implied exactly what I’ve said. If you don’t know English that’s what you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:14 PM
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The use of the word “clearly” means that you’ve made it painfully obvious this is not your first language because you’ve used it so poorly. You demonstrate you have no idea what the stock market is. It’s existed for over 100 years and not only survived but recovered from every fucking crash. A crash does not mean you automatically lose money. You don’t understand how stupid it sounds to use the example of men creating a financial system that’s spanned hundreds of years and provides millions of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:07 PM
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Right let’s make a scientific study on dating app prompts because people don’t have enough common sense to actually read the profiles. Let’s get some scientific studies to prove the sky is blue also. It’s not just dating apps that’s one example. Women constantly say this. You’re sheltered if you’ve never heard this. Initiating is leading. Approaching is leading. Planning a date is leading. Picking a location is leading. Your mental gymnastics don’t change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:57 PM
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Yes I said it’s clearly not your first language. Clearly because you have no clue what you’re saying or talking about and I need to explain basic concepts like this to you. Again crashes are not a bad thing like you think they are. Blaming them on men accomplishes nothing. It’s a normal part of the market. Men are responsible for all market recoveries and creating the stock market. What tf did you even think you proved by saying this? Other than you having not clue what the stock market is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:29 PM
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What you’ve implied is his penis is one of the little things which is what you referenced right before saying. Now you’re trying to backtrack out of what you said. What’s singular and plural is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:24 PM
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Yeah English is clearly not your language. You pointing out the stock market crashing is completely irrelevant and worthless. You’ve proven nothing and have no point. You don’t have the slightest clue as to these topics you’re discussing and it’s painfully obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:03 PM
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There has been no flipping. I saw what you said and called you out. Nothing changed. You gain nothing from backtracking other than looking like a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:00 PM
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You clearly did not realize that blaming men for stock market crashes is not the negative you thought it was as this is a normal occurrence. The irony is it’s YOU that’s only picked one side and refuse to acknowledge the positives. Because if you did then your whole narrative of the world being such a terrible place because of men becomes bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:58 PM
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Yes and this is implying that he is included as one of those little things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:55 PM
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If you understood that crashes are a normal part of the market and it does not go up in a straight line you wouldn’t be using it as an issue to blame men for. You would understand it’s a non issue and using it as a slight against men is pointless. If men caused all of the crashes then men caused all of the recoveries. You conveniently ignore all of the positives men created while also ignoring that you wouldn’t have done any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:25 PM
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The argument isn’t “I’m happier without my ex”. It’s “I’m happier being single period without men.” This very thread is a prime example. You people are delusional. I swear. I love being single. I would not ever in life live with a man again. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:10 PM
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And you were saying it’s one of those little things. We know exactly what you meant. You gain nothing by cowardly trying to back out of what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:08 PM
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Exactly. This is why op is correct. These women aren’t happy. They’re actually bitter and hateful. They are screaming how happy they are to prove a point and push back against narratives they don’t like. Not because they are actually happy. Society is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:54 PM
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Stock markets do not simply go up every day. That’s not what the market ever was. They crash and have recovered from each crash. This is the typical blue pill feminist narrative. Blaming stock market crashes on men yet ignoring the recoveries. Ignoring you would have no stock market without men. Complaining about how bad the world is and blaming it on me. while ignoring all of the advancements we’ve made because of men. This also ignores how you would not have done any better. Anyone can sit on …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:40 PM
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The insult was clear as day. You didn’t pick up on it and it flew over your head. The periods should have been a clear context clue. But reading comprehension right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:31 PM
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Unfortunately they do. If you are a man and don’t lead by approaching, initiating, planning the date, picking the location, you won’t attract women. It’s one of the most common dating app prompts for women to say they want a man who can lead. This is what they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:27 PM
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We need to teach social skills yet we can’t even define what they are. People can’t explain it because they “just know”. Women want men who lead. They’ve said it countless times. That’s what they’re attracted to. That’s what men must answer to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:23 PM
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Women see shy = bad. That’s why they’re repulsed by it and don’t want to date these men or want anything to do with them. That’s why what they call a good personality is actually an extroverted personality and has nothing to do with being a good person. Same thing with awkward. These are what women view as the most negative qualities. Not moral beliefs. It actually ended up being a great addition to this post. It proves that women don’t care about dating good men. They want traits that have noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:26 PM
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You all are so desperate to avoid this fact. Women have more options. Women are more picky. Women have higher standards. Women get approached. Women do the selecting. How can you understand the most basic details of dating and think anyone is going to believe you? The fact of women being more picky alone demonstrates that they will be the ones doing the rejecting. Yet men are rejecting women en mass despite them barely having any options to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:26 AM
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And this is why this “confuses you”. We aren’t just humans. We are living in completely different worlds separated by gender. You only understand one. Women absolutely refuse that they base their treatment and selection on looks. Men already understand this. When women start blaming them for it then it becomes an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:38 PM
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You do as a group. There is a large number of women who men deem attractive enough to date and a small number of women they wouldn’t. A large number of those so-called “ugly” women could loose weight to become attractive. There is a large number of men who women consider unattractive and a small number of men who are. Women are more picky. There are much more men who don’t get attention from the opposite sex than there are women. A 5/10 male will have a much harder time finding a date than a 5/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:27 PM
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They will become angry when you tell them this is happening because of their shit personality and not their looks. As you just did. That’s a male problem. Women aren’t told that and denied this is happening. The men who didn’t see it coming believed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:18 PM
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And this is why this problem exists. You will do anything to avoid acknowledging that you have a huge advantage and far easier time dating compared to men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:58 PM
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And this is exactly why men will oppose what you’re saying. It “confuses you” when inconveniences in your life can be attributed to your looks yet when it comes to men they can’t. It “confuses you” that you can’t talk shit about other people calling them an asshole and poorly trying to ragebait them about being “hurt” because they’ve explained reality to you. Yes I have the power not to put up with disrespect and call out the hypocrisy of what’s going on. If you accept people disrespecting you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:53 PM
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And you’ve done exactly what I’ve just said. I didn’t ask you for anything. I don’t need other people to tell me to improve. I’ve already put in more effort than they have without anyone telling me. I said if men told you this. Not women. And saying “oh he’s nice to me” is not anything like attributing the outcome of the situation to your moral failings and being a shit person when you had no control over the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:36 PM
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Because when this happens the response is not empathy or understanding. There is no acknowledgment men having a more difficult time in dating. Its met with an immediate assumption of the man being flawed morally. Of him doing wrong. That all of this is in his control. If men told you that you don’t get help at the store because you have a shit personality and looks don’t matter like you think they do then you would have an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:56 PM
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Because it doesn’t actually fix anything. There are important topics on female nature discussed but most men would have eventually learned elsewhere through experience. It’s for men who already have all of the tools necessary to succeed with women but somehow never did simple things like workout or approach women. That’s very few men. Men will be bitter when they learn the reality of nature and realize they can’t do anything about it. When you’ve done everything you’ve can to succeed and people …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:47 PM
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That’s why I said if you can. Then also said you need to find out if you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:07 PM
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That’s why I just said if you can. if you can If that’s what you have to do to get a relationship you do it. Not everyone lives with dating on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:41 PM
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I don’t care about outliers of women approaching men out of their league and getting rejected. It’s not common. I don’t care about what can possibly happen. If you can’t comprehend that men do the approaching and women do the rejecting you won’t be able to have this discussion. Men compete for women’s attention. Women select from the men who compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:13 PM
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Probably not but it can get you more attention than you would have gotten otherwise. It’s a lose lose situation but that’s why I said if you can do it you’ll choose that route because you get a relationship out of it which will outweigh the negatives but you need to find out if you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:04 PM
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What I’m saying is very true. You just don’t like hearing it. Men will wait months and years for sex. This only applies if you’re competing for top % men who have several options like women do as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:59 PM
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This justification is not being rejected and ghosted. Women aren’t the ones ghosted after one wrong move. They are the ones doing the rejecting. They do the selecting and have multiple men being considered. They do not have to jester unless they’re competing for a top % man who also has several options. Men come to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:51 PM
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When you’re one of 5 guys competing for a spot and one of them is doing backflips while you aren’t you just lost. When every situation becomes this you better start flipping or you’re going to keep loosing. There is no difference when every situation is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:55 AM
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No I don’t think you do because women initiate the break ups and divorces. Men do the approaching, the impressing, the initiation, and the women do the rejecting. Women have the large amount of options that allow them to treat men as disposable. This is nothing like what men experience unless you are dating the top men who also have several options and can afford to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:49 AM
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In the early stages of dating you have to impress as a man. And yes it’s exactly that, one slip up is the end of things and you’re ghosted. I’ve seen it far too often. When every date and interaction is like this it will become how you live. It’s a competition as there are 3+ other guys you’re in the mix with. This isn’t having a partner that you’re comfortable enough with to maybe relax and enjoy your time. If you’re actually in a relationship then hating dates is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:12 AM
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Yes some people never need to jump through hoops and date effortlessly which comes naturally. If you aren’t one of those people life is completely different and those on the other side are never going to understand you. They’re wasting time searching online because they know no where else to search
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:04 AM
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Then what is your issue with men here? They surely don’t think it should be like this either. They feel like jesters for a reason and it’s because that expectation is placed on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:12 PM
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It’s not that simple. You can’t just choose to not do it and live a touch deprived life full of isolation. It’s not a choice. If women demand that you be a source of entertainment then men must answer. It’s going to suck but if you can do that you’re going to choose it over complete deprivation of touch and romantic intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:08 PM
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You probably won’t be able to have this discussion because they cannot admit that they choose men based on looks and status. This sub is particularly bad with this topic and flip at the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:25 PM
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This is exactly what I’ve said. They struggle because they are unattractive. Not because they aren’t safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:26 AM
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If this were true then tall attractive violent men would all be single struggling with women and short weak docile men would not. That’s obviously not happening. You will not see a violent tall attractive man with status struggle with women. Because safety is not a priority. It’s a prop to claim you have it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:57 PM
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You need a source that women want to date attractive social men? You don’t know any attractive men? You’ve never seen a woman date a violent or dangerous man? You need more life experience not a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 08:09 PM
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Women want attractive men with social status. It’s not that hard to understand. If they have a roster of 5 men they will pick the one with the highest combination of attractiveness and status. They want the most attractive man they have available to them. Simple concepts shouldn’t need to be explained multiple times or be amusing. If this isn’t true tell me right now how ugly you think your husband is and how you chose the ugliest man over the attractive ones who wanted to date you. If you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:00 PM
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No. Women want tall attractive social men regardless of if they are safe or not. This is not a requirement or a priority of attraction. It doesn’t matter if unattractive men are safe or not. What matters is if they are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:32 PM
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Yes they all look for this. They can’t all get it. I’m not going to explain to you that women want attractive social men. This shouldn’t need to be explained. This is completely irrelevant to women failing to prioritize safety when selecting men. I’m not debating obvious irrelevant facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:29 PM
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There are obviously exceptions and outliers to everything. It’s common sense that women want attractive social men. If you don’t have any of these you will not do well with women period and will probably resort to low quality because most others did not want you. This is completely irrelevant. Safely is not even in the equation to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 04:09 PM
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Right women are out chasing short ugly men who no one knows while the popular tall attractive men are sitting in the corner being ignored and rejected by women. This is so realistic…. The bar is not in hell. It’s not low at all. It’s a widely excepted fact that women have higher standards. It’s pointless to pretend you have no standards. It’s said over and over again that women would rather be single than date men without these traits. Not settle because the bar is in hell and they have no stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 03:09 PM
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Only on Reddit do I need to explain that woman want attractive men with social status. This isn’t even an argument. I can’t believe I’m saying this and you have the nerve to talk about reality.. I’ve already told you if women think no men are safe and safety is their top priority then they shouldn’t be dating any men. Yet they do. Your example is irrelevant because there is not argument that all men are safe. It’s that safety is not required to attract women. If it was then the most peaceful, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:03 PM
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This would require you to actually read what I said and be able to understand that there is no argument that men are safe. You’re proving my point. Being safe is not required to attract women. These are the men who had wives.. Men who aren’t tall, attractive, and have no social status don’t attract women because they don’t have these things. Not because they aren’t safe. If women truly believed that no man is safe then they should date no men since safety is their top priority. It’s not. It’s a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:59 AM
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Sweetheart. This doesn’t dispute anything I’ve just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:17 PM
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If they are truly concerned about safety then this is what they’d be looking for signs of but it’s be tall, attractive, and display social status. Being safe is not required to attract women. I’m not claiming what should be but I’ve seen little indication that they value this when selecting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:46 PM
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Yet you’ve just said they aren’t dating any men which is the complete opposite of what you’re saying now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:37 PM
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Yet if I say this I’m told everyone is in relationships. Apparently if you check Walmart this will somehow be disproven according to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:22 PM
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I don’t ascribe to red pill. I ascribe to what I’ve learned and experienced through reality. It’s clear they have experienced the same. It’s because these experiences are common. You have zero authority to judge what a good person someone is because they’ve watched the most aggressive men be the most successful with women their entire life. It’s just another classic case of women don’t want to date you = bad. If danger was the top concern in dating then women would prioritize dating safe peacefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:19 PM
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You’re not even close. I emulate no one. I am who I want to be. The most aggressive men are always the most successful with women. I’ve watched it play out every single time. I have no desire to be aggressive 24/7 like they are which is a detriment to my success in dating. Those guys are mostly annoying dickheads that I want nothing to do with but I recognize thier success. You must be aggressive in order to be dominant. You cannot be passive quiet or shy and be dominant. No one is gong to liste…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:56 PM
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This is supposed to be in relation to dating. This is not a problem in dating because these same men are still getting relationships and receiving attraction from women. Women still reward them. If it was a problem then these would be the men struggling to find dates and not the peaceful non violent ones. The only problem is women reward men with this behavior and don’t prioritize safety as it does not spark attraction like looks and status do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:07 PM
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The same ones who can’t tell that they are dating abusers because they were tricked by them being nice at first?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 PM
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And? Women are more likely to date dominant, aggressive, tall, attractive, “charismatic” men. They don’t select men based on safety. They actually punish safe men for this casting them as boring because they want adventurous men with risky behavior since these men are exciting. Safe docile men are not in favor with women whatsoever. If you actually choose based on safety as a top priority this would be relevant. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:56 PM
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You asked what the solution is and who’s responsible. I told you. If you can’t handle reality don’t ask about it. I already understand all of this. I’m not the one asking. Categorizing men living a life of isolation void of human touch as “not fucking who they want” to downplay the issue because you’re terrified of having to admit it’s a growing problem. You are the definition of hypocrisy. You’re capable of admitting people can end up in bad situations outside of their control until it comes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:09 PM
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You completely did or else you would have agreed that poor people have agency and them being poor isn’t your responsibility. Yet now you back off from your attitude of not caring about what’s not your problem. The worst part is you know how hypocritical you are too which is why you said it. This is the reason the red pill exists. You can’t even admit that you completely rule out men before knowing anything about their personality and peddle the lie of personality saving unattractive men. Now men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:12 PM
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You can only see men who meet your bar of physical attraction. All of your advice is geared towards those men. Those men who do not are completely out of the equation no matter what their personality is. That is the argument. I don’t care if you’re honest because I already know what the truth is. Others like the op do. This is not my post asking for honesty. I’m pointing out to you that honesty is the topic and not a solution. Yes pointing out how your bad attitude and logic looks using poverty …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:35 PM
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Like I said. You can either be honest or you can continue the lie that these men will have a chance with you if they just improve. This post wasn’t asking for a solution it’s asking for honesty. Women are the ones who are approached. They make the decision of who is rejected and who’s not. You don’t get to deny you have a role in this while also determining the outcome. Why are those in poverty anyone’s problem but the poor? No one is guaranteed access to another person’s time and money. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:04 PM
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I know what attraction is. What your taking about it is completely pointless and irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:29 PM
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You’re creating your own quotes that aren’t direct text… There is no solution other than trying to date the most unattractive women. Telling men that they are rejected because of their personality when their personality never came into play is not a solution. Men are telling you they are filtered out before any of these changeable traits come into play to play because you all either dont understand this or avoid it. There is no point in you all weighing in. Personality is an important factor in …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 06:26 PM
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Men control what they do. Men cannot control what you do or who you reject. Who you approach and how you speak doesn’t mean shit if they reject you for reasons outside of your control which happened 10 years ago and still happens now. This isn’t a Disney movie. You telling men to focus on other aspects is completely worthless when that woman doesn’t find him attractive. You aren’t going to change a no into a yes by improving. You all don’t have a solution. There never was a solution. The problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:38 PM
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Obviously men filter by looks. What they don’t do is lie to women telling them they’d be attracted to them if they had a great personality instead. Women have the most interest, the most options, the most demand in dating. Most men do not. That is leverage and power. Life is not an even playing field. Yes attraction is fixed and purely genetic. Personality is only used to reject among men who have passed the genetic bar of attraction. Men do not control your decision of who you reject. How tf do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:04 PM
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That’s what looks are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:33 PM
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Women have complete power and control over the dating market. They determine who lives happily ever after and who goes home alone. Them reconsidering what they find attractive isn’t possible. What now is that you actually tell the truth in that men are filtered out by looks before any of these long term intangible traits are known. Men do not suddenly get up and decide they’re now going to be attractive to women because they’re responsible. Effort does not equal attraction. Men do not have a sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:28 PM
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And this is exactly why this post was made. Men are filtered out because of looks far before they can display any of these characteristics. Once a women deems you unattractive you aren’t going to change the results. You’re unwilling to admit the role of looks being the deciding factor and you’ve made it obvious your intent is to keep the blame on men by flat out stating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:55 PM
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This post is more about being honest and not kinder. If a man is romantically lonely women will blame it on his controllable factors like “personality” as if he can change everything necessary to start attracting women. The answer is never that it’s his looks holding him back and there is little he can do to change women’s mind on him. If women acknowledged that being attractive is the determining factor in dating then they acknowledge they are the ones deciding the outcome and cannot shift blam…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:12 PM
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There are people literally asking for a source for this information on this post. Even if you tell them they’re unaware.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:34 PM
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Damn this is so sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:43 PM
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The current state of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:06 PM
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Being a part of the problem of the current state of dating and not shifting the issue to blame 100% of it on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:44 PM
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If you look at the average woman’s dating app you’ll also see an endless line of respectful men who are not making lewd or derogatory comments with 15% body fat being rejected or completely ignored. You’re in a sea of men just like you said. They can ignore the good men for the better and ignore the better for the best. That’s the difference. They did not have a sea of men to choose from in 1960. It does not matter that you added a ton of 28% body fat men to the pool when you’ve also added a han…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:02 PM
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Women will never give direct or unflattering communication. They’d be proving the red pill correct about their nature. Their answer will always be to virtue signal to prop up the women are perfect image. Most direct communication involves men being told they’ll never have a chance with her no matter what they do. Of course men are going to be upset if women actually told them they don’t find them attractive because of their height or appearance. That direct communication is going to reveal that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:56 PM
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It’s honestly pathetic that you have such a you can’t pick up the simplest discussion. Me describing the reality of what men face is not pathetic. What pathetic is that I need to explain such basic shit to people like you that have no idea what’s happening. Do I need to teach you how to wash your hands next? Clearly we’re talking about women when dating is the topic that should be fucking obvious. That’s not obsessed. Choosing to be a monkey is totally irrelevant. The point is it’s 100% valid to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:16 PM
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It’s not even being a doormat it’s letting women have their way. If you don’t she’s probably leaving. That’s great that you stood up to her but now you’re alone and you have nothing. The point is the outcome is not that women crying for another chance with you as the op says. The outcome is her leaving and you being alone because you didn’t give her her way. Idk who this “you” is but women are in complete control of the dating market and they are responsible for determining what what they want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:33 PM
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The most logical explanation. Women aren’t crying and begging for another chance when an average guy she’s casually dating kicks her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:47 AM
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I haven’t seen this help at all. The highly repeated concept of “backbone” doesn’t really get you anywhere unless she’s so loyal she’ll let you which is a level of loyalty that most men don’t get. I’ve told women no plenty of times. And it always is followed by a shitstorm of complaining, arguments, and attitude. Nothing positive came from it. Arguing on a regular basis is not a win. If I kick a woman out she leaves and does not talk to me again. If I don’t do what is asked of me in an early tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:45 PM
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It’s reality. I can’t change this. I have no control over this. It says nothing about me. Multiple people have told you that bars and clubs are filled with men swarming women just like dating apps. When it comes to actual effort and drive you’ll never beat me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:27 PM
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They have no idea. “All of my male friends have no issues dating”. That’s all they know. Either they pay so little attention they don’t realize and assume all single men are doing so by choice or these men are invisible to them or they think dating is the same for men as it is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:56 AM
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They have no idea. “All of my make friends have no issues dating”. That’s all they know. Either they pay so little attention they don’t realize and assume all single men are doing so by choice or these men are invisible to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:56 AM
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It feels nearly impossible to get a 1 on 1 interaction without interruption. At a bar women are very rarely alone and always in a group an engaged in conversation. It’s the same at parties. If you catch her for the split second of the night she’s free you might get 5 minutes. Also majority of women out now go out with their partner. It’s extremely difficult to find single women now and when you do it feels like it’s still 80% guys because you’re fighting with the crowd of other single guys who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:17 AM
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Get rid of your car and go the rest of your life with only walking then and see how dumb you feel when you don’t last a week. Your question is irrelevant and it’s proven nothing. You do not have any abortion risk if you do not have sex. Now avoid this again because you have nothing to say. If you have an issue with the risk of abortion and sex is not a need why don’t you and any woman who’s worried about this stop having sex? You have no rebuttal. If you have an issue with the risk of abortion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:16 AM
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Another low intelligence response. Driving is a need. How the fuck do you think the hundreds and thousands of medics, nurses, and doctors get to the hospital? They all fucking walk? How do you think all essential personnel get to where they need to be to serve you? Thousands of people walk? You could not go your entire life without using a car again. Your question is fucking irrelevant and moronic. I said the answer is to go without sex and your rebuttal is “don’t I deserve care if I have sex?” …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:01 AM
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You said driving is not a need. That literally involves all driving genius. You personally would not be able to go your entire life without ever driving again either. You’ve lost another terrible argument. If contraceptions and abortions are banned that should be no issue with you. Since sex is not a need and you can go without it you can stop having sex and this will not be an issue. There was never an argument of “I want to have sex”. For the 7th time. The argument is that if you don’t need se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:50 AM
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How do you think the food gets to the store? How do you think you get transported to medical facilities? How do you think the medics gets to the hospital? Everyone fucking walks? How the fuck am I explaining to you that your entire world cannot function without transportation? How fucking stupid is it to think you don’t need to brush your teeth? If you have an issue with the risk of abortion and sex is not a need why don’t you and any woman who’s worried about this stop having sex? You have no r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:46 PM
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If brushing your teeth isn’t a need then go your entire life without it. Driving is a need. Who tf do you think is going to deliver products to you if they can’t drive? Stop pretending that that everything you need is in walking distance. Again for the 6th time there is no risk when you don’t have sex. The woman does not have sex with her husband. It’s not an option. The women doesn’t get what she wants. You don’t get a family because you’ve declared sex is not a need. I’m literally telling you …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 11:29 PM
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Go the rest of your life without ever driving again. You don’t get rides because no one is driving. Tf do you think is going to happen when no one drives? Try going your entire life without brushing your teeth and see what happens. You cannot classify needs as only being thing that you immediately die from. You still have no rebuttal to what I said. If sex is not a need and you can go without it you can simply stop having sex if abortion is a medical risk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:52 PM
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That’s not my answer. The answer is she does not have sex. Your entire argument is redundant if you accepted my answer which is exactly why you didn’t and exactly why I didn’t play into your bullshit question. Again if you don’t have sex you don’t have a need for abortion. If you don’t need sex you can stop having it to avoid these issues need for abortion. The argument is not whether or not abortion should be law. It’s that you should be completely fine if it is illegal because you can’t stop h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:19 PM
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I recognize sex as a need so I understand abortion is required for that. The answer is no but that’s totally irrelevant because I recognize sex as a need and can say that. You cannot and you continue to avoid the premise of this discussion because you know you have no ground to stand on. Now how about you stop avoiding the actual topic. We should reasonably expect that woman to give up sex entirely in order to avoid these issues because according to you she doesn’t need it and can go without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:06 PM
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You know you’re beat which is why you’re asking this redundant bullshit. The answer is she does not have sex. The answer is she does not get what she wants. This is not a possible scenario when you don’t have sex. Let’s repeat. If you do not have sex you do not die. Can you comprehend this time or do you need a 5th repeated answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:55 PM
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She does not get to have sex. You prevent it by not having sex. She’s expected to give up sex because it’s not a need. What don’t you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:44 PM
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I already answered that. That women should not have sex if there is a potential medical issue if it is not a need. If she does not have sex she will not die. It’s pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:31 PM
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I already answered that. That women should not have sex if there is a potential medical issue if it is not a need. If she does not have sex she will not die. It’s pretty clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:30 PM
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If you’re worried about the consequences of sex then don’t have sex. It’s not a need according to you so you don’t need it. Abstinence is 100%. Sex is not a need according to you so that woman should be able to go without it and avoid every issue you e mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:18 PM
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I understand sex is a need so I would not say this. You said it is not so if anyone has an issue with abortion being illegal or is afraid they should be able to easily stop having sex if it’s not a need. If sex is not a need married couples should be able to easily go without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:55 PM
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It’s not a need according to you so they should have no issue stopping. It’s easy to stop anything you don’t need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:49 PM
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Looks like that was disability passed down to you. This is hilarious because you attacked me for no reason about parents when you are the one who had a broken household and product of divorce. I’ve embarrassed you intellectually as you had not response and now you’re embarrassed personally which I wasn’t going to do but you had to be put on your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:45 PM
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Product of divorce and a broken household and it’s painfully obvious. I wonder why? You seem to know a lot about being raised by a whore. Much more than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:39 PM
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No you said it’s not a need so you all should easily be able to stop having sex. It doesn’t matter if it’s casual sex or if you’re married. If no one needs it they can all stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:34 PM
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And you would probably know who your father is if your mother had any type of sexual restraint yet here you are miserable bitch on the internet fuming mad because you’ve been beat intellectually and you have no response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:30 PM
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If you don’t have sex you don’t need abortion..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:01 PM
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And those same men who have no idea will be the same ones giving advice about how men need to improve or are lazy while they have no idea their success was largely predetermined.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:57 PM
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You don’t need sex? Ok congrats you’ve just solved the issue of abortion. There is no issue with making it illegal because you and all women can simply stop having sex and this will no longer apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:34 PM
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I will never consider anything where it’s more difficult to date women better. I don’t know why you would want or prefer having more difficulty. In college you have maybe 10-15 hours of class where you aren’t free. In the real world you are busy 40-60+ hours a week. That's unlike college, where you may be surrounded by people but have nothing in common with any that you know. You have everything in common with others in college. These are the same people you go to class with, eat with, in the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:09 PM
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How is starting a social life from scratch without the benefit of proximity or free time easier? In college you can walk down the street and meet a new group of people you’re familiar with out drinking. How are you pulling this off in residential neighborhoods full of families? If a man struggles in the best environment possible how is he going to do better in an ever harder environment? You are more stabilized and even more experienced and understanding. But as time goes on you’re social circle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:08 PM
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College is hands down the greatest environment for dating for men on the planet. Not the greatest point in your life where you’re the most prepared. The greatest environment. Cliques and proximity are a good thing. People know you and what group you’re in which women care about for whatever reason. Once college is over you might be more prepared but it’s useless when you’re now isolated and limited to dating apps and cold approach. No one has endless free time anymore and they start pairing off …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:01 PM
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You never answered the question exactly as I said you didn’t. I didn’t ask you if you said no to a man you could be attracted to. I said do you go on a date with any man who asked you. The answer is no. You still haven’t said the word no to a yes or no question. You have said no to some men while you didn’t say no to others. That is the topic of this post. You haven’t answered why. You pretended like you say yes to everyone and learn who they are afterwards. You don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:46 PM
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Yeah this is all bullshit and you’re avoiding the truth. Have you rejected a man who asked you out before yes or no? We all know the answer is yes. You can’t admit this so discussion goes nowhere. How did you know whether or not to reject him? You weren’t clueless. You clearly used something to make that decision. That is what op is getting at. That is the topic of this post. Not one thing you said stands
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:20 PM
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So the answer is no. In fact a majority of men who ask you out will be rejected. Majority of men will be rejected period by most women. If there was “no reason” not to you would never say no to a man who asks you out. There would be no reason. That’s not the case. With that being said you clearly are able to make decisions on if the man is good enough before any first date. This is the actual value to be known. But I doubt you or anyone else would want to admit this or discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:56 PM
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Are you willing to go on a date with any man who asks you when single?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:21 PM
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