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A flex? It’s pointing out the irony that it happens right in front of you and that you are on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:33 AM
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Because I’m on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:15 AM
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As with every issue that draws mass hypocrisy, let’s pretend these are all different women who are consistently firm in their beliefs and not them being indecisive and flip flopping to whatever side is beneficial at the time to justify why they reject men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:10 AM
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Exactly my first thought as well. Half the time they’re complaining that people pleasing men don’t stand up to them and have no back bone while the other half they’re complaining that men are disagreeable and won’t listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:40 AM
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Because there isn’t an answer to this as I said. That’s why I pointed this out. That is why he did not answer, you cannot answer, and even they cannot answer this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:29 PM
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You said “Has nothing to do with looks”. I was talking about being appealing to women and yes women treat you differently in social situations depending on your attractiveness. I already know how women operate. I was not asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:06 PM
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Bud did you actually just say attracting women has nothing to do with looks? You also don’t just get invited out with women just because you’re there and friendly. They are extremely selective about who they allow out with them. They don’t invite every man in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 06:30 PM
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This post is confusing white knighting with simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:13 PM
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You are the one who said men should know how to sound appealing to women. I said nothing of a cheat code. Everyone knows what type of people they get along with. Knowing this does not translate into attracting them or becoming the type that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:31 PM
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You’re saying these men don’t know how to socialize because women online didn’t teach them. What is a “normal” woman going to teach them? They’re just going to reject them. I still don’t know what they find as an appealing night out. There’s never a straight answer and I cannot read their mind to know everything that needs to be said and done on a night out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 03:23 PM
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Maintenance is not attracting women bud. You made this entire post about men who are alone and state that the dating market is unfair. This has nothing to do with maintenance within a relationship which has nothing to do with attracting women to be in a relationship which your post is actually about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:57 PM
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So these men are not getting relationships yet you’re repeatedly harping about how men already in relationships need to be nice? This has nothing to do with your original post about men attracting women and getting into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:53 PM
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Maintenance is not attracting women bud. You made this entire post about men who are alone and state that the dating market is unfair. This has nothing to do with maintenance within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:50 PM
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We made you feel stupid I know. You and all the other nice guys who think being nice will get you women. You’re a walking meme at this point. They have a whole sub for people like you. You were referring to attracting women as I directly quoted you. Now you’re backtracking to completely flip into “maintenance”. Attracting women is not maintenance. You feel stupid and angry for a reason. You just made a post titled “Nice guys should accept being alone” then in the post talk about how you don’t ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 09:38 PM
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What about this makes them shit exactly? This is often said yet never discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:49 PM
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Because this is all 2005 pick up artist bullshit. Men aren’t “seducing” women. It’s exactly what you said repeated contact and physical attraction. I’ll add in luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:35 PM
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This is coming from the same person whose argument is nice guys should accept being alone. Now telling me how being nice is attracting women. If this was attracting women these men would not be alone or complaining. You do know you should be supporting your argument and not destroying it right? You know you’re wrong when both men and women here are telling you so. They can’t agree on anything but somehow both are against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 07:28 PM
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No. You didn’t. You said “Being nice absolutely plays a role in attracting a woman.” Not “being nice plays a role in maintains a relationship.” Being nice does not attract women. You are arguing against the only realistic part of your post. Even women are telling you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:21 PM
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Being nice is the bare minimum bud. It’s not attracting anyone. Even women are telling you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:01 PM
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You have no response because I’ve broken your logic. You said this is what women want and that it will get you most women. The point is this is not what women want if they reject you despite you having all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:51 PM
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You said this is what women want and that it will get you most women. I clearly pointed out this is not seduction or a skill. Yet you’re commenting about this on a post about seduction and skill is what women want. The point is this is not what women want if they reject you despite you having all of this. Do you not understand what’s being written?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:11 PM
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None of this is seduction. None of this is a skill. None of this prevents rejection. You can do all of this and not attract most women. I’m waiting for you to tell all of us how to seduce women. Since men simply choose not to seduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:29 PM
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The only realistic piece here is that being nice does nothing to attract women. That’s it. Men are not refusing to “seduce”. There is no course to learn how to seduce. Well you can buy the bullshit scam course from the latest red pill podcaster for those who actually believe this is a learnable skill but we’re talking about legitimate learning. Seduction is not something you decide to embrace or change. It’s not a decision or else all guys would choose to seduce any woman they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:08 PM
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No I cannot. If I don’t want to date you I don’t think you’re a catch. Me telling someone they’re a good person does not mean I’d think they’re be good in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:43 PM
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It happens because the man is not physically attractive. You said both physically attractive and a good catch. At minimum you would consider dating him if you truly thought this. If you wouldn’t he’s not a good catch. If he’s not a good catch TO YOU then you do not think he’s a good catch. If I see a 400 pound woman I’m not telling her I think she’s attractive because some other guy out there might think that. That would be stupid for me to say to her and a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:07 PM
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It’s not hard to understand. It’s not true and poorly worded. Once you call someone physically attractive you think they’re physically attractive. That’s it. A good catch for someone else, not me. And this is the lie. YOU don’t think he’s a good catch so there is no reason for you to tell him that. The op is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:41 PM
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You said physically attractive and a good catch. And a good catch. If you aren’t attracted to them they aren’t a good catch. Women can look at a man and say he's physically attractive but not be physically attracted to him? This sentence…… This is a separate issue. If you aren’t physically attracted he’s not physically attractive. You would not call him this in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:21 PM
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If i think someone is a catch and a good relationship partner I’d consider dating them. If I told them I think they’re a catch and I wouldn’t date them I’d be lying. Someone being a good person is not a catch making them dateable. If they don’t match well with you they aren’t a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:14 PM
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This still doesn’t add up. If a guy is physicality attractive and a good catch that means he has both sides. As the op said this would be a lie which we understand is you trying to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:08 PM
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It’s part of the code. Gender war tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:09 PM
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I don’t know what you think “fun” vs. boring is or how it’s defined. If you said awkward that would actually make sense. An average guy who never stuttered, never had silent pauses in conversation, always had consistent eye contact, zero uncomfortable movements, perfect posture, always displayed social status. Then maybe they could reach close to the level of a more attractive guy who failed badly at all of these things. The only thing I’ve ever seen as game is just not being awkward and appeari…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:28 PM
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Bbbut you don’t see men as people. Just feeling generators. I know exactly what chemistry is. An imaginary buzzword you can’t define or measure used as an excuse to reject men you don’t find attractive without appearing superficial. Since attributes don’t matter you can fall in love with a rock because the only requirement is that it makes you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:19 PM
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A person can be ideal but the chemistry is missing. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong or not good enough with them, Just the spark is missing. You cannot negotiate attraction. I’m not crazy about anyone that I don’t think is ideal. If I call them ideal they are a catch. It is objective and based on checkboxes. I can define every piece that makes them a catch. I don’t use “chemistry” or “spark” that can’t even be defined or put to words. If they don’t meet the check boxes they are not a cat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:54 PM
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And what is the “game” they supposedly have? Also if doing decent means getting some obese women that’s not some incredible accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:46 PM
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If they are ideal you have “chemistry”. They are a catch. If they aren’t then they are not a catch. If they are not attractive you don’t have chemistry and they are not a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:43 PM
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If someone is ideal they are a catch. If we go by your definition everyone on the planet is a catch and everyone should be able to get a relationship because there is no such thing as being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:36 PM
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I’m waiting for the blue pill to come help. They told me this doesn’t happen. To just look at Walmart. Why aren’t they helping?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:11 PM
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If someone’s not attractive they aren’t a catch for a relationship and I would not consider them one. I’d be lying at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:10 PM
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People should not be lying to you telling you you’re something that you’re not. That does not help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:06 PM
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They will never admit they make rejections solely on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:00 PM
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But this would involve everyone at the barbecue to tell you how amazing the dish looks and smells but never eating it. At a certain point you realize they’re lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:54 PM
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Wait this isn’t true. Blue pill says guys are rejected for their personality and not looks. This isn’t possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:52 PM
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You said “bullying and manipulation”. Social skills are manipulating others for personal gain and having others do what you want them to while pretending to care about them. Social skills aren’t moral traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 06:04 PM
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Aka “social skills” that women love dearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 05:25 PM
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First it’s better than nothing so what I would not be doing is rubbing it in the faces of others who have nothing telling them how much harder it is for me. If a man were to get a lot of attention from women that would be a net positive over the typical male experience. You now have the potential to find a viable option and you are going to sound spoiled complaining that you get so much attention from women but they’re all unattractive. This is not good it’s just better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 04:27 PM
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When a woman can't get what she want's - it's overinflated ego and she needs to touch grass. When a man? The time is hard, my bro, dating is shit, and so on. Yes. When you can’t get what you want with an abundance of choice available to you that will be called ego. When you don’t have choice that’s hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:04 PM
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You do know when you don’t have an answer and can’t think of a rebuttal saying “I already addressed this” when you haven’t isn’t going to get you out of the argument right? Clearly not because you pull this daily. You said nothing of what actions you think make men an asshole, creepy, or what you think reading a room is. “Just read the room bro”. Just generic shit that no one has disagreed with doing but no explanation of what actual actions that you think men are doing wrong. You know can’t art…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:28 PM
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Not one person here told you to do nothing. We’ve told you that doing everything can still result in failure. Yet you attribute laziness and inaction to men by default so you can justify why they have failed. This isn’t interpretation, it’s a direct quote. when there are plenty of people out there who do put in more effort and learn in order to integrate into society. Putting in more effort than another man does not guarantee you shit. This isn’t a fair game. This isn’t an equal game. This isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:59 PM
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I’ve just broken this down for you. The idea that high effort will be rewarded with success is entirely based on fairness. The idea of what you think is right in having a good personality and treating others kindly will result in success is entirely based on fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:48 PM
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That is exactly what they say. Reality is though, you cannot get angry and blame everyone else when there are plenty of people out there who do put in more effort and learn in order to integrate into society. Putting in effort does not guarantee success. The people who try the hardest may not be the most successful. This is not a game of equality where everyone is rewarded for their effort. It’s ok to struggle and get frustrated. It’s not ok to blame everyone else, while refusing to try. Attribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:41 PM
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This is that just world fallacy from the blue pill. Putting in effort does not guarantee success or attraction. There will be men who put in far less that are accepted far more. Men who are frustrated didn’t just refuse to try. They did and repeatedly failed. That’s why they’re frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:18 PM
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You gave more generic platitudes. They add nothing actionable. You’re applying morality to “social skills” and attraction which is proving you don’t actually know what these are. The best lairs and jackasses are the ones with “social skills”. They use and dispose people for social gain. Being honest and nice are not social skills. They don’t make you attractive. We also have the same person here who thinks men are so stupid because they think looks don’t matter telling us that looks are not a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:31 PM
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This is one of the poorest demonstrations of competence I’ve seen. The plot went right over your head. Do you know what an analogy is? An example to demonstrate how broken the logic is. But you don’t actually have a rebuttal or argument. Just here to bitch and cry about “red pill men” while you can’t formulate an actual response because I’m correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 12:43 AM
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If you want to make the argument that everyone saying they will grab any guy for sex is doing so because they’re unattractive and can’t get any better then so be it because that is possible but I do think they have some type of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:13 PM
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Men that can have casual sex are more desirable. The men that cannot and have to court first are not as desirable as those men who can. Getting a relationship is not always easier than casual sex. An undesirable man won’t start a relationship from casual sex because he can’t get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:10 PM
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There’s no way you could have come to that conclusion by reading these comments. I know exactly what you’re doing and that shit is so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:51 PM
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A man that can get casual sex is more desirable. No shit he can get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:40 PM
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A relationship is far more than just not fucking other people.Women decide who they have sex with so yes if you want sex you will need to court them because most require it. You have 2 scenarios of what men are comparing as sexually desirable. Women saying you need to spend weeks or months planning dates, talk to me daily, prove you can keep me happy, earn my trust and approval, give me exclusivity, dedicate your time and attention to me in a relationship and then if you’ve done all of this succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:35 PM
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No shit that’s not how anyone selects for casual sex are you just now picking up her comment is bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:19 PM
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Because what you said is not true. You don’t simply grab the nearest man willing to have sex with you when you want it because he’s just there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:16 PM
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I just directly quoted his post yes he literally said courting. Read the post.. Women don’t have to court; they are the ones who are courted, so it makes sense that being free of that dynamic is proof you are a desirable, attractive man. For you as a woman yes you aren’t responsible for much because you don’t do the courting. Men are. Men need to initiate and plan a series of dates. Prove that he is safe, valuable, social, and whatever else she wants. He has to show a continued effort to her tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:12 PM
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I know you do. But to pretend that you don’t seek out attractive men for casual sex and instead grab any fat unattractive blob simply because he’s available is obviously not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:05 PM
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Great to know that when you’re standing next to the fat short greasy man who you’ve rejected daily at the grocery store you’re grabbing him to have casual sex with because he’s there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:00 PM
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It’s actually specifically said in the post. finds you attractive and doesn’t ask much from you. You don’t have to put in much effort compared to a relationship; you are free of responsibilities but can still have sex. Women don’t have to court; they are the ones who are courted, so it makes sense that being free of that dynamic is proof you are a desirable, attractive man. I’ve just broken down the difference in effort a man must put in casual sex compared to a relationship… To get casual sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:58 PM
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This isn’t just what this is about. That man in a relationship had to spend weeks to months or years courting her. Spending endless amounts of time, money, planning, and effort all on her in order to win her approval so that she will want to have sex with him. A man who gets casual sex with her did nothing and received the same thing that other man spent months on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:38 PM
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Well today we’ve just learned from these comments that looks do not matter for casual sex. Just stand next to a woman with hormones and she will want to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:20 PM
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So when women have casual sex they simply grab the guy closest to them? There is no evaluation on looks, status, or anything they desire? Just the guy that’s there?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:12 PM
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Sounds obvious right? Not here. These comments are full of women saying they don’t actually desire men they are casual with. They just do it because they want it and he’s there. The men I’ve had casual sex with weren’t desired. They were just available. Dick is abundant and of low value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:09 PM
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These are for attractive men who don’t know what to do with female interest. If you’re romantically struggling with women they aren’t reciprocating interest. You aren’t getting cues. There is nothing to identify. They are reacting negatively to your initiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:39 AM
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I’m not trying to I did. I don’t need to ask anything because I’m not the one who couldn’t interpret it. You are. My problem is not with what they said. I expect it and see it regularly. It’s with you pretending it doesn’t happen when it’s right in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:43 AM
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I already know what they said. I’m pointing out that they do when you’re saying it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:34 AM
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Logically think. Would someone who believes women owe men something ask for proof of what women owe? No. If someone follows up with “what is owed?” that clearly indicates they don’t believe anything is owed to men and they’re challenging the op to change their opinion or fight their stance by listing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:11 AM
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That’s exactly what it says….You need to be able to interpret statements. It’s painfully obvious they said this to imply that they don’t believe women owe men anything and they’re challenging anyone to state otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:57 PM
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There’s one right on this post: INFO: Do women owe men something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:26 PM
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Well yeah the ones here are most definitely majority resentful weirdos to put it very lightly. But I wouldn’t say these issues disappear irl. Like you said women irl don’t even think about this. They don’t think about men’s issues period. So you can come here and be resented or go there and be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:24 PM
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You’re listing every physical type in all ranges. If this is the case you’ve just categorized basically all men as passing your physical standards. I haven’t seen you exclude anyone. This is a roundabout way of saying looks don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:05 PM
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Height, hair, facial hair, skin color, race, body fat percentage, body type, eye color.. none of that is obvious in what you find attractive yet it is never listed but always a prerequisite men must meet for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:07 PM
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I have yet to see anyone other than blue pill men say this. If a man comes to this sub and says he’s rejected because of his physical appearance it’s them and women that will be telling him it’s because of his personality and not his looks. They will tell you about the fat guy or the 5’3 guy they know who has no issue with dating because he’s nice or has a great personality. This is them saying women seek unattractive men. Short and fat is unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:50 PM
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Notice how quickly your example shut her up about hands. She made this post complaining about men thinking women don’t care about physical attractiveness and proceeded to deny women are attracted to every physical attribute you listed. This has got to be a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:35 PM
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If an unattractive man can get the most attractive women because of his personality then looks literally do not matter. He got the woman without it, therefore it was not needed. There is no fair. You are either attractive or unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:18 PM
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You didn’t tell us shit. I directly quoted you word for word. All you did was deny all of the physical features that women are attracted to and now you’re trying to detract from that by adding in rare fetishes. Men understand that women want physically attractive men. That means tall, broad shoulders, lean, muscular, defined jawline. Everything that you’ve just denied women want. Yet you’re complaining about how men are dumb for denying the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:09 PM
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Yes but ironically this is a strictly blue pill talking point about how personality will attract women despite what you look like. Yet they’re the ones who make posts like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:22 PM
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You just made a post complaining about how dumb men are because they supposedly don’t think women care about physical attractiveness and now you’ve just made multiple comments denying that women are attracted to these physical features and genetics as lies or gender dimorphism when someone brings it up. You have denied every point of women being physically attracted to men to the point you’ve said Not every woman cares to have a guy that’s tall with muscles. They don’t have to be tall No. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:14 PM
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No. You don’t. You can survive and live being poor. Now why aren’t you telling them they should learn to be happy without money and it’s fine for them to stay poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:04 PM
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Then you should make the poor learn to be happy without money and tell them to find happiness and satisfaction in other things. No one said they need to stop being poor. Making money the foundation of your happiness is a recipe for disaster. We can defeat all issues with this logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 02:51 PM
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And maybe the rich can teach the poor that they can be happy without money. Will this solve poverty? Or will solve nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:59 PM
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I don’t hide the truth. I speak it. If there was someone I don’t want to date I don’t describe them as defective losers and scroll the internet 10 hours a day to shit on them. You’re also the same person that will be blaming men for rejection because of their personality and not their genetics. When we all know what you truly think is the complete opposite of the blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:54 PM
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That is the whole point. You want willing participants. You want them to be attractive men. No one is going to say they hope less attractive men find them attractive and want a relationship with them. Why would you or anyone logically want attractive men they are interested in dating to decide they’re done with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:36 PM
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No but I’m not the type of scumbag to call them defective losers who won’t be missed. It’s what I’m focusing on because the same scumbags who do this are the same ones that say personality is what matters. I’m upset because I despise people who kick others who are less fortunate for an ego boost. These are who the biggest losers on the planet actually are. And I’m going to remind them every time I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:12 PM
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It’s not about proving that men are opting out. You said if he was never in your dating pool why would you care. This is exactly what the ops point is. If there were men opting out and they were attractive men that you like you would care. You view any men involved in this as undesirable so you don’t. Unattractive men were never in your dating pool. Attractive men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:39 PM
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Nothings been said about what women want aside from virtue signaling what they think makes them look good. You’ve literally just said you want the best genes possible. Theres no coming back from that and you aren’t backtracking now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:35 PM
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A man you find attractive is a viable option. The explanation I gave demonstrates the difference from a straight man considering you but choosing to reject you and a gay man who was never in your pool to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:33 PM
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It’s not. Men deciding to opt out of dating means that they were involved at some point and could become involved again. Being gay was never an active choice they decided to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:11 PM
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It’s absolutely disgusting to write other human beings off as defective, losers, who won’t be missed because of their genetics. But it’s good for men to hear what you actually think. At least you were truthful. What a great comment to prove the pills correct. You’ve just shown that you’re 100% selecting men based on genetics. No personality in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:06 PM
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Saying “I don’t care” to a post saying you would isn’t an agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:54 PM
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Do I really need to explain that women value attractive high status men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:12 PM
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You aren’t. You literally said “I don’t care about that”. The op and I say that you would once attractive men get involved. You’re desperately looking for something to cry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:08 PM
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Your comment is irrelevant to the discussion. The point is that if this happened it would be a negative for you as it would make it more difficult to find an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:04 PM
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There isn’t a discussion about this actually happening. The post is saying that women want men to opt out of dating because they imagine that only the unattractive men are doing so. If attractive men were doing this they would not be supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:00 PM
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And this is why I added that this won’t resonate with women. You’re saying you’re ok with fewer options because you feel that you will always have options regardless. Men do not feel this way because most do not have the same luxury of options that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:55 PM
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This is not about dating a man that doesn’t want to be with you. That wasn’t even mentioned.. Attractive men starting a movement to opt out of dating is not a good thing. It’s not something that you want to happen. You shouldn’t want to be put in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:37 PM
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I’m not telling you what to do you asked why you would care. If attractive men started saying they don’t want anything to do with women that means there are less attractive men for you to date. That means it’s harder for you to find attractive men to date. This would be a negative for you. But again you will not experience the level of scarcity that men will so this isn’t going to resonate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:34 PM
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If attractive men were to opt out of dating that would mean you have less options and a smaller chance of finding a man. This would not be a good thing. The difference is that women have such a wealth of options they don’t care. They can’t imagine struggling to attract men to date. They can always find a partner easily. Men cannot. They have very few options so when things negatively affect their dating pool they actually care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:13 PM
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This is a disgustingly privileged bias. Someone with autism is a defective loser that won’t be missed due to the way they were born? Who says shit like this? You are in no way qualified to call anyone a “loser”. All this means is that you don’t like them which means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:05 PM
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This is where the virtue signaling and lies come in. Unfortunately you won’t forgive any flaws. You will try to find a man who has none. If your ideal man was simply just authentic then no man would struggle in dating. The red pill wouldn’t exist. No man would be rejected for being who they are. That is not reality. There are men, a lot of men, who do not attract women with who they authentically are and never have. They have to change who they are to attract women. If they can’t then they will …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:54 PM
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You’re saying no shit to concepts you completely missed. Don’t ask oblivious questions if you don’t like the answer. You’ve told men what the ideal man is. If they aren’t that authentically then they have no other option than to try to be that. This isn’t men pretending to desire women like you said it is. Men do desire women. The inauthentic man will endlessly have more success than the authentic man because the inauthentic man is closer to what you actually want. You’ve set this standard and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 06:46 PM
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A man is not responsible for a woman’s decision on who she will date and find attractive. A man does not determine or control your decisions. You can’t be authentic when women don’t like who you are. Being authentic IS the turn off. There is nothing red pill about pretending to like you. It’s about being the dominant, masculine, and successful man that causes the women they like to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:24 PM
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This is sad that men have to create a full fake persona just to be accepted by women. Of course they’re frustrated and angry. Anyone would be. What you left out is that when they aren’t putting on the masculine act they go right back to being ignored. Thats the reason they started in the first place. Stuck in a lose lose situation yet still they face the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:33 PM
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You’re literally praising people for not caring about you.. We are at the point that I’m explaining how the person you’re in a relationship with putting you below them is a problem. Dating is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:50 PM
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Clearly. You’re calling the incentive to others to not give a shit and put their needs first over their partners by spouting that anyone who doesn’t is a people pleasing doormat a good thing. You’re saying this isn’t a problem so you should enjoy them not giving a shit about you and being a low priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:22 PM
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That’s incredible if you enjoy anyone you date to care more about what they get and not give a shit about you then want to incentivize this by calling others weak doormats if they don’t. Not great for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 12:31 AM
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I’m replying to the comment taking about putting your partner first. It’s a common theme now to look at men who put women first as doormats and paint them as weak. People are incentivized not to care or pretend not to care about their partner and always put their issues first. That’s a problem. One of many which is why dating is in the extremely poor state it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:33 PM
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I just saw another comment in this sub calling guys a doormat for putting the woman first. Yet there’s totally nothing wrong with dating now according to blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:26 PM
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No, yours don’t. They aren’t special. The same ones repeating how great “average” men are doing will be the same ones who bash men for it being so obvious that women will reject them to date attractive men. You want to act superior now due to race and because you think you aren’t poor as if you can do no wrong in relationships. Yet you’ll be taking about how you were cheated on and treated like shit by your exes as soon as it’s time to be the victim and bash men. You play whatever the side of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:11 PM
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Women aren’t attracted to because you’re “being kind”. This solves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:42 PM
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If someone isn't having success, it's ultimately their fault. This is the common response given to men having a negative experience that I’ve been saying is made. Yet there are people here pretending that it’s not. It’s not being misread. With women it’s because of men. When women can’t find a man on a dating app it’s because men are trash. If men can’t he needs to improve his profile or become healthy enough to connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:56 PM
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There is no reading into people flat out saying it’s their personality’s that’s the problem to men. If people were ok with not putting the blame on men they would accept that women reject them for being short or whatever immutable characteristic they have. But they don’t. The reason is always placed on a changeable characteristic in order to do exactly that. Blame the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:28 PM
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It’s not about what you think is fine. I can guarantee no one facing constant rejection will tell you it’s fine or a good thing. It’s universally seen as a negative experience. You only like it because you are the one doing the rejecting. The topic is whose fault the rejection is. Which always falls to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:20 PM
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It’s not about justifying who is right. It’s about who is at fault and who caused it. Both of these are negative and bad outcomes to whoever receives them. Rejection is a bad thing when it’s happening to you. This is why the rejection happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:10 PM
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A guy saying they’re 5’5 and have ‘no problem’ attracting women. Women saying most men are in relationships and they all somehow know ugly men with gorgeous women. Telling men they are unattractive because they have a shit personality. These all go past advice. There’s always a clear placement of blame on the man as to any failure with women being his responsibility. What you said of being unlucky or that it sucks is the most realistic and true answer but that is just never how it plays out and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:07 PM
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It’s very bad, for the person being rejected. An abuser doesn’t think what they’re doing is a bad thing either since they’re getting what they want out of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:01 PM
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That’s not at all what happens. You’ll see “It’s because of your personality. It’s your approach. It’s your fashion. It’s your hygiene. I know so many short ugly men with gorgeous wives. Normal men have no issues dating. My ex was 4”11 there’s no excuse. Just look at Walmart.” No one is telling men it’s ok and they’re simply unlucky. This sub would be empty if that was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:54 PM
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Where is the argument that rejection is abuse? Can you quote me? I just told you that this entire post is about any negative outcome yet you keep spamming abuse. It’s not just abuse. If any negative outcome is the fault and responsibility of the person who did the action like YOU said it is then men aren’t responsible for being rejected or failing in dating. Men aren’t responsible for being cheated on, manipulated or being divorced because the woman did the action according to you. The problem i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:48 PM
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This is not just abuse. This is not one action that’s done. This is any negative outcome. By your logic all men’s rejections are the woman’s fault because they performed the action in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:31 PM
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Nothing in this post mentions abusers. That is not the only form of a negative dating outcome. Negative dating outcomes are not limited to just women receiving them. The only thing you’ve done here is absolve women of any responsibility in their negative dating outcome that you hand selected. Just like the post says. Men aren’t born with all of the knowledge to attract women. Nor are all of them born with the genetics to attract them either. Yet if they fail or experience negative outcomes it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:22 PM
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Having money does not make women become attracted. Strippers and escorts are not attracted to the men who pay them. They just want the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:58 PM
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This only applies to attractive men who are so awkward that women can’t get past it. It does not make unattractive men become attractive. Most of this would be overlooked anyway for tall attractive men if it’s not that bad. The second issue is that there is no concrete definition for any of this. People cannot define or teach the attractive way of walking, speech style, or how to sit. They just know “it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:54 PM
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They have to be. They must attribute all failures of dating to men’s choices under their control. This allows them to blame men for every rejection and breakup they have. That’s why every response to men’s dating failure is that it’s not because of his looks and is because of his personality. They will frame every situation as one that the man could have gotten the woman if he did ____.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:41 PM
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I hope this was said to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:20 AM
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You can try to find a small group but you’re still going to be severely outnumbered. The problem I’m pointing out is society at large does not agree with you and you will not be able to avoid that many people. Someone who is gay will experience exactly what I was talking about. A constant fight with society to demand your beliefs should be accepted. I would not tell someone who is gay what you told me that people ultimately don’t care and only care about how they treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:27 PM
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I’m trying to keep this simple as clearly critical thinking is new to you. This would require you to have life experience beyond nerds in a discord server 8 hours a day. Men need to be physically attractive and display social status. This will attract women. They don’t have to hide shit. If you actually knew any men considered tall and physically attractive with status you can watch how women flock to them regardless of what views they display. This isn’t causing them to be lonely. If you could …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:05 PM
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No man would want a woman just because she’s a good person and it’s the same for women when it comes to men. of course there has to be enough of a mutual attraction. Then you can also see that the red pill is not why men are lonely as she was saying. The red pill is just the side effect of a larger attraction issue that men increasingly face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:44 AM
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This is what reality is. What’s considered normal in society is getting married and having a relationship. How are you arguing against this? It’s universally known. When you don’t follow these norms people look at you differently as you don’t fit in. Society is nothing but social status games. Most aren’t going to say this outloud. You did not fully read everything because I said I don’t place value on men’s ability to attract women. That doesn’t mean I can’t be aware of how society operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:35 AM
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If you don’t think that people treat you differently based on your relationship status and who your partner is you don’t understand society. You don’t decide how others value you. It’s not your decision. Men respect other men more depending on the women they have. Women value men based on other women wanting him. If you can’t acknowledge social proof there is no discussion to be had. Real life is not a Disney movie where everyone gets the same amount of love and respect because they’re good peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:18 PM
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The red pill is not the reason that men are lonely. It’s not the cause of anything. It’s an ideology that men who are lonely find. When you can’t attract women and you try to research how to do so the red pill is what will be found. They don’t have an answer but they also don’t cause the issue in the first place. They’re found because they’re the only ones who acknowledge men’s issues and claim to have a solution. Attractive men can have the most disgusting red pill views and still attract women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:01 PM
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There is not an answer for this. This is a recipe for disaster. I don’t attribute any value to a man’s relationship status or ability to attract women. Society does whether they say it out loud or not. So now it’s a constant battle of me feeling men are worthy of respect even with no women and fighting society that pushes the complete opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:39 PM
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The problem is there are not plenty of ways. These are rare occurrences if you’re beyond college. If an average man goes to a bar, club, or run club and does not initiate an approach then women will not talk to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:37 PM
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It’s not confusing, it’s not viable. You don’t just lock eyes with women and automatically fall in love. You need to approach them. And telling men to just go outside because someone else will find them and pair them with single women attracted to them is nothing close to what will realistically happen. These are extremely rare circumstances. Not regular occurrences. You will need to approach by starting a conversation if you expect to meet women using this route. They aren’t going to approach y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:38 PM
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This doesn’t make sense. You’re telling men who can’t attract or find women to avoid apps and just go outside to meet women in real life yet you’re not suggesting they approach women. Women aren’t approaching either. This advice is bound for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:33 PM
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Sure, people occasionally do. You talk to someone for 10 minutes and never see them again. Who is this helping?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:30 PM
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What makes you think single women at a bar looking to date aren’t outnumbered by the number of single men there? Cold approach is also exceptionally hard and success is low. You’re trading one low success method for another. There’s no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:26 PM
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They want to sound cool or brave. Have no opportunity through apps or friends so there is no other option. The fantasy that women will swoon over your personality because you’ve talked to her in person. Believing this idea that you’re the hero who was the only guy that dared to be brave enough to approach thinking she’ll be impressed by that while you were the 5th guy that night. Guys who don’t realize women don’t want to be approached by 99% of male strangers they don’t know. Men who still thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:24 PM
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If a man is trying to change how he acts in order to attract women it’s be because what he does and says naturally is not attracting women. They’ve already gone through the period of saying whatever they want and saw no results. You and the op are telling men to continue doing what has failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:45 PM
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It’s just virtue signaling at this point. Women choose attractive men with status. There is no reason to pretend it’s impossible for women to think they can do better in terms of height, looks, money, status, and it’s only about the way men treat them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 04:34 AM
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When you talk to women and especially enter a relationship with them they tell you about all of the guys that approach them, hit on them, dm them. This is not what I think you will actually see this. You’ve just done the same. You went from you don’t date men because they don’t make a move to “handsome men approach me but I reject them because they had bad intentions.” You do get approached and reject men. Now you’re virtual signaling about how it’s not possible for women to reject men based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:55 AM
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Let’s be clear. I established that looks are important. You said it’s not about looks. What I’m talking about is the only important piece. It's not about looks, status and money. And more about treatment in terms of doing better. You could find someone who likes the same things you like. You could find someone who is affectionate. You aren’t looking to find someone who likes the same things as you. You aren’t looking to find someone who’s affectionate. You are looking to find someone who’s attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:59 PM
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Women don’t simply date men because they approached. If your standards are that low that you date any man who approaches you then you are nowhere near the baseline. The most successful men in dating are the most physically attractive and high status. This has nothing to do with what women’s preference I think is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:52 PM
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No one has told you to wait for women to approach and initiate. When you ask them out they will answer based on your attractiveness. Women aren’t going to melt because you were one of the 10 guys who approached them this week. The answer is not simply just make a move and they’ll be attracted. If women said yes to every guy I’d have plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:45 PM
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Then I should be quoting anyone saying “it’s not about looks” when it is. Assertive and polarizing are just buzzwords attributed to men who are physically attractive due to the halo effect. They mean nothing if they aren’t accompanied by looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:12 PM
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You’re not dating any man simply because he made a move. You’ve rejected men before. You’re dating the men who are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:09 PM
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So telling them they can do better will not in any way be interpreted by them as being advised to break up? If you felt someone can make their own decisions you wouldn’t be telling them they can do better in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:37 PM
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It’s common sense that dating is about looks but you just said it’s not about looks? I’m not the one who said it wasn’t. It’s not just about treatment. Looks, money, and status are all under consideration when women want to do better. More than treatment. If a women receives interest from taller, better looking, more successful men and sees her peers getting the same she will start to feel she can do better in all of these areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:24 PM
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You telling them they can do better means they should leave. If you are telling them they can do better you are advising they shouldn’t be together. The question isn’t framed. It’s true. You judge partners more harshly than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:03 PM
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You said It's not about looks, status and money. And more about treatment in terms of doing better. More importantly It's not about looks, Now you’re saying You SHOULD date and romance someone you are ATTRACTED to. These are two contradicting statements. So yes it is about looks and you’ve just admitted so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:55 PM
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This is proving the ops point. The fact that you’re in other women’s business to the point you’re telling them they can do better is demonstrating how women judge their partners and friends more harshly than men do. Exactly as the op said. Men telling other men what to do with their relationships is rare and if they do it’s probably not going to be telling them to break up. It’s going to be advice on how to keep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:23 PM
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It is about looks, status, and money. If it weren’t you would be dating all of your male friends who are nice, treat you well, and like the same things you do. There would never be a case of a rejected male friend who you think is a great guy that you wouldn’t date if it wasn’t about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:17 PM
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You can’t just back out because I’ve dismantled your argument. Actually you did by admitting men have more reasonable standards. Let’s use direct quotes that you said so there is no more backing out. The first is deciding what counts as a "reasonable" standard. You’ve already admitted men’s standards are more easily obtainable so they are clearly more reasonable which is why men say this. And then turn around and look at how women's standards get treated. They get treated as unreasonable because…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:47 PM
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It’s exactly what your post is about. You don’t understand that men do everything you’ve outlined because of this. Men tell you that their standards are reasonable because they are more easily met than yours. This is why men criticize women’s standard as your post is exactly about. If a women sets a standard of a 6’2 man that’s not my fault. It’s hers. Theres nothing I can do about that. If a man sets a standard of not being fat or promiscuous that’s your fault. You had complete control over tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:35 PM
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And? You’ve just destroyed your post by doing so. If you admit that women’s standards are difficult to reach while men’s aren’t then you understand why men feel their standards are more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:16 PM
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This. Reddit pretends that if you know women they will then automatically introduce you to all these single women wanting to date you. Not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:08 PM
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It’s not the man’s fault either. The point he made is it’s very easy for you to meet men’s general standards. It’s very difficult for men to meet women’s general standards. Yet I promise you will never admit that you have it easier. Men talk about women’s standards this way because men’s standards can realistically be met by most women if they tried while women’s standards cannot be easily met by most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:58 PM
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You now have an entire culture dedicated to looks maxing now of men trying to be as physically attractive as they possibly can. Before that you had pickup artists. Men will dedicate their lives to attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:55 PM
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They are ugly so they have to pay. He’s considered physically attractive. You don’t need to pay women to be attracted to tall men with money and status….
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:51 PM
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At this point we’ve now gone beyond effort. If effort brought women I’d have plenty. That’s the only point I’m making. Some men don’t really need this level of effort. They just do these things naturally. The very little feedback I’ve gotten I’ve done. Majority of feedback I’ve gotten is positive saying I’d make a great partner which is no help and probably empty platitudes. There isn’t much feedback to give because I’ve maxed out everything I can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:47 AM
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I don’t need to be told to go to the gym. These guys can’t outfit or out run me and neither can the people who say this. I don’t need to be told about hygiene or clothes. I’ve spent more money and time on both than these people have. I can call these men low effort because I know for a fact they aren’t even close to me and can’t compare. I can promise you I’ve invested more unable you could think of. My life revolves around productivity and getting better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:25 AM
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Yes. Pointing out that women don’t have to do these things doesn’t mean that men refuse to. They’re calling out the imbalance which is true. When you’ve put in the effort and see women continue to pick others who didn’t you’ll quickly realize it never mattered at all. I’ll tell you the exact same thing they do about dating apps. I’ve done both. Approaching 20 women at a club makes no difference. Both options suck and have a very low rate of success and I’d probably stand a better chance on apps.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 08:45 PM
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The problem is most men are or were in scenario 1 yet you have people like the op and most blue pill treating them like scenario 2. Either they tried and got nowhere or are doing it and getting nowhere. If you speak on how your efforts never paid off it’s “whining” and you’re told you need to put in effort by some dickhead who hasn’t put in half of what you do. The amount of effort isn’t the issue yet the blame will always be put there to justify rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:33 PM
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You want to be different so badly but you aren’t. Having power because you were born a female does not make you a leader. They actively use that power to find men who will lead and direct them. This isn’t about me it’s about women in general. They want and are attracted to leaders which is backed by studies which shouldn’t be necessary since this is common sense. Approaching a woman and planning a date is not weak. It’s a requirement of you want to attract them. You’re crying about data when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:41 AM
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If there is a legitimate social skill expert for men to attract women I have never seen it. When you look you’re nearly always going to end up at some podcaster selling a course. If you’re aware of this and it’s not for teaching basics to those with disabilities I’ve never seen it. But really what I want is those complaining about men’s social skills to define exactly what is missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:35 PM
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This is a classic result of your inflated ego and worth due the current dating market. Sadly proving the red pill right again. This isn’t a conflict genius, it’s the dating process. You aren’t a leader in dating, you all choose not to be. Women hold the power in the dating market and choose men who lead them. If you actually speak to women or even look at what they want you’d see the constant repeated requests for a “man who can lead” a “man who can plan a date”. The fact that you are even debat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:16 PM
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Im sure you did that’s great. You’ve just said you do these 4 nights a week and go out with friends 3 times a week on top of that. The average man is not going out 5-7 times a week. The most extroverted who are constantly talking are. The average man has about 4 hours a night plus weekends and values his alone time. He’s not going out damn near every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:04 PM
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Confidence, charisma, personality, these people who bring this up can’t even explain or define what these are. They “just know”. If someone wants to come here demanding men to be taught social skills they should be able to define exactly what these men are missing down to the smallest detail. Anyone claiming to teach social skills is focused on the most basic training and is for those who have some type of disability. They aren’t coaching men to be more attractive to women. They’re teaching the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:58 PM
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That’s great you have all the free time in the world but this is supposedly what you, a woman does. Not what the average man does. The average man is not doing all of this shit and probably doesn’t have time to go out 4 nights a week. Great for college students with little responsibilities though. The average man will face a shit ton of rejections no matter how social he is so yes he will struggle to date and find a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:24 PM
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Right let’s make a scientific study on dating app prompts because people don’t have enough common sense to actually read the profiles. Let’s get some scientific studies to prove the sky is blue also. It’s not just dating apps that’s one example. Women constantly say this. You’re sheltered if you’ve never heard this. Initiating is leading. Approaching is leading. Planning a date is leading. Picking a location is leading. Your mental gymnastics don’t change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:57 PM
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The argument isn’t “I’m happier without my ex”. It’s “I’m happier being single period without men.” This very thread is a prime example. You people are delusional. I swear. I love being single. I would not ever in life live with a man again. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:10 PM
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And you were saying it’s one of those little things. We know exactly what you meant. You gain nothing by cowardly trying to back out of what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:08 PM
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Exactly. This is why op is correct. These women aren’t happy. They’re actually bitter and hateful. They are screaming how happy they are to prove a point and push back against narratives they don’t like. Not because they are actually happy. Society is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:54 PM
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Stock markets do not simply go up every day. That’s not what the market ever was. They crash and have recovered from each crash. This is the typical blue pill feminist narrative. Blaming stock market crashes on men yet ignoring the recoveries. Ignoring you would have no stock market without men. Complaining about how bad the world is and blaming it on me. while ignoring all of the advancements we’ve made because of men. This also ignores how you would not have done any better. Anyone can sit on …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:40 PM
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The insult was clear as day. You didn’t pick up on it and it flew over your head. The periods should have been a clear context clue. But reading comprehension right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:31 PM
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Unfortunately they do. If you are a man and don’t lead by approaching, initiating, planning the date, picking the location, you won’t attract women. It’s one of the most common dating app prompts for women to say they want a man who can lead. This is what they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:27 PM
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We need to teach social skills yet we can’t even define what they are. People can’t explain it because they “just know”. Women want men who lead. They’ve said it countless times. That’s what they’re attracted to. That’s what men must answer to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 03:23 PM
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Women see shy = bad. That’s why they’re repulsed by it and don’t want to date these men or want anything to do with them. That’s why what they call a good personality is actually an extroverted personality and has nothing to do with being a good person. Same thing with awkward. These are what women view as the most negative qualities. Not moral beliefs. It actually ended up being a great addition to this post. It proves that women don’t care about dating good men. They want traits that have noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:26 PM
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You do as a group. There is a large number of women who men deem attractive enough to date and a small number of women they wouldn’t. A large number of those so-called “ugly” women could loose weight to become attractive. There is a large number of men who women consider unattractive and a small number of men who are. Women are more picky. There are much more men who don’t get attention from the opposite sex than there are women. A 5/10 male will have a much harder time finding a date than a 5/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:27 PM
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They will become angry when you tell them this is happening because of their shit personality and not their looks. As you just did. That’s a male problem. Women aren’t told that and denied this is happening. The men who didn’t see it coming believed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:18 PM
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And this is why this problem exists. You will do anything to avoid acknowledging that you have a huge advantage and far easier time dating compared to men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:58 PM
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And this is exactly why men will oppose what you’re saying. It “confuses you” when inconveniences in your life can be attributed to your looks yet when it comes to men they can’t. It “confuses you” that you can’t talk shit about other people calling them an asshole and poorly trying to ragebait them about being “hurt” because they’ve explained reality to you. Yes I have the power not to put up with disrespect and call out the hypocrisy of what’s going on. If you accept people disrespecting you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:53 PM
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And you’ve done exactly what I’ve just said. I didn’t ask you for anything. I don’t need other people to tell me to improve. I’ve already put in more effort than they have without anyone telling me. I said if men told you this. Not women. And saying “oh he’s nice to me” is not anything like attributing the outcome of the situation to your moral failings and being a shit person when you had no control over the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:36 PM
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Because when this happens the response is not empathy or understanding. There is no acknowledgment men having a more difficult time in dating. Its met with an immediate assumption of the man being flawed morally. Of him doing wrong. That all of this is in his control. If men told you that you don’t get help at the store because you have a shit personality and looks don’t matter like you think they do then you would have an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:56 PM
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Because it doesn’t actually fix anything. There are important topics on female nature discussed but most men would have eventually learned elsewhere through experience. It’s for men who already have all of the tools necessary to succeed with women but somehow never did simple things like workout or approach women. That’s very few men. Men will be bitter when they learn the reality of nature and realize they can’t do anything about it. When you’ve done everything you’ve can to succeed and people …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:47 PM
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That’s why I said if you can. Then also said you need to find out if you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 06:07 PM
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That’s why I just said if you can. if you can If that’s what you have to do to get a relationship you do it. Not everyone lives with dating on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:41 PM
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Probably not but it can get you more attention than you would have gotten otherwise. It’s a lose lose situation but that’s why I said if you can do it you’ll choose that route because you get a relationship out of it which will outweigh the negatives but you need to find out if you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:04 PM
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This justification is not being rejected and ghosted. Women aren’t the ones ghosted after one wrong move. They are the ones doing the rejecting. They do the selecting and have multiple men being considered. They do not have to jester unless they’re competing for a top % man who also has several options. Men come to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:51 PM
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When you’re one of 5 guys competing for a spot and one of them is doing backflips while you aren’t you just lost. When every situation becomes this you better start flipping or you’re going to keep loosing. There is no difference when every situation is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:55 AM
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No I don’t think you do because women initiate the break ups and divorces. Men do the approaching, the impressing, the initiation, and the women do the rejecting. Women have the large amount of options that allow them to treat men as disposable. This is nothing like what men experience unless you are dating the top men who also have several options and can afford to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:49 AM
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In the early stages of dating you have to impress as a man. And yes it’s exactly that, one slip up is the end of things and you’re ghosted. I’ve seen it far too often. When every date and interaction is like this it will become how you live. It’s a competition as there are 3+ other guys you’re in the mix with. This isn’t having a partner that you’re comfortable enough with to maybe relax and enjoy your time. If you’re actually in a relationship then hating dates is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:12 AM
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Yes some people never need to jump through hoops and date effortlessly which comes naturally. If you aren’t one of those people life is completely different and those on the other side are never going to understand you. They’re wasting time searching online because they know no where else to search
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:04 AM
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Then what is your issue with men here? They surely don’t think it should be like this either. They feel like jesters for a reason and it’s because that expectation is placed on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:12 PM
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It’s not that simple. You can’t just choose to not do it and live a touch deprived life full of isolation. It’s not a choice. If women demand that you be a source of entertainment then men must answer. It’s going to suck but if you can do that you’re going to choose it over complete deprivation of touch and romantic intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:08 PM
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Sweetheart. This doesn’t dispute anything I’ve just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 07:17 PM
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If they are truly concerned about safety then this is what they’d be looking for signs of but it’s be tall, attractive, and display social status. Being safe is not required to attract women. I’m not claiming what should be but I’ve seen little indication that they value this when selecting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:46 PM
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Yet you’ve just said they aren’t dating any men which is the complete opposite of what you’re saying now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:37 PM
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Yet if I say this I’m told everyone is in relationships. Apparently if you check Walmart this will somehow be disproven according to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:22 PM
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I don’t ascribe to red pill. I ascribe to what I’ve learned and experienced through reality. It’s clear they have experienced the same. It’s because these experiences are common. You have zero authority to judge what a good person someone is because they’ve watched the most aggressive men be the most successful with women their entire life. It’s just another classic case of women don’t want to date you = bad. If danger was the top concern in dating then women would prioritize dating safe peacefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:19 PM
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You’re not even close. I emulate no one. I am who I want to be. The most aggressive men are always the most successful with women. I’ve watched it play out every single time. I have no desire to be aggressive 24/7 like they are which is a detriment to my success in dating. Those guys are mostly annoying dickheads that I want nothing to do with but I recognize thier success. You must be aggressive in order to be dominant. You cannot be passive quiet or shy and be dominant. No one is gong to liste…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:56 PM
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This is supposed to be in relation to dating. This is not a problem in dating because these same men are still getting relationships and receiving attraction from women. Women still reward them. If it was a problem then these would be the men struggling to find dates and not the peaceful non violent ones. The only problem is women reward men with this behavior and don’t prioritize safety as it does not spark attraction like looks and status do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:07 PM
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The same ones who can’t tell that they are dating abusers because they were tricked by them being nice at first?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 PM
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And? Women are more likely to date dominant, aggressive, tall, attractive, “charismatic” men. They don’t select men based on safety. They actually punish safe men for this casting them as boring because they want adventurous men with risky behavior since these men are exciting. Safe docile men are not in favor with women whatsoever. If you actually choose based on safety as a top priority this would be relevant. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:56 PM
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Obviously men filter by looks. What they don’t do is lie to women telling them they’d be attracted to them if they had a great personality instead. Women have the most interest, the most options, the most demand in dating. Most men do not. That is leverage and power. Life is not an even playing field. Yes attraction is fixed and purely genetic. Personality is only used to reject among men who have passed the genetic bar of attraction. Men do not control your decision of who you reject. How tf do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:04 PM
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Women have complete power and control over the dating market. They determine who lives happily ever after and who goes home alone. Them reconsidering what they find attractive isn’t possible. What now is that you actually tell the truth in that men are filtered out by looks before any of these long term intangible traits are known. Men do not suddenly get up and decide they’re now going to be attractive to women because they’re responsible. Effort does not equal attraction. Men do not have a sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:28 PM
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And this is exactly why this post was made. Men are filtered out because of looks far before they can display any of these characteristics. Once a women deems you unattractive you aren’t going to change the results. You’re unwilling to admit the role of looks being the deciding factor and you’ve made it obvious your intent is to keep the blame on men by flat out stating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:55 PM
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This post is more about being honest and not kinder. If a man is romantically lonely women will blame it on his controllable factors like “personality” as if he can change everything necessary to start attracting women. The answer is never that it’s his looks holding him back and there is little he can do to change women’s mind on him. If women acknowledged that being attractive is the determining factor in dating then they acknowledge they are the ones deciding the outcome and cannot shift blam…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:12 PM
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There are people literally asking for a source for this information on this post. Even if you tell them they’re unaware.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:34 PM
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Damn this is so sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:43 PM
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The current state of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:06 PM
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Being a part of the problem of the current state of dating and not shifting the issue to blame 100% of it on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:44 PM
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If you look at the average woman’s dating app you’ll also see an endless line of respectful men who are not making lewd or derogatory comments with 15% body fat being rejected or completely ignored. You’re in a sea of men just like you said. They can ignore the good men for the better and ignore the better for the best. That’s the difference. They did not have a sea of men to choose from in 1960. It does not matter that you added a ton of 28% body fat men to the pool when you’ve also added a han…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:02 PM
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Women will never give direct or unflattering communication. They’d be proving the red pill correct about their nature. Their answer will always be to virtue signal to prop up the women are perfect image. Most direct communication involves men being told they’ll never have a chance with her no matter what they do. Of course men are going to be upset if women actually told them they don’t find them attractive because of their height or appearance. That direct communication is going to reveal that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:56 PM
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It’s honestly pathetic that you have such a you can’t pick up the simplest discussion. Me describing the reality of what men face is not pathetic. What pathetic is that I need to explain such basic shit to people like you that have no idea what’s happening. Do I need to teach you how to wash your hands next? Clearly we’re talking about women when dating is the topic that should be fucking obvious. That’s not obsessed. Choosing to be a monkey is totally irrelevant. The point is it’s 100% valid to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:16 PM
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It’s not even being a doormat it’s letting women have their way. If you don’t she’s probably leaving. That’s great that you stood up to her but now you’re alone and you have nothing. The point is the outcome is not that women crying for another chance with you as the op says. The outcome is her leaving and you being alone because you didn’t give her her way. Idk who this “you” is but women are in complete control of the dating market and they are responsible for determining what what they want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:33 PM
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The most logical explanation. Women aren’t crying and begging for another chance when an average guy she’s casually dating kicks her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:47 AM
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I haven’t seen this help at all. The highly repeated concept of “backbone” doesn’t really get you anywhere unless she’s so loyal she’ll let you which is a level of loyalty that most men don’t get. I’ve told women no plenty of times. And it always is followed by a shitstorm of complaining, arguments, and attitude. Nothing positive came from it. Arguing on a regular basis is not a win. If I kick a woman out she leaves and does not talk to me again. If I don’t do what is asked of me in an early tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:45 PM
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It’s reality. I can’t change this. I have no control over this. It says nothing about me. Multiple people have told you that bars and clubs are filled with men swarming women just like dating apps. When it comes to actual effort and drive you’ll never beat me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:27 PM
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They have no idea. “All of my male friends have no issues dating”. That’s all they know. Either they pay so little attention they don’t realize and assume all single men are doing so by choice or these men are invisible to them or they think dating is the same for men as it is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:56 AM
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It feels nearly impossible to get a 1 on 1 interaction without interruption. At a bar women are very rarely alone and always in a group an engaged in conversation. It’s the same at parties. If you catch her for the split second of the night she’s free you might get 5 minutes. Also majority of women out now go out with their partner. It’s extremely difficult to find single women now and when you do it feels like it’s still 80% guys because you’re fighting with the crowd of other single guys who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:17 AM
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I understand sex is a need so I would not say this. You said it is not so if anyone has an issue with abortion being illegal or is afraid they should be able to easily stop having sex if it’s not a need. If sex is not a need married couples should be able to easily go without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:55 PM
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It’s not a need according to you so they should have no issue stopping. It’s easy to stop anything you don’t need.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:49 PM
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Product of divorce and a broken household and it’s painfully obvious. I wonder why? You seem to know a lot about being raised by a whore. Much more than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:39 PM
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No you said it’s not a need so you all should easily be able to stop having sex. It doesn’t matter if it’s casual sex or if you’re married. If no one needs it they can all stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:34 PM
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And you would probably know who your father is if your mother had any type of sexual restraint yet here you are miserable bitch on the internet fuming mad because you’ve been beat intellectually and you have no response.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:30 PM
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If you don’t have sex you don’t need abortion..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 08:01 PM
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And those same men who have no idea will be the same ones giving advice about how men need to improve or are lazy while they have no idea their success was largely predetermined.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:57 PM
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You don’t need sex? Ok congrats you’ve just solved the issue of abortion. There is no issue with making it illegal because you and all women can simply stop having sex and this will no longer apply to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:34 PM
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How is starting a social life from scratch without the benefit of proximity or free time easier? In college you can walk down the street and meet a new group of people you’re familiar with out drinking. How are you pulling this off in residential neighborhoods full of families? If a man struggles in the best environment possible how is he going to do better in an ever harder environment? You are more stabilized and even more experienced and understanding. But as time goes on you’re social circle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 09:08 PM
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College is hands down the greatest environment for dating for men on the planet. Not the greatest point in your life where you’re the most prepared. The greatest environment. Cliques and proximity are a good thing. People know you and what group you’re in which women care about for whatever reason. Once college is over you might be more prepared but it’s useless when you’re now isolated and limited to dating apps and cold approach. No one has endless free time anymore and they start pairing off …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:01 PM
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You never answered the question exactly as I said you didn’t. I didn’t ask you if you said no to a man you could be attracted to. I said do you go on a date with any man who asked you. The answer is no. You still haven’t said the word no to a yes or no question. You have said no to some men while you didn’t say no to others. That is the topic of this post. You haven’t answered why. You pretended like you say yes to everyone and learn who they are afterwards. You don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:46 PM
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Yeah this is all bullshit and you’re avoiding the truth. Have you rejected a man who asked you out before yes or no? We all know the answer is yes. You can’t admit this so discussion goes nowhere. How did you know whether or not to reject him? You weren’t clueless. You clearly used something to make that decision. That is what op is getting at. That is the topic of this post. Not one thing you said stands
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:20 PM
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So the answer is no. In fact a majority of men who ask you out will be rejected. Majority of men will be rejected period by most women. If there was “no reason” not to you would never say no to a man who asks you out. There would be no reason. That’s not the case. With that being said you clearly are able to make decisions on if the man is good enough before any first date. This is the actual value to be known. But I doubt you or anyone else would want to admit this or discuss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:56 PM
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Are you willing to go on a date with any man who asks you when single?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:21 PM
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