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In that same study men rated women much more fairly to the point that it followed a bell curve. Go ahead and explain away that one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:50 PM
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But women only find 20% of men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:46 PM
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When did I ever say that the computer was my girlfriend? Go ahead and point that one out to me. Why do so many people lack basic critical thinking and logic skills? It's nauseating to deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:31 PM
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Uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:12 PM
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63% of young men 18-29 are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:44 PM
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You don't have to be rich to be Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:42 PM
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And women choose to have all the fun in the world with Chad before they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:41 PM
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It makes perfect sense when you take it as what it is. It's a dating app. You remove the human part of dating and swipe on people based on a few pictures. You arent attracted to people you swipe, you just think they are good looking enough People reject people on dating apps they wouldve talked to in a natural context, because that just is part of it. And this is ignoring the fact that dating apps have like 4 men for each woman using them. That's nice and all except women in the past also reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:39 PM
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That would be nice in a world where we didn't online date and women hated men that cold approached them. But we don't live in that world. In our world, the only way to have any rapport with women is to be a successful top percentage male.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:36 PM
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I mean you literally just said so yourself. "being on her level is not sufficient." Okay so who is it that you think women are seeking? Cause it damn sure ain't men below her level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:31 PM
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The study is about OKcupid ratings. It doesnt relate to anything here. ??? So a study about dating doesn't relate to anything about dating? Is that what we are trying to argue now? Go ahead and try to make it make sense. Loneliness isnt about dating. 10% of US adults doesnt have a single friend. That is what the loneliness epidemic is about. 2/3 of men 18-29 are single and it's getting worse. You are simply wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:29 PM
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Okay that's cute. That has nothing to do with my point that women only seek Chad. I'm not even sure why you bothered responding
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:27 PM
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Women aren't more likely to message anyone first lol. That's why Bumble failed. At best they responded to the army of guys who had already messaged them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:27 PM
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Except it was on a verified study and is consistently cited here. Also the stats with the loneliness epidemic match up precisely with this. Like what are you talking about. The only one spouting bs here is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:25 PM
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Women eventually settle. Also this is skewed towards the older generations. With the younger generation the loneliness epidemic is getting worse and female standards are getting more inflated and ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:23 PM
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Yes and women only find 20% of men attractive. In other words it doesn't matter how much a guy tries he's basically screwed if he's not apart of that desired 20% (aka Chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:22 PM
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You'd have to have next to no empathy not to see it. Not exactly uncommon but still
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:13 PM
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No they'll just use AI sex bots lol. It's already starting to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:11 PM
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Except average women reject guys too. That 3 doesn't want some fat sweaty guy on her level hitting on her, she wants Chad too. Attractive people are... attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:10 PM
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I don't think women are salty about it so I won't comment on that aspect. But I do think women should mind their own business and let men be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:01 PM
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If you don't care then stop commenting on it. For someone who doesn't care you sure are giving this a lot of your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:46 PM
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?????? Make it impossible to approach women and then laugh at men when they go to the next best alternatively. How demonizing and shallow can you get. Fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:44 PM
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What's interesting about this question though is that I'd answer tree in the case of a woman, but not in the case of a man. The men will understand. The woman will gaslight you and pass judgements making you feel even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:21 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:54 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:35 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:29 AM
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Unless you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 05:04 AM
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It's very hard not to notice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:52 AM
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Yup that's how it always happens. They'll begin gaslighting you on it too. "Duh, of course women only want Chad. I mean what are you stupid?" When just a little while ago they were going on about how it's all about personality and only an incel would ever mention Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:42 PM
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Why would the men end up in poverty when he worked and the stay at home mom didn't? Where is the logic in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:49 PM
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If more men work than women and women make less than men of course women are going to end up with less money than women after divorce. It's common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 09:59 PM
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Well duh the man actually worked
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:44 PM
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Who ever said I was a socialist? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:59 PM
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I'm sorry I didn't realize the only two ways of organizing the world was capitalism and communism lol. This is what is referred to by brainwashing. You literally only see a binary
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:49 PM
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This is honestly sad. Then again, your name says everything one needs to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 07:29 PM
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And is society always correct in the values that it tries to force on the genders? I'm pretty sure my great great grandparents didn't have the expectation placed upon them to treat their dates to fancy dinners and luxury vacations. And in an age where women make their own money, why are they still expecting men to provide for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:17 AM
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Okay. Now answer the actual question that was posed. Who said that my role was to be a provider for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:12 AM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:07 AM
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And do you think humans are capable of creating synthetic genes? Do you think humans can do it better than nature does?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:06 AM
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Who said that my role was to be a provider for you? Why don't you provide for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:27 PM
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It would be more interesting to discuss “sprinkle sprinkle” nonsense as another way capitalism brainwashes population though. Gold digging and sprinkle stuff both can be tied to overconsumption of goods people don’t really need. We can throw into the same pile girl math, “I’m just a girl” etc. It’s just capitalism and the idea that you can be happy only if you buy this 100500th useless crap that just took resources from the Earth and you’ll throw away in a month. Discard people and worship stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:14 PM
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I'm saying this from the start. If you have to approach women, it's OVER. Women aren't fucking insentient and if they actually like you they approach. women will pursue the man they want and if story. Too far. While it is true more attractive men will have women much more likely to make the first move or at the very least dropping heavy hints, it isn't true that simply because a girl likes you means she will get up and ask you out. They can either be shy or their brains have been poisoned by a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:42 PM
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I think woman should be more proactive. Theres more than enough proof of this in the lesbian communities. Y'all need to stop sitting on your hands so much acting like distressed damsels. It's honestly ick worthy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:27 PM
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Right which is exactly what you said. Women needing to be provided for with Gucci handbags and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:01 AM
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Yes, you mean maybe not for 99.99% of humanity. Things did change as technology progressed - you're correct. This is also living breathing proof that women are by and large extremely hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:49 AM
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You mean like food and shelter lol? Most women throughout history were not materialistic. That is a very modern predisposition, and what men sought to "provide" were not expensive handbags and luxury trips.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:47 AM
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It's not entitlement. It's a custom that has formed over hundreds of years. It's a custom that has formed over one hundred years* People weren't buying Gucci bags and taking vacation trips to the Bahamas in the 1800s. This is all a new capitalist phenomenon and it's no surprised that you'll find women who act like this most in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:18 AM
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Except music has been around since before humans were even thought of. The technological industrial revolution was centuries before the dot.com era, of course society was messed up before we got the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 09:10 PM
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Technology is what ultimately killed him. It is our new God. The same technology that gave rise to social media and online dating which has now inflated females standards to high heavens
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:05 PM
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Lol. For the record, this is exactly what OP is talking about about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 07:44 AM
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Yes, and society is no different. Your going to have to jump through a lot of hoops to say that the default programming given to the masses in society is the unfiltered truth. There is a reason that wisdom is a rare quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:52 AM
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And the default programming of society is automatically the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:18 AM
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Less of an incentive sure. But I'm telling you personally that I'd still do it. If I want something then I'm going to go out and try and find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:02 PM
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If the woman in question was attractive enough? Absolutely yes, without a doubt. I'd encourage women to go after the men they want more. Women should be making the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 06:34 PM
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I mean you keep choosing the Chad with unlimited options, what did you expect? Just sounds to me like the natural consequences of your poor decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:40 PM
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Nope not necessarily. The numbers don't add up to make the point you're trying to make. Go ahead and math it out yourself If anything it shows women are terrible because they consistently keep picking these "terrible partners." Clearly it says something about their own character and poor taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:33 PM
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Of course men have no sympathy for women who are a bit older and still single. They almost certainly have had their fair chance at a relationship and rejected them all. Unless they are extremely ugly like in a way where it's a genetic condition, they likely had multiple chances of being in a relationship. No, no one is going to have sympathy for you when you're the privileged sex handed everything in the dating world and still manage to fuck it up and fail. Do better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:23 PM
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Sounds like that's what women want. After all they are choosing macho men dominant guys. Terrible ability to choose partners if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:11 PM
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I don't owe you anything for a date. Pay me for the date
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:52 AM
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A man's arch nemesis. Mogged by a bear
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:21 AM
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Okay so if you're doing it for yourself why the hell should I pay for it? There is zero logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:18 AM
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The average young liberal woman suffers from androphobia because she's been conditioned to fear men. So much so that she'd actually be around a wild beast killing bear than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:13 AM
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Are the relationships had in the west not transaction lol? Because color me shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:02 AM
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They could have been lol which is the entire point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:41 PM
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You just gave one. For one who is the biological mother, a single mom who has been artificially inseminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:39 PM
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Yes adopting a kid is one way. Not the only way, but it is one way. And even one example disproving the point makes it not true by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:35 PM
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You cannot imagine someone who's a single mom who didn't have sex? Nothing springs to mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:21 PM
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By definition single mothers had sex, or “couldn’t figure out birth control”. This isn't necessarily true. It's not true by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:21 PM
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Pretty sure when you list out your actual requirements the men who meat them will be lower than 20%. Far lower actually
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:28 PM
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I'm not arguing for it to happening. I'm telling you this is the response men have to a culture that antagonizes them. When women are told about the consequences of their actions they view it as a threat. When they are told that there is a high likelihood for going to jail because they stole something they respond with "you are calling for violence and threatening me."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:59 PM
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Could not care less when you see us as worse than wild beast. There is no cultural recovering from this. Best of luck as it only gets worse from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:28 PM
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Not the gotcha you think it is. It was a play on the trope of the male patriarch having a shotgun ready whenever the overprotected daughter brings any boy home. Of course men can be potentially dangerous and harmful to a woman. As can a woman to a man. But to prefer a bear that will kill you over a man? Yikes. Regardless, another one of your senseless takes means nothing to the general flow of the discussion. Men are waking up and they aren't going to tolerate the disrespect from women. I expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:24 PM
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If I was planning a date with a polar bear I'd show up with a shotgun too. Guaranteed. Nothing of what you said has zilch to do with preferring a wild beast over a rational human being. You wrote all that to say absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:19 PM
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Yeah this is an eye opening cultural experience. I mean I already knew how bad it was before this but this is going to change a lot of mens minds en masse. Men are seeing the naked disrespect and hatred of the modern man for what it really is and increasingly they aren't tolerating it. As has been said, no one can turn a man red pilled faster than a woman can. The way woman have reacted to this scenario basically calling men worse than wild beast is a bridge to far and culturally there is no goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:33 PM
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Go live with them then. They are better than being around men after all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:29 PM
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Those are your requirements? You're taking the first man that meets these standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:24 PM
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Ignoring sex you still have infinite options for relationships. And no these aren't all violent predators who just want to use you for sex. But when you think that 80% of men are unattractive and have "biological waste" then naturally yes you aren't going to have very many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:21 PM
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Are they though? I see nothing here except men resenting or openly hating their mothers and most men claim that women "ought" to relish the exhausting task of lifelong parenthood while expressing outrage that new mothers aren't prioritizing the sexual servitude of their husbands post partum. You do? I haven't seen a single man here talk shit about their mom. Almost like you're entirely making this up to prove whatever deluded point you decided to come up with today
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:11 AM
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Which kind of bears are we talking about? No, a polar bear isn't "nearly always" going to try to run away from you. In fact, they're "nearly always" going to try and kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:46 AM
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Misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:43 AM
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It is true. Women want big strong dominant men. This is to protect them of course but the flip of that is that these men are the most capable of physically harming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:19 AM
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This is just another trend for women to justify their misandry and demonize men as these uncontrollable savage monsters. And then y'all wonder why more men want AI sexbots. I don't think they wonder about it. I don't think they care at all. In fact, they think it's a good thing if otherwise undesirable men self-select out of the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:39 AM
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The difference is that men don't have infinite options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:30 AM
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He gave you an example...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:38 PM
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Pretty normal and yet somehow, magically, 80% of men cannot reach them. And the number that can shrinks by the day. I listen exactly to what women say. No lies are required - your standards are ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:06 AM
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Many of those heartbreaking situations were partially of their own making. I think your empathy would become quite limited if you had a strong dislike of the person in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:04 AM
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It is typical to have less empathy for the "struggles" of those with a privileged life, especially when said privilege was built on unfair advantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:19 AM
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No, I'm one of those men who thinks woman's standards are outrageously and unsustainably high because they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:18 AM
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Probably not. Do you empathize with rich people on different topics as much as you do the underprivileged?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:53 PM
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Are you asking if I empathize with a strawmann?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:30 PM
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And yet they all magically still find them attractive. And they all think to themselves "Well if I can't have him or someone like him, I'm better off being single 😤" This is the extreme entitlement and level of delusion of the modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:27 PM
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That's not what you'd hear if you asked the bulk of women here. They'd say I do this purely for myself. 99% of women caking themselves in makeup everyday purely for themselves and it has zilch to do with anyone else, least of all men. Your reason is legitimate and the real reason the vast majority of women wear the stuff - the social aspect and pressure - but that's not what women here will usually say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:54 AM
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Aren't women boss babes who don't do stuff for men? What happened to all that? Anytime I bring up makeup the first thing said is "I do this for myself not anyone else!!!" But when it comes to shaving all of a sudden, as if by magic, women start caring about what men think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:51 AM
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Most dudes do not like landwhales bro. Being fat is not attractive. Men who seek this out are without question the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:37 AM
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Most men do not like fat chicks. Curvy woman maybe, but not straight up fat. Chubby chasers are a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:30 AM
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No I cannot. Women hold all the cards in modern dating. They have all the privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:55 AM
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Even compared to a scientist that discovered a new element, we can still feel superior because well.. we fucked more than they did Lol yeah man you go get em, definitely achieving big things there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:17 PM
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They still have to have something else going for them. If they just say fuck the standard and act like a loser woman are going to... surprise... treat them like a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:16 PM
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Mmm... Not so sure about that chief. I am attracted to the feminine and you'd be surprised...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:00 AM
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Do you have a kindergarten reading level? Yes, I said that relationships are not exceptional treatment. That is not the equivalent of saying they are not exclusive. I also said that in the context of women having a relationship with a man does not defacto mean they are treating them exceptionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:22 PM
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You are arguing that they are not exclusive and commonplace. When did I ever argue this? Go ahead, point it out. Quote exactly where I said this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:10 PM
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Yes. Like most women, you have entitled standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:01 PM
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Explain to me why it is only "exceptional treatment" for men. Go on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:52 PM
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How convenient is it that the women are typically antisocial (selfish, greedy, out for her own interest). Hence why it is so negatively looked upon to always need a man to do something for her. Start pulling your own weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 07:50 PM
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We know the bar for women is on the floor. We are talking about women's crazy delusional standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:08 PM
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The cultural expectation for men to pay for dates has already been challenged. Look at any Reddit thread and you’ll see many, many women who insist they go 50/50 as a preference. Hasn't been challenged enough clearly, else women wouldn't lead with the expectation and that men are somehow "lesser" for not doing it. You even asserted yourself that men who provide more tend to be more generous compared to the penny pinchers. That is not a neutral evaluation - you are saying that the men who pay you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:57 PM
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I already do that. What I'm disagreeing with is the social notion that the man must pay. That expectation needs to go. It should be no more of a preference than having a gamer guy for a relationship would be. Furthermore, a guy is not more generous or whatever simply because he chooses to pay your way through life. That I definitely disagree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:38 PM
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Sure I can, I can also conceptualize the woman doing the same. I have yet to find an answer, anywhere all over this subreddit, why it has to be the man who provides these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:22 PM
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Bruh, if anyone need an explanation of what a man is, then there really isn’t any point. That’s a journey that every dude should have started within himself long ago. ? You just told me what a man was. And I'm asking according to who. Since when did exchanging money with people make someone a man lol. You can't even defend your own ludicrous statements And despite dismissing it as “cute” the fact is: if she’s attractive, there are plenty of dudes willing take her out. Same as it ever was. That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:07 PM
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So then why do plenty of girls get pumped and dumped after going on a date where the guy pays?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:59 PM
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So you prevent pumping and dumping by having the gut spend money on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:57 PM
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Don’t! If you really think you alone are enough then try it out and see what happens! I am lol. A woman who expects to be paid for on dates and wined and dined is not a woman I'd be attracted to. Will other dudes be willing to pay for dates when they ask a girl! Yup. Plenty. So: what makes a guy that doesn’t want to better than them? What makes him so special? I mean it: some guys can pull off broke and still pull. So if a dude can then go for it; he probably should be prepared to SHOW what sets…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:48 PM
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Well no because I'm not attracted to them lol. What you're describing just sounds like golddigging with extra steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:46 PM
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Why should I have to pay to go on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:40 PM
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So what defines a man or not is him paying for a date? Like you actually believe in this nonsense?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:36 PM
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By treat well you mean being a "provider" and offering a bunch nice things and trips?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:34 PM
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Sex and relationships are "exceptional treatment" ? And this only applies to men right? You wouldn't classify it that way when it comes to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:25 PM
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And you'd still rather be around a bear. Honestly it's sad hearing this rhetoric. Oh well, men bad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:52 AM
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But especially bears. Hence why you even made the comment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:42 AM
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Just not around the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:38 AM
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He never at any point said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:19 PM
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A lot of thinking in this world is black and white. Doesn't mean I don't agree with the criticisms of the red pill. But "red pilled guy" has a certain image attached to it whether one wants to admit it or not and I do not fit in with the stereotype of said image in any capacity. So the term isn't very useful as a description for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:26 PM
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Yes and if you aren't a Democrat you are a Republican. I have no interest in binary black and white level of thinking and very little interest in the views of those who can only see the world that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:11 PM
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According to who? Also I never said I was no pill. Turns out there aren't only 3 pill options just like there aren't only 3 political opinions (Democrat, Republican, Independent).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:25 PM
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Blue pill is not everyone who doesn't subscribe to the red or black pill. I don't subscribe to either and I'm about the farthest away from blue pill that you can get. Blue pill is essentially the people who believe in the social script without questioning it. It's those who follow the status quo with no resistance and believe that it is the Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:33 PM
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I have seen this play out in real life too. So everything you said is wrong. No I've seen it play out in real life so everything you said is wrong. You are going to have a tough time proving that with most couples the woman is completely infatuated with her male partner. A really tough time in fact, but you're free to make your case. That is how you argue. Do you accept these arguments as well when they are directed at yourself? Didn't seem like you were putting up much of an argument. Really ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:22 PM
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I was just emphasizing that the portion of men who don't experience good relationship interactions themselves is a tiny minority. This means that they have ample exmaples in their social circles, media, online, etc. to realize that their own experience is not something they should regard as the only way or the normal way male/female interactions are. No one asked you to emphasize it. He already expressed that the majority of men here likely haven't experienced relationships. yes they do. Dead be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:21 PM
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Firstly, he said most men here so no idea why you're talking about being a minority of course this sub is a minority of all men in the entire world. Secondly, most men definitely do not experience what OP was talking about. Dead bedrooms are extremely common in relationships and the majority of women are not drooling over their man every chance they get. That is reserved for special guys
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:34 PM
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I feel bad for the large number of lonely men. It's a shame how terribly they're treated in modern dating while woman get free reign to do what they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 11:57 PM
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You gonna put forth an actual argument or just more gaslighting?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:42 PM
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Women are alone by choice so it's not the same. It's like the rich kid talking about how hard their life is and how depressed they are. No one wants to hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 07:32 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:28 PM
1

And the way you answered it was wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:25 PM
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Essentially "does he have a career and can he provide for me?" That's what their definition of mature is. And given that adult teenagers and young 20s are usually still in college the answer to that question is "no" and so they see them as puppy boys or whatever. It's nothing to do with making rational and sound decisions because if that's what we are going off, I've seen plenty of 16 year olds who are more mature than people in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:24 PM
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???? What an utterly degrading comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:18 PM
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Ignorance is actually quite expected all around, mature and young. There's nothing abnormal about it it's baked into the majority of people. Genuinely wise people are rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:17 PM
3

But he's not 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:16 PM
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Because women have unrealistic standards. A woman's struggle is not comparable to a man's - full stop. You cannot struggle as a woman. What you can have is standards that are way too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:21 PM
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Like, I face so much struggle due to the area I live in and you are now the second guy who is invalidating it. I don’t understand why some of y’all do this. I’ll never invalidate a man’s dating struggles, but so many men have no issue invalidating a woman’s dating struggles. Exactly why we’ll never get anywhere with these topics. I mean you can't invalidate a man's dating options because they're genuine. Lower your standards and you'll find someone. Perhaps be willing to change areas if possible…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:20 PM
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Either way, this mindset is a you issue. Not theirs. Why are you bothered that people spend their money travelling? It's vain and harmful to the environment, for one. I do not idolize the lifestyle of those who frequently travel whatsoever. It is a first world privileged mindset and the culture that it comes with needs to die. Yes, I very much mind people taking luxury vacations every season while burning up the planet just like I mind Taylor Swift and her 3 jets.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:54 PM
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The thousands of guys in her DMs says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:44 PM
1

? What. There are strict energy requirements necessary to keep society functioning. There's already a term for what this means - the people who perform these functions are called essential workers. I'm sure you've heard of it before. So no, it's not just some made up fantasy I came up with. And fakeup is not essential for society or even healthy for its continuance. It's a detriment in many respects - unlike art, music, theatre etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:50 PM
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Concerning environmental aspects: it's the same as every consumer decision, the range goes from natural, organic and animal-testing-free products to those with minerals mined by child labourers. Except this is not a necessary practice for the functioning of society. Not even in the slightest. I don't excuse other practices on the basis of that - it is society that needs to change if said practices harm it, but to act like putting on paint to appear superficial is in anyway comparable to mining f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:40 PM
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I'm well aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:21 PM
1

As I said: it's one part of a package, just like haircut, clean and fitting clothes/shoes, tasteful jewellery etc. But you seem to have a strange makeup fixation and I don't really get why. Because it isn't basic grooming - it's altering your appearance entirely in an artificial manner. It's also harmful to both your body and the environment. This is something that isn't talked about nearly enough; your attempt to fake beauty has a very real cost associated with it. Getting a haircut does not lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:08 PM
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It is ultimately tied to your ability to attract a mate. The whole reason beauty is esteemed, especially in woman, is because it leads to the ability to attract a higher quality partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:05 PM
1

? Want to pinpoint where I said that? Is English your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:33 PM
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Everybody, I guess? I like looking like I have my shit together as that usually garners a more positive response. And the only way to look like you have your shit together is to put on fakeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:13 PM
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Old ladies also don't wear makeup to attract young fit men. You are doing it to impress others at a subconscious level ie look at how beautiful I am even though it's not real
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:12 PM
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Ya it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:10 PM
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Can you repeat that again please but slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:10 PM
1

? Want to pinpoint where I said that? It is a fact that the majority of women wear makeup because it is socially expected to do so. That's like the very definition of a social norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:38 AM
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This is just blatantly false. Like why do you have to lie though 🤦🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:30 AM
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When it is not done for themselves but for the sake of a social norms no, it does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:24 AM
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This comment is shallow Our culture is shallow. You underestimate just how much leeway attractive people get
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:52 AM
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It's still for dudes. They get clowned on by other women for their inability to attract HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:11 AM
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I've actually thought about this before reading your post. It's in light with the fact that if some men were to wear makeup and look more beautiful resulting in more attention, it would pressure men as a whole to do so. But then I'd imagine many men wouldn't give a damn and say to hell with that standard. While I couldn't claim to be as apathetic, I'd also resist the norm because I'm not going to put on a mask and present myself as something I'm not just because society says it's what you have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:09 AM
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A little bit of make-up (concealer, blush, eyebrows, mascara) is often what's needed for many women to look "polished" or "professional" according to society's standards. If I was a guy, I'd still do my eyebrows (plucking) and use concealer because, why wouldn't I? I mean why would you? Who exactly are you trying to impress?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:07 AM
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How is it self confidence when you are putting on a mask specifically to hide the way you naturally look?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:06 AM
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? What lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:44 AM
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Any form of income is ultimately a job No, that's not how this works. That's how you want to perceive the world in a late stage capitalist system. Scalping is a form of income. It definitely isn't a job. Taking pictures of your butthole for income is a form of income. It isn't a job. There's no amount of mental gymnastics you can do to try to force the narrative that taking pictures of your private parts and blasting it all over the Internet is a job comparable to being a doctor or engineer etc …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:28 AM
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Showing your butthole on a picture is hardly "content creation." And content creation is content creation. It's not literally a job but it is a form of income for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:48 AM
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The issue right now is it seems like more women are taking that option than men, indicating that currently relationships have more value to men than women. No it's just that women are much more easily able to acquire relationships because their standards are outrageous right now. It's not that women want to be spinster cat ladies, it's that any man who is actually in her league to date would be "settling."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:24 AM
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Sharing your butthole for everyone to see online is not a "job."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:02 PM
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It's funny because the incels were right about a lot of things. I remember them saying a decade ago how screwed generation Z men are. Look where we are now with singledom rates across men higher than they've ever been and increasing by the day. It's sad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:16 PM
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I'm almost 40 and I can only think of one time in my entire life where I was respectfully approached by a non-trashy man. Or, that particular man was the only one who you considered suitable and all of the rest were utter trash to you. This is just females extreme reality detached hyperselectivity and hypergamous nature put into text form.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:45 PM
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It's implied. She sees herself as inherently valuable so of course I shouldn't have to do anything! Laundry list of requirements for men - radio silence for what is required of women. Y'all expectations really need to be brought back down to reality because it is out of control right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:37 PM
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Not necessarily. Because these girls are more open they're also more likely to express interest in you, directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:06 PM
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It's because of the power imbalance. Women are extremely privileged when it comes to choosing relationships. So when they still choose the toxic guy despite the abunance of options they get hammered hard because "you can definitely do much better." Meanwhile for guys the toxic girl may legitimately be the only person who he could form a relationship with, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:03 PM
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Yes. Just go on a dating app
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:17 PM
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No the comparison is pretty fair. An average not fat decent looking girl is going to have thousands of people in her DMs. It's actually a very good comparison to that of a male celebrity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:04 AM
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Civilization* Isn't civilization the one that's dying out?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:31 PM
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Reality is that women are under NO OBLIGATION to help perpetuate a patriarchal, old boys' club "civilization" that has historically literally treated them like livestock property. And now entitled boys are finding out just how vital women really are to their whole system. I mean you're not wrong but the reality is that many of these women depend of this civilization. Billions of them in fact. When it goes so do they. So unless they've all been secretly prepping and sharpening their hunter skills…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:20 PM
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It doesn't matter, men don't have the same selective options as women. Women do not "have a hard time" in any universe. It's not even close to being what guys go through
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:04 PM
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Lol, are you projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:43 PM
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? This doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:38 PM
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This applies to men only. Guys that are not desirable cannot afford to be selective. He doesn't have 1000 people in his DMs at the ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:24 PM
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You are not answering my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:55 AM
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Let me ask the question again to clarify: What has feminism actually done for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:49 AM
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? What has feminism ever done for men. It's clearly a movement by and for women with zero regards to the health of men in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:22 AM
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The goal is never to make sense. It's to have all of the privileges with zero of the responsibilities. What I don't get is how they've convinced themselves any man is dumb enough to fall for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:43 PM
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No, believe means you actually think what they're saying is true. Investigate means finding out what actually is true. The only time you don't investigate is when you think they're lying, which is when you believe what they're saying is not true. You are twisting the definition of believe to make it lighter than what it is. No, every woman should not be believed on their word alone but people should try to find out what actually happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:46 PM
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No that's not the way this works. Withhold judgement until the facts are established. Outright believing them is insane especially when there are people known to cry wolf. You are going to far in the other direction. Way too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:27 PM
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Not how this works lol. Feel free to try again
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:20 AM
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Best response here. As society gets more and more tough for men the average man checks out and women all begin to gravitate to the same top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:46 AM
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If you do sports or something that's the same shit, but pretty much every athlete also works out because it's just good for you. Pretty much every athlete works out because they need it to gain a competitive advantage lol. The comment you are defending said this btw: >everyone should be in the gym in the first place. Saying "fitness isn't me" just means you're a lazy fuck. The gym and physical activity aren't the same thing. No, not everyone needs to be in the gym. You can be perfectly healthy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 12:41 AM
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What the hell does that have to do with going to the gym lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:21 PM
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We've had the equivalent of porn since the first caveman decided to draw erotic art on the walls. Men have always jerked off to images of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:08 PM
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also, everyone should be in the gym in the first place. Saying "fitness isn't me" just means you're a lazy fuck. Forget women being a fat fuck isn't good for you period. Okay... What if you're not fat and still don't want to go to the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:38 PM
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The nuclear family is a modern day social construct invented by capitalism. The material standards of our time are also an anomaly. There is no guarantee that they will last. One thing all civilizations have in common is that they eventually fall and ours isn't exactly on the up and up at present. The reality of the situation is simple - we do far better as humans socially when we are raised around multiple people whom we trust. Notice now that the economy isn't doing so hot we begin to rely on …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:14 PM
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Nuclear families is 'patriarchy' or something and marriage is an attempt by men to enslave women, last time i debated this topic with feminists. Both of these things developed late in human history, especially the former. Nuclear families are undoubtedly a historical anomaly. "It takes a village to raise a child" is a proverbial phrase for a reason and the only reason our system has pushed people to form nuclear families is so that we can rely on our extended support family structures less and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:37 PM
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Men on the other hand have a habit of mate guarding and many likely see a woman without friends as less likely to stray and easier to control. Or that they don't follow the herd. Lone wolf woman are actually among the women I find most attractive. Partially because I am one myself but also because it means they have a mind of their own and they're strong enough to follow through with it regardless of the negative social consequence. That sort of resilience is highly attractive - it has nothing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:46 AM
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But they do blame others. That's the entire point he's bringing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 03:18 AM
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If you think it's a capitalist hellscape, I don't want to have anything to do with you. Ok so? I spend two-thirds of my waking hours practicing my trade (to the benefit of me, my family, and society including providers of capital) and I would hope a potential partner would be curious about that aspect of my life. I don't think I could have a relationship with someone who isn't. Nope don't particularly care unless it's something useful irrespective of money. In that case yes, but it'd be less of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:41 PM
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That's good then. Why do you need to do fervently ask what he does then? What does it matter if he's clever, funny, and appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 04:38 AM
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And are you dating men "lower on the totem pole" than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 04:18 AM
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Lack of compatibility because their source of income is different from what you'd like? Do you not see how hypergamous this comment is? It's the definition of shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:40 PM
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This is what they're talking about. There is a very snobby judgement element about this question and I've never seen it asked in a sincere way that doesn't reflect this. I couldn't give a hoot less what you do to earn a paycheck. I want to know who you are not what you do to put food on the table. To learn that I need to know about your hobbies and, most importantly, your personality. Your main job is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:38 PM
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It's pretty rude tbh. I've always found this question off-putting and a bit of a dick move to ask - male or female. Just like with mandatory tipping, it needs to go. It's none of your business what I need to do to survive in this capitalist hellscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:31 PM
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1m is not ultra rich lol. Just barely scraping by on being a millionaire does that qualify one as "ultra" rich. These terms have meanings. Yes you're rich if you're a millionaire. No it isn't quite near the point where you have fuck you levels money similar to a Jeff bezos level of rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:46 AM
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Based. A sensible take
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:31 AM
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Like how
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:17 AM
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It is? Think money can buy a healthy environment back?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:45 AM
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Money cannot by anything. It's one of the many lies told by a society that worships money and puts capitalism on the altar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:13 PM
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I agree, it takes a lot of competence to be a trust fund baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:51 PM
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That explains the balanced perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:36 AM
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Why are we talking about people in terms of prices and markets? What is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:46 PM
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That has nothing to do with the clergy lol. It has everything to do with men evolutionary wanting to avoid promiscuous women for very predictable reasons. No I don't want a woman as a partner who's had hundreds of dicks inside of her. It's literally gross
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:33 PM
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Isn't this exactly what OP wrote about? How women have their own stuff and yet still expect men to "invest" in them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:24 PM
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Girls won't fuck anything though You've kind of just proven the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:14 PM
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I'm not talking about the more extremist views that are gaining traction because the gaslighting cartoonish views of mainstream society aren't working. I'm talking about the mainstream itself. It needs to be on the tip of the tongue of every male in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:54 PM
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Uh huh whereas women are perfect out of the box and don't need to do anything. It's a man's fault if he's not a part of the 20% of desirable winners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:53 PM
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They have more than enough options guys will fuck anything. That's where the whole paper bag joke comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:12 PM
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They have more than their fair share of options by virtue of being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:47 PM
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Or course the canned response. Men also bring sex to the table. If that's the only thing she can bring to the table then it makes sense why women, at large, are seen as lower quality than men. It's no better than being a cumdumpster.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:12 PM
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That's not how it works in the real world Delusional people are free to believe what they will of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:10 PM
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But who they are will outweigh any dissatisfaction with that. We can't all date 10's, instead of looking for superficial qualities that people have little control over look for who they are. This is why even if many of those of the previous generations weren't initially attracted much to each other they where still able to love each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:55 PM
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They'll still settle. And they might even fall in love with that person overtime. Unfortunately for fat and ugly girls alike it's Chad only.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:49 PM
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It needs to go mainstream. Just in this subreddit isn't enough. It needs to be frequently talked about how ridiculous the things women look for are while providing zero value themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:47 PM
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But oh what a tragedy, low quality fat guys, single dads, guys who are too old or too young, and especially ugly guys are tragic figures deserving of empathy. Of course they are. They're the ones who get the most shit while having no desirability because their match in the opposite sex still wants an attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:45 PM
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Oh? Explain what it is that low quality women bring to the table. Go on - and please do better than the canned response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:43 PM
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Because they still have infinite options. They're never truly alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:41 PM
1

Not necessarily. People tend to watch guys for content that's more "serious."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:38 PM
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For sure. They really do be acting like if they so much as put their pinky toe outside they risk getting murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:30 PM
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I really could not care less. Like at all. You are a loser woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:29 PM
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Ah yes might make rights. Just world fallacy. All of the logical fallacies wrapped up into one. The world didn't just smoothly progress into what it is, for the record. There were many violent revolutions to make it the way it is. There will be more in the future. "The people that actually matter" changes all the time. You're certainly not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:18 PM
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Uh most is doing a lot of heavy lifting there kiddo. It's only most because you include 50% of the population by default with the word women. Remove them and we are talking about less than 20% of males. No, society shouldn't be balanced around a minority of the male population. It shouldn't even be balanced around 60% of the population with this majority nonsense. Otherwise only white people should have their problems heard and no one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:48 PM
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Okay how many people are women or an attractive male? I don't care about what you want I care about what's healthy for society. And gaslighting every man you find unattractive is the fastest way to getting you appropriately labeled some very unpleasant names.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:44 AM
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You don't seem like a good faith person. Bless your heart indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:49 AM
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And my opinion is objectively correct. Your free to live and delusion land and think you are 10. But you are also free to be wrong about that opinion. Your not a 10 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:45 AM
12

That's cute, your still not a 10. Next
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:38 AM
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You're not a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:27 AM
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And? I don't want more assholes in the world so that they can fuck more women lol. There are enough assholes as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 11:37 PM
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You don't hear that type of complaining from me. Not every man just wants sex. And I'd be the last person to act sleezy just to get in a woman's pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 11:31 PM
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Okay but I don't have the sort of personality where I would act differently just to obtain a date. It would be counterproductive. I also do not desire sex that much lol. No idea why you're putting it on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 11:21 PM
3

Does the Joker get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:30 PM
2

In a world where my only concern was a high success rate with women? I probably would to be perfectly honest with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:17 PM
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Except they don't make 20,000 post a day foaming at the mouth. They criticize the modern dating and rightfully so, because it's trash. You'd need to have the blindfolds ducktaped on not to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:15 PM
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Humans are definitely animals lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:39 PM
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You're a woman, of course it's going to be easy for you. There is a reason the loneliness crisis is making national headlines. You can chill out with the gaslighting it's honestly disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 12:27 PM
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Breaking: I was talking about enough women to fix the loneliness crisis Reading is hard I know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:54 AM
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Oh no she'll never get this guy but these are her standards. That's why she prefers to remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:57 AM
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Yup. Have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:38 AM
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Almost certainly, yes lol. Without question. They'd see all the things we've been complaining about almost immediately and would become empathetic to our struggles overnight. I think the great cure for the modern dating situation would be for women to experience what it's like trying to date women. Unfortunately due to how biology works that won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:09 AM
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Women's standards, at least in America, are actually the lowest they've ever been. Women just have more choices now. Nope they're as high as they've ever been. They increased with the times. Women didn't use to demand big houses and a nice car because those things either didn't exist/people didn't have them yet. Now it's practically a requirement thanks to the abundance of fossil energy. This is also proof of hypergamy and the fact that "upping your game" is not a realistic solutions since women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:55 PM
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When did I ever say anything about rape and slavery? Is strawmanning a daily habit or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:50 PM
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Of the breakdown of society? Of us killing the planet? ...do you live under a rock ma'am?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:41 PM
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Okay? And if people doing what they want leads to the breakdown of society and the planet as we know it? Then what? Should we just let that be? Let the immature children destroy everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:36 PM
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I want relationships to be more egalitarian, yes. I also want society to be more egalitarian. Do you believe it should be the opposite? Do you think this is how society should be structured where Chad wins all?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:32 PM
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It's just sad if you accept this and don't have any will to fight back against it. Like that truly is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:27 PM
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We know. With the way women date it'd put even the most tycoon capitalist to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:24 PM
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Ehh if someone kept pretending to be a fan for something they obviously knew nothing about I absolutely would look at them side eyed. My interest in things are sufficiently deep that I usually don't encounter these people but I'd want nothing to do with someone faking liking stuff just to get some form of attention or validation from others. It's such shallow behavior and also pickmeish
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:14 PM
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that doing this with women too is going to hurt their chances at having sex. ...And? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:44 PM
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Just insulting another woman is not pickme behavior. Being a mean girl is not being a pickme. It has to be done as an attempt to not look like the typical female and impress one of the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:54 PM
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Not civilization though. Civilization is a blip compared to the rest of human history. That's why our instincts often seem to run so counter to it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:15 PM
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This isn't a pickme lol. This is the typical entitled bordering narcissist female behavior. A pickme would say "I'm not like the other girls" and hang around the guys a lot trying to please them with how much she knows about football or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:08 PM
1

He never said something came up, he said she made an excuse to leave. Why are you injecting your own words into the story?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 07:22 PM
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No, she lied. It was never said that she said "oh something has came up." It was said that she made an excuse to leave. Stop injecting things into the story to fit your personal narrative to counteract the fact that she lied to get out of the situation. And yes, I think people should go around being honest to each other. I think people should tell the truth. Are you saying we should all go around lying to each other? Like my God, are you listening to yourself right now? Seriously, this is so pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:35 PM
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Uh huh, you go get em king. Any of the amazing female friends I know would not touch a man like you with a 10 foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:23 PM
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No one ever said you were lonely. No one was even talking about you. And this individual "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" mentality when it comes to decaying social relations is nonsense when it's clear that this is a societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:21 PM
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"tact and decorum" isn't lying to avoid social clash. There's nothing honorable or good about lying lol. You're not supposed to lie, the fact that I even have to say this is pathetic - you are defending lying. Your boss might not directly tell you you suck at your job but that's different from lying. Your boss shouldn't lie and say you are good at your job to spare your feelings when you really aren't. Him saying "you need some improvement" isn't lying - it's literally the truth but said nicely …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:18 PM
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And she lied in order to end it, which you encourage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:16 PM
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A societal norm to lie? Nothing about this is polite. People act honest all the time - apparently you aren't one of them. The polite thing to do would be to be honest and excuse yourself, simple. Nothing about her behavior was "gracious" as you were alluding to - she acted like an ass. You and people like you refusing to accept simple truths is a big part of what's wrong with the world today.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:05 AM
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These guys already know it’s part of why some of them are salty. Women can be sluts and still find relationship success. Meanwhile dudes struggling just to get a first date. Feels cruel, especially if you’ve been seriously trying and aren’t a bad guy. I don't think there is a single soul around these parts who says the opposite. Sounds like you're arguing against a strawmann.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:17 AM
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Men don't reward it en masse. A woman that plays hard to get will quickly lose my interest. To be completely honest, I probably wouldn't have been interested to begin with because the type who even has it in her mind to play hard to get aren't my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:11 AM
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It's not gracious because she made excuses. The gracious thing would have been to outright say this won't work then excuse herself. This is low-key entitled behavior; I'm not surprised he knew it wouldn't work initially this girl sounds like an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:03 AM
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You and millions of other women. Hence the loneliness crisis. Unfortunately not everyone can have Chad and this situation is not sustainable. And no unsustainable doesn't mean "kind of bad" it means the tomfoolery will necessarily come to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:58 AM
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Your going to want to find a relationship eventually. Can't spend your entire life chasing woman to be fuck buddies. Even disregarding that entirely, your statement is still hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:57 AM
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Seems like you're waiting for Chad Your going to be single for a long time in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:13 PM
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Just sounds like being a hypocrite with extra steps. A woman like this would be cut off for good. I'm not out here to find fuck buddies I want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:58 PM
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I'm sure you do like the money you have. What you shouldn't like is the money you have more than the character and well-being of the people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:18 AM
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It's a piece of paper. It signals your ability to abide by the rules and follow the course in industrial capitalist society, yes, but at the end of the day it's a piece of paper. That's all it is. For the record I also don't believe looks should be the major factor in dating someone. No superficial category should make or break whether you decide to commit to someone. What matters most of all is who they are, not this or that kind of degree, how hot they are, or if they're 6 feet or not. You mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:18 AM
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The point is to change corrupt institutions, not to accept them at face value and abide by the laws of evil lol. You are not supposed to worship money 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:13 AM
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Why does the man specifically have to have a piece of paper from college? Believe it or not this is a standard associated with hypergamy since well educated women won't date down to men who don't have the same degrees as them. Women also go to and obtain degrees at a higher rate than men - do the math. I'm also an educated man. I don't look for my partner to have a piece of paper lol. That is not the defining quality I'm looking for that makes or breaks a relationship. Do I want them to be intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:41 PM
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Good for you. You’re a typical man who doesn’t care what she makes just how she looks. Men don’t want fat women. Women don’t want lazy men. It’s evolutionary biology. Except I'm not a typical man. Far from it actually. I also do not decide my partners based on looks lol. You can be the "hottest" woman but if your an asshole then I want nothing to do with you. Hypergamy goes both ways just different motivators. Men prefer younger prettier women. Women prefer educated ambitious men. 🤷‍♀️ Women als…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:24 PM
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No, the desire to constantly date up and not even so much as look at a man who's your equal or gasp worse is disgusting. Plain and simple. Being lazy =/= not going to college lol. A college degree does not indicate intelligence or ambition 😂 I'd gladly date someone who didn't even graduate high school if they shared my perspective on the world and completed the traits I was weak at/lack. I don't decide life partners based off the sheets of paper they've obtained.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 01:11 PM
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Ma'am this is called hypergamy. It's well talked about here. You do not constantly need to date up. You do not need a man who's your better in every way, shape, and fashion. A man with a good personality and strong character should be good enough but women seem to want more for whatever reason and it's disgusting. You are literally saying "if this man hasn't earned this piece of paper then I don't want him 😤"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:46 PM
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And my philosophy is that if people are acting more terrible than before and it's leading to a breakdown in social relations, then perhaps we should do something about it? Like you acknowledge these are potential problems but then you just throw your hands up and go "🤷 that's just how it is man people can be assholes you know not just men that's just how it is" instead of taking a more reasonable approach about how to get people to stop acting like jerks en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:26 AM
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Women weren't nearly as cruel with rejections in the past. Dating wasn't nearly as bad. Your individualistic mentality does not help in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:02 AM
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Failure is normal and the world doesn't owe you its attention or care. Learn some damn resilience. The world is also cruel. The point isn't to accept that cruelty and move forward. The point is to try and change it. I couldn't give less of a damn about your toxic boomer "suck it up" individualistic mentality. It's what created many of the problems we are experiencing now in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:56 PM
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This is textbook toxic masculinity. And yes women do butcher men in their rejections. Every single day
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:56 PM
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You can say that all you want, but that is a product of this particular era. Most of human history has been nasty, brutish and short. I am not a moral relativist and will absolutely fight to argue against how terrible of a position it is. I'm also not a big fan of Thomas Hobbes - life outside of modern society was quite enjoyable in many places. It ABSOLUTELY does. To claim otherwise is to be straight up ignorant to historical reality. You mean the historical reality of cultures that have since …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:12 AM
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It’s not virtuous now, by the standards of our time. I'd say inflicting cruelty and genocide upon entire groups of people is not virtuous regardless of the time. That’s the issue with comparing historical eras to the present, standards of virtue change over time and place. It would’ve been “virtuous” of me to have multiple teenage wives in 380 BC Assyrian. Virtue does not change over time. You can actually give a universal definition for it. Virtue can be defined as the traits that are conducive…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:03 AM
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And nonetheless it wasn't virtuous. Why didn't women pick up on this? I mean surely they must have seen the cruelty being inflicted on these groups. Are women's virtue detector dependent on the times? Do they see assholes as being more virtuous and thus deserving of female attention than they really are because those are the traits society tells them are important?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:53 AM
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Hard to say. Women in the past looked pretty rough. If you removed the pounds of makeup modern women put on daily I'd say it's pretty equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:36 AM
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Yes. You can't even relate to them saying they're experiencing relation problems or anything to do with mental health. These appear to be issues of their own creation. It's like a rich person complaining about how depressed they are. Regardless of whether or not it's true, you cannot relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:23 AM
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And they’re only attractive to fellow gangster girls who also throw hands and fight, themselves. 🤣🤣🤣 Bro touch some grass, seriously man. It isn't just "gangster girls" that are throwing their bras on stage at these rappers. Very normal girls do this on the regular - you are severely out of touch and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:58 AM
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And why weren't they? Did women's virtue detector suddenly turn off?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:51 AM
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They don't already?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:42 AM
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And he likely doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:26 PM
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You don't realize that when you say something like this you're actually admitting defeat. I've seen many BP do this and they think it's some conversation ender or something. What this essentially translates to is: "the world is unfair, deal with it." Except the very thing we are complaining about is the fact that the world is so unfair. It's good for you to come outright and admit it instead of hiding behind a bunch of attacks and lies like others do (this has appropriately been termed gaslighti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:10 PM
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But women aren’t pretending. What woman has ever said that looks don’t matter at all? But they have said many, many, many times that there are other things that matter besides just looks. Plenty do say that or severely underestimate how important they are. They try to gaslight you about multiple other things to try to make it seem like you being single is a moral failing, when the simple fact of the matter is that you aren't getting a date with them cuz your ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:45 PM
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No it wouldn't. Your job is to explain how it would
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:49 PM
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What? That's not the take away from my comment. Your saying that since women have no free will, men are a predator to the entire gender right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:46 PM
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A predator to an entire gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:14 PM
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Which I already have and then some. Go troll somewhere else
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:48 AM
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But nothing he said was wrong. This bootstraps mentality needs to die along with the system that supports it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:45 PM
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Speed of my progress towards... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:52 AM
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Is it not? You said the "lesser" countries have trash moral sensibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:10 PM
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Then I don't have to follow the advice of other people since, as you said, it's "necessary and correct." I wouldn't hate the advice if it was actually true lol. Part of the reason I hate following it is because the advice is usually nonsense to begin with. I'm sure you'd be quite familiar with the sound of such advice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:32 PM
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That's nice. That doesn't mean just because someone is giving advice it is therefore "correct and necessary."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:09 PM
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Even the thought of this likely sounds repulsive to them. That tells you literally everything you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:46 PM
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I, too, believe the west has superior moral sensibilities. Such superior standards while colonizing the rest of the world and killing the planet while they're at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:45 PM
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I hate following a lot of the advice I and other people give out. So what? It’s still correct and necessary Says who? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:39 PM
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Lol, my ancestors were all in arranged marriages In other words arranged marriages were not here for most of human history
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:11 PM
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You said arranged marriages though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:49 PM
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Lol, my ancestors were all in arranged marriages with whoever was available in the area, like most of humanity Marriages haven't been around for most of humanity 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:13 PM
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Which we had more of until the state told you what you could and couldn't do. There were also less wars in which those rights and freedoms would be taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:27 AM
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There are single men who don't desire a relationship with some of the women interested in him and aren't engaging in hookup culture lol. Not every man is either in a relationship or a Chad slaying multiple women on rotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:25 AM
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It was far better for fucking too. Your ancestors were way hornier than you lol. Y'all get scared to even approach a man. Like the modern woman is an anomaly. I honestly don't know what's wrong but it's clear this society goes against what evolutionary women should be like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:22 AM
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No but it's a substitute just like porn is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:35 AM
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It’s never been better if your concern is people doing what they want and not doing what they don’t want Wrong. We had more freedom when there wasn't a state governing our every action. Not just in the way we acted but also in how dressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:59 AM
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Amen. So many people operate under the delusion that our modern society is the best there ever will be and the past 99% of humanity was just this painful gruesome existence of sorrow and torture daily. And yet people are more miserable than ever in modern society and the evidence consistently shows that people who live in much simpler societies where you aren't expected to spend the majority of your life working to make someone else rich live far happier lives. I'd give up modern civilization in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:46 AM
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I find these debates so exhausting. Everyone has a cross to bear. What I find incredibly lacking from most people is resilience. That's interesting, what I find most lacking from people is empathy. Everyone knows life isn’t fair, everyone still plays the game as best as you can until you don’t want to anymore or find the player that fits you. Or you can say fuck the game and try fixing it. Are history is rife with examples of this. Why play a game with broken rules and rigged results? Why not ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:21 AM
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Nah. Less judgement. Likely less expensive too Also a prostitute is for sex. Contrary to what most women love to think, men want an actual relationship not just to get his dick hard once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:08 AM
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Single guys are single cus they haven’t been picked. I'm going to push back on this a little as this isn't necessarily the case. You might say this is the case if he hasn't been picked by the woman he truly desires, but even that presupposes he's already met said woman. It's definitely not the case that single men are single because a woman hasn't picked him yet. Not every single man is totally undesirable with 0 options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:05 AM
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Bingo. Part of why I like coming here is for comments like this that hit things right on the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:54 PM
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"dominant presence" notice you had to throw that bit in there. I wouldn't describe MLK as a dominant man. Certainly not as as a leading adjective as I might with a warlord or tyrant. Charismatic maybe but not dominant. He was not the type to take command over conversations. But yes his presence likely was dominant given his status.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:49 PM
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No, dominance means there is someone being dominated. It is usually a negative trait although it does not necessarily have to be. When you think of a wise or virtuous person do you think dominant? I certainly don't. They can be dominant as in they can take over a situation, but you'd almost never describe them that way as a leading trait. It's only in the west and cultures like ours where dominant is seen a good trait because in this culture we like to colonize and assert our influence over the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:07 PM
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Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:04 PM
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Not in this society, no. Men are rated for their superficial traits (height, money, jawline) as well as their social dominance. No one gives a fuck about how good of a person you are. In a more just world perhaps but obviously we don't live in that kind of world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:09 PM
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His perspective is flawed. He’s basing his observations on a small percentage of women that tend to value visual aesthetics far greater than the average woman. Just take one look at married couples around you and recognize how all married dudes don’t look like “Chad”. It's not a small percentage though. It's most women. That's where your argument is flawed. The majority are attracted to men with these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:07 PM
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Not necessarily a good one. In fact more often than not it's a bad trait as it is often paired with arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:03 PM
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I’d still rather be alive now than any time in the past. I wouldn't. The world has embraced materialism at the cost of everything that really matters. We had far better relationships in the past. Now people are more lonely and disconnected than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:32 AM
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Why is getting a relationship supposed to be hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:31 AM
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You think wanting a relationship is unreasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:23 PM
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They're the privileged sex. It's never been as bad as it is now for the modern man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:22 PM
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Women are complicit though. I won't say they created the problem - it's roots go deep and is connected to declining economic opportunities which itself is connected to the rich and top 1% (these in part define who chad is). But to say women don't benefit or play any role in this whatsoever is going to far the other way. Woman can both do and choose better, not date rich assholes just because he's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:33 PM
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Chad is a top 20% male and even that is shrinking due to hypergamy. "Just become a top 20% male bro" is not advice because not everyone can be top 20%, by definition. Social media has corrupted standards and they need to be lowered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:29 PM
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By choosing the ever elusive Chad. That's not called the bar being on the ground - it's quite high. The bar being on the ground is the equivalent of a desperate man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:18 PM
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No one was talking about myself, get a grip. Stop projecting your delusion onto other people, please it's disgusting. Regardless of what you say men seek intimacy and connection and will not be able to find it in the modern landscapr. And yes trying to gaslight them and say it doesn't matter and "just get a life bro" will not work. It means exactly what I said and I'll continue to use it in this context because it is accurate. I won't pretend like women are fully to blame but they definitely pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:47 PM
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Retirement?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:42 AM
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Chad is the 666 male. It's the guy with high status - the alpha. It's the rich guy with many options that girls brag about sleeping with. Don't strawmann me and then attack an argument I never made. If it wasn't "so hard" 64% of younger men wouldn't be single. But go on and gaslight. Go on and talk about how men are all suddenly socially retarded and absolutely nothing has changed to make the dating landscape significantly harder for the average male. I'm sure that sentiment will change things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:34 AM
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Yeah.. the data doesn’t support that. Neither does my experience personally or of any woman I know, irl or online. Most of us have opted out of the dating market completely. Marriage is no longer a necessity to survive, and independent life is kind of amazing. We’re just not actively seeking relationships at the same rate women of the past did. Not a sentence of what you said contradicts what I said. I never said anything to the contrary of women not being content single. In fact, I hinted at it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:34 AM
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It's just men. Same with the loneliness epidemic - it's a male problem. Women are struggling to find chad. This is not even in the same ballpark of men simply struggling to find a partner or to get a crumb of affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:34 AM
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Legitimate troll response. Climate change deniers are such morons. We have nothing left to say here. Goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:46 AM
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Have you ever wondered why advanced civilizations put controls on female sexuality, while tribal assholes who are still trying to figure out how to use sticks and rocks let women run the show. They also seem to have a high propensity of murdering people and then eating them... Quite the take. Advanced civilization has murdered billions of people since it's existence, it's not even close. And those same advanced civilizations are destroying the very environment that they need to survive thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:17 AM
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The name definitely checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:57 AM
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Mainstream society is a pack of lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:23 AM
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I think you said that in reverse. Blue pill is a very specific ideology society pushes on people so that it can create pawns workers to further the aims of the rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:26 PM
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...no it's not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:25 PM
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Cope
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:06 AM
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This just ain't it man. This ain't the take. This is how the average man thinks, sure. Ruled by his monkey brain he thinks sex and good meat are all there is to life. But this is not how those who go on to do great things with their lives think. At all. Contrary to what you might think there are men who aspire to more. Men who want to be great and make major innovations. Men who want to live more pure lives and so don't seek easy material pleasures. They do this because the base animalistic plea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:46 AM
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Oh we are talking about only in the "real world" now? I'm sorry am I supposed to mindread you to know that next time? So I guess women posting about their experiences online now no longer count as something happening right? It just doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:34 AM
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Thing is you actually don't need money to either survive or thrive. But the way our system is set up forces you to suffer if you don't have it, assuming you live in one of many places on earth that civilizations have colonized. The difference is intimacy and social connection are innate biological needs. They're very human and independent of which kind of society you live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:16 AM
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Enough are like that that it's created a social phenomenal of singledom that is getting worse as time passes. And nothing in sight is going to change it. No these men aren't really below them. Most women do not lock down Chad lol. In our grandparents time they would have been able to have relationships with these women. But things have changed and social media has inflated ego. As the saying goes, the modern man has to work 5x harder for women that are 20x worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:44 AM
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Sure why not. Don't see how this is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:41 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:40 AM
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Honestly they aren't really below them. But through all the fakeup and fake social media validation they receive, they think these men are below them. Women view 80% of the male population as ugly lol. We want women to come back down to earth. To live in reality - for once. But we know they won't willingly do it not enmasse at least. At present they get high off their own farts. We are telling you how destructive this self aggrandizing narcissism is and it absolutely is a recipe that destroys so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:24 AM
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More or less yes. It certainly shouldn't be the dominant reason one chooses a partner. I wish we would choose more based on the actual attributes of a person. You know, things that we can change. I wish we did decide to date people because they were morally good and virtuous. But that's fantasy land talk and someone's height is a far more important attribute to judge a partner by.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:17 AM
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"I once gave an ugly guy a chance. Found out he was a massive douche after lol so we broke up" absolutely relates to what OP said in every way. She's saying she did once graciously give a guy beneath her the opportunity only to find out it wasn't worth it because he can be just as bad as the chads except ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:32 AM
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It's because our entire society encourages the shallowness. We literally worship the superficial. Picking up on how strange and fucked up it all is makes you the weird one - despite it being clear as day to anyone paying attention that it isn't working.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:20 AM
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Changing yourself is one way. Most people are attracted to extremely vapid things. Height? Jawline? Are you kidding me lol It all can be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:03 AM
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I actually have heard this said here. Multiple times. It's usually followed by "oh and he turned out to be a massive douche" or some other terrible quality which justified not seeing them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:00 AM
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The women here will tell you that those 30-40 men have no power (even as their number increases) and will just sit there stewing in their own filth as they continue to watch dozens of women flocking to the same 3 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:29 PM
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You said my outlook on life is disgusting. That’s me. No, it's your outlook which you can change. Are you now a human that is incapable of changing their views? Perhaps you are a robot? Furthermore, it’s not “gender inequality” to be a stay at home parent. It’s literally taking care of your own kid. Clearly you don’t value the work done by mothers and homemakers, work that is typically women’s work, and yet you whine about how staying home is “gender inequality”. I think men should all become st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:17 PM
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It's not "pie-in-the-sky" it's a real relationship and yes, there aren't many who have it because it requires genuine connection. But relationships in our society are not made for connection but rather stability. This is why the income of the man is so important. It is not necessary for there to be love or real connection between two individuals in this case, only that one can provide the environment by which to safely foster more children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:02 PM
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Nuclear families are very recent in humans history and have proved to fail. We have always lived in tribes with extended families. "It takes a village to raise a child" is a saying for a reason and has a great deal of truth to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:50 AM
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You can provide financially without being rich. also, reported for calling me disgusting. Poor reading comprehension? No where in my post did I call you a single name. And yes I'll say it again - your outlook on life is disgusting. It is exactly attitudes like this that lead to female entitlement and gender inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:45 AM
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A better man is not one who can provide better financially for you. You are not some prize to be acquired. There are plenty of terrible men that are rich. Your outlook on life and men is, quite frankly, disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:15 AM
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Definitely doesn't give them the ick. Never seen a man recoil or withdraw at a woman expressing interest in him unless that woman was really gross/creepy. Only then will they go shrivel and go "ewwwww." You should stop using that word to describe every single act that isn't accepted - it specifically refers to disgust and repulsion. Honestly the whole dynamic you are talking about discussing sounds toxic and is more akin to the games of what (usually immature) women do ie. work hard to chase me …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:52 AM
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The levels of entitlement expressed in your comments Just ...yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:25 AM
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No they don't. Most men appreciate when a woman openly expresses interest in him as it rarely happens, regardless of whether they'd date said woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:01 AM
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No lol. Certainly not in my case. While I wouldn't call myself submissive, I certainly don't want to always be on the hunt. I much prefer it when a woman expresses interest in me and when they come outright and say it instead of all the giggly games. There are women in the past who I would've dated (although it probably wouldn't have lasted) had they just came outright with their attraction instead of being super passive and always waiting to be asked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:52 AM
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This is a point that is not stretch enough in society writ large. While there are an abundance of relationships, quality relationships are few and far between. A big reason for this is that society doesn't particularly care for nor need quality relationships to achieve its aims.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:11 PM
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Being fair is when everyone can try right? We are really going to try to make this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:45 PM
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If this was to be taken seriously it would shut down everyone social justice movement in existence. All other past struggles should have never been attempted as the people "should have just learned to play with the hand they were dealt, I guess."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:02 PM
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...that's not what fair means. At all. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:59 PM
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Neither of these things are going to get you close to getting a woman on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:10 PM
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You mean to not be fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:10 PM
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And literally all you have to do is cake yourself in makeup and not be fat. Not exactly expert difficulty level
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:42 PM
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You’re being obtuse and disingenuous again. Notice how I specifically said “lipstick, fishnet stockings, and high heels” and instead of just admitting that you couldn’t refute that, you try to pretend that the whatever “makeup” men wore back then was actually equivalent to lipstick and stockings. It isn’t. Don’t move the goal post. Um, men wore high heels and they also wore lipstick lol. No one moved the goalpost you just refuse to answer the question and come back with an aCkShuaLly mEn dIdNt w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:31 PM
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Now you’re just being obtuse tbh. Unless this is your first day on planet earth, you already know that society has a pretty clear general agreement on what counts as masculine code and behavior. Nope it's not my first day on planet earth. Society has a bunch of arbitrary rules and I could not care less about the value people like yourself place on them. You don’t need me to tell you that lipstick, fishnet stockings, and high heels aren’t considered masculine dress code for heterosexual men, righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:07 PM
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I don't see any real difference and quite frankly, crossing at the calf can be downright uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:58 PM
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Who determines what's masculine code? Dresses, colors, makeup, heels for example. Why are these feminine vs masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:55 PM
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Who the hell knows and it's just one of the many reasons I've never cared to comply with these absurd gender standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:51 PM
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The other commenter gave a good response but the more general answer is it's the gendered hypermasculine expectations it places on men. You are expected to uphold all these values and ways of conduct and failure to do so is socially frowned upon and gets you labeled as "not a real man." Yet for many reasons it is not possible nor even desirable for many men to live in the way this society esteems as the ideal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:45 PM
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So what if he did lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:50 PM
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Couple that with the accelerating collapse of global industrial civilization and the ensuing societal chaos that causes, and we’re about to see the pendulum start swinging back in the next decade. Someone else talking about the imminent collapse of industrial civilization in a more mainstream sub. That's a site to behold
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:47 PM
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I strongly prefer it this way. Being wild and free in nature is the ideal, not caged by the arbitrary rules of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:44 PM
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Polygamy was common in primitives communities, it's not evolution. It's a step backwards... Do you think civilization is a step forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:43 PM
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He sort of said this though. Put simply if getting a girlfriend is very difficult to find like with today's hyper inflated standards, rather than try to "work to earn it" like some women believe men would do, men just drop out entirely and watch porn because it's far less effort while still offering a good level of reprieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:37 PM
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Gold diggers come in all tax brackets. A gold digging woman doesn't gain some kind of moral superiority by increasing her income, she's still a gold digger. I don't think anyone gains moral superiority by increasing their income
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:51 AM
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No. However there is a certain vibe I prefer to give off even if sitting at home by myself. I like wearing robes for this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:14 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:37 PM
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The rhetoric you have bought says that most young women are participating in hook up culture, when reality knows that it is a very small percentage of women who do. Your rhetoric tells you that it is factors outside your control that deem you undatable. You believe this because it justifies what you like to do, which is sit on a screen and be miserable. For one, I'm not undatable and nor am I miserable. I've had more than my fair chances at a relationship and still do. Good on making assumptions…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:06 AM
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Good, women should be called out for their insane out of touch standards. Demanding the very best, the most elite of of chads, while being completely mediocre themselves should be continuously shamed. I'm of the option we need far more of these type of post. Maybe they'll come back down to reality someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:37 AM
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My ancestors didn't do what they did to have this be the end of their civilization. You mean genocide entire groups of people, steal and harvest resources from their land, and then destroy the entire planet afterwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:33 AM
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What is there to be sympathetic about? How can one sympathize with delusional levels of entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:26 AM
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Yes they are. But then tell me how that, in any way whatsoever, explains the difficulty for each gender of getting into said relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:16 PM
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For women*
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:32 PM
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My initial comment was that I wouldn't date someone the same as myself. So I'm not exactly sure what you are arguing against I want someone different from myself in the ways that matter (gender, disposition, and yes to a certain extent, interest).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:30 PM
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Answer a simple question: Why must opposite genders - and even opposite forces - meet for the continuation of life? If we were so predisposed to like that which is the same as us, why aren't we en masse attracted to people of the same sex? Why is the difference of sexes a requirement for procreation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:22 PM
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Yes I like people that share the same value subset as me. I am a person that cares very much about the environment and having a relationship with someone who also cares about what we are doing to the planet is non negotiable. That does not mean I am attracted to someone with the exact same personality as me. It's the other way around actually, I want them to have a different approach about things to bring more diversity. Similar to how I'm attracted to someone of the same species as me but a dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:09 PM
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SMV just says how well you perform in capitalist society. It says nothing about who you are as a person. Part of the reason we view relationships as transactional is because that is the kind of society we live in where everything is about transactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:09 PM
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I wouldn't date me but I know a decent number of people who might. That's part of being human - of being alive actually. Why would I want to date someone exactly like myself lol. I explicitly want someone different, that's why we seek someone of the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:58 PM
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I want the kind of life Hawaiians had before colonization. Fuck this puritan work ethic nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:53 PM
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...Is it not collapsing already?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:53 PM
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This is true without question. The challenge for many people is finding a worthy cause they're actually passionate about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:38 PM
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They're all looking for that top 20% man. And if they can't find him they're content to remain single
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:40 PM
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It doesn't which is why there is a loneliness epidemic that continues to get worse. 64% of men are single. But to answer your question, situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:51 PM
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Chad. The top 20% of men - this has been discussed at length.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:09 AM
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Well yes, they're a woman lol All you have to do is show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:08 AM
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All women do to be honest. If a juice ain't worth the squeeze why bother trying. With so many women's standards at the moon these days, most guys would rather wack it single and play video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:48 PM
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...This is sad. It's actually more than that - it's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:33 PM
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This sums up your rationale in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:14 AM
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You mean they're all driven to have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:25 PM
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If a person is in a group project but does none of the work, is he contributing? Is he a net benefit for the goals that the group wants to achieve? He's clearly in the group, but is he helping said group? Now do the same thing but for society. Breathing in society is not the same thing as contributing. You already know this but you're trying to sidestep it to make some weird point that clearly isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:06 PM
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You are doing a terrible job. Here you are on reddit, paying for a phone, internet, lights, taxes, gas, groceries. Even breathing in society contributes. The real Stockholm syndrome is pretending you are “letting it burn” by “not participating”. Unless you are in the woods alone no technology. You are participating. Even the homeless participate as long as they vagrant cities. ??? I never said I didn't live in society. I said I don't contribute to it. What is this obsession people have where the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:05 PM
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Is that so?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:02 PM
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Or I can say fuck the system and let it burn. I'm not trying in a system that dgaf about me. What is this Stockholm syndrome nonsense. I quite enjoy living like I do thank you very much because I'm not contributing to a cannabalistic uncaring system. And short of the system actually starting to, you know, give a fuck about people instead of profits for once, there isn't a single thing you can say that will change my attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:03 PM
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Men should do better for THEMSELVES. Im not married but im still striving to make over 100k a year because life is better with money than without. I strive to be a better person because life is better when you put out positivity and try to leave places a little better than when you found them. ...what's the point? Why try when there is basically nothing in it for you? Most of us know we will never own a home. We know we will never retire. And now we know we will basically never have a meaningful…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:25 PM
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So, anyone? How long do you think humans have been on this earth? Not everyone ate grains bruh. Humans have been around for millions of years. Agriculture is only 10,000 years old 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:51 AM
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The best era ever is one where we are on the brink of planetary collapse?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:49 AM
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Once you got past child rearing they tended to live quite long lives and were way healthier while doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:27 AM
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I mean I'd question the technology being great part too. Doesn't seem like iPhones were worth the third world exploitation and planetary destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:26 AM
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i was just about to type out this example! before hiphop video vixens and later the BBL epidemic lol, dudes would say that a big ass looked gross! now they’re all shouting “gyat! 🍑” at these big booty models. manic pixie dream girls or “goth gfs” became a popular thing because of (social)media too. before, dudes would clown me for being goth in early high school. White people maybe, black guys have always found curvy women attractive and have historically gotten a lot of flack for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:24 PM
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There is something wrong with an easier life if it was only acquired through the destruction of the biosphere - you know the thing we depend on to live. We don't have 100 years left at this rate and anyone who believes otherwise has been sleepwalking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:06 PM
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1) This is not an incel exclusive phenomenon 2) Of course governments are going to be threatened by angry men, large swaths of angry men are historically the group that challenges and topples authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:56 AM
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Am I in the purplepill subreddit or the collapse subreddit...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:50 AM
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Right and we are allowed to discuss how stupid and trashy it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:52 PM
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...you never really could. It's just bluepillers attempts to justify their worldview. And then when these patterns show to be true in the real world all of a sudden it's not a big deal or of course people were always like that 🙄 It's honestly just best to ignore the "iTs tHe iNteRnEt iTs nOt rEaL LIfE" types.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:21 PM
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This is the correct response. Women's pickiness increases with more options. Women naturally have more options than men which is why they're seen as the picky gender. Add social media to the equation where she's getting attention from men across the globe and it increase tenfold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:16 PM
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Yikes... Seriously. The racism could not be more apparent. This is such a disgusting take
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:09 AM
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50k is 20k more than the average median income... I will reiterate what I said with emphasis. Does it not strike you as problematic when the only thing you can expect to live in is a shack on a median income?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:53 AM
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Does this not strike you as problematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:37 AM
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Exactly. This is something I've long since noticed about hypergamy. And it's not like they're selecting for morally virtuous angelic like men either. If they were society would practically be paradise right now but a man like that is "boring" to them. They select for dominant sociopathic assholes with dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:50 AM
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Are rich men really the "cream de la creme" of men? Seems like the men who are successful in this society tend to be sociopathic assholes but according to you that's what makes them successful and they should be sexually rewarded for it (hint they already are).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:47 AM
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If they haven’t been able to git gud in 40 years.. doesn’t that speak of weak stock? Obviously there are men who are able to attract mates and don’t struggle with getting laid. Are they not just the stronger stock? Don’t stop at the 50s keep going.. take us back to the Vikings. This just sounds like plain eugenics. Holy shit lol. The scary part is that you think this is actually a good thing for society. The strong dominating the weak is how things should be and should match our mating preferenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:34 AM
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Nah. You only say that because you have no idea what it was like to be a woman or black in the US. You just wish you could have a bangmaid back. I don't? According to who, you? You should stop making assumptions about people's gender and or race. For the vast majority of people world wide life is far better now. Poverty has improved (although we had a set back due to the pandemic) The setback has nothing to do with the pandemic and is permanent. It has to do with failing crops (which is due to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:34 PM
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Nah they don't. The binary you make up in your head where every single woman is submissive and every man is a struggling dominant wannabe simply does not exist in the real world. In the real world there is a mix between the genders and society heavily pushes the genders into one role or the other via socialization. Socialization is so strong that it can make one color seem feminine instead of masculine and make one gender seem like less of a person just for putting paint on their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:32 AM
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Why would they not sexually desire them? They can basically use them as their plaything. Seems like women from certain parts of the world where they aren't expected to be submissive doormats tend to be far more sexually aggressive than their domesticated counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:28 AM
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Tons of things are better now. Better than when? When those things were being restricted by the very same society? Society is better compared to when they chose to enslave other people based off their skin color? I literally cannot think of one thing this society is better in socially absent of civilization as a whole. But I can name dozens of things that are much, much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:44 AM
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I do have community. I have beautiful marrige and wonderful friends. I also have freedom to pursue my passions, my goals aren’t less important just because I’m a woman. Okay but I'm not talking about you though. I'm talking about broader society and the breakdown of the social sphere and third spaces. Families are also a lot less connected than they used to be mostly because of distance, economic reasons, and people being stressed from work. How society works isn't all about what you perceive in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:35 AM
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The top 20% of men. Come on you already know this, it's called situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:22 AM
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I don't, I think it's propaganda forced down our throats. I could deal with not having the latest iPhone if it meant I had genuine community which is all but lost these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:13 AM
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And a lot worse for many of the now billions of people, as well as the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:49 PM
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Because the level of energy is much higher. That doesn't mean that society is much better, just that we have a better material standard of living. I can point to a myriad of ways in which society is much worse and hasn't progressed at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:12 PM
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Submissive women just seem like doormats to me. Definitely wouldn't be interested in building any sort of relationship whatsoever with someone who can't stand their ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:59 PM
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I don't think society is "so much nicer" than it use to be. In a lot of ways, it's far worse. The only thing better is the material progress (and fleeting social progress that comes with it) but even that didn't come without major cost when looking at the grand scheme of things. And clearly none of it can be sustained as society is backsliding more and more everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:45 PM
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and most women dont wear that much. Yes they do lol and like 99% of them wear it. Like this is not even up for debate it's the standard and most spend hours doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:20 AM
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Well if she's actually from the Amazon she might not mind as much. I could see those type of women liking to dominate and into Snu Snu
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:17 AM
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People do care about body count in the real world. I would not want to be with a woman that has slept with hundreds of dudes and I'd bet many other men would feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:10 PM
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Idk how do systems generally change? And was our system always like this or did it take a series of (quite recent) social changes to get us here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:05 PM
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In short, change the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:50 PM
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Actually I want them to do something about it. And yes, believe it or not, there are things men can do. We didn't always live in times like these nor will we moving forward so men have the agency to change this and they ought to make good use of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 06:20 PM
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...okay? How does that change the meaning of my comment in anyway shape or form. What is this take LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:54 AM
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Uh, where you live was one of the question prompts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 10:38 PM
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Actually I've heard men say women should lower their standards. Not date someone because they live in a rich neighborhood or are a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:17 PM
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why shouldn't they? this is "choosing better" Aka known as hypergamy. It's a well established fact that women are hypergamous you don't have to spell it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 06:07 PM
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That's a lot of women who aren't normal then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:27 PM
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But women get picked anyway so I'm not understanding how this helps
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:04 PM
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They don't and they'll tell you as much. They'll say boldfaced that they'd rather such men go extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:57 AM
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The truth certainly is depressing, although it's only unproductive if you choose to shield yourself from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:00 AM
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Least unhinged response.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:02 AM
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Those “many” men choosing to be losers don’t define men as a whole - the majority of which have not given up. Did anyone ever say the majority had given up? Do you know what a trend is? That trend, btw, shows no sign of stopping. How much are the men giving up even contributing to society anyway for society to even care? Nothing because they've given up lol. They don't care about society because society doesn't give a f about them. It’s easier for a fat person to complain about exercise being ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:47 PM
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They don't have to threaten it. The rise of fascism and the reversal of women's rights are happening right in front of our eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:57 PM
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Many men have given up. That's why more people are "dropping out of society." I love people like you who chime in that "no guys really aren't lonely that's just weird reddit nerds" or "no guys are doing just fine the only one complaining are pepetually online virgins" when the statistics clearly state otherwise. More men are lonely before and more men are giving up on society - that is a fact. Women do approach extremely attractive guys, but my comment was more in the ballpark on women approachi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:54 PM
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Most single guys prefer to stay home with video games and porn, I guess. Men in relationships aren't much better based on observations of friends' partners and past relationships. Maybe, if men would get off their asses and out into the community, dating would be easier and the loneliness epidemic would be over (or at least not as bad). Men have given up so there is a practically zero change of this happening. When men repeatedly get rejected and society constantly gives them the middle finger t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:42 PM
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"Excuse me? Is this supposed to be an interview or something?" Needless to say I would be offended and there likely wouldn't be a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:31 AM
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Society does gaslight men a bit in this regard. They say that intelligence is attractive in hopes that you remain in school for a long time and can thus contribute more to the state later on in life. So yes guys do tend to overestimate how much their educational accolades are going to grant them in the way of genuine female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:36 AM
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Because there is no women get spit on bukkaked degraded etc. I fail to see how this type of porn is degrading towards women. You still haven't explain that one to me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:33 AM
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Are you saying there is no porn between consenting couples? No porn that is made by the woman (like OF or self-run PornHub accounts)? Do you think the only porn out there is mainstream porn produced by companies lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:32 AM
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How is it degrading for men? but at the end of the day its the woman getting fucked, bukkaked, spit on, facial violence etc.. Then watch porn where this doesn't happen. Like gay porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:44 AM
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Intrinsically degrading. If it was just loving couples having regular sex it wouldn't be as degrading but the vast majority of it is nothing like that part of the theatrics baked in is a theater of misogyny because at the end of the day that turns people on men and women. Your two statements contradict each other you know. How can it be intrinsically degrading if it was made another way it would no longer be degrading? That's the opposite of intrinsically degrading, it means you have a problem w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:42 AM
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I don't think intelligent guys act intelligent to attract a mate lol. Most of the nerdy guys I've seen already know they aren't attracting any partners. They do it because it's fun and they want to compete with their other equally nerdy friends. In fact, part of the reason they lament females entering into their space so much is because they like the exclusiveness/safeness of it all and felt like the girls were part of the club bullying them into that space in the first place. I think it's weird…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:29 AM
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What? You aren't even making sense. Is porn intrinsically degrading or is it degrading because it's used to degrade women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:47 PM
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Okay sure I can grant you that. But there is also no society that is more ecologically destructive, so the issue fixes itself. And to the extent that it is accepting it isn't by much since you are still expected to perform strict gender roles and aren't seen as a real man unless you are straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:06 PM
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This is one of the more level headed responses
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:54 PM
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Or by culture. Regardless I could not care less because that's not what I'm talking about. You didn't answer the question. What you did was take the time out your day to talk about how much you hate gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:28 PM
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No, it isn't. All you said was you have a physical revulsion to gay men and that they are lesser than and not authentic compared to straight men. You never answered why. The only thing you said to that is that it's a weird double standard you know you have but shrugs whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:20 PM
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But what are those cultures? I’ve heard of them too, but what are their names? The Lakota, Mohave, and Cheyenne just to name a few. I'm sure there are many other non native American cultures with a similar concept. And no we can't move them. What we can do is learn to be more tolerate towards LGTBQ folk who are found all over humanity and indeed, all over the animal kingdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:07 PM
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No one cares how you feel about homosexual men nor did you address the point made in the post in any capacity whatsoever. All you did was go on some weird tirade about how you dislike gay men and straight guys are more authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:01 PM
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There’s no where more accepting of non-traditional gender and sexuality than the west. It’s not even close. You sure about that? Even cultures that believe in two spirited people? On the face of it those cultures seem like the most gender fluid by far
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:43 PM
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I noticed this with porn. Surely if porn is degrading then it's degrading towards everyone and not just women. Is there nothing wrong with gay porn? Are we going to talk about how gay porn is somehow degrading women now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:31 PM
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Oh we certainly degrade men who subscribe to onlyfans, heck we do it so much my school once has a PSA about the word simp and how it shouldn’t be used. We degrade them because we thing they are degrading themselves, btw. Okay but he didn't say subscribe to onlyfans, he said did onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:30 PM
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I'm compassionate to all beings, including animals. But the yikes was in response to refusing to date someone because they are against the way we treat animals. Say what you will about eating meat but factory farming truly is terrible. From the other side of the aisle I would date someone who eats meat, although commitment is a different topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:07 AM
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Veganism and vegetarianism. We can't be together. I'm sorry Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:33 AM
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Everyone is always on their phone though. To me this just signals not prioritizing the person and not caring whether they get a response one way or the other, not that you're just sooo busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:28 PM
1

Do you think obsession with money doesn't relate to sexual politics lol? Do you also believe that obsession with drugs doesn't relate to sexual politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:39 PM
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It's not too scary. Are you confused about what the issue is with a culture that worships money? Are you asking me to expound on why that might be a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:35 PM
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If you can't see the problem with a general statement expressing an issue with a culture that worships money, then there isn't much more I can explain to you. Seems like sealioning if I'm being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:13 PM
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Obsession with money being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:29 PM
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I am not anti sex revolution. I am anti many of the ideals held in western civilization as being the correct way the live or the peak of human existence. And yes, these ideals very much spill over into sexual relationships. You don't have to be an incel to see that there is currently something wrong with western culture and thus its sexual politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:46 PM
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Yes... This was in reference to the women who aren't dating because she feels there aren't any good men and she doesn't want to "settle."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:45 PM
1

Ah yes, Tedpilled. One of the best pills there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:27 PM
0

There's one thing to want to be attractive and "successful." It's another to be insecure enough that you feel you have to artificially enhance those things to appear more desirable to others. Like renting a car to show off how successful you are. It's fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:17 PM
1

What
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:16 PM
1

Why are we teaching people to judge people based off a superficial standard of how they look and not who they are as a person - their character? That's the real question we should be asking, not conditioning an even larger percentage of the population to appear fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:02 PM
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I mean it's true. But then again I'm not attracted to 80% of women. And the low percentage that I am has nothing to do with looks. The chief reasons for females inflated standards, why they believe they are entitled to far more than they actually deserve, is because they use so much fake up to artificially enhance their looks. Take that away and they'd come back to reality in terms of what's reasonable for them to attract where the rest of men live.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:00 PM
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Social status based off the way one looks - off vanity. It's not too different from aiming to achieve social status based on money or having a better car than someone else. It is superficial and materialistic and therefore flawed approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:45 PM
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This is just sad. Another reason for me to hate this society piled on top of the many already existing reasons. They literally force you to be artificial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:40 PM
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You can complain about the nature of the game
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:09 PM
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And so the only thing you know how to do is blindly follow those rules right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:31 AM
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To have any chances to date a man has to approach women. This is another problem. It didn't register in your brain as one but it undoubtedly is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:58 AM
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Most guys aren't struggling like men on here claim. They are though, they genuinely are. That's why many guys are dropping our society in record numbers as compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:53 AM
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If you were asking me I'd say ecological limits. That is to say, wanting to repeatedly go shopping and consuming the latest fast fashion brand is not to be encouraged. But that's beyond the scope of this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:46 AM
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I mean the answer all things being equal is a supermodel. But there is a deeper more important question at play here. If I could choose a woman who focused exclusively on her looks disregarding everything else or a woman who chose to focus on her personality/virtues and did not care much about what others thought of how she looked, who would I choose? I'd choose the second woman every single day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:18 AM
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Sounds like a flawed society. Narcissism is not a trait to be encouraged. We are not supposed to stare at our own reflections for hours and hours everyday. But here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 12:00 AM
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Consumer mentality doesn't end after high school. In fact, it's baked into society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:58 AM
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Women's loneliness is a choice. There is no epidemic when it comes it women, this is a male only issue. A woman can get attention and a relationship if she so pleases, a man is forced to be single and alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:51 PM
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They already don't lol. This is why female standards are through the roof and there is a loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:03 AM
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A woman can literally go outside say "I want a boyfriend" and depending on where she is within 5 minutes will be in a relationship. So yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:47 AM
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I mean sort of, yes. Women have a choice in whom they want to date - men don't. Thus it is a much bigger flag if a women with all of the options she's had throughout her life still manages to find herself single over 30. It's understandable for men, especially in the context of modern dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:44 AM
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Plus gift giving is my love language. That just sounds like being materialistic but with flowery language.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:25 AM
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It's certainly not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:22 AM
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That's not really surprising considering how conservative Arab countries are and women being treated as second class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:11 AM
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All of the benefits of feminism. 0 of the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 12:10 AM
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Just pull yourself up by the bootstraps m8.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:32 PM
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Does "work for all women" only mean getting with Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 08:21 PM
3

Have you heard of a strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:06 PM
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Stories that have pretty average guys that get some trait/achieve something to make them the hero are popular amongst everyone, not just men. They are the main stories our societies tells to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:50 AM
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I... hear women say that all the time lol. But replace nice with "sweet and caring."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:15 AM
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Notice that a lot of these stories are hush hush or not really known. I'm especially thinking of the first one when I say that. In our culture it's implied that you're not supposed to like that stuff, like a woman is supposed to mention reading it and then giggle with her hands covering her mouth. Thinking about that you start to get to the root of the problem. Society tells you women like certain qualities like being nice because they want to present them as pure and good intentioned, but reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:05 AM
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Yes people are expected to take care of themselves. But what that constitutes is different from society to society. No other animal on the planet is expected to work for money. It's only humans that do it and it hardly qualifies a person as "being an adult." Plenty of people that make their own money and are extremely childish. There are also plenty of cultures where people don't exchange money and they have adults. Adult is not a cultural term - it is based on emotional and developmental experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:54 AM
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Expected... by who? Who makes the rules for what constitutes as "being an adult?" You aren't questioning deep enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:31 AM
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Everyone should strive to be financially stable and fit and emotionally secure. That is kind of being an adult, no? No, that's just what it means to be an adult in late capitalist society. By that definition most people aren't adulting properly because we live in a broken system. It's by design.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 07:23 AM
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The problem is the standards are inflated to begin with. That's where the issue with women lie with. If they were bought back down to reality on planet earth where the rest of us live with dating standards, there would be far less problems. But they believe they can get, no, they're entitled to Chad. And so long as they choose live in that fantasy then dating challenges cannot be said to be an issue for women. It is a situation they actively create for themselves through their own delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:20 AM
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Male only issue. If women wanted partners then they should lower their standards and stop chasing chads. I have zero sympathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:56 PM
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Women don't struggle with finding partners. That is a male only issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:32 PM
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Why does only a man have to "earn his place." Why are women seen as enough as they are but when it comes to men zero sympathy is given and if you aren't strong and outcompeting other men (which by necessity creates losers), you may as well die? Where is the empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:41 PM
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Have you tried pulling yourself up by the bootstraps?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:32 PM
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And then you said "date and fuck like a normal person. That's how you find out how this shit works." Not only is your reading comprehension terrible, so to is your command of the English language. I mean what are they going to do? Overthrow the system lol? Like what can they do. If a group of poor people complain about inequality, are you going to sit there and tell them "all you guys do is complain. What are u guys doing to actually fix this morons" or are you going to sympathize with their mes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:24 PM
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You said "you aren't even 20 yet. Date like a normal person and that's how you find out how this works." Seemed very much like it was directed at me. And to your second point, actually there are people who care that the system isn't working. Some people actually want society to work for people and fix the issues we have. Not everyone is as apathetic about the state of things as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 09:12 PM
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When did I ever, at any point, state my own age? Reading comprehension isn't your strong suite, huh? I have no complaints whether or not women want me. I have complaints about the state of dating at the moment and how terrible society is which are valid complaints because frankly, by every metric, it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:57 PM
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“If only we could go back to the days of arranged marriages, famines and diseases! The good old days of genocide and war! At least they didn’t have to ASK a person out!” As if the world isn't experiencing famine, disease, and genocide (hello Palestinians) now. As if the country you're typing this from wasn't founded on said genocide. I don't want to go back to arranged marriages. But the idea that some young 17/18 year old woman should be deciding their partners based off "feefees" is equally ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:38 PM
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Not really. In no small number of societies your partner used to be chosen for you. At the very least, your parents/community had a heavy hand in influencing who you chose to date. Being able to date whoever you want with no responsibilities or obligations to anyone else is a very modern idea. We can see the effects it has had on society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:40 PM
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I'm a guy with a high libido, I don't want to fuck 100 different women every night or super models. My ideal partner is another woman who also has a high libido and we are extremely attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:37 PM
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I think you just harbor traditional values which makes you think it always should be the man that pays, despite the fact that women are beginning to outearn men. What that signals to me is that you don't want equality in a relationship (or in general), you want the man to run everything. Which is probably why you brought up parents who are the head of the household growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:01 PM
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I mean... yes bro... ...did you think western society was caring for animals and healing the planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:49 AM
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Spot on. This could have been written by me. I almost shed a tear. Industrial society is the problem. A society based on consumerism, greed, selfishness, and narcissism is the problem. Far too many people simply do not grasp this because it's the water in which they swim. I do see this changing over the next few years though - slowly but it's sure to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:27 AM
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Look at it this way, there is a reason why men always have to bring a female ‘partner’ to adult parties, but women don’t need to bring anyone. I bet you aren’t gonna complain about that part because IF you were to go to such a party YOU want a ton of women around right? (Unless you are gay) Uhh... Okay. You definitely went on a bit of a tangent here but whatever. I'm assuming the same applies to POC, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 11:16 AM
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Maybe they don't want to. Capability aside, not every guy wants to develop dark triad traits just to be successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:54 PM
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For every man that don't ever get a partner, there is an extra woman that has to compete for fewer and fewer men or share the guy and his resources with other women. Where do you think Chads harem comes from?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:50 AM
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Because women don't struggle with dating. An autistic woman can still hop on Tinder and get hundreds of matches. This is exclusively a male issue and always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:47 AM
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No you're just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:43 AM
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What if I'm a shut in because I am autistic? Jokes aside I am neurodivergent, that much has been evident since I was a child. Part of the reason I'm a shut in is because I do not fit in this culture. Modernity is mostly a lie and rather than close my eyes to it and pretend (something that is becoming increasingly harder as the world around us collapses further), I shut myself in and, as you say, go on Reddit and play video games - as a sort of coping mechanism. I'm aware that I'll find very litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:20 AM
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Of course it's not. That's why it's being clawed back on many fronts. You cannot demand to be treated equal and then not actually want to follow through on it with things like 50/50 pay or dating someone at your economic level or lower. Concessions have to be made. With freedom comes additional responsibilities but they don't want to hear the responsibility part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:29 PM
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I mean there are literally people in this thread saying that if you are a virgin male beyond a certain point, you are not only disgusting but a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:36 PM
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You want to know what's sad? This is how women truly feel. This is how they actually think about men and that's why they go to great lengths to shame sexless men calling them virgins/incels etc. Because if you haven't had sex with multiple women, you are a failure - not just at the sexual game, but as a person. She's laying it right here in the open for everyone see and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Basically telling you if are a virgin male then you should just go die.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:28 PM
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Nobody you want anything to do with is complaining about these things out loud. The outloud part definitely makes the case for this. There's a good chance I wouldn't want to date someone with a bit of weight on her or a high n count I felt uncomfortable with, but I wouldn't say that directly to her face.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 12:57 PM
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I mean we use to draw pictures of naked girls on cave walls. Porn has nothing to do with it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:50 AM
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Probably, my dad wasn't a betabux. That being said, I can see where for a lot of people that definitely isn't the case. Modern dating is brutal without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:23 PM
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A group can't be oppressed by their own group. Yes they can lol. That's like saying black men can't be oppressed by other men because they're both men which we all know to be bullshit. The reality is the most privileged men oppress the least privileged men. We've seen it all throughout history hell, you've probably seen it in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:29 AM
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Oh so I should instead ask her to go take a test before I give the go? "Hey what did your recent STD test say I need to know if you're eligible. Thanks!" Are you actually listening to yourself right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:54 PM
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It isn't? STD's are suddenly a thing of the past now right? In fact as far as I'm aware, I haven't every right to be concerned about someone with a high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:35 AM
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And if you aren't watching porn with men in it... or even real people? Then what
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:54 AM
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Ad hominems aren't "stating your beliefs." And your beliefs are objectively wrong. Like wth are u even talking about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:37 PM
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Do you think being an adult means having zeros in your bank account? The more zeros the more adult you are? I know plenty of adults who act like petulant children. Kinda like you're doing right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:52 PM
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It really doesn't. I know a lot of people who "make dey own money and have they own place" who act like insufferable children. Adult is a maturity level not how many fake digits you have in your bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:39 PM
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The times you live in doesn't define what it means to be an adult no more than it does what it means to be a child or a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:59 PM
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Is the definition of productive to make some other person more rich? Why is our worth tied to our "productivity?" Again, seems to be a very modern definition in a money centric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:02 PM
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What's cringe is thinking making money is the only requirement for being an adult. Genuine Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:59 AM
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It was a general statement, not aimed at you specifically. What in the world would I even tell you to stop lying about... Not too bright are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:12 AM
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Is that really what it means to be an adult? Like do you sit down and say to yourself "an adult is a person that has a job!" Seems like a very modern definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:50 PM
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Research what? And was anyone talking about you specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:59 PM
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But it becoming mainstream is new at least for our time, which is what the entire post was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:56 PM
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That's cute. Just stop lying and trying to gaslight men that it's not the main factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 12:45 PM
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Shows just how far society will go when it comes to victimhood and women. Literally treated with kid gloves. Like imagine comparing a girl showing her ass on camera to a legit soldier who's been on the battlefield and has war trauma. Just yikes bro
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:42 AM
1

I wasn't just referring to a strong personality. But the other commenter was confused so I just left it as that. Chances are any random women with a strong personality is not what I'm looking for. In fact, it's more likely it'd be off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:06 PM
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Strong personalities - in an almost intimidating way. You don't really need to understand. The point is that I really couldn't care less what other people want because I know what I want in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:55 PM
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This sounds just like a debate between Democrat and Republican. News flash: There are more opinions than this basic spectrum which is really just two sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:43 PM
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No. I know the image of women like this, guys are not lining up to acquire them. Some unlucky dude might for her beauty but he would promptly rejected. Think of an Ice Queen. This isn't exactly what I'm referring to, but that should give you an idea of why the average man would stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:16 PM
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They don't really. I suspect I'd have very little competition in what I'm pursuing. Reason being is that the women I'm interested in, although beautiful, tend to intimidate other men. But those intimidating features are what I find attractive. She gets something out of the deal too. Because I am looking for something that is in my experience quite rare, it means that I'm really only looking for her (or rare women like her). Which means that I am committed to her as I wouldn't entertain any other…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:07 PM
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Women who have options don’t date losers and most women have options, it has nothing to do with chad. What happens when the only options become Chad and losers? This is less of a hypothetical than you might think. Imagine inequality getting worse and the system only working for a select few (kind of like our present day system now). I suspect they'll either choose to remain single altogether or to the extent that they are willing to enter in a relationship, be increasingly open to sharing high v…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:01 PM
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I mean yeah. Who wants someone that nobody wants? I mean I certainly wouldn't mind having someone that nobody wants, assuming they were what I actually wanted. Why would I care what other people think?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:50 PM
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Them: So be it then. And from there it's not hard to see where inequality in the dating world comes from. It's also not hard to see why monogamy has been culturally enforced for thousands of years since this same inequality bred by natural inclinations is socially destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:36 PM
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Yes, women would prefer to date a Chad who is shared by 9 other woman than to date a loser guy. This has been shown to be true repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:32 PM
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What I'm saying is that at the individual level it was the dominant view that casual sex was sinful until the sexual revolution happened. People who still hold that view or something similar tend to be more religiously bent, not sexless virgins mad cuz they can't get sum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 01:26 PM
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...No. This was a strong view in all societies, including western ones, until the church was taken out of the equation and replaced with rampant consumerism and hedonism. If anything this screams large religious and moral sentiments and not "a guy who can't get laid lel"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:17 PM
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I believe this is what women mean when they say to work on yourself. By becoming an extremely high status male, you can attract any woman you desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:36 AM
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I guess the men should just mindread her and know to stay away. They should know their place as an unattractive loser and stay away from ever approaching. Or you want to know what I really think? Why don't women start to approach others, for once in their lives? So many grievances can be solved if they'd stop waiting for life to happen around them all the time, for the man to always do something, and instead take charge and seek out what they actually want instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:06 PM
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It does change. I don't think it's quite at 1% yet but it's definitely shrunk since the OKCupid study was done. It's proportional with our economic reality, which is increasingly only beneficial to a shrinking few. Basically society isn't working, for men most of all, and the percentage that it is working for gets smaller and smaller. And women want winners
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:58 PM
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I get what you’re saying. But the material things are still the outer reflection of a successful, high status member of our particular society where you trade money for labor. Which is a social component. What man? Like where are we disagreeing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:41 PM
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Uh no, I'm trying to explain how attraction has a very real social component. Women are attracted to things in modern society because that is what society has gaslighted people into believing that which is worthwhile. This changes quite heavily depending on the society one is in. In a materialist society such as ours, capital and resource accumulation is seen as being the most important. This is why rich people are at the top and sought out - even seen as "virtuous" in the cultural apparatus. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:18 PM
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It's a good thing then it's usually not the men who weren't picked doing the judging. In fact, the vast majority of it comes from other women or men who are already in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:01 PM
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But that still admits it's dependent on the social context of society because the individual materials change. Also the modern day rich human is not the same as "a successful hunter gatherer" 😂 You can be a fat slob born with a silver spoon in your mouth and have resources, it takes actual skill and awareness to successfully hunt and gather. Which is why women have a biological preference for men with "hunter eyes."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:30 PM
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How does that make any sense? It makes plenty of sense. I am one of those people who couldn't care less if this society burns down and the number of people with a similar sentiment is increasing. I'd go further to say it'd be an objectively good thing from multiple perspectives. Society isn't working. That is a statement that isn't controversial to say now when just 10 years ago you'd be given looks for claiming it. Will what comes after be better? Only time will tell, but it can't be much worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:50 PM
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Doubt. Women's preferences are heavily dependent on their social context. They do not come out the womb wanting men with big houses and a nice car. That's our culture signaling to them what makes a man "high value."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 12:39 PM
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And people do shame you for not drinking alcohol. "Wow you must be a really BORING person." This culture worships a hedonistic lifestyle. Of course abstaining, whether voluntary or otherwise, is frowned upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:44 AM
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Do you think if a man never gets to experience sexual variety he will ever be happy? Yes and plenty have. Why would you need sexual variety if you've found a partner you're perfectly compatible with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:41 AM
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Like, no women are buying into this. Just more young men who would rather be angry than improve themselves. Who would rather be decent people, rather than people trying to win a game. Yes the reason 2/3 of young men are single is because they're angry virgins who refuse to improve themselves. There are absolutely no social factors at play - it's all the individuals fault and if they just worked more on their personalities and showered they'd all get girlfriends. Over the past 2 decades all men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:32 AM
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Nah, they just weren't going to get any action regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:25 PM
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Some of my homegirls are encountering some really doofy dudes acting hyper masculine. I can tell you from anecdotal experience that none of these dudes are getting any play. They weren't going to get any play regardless 🤷‍♂️ Female standards are through the goddamn roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:30 PM
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Capitalism is one of the greatest forces of good that has lifted BILLIONS out of poverty. It's also created a huge underclass of billions to serve the interest of the rich. Not to mention it's killing the entire planet. Capitalism is excellent at doing that. This system should have been destroyed yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 06:42 AM
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I'm saying that lust is a sin. What you should desire is love, not sexual lust and validation from people who care nothing about you. It's pretty sad that I have to spell this out but that shows just how far gone this culture is in terms of values.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:21 PM
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Idk bro whatever I might "crave" what I want is love, not lust. Like seriously, desire and lust? Come on man theres better things in this world to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:16 PM
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She got his validation, desire and lust. Is that... what it's all about? Validation, desire, and lust?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:58 AM
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But the men weren't going to get these girls anyway. So it's not actually a threat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:29 AM
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...What in the world are you talking about???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:54 PM
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I mean I've known I've had women interested in me. And I also know that had at least 1 asked me out I probably would have said yes at the time. It for certain would have been appreciated. But they never did and probably expected me to say something first. And as I've stated that extreme passiveness always expecting someone else to do something first is an extreme turn off, at least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:21 AM
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There's some truth to what she's saying though. I'd love to see the makeup use in societies that are more egalitarian but I know for a fact it's not 99%. That's a result of the system and the only way to change that is to get rid of it which is a tall order for anyone, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:38 AM
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I personally think AI partners/artificial sources of intimacy will be assimilated into mainstream society faster than people may expect, based on trends of extreme individualism and hedonism. I'm personally a fan. I'm not a fan precisely for the reasons you mentioned. These are not values any well adjusted society should have. It's just the values ours promotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:04 AM
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I mean I'd love to get approached by a women. Probably wouldn't change much if I'm being honest with you but the effort would be much appreciated. I genuinely don't mind women taking a more active role in dating - I actively dislikely the more passive subservient role always waiting for someone else to take initiative that so many default to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:36 AM
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Women are going to have to start doing the approaching. In this culture taking anything as a sign of interest and acting on it when she's actually not interested gets men heavily shamed at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:27 AM
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Nah nothing sexist about it, It's just reality. Men take rejection better because they're much more accustomed it. They get rejected left and right. Women rarely if ever do the approaching. So if the one time they do it they get shot down it stings bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:24 AM
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Why would it be talked about when the modern women can simply walk outside say "I want a boyfriend" and have one within 5 minutes? Of course AI Girlfriends are going to be talked about way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:09 AM
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This... doesn't change anything. Why would the 4/10 not have sex with the 10/10 dude if all men are blinded by sex anyway? Why would she ever choose the uggo?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:40 AM
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This girl is attractive and certainly above average, however, Hard to tell through all the fake up honestly. It's that and social media that is overinflating women's egos past unsustainable levels. Remove both and watch how, as if by magic, dating becomes much more genuine and real compared to today. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:34 AM
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For what it's worth I'm 36 and would never dare approach a woman in public. Not worth the potential negative aspects. Either women start approaching guys, or those stats are gonna get worse... Well we know for certain that's never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:48 AM
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This is accurate. They aren't looking at men and saying to ignore it and keep moving forward etc. They aren't even looking. They just keep it moving in their own lives without giving the slightest care in the world about the deteriorating condition of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 07:35 AM
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Like most men can’t fathom how incredibly easy it is to attract men as a woman, the idea were jealous is because they’re projecting that their almost desperate need for validation & sex, must be something we share. I think most men do recognize this. It's said here. Constantly. Everyday. In basically every thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:23 PM
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Ehh this isn't a retort since the OP already mentioned gender differences. You have to respond to the fact that women get the ick when thinking about dating short guys. Isn't there something wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:17 PM
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Aren't those same western societies on the verge of killing the planet? Some values those are if they lead to the destruction of all life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:20 PM
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It isn't really an attempt to kill oneself. It's a cry for help - another grab for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:13 PM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:55 PM
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Uhh... what? Quality pair bonding is literally how you raise successful and emotional stable children. What's superficial is this hookup culture where looks and other materialistic factors take importance over a good & compatible partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:56 AM
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That study is from 2019 though. I'm pretty sure it's far worse now post-pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:13 PM
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Now do the same statistic but with men under the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:33 PM
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Why don't you actually take time to try and understand where they are coming from? That would go a long way in helping with "the whole empathy thing."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:54 AM
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What if I can already get sex and still don't want to change? What if I'm actively still choosing not to have it? Did you even understand a word of what I've written? Like what is this take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:31 PM
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Again, the just world fallacy. Apparently it never seems to occur to you that a person who isn't getting sex might not be interested in the women who are interested in him or is not looking to have secks for religious/moral reasons. Neither of these are reasons to change for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:54 AM
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And if unchanged me isn't a loser? Then what? This sounds an awful lot like the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:29 AM
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Just like women would rather die single than "settle", I'd rather die with my self-respect intact. Not going to dance like a monkey for female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:32 PM
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This is such a damn strawman. Jesus Christ where do you people even get this stuff from? Yikes man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:46 PM
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??? If you think human connection and equality is negotiable then you aren't owed rights that have to be given on a silver platter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:30 PM
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Nope I'm suggesting they get off cloud 9 and lower their insanely high standards. Women aren't heads and shoulders above the average man, no matter how much the media tries to gaslight you into believing otherwise. They only feel so entitled to a high status man because modern society has them all believing they're Disney princesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:26 PM
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I was going to change it to men but it is people. However those people are predominantly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:25 PM
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Individually yes in the short term. However there are social consequences to this sort of behavior which is detrimental to women in the longterm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:26 PM
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What do people usually do when they feel like society isn't giving them their fair shake?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:24 PM
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And a decent amount of the time, Chad is rich. See the fact that a disproportionate amount of CEO's are over 6ft tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:32 AM
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Does that second option sound sustainable to you though? And a lot of women aren't choosing to just be alone. Some are and are truly alone, but the rest are all sharing and having sex with the same men. It isn't true loneliness in the way that men experience it. Let me ask you no truly: does that second scenario sound like it'll last? Like it is part in parcel of a healthy society? Do you really believe that if women all choose to have a no string attached relationship to the same 5% of guys, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:03 AM
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I think it was what lead to stability. The push for change has had enormous consequences for the dating landscape and seem to be part in parcel with the breakdown of society. It will likely cause a revert back to the way things were in the old days with women having less rights before things fall apart completely. And no, I truly believe women are overvaluing themselves. The average women is not better than the average man - they're just that, average. Whats made women believe that they are abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:27 AM
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That "settling" is what lead to social stability. If all women choose to be with Chad while completely neglecting the average male it never ends well. It is an unsustainable dynamic and men aren't going to sit around moping while society gets more and more unequal. This is literally the rich is getting richer scenario except replace rich with Chad and his increasing harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:06 AM
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There is certainly a bit of a narcissist epidemic around women. It's not that they're worse, it's that they overevaluate themselves. If they were brought back to earth where everyone else lives, there would be a lot more positive exchanges going on. It's a combination of social media, OLD, and makeup artificially enhancing ones appearance (which artificially inflates a women's sense of self worth). Women settled like crazy in the previous generations. For practically all of human history then. D…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:05 AM
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The older generations must have done a lot of settling then, and been objectively worse off for it. This isn't about "settling." 80% of men aren't suddenly terrible in the modern era while all women have remained engraced angels. This is about the inflation of female self worth and refusing to date below what she believes she "deserves." It's unsustainable and it will inevitably come crashing down because we can't all have chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 11:30 PM
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That assumes you care about casual sex and hookup culture. The men likely to engage in this behavior won't care much about high n count because they likely have a high n count themselves. The closer you get to looking for a serious relationship, the more that n count starts to matter. And even without pair bonding in the picture, while it may not be a serious metric it is still a metric people will take note of and it's one of the things that can be used to condemn modern free for all hookup cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:32 PM
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It tells you enough to be wary. It's just simply not the case that people only care about body count because of marriage/children. There are strong biological reasons going back milennia
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:00 PM
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This isn't the gotcha you think it is. Given the narcissism and extreme hypergamy going on in today's women, it's a sign of mental illness more than anything else to choose a cat as a life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:44 PM
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Actually no. Diseases also plays a role in caring about body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:40 PM
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This actually has some truth to it, unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:43 AM
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I mean there are still 8 billion of us, 4x more than there were just a century ago. And despite the loneliness epidemic the world population is still increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:47 AM
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Marriage definitely isn't biology. But pair bonding is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:47 PM
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Good for you, seriously. Need more stories like this. Tired of women sitting around like wallflowers and then complaining that there aren't any good men left.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:51 AM
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That's not how these things tend to go. Beta males don't just sit around as the alpha male(s) monopolize more and more of the women. There is a breaking point. This is very synonymous with the rich getting richer at the expense of everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:41 PM
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Do you honestly not see a problem with this statement? Like can you seriously not see how this could hint at a broader issue at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:36 PM
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Typical self centered narcissist response.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:18 PM
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Good luck. I believe the likely outcome in a restructuring of a society is a return of enforced monogamy and more strict gender roles. History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:27 AM
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And let this humanity go extinct. That's the end game of this sort of behavior. Except it won't get to that point because as Chad monopolizes more and more women in his harem, men will get increasingly angry. A growing group of men who feel angry at the fact that they aren't getting their fair shake is never good for society. I already know women en masse don't care - that apathy is precisely the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:14 AM
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Why is it unsustainable? If women would rather be single than date average men, then that’s their choice. And that is unsustainable for the human race lol. We already see birthrates declining in the industrial nations where this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:37 AM
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But you are an average women. And you are refusing to settle for an average guy because "reasons." That is called having inflated standards. It wasn't always like this either, this is new with the rise of social media and OLD. It's unsustainable and it needs to stop. That is what the men here are trying to tell you. And all the women can give in response to this obviously inflated ego is "no I deserve better because I'm a kween!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:44 AM
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Nope objectively not true. Literally can go to a sub like inceltear right now or just about any bluepilled sub and it's filled with comments about how it's ackshually your personality and not your looks at all. No idea where you're getting this from because that is not what women say in reality or online at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:42 AM
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Highly debatable. This is definitely an off take. There are lots of women who don't wear makeup. It creates a fake image and is a toxic substance. I definitely wouldn't say by not doing so they aren't taking care of themselves. This is a soft form of gaslighting. Furthermore, not everyone lives in an industrial society where looks precede everything. There isn't a "routine" to begin with because they don't need to doll themselves up to attract a mate. Their natural image is good enough as is. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:21 AM
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Men are instantly physically attracted to average women. Is that really true? Because if it is, why do women feel the need to put on so much makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 12:21 AM
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You just gotta be Chad bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:42 PM
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in all aspects except technology, which we know know is quite regressive to collective happiness. This cannot be said enough. Unfortunately it'll be a while until we collectively realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:12 PM
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You do get attention. It's not necessarily positive attention but you will get attention. An angry women by contrast might just be ignored/shoved to the side and written off as being emotional at that time of the month and left at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:48 PM
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...it is? Do you not think systemic racism still affects minorities? What the hell lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:31 PM
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If the man really is shy and not just introverted then it's certainly not common. Compared to other men, shy men get asked out a lot more relative to the amount of asking out they do and would need a ton of hints and confirmation before mustering up the courage to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:20 PM
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If you as a woman choose to pick a dumb, narcistic man, instead of a shy, empathetic, intelligent man, does that really mean the second man's genes are "worse" than the genes of the first man? She would say yes. Without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:26 PM
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That purpose being slaving away for the industrial machine to make someone else rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:36 PM
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I mean that period had been sustained for hundreds of thousands of years. Meanwhile this whole civilization thing has only been around for the past few thousand. And industrial civilization has only been around for a few hundred and look at all the social problems it's brought with it in such short time, not to mention the destruction of the entire planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:47 PM
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Because if there were no laws then there would be no order, or in this case grown men and women sleeping with high school kids and no repercussions would occur. Well some women still don't, just look how many female teachers get no jail time for having sex with a student, but I digress. Yes there are laws I completely disagree with and are completely fucked up, but doesn't mean I don't get punished for breaking them. If I go cheat on my SO for whatever reason, yea its not breaking the law (in mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:24 PM
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You've managed to completely bypass my point. Why does what the law say determine what is moral and otherwise? That is what you need to ask yourself. And there are many counterexamples I can find where the law definitely did not define moral behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:21 PM
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Definitely not true. I don't think any sane man would be attracted to a girl under 18 for moral reasons. Does something happen on the crack of dawn when that girl turns 18 that magically makes it now moral to be attracted to them? Furthermore, is this morality also supposed to be culturally dependent as well? Because for some it happens quite a bit before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:12 PM
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It's not borderline, it is narcissism. Our culture encourages it in women. It tells them to stare at their own reflection in the mirror for over an hour every single day and admire how pretty they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:56 PM
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Say it louder for all the people in the back!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 02:48 PM
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I don't think fathers have anything to do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:31 PM
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I think we need to fix the systems causing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:21 PM
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The same could be said for gaming. Admittedly less so but that's because there is a stigma around gaming which has decreased significantly over the past decade. Nonetheless if you achieve a certain amount of prestige in video games it translate to real world success aka real world women. But like with everything else, not everyone can be Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:57 PM
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If all men and boys are screwed, perhaps the problem is systemic as opposed to individual? I swear y'all say stuff like this and yet refuse to acknowledge any social component whatsoever and that maybe it seems a little off that every individual man is bad and they all, simultaneously, need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:51 PM
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Lust is a sin bro. And to your money/rich comment, so is greed. Our society encourages vices. That's why it's so f'ed up. Most women have no interest in hiking/exploring nature in the slightest so neither are very attractive based off that description alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:07 PM
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I’m saying being rich directly translates into being desired. Being rich made women fall in love with him. They didn't fall in love with him though. They lusted after his lifestyle. And yes, there is a big difference between the two that often goes unnoticed because our society encourages this kind of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:49 PM
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It's true everywhere. That sort of locker room talk is found in the biggest cities on the planet across cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:22 PM
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What an NPC take. Imagine your only aspiration in life being to fuck. Animals can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:44 PM
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Nah it's a good reason to get the ick. Makes you feel objectified and alienated. Imagine if someone said in their profile "looking for a dark man to ravage me 😍😍." Some might take that as a go signal but I'd bet no small number of men would immediately think ewww.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:36 PM
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Inspin is the term. It needs to replace femcel (although sadly it won't)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:13 AM
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Ehh acting like giving it up would make them care about her is definitely a stretch. The paper bag meme exist for a reason, really ugly women find it hard to get genuine love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:11 AM
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The problem with judging #2 is that she's using makeup. None of the other women are (or it's very minimal). How makeup artificially enhances appearance and the effect this has on dating isn't discussed nearly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 11:59 AM
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So for the time being women should be treated as the second class citizens that they are? Or should they start taking responsibility and engaging in behaviors expected of an equal gender, like paying on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 02:57 AM
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I think she's just a FDS user
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:00 AM
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You truly are delusional. Like this is pathetic. Like actual reality denying behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 09:49 AM
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Empathy is rare in our world. You're not supposed to select for things like morality in this society. You're supposed to select for looks, money, or some other superficial status. Anything else gets you gaslit as being a virgin incel who can't get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:50 AM
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No, their standards definitely rose. Women did not demand you have a nice car, 6 figure paying job, big house etc back in the day because those things simply didn't exist for most people. Their standards raised with the times as material standard of living increased. That's why western women are notoriously much harder to date and act much more entitled than those from poorer countries. The reverse can also happen. But it takes time for people to be humbled by a loss of material status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:21 PM
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That's pretty sad to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:16 PM
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Sources to back up what claim? I didn't know there was hard evidence for a social claims. Seems to me that the statistics speak for themselves after an increase in promoting casual sex. What's hilarious is that you believe that this is an individualistic problem. Like I know you grew up in a hyperindividualistic country but goddamn, have some analysis. You'd rather believe that all men, everywhere, simultaneously, all at once are getting worse right? Because that's definitely believable. It coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:06 PM
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Lastly as I may have mentioned earlier, if we were to believe the PEW’s research (because that’s where these numbers come from) if so many men are single how are so many women in relationships…? Who are they dating if not men?(not including lesbian or bisexual women) I thought maybe older men but then that doesn’t explain so many older women are in relationships because they can’t be with younger men as there seems to be an epidemic or singleness over there. Quite the mystery 🤔 The same men, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:36 PM
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There it is. "mEn aRenT eNtiTleD to rElaTionShiPs." This honestly needs to be a meme, up there with "just shower bro." Yes women can have standards that go to the goddamn moon if they want to. No one is preventing them from having them. What I'm saying is there is consequences for hypergamous behavior. Consequences that have played out throughout history and will play out again if the loneliness crisis within men is not addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 01:29 AM
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I don't have the statistics but in modern society there has never been more single young men than there are today. 64% of men under 30 are not in a relationship. That is unprecedented. At any other time if 2/3 of men were struggling it was a bad sign. But because it isn't spread throughout the entire population (the older generation is doing a lot better) and we have food and entertainment to preoccupy us, the negative affects haven't spilled over into the mainstream except for a few mass shooti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:29 PM
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Okay but I wasn't talking about incels. The premise from which you based your entire comment off is wrong. History also shows that when a huge chunk of men aren't getting any affection bad things happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:18 PM
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I'm not talking about incels here comrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:37 PM
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It sounds like the natural breakdown of things that are inherently unfair. Rich people: continuing to take more and more, gaslighting poor people for not working hard enough, laughing in their face at their supposed shortcomings while taking a bigger slice of the cake Poor people: Your day is coming. Just look at how things went for the French when inequality got this bad. I'd be careful about letting things reach too low a point. You: tHat sOunDs liKe a tHreAt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:06 PM
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And if it doesn't work? Oh well right? You do realize this sort of thing has consequences? Historically it has never been a good thing when a large segment of the male population felt a lack of affection and frustrated and guess what's happening now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:10 AM
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Yes dude, all of a sudden 40%+ dudes are the problem and it has nothing to do with rising women standards and hypergamy due to OLD as well as a decaying society. This hyperindividualistic attitude in the west that completely ignores systemic factors makes me sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:59 PM
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No it can't. All of the women over at foreveralonewomen could be chosen by the end of the week if they really wanted to be. The same can be said for maybe 10% of men over at foreveralone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:18 PM
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None of the articles you linked disproves the statement that more pills were used back in the day as compared to now. The first one actually supports it. So what point is it that you are trying to make? Of course we know women take more pills than men, that was kind of the whole point of the comment chain. If they were just oh so happy with the way things are now arranged, they wouldn't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:46 PM
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That's your retort? Seriously? Man people sure do look pathetic when they're proven wrong. "Wolfing down pills in the 1950's" 😂. Of course we take more pills today. Like how delusional do you have to be 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:30 PM
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The fact that prescriptions were all basically for one pill tells me that no, they didn't have very many pills in the 50s. Just before you were going on about how they were "wolfing down pills of all types." I don't even have to look it up to know people take far more pills today. That's true without question. It looks like to me it is you that needs to do some reading. Stop creating statistics from your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:34 AM
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Source on people taking more drugs in the 1950s as compared to today? Pills are a relatively modern invention and we have more now than ever before. I find it extremely hard to believe they were scarfing them down at an alarming rate compared to now. Birth control didn't even exist back then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:46 AM
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I mean it sounds like you just selected some criteria that favors women and then went on to say that they higher standards in it and thus deserve better men for it. I could equally say that men are stronger, work more, work harder, are necessary for most of the infrastructure that runs society, compete at a higher level etc. Sure outliers exist but on the whole, men are better and more central at the above than women. Therefore, they deserve above average partners. See how that works? Turns out …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:43 AM
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Those subs are far left?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:38 AM
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Well we know women's standards are high that's not really up for debate. But I should ask what qualifies as high standards for life to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:28 PM
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Are all men expected to bring themselves to above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:10 PM
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Many men aren't even able to get into a relationship with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:02 PM
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Well I mean women attempt suicide at a higher rate. Point being if the way things are arranged was such a good deal for women, they sure as hell don't act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:50 PM
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They were wolfing down pills of all types in the 50s too, way more than today They were?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:48 PM
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If you weren't "giving it up" then it was a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:38 AM
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Men know that their dating options are in shambles lol. That's literally the theme of this entire sub. No, men aren't going to work hard to become a top 20% man to get the princess. And also no, this isn't going to end the way you think it will with the vast majority of men just dying sad lonely and single. With female standards rising through the roof while they offer nothing of value in return, there will eventually be a breaking point and it won't look pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:05 AM
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Spot on. Glad to see you're raising awareness comrade. Yes the game is completely rigged. Any wonder why it's getting harder and harder for men at the same time more and more people are struggling financially? Wealthy people aren't struggling though, they get all the female attention and resources they can ever want. Like the problem is literally staring you right in the face and people (largely women) will still gaslight men that if they just showered enough and worked on themselves etc. Just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:55 AM
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It's common to get shot by just talking to guy? ...what?? Am I living in the same reality as you guys wth LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:37 AM
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I certainly don't want to be seen as the "provider." I want an equal in partnership and most importantly, a companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:35 AM
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Yeah if you so much as open your mouth to a guy he might shoot you! Can't be to careful out here if you even take one step from your house who knows what might happen to you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:29 PM
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How can single women be constantly having casual sex but also turning down almost all men all the time? Because they do it with Chad. A majority of women sleeping with a small and decreasing number of men. Only ever dating up and ignoring the vast swaths of men around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:39 AM
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in regards to you talking about how women wish they were ugly to men This isn't even remotely true. If it were they wouldn't spend hours everyday in the mirror applying make up with the express purpose of appearing prettier to men. They want to be pretty, but they want to be pretty to the right type of man ie. not being approached by loser randoms. If they really wanted to be ugly to men (or at least approached much less) then there are ways to achieve that. There are videos of how much women ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:42 AM
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I think old religions are a deadend--modern people cannot really believe that kind of thing en masse any more. But there may be newer types of religions that we can believe in. Perhaps work from home could allow people to stay in their hometowns and see a revival of extended family and local community, thereby allowing for local social norms to have teeth. I don't know how much you realize it but you are spot on with this sentiment. I sincerely believe that the religion of the future is an earth…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:23 PM
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Long story short, you spend centuries-millennia disabling a woman's ability to see herself as a person or pick her mate, and then when she finally gets the freedom to do those things, you get mad at her for not doing them to your liking. Give women a few generations to work out the kinks and figure out what they need, ffs. That's easy, they want Chad. End of story. The other 80 (and probably 90% by the end of this decade) can go kick rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:18 PM
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The hypocrisy is real and she can't even see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:49 AM
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