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DiscussionYourAverageTurkGuy/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:24 PM
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I apologize for the generalization. I just thought you were on the whole looksmaxxing / blackpill pipeline.
/r/seduction25/05/26 03:20 PM
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If you're still talking about injecting stuff to raise libido and fixing jaw recession at 35, you might indeed be wasting your life away. I'm srory.
/r/seduction25/05/26 02:00 PM
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It's mostly down to social experiences and skills you garner in childhood and early adolescence. Of course you can learn at a later age, but it takes much more effort and intention. If you weren't socialized with girls in your early years, you're probably not going to be as natural compared to a boy who did.
/r/seduction10/05/26 02:36 PM
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If I went home with a girl for the first time and the next day I couldn't find my watch or my laptop etc... I'd be pretty stressed out too. I think what matters is her response after she found her rings: Did she apologise for her behavior? Or did she brush it off as it was nothing?
/r/seduction21/03/25 12:43 PM
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turn that frustration into ambition and drive, you got this bro.
/r/seduction20/08/24 01:54 PM
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bro if a girl feels guilt or embarassment from no 3 just end the date asap she probably thick.
/r/seduction19/08/24 06:25 PM
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In order to be approached, you first need to be noticed. There are 4 factors when it comes to people noticing you. Your height, body, face and attire. Your height will matter the most. Hear me out please. Tall people are noticed way easier even if they look bad. Because you just notice them due to their frame that fills up most of your vision. Once someone notices you, they will probably look you up and down once to gather more information. If they are coming from afar, your attire and body will…
/r/seduction19/08/24 06:09 PM
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don't overthink it, just do all the things you would normally do (like a nice massage, caressing etc.) in the morning.
/r/seduction16/08/24 10:12 AM
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Feeling shy around girls and not being attracted to girls are two separate issues. The first one comes with experience and letting your expectations go. There are lot of posts and good comments about this specific issue in the sub, check them out. If you don't feel attracted to girls romantically, maybe you're gay? or you haven't experienced love? I think you ought to do some personal discovery and come back with more specific questions.
/r/seduction16/08/24 10:03 AM
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Either she really has some past trauma and has a hard time dating/trusting people in general, or she gave you mating signs and you couldn't see them fast enough and now she moved on because the initial feelings she had for you are not there anymore. EDIT: I generally assume the second option in this type of scenario, because I used to be awkward and overly-courteous in dating back a few years, and I would infantilize almost all the women I had gone on dates with like they were a princess in dist…
/r/seduction07/05/24 02:45 AM
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Step 1: Maximise your appeal by getting a fresh haircut, dressing appropriately for the club etc. Step 2: Choose the right club. This is the most important part. Every club (techno,r&b,lgbt,hispanic etc.) has a different dynamic, and different types of girls who frequent them. Choose the right one for you where you think the girls are more your type and the music is something you'll normally enjoy. Step 3: Choose the right girl. It's not creepy to vet your surroundings and look around. Look for …
/r/seduction27/04/24 04:35 PM
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I'm not advocating drinking or anything but why go to clubs if you won't drink and if you don't enjoy the music at all? Stick to metal concerts and stuff that you enjoy tbh and you'll find a girl playing the long term game. For me it was dance clubs (tango, urban, folklore), and I got into friend groups and had fwb relationships as I put more time into dancing and initiating friendships in these social groups.
/r/seduction15/04/24 03:00 PM
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Depends on whether you're in a relationship or not, no? For example, I would have crushes to my attractive female friends and sometimes I would act on these urges and flirt with them occasionally when I was single. Some of these even resulted in fwb situationships. Rn, I have a ltr gf. I still find my attractive friends attractive. I just keep my primitive reptilian brain in check and keep the flirting/teasing to a minimum. I try to be a good bf and also a fun friend.
/r/seduction11/04/24 06:23 AM
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Dont hate the player, hate the game. As long as men are desperate pussy-mongers, women will have the opportunity and right to leverage that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:53 AM
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The thing is, women from his standing SHOULD be high-value. If girls from Ivy League are stupid and shallow, we're truly fucked as a society.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/23 10:01 AM
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I'm a young guy (early 20's) and had a similar experience in Italy. The Italian girls I started dating would generally suggest open relationships since it's apparently the trend here. I'm pretty laid-back since I know I'll never marry any of the girls I date here so I accept. As soon as they see that I'm fucking someone hotter than them, which I signal in my IG stories, snap etc. they want to close the relationship because they apparently fell in love with me :D. This year, I got tired of doing …
/r/TheRedPill19/03/23 09:57 AM
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My Standards Income: I’d like a man that makes similar to what I make. I wouldn’t date a man that makes less than me and I don’t want to be with some controlling rich nutcase either. I’d like to be on the same page with our income and goals…. So… $150,000-$200,000. Would you be okay with a man who has a stable, okay career (70k-100k in my mind) if he fulfilled all other standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:38 PM
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You don't have to be a machiavellian asshole just to attract gals
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:31 PM
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I mean, unless the said woman drastically changed their personality, looks and demeanor; we can tell if she’s been around or not. High body count is generally result of someone hoeing around, both for women and men. And it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:37 PM
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The correlation, although existing, is not that strong as far as I know. Certainly not strong enough to significantly change the extremely small percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:02 PM
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Well you have to bear in mind that we all start our dating journey with high standards at young age. Women are allowed to have higher standards than men because most men are thirsty and there is an abundance of men willing to fuck below average-average women. This allows women to have higher standards in their youth. I would assume that this dynamic shifts with older age. My advice for average young men, even though I'm quite young myself, would be to stop chasing pussy and start improving thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:04 AM
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This might vary from person to person but for me, attractivenes is like a pre-condition. I need to be somewhat attracted to the person I'm with on a physical level and then my actual filter is based on personality and behaviour. I would rather have a 5.5-6/10 with a compatible personality than a 9-10/10 with incompatible personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 03:39 PM
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LOL why re you exposing me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:01 PM
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Tell that to my skyrim addict gf
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:53 PM
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I'm a pretty extraverted guy who got into stem. I'm in my jr year now and school projects are a blast. They basically hand me 3-4 guys in my major who have crippling social anxiety and I have to parent all of them so we can get the project going. One time I did a one shot dnd session with them to break the ice because otherwise they literally wouldn't socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:26 AM
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depends on the girl dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:20 AM
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Literally no one idolizes single motherhood. Most single mothers will tell you that it's a shitty situation that they don't want to be in. If you're a single mother because you got knocked up out of wedlock or initiated divorce for petty reasons, yeah you're responsible for that. But most single mothers in poverty are single because of dads going out for milk and never coming back. The divorced single moms are generally from middle class so at least the kids got a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:37 PM
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AndrewTate-pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:24 AM
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What if the woman doesn't know how to give hints? Had a girl in my class telling me she was in love with me for the last 2 years and that she was always looking my way so she thought I knew. She spoke to me like 3 times in 2 years. Most of y'all are shy as fuck and your "hints" are undetectable. Besides, you give such a shit argument. Why are you comparing taking hints in terms of flirting/sex with taking personal responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 12:21 AM
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Had the same thing happen to me lol. She was all over me in the first two dates and I wanted a LTR this time so I took things slow. We went back to my place for the third date and had a really fun night. Things were great and all but next day she says she's just vibing and doesn't really want a relationship so we kinda broke off because I was looking for a relationship back then. Girls can be players too bro hahahaha. Anyway just take the W and go on, doesn't sound like you did anything wrong.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:21 PM
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Either she's fucked in the head (obsessed with the same guy for 7 fucking years) or she's playing some idiotic games to make you like her. Anyway go fw her for sure but have other options.
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:17 PM
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I think you got the right idea but wrong execution. Instead of asking a girl dancing/grinding on you if you can kiss her, make the dance sexier and initiate physical contact and then just go for the kiss if you're feeling it.
/r/seduction11/09/22 11:37 PM
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Snitch her to her bf. Still fuck her after they break up.
/r/seduction10/09/22 08:30 PM
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It's probably because we're insecure about it and inflate our numbers. (unless it was anonymous)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 07:46 PM
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I'm not saying winning is the measurement dude. People in the stock market do not BELIEVE in stocks, they utilize it as a tool to leverage their properties. It's a very capitalist concept and you can argue if it's wrong or not but they don't blindly follow pseudoscience they use procedures and analysis to leverage their money (at least the educated ones).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:42 PM
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I mean yeah, if we were in an ideal situation, I would say some people would be okay with promiscuity and some people wouldn't. Those people would stay in their own circles and find compatible partners and worry about their own lives in peace. But what happens often is that one of the above two groups try to gain the upper ground and shame/repress the other one and you get people who try to mold their society in their own ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:08 PM
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You're mistaking a competition with a belief. Stock Market is a competition and make no mistake there are men who win. Most lose. Still doesn't discredit the fact that it is a skill that can be cultivated. Astrology and horoscopes are so different than the stock market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:01 PM
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I think they just missed the part that this attracts a certain type of girl, a girl that you wouldn't want to associate with if you were looking for a relationship. Why would you want to associate with a Clout / Alpha chaser for long term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:55 PM
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I got a nice story about this. So in HS, I played soccer for 2 years and generally dated girls around my circle who were pretty fun and cute while I'm a funny guy but still a little more grounded/low pace. So I had to learn the cute stuff, the baby talk and all that crap to match the energy of my partners. Junior year, I quit soccer because of a moderate injury and got into debate during my injury where I'd binge watch content. Joined the debate and rhetorics team, turns out I'm far more capable…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:32 PM
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Take it one day at a time bro. Dont worry about girls and try to get your programming shit finished and keep hitting the gym. Dont mention you re a virgin most non-virgins suck at sex anyway. Be open to improve and learn. You can’t change your past and neither can you change your future in one day. You can change tomorrow and the days after though. Keep focused
/r/TheRedPill03/09/22 01:24 AM
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Idk. You have some reasonable arguments but I've had tinder for 8 weeks and so far I mostly match with fat chicks I slide on accident even though I got a decent face, nice photos and an athletic body. I would say my match average is like 4.5 while I would give myself at least 6.5
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 12:02 AM
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He debates dumb and drunk miami girls bro what do you expect? Did you notice how he never drinks on the show and the girls always do? Did you watch the times aba and destiny literally crushed him in debate? edit: Myron is not dumb obviously he has some intellectual capacity but I can guarantee %100 these are not the guys you want dating advice from. Their advice only works for rich men who want to wife up young gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:51 PM
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The nice guy label has some additional context. The stereotypical nice guy is generally meek, socially awkward, physically unappealing, people-pleasing, and low self-esteemed. These are the guys women don't want to date. On the other hand, if you're a confident, attractive and succesful man who's also nice you would have zero problems in dating. Bullies on the other hand are physically dominating and command some sort of fear/respect from their peers. This leads to higher confidence which also h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 11:35 PM
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You're searching for "meaningful connections" at the club my dude, that's never gonna work. Being away from the town and going out once a week sounds tough. Hobbies and stuff are not viable I guess. You have to get out more, secure a friend group and maybe take things further wtih some of the people you meet. Securing a friend group is not as easy as hs/college I would imagine so you could try hobby groups.
/r/seduction29/08/22 08:47 PM
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will probably guarantee socialisation, new skills and a friend group though.
/r/seduction29/08/22 08:46 PM
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20M Here. I think Shay Rowbottom's list depicts a good, stoic man who is an ideal partner for women in workplaces. However life isn't ideal. There are meek men, there are aggressive men and there are those in between. People want the golden ratio while it's rare. I think, if a man can relate and idealise himself as being the man Shay Rowbottom depicts, they should go for it. But I still don't think molding men into one shape and form is the solution here. ​ edit: I don't necessarily agree with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:31 PM
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Preach bro ahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 10:00 PM
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I'm sorry you think that way brother. I study Computer Engineering and my goal is to find a women from a similar career and with similar temperaments, and make some bank with her and then go to Ibiza every summer for raves and festivals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:56 PM
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"If all men don’t benefit then it isn’t a patriarchy" - So we're to take your IDEA of patriarchy over the historical and philosophical definitions and real world examples of patriarchy. Sure buddy. "You’re just blaming men for something they’re not apart of" - I'm not blaming men for anything. On the contrary, I am saying that this system no longer benefits men and should be slowly reformed into something more beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:24 PM
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Doesn’t change the fact that it is a system created by men and ruled by men. I understand the frustration and I get your point. That’s why I point out most men suffer from patriarchy as well. This “most men can’t get girlfriends so we should advise all men to become rich, jacked to get girlfriends” is what creates this feedback loop. Lonely men in their 20’s try to become rich and powerful because they feel inadequate. Most fail, few succeed and the ones that succeed just give everyone the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:08 PM
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Who is the god in leading western religion? Holy Father. Who are the ones in the top %1 financial bracket who rule the world? Who are the ones that wrote modern laws? Who have waged all the wars and dictated world politics? Who has made most inventions and lead humanity to better and worse places? Men. Patriarchy basically means that men hold majority of the power in this world and this is a FACT. Now you can argue that patriarchy is good or bad, that is a whole separate issue. However, denying …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:49 PM
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To be fair there were places and times where some cultures experimented. Ancient greeks were pretty open and progressive about it and it worked great for them for some time. Renaissance was really cool as well when it came to romance. But I get what you're saying. Judeo-Christian values and all that no longer apply to the young populace because people who let bible or religious texts guide their life are increasingly less common. But I wanna face this issue and find a new solution rather than be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:02 AM
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Exactly. I get many people want tradwives but I think many people here live with their families or stuff because supporting a whole household by yourself is no longer as easy as it used to be thanks to Late Stage Capitalism. I would very much prefer a working partner who I can divide the bills and the chores with than a tradwife who puts no financial positives on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:58 AM
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People will always have their biases man. It’s just like how some right wing actors complain about the left’s inability to debate while debating dumbass college students and not someone on their level. Or just like how left media is banning Manosphere content like crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:08 PM
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I think your comment sums my thoughts up very efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:04 PM
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Look I can’t say you’re wrong or disprove you but trust me I’ve seen guys with black nails fuck 9’s and 10’s left and right in my college.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 06:00 PM
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The MRA sub itself can be good, but their advocates and real world representatives are a bunch of morons imo. And I do agree, the woke culture banning these men’s spaces is like trying to fix a skin cancer by removing a lump. They are trying to fix the issue they have created by banning the symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:29 PM
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Here's the thing though. My situation might be a little bit different and I already wrote about it in my post. I'm a Uni student in Europe and the traditional man isn't the type of guy girls I interact are into. And tbh I want an educated woman that at least can put some money on the table because raising a family is expensive. Most of them have feminine, I apologise for saying this but twink boyfriends. I'm not saying I wanna be that type of guy since I know it isn't really my thing but yeah ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:09 AM
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Would you agree that Asexuals are a very small minority and most lonely people are involuntarily that way because of prior isolation and other varying reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:23 AM
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Got it and yeah it definitely makes sense. On OLD I was getting close to 1-2 matches every month and frustrated with this I ringed up a girl friend and she took me out to a photoshoot and took my pics with a better cam + good outfits + minor photoshop edits that girls do and even though I'm not matching left and right, I'm getting around 30-35 matches a month which is really good improvement. I'm thinking of quitting tho my school is gonna open in a few weeks and I wanna chat up the girls in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:20 AM
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we can talk about it if you want to. what parts of it do you find wack or what is your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:16 AM
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so you're saying less online time more real life haha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:15 AM
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Here's the thing. I agree with the advice you give on all basic levels. Actually, once you take away all the spicy theories out of redpill and stick with the self improvement I think it's so helpful for men. I try to stick to those things you listed as well. ​ And I do agree that for most women status, looks and money are all you are. And that's alright tbh because most men are willing to date chicks that look cute enough so we're fairly shallow as well. But I live in Europe and have met some am…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:10 AM
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Got it! I will need to get some new friends though since rn my mates are kinda drifting into alt-right territory and the whole black/redpill stuff. I kinda wanna talk to them about this stuff but also don't wanna come off like I have moral high ground or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:56 AM
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I don't really have a problem with women, it's just that I want to be in a community with like-minded men and can't seem to find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:54 AM
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Thanks! I definitely want to try out martial arts particularly Jiu Jitsu, as I've heard it's got one of the best communities out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:53 AM
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I'm afraid my dad's a little too passive for these topics and really doesn't give an f. Friends are not that bad but most are in the RedPill phase rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:52 AM
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will try
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:51 AM
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Robert Glover, I love to read. Will check out the others though thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:50 AM
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I read a lot of history and from what I see, women were harnessed to the Patriarchal imperative (to be fair Patriarchy enslaves both men and women, the only ones who benefit from it are the %1) for a LONG time and some managed to break free while others are feeding this harness while having the illusion of breaking free. I don't really see women as the enemy, they're human after all. And in the end, my goal isn't to abide to the female imperative, it is to understand the female perspective to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:49 AM
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Really? What I see is that some people in the Manosphere are taking advantage of lonely, young men and leading them into a path of materialism and unpurposeful lives. Surely there must be different schools of thought we can follow to address this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:45 AM
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I thought so too but I learned about so many different cultures and relationships that are far from western traditional values and still function. Besides, I'm not really a traditionally masculine person in the inside anyway. It would just be pretending for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:42 AM
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What's your idea of a normal healthy person?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:41 AM
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Lemme check it out. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:40 AM
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I mean weird logic but I'll entertain it. It's good that you look at the past and see how the world around us has been formed, however you are failing to look at the present and individual perspective. Yes, you may theorise that not everyone will reproduce and they don't have to; but you fail to acknowledge that every person lives their life as the main character and their inability to reproduce/have intimate relationship with someone will impact their character so much in so many ways. That fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:31 PM
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Prey may be sounding offensive to you and I won't argue with that but you have to accept that in social dynamics there is the Pursuer and there is the Pursued. I'm not saying women can't be the ones who do the Pursuing but oftentimes, that is not the case. Especially in scenarios where you're in bars/clubs etc. you have to play to this social dynamic to get laid. Again, I'm not saying this is right but it's the way the game is.
/r/seduction18/08/22 02:04 PM
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Gain new hobbies and attend hobby groups. You don't have to talk at first. Just observe how other people interact with each other and how succesful people around you interact with women. After a while you will get used to the group and will be able to form meaningful conversations with other women in your group. Once you shake off your anxiety and your negative biases you can start interacting with other women from your friend group or maybe even strangers when you feel confident enough. Do this…
/r/seduction15/08/22 03:24 PM
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Here's the thing. For most men, it's not an important criteria. Okay it's cool that you have a good income and that is actually better since assuming we will marry and build a family, you would make us significantly stronger. BuT comes the children. ​ (Assuming you don't live at a ultra progressive country where paternal leave and maternal leave is both valid and significantly longer than USA) ​ As a career-driven women, if you are okay to make the sacrifice to put your career on hold and look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:26 AM
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Because although the views itselves are generally toxic and dangerous in the long run, it gives you the ability to build the confidence and gives you the tools you need to enter the dating market. I've been in the Manosphere and RedPill communities for 2 years through my 17-19's and quit after realising it gave me all the positives it could and I could always reject the negatives. I got into bodybuilding and gota body I was proud of and loved. Read more books and hustled more, put myself in a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:15 AM
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Depends on the person. Sure there are some women who simply have unrealistic standards that they themselves can't match and will wait for prince charming forever but if a woman spent her 20's improving her career and herself I think she has the right to have high standards considering that the end goal for both parties is to settle down with a high value person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:32 PM
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exactly hahahaha normal people just tell their partner at some point if they have kinks and those kinks are discovered if both parties are okay
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:06 AM
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Online Dating, definitely not. Meeting people through friend circles and hobby groups, much more chance for the "average guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:41 AM
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Yeah man, as I said you have to up your looks and your convo skills in order to become a viable option to them. Right now, you’re nice and rich. Very good traits I would want my friend to have. However, there are men out there who are emotionally appealing, visually appealing to women who they see as more than friends. You can not expect to be that man unless you seriously level up in physical and mental appeal. Disclaimer: you can still find someone special who likes for what you are but that’s…
/r/seduction05/08/22 09:16 PM
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Gym, outfits, smell, hair, car, vibe, swag, game. If you’re 18-25 this is what matters from what I have experienced. You’re in a good position with the financial situation, so you can build most of these with ease. For social skills and flirting, expose yourself to situations and talk to people non stop. First step comes from the inside though so you can start dressing better, investing on some jewelry, parfumes, tattoos if you re into that and go to gym on top.
/r/seduction05/08/22 08:48 PM
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I can understand your frustration and shitty men are accountable for their actions. But so are you. If you’re speaking from personal experience and have a hard time picking good men, get into better social circles, change your environment and try your luck out there. If you’re not speaking from personal experience, know that you are making a generalisation and not all men are manipulative. No one says you should date nice guys other than “nice guys”. Go follow your heart and fall in love. But do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:33 PM
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We live in a world where people are categorised. If you’re a certain race, you’re treated differently. If you’re rich you’re treated differently. If you’re attractive you’re treated differently. This is already something we all know. I’d even argue that the gap between an attractive girl and an unattractive girls in terms of how society treats them is wider that the same gap between attractive men and unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:21 PM
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Because it is assumed that once you reach a certain point of value, you don't need to spin plates and have multiple options. Some people purely like monogamy and focusing on one girl, while being everything else a high value man is. It's a choice imo, once you become high value you can still go around spinning plates and having fun with multiple girls or you can choose monogamy with a girl you trust and is loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:13 PM
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Men who are 25+ year old with a decent job, decent looks and decent personality can get in relationships easy provided they have an ok social circle. Young men who are still not financially independent/studying have it really hard unless they excel at something else which is attractive. This is the game, not saying it's fair or anything else but we've got to play with the cards we're dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:28 PM
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Just stating my opinion based on my subjective analysis of watching a ton of this dude’s content. He has some other beliefs and advice that makes sense in terms of finance, self-development etc. but in my opinion his view on relationships and women are basically like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:44 AM
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Can be summed up in: Toxic outlook on relationships disguised as being traditional and territorial. Extreme issues regarding being in control and having authority. Thinking his way of life is the natural one and refusing to accept any different perspectives on living life. Has some girls who are okay with him being their owner, ruler; thinks every girl is that way deep down.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:32 AM
2

Shit take brother. OnlyFans and Tinder has proven times and times over that the majority of men will fold over women, getting nothing in return. This doesn’t really matter though because you choose how you live your life. Just don’t be one of those miserable pricks who spend their mom’s medication money to egirls and you’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 02:15 AM
5

You do realise that some people don’t prefer to fuck on first date right? Like, as a man, I won’t fuck someone on the first date unless I decide its going to be something casual, and this is purely based on personal principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:58 AM
5

Nice analogy. Especially with how many options most women have on OLD, I can’t blame them for filtering out short men. Especially considering OLD has been used as mating grounds for some time now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:54 AM
1

Sure I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:02 PM
1

So what? I’m trying to make a correlation, not a generalisation. I’m not saying that intelligent people can’t get laid, just trying to explain one of the reasons why some intelligent people can’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:33 PM
1

Read the post, dude talks about stem people and academic intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:12 PM
1

IQ has been correlated to higher self-awareness, and higher self-awareness (when young and insecure) can manifest as social anxiety. Because of my school and line of study, I know bunch of intelligent dudes who are also socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:29 AM
1

Takes social/emotional intelligence to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:27 AM
7

True but also a reality check. Most men would be bored by those topics as well. As it turns out, most people are not interested in deeply intellectual topics and find simple stuff more fun. Most men I see in bars are literally fixated on the football game for hours on end drinking beer and watching the game while the women are in the bathroom refreshing their makeup every 30 mins. It’s just how people are. If you enjoy intellectual talk, you need to find an intellectual woman instead of suppress…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:29 PM
1

Looks like you need to find purpose and mission man.
/r/seduction23/07/22 08:05 PM
9

Hey, thanks! And yeah I agree, some people who identify as Intelligent think bombarding the other person with information they're not interested in is flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 07:56 PM
1

Someone being attractive doesn’t mean you’re less valuable. Stop living life comparing yourself with others and trying to get in relationships to feel more valuable. Start living for yourself and your goals and get in relationships because you love the person sitting across you.
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:03 PM
14

Depends on the coder :) I’m a computer engineering major who always had a soft spot for psychology and history and people who are competent in that area amaze me so much I feel like I want to listen to them for hours. I don’t know much about your field but it sounds like you excel at it which I think is impossible without intelligence and hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:55 PM
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Intelligence isn’t the problem my dude. If you’re decent looking, have social intelligence and academic intelligence as well you will be unstoppable. The problem is, the stereotyped guy in STEM have all their exp points in academic intelligence and have nothing else going for them. I’m in computer engineering and it’s wild how asocial my class is and when they do bar events it’s so funny watching them not being able to handle their alcohol and fumble with girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:44 PM
13

I can never think of a situation where it makes sense to change your subject if you like it and excel at it. Expand your friend group and hang out with chicks out of STEM, if you don’t like your options there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:38 PM
30

Yeah but are we talking about A. Attraction based on career B. Attraction based on intelligence Because you can still be attracted to his intelligence without being attracted to his line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:36 PM
14

Nice read and it opened a discussion in my head but I think I’m going to stick with my statement. Here’s why: I’ve been to bars and clubs with mates a lot of times. The most obnoxious mates I went with would basically try to flirt with every girl they see, saying meaningless shit and initiating physical contact. They would get rejected 5-6 times before any success but at the end of the day, they’d generally return home with a girl. More intelligent mates were generally anxious to approach girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:22 PM
1

Sounds tough bro. I hope you accept yourself and find someone who accepts you as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:01 PM
13

My computer engineering course would disagree man. Spent last semester in a bender and got me fucked up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:52 PM
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Yeah if you’re approaching girls at the bar or clubs being your intelligent ass, your self-awareness actually works negatively in those interactions where you literally have to “dumb it down” and relax. A person who is intelligent would probably have a harder time doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:10 PM
3

I see where you’re coming from and it makes sense to me. Of course we could assess more if we knew about the whole interaction but I think based on given info, yours is a valid take as well.
/r/seduction23/07/22 04:14 PM
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I guess it’s more applicable in situations where the guy likes the girl and the girl knows but doesn’t feel the same way but still keeps him around for attention. But like beta or not if you’re in a situation like this I think men need to be responsible enough to realise what’s going on and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 04:03 PM
2

Alright man, that might be the case as well but I personally refrain on making assumptions out of a single post. I can’t say the dude is creepy just because he used Isolation as his word of choice.
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:51 PM
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I think he just meant he should’ve given his attention to one girl and tried to build up rapport with her instead of playing to the whole group.
/r/seduction23/07/22 03:39 PM
3

What I would do is, if she’s okay with that type of relationship, text her only 2 days before and 2 days after she arrives. Rest of the month forget about her. Do this for as long as one of you gets in a serious relationship and then forget about it entirely.
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:12 PM
0

Here's the thing man. As long as there's humans, there's gonna be chaos. Now I understand that most young girls had an experience with a jackass like this who was abusive, manipulative and a jackass. We're (girls and boys) stupid when we are young and that jackass actually seems attractive when you're at that age. You don't think about consequences. shit every boy wants to be Chad and every girl wants to date him why would I refuse him if I was a young girl? ​ And when people get older, some get…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:16 PM
1

Liking someone is a dynamic situation, not a static one. What happened at the club is a CLEAR sign of attraction and if you like her back you need to play along and give her something to work with. I understand that you're nervous but this girl already seems confident enough for the both of you. Just put some effort man.
/r/seduction22/07/22 03:10 PM
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I'm 20 but I would say I wouldn't really teach her anything about life spesifically. I would just try to be the best father and husband possible and set up a good and realistic example for her to follow and I would trust her to know what is good and what is bad based on the example that I have set and based on her logical reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:23 PM
1

If he seems like a genuinely good dude, and you're attracted sexually; By all means, have sex with him. I don't understand women who treat sex as a prize that a man has to earn after a couple dates. If you have sex to offer as a prize, then psyhcologically I will lean on leaving after I get my prize. ​ Anyway, you have to understand what the person sitting across the table wants. If he's always talking about fun topics, clubs, Ibiza, partying, physical attraction, drama he has with girls etc. Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 06:05 PM
1

why do we care so much when girls say they prefer tall guys. people are insecure about shit maybe that's why?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:15 AM
1

We all want the perfect man/woman, and hate the perfect man/woman the opposite gender wants because we can never be that man/woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:20 PM
1

Im 20 too young for it but if I get to 30 and still no wifey, I'll try this haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:17 PM
2

Sure, happy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:32 PM
5

I think you held good frame and this is what I would do in your situation.
/r/seduction16/07/22 12:30 PM
2

It’s 2022. People don’t care about bonding and love anymore. It’s self improvement and ego satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:23 PM
1

Why would anyone be a prostitute in 21st century when there are far more better options where you can make more money without fucking with random creeps. ex: OnlyFans, certain Tiktokers. They're basically showcasing their body and get crazy money. Especially in America where social media has a strong grip on your society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:21 PM
1

I guess the answer depends on your personality, environment that you're in and your looks. Because if you're really hot, you could just live off tinder for years hooking up with 6-8's. If you're decent looking you could do cold approach or warm approach, tbh it depends on what type of person you are and what type of relationship you're looking for. There's the guys who are constantly in clubs trying to find chicks they can grind on and bring home, guys who try through social circles, cold approa…
/r/seduction07/07/22 08:53 PM
1

Everyone has different moral principles bro. If I was a young woman with options, I could have chose to explore these options. The BetaBuxx is genuinely okay paying the lifestyle of a woman and her children and gets some sort of fake/real(debatable) intimacy and commitment in return. Although I would not recommend the BetaBuxx route since they generally get cheated on :/ And me, personally, wouldn't own up someone else's child nor pay for their lifestyle. So if you are pissed off at these Beta's…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:15 PM
6

Competition is exciting, exciting is good. This is how people think unconsciously. If you’re with a better girl than her, the girl that didnt want you will try to step up her game and have you. Envy is one of the biggest darkness of human mind. You see your work buddy with a BMW and start fuming, work hard get a Mercedes. She sees you with other chicks, so she has to work hard and have you. You can still be a loyal guy and be seen as a player, as long as you got a beautiful chick. But if you’re …
/r/seduction03/07/22 10:01 PM
1

You're over-analyzing right now my INTP friend. Next time just say "Haha well take it as a compliment." and leave without a second thought if she's taken or looks disinterested. It's not in the words, it's in the way they say the words.
/r/seduction02/07/22 03:05 AM
3

Yo, that's great bro. Men are almost never approached so I think you must be doing stuff right! Congratulations on the fat loss journey as well!
/r/seduction01/07/22 11:30 AM
17

Check out urban dancing. You'll kill it in clubs, and can be pretty sexy as well. If you're more classy, I would say some latin american dances could be a good start. Once you get into it, you have so many different options and so many different communities that you interact with. I once travelled throughout the whole eastern europe with a folklore dancing group and we hopped through hotels and we were 10 boys 10 girls, 2 coaches who were basically chilling and smoking weed whole time so we had …
/r/seduction01/07/22 02:02 AM
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Considering that %70 of tinder users are male, It's a pvp bro. If she's got more handsome men in her dms she will slide over to them. If I were in their boots getting matches in and out I'd be selective as fuck too. But to be fair, I get you. Dating apps shouldn't be such an awful experience for men. But this is the reality we live in and this is game we play, no point in whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:34 AM
3

I think the term you're searching for is "High-Value Woman" but even then, they are not 1 singular type of women. Everyone is different but to become high-value woman/man I think what you need is good upbringing, a certain level of intelligence and self-awareness, and a desire to be a better person, and some financial security is a cherry on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:11 PM
7

Nice thought pattern, but you're missing something. You see, until the last 50-60 years or so; most women couldn't (not saying didn't, saying couldn't) work. They had no means of income. So they were, naturally, dependent on men. This is why if you want to be a traditional man and find a traditional wife, you have to stop bitching about how you have to provide and how your girl doesn't do jack shit. Because it's the system you created and it's the system you want. If you have a more modern appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:01 PM
1

Well, I'm 21 and my female friends from college are either out eating at nice places and snapping or they're sending me tiktoks. I've got #krissed like 20 times this week. Can't call em lazy because I do the exact same nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:56 PM
2

I agree that women in PurplePill are outliers to mainstream generalization of femininity. It's because only a small amount of (generally western) women use reddit and in that group, a very select few are on Purple Pill debate. These women probably read about Bluepill, Redpill, Purplepill and like to debate about these topics. You're trying to categorise people into different categories and it doesn't make sense. The only difference between an average female and the average female on this sub, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:54 PM
1

If she's truly into avoidant type of people like you say, you should've just said "okay, take care." and she would probably be crawling back to you in 2-3 weeks when she's bored and wants attention. And when she comes back, it's up to you to take her back or leave her in her depravity.
/r/seduction30/06/22 02:41 PM
1

Basically dancing to modern pop, hip-hop and some latin pop.
/r/seduction29/06/22 11:31 AM
1

My point still stands.
/r/seduction29/06/22 11:28 AM
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I mean if she’s cheating on her boyfriend, I’m not gonna give her the opportunity to cheat on me as well ahahah. Besides, if she’s okay with casual sex and you’re okay with it as well, no one is using anyone in that type of relationship. It’s 2022 bro.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/22 11:27 AM
10

Cold approaching is not the best option for many types of men. Here's why: Some men are attractive and can get a partner by just being present or get many matches in online dating. Life is easy and they will never have to approach women for 20+ more years. Some men have shit going on for themselves; Nice body, financial security, good status, quality friend groups. Although not as blessed as number 1 these guys are secure as well and can get chicks with minimal game. Some men have game and minds…
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:59 AM
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Had a similar situation happen to me. Was kinda scared of real life interaction with a girl that I liked from my dance group. So I started talking to her on ig, since we had a groupchat with our dance group. Would send her occasional memes and stuff. After some time, we also started vibing irl and I was much more comfortable around her since we talked and danced all the time. In the end, we hooked up for a month or two then she got a bf but we're still chill.
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:46 AM
9

Nice basic advice, however not true entirely. Confidence is actually determined very much by external achievements as well as internal drive. You simply can not expect a person who has never been loved, or who has never had a girlfriend to be confident in approaching women. That is reality. He can't simply love himself, and start pulling chicks. He needs to learn, apply and gain experience. Experience = Confidence
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:36 AM
2

It's not that deep man. I've done urban dancing and folklore dancing for 2-3 years before. When partnering happens, if you're new (generally) they assign you partners so you don't have to worry about being left out. If they don't, you can get nervous and get picked slower than others 1-2 times, but after your 2nd time going there it's smooth sailing.
/r/seduction29/06/22 03:19 AM
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Not OP, but I think I can answer some of your questions. Why go to strip clubs or get escorts when you can talk to actual human beings and get them to desire you and have real fun instead of paying for vagina. If a 9-10/10 girl is cheating, her boyfriend is either a dick or a cuck; or she's a habitual cheater. Either way, OP wins.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/22 03:13 AM
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Bro, as a 5'10 white passing skinny boy, I'm deeply shaken to my cores rn ahahahahah
/r/TheRedPill29/06/22 03:10 AM
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From talking to some of my female friends, top problems they mentioned were: Random harassment on the street (they generally say catcalling is tolerable but some people stare creepily and/or try to touch them.), having a hard time finding men who commit after they hit 35+ age (my aunt is a prime example), work related issues in tech, sales, management etc. ​ On the other hand, my female friends in college literally get people offering them to be their financial slave on Tinder. And one of my gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:25 PM
2

What are some of those more effective ways? One time I had a girl in my neighbourhood that I followed on insta and instead of messaging her I started hanging out with one of her male friends and soon enough I was in their friend group and IG Group Chat. So it was easy after that. Are you talking about stuff like that?
/r/seduction20/06/22 01:08 PM
0

Great take
/r/seduction16/06/22 09:30 PM
1

If you’re looking for someone to spend your life with, and someone you can trust; paying won’t be able to give you that. But if you’re just okay with physical affection, sure go ahead. Also, USA has a shitty dating culture from what I observe. I’m literally an average Turkish guy living in Italy and it has been easy for me to find a gf and have a stable, cute relationship. I’m a student, who has no income other than scholarships and average incomed parents. I’m not exceptionally handsome and I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:31 PM
1

I mean it goes both ways. She might be fucking Spaniard dudes while she's abroad but remember that you're not in a relationship with her rn. Go meet other girls, explore your options more and when she returns, you can talk about this stuff and build a healthy relationship.
/r/TheRedPill18/05/22 04:49 PM
2

Maybe you have a smelly mouth lol
/r/seduction21/04/22 01:23 PM
7

I was a teenager in HS, had zero game, zero experience with women and mainstream advice for flirting and dating were super shitty. I thought Redpill was the answer back then and to be honest, it did give me a little confidence boost: I started going to the gym, talking to girls more often, scored a few dates and some short relationships. But, I quickly saw that the mindset , the whole “maintaining the frame” thing, their views against women were red flags so I quit indulging in their content. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:27 PM
1

No. No. Yes. If occasionally, yes; if regularly no. No. Any other questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:29 AM
1

All those reels, stupid stories, influencers and stuff you are not missing out on. But it has some networking, advertisement (especially if you're good looking and have some good pictures) benefits. What I do is, I have an account that I upload pictures on every 3-4 months. I only use it for that and messaging my friends/dates.
/r/seduction08/03/22 09:54 AM
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Eh, I've been in the Bay area for a year and I'm a bisex. I currently live in Italy. So I've had multiple experiences with both genders in america and europe. It's not only your women that's the problem, it's your men too. Pump and dump culture, hookup culture is so prevalent in USA, I think it's become a problem. As soon as you think of settling with someone, you or them find a sexier, funnier version of them easily in tinder,bumble, real life etc. and since it's only been a hookup, you can eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:02 AM
30

Confirmation bias. No one writes about their good relationships, it's the bad ones that stick out and you need to vent about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:05 AM
2

You can only stop caring if you actually stop caring. Move on.
/r/seduction27/02/22 09:09 AM
11

Very well written and the topics you introduce are non-toxic, very parallel to self-improvement and productive. I have some questions and I would like to dm you if that is okay.
/r/TheRedPill15/11/21 06:34 PM
0

non-important. not a virgin so don't expect my future wife to be a virgin either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 10:24 PM
1

Alright, I agree to disagree then stranger. Take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:22 PM
4

You're generalising a whole gender. A grown man with common sense will respect a woman who asks them out and vice versa. If a woman asks me out, I feel gratitude and try to get to know them since generally I'm the one who ask people out. It surely feels good to be on the receiving end rather than the delivering but that doesn't make me feel like I'm "superior".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:54 PM
4

Not a woman but I care about my image and how I look with others too. It's just a way of presenting yourself to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 10:49 AM
3

Pretty good answer, I'm a hetero guy but I would probably choose Brad too because of the exact same reasons. Micheal sounds great too but Brad just comes natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 01:57 AM
1

Fuck...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:45 AM
1

Shaming men is not the way to go for Women Empowerment.
/r/MGTOW210/06/21 12:31 PM
2

Point is, why would any normal adult try to push past their partner's kindness boundary at all? Wouldn't that just show they're an entitled bitch and have just as much negative impact on them? Well the thing is some people are assholes and do this shit without no reason. Because of these asshole men/women, Red pill people are more paranoid about shit tests and can even refuse actual reasonable requests like holding bags temporarily while your partner goes to the bathroom in fear that it is a shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 10:43 AM
9

It's generally instictive in my experience. The woman will see how far a man will go for her in terms of kindness and when the man starts bending over, the woman will see him needy and wimpy and will distance from the man. Of course the opposite could happen as well (A man doing shit tests.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 12:27 PM
7

LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:31 PM
8

Based and alignmentpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 12:09 PM
1

I learned that the person you imagine in your head is not the same with the person in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:35 PM
5

It's a blessing and a curse. I would love to be the 15 year old me believing that the world is a big disneyland and you'll get the girl if you love her genuinely.
/r/MGTOW08/08/20 07:52 AM
2

Why would redpill be only for white men lol?
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 09:51 PM
12

I'm sorry for that dude but happy to find an MGTOW in my country. Hit me up if you wanna chat.
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 12:28 PM
3

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/r/MGTOW20/06/20 01:28 PM
1

Eh, IF I marry (and that is a big IF) I'll marry someone who's as financially powerful as I am and who is ok with keeping money separate. Even if the marriage gets fucked up, at least I don't drown in debt for the rest of my life.
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 05:32 PM
2

You don't know your wife until she's divorcing you. Exactly.
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 05:31 PM
1

The audacity lol. This guy is so manipulated he NEEDS TO ask reddit if he is the Asshole or not.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 02:21 PM
40

I mean, there are awesome women out there. It's just that women are so good at acting/manipulation, you don't really see who's real and who's not before you marry them and after you marry them it's over unless you have a prenup
/r/MGTOW219/06/20 06:46 AM
3

Dude, please go to the drive-thru she works at and record it.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 06:29 PM
1

Based action
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 08:03 AM
1

As long as they don't deem me a transphobic person for not fucking them, I don't care.
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 08:23 AM
1

You're a strong man bro. I had a similar situation with one girl and I don't know if I could take three rejections. I'm recovering from the situation as you are. Good luck on your journey.
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 02:55 PM
2

Betabuxxing at its finest.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 08:07 PM
27

Don't even know you but I'm so happy for you bro. Keep doing the shit you find important and keep going your own way.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 05:27 PM
3

nice will check it out
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 12:02 PM
1

Bro sometimes lying is better. Just say something like I don't have a dick and no women will marry me for that and you are currently discriminating against me. You'll see how quick they shut the fuck up.
/r/MGTOW201/06/20 07:28 AM
5

PSL is a sequence of internet communities where people discuss Looks theory, Looksmaxxing, and Redpill ​ edit: Most of these guys are really harsh in rating and will give actual models 7.5-8.0 you can find them in r/truerateme
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:02 PM
2

Well, I knew some honest PSL raters, and when I asked them to rate me the average I got was around 6.5. I think it's great because PSL raters don't really go easy. I'm also 5'9.5 in terms of height and I have a medium frame. Just an ordinary white guy even though I hate to say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 08:37 PM
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