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Well I'm out.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 04:23 AM
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To be clear--I did not say that I think most men are sexist and immature. I asked how you'd feel if I said that they were. I happen to believe that most people are sexist to a degree. Some much more so than others. I am willing to admit that people have weaknesses. I have weaknesses. I am okay with the idea that men are better at some things and women are better at some things. It seems that you have a strong bias against women (sexist, immature, childish, overly emotional, abusive). My example …
/r/MensRights03/10/12 02:40 AM
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You said the majority of women are sexist and immature. Me being a women, that means the odds are stacked against me. How would it feel if I said most men are sexist and immature? Not good probably. If you are trying to fix the problem, you are going about it the wrong way.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 09:51 PM
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Wow. You just told me how much I suck because I'm a woman and I'm the sexist?
/r/MensRights02/10/12 09:12 PM
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I totally agree. The BDSM community generally hates that book, myself included (and did you know there's 3 of them?!). Haha.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 09:08 PM
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This kind of statement is doing harm to the movement which you support. It seems to come from a place of hurt, but I encourage you to be careful with these generalizations.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 12:57 PM
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I would have to disagree that men are generally taught to treat women well. In some ways by certain sources, yes. But by popular media often men are given the message that women can be treated any way necessary to get sex and avoid relating to them (ex: what would you do for a klondike bar? Listen to your wife for 5 seconds). And women are not always given the message to treat men badly. Your statement has some truth, just quite exaggerated. And I would agree with the second part about who pays …
/r/MensRights02/10/12 12:54 PM
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As a woman, I enjoy a laugh looking at the cover in the grocery store. I love how every one there are new tips to wow him in bed. I mean seriously, there are only so many things right. How could anyone tolerate that shit! This post is one of I'm sure endless examples of how horrible it is. Recently they came out with one because of the whole 50 Shades fad, that sounded like telling women to surprise their man with BDSM. Pretty fucked up shit. Though it's not as if their aren't examples of simila…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 12:49 PM
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I agree. We should help people learn the ways to reduce their risk, maybe in schools and other appropriate venues to reach as many as possible. We need to teach prevention to males and females with consideration that anyone can be a survivor and anyone can be prepeprator.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 10:31 PM
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There are ways to reduce the chance of being raped. But telling a victim these ways which may or may not have prevented it (what if he just kept going and it ended up being more traumatic for her realizing he would not stop?) after the fact is harmful.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 10:03 PM
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Please be careful with this argument. It is explicitly blaming the victim. Have you heard of the flight/fight response? Most have. But there is also a "freeze" response (whether in this case or not) which is quite common. How could she have known what he intended to do? And even if she had, this is not a relevant factor in the blame. Survivors who have fought back are also at risk for a physical attack (I've seen this in a client). Sometimes remaining "passive" is a way to distance/detach from t…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 09:49 PM
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I'm so sorry you had that experience and for the victim blaming from others and self-blame you experienced. Absolutely he was completely in the wrong. Rapes that involve consent for other acts (for oral in this case) are often not viewed as "real rape." People believe in the mentality that "one thing led to another" and may assume that was the case. I'm glad though that you seem to have coped well. Thank you for sharing your story--it is a very important one.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 09:40 PM
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I'm sure that I don't know, but I'm very sorry that you are so able to personally relate to this.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 09:49 PM
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Thanks. Unfortunately there are unethical people in every profession. But social workers (and others) are in a position to do huge damage to others who they are supposed to help.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 09:10 PM
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Definitely revoke license, if she had one.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 07:47 PM
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As a social worker, this is incredibly sad. The damage done to that already especially vulnerable child is hard to measure. No matter the age or sex of the client or social worker, the social worker has an ethical responsibility to not engage in any non-professional relationship. In the States, there is also legal responsibility.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 06:34 PM
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That's true, he did stop. However, I had to repeat it as he continued for a minute and still didn't get it. Later I sent my mom after him, haha, finally that did it. Both of us were polite to him. Actually he had said inappropriate things to my mom as well about her legs. Guess he casts a wide net. Anyway, my story is only one. Of course men are made to feel uncomfortable too, and I recognize that their discomfort is often belittled. That needs to change.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 02:56 AM
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I wasn't thinking it was common at all, just a possibility. If boys and men are okay without stalls, then who am I to say anything.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 04:56 PM
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I guess I get that. But aren't there stories of men looking at other men's/boys penises in restrooms? Just seems that could be helped easily. To answer your question: it depends on a few factors. Familiarity with the person, the cleanliness of the stalls, if I think I might fart/poop, etc. Sometimes I don't space because I just don't care.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 04:36 PM
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Oh god, I can't imagine having no door. I think I'd just not drink anything all day. I don't even like when someone walks past the door and you can see them.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 04:21 PM
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I just think about all the "rules" for urinals men talk about, and it seems like those are there to reduce the awkwardness/anxiety that would be there without said rules. Like "ok that guy just came in but everything is cool cuz he left a urinal space between us." I don't know, I'm a women, just curious. Thanks for your answer.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 04:00 PM
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I have a question for the men: how do you feel about urinals being all exposed? Ive thought about this and there is no logical reason at all for this, other than saving money on putting stalls around them.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 03:47 PM
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That's true. Hopefully I don't become a creepy old lady. Lol.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 03:35 PM
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I get what you're saying. But the age thing always creeped me out. I also look younger than I am. Age bracket peeps.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 04:08 AM
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As a woman, I enjoy when I can turn a head. As a bi lady, I do my fair share of looking at both. But I will say, I've felt uncomfortable many times with certain men looking/staring. And I get annoyed by "cat calling." Specifically, an older male neighbor (40-50; I'm 24) used to stare and say inappropriate things until I very firmly told him to stop. I feel uncomfortable coming and going from my own home now, which kind of sucks. Looking okay. Staring/commenting not okay, especially with a big ag…
/r/MensRights25/09/12 02:06 AM
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That makes sense. I know a Danish girl whose mom got money from the govt rather than from the father. I think this is a good measure but the problem of unplanned pregnancy needs more attention. Governments often ignore the fact that healthy, happy citizens are in their best interests.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 06:07 PM
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I was thinking about the child support issue too. I mean if she was going to have an abortion if not for the other option, then I don't think she ought to have to pay. Yet a man would still have to pay if he wanted an abortion and she didn't. This I find interesting because in the past I viewed child support as his responsibility, but when the tables have turned it starts to not make sense. I'm also extremely pro-choice, as in we need to be pushing all methods of birth control more. Too many peo…
/r/MensRights24/09/12 01:46 PM
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I think that artificial wombs would actually be really good for women (woman here). They wouldn't have to go through the unbridled suffering of pregnancy and birth. I might actually consider having a child if this was possible. Also, for men who don't want their baby aborted, this might allow them to demand a transplant in place of an abortion and they could raise their child on their own. I mean think of the benefit to a women's career if she didn't carry a child. Also I feel like it could equa…
/r/MensRights24/09/12 01:05 PM
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They don't seem too fun, but dental dams are an option if you want to be safe.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 08:55 PM
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Thank you for that. I've seen boys and men trashed for not fitting into what I call the "man box"--I saw it on a commercial once. I'm also a big proponent of gay rights, for gay men their sexuality almost strips them of their gender. Let alone the struggles of transgendered men and women between genders.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 11:16 PM
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For me my difficulty with being weak was related to my feeling of powerless in my family with my brother's and father's short tenpers and witnessing the powerlessness of my mother. I have worked to come to terms with it. Along with that I heard how women were stupid sluts from my brother and how men were jerks from my mom. This is my personal experience, so it hits a nerve with me to be reminded of it.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:48 PM
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I spent many years struggling with the fact that as a woman I'm weaker. That's why I said I once hated and envied men. I don't think there is too much more to be had of this conversation. Women aren't made to fight, men have been and still are or might be. Checkmate.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:25 PM
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Speaking for the USA, we don't require anyone to go to war. Many other countries around the world are the same. Not all. No, women are physically weaker than men but we are still capable of serving in many regards even combat. Many do. Also, I found this article about the third point. http://www.e-ir.info/2012/01/19/men-and-womens-support-for-war-accounting-for-the-gender-gap-in-public-opinion/
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:01 PM
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Men and women now serve in the military in many countries without being forced to as I understand it. I believe women in the military is due to being socialized differently now. I believe women are less likely to vote for wars in the first place. But no, not many women fought for the right to join the military.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 09:33 PM
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Most of what I've thought about as being sad parts of the past and present, I haven't put a gender to if it was mostly men who struggled with it. I'm trying. Anyway, I will continue to think its sad that women were not allowed to vote. And of course women had responsibility, to their families and children at least if not their paid jobs.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 08:41 PM
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I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. It shouldnt be that way and I never said it should be. Standard of proof should be high.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 07:06 PM
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I'm managing, but thanks. I've long understood that men have problems. r/MR has helped me to see more of these problems, though its seems that many of my previous beliefs work with those on here. Maybe not perfectly, but then this would be a boring and much shorter post. Lol.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 06:55 PM
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I consider boys and men to be included in families. I'm talking about things like good, affordable child care and housing, education, universal health care, and yes services for the poor and homeless.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 06:49 PM
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I think you make some good points. Debtors prison is not defensible. Though I'm not sure where your numbers come from. I'd agree that the prison pop needs to be dramatically reduced. I see the drug war as a huge part of over prison crowding. That and the failing of the US to take care of its young people and families so they turn to crime.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 06:21 PM
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I'd have to agree with these things. As a social worker, obviously I'm not that concerned with money primarily. I value regular, perhaps flexible hours, close to home, with a good boss and coworkers. I grew up in a traditional family and I really missed out on having my dad involved in my life. It seems a recipe for mental and physical pain when men lead these unbalanced lives, encouraged to hide their feelings and anxieties.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:59 PM
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It's okay. This post has been very sexual assault focused it seems, and now getting weary from the debate. I'll give it to you that more men die in wars, probably especially poorer, more vulnerable men at that. War ravages countries. I'm a bit of a pacifist myself, though I struggle with it
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:52 PM
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No one is ever gonna say that war isn't bad for people in the military. As someone concerned with trauma generally, not just sexual assault trauma, I am deeply saddened by the men and women who die in combat, are wounded, suffer extreme psychological pain, and even choose suicide to escape. It's horrible. I don't get why you think I'm trying to lessen that by saying that people not in combat (including women) also suffer and die. Also, women in some countries may be disowned or even killed for b…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:42 PM
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Thanks for the information.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:31 PM
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Well, of course they ought to a penalty for calling rape when one didn't happen to bring some kind of benefit to the accuser. That's a no-brainer if you ask me. I'm going to have to strongly disagree that the process of reporting is not very difficult. Clearly, you have never been raped and so can not imagine the emotional toll that a trial is for survivors. Often cases are dismissed, which sends the message to survivors that they weren't believed and can be crushing. If the case does go to tria…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:27 PM
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I wouldn't agree that it is mostly men at the bottom (poverty). http://www.statehealthfacts.org/profileind.jsp?ind=12&rgn=1&cat=1 Though incarceration is definitely higher for men, it is increasing faster for women than men. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/national/24prison.html Also, single mom families are most likely to live in poverty. http://www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/ I will agree though that women are more likely to be protected in some ways. Definitely given the benefit of the doubt leg…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 05:01 PM
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Where will it be?
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:49 PM
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Wow, this argument seems pretty messed up. Why compare them at all?
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:49 PM
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No, if a person consents (and that consent is true consent, not coersed) to have sex then it can't be considered rape. There can still be emotional pain from sex, so they should get help if they want to.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:47 PM
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Certainly it should be required that insurance cover birth control. Not necessarily free. But isn't it also good for men if women are using birth control? Unwanted children, now that's a tragedy. This is somewhat related, but I also think that men's sexuality should be protected the ways women sexuality is. For example, what's up with public bathrooms? I think it's absolutely ridiculous that they can't even put up a wall between urinals. I've had agreement and disagreement from men on this issue…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 02:06 PM
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I'm agreeing with you completely. I think it's wrong, unjust. We're on the same side friend. Additionally, as an atheist, I disagree with a practice that has no reasoning other than religious.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:56 PM
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I think there are a lot of factors, some of which you mentioned, which account for why over a lifetime women make less than men. A large part of it, as you mentioned, is that women typically take on the majority of the responsibility for children while men focus more completely on work. If a child is sick at school and both parents work, likely it is the mother who gets the call and takes off. Unfortunately, decent, affordable day care is hard to find for many families and this puts more burden …
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:48 PM
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I take offense to the statement that modern women don't care about pleasing their partners while men deeply care. I don't see how this is the case, and I think it sound more like demonizing women in response to feeling demonized by them. I can't imagine the studies that prove that women don't care to please their husbands.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:25 PM
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I didn't know about that before yesterday, so thanks for sharing that piece of information. Tragically, prison rape is a serious problem. I actually have a male relative who is in prison. In America especially, we really love to imprison people. We love it so much we come up with great slogans for it like "tough on crime." Imprisoning so many people, especially men, especially minority men, hurts our society as a whole. Treating criminals like worthless animals. As a social worker, I see the pri…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 01:06 PM
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I think there is an argument to be made for slitting responsibilities 50/50 on child/home care and earning income. Though in that situation fathers are not able to participate much in their children's lives, which I think is a big loss for everyone. I see staying home with children in a very negative light for many reasons (because I don't like kids, I value my career, and I fear being dependent). But, yes, some women love it and great for them. There is a lot that comes with having a job outsid…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:54 PM
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Why is it that saying it's sad that women couldn't vote (and who knows what they might have voted for) is taken as such an attack? I'm trying to look at ways that men have struggled historically and presently. Perhaps a more helpful tone would help with converts? Of course, dying in wars and factories is horrible, even if not force which is war.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:38 PM
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Cool story. I think I'll look into egalitarianism. Though I am an atheist as well so that part fits anyway.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:26 PM
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War is bad for people in general, where they are fighting or not. Women also face different consequences of war then men sometimes. Rape and war unfortunately come together often, not that rape is the only consequence for war. But I don't think I've ever said war is worse for women. I see war as traumatic all around. EDIT: added "don't" to the last sentence. Oops
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:24 PM
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What do you mean the motives involved? Is it really any more than any other crime? Certainly there are also negatives to reporting, in fact quite a few, which is why so many people don't report.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:18 PM
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Thanks!
/r/MensRights12/09/12 12:15 PM
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Part of my disagreement about circumcision is that it has religious roots. We love to cut in America compared to many other nations. I can't imagine how I'd feel if even a tiny piece of my genitals was removed.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:06 AM
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I absolutely think that we have to target male and female survivors. Organizations for survivors have often left men out. I think this is slowly starting to change. Men who go on a website looking for help and read only about women's experiences, are lightly to turn away. That is a huge disservice.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 04:00 AM
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Yes, it is also true that women in countries at war are at risk for rape by their own as well as other soldiers. Women are victims of war too. I was hoping to reach out to you all. War hurts people. All people. I feel we have a lot in common, probably a lot more than we disagree on. I think you all are tired of being treated like the bad guys, like you are given everything because you're male. That's a shitty feeling.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:56 AM
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I sure hope so. Wouldn't it be great if men and women for gender equality could work together against those who advocate for the continuation of traditional gender roles and status quo. A woman in a world with decent, affordable daycare, housing, and insurance and 50/50 child custody would hopefully be less likely to want alimony. Men who felt more able to express their feelings might develop stronger relationships with their children and work fewer hours because their spouse also works. Paterni…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:47 AM
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Ouch. If I don't meet your criteria for a decent person, then I imagine your list of indecent people is pretty damn long.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:35 AM
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No wage gap? Can you direct me to a source on this? I'm pretty surprised that I've never hears this was undetermined.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:27 AM
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I'm against male circumcision/mutilation. I don't think we have the right to alter a person's body without their consent. I've said this to men who have strongly disagreed (who were circumsized). Interesting how we defend the injustices committed against us.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:25 AM
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I was not trying to say that benevolent sexism is ok. Sexism is sexism. Actually, benevolent sexism can be very dangerous because it is written off as chivalry.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:22 AM
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I agree that when we add reality into a definition of rape, it becomes more complicated, like your example of a person with a developmental disorder. For a person without such a limitation though, I think telling non-consent becomes easier. Though maybe not in every case. Silence is not consent for sure though. It is important for both partners to be actively engaged, there is a danger in passivity. Still it is everyone's responsibility to ensure consent or face the consequences. For some people…
/r/MensRights12/09/12 03:14 AM
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Okay, one more. Lol. Actually there was one time (at least) where I could have very easily raped a man. The man I was dating was very shy and passive, and I came on to him to have sex. He said "okay" but his body language and voice clearly said "no." And I stopped. Told him I'd wait as long as he wanted. My point is, if you are looking for the signs that say "no" you will probably find them if the person isn't consenting. Just like someone is innocent until proven guilty, someone is no consentin…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:52 PM
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Thank you for your nice comment.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:32 PM
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I would agree with you that women are not the most oppressed. There are many segments of society that we choose to hate, fear, or generally oppress. One of the topics I'm most interested in is legal oppression of men, never heard about this. And some of it makes sense. I mean, especially with regards to children. Ex: I can always have an abortion, but it isn't so easy so men who don't want the child. And yes, I am very free. I love it. I'm also white and have many other advantages that I enjoy s…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:32 PM
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Also, based on the source in your comment, it seems the rate of false accusations is more like 2-8%. I will say, though, that a person's life can be ruined by such a thing, so we must take care to avoid convictions of innocent people.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:26 PM
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I've never heard the word "murder culture" but I will say this, the USA (where I live--oops, I should have probably made that clear from the start) is a pretty violent society. I will agree with you the rape/abuse is probably the most reviled crime. That ties into why we treat sex offenders so poorly. I'm only speaking from my experience at the Sexual Assault Center, but reporting was low. The typical response from people is denial. You can work for months or years with survivors over their guil…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:22 PM
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I think that the feminist movement has done some great things. I can vote, get an equal education, get equal pay for whatever job I want (might have to sue for it, though), I can have an abortion, get a divorce. I think there is more work to be done to help women. The men's rights movement (as far as I know) is very recent and is working to create equality for the other half of the population now. I say I want to call myself a Humanist for two reasons: I'm atheist anyway and I want one word to s…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:08 PM
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Thank you for the advice and welcome.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 11:00 PM
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I brought up the past because SkyrimNewb mentioned women being protected by staying at home. I get that it's in the past. Though it's sad that it took so long for women's suffrage.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:59 PM
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If I may share an anecdote. My ex-boyfriend's father frequently made comments such as "You (my bf) have a Y chromosome, so you're always wrong." I hated those comments. It annoyed me when my ex would act in that way. Also, in light of how bad of a husband he was to his wife who was also quite shitty, it became very bothersome. I found it extremely condescending and dishonest. A man with the backbone to converse with me on a real level is very attractive. I am curious about learning more about th…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:54 PM
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By the way, a good resources for male survivors: Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP)--has been very successful at reaching out to male survivors. What I mean by rape culture (which for me includes all varieties of rape as well as sexual abuse of minors) is that 1) Sexual assault (a broader category which includes rape) and abuse are very common. In fact, if I'm being honest. I was raped about 3 years ago by a friend of my ex-bf. Also, several of my closest friends have told me ab…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:40 PM
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Yes, women were kept safe at home. Poor women often didn't have the option to stay home though. I don't think it's fair to say that women weren't oppressed. They were treated as mentally inferior and often denied an education and a voice. I can't speak for what women wanted then. Though I know I intend to work through to retirement. I get a lot of satisfaction from work and I would not want to stay at home. This feels like arguing over whether it would have been worse to be a house slave or a fi…
/r/MensRights11/09/12 10:00 PM
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That is not my experience with feminism. In some cases yes. But in my education (I was a psych major, gender minor) we discussed men's issues. Though I admit women's issues were given much more time. My favorite professor was a very feminist woman who focused on both sexes.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 09:49 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/MensRights11/09/12 09:18 PM
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I see what you mean about Me saying women have been "more oppressed." Actually, today I read something on here that I hadn't really thought of--that men were forced into wars and to work in dangerous conditions and still are around the world. I get defensive about this issue. And I'm still figuring it out.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 09:09 PM
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Well thanks for the thanks :). Glad you heard me out. There is a lot of pressure on men's shoulders without any acknowledgement.
/r/MensRights11/09/12 08:47 PM
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