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Social IssuesZ0mb13z_0f_54nd/r/MensRights23/03/22 02:13 AM
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Z0mb13z_0f_54nd/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 08:15 PM
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No, women are afraid to walk home at night because they fear for their safety. Same with men. For women, this fear localizes on their sexuality. For men, it localizes on their overall physical safety. Also, it's insane to me that you're making the argument one person's trauma is more traumatic and long lasting than another's. How insensitive can you really be? My brother was mugged FOURTEEN years ago, and he still struggles with it fuck face. Nobody should be raped OR mugged, but to say to someo…
/r/MensRights02/09/23 09:50 PM
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Okay, first: PREA exists for a reason. Second, I'm afraid for my life and my safety walking home alone at night. You're saying my "privilege" is simply that my fear isn't localized to my sexuality? Really struggling to see how this is a privilege.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 09:18 PM
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Not sure why you're being down voted as you simply answered the question. I might not agree with the points you made, but I think they're reasonable points to make and kind of exactly what OP was asking for. If you're going to talk about this stuff with people, you will almost certainly hear ALL of these points in one form or another so this list is super helpful. Thanks!
/r/MensRights02/09/23 09:00 PM
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It's not based on gender. It's based on your experiences. Plenty of dudes are just as afraid to walk home at night. Though, we don't have the privilege of being able to speak about it without being ridiculed.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 08:47 PM
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I'm a man, 6'1, reasonably in shape and capable of defending myself and I DEFINTIELY have this fear. Wtf are you even talking about?
/r/MensRights02/09/23 08:46 PM
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I agree, biologically, it's probably easier being a man.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 08:30 PM
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Let's not forget selective service!
/r/MensRights02/09/23 08:29 PM
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Long way to go for that one, son.
/r/MensRights29/05/23 01:46 AM
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My initial feelings, too. "Conviction" is a specific type of sentencing so taking a plea deal might not be the same as a conviction. Most charges for all crimes are settled outside of court with some plea deal in place.
/r/MensRights28/05/23 02:50 AM
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It's a common claim. Not looking to prove or disprove, but validate and understand.
/r/MensRights28/05/23 02:47 AM
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I was responding to your "Women are objectified way more than men" comment. It's not true. Women are sexually objectified way more than men. You moved to goal post. I just took the shot anyway. And I'm also not sure we can say what OP wanted.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:45 AM
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Women are objectified sexually far more than men, i agree. However, men are objectified in an equitable fashion for their success, economic attractiveness, competency, and social status. Unsuccessful men are humiliated by our culture. We've made them the object of our ridicule and feel justified in doing so on the virtue that men have all the privilege, success is easily attained by them, and they it's only ever their fault when they fail. It's much more acceptable to shame a man for being a los…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:16 AM
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Homelessness rates for men are VASTLY greater than those for women. Don't forget there are virtually NO men's homeless shelters. Can't say the same for women.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 11:56 PM
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Not to mention the fact that this statement is pure projection. She's assuming that he feels the way about women that she feels about men, but that's probably none of my business ☕️
/r/MensRights16/10/22 12:12 AM
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What GlitteringDebate said is pretty accurate. Yes, all humans are inherently valuable regardless of gender, but women are born with more of their value actualized because they're the ones who bear the burden of reproduction. I had this thought in the few seconds after my daughter was born: "Oh, I get it, all of civilization is men's attempt to produce something as miraculous and meaningful as child birth. We'll never succeed. We're not even close." It's not that men aren't valuable, but it's th…
/r/MensRights07/10/22 11:26 AM
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1) where did feminism go wrong? Hmm... it's tough to say but I think if it went wrong anywhere, it was that, in the pursuit of gender "equity" the traditional feminine roles have been banished for women. Women who only want to raise families, be homemakers, or find a man to support them are viewed as "less than" the "strong and independent" types who work in competitive fields, put off starting families, or who earn enough money to be self reliant. Not that there's anything wrong with women who …
/r/MensRights06/10/22 02:29 AM
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My old director used to tell a story about the first time a man actually hugged him. Like, he literally couldn't understand the gesture and spent weeks agonizing over hidden intentions and motivations. Took him a while before he could accept platonic affection from another man. Still struggles with it sometimes.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 06:36 PM
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This.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 02:52 PM
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I got banned 3 hours after I found it lol
/r/MensRights01/08/22 01:09 AM
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Plus, she needs therapy. She's no where near healthy enough for a stable, healthy relationship.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 02:17 AM
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Leave her. Not because she's stupid, mysandrist, or incapable of loving you, but because she needs to go to therapy to fully process her trauma. As long as she's with you, she won't be able to process her grief and will inevitably make you a target for her unconscious rage. It can only end badly for you.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 02:14 AM
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Thanks! I was inspired by the nuanced and measured approach of your comment <3
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:35 PM
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Don't be a cunt.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:08 PM
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But what are you mentally, emotionally, physically, financially and spiritually building yourself up to or for? Because for many of us, this is our only salvation. You're not doing it to become more attractive to women (though, that is a side effect), you're doing it to reclaim your personal power and live life on your terms. Society has conditioned most men to believe a wife and family is the ultimate expression of happiness: it isn't. Agree 100%. what good that is I don't know as human beings …
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:27 AM
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I know, right? How dare he have the wrong feelings!
/r/MensRights28/06/22 03:00 AM
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No, because when the world literally does burn down around them, they'd blame us for leaving. The only way to win is to ignore their nonsense and focus on building yourself up mentally, emotionally, physically, financially, and spiritually. You have to be the focal point of your experience. You can't make women, politics, or whatever else into an excuse to avoid taking responsibility for your own life. I get where you're coming from, tho. It's satisfying to think about the revelation they'd once…
/r/MensRights28/06/22 02:58 AM
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This. I've done this for my entire life and never once had an issue.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 10:05 PM
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This is the kind of support men need. I totally missed the blatant double standard if the genders were reversed. I guess that's internalized misandry?
/r/MensRights05/06/22 05:19 PM
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Always loved the point in Inglorious Basterds about knowing "who your Nazis are." None of this stuff should be banned because all you do is drive your Nazis into hiding.
/r/MensRights28/05/22 04:34 PM
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I think that feminist arguments and logic always meet the standards expected of them. If that isn't the freaking truth. I mean, it's insane to me, tbh. I'm all for equal rights and equal opportunity, but the whole feminist narrative is not only inconsistent and dangerous for men AND women, it's born from a perception of reality that bears no resemblance to actual reality. The slogans like "women make 78 cents for every dollar a man makes!" And "1 in 5 women are victims of SA on college campus!" …
/r/MensRights24/05/22 01:59 PM
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Women are supposed to drop everything, including the uphill battle of fighting for the rights of women, in order to center men and prevent their suicides. And then, in the same breath: A suicidal man is simply more dangerous than a suicidal woman because he is far more likely to kill someone else when he kills himself. By this logic, preventing male suicides prevents male violence, and by extension, violence against women. Her argument is so incoherent it hurts, and the fact that this nonsense w…
/r/MensRights23/05/22 11:43 PM
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And still sentenced to 5+ years in prison with $10k+ in bail/fines.
/r/MensRights22/05/22 02:16 PM
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We absolutely do not blame the women for dating a drug dealer. She's now a "strong independent single mom who can do anything she wants and should never settle." Our society praises her and villifies the man. In no way shape or form do we hold women accountable for their poor decisions.
/r/MensRights15/05/22 09:05 PM
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It's not so much on the girls individually, but our culture adamantly reinforces that type of behavior. She's 100% a predator, and your argument is akin to the "he was asking for it." line.
/r/MensRights15/05/22 06:50 PM
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Dude is 24 years old. His brain isn't even fully developed yet. Even IF his family was stable enough to recognize what was going on, would you have listened to them tell you that the woman you're in love with is only after your money? Unlikely.
/r/MensRights15/05/22 06:45 PM
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Wow, that sucks man, I'm sorry. I would argue that misogyny is the specter feminists use to propagate misandry. There are very clear signs of misandry, such as your situation, but it's not the same for misogyny. I can't point to any blatant misogyny in my experience, but I could fill a tome with the misandry I've experienced in this year alone.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 11:20 PM
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Yo fr
/r/MensRights10/05/22 10:09 PM
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If you can't support a child financially, then how is getting pregnant a good reproductive choice? I think your logic is suspect, here.
/r/MensRights08/05/22 03:58 PM
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Look into support groups, get a therapist, and start making your own needs a priority. If you need someone to talk to, you can dm me. Can't promise I can help, but I'll at least listen.
/r/MensRights22/04/22 11:18 PM
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They would say "force" if they're young, mentally unstable, and/or English is not their first language. Your argument is leaky at best.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 10:04 PM
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You really can't know that. It's unwise to make assumptions about other people's motives. You'll end up causing unnecessary harm.
/r/MensRights29/03/22 01:16 AM
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Mmm... your therapist shouldn't get angry at you, generally speaking and should never attack you without proper explanations before you leave thag session. Are you sure she was angry and attacking you? There's a difference between that and being firm while telling you something you might not want to hear. It sounds like you need a new therapist either way. As a clinician myself I can't believe she would be so insensitive as to attack you in a place we're you're supposed to be safe to expose your…
/r/MensRights28/03/22 11:54 PM
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Mmm... I don't think you're wrong, but I think your assessment is a little inaccurate. I do agree that generally speaking, the "men need to learn to express their emotions" like is covert for "men need to express their emotions more like women." I also think, genrally speaking, anger and frustration are secondary emotions. They're most often used to cover up pain and vulnerabilities. There's nothing wrong with this, mind you, as long as you're self aware enough to recognize this and don't use th…
/r/MensRights27/03/22 05:15 PM
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Yeah, you got a point. It's mostly about context. Shaming someone usually isn't a valid approach to motivation, but shame is subjective and is determined by the one who feels the shame. Someone may feel ashamed by you telling them they're fat, they need to man up, get to the gym and stop eating junk. But someone else may also feel ashamed if you chose to say "it's okay, you'll figure it out, you're not fat." Etc... if you're saying that because you don't think they can handle the truth. You don'…
/r/MensRights23/03/22 04:59 AM
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This precisely. Other men I've opened up to have usually supported me. Women, for the most part, have not.
/r/MensRights23/03/22 03:04 AM
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I can see where you're coming from. Personally, though, I think "man up" can be more positive than "don't cry." I love being a man. It's fucking hard, though, and there're no free lunches. But overcoming adversity is something men are uniquely tuned for, so whenever I hear "man up" I hear "You can handle this, too." Idk, maybe that's just my personal take on it, and to be fair I've only ever been told that by other men I respect, admire, and trust so that plays a big role in the message.
/r/MensRights23/03/22 03:03 AM
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For real, the comment I just replied to was this exact thing! I've learned I can't be vulnerable with women because they almost always make it about themselves, and what's more, blame me for making them feel bad. Like, tf you want me to be honest with you or not??
/r/MensRights23/03/22 02:51 AM
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What's even weirder is I've never been vulnerable around another man and felt unsafe. Whenever I try to express my vulnerabilities with women, tho, I end up being attacked, criticized, shamed, and blamed for "not taking their feelings into consideration." Like, tf? How is it that all the men in my life are ultra supportive, but when I try to open up to my wife it's a metaphorical blood bath? I've learned I can actually trust other men with my vulnerabilities, but women, no matter how much they s…
/r/MensRights23/03/22 02:48 AM
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Women who work spend about an hour more on house chores a week than men do according to your survey. Men work on average about 7 hours more per week than women do. This is another gap that doesn't actually exist?
/r/MensRights19/03/22 09:32 PM
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Well, you're also not a women so society doesn't give a fuck about you. I do tho, bud. I hope it gets better for you <3
/r/MensRights19/03/22 09:23 PM
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Do you have proof women "still do most of the housework"? Because it's well documented men work longer hours. The data you have adjusts for this gap in hours worked?
/r/MensRights19/03/22 09:20 PM
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The war worker thing was meant as a temporary measure. They were not forced to keep working after it ended. Your assumptions that 1. women still do most of the house work and childcare and 2. Men and women work the same amount of hours and thus have the same amount of time for household responsibilities.
/r/MensRights19/03/22 08:58 PM
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Even IF this were true, nobody forced women into the work force, right? Actually, didn't women force their way into the work force? Did men agree to pick up the slack? Ijs there are holes in your argument even if its assumptions are correct. Your assumptions are incorrect, however. In most relationships, men work longer hours (which contributes to why men earn more money), and then come home and still devote their time to cleaning, cooking, and childcare. For example: my Dad never cooked a day i…
/r/MensRights19/03/22 08:41 PM
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I don't. I'm also not those things. What else ya got?
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 09:21 PM
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Thanks for the unconditional regard and generosity of interpretation. I know now where I went wrong and how to do better in the future because of your thoughtful and eloquent response! <3
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 09:19 PM
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Things are better since I've adopted a RP mentality and become more rooted in my masculinity. I'm not trying to force anything on anyone. She hasnt expressed wanting to adopt a more RP mentality, but she also doesn't know it exists. And threatening to skin me alive with a spoon, roll me in salt, and lock me out of my house was a pretty clear sign of contempt to me lol
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 09:17 PM
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Thanks, I'll check it out :)
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 09:11 PM
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Be useful? Like a tool is?
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 09:10 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 09:09 PM
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I'm definitely self-centered. I don't care that she's tomboyish, I care that she's healthy and well adjusted.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 09:09 PM
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Cleaning is a skill that is really only possible when you're house is in order. Here's what I would suggest: Read Mario Kondo's "The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up" to begin the process of tidying. It's short, fun, and you can finish it in a few hours. Basically, most people have too many things for their house/home/space to be in order. This makes keeping your home clean nearly impossible. You need to reduce the amount of things you own to a reasonable level, then choose a space for all of y…
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/22 06:03 PM
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Hmm... I didn't actually know that. Still, better than nothing, for sure.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 01:30 PM
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You tell her you'll consider it if she signs a prenup.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 02:47 AM
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I see. You're struggling to set boundaries, not actually with how to be feminine. You won't find the space to heal if you don't carve that space out for yourself, but you can't carve that space out for yourself if you can't set healthy boundaries. What are some things you're helping your friends with? Why do they need your help so often?
/r/RedPillWomen12/03/22 01:47 AM
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Being feminine isn't about smiling all the time or about never being negative. Being human is difficult for everyone. We're all negative, moody, burnt out, and argumentative at times. So the first thing you can do is to stop putting so much pressure on yourself to "be feminine." It's actually already in your nature because you want to be a people pleaser and care for those around you. From what I can tell, you're suffering from burn out, not from not knowing how to be feminine. A change in jobs …
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/22 11:17 PM
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I think there's a narrative out there that goes something like "you should accept yourself just as you are! You need to love yourself!" or something. It has some roots in reality, but it gets misconstrued and often becomes a crutch for people (not just women) to justify their unhealthy behavior. The truth is, if you're uncomfortable with your body, your appearance, or your social status, then that's (probably) a good thing. It means you're getting accurate feedback from the world around you and …
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/22 11:03 PM
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This is excellent advice.
/r/RedPillWomen11/03/22 07:51 PM
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I can appreciate that for sure. It's important to have firm boundaries, though. There's a difference between being kind to someone who is because they're genuinely hurting, and letting someone walk all over you because you're afraid setting boundaries or being honest is going to hurt their feelings. Not that I think you're doing this, but generally it's good advice. Also, congrats on the pregnancy! Hope you have a healthy and happy child! 😊
/r/MensRights11/03/22 03:48 AM
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It kind of blew up in your face a little bit lol I really liked the post but reading some of the comments kind of had the same effect on me as it did on you. I genuinely thought it was a sweet post with good intentions, but the level to which I was misconstrued shocked me a little bit. I thought about it, tho, and I think some of the guys on here responded the way that they did because they're wounded. I work in substance abuse and see this kind of behavior a lot and it's almost always because t…
/r/MensRights11/03/22 03:25 AM
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Aww thanks for this! it was great to read :) I'm glad you took the time to acknowledge all the things your husband does for you and share them with us. It means a lot to me too :) I'm sorry that it seems like a lot of the guys here missed the point of your post, but you're handling it with grace and dignity. Honestly, the way you're being treated here kinda makes me ashamed to be part of this sub. If we as men can't acknowledge the effort others are making for us and instead get bogged down and …
/r/MensRights11/03/22 02:39 AM
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It's marketing since women spend something like 80% of the income in most westernized economies. India isn't exactly "westernized" but they've been trending more that way over the last few decades.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 12:26 AM
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It's subjective and judgemental speech designed to absolve one party of the responsibility of engaging in dialog or holding themselves accountable for their own behavior. It usually goes "You're toxic masculinity is the reason for my bad behavior. You're the problem and because of your toxic masculinity any point you make about me is invalid." Behavior isn't toxic; it's either healthy or unhealthy. When one claims another's behavior is toxic/bad/wrong they're making a subjective and moral judgme…
/r/MensRights07/03/22 11:55 PM
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I like this question a lot because while I don't relate with your experience at all, the point of the question resonates with me. I've been so afraid to set boundaries for myself for so long because of the fear of being labeled as a misogynist, having "toxic masculinity" or simply being seen as an asshole that I lived as a shell of a person letting people walk all over me and pretending to be needless/wantless so as not to offend anyone. This all stems from the idea that masculinity is evil and …
/r/MensRights07/03/22 09:30 PM
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I guess I can't argue with your preference. I'm happy you're happy with whatcha got <3
/r/MensRights03/03/22 04:04 AM
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