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1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists	Discussion	Zachariahmandosa	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 03:31 AM

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2	When hashtag-style snippy feminism kills: Man dies after six hour ambulance delay and being told he had 'man flu' Diagnoses are not made by the paramedic, nurse, X-ray technician, or anybody but a doctor. The paramedic simply refused to do the job correctly, assumed the role of another healthcare position, and somebody died for it. At the very least, he should have his certification/license revoked for malpractice.	/r/MensRights	12/08/15 12:40 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists You are literally ignoring evidence that proves you incorrect. There is nothing more to be said. I have provided evidence that disproves your claim, and you don't even pretend to acknowledge it, you simply repeat the phrase that's echoing around inside your head. There is no arguing with somebody who simply repeats catchphrases.	/r/MensRights	18/02/15 10:27 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Ever heard of Christina Hoff Sommers? She's a feminist, and she fights against feminists and for men on many issues. This is an example of a feminist who doesn't hate men. Examples defeat absolute claims such as the one you're making. You are wrong.	/r/MensRights	18/02/15 10:10 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists According to your logic, MRAs hate women. *It's the way it is. That's false. So is your statement.	/r/MensRights	18/02/15 09:49 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists "MRAs hate women" is something an extremist feminist would say. Don't be an extremist MRA by saying the equivalent.	/r/MensRights	18/02/15 09:22 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Simply by looking through that post, I can learn quite a bit about feminist history, and it's effects. And by looking at it's history, it's ready to see that feminism started as an attempt by women to give women rights that men had. It was by no means an attempt to disadvantage men due to a widespread hatred of men. Any such claims are delusional.	/r/MensRights	18/02/15 05:28 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists I'm fairly certain that the post was more about not judging the ideologies of a movement based on toxic members of that movement? I was right. It is delusional to believe that feminism started as a hate movement.	/r/MensRights	18/02/15 04:49 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Well, this doesn't negate my previous statements, but I genuinely did not know the Duluth model was first created in the 1980s, or that shared parenting has been around that long. I agree with you on that, then, feminism has long had bigoted stances. I don't think that makes the movement as a whole a hate movement, persay, because the movement historically has been about other issues. But it certainly is incriminating. Thank you for posting that.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 08:27 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Feminism is too broad a movement for you to know what sects agree with many of your ideas, and which don't. You're probably thinking of Patriarchy feminists and the like, and I agree that's a factless, rhetoric-based movement. And acting with dignity during all discourse about gender politics will give us a better public face than those who spit rhetoric. The mild-mannered individuals of feminism can very probably be reasoned with.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 08:16 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Actually, it did indeed cause these actions to pass. Your denial of that speaks volumes. How did feminism in the past cause harm to men and women? And I'm kind of agreeing with you on the last bit, but not all feminists are hate-mongerers, not in the same sense that you are. Feminism's public face has turned towards misandry in recent times, though, that's obvious. That doesn't mean that the original statement I claimed was delusional wasn't, because you were trying to distort well-documented hi…	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 08:09 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists I did not make any such confusion between two groups of individuals, as I did not name any groups of first or second wave feminism. The reason I called you sexist is because you're using the term "Whining shrills" to describe women who wanted the right to vote and make equal pay for equal work. How would first and second-wave feminists have helped men? There weren't exactly surveys and data to show that men faced a great deal of discrimination. Now there is, and I'll agree that third-wave femini…	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 07:52 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Have you heard the "bowl of M&Ms" analogy? That 1 in 10 M&Ms are poisoned, so would you grab a handful? In this analogy, the M&Ms are men, the poison is rape. This is the same type of argument you are making. It is a false generalization, and it is illogical.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 07:47 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists You don't think it had anything to do with mass amounts of women and men protesting sexist policies? You seem sexist, rather than somebody who wants gender equality.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 07:16 PM
-1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Feminism is too broad a movement to categorize all of them by one branch's ideology. Many feminists don't believe in Patriarchy theory, or that women are the perpetual oppressed class while men are rulers. There are a great deal of feminists that identify with MRM ideologies, as well. Belittling and dismissing a movement as broad as feminism isn't taking into consideration that there many be many ideas both sides agree with and share.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 07:15 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Do you really think all MRAs are infallible victims of oppression, incapable of committing any wrongdoing? And do you think that there aren't women-hating MRAs? I'm not saying they're the majority. I'm saying that they exist, just as man-hating feminists exist. If collective responsibility is a valid notion, then (if you're white) you're responsible for the enslavement of African-American's in the US. If you're Spanish, you're responsible for the genocide of the Native Americans. If you're black…	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 07:11 PM
-1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists You claimed that feminism has never been about women's rights, where it explicitly was the case. In modern times, yes, I agree that it's bigoted. But your level of self deceit about the issue makes you delusional.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 06:58 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists I think we're possibly on the same page here, although using different language to describe it. I do agree that the MRM has to fight a large swath of feminist legislation that discriminates against men. The VAWA, custody laws, unfair alimony payments, lack of parental rights, misrepresentation in violent & sexual victimhood as well as domestic abuse, the list goes on. However, I don't think that an egalitarian movement will rise and become prominent anytime soon. This is why I want feminists and…	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 05:57 PM
0	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists That's basically what I'm saying, yes. On top of that, though, feminists may agree with feminist ideology and not be bigots, because there are so many branches of feminism that "feminist" really isn't enough to define their beliefs about gender politics anymore. A feminist can very well be an MRA in viewpoints, and simply not have heard of the movement before.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 05:54 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Oh, so you're saying feminism didn't really have anything to do with women gaining the right to vote, reproductive rights, pay equality, etc? It was all about man-hating? Honestly, I can't argue with this level of delusion. You can continue to attempt to insult me, but it's irrelevant. You have a victim complex rivaling that of the most outspoken tumblr feminists.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 05:26 PM
-1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists False dichotomous thinking like this is what causes the Men's Rights Movement to lose supporters. That, and the completely illogical arguments such as those you've made, to try and pass as fact. I want the MRM to pick up and become a larger movement that isn't shunned by mainstream society. You clearly want the opposite, indicated by your statements.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 04:45 PM
-1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists You've made such illogical assumptions by claiming all feminists hate men, and that collective responsibility is a valid concept. Big of these are false. This is the equivalent of a feminist saying "all MRAs hate women". It's ridiculous, and we aren't responsible for actions of those MRAs who actually do.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 03:50 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists These issues have been thought by feminists before, but that doesn't mean individual minds can't be changed. I firmly believe that of enough women are politely shown the systemic discrimination against men on the issues, they'll fight against it, not just for their best interests.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 12:23 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists You're placing limits on what feminists are attempting to change by stating "government-granted/enforced", as feminists seem to be trying to make societal changes, got legislative ones. Regardless of that, though, it doesn't matter why I know about disparities in legislation between the genders, it's what those feminists think that draws them to feminism. As much as some members pursue gender-based discrimination against men, equating that to be the whole of feminism is not logical, nor benefici…	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 12:04 PM
1	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists I think that the majority of individuals who identify as feminists are genuinely trying to attain what they see as gender equality. I doubt that the majority of feminists are legitimately trying to oppress men, and most don't empathize with others unlike themselves. these things you're claiming are exactly what the feminists you describe would say about you. Instead of pre-judging individuals who might share more common views than you might think, we should give everybody the benefit of the doub…	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 05:06 AM
-2	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists I think your reliance on written imagery is interesting, but not really suited towards attempting to bridge gaps between the two main gender-based equality movements. I don't disagree that there's, as you put it, a large "undergrowth of bullshit still needs serious brush cutting", but being abrasive and offensive is the exact reason why so many in the mainstream find the MRM distasteful, and misogynistic. No, I don't think the MRM is sexist, but the public eye is rather important in determining …	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 04:38 AM
4	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists Honestly, I don't think calm, reasonable discourse is going to cause me or you to "sell out" and throw the MRM under the bus. That seems a little sensational.	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 04:33 AM
-4	The MRM isn't about fighting feminists I know that in feminist-dominated spaces the MRM will be mocked regardless of our actions. That's why we need to engage feminists one on one, in a peaceable manner that doesn't lead them to believe the nonsense rhetoric usually spouted about MRAs. The purpose of acting civil is that it will show many who is acting like adults, and who is not. Eventually, we will come across those who do act civilized when the label "MRA" comes out, and we can have a discussion with them. Realistically, nobody's …	/r/MensRights	17/02/15 04:31 AM
-1	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex We agree on the rape thing, but quoting only a specific part of a whole comment out of context to attack it, where it would have been correct in-context (in regards to the article) is quote mining. Yes, that quote out of context isn't always correct. In context, though, it was.	/r/MensRights	15/02/15 12:13 AM
-3	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex You're quote mining. You're taking one part of my statement to attack what I said, when the rest of my statement (a) relies on information provided in the article, and (b) accurately describes the story.	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 11:39 PM
-4	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex If you read the article, you would realize that the victim was unconscious, and that there was video proof of it.	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 09:06 PM
-5	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex The clear-cut remark was specifically related to this case, where there is video evidence corroborating the victim's story. You are quote-mining to prove me wrong. I have already stated in reply posts & my original post that being black-out is not the sole reason to have this qualified as a rape.	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 06:26 PM
3	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex Well, you're correct. It's difficult to tell whether somebody is black-out or simply intoxicated, and near impossible to determine whether their cognitive decision-making faculties are currently functional. And yeah, blacking out wasn't reason enough to justify a guilty verdict, which is why the case was thrown out the first time. However, the appeal brought the video evidence of her unconscious body being taken advantage of, which was evidence to charge these individuals with rape. While I agre…	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 06:11 PM
-5	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex You're removing what I've said from the context of the situation in order to try and prove me incorrect. What I stated was accurate for this case, as evidenced by the video proof submitted during court proceedings. Unconsciousness signifies an inability to remember something, as evidenced by the video proof, yet again.	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 06:08 PM
0	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex The main issue is that nobody really becomes unconscious of their own accord; it's very different than falling asleep, as it must be caused by external forces such as drug effects, physical force (loss of blood to the brain), disease, etc. She very well may have been getting drunk of her own accord, but that doesn't mean she wanted to pass out. Passing out was an unintended medical side effect, which should change the status of her consent regardless. Even if we go with that logic, though this i…	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 02:27 PM
0	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex Seeing as blacking out and passing out are separate events, it probably would have been rape regardless. Although entirely a judgement call on whether somebody is too drunk to consent, a 23-year-old woman who had downed 12 shots of vodka before leaving the bar/club is likely unable to legally consent. I think that alterations in consciousness do require a change in the consent status of sexual engagements. Having sex with somebody who is awake is different than having sex with somebody who is cl…	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 02:13 PM
8	Men jailed for rape of woman who admitted to being so drunk she did not know whether she had consented to sex If she is so drunk that she could not remember (aka blacked out), then that is rape. Video footage on mobile phones seized by police at the flat showed one of the defendants having sex with the victim while she appeared to be barely, if at all, conscious. This case was thrown out because there was no evidence she was being raped. The case was appealed, and before the conviction video evidence was found corroborating the victim's story. This seems to be pretty clear-cut in terms of what happened.…	/r/MensRights	14/02/15 01:43 PM
5	Nurse who faked DNA test and borrowed a toddler to dupe man into thinking he'd fathered her child on one-night stand is freed from jail, Because a custodial sentence was too harsh. Again, not sure what the exact rules are over there, but patients aren't required to be in danger at all in order for a nurse to be fired. This would certainly get one fired in the US. Hell, if a nurse mentions a patient name and what drug they need in the hallway to somebody not directly involved in acquiring those prescriptions, that's immediate grounds for dismissal. This would be such a certainty in the US, if she gets away with it in the UK then there's something fucked with your HIPAA equi…	/r/MensRights	02/12/14 01:37 AM
26	Nurse who faked DNA test and borrowed a toddler to dupe man into thinking he'd fathered her child on one-night stand is freed from jail, Because a custodial sentence was too harsh. As a male entering the nursing field, chances are that yes, she will lose her license. I'm not sure about how Wales handles things, but in the US nurses have their licenses revoked all the time for much less absurd infractions. Nursing boards don't tend to pander to anybody; they're very strict on enforcing punishment for HIPAA infractions. It's extremely unlikely that she'll retain her license. EDIT: changed aquatic mammalian life form to UK nation	/r/MensRights	01/12/14 10:10 PM
40	Even false rape accusations should appear on academic records to prevent entry into college Actually, a woman could rape a man, but legally it would require her to penetrate his body. Otherwise, it's be classified as sexual assault. It's a stupid, biased fucking law, but that's the FBI definition, anyhow.	/r/MensRights	04/10/14 07:30 PM
1	I hit my boyfriend this morning and it has changed my view on the men's rights movement. somebody's drunk asides from me, your link is invalid	/r/MensRights	02/10/14 05:08 AM
1	Blatant Double-Standard To add to what /u/Celda posted, here's the 2010 CDC Report on sexual violence in America, and here is another redditor with some interesting facts about domestic violence (with sources).	/r/MensRights	23/08/14 07:56 PM
2	Continuing my University/city's excellent sexual violence campaign is this: > Loss of consciousness must not be confused with altered states of consciousness, such as delirium (when the person is confused and only partially responsive to the environment), normal sleep, hypnosis, and other altered states in which the person responds to stimuli. Close, but no cigar.	/r/MensRights	23/07/14 05:33 PM
1	FIRE Says It Will Sue Every College With a Speech Code Until Speech Codes Die Forever When you say "BARELY science", do you mean that they make observations of phenomena that occur around them and record it, and label these phenomena according to their shared characteristics? Because that's what sociology does. While I'm not sure there's legitimate science to politics, it doesn't mean that other soft sciences are incorrectly labelled as sciences. Just because the results aren't always the same, doesn't mean the scientific observation of complex mechanisms like human behavior and …	/r/MensRights	03/07/14 03:36 AM
-1	FIRE Says It Will Sue Every College With a Speech Code Until Speech Codes Die Forever Sorry, but sociology and feminist theory aren't interchangeable. I understand the sentiment you're trying to express here, but sociology is a science (not STEM, but still science), and dismissing is at biased simply because you may have had poor experiences involving sociology doesn't mean that the entire field is botched. Sociology can and does exist separate from feminist influence. Just ignore biased sciences just as you would creationist sciences; pseudoscience is what it is.	/r/MensRights	02/07/14 04:12 PM
1	If this is the new women’s movement, it’s no wonder girls don’t want to call themselves ‘feminists’ Because Nazis are the most well known? If you think this comparison would be hyperbolic, then all of these other groups would have been hyperbolic just the same. But the particular matter that he's speaking of (physical action to achieve censorship) isn't hyperbolic at all: both parties being spoken about performed these actions for the same effect. Not all Nazis committed genocide or even used violence. Therefore, it's not necessarily hyperbolic (exaggerated), although it can very easily be mis…	/r/MensRights	15/04/14 11:30 PM
6	If this is the new women’s movement, it’s no wonder girls don’t want to call themselves ‘feminists’ But right now, he's not comparing extremist feminists to Nazis in the sense that they want genocide; he's explicitly referring to the censorship practiced by both parties. In this sense, the comparison relatively accurate. However, it is only accurate in this very specific instance.	/r/MensRights	15/04/14 11:13 PM
0	Great anti-circumcision image from Intact Houston, via Just Smith Oh that's nasty.	/r/MensRights	09/04/14 01:47 PM
20	Great anti-circumcision image from Intact Houston, via Just Smith I believe it would actually be the clitoral hood.	/r/MensRights	09/04/14 04:22 AM
2	Female Philadelphia Cop 'Stops and Frisks' African American Teen, Literally Destroying His Genitals I think you're typing this at the wrong person. /u/theQuandary is saying that civil disobedience isn't enough to save you from the cops, and explaining why. He doesn't appear to be siding with them at all, just explaining that they can fuck you up even when you comply, and if you try to go after them through legal means, the investigation will get shut down. I would hazard a guess and say that he's probably more of the same mind as you towards the police and corruption, although perhaps not shar…	/r/MensRights	24/01/14 03:51 PM
2	Female Philadelphia Cop 'Stops and Frisks' African American Teen, Literally Destroying His Genitals I was just trying to show how civil resistance doesn't work against uncivilized people.	/r/MensRights	23/01/14 05:36 PM
2	Female Philadelphia Cop 'Stops and Frisks' African American Teen, Literally Destroying His Genitals Are you asking a loaded question? I don't think anybody should use violence on another person, except in retaliation to violence for means of self-defense. Seeing as that would have been the only thing that prevented him from losing his balls, yeah, i would say he should have. But I have hindsight, and I wouldn't have said the same thing before reading this story.	/r/MensRights	23/01/14 04:36 PM
1	Female Philadelphia Cop 'Stops and Frisks' African American Teen, Literally Destroying His Genitals He should've just checked his scrotum-ruptometer to see when it was going to happen.	/r/MensRights	23/01/14 04:03 PM
3	Female Philadelphia Cop 'Stops and Frisks' African American Teen, Literally Destroying His Genitals And get your nuts ruptured. The only way for this boy, and others who are victims of police brutality, is to use violence against those who are determined to use it on you, as demonstrated here. I don't advocate violence in any other circumstances, but if somebody ruptures my ballsack, my fingers would be jammed as far into their eye sockets as I can reach. You can't reason with an unthinking animal, you can put it down or be put down by it.	/r/MensRights	23/01/14 02:25 PM
27	Two college students (male and female) have sex. The next day the woman writes to the man: "I had a wonderful time, but I'm sorry I led you on, I'm not ready for a relationship". One year later: She files a charge of "non-consensual sexual contact" through the college disciplinary system. If you even read that article you just posted, you'd see clearly that this isn't the case.	/r/MensRights	17/12/13 05:11 PM
12	Mans ex gf sueing him for his lottery winnings....oh and she threw in a DV charge for the icing on the cake. That does constitute as common law marriage in most states, but New Jersey does not allow common law marriage, and so there, it is not legally binding.	/r/MensRights	10/11/13 04:58 PM