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Im sure you dont find a 500-pound guy making out with his 600-pound wife on the park bench attractive. Of course I don’t. But I’m also into short women, that doesn’t mean I’d automatically find a 500-lb short woman attractive. Not sure why you framed it that way. They’re irrational dislikes that make a man less masculine to a woman. In this case, the point im trying to make is that women think that bi men are less masculine or in the same vein less moral. I don’t really know what all women think…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:19 PM
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But that’s the thing, I don’t think bi women are more promiscuous. I don’t see sexuality as something that determines promiscuity. My reason is simply what I said before, I find heterosexuality attractive, maybe because of who I am as well. It’s just an ick for me if my partner is also attracted to the same sex. And about every preference having an explanation, I don’t fully agree. Some people just prefer certain hair or eye colors, and that’s really just a simple like or dislike. Sure, some pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 10:03 PM
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I really don’t think it’s an issue. Having sexuality preferences (or requirements) is totally normal for both men and women🤔 same as having any other trait you look for or avoid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 04:19 AM
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Because it’s just what feels right to me. Same way some guys prefer tall women, some prefer short. I’m straight, so I’m attracted to women who are also fully into men. If she’s into the same sex too, that’s simply not something I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:47 PM
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Lol that’s a pretty stupid reason if you think about it. Women already have no problem sleeping with men if they want to. If they already have access to 4 billion guys, adding another 4 billion women into the mix doesn’t really change much haha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:25 PM
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It’s not the same, I agree, but both aren’t only into men. I’m into women who are fully into men. Nothing against bi women, I’m just not attracted to bisexuality. And I only compared it to lesbians because I often hear guys say like "I’d totally sleep with her if she wasn’t lesbian", while I’d instantly lose attraction. That’s just how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:11 PM
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Because I’m into heterosexual women. It would be the same if I find a woman attractive and then learn she’s a lesbian, I’d lose attraction instantly. Some guys might still hold onto the fantasy even if they can’t have her, but I wouldn’t, if she’s not heterosexual, I’m simply not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:01 PM
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Reddit is a liberal site, and the women here are the most liberal in the world. If they're spouting this shit. Women in the real world are absolutely vicious. I mean yeah you have a point. But then again, I honestly never heard much of that, maybe it just means I’m not close to those kinds of people? Also I’m not from the US, so maybe that’s why my perspective feels different. That's fine but you must admit that most guys don’t really care. Most guys? I’m not so sure, at least not when it comes …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 04:23 PM
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But that’s just reddit being reddit, no? In real life I think there’s way less of that compared to the loud minority here. Personally, I wouldn’t date a bi woman either, but not for some deep reason, I’m just into straight women. I’ve got nothing against them, it’s just a preference. I always thought most people saw it that way too, without overanalyzing it 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:59 PM
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Really? Most of the time I just hear women say they don’t want to date bi men because they don’t like the idea of their partner being into other men. They just find that unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:14 PM
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Which part of my comment are you arguing exactly? Of course some guys are into fat women, and plenty of guys settle for them too. My reply to OP was about "chubby chasing gym bros", that’s not some normal thing happening all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:02 AM
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I mean, it’s a physical trait that’s very visible. If you don’t feel attraction, you don’t, you can’t really force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:57 AM
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Huh? My original point was "if". Of course there isn’t a study, because guys already get way fewer matches. If there were breast filters, most would end up with basically zero matches. But if men still got plenty daily regardless, you don’t need a study to guess they’d filter for what’s most ideal to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:55 AM
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Still perfectly okay. Most people have some requirements, you probably do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:48 AM
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Then by that logic, any other trait about women that can’t be changed still stands too. I already mentioned a few before, like breasts, butt, hips, etc. Those aren’t choices either, yet guys would still filter for what they find most ideal if given the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:47 AM
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Then by that logic, any other trait about women that can’t be changed still stands too. I already mentioned a few before, like breasts, butt, hips, etc. Those aren’t choices either, yet guys would still filter for what they find most ideal if given the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:47 AM
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Which is why I also mentioned body type. And if there were filters for breasts, butt, hips, etc., most guys wouldn’t openly admit what’s "ideal", but when literally choosing filters, they’d pick exactly what they prefer, same way women do with height. And again, that’s only because women still get plenty of matches either way. Also, I’ve been in the gym for 10 years and I don’t know a single guy who’s actually into fat women. Just because you’ve met a few online who fetishize it doesn’t make it …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:37 AM
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Not sure what the problem is here, height is just a preference. If there were weight or body type filters for men, I’m sure plenty would say they just want a woman "smaller than them", but then set the filter to lean/skinny anyway. Especially if they still had plenty of matches like women do with height.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:24 AM
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Maybe it doesn’t change your sexual orientation, sure. But it’s also not weird for a straight person to only be into other straight people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:45 AM
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Yeah but personally, I choose my partner based on who she is, her values, personality, looks, etc., not her "money-making career". That wouldn’t be a factor for me. If my only options were between those two, I’d rather stay single for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 09:29 AM
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You really think the average prostitute is that rich? Either way, my original comparison still stands. For any guy with even a little self-respect, both options are just big lose-lose situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 09:09 AM
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And since when do women with jobs not want the guy to pay for stuff? In this situation you’re still covering things, except now your wife is getting screwed by other guys daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 08:46 AM
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Does it really matter? That’s like asking if you’d rather jump over the burj khalifa or the empire state building. Either way, you’re screwed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 08:35 AM
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Who is forcing them into anything? (At least in modern countries)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:10 AM
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I just said I don’t care if they slept with men or women, I’d see both as the same level of promiscuous. And I wouldn’t date either, whether it’s because of being promiscuous or not being straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:04 PM
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There’s no logic behind it, attraction doesn’t need to be logical. Preferences can be based on feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:57 PM
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Nah, I don’t care if she’s promiscuous with men or women, same thing either way. But well, tbf, I wouldn’t date anything other than a straight woman anyway, so the whole argument doesn’t even apply to me. Preferences in dating ≠ seeing anyone as inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:53 PM
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I don’t care about male promiscuity, you know why? Because I’m not dating men, so why would I care what they do? To be fair, I don’t care about female promiscuity either, except when it comes to my partner. But as a straight guy, why would I even give a thought to what men are doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:47 PM
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My bad, I thought we were talking about strangers. If it’s about coworkers, honestly I’d still stay out of it, last thing I want is career drama over something like that, so I’d stay neutral. With friends it’s different tho, I don’t tolerate shitty behavior and I’m not friends with assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 05:34 PM
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I’m not talking about men calling out men specifically. I mean in general, men calling out men/women, women calling out women/men. It’s not random people’s job to police what strangers say. This has nothing to do with rights, men’s or women’s. If you body-shamed some random guy in a café and I saw it, I wouldn’t step in, because it’s not my responsibility. Same if you were a guy doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:57 PM
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What are you even talking about? My answer wasn’t sex specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:33 PM
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If you want to involve yourself in other people’s drama, that’s up to you. But others aren’t bad people just because they choose to mind their own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:14 PM
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Why would I expect empathy from random strangers, men or women? I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:55 PM
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Basically it just sounds like people want men to go looking for drama and fight battles that aren’t theirs. Yeah, no thanks. I don’t need to stick my nose in other people’s business. Edit: grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:36 PM
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By all means, do whatever surgery you want. If anything, it helps people filter out who they’re not into. Why would I care what strangers do with their body if it doesn’t harm anyone else? Just be upfront with a future partner if you’ve had work done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 06:21 PM
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We have something like that in my country in europe already, but it’s quite complicated to get. It’s usually only temporary, and pretty much always with marriage in mind later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 02:49 PM
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If a person (doesn’t have to be a guy) prefers something they value but can’t get it for whatever reason, then yeah, they’re settling, because they didn’t get what they actually wanted. And by the way, who says this is only about men? I support women not choosing guys with baggage and trauma too. It’s not just for men’s benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:40 PM
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Probably cheating. I wouldn't feel guilty breaking up over that, since cheating is fully on her. Being bi isn’t her fault, that’s just her sexuality, so if we break up because of it, I would feel more guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:20 PM
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Why is it not realistic? Sure, you can be cautious, have trust issues, or take all the precautions you want, that’s your choice, and yeah it's nothing bad. But from my perspective, what do I gain from being with someone like that? Nothing. For me it’s just downside, which is exactly why I wouldn’t commit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:11 PM
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I mean, if I can choose between someone with no baggage (no experience), or someone whose past was mostly positive (like healthy relationships that ended over compatibility), I’d prefer that over someone who went through toxic or messy relationships. From what I’ve seen, most people I know would probably feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:36 PM
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So basically the idea is that good men should take care of women with baggage left by bad men? Yeah, no thanks. And it’s not that men are "upset", most just don’t want to commit to women carrying that kind of baggage. Sure, some might settle because they can’t find better, but that’s all it really is, settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:21 PM
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Nevermind, go on and live your miserable life alone then. Have a good day:)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:09 AM
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We will be, if all men stop having kids, what's confusing about that to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:06 AM
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If you want men to stop wanting kids, we will go extinct, it's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:04 AM
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I don’t, but I’m also not claiming we should stop having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:09 AM
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Again, do you want humans to stop reproducing and go extinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:52 PM
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Come on, humans are still animals at the end of the day. Every species has a biological drive to reproduce and have offspring. That’s not patriarchy, that’s just nature. If humans stopped wanting kids altogether, we’d literally go extinct. Is that really what you’re suggesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:49 PM
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The post was about men’s dating preferences today, not patriarchy centuries ago. Bringing up control mechanisms doesn’t change the fact that men and women both have full choice now, and plenty of women also want biological kids. That’s the actual topic here. So basically men can’t want kids… got it. Guess the plan is to let the human race go extinct then, right? Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:38 PM
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So by that logic, any man who wants a family is automatically part of oppression? That erases women’s agency completely, because plenty of women also want kids. Isn’t that also their choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:30 PM
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That’s a complete deflection. The past isn’t the question, today, both men and women have full choice. If a couple mutually wants biological children, how on earth is that wrong? Wanting a family together is not the same as controlling someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:25 PM
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This isn’t about single women tho. The question is about men and women in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:20 PM
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But today women do have a choice, so why is it wrong for men to want their own biological kids too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:17 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:14 PM
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So now it’s a bad thing for men to want their own biological kids? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:15 PM
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I’ve never heard of men fantasizing about a woman’s status or net worth. Back when I was broke, maybe I would’ve thought about it just because of the struggles. But now that I’m at least comfortable (not rich, but doing okay), I’d still choose my own life over being with a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:56 PM
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Of course it would also be true. I think it’s the same valid reason as the other ones OP mentioned. Attraction and dating preferences don’t have to come from hate. Sure, there are racists and assholes out there, but in general the reasons people have don’t necessarily have anything to do with hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:20 AM
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Yeah exactly, it’s not about insecurity, jealousy, or control. It’s about respect and what feels appropriate in a relationship. And it goes both ways, men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:25 AM
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Or maybe it’s not about trust at all, but just that some things aren’t okay or appropriate in a relationship (not in all of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:20 AM
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True, but kinda funny that most of the posts I’ve seen about it recently are written by women, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:28 PM
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Not really sure what that has to do with what I said, but yeah, I’ve almost never seen that in real life as well. Feels way more like an online thing than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:28 PM
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Or more likely, it’s not “most” like you love to generalize, it’s just a few, but you keep choosing the same shitty men over and over. I’m not friends with a single guy that matches what you’re describing as “most.” But well, if you think all men are like that, just don’t date them. Men also don’t want relationships with bitter women who generalize an entire sex:)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:24 AM
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If 70–80% of divorces are initiated by women, then by your logic we could just say most women are incapable of being in a happy long-term relationship. See how dumb generalizing sounds? Those numbers are actually real, while you’re just assuming men would cheat if given the chance. I don’t know any guys like that, but then again, I don’t hang out with garbage. You can if you want. And hey, by your logic, we could also say 90% of women cheat, since almost all of them have the opportunity. But of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:41 AM
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Percentage doesn’t change the fact that you’re making the same lazy assumption, judging all men by the worst ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:14 AM
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Gonna assume this is a troll post 😂 what kind of guy stays with a cheating girlfriend just cause she’s anxious from having too many options? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:24 PM
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A lot of Americans who can work remotely move to other countries where their living standard ends up being higher. And for the guys who also want to date women from those countries, well they’re not hurting you, good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 10:34 PM
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Even if the left one’s younger, the right one actually looks younger, and based on her ethnicity, she’ll likely age better too. Most guys chase "sexy" when they want to sleep with someone, not when they’re thinking long-term. Also, just working in an office doesn’t scream "career woman', especially in Japan where women often prioritize family after marriage. Plus, she looks more approachable, happier, agreeable, and subjectively prettier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:52 AM
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And most murders are done by men, and most men are physically capable of doing it, so let’s just assume most men are evil and murderers, right? Great worldview. Ah, you probably believe that too anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:48 AM
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Sure, if telling yourself "most men are evil" makes life easier for you, go ahead and live like that. I really don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 10:01 PM
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Yeah, the majority of men do find younger women more attractive. But you know what? The majority of men also wouldn’t cheat on their partner. Attraction is usually objective, but subjectively, for most guys, their woman is still the prettiest, because she’s their woman. And about sex, sure, guys might joke like "I’d hit that", but most (same goes for women too) would never actually act on it. A few cheaters don’t make all men disloyal. As for your third point, maybe you’re just picking the wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:06 AM
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So don’t date men then. Most guys wouldn’t want to be with someone who constantly complains and generalizes the opposite sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:46 AM
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Not angry at all lol. Just saying comfort shouldn’t mean letting go of what attracted your partner in the first place:) I'm curious about your answer tho!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:12 AM
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Why is hair removal "ugh"? I’m sure you’ve seen it happen, woman shaves at the start, then stops once she’s comfortable, guy slowly loses attraction, and then she gets annoyed about it. If you hate shaving, just don’t do it from the beginning and find a guy who’s fine with it. Isn’t that better for both long-term?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:52 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:43 PM
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Because of a sense of "ownership", not in a controlling way, but more like, your body is something special meant for your partner, not for everyone to see. And I’d say it applies to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:09 AM
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Yeah i don’t get it either, I literally said I would stay if something happens while already in a relationship and she/we try to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:47 PM
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First of all, let’s clarify, are we talking about already being in a relationship or just getting to know her? Because if I’m NOT in a relationship yet and on a few dates, I’d expect that to come up, that she never want sex. It’s just basic decency to mention that early. Once I know that, I’d lose interest. If I’m already in a relationship and the sex life stops, like I said, it depends on the reason. If it’s medical and she/we try to fix it, of course I’d stay. Even if it’s medically impossible…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:47 PM
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Why? I'm not asexual and I’m not looking for a roommate. Physical intimacy is important to most in a relationship, why would I commit to someone who isn’t willing or able to share that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:36 PM
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Which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:31 PM
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Would I go into a relationship with such a person in the first place? No. If it happens later in the relationship, it depends on the reason. If it’s medical and she’s actively trying to fix it, going to the doctor, consultations, etc., then sure, I’d stay. But if she didn’t care or didn’t want to address it, then no, I wouldn’t stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:30 PM
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Exactly, that’s why it’s subjective, it’s your personal choice, not up to anyone else. What’s “high” is defined by what you’re comfortable with. Whether that limit is 10, 15, or 20, it’s your standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 01:50 PM
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I’d say what’s considered “high” is totally subjective and depends on the person, their experiences, age, and even their culture. For example, if your social circle averages 10 partners, then 20 might seem high to you. But if someone’s only had 1, then 10 could already feel high. And like I mentioned, age matters too, having 5 partners by 30 isn’t the same as 5 by 18. But then, even someone with 50 partners might still prefer their partner to have fewer, is it hypocritical? Sure, but that’s true…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:53 PM
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Well, I’ve already found my partner who fits my preferences, so I have zero desire to put myself in unnecessary drama. But I’m curious, who exactly decides how much shaming is “acceptable”? Either way, shame all you want, I just don’t bother because I gain nothing from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:09 AM
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Yeah exactly haha. Being more traditional and european definitely triggers some of the more “progressive” folks here. But yeah, I know how it is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:23 AM
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And? What’s wrong with that? Who does it help if I just say “I’m not interested in promiscuous women”? I have nothing against them, I’m simply not compatible with them. That’s my subjective take, without shaming those who aren’t compatible with me. Objectively, the fairest stance is what I originally said, everyone can have any kind of preference, just don’t shame others who don’t meet your standards. If someone’s preferences are unrealistic, that’s their own issue, not anyone else’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:17 AM
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Haha yeah, imagine my surprise getting downvoted at first lol. Guess even common sense is controversial here 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:49 AM
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At the end of the day, it’s just a preference like any other. Whether someone desires a partner with 0, 1, 10, or 100 past partners, that’s their choice. Nothing is wrong with having a preference, as long as you’re not shaming people who don’t meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:45 AM
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So problem solved then
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:44 PM
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Then just don’t make female friends, easy solution lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:36 PM
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Yeah, exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:10 PM
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No idea and don’t care, honestly. But it’s a good filter to stay away from those kinds of women (or men) anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:38 AM
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Yeah exactly, you don’t need to be red pill to see it. Just ask any group of men and women to rate themselves, you’ll quickly see way more women overvalue themselves compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:28 PM
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I haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:21 PM
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OP probably thinks 28 is "low" bmi lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:32 AM
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Exactly haha, let’s start the movement, date makeup free only! At least that way we all know what we’re really working with 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:29 AM
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What you said is fair, but in reality most people I know would rather rank themselves a 5/10 than a 10/10, even if 5 is just average. Sure, some might say 10/10 jokingly, but many genuinely believe they’re flawless, and that’s where the problem is. They’re actually average, but because they think they’re perfect, they’ll only accept perfection in a partner. That mindset is what really creates the mismatch, way beyond the literal ranking number.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:27 AM
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Exactly, and not many people, women or men, are actually low BMI, especially in the US. But even then, just having low BMI doesn’t automatically make someone average or attractive, there’s more to it than just weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:45 PM
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To be honest, I don't have experience with the type of guys you're describing so maybe it's true or not. But what I see a lot is women ranking themselves 10/10 while being less than average and expecting way above average men. So I think it happens on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:33 PM
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Tell her to call the police and stay with family, friends, or a shelter. Then wish her good luck and block. Not my problem to solve..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:41 PM
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You did ask me tho😅
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:16 AM
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Well, my fiancé is amazing, and we were together through lots of hard moments in our lives. I don't need to tolerate anything:)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:48 AM
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Yeah, fair enough. Personally I'm mostly apolitical, just trying to live my life without drama. If there’s an obstacle, I try to handle it myself instead of waiting for someone else to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:12 PM
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I’m assuming those stats are from the US? I’d hope the percentage is lower in other Western countries, but yeah, either way, just complaining about it won’t help. Especially on Reddit, any time someone brings this stuff up, the backlash is getting louder. Yeah, it’s hard to “win,” but honestly, working hard for that small % is still better than giving up and living a bitter, miserable life. Also, you don’t have to travel abroad, there are often foreign women already living in your country. Or if…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:17 PM
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Isn't that ideal for most guys looking for LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:33 AM
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Or even better idea, don’t complain at all. Just go find one of those traditional women in your country, or maybe a foreign woman with traditional values already living there, or if needed, go to a different country altogether. Personally, I’d rather take action than spend years whining and hoping society magically changes. If some entitled women want to stay that way and end up alone, that’s their choice, not my problem. Honestly, it makes it easier to spot who’s worth your time and who isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:30 AM
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Yeah, I totally get that. One guy who replied to me earlier made a good point, if you live in a big country, there’s a decent chance you’ll find communities from different cultures. I think he mentioned East and South Asians, and South Americans in his case. But even then, just dating someone from a different culture while still living in your own country won’t work out if you don’t genuinely like or respect her culture. No matter how traditional she is, it won’t last without that mutual underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:21 AM
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Wow, that’s sad to hear... I mean, we do have our stereotypes about Americans over here, but at the end of the day, I always assumed most of them were just that, stereotypes, not something that actually reflects real life that much. But yeah, good point about the politics. I’ve noticed that too, here in Europe we definitely care way less, and it feels like a totally different dynamic compared to how things seem in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:13 AM
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Yeah exactly! It’s never really about being a "passport bro", it’s about finding someone who shares your values. For me, it’s the same, it doesn’t have to be fully traditional or non-traditional, it's not just black and white, just having the important aspects that matter to both of you. Not sure from your reply if you’ve found your special person yet, but either way, I hope you’re enjoying your time with her!:)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:08 AM
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Yeah, but let’s be honest, when women complain, especially these days in Western countries, it’s usually met with support. When men complain, it’s often met with backlash, told to “man up” or “go to therapy,” and made to feel like they’re weak or worthless for even speaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:02 AM
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Yeah, so you can either find one of those rare women in the West who isn’t a feminist, is more traditional, and won’t give you a headache, or look for someone from a different culture. But yeah, you can’t stop people from judging you. We get judged for all kinds of things all the time anyway, being in a traditional relationship is just one more on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:59 AM
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Yeah, I get it, I was mostly talking about relationships similar to what people build at home, just with someone from a different culture. I’m not a passport bro either. My fiancée is Asian, but we met completely by chance, and I didn’t even know what that term meant back then haha. Also, her country’s actually pretty rich, so it’s not exactly the stereotype anyway lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:52 AM
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Nope, first of all, we met by chance back then. Second, now that I travel there regularly, I can honestly say people in general look better than in the West. And third, her country is actually richer than mine, and both of our passports are among the best in the world. So no, this has nothing to do with "lower hanging fruit" or being a passport bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:47 AM
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Thank you! I’m sure you can do it too, whichever path you choose! Let’s both keep doing our best out there! 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:13 PM
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Damn, is it really that bad in real life? I have no idea since I’m from EU and only see things through social media, news, and TV. Either way, sorry to hear that man :(
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:10 PM
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Yeah, I get that. My perspective might be a bit off since I don’t personally know what it’s like in the US. I’m from Central Europe, which probably seems more traditional compared to the US, but even then, it’s less traditional than where my fiancée is from (East Asia). That said, we’ve had no issues living in either of our countries. I wouldn’t really call myself a passport bro the way you describe it. We met when I was a broke student and she actually had more money than me at the time. But sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:06 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "passport bro." If you're just sleeping around in poor countries because your money gives you an advantage, sure, enjoy it, that’s your thing. But if you're after a genuine, meaningful relationship where you fully accept her culture, build a future together, get accepted by her family, and she stands by you through thick and thin, I wouldn't call that the typical "passport bro" lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:49 PM
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But why aim to retire there in the first place? I mean, if it's possible, great. But is it really worth spending your best years alone just to retire at 50? Especially for men who want a family, kids, and grandkids, that doesn’t sound ideal. Take China for example (just as a general case, assuming it's more traditional than the US). If you genuinely like the culture, you’d probably be open to learning the language, adapting to the lifestyle, and finding work there. Even teaching English or somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:42 PM
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Just be careful not to fall into the "passport bro" trap. I specifically mentioned non-poor countries because in places with lower income levels, there's a higher chance you'll be seen more as a walking wallet than a real partner. You might get lucky, sure, but it’s something to be aware of. Also, wanting a traditional wife from a different culture without genuinely liking or respecting her culture usually doesn’t work long term. That’s why those “just bring money, get a submissive wife” mindset…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:21 PM
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I'm sure there are still some women in the US with more traditional values, just harder to find these days. I’m not from the US, but in general in EU there are plenty of countries that aren’t considered poor and still have more traditional-minded women (at least compared to the US). The whole point of my comment is that just complaining about the situation won't solve anything. You'll end up wasting your golden years if you do nothing. Looking elsewhere isn’t always easy or possible, but for som…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:10 PM
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I'm not sure why some guys complain this much but never actually do anything about it. If you don't like the modern western dating scene, why not look into dating or marrying someone from a different culture? And no, I'm not talking about the whole "passport bro" thing, there are plenty of countries with strong traditional values that aren't poor or desperate. In fact, in many of those cultures, you actually have to bring a lot to the table to be taken seriously. So yeah, either adapt to the wes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:49 PM
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I'm from a Central European country (and no, not Hungary), and personally, I don’t know almost anyone who's racist. Just saying, generalizations like that don’t help either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:30 AM
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No idea if it’s true for most and no idea why exactly! I could guess some women might see guys who want to have sex with other guys as less masculine, but I don’t know if that’s really the reason. Me personally, I wouldn’t be okay with it, I’m just not attracted to different sexuality myself!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:54 PM
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Like other person already said, most women are straight, and they’re naturally attracted to straight men. It’s really not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:17 AM
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Sure, social roles definitely played a part, but biology wasn’t irrelevant either. Even in ancient times, men were typically the hunters and protectors because they were physically stronger, more muscle mass, bone density, etc. That made them more suited for dangerous tasks like hunting or defense. Also, who was supposed to provide when a woman was pregnant or caring for infants? Biologically, men stepping into that provider role made sense for survival. So while gender roles evolved culturally …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:33 AM
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I mean good for you, but that doesn’t really change the point, most guys aren’t like that. They want to be dominant and providers, or at least equals, which just isn’t realistic when dating a celebrity. And let’s be honest, how many female celebs actually want to provide for a guy long-term?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:38 AM
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Yeah, probably many women wouldn’t enjoy all that either. But at least in their case, they’re still getting a high-status man, which tends to matter more to a lot of women than it does to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:21 AM
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For a regular guy, dating a celebrity sounds like more trouble than it’s worth. She’d be away a lot for work (even weeks or months), you’d constantly deal with drama, public attention, and social media backlash. Even small fights could go public. There’s a power imbalance too, and being dragged into celebrity chaos isn’t most guys’ idea of a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:11 AM
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I think most men don’t care if a woman is a celebrity or not, and many probably even prefer a non-celeb. There’s usually no advantage to being with a celebrity as a regular guy, only potential downsides. As for being a groupie, I’m sure there are guys like that, but I don’t get why any sane man would want to simp over celebrities. Just doesn’t make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:25 AM
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Then maybe lead with that instead of implying the opposite. I responded to what you said, not what you claim to believe after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:32 PM
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I don’t think anyone is a prize just because of their sex. My fiancée is a prize to me because of who she is, and I strive to be the same for her. Mutual respect, not entitlement, is what makes someone valuable in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:58 AM
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Are you made of gold or something? Just being a woman doesn’t make you a prize by default. Entitlement isn’t value, character is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:53 AM
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So basically, modern entitled woman mindset in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:53 AM
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So just to clarify, in your view, men aren’t supposed to have any standards of their own? They should work hard, become their best selves, and then just accept any woman who shows interest, regardless if she fit his standards? That doesn’t sound like equality, it sounds like men are expected to prove themselves while women are automatically the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:24 AM
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I never said I think lowly of women, nor did I bring up anything about the friendzone or only befriending women men are attracted to. You’re projecting arguments onto me that I never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:06 PM
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Since I'm in a relationship, that's already a good enough reason IRL to avoid unnecessary drama and decline friendship offers that could complicate things. Your argument might make more sense if you said there's no point in being in a relationship with men, but instead you mentioned sex, which can just be a one-night stand and has nothing to do with friendship. Also, you never really explained what this has to do with a man's preference for romantic relationships with women versus not valuing pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:44 AM
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And you obviously can't understand that for mockery to happen, you need to mention that person first. And I, or any of the guys I know, never mention them. Do you understand now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:52 PM
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If I’m around guys who don’t even mention them, then yeah, it’s kinda hard to hear mocking, isn’t it? And no, I’m not okay with aggressive behavior, I just don’t think what he did was actually aggressive. Rude? Absolutely. But calling it hateful or violent is a reach. If a woman walked up and popped a balloon same way, after seeing a guy who’s 160cm, I’d also call it rude, not “aggressive.” It’s a dumb YouTube show, not real life. Don’t read more into it than what’s there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:14 PM
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No, most men don’t mock, no matter what you believe. If you’re constantly around that type of guy, maybe that says more about your social circle than men in general. I don’t know a single person in real life who even brings up of models, let alone mocks them. You're projecting a loud online minority onto everyday people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:57 PM
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At this point I honestly think you're trolling. If popping a balloon is “aggression,” I dare you to run this show in any conservative or muslim country with a trans contestant and straight male panel. You'll quickly realize that popping a balloon is the mildest reaction you’ll get. Also, would you still call it wrong if he calmly popped the balloon instead of walking up fast? Because if the answer is yes, then you’re just using tone and body language as an excuse, the issue for you isn’t how he …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:31 PM
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No, if anyone’s being disrespectful here, it’s the production team for setting the guy up like that just to get reactions. But honestly, I wouldn’t cry about it, it’s obvious they just wanted views. And again, I never said the trans woman herself was offensive. I said the whole setup was a joke, it’s like bringing a gay guy to a dating show full of women and acting shocked when he’s not interested. That’s not representation, that’s bait. As for of models, I’ve said it multiple times now, the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:58 PM
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Again, if they knowingly bring a gay guy next to women, then have a straight guy pick among them, it’s obviously setting him up, like a joke at his expense (straight guy expense). That’s not “hate,” that’s just a messed up setup. And no, the average guy isn’t disrespectful to of models, they just don’t wanna date them. That’s not hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:40 PM
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Maybe because it looked like they were making a joke out of him? If the show brings on a straight guy, why even have a trans woman there as a contestant? That’s like bringing a gay guy to a panel full of women and acting shocked when he’s not into them. It just comes off as bait for reactions, not an actual dating setup.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:27 PM
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You do realize most people outside the US think the US is a joke, right? And that goes for both political sides. People were laughing long before Trump ever showed up as president. Also again, what exactly was hateful in that video? If it was a regular guy among women, it wouldn't be any different. Suddenly, a straight man not being attracted to a trans woman is “hate”? That’s not hate, it’s just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:04 PM
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The USA is only about 4% of the world population, and you said “men,” not “American men.” Even in the US, it’s not like all 150 million men think the same. Generalizing the whole gender based on a political fringe is lazy. Also, why are you suddenly bringing politics into this anyway? Not everyone who votes right is doing it for MAGA. And again, what’s even hateful in that video? You do realize trans women aren’t entitled to attraction from straight men right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:48 PM
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Dude, are you serious? First of all, those groups are actually small, go outside and you’ll barely meet anyone acting like that. Maybe it’s louder in the US, but in most other countries people don’t deal with this nonsense. And what even is that video? It’s about a trans woman, not OnlyFans or “sluts” like you mentioned before. Why are you suddenly mixing in something totally unrelated just to prove your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:23 PM
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That fringe group exists, sure, but most men don’t “hate” of models, they just don’t want to date them. There’s a big difference. Not wanting a partner with certain values isn’t hate, it’s preference. Generalizing all men because of a loud minority is lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:41 PM
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First of all, that’s usually not even the same men, you’re generalizing hard. And second, most men don’t hate any type of women. Choosing not to date someone isn’t hate, it’s just preference. By your logic, we could say “women hate attractive bad boys because they end up settling with nice guys,” and that wouldn’t make sense either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:04 AM
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Luckily, my fiancée and I don’t really care much about politics. To us, most politicians just end up making things worse anyway, left or right. That said, I’d likely never date someone on either extreme end of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:26 AM
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Okay, since we’re not finding any middle ground, let’s just agree to disagree:)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:16 PM
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He's not claiming everyone cheats except him, he's avoiding a risk in choosing a partner. If he knows he won’t cheat, great. But he doesn’t know her, and if promiscuity is statistically linked to higher risk, he might avoid it altogether. That’s a filter, not hypocrisy. Also, promiscuity reflects behavior, not just a physical trait like height. And cheating is just one reason, sometimes it’s just a matter of attraction. Some people simply aren't attracted to promiscuity, the same way others aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:13 PM
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I'm not a redpiller myself, but I think it's worth pointing out that redpill content in general isn't inherently about shaming. You can check out a post on ppd a few hours ago, explaining what redpill is supposed to be, it's more about understanding dynamics, not attacking people. The problem is that a lot of people who act like jerks online call themselves redpill, even if they're just being assholes. Shaming is wrong, no question about that. But I don’t think true redpill ideas promote shaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:30 PM
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Because he’s not worried about himself cheating, he’s worried about the risk of his partner doing it. She’s the one who would eliminate him if she thought his past made him likely to cheat. Also, I don’t think it’s strange at all for a shy person to not feel attracted to other shy people. Just like someone tall or short might have a preference either way. Whether it’s personality or physical traits, attraction isn’t about fairness or obligation, it’s just what people are drawn to. I'm considered…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:34 PM
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But those concerns, like cheating or paternity, are specifically about the partner, not himself. He’s choosing someone based on what he believes lowers the risk for a long-term relationship. Whether or not he would cheat is a separate matter. He’s not assigning moral judgment to himself in that decision, he’s making a choice about her, just like she might avoid men who don’t meet her standards. Just think about traits like confidence and shyness. A shy person might be drawn to someone confident,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:16 PM
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But he’s not dating himself, even if both share a trait, only one can act on it in choosing a partner. If both value ambition, a man might reject a woman for lacking it, just like she might reject him. But he can’t eliminate himself, he can only choose not to date her. Preference doesn’t require both sides to match it, it just guides who you seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:06 PM
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But he’s not attracted to himself, he’s choosing a partner. You’re describing basic relationship “hypocrisy,” but that applies to almost every preference people have. We’re all attracted to traits we might not personally have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:51 PM
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No, because in the context of OP’s post, “what if we break up” was framed around the woman being “not pure” anymore (I don’t like the word, just quoting). That’s not about responsibility, it’s about presuming loss of value post-relationship instead of focusing on building something lasting. And if we’re talking about hypocrisy, let’s be real, hypocrisy exists in almost every relationship preference. People are often attracted to traits they don’t have themselves. So where are you actually trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:36 AM
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You're calling it mental gymnastics, but all I said is that if you're serious about someone, your mindset shouldn’t immediately jump to, “what if we break up?” That’s not a strong foundation for any relationship. Wanting to wait until there’s clear mutual intent for a long-term future isn’t just “principled,” it’s logical, especially for people who treat sex as something meaningful, not just casual recreation. Seems like the disagreement here isn't with the logic, it's just with the fact that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:03 AM
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At the end of the day, men and women are going to date who they want. As long as there’s no shaming involved, I don’t really see the issue. People will always criticize something no matter what, so it is what it is haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:54 AM
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I never mentioned any alpha/beta bs. And “if the same happened to us”? You’re forgetting it’s often reversed for men, if a guy isn’t experienced or can’t satisfy a woman, he’s usually not her preference. Are you calling those preferences disgusting too? Also, hypocrisy in relationships isn’t unique to sexual history, it exists in tons of areas. People are rarely 100% aligned with their own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:15 AM
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I mean, you can criticize whatever you want, why would I care? I'm just saying it’s a valid preference, and it can go both ways for men and women. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. No one’s forcing you to accept what doesn’t align with your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:04 AM
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Hypocrisy can exist in almost any dating preference, not just sexual experience. Everyone has standards that don't always reflect their own history. But in this case, the person I replied to wasn’t even talking about hookups, she implied a serious relationship. So if the guy is committing to her long-term, what exactly is the issue? Isn’t that what people usually want, commitment and respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:58 AM
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There can be multiple reasons, but first we can simply say it’s attractive. Just like women find confident men attractive and don’t need to write essays explaining why, men can feel the same about women who haven’t slept around. It just is. If we want to go deeper though, it can be things like less emotional baggage, lower chance of comparing you to many past partners, reduced risk of infidelity or paternity issues, and in general, higher likelihood of long-term satisfaction and stability. It’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:51 AM
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I don't think it's hard to understand their logic. They dont want to commit to women that had sex with other men before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:35 AM
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I'm glad to agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:07 AM
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You said we’re talking about committed long-term relationships, not hookups, right? Because men who use terms like “ruined” or “impure” and still want commitment aren’t looking to use women and move on, they’d want to stay. If they’re in a lasting relationship, how exactly is anyone "ruined"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:59 PM
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Yeah, totally get that. I only used religion as an example, it's not always easy to pick one side when both could feel justified in their own way. That’s why I think openness and discussion are better than shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:53 PM
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Hmm, yes and no. I get what you're saying, but who decides what's actually harmful? That’s where it gets tricky. For example, religious people might think non-religious views are harmful, and vice versa. Both sides could end up shaming each other thinking they're doing the right thing. It’s not always black and white (btw I'm not religious).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:46 PM
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Yeah, I really don’t see a reason to shame random people:)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:41 PM
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Why should we like it, tho? If no one is shaming you, but just choosing not to date you based on values or lifestyle differences, what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:39 PM
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A bit of both, honestly. I’m mainly speaking to how many men feel, but I also personally prefer less experienced women, not out of judgment, but because I see sex as something meant for serious, long-term commitment (not necessarily marriage, but something equally intentional). That’s how my fiancée and I see it, and we’re really happy with that alignment. I don’t care how others live or what choices they make, everyone’s free to do what they want. I just chose a partner who shares the same valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:31 PM
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That’s a valid concern, but it assumes people are thinking about breakups before even committing. If a guy is serious about a woman, why would his first thought be “what if we break up and she loses value"? Shouldn’t he focus on making it work, or even wait to have sex until both are confident it’s long-term? Most men who prefer not promiscuous woman aren’t judging her for failed relationships, they just feel more aligned with someone who’s been more selective. It’s not about shame, it’s about c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:23 PM
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Sure, but hypocrisy shows up in almost any relationship preference, not just sexual experience. Everyone has the right to choose what works for them. I never mentioned shaming anyone, and I personally don’t support sleeping around, regardless of gender. But OP’s point wasn’t about casual sex anyway, it was about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:15 PM
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Yeah, for some guys it might come from insecurity, but definitely not all. I don’t think most men who prefer less promiscuous women see them as “objects.” If anything, it’s the guys who sleep around without committing that are more likely treating women like objects. Also, sexual history preferences go both ways. I don’t see an issue if a woman prefers inexperienced men, but it’s interesting how often men get criticized for the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:08 PM
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Choosing who you date based on your preferences isn’t shaming. Saying "promiscuous women/men are sluts" would be shaming. Saying "I prefer not to date promiscuous women/men" isn’t, it’s a personal boundary, not an attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:04 PM
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I think most guys who feel that way believe she loses value by having sex with others, not with him, especially if it’s in a committed relationship. That’s the key difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:01 PM
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I don’t like the word “pure” myself, it sounds outdated and weirdly moralistic. But I get what some guys actually mean when they use it, they’re not against women having sex, they just value exclusivity and intentionality, especially for long-term relationships. If a guy finds it attractive that a woman hasn’t been with many others, it’s not about thinking she’s “tainted” by sex. It’s about wanting to be her first or only in a serious, committed way. He’s not saying sex is bad, he’s saying rando…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:57 PM
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Because many men see a difference between what they offer and what they seek. Just like some women want tall, rich, confident men while being short and broke themselves, it’s not always about matching, it’s about preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:48 PM
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You’re confusing men who want casual sex with men who want a long-term partner. A guy who doesn’t want a relationship might sleep with anyone. But if he’s looking for something serious, he’ll probably prefer someone who hasn’t been with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:40 PM
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That’s why it’s better to be with a woman who didn’t have her "wild years" and then just settle down with you out of convenience or stability. Find someone who actually wants that passion, adventure, and life with you, not someone who already burned through all that with others. Yeah, it’s harder to find, but it’s worth it for a real connection, not duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 07:59 PM
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Is it hypocritical? Sure, maybe. But most dating preferences can be. I'm 6'1" and 210 lbs, does that mean I should only date women who are the same? My fiancée is 5'1" and half my weight. Are we both hypocrites because we don't mirror each other? Same with personality, if one person is shy and the other isn't, does that make them hypocrites too? Your money and education example works the same way. You can call it hypocrisy, but trying to label someone as misogynist or misandrist for who they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:10 AM
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Yes? You know you don’t have to hate someone just because you’re not attracted to them, right? It’s really not that deep. Preference isn’t prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:41 AM
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You mentioned that confidence is an objectively healthy trait. Fair enough. But isn’t sexual selectiveness also a reasonable trait, especially in a relationship context? Just like confidence, it can signal self-respect, discernment, and long-term orientation. So why is it that when men express a preference for less sexually experienced women, without shaming anyone, they're suddenly suspect of misogyny? Sure, men who sleep around a lot aren’t necessarily ideal either, but let’s be honest, most g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:08 AM
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The thing is, women can openly say they’re not into short guys, or guys who cry often, or guys who aren’t good in bed, and almost no one calls that misandry. I wouldn’t either. If a woman says she’s not attracted to men who cry a lot, I don’t jump to “she hates men.” Attraction isn’t always fair. I don’t think the crying example is totally equal to promiscuity, but I get the idea. Still, if a man says he’s more attracted to a less promiscuous woman, that’s suddenly framed as hate, even without s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:55 PM
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Then an unattractive woman being into handsome guys is misandry too. These examples don’t make sense, right? Same with sexual experience, if there’s no shaming, it’s not hate and no misogyny. It’s just an attraction. And women have every right to feel attraction for non-promiscuous guys as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:59 PM
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Then by that logic, shy short women who prefer tall confident guys are misandrist too, right? Got it! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:42 PM
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Simple explanation? For a lot of men, it’s just attractive. No different than how most women find tall men attractive. Sure, people will say it’s evolutionary, tall men could protect better. But even in a perfectly safe world, most women would still prefer taller guys. It's just a natural preference. Same thing applies here. Biologically, men have been shown to be more drawn to less sexually experienced women. There are theories about evolutionary reasons, like reduced risk of sperm competition.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:38 PM
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So before knowing the reason, can we at least agree it’s not fair to immediately call it misogyny? Sometimes there isn’t even a deeper reason, it could just be what a guy finds attractive, plain and simple. Just like women don’t always need to justify what traits they’re drawn to, men shouldn’t always have to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:58 PM
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But without knowing a man's actual reason for preferring a less experienced partner, I don't think it's fair to automatically label it misogyny. Just to clarify, I'm not one of those men, I personally see sex as something special, meant to be shared with someone important. But I do know guys who are more promiscuous but still prefer a less promiscuous woman for a relationship. They don’t hate women or hold sexist views, they just have a certain idea of what they want long-term. Yes, misogyny is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:53 PM
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So if an experienced woman prefers a virgin guy, is that misandry or misogyny in your view? Personally, I’d just call it a preference. Why is it a problem to want traits in a partner that you don’t have yourself? We do it all the time, looks, money, personality, height, fitness, but for some reason, when it comes to sexual experience, we suddenly draw a moral line (only for guys)? That logic feels selective. It should go both ways and apply equally to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:54 PM
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Not even talking about feminism here, but I don’t really see the issue with a guy having a high body count yet preferring a woman with a lower one, as long as he’s not shaming anyone for it. People are allowed to have preferences, even if they don’t mirror their own past. Same goes for women too. You don’t need to match a trait just to prefer it in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:23 PM
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Fair enough. Different countries can have different rules and perspectives, and that’s okay. Thanks for the polite discussion:)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:43 PM
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Why even bring up the girlfriend thing if you don’t agree with OP’s stance in the first place? But yeah, I get that not having a car in the U.S. can really suck. Still, wouldn’t it make more sense for the government to invest in proper public transport instead of trying to redefine adulthood and change the entire legal structure around it? And even then, an age gap between two consenting adults only affects them. Meanwhile, putting someone who’s not mentally ready behind the wheel can endanger e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:28 PM
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That’s fair, and we can respectfully agree to disagree. But since you brought up driving, don’t you think someone should also be considered an adult to drive? You said adulthood begins when someone is fully mentally and physically mature, which you placed somewhere in the early 20s. But driving literally involves operating a machine that can kill people at high speed with one wrong move. I’d argue that’s far more dangerous than some of the other things you mentioned. So if someone isn’t mentally…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:14 PM
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But we’re not talking about cases like medical conditions or historical child labor. We’re talking about regular, everyday life for a mentally and physically healthy adult. Where I’m from, everything you listed, voting, drinking, fully working, military service, driving, etc, is allowed at 18. And guess what? We have fewer issues than what I constantly hear about from Americans, even though we’re more relaxed about defining adulthood. Also, the topic isn’t about minors. It’s about adults. So let…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:55 PM
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But you do understand that 18-year-olds are not minors, they’re legally considered adults. Even our grandparents were building full lives by 18 or 20. Have we somehow evolved differently in just two generations? So just to clarify, are you suggesting the legal age of adulthood should be raised to 25 or something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:55 PM
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Yeah, I also don’t get it. I’m from the eu, and a lot of us are already kinda over alcohol by 18 😅 So yeah, I genuinely don’t understand that part about the U.S. Btw, in general, do you agree with my actual point about the OP’s topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:26 PM
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“I’m tired of the ‘18 years old is an adult’ argument.” But it’s not just an argument, it’s the legal reality. At 18, you're considered an adult. You can vote, join the military, live on your own, take out loans, buy cigarettes and alcohol, but apparently, dating another adult is where we draw the line? That doesn’t make sense. You don’t get to pick and choose when someone is an adult based on feelings. Either they’re legally responsible or they’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:44 PM
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What kind of questions are these 😅 but, sure, let’s bite the bait haha Yes: doesn’t drink alcohol, doesn’t like physical activity, dislikes religion (as long as she doesn’t shame others), her dream is to get married and have kids, doesn’t believe in marriage (as long as she still wants a committed relationship), can only spend time once a week (at the beginning if it’s long distance), believes it’s a woman’s job to stay home and raise the kids (if that’s her choice), frequently responds with “oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:27 AM
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Yes: Different race, lives 1000 miles away (at the beginning), quiet, lives with her parents, dislikes video games. No: Different religion, smokes, goes to church every Sunday, asexual, alcoholic, does OF, has two kids, very talkative, 50+ partners, waiting until marriage, taller than me, only wants to be a stay-at-home mom (I’d want that when it's financially possible), gets drunk and hungover weekly, in a sorority, refuses to have kids, in the military, is 6'3", 200 pounds, has the same first …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:50 PM
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Yeah exactly lol. And if you ever follow their relationship advice, you might as well just break up immediately. Most of it sounds like a fast track to being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:39 PM
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Yes and no. I never really cared about makeup, so that’s never been an issue. She enjoys dressing modestly and looking nice, so I’ve never had to set any standards there, she does it because she wants to. Physique and hairstyle are still the same as in the beginning. As for shaving, if she skips it from time to time, it’s no big deal. But overall, things have pretty much stayed the same as they were a few years ago when we started dating:)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:35 PM
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Men are more likely to be transphobic? Genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:41 PM
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I don't “seek out” men either, I haven’t made a new friend in like 4 years since finishing uni. Most friendships just naturally happen through life or shared interests. As for your second comment, job: I don’t care, as long as it’s a normal everyday job. Politics: Also don’t care unless you’re an extremist on either side, then I’m out. Education: I don’t value men or women based on a degree. If you have common sense and basic life skills, that’s enough. Friends: Yeah I care, if you hang with tox…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:35 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate that! Sincere disagreement doesn’t have to mean disrespect:) Have a good day!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:01 PM
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Again, do whatever you want, even if I knew you in real life, I wouldn’t give you crap for it. But I’m still allowed to have my own opinion. I’m not here to shame you or anyone else, I just don’t agree with your view. So we can politely agree to disagree, right?:)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 11:50 AM
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But that’s the one big difference where we’re not going to find common ground. You and your partner are the only reason the pregnancy exists. There’s zero excuse (aside from SA), it’s literally your own actions that caused it. In my mind, murder isn’t justified just because “it’s not the right time". My view has nothing to do with religion or politics, I’m not religious, and I’m not some right-wing guy. It’s purely about morals for me. That said, I don’t care what you do. You want to kill your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 11:29 AM
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In cases like illegal organ harvesting, yes, forcing someone to use their body is clearly wrong. But abortion is more complex. It’s not just about bodily autonomy, it’s also about ending a life that you directly helped create. Even if you call it a “potential life,” it’s still a developing human with no say in the situation. That added moral weight makes it different from just declining to donate an organ. Do what you want, just don’t expect others to applaud killing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:51 AM
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Yeah I get that, but look, I’m engaged now and I used to have plenty of female acquaintances (still do a few), so communication isn’t the issue. It just never really moved from acquaintance to actual friendship, not because I couldn’t talk to them, but because of a lack of shared experiences. Women don’t have male experiences, and that naturally gives us a different perspective on things. So it’s more about worldview than social skill, for me at least. Now that I’m in a relationship, I wouldn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:12 PM
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Alright:)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 07:41 PM
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Even if we know each other, again, I won't tell you what to do:)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:25 PM
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We can calmly agree to disagree:)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:09 PM
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Well again, I'm not religious or political about it, I don’t make the laws, but I personally think it’s immoral. Will I stop you from having an abortion, kill a random person, or doing anything else with your life? No, I don't care. It’s your choice, I just think killing is wrong, whether it’s a person or unborn child. Would I care if a friend did it? Yeah, I probably wouldn’t be friends with them anymore, so they can go do whatever they want. So yeah, do what you want :) Just don’t expect every…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:50 AM
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Actions have consequences, regardless of gender. If someone ends up in a tough spot because of choices they made, like sleeping around without knowing the baby daddy, that’s not society punishing them, that’s the result of their own decisions. Responsibility applies to everyone equally. If someone gets pregnant by a good, responsible man who sticks around, they’re much less likely to end up in poverty. It’s not about hating women, it’s about being accountable, which is something you don't know I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:52 AM
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Yeah, and it’s also easy to not abandon your values just because life hasn’t thrown you into chaos yet. Responsibility isn’t something you turn on when it’s convenient😉
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:08 PM
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Since I have my morals in check, it absolutely would affect me, if my fiancée got pregnant, my life would change completely too. Responsibility doesn’t skip men who choose to step up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:57 PM
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Then we just see responsibility in a different way, nothing is wrong with that:)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:33 PM
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Thanks dude :) I genuinely tried having female friends but it never really clicked past the acquaintance phase, just different life experiences, especially since they’re not living the same male reality. Still hang out in group settings with my fiancée’s friends and coworkers tho. But yeah, by her definition, we’re misogynists for not liking all women just because they’re women. Guess we hate men too then since we don’t befriend everyone with a Y chromosome 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:53 PM
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Just vibing at this point, my man:) Still waiting on the exact definition of misogyny that includes “not actively seeking female friends.” I guess that clarification got lost somewhere between the assumptions and the outrage 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:39 PM
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There would be no risk if people didn’t have sex until they were ready to handle the possible consequences. Again, you do you, I’m not telling anyone what to do, just pointing out that personal responsibility matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:11 PM
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Again, it’s called accountability and taking responsibility. If you play with fire indoors and burn the house down, no one’s going to say, “Well that was just a mistake, let’s all pay for it.” You’d be blamed, because you knew the risk and acted anyway. And yeah, it might be hard financially at first, but I’d rather work my ass off for my family than end a life to avoid discomfort. My fiancée agrees, we’re both on the same page. I don’t “walk away” because of my morals. If anything, it's the peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:23 PM
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Agree. I don’t know why he even mentioned genetics, it’s pretty clear most women are considered attractive as long as they’re not fat. Meanwhile, a skinny guy is usually just seen as weak or invisible. Plus, some guys even prefer bigger women (curves or something), but very few women prefer a weak-looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:05 AM
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I don’t know how it works in your country, but where I’m from, if you cause a car crash, your insurance covers the other person’s medical bills. So yes, your actions do make you financially responsible, even if you’re not physically forced to donate. Different context entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:39 AM
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Fair enough, we clearly see things differently, so I’ll just leave it at that:)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:37 AM
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You’re missing the point. I never said abortion is always irresponsible. I said if you're taking a known risk and aren't ready to handle the possible outcome, that's irresponsible. Me and my fiancée aren't ready to have a baby either, but we know the risk exists, so if it happened, we’d take responsibility. That's what being an adult means. It's not about punishment, it's about accountability. And no, it's not ironic, it's consistent. If you aren't ready to accept the consequences of pregnancy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:34 AM
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For the first part, if a drunk driver causes harm, we still hold them responsible because they chose to get behind the wheel. Same with sex, consenting to it means accepting the known risk of pregnancy. And for the second part, so if a woman is alone on an island with her 1-year-old, and no one else can take care of it, it’s morally fine to kill the child? That logic doesn’t really hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:30 AM
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I mean it's okay, I'm not religious or political about it, I just made one comment and didn’t expect this much drama haha. I don’t even have these kinds of debates in real life. But if someone says ending a potential human life is “fine” just because it won’t know any different… that logic could justify a lot of dark things. Some things carry moral weight even if they’re inconvenient to talk about. But anyway do what you want:)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:25 AM
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But you already consented to the possibility of pregnancy by having sex, that’s the whole point (excluding SA, of course). By that logic, I could argue it’s okay to kill a 6-month-old or a 1-year-old, because they also can’t survive without your constant care. Just because they rely on you doesn’t make it okay to end their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:22 AM
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Because that “unnecessary consequence” is ending a human life that would’ve had an entire future. Just because something is difficult doesn’t mean we ignore the moral weight of what’s being done.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:19 AM
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A baby isn’t just using your body, it’s a life that exists because of your actions. That’s morally different than refusing to donate an organ to someone already dying. Bodily autonomy matters, but so does responsibility when your choices create life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:16 AM
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And if that small 1–3% chance is still too big of a risk for you, then maybe just wait until you’re actually ready to accept the possibility of pregnancy. That's the responsible thing to do. If what you’re saying is true and most abortions are from older women who already have kids, then why not take permanent steps? There’s surgery available for both men and women to eliminate pregnancy risk entirely. Also, you're missing the point of the analogy. A normal driver is like someone who knows the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:14 AM
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Because exceptions exist for most things in life. Killing is wrong, yet we make exceptions for self-defense or executing serial killers and pedophiles. That doesn’t mean we view killing casually, it means context matters. Abortion isn’t some binary issue of “right” or “wrong” in all cases. There’s a difference between a tragic exception and using it recklessly as birth control. It’s not about “punishment,” it’s about consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:07 AM
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Abortion isn’t just about donation, it’s about intentionally ending a life, not passively refusing to give part of your body. Refusing to donate something doesn’t create life and then destroy it, abortion does. There’s a massive moral difference between withholding help and actively taking a life. And again, you choose to become pregnant and knew the risk. But you didn’t cause their illness, and they knew there was a chance the donor might back out in the end. Sure, if you can create a law that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:02 AM
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Really? Let’s be honest, what are the actual chances of getting pregnant if you use a male (or female) condom, birth control pills, IUD, and the pull-out method all together? Less than 0.01%? If you still think the risk is too high even then, maybe the responsible choice is to simply not have sex until you're ready to face the possible outcomes, including pregnancy. That’s called accountability. And as for the car analogy, if someone knowingly drives drunk, just like knowingly having sex without…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:54 AM
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Sure, even if that situation is bad too, how often does it actually happen? We're talking about an extremely rare case compared to something like abortion, which happens millions of times a year. It's not a realistic 1:1 comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:47 AM
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The difference is, pregnancy is a direct result of your own actions, you created the life. With stem cell donation, you're helping with someone else's condition you didn’t cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:41 AM
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I'm not against abortion entirely, I think it should absolutely be allowed in cases like proven SA, health risks, or severe fetal issues. But using it casually as birth control, when the risk of pregnancy is a known outcome of sex, feels like avoiding responsibility for a choice that was made willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:39 AM
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Then why else would you use it outside of the exceptions I already mentioned? If it's just "not the right time," then yeah, use multiple forms of birth control at the same time or don’t have sex. Actions come with consequences, and you can’t always expect to avoid all of them without responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:36 AM
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The stem donor example doesn’t fully apply, there’s no direct responsibility for creating the patient’s condition. In contrast, pregnancy is a known outcome of sex, so choosing to engage in it means playing a role in creating the situation. Revoking consent to donate is passive, abortion is an active choice to end a life that exists because of prior actions. They’re fundamentally different contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:33 AM
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No, I think abortion is justified in cases like danger to the mother’s health, severe baby deformities, or proven SA. But I personally don’t agree with using it as a form of birth control just because it’s "not the right time". Actions have consequences, and that’s where responsibility should come in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:28 AM
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But in that case, you already gave consent when you chose to have sex. Pregnancy doesn’t just happen randomly, it’s a known possible outcome of sex, even with protection. I'm not talking about cases involving SA, risks to the mother’s life, or severe fetal deformities, those are entirely different discussions. What I’m referring to is using abortion as a form of birth control, after willingly taking an action that can lead to pregnancy. In that case, it’s not about someone forcing your body, it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:26 AM
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Unless you're talking about SA, no one is forcing you to be pregnant. It's a consequence of choices, pregnancy doesn’t just randomly happen out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:11 AM
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Not much to debate really… it’s just the world we live in, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:06 AM
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Not much to debate really… it’s just the world we live in, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:59 AM
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I’m really not sure about that, man. Maybe we could call them something in between a friend and an acquaintance. I mean, I would never meet with them without my fiancée or randomly text them. And I wouldn’t have deep, personal conversations with them like I do with my actual (male) friends. So yeah, hanging out together, like double dates and group stuff, is fun, but I wouldn’t call that a real, personal friendship. Still, I guess they’re closer than, say, a female classmate from uni or someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:20 PM
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Man, just give up, not worth it. She’s stuck in her narrow view and will always twist things just to keep the argument going.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:36 PM
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It's not really sad if we’re both genuinely happy:) I'm not judging anyone or telling others what to do, just sharing what works for us. I actually get along well with my future sister-in-law (she is considered family), and we do hang out with her female friends and coworkers too, go out, have fun, all good vibes. But I don’t really consider that friendship in the one-on-one sense. I wouldn’t hang out with them alone or randomly text them. It’s more like “couple friends”, we meet them as a coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:21 PM
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Not every person here is out to get you, I genuinely wished you good luck:)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:46 AM
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Same here, I agree. Not every guy is desperate, sometimes it’s just not fun or interesting to talk to them, that’s all. And I just don’t get the same kind of benefits from those friendships like I do with male friends. But again, I’m not telling others what to do, just sharing my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:43 AM
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Having acquaintances and having friends are different things to me. I’ve had plenty of female acquaintances, in school, uni, gym, etc. I can socialize just fine and don’t have an issue talking to women. I even tried building closer friendships a few times, but for me personally, it just never really worked or felt natural. So it’s not about avoiding women or having trauma, I just don’t feel the need to form deep friendships with them, especially now that I’m in a relationship. It’s just a prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 06:41 AM
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Are you a feminist? If you are, I genuinely wanna say thanks for the calm convo, it’s super rare to see that on reddit. Just a few thoughts on what you wrote.. You mentioned the right to feel safe walking home. I get that, and yes, women face a higher risk of SA. But guys aren’t exactly walking home stress-free either. The risk is different, for men, it’s often getting jumped or even killed. So both genders have their fears, just in different forms. About abortion, yeah... that’s a separate conv…
/r/MensRights29/05/25 06:30 AM
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And that’s exactly why I’ll marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:47 AM
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Well, it’s reddit, I made the original comment fully expecting some backlash, especially as a guy answering. I have no reason to feel bitter, people are free to live how they want. I just shared my experience, and if some folks have a problem with that, that’s on them. I really appreciate your comment, thank you:)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:45 AM
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Thank you! And yeah that’s totally fair. I get that some people naturally connect better with the opposite gender. For me, I just bond easier with guys because we usually share more interests or ways of thinking. But I respect how you approach it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:35 AM
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I don’t think it sounds concerning at all. Also, outside of this post, I literally never even think about that. I just enjoy the friendships and relationship that feel natural to me, and that’s more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 05:32 AM
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Not sure if you're replying to the right comment, but alright. If you can't see the difference between friendship and a relationship, that's not on me. And no, I don't dismiss advice because someone is a woman, I dismiss bad advice from people who lack male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:52 PM
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Being best friends in a relationship doesn’t mean we’re the same or that she needs to offer me male-specific advice. I go to her for love, support, and partnership, I go to my guy friends for advice that makes sense from a male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:47 PM
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Firstly, I don’t have female friends right now because I’m in a relationship. But even before that, as I mentioned in my comment, I never really got anything meaningful from female friendships. The advice usually wasn’t useful to me as a man, I wasn’t interested in emotional dumping or drama, and overall I just didn’t get the kind of value I get from male friendships. That’s also what makes my fiancée different. She’s the woman I want to hang out with, listen to, support, and open up to, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:34 PM
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Thank you, going stronger every year! I wish you good luck as well!:)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:15 PM
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But it’s not just about interests, it’s about seeing the world through a man’s eyes. I’ve never received advice from a female friend that was actually helpful as a man. Male friends get where I’m coming from because we share the same challenges and experiences. And sure, I’ve had female acquaintances, people at the gym, basketball (my hobby), or even my fiancée’s friends when we hang out. But that’s not real, deep friendship. Also, now that I’m in a relationship, me and my fiancée both agree on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:12 PM
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Well, I don’t plan to get divorced or break up, so yeah, I’m also not planning on having female friends. I bring up my fiancée because I already mentioned we both agreed that opposite gender friendships aren't something we’re okay with in our relationship. So regardless of how I feel about female friendships in general, it wouldn’t change anything while I’m with her. By your logic, we could say you're biased too:)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:02 PM
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So? What’s the point? I’m from EU and I haven’t even seen a black person in years where I live, so obviously I don’t have much in common or opportunity to build friendships. And even if I lived in the US, everyone has the right to choose their friends. As long as you’re not shaming or mistreating anyone, it’s not an issue. As for why I don’t have female friends? I’m engaged, and both my fiancée and I are on the same page about not having opposite gender friendships while in a relationship. Simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:57 PM
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Do things for me? Are we really going there now? I don’t treat people based on their gender, if you’re a stranger, I’ll treat you with the same respect whether you’re a man or a woman. And for the third time, can you please point out exactly which part of my comment was misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:46 PM
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I don’t like women? I love my fiancée, my mother, and the women in my family. Once again, where did I say I don’t like women or say anything remotely misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:39 PM
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Me neither! I'd genuinely appreciate if you could point out which part of my reply was misogynistic? I simply shared my personal experience and preferences, not a judgment on anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:35 PM
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I'm not biased, the main reason is I’m engaged to an amazing woman I want to spend my life with, and we’re both on the same page when it comes to opposite gender friendships in a relationship. So even if I thought female friendships were amazing before (which I didn’t), it wouldn’t change anything now, I’m planning to be with my fiancée for good:)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:33 PM
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Me personally, I most likely wouldn’t. First, I’m engaged, and second, as I mentioned before, I’ve never really gotten anything meaningful out of friendships with women. I don’t mind being acquaintances, but actual friendship (close)? Not really. To be fair, I only have a few male friends too, and I’m not actively looking for more either. But yeah, my preference still stands. But for other people? I’m not judging anyone. It’s their life, they can do what works for them. Why would I care haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:22 PM
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That makes sense, but my comment still stands, it’s not about all men or all friendships, just that for lots of us, male friendships tend to be more valuable or comfortable. It’s just preference, not some deep hatred of women haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:05 PM
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Why are some people so obsessed with men needing to have female friends? There’s literally nothing wrong with preferring to hang out with your own gender. I don’t have female friends now because I’m in a relationship, but even before that, I rarely did. Most of the time it came with drama, emotional dumping, no shared interests, like zero benefits from friendship (and no, I’m not talking about sex, I mean actual, mutual value). I’m not saying men and women can’t be friends, but let’s stop acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:36 PM
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And I never said otherwise. In fact, when I was completely broke, I took care of most of the chores at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:42 PM
1

Ah, no problem then:)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:18 PM
1

Yes? When did I say any of that? You’re arguing against a point I never made😅
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:24 PM
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First of all, just to clarify, we're talking about modern, developed countries here, right? I'm from Europe, not the US, but I assume the situation is fairly similar. So can you tell me, what rights do women not have that men do? As far as I know, we have the same rights under the law. Pay gap? If that were truly the result of discrimination, companies would hire only women to save money. But that’s not what’s happening. And in sports lots of times they get paid more (%), just look at football (…
/r/MensRights28/05/25 03:39 PM
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Yes, that’s exactly what I meant, be the person you promised to be when you got married. Of course people can grow, but if one person changes something major (like deciding not to have kids when it was agreed on before) and they’re not open to talking, even counseling, then yeah, I think divorce makes sense at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:51 PM
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Feminism used to be about equality, equal rights, equal pay, equal opportunities for both men and women. And for the most part, in many modern countries, we’ve made huge progress on those fronts. But today, especially in western societies, the term often feels hijacked. It no longer represents true equality, instead, it pushes superiority or resentment toward men. That’s why many men (and even some women) feel alienated by modern feminism. It lost its original meaning for a lot of people.
/r/MensRights28/05/25 01:47 PM
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And yeah, you're absolutely allowed to feel that way. I also don’t personally need marriage, but it means a lot to my fiancée, so I’m doing it for her with no problem. Married or not, I’d never just give up easily because of some obstacles, as long as we’re both willing to work through things together, that’s what matters most to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:40 PM
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I think babies should never be solely the woman’s responsibility, at least that’s definitely not how it works in my relationship. As for your second point, I completely agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:36 PM
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I get your point, but I think it depends on the issue. People change, sure, but calling for divorce right away without even trying to work things out still feels wrong to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:32 PM
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I mostly agree, but I think a lot of people give up too quickly. These days, especially online like on reddit, the first advice is almost always “just divorce” instead of trying therapy, counseling, or working things out first (and yeah I know, it's a bit different IRL, but still..)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:28 PM
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Ah, my bad, then I agree with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:22 PM
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True, OP is, my bad. I just added my own take based on what I’ve seen. It goes both ways more often than people admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:22 PM
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I actually agree with you, neither side should change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:19 PM
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But you’re acting like women don’t do that as well. The difference is, men are still most likely to stay and keep trying even when the woman completely changes after marriage (and no, I don't have statistics, just observations).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:14 PM
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Calling it “scamming” is wild when statistically, women initiate the majority of divorces and often push for marriage in the first place. Men typically have less to gain and more to lose legally and financially. If a man pulls back effort after marriage (and women also do that), maybe it’s because the dynamic changed once he was no longer being constantly tested or undervalued. Blame isn’t one-sided, it’s about mutual responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:09 PM
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Yeah exactly. I think part of the problem also starts with how some of these men are raised. Like when a mom tries to raise a "feminist son" by giving him feminist books and slapping that label on him from a young age. It’s honestly unnecessary. You can teach a boy to respect both genders without turning it into some political identity. Feminism is a political and ideological movement, and pushing that onto kids before they can even think for themselves feels wrong. Where is this world going if …
/r/MensRights28/05/25 11:53 AM
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Yeah I agree. I’ve tried debating a few feminists before and genuinely tried to be neutral and in good faith, but most of the time, especially online, it’s just impossible to find middle ground. So I really don’t get the guys who support them blindly, feminists don’t even care about them.
/r/MensRights27/05/25 09:09 PM
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Man with opinion will automatically be a misogynist on reddit. Look up some feminist subs, they even attack their own guy feminists, it's hilarious really..
/r/MensRights27/05/25 07:38 PM
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Tell me, who do you think is harder to debate with, a smart person capable of critical thinking, or someone kinda slow, who only sees the world through "me, me, me" and can’t accept that people are different? I’ll trust you’re smart enough to guess which one 😉 As for my point (in case it still isn’t clear): people express themselves differently, not everyone does it your way. You’ve been kinda entertaining, but I’ve already spent too much time debating with someone who doesn’t actually want a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:54 AM
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You haven’t addressed mine either, so let’s just agree to disagree and call it a day:)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:41 AM
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It wouldn’t be a problem if women commented on male friendships, if they actually understood how they usually work. But when you clearly have no idea how it works for 90% of men, and still feel entitled to mock it, then yeah, your opinion doesn’t hold much weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:36 AM
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Oh we’ve reached satanic rituals? Haha. I’m gonna assume you’re a woman based on how emotional your replies are, and that you have zero clue how most male friendships actually work. Maybe go cry to your girlfriends and leave male friendships, something you clearly have no business being part of, alone 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:27 AM
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Finally someone who actually understands that people deal with things differently. Respect💪
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:21 AM
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Bro can't admit that not all 8 billion people express emotions the same exact your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:18 AM
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You’re reading way too much into something I never said. I never claimed my friends wouldn’t cry in front of me, I just said they haven’t, since not all the population needs to show emotions your way. Everyone handles emotions in their own way, and that doesn’t make their friendships less supportive or real. You keep trying to fit me into a mold I don’t belong to just because I don’t mirror your emotional style. Come on, respect goes both ways..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:11 AM
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Maybe because we’re different people with different kinds of friendships? Not everyone needs to cry to show emotions. Again, I’m not saying your way is wrong, you’re the one judging others for how they relate. If I told you my friends and I cope through dark humor (we don't, it's just an example), would it be fair for me to say your friendships are fake just because you don’t relate that way? Of course not. People connect differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:50 PM
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No idea, I don’t have friends who express themselves like that. But if you’re trying to "gotcha" me, then no, I wouldn’t laugh at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:43 PM
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We talk openly, joke around, vent when life gets rough, and always have each other’s backs. Just because we don’t cry or hug doesn’t mean we’re emotionally blocked, we just express things differently. That doesn’t make it less real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:38 PM
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You can cry to your friends as much as you want, I’m not saying your friendships are less valid. So why are you implying that mine are, just because we don’t express emotions the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:33 PM
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Did I even mention "real men" or did you just invent that part? I literally said friendships don’t need to involve crying or hugging to be valid, not that they shouldn’t (since most male friendships aren’t based on that anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:28 PM
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You don’t need to hug or cry with your guy friends to consider it a real friendship. That doesn’t make the friendship any less valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:18 PM
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Women didn’t ask? You’re the one that replied to my comment first (which was literally about agreeing with her that she can choose whoever she wants and that it’s totally her choice). Yeah, I’m done. Let’s just agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:18 AM
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You’re not actually responding to what I said, you’re responding to a version of me you made up. I never said accomplishments don’t matter, I said most guys don’t equate degrees with intelligence or attraction, and that not caring about a degree doesn’t mean we’re unsupportive. I literally explained I value intelligence, support my partner fully, and don’t judge people based on diplomas, not in dating, not even with my guy friends. At this point, it feels like you’re either trolling or just not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:06 AM
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Totally valid preference, I never said you should. I just asked because you mentioned “ambition of some kind,” so alongside career, I thought maybe having a family could count too. But I fully respect your choice:)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:52 PM
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I never said women’s accomplishments don’t matter. I said most men don’t equate a degree with intelligence, and that having one isn’t a factor in attraction for many guys. That’s not self-centered, it’s just honest. Everyone has preferences, and mine (like most men I know) aren’t based on diplomas. It doesn’t mean we’re unsupportive or don’t care about someone’s goals. You’re arguing against a version of me that doesn’t exist. And honestly, it’s not even just about dating, I don’t care if my guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:48 PM
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You’re making a lot of assumptions about me based on one comment. I never said intelligence or critical thinking don’t matter, I said a degree doesn’t define that. If that sounds controversial, maybe you’re the one stuck in a circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:37 PM
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I have a degree. Not caring if someone else has one doesn’t make you uneducated, it just means you don’t think a piece of paper defines someone’s value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:30 PM
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Do I tell her I value her for who she is and not because of her degree? No, I don’t need to, it’s just common sense for most guys. And no, I’m not part of the manosphere or any of that nonsense. I don’t need to fit into one of your labels to say that guys have preferences, that they find certain traits attractive, and simply don’t care about others. Do I find intelligence attractive? Yes. Do I find a degree attractive? No, I just don’t care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:23 PM
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I have a degree, and so does my fiancée, but I don’t care about it, and I would’ve chosen her even if she didn’t have one. Same goes for most of my guy friends, they have degrees but don’t consider it important in a partner. Not caring about a degree doesn’t make someone a bad person. I’m from the eu, where you don’t go into student debt just to get a degree, so even the least capable person can get a basic degree in something useless. It doesn’t prove intelligence. Most guys (at least those tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:12 PM
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Glad we cleared that up, champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:34 PM
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I value a woman’s intelligence, but I don’t equate that with having a degree. So what does that make me in your eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:30 PM
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I never said guys want women without a degree, just that they don't care if they do or don't have one. It's usually not a dealbreaker for a guy, just from what I've noticed about most men I've met in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:24 PM
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Having a degree has almost nothing to do with intelligence. And just because a woman doesn’t have a degree doesn’t make her any less of a woman compared to one who does. It’s sad that you view women that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:08 PM
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You can call them “worthless losers” if you want, but if the only reason is that they didn’t care about a woman having a degree, then maybe you’re filtering out good men for no real reason. Most guys just value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:03 PM
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You’re very welcome to choose one of those men who care if a woman has a degree, that’s totally your choice. But most men simply don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:57 PM
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Is being a mother sufficient ambition, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:29 PM
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Yeah, I said it before, a degree doesn’t mean anything about being truly smart or intelligent. But let’s be honest, if you ask 100 women whether they prefer a guy with a degree, without one, or don’t care (without any extra context), most will say they prefer the guy with a degree. If you ask most men, they’ll say they don’t care. I’m not saying women should or shouldn’t have a degree, just pointing out that guys usually don’t find someone more attractive just because they have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:17 PM
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That’s why it makes sense why men usually don’t really care if a woman has a degree or not, while women usually do care about that in men. And I’m not saying a degree means someone is actually smart, it’s just that men and women are attracted to different things. We just value different traits, and it’s not that deep. It’s not about being intimidated, it’s just that what impresses one side doesn’t always matter to the other. Simple as that..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:09 PM
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Yeah, but the thing is, some women do dress that way to attract attention, and some don’t. How can anyone know which is which just by looking? You can’t. But regardless of the intent, wearing revealing clothes will get attention from guys, if you want it or not. Add that to clubbing with other single friends, drinking, and having a boyfriend at home, I don’t care what she says her intent is, most guys will assume she’s single and try to hit on her. Again, I’m not telling anyone how to live. I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:41 PM
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Yeah, we can just agree to disagree on that one :) I’m not saying anything bad about anyone, but if I see a girl out on a friday night wearing something super revealing, I’d probably assume she’s single. Most guys would, and yeah, they’d probably shoot their shot, which her boyfriend probably wouldn’t be thrilled about. At the end of the day, people can do whatever they want. I’m not here to tell anyone how to live. But it’s usually the more “modern” crowd that throws shade at people with more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:31 PM
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Yeah I get what you’re saying, and I agree, boundaries are for yourself. If someone crosses them, you don’t try to control them, you just leave. Simple as that. I’m not 100% sure what tradcon fully means, but yeah, I guess I lean more traditional. My fiancée’s the same, so it just works for us. And yeah, I’m not trying to change anyone. Most of the time it’s better to just date someone with similar values. I just meant if everything else feels right, it’s not crazy to try and talk about a few bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:24 PM
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I mean, most people do prefer monogamy. But even if the guy explicitly asks for it, it’s still reasonable to expect that she’d stop doing things that are more common for single people, like sleeping around, clubbing, or wearing super revealing clothes. And the same goes for guys. It’s also fair to expect a man in a relationship not to be drinking with friends every night, playing games nonstop after work, or spending money on onlyfans/ cam girls. Sure, it’s usually easier to just date someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:56 PM
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I’m not saying you’re wrong, but by that logic, if a guy knows a woman has a past of sleeping around, he’ll probably expect her to stop that once they’re in a relationship, just like with revealing clothes or clubbing. It’s not about controlling, it’s just that some behaviors are more common for single people. That said, you’re right in most cases, it’s just unnecessary drama to try to change someone who doesn’t share your values. It’s way better to date someone who already lives by the standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:46 PM
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For me and my fiancée, we don’t really have female/male friends because it just feels more respectful that way, especially not hanging out 1 on 1. But even before I was with her, when I was single, I never really got any benefits from female friends. I don’t mean sex or anything like that, just in general. If I needed advice or support, it was 100x better asking a guy. And they usually brought drama I didn’t need in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:08 PM
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Yeah I get that, and I’m sure some guys definitely think that way. But for a lot of others, it’s not even about jealousy or comparison, it’s just a personal preference, like any other. Some people prefer certain body types, others care about past experiences. Doesn’t always mean it’s insecurity, sometimes it’s just what someone values or feels more comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:26 AM
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Yeah I kinda agree with you, but I’d still say there are way more non-promiscuous guys who care about a woman’s past than there are women who care about a guy’s. And don’t forget, a lot of guys (promiscuous or not) would still be cool being in a relationship with a virgin with no past at all (but usually not just hooking up). Meanwhile, most women wouldn’t go for a guy who’s a complete virgin with zero experience, since they’d think he wouldn’t be able to satisfy them (obviously, there are excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:09 AM
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Yeah, I get that you wanted sex too, so it was mutual in the moment. But the whole “used” thing usually comes up later when someone’s looking for a serious relationship. Some guys see a woman’s promiscuous past as a turn-off and feel like she’s already given that part of herself away to others. It’s not really the same with guys, women usually don’t care as much about a guy’s past. It’s a double standard, yeah, but that’s where the difference in perception comes from. But specifically "You don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:58 AM
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First of fall, I don’t think name calling is ever okay. But anyway, I think when people say stuff like “being used,” they’re really just trying to shame women the same way calling them “wh***s” would. A lot of guys view casual sex differently and care more about a woman’s sexual past, it’s just how it is. Everyone’s allowed to have their preferences, just don’t be a jerk to people who live differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:40 AM
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So basically, the guy wouldn’t get to pass on his genes at all? Yeah, I’d rather stay single than be with someone who sees me as just a placeholder while picking someone else’s dna.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:57 PM
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Exactly <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:25 PM
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Fully agree. The moment someone has to say it about themselves, it kind of defeats the point. Real value is shown, not declared:)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:19 PM
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He can have all those traits, but the moment he calls himself a ‘high value man,’ he probably isn’t one. That’s something others should say about you, not something you label yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:48 PM
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Exactly:) Bye!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:43 PM
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Likewise, I’m bored of misogyny. Bye! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:33 PM
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Did I say trans women aren’t women? I said opposite biological sexes shouldn’t share the same private spaces, big difference. And now you're saying the majority should be taught to feel comfortable with something most find uncomfortable? That’s not progress, that’s forcing ideology. Also, I never mentioned homosexuality, are you mixing terms now? And really... comparing biological reality to race or skin color? You’re comparing this to historical racism while defending something still listed as …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:27 PM
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There’s nothing political about wanting to protect women’s privacy and comfort, it’s just basic common sense in most of the world. If you're really supportive, then push for coed or neutral spaces instead of demanding that everyone adjust for a tiny minority. It’s not just about SA, it’s about comfort and boundaries. Most women at my gym would feel extremely uncomfortable undressing next to a biological man who’s fully naked and showing stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:07 PM
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You suspected correctly, I’m a biological man, so of course I’ve never been in a women’s bathroom. Congrats on the deduction. But let’s not pretend this is only about bathrooms, locker rooms and changing areas exist too, and women do get naked there. Also, enough with the TERF label. I literally had to google it after you brought it up. I’m not a feminist, I don’t support feminism, and I’m not part of any political movement. If you truly didn’t care about genitals, you’d be pushing for fully neu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:53 PM
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I don’t really agree with comparing WHR to height, they’re not equivalent. But also, I’ve never seen anyone compare male height to female height like that in real life either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:28 PM
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And I guess some people need more time to realize that bathrooms around the world are based on biological sex. If trans people can’t understand that most people aren’t comfortable sharing intimate spaces like bathrooms and changing rooms, that’s them being inconsiderate. Trans women make up maybe 0.5% of the population, and yet expect billions of others to adjust for their comfort. Like I said, if you’re something extra, create extra spaces, don’t force others to comply with your identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:16 PM
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Crazy of me to think bathroom safety matters more than someone’s costume choice for the day😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:38 PM
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Bathrooms were always based on biological sex, that’s the whole point. And I already said I’m not a feminist, nor would I be in relationship with someone who is. And let’s be real, this is a relatively new societal shift. Humanity isn’t 100 years old, just because it’s been talked about “for years” doesn’t mean it’s always been a standard:)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:47 PM
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I never said who is or isn’t a woman, we’re not debating that here:) If you're asking others to adjust to something new, maybe it's fair to expect that new categories like private bathrooms or separate sport leagues could be created too. Especially since these things were originally based on biological sex. Seems reasonable, no? 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:37 PM
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I’m not a feminist or part of any movement, just a regular guy who puts his wife and future daughter first:)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:25 PM
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Like I said to the other person, let’s just agree to disagree. I’m not debating definition of a woman here, just stating that if my wife or potential daughter preferred women only spaces based on biology, I’d support that for safety reasons. Same goes for sex based sports. It’s about minimizing risk, not hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:00 PM
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Fair enough, we clearly see it differently, let’s just agree to disagree:)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:13 PM
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Sorry that happened to you, but raising safety concerns isn’t the same as being phobic. She clearly supports trans women, she’s just pointing out risks from bad actors abusing the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:58 PM
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Where was she transphobic? She supported trans women but mentioned safety concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:43 PM
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Like I said, men and women can have whatever standards they want, if they’re too high, it’s their own problem if they end up alone. The real issue is when people start shaming others for not meeting their preferences. Also, let’s be honest, most of this outrage is mostly online. In real life, I’ve almost never seen someone getting bullied for having high standards. It happens, sure, but it’s definitely a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:32 PM
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They’re all for being open-minded, right up until someone’s relationship doesn’t align with their values. Then it’s suddenly unacceptable haha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:23 AM
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Because people will always find a million ways to criticize relationships and preferences that have nothing to do with them..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:17 AM
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You sure about that? If a man says he doesn't want to date promiscuous women, or prefers someone with little to no experience, he's immediately labeled misogynist, insecure, or even a creep. If he doesn't want a fat woman, he's fatphobic. Prefers younger women, he's a pedophile. Cares about what she wears or who she hangs out with, again, misogynist insecure or controlling. So are men's preferences really respected? Both men and women should be free to have standards, just don't insult others wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:26 PM
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You really call everything misogyny, huh?😂 I track my fiancée’s cycle because she asked me to. I never planned to, and I’d stop in a second if she didn’t want me to. You claimed it’s misogyny because it implies women are incapable of managing their hormones, but if a woman shows a pattern of being more irritable every month, then that’s just how her body works. If her partner is aware and uses that info to avoid unnecessary conflict and help her feel better, how is that hateful? Honestly, what’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:23 PM
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Again, read the definition of misogyny, it means hatred or contempt for women. Wanting to avoid unnecessary conflict isn’t hateful, it’s just being aware of patterns in human behavior. It’s not assuming she’s incapable, but if she consistently gets pissed off over small things during that time of the month, what’s wrong with being a bit more careful? Or are you one of those people who just loves picking fights no matter what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:51 PM
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I think the bigger issue is that women's standards are usually accepted and respected, while men's preferences are often mocked. I'm not against anyone having standards, men or women, it’s just that we should be fair and not insult others for having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:31 PM
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Definition of misogyny: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women. How is trying to understand and avoid conflict with your partner considered hating women?😅
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:22 PM
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Exactly. I think she sees women as already perfect, like men should not only accept that but also become their absolute best just to settle for women who think they have nothing to improve. It’s kind of ridiculous. I asked her three times if we should also encourage women to meet men’s preferences, and she couldn’t answer it once. Says a lot, doesn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:10 PM
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You still didn’t really answer the question. Do you think only men need to improve while women are already perfect as they are? Why should men settle, but women never have to? Sounds a bit one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:56 PM
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Yeah, men often complain about not getting sex, but if you’ve noticed, many women complain that they can’t find men who want to commit long term. So again, back to the part you didn’t answer, should we also be encouraging women to meet men’s preferences, or is this just supposed to be a one way street?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:51 PM
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First of all, I agree, women are absolutely allowed to have any standards they want. But I’m curious about the part where you said 'we need to be encouraging men to meet those expectations.' Do you think we should also encourage women to meet men’s preferences? Or is it meant to be a one way street?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:43 PM
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Yeah obviously, why not! I’ll be honest, I’m not into hairy legs/armpits, but if you feel comfortable like that, go for it! I just think it’s way better to be upfront about things like that early on. Don’t show up fully shaved, attract someone, then switch it up and blame him for not being into it anymore. Just be real from the beginning!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:42 AM
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Wild how in today’s world, being fake is totally normal, but showing reality is offensive. We’re seriously at a point where reminding someone what a natural face looks like is seen as an attack. Honestly, best first date idea? Go to a spa or beach/pool and see your potential partner from the beginning, no filters, no layers, just reality...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:02 PM
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Damn, thanks for the heads up, definitely need to remove it now haha Quick question though, have you ever had posts removed for not picking a gender flair? Just asking so I know what to expect. I’ve only been on reddit for like a month or two, so still getting the hang of it. And yeah, I totally agree. I’m just a guy, my preference is this and that, that’s it. No need for labels or ideologies. Not sure why people feel the need to box themselves into movements these days haha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:57 PM
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Haha exactly! One breakup and a bunch of videos from both sides… suddenly everyone’s a relationship prophet. Just have your own mind and use critical thinking. I see you’re no pill.. I’m the same honestly, just slapped on the purple one because reddit kept nagging me to choose something that mentions men. Purple felt like the chill, middle ground option, but maybe I'm wrong? Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:26 PM
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Wow, really well written! I genuinely appreciate your take. You’re absolutely right, trust is the foundation of every relationship, and once that’s gone, it’s hard to rebuild. I’ve definitely seen how having a “worst case scenario” mindset can sabotage good things before they even begin. And honestly, your last paragraph really hit me. I’m happy for you and your husband, and it’s encouraging to hear stories like yours. That kind of loyalty and trust is what gives hope that it’s still out there, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:19 PM
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Yeah exactly, thanks for pointing that out. But I also don’t wanna be too hard on Psykotyrant. I get his frustration. I’ve seen people close to me go through rough experiences, so I understand where that mindset comes from. But going into every situation expecting the worst or assuming people will leave you the second they’re bored… that kind of thinking makes it really hard to even give a relationship a fair shot..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:00 PM
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Yes, and like I mentioned earlier, I have money now, “giving her the life she deserves” means she’ll be a stay at home wife/mom, which is exactly what she wants too. We didn’t meet on dating apps or anything like that, it happened naturally. Also, we’re not really from the west, so maybe that’s why we see relationships differently. I totally understand the redpill perspective, I used to watch those videos too. Honestly, they helped me a lot with self improvement like getting in shape, making mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:54 AM
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No, I don’t believe that. She stayed with me when I had absolutely nothing, just ambition and potential. If she was the type to leave for a ‘better model,’ she would’ve done it a long time ago. Some women actually value loyalty, love, and shared growth. Sounds to me like you’re just chasing the wrong kind of women. And just a side note, neither me nor my fiancée are from the US, so maybe I just have a different mindset about relationships altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:33 AM
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I think one of the biggest issues today is that both men and women have unrealistic standards, especially women expecting a "perfect guy" without looking at his character or potential. And people in general judge way too fast without actually listening or understanding each other. I got really lucky. My fiancée stayed with me when I had nothing, just because she believed in my ambition. And now I work hard to give her the life she deserves. I really hope more people find something real like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:02 AM
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Yeah, I hear you, and honestly, I’m really grateful I didn’t have to deal with all that. If you ever decide to pursue a relationship one day, I genuinely hope you find someone who brings you peace and happiness too:)
/r/MensRights24/04/25 10:24 AM
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Thank you for saying that! I definitely see your point, I say I feel lucky mostly because I constantly hear people talk about how hard it is to find a good partner these days. But to be honest, I never really experienced modern dating myself. I just know how grateful I am that we found each other. She never saw me as “less” just because I was broke at the time. Instead, she saw potential in me because I’ve always been ambitious. That’s why she stuck by my side, and that’s exactly why I want to t…
/r/MensRights24/04/25 09:54 AM
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For me and my fiancée, it’s… interesting. We see our relationship as more traditional, and eventually I’ll be the sole provider since she wants to be a stay at home wife/mom. But at the beginning, things were different. I was still studying and pretty broke, while she had a job. I always tried my best to pay for dates and help out, but realistically, she probably paid more than me back then. You can't imagine how lucky I feel to have someone like her. These days, I hear it's really rare to find …
/r/MensRights24/04/25 09:39 AM
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And not only that, a few days ago I got recommended a post about the manosphere and I didn’t realize it was in a feminist subreddit. I genuinely tried to give a neutral response, something like, “Think for yourself, you don’t have to follow manosphere, feminist, or redpill figures blindly. Take a few ideas, use critical thinking, and build your own path.” I got like 50 downvotes in 10 minutes with zero replies. That’s when I realized I posted in a feminist sub haha And then out of curiosity I ch…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 04:43 PM
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The best is when they say misandry isn’t real because “men aren’t oppressed” and “have it easy,” while women apparently live on hard mode by default. Like bro, we’re talking about modern countries here, not the middle ages. Feminists sometimes sound like a parody of themselves, I swear 😂
/r/MensRights21/04/25 03:31 PM
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