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Then she makes a lot of people very, very happy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 12:30 AM
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Molly now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 12:21 AM
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Peeing standing up though .. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:58 PM
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Oh yes you're right about that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:45 PM
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I don't think every woman does. I think the expectations of others that I have one is a terrible burden. I'd rather elope.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 07:13 PM
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Well I don't know. I've met many who didn't appear to have or admit to having or speak about having any serious insecurity. Does that mean that you think all men do have them? I mean I was sensitive to his concern about his height (although I didn't think it was an issue) and altered my behavior at his request by wearing flat shoes even though I prefer to wear heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 07:11 PM
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Lol you never disappoint. I should have predicted that answer but you already answered my question which was basically what type of woman is worthy of ltr
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 04:35 PM
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Why do you put "materialism" in parentheses after education? Are you not in favor of advanced, formal education for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 03:41 PM
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Preach it!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 03:04 PM
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Weed dealer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:44 PM
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Maybe they don't really admire him maybe he's just their plug lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:36 PM
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Despite the fact that your views are often too absolute I actually agree with this list. I would add successful to your list for men although the attributes you've specified would be expected to lead to success.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:53 PM
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the tallest interrupted me to remind everyone of my height. That reveals much more about the person who interrupted than it does about you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:28 PM
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How often? Probably every time. I saw recently where one of the MRP mods said that if you run into assholes all day long, then you are the asshole. I don't know if it was his idea or he was repeating it but I thought it worth considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 12:48 PM
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be attractive, don't be unattractive Most "short" men's attitudes hold them back more than anything I think this is key. It is all about attractiveness and attitude, my first LTR was 5' 7" (which isn't even really short) same height as me. Typical "don't wear heels" bullshit etc etc. Really a great guy, smart, ambitious, funny, but just couldn't get over that one thing and was always going on about it. It became very tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 12:38 PM
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Ok fair enough, I just wanted to know if you meant that both of you should get some on the side or just you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 12:34 PM
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But expectations are really important aren't they? I mean if we aren't clear about our expectations then how does the other person even know what they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:08 AM
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You can't get past the crying can you? I think loyalty and honesty are something of substance to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:06 AM
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Well I didn't conceive of immortality as the win. Aiming a bit lower. Just grasping for ideas on how to have a lasting relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:58 AM
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I'm boring because I don't want a deeply sensetive man who cries easily? What did you expect me to say? I do wing walking on bi-planes while in the nude? Or that juggle flaming swords?? How should I contribute to the personal growth of others? Provide a sounding board for the nuggets they mine during their hours of deep and tortured introspection?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:52 AM
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Why the getting some on the side? Is that for her to get some on the side too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:16 AM
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Why do you say that the woman should have a good relationship with parents? Authority?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:14 AM
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Yes lol but I want a description of what the winner would be like
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:22 AM
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I have to say I'm with you on this, "gina tingles" is an utterly moronic sounding term. lol Not many poets laureate posting on TRP/MRP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:40 AM
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I guess I better develop a list of caveats hadn't I? Lol. My fiancé is demanding and has a strong personality but isn't unreasonable so I expect I'll be ok. He says he wants several children so pregnancies are required for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:01 AM
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Are you saying that more intellectually gifted women are less logical and engage in less fact based decision making than less intellectually gifted women? I'm confused. Not gifted lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 12:51 AM
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Well in your view who gets to cross the ltr finish line? No women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:51 PM
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Such as I'm a fun and pleasant girl to be around with good manners, honest, and caring, good sense of humor. Decorative too lol. Not perfect by any means as I'm sometimes lacking in decisiveness and industry (obviously or I'd be finishing my thesis instead of being on Reddit) Examples of being a crybaby would be tears in response to anger, frustration or disappointments. (Once again not talking about life altering tragedy type stuff here) yes I'd consider myself a crybaby too in those situations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:25 PM
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Well, plenty I think. I'm obviously not referring to things like a death in the family or some tragedy I'd expect an emotional response then. I just mean I don't want to have to handle a weak and sensitive crybaby who routinely whines and even cries about his almighty feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:45 PM
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I'm not sure that I do claim that. I just think that there are men (as many men as women, maybe not) who don't accept the consequences of their actions or live up to their responsibilities. Even if it is just in mundane matters. I think you enoble them too much. Do I enoble them too little? I don't think so. Like I said before, I based my initial beliefs about men on my Dad. That they were inherently stoic, strong, responsible etc... Then I grew up, met men, interacted with them and found that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:37 PM
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TBH all the adjectives get in the way and it's pretty simple. I don't want to dry a man's tears or be having to buck him up, but if he's inclined to dry mine that's great. Doesn't even have to "fix" the cause of them but if so even better. Will I feel different st 35,45,or 55?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:28 PM
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I want you to accept the consequences of the decisions you've made I think women might say "right back at ya"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:19 PM
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About what particularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:17 PM
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People are enculturated (women in particular) to believe this and are uncomfortable with a suggestion that it is untrue even though anyone with a modicum of sense can see that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:23 PM
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Do what most guys do, lie
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:17 PM
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I just love the phrase "cash and prizes" when it's bleated like a group of anesthetized game show contestants. Lol Like being labeled a divorcee and having failed at being married is such a prize. Spousal support for a limited amount of time if you're rich and I never worked and child support is finite, I'll give you that part. Please tell me about these other prizes I'll be getting if I get divorced. What are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:11 PM
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What does that have to do with the ease of destruction? "He pays." That has nothing to do with ease of destruction and everything to do with aftermath. And nobody walks away from the end of the marriage "scot free."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:02 PM
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Why? Why is that true?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:49 PM
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Oh please. Did you bring cash?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:48 PM
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Ha. I got a lesson in making generalizations yesterday so I don't want to repeat the mistake. I will just say this. I've observed that in the two northeastern cities where I've lived girls are less friendly and chatty generally as compared to the south. I was taught the whole "flies with sugar not vinegar" thing and the resulting tendency has been a "try not to give offense, make others feel comfortable, smile, be friendly" posture that can be misconstrued by men particularly. That's one of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:41 PM
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Maybe it's not incel, it's inertia
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:12 PM
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Lol. Disingenuousness, indirection, and dishonesty are not the sole province of females. When it comes to communication we are all similarly suspect. I will say for girls though even my generation is taught (or I was anyway maybe it's the south or just my mom lol) to speak a certain way and especially a particular way to men. It seems very antiquated in comparison to what I see in the northeast where I live now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:59 PM
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But calling yourself a "victim" by any other name can make you feel so warm inside when your problem.....I mean victimization....is someone else's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:54 PM
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Well I won't speculate where most of the women you've known fall on the bell curve. I'm 25 so maybe you are talking about old women from the 50s but believe me I don't know any girls among my friends that expect a guy not to have sex with other girls after he asks us for a date. Pretty much everyone I know expects all guys to be fucking anything that will hold still long enough. (Unless he can't get any) No matter if he just asked us to a show or out for Thai etc. believe me there is no expectat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:05 PM
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Most women do not think that. Women, especially younger women know there will be a "so what are we?" conversation and some explicitness about exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:00 PM
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As someone who has only recently become affianced, this is an interesting question to me. I guess I would say that getting married implies that there is sex (however, whatever etc) expected. In fact, my fiancé had made his expectations clear verbally. "If you get fat or stop putting out then its over." I know what I'm signing on for. Lol. I'd say that if all attempts to resolve the lack of sex prove futile then what is the point of the marriage? Unless both parties decide that it is acceptable t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:53 PM
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That women don't mean what they say. When it should really be that people often don't mean what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:13 PM
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Brilliant plan. Most people have nothing to offer? I read in MRP where one of their mods said "if you run into assholes all day long, you're the asshole." Maybe you should reflect on his idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:09 PM
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It is actually an interesting question and goes to the central conflict of RP in my mind, particularly considering RP's obsessive interest in a woman's partner count. In reading it you also see a lot of condemnation of women who sleep with men the night they meet them and at the same time you see a lot of condemnation of women who want to "wait" to give it up often derided as playing some kind of game. It appears the "wait" is related to the concept of "saving the best." And of course, the bleat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:04 PM
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Fair enough, knee jerk reaction I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 10:47 PM
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Yes! It will definitely happen when China becomes powerful enough to make all asian men look like Hideo Muraoka. Seem legit? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:25 PM
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I'd tell my daughter to move along sugar because he's not good enough for you. Obviously. And possibly gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:41 PM
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There are no guarantees and that's terrible advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:22 PM
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The more sheltered and less social he is the better. Wtf? That's crazy. It's like purposefully hobbling someone. Like a giant pussy. What on earth could a man like that do for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 02:48 AM
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It's possible to be really good looking and a good prospect for ltr/ relationship and to be really good looking and be a total fuckboy waste of time. My BF (fiancé I should say now I guess) is good looking and although he can be a demanding asshole at times lol, is still completely husband material where I come frome anyway. There are no hard and fast rules in my mind other than this one: look out for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 11:20 PM
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I agree. And where I come from any unpleasantness like that is quickly cleaned up, concealed , and never mentioned again. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 03:35 PM
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What more do you expect from the oldest teenager in the house? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 03:12 PM
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No, it's not that. If it was then AWALT wouldn't be a concept. Don't worry, I'm probably a much bigger snob than you. I think what those career posts show has more to do with the kind of girls on Reddit than it does with anything else. And when it comes to the TRPs/MRPs I'd bet not many of them are annual subscribers to their local symphonies or ballets. (Don't bother telling me how you saw ABTs Romeo and Juliet this summer lol I'm just speaking generally) Plus, they're always banging on about h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 12:16 PM
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Well I think you're in the minority on that. Friends you do hobbies with? Go out with? Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 02:30 AM
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Ok well clearly your life experiences are outside of average so ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:54 AM
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True, but you know how girls are to other girls who they think might be a threat to their sovereignty. Plus, pussy has the power. Lol. We're from the same home town so I'll catch up with him again eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:43 AM
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Lol. Over simplified but not bad Ken Kesey moment. I'll buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:37 AM
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Loyalty is not at issue. There's no doubt they can be more loyal than some female "frenemies." In my experience it always ends up in an awkward conversation. I will say my last guy friend got a gf and she cut him off from me like immediately. I was glad for him though he is a great guy. (I almost typed "nice" lol.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:27 AM
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When I was younger I used to think I could have guy friends. Then I learned that there really is no such thing as a guy friend for a women. Unless the guy is gay. Then he can be your friend in the real sense. Other than that they all want the same thing. I understand it and accept it but it's tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:06 AM
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It seems bitchy to complain about it but there are many that don't accept a polite rebuff. Annoying. The new engagement ring doesn't even help. It's true what they say about guys overestimating their attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 11:43 PM
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Getting mad about it is unreasonable. (I mean I stare longingly at things I lust for, shoes, purses etc...and want to try them on lol) but it gets tiresome to be the object of appetite. You do start to feel like a roadside attraction. My mom raised me to be polite and friendly so I try to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 11:10 PM
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Damned if I can recall another, still trying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:59 PM
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Mrs. Robinson? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:23 PM
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Mainly cleaning paintings, some restoration. Pretty cool. Just that I've got the ring and the precipice which after I jump is just a life of expectations and I know exactly what they are. It seems the last chance to go unexpected direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:09 PM
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Idk, my mom is 45 Nobody believes it. Guys hit on her all the time and dudes have suggested they get with us both together. Disgusting lol. Thankfully she seems to only have eyes for Dad. She does diet exercise religiously. Even so, doesn't look 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 06:06 PM
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what a woman wants is to be desired so strongly ......that he cannot control himself and simply must have her. Totally accurate and very key. And so says all of the million selling formulaic romance novels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 01:51 PM
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Entertainment though. Plus, you never know what impact your words really have on some reader even if they don't reply or debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 11:37 AM
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I can't say I really have a career per se. After college I've been a conservator in a museum and now a grad student. The thesis is nearly done and the closer to the end the more questions arise, I've been considering a post on how much compromise with my BF and future husband is too much and when it becomes argumentum ad temperantium. Pay is not a huge issue at the moment but I guess it could become more so in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 01:22 AM
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You might be surprised what resonates and impacts with unknown readers
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 10:14 PM
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K But no, it didn't. I've only tried to repeatedly make the point that your shrillness undercuts what you could accomplish. Whatever. I'll mind my own. Screech away
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 10:03 PM
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Oh come on. Stop. Don't be ridiculous or continue acting like a 12 year old, it dims your insights and that's a shame. I mean why else are you putting all this energy into argument if not to shed light on the issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 09:28 PM
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Too bad though you'd likely excel at it lol Experts opt out of the process, more weaklings produced. Good news or bad for my (eventual?) daughter(s) lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:15 PM
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Lol because sadly, no two men, no matter how hard they try cannot have a (male, hopefully lol) baby
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:07 PM
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The dark side of womanhood. Lol. Melodrama. Women are bitches. I know that and I am one. What's this big secret campaign of misinformation that's being perpetuated? Did you not go to junior high?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:04 PM
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Oh damn I think I did reply to the wrong one. Sorry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 05:33 PM
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Then he's screwed. Life isn't fair, or hadn't you heard? I do what I have to do to maximize my chances to get what I want from life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 05:14 PM
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Dismiss it too readily, yes. Because they're lazy. As my grandma used to say "beauty is pain." Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:39 PM
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Wrong. Doing what it takes to get what you want (not just doing what you're willing to do) is not "lowering your standards."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:14 PM
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True. People like what they like. However I don't get the constant misery even for average looking girls getting and keeping a decent man is not that difficult. First step is to adopt a respectful (worshipful lol) posture and if circumstances require negative feedback lol, do it in such a way as to preserve his self esteem. What my mom used to call getting more flies with sugar than vinegar. Pretty simple Step two is to look as good as you can at all times and make the most of what you've got an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:30 PM
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I don't know anything about dating apps never used them but if you're in a city there should be plenty of women to meet. If I don't get what I want I try a different approach until I do. There's many things I'm inclined to do but they would alienate my BF so I suppress the inclination.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:58 PM
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Why does anyone think they should have things they don't deserve?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:22 PM
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Well something must be left out of your description. Or move?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 11:09 AM
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Ha ha ok. It was on my mind as I was at craft brewery the other day and nearly every guy there was fat, wearing a brewery tshirt, and needed a haircut except the guy behind the bar with like 8% body fat who did not appear to drink much beer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 11:05 AM
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I think it does. You have to be willing to take it on board. Anyone think I like spending an hour on the stair machine or an hour and a half on the treadmill every day? No fun but must be done. Yeah I'd rather suck down a pizza too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:11 AM
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Ha. Don't give it all at once but when you do it should be amazingly intense laser like focus on him, him, and him some more. Turn the tap on and off unexpectedly so he knows the nectar is amazing but unsteady. He thinks it's him but it's just a strategy. Never never chase, I don't. Guaranteed he can't get enough. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 10:50 PM
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The things that I'm not predisposed to disagree, only about the degree of it. And you even admit you overstate. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 02:51 PM
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Yes you are overstating it and your hyperbole diminishes the effectiveness of your argument. It's a similar dynamic to BPPs recent "marriage strike" manifesto. It under cuts the strength of any foothold you could gain in changing minds. Absolutes have a way of doing that. I don't know the particular story you are referencing and I'm not disputing the veracity but I can tell you my brother is a state attorney and he prosecutes women for battery. So it happens maybe not as often as it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 02:26 PM
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That's a bunch of crap and you know it. I'll admit that the standard of accoutability is lower but there is one. Know anyone who works in a prosecutors office? I do. Women go to jail every day
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 02:07 PM
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Really? Have a look at Old Row Twitter and see it in living color
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 01:57 PM
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Yes there are but they get smacked down pretty hard and deservedly so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 01:42 PM
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Why? Because most people are self pitying crybabies and when they fail to get their own way every day all the time it must be because someone is abusing or victimizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 11:57 AM
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It's best if you do what's best for yourself. Nobody else will. So what? I've said 89% of trp is so great for getting people off of their ass and taking care of themselves. ( Just don't criticize their holiest of holiest no matter what a shit writer he is lol. Like scientologists that way they are ) to the curb or landfill with you and your literary criticism lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 01:39 AM
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What kind of mother pesters her son to get in relationships with single mothers. If I ever have a son I suspect I'll think no woman is good enough for him. And I don't think you can raise either gender without a strong mans participation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 09:36 PM
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Lol you don't even have to be pretty. Just not fat and under 40. The biggest problem I see with girls my age is they try to have it both ways. They get pissed if you stare at tits but also pissed if you don't hold the door or give up your seat. You can't win really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 09:30 PM
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Men don't know what it is like to be the object of appetite ALL the time. Ever actually think about planning how to dress, hair in bun, baggy sweater etc...just so you can go somewhere and get something done without being bothered?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 09:04 PM
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How can you say we don't experience it directly? When you are on the receiving end of indicators of sexual interest several times a day you start to get it pretty fast. I don't get why some women get so pissed about it anyway. It's just the way men are. Lol I find that pretending I don't hear is pretty effective. My most recent fave is the dude who tried to chat me in a crosswalk. Going in the opposite direction. He's probably not a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 08:44 PM
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Lol "non rich" it hurts to say "poor" huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 07:55 PM
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Well they're sad. Even if you don't want to hit the gym, nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to overeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 07:54 PM
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I don't know lol I avoid 'em like poison ivy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 07:52 PM
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I know, that'd never happen though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 06:28 PM
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Lol not only that but Daddy's money gives access to travel,cultural experiences, top tier education and all that can have an impact on a girls personality. Not to mention clothes, salon trips etc. in a srat you can just tell the money tiers by the grooming level lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 06:24 PM
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Rich girls have lots of expectations and don't like it when the money stops flowing, used to as they are to Daddy funding. The unrealistic part is the "she doesn't expect anything material." Bullshit. We always do. It's the way we are made except for a very small percentage of crunchy granola type earthy chicks. And who wants a chick that doesn't shave or use deodorant. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 06:11 PM
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Tidiness is good. Mssg received.
/r/MarriedRedPill12/07/16 01:03 PM
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Well that's not an insignificant amount of money for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 12:34 PM
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very few people are actually that bad Yeah they are. Don't be dumb. Some guys suck. They're fat, awkward, don't shower or have bodies worth touching and have stupid and fucked up hobbies like world of tomb raidershire and have no witty conversation or game. Yeah you can like what you like but damn if "yourself" is a fuckwit don't be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 02:21 AM
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Its not possible. It's just women trying to have it both ways. It's our specialty as a gender. I can admit that. 6th grade is when I first began to get overtures. 6th grade!! In person, then MySpace, as time went on to Facebook, to Twitter to Snapchat etc etc etc Right you really ARE interested in my dress or want to talk about my dog? Or my nail polish? Yeah right. They just tryna fuck. There's no excuse to pretend otherwise. My parents taught me well. No scales on my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 12:44 AM
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But still, you have to let strange men (women?) fuck you yes? I'm not judging I just wonder how you do that. I can barely stand to touch hotel room sheets lol let alone a man I don't know. How do you not mind giving them access to your body? The price is right? Just wondering. No offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 12:27 AM
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Some are so worthy of mockery. It's a scale, the shriller, the more worthy of mockery. It's like a law of nature. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 10:31 PM
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It's not the only way, but it feels damn good doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 09:48 PM
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You exaggerate. For dramatic effect I guess. Have you every encountered a kernel that you didn't try to turn into the Matterhorn? You'd be much more effective and persuasive if you didn't spin like a whirling dervish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 04:38 PM
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Brutal and implacable insistence that your problems are your own to solve. Rare. In fairness though, the RP woman stuff doesn't do much for me. Too silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 04:24 PM
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The naïveté is painful. Who knows if it's true or not. I just know that if I say yes to going to a guy's place then he thinks I'm saying I'm up for sex. I've even heard girls in my sorority "joke" about rape claims when talking about a terrible hook up. While still wearing their shacker shirt. It's no joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 12:22 PM
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But why would I want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 11:48 PM
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Cautionary in the sense that if you don't get your shit together and put your own interests first, the world will likely be shitting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:58 AM
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Lovely thought, impossible to do. Likely the majority of douchebags haven't heard of TRP and aren't even on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:48 AM
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It's like having an esoteric and slightly embarrassing hobby shared by (comparatively) very few other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:45 AM
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I don't think people need to be warned off of it. In fact the opposite. I know several people who could benefit from it. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 02:24 AM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 02:16 AM
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I have attempted to do so numerous times. I've yet to encounter a single person who admits to ever having heard of it at all. I've asked at least a dozen people. My BF told me to stop reading it and to get off Reddit all together. He thinks the TRP posts are like a soap opera. I think they're more like cautionary tales.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 02:09 AM
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It's readily and freely available. Even to ugly women (unless said dick owner's buddies will find out)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 07:58 PM
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Sad, but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 07:33 PM
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Prostitution, income redistribution. Old story.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 07:08 PM
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That's all true but you've never once been able to snicker at any of the mockery? Some of it is very funny. You're too serious by half then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 01:04 AM
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On balance, shitty men ("beta" = shitty man) sort of are your purview though since you're rebuilding them into something else altogether right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 12:51 AM
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Lol it's a recipie for success
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 10:33 PM
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Don't havta. They done it. AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 10:26 PM
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Personally? At this point, my bar is pretty low. Finish my thesis, get my MA. lol Then I'll decide if I'm getting married or not after all and go from there. I may be behind most 25 year olds in defining success.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 10:16 PM
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Lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 07:36 PM
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It's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 06:55 PM
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Lol, yes. And every other possible strategy as well. No woman wants a man that no other woman wants. One and only time I've heard a friend say that she chose an unattractive guy was because she had been cheated on in a prior relationship and she wanted some guy she thought was "safe" because she thought no other woman would want him. I think that all of this stuff comes down to a sliding scale of how you feel about yourself. It's worthiness. The TRP are always banging on about "what if Brad Pitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 06:40 PM
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I doubt there's a trend because every circumstance would be just a bit different. If it was an SO, absolutely, I would turn them in and I would not continue a relationship with someone who did such a thing. In some ways it seems like it would be more difficult to turn my brother in. I'd like to have it both ways please lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:51 PM
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You're also trying to find out whether RPers respect the rule of law, flout the law, or act with open disobedience to the law Yeah because that's so possible to do with this question on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:47 PM
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they want a guy that has the potential to fuck other women... True. In my experience most women do not want something (man, shoes, dress etc...) anything really, that other women do not want and approve of. In fact, it is even better if other women covet it. Fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:38 PM
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Which gender cares about their partner's pleasure most? Moving target. Whichever is the most invested in that particular encounter. In the context of a relationship there are so many strands that come together to influence the dynamic beyond the investment. Don't think so ? Just read some of the stories on TRP/MRP, which if true, show that there are so many people with so many hangups and inhibitions and mental limitations that even if they did care enough to try to make a difference for their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:29 PM
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You need to become more imaginative. It's not that outlandish
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:14 PM
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Yes. Particularly for attractive women. It's possible for attractive men too. Less so, but still possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 01:45 PM
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I think it does, frequently. The success or failure of a text like that depends on the relative positions of power (vis a via each other) occupied by the sender and receiver. I can easily imagine endless scenarios where it could work quite well and just as endlessly imagine many where it would not only fail but the number be blocked and the sender mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 11:43 AM
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so it's kind of selfish that I care Now that's pretty funny
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 10:23 AM
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You are not wrong lol. But that's not all they need to do, just a minimum standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 01:21 AM
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What's that mean? Sorry could you explain please?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 01:09 AM
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I'll admit I haven't read those.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:54 AM
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Yes! Tongues like sewing machine needles!! Awful. Please stop trying to "hem" me lol. Really guys ought to try to be better kissers if they possibly can. It's so easy too and effective at increasing a woman's receptiveness for just about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:45 AM
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I get ya. I do like to read it though there are some exceptionally witty people there and I do like a good laugh. Humorlessness is an awful thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:08 AM
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Well I guess I can't adequately or persuasively dispute this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:51 PM
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A careful reading of my comments would allow you to understand that I did not say it was based on bitterness. I didn't. I said only that bitterness prevents many at TRP/Mrp from seeing women completely clearly and that's to the detriment of their definition of femininity. I said it was about 89% correct and a practical and workable model for both genders in fact. I read an article about it in the paper about seven months ago. Since that time I joined Reddit and began to read it closely. It's int…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:41 PM
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No point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:29 PM
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Oh I don't know I think to be fair there's some amusing things in there. A lot of crap, but some of the mockery is pretty funny and, we should all be able to laugh at ourselves. I know I can be pretty ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:17 PM
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I love surveys lol. I'd rather not have sex than have bad sex. Bad sex would be if he is too tentative, too silent, too unaware of what's going on with me or uninterested in that. Is PIV even your preferred type of sex? Oh yes! I want the D and especially want him to badly want to give it to me. I've only had sex in LTRs so I'm not sure I could enjoy it with a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:02 PM
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His not having sex with me would "dread" me like nothing else that I can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:09 PM
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I thought TBP was just a satire of TRP and therefore is, if anything, just comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:10 PM
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Good points
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:55 PM
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Mine might tell me to but I don't know if I would but then I've only the experience of two LTR's to draw from. The previous and the current. I sure as hell wouldn't like it he openly pursued flirting with other women in front of me but I sure feel it when I see other women try to flirt with him. I'd draw the line at the staying out all night or for two days without a word crap though. I feel like women gain in confidence as they age and are less susceptible to manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:14 PM
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A self confident one in control of her emotions and firm in her belief that she has many other equally satisfactory options. In fewer words - not many. And that has more to do with the fact that many of us are self doubting and wouldn't even know that "dread" was a technique designed to elicit compliance. We'd just feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:07 PM
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Lol. We can't decide for ourselves what our number one indicator of success is? It can't be a moving target? Like today mine is "finish my thesis." Tomorrow it might be "rewrite thesis." Does that make me a woman child?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:02 PM
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I don't dispute that because I know it happens. That hasn't been my desire. However, it has been made very clear to me on many occasions that men in a position to grant me something I want (grades etc..) would be happy to do so in exchange for what they would like to have from me. There's a shoe for each foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:44 PM
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Well there's bound to be one or two blameless single mothers around. Odds demand it. Speaking of blame, I may be only 25 but I think there's enough blame to happily satisfy both genders. I saw plenty of the stuff TRP/MRP complains about happening in my sorority but there's also plenty of bad guys around too. The best is to do what's best for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:35 PM
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No i wouldn't. I based my expectations of men on my Dad. He is all three of those things. Even though I found that most (not all) men I meet are not those things..... I'd still say women are even less those things than most men. Just speaking GENERALLY. I don't know too much about single mothers but I know I wouldn't want to raise a son alone and I hope I never have too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:50 PM
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What's the point of this? You're getting frivolous now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:38 PM
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I know and if you read my comments you'd tell I'm not much in disagreement with you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:39 PM
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I know, I read them all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:24 PM
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Idk? The stories are compelling? I like to see an underdog succeed? That enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:19 PM
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Seems reasonable. I do think switching up "calibrate" to "adjust" would do your PR a world of good but you're the SME.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:18 PM
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Lol. I should look into designing it, maybe make some cash. Then I could abandon my thesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:59 PM
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Oh yeah me too, Frenchman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:57 PM
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a man deluding himself, refusing to calibrate what he does based to feedback This can be a problem for all people, not just men. Canting your head and shaking it won't always cut it. If you could stamp out the use of "calibrate" from both subs it would improve the reader experience. Kidding aside, I think the world has to hand it to you, you do demand personal accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:56 PM
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Correct. I care deeply about several people in my life and it will pain me to disappoint them if they don't approve of my choices but I will still make them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:43 PM
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Why? My feeling is that both men and women have to determine their life path and concept of success as individuals independent of others. I'm not up for someone telling me that my life is not a success if I don't have six children or tithe to a church or finish my thesis. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:33 PM
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Whatever the man himself believes it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:28 PM
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Idk Camus that whole coughing up blood TB thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 04:22 PM
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That they are born stoic. I think they can be stoic if they are taught to be stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:28 PM
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I used to think that men were inherently stoic, strong, and self reliant. What changed my mind? Growing up and meeting men who generally proved that they were not those things inherently and only became them when made to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:08 PM
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I'm not disputing that some women use some men for material gain. It's true. But how is it that some males get through puberty and to a point of having something that can be gotten from them and don't know it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:32 PM
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Well there are stories of betrayal and humiliation aplenty as well as young children drawn into the hostilities in terrible ways. I'm sure that many of the posters are sharing self serving versions of events but still just this morning I read one post from a man whose wife (supposedly) went out to buy Easter candy for their children and ended up meeting some guy and fucking him in the car. The worst ones are the ones where something terrible happens to the poster like an illness or job loss and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:14 PM
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Lol of course most stories, wherever they get posted, are probably self-serving in the extreme. I haven't looked at relationships because I assume (unfairly?) that it's all just whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:09 PM
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I have to lol at this as it means some guy has, at some point, considered me a crazy bitch (I probably was!) However if you read the posts carefully and the stories are true, they're some pretty nasty women. Did you read the MRP today about the wife who shrieked at her husband for eating her mandarin?? Lol I'm supposed to be writing my thesis instead of wasting time on Reddit. How I wish I could write it on TRP/MRP lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:51 AM
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Oh lol! Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:51 AM
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You need to treat her like a child for TRP to have its full effect. This is where it all goes off the rail. I'd say the rest of it could and probably does work pretty well. Also, someone should be at pains to point out that MANY of the posters especially those in MRP will flat out admit that they chose some pretty crazy bitches to get involved with. Add to that that many of the TRPers can't EVEN get any women to get involved with them. Does this affect the "praxeology?" I wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:46 AM
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Both men and women do this kind of crap in equal measure all the time. You could reproduce the same type of responses if you swapped the genders and the soccer players for women's volleyball squad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:40 AM
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I mean that they have endured embittering experiences with women and can't move beyond it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:43 PM
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You must be confusing me with someone else. I did not use that term or any other label regarding your thoughts about women. I know it's difficult to be nimble when you're so swole but try. I said TRP doesn't see women completely clearly. I never labeled that bluriness as sexist, myopic, misogynistic or otherwise. I merely pointed out that bitterness on the part of the purveyors limits its complete effectiveness. I suspect I know it's content better than you in fact as I've been reading it very c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:35 PM
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Two months ago : [deleted]. One of their main contributors
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 10:42 PM
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Ok if you've read it carefully then you know what I mean when I say you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 10:39 PM
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Since you're asking that I can only assume you haven't read the recents TRP/MRP posts with that very topic in the title.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 10:35 PM
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Wow. That's a user naming you got there. I meant having "game" to be used upon women. Not world of tomb raidershire or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 09:48 PM
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No, TRP says that any man can get laid. After lifting, grooming, and gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 09:45 PM
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Your user name is accurate. You are only slightly. Your thrust and parry isn't up to the standards of the TRP/MRP EC's. Go back for some additional iron sharpening iron before setting off on your next debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 09:30 PM
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So no women are stoic, mature, or reasonable? At all? Ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 09:23 PM
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How does negligent self confidence differ from the irrational self confidence that TRP/MRP is recently quite taken with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 09:06 PM
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The reverse being what exactly? I just want to be clear before I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:25 PM
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I'm not sure how much clearer I can be. Perhaps I need to acta non verba? Interpretive dance? I'm saying that you cannot have an accurate conception of femininity if it is informed by bitterness towards women. Believe me I get it that women use their wiles on men for benefits. I did it myself at the airport last week when the (female) ticket counter agent told me that the TSA would likely send me back due to the fact that my name on the ticket didn't match my id and I should pay a $200 re-ticket…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:14 PM
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No. All the bitterness is not aimed at that. Read the submissions very carefully and you can't possibly conclude otherwise. Setting aside the many TRP posters who are still in high school and living at home and aren't grown up enough to count in this discussion anyway and including the MRP posters who are apparently married and it is clear that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 08:01 PM
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About 89% of the TRP "praxeology" is useful and empowering, focused as it is on self-improvement and the path of the individual. (Should I say MAP??) That part is great. Fills the bill quite well in my mind for both genders to use in order to figure out who and what they are and what they want out of life. Many of their criticisms of women are valid and so are many of their criticisms of men. The problem arises when we get to the antiquated definitions of masculinity and femininity. You will alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 07:45 PM
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I would agree with that. It is so easy to do that for many women it's just impossible not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 07:29 PM
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TRP advice, hyperbole aside, can be quite useful in the right hands. The trouble is that many of the hands reaching for it are only able to fumble despite it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 05:11 PM
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Clearly, you are not very well informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 04:57 PM
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Ah the fragile male ego. No worries though. TRP regularly tell their men to "kill your ego." So soon, they'll be much better able to take it when being told what a crap lay they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 04:41 PM
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Ehhh I think plenty of women have to earn it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 04:04 PM
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That's your answer? Divination? That's how we are supposed to tell that a man is good at sex. Weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 03:51 PM
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You're the dude (I presume) and you said it's easy to find men who are good at sex. The statement doesn't make sense so I (presume) you know something I don't. Share the wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 03:38 PM
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to find men who are good at sex to fuck them How do you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 03:32 PM
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But quite common. The reminding, not the endowment. My first LTR constantly reminded me how fortunate I was to have access to his majesty and magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 03:29 PM
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Women typically, not always, know unerringly when a weak man attempts to seduce them. Only a life of seclusion could make it otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 02:29 PM
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Simple. The promise of a better future. Particularly one that can be achieved through a man's own efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 02:13 PM
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Women become fatigued by the relentless onslaught, the scrutiny, the sizing up, the eyeing up, the eternal evaluation, the grading, the palpable interest, the damn.... hunger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 02:03 PM
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